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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:09,744 --> 00:00:11,143 911, what's your emergency? 2 00:00:11,145 --> 00:00:12,811 It's my father. 3 00:00:12,813 --> 00:00:15,247 Copy that. We're on our way. 4 00:00:15,249 --> 00:00:17,916 I was terrified. 5 00:00:19,186 --> 00:00:21,987 I could hear a young woman screaming for help. 6 00:00:25,292 --> 00:00:29,328 This is a fear on a level that I can't even explain. 7 00:00:29,330 --> 00:00:31,296 I can't go to work and talk about this. 8 00:00:31,298 --> 00:00:33,632 They're going to put me in a psychiatric ward. 9 00:00:33,634 --> 00:00:35,300 Dispatch! 10 00:00:35,302 --> 00:00:36,668 Help me! 11 00:00:38,305 --> 00:00:39,905 My God! 12 00:00:39,907 --> 00:00:42,207 911 Please state your emergency. 13 00:00:42,209 --> 00:00:43,976 I think it's a ghost! 14 00:01:41,936 --> 00:01:43,869 Aah! 15 00:02:11,932 --> 00:02:15,667 The 911 call reaches paramedic Stacey Hilton, 16 00:02:15,669 --> 00:02:17,736 a former nursing student... 17 00:02:17,738 --> 00:02:20,072 Go double-check that kit! 18 00:02:20,074 --> 00:02:24,977 ...and a 14-year veteran of Louisiana's mean streets. 19 00:02:24,979 --> 00:02:28,213 Louisiana, it is considered 20 00:02:28,215 --> 00:02:31,283 one of the most violent areas in the country... 21 00:02:31,285 --> 00:02:32,751 This is ambulance to dispatch. 22 00:02:32,753 --> 00:02:36,288 ...a lot of trauma, a lot of shootings. 23 00:02:36,290 --> 00:02:37,923 We need to do a wellness check. 24 00:02:37,925 --> 00:02:39,958 We got a call, a possible 10-49, please, thank you. 25 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:46,298 The call takes them to a desolate industrial area. 26 00:02:46,300 --> 00:02:48,367 What we found out through our call notes 27 00:02:48,369 --> 00:02:53,138 is that the individual is actually living at his business. 28 00:02:53,140 --> 00:02:55,774 It was the daughter that had called 911 29 00:02:55,776 --> 00:02:58,777 trying to reach her dad. 30 00:02:58,779 --> 00:03:00,646 She lived in another city, 31 00:03:00,648 --> 00:03:04,349 and had been trying to reach him for a couple of days. 32 00:03:04,351 --> 00:03:05,851 It's my father. 33 00:03:05,853 --> 00:03:09,421 He's not picking up, and he's alone. 34 00:03:09,423 --> 00:03:12,958 Definitely a messy divorce, and he had moved out of his home 35 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,594 and was living in the actual warehouse. 36 00:03:21,302 --> 00:03:24,002 When I first walked into the building, 37 00:03:24,004 --> 00:03:26,538 I felt extreme heaviness. 38 00:03:28,776 --> 00:03:32,077 When I continued down the hall, it got heavier and heavier 39 00:03:32,079 --> 00:03:34,012 to where I was actually dizzy. 40 00:03:37,718 --> 00:03:40,686 First responders are very much in the moment 41 00:03:40,688 --> 00:03:43,622 when they come into any sort of emergency situation, 42 00:03:43,624 --> 00:03:46,458 and often times, being focused in the moment 43 00:03:46,460 --> 00:03:48,827 and being focused onto something 44 00:03:48,829 --> 00:03:52,097 will actually open up your perception a little bit more, 45 00:03:52,099 --> 00:03:56,168 in terms of what may be going on around you. 46 00:03:56,170 --> 00:03:58,737 Stacey quickly realizes 47 00:03:58,739 --> 00:04:00,539 she's dealing with a suicide, 48 00:04:00,541 --> 00:04:03,141 but something else catches her eye. 49 00:04:08,282 --> 00:04:09,815 When I approached the end of the bed, 50 00:04:09,817 --> 00:04:14,086 I saw what looked like a huge shadow hovering around him. 51 00:04:16,557 --> 00:04:18,423 It hovered for several seconds 52 00:04:18,425 --> 00:04:21,159 before it moved away from the wall. 53 00:04:21,161 --> 00:04:23,428 It was something very oppressive, like, 54 00:04:23,430 --> 00:04:25,864 oppressive-type of energy around him. 55 00:04:33,674 --> 00:04:37,743 All the sudden, I see what looks like a silhouette of a man. 56 00:04:40,247 --> 00:04:42,180 Stacey. 57 00:04:46,954 --> 00:04:51,723 I don't think I really had a thought in me other than fear. 58 00:04:51,725 --> 00:04:53,859 I wasn't even thinking. 59 00:04:53,861 --> 00:04:57,262 I just knew I had to get out of there. 60 00:04:57,264 --> 00:04:58,697 You all right? 61 00:04:58,699 --> 00:05:01,667 My partner did not see what I saw in the room. 62 00:05:01,669 --> 00:05:04,202 My partner wasn't looking where I was looking, 63 00:05:04,204 --> 00:05:06,004 so he didn't see anything in the room. 64 00:05:06,006 --> 00:05:08,106 In fact, he was actually talking to the police 65 00:05:08,108 --> 00:05:10,609 that were coming in the building. 66 00:05:10,611 --> 00:05:15,113 I wonder what's wrong with her. 67 00:05:15,115 --> 00:05:19,418 I had no idea that I would experience what was coming next. 68 00:05:21,355 --> 00:05:24,790 You arrive home, and take me through what happens next. 69 00:05:24,792 --> 00:05:27,459 So, I arrived home, and I'm very intuitive. 70 00:05:27,461 --> 00:05:29,227 I can feel when something's around me, 71 00:05:29,229 --> 00:05:30,829 and I felt a heavy presence, 72 00:05:30,831 --> 00:05:33,432 which I had never felt in my own home. 73 00:05:38,138 --> 00:05:40,706 No one was there. 74 00:05:40,708 --> 00:05:42,874 No one else was at my house. 75 00:05:51,985 --> 00:05:54,386 The lamp that was sitting on the side of my bed 76 00:05:54,388 --> 00:05:56,988 was in the middle of my bed. 77 00:05:56,990 --> 00:05:58,423 It had been moved. 78 00:05:58,425 --> 00:06:00,826 The lamp had been moved to the middle of the bed. 79 00:06:24,685 --> 00:06:28,453 Stacey. 80 00:06:28,455 --> 00:06:30,489 I was terrified. 81 00:06:30,491 --> 00:06:32,858 I mean, terrified. 82 00:06:38,799 --> 00:06:41,933 I felt like something was hovering around me, 83 00:06:41,935 --> 00:06:44,636 almost like it was trying to cause fear. 84 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,008 Stacey. 85 00:06:50,010 --> 00:06:52,644 I felt like whatever this was had followed me. 86 00:06:55,616 --> 00:06:57,849 Responding to a suicide shooting, 87 00:06:57,851 --> 00:06:59,851 veteran paramedic Stacey Hilton... 88 00:06:59,853 --> 00:07:01,653 Stacey. 89 00:07:01,655 --> 00:07:04,222 ...is followed home... 90 00:07:04,224 --> 00:07:07,559 by a mysterious figure. 91 00:07:07,561 --> 00:07:10,762 Whenever there's a severely emotional situation 92 00:07:10,764 --> 00:07:12,898 that's gone on, especially a traumatic incident 93 00:07:12,900 --> 00:07:16,635 like a suicide, you've got a lot of unresolved emotions 94 00:07:16,637 --> 00:07:18,670 that are just hanging in that space. 95 00:07:18,672 --> 00:07:20,705 In this case, it may have actually been 96 00:07:20,707 --> 00:07:22,674 a bit of a warning sign from the entity 97 00:07:22,676 --> 00:07:25,410 who was still possibly being territorial or protective 98 00:07:25,412 --> 00:07:27,479 over the space that it held. 99 00:07:31,118 --> 00:07:33,385 Incidents happened that evening 100 00:07:33,387 --> 00:07:36,621 doors opening and closing. 101 00:07:38,592 --> 00:07:45,130 I was wide-awake laying in bed by this "zzzzz." 102 00:07:45,132 --> 00:07:47,899 And then a few seconds later it's right in my ear 103 00:07:47,901 --> 00:07:50,168 and it whisks past me. 104 00:07:50,170 --> 00:07:52,737 Sometimes what we'll see in negative entity cases 105 00:07:52,739 --> 00:07:55,540 is that they will actually decide on some level, 106 00:07:55,542 --> 00:07:58,143 for whatever reason, to create a dynamic 107 00:07:58,145 --> 00:08:00,879 where it needs to be dominant over the person. 108 00:08:00,881 --> 00:08:02,447 I heard somebody come down in my ear 109 00:08:02,449 --> 00:08:04,549 and go, "Stacey! Stacey! Stacey!" 110 00:08:04,551 --> 00:08:07,819 It felt like all Hell broke loose at my house. 111 00:08:07,821 --> 00:08:09,221 This was every night. 112 00:08:09,223 --> 00:08:11,456 This wasn't one night, and it went away the next day. 113 00:08:11,458 --> 00:08:14,826 This was something that continued for months. 114 00:08:17,130 --> 00:08:21,366 I started having other experiences on other calls. 115 00:08:21,368 --> 00:08:23,235 Stacey. 116 00:08:23,237 --> 00:08:24,436 Stacey! 117 00:08:26,974 --> 00:08:28,974 Stacey! Stacey! 118 00:08:31,111 --> 00:08:32,911 Hello? 119 00:08:37,951 --> 00:08:41,353 I noticed a shadow moving through our ambulance. 120 00:08:49,963 --> 00:08:52,998 There's someone back there. 121 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,566 What? 122 00:09:01,508 --> 00:09:03,708 There's no one in here. 123 00:09:05,913 --> 00:09:08,647 I can't go to work and talk about this because if I do, 124 00:09:08,649 --> 00:09:10,415 they're gonna put me in a psychiatric ward, 125 00:09:10,417 --> 00:09:14,119 you know, thinking that I'm crazy. 126 00:09:14,121 --> 00:09:16,221 There's no one in there. 127 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,433 It felt very personal, 128 00:09:28,435 --> 00:09:32,571 and it got stronger and stronger, and it terrified me. 129 00:09:32,573 --> 00:09:35,073 I had this very oppressive feeling. 130 00:09:35,075 --> 00:09:38,043 I was scared. 131 00:09:38,045 --> 00:09:41,613 It feels to me that she had a malevolent entity there. 132 00:09:41,615 --> 00:09:43,582 Stacey. 133 00:09:43,584 --> 00:09:46,284 I thought I had some type of demon attachment, yes. 134 00:09:50,757 --> 00:09:52,490 At that point, I didn't even know what to do. 135 00:09:52,492 --> 00:09:54,693 I thought, you know, I need to pray. 136 00:09:54,695 --> 00:09:56,995 We get a situation where somebody is praying 137 00:09:56,997 --> 00:09:59,364 from a fearful state of being. 138 00:09:59,366 --> 00:10:02,267 That's not achieving the end game, which is to feel better, 139 00:10:02,269 --> 00:10:05,236 which, ultimately, is going to help you out 140 00:10:05,238 --> 00:10:07,706 on so many levels with paranormal activity. 141 00:10:07,708 --> 00:10:10,408 So, if you're praying, or you're attacking something 142 00:10:10,410 --> 00:10:13,912 from any sort of state of fear, that's never going to end well. 143 00:10:16,750 --> 00:10:20,318 It was messing with me in a way that wasn't just physical. 144 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,787 I went into a major depression. 145 00:10:25,325 --> 00:10:28,560 It was horrible. 146 00:10:28,562 --> 00:10:31,630 I was actually suicidal. 147 00:10:31,632 --> 00:10:36,301 When we get people who are in extreme emotional distress 148 00:10:36,303 --> 00:10:38,370 and negativity such as depression, 149 00:10:38,372 --> 00:10:41,806 we often see this accompanied with negative entities 150 00:10:41,808 --> 00:10:44,909 that either seem to manifest from that emotional energy 151 00:10:44,911 --> 00:10:46,344 and from that depression, 152 00:10:46,346 --> 00:10:48,580 or it can be attracted in because of it. 153 00:10:48,582 --> 00:10:52,183 I felt like it all led back to this particular call. 154 00:10:52,185 --> 00:10:54,686 911, what is your emergency? 155 00:10:54,688 --> 00:10:56,154 It's my father! 156 00:10:56,156 --> 00:10:58,490 He's not picking up, and he's alone. 157 00:10:58,492 --> 00:10:59,858 It can't be real. 158 00:10:59,860 --> 00:11:03,762 He just felt so low and so helpless and depressed, 159 00:11:03,764 --> 00:11:06,798 and I'm sure he had no idea he had an entity attachment. 160 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,233 Gabby. 161 00:11:08,235 --> 00:11:09,901 What do you want?! 162 00:11:13,006 --> 00:11:16,341 I feel like it was this darker energy around him 163 00:11:16,343 --> 00:11:18,276 that led to his suicide. 164 00:11:21,448 --> 00:11:25,517 This negative entity was spawned from the depression, 165 00:11:25,519 --> 00:11:30,155 and probably existed in its own state of intelligence apart 166 00:11:30,157 --> 00:11:33,825 from the man who had killed himself. 167 00:11:38,699 --> 00:11:42,767 The reason why this demon, or this dark entity, 168 00:11:42,769 --> 00:11:46,871 attached itself to you Why do you think that is? 169 00:11:46,873 --> 00:11:49,441 I'm not sure if it's that the entity wanted me 170 00:11:49,443 --> 00:11:50,975 to commit suicide. 171 00:11:50,977 --> 00:11:54,479 I don't feel that way, because I feel like what would it do? 172 00:11:54,481 --> 00:11:59,250 It just needs me in a constant fearful state. 173 00:11:59,252 --> 00:12:01,186 And I reached out to some friends and I said, 174 00:12:01,188 --> 00:12:03,455 "I don't know what to do. I need help." 175 00:12:03,457 --> 00:12:07,492 So, I ended up learning about some energy workers 176 00:12:07,494 --> 00:12:09,427 that work in the energy field, 177 00:12:09,429 --> 00:12:12,564 not just the physical body but work in the energy field, 178 00:12:12,566 --> 00:12:15,500 and I had several energy sessions, 179 00:12:15,502 --> 00:12:18,169 and then I was led to a shaman. 180 00:12:24,511 --> 00:12:26,644 He just said, "Lay down. Close your eyes. 181 00:12:26,646 --> 00:12:28,279 I'm going to be working around your body. 182 00:12:28,281 --> 00:12:29,914 I won't touch your body." 183 00:12:41,461 --> 00:12:44,229 Stacey. 184 00:12:44,231 --> 00:12:46,397 Stacey. 185 00:13:13,927 --> 00:13:15,960 A bad spirit was taking over you. 186 00:13:15,962 --> 00:13:19,664 He said, "I removed several things from you." 187 00:13:19,666 --> 00:13:21,065 It was draining your energy. 188 00:13:21,067 --> 00:13:23,601 He was absolutely right. 189 00:13:23,603 --> 00:13:27,005 Everything calmed down. 190 00:13:27,007 --> 00:13:30,241 And, you know, I just spent hours on my knees saying, 191 00:13:30,243 --> 00:13:31,843 "Thank you, God, for helping, 192 00:13:31,845 --> 00:13:34,579 for sending me to the right person." 193 00:13:34,581 --> 00:13:36,147 Yes, he's not well. 194 00:13:36,149 --> 00:13:38,249 What's the location of the emergency? 195 00:13:38,251 --> 00:13:39,651 He's in the industrial park. 196 00:13:39,653 --> 00:13:41,619 He's alone there in the East Parrish. 197 00:14:19,292 --> 00:14:22,760 Sent to investigate a possible school break-in 198 00:14:22,762 --> 00:14:25,964 is security officer Chris Sensicle, 199 00:14:25,966 --> 00:14:28,399 a 20-year veteran who's responsible 200 00:14:28,401 --> 00:14:30,802 for protecting more than 700 schools 201 00:14:30,804 --> 00:14:33,838 and facilities throughout the city. 202 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,441 My primary job would be for alarm response, 203 00:14:36,443 --> 00:14:40,645 to schools that had a burglar alarm or an intrusion alarm. 204 00:14:42,782 --> 00:14:46,484 So, I decided to pull in and do a proactive patrol. 205 00:14:50,423 --> 00:14:53,091 This is a two-story school facility. 206 00:14:53,093 --> 00:14:55,827 I noticed an open window. 207 00:14:59,566 --> 00:15:00,965 So, I have to be on alert 208 00:15:00,967 --> 00:15:05,270 that there could be a person inside the building. 209 00:15:05,272 --> 00:15:07,972 The school is often the target of street gangs 210 00:15:07,974 --> 00:15:12,810 and desperate drug addicts out to steal whatever they can get. 211 00:15:22,555 --> 00:15:25,290 This school board is third-largest in North America, 212 00:15:25,292 --> 00:15:27,859 second only to Chicago and Los Angeles. 213 00:15:27,861 --> 00:15:31,195 With any urban city, you're going to get pockets of crime. 214 00:15:31,197 --> 00:15:33,765 The officer knows that just because the alarm 215 00:15:33,767 --> 00:15:38,303 didn't go off doesn't mean there's no intruder. 216 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,909 Technology can fail, so I have to be on high alert. 217 00:15:44,911 --> 00:15:48,680 As per protocol, the security officer is trained 218 00:15:48,682 --> 00:15:52,317 to call in at the first sign of danger. 219 00:15:52,319 --> 00:15:55,687 We were issued with handcuffs and expandable batons, 220 00:15:55,689 --> 00:16:00,858 and we wore protective vests in case we were attacked. 221 00:16:00,860 --> 00:16:04,262 So, I'd been to this school several times before, 222 00:16:04,264 --> 00:16:06,864 and I was fairly familiar with the layout of the school, 223 00:16:06,866 --> 00:16:08,533 but I really had no idea 224 00:16:08,535 --> 00:16:10,902 what was waiting for me inside the school. 225 00:16:10,904 --> 00:16:15,006 A school with a dark history. 226 00:16:15,008 --> 00:16:18,776 There had been a massive hurricane back in the '50s. 227 00:16:22,382 --> 00:16:25,917 There was a massive loss of life. 228 00:16:25,919 --> 00:16:28,720 There was, you know, a factor of creepiness 229 00:16:28,722 --> 00:16:30,955 going into that school facility. 230 00:16:37,197 --> 00:16:40,031 To gain access to the classroom, 231 00:16:40,033 --> 00:16:43,101 the officer first needs to get master keys 232 00:16:43,103 --> 00:16:46,037 from the mechanical room. 233 00:16:46,039 --> 00:16:47,872 So, I have to be on alert 234 00:16:47,874 --> 00:16:51,776 and always listening for any potential sounds 235 00:16:51,778 --> 00:16:54,412 that might give away an intruder. 236 00:16:59,652 --> 00:17:03,721 My first instinct is to lower the volume on my two-way radio 237 00:17:03,723 --> 00:17:08,226 so that I could have some degree of sneakiness and stealth. 238 00:17:08,228 --> 00:17:10,895 I would also hold tightly to the key 239 00:17:10,897 --> 00:17:13,664 so they wouldn't be jingling when I walked. 240 00:17:26,780 --> 00:17:31,315 It was at that point that I thought I heard footsteps 241 00:17:31,317 --> 00:17:36,587 on the upper level of the school directly above me. 242 00:17:44,330 --> 00:17:45,963 As I'm walking through the school, 243 00:17:45,965 --> 00:17:47,999 I realize that there could be an ambush, 244 00:17:48,001 --> 00:17:52,136 and it could be a dangerous situation for any responder. 245 00:17:57,410 --> 00:18:01,446 And at that point, I checked the classrooms on the second floor, 246 00:18:01,448 --> 00:18:03,381 looking for any signs of intrusion, 247 00:18:03,383 --> 00:18:06,217 any signs of any activity at all. 248 00:18:11,191 --> 00:18:13,391 Everything was secure. 249 00:18:16,262 --> 00:18:18,896 The one door that isn't secured 250 00:18:18,898 --> 00:18:23,234 is the one that leads into the classroom with the open window. 251 00:18:25,638 --> 00:18:28,873 There is no signs of forced entry in the classroom. 252 00:18:28,875 --> 00:18:31,676 There is no signs of vandalism, nothing knocked over, 253 00:18:31,678 --> 00:18:33,578 nothing immediately out of place, 254 00:18:33,580 --> 00:18:35,613 nothing that would suggest that anything illicit 255 00:18:35,615 --> 00:18:37,648 had happened in that building. 256 00:18:43,022 --> 00:18:44,589 And that's when I heard something 257 00:18:44,591 --> 00:18:46,624 that chilled me to the bone. 258 00:18:51,297 --> 00:18:56,300 It sounded like a young woman, maybe in her teens or 20s. 259 00:19:04,010 --> 00:19:05,776 I started hearing the footsteps again. 260 00:19:05,778 --> 00:19:08,179 The sound of creaking wood. 261 00:19:10,483 --> 00:19:13,484 Way too heavy to be a raccoon or a squirrel 262 00:19:13,486 --> 00:19:15,052 or anything small animal. 263 00:19:15,054 --> 00:19:17,822 Definitely human-sized. 264 00:19:43,516 --> 00:19:45,616 There is no one there. 265 00:19:45,618 --> 00:19:47,585 I didn't know what to make of it. 266 00:19:47,587 --> 00:19:49,153 There was no one physically there. 267 00:19:49,155 --> 00:19:51,656 You're hesitating using the word "ghost," 268 00:19:51,658 --> 00:19:54,825 but that's what you're talking about. 269 00:19:54,827 --> 00:19:58,229 I guess that's what was I was talking about. 270 00:19:58,231 --> 00:20:01,132 I was absolutely terrified. 271 00:20:05,972 --> 00:20:08,873 While investigating a possible school break-in... 272 00:20:10,877 --> 00:20:13,144 ...security officer Chris Sensicle 273 00:20:13,146 --> 00:20:17,248 is forced to believe he may be dealing with the paranormal. 274 00:20:20,820 --> 00:20:23,554 I don't know what this is, but there was no one else 275 00:20:23,556 --> 00:20:26,958 in that building with me in the physical sense. 276 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,461 When you're experiencing things moving 277 00:20:30,463 --> 00:20:33,698 during a paranormal event, such as something being thrown, 278 00:20:33,700 --> 00:20:36,234 people do feel targeted by that, 279 00:20:36,236 --> 00:20:38,035 and it's often hard to understand 280 00:20:38,037 --> 00:20:41,472 what the intent behind it is. 281 00:20:41,474 --> 00:20:44,408 For a ghost to move something of physical mass 282 00:20:44,410 --> 00:20:48,312 and put the amount of energy to focus on that particular item 283 00:20:48,314 --> 00:20:50,281 means that they have a certain intent 284 00:20:50,283 --> 00:20:51,882 behind what they're doing. 285 00:20:51,884 --> 00:21:00,424 The question is what is that intent. 286 00:21:00,426 --> 00:21:02,860 I heard what sounded like footsteps 287 00:21:02,862 --> 00:21:07,999 Definitely only one set, and it was moving fairly slow. 288 00:21:08,001 --> 00:21:12,536 Phantom footsteps are one of the most occurring phenomena 289 00:21:12,538 --> 00:21:16,207 that people hear during a haunting. 290 00:21:16,209 --> 00:21:18,609 These are audible sounds 291 00:21:18,611 --> 00:21:22,747 that people will pick up during a manifestation of a spirit, 292 00:21:22,749 --> 00:21:27,351 or sometimes people can pick these up on a psychic level. 293 00:21:27,353 --> 00:21:30,621 The footsteps lead him back to the classroom 294 00:21:30,623 --> 00:21:33,858 with the open window. 295 00:21:33,860 --> 00:21:36,527 The window was open again. 296 00:21:36,529 --> 00:21:40,865 It could have been any number of things in the rational mind. 297 00:21:40,867 --> 00:21:43,868 Maybe it was a school child playing a prank. 298 00:21:43,870 --> 00:21:45,436 Far-fetched as that sounds, 299 00:21:45,438 --> 00:21:48,105 your rational brain takes over, and you try to make up excuses 300 00:21:48,107 --> 00:21:51,008 as to why things are the way they are. 301 00:22:05,525 --> 00:22:09,960 The room is hit by hurricane-like winds. 302 00:22:39,625 --> 00:22:44,662 He considers calling for backup, but what would he say? 303 00:22:44,664 --> 00:22:47,732 At that point, I made my way back into the boiler room 304 00:22:47,734 --> 00:22:50,101 to replace the keys in the lockbox. 305 00:22:50,103 --> 00:22:54,338 I wanted to get there as soon as possible. 306 00:22:54,340 --> 00:22:57,007 When I got inside the boiler room, the lights were off, 307 00:22:57,009 --> 00:22:59,610 and I remember distinctly leaving them on. 308 00:23:03,783 --> 00:23:05,716 At that point, my mind was racing. 309 00:23:05,718 --> 00:23:09,186 I thought there could be someone else in that room. 310 00:23:09,188 --> 00:23:12,656 I made my way back to where the lockbox is. 311 00:23:12,658 --> 00:23:14,258 It was how I had left it, 312 00:23:14,260 --> 00:23:17,928 and the padlock was kind of resting on the hasp. 313 00:23:29,609 --> 00:23:32,209 Suddenly, the padlock just flew across the floor. 314 00:23:32,211 --> 00:23:35,746 It was almost like someone had hit the padlock 315 00:23:35,748 --> 00:23:38,315 and it skidded across the pavement. 316 00:23:38,317 --> 00:23:43,053 I got the sense that it was an overt act. 317 00:23:43,055 --> 00:23:46,357 Typically when we find that things are thrown people, 318 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,394 it's generally some type of warning. 319 00:23:50,396 --> 00:23:52,630 This is beyond the scope of my training, 320 00:23:52,632 --> 00:23:55,900 and beyond what I should be dealing with. 321 00:24:02,809 --> 00:24:04,942 What scared me worse was I started 322 00:24:04,944 --> 00:24:06,310 hearing the footsteps again 323 00:24:06,312 --> 00:24:08,712 on the second floor of the building. 324 00:24:14,353 --> 00:24:16,487 I exited the building... 325 00:24:20,059 --> 00:24:23,194 ...and got back to my vehicle. 326 00:24:31,737 --> 00:24:35,639 I never mentioned this to any of my colleagues or supervisors. 327 00:24:35,641 --> 00:24:36,941 Why? 328 00:24:36,943 --> 00:24:40,711 It gets back to the whole ridicule thing, 329 00:24:40,713 --> 00:24:43,547 and who would believe me? 330 00:24:43,549 --> 00:24:46,750 But it starts all over again six months later. 331 00:24:46,752 --> 00:24:48,486 Approximately, yeah. 332 00:24:48,488 --> 00:24:51,755 Officer Sensicle gets an emergency call 333 00:24:51,757 --> 00:24:53,791 to the same school. 334 00:24:53,793 --> 00:24:57,027 Alarm activation 462 Elm Street, East Entrance. 335 00:24:57,029 --> 00:24:59,563 All the alarm company had told me is 336 00:24:59,565 --> 00:25:02,967 that they had an unknown sound or unknown noise 337 00:25:02,969 --> 00:25:05,169 occurring inside the school facility, 338 00:25:05,171 --> 00:25:07,004 and I was dispatched to investigate. 339 00:25:07,006 --> 00:25:10,107 With his last visit still fresh in his mind, 340 00:25:10,109 --> 00:25:13,143 Officer Sensicle is less than enthusiastic 341 00:25:13,145 --> 00:25:15,779 about going back inside the school, 342 00:25:15,781 --> 00:25:19,316 which has since installed a high-tech alarm system. 343 00:25:19,318 --> 00:25:21,652 So, this particular alarm system 344 00:25:21,654 --> 00:25:25,890 works differently than, say, a burglar alarm system. 345 00:25:25,892 --> 00:25:29,360 This one had microphones placed all the way around the school, 346 00:25:29,362 --> 00:25:33,297 and the Central Station Security Monitoring Company 347 00:25:33,299 --> 00:25:36,400 would listen in actively to the school, 348 00:25:36,402 --> 00:25:40,437 and if any sounds of broken glass or voices 349 00:25:40,439 --> 00:25:43,140 or anything that was out of the ordinary came in, 350 00:25:43,142 --> 00:25:45,709 they would be able to say which part of the school 351 00:25:45,711 --> 00:25:48,579 was picking up the noise. 352 00:25:48,581 --> 00:25:52,750 They were able to determine that the microphone 353 00:25:52,752 --> 00:25:54,985 that was picking up the noise 354 00:25:54,987 --> 00:25:58,389 was from the auditorium part of the school. 355 00:26:04,797 --> 00:26:10,901 I didn't hear a sound other than the sounds I made from myself. 356 00:26:10,903 --> 00:26:12,937 At this point, I've got no other reason to think 357 00:26:12,939 --> 00:26:15,973 that maybe the technology has failed. 358 00:26:15,975 --> 00:26:20,477 Maybe they're picking up sounds from another property. 359 00:26:20,479 --> 00:26:22,846 Could even have been someone walking on the outside 360 00:26:22,848 --> 00:26:24,615 being noisy that tripped the sensor, 361 00:26:24,617 --> 00:26:27,751 but there's nothing happening inside the school. 362 00:26:29,922 --> 00:26:35,926 Hello?! 363 00:26:35,928 --> 00:26:37,628 This is dispatch. 364 00:26:37,630 --> 00:26:39,096 Are you okay, Chris? 365 00:26:39,098 --> 00:26:42,700 All of a sudden, my two-way radio starts going crazy, 366 00:26:42,702 --> 00:26:45,269 and my dispatcher is calling me. 367 00:26:45,271 --> 00:26:47,071 I'm, - I'm fine. 368 00:26:47,073 --> 00:26:50,507 The tone of his voice is panicked, almost. 369 00:26:50,509 --> 00:26:51,875 Hang tight, Chris. 370 00:26:51,877 --> 00:26:54,078 Police have been dispatched to your location. 371 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,381 Why? What's the problem? 372 00:26:57,383 --> 00:26:58,949 I was just about to clear the building. 373 00:26:58,951 --> 00:27:02,152 I was confused. Why were the police coming? 374 00:27:02,154 --> 00:27:05,122 I told the dispatcher to cancel the police. 375 00:27:05,124 --> 00:27:06,557 I didn't want the police. 376 00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:09,426 There was no reason for the police to be involved. 377 00:27:09,428 --> 00:27:11,729 What's all the screaming about? 378 00:27:11,731 --> 00:27:13,063 Screaming? 379 00:27:13,065 --> 00:27:15,766 The dispatcher told me the Monitoring Center 380 00:27:15,768 --> 00:27:20,004 was actively listening into my progress 381 00:27:20,006 --> 00:27:23,741 walking through the school and heard a woman 382 00:27:23,743 --> 00:27:25,609 screaming for help. You can't hear that? 383 00:27:25,611 --> 00:27:27,478 Can you patch it through to your mic? 384 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,813 Dispatch plays back the recording 385 00:27:29,815 --> 00:27:34,184 of what they've been hearing through the officer's radio. 386 00:27:37,056 --> 00:27:40,324 I could hear what I would describe 387 00:27:40,326 --> 00:27:42,593 as a young woman screaming for help. 388 00:27:45,564 --> 00:27:47,564 Please help me! Please help me! Please! 389 00:27:47,566 --> 00:27:52,102 What I heard was "Help me" and unintelligible screaming 390 00:27:52,104 --> 00:27:54,071 Frantic, panicked screaming. 391 00:27:54,073 --> 00:27:57,808 Please help me! Please! 392 00:27:57,810 --> 00:28:01,245 Dispatch. Dispatch, come back. Please. 393 00:28:01,247 --> 00:28:03,447 This woman was screaming for help, 394 00:28:03,449 --> 00:28:05,949 imploring someone to please come and help her. 395 00:28:05,951 --> 00:28:08,852 Hello?! 396 00:28:08,854 --> 00:28:11,055 Dispatch! 397 00:28:11,057 --> 00:28:13,157 Please help me. Please. Please help me. 398 00:28:13,159 --> 00:28:14,458 That's got to be 399 00:28:14,460 --> 00:28:16,060 one of the most terrifying things I've ever heard. 400 00:28:19,565 --> 00:28:21,231 On his second emergency call 401 00:28:21,233 --> 00:28:23,500 to the same school, security officer 402 00:28:23,502 --> 00:28:27,504 Chris Sensicle is shocked when he hears the troubled voice 403 00:28:27,506 --> 00:28:30,908 of a woman who is nowhere to be found. 404 00:28:36,749 --> 00:28:41,185 To hear this woman screaming and even the echoing, 405 00:28:41,187 --> 00:28:42,786 the acoustics of the screaming 406 00:28:42,788 --> 00:28:46,790 in the hallways was downright chilling. 407 00:28:46,792 --> 00:28:48,158 Please! Please help me! 408 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:53,063 Hello? Dispatch. Dispatch, come back, please! 409 00:28:55,501 --> 00:28:58,802 This particular case sounds like a residual haunting. 410 00:28:58,804 --> 00:29:00,871 It's an echo of the past. 411 00:29:00,873 --> 00:29:04,308 It's a sound that's embedded in the environment 412 00:29:04,310 --> 00:29:06,944 that recording equipment can pick up 413 00:29:06,946 --> 00:29:08,879 if present there and recording there at the time. 414 00:29:08,881 --> 00:29:11,014 I'm sure that there was no one 415 00:29:11,016 --> 00:29:13,317 physically inside that school with me. 416 00:29:13,319 --> 00:29:15,119 I was alone. 417 00:29:15,121 --> 00:29:17,354 Hello?! 418 00:29:17,356 --> 00:29:19,790 Dispatch! 419 00:29:19,792 --> 00:29:23,727 It's almost as if these people died with such trauma 420 00:29:23,729 --> 00:29:27,030 and such an emotional impact that they're stuck. 421 00:29:27,032 --> 00:29:30,334 There's something traumatic holding them there. 422 00:29:30,336 --> 00:29:33,403 And either they don't realize they're dead 423 00:29:33,405 --> 00:29:36,573 or they're not ready to move on, 424 00:29:36,575 --> 00:29:40,110 or they're stuck with the ongoing event in their mind, 425 00:29:40,112 --> 00:29:41,712 and their unable to break themselves 426 00:29:41,714 --> 00:29:43,680 from the location that they're in. 427 00:29:43,682 --> 00:29:46,483 Please! Please help me! 428 00:29:46,485 --> 00:29:48,085 Please! Please! 429 00:29:49,989 --> 00:29:51,855 I was very 430 00:29:51,857 --> 00:29:54,625 overwhelmed is not the right word. 431 00:29:54,627 --> 00:29:56,827 That feeling that you get when the hairs 432 00:29:56,829 --> 00:29:59,096 on the back of your neck rise. 433 00:30:21,153 --> 00:30:24,388 I wanted nothing more than to get out of that building 434 00:30:24,390 --> 00:30:27,257 and lock it up and be done with it. 435 00:30:33,432 --> 00:30:36,266 It is a sadness that, you know, 436 00:30:36,268 --> 00:30:40,337 someone, 70 or 80 years later, they're still suffering, 437 00:30:40,339 --> 00:30:44,908 or they're still imprinted in that building. 438 00:30:44,910 --> 00:30:48,812 A lot of times, if a spirit needs help, 439 00:30:48,814 --> 00:30:51,949 they will try to communicate the tragedy. 440 00:30:51,951 --> 00:30:54,651 They want people to understand why they died 441 00:30:54,653 --> 00:30:58,522 and hopefully get that person to help them, 442 00:30:58,524 --> 00:31:00,157 you know, move on as a spirit. 443 00:31:00,159 --> 00:31:02,059 Base to 5. Base to 5. 444 00:31:02,061 --> 00:31:05,095 Can you get back inside, 5? Can you return, 5? 445 00:31:05,097 --> 00:31:06,763 I was asked whether or not 446 00:31:06,765 --> 00:31:09,733 I wanted to go back inside, and I declined. 447 00:31:09,735 --> 00:31:12,803 I didn't think I wanted to go back inside. 448 00:31:12,805 --> 00:31:14,872 Why? 449 00:31:14,874 --> 00:31:17,207 The logical part of my brain said 450 00:31:17,209 --> 00:31:19,209 that I had already patrolled the inside, 451 00:31:19,211 --> 00:31:20,944 and everything was secure inside there. 452 00:31:20,946 --> 00:31:22,946 There was no reason to re-check it. 453 00:31:22,948 --> 00:31:26,149 But deep down, I guess I thought 454 00:31:26,151 --> 00:31:28,418 that if there was a ghost in there, 455 00:31:28,420 --> 00:31:30,053 I didn't want anything to do with it. 456 00:31:32,124 --> 00:31:35,859 This wasn't just a place for survivors of the hurricane. 457 00:31:35,861 --> 00:31:39,663 It was a place for the dead. 458 00:31:39,665 --> 00:31:42,299 When I'd looked into it after the fact, 459 00:31:42,301 --> 00:31:46,803 I found out that the auditorium was used as a temporary morgue 460 00:31:46,805 --> 00:31:50,240 during the massive hurricane in Toronto. 461 00:31:52,778 --> 00:31:57,281 With that revelation that I was now walking through 462 00:31:57,283 --> 00:32:01,318 a potential graveyard of lost souls, 463 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:06,123 I guess it makes a lot of sense that I could've been haunted 464 00:32:06,125 --> 00:32:08,625 or imprinted on by someone 465 00:32:08,627 --> 00:32:10,994 who had lost their life during that event. 466 00:32:15,901 --> 00:32:18,235 A lot of times if a spirit needs help, 467 00:32:18,237 --> 00:32:23,073 they will try to communicate the tragedy. 468 00:32:23,075 --> 00:32:25,809 They want people to understand why they died 469 00:32:25,811 --> 00:32:29,046 and hopefully get that person to help them, 470 00:32:29,048 --> 00:32:31,315 you know, move on as a spirit. 471 00:32:38,924 --> 00:32:41,058 I've always been a very logical person 472 00:32:41,060 --> 00:32:46,563 that would want to get the facts before I make a decision up, 473 00:32:46,565 --> 00:32:49,566 but based on what happened to me on those nights, 474 00:32:49,568 --> 00:32:54,037 I believe these is more to the world than what we see. 475 00:32:54,039 --> 00:32:57,374 I'm a believer now. 476 00:33:15,527 --> 00:33:18,562 911, please state your emergency. 477 00:33:35,814 --> 00:33:40,517 Responding to a 911 call of a possible assault 478 00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:45,822 is ex-soldier and certified EMT Patrick Newcomb and his partner. 479 00:33:45,824 --> 00:33:48,959 I was working in central Texas in a very large city. 480 00:33:48,961 --> 00:33:51,461 We just dropped of a patient at the hospital, 481 00:33:51,463 --> 00:33:55,265 and they dispatched us on another 911 call for an assault. 482 00:33:55,267 --> 00:33:58,235 Someone could actually be dying. 483 00:33:58,237 --> 00:34:00,437 The scene of the crime is the parking lot 484 00:34:00,439 --> 00:34:03,840 of a recently abandoned hospital. 485 00:34:03,842 --> 00:34:07,644 The hospital has been shut down for a couple months already. 486 00:34:07,646 --> 00:34:10,280 They basically used the hospital just for training. 487 00:34:10,282 --> 00:34:13,016 With San Antonio being one of the worst cities 488 00:34:13,018 --> 00:34:19,489 in the U.S. for serious crimes, the building is heavily secured. 489 00:34:19,491 --> 00:34:22,893 The police do keep the hospital locked up, you know, 490 00:34:22,895 --> 00:34:24,394 and they check on it nightly. 491 00:34:24,396 --> 00:34:26,396 But as far as a victim goes, 492 00:34:26,398 --> 00:34:30,734 there's no sign of one anywhere, suggesting a prank. 493 00:34:30,736 --> 00:34:34,604 False calls usually happen 5 out of 10 calls. 494 00:34:34,606 --> 00:34:36,139 You know, it's taking people 495 00:34:36,141 --> 00:34:38,175 that actually need an ambulance out of the service. 496 00:34:41,213 --> 00:34:44,014 But what is much, much harder to explain 497 00:34:44,016 --> 00:34:47,984 is why the door is suddenly unlocked. 498 00:34:53,058 --> 00:34:56,660 Patrick. 499 00:34:56,662 --> 00:34:58,428 The doors were wide open. 500 00:34:58,430 --> 00:35:01,698 That freaked me out, and I didn't know what to think. 501 00:35:03,869 --> 00:35:06,503 Despite the sudden mystery, 502 00:35:06,505 --> 00:35:08,538 Patrick decides to go in, 503 00:35:08,540 --> 00:35:12,209 still on the lookout for his assault victim. 504 00:35:15,447 --> 00:35:19,015 If I would've known what I was about to see there, 505 00:35:19,017 --> 00:35:20,917 I would've never gone. 506 00:35:20,919 --> 00:35:23,887 911, is rescue needed? 507 00:35:23,889 --> 00:35:26,289 If you can hear me, press a button on your phone. 508 00:35:28,427 --> 00:35:30,160 Responding to a 911 call of an assault 509 00:35:30,162 --> 00:35:32,496 outside an abandoned hospital, 510 00:35:32,498 --> 00:35:35,499 Texas EMTs Patrick Newcomb and his partner 511 00:35:35,501 --> 00:35:40,203 find no trace of a crime, only a bizarre mystery. 512 00:35:42,774 --> 00:35:46,176 Still searching for a possible victim, 513 00:35:46,178 --> 00:35:50,080 they head into the dark building, 514 00:35:50,082 --> 00:35:54,050 built over what was once a Civil War hospital. 515 00:35:57,623 --> 00:35:59,923 You can imagine the wounded soldiers 516 00:35:59,925 --> 00:36:01,925 and the death that, you know, 517 00:36:01,927 --> 00:36:04,661 was part of that hospital back then. 518 00:36:04,663 --> 00:36:07,564 For those who most recently worked here, 519 00:36:07,566 --> 00:36:10,600 the place was believed to be haunted. 520 00:36:10,602 --> 00:36:12,702 I've asked a lot of the nurses that used to work 521 00:36:12,704 --> 00:36:14,804 at that hospital about the history, 522 00:36:14,806 --> 00:36:17,574 and they said on a daily basis 523 00:36:17,576 --> 00:36:20,110 they would see Civil War soldiers, 524 00:36:20,112 --> 00:36:22,212 Vietnam Soldiers walking down the hallway, 525 00:36:22,214 --> 00:36:24,047 and they would say, "Hey, sir. Sir, you can't go in there," 526 00:36:24,049 --> 00:36:26,650 and this person would just disappear. 527 00:36:37,896 --> 00:36:40,263 Entities seem to be able, on the whole, 528 00:36:40,265 --> 00:36:41,998 to be able to manipulate their environment, 529 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,302 including moving extremely heavy pieces of furniture, 530 00:36:45,304 --> 00:36:48,972 heavy objects, and things like that. 531 00:36:48,974 --> 00:36:51,174 But as an Army veteran, 532 00:36:51,176 --> 00:36:55,745 Patrick is not the type to frighten easily. 533 00:36:55,747 --> 00:36:58,215 I've served in Iraq, and I've seen a lot of things 534 00:36:58,217 --> 00:37:03,119 people blown up, shot, you name it. 535 00:37:03,121 --> 00:37:04,387 Just bad stuff. 536 00:37:10,395 --> 00:37:13,563 With no clear plan, they head down to the basement, 537 00:37:13,565 --> 00:37:16,399 toward the oldest section of the building... 538 00:37:21,807 --> 00:37:25,408 ...where visibility is nearly zero. 539 00:37:25,410 --> 00:37:29,379 It was just, like, a black brick wall. 540 00:37:29,381 --> 00:37:31,548 I couldn't see anything. 541 00:37:38,423 --> 00:37:41,825 They reach a cold chamber in what used to be 542 00:37:41,827 --> 00:37:44,661 the old Civil War hospital's morgue... 543 00:37:49,101 --> 00:37:52,669 ...which, according to what they know about the building, 544 00:37:52,671 --> 00:37:55,872 should be completely empty. 545 00:37:59,344 --> 00:38:01,211 That kind of freaked me out right there. 546 00:38:01,213 --> 00:38:05,448 He has no idea where the bodies have come from. 547 00:38:11,757 --> 00:38:13,823 Suddenly, there was somebody standing there 548 00:38:13,825 --> 00:38:18,928 beside the door a huge figure, about 8-foot tall. 549 00:38:18,930 --> 00:38:22,332 There was no face. It was just a blank, white 550 00:38:22,334 --> 00:38:25,869 I don't know what you want to call it. 551 00:38:25,871 --> 00:38:27,470 And that scared the out of me, 552 00:38:27,472 --> 00:38:31,374 and I was basically frozen. 553 00:38:34,813 --> 00:38:37,547 The only thing that ran through my mind was 554 00:38:37,549 --> 00:38:39,649 it's the Grim Reaper. 555 00:38:43,422 --> 00:38:45,755 Patrick. 556 00:38:45,757 --> 00:38:47,490 I wanted the out of there. 557 00:38:47,492 --> 00:38:49,759 Patrick. 558 00:38:49,761 --> 00:38:53,396 In paranormal lore, the Grim Reaper is an entity 559 00:38:53,398 --> 00:38:56,933 that comes to get you because you're about to die. 560 00:39:01,106 --> 00:39:03,940 Patrick's reaction is normal for somebody 561 00:39:03,942 --> 00:39:06,943 who is facing something that may be there to hurt him. 562 00:39:06,945 --> 00:39:08,945 Patrick. 563 00:39:08,947 --> 00:39:15,051 A dark entity, unhindered by time or space. 564 00:39:18,890 --> 00:39:22,759 This is a fear on a level that I can't even explain. 565 00:39:25,964 --> 00:39:28,365 I've seen people dying in my arms. 566 00:39:31,636 --> 00:39:33,370 To me, this situation was 567 00:39:33,372 --> 00:39:35,839 the most terrifying situation I've been in. 568 00:39:38,443 --> 00:39:40,610 Patrick's got a military background, 569 00:39:40,612 --> 00:39:43,179 and he's trained to protect those around him. 570 00:39:43,181 --> 00:39:46,850 So, he did what any person would do in this situation, 571 00:39:46,852 --> 00:39:48,785 which is to get out of there as fast as possible. 572 00:39:48,787 --> 00:39:50,754 This thing comes after people. 573 00:39:50,756 --> 00:39:54,224 I didn't want to die, so I got the hell out of there. 574 00:39:54,226 --> 00:39:56,693 Just, boom. I'm gone. 575 00:40:00,632 --> 00:40:06,936 It's possible that it was coming for me, or maybe my partner. 576 00:40:06,938 --> 00:40:10,073 I wanted to put as much distance between the hospital 577 00:40:10,075 --> 00:40:12,008 and my ambulance as possible. 578 00:40:12,010 --> 00:40:13,576 Just floored it. 579 00:40:17,616 --> 00:40:21,284 Automatically, we called dispatch to radio the police. 580 00:40:21,286 --> 00:40:23,553 "Hey, somebody broke into the old hospital. 581 00:40:23,555 --> 00:40:25,522 Get them out there to see 582 00:40:25,524 --> 00:40:27,457 exactly what they're going to find." 583 00:40:27,459 --> 00:40:29,058 I didn't tell them what I saw 584 00:40:29,060 --> 00:40:32,562 just because I didn't want them to think I was crazy. 585 00:40:32,564 --> 00:40:38,635 As the EMTs speed away, they make a secret vow of silence. 586 00:40:38,637 --> 00:40:40,770 We didn't talk about it at all. 587 00:40:40,772 --> 00:40:43,540 It was just, like, we left it alone 588 00:40:43,542 --> 00:40:46,376 and we both wanted to basically forget about it. 589 00:40:46,378 --> 00:40:48,344 You know, "Hey, this did not happen." 590 00:40:48,346 --> 00:40:50,380 When police later arrive 591 00:40:50,382 --> 00:40:53,483 at the abandoned hospital, the doors are chained 592 00:40:53,485 --> 00:40:57,487 and padlocked as per usual. 593 00:40:57,489 --> 00:41:00,557 When they came back and said, "There's nobody there. 594 00:41:00,559 --> 00:41:02,325 Everything's locked up and chained," 595 00:41:02,327 --> 00:41:05,395 I didn't know what to think. 596 00:41:05,397 --> 00:41:07,130 I'm very convinced of what I saw. 597 00:41:07,132 --> 00:41:10,867 I mean, my partner's seen the same exact thing as I saw. 598 00:41:10,869 --> 00:41:16,239 It's not possible we both, you know, imagined...this thing. 599 00:41:16,241 --> 00:41:19,175 Now, before this took place, I was a total skeptic. 600 00:41:19,177 --> 00:41:21,010 I didn't believe in any paranormal. 601 00:41:21,012 --> 00:41:22,412 I was like, "It's all a joke. 602 00:41:22,414 --> 00:41:24,147 It's all made up." 603 00:41:24,149 --> 00:41:25,882 After that, I was 604 00:41:25,884 --> 00:41:28,451 I mean, there's no way to tell me anything different. 605 00:41:28,453 --> 00:41:31,221 You know, I know what I've seen. 606 00:41:31,223 --> 00:41:34,123 For weeks after that, I was very careful 607 00:41:34,125 --> 00:41:37,260 because I'm thinking to myself, "I've just seen the Grim Reaper, 608 00:41:37,262 --> 00:41:40,263 and it's going to get me," you know? 609 00:41:40,265 --> 00:41:41,564 "Something's going to happen to me." 610 00:41:41,566 --> 00:41:44,868 So, I was basically watching every step that I took 611 00:41:44,870 --> 00:41:46,936 and being, like, over-cautious 612 00:41:46,938 --> 00:41:51,407 in everything that I did because I didn't want to die. 48211

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