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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,704 --> 00:00:11,924 - We've had vulnerable military veterans 2 00:00:12,012 --> 00:00:14,753 who just went to the hospital to get medical care 3 00:00:14,797 --> 00:00:15,841 and they never went home. 4 00:00:15,928 --> 00:00:17,408 - Ready. 5 00:00:17,495 --> 00:00:19,367 Aim. 6 00:00:19,454 --> 00:00:21,238 - None of them were expected to die when they were 7 00:00:21,325 --> 00:00:23,762 admitted into this hospital. 8 00:00:23,849 --> 00:00:25,503 - Pull. 9 00:00:29,768 --> 00:00:32,467 - The medical examiner saw a bruising on the abdomen 10 00:00:32,554 --> 00:00:35,557 of one of the patients that indicated an injection point. 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,255 These patients were given insulin, which killed them. 12 00:00:38,342 --> 00:00:40,214 And so now, we're dealing with a murder case. 13 00:00:42,825 --> 00:00:43,956 - So we're collecting sharps containers, 14 00:00:44,044 --> 00:00:48,048 which include IV lines and IV bags. 15 00:00:48,135 --> 00:00:50,093 - We did not have any surveillance footage. 16 00:00:50,180 --> 00:00:51,790 There was no eyewitness. 17 00:00:51,921 --> 00:00:54,141 We didn't know, was it a staff member? 18 00:00:54,271 --> 00:00:56,360 Was it somebody coming off the street? 19 00:00:56,491 --> 00:00:57,622 - We work with Facebook. 20 00:00:57,753 --> 00:00:59,755 We end up recovering those messages. 21 00:00:59,842 --> 00:01:01,931 One message, "I could kill this patient." 22 00:01:04,542 --> 00:01:05,935 - You have access to their phone calls? 23 00:01:06,066 --> 00:01:07,067 - Absolutely. 24 00:01:09,373 --> 00:01:10,766 - There was one call in particular 25 00:01:10,853 --> 00:01:12,289 that's absolutely gut-wrenching. 26 00:01:17,077 --> 00:01:18,556 - It's tense beyond all belief. 27 00:01:18,643 --> 00:01:22,169 - These were veterans who had served America, 28 00:01:22,256 --> 00:01:24,084 and we don't have the luxury of time. 29 00:01:24,214 --> 00:01:25,346 - Another death could be around the corner, really. 30 00:01:25,476 --> 00:01:26,347 - Exactly. 31 00:01:33,832 --> 00:01:36,574 - In the FBI, we make a lot of headlines. 32 00:01:40,012 --> 00:01:41,362 Drug busts, 33 00:01:41,449 --> 00:01:43,973 mob stings, 34 00:01:44,104 --> 00:01:45,975 terrorist takedowns. 35 00:01:46,106 --> 00:01:47,846 - Get down! Get down! 36 00:01:47,977 --> 00:01:50,327 - We understand why people want to tell stories about us. 37 00:01:50,414 --> 00:01:51,328 - Mark it. 38 00:01:51,414 --> 00:01:52,808 - Freeze! - FBI. 39 00:01:52,938 --> 00:01:54,592 - FBI! - Action! 40 00:01:54,679 --> 00:01:56,027 - But they don't know the half of it. 41 00:01:58,422 --> 00:01:59,989 What really goes down, 42 00:02:00,076 --> 00:02:02,339 we save that for each other 43 00:02:02,426 --> 00:02:04,646 when we're talking agent-to-agent. 44 00:02:07,823 --> 00:02:11,261 This is "FBI True." 45 00:02:18,921 --> 00:02:21,445 - On the evening of June 27, 2018, 46 00:02:21,532 --> 00:02:23,578 our duty agent received a call from the director 47 00:02:23,665 --> 00:02:28,539 of the VA Medical Center in Clarksburg, West Virginia, 48 00:02:28,626 --> 00:02:31,368 who wanted to report to CID that the facility 49 00:02:31,454 --> 00:02:34,023 had identified a series of significant 50 00:02:34,110 --> 00:02:36,852 hypoglycemic events, all of which occurred 51 00:02:36,939 --> 00:02:38,070 on the same ward at the hospital 52 00:02:38,158 --> 00:02:39,768 during a six-month time frame. 53 00:02:39,898 --> 00:02:42,771 - When you say several hypoglycemic events, 54 00:02:42,858 --> 00:02:44,251 were they injured? 55 00:02:44,338 --> 00:02:45,339 In a coma? 56 00:02:45,469 --> 00:02:47,123 Like, what's the result of that? 57 00:02:47,210 --> 00:02:50,692 - Kristy Kottis is a 24-year veteran of the FBI. 58 00:02:50,779 --> 00:02:53,999 She worked Gangs, Crimes Against Children, 59 00:02:54,130 --> 00:02:56,828 as well as Human and Drug Trafficking. 60 00:02:56,915 --> 00:02:58,439 - When those low blood sugars were recorded, 61 00:02:58,526 --> 00:02:59,788 they were so low. 62 00:02:59,875 --> 00:03:02,312 Eight of those inpatients had subsequently died. 63 00:03:02,399 --> 00:03:05,185 - In fact, when you look at the medical records for these eight 64 00:03:05,272 --> 00:03:08,579 patients, you see that they were expected to be discharged. 65 00:03:08,666 --> 00:03:10,407 None of them were expected to die when they were 66 00:03:10,538 --> 00:03:12,192 admitted into this hospital. 67 00:03:12,279 --> 00:03:14,716 - We want to know, how did this happen? 68 00:03:14,803 --> 00:03:18,807 Was this an accident, or are we dealing with a murderer? 69 00:03:18,850 --> 00:03:21,462 - Jarod Douglas has worked in the US Attorney's Office 70 00:03:21,549 --> 00:03:23,507 since 2012, prosecuting cases 71 00:03:23,594 --> 00:03:26,162 involving national security, civil rights, 72 00:03:26,293 --> 00:03:30,949 corruption and fraud. 73 00:03:31,036 --> 00:03:33,082 - And these weren't just any patients. 74 00:03:33,168 --> 00:03:35,998 These were veterans who had served America, 75 00:03:36,085 --> 00:03:37,434 been deployed overseas, 76 00:03:37,521 --> 00:03:41,351 and they were seeking treatment at the VA. 77 00:03:41,438 --> 00:03:44,615 - Ashley Archibald joined the FBI in 2016. 78 00:03:44,746 --> 00:03:47,618 She's worked cases involving white-collar crime, 79 00:03:47,704 --> 00:03:52,971 violent crime, and international terrorism. 80 00:03:53,058 --> 00:03:55,583 - There's very strong military ties 81 00:03:55,670 --> 00:03:57,367 for the folks in West Virginia. 82 00:03:57,454 --> 00:03:59,891 - And not only did each of these gentlemen 83 00:03:59,978 --> 00:04:03,025 honorably serve their country, the majority of our veterans 84 00:04:03,112 --> 00:04:05,506 were buried with full military rites and honors. 85 00:04:15,603 --> 00:04:19,259 - All of them were hard-working fathers, 86 00:04:19,346 --> 00:04:22,262 grandfathers, great-grandfathers. 87 00:04:48,549 --> 00:04:50,899 - So we set up a command post in the basement 88 00:04:50,986 --> 00:04:54,642 of the medical center and basically started tasking teams 89 00:04:54,729 --> 00:04:58,646 with our partners, with the FBI here, to initiate interviews. 90 00:04:58,689 --> 00:05:00,604 - Keith Vereb has been with 91 00:05:00,735 --> 00:05:01,866 the Department of Veterans Affairs Office 92 00:05:01,953 --> 00:05:04,565 of the Inspector General since 2008, 93 00:05:04,695 --> 00:05:06,871 investigating violent crimes, drug offenses, 94 00:05:06,958 --> 00:05:09,657 and fraud cases impacting VA personnel 95 00:05:09,744 --> 00:05:12,790 and veterans themselves. 96 00:05:12,877 --> 00:05:15,489 - We didn't know if there was a potential bad actor. 97 00:05:15,619 --> 00:05:17,621 - We also don't have the luxury of time. 98 00:05:17,707 --> 00:05:20,058 At that point, we haven't identified 99 00:05:20,145 --> 00:05:21,495 what is causing these men to die. 100 00:05:21,625 --> 00:05:22,844 - Another death could be around the corner, really. 101 00:05:22,931 --> 00:05:24,628 - Exactly. 102 00:05:24,715 --> 00:05:26,195 - We had a team set up for medical reviews 103 00:05:26,282 --> 00:05:29,198 to determine a plausible medical explanation for this. 104 00:05:29,329 --> 00:05:33,289 What was alarming here was that half of the inpatients 105 00:05:33,376 --> 00:05:36,553 that were referred to CID, they had never had any issues 106 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,947 with blood sugar a day in their lives. 107 00:05:39,077 --> 00:05:42,298 And then, as we started to learn about hypoglycemia, 108 00:05:42,385 --> 00:05:44,561 our focus became a shift onto 109 00:05:44,605 --> 00:05:46,998 what could cause it, which revealed insulin. 110 00:05:52,308 --> 00:05:54,615 - These patients should not have received insulin, 111 00:05:54,702 --> 00:05:58,532 and they were given insulin, which killed them. 112 00:05:58,619 --> 00:06:00,360 And so now we're dealing with a murder case. 113 00:06:02,971 --> 00:06:05,408 - And so number one concern at that point 114 00:06:05,495 --> 00:06:08,368 is loss of more life, and we have to move quickly. 115 00:06:08,411 --> 00:06:10,195 - From the investigative standpoint, 116 00:06:10,282 --> 00:06:11,849 very early on, we learned that 117 00:06:11,936 --> 00:06:14,199 they were going to be tremendous roadblocks 118 00:06:14,330 --> 00:06:15,549 and obstacles in the way. 119 00:06:15,679 --> 00:06:17,115 We did not have any surveillance footage. 120 00:06:17,246 --> 00:06:18,856 There was no eyewitness. 121 00:06:18,943 --> 00:06:21,032 There was not going to be a smoking gun in this case. 122 00:06:21,163 --> 00:06:25,559 That ward, the Med/Surg Ward 3A, was unlocked. 123 00:06:25,602 --> 00:06:27,604 Anybody could come, day or night, 124 00:06:27,648 --> 00:06:30,302 and there was no tracking protocols for insulin 125 00:06:30,346 --> 00:06:32,304 within the facility. 126 00:06:32,392 --> 00:06:34,219 Anybody could have had access to that insulin 127 00:06:34,306 --> 00:06:35,917 at any point in time. 128 00:06:36,047 --> 00:06:38,093 - We really need to identify someone as soon as possible. 129 00:06:38,180 --> 00:06:39,399 - Was it a fellow veteran? 130 00:06:39,486 --> 00:06:40,574 Was it somebody coming off the street? 131 00:06:40,661 --> 00:06:42,619 Was it a staff member? 132 00:06:42,663 --> 00:06:45,883 - We're looking at, where could we collect evidence from? 133 00:06:45,970 --> 00:06:48,495 If you're looking at insulin-related deaths, 134 00:06:48,582 --> 00:06:50,148 where was the insulin administered, right? 135 00:06:50,235 --> 00:06:52,237 So we're collecting sharps containers, 136 00:06:52,281 --> 00:06:55,850 which include IV lines and IV bags. 137 00:06:55,937 --> 00:06:58,200 - We were literally pulling sharps containers 138 00:06:58,287 --> 00:07:01,333 off of the wall to get those to Quantico for analysis. 139 00:07:01,421 --> 00:07:03,205 - We wanted to test for insulin. 140 00:07:03,292 --> 00:07:06,600 Were there insulin present in those IV bags? 141 00:07:06,687 --> 00:07:08,079 There absolutely shouldn't have been. 142 00:07:08,210 --> 00:07:10,430 So we're obviously looking for direct evidence. 143 00:07:10,517 --> 00:07:12,170 And in the absence of that, 144 00:07:12,257 --> 00:07:14,259 you have to start building a circumstantial case. 145 00:07:14,390 --> 00:07:16,610 - We had, first and foremost, wanted to interview the staff. 146 00:07:16,740 --> 00:07:18,002 Had they seen anything? 147 00:07:18,046 --> 00:07:21,441 Was there anything that was out of the norm? 148 00:07:49,730 --> 00:07:52,123 - Not only did we have one of our VA OIG special agents 149 00:07:52,254 --> 00:07:54,865 in the room, we also had a nurse in the room 150 00:07:54,996 --> 00:07:57,651 from our Office of Health Care Inspections. 151 00:08:24,286 --> 00:08:28,508 - And as we started to talk to staff, there was one employee, 152 00:08:28,595 --> 00:08:31,162 and her biggest comment during that interview was, 153 00:08:31,249 --> 00:08:32,990 "Things are being missed." 154 00:09:17,295 --> 00:09:19,863 - Very early on, we didn't know if there was somebody 155 00:09:19,950 --> 00:09:21,430 who had seen something, so we started 156 00:09:21,517 --> 00:09:23,301 around-the-clock interviews. 157 00:09:23,388 --> 00:09:25,521 And there was one employee, a nursing assistant 158 00:09:25,608 --> 00:09:27,262 by the name of Reta Mays. 159 00:09:27,349 --> 00:09:29,133 She was adamant, multiple instances 160 00:09:29,220 --> 00:09:30,918 during that interview, that things were being missed. 161 00:10:11,828 --> 00:10:12,960 - What are you learning about her? 162 00:10:13,003 --> 00:10:15,745 - So not only was Reta a nursing assistant, 163 00:10:15,789 --> 00:10:17,442 she herself was a veteran. 164 00:10:17,486 --> 00:10:21,098 She had been deployed to Iraq in mid-2000s, 165 00:10:21,185 --> 00:10:24,058 had worked at the hospital for several years prior 166 00:10:24,145 --> 00:10:26,016 to the investigation starting. 167 00:10:26,103 --> 00:10:28,323 People are saying pretty positive things about her. 168 00:10:28,410 --> 00:10:30,412 Nurses talked about to help out, 169 00:10:30,499 --> 00:10:33,981 she would go above and beyond what her actual duties were. 170 00:10:34,068 --> 00:10:38,072 In 2016, she had won Nursing Assistant of the Year 171 00:10:38,159 --> 00:10:40,944 for her work on the ward. 172 00:11:16,893 --> 00:11:18,590 - So looking at it as a prosecutor at this point, 173 00:11:18,678 --> 00:11:20,288 she's showing some genuine concern. 174 00:11:20,418 --> 00:11:21,419 - Like she really cared about them. 175 00:11:21,550 --> 00:11:24,248 She stressed in that interview. 176 00:11:24,292 --> 00:11:25,597 - The case was in its infancy. 177 00:11:25,685 --> 00:11:27,425 We didn't have any direct evidence. 178 00:11:27,512 --> 00:11:29,079 So one of the things that we wanted to do 179 00:11:29,166 --> 00:11:32,561 was determine who, from the facility standpoint, 180 00:11:32,692 --> 00:11:34,519 could have been working when all these events occurred. 181 00:11:34,606 --> 00:11:36,173 Let's pull time cards. 182 00:11:36,304 --> 00:11:37,609 There's about 1,200 employees that work at that facility. 183 00:11:37,697 --> 00:11:38,915 - That's a lot. 184 00:11:39,002 --> 00:11:41,788 - And what we identified was about four employees 185 00:11:41,875 --> 00:11:44,399 who were working on or around when the events occurred. 186 00:11:45,879 --> 00:11:48,403 - You had the psych ward employee, 187 00:11:48,490 --> 00:11:50,013 and then you had a respiratory therapist 188 00:11:50,100 --> 00:11:51,798 who does roam the hospital. 189 00:11:51,885 --> 00:11:55,062 The other one was in ICU. 190 00:11:56,933 --> 00:11:59,153 And one of the clear-cut, alarming things that we saw 191 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,024 was that there was one 3A employee-- 192 00:12:01,895 --> 00:12:03,810 That was working on or around 193 00:12:03,897 --> 00:12:05,594 when all these events occurred-- 194 00:12:05,681 --> 00:12:07,857 Reta Mays. 195 00:12:13,645 --> 00:12:15,343 - Just based off of time card data, 196 00:12:15,430 --> 00:12:19,042 there was one employee who was working on 3A-- 197 00:12:19,129 --> 00:12:19,869 Reta Mays. 198 00:12:23,046 --> 00:12:24,787 In fact, she was the only 3A employee 199 00:12:24,918 --> 00:12:26,354 that was working when all of these 200 00:12:26,441 --> 00:12:28,443 hypoglycemic events occurred. 201 00:12:30,924 --> 00:12:32,882 - But there weren't reports of her 202 00:12:32,926 --> 00:12:35,667 administering any kind of medications, 203 00:12:35,798 --> 00:12:38,061 which were way outside her bounds. 204 00:12:38,192 --> 00:12:40,716 There weren't reports of her handling medication, 205 00:12:40,803 --> 00:12:42,849 even in the medical room. 206 00:13:00,562 --> 00:13:01,650 - Was there somebody who knew a heck of a lot more 207 00:13:01,781 --> 00:13:03,608 about insulin, about hypoglycemia, 208 00:13:03,695 --> 00:13:05,523 about how to administer it, put it in the IV? 209 00:13:05,610 --> 00:13:08,178 Because here again, she's an uncertified, 210 00:13:08,265 --> 00:13:10,137 untrained nursing assistant. 211 00:13:10,267 --> 00:13:13,662 And as a nursing assistant, if there is a clinical aspect 212 00:13:13,705 --> 00:13:15,969 to the position, the most medical thing 213 00:13:16,056 --> 00:13:18,188 that she would be doing would be taking fingersticks, 214 00:13:18,275 --> 00:13:20,843 which you would use to check blood sugar levels. 215 00:13:22,932 --> 00:13:27,632 We did a blind forensic audit of the blood sugar readings 216 00:13:27,719 --> 00:13:29,286 that were recorded on the glucometer, 217 00:13:29,417 --> 00:13:31,636 which essentially captures the fingerstick readings. 218 00:13:31,767 --> 00:13:33,116 - Right. 219 00:13:33,247 --> 00:13:35,423 - And there's a way to look on the glucometer, 220 00:13:35,510 --> 00:13:38,382 the fingerstick machine, and see the employee ID. 221 00:13:38,469 --> 00:13:40,950 - We received a call saying, 222 00:13:41,081 --> 00:13:42,473 "Are you all taking a look at Reta Mays? 223 00:13:42,560 --> 00:13:45,389 "She takes a very disproportionate amount 224 00:13:45,476 --> 00:13:47,000 "of low blood sugar readings 225 00:13:47,087 --> 00:13:48,305 compared to the other staff on the ward." 226 00:13:51,482 --> 00:13:53,354 But I'm looking back at it, and I'm saying, 227 00:13:53,484 --> 00:13:55,182 "We still have three other people, 228 00:13:55,269 --> 00:13:56,923 staff members, we got to rule out." 229 00:13:57,053 --> 00:14:00,578 We have the person in ICU, the psych ward, 230 00:14:00,709 --> 00:14:02,189 and then the respiratory therapist. 231 00:14:02,319 --> 00:14:04,191 What we're able to do is see the key card access 232 00:14:04,278 --> 00:14:06,715 and the computer access for these employees, 233 00:14:06,802 --> 00:14:08,804 and that would put them in other places 234 00:14:08,935 --> 00:14:10,240 at the hospital at the time 235 00:14:10,327 --> 00:14:11,851 that we believe the insulin was given. 236 00:14:17,552 --> 00:14:19,380 - One of the things that was done 237 00:14:19,510 --> 00:14:22,339 is taking all the medical information, 238 00:14:22,426 --> 00:14:26,909 times and dates and charting that out on timelines. 239 00:14:26,996 --> 00:14:29,129 And when Reta Mays was on shift, 240 00:14:29,216 --> 00:14:32,306 you could start seeing the drop in blood sugar, 241 00:14:32,393 --> 00:14:35,004 and then ultimately, them passing away. 242 00:14:37,093 --> 00:14:38,965 - With all the work of the investigative team 243 00:14:39,052 --> 00:14:41,924 and all of these different facets of intel coming in, 244 00:14:42,011 --> 00:14:43,795 we made a recommendation to have Reta Mays 245 00:14:43,883 --> 00:14:45,536 removed from patient care. 246 00:14:45,623 --> 00:14:49,845 She was actually repositioned or stationed in the mail room 247 00:14:49,976 --> 00:14:53,109 on the opposite end of the basement. 248 00:14:56,156 --> 00:14:58,549 And as soon as she's removed from patient care, 249 00:14:58,636 --> 00:15:01,465 we no longer have any severe hypoglycemic event. 250 00:15:01,552 --> 00:15:04,425 There is no other death. 251 00:15:04,468 --> 00:15:07,254 - But there is a big difference between making a decision 252 00:15:07,341 --> 00:15:09,821 to save patients' lives and move her to the mail room, 253 00:15:09,952 --> 00:15:12,999 versus going to court with the evidence that we have 254 00:15:13,086 --> 00:15:15,088 and proving it beyond a shadow of a doubt. 255 00:15:15,175 --> 00:15:18,874 So our next step is BAU sent Supervisory Special Agent 256 00:15:19,005 --> 00:15:22,138 Cari Robins out to conduct our second interview 257 00:15:22,225 --> 00:15:23,792 with Reta Mays. 258 00:15:36,152 --> 00:15:37,371 - Mm-hmm. 259 00:15:50,645 --> 00:15:52,168 - This is not part of a mass interview, 260 00:15:52,255 --> 00:15:54,344 so she is very specifically asked 261 00:15:54,431 --> 00:15:56,781 to come in and sit down and talk. 262 00:15:56,912 --> 00:15:59,567 She's read her Miranda rights. 263 00:16:13,842 --> 00:16:16,279 - Keith, where were you during the second interview of Reta? 264 00:16:16,366 --> 00:16:17,889 - I, along with the rest of the investigative team 265 00:16:18,020 --> 00:16:20,370 at that point, were in the command post, 266 00:16:20,457 --> 00:16:22,242 which was basically adjacent to the room 267 00:16:22,329 --> 00:16:24,635 that we stationed with audio and video feeds. 268 00:16:48,529 --> 00:16:51,140 - There were multiple times where she would engage 269 00:16:51,227 --> 00:16:54,056 and she would converse with Cari. 270 00:17:11,073 --> 00:17:12,596 - How long is the interview? 271 00:17:12,683 --> 00:17:14,468 - I think upwards of four hours. 272 00:17:14,555 --> 00:17:16,512 - It's tense beyond all belief. 273 00:17:16,599 --> 00:17:20,256 We don't know, at any juncture, is she going to give it up? 274 00:17:20,343 --> 00:17:22,214 Are we going to be able to bring some finality to this? 275 00:17:40,929 --> 00:17:43,192 - We're just waiting for her to say the right thing 276 00:17:43,279 --> 00:17:46,195 to be able to go right across the hall and put the cuffs on. 277 00:17:57,163 --> 00:18:00,470 - As Cari's asking her what happened here 278 00:18:00,557 --> 00:18:03,125 and they're starting to touch on the incidents 279 00:18:03,212 --> 00:18:06,563 of hypoglycemia, Reta starts pulling away. 280 00:18:06,694 --> 00:18:09,523 Right? She mentally, physically 281 00:18:09,610 --> 00:18:12,265 is pulling away from the interviewer. 282 00:19:29,646 --> 00:19:31,082 - The question is, does she have some emotional attachment 283 00:19:31,213 --> 00:19:32,823 to these patients that's normal, 284 00:19:32,867 --> 00:19:34,564 that she just is upset about? 285 00:19:34,651 --> 00:19:36,349 Does she feel shame about something? 286 00:19:36,436 --> 00:19:37,915 This can go either way at this point. 287 00:19:38,046 --> 00:19:39,743 - She's sitting back in her chair. 288 00:19:39,874 --> 00:19:43,834 She's crossing her arms, which is a very defensive gesture. 289 00:19:43,921 --> 00:19:46,663 She has long pauses between her answers. 290 00:19:46,707 --> 00:19:49,971 It becomes a little confrontational on Reta's side. 291 00:20:28,052 --> 00:20:31,055 - This, unlike the first interview, was video recorded. 292 00:20:31,142 --> 00:20:33,449 So now we have what we could possibly show in court. 293 00:20:33,536 --> 00:20:35,059 Yes, we don't have a confession, 294 00:20:35,146 --> 00:20:37,105 but look how she's reacting. 295 00:20:40,587 --> 00:20:44,852 - And at that point, after a very long pause 296 00:20:44,939 --> 00:20:48,247 where she's not making eye contact with Cari, 297 00:20:48,334 --> 00:20:50,510 she tells Cari that she thinks she needs a lawyer. 298 00:21:02,957 --> 00:21:06,090 - And that effectively ends the interview. 299 00:21:06,177 --> 00:21:08,310 - We didn't secure a confession, 300 00:21:08,397 --> 00:21:11,139 but it's all down to Reta Mays at this point. 301 00:21:11,226 --> 00:21:12,358 And we're going to probably 302 00:21:12,488 --> 00:21:13,881 have to prove this case in court. 303 00:21:13,968 --> 00:21:15,709 And because this occurred on federal property, 304 00:21:15,796 --> 00:21:18,233 there could be the federal death penalty imposed. 305 00:21:18,364 --> 00:21:20,931 That heightens the level of evidence 306 00:21:20,975 --> 00:21:23,412 that we need, the pressure that our office is putting 307 00:21:23,543 --> 00:21:25,806 on the investigators to get every piece of evidence 308 00:21:25,893 --> 00:21:27,373 they can to prove that this was Reta Mays. 309 00:21:36,251 --> 00:21:37,905 - We need to examine the bodies. 310 00:21:37,992 --> 00:21:40,386 The medical examiner issues a report that says 311 00:21:40,473 --> 00:21:43,954 the cause of death was homicide. 312 00:21:44,041 --> 00:21:46,653 - Insulin is what killed these patients, 313 00:21:46,783 --> 00:21:49,699 and Reta Mays administered that insulin to them. 314 00:21:49,786 --> 00:21:52,354 So we go to pull her Facebook messages. 315 00:21:52,441 --> 00:21:55,096 In one message, she talks, "I could kill this patient." 316 00:22:00,667 --> 00:22:02,146 - This is going to be our best chance 317 00:22:02,233 --> 00:22:03,539 of getting a confession in this case. 318 00:22:24,734 --> 00:22:27,041 - It's all down to Reta Mays at this point, 319 00:22:27,128 --> 00:22:28,869 and we're willing 320 00:22:28,999 --> 00:22:31,393 to do everything we can to prove this case. 25407

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