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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,741 --> 00:00:04,569 - Hundreds of bank robberies you do in a career. 2 00:00:04,613 --> 00:00:05,744 This one felt different from the minute I got there. 3 00:00:09,531 --> 00:00:12,142 This thing was so confusing right from the start. 4 00:00:12,229 --> 00:00:14,101 He's saying, I'm a pizza delivery driver. 5 00:00:16,929 --> 00:00:19,932 - A group of Black men shot at me and put a bomb on me 6 00:00:20,063 --> 00:00:21,673 and told me to rob the bank. 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:23,284 - Uh, the guy just walked out with, uh, I don't know 8 00:00:23,327 --> 00:00:24,763 how much cash in the bag. 9 00:00:24,894 --> 00:00:27,027 He had a bomb or something wrapped around his neck. 10 00:00:27,114 --> 00:00:28,637 - You don't know if he's a hostage. 11 00:00:28,724 --> 00:00:30,552 You don't know if he's a cooperator. 12 00:00:32,162 --> 00:00:33,816 - Typically, with bank robberies, 13 00:00:33,903 --> 00:00:37,341 you'll see a bomb hoax, never a real device. 14 00:00:39,691 --> 00:00:42,216 - You hear this faint beep, beep, beep. 15 00:00:44,435 --> 00:00:47,134 He turned just a little bit on the ground, and then-- 16 00:00:50,224 --> 00:00:53,401 - In the FBI, we make a lot of headlines. 17 00:00:56,404 --> 00:00:57,666 Drug busts, 18 00:00:57,753 --> 00:01:00,756 mob stings, 19 00:01:00,843 --> 00:01:02,497 terrorist takedowns. 20 00:01:02,584 --> 00:01:04,673 - Get down! Get down! 21 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,892 - We understand why people want to tell stories about us. 22 00:01:06,936 --> 00:01:07,893 - Mark it. 23 00:01:07,937 --> 00:01:09,547 - Freeze! - FBI. 24 00:01:09,591 --> 00:01:11,245 - FBI! - Action! 25 00:01:11,332 --> 00:01:13,116 - But they don't know the half of it. 26 00:01:14,987 --> 00:01:17,033 What really goes down, 27 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,079 we save that for each other 28 00:01:19,166 --> 00:01:21,342 when we're talking agent-to-agent. 29 00:01:24,301 --> 00:01:27,261 This is "FBI True." 30 00:01:42,232 --> 00:01:43,494 - Hey, guys. - Kristy, how are you? 31 00:01:43,581 --> 00:01:44,626 - Jerry, how you doing? Nice to see you. 32 00:01:44,713 --> 00:01:46,193 - Nice to see you. 33 00:01:46,323 --> 00:01:49,848 - Jerry Clark spent 27 years in law enforcement, 34 00:01:49,935 --> 00:01:54,765 working for NCIS and the DEA before joining the FBI. 35 00:01:54,896 --> 00:01:56,812 He mostly worked Violent Crime, 36 00:01:56,942 --> 00:01:59,249 investigating hundreds of bank robberies. 37 00:01:59,336 --> 00:02:01,556 - Andrew. - Hey, good to see you. 38 00:02:01,686 --> 00:02:05,647 - Andrew Wilson is a 26-year veteran of the FBI. 39 00:02:05,734 --> 00:02:09,216 He worked Counterterrorism before becoming the supervisor 40 00:02:09,259 --> 00:02:11,566 of the resident agency in Erie, Pennsylvania. 41 00:02:11,696 --> 00:02:13,176 - Oh, thank you. 42 00:02:14,482 --> 00:02:17,920 It's a hot summer, 2003, August. 43 00:02:18,007 --> 00:02:20,009 What's happening in your life, Jerry? 44 00:02:20,140 --> 00:02:24,883 - Kristy Kottis is a 24-year veteran of the FBI. 45 00:02:24,970 --> 00:02:28,452 She worked Gangs, Crimes Against Children, 46 00:02:28,539 --> 00:02:31,238 as well as Human and Drug Trafficking. 47 00:02:31,325 --> 00:02:34,980 - It's an average day working at the FBI. 48 00:02:35,024 --> 00:02:37,505 Get a call, bank robbery up at Peach Street 49 00:02:37,591 --> 00:02:39,768 in Erie, Pennsylvania, PNC Bank. 50 00:02:45,817 --> 00:02:46,949 - This one sounded a little different 51 00:02:46,992 --> 00:02:48,429 right out of the chute. 52 00:02:48,516 --> 00:02:50,257 We were getting reports that the robber 53 00:02:50,344 --> 00:02:52,868 stood in line for a second to rob the bank. 54 00:02:52,954 --> 00:02:54,216 You don't normally see that. 55 00:02:57,394 --> 00:02:59,701 So he went around a couple people 56 00:02:59,788 --> 00:03:01,790 and handed a note to the teller. 57 00:03:11,278 --> 00:03:13,323 While she's reading the note, 58 00:03:13,410 --> 00:03:15,630 he reaches in the teller counter basket 59 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,546 and pulls out a lollipop and starts sucking on it. 60 00:03:20,591 --> 00:03:23,507 And the note said, "This is a bank robbery. 61 00:03:23,594 --> 00:03:27,642 I need $250,000 in cash." 62 00:03:27,728 --> 00:03:31,298 And the teller said to him, listen, that's a lot of money 63 00:03:31,385 --> 00:03:34,997 and our bank manager is at lunch. 64 00:03:35,127 --> 00:03:36,868 You're gonna have to come back. 65 00:03:36,954 --> 00:03:39,480 Well, I'm robbing the bank. I can't come back. 66 00:03:39,567 --> 00:03:45,050 So instead they filled a bag with $8,207. 67 00:03:45,137 --> 00:03:49,272 So he was well short of the money he went in for. 68 00:03:49,359 --> 00:03:52,144 And he walked out swinging the bag with the cane, 69 00:03:52,232 --> 00:03:55,452 just as casual as could be. 70 00:03:55,539 --> 00:03:57,933 We had great detail from an individual 71 00:03:58,063 --> 00:04:00,501 in the bank who was talking to 911. 72 00:04:00,588 --> 00:04:02,590 He's saying, hey, I'm watching this guy. 73 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,374 He's got something under his shirt, a bomb or something. 74 00:04:04,461 --> 00:04:05,462 - Oh, wow. 75 00:04:13,253 --> 00:04:15,777 - And he said he got in his vehicle, 76 00:04:15,864 --> 00:04:18,779 and he only drove a short distance. 77 00:04:18,822 --> 00:04:21,913 He stopped at a McDonald's, and he's in the flowerbed. 78 00:04:22,043 --> 00:04:24,438 He's in there turning over rocks. 79 00:04:24,525 --> 00:04:26,831 And then he obtains something from underneath one 80 00:04:26,918 --> 00:04:29,660 of the rocks, and he gets back in his vehicle, 81 00:04:29,704 --> 00:04:33,403 pulls through a lane to an Eyeglass World parking lot. 82 00:04:35,536 --> 00:04:38,147 He had only got a few hundred yards. 83 00:04:38,278 --> 00:04:41,193 Pennsylvania State Police identified the car. 84 00:04:41,324 --> 00:04:42,804 They do a felony car stop. 85 00:04:56,992 --> 00:05:00,256 So the trooper, after handcuffing him, 86 00:05:00,343 --> 00:05:03,085 decides he's gonna slice open the shirt, 87 00:05:03,172 --> 00:05:06,001 pull it back, and take a look at the device. 88 00:05:06,131 --> 00:05:10,527 He takes a look and thought, boy, that looks awful real. 89 00:05:15,315 --> 00:05:16,881 - Typically you work bank robberies, 90 00:05:16,968 --> 00:05:20,015 you'll see a bomb hoax where it'll be 91 00:05:20,102 --> 00:05:23,540 road flares taped together or a cardboard box 92 00:05:23,627 --> 00:05:24,976 with wires sticking out. 93 00:05:25,063 --> 00:05:26,761 It's never a real device. 94 00:05:32,897 --> 00:05:38,642 - So when I roll up, I see an individual handcuffed, 95 00:05:38,729 --> 00:05:42,254 talking to the Pennsylvania State Police. 96 00:05:42,342 --> 00:05:44,822 It immediately felt different. 97 00:05:44,866 --> 00:05:46,824 Hundreds of bank robberies you do in a career. 98 00:05:46,868 --> 00:05:49,174 This one felt different from the minute I got there. 99 00:05:52,917 --> 00:05:54,876 - So the guy's sitting on the ground. 100 00:05:54,963 --> 00:05:57,008 Supposedly he has a bomb attached to him? 101 00:05:57,095 --> 00:06:00,142 - Exactly, and under his shirt I could see the protrusion, 102 00:06:00,229 --> 00:06:02,100 so he definitely had something under there. 103 00:06:02,187 --> 00:06:04,494 Whether it was real or not, we didn't know. 104 00:06:04,581 --> 00:06:08,280 We blocked off both ends of Peach Street, 105 00:06:08,368 --> 00:06:10,239 which is a very, very busy road. 106 00:06:14,156 --> 00:06:18,595 We set up a perimeter and we called the Bomb Squad, 107 00:06:18,726 --> 00:06:20,641 and the Bomb Squad was en route. 108 00:06:20,728 --> 00:06:23,600 - And you have the local news station setting up live 109 00:06:23,687 --> 00:06:26,168 as he's sitting there in handcuffs. 110 00:06:32,740 --> 00:06:35,917 - He has two Pennsylvania State Police troopers 111 00:06:36,004 --> 00:06:38,876 leaning over their vehicles, guns drawn, 112 00:06:39,007 --> 00:06:40,748 in a conversation with him. 113 00:06:40,835 --> 00:06:43,620 And now I can start to hear the conversation. 114 00:06:43,707 --> 00:06:46,580 They're asking him how he got here, what's going on. 115 00:06:46,667 --> 00:06:48,756 He's saying, my name is Brian Wells. 116 00:06:50,845 --> 00:06:54,718 He said, I work at Mama Mia's Pizzeria in Erie. 117 00:06:58,983 --> 00:07:00,724 - Is he crying or saying help me? 118 00:07:00,811 --> 00:07:03,901 - Not really. He was asking for a cigarette. 119 00:07:04,032 --> 00:07:05,729 He was saying the bomb was heavy. 120 00:07:05,816 --> 00:07:08,776 He was asking about us calling his boss. 121 00:07:12,083 --> 00:07:16,000 - He said that he was told to deliver two pizzas 122 00:07:16,087 --> 00:07:20,309 to a tower site, 8645 Peach Street, 123 00:07:20,396 --> 00:07:22,572 and that when he got there, 124 00:07:22,703 --> 00:07:25,270 he's saying a group of Black men shot at me 125 00:07:25,357 --> 00:07:28,273 and put this thing on me and told me to rob the bank. 126 00:07:28,317 --> 00:07:31,102 It bothered me that an individual 127 00:07:31,233 --> 00:07:34,062 would drive that far down 128 00:07:34,149 --> 00:07:38,893 into this wooded tower site area that nobody goes to, 129 00:07:38,980 --> 00:07:41,722 and him feeling comfortable enough to do that. 130 00:07:41,808 --> 00:07:44,507 One of the questions to him was, hey, 131 00:07:44,551 --> 00:07:46,422 can you describe these people? 132 00:07:46,509 --> 00:07:48,598 And he really couldn't. 133 00:07:48,685 --> 00:07:50,861 Your mind is going, oh, my gosh, 134 00:07:50,948 --> 00:07:54,256 he can't describe people that just put this on him? 135 00:07:54,343 --> 00:07:56,345 You don't know if he's a hostage. 136 00:07:56,476 --> 00:07:58,042 You don't know if he's a cooperator. 137 00:07:58,129 --> 00:07:59,696 Something was off. 138 00:08:05,136 --> 00:08:06,747 - So we've called the bomb techs. 139 00:08:06,877 --> 00:08:08,618 They're rolling up and suiting up. 140 00:08:08,705 --> 00:08:10,968 What's happening while they're doing that? 141 00:08:11,099 --> 00:08:12,579 - We're trying to figure out 142 00:08:12,666 --> 00:08:14,058 when they're gonna make an approach. 143 00:08:14,145 --> 00:08:15,495 That was the only thing in my mind. 144 00:08:15,538 --> 00:08:16,931 Hey, let's make this approach. 145 00:08:17,061 --> 00:08:18,802 Let's find out it's... 146 00:08:18,889 --> 00:08:20,108 - What do we have? - Not a real device... 147 00:08:20,151 --> 00:08:21,675 - Right. - And let's end this thing. 148 00:08:29,030 --> 00:08:34,818 - Right before 3:18, you hear this faint beep, beep, beep. 149 00:08:34,861 --> 00:08:38,039 And everybody who was close enough to hear that thought, 150 00:08:38,126 --> 00:08:39,996 what the heck is that? 151 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,659 - And I could see the individual handcuffed 152 00:08:49,790 --> 00:08:52,619 was very sort of taken back by it himself. 153 00:08:55,622 --> 00:08:58,799 - He turned just a little bit on the ground, and then-- 154 00:09:15,859 --> 00:09:17,382 - Anybody who was there on scene 155 00:09:17,426 --> 00:09:19,733 will always remember it for the rest of their life. 156 00:09:19,820 --> 00:09:22,692 I watched Mr. Wells. He fell back. 157 00:09:22,823 --> 00:09:27,262 I watched his chest go down, and it never came back up. 158 00:09:32,006 --> 00:09:35,226 You could feel the percussion from it. 159 00:09:35,357 --> 00:09:38,403 And then you start hearing items flying 160 00:09:38,490 --> 00:09:41,406 and pieces in the air landing on the concrete 161 00:09:41,450 --> 00:09:43,017 and making noise. 162 00:09:43,104 --> 00:09:46,194 And it just--you just couldn't believe what you just saw. 163 00:09:48,065 --> 00:09:49,719 Immediately, you know, everyone wants 164 00:09:49,806 --> 00:09:51,112 to run up and take a look. 165 00:09:51,199 --> 00:09:55,159 And then somebody had the--the wits to say, 166 00:09:55,246 --> 00:09:56,639 hey, secondary, secondary. 167 00:09:56,770 --> 00:09:59,033 Everybody get back, get back. 168 00:09:59,163 --> 00:10:02,863 Uh, because bomb builders love to hurt first responders. 169 00:10:05,605 --> 00:10:07,476 We didn't know if it was a terrorism event, 170 00:10:07,607 --> 00:10:10,522 if it was international, if it was gonna happen again 171 00:10:10,610 --> 00:10:13,264 in ten minutes or two weeks. 172 00:10:13,351 --> 00:10:15,527 - He's lying there, obviously deceased. 173 00:10:15,615 --> 00:10:17,094 We're worried about a secondary. 174 00:10:17,225 --> 00:10:18,748 What are--I mean, where do we go now? 175 00:10:18,835 --> 00:10:21,664 - We had bomb techs make the approach 176 00:10:21,751 --> 00:10:24,188 and start looking to see exactly what we had. 177 00:10:43,077 --> 00:10:45,775 The device had a collar. It was like a handcuff. 178 00:10:49,997 --> 00:10:53,870 The collar held a small box under his chin 179 00:10:53,957 --> 00:10:57,569 that had four keyholes for keys to unlock the collar. 180 00:10:57,657 --> 00:11:00,790 And then the box that held below 181 00:11:00,921 --> 00:11:05,099 that other box was actually in pieces all over Peach Street. 182 00:11:05,186 --> 00:11:07,623 - There were components that were identified, 183 00:11:07,710 --> 00:11:09,669 such as kitchen timers. 184 00:11:13,368 --> 00:11:15,587 - So what are your first steps in the investigation? 185 00:11:15,675 --> 00:11:17,067 - So a lot going on. 186 00:11:17,154 --> 00:11:18,895 Bank, we have people. 187 00:11:18,982 --> 00:11:20,723 Pizza shop, we have people. 188 00:11:20,767 --> 00:11:23,465 Tower site, we have people. 189 00:11:23,552 --> 00:11:25,728 We had determined that the pizzas 190 00:11:25,815 --> 00:11:28,122 were ordered from a pay phone 191 00:11:28,209 --> 00:11:31,429 at the Shell station on 8228 Peach Street. 192 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,131 - What did you find in Brian's car? 193 00:11:37,261 --> 00:11:39,742 - Well, we found the cane that he had taken 194 00:11:39,786 --> 00:11:41,048 when he went into the bank. 195 00:11:44,007 --> 00:11:46,706 The cane is actually a functioning shotgun 196 00:11:46,793 --> 00:11:49,186 and would work if he would pull the trigger. 197 00:11:51,449 --> 00:11:53,930 - Why did he have that? - So this was a mystery, right? 198 00:11:54,017 --> 00:11:56,846 You are a bank hostage with a bomb around your neck, 199 00:11:56,933 --> 00:11:59,196 but they still give you a gun. 200 00:11:59,327 --> 00:12:01,285 So that was incongruent. How is this possible? 201 00:12:01,372 --> 00:12:02,547 Why would you give the guy a gun? 202 00:12:06,421 --> 00:12:08,379 - What else did you find in Brian's car? 203 00:12:08,466 --> 00:12:12,949 - We have notes that we recovered from Mr. Wells's car, 204 00:12:13,036 --> 00:12:16,648 indicating that he was to go on basically a scavenger hunt 205 00:12:16,736 --> 00:12:19,869 to retrieve keys at each site 206 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,871 to unlock the collar around his neck. 207 00:12:21,958 --> 00:12:24,091 There were also notes that the teller had, 208 00:12:24,178 --> 00:12:28,530 but he had notes specifically designed for him. 209 00:12:28,617 --> 00:12:30,010 - These are the notes that--from the car? 210 00:12:30,097 --> 00:12:32,099 - These are actually some of the notes from the car. 211 00:12:32,229 --> 00:12:33,578 - Tell me a little bit what these notes say. 212 00:12:33,622 --> 00:12:36,625 - So the one that I have here, 213 00:12:36,756 --> 00:12:38,235 this was in Mr. Wells's vehicle. 214 00:12:38,322 --> 00:12:39,628 - Okay. 215 00:12:39,759 --> 00:12:41,543 - And this was written specifically to him. 216 00:12:41,630 --> 00:12:45,982 Bomb hostage is what they call him. 217 00:12:46,069 --> 00:12:48,463 There's so much in here, but it's basically 218 00:12:48,593 --> 00:12:50,073 telling him, "Do not delay. 219 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,337 Act now, think later, or you will die." 220 00:12:53,424 --> 00:12:56,427 And there's even a little drawing that indicated 221 00:12:56,471 --> 00:12:58,342 he needs to go to the McDonald's site. 222 00:12:58,429 --> 00:13:01,563 It says, get out of the car near the small sign 223 00:13:01,650 --> 00:13:03,913 that says "24 hours open." 224 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,133 Go in the flowerbed, and there's 225 00:13:06,263 --> 00:13:09,179 a sign underneath a rock that's taped to the bottom. 226 00:13:11,878 --> 00:13:14,445 So when Mr. Wells left the bank, 227 00:13:14,532 --> 00:13:18,710 immediately he went to that flower bed in the McDonald's. 228 00:13:18,798 --> 00:13:21,452 And there was a note to the police saying, 229 00:13:21,539 --> 00:13:23,541 you're not as smart as me. 230 00:13:23,628 --> 00:13:25,195 - So it says, "If bomb hostage is delayed 231 00:13:25,239 --> 00:13:26,806 "for more than 10 minutes, 232 00:13:26,893 --> 00:13:29,417 "he will not have enough time to continue. 233 00:13:29,504 --> 00:13:33,421 "Our team has spent combined 7 1/2 years in prison 234 00:13:33,508 --> 00:13:35,031 "perfecting this plan. 235 00:13:35,162 --> 00:13:37,468 "Do not think that you can outsmart us 236 00:13:37,599 --> 00:13:39,253 "in less than one hour. 237 00:13:39,340 --> 00:13:43,213 "Save bomb hostage and people targeted for retaliation 238 00:13:43,257 --> 00:13:45,128 by standing down." 239 00:13:45,259 --> 00:13:48,349 - The word "retaliate," in nine pages of notes, 240 00:13:48,436 --> 00:13:49,959 was used 51 times. 241 00:13:58,881 --> 00:14:00,883 So when you start to think about that 242 00:14:00,970 --> 00:14:04,408 on the psychological side, you're starting to think, 243 00:14:04,495 --> 00:14:06,454 man, somebody's obsessive. 244 00:14:06,541 --> 00:14:08,630 - When he was on the ground, did he ever say, 245 00:14:08,717 --> 00:14:11,328 I have instructions, or I was supposed to follow this? 246 00:14:11,415 --> 00:14:13,200 He never mentions this situation? 247 00:14:13,287 --> 00:14:16,638 - He never mentions the scavenger hunt or these notes, 248 00:14:16,725 --> 00:14:19,206 so we don't know that until we open his vehicle 249 00:14:19,293 --> 00:14:21,643 and find the notes in there. 250 00:14:21,730 --> 00:14:24,646 What we needed to do next was follow the scavenger hunt 251 00:14:24,733 --> 00:14:26,866 that Mr. Wells was supposed to do 252 00:14:26,953 --> 00:14:28,911 but couldn't because he's deceased, 253 00:14:28,998 --> 00:14:31,000 and figure out what was at each site. 254 00:14:33,089 --> 00:14:35,918 But that's a very dangerous situation, right? 255 00:14:36,005 --> 00:14:37,789 Because we don't know what they're going 256 00:14:37,877 --> 00:14:40,401 to find when they get there. 257 00:14:40,488 --> 00:14:44,144 And that could be a, you know, a tripwire or sniper 258 00:14:44,231 --> 00:14:46,711 or some sort of situation where they're going 259 00:14:46,842 --> 00:14:48,235 to hurt other law enforcement. 260 00:14:48,322 --> 00:14:50,672 So we had to do those very carefully. 261 00:14:50,759 --> 00:14:53,327 - And where was he supposed to go next? 262 00:14:53,414 --> 00:14:57,809 - He actually was to go through the back of the Eyeglass World, 263 00:14:57,940 --> 00:15:01,465 which he did, and that's where he was a felony car stop. 264 00:15:01,552 --> 00:15:03,554 But he was to go to a fire hydrant 265 00:15:03,641 --> 00:15:07,123 in front of that Eyeglass World and tie 266 00:15:07,210 --> 00:15:10,344 an orange ribbon indicating that he had 267 00:15:10,474 --> 00:15:11,693 received the money from the bank. 268 00:15:11,823 --> 00:15:13,521 He never got that far. 269 00:15:13,608 --> 00:15:16,567 He then was to get back in the vehicle, 270 00:15:16,611 --> 00:15:18,265 head southbound on Peach Street, 271 00:15:18,395 --> 00:15:23,792 get on a major I-90 interstate, get off on I-79, 272 00:15:23,835 --> 00:15:26,490 go northbound, and get off at a place 273 00:15:26,577 --> 00:15:29,406 where he was to receive another note. 274 00:15:29,537 --> 00:15:32,279 When we went to the site, the first site 275 00:15:32,409 --> 00:15:35,630 we went to in the woods, as directed, went in. 276 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,240 There was an orange piece of tape 277 00:15:37,327 --> 00:15:41,418 that was tied to a tree that was tied to a Folgers 278 00:15:41,505 --> 00:15:44,508 coffee jar with a twist-off lid, 279 00:15:44,595 --> 00:15:47,381 and inside that was another note. 280 00:15:47,424 --> 00:15:51,863 What was missing at that site was a key. 281 00:15:51,994 --> 00:15:55,389 After we received the note in the Folgers jar, 282 00:15:55,476 --> 00:15:59,697 it indicated, get back on the highway interchange road 283 00:15:59,741 --> 00:16:03,701 heading southbound and to go into a sign in the woods 284 00:16:03,745 --> 00:16:05,965 that said McKean Township. 285 00:16:06,095 --> 00:16:07,444 Unbelievable. 286 00:16:07,531 --> 00:16:10,404 We got there, went into the woods. 287 00:16:10,491 --> 00:16:14,147 Orange piece of tape, just like at the first site. 288 00:16:14,234 --> 00:16:17,846 But it was torn, and there was nothing there. 289 00:16:17,889 --> 00:16:21,197 So we don't know if that was the last site 290 00:16:21,284 --> 00:16:23,330 or there would have been another note, 291 00:16:23,460 --> 00:16:24,984 but somebody definitely got there before us. 292 00:16:28,074 --> 00:16:31,642 And any of the sites that we went to from then on, 293 00:16:31,686 --> 00:16:33,340 no keys were ever found. 294 00:16:33,427 --> 00:16:35,777 - Andrew, when you saw this, were you thinking, 295 00:16:35,864 --> 00:16:37,039 well, that poor bastard, 296 00:16:37,126 --> 00:16:38,214 of course he's not gonna get through this? 297 00:16:38,301 --> 00:16:39,824 - You could barely read all the notes, 298 00:16:39,868 --> 00:16:42,566 you know, in an hour and figure out what to do, 299 00:16:42,653 --> 00:16:45,482 let alone actually go to the places. 300 00:16:45,569 --> 00:16:49,008 There's no way this guy was going to get the keys 301 00:16:49,138 --> 00:16:52,272 to free the device from himself. 302 00:16:52,359 --> 00:16:54,622 - So at this point, we had enough probable cause 303 00:16:54,665 --> 00:16:58,147 to get a search warrant to go into Mr. Wells's house. 304 00:16:58,234 --> 00:17:01,237 He lived in a real small apartment 305 00:17:01,324 --> 00:17:03,544 behind someone's residence. 306 00:17:06,547 --> 00:17:08,330 He lived alone. 307 00:17:08,462 --> 00:17:12,770 He wasn't married and didn't have any children. 308 00:17:12,857 --> 00:17:16,425 In the middle of the night, we had to go to the judge's house 309 00:17:16,470 --> 00:17:18,863 to have her sign the warrant. 310 00:17:18,950 --> 00:17:24,130 At 1:36 in the morning, we finally make entry. 311 00:17:24,260 --> 00:17:27,481 Inside, we were surprised to see that 312 00:17:27,568 --> 00:17:31,528 there was not much in there, not a lot of belongings. 313 00:17:31,615 --> 00:17:35,271 The really key piece that we found in there 314 00:17:35,358 --> 00:17:39,188 was not related to the device or the robbery, 315 00:17:39,275 --> 00:17:41,756 but it turns out to be vitally important. 316 00:17:41,886 --> 00:17:44,715 And that's a notebook on his desk 317 00:17:44,759 --> 00:17:46,587 in the middle of his living room, 318 00:17:46,674 --> 00:17:49,633 and it listed every person that he knew 319 00:17:49,764 --> 00:17:51,418 and their phone number. 320 00:17:51,505 --> 00:17:53,159 He did not know a lot of people, 321 00:17:53,246 --> 00:17:56,118 because it could barely fill the page. 322 00:17:56,162 --> 00:17:59,774 But the two people that he knew that were listed 323 00:17:59,861 --> 00:18:01,384 in his own handwriting, 324 00:18:01,471 --> 00:18:05,301 whose names his family didn't recognize, 325 00:18:05,388 --> 00:18:09,610 were Jessica and Angie, and their phone numbers. 326 00:18:09,740 --> 00:18:13,527 And both those phone numbers we did a subscriber check for, 327 00:18:13,614 --> 00:18:16,530 and determined that they had criminal histories 328 00:18:16,573 --> 00:18:18,271 for prostitution. 329 00:18:18,358 --> 00:18:22,362 - When we approach these ladies and ask them about Brian Wells, 330 00:18:22,449 --> 00:18:24,538 are they shocked that this happened? 331 00:18:24,625 --> 00:18:25,930 - They weren't. 332 00:18:26,017 --> 00:18:27,932 Something amiss here, 333 00:18:28,019 --> 00:18:31,284 that neither of them seemed overly shocked about it. 334 00:18:31,371 --> 00:18:37,116 Angie has a boyfriend named Jimmy, African American guy. 335 00:18:37,246 --> 00:18:39,814 And after we did some digging, 336 00:18:39,944 --> 00:18:42,033 we determined he was in the military 337 00:18:42,121 --> 00:18:44,035 and he worked with explosives. 338 00:18:44,123 --> 00:18:47,735 He actually worked at a position at a company in Erie, 339 00:18:47,822 --> 00:18:51,130 would close the door sometimes at his job, 340 00:18:51,217 --> 00:18:53,741 and he'd say, don't bother me. I'm working on something. 341 00:18:53,828 --> 00:18:56,178 We're immediately thinking, oh, my God, he's building a bomb. 342 00:18:56,265 --> 00:18:57,745 It's a manufacturing plant. 343 00:18:57,832 --> 00:18:59,007 It's got all the tools he needs. 344 00:18:59,050 --> 00:19:00,051 He could make the device. 345 00:19:00,182 --> 00:19:01,052 - You're probably thinking, finally, 346 00:19:01,140 --> 00:19:02,489 we got a break in the case. 347 00:19:02,576 --> 00:19:04,665 Brian says he's kidnapped by Black guys. 348 00:19:04,795 --> 00:19:06,971 You're talking to these ladies whose name are in his book. 349 00:19:07,102 --> 00:19:08,886 - Yes. 350 00:19:08,973 --> 00:19:11,324 Perfectly fit the scenario, the conceptualization 351 00:19:11,367 --> 00:19:12,934 of what happened. 352 00:19:13,021 --> 00:19:15,371 But it became clear that Jimmy didn't know Brian Wells 353 00:19:15,458 --> 00:19:17,373 and had no connection to the case. 354 00:19:20,376 --> 00:19:23,292 Then, after interviewing people at the pizza shop, 355 00:19:23,379 --> 00:19:25,947 we determined that the pizza shop 356 00:19:26,034 --> 00:19:29,385 had an employee, Greg, that was fired 357 00:19:29,472 --> 00:19:32,780 for stealing from the cash register. 358 00:19:32,823 --> 00:19:35,261 And so he becomes interesting to us, 359 00:19:35,391 --> 00:19:38,655 because as he's walking out the door of being fired, 360 00:19:38,786 --> 00:19:42,006 he said, you're gonna pay for this, to the owner. 361 00:19:42,093 --> 00:19:44,748 So now we think he's retaliating against the owner 362 00:19:44,879 --> 00:19:46,315 for being fired. 363 00:19:46,402 --> 00:19:49,536 When we do interview him, we determine 364 00:19:49,623 --> 00:19:52,191 that he was across the street at the time the bank 365 00:19:52,321 --> 00:19:54,889 was being robbed, at a PetSmart, 366 00:19:54,976 --> 00:19:57,283 saying he was filling out a job application. 367 00:19:57,413 --> 00:19:59,763 It was like, can this be any more of a coincidence, 368 00:19:59,850 --> 00:20:02,462 and how many coincidences can we have in this thing? 369 00:20:02,505 --> 00:20:05,465 So we were interviewing Brian Wells's co-workers 370 00:20:05,595 --> 00:20:08,207 at the pizza shop, and Robert Pinetti 371 00:20:08,294 --> 00:20:09,425 was one of them. 372 00:20:13,037 --> 00:20:14,517 Pinetti said, I've got some work. 373 00:20:14,604 --> 00:20:16,345 I'm busy on shift. 374 00:20:16,476 --> 00:20:18,521 Can you come back on Monday, and I'll talk to you then? 375 00:20:18,608 --> 00:20:22,438 Well, of course, as it goes, Monday never happened, 376 00:20:22,482 --> 00:20:25,485 because Pinetti dies on Sunday. 377 00:20:25,572 --> 00:20:26,660 - What? 378 00:20:29,445 --> 00:20:32,579 - Now you have two dead pizza delivery guys 379 00:20:32,666 --> 00:20:34,189 from the same restaurant. 380 00:20:36,713 --> 00:20:39,890 - Once the tox came back, we knew it was an overdose. 381 00:20:40,021 --> 00:20:42,371 We knew that it was Xanax and methadone combination, 382 00:20:42,458 --> 00:20:45,461 which was lethal synergistically. 383 00:20:45,548 --> 00:20:47,681 - Was he known to be a heroin addict, or-- 384 00:20:47,768 --> 00:20:49,030 - No. 385 00:20:49,117 --> 00:20:51,380 So whoever gave that to him 386 00:20:51,467 --> 00:20:52,816 intentionally wanted him dead. 387 00:20:52,947 --> 00:20:54,470 - Wow. 388 00:20:54,557 --> 00:20:56,385 What makes you think he even knew anything? 389 00:20:56,516 --> 00:20:59,693 - The fact that he was so nervous. 390 00:20:59,780 --> 00:21:03,044 Robert Pinetti was actually going to his sister 391 00:21:03,131 --> 00:21:06,352 looking for a gun that she had. 392 00:21:06,395 --> 00:21:09,572 He was acting very suspicious and strange. 393 00:21:09,659 --> 00:21:12,836 But unfortunately, it was one of the most 394 00:21:12,923 --> 00:21:15,491 difficult parts for me, personally. 395 00:21:15,535 --> 00:21:18,320 Whatever he knew was now gone. 396 00:21:21,323 --> 00:21:25,240 So now we're totally in the dark here, 397 00:21:25,327 --> 00:21:27,198 trying to figure out how this is all related. 398 00:21:27,286 --> 00:21:28,765 Is Brian a hostage? 399 00:21:28,852 --> 00:21:30,419 Is he a cooperator? 400 00:21:30,506 --> 00:21:31,551 Are there other people involved? 401 00:21:31,638 --> 00:21:33,727 Is this a bigger conspiracy? 402 00:21:33,857 --> 00:21:35,816 Is it an outside force? 403 00:21:35,946 --> 00:21:38,035 You know, all these different aspects that are out there. 404 00:21:40,516 --> 00:21:43,519 Three weeks after the whole bombing incident, 405 00:21:43,606 --> 00:21:47,654 Pennsylvania State Police receive a call, and it's a guy. 406 00:21:47,741 --> 00:21:50,221 He describes himself as Bill Rothstein, 407 00:21:50,309 --> 00:21:54,095 and he said that there's a dead body 408 00:21:54,182 --> 00:21:56,402 in the freezer of his garage. 409 00:22:11,068 --> 00:22:14,028 - Next time on "FBI True"... 410 00:22:14,115 --> 00:22:16,987 - Bill Rothstein said Marjorie Diehl-Armstrong 411 00:22:17,074 --> 00:22:19,425 killed her boyfriend, 412 00:22:19,512 --> 00:22:22,428 and that's why he's in the freezer. 413 00:22:22,558 --> 00:22:26,432 - Three dead bodies in three weeks, all in close proximity. 414 00:22:26,519 --> 00:22:27,911 What the hell is going on? 415 00:22:27,998 --> 00:22:29,348 - The tower site where Brian Wells 416 00:22:29,435 --> 00:22:32,916 delivers the pizzas is steps away 417 00:22:33,003 --> 00:22:34,570 from Bill Rothstein's driveway. 418 00:22:34,701 --> 00:22:35,919 - I helped her with it. 419 00:22:36,006 --> 00:22:38,052 I put it basically in my garage. 420 00:22:38,182 --> 00:22:40,576 She wanted it completely destroyed. 421 00:22:40,663 --> 00:22:42,665 - If you were from Erie, you knew the name 422 00:22:42,752 --> 00:22:44,275 Marjorie Diehl-Armstrong. 423 00:22:44,406 --> 00:22:46,669 She had a lot of death around her. 424 00:22:46,756 --> 00:22:50,673 - Rothstein should be charged with the murder of Brian Wells 425 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,371 and a lot of other charges. 426 00:22:52,458 --> 00:22:54,111 - You didn't shoot that guy, Marjorie? 427 00:22:54,198 --> 00:22:55,591 - It'll come out in court what happened, and you'll see. 33600

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