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- Hundreds of bank robberies
you do in a career.
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This one felt different
from the minute I got there.
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This thing was so confusing
right from the start.
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He's saying,
I'm a pizza delivery driver.
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- A group of Black men shot
at me and put a bomb on me
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and told me to rob the bank.
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- Uh, the guy just walked
out with, uh, I don't know
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how much cash in the bag.
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He had a bomb or something
wrapped around his neck.
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- You don't know
if he's a hostage.
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You don't know if
he's a cooperator.
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- Typically,
with bank robberies,
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you'll see a bomb hoax,
never a real device.
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- You hear this faint
beep, beep, beep.
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He turned just a little bit
on the ground, and then--
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- In the FBI, we make
a lot of headlines.
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Drug busts,
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mob stings,
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terrorist takedowns.
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- Get down! Get down!
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- We understand why people
want to tell stories about us.
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- Mark it.
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- Freeze!
- FBI.
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- FBI!
- Action!
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- But they don't know
the half of it.
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What really goes down,
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we save that for each other
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when we're talking
agent-to-agent.
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This is "FBI True."
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- Hey, guys.
- Kristy, how are you?
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- Jerry, how you doing?
Nice to see you.
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- Nice to see you.
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- Jerry Clark spent 27 years
in law enforcement,
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working for NCIS and the DEA
before joining the FBI.
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He mostly worked
Violent Crime,
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investigating hundreds
of bank robberies.
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- Andrew.
- Hey, good to see you.
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- Andrew Wilson is
a 26-year veteran of the FBI.
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He worked Counterterrorism
before becoming the supervisor
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of the resident agency
in Erie, Pennsylvania.
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- Oh, thank you.
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It's a hot summer,
2003, August.
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What's happening
in your life, Jerry?
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- Kristy Kottis is
a 24-year veteran of the FBI.
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She worked Gangs,
Crimes Against Children,
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as well as
Human and Drug Trafficking.
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- It's an average day
working at the FBI.
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Get a call,
bank robbery up at Peach Street
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in Erie, Pennsylvania,
PNC Bank.
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- This one sounded
a little different
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right out of the chute.
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We were getting reports that
the robber
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stood in line for a second
to rob the bank.
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You don't normally see that.
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So he went around
a couple people
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and handed a note
to the teller.
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While she's reading the note,
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he reaches in
the teller counter basket
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and pulls out a lollipop
and starts sucking on it.
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And the note said,
"This is a bank robbery.
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I need $250,000 in cash."
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And the teller said to him,
listen, that's a lot of money
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and our bank manager
is at lunch.
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You're gonna have to come back.
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Well, I'm robbing the bank.
I can't come back.
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So instead they filled
a bag with $8,207.
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So he was well short
of the money he went in for.
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And he walked out swinging
the bag with the cane,
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just as casual as could be.
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We had great detail
from an individual
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in the bank who
was talking to 911.
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He's saying, hey,
I'm watching this guy.
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He's got something under his
shirt, a bomb or something.
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- Oh, wow.
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- And he said he
got in his vehicle,
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and he only drove
a short distance.
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He stopped at a McDonald's,
and he's in the flowerbed.
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He's in there
turning over rocks.
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And then he obtains something
from underneath one
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of the rocks, and he
gets back in his vehicle,
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pulls through a lane to
an Eyeglass World parking lot.
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He had only got
a few hundred yards.
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Pennsylvania State Police
identified the car.
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They do a felony car stop.
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So the trooper,
after handcuffing him,
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decides he's gonna
slice open the shirt,
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pull it back, and take
a look at the device.
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He takes a look and thought,
boy, that looks awful real.
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- Typically
you work bank robberies,
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you'll see a bomb hoax
where it'll be
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road flares taped together
or a cardboard box
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with wires sticking out.
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It's never a real device.
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- So when I roll up, I see
an individual handcuffed,
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talking to the
Pennsylvania State Police.
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It immediately felt different.
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Hundreds of bank robberies
you do in a career.
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This one felt different
from the minute I got there.
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- So the guy's
sitting on the ground.
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Supposedly he has
a bomb attached to him?
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- Exactly, and under his shirt
I could see the protrusion,
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so he definitely had
something under there.
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Whether it was real or not,
we didn't know.
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We blocked off both ends
of Peach Street,
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which is a very,
very busy road.
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We set up a perimeter
and we called the Bomb Squad,
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and the Bomb Squad
was en route.
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- And you have the local
news station setting up live
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as he's sitting there
in handcuffs.
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- He has two Pennsylvania
State Police troopers
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leaning over their vehicles,
guns drawn,
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in a conversation with him.
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And now I can start
to hear the conversation.
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They're asking him how
he got here, what's going on.
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He's saying,
my name is Brian Wells.
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He said, I work at
Mama Mia's Pizzeria in Erie.
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- Is he crying
or saying help me?
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- Not really.
He was asking for a cigarette.
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He was saying
the bomb was heavy.
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He was asking about
us calling his boss.
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- He said that he was told
to deliver two pizzas
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to a tower site,
8645 Peach Street,
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and that when he got there,
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he's saying a group
of Black men shot at me
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and put this thing on me
and told me to rob the bank.
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It bothered me
that an individual
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would drive that far down
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into this wooded tower site
area that nobody goes to,
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and him feeling
comfortable enough to do that.
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One of the questions
to him was, hey,
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can you describe these people?
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And he really couldn't.
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Your mind is going,
oh, my gosh,
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he can't describe people
that just put this on him?
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You don't know
if he's a hostage.
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You don't know
if he's a cooperator.
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Something was off.
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- So we've called
the bomb techs.
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They're rolling up
and suiting up.
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What's happening
while they're doing that?
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- We're trying to figure out
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when they're gonna make
an approach.
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That was the only thing
in my mind.
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Hey, let's make this approach.
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Let's find out it's...
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- What do we have?
- Not a real device...
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- Right.
- And let's end this thing.
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- Right before 3:18, you hear
this faint beep, beep, beep.
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And everybody who was close
enough to hear that thought,
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what the heck is that?
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- And I could see
the individual handcuffed
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was very sort of
taken back by it himself.
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- He turned just a little bit
on the ground, and then--
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- Anybody who was
there on scene
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will always remember it
for the rest of their life.
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I watched Mr. Wells.
He fell back.
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I watched his chest go down,
and it never came back up.
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You could feel
the percussion from it.
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And then you start
hearing items flying
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and pieces in the air
landing on the concrete
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and making noise.
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And it just--you just couldn't
believe what you just saw.
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Immediately, you know,
everyone wants
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to run up and take a look.
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And then somebody had
the--the wits to say,
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hey, secondary, secondary.
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Everybody get back, get back.
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Uh, because bomb builders
love to hurt first responders.
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We didn't know
if it was a terrorism event,
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if it was international,
if it was gonna happen again
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in ten minutes or two weeks.
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- He's lying there,
obviously deceased.
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We're worried
about a secondary.
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What are--I mean,
where do we go now?
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- We had bomb techs
make the approach
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and start looking
to see exactly what we had.
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The device had a collar.
It was like a handcuff.
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The collar held a small
box under his chin
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that had four keyholes
for keys to unlock the collar.
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And then the box
that held below
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that other box was actually in
pieces all over Peach Street.
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- There were components
that were identified,
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such as kitchen timers.
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- So what are your first steps
in the investigation?
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- So a lot going on.
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Bank, we have people.
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Pizza shop, we have people.
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Tower site, we have people.
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We had determined
that the pizzas
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were ordered from a pay phone
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at the Shell station
on 8228 Peach Street.
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- What did you find
in Brian's car?
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- Well, we found the cane
that he had taken
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when he went into the bank.
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The cane is actually
a functioning shotgun
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and would work if he
would pull the trigger.
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- Why did he have that?
- So this was a mystery, right?
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You are a bank hostage
with a bomb around your neck,
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but they still give you a gun.
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So that was incongruent.
How is this possible?
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Why would you give
the guy a gun?
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- What else did you
find in Brian's car?
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- We have notes that we
recovered from Mr. Wells's car,
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indicating that he was to go
on basically a scavenger hunt
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to retrieve keys at each site
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to unlock the collar
around his neck.
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There were also notes
that the teller had,
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but he had notes specifically
designed for him.
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- These are the notes
that--from the car?
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- These are actually some
of the notes from the car.
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- Tell me a little bit
what these notes say.
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- So the one that I have here,
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this was
in Mr. Wells's vehicle.
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- Okay.
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- And this was written
specifically to him.
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Bomb hostage is
what they call him.
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There's so much in here,
but it's basically
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telling him, "Do not delay.
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Act now, think later,
or you will die."
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And there's even a little
drawing that indicated
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he needs to go
to the McDonald's site.
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It says, get out of the car
near the small sign
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that says "24 hours open."
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Go in the flowerbed,
and there's
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a sign underneath a rock
that's taped to the bottom.
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So when Mr. Wells
left the bank,
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immediately he went to that
flower bed in the McDonald's.
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And there was a note
to the police saying,
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you're not as smart as me.
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- So it says,
"If bomb hostage is delayed
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"for more than 10 minutes,
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"he will not have enough time
to continue.
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"Our team has spent
combined 7 1/2 years in prison
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"perfecting this plan.
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"Do not think that
you can outsmart us
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"in less than one hour.
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"Save bomb hostage and people
targeted for retaliation
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by standing down."
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- The word "retaliate,"
in nine pages of notes,
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was used 51 times.
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So when you start
to think about that
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on the psychological side,
you're starting to think,
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man, somebody's obsessive.
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- When he was on the ground,
did he ever say,
245
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I have instructions, or I
was supposed to follow this?
246
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He never mentions
this situation?
247
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- He never mentions the
scavenger hunt or these notes,
248
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so we don't know that
until we open his vehicle
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and find the notes in there.
250
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What we needed to do next
was follow the scavenger hunt
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that Mr. Wells was
supposed to do
252
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but couldn't
because he's deceased,
253
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and figure out
what was at each site.
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But that's a very
dangerous situation, right?
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Because we don't know
what they're going
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to find when they get there.
257
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And that could be a,
you know, a tripwire or sniper
258
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or some sort of situation
where they're going
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to hurt other law enforcement.
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So we had to do
those very carefully.
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- And where was he
supposed to go next?
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- He actually was to go through
the back of the Eyeglass World,
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which he did, and that's where
he was a felony car stop.
264
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But he was to go
to a fire hydrant
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in front of that
Eyeglass World and tie
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an orange ribbon indicating
that he had
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received the money
from the bank.
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He never got that far.
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He then was to get back
in the vehicle,
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head southbound
on Peach Street,
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get on a major I-90 interstate,
get off on I-79,
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go northbound,
and get off at a place
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where he was
to receive another note.
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When we went to the site,
the first site
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we went to in the woods,
as directed, went in.
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There was an orange
piece of tape
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that was tied to a tree
that was tied to a Folgers
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coffee jar
with a twist-off lid,
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and inside that
was another note.
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What was missing
at that site was a key.
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After we received the note
in the Folgers jar,
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it indicated, get back on
the highway interchange road
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heading southbound and to
go into a sign in the woods
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that said McKean Township.
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Unbelievable.
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We got there,
went into the woods.
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Orange piece of tape,
just like at the first site.
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But it was torn,
and there was nothing there.
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So we don't know if
that was the last site
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or there would have
been another note,
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but somebody definitely
got there before us.
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And any of the sites that
we went to from then on,
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no keys were ever found.
294
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- Andrew, when you saw this,
were you thinking,
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well, that poor bastard,
296
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of course he's not gonna
get through this?
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00:16:38,301 --> 00:16:39,824
- You could barely
read all the notes,
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you know, in an hour
and figure out what to do,
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let alone actually go
to the places.
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There's no way this guy was
going to get the keys
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to free the device
from himself.
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- So at this point,
we had enough probable cause
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to get a search warrant
to go into Mr. Wells's house.
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He lived in a real
small apartment
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behind someone's residence.
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He lived alone.
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He wasn't married
and didn't have any children.
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In the middle of the night, we
had to go to the judge's house
309
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to have her sign the warrant.
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At 1:36 in the morning,
we finally make entry.
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Inside, we were
surprised to see that
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there was not much in there,
not a lot of belongings.
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The really key piece
that we found in there
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was not related
to the device or the robbery,
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but it turns out
to be vitally important.
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And that's a notebook
on his desk
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in the middle
of his living room,
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and it listed every person
that he knew
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and their phone number.
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He did not know
a lot of people,
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00:17:53,246 --> 00:17:56,118
because it could
barely fill the page.
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But the two people that
he knew that were listed
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in his own handwriting,
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whose names his family
didn't recognize,
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were Jessica and Angie,
and their phone numbers.
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And both those phone numbers
we did a subscriber check for,
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and determined that
they had criminal histories
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for prostitution.
329
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- When we approach these ladies
and ask them about Brian Wells,
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are they shocked
that this happened?
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- They weren't.
332
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Something amiss here,
333
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that neither of them seemed
overly shocked about it.
334
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Angie has a boyfriend named
Jimmy, African American guy.
335
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And after we did some digging,
336
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we determined he was
in the military
337
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and he worked with explosives.
338
00:18:44,123 --> 00:18:47,735
He actually worked at a
position at a company in Erie,
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would close the door
sometimes at his job,
340
00:18:51,217 --> 00:18:53,741
and he'd say, don't bother me.
I'm working on something.
341
00:18:53,828 --> 00:18:56,178
We're immediately thinking, oh,
my God, he's building a bomb.
342
00:18:56,265 --> 00:18:57,745
It's a manufacturing plant.
343
00:18:57,832 --> 00:18:59,007
It's got all the
tools he needs.
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He could make the device.
345
00:19:00,182 --> 00:19:01,052
- You're probably
thinking, finally,
346
00:19:01,140 --> 00:19:02,489
we got a break in the case.
347
00:19:02,576 --> 00:19:04,665
Brian says he's kidnapped
by Black guys.
348
00:19:04,795 --> 00:19:06,971
You're talking to these ladies
whose name are in his book.
349
00:19:07,102 --> 00:19:08,886
- Yes.
350
00:19:08,973 --> 00:19:11,324
Perfectly fit the scenario,
the conceptualization
351
00:19:11,367 --> 00:19:12,934
of what happened.
352
00:19:13,021 --> 00:19:15,371
But it became clear that
Jimmy didn't know Brian Wells
353
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and had no connection
to the case.
354
00:19:20,376 --> 00:19:23,292
Then, after interviewing
people at the pizza shop,
355
00:19:23,379 --> 00:19:25,947
we determined that
the pizza shop
356
00:19:26,034 --> 00:19:29,385
had an employee, Greg,
that was fired
357
00:19:29,472 --> 00:19:32,780
for stealing
from the cash register.
358
00:19:32,823 --> 00:19:35,261
And so he becomes
interesting to us,
359
00:19:35,391 --> 00:19:38,655
because as he's walking
out the door of being fired,
360
00:19:38,786 --> 00:19:42,006
he said, you're gonna pay
for this, to the owner.
361
00:19:42,093 --> 00:19:44,748
So now we think he's
retaliating against the owner
362
00:19:44,879 --> 00:19:46,315
for being fired.
363
00:19:46,402 --> 00:19:49,536
When we do interview him,
we determine
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00:19:49,623 --> 00:19:52,191
that he was across the street
at the time the bank
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00:19:52,321 --> 00:19:54,889
was being robbed,
at a PetSmart,
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00:19:54,976 --> 00:19:57,283
saying he was filling out
a job application.
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It was like, can this be
any more of a coincidence,
368
00:19:59,850 --> 00:20:02,462
and how many coincidences
can we have in this thing?
369
00:20:02,505 --> 00:20:05,465
So we were interviewing
Brian Wells's co-workers
370
00:20:05,595 --> 00:20:08,207
at the pizza shop,
and Robert Pinetti
371
00:20:08,294 --> 00:20:09,425
was one of them.
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00:20:13,037 --> 00:20:14,517
Pinetti said,
I've got some work.
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00:20:14,604 --> 00:20:16,345
I'm busy on shift.
374
00:20:16,476 --> 00:20:18,521
Can you come back on Monday,
and I'll talk to you then?
375
00:20:18,608 --> 00:20:22,438
Well, of course, as it goes,
Monday never happened,
376
00:20:22,482 --> 00:20:25,485
because Pinetti dies on Sunday.
377
00:20:25,572 --> 00:20:26,660
- What?
378
00:20:29,445 --> 00:20:32,579
- Now you have two dead
pizza delivery guys
379
00:20:32,666 --> 00:20:34,189
from the same restaurant.
380
00:20:36,713 --> 00:20:39,890
- Once the tox came back,
we knew it was an overdose.
381
00:20:40,021 --> 00:20:42,371
We knew that it was Xanax
and methadone combination,
382
00:20:42,458 --> 00:20:45,461
which was lethal
synergistically.
383
00:20:45,548 --> 00:20:47,681
- Was he known to be
a heroin addict, or--
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00:20:47,768 --> 00:20:49,030
- No.
385
00:20:49,117 --> 00:20:51,380
So whoever gave that to him
386
00:20:51,467 --> 00:20:52,816
intentionally wanted him dead.
387
00:20:52,947 --> 00:20:54,470
- Wow.
388
00:20:54,557 --> 00:20:56,385
What makes you think
he even knew anything?
389
00:20:56,516 --> 00:20:59,693
- The fact that
he was so nervous.
390
00:20:59,780 --> 00:21:03,044
Robert Pinetti was actually
going to his sister
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00:21:03,131 --> 00:21:06,352
looking for a gun that she had.
392
00:21:06,395 --> 00:21:09,572
He was acting very suspicious
and strange.
393
00:21:09,659 --> 00:21:12,836
But unfortunately,
it was one of the most
394
00:21:12,923 --> 00:21:15,491
difficult parts
for me, personally.
395
00:21:15,535 --> 00:21:18,320
Whatever he knew was now gone.
396
00:21:21,323 --> 00:21:25,240
So now we're totally
in the dark here,
397
00:21:25,327 --> 00:21:27,198
trying to figure out
how this is all related.
398
00:21:27,286 --> 00:21:28,765
Is Brian a hostage?
399
00:21:28,852 --> 00:21:30,419
Is he a cooperator?
400
00:21:30,506 --> 00:21:31,551
Are there
other people involved?
401
00:21:31,638 --> 00:21:33,727
Is this a bigger conspiracy?
402
00:21:33,857 --> 00:21:35,816
Is it an outside force?
403
00:21:35,946 --> 00:21:38,035
You know, all these different
aspects that are out there.
404
00:21:40,516 --> 00:21:43,519
Three weeks after
the whole bombing incident,
405
00:21:43,606 --> 00:21:47,654
Pennsylvania State Police
receive a call, and it's a guy.
406
00:21:47,741 --> 00:21:50,221
He describes himself
as Bill Rothstein,
407
00:21:50,309 --> 00:21:54,095
and he said that
there's a dead body
408
00:21:54,182 --> 00:21:56,402
in the freezer of his garage.
409
00:22:11,068 --> 00:22:14,028
- Next time on "FBI True"...
410
00:22:14,115 --> 00:22:16,987
- Bill Rothstein said
Marjorie Diehl-Armstrong
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00:22:17,074 --> 00:22:19,425
killed her boyfriend,
412
00:22:19,512 --> 00:22:22,428
and that's why
he's in the freezer.
413
00:22:22,558 --> 00:22:26,432
- Three dead bodies in three
weeks, all in close proximity.
414
00:22:26,519 --> 00:22:27,911
What the hell is going on?
415
00:22:27,998 --> 00:22:29,348
- The tower site
where Brian Wells
416
00:22:29,435 --> 00:22:32,916
delivers the pizzas
is steps away
417
00:22:33,003 --> 00:22:34,570
from Bill Rothstein's
driveway.
418
00:22:34,701 --> 00:22:35,919
- I helped her with it.
419
00:22:36,006 --> 00:22:38,052
I put it basically
in my garage.
420
00:22:38,182 --> 00:22:40,576
She wanted it
completely destroyed.
421
00:22:40,663 --> 00:22:42,665
- If you were from Erie,
you knew the name
422
00:22:42,752 --> 00:22:44,275
Marjorie Diehl-Armstrong.
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00:22:44,406 --> 00:22:46,669
She had a lot of death
around her.
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00:22:46,756 --> 00:22:50,673
- Rothstein should be charged
with the murder of Brian Wells
425
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,371
and a lot of other charges.
426
00:22:52,458 --> 00:22:54,111
- You didn't shoot
that guy, Marjorie?
427
00:22:54,198 --> 00:22:55,591
- It'll come out in court
what happened, and you'll see.
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