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[Jeff Shriner] 19 months into the investigation

looking for these children

and David Matusiewicz and Lenore Matusiewicz...

[phone ringing]

...I get a call from Galveston, Texas, Police Department,

and they'd found a deceased two year old child in the Galveston Bay.

-[phone ringing] -They were thinking

it may have been Christine's missing child.

-[phone ringing] -And so I had to call Christine.

That was one of the hardest things I've done in all my years.

[theme music playing]

Welcome to Very Scary People. I'm Donnie Wahlberg.

From the outside looking in,

the Matusiewicz family seemed like a tight knit clan,

pillars of the community,

and completely devoted to each other,

but in reality, a dark and twisted drama was playing out,

one that pitted an outsider against the family,

a drama that included stalking, kidnapping,

and, ultimately, murder,

leaving a trail of carnage in its wake.

This is The Courthouse Killers.

I'm on my way into work...

[engine roaring]

-[gun cocking] -[gunshot]

...and I hear across the police radio...

[officer on radio] I'm in the courthouse, in the Wilmington courthouse.

We've got shots fired here.

I'm heading in that direction.

[sirens wailing]

[police radio chatter]

[Bill David] I get there and immediately I find Detective Shriner

who said to me...

[Shriner on radio] I got two hit the lobby, two hit the lobby.

The first thing that hit me was the smell of gun smoke.

There were two victims on the floor,

and at that point, I went into policeman mode.

[reporter] Two women were shot. Gunman opened fire

at the New Castle County courthouse this morning.

The Matusiewicz's are a psychotic family

that'll do whatever they want if it'll meet their objective.

[Jill Matusiewicz] I don't even wanna say sick. It's not an illness.

They're crazy,

twisted, evil people.

So, the Matusiewicz family is made up of

Thomas Matusiewicz, who's the father,

and then Lenore Matusiewicz, who's his wife,

and then David is the oldest child,

and then their youngest was Amy.

-[cassette player clicking] -[button clicks]

[Donnie] For the Matusiewicz's, it was always family first,

after Lenore's troubled childhood.

[AJ Marsden] Lenore's upbringing,

we know that she lived in a chaotic house.

One thing about her childhood really stands out,

and this is the claim that she made

that she suffered from sexual abuse.

As far as Tom's background,

he was the golden child, he was the favorite.

[Jill] Growing up, Tom's mother and his father spoiled him,

and anything that Tom wanted, Tom got.

[Marsden] Having that type of upbringing

really causes you to develop

some sense of entitlement, some narcissistic tendencies.

[sirens wailing]

Myself and Tom, we were hired at the same time

for the City of Vineland Police Department.

We got to know each other pretty well.

He was more or less quiet.

I mean, he wasn't outgoing at all.

He really kept to himself.

He was always really enthusiastic about guns.

So, we would go out shooting on our days off.

He was a good shot.

Lenore felt like, at first,

Tom was a good provider for the family,

but throughout their years together,

she saw that wasn't exactly the case.

[Jill] As a family,

they were dysfunctional at best.

The kids were kind of unkept,

and basically they were undisciplined.

For a period of time, though, they lived in a motor home,

and it was loaded with roaches and such.

He would say that, "Well, Lenore says I gotta get another job.

Lenore says I gotta get more money."

So he started doing landscaping work

and he called in sick,

but one of the captains seen him

cutting the grass when he was off sick.

They told them that they were gonna fire him

or he'd have to resign,

and he resigned.

But Tom thought he had to do those jobs

in order to survive,

and that they didn't want him to survive.

[Marsden] Because of the bad things

that Tom perceived happening to him,

he also passed along the belief that the government shouldn't be trusted,

family comes first,

"We need to take care of each other."

All of the things that Lenore hoped her husband would be,

be a good provider, be good father to the children,

she realized he was not those things.

So she shifts her focus from Tom on to David.

David was always the favored child

in every way.

David could do no wrong.

He was the one that they expected

to go on and do great things for them.

He excelled in school.

He went to Glassboro State College

and he became an optometrist.

Those parents really admired him

and were really proud of everything he had done.

[Donnie] After graduating,

David starts his career as an optometrist in Delaware,

where a fellow employee catches his eye.

[Cris Barrish] David Matusiewicz and Christine Belford

met in the late '90s

at the Vision Center, where she worked,

and he was a young optometrist,

and they got along really well.

[Jeni Pugliese] Christine was super bubbly, very talkative,

liked people, liked a lot of activity around her,

just a a genuinely nice person.

[women laughing]

David was, by all appearances,

a solid citizen.

You would say that he's a pillar of society.

He appeared on the local PBS affiliates weekly news magazine

talking about Vision Care,

was involved in Special Olympics,

he provided eyeglasses to some of the participants.

David eventually bought the optometry practice

and it thrived under his leadership.

Christine admired that,

and they sort of fell in with each other.

Before Christine met David,

she was married to another man.

She did have a daughter with that man.

[Jeni] Christine was my sister-in-law, but also my friend.

She was married to my brother Bill

and they had my niece, Katie.

[Katie] I was little when they got divorced,

and then we lived with my grandfather, me and my mom.

[Marsden] Christine and her daughter Katie

were on their own, trying to find stability,

and she found it in David.

I don't remember the exact first time I met David,

but I do remember living with David, and he was fun.

He would play with me outside.

He put in a pool for me.

He taught me how to swim.

Christine and David married in the fall of 2001...

[flash bulb pops]

...and they bought a house.

She thought she was, like, living like a queen.

[Katie] He was a good stepdad.

He took care of me. He gave me everything I wanted.

[Donnie] Christine and David have their first daughter together

a few months after their wedding.

A year later, the family welcomes another little girl,

I think they were happy at first, when she had my sisters.

[child laughing]

The oldest was like his prized possession.

She looked like his family.

Yeah.

[Donnie] Four years into the marriage,

they welcome a third daughter.

The couple now has four kids, three still in diapers,

David's parents, Lenore and Tom,

move in with the young couple to help out,

but right away,

there is tension between Christine and Lenore.

Almost immediately upon their arrival,

Lenore thought that she ran the house.

She questioned everything that Christine did,

from what the children ate, to how they were dressed,

to what time they went to bed, to baths.

[Marsden] I think that abuse that she suffered when she was younger

really affected her later on in life

in that strong sense of family comes first

and I have to protect my family

and I have to keep them safe.

In Lenore's mind, it wasn't,

"I just wanna be there for Christine

and help her with these grandchildren."

In Lenore's mind, it was,

"I need to make sure that they are taken care of.

Christine clearly is not doing a good enough job.

These are now my children."

[dog barking]

[Donnie] Now living with their son and his wife,

Lenore Matusiewicz is driving a wedge between the couple,

questioning Christine's parenting at every turn.

David remained more loyal to his mother

than he did to his wife.

Christine was just saying,

"No, we need to decide this as a couple,

and without Lenore inserting her opinion in,"

and she kept losing,

and it was frustrating

and created a layer of friction.

[Marsden] Lenore has never viewed Christine or Katie

as part of the family,

so she sees this as her opportunity

to permanently get rid of Christine and Katie

and slide in as the girl's maternal caretaker.

There are a couple of different, odd dynamics

that we see in this family.

Lenore was the one in charge.

[Jill] Lenore has always ruled that family.

If she said, "No," it didn't happen,

and if she said, "Yes,"

they all did whatever they could to make it happen.

[Donnie] With tensions rising between Christine and David,

Christine's daughter, Katie, is in the line of fire.

[Jeni] Lenore was very

overtly mean to Katie.

Part of it was to make Katie

feel uncomfortable in the house.

It sort of kick started some other angst in Katie.

[Katie] So, my sister was probably one and a half

and she was getting a lot of attention

because she had finally learned to walk,

and I was not getting any,

so I just tripped her when she walked by,

and I got sent to my room.

When I went up to my room, Dave came up with me

and he told me not to touch any of his kids ever again.

[Jeni] David said,

"If you touch my kids again,

I'll throw you out this window,"

and Katie really took that to heart.

[Katie] That's when it became clear to me that I wasn't his kid

and I wasn't a part of "the girls,"

so that wasn't my family.

[Jeni] Things really started to get bad,

and Christine said,

"David has been saying some really awful things to me."

[glass smashes]

[Barrish speaking]

[Christine speaking]

That was really the clincher for her. Like,

"Oh, my God. This guy could do something to me."

[Jeni] It's difficult to describe David.

David seemed to me to be a person

who was uncomfortable in his own skin.

I don't know that he was trying to cover for something

or that he was truly just living a life

that he was afraid was going to fall apart at any moment.

She just decided that the marriage was not working,

and she decided to divorce David.

It was so insulting to David.

-[woman screams] -He was an eye doctor,

successful, well liked by his patients,

and he was definitely angered by the fact that

this woman would leave him.

[Timothy Hitchings] David fired her from her job at his clinic,

and she very quickly got a job

at another clinic for more money.

[Marsden] She's making him look bad,

and that pisses him off

because he doesn't wanna look bad to other people.

He's built his reputation.

[Hitchings] David did not wanna cooperate with the process.

He wanted the children living with him full time.

He wanted sole custody,

meaning he makes all the decisions.

It was "my way of the highway" kind of an attitude.

He has in his mind that she's an unfit mother,

so he wants the court to have

psychological evaluation done on Christine

and the court ended up having

psychological evaluations done on both of them.

While the psychologist found no issues with her as a mother,

they found that David, at times,

seemed to be at risk of losing touch with reality.

The psychologist said that David

would do the same thing over and over and over again

and think he was gonna get a different result.

Doing the same thing over and over again,

that's the definition of insanity.

[Hitchings] We had the custody hearing in February 2007.

They got joint custody.

[Hitchings] Christine was really happy with it,

but it didn't go the way David wanted.

[Donnie] That's not enough for David, Tom and Lenore.

They're all still under the same roof

and they want the kids to themselves.

David is now the person who's been wronged.

Lenore said at one point

that Christine had annihilated David's character.

David's wanting to get revenge

for what Christine is doing to him.

[Katie] After the divorce,

my mom went down to the Middletown house.

I think it was to pick up the girls or drop them off.

And David was there, and Tom and Lenore.

When David left the room,

Tom grabbed my mom by her arm

and drug her out back through the sliding glass door

in front of all of us.

I followed her outside, crying.

He was yelling at her outside and calling her names.

That was probably the first time I've ever seen Tom violent.

[Donnie] Despite the escalating tensions,

Christine still believes it's good for the girls

to spend time with their father,

so she gives David permission

to take the three daughters on a trip to Disney World,

even though Lenore is also going.

[Barrish] It was supposed to be a two-week trip.

-[numbers dialing] -Christine called the oldest daughter

for the first couple of nights and talked to her,

and the girl said she was a little tired,

"We're doing a lot of driving,"

which made sense. They were driving to Florida.

[numbers dialing]

The third night, she called...

[cell phone snaps]

...and the phone kept going to voicemail.

She said, "I have been calling...

[numbers dialing]

...and I can't get ahold of the girls."

She said, "Jeni, I don't think the girls are coming back."

I was the missing persons investigator

for New Castle County Police in 2007.

My first inclination was

it was a father taking his kids on vacation

and they failed to return

on the exact time they're supposed to be returned.

But you could tell in her voice

she thought something was wrong,

and now I'm thinking,

"Is he late coming home from Florida,

or did something worse happen?

Did he just try to take off with these children?"

I was able to obtain a search warrant

for the residence in Middletown.

It was vacant,

which was very unusual to me because Thomas lived there.

The house, for somebody who's an eye doctor

was very disheveled from the outside alone.

We didn't have a key. We had to force entry into the house.

[glass smashes]

There was just a bunch of trash.

The most interesting thing I found

is when I went to the fireplace

and it was nothing but ashes,

except the only thing that did not burn

was David and Christine's divorce papers.

There was something bitter with this. You could tell.

At that point, we figured it was a full on abduction.

The number one thing that concerned us,

he had over a two-week head start on us.

[reporter] The children's mother reported them missing.

Law enforcement have determined

Matusiewicz got away in an RV with his mother Lenore.

The thing about people doing crazy things,

you don't think about a solid citizen

running away from their house.

He had a nice house.

He had a very successful practice.

So it never occurred to me

and probably, presumably, never occurred to Chris

that these boxes were things he was packing

to get out of there.

He's not a vagrant.

He's not a drifter.

He's not a drug dealer.

He's not a fugitive from law.

He didn't have the profile for somebody who'd cut and run.

[Shriner] We started pulling credit card information

and the last of anything we could find

was in North Carolina where they stopped

and got fuel with a credit card.

[David] From that point forward,

there were zero transactions on that credit card,

there were zero ATM withdrawals,

there was no financial trail for us to look at

to try and determine where they went.

It's not making a lot of sense to me.

Then I end up catching a break.

Prior to departing Delaware,

David took a lot of steps

to liquidate a lot of assets.

He had a very successful optometry business.

He sold that business for a profit.

He cashed out his individual retirement account, his IRA,

and then committed wire and bank fraud

by doing an illegal refinance

of the home that he owned in Middletown, Delaware.

So when the bank got upset, the FBI got interested.

David had upwards of a million dollars in cash when he took off.

[David] I know, from my experience,

that someone with a million dollars of cash

is extremely difficult to track.

We had no idea where this guy was running to.

I was starting to fear for these kids.

The outcome could not be good if we don't find them,

and find them as fast as we can.

[David] One thing that I've learned as a fugitive investigator,

for the most part, people are creatures of habit.

So we were trying to interview people that we thought

maybe David would reach out to or keep in contact with.

[Donnie] Investigators start by reaching out to David's sister, Amy.

Myself and the marshals, we drove over to New Jersey

and met Amy face to face,

and she gave the similar type answers.

Didn't know how they got there,

wasn't concerned about them.

I was trying to explain to her that,

while she loves her brother and she wants to protect him,

she also has three nieces

that she needs to look out for.

I thought she was ready to break

and tell me what I needed to know,

and then very quickly,

she composed herself,

became a stone,

and gave us nothing else.

[Donnie] Next, detectives tracked down David's dad Tom,

who now lives in Smyrna, Delaware.

His answers were really vague.

He didn't know how they got to Florida,

didn't know when they were coming back.

A lot of didn't knows.

Now, we're talking a month or two into this case.

Had had no concern at all about where his wife,

son and grandkids were,

and that part didn't sell.

At that point, in my mind,

I was thinking, "You're complicit in this."

You could tell that this family,

A, they were smarter than everybody else,

B, they were kind of narcissistic.

Lenore thought she's the only one

who could raise these kids.

That was her mindset.

You know, obviously, David it was her son,

and she's gonna stick with her son through thick and thin,

so, "If it takes us grabbing a Winnebago and taking off

so Christine can't have 'em, we're gonna do it,"

and it was as much as her plan as it was David's.

I never saw Christine cry,

but as time went on,

she would become more and more worried.

Her biggest concern was that she would never see them again.

[David] During the course of the investigation,

we learned that Thomas moved from Smyrna, Delaware,

to Edcouch, Texas.

Initially, it was just Thomas living there.

A ranch style home

with a small bit of land around it,

pretty close to the southern border,

but then later,

Amy ended up moving to that same location.

So I reached out to our office in Texas

and I asked them to help me out with confirming

that David and the three girls are nowhere in that area.

Weeks are going by. They're spending significant amount of time...

[camera shutter clicking]

...checking on that property,

researching, interviewing people, things of that nature,

with no results.

Becoming extremely frustrated.

[Donnie] And then a grim discovery

leads investigators to another location in Texas.

Galveston, Texas, Police Department

found a deceased two-year-old child

in the Galveston Bay.

Christine Belford is in agony.

Her ex-husband, David Matusiewicz,

and David's mother Lenore,

have abducted her three young daughters.

Now a two year old's body is found in the Galveston Bay,

leaving the mother to fear the worst.

[Shriner] I get a call from the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children.

They requested me to get hold of Christine

and get a DNA sample,

and so I had to call Christine

tell her why I needed one.

[Ed McAndrew] She had to wait

to find out if that was her youngest child.

That was one of the hardest things I've done in all my years.

You know, I've been around murderers and all that.

That was tough.

But thankfully, it was not heraldry.

[Donnie] Tragically, that little girl

turns out to be Riley Ann Sawyers,

who'd been killed by her mother and her mother's boyfriend.

I think those things

brought that into her mind, like,

"Maybe he would harm the girls,"

and that became her biggest concern,

that they would kill them.

[Barrish speaking]

[Christine speaking]

[Barrish] Christine said she couldn't even go into stores

'cause she would just remember being with the girls.

She couldn't watch a TV show with children in it.

She was fully focused on finding them,

like any mom would. You know, the flyers.

[Barrish speaking]

[Christine speaking]

She was just distraught.

I told Christine that, you know,

I'm gonna do everything in my power to find her daughters.

It's what police officers do, you know?

I'm trying to figure out how I can generate new leads,

another angle to take.

I started focusing in more on Amy.

I need to know, if she is in touch with David,

how are they talking?

I went to the state AG's office

for subpoenas and court orders,

and that response is a half a ream of paper of records.

It's a needle in a haystack.

I'm trying to find that one piece of information

that will be my next lead,

and what that ended up being was

a call that came out of Panama to Amy,

and when I started to do a little bit of research on that,

it turns out to be a hotel in Panama.

That gave me the indication that there was potential

that David and the three girls were in Panama.

Well, now, what do I do with that?

Since that's a foreign country,

I have no jurisdiction there.

The Marshals Service has a diplomatic Security Service liaison agent...

-[phone clicks] -...so I reached out and said,

"I need someone to go over to this hotel

and just to get an idea as to how this occurred."

Unfortunately, everything at that point

needed to flow through a certain bureaucratic red tape.

That was a slow process.

A couple of months,

I still didn't hear anything.

Things were thrown across the office

because I knew what this meant to Christine

and I had a bad feeling about the Matusiewicz family.

It was over a year since this kidnapping

before I finally got confirmation they were in Panama.

David had purchased a house

in a community where a lot of North Americans had settled.

But my gut tells me the wrong person was interviewed

that either was untruthful with the investigator

or David had a stronger relationship

with that person that was interviewed.

But whatever it was, David was tipped off

that we knew they were in Panama,

and they ended up fleeing out of Panama.

He still had the RV,

had it packed and ready to go at a moment's notice,

so he threw everybody into the RV,

and the chase was on again.

[Donnie] David and Lenore get away,

but investigators are closing in on where they are

and who's been helping them.

One of the things that we were able to do

is target an email address

that we knew was being used by Amy Gonzalez.

Amy is reaching out to the Bank of Montreal...

[keys tapping]

...to facilitate a wire transfer down to Nicaragua.

I find a RE/MAX realtor being contacted.

Now I'm pretty confident

that Amy is facilitating another purchase.

Now I'm at a point where,

do I go through the same thing that I just went through

for 16, 17 months?

No. I can't let these girls continue to go through that.

So I take a trip to my headquarters,

and it was a very spirited conversation I had with my international branch.

I don't know what was said to the foreign investigators,

but the foreign investigator that was in Nicaragua did a fantastic job.

I couldn't have done a better job myself.

That investigator went out,

conducted the interview with a RE/MAX agent,

got the piece of property that David had purchased,

went there,

-put eyes on David... -[camera shutter clicks]

-...put eyes on Lenore... -[camera shutter clicking]

...and, more importantly, put eyes on all three girls.

-[camera shutter clicks] -[Christine] About 11:30 pm,

a US Marshals and a New Castle County police detective

-came to my door... -[knocking on door]

...knocking on the door, very excited. "We found them."

And when they told me they were in Nicaragua, I was quite surprised.

[Shriner] When we went out to Christine's house

and told her we had a location of children,

she hugged me and she was ecstatic.

She needed to immediately make flight arrangements to get down there.

[engine roars]

[Donnie] Christine heads to Nicaragua

for what she hopes is a reunion with her children.

Meanwhile, local police make sure

David and Lenore can't slip away again.

[birds chirping]

They watched David leave with the oldest daughter,

taking her to school.

They end up stopping the truck,

arresting him, recovering the one child.

They then have a team that goes back to the RV.

They arrest Lenore

and recover the other two children.

[reporter] The three girls were found safe

and reunited with their mother,

something a New Castle County Missing Persons detective

had promised what happened.

I told the mother that I'm not gonna give up,

so that's what we did.

After 19 months,

I finally have the kids back with their mother.

We met our objective.

When the girls came back, Christine was ecstatic.

She was just happy, happy, happy.

[Marsden] The girls were unfortunately told

that Christine not only died

and was no longer there,

but that she committed suicide.

The girls had nothing to run away back to,

and there was no one around them

that spoke their language,

that they could go to for help.

They probably fell in line pretty easily

just because they felt trapped.

[Katie] When my mom did finally bring my sisters home,

they didn't look like my sisters.

They were skinny.

They looked dirty.

They had haircuts that Lenore had given them,

so they all had a mullet.

[Jeni] And then the little one,

she had the worst case of pinkeye

I think that I have ever seen.

[Katie] I don't know why you would take the girls

and not want to actually take care of them,

you know, mentally, emotionally, physically.

[Marsden] This gets back to David's idea

that these girls are his property,

and if he and Lenore want them to be neglected, then that's fine.

He's their father. He dictates what happens to them.

He loves them, but it's a very empty love.

I visited Christine within a week after their return.

They all seemed happy to be around her.

Literally, they were crawling all over her,

the house was happy,

filled with three laughing children,

and it just seemed like,

"Wow, this awful story is gonna have a happy ending,"

and that's when, really, the reign of terror started.

[thunderclap]

[McAndrew] There are certain types of criminals

who really are committed

to their criminal objectives.

The Matusiewicz family was fueled by grievance,

grievance at the system,

grievance at the government,

and grievance at Christine Belford.

The law is not going to stop them.

It may slow them down for a while,

but unless they are incapacitated...

-[thunderclap] -...it will not stop them.

[Barrish] Lenore was charged in state court

for endangering the kids,

and David was being charged federally,

with kidnapping and with bank fraud,

but the news of the hearing

was the fact that David's lawyer,

suggested that the reason he had fled with the children

was that Christine was sexually abusing them.

Supposedly, this make-believe abuse

had been going on for a long time.

Never once had he ever said anything about that.

If you can make an accusation like that and make it stick,

you win the case.

I'd spoken to Thomas and it never came up.

I spoke to Amy in person, and that never came up.

As the lead investigator on the case,

you'd think somebody in this family

might wanna give me a clue why David might be running.

If he's using that excuse,

why wouldn't they get in touch with me?

It was something that I believe

that Lenore cooked up as a backup plan

to somehow try to justify his actions.

Lenore telling these stories

is a way of her expressing the abuse

that she suffered as a child.

The worst type of abuse that can happen to a child is sexual abuse.

Lenore never dealt with that trauma,

and this was her way of trying to deal with it,

even though she would never admit to that.

I think Lenore, when she first made this claim to David,

David didn't believe it.

However, he also agreed with Lenore that,

if you could convince the jury that this happened to the girls,

there was no way that they were gonna give those back to Christine,

and then Lenore and David would win.

[Jill] You would think that one would learn their lesson that,

"You did wrong. You've kidnapped these children,

and you paid the price for kidnapping these children,"

but Lenore, obviously, she had no limits.

[Hitchings] We have an institution

where children at risk in Delaware

are interviewed by psychologists

to try to ferret out any evidence from the child

on whether they've been abused or not.

The girls went through that kind of process,

and, of course, there was no corroborating evidence.

[McAndrew] These false narratives,

it's one thing to say them out loud in public,

it's quite another thing to try to prove them in a courtroom.

[Barrish] The judge took pains to point out that,

you know, "I find none of this credible."

Both David and his mother pleaded guilty.

They didn't want a trial.

Lenore got 18 months in state prison

and David got four years in federal prison

on charges of parental kidnapping and bank fraud.

[Katie] I remember my mom telling me that they had been sentenced

and that they were gonna be away for a little while.

It wasn't forever, but it was like a...

We could just sit and breathe because they were gone.

[Shriner] After David and Lenore were sentenced,

I just felt that the case was never gonna go away.

It was just a gut feeling.

This is a psychotic family

that'll do whatever they want to meet their objective.

This was about retribution.

This was about vengeance.

This was about annihilating Christine Belford

for what she did, in their minds,

not just to David but to their entire family.

I knew my mom was scared of them.

She didn't have to say it. I just knew.

[David] Years after David was sentenced,

I'm on my way into work

and I hear across the police radio

that there was a shooting in the courthouse.

[police radio chatter]

[officer on radio] I'm in the courthouse, in the Wilmington courthouse.

We got shots fired here.

I got two hit in the lobby. Two hit in the lobby.

I immediately reached out to my team...

[police radio chatter]

...and asked if any of them

could respond down to the courthouse.

[sirens wailing]

I'm heading in that direction.

Get there and immediately I find Detective Shriner,

who had been reassigned

as the New Castle County police liaison officer for the courthouse.

Detective Shriner said to me,

"Christine's in this building for a custody hearing."

-[engine roaring] -[siren wailing]

Even with David and Lenore behind bars,

the Matusiewicz family is still dangerous, unpredictable,

and laser focused on Christine and her children.

They wanna get revenge

by making Christine's life a living hell,

and take away everything she's ever loved.

They'll do anything to get her out of the way,

including taking the three girls from her permanently.

Lenore is in prison, David is in prison,

but Amy and Tom are not in prison.

So they still had two people on the outside.

The Matusiewiczes believed that the court system

had wronged them.

At the same time,

those beliefs were being fueled

by some of the groups they were getting involved in.

[AJ] Tom, from an early age,

felt like the world did not give him what he deserved,

and so he went seeking answers elsewhere.

And that's when he found

the sovereign citizenship movement.

[crowd clamoring]

This is an anti-government group.

It does not recognize the authority of the government

to govern its citizens.

So they don't believe that they have to follow

the same laws that citizens would follow.

They feel like the best thing that they could possibly do

is take matters into their own hands.

[narrator] Lenore doesn't let prison bars stop her

from escalating her vicious campaign against Christine.

She began writing the false narrative

that would become the story that they would tell

over and over and over again for years

in an effort to destroy Christine

and repossess the girls.

[AJ] When you tell a lie so many times,

the lie becomes a reality in your brain.

She started that

as a way to save her grandchildren, right?

Because I think she really did feel

like she was a better mother than Christine

and her and David knew what was best for the girls.

David's got access to email, and he emails Amy

and says, "Hey, no more Mr. Nice Guy.

I want you to do whatever you can to spread the word

that she had sexually abused these children."

[Ed] Amy Gonzalez was the dutiful sister,

daughter and communicator.

She really functioned within the conspiracy

as sort of the communications hub,

the person who connected different people online,

the person who moved different tactics

or conduct they were engaging in forward.

In Amy's mind, her mother has always been

somebody that she's wanted and needed affection from.

So when Lenore goes to Amy and asks Amy,

"Hey, can you set up a website

that explains all of these different things

that I think happened to the girls?"

So Amy views her as almost a god, in some ways.

She's going to do what her mother asks her to do

to get that praise.

The next thing that happened

is they created this website

called Grandmother's Impossible Choice.

[Ed] The impossible choice being

"Do I take my grandchildren away from their mother

and leave my family behind and flee the country

to save them from sexual abuse or not?"

Some of the allegations on the website

talked about Christine telling Lenore

that she can get $50,000

for each one of David's little blonde girls,

and she's going to be happy to do it,

and that they found the rap sheet of a child predator

under her bed.

It's all these crazy allegations.

It doesn't take a leap of logic

to think this was the plan all along

to get custody.

[Ed] Lenore would embellish,

and then other family members would add to the embellishment

with their own embellishment,

and the story became more outlandish

in terms of the allegations.

And some of those allegations included things like

"We knew something was wrong

when the oldest daughter said

Mommy told her about the G-spot.

And she had to do things to Mommy

to make Mommy feel good."

[Jeni] I would rather someone call me a murderer

than call me a sexual predator.

I mean, they know that that's the worst thing

that you can say.

[narrator] In September 2010,

Lenore is released from prison early

after serving only 12 months.

Days after she gets out,

the attacks against Christine escalate.

The family had really launched this coordinated campaign

to tar and feather Christine.

[Jeni] Lots of people had been getting handwritten letters.

They papered the town with them.

Her neighbors got them.

The schools got them.

The doctors' offices got them.

Christine said, "It's not true,

and I can't do anything about it."

Christine just seemed almost numb to it.

This idea of harassing Christine

was designed to get her to give up,

to remove herself from the situation,

maybe by suicide.

Maybe just to give them custody of the children.

[Jeni] They were watching her.

They knew where she was

and they were predicting her moves

and they were just...

just making her life very, very difficult.

[Katie] My mom wasn't in contact

with anybody from the Matusiewicz family,

but we would actually get cards in the mail from Amy

for all holidays and the girls' birthdays.

It was scary because it meant she knew where we were.

[Millard] I have relatives that send me greeting cards

for holidays and stuff,

but nowhere near to the volume that Amy was sending

communication to these children.

They sent my boyfriend a card when our daughter was born,

saying that every baby's birth deserves to be celebrated,

with a $5 check.

I don't know how they knew that I was even pregnant.

They're always around every corner.

They know what you're doing.

What makes them so scary

is just knowing that they're not going to stop.

Christine had made serious efforts to stop it.

We found a copy of a letter

that she had sent to Amy and her parents,

requesting that they stop sending the cards

and the letters.

It didn't work. They continued to come.

Christine even went so far

as to speak to the victim's advocate

at the US Attorney's Office here in Wilmington

and expressed her concerns about what had happened.

[Katie] So my mom still tried to update David

about the girls

and let them know things that they were doing.

She was trying to meet him halfway.

But eventually she wanted to cut off all contact

between David and the children.

So we filed a petition for termination of parole rights.

Once the parental connection is severed by the law,

then the grandparents and the aunt,

they're no longer legally array to the children.

[Ed] Once she fought back

and terminated their parental rights

in a family court proceeding,

they escalated beyond harassment.

[Ed] As the Matusiewiczes build out their scheme,

they clearly understood that they were going to need

to involve other people.

So they were finding people who were sympathetic

because they believed...

they were going to be part

of helping protect these children.

[Millard] I'm not really sure how a family that was so crazy

was able to lure all of these people into their scheme.

High-school sweethearts,

people who were school teachers from their childhood.

They included past friends of the family,

as well as perfect strangers who got to know them,

in one way or another,

and just thought they were helping

do something good to protect children.

[Millard] One of the characters who emerged was Cindy Bender.

Cindy had befriended Christine online,

and expressed sympathy for her

and explained that she had grown up

in the same town with the Matusiewiczes.

She just wanted to make sure my mom was okay

and check in on the girls.

And my mom thought she was just being friendly.

And they would send emails back and forth and pictures.

What Christine didn't realize is that David had email access

while he was in federal prison

and had been communicating with Cindy Bender.

David Matusiewicz was a high-school sweetheart of hers.

What Cindy did is she acted as a spy.

She would feed David information she was getting

from Christine's private Facebook account,

pictures of the girls, things they were doing,

what was going on in Christine's personal life,

that he could use in their stalking campaign.

I would describe Cindy Bender as a double agent.

[Jeni] Christine was hyper-vigilant, I would say,

very aware of what was going on around her.

She wanted to know where her kids were.

If they went outside to play,

they had to have an adult with them all the time.

We actually got cameras on the outside of her house

and the monitor was in her bedroom,

and it just ran and you could watch them.

We also got three German shepherds.

[Millard] This house was fortified.

There was a baseball bat beside her bed.

There was a knife on the bedstand.

There was a ladder that could be deployed

out of an upstairs window.

[Katie] My mom had always said

if the Matusiewiczes were to ever come to the house

while we were there,

that she would try and hold them off downstairs as long as possible,

and I was supposed to help the girls

get out of the second story window

then go next door to our neighbor's house.

He was a state trooper.

Yeah.

What's really heartbreaking about the escape plan

is that it involved Christine sacrificing herself.

[narrator] It's a plan that is put into action

on one fateful afternoon.

So while David is still incarcerated

and Lenore has been released,

Lenore and Tom drove to Delaware from Texas,

they contacted a private investigator,

and asked him to escort them to Christine's house

under the guise of returning a afghan

that supposedly would have sentimental value

to the children.

I was coming home from school one day...

and I recognized their car.

It was the same car they had when they had lived

in Middletown with us when I was younger.

[Millard] But the audacity that,

after kidnapping these children,

after going to prison,

after having parental rights terminated,

that they would actually go to her front door

is mind-boggling.

There was no court order that was going to keep them

from continuing on their mission

to take her kids away.

[Katie] When I saw Tom, I knew we had to get to the house

and get the girls and make sure they were safe.

I was with my mom's boyfriend and my mom was not home.

So we locked the door

and here they came,

Tom knocking on the door,

saying he was just dropping off some blankets

that were knitted for my sisters.

I didn't tell my sisters they were there.

[dog barking]

When Tom went to the house that day, he was armed.

We can tell from Christine's own home video surveillance

that there was a gun underneath his shirt.

I personally believe that they came

to murder Christine Belford that day.

[Jeni] I was concerned for the girls.

I felt like when David got out of prison,

that he might make a random appearance.

[Katie] I remember my mom talking about him getting out of jail soon.

She was worried.

[Cris] David gets released from prison,

he goes and joins his parents

at their little ranch house in Texas,

where Amy is living nearby.

She's got a young child.

And sends her an email and says,

"Prepare yourself to have four children under your care."

Does he think that he's miraculously going to convince

the Delaware courts to give him custody?

What does he know?

David was imprisoned for two and a half years,

and he spent every minute

seething with hatred for Christine,

a hatred fueled by his mother's delusions.

But no matter what the Matusiewicz family says or does,

Christine never breaks.

Now, with David out of prison,

this twisted family has an even more horrifying plan,

to get rid of Christine

and get custody of the girls once and for all.

[Ed] After David's release from prison,

he has to report to the US probation office.

And the first thing he asks for

is permission to travel from Texas,

where he was released, to New Jersey,

which happens to be right next to Delaware.

He wanted to get back here immediately.

But David is denied permission to travel

because the probation office had a policy

that nobody who was released can leave the state

for at least 60 days.

With every tactic that David tried

and was met with either resistance

or was met with failure,

he was going to escalate it to the next level.

In the fall of 2012,

there was a mediation in Family Court

to deal with the issue of child support.

He owes support payments to Christine,

and he can't pay them because he's not working.

There's a mediation where he participates in by phone.

The mediator says,

"Just tell us what you can pay per week,

and we can make arrangements."

[Timothy] He said he couldn't pay any child support at all

because he's disabled.

He never said what his disability was.

[Ed] He understands that if he doesn't agree to something,

there will have to be a hearing before a judge.

He wanted to have a reason to come to Delaware.

Better yet, now he had a reason to make Christine

come to a particular place as well.

What he did not tell the probation office

is that he's not coming alone.

Christine said, "David wants this thing

and, you know, I'm just going to go,

and it's going to be done,

and we're just going to move on."

[Millard] There's also a lot of security.

It's all keycard access.

So the building was safe.

Beth Mulford was a family friend,

and she came to the court to provide some moral support.

[Katie] The night before court, I remember I came downstairs

and, um, she was just up and watching TV and laughing.

She wasn't sleeping.

And I asked her what was wrong,

and she just said she wasn't tired.

So she never let us know

how scared she was.

And I said, "How do you feel about Monday?"

And she said, "I'm scared to death,

but I'm going."

[Millard] David and Tom Matusiewicz

had driven into Wilmington that morning.

They parked in a parking garage across the street.

Something unusual about that is

there's a parking garage attached to the courthouse.

They did not use that parking garage.

They walked across the street and went into the courthouse.

David got in line for going through security.

Tom did not get in line.

He stayed outside in the public area of the lobby.

According to a witness.

at one point, he came back over to David,

they embraced.

Tom said, "Everything's going to be all right."

However, he doesn't leave.

He stays in the lobby for quite some time...

...until Christine Belford and Beth Mulford arrive.

[gunshots]

Both women dropped right where they were.

[officer over radio] I got two hit in the lobby. Two hit the lobby.

[siren wailing]

[officer] I'm in the courthouse, in the Wilmington Courthouse.

We've got shots fired here.

[police chatter over radio]

[Jeff] It comes across the police radio about a shooting

in the New Castle County courthouse.

I was only a mile away,

so of course I came.

There was mass chaos.

There were police cars everywhere.

When the shooting occurred...

[gunshots]

...armed law enforcement inside the lobby of the courthouse

started to return fire on Thomas.

Thomas, in turn, started to shoot at them.

He struck at least one of them in their bulletproof vest.

But Thomas was also struck.

As he's trying to make his escape

out the side revolving door,

the building goes into lockdown.

And that door locks.

He's now stuck in that revolving door.

And as a result of that,

he ends up taking his own life.

[Jeff] I went inside the courthouse.

The first thing that hit me was the smell of gun smoke.

There were two victims on the floor.

One of my captains walked up to me,

and he said, "That's Christine Belford."

And my heart just sank.

It hit home real quick.

And at that point, I went into policeman mode.

Where's David?

[Millard] By the time the shootout occurs,

David has gone through security

and been cleared to enter the courthouse.

I got to know some of the family court judges

who worked on their parental rights termination

and the divorce.

And I was in fear that David was in the courthouse,

was going to go looking for them.

[gunshots]

[Millard] Once the shooting began,

court personnel began herding people into courtrooms

and David did end up in that room.

As luck would have it, there was a court bailiff

taking people's names

because they were all potential witnesses

that may be needed later.

I said, "Is there a David Matusiewicz?"

And he said, "Yeah, I just had him.

And they just released him."

So we run over the elevators

and there's David Matusiewicz at the base of the elevators,

getting ready to go out the back door of the courthouse.

We yelled to him, "David, get up here."

And he turned. He turned right around

and walked through the crowd, came right back upstairs.

He was calm, cool and collected.

I told the sergeant of our SWAT team,

I said, "Put him in handcuffs."

The focus turned to three Matusiewicz girls.

Where are they? And are they safe?

The Delaware State Police identified all three schools

where the children were,

had confirmed that they were there

and we had school resource officers en route

to pick the kids up.

[narrator] Investigators detain David in an empty courtroom

and begin processing the scene.

At the same time,

details about the crime make their way to the public.

I remember I was sitting there watching TV...

[reporter on TV] Two women were shot to death when a gunman opened fire

at the New Castle County courthouse this morning.

At this time, the shooter is dead

and two capitol police officers were wounded.

It said shooting at the Wilmington courthouse.

And I said, "Well, that's that."

No, no. But I just knew.

I knew that they weren't going to stop.

And I knew that David was there that day,

and my mom was there.

It just wasn't a coincidence.

I wanted to go get my sisters.

I wasn't allowed to get them.

They had already been taken into the police station.

Yeah.

Preliminarily, this was the result of a custody dispute

that has lasted in our court system

for several years.

[Jeni] When I found out that Christine was a victim,

it felt unbelievable to me.

But, at the same time, it wasn't a surprise at all.

Because it was all coming to a head.

After I found out that Tom had been the one to shoot her...

I remembered one of the things that Christine had said to me.

She said, "Tom is an excellent shot.

If he wanted to kill me, he could."

[gunshots]

[Millard] Christine Belford and Beth Mulford

were murdered in the lobby of the courthouse.

And you want to bring the person responsible for that to justice.

Well, on the surface, that was Thomas Matusiewicz.

You could say, "This is a murder-suicide.

We'll document it and we walk away from it."

We couldn't do that.

Tom pulled the trigger,

but these women were killed by the Matusiewicz family.

[Ed] Tom is the violent force that runs through the family,

but he is very much someone who is doing

what Lenore and David have provoked him into doing.

We need to find Amy Gonzalez and Lenore Matusiewicz

as fast as possible.

[police radio chatter]

[Bill] Now the real work starts

of trying to piece all of this together.

I immediately start asking...

"Where's Lenore?"

I felt it was imperative to quickly try to get

some type of interview with David.

He eventually did invoke his Miranda rights

and requested an attorney.

But by that time,

he was able to tell us where his mother was.

She was in Elkton, Maryland,

at the residence of David and Peggy Mitchell.

Mr. Mitchell was a former employee of David Matusiewicz.

They had actually spent the night before the court hearing

in Elkton with the Mitchells.

[narrator] One team focuses on Lenore,

while the second searches for the car

that David and Tom took to the courthouse.

[Millard] When detectives located the car,

they could tell there was a lot of items inside the car.

So much so that you really

couldn't see well into the car.

So there was a concern that, is there a bomb in this car?

They used a robot to open the vehicle

and remove all the contents

before we were able to thoroughly go through it

for evidentiary value.

What we find is evidence that makes clear

that this was not a random act,

that this was planned.

It was premeditated.

Bulletproof vests, handcuffs,

three handcuffs in successively smaller sizes

down to tiny handcuffs

that could be put on a small child.

A cattle prod and lots of ammunition.

From the parking garage,

The investigation moves to the house in Maryland

of David Matusiewicz's friend,

where the Matusiewiczes stayed the night before the shooting.

The marshal's task force confirmed that Lenore

was at the residence

and she willingly came back to Delaware.

[Ed] He asked those friends specifically,

"How did Lenore react

to the news that there had been a shooting

at the courthouse?"

And the answer we got

was not "Oh, my God, my husband's dead.

Or maybe David's dead."

It was "We have to get the girls now.

We have to go get the girls right now."

[Bill] They end up seeing a car in the driveway

that has Texas plates on it.

They ask whose that is,

and Lenore indicates that that's the vehicle

that she brought from Texas.

David, Lenore and Tom drove in two cars.

And that other car was full of weapons.

Assault rifles, handguns, tons of ammunition,

gas cans, shovels.

Lots of stuff that could have been used

for a variety of things.

The Matusiewiczes likely had multiple plans

for how they were going to deal with Christine Belford

and the girls.

We found a note that Tom left for Amy.

It included instructions like,

"Amy, take my guns. Keep them."

It also included funeral instructions

through the VA Cemetery.

And he wrote,

"When your government takes your granddaughters away from you,

it ceases to be your government."

[Millard] Amy was contacted at work in a hospital in Texas,

and she...

played like she knew nothing about this.

Eventually, we executed a search warrant at Amy's house.

And she had communications

from private investigators in Delaware.

She had documents related to the custody battle

for the children.

[narrator] However, it's not enough for authorities to charge Amy.

Back in Delaware,

investigators continue combing through the evidence

from David and Tom's car.

They find something that chills them to the bone.

[Ed] Found in the vehicle was a red notebook

that had all kinds of notes that we later found out

was largely written by Tom Matusiewicz.

[Millard] I would refer to the red notebook as an index.

It documented years' worth of stalking

and cyberstalking.

A handwritten document was located in that notebook.

Had the letters "HL" at the top

and a list of last names.

Ultimately, we determined that that "HL"

stood for "hit list."

[Ed] The hit list that we found

included the names of various judges

and lawyers and witnesses and doctors

who had been involved in the prior criminal cases

and in the family court proceedings.

It was just a who's who of who they felt

was responsible for them losing the rights

to have anything to do with the Matusiewicz girls.

Christine Belford's name was on there.

Timothy Hitchings' name was on there.

[Timothy] I will never forget hearing that

on the phone from the police

that... confirming that I was an intended victim as well.

I assume they probably thought I'd be at the courthouse.

You know, it's kind of spooky.

You know, you think about grief

and you think about fear.

I had both of them at the same time.

And I was worried.

I was more worried for my kids that could be found

and harmed in some way.

And, um, that's pretty scary.

A conspiracy to murder would require the state

to prove that Amy, David, Lenore, and Tom agreed

that they were going to kill Christine.

We knew it, but we didn't have the evidence

to bring a murder charge.

Lenore, Amy, did not simply stand down.

The day after the shooting, Amy Gonzalez from Texas

filed a petition to assume custody of the three girls.

[Millard] This campaign would continue

regardless of where these children were.

Whoever's custody they were in was in imminent danger.

We can't just let these people go free.

[Ed] David was in custody

for violating his federal probation.

His probation authorized him

to travel straight to Delaware for his hearing

and straight back to Texas.

The fact that he had traveled with someone

and the fact that he had spent the night

somewhere other than Delaware,

that was enough for him to be held.

[Ed] He had been sentenced to six months,

and it was in that six-month window

where we had to pull

all of the investigative threads together

and knit that into a case

before he would be out on the street

and released.

Lenore and Amy, in particular,

continued to use the Internet

to propagate their false and defamatory lies

about Christine Belford.

And they did it in a way to try to justify

what had happened.

They didn't talk so much about Tom,

other than to say,

"Tom had a brain tumor,

and that must have caused him to do this."

"And he was acting alone."

They made that clear, right?

They wanted to get that out there.

[Millard] At that point,

it's clear we're not going to get

to charge these people with murder.

We just don't have the evidence

to prove the conspiracy.

[Ed] And with regard to Amy, in particular,

she was behind a keyboard.

She was in Texas when this murder occurred.

She wasn't even here.

How do you prosecute people

for using the Internet to foment violence?

There is a statute on the books at the federal level,

cyberstalking resulting in death.

And it carries a possibility,

a possible sentence of life without parole.

The holdup was it had never been prosecuted.

Nobody had ever gone to court with this.

It looked like it would be a tall challenge.

But we have to try it.

The facts set forth in the indictment alleged that beginning

in December of 2009,

David Matusiewicz with the assistance of his mother,

father, and sister,

orchestrated a three-year campaign

designed to defame, harass, intimidate,

and frighten Christine Belford and her children.

The cyberstalking trial began in June 2015.

[Katie] I testified on behalf of my mom

and how scared she was.

When I saw David in the courtroom,

I actually started to cry.

It had been a long time since I had seen him,

since before the girls were actually kidnapped.

I tried not to look at him.

After I saw him and started crying,

I knew that I had to get it together.

And the way to do that was not to look at David.

[Ed] We started with the shooting itself.

And then we walked the jury through

everything that we found.

And a critical component of that

was the Grandmother's Impossible Choice website.

That really sort of brings into focus their tactics

in using the Internet to destroy Christine.

But of the more than 70 witnesses

who testified at the trial,

none were more important

than the oldest of the three girls.

[narrator] Christine's 8-year-old daughter

bravely takes the stand and sets the record straight.

She got up there

and said, "It's all a bunch of lies.

My mother never hurt me.

My mother never hurt any of us."

This was the moment of truth for the Matusiewiczes

as the person they were so committed to saving

dismantled their falsehoods in front of a jury.

[AJ] This child was not going along with the plan,

and they probably felt like this was a sign of Christine,

one of Christine's traits coming through

on this particular child.

In closing,

one of the lines that we used for the jury

was to make clear

that they killed the person they hated the most

in the place they hated the most.

[gunshots]

When Tom decided that he was going to do

the courthouse shooting,

it was symbolic in a couple of ways.

He was not only going to take care of Christine

and make sure that she was not going to get those girls,

but he was also going to make his stand

against the government in a government building.

All they needed to find was all the hate

that had been built up over the years

between the Matusiewicz family against Christine Belford

that this was the natural and probable outcome

of their actions.

[Ed] The Matusiewiczes were each found guilty

of cyberstalking resulting in death.

And in February 2016, three years after the killing,

Amy, David, and Lenore

were all sentenced to life in prison

without the possibility of parole.

[Ed] David had no reaction to his sentence.

There was a real question of whether David felt the things

and how he felt things.

Lenore Matusiewicz

after the trial became ill.

She had terminal cancer.

The defense wanted to put off the sentencing,

and the judge said "No. I'm going to the hospital.

She's going to hear her sentence before she dies..."

[machine beeping]

...and sentenced her to life imprisonment

on her deathbed.

This family has destroyed a lot of lives.

Katie was like a second mother to the girls.

They lost her.

[Katie] The day of the shooting,

I was actually able to go into the police station

and meet with my sisters in a room.

My sisters were little,

and I don't know if they even knew what happened yet.

I didn't know it was gonna be the last time

that I would see them.

By that afternoon, those kids were in protective custody.

Unfortunately, those kids will have to be forever hidden.

Even into adulthood.

Everybody saw how far the reach was

from Texas to Delaware.

So you don't know what kind of contacts these people have.

[Katie] There's always the constant wondering.

Are they okay?

Are they together?

Where are they?

What they're doing at that point in their life,

and you don't know, and...

It's hard.

My daughter doesn't know my sisters.

She doesn't know anything about

my mom's side of the family.

So...

[narrator] It's a hard life, living anonymously,

but it keeps them protected from the twisted evils

this family could still concoct from behind bars.

As a family, they feed into each other's delusions.

They manipulate one another to get what they want.

When their goals align, such as with the girls,

they can do some really scary things.

[Ed] They moved along a pathway of violence,

and they did it together.

They supported one another.

They were like-minded.

It took a long time before I could go to the courthouse

without thinking about it.

Every once in a while, I get a glimpse of somebody in the-

you know, out of the corner of my eye

who looked- who looked like Christine,

and I do a double take.

This case was supposed to end on that lot in Nicaragua.

It wasn't supposed to end

with her laying in a pool of blood

in the lobby of the courthouse.

And it's something I'll take to my grave

and just be angry about and hurt about, and...

pissed off about

that this was not supposed to happen.

I don't even want to say sick. It's not an illness.

They're- they are...

crazy, twisted, evil people.

What makes the Matusiewicz family so scary

is that they are hiding in plain sight.

You could fall in love with somebody that you don't really know

and...

end up in a situation where...

you cross the family and you end up dead.

Christine's children are free from David and his family,

but that doesn't mean they're out of danger.

As they've shown,

the Matusiewicz family have people all over the country

willing to help them in their bizarre quest.

The family's terror knows no bounds.

They are driven by vengeance, obsessed with control.

That is why, even today, the Matusiewiczes remain

a family to fear.

I'm Donnie Wahlberg.

Thanks for watching.

Good night.

Next time on Very Scary People...

When you first meet Marjorie Diehl-Armstrong

you remember it.

[Marjorie over the phone] I'm not going to go quietly,

and I will make mincemeat out of their lives.

Man: I thought I had seen a lot, but I had never seen that.

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