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- Man: We have this technology,
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But what do you do with it?
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You use it all,
it's part of the vocabulary
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and to catch that truth of that moment, that's the
challenge,
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- man: What I like is not to arrive
at a clear and obvious conclusion,
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but to leave you, the audience, stuff
to go away and argue about, um,
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ponder about, reflect on,
rather than for it all to be tied up
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so that you can go away and
forget the whole thing,
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- Man: But sometimes,
you'll find that, um,
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A film is looked at solely
for its content without any regard
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to the style or manner in
which the story is told,
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After all, that basically
is the art of the cinema,
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(film projector whirring)
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- Man: Films, cinema,
cinema, it's contagious,
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There is something in you
that-that-that needs it,
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That need--
And you are driven to it,
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You-you-you-you're pulled
into it,
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My drug was movies,
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Like reading poetry that makes
you want to... to-to also write poetry,
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- Humanity, in-in order not to go... go nuts in
contemporary civilization,
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which is very boring,
they need some entertainment,
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They need something,
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(breathing heavily)
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- It's... it's--
They function the same as drugs,
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We are almost at the point
where it's like a end of a circle
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where people used to sit
and smoke and relax
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and see images that
project into that smoke, and now,
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after a series of many different technologies,
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motion pictures,
video, computers, digital,
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we are dreaming already about
implanting something in the eye,
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in the brain,
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It's like a big tree with small,
tiny branches and-and huge,
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huge branches where--
and huge epics and-and little haiku,
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The challenge, you see--
of my own challenge and every--
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Everyone to watch in every art
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is you just go,
like, to-to catch the essence,
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You can call it hard, but usually
that's an essential moment
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that you--that is-- So much in it that
you want to go back again and again
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to see or to listen or to experience,
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to help you not to go crazy
or to go crazy in some other way,
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(bubbling)
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(bubbling)
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- Man: It's so beautiful,
cinema,
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Cinema can go deep or it can go shallow
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and I think the great films, uh,
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tell a story,
a surface story,
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but the great cinema goes deep
into the psyche
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and these undercurrents
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are caught on deeper levels,
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It can get abstract and conjure something in a
person
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that can only be conjured
through this language of cinema,
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The real gift is when you
get an idea,
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it comes in a spark and you
see it and you feel it and you hear it,
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(knocking)
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If you get the elements correct, uh,
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the thing will dig into a person
and they'll-they'll have this experience,
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It can conjure a kind of a knowing,
even though it's abstract,
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It's-It's real magical,
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If the picture is giant
and the sound is beautiful
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and the people are quiet and
they get into this world,
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it's very, very delicate
how you get into that world,
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it can be broken with
the wrong sound,
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it can be broken
with a stupid little screen,
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it can be broken with people
making noises in the theater,
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It's so delicate, but if you get
into that world, it can be like a dream,
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You're not only an observer, but you
can get caught up in that world
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and it can become very real,
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In dreams, logic goes out
the window and yet you understand it,
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There's a thing
called imagination,
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but I think imagination
is just ideas flowing,
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I always equate it to fishing,
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You can't take credit
for a beautiful little trout,
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uh, but you can realty appreciate it
when you catch one,
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- I'm so glad you didn't give the center over to
the aisle, this is really good,
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Good,
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(chatter)
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- Woman: I just remember,
you know, a lot of people saying...
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- man: I've never seen kind of-- these
kinds of films ever, just--
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And I see yours and
I'm kind of, "Whoa, what is this?"
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- Good,
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- Jacobs: These movies are,
you know, thoughts,
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They're stores of memory,
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And they only matter to us because
they strike sparks with that stuff,
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- I'm very,
very inspired,
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- You don't have much
of a choice,
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You have to--
You have to do it,
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You know, we have to...
(sighs)
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Persevere,
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- man: So what'd you
think of the audience?
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Did they like the movie--
They got it?
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- Yeah,
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No one walked out
that I know,
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You just have to really
be afflicted with it, realty,
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(singing)
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- I'm interested
in alternative film form,
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I'm realty interested in what
the medium itself can do,
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What I'm looking
for in film is to get...
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an enhanced understanding, an enhanced
access to the world,
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- It's diminishing, the amount of interest there is
in this kind of cinema, I think,
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but there's still
a hardcore group of people
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that still appreciate it,
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- And there's young people
who are coming up
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who are realty interested in it,
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- I'm not gonna, like,
blanket-say Meryl Streep can't fit into it,
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- That dingo took my baby!
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Took my baby--
My baby!
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- Bon appétit,
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- If I juxtaposition
or remake it in a certain way,
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maybe it could fit in
this category,
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- All al-- alone,
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All al-- alone,
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All al--
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- woman: We distribute films that
are not for the mass media,
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Hollywood has a formulaic,
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a beginning, a middle
and an end,
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If I go see
the "Twilight" series, it-it--
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The vampires isn't even
a vampire,
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He won't sleep with the girl
because, uh, he's Mormon or something,
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I look for the deepest part of
the human psyche,
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what cannot be expressed in words
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and what is, um, sometimes
graphic and explicit and painful,
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but it's what we all have in common, what makes
us human,
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(film projector whirring)
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- I think we're seeing
an experimental film
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from maybe the '60s,
but I can't realty place it,
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I see a lot of, sort of, Andy Warhol
factory-types,
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I tend to sort of prefer my
cinema to have a little bit of story,
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I feel like that's important,
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I have, uh, an iPhone and I can just sit
there and record and record
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and, um, that
doesn't make it cinematic,
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It just makes it a $300 item
that records video,
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You have to bring a
little bit more to the show
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if you want to
be called cinema, I feel,
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- woman: All al--
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- Serra: We're part of the counterculture,
that idea of outside the mainstreams
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and it still applies today,
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It can be any form,
it can be any content,
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It's personal vision,
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Anyone can make a film,
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(horns honking)
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- To me, the-the basis of, uh,
motion pictures is the experience
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and the narrative can be
part of the-the-the, uh--
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the experience, but it's-it's that you-you
as the viewer experience something
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in-in time,
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(horns honking)
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A great movie, um, stand
up under repeated viewings
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And that once you know the story,
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you're free in a way to get deeper
into other parts of the-of the experience,
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(horns honking)
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There's a lot more than, uh,
than-than-than just the plot,
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- You don't go to bed deciding what you're gonna
dream and make, uh, notes,
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I will dream this,
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You know, you don't
need a script, you dream,
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And the dreams can be very vivid,
and you know, utterly necessary,
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And I felt that way about-about
the filmmaking,
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that if I-if I had a story to tell,
it-it would make itself known,
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- Hoberman: And the powerful thing about
motion pictures
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is that it's an experience which hundreds of
thousands, millions of people
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can-can share, although it's not
going to be identical in every case,
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and that-that, to me, is
not the same thing
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as-as saying that they're
all, um, following the same story,
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There's nothing intrinsic
in motion pictures
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that demands a
narrative and a case could be made
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that the narrative element
is, uh, secondary
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to many other
things in the movie,
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- The best scripts don't
make the best films,
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you know, because
they have that kind of literary,
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you know, narrative thing, you know, that you're
sort of a slave to,
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The best films, you know,
are the ones that aren't, like,
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tied to that slavishly, so, um...
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so I don't know, the whole narrative thing, it just
seems to me like, you know,
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you don't-you don't first think
of the story of the song
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and then make the song,
you know, it has to come out
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of the-- that moment,
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you know, and that's what film has,
it's just that moment which is holy,
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- I was in and out of the
holy moment, looking at you,
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Can't be in a holy--
you're unique that way, Caveh,
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That's one of the reasons
I enjoy you,
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You can bring me into that,
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- man: Let's see, now, I have a
sample of her handwriting here,
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Oh, yes,
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Here we are,
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Marie Samuels,
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Has an interesting
address,
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- man: When I say that I'm
not interested in content, uh,
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it's, uh, it would be the same as
a painter worrying about
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whether the apples that he's
painting, whether they're sweet or sour,
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Who cares?
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It's his style, his
manner of painting them,
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We have a rectangular screen
in a movie house,
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Now, this rectangular screen has got
to be filled with a succession of images,
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Any art form is there for
the artist to interpret it
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in his own way and
thus create an emotion,
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(plane rumbling)
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- Man: I wish I knew how
to quit you,
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- You just don't
belong in my world, Bella,
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- I belong with you,
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- My name is Maximus Decimus
Meridius,
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And I will have my vengeance,
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- Can't you see
it's impossible?
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- No,
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- In dealing with
high emotion of jealousy
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and, uh all of the melodramatic
elements, betrayals and all
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this kind of stuff, I was
very aware of-of dealing with a genre,
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but, uh, because I didn't use actors,
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I used, uh, dancers who had no
acting ability at all,
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One way of describing my
relation to making art of any kind
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is, uh, batting my head against
the wall of, uh, familiar practices,
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- I'd like to kick your ass in,
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- It's a Brechtian idea
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of disrupting the spectators'
identification, uh,
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and making them aware that they're seeing
something that is constructed,
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- man: Sherman, is that you?
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- Rainer: Shut up back there,
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- woman: Now, you keep
your body there,
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One, two,
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- Rainer: I was making a kind of dance
that wasn't involved with stories
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or topical issues and
the second wave of feminism came along
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and the possibilities of film
seemed so much more...
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open and, uh, extended than
what I was able to do with-with dance,
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- Court jesters were
always male,
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Even as fools,
they were accorded dignity,
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But when a woman plays the fool,
she's made to feel like an idiot,
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There's no dignity
in the role for us,
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- Rainer: I never expected
a mass audience,
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I mean, I go to some of my
screenings and the only reason I stay
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is to see when people
will leave,
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"Jeanne Dielman" was a
very radical film for its time,
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She was telling a story, in a
very attenuated way,
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about the disillusion
of the main character,
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- Of course, we were all influenced
by feminism and its, uh, its protest
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against the, uh, inequities
in social and private life,
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(grunting)
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There is no way the image of a
woman could, uh, be, uh, represented
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without it being sexualized,
238
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(brakes screeching)
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This male gaze was
something to be analyzed...
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Beginning with the director then
the, uh, the male character,
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The woman's
body was a landscape
242
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through which the man passed
and controlled,
243
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- Here's looking at you, kid,
244
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(crashing)
245
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(screaming)
246
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- This is one night you're
not turning me out,
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- This your girl?
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- I'm my mother's girl,
249
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- Rainer: You know,
it still goes on,
250
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We are bombarded
by images of women's bodies
251
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and it's an ongoing struggle
to deal with that
252
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in art-making of all kinds,
253
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- Wh-what's this?
254
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Heavy underwear,
255
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(metal clattering)
256
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Sorry about that,
257
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- Cinema is
the sexiest thing possible,
258
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First of all, you're dealing with
the issue of control and passivity,
259
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The person behind the camera
ostensibly has control,
260
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the person in front of the camera
is supposedly the subjective,
261
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or the object,
and so there's a little dance,
262
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(groaning)
263
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But I absolutely believe that
everything in life is political,
264
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For me, anything that you
turn the camera onto
265
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is, in essence, a documentation,
266
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- man: Brother to brother,
brother to brother,
267
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- men: Brother to brother,
brother to brother,
268
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Brother to brother,
brother to brother,
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Brother to brother,
brother to brother,
270
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Brother to brother,
brother to brother,
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Brother to brother,
brother to brother,
272
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Brother to brother,
brother to brother,
273
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Brother to brother,
brother to brother,
274
00:30:21,782 --> 00:30:23,159
- man: Brother to brother,
brother to brother,
275
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Brother to brother,
brother to brother,
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- men: Brother to brother,
brother to brother,
277
00:30:26,787 --> 00:30:29,332
- man: Something very
powerful about sitting in a dark theater
278
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with a few hundred people, mostly
strangers, and the audience,
279
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though they are not realty communicating with
each other,
280
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they do affect each other and-and
it becomes sort of a collective force,
281
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Moore on film: I asked
Corporal Henderson
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of the United States Marine Corps
to join me on Capitol Hill
283
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to see how many members
of Congress we could convince
284
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to enlist their children
to go to Iraq,
285
00:30:54,982 --> 00:30:56,275
Congressman?
286
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Michael Moore--
How are you doing?
287
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- How are you today?
- Good, good,
288
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I'm trying to get
members of Congress
289
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to get their kids to enlist in the army
and go over to Iraq,
290
00:31:06,077 --> 00:31:07,328
Congressman?
291
00:31:07,995 --> 00:31:09,789
Congressman--
Congressman?
292
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Congressman Doolittle,
293
00:31:10,956 --> 00:31:11,957
Michael Moore,
294
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- Oh, no...
- I'm wondering if...
295
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- I believe movies, especially documentaries
296
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should have a point of view
and the filmmaker should be honest
297
00:31:18,547 --> 00:31:20,466
about their point of view,
298
00:31:20,549 --> 00:31:21,717
Should believe in something,
299
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If I was making a movie about
women getting the right to vote,
300
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you know, well, Mike,
you didn't--
301
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You didn't put in those people that thought
women shouldn't be voting,
302
00:31:29,558 --> 00:31:31,227
Yeah, that's right,
303
00:31:31,310 --> 00:31:32,603
- woman: Paco,
304
00:31:32,686 --> 00:31:33,938
Raymond,
305
00:31:35,106 --> 00:31:37,733
T-Tania...
Todd,
306
00:31:37,817 --> 00:31:40,444
- man: I consider my documentaries
to be dramatic films,
307
00:31:42,613 --> 00:31:44,615
What's the theme of the film?
308
00:31:45,408 --> 00:31:47,034
What's the heartbeat
of the film?
309
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,162
- Man: You know, we forget that
someday, this is gonna be over,
310
00:31:52,123 --> 00:31:54,667
Someday, there's gonna be
no such thing as AIDS,
311
00:31:54,750 --> 00:31:56,710
- man: Our most precious jewel,
312
00:31:56,794 --> 00:31:59,130
- woman: John,
- man: Our most beautiful son,
313
00:32:00,464 --> 00:32:01,715
John Anthony,
314
00:32:01,799 --> 00:32:02,967
- woman: Johnny boy,
- man: Johnny boy,
315
00:32:03,050 --> 00:32:08,931
- If it works as a story,
if it engages the viewer, um,
316
00:32:09,014 --> 00:32:14,520
if it makes sense to the viewer, if it moves the
viewer, informs, uh,
317
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I want it to work
for anybody who sees it,
318
00:32:17,940 --> 00:32:20,276
- man: And we love him so much,
319
00:32:21,819 --> 00:32:23,154
We love him so much,
320
00:32:28,909 --> 00:32:32,371
(distant booming, chatter)
321
00:32:32,455 --> 00:32:36,000
- Man: I didn't drop napalm,
but I dropped other things just as bad,
322
00:32:36,083 --> 00:32:37,084
And people would suffer,
323
00:32:37,168 --> 00:32:39,336
They would-they would live, but they
would suffer, you know,
324
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then often they would die afterwards,
325
00:32:41,213 --> 00:32:43,883
And this would cause people to
have to take care of them, you know?
326
00:32:45,551 --> 00:32:49,096
But I look at my children now
327
00:32:49,180 --> 00:32:53,267
and, uh, I don't know what
would happen if--
328
00:32:54,810 --> 00:32:58,522
what I would think
about if someone napalmed...
329
00:33:07,698 --> 00:33:10,618
(loud chatter)
330
00:33:10,701 --> 00:33:13,329
- Moore: Some of the great films that were
documentaries that I saw
331
00:33:13,412 --> 00:33:17,082
were very inspiring because I saw
things that I couldn't see anyplace else,
332
00:33:21,420 --> 00:33:22,755
- Jagger: Come on now!
333
00:33:23,214 --> 00:33:24,965
Everybody, just cool out!
334
00:33:27,134 --> 00:33:29,053
(banging)
335
00:33:32,515 --> 00:33:34,350
- You okay, Jim?
- Yes, Johnny!
336
00:33:34,433 --> 00:33:35,684
- Huh?
337
00:33:36,894 --> 00:33:38,562
What are you doing, Jim?
338
00:33:53,869 --> 00:33:55,704
- Woman: What do you do
for a living, Jason?
339
00:33:55,788 --> 00:33:56,830
- I hustle,
340
00:33:56,914 --> 00:33:58,165
(laughing)
341
00:33:59,500 --> 00:34:00,834
I'm a stone whore,
342
00:34:03,504 --> 00:34:05,256
And I'm not
ashamed of it,
343
00:34:43,377 --> 00:34:46,297
- man: Of course, we are challenging
nature itself,
344
00:34:46,380 --> 00:34:47,715
And it hits back,
345
00:34:48,215 --> 00:34:50,217
It just hits back, that's all,
346
00:34:50,426 --> 00:34:53,470
And I wouldn't see anything
"erotical" here,
347
00:34:53,554 --> 00:34:56,724
I would see fornication
and asphyxiation and choking
348
00:34:57,808 --> 00:35:02,521
and fighting for survival
and growing and...
349
00:35:04,356 --> 00:35:05,899
Just rotting away,
350
00:35:07,943 --> 00:35:10,029
(gun firing)
351
00:35:15,326 --> 00:35:16,577
(thudding)
352
00:35:17,620 --> 00:35:19,246
- Man: You don't remember?
353
00:35:19,330 --> 00:35:20,831
- This isn't a deposition, sir,
354
00:35:20,914 --> 00:35:22,541
I was polite enough to
give you time,
355
00:35:22,625 --> 00:35:24,251
Foolishly, I now see,
356
00:35:24,335 --> 00:35:26,003
You have
three more minutes,
357
00:35:26,503 --> 00:35:27,755
Give it your best shot,
358
00:35:41,060 --> 00:35:45,856
- Moore: I don't have a lot of, uh, highfalutin
hopes for movies
359
00:35:45,939 --> 00:35:48,692
or anything, realty,
changing the world these days,
360
00:35:48,776 --> 00:35:50,402
although I-I do remain
an optimist,
361
00:35:52,404 --> 00:35:53,656
- woman: Excuse me,
362
00:35:54,573 --> 00:35:55,824
Excuse me,
363
00:35:56,659 --> 00:35:58,661
Uh, where are you
guys going?
364
00:35:58,744 --> 00:36:00,371
- We're going
up to the 14th floor,
365
00:36:00,454 --> 00:36:01,705
- Do you have an appointment?
366
00:36:01,789 --> 00:36:03,415
- No, we're gonna try and
see Roger Smith,
367
00:36:03,499 --> 00:36:04,792
- No, you're not,
368
00:36:04,875 --> 00:36:06,669
You're not gonna get
on one of those elevators,
369
00:36:06,752 --> 00:36:07,753
- Why is that?
370
00:36:07,836 --> 00:36:10,130
- If you don't have an appointment, you're not
going up to 14,
371
00:36:10,214 --> 00:36:11,632
- Well, can we go up and
try and make an appointment?
372
00:36:11,715 --> 00:36:12,758
- No,
373
00:36:12,841 --> 00:36:14,093
- Why?
374
00:36:14,927 --> 00:36:16,595
- I need Tony
or Denise,
375
00:36:17,096 --> 00:36:19,723
- And the reason to talk
to Roger Smith would be?
376
00:36:19,807 --> 00:36:20,933
- Uh, Michael Moore,
377
00:36:21,016 --> 00:36:23,602
- No, what's your reason for
seeing Roger Smith?
378
00:36:23,686 --> 00:36:25,562
- Excuse me, I need to see you,
- Um, we're doing--
379
00:36:25,646 --> 00:36:27,564
We're making a film,
380
00:36:29,274 --> 00:36:33,445
Cinema is a way to sort of--
to take a look at the world
381
00:36:33,529 --> 00:36:40,411
in which we live and make
it writ large so that the audience
382
00:36:40,494 --> 00:36:42,663
watching the film
becomes part of it,
383
00:36:44,748 --> 00:36:47,084
And they do become part of it,
384
00:36:56,343 --> 00:36:58,470
- People used to talk
to me about "Z" so much,
385
00:36:58,554 --> 00:36:59,888
almost 45 years ago,
386
00:37:01,056 --> 00:37:04,560
The fact that the few
movies succeed, survive,
387
00:37:04,643 --> 00:37:07,187
I think the only explanation I have
388
00:37:07,271 --> 00:37:12,067
is that the director and
the actors and everybody
389
00:37:12,151 --> 00:37:14,278
give so much passion to
make that movie
390
00:37:14,361 --> 00:37:16,572
and its passion remains, survives,
391
00:37:16,655 --> 00:37:21,577
Everyone finally has a vision of
the movie, has a vision of the scene,
392
00:37:21,660 --> 00:37:24,705
so the important thing is to bring everybody to
go to the director's vision,
393
00:37:26,790 --> 00:37:30,252
We don't do in a kind of political
speech or university speech,
394
00:37:31,587 --> 00:37:33,589
I would like the audience
to feel it much more than see it,
395
00:37:37,676 --> 00:37:40,971
I believe the story's most important,
with a good style, of course,
396
00:37:42,222 --> 00:37:45,350
(exploding, crashing)
397
00:38:15,964 --> 00:38:17,216
(shouting)
398
00:38:28,769 --> 00:38:31,772
- Photography does
not create eternity as art does,
399
00:38:31,855 --> 00:38:35,192
It embalms time, rescuing it simply
from its proper corruption,
400
00:38:36,235 --> 00:38:40,280
Viewed in this perspective,
the cinema is objectivity and time,
401
00:38:41,156 --> 00:38:42,741
(gun firing)
402
00:38:49,081 --> 00:38:51,375
(gun firing)
403
00:38:53,544 --> 00:38:57,422
For the French film critic André Bazin, the
invention of photography
404
00:38:57,506 --> 00:39:02,261
and cinema were revolutionary because
for the first time in human history,
405
00:39:02,344 --> 00:39:08,016
we could record and therefore capture and hold
an actual moment in time,
406
00:39:09,184 --> 00:39:10,435
(flapping)
407
00:39:12,271 --> 00:39:14,731
For him, this was
revolutionary, not least because,
408
00:39:14,815 --> 00:39:19,403
even though a director chooses
what to film,
409
00:39:19,486 --> 00:39:24,616
can put the film images in any
order and then alter them in any way,
410
00:39:24,741 --> 00:39:30,914
nonetheless, there is that direct contact with an
original moment in time,
411
00:39:35,002 --> 00:39:40,215
And for Bazin, what we see
on screen only exists in relation
412
00:39:40,299 --> 00:39:42,759
to everything that's
not on screen,
413
00:39:45,971 --> 00:39:48,682
Cinema suggests
as much as it reveals,
414
00:39:51,768 --> 00:39:53,020
(horn honking)
415
00:40:02,613 --> 00:40:04,156
(grunting, thudding)
416
00:40:08,535 --> 00:40:10,078
- So, finally you watch
the movie,
417
00:40:10,162 --> 00:40:12,331
There is nothing--
you create the universe,
418
00:40:12,414 --> 00:40:13,665
(gun fires)
419
00:40:16,043 --> 00:40:17,753
The movie is not reality,
420
00:40:17,836 --> 00:40:20,505
It's based on the real,
but it's not reality,
421
00:40:20,589 --> 00:40:24,134
The art's... much
too longer, much too complex,
422
00:40:24,217 --> 00:40:27,387
The important thing is to give the audience the
elements
423
00:40:27,471 --> 00:40:28,639
they can understand the story
424
00:40:28,722 --> 00:40:29,973
and what
the story is meaning,
425
00:40:39,608 --> 00:40:41,902
So, the way you do it
I don't really know,
426
00:40:44,071 --> 00:40:45,781
(chuckling)
427
00:40:45,864 --> 00:40:47,115
I don't know,
428
00:40:59,419 --> 00:41:04,967
- Man: He is totally trusting
himself and the material,
429
00:41:06,343 --> 00:41:10,013
He winds up with some of
the greatest footage ever shot,
430
00:41:26,071 --> 00:41:31,660
He was using that horribly misunderstood word,
"film style,"
431
00:41:31,743 --> 00:41:34,496
and that takes such courage
432
00:41:34,579 --> 00:41:37,541
and such wisdom
433
00:41:37,624 --> 00:41:39,876
and such security,
434
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,294
He trusts the audience,
435
00:41:53,932 --> 00:41:58,729
The oversaturation of
the color applies to all of the work,
436
00:42:00,605 --> 00:42:03,025
There's an oversaturation in performance,
437
00:42:25,172 --> 00:42:26,840
We're changed by great work,
438
00:42:27,507 --> 00:42:30,469
So you see "Ran" because you're exposed to
something
439
00:42:31,970 --> 00:42:34,639
that's as good
as a movie can get,
440
00:44:44,186 --> 00:44:45,437
(gasping)
441
00:47:43,156 --> 00:47:45,075
(waves crashing)
442
00:47:47,077 --> 00:47:52,415
- Ideally, the audience can look at a film,
emotionally get the whole thing
443
00:47:52,499 --> 00:47:55,835
and, uh, not necessarily be
able to explain it to somebody else,
444
00:47:57,754 --> 00:47:59,172
You know what it means, but
you can't articulate it,
445
00:48:01,216 --> 00:48:02,759
After I see a film,
446
00:48:02,842 --> 00:48:04,677
I say,
how do they do that?
447
00:48:04,761 --> 00:48:06,262
I don't know how
it gets done,
448
00:48:08,681 --> 00:48:10,683
(wind rushing)
449
00:48:15,355 --> 00:48:16,815
- Woman: Kiss my hot lips!
450
00:48:16,898 --> 00:48:17,899
- Man: Oh, hot...
451
00:48:18,525 --> 00:48:19,776
- Lips?
452
00:48:19,859 --> 00:48:21,736
Hot... Hot lips?
453
00:48:21,820 --> 00:48:24,197
- We have got to share this with
the rest of this camp,
454
00:48:25,490 --> 00:48:26,908
- Altman: There's a word that's in
the director's manual,
455
00:48:26,991 --> 00:48:28,243
it says "action,"
456
00:48:29,035 --> 00:48:33,873
I don't restrict the actors and I allow them to do
what they can do
457
00:48:33,957 --> 00:48:36,042
or what they will
do, in fact, I insist on it
458
00:48:36,126 --> 00:48:38,336
and I don't restrict their
performance,
459
00:48:38,420 --> 00:48:39,671
(Echoing)
- Frank!
460
00:48:39,754 --> 00:48:41,089
Wait a second!
461
00:48:41,172 --> 00:48:43,508
- What is it?
- Turn the light on!
462
00:48:44,217 --> 00:48:46,219
No, that's wrong--
turn it off,
463
00:48:50,473 --> 00:48:53,226
- Altman: When we started film,
we took it from theater,
464
00:48:53,309 --> 00:48:56,646
literature and we were an
extension of another art form,
465
00:49:01,151 --> 00:49:05,321
It's still that way, it's getting away
from it and I think that eventually,
466
00:49:05,405 --> 00:49:08,575
somebody will make
a film that is purely a film
467
00:49:08,658 --> 00:49:12,412
and the audience can respond to as such
and I don't think it's been done,
468
00:49:12,495 --> 00:49:14,164
- But I'm easy
469
00:49:15,290 --> 00:49:16,958
Yeah I'm easy
470
00:49:18,126 --> 00:49:20,837
Take my hand
and pull me down
471
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,632
I won't put up any fight
because I'm easy
472
00:49:26,801 --> 00:49:28,052
Easy
473
00:49:29,429 --> 00:49:31,931
Give the word I'll play your game
474
00:49:32,015 --> 00:49:34,726
As though that's
how it ought to be
475
00:49:34,809 --> 00:49:38,980
Because I'm easy
(clapping)
476
00:49:39,063 --> 00:49:40,815
- Altman: I've always said
that making a film
477
00:49:40,899 --> 00:49:43,318
is like making a
sandcastle at the beach,
478
00:49:44,277 --> 00:49:47,989
You invite your friends and you get 'em
down there and you say,
479
00:49:48,072 --> 00:49:51,409
you build this beautiful
structure and have a drink,
480
00:49:51,493 --> 00:49:55,872
watch the tide come in and
the ocean just takes it away,
481
00:49:55,955 --> 00:49:58,291
and that sandcastle remains
in your mind,
482
00:50:00,210 --> 00:50:01,878
(dog barking)
483
00:50:05,798 --> 00:50:08,259
- Can we talk about something
other than Hollywood for a change?
484
00:50:08,343 --> 00:50:09,344
- Woman: Yes,
- woman: Yes,
485
00:50:09,427 --> 00:50:10,428
- We're educated people,
- woman: Yeah,
486
00:50:10,512 --> 00:50:11,846
- man: Sure,
- woman: Sure,
487
00:50:13,973 --> 00:50:15,225
- (laughing)
488
00:50:33,826 --> 00:50:38,373
- In this particular piece,
as in a lot of my work,
489
00:50:38,456 --> 00:50:40,458
quite a bit of my work...
490
00:50:41,251 --> 00:50:46,965
People are really
feeling a deep emotion, uh,
491
00:50:47,048 --> 00:50:51,886
from the experience
that's going on on the screen,
492
00:50:51,970 --> 00:50:56,099
and what's going on on the screen
right now is, uh,
493
00:50:56,182 --> 00:51:00,645
an image of a
mother and her children
494
00:51:00,728 --> 00:51:06,901
walking through, uh, some kind of barrier
and coming into our world,
495
00:51:06,985 --> 00:51:11,948
and then, of course, which is
the fate of all of us, they have to go back,
496
00:51:12,031 --> 00:51:16,744
They have to go back to
the dark gray side, uh,
497
00:51:16,828 --> 00:51:19,289
and go back
from where they came
498
00:51:19,372 --> 00:51:22,834
and that's basically,
uh, our existence,
499
00:51:22,917 --> 00:51:24,877
That's how
we live in this world,
500
00:51:28,548 --> 00:51:31,426
Cinema is the preservation
of a memory,
501
00:51:31,509 --> 00:51:34,178
Cinema is the inability
to remember without assistance,
502
00:51:36,556 --> 00:51:39,309
Cinema is the preservation
of the moment
503
00:51:39,392 --> 00:51:42,061
by slicing up
its parts into small pieces,
504
00:51:42,979 --> 00:51:47,150
Cinema is an image that moves
too fast to be seen,
505
00:51:47,233 --> 00:51:49,193
but just fast
enough to be believed,
506
00:51:51,487 --> 00:51:56,451
Cinema is a series of frozen moments that might
wake up,
507
00:51:59,621 --> 00:52:03,541
For me, art exists
on the fine line of knowing
508
00:52:03,625 --> 00:52:07,170
and not knowing and a lot of
artists make a mistake,
509
00:52:07,253 --> 00:52:13,509
myself included, that you're a
little too timid to sort of go all the way
510
00:52:13,593 --> 00:52:19,599
uh, and for me, uh, my life has been changed by
the times
511
00:52:19,682 --> 00:52:22,685
when something in
my mind, something in my head,
512
00:52:23,019 --> 00:52:27,815
something in my heart just told me
to just take that other step,
513
00:52:27,899 --> 00:52:29,192
The one that
you don't wanna take,
514
00:52:34,906 --> 00:52:36,449
I don't connect the dots,
515
00:52:36,532 --> 00:52:41,329
I like things that grow
sort of like the way plants grow
516
00:52:41,412 --> 00:52:45,291
and they just take you and
intertwine and move,
517
00:52:45,375 --> 00:52:48,002
sometimes inside you
and out of you and that,
518
00:52:48,086 --> 00:52:51,005
to me, is how I make my work,
519
00:52:51,089 --> 00:52:53,508
Very often sometimes, I don't
even know what I'm doing
520
00:52:53,591 --> 00:52:55,343
and-and I guess I
kind of like it that way,
521
00:53:00,848 --> 00:53:03,559
The natural world is
unpredictable,
522
00:53:03,643 --> 00:53:07,313
We will never, ever find
a place where it's absolutely nice
523
00:53:10,191 --> 00:53:12,819
and neat and tidy, it doesn't
work like that,
524
00:53:12,902 --> 00:53:17,699
And that's, I think, is the
difference between artists and people
525
00:53:17,782 --> 00:53:20,076
that don't make that leap
into the unknown,
526
00:53:22,704 --> 00:53:26,666
I have to have an idea, you have
to have a way, you have to have a path,
527
00:53:26,749 --> 00:53:28,084
That's all realty important,
528
00:53:28,459 --> 00:53:30,920
You have to have technique,
you have to do all of these things,
529
00:53:31,003 --> 00:53:34,841
But in the end, it's gonna realty
happen when you let go,
530
00:53:34,924 --> 00:53:37,176
and let go--
letting go, you fall,
531
00:53:37,260 --> 00:53:40,096
and you didn't look to see if there
were rocks on the bottom
532
00:53:40,179 --> 00:53:43,474
that you might crush
your head on, you just jump,
533
00:53:50,940 --> 00:53:54,736
So much to do when video started and nobody
really knew it very well
534
00:53:54,819 --> 00:53:57,488
so everybody was
trying to figure it out
535
00:53:57,572 --> 00:54:00,616
and everybody was trying to, you know,
understand it better,
536
00:54:00,700 --> 00:54:03,703
but in the end, realty, what
you're realty trying to understand
537
00:54:03,786 --> 00:54:07,290
is yourself, your place
in the world,
538
00:54:08,541 --> 00:54:09,876
What moves you honestly?
539
00:54:11,836 --> 00:54:13,463
- Madam,
540
00:54:13,546 --> 00:54:14,797
This is best,
541
00:54:15,757 --> 00:54:19,010
- Viola: Not, you know, what you saw
someone do or a cool movie you saw
542
00:54:19,093 --> 00:54:23,473
but something realty deep inside you that comes
from a very deep place,
543
00:57:01,172 --> 00:57:04,008
(waves crashing)
544
00:57:13,976 --> 00:57:15,519
(ship's horn blowing)
545
00:57:34,830 --> 00:57:36,374
(ship's horn blowing)
546
00:58:14,662 --> 00:58:18,749
- Hoberman: The first motion pictures
were minute-long actualities,
547
00:58:20,626 --> 00:58:25,339
And basically, the special effect, or
the attraction was the motion picture,
548
00:58:25,423 --> 00:58:28,759
the moving picture, the idea
of a photograph that moved,
549
00:58:35,766 --> 00:58:38,811
- Man: Mr, Ford, you made a picture
called "3 Bad Men,"
550
00:58:38,894 --> 00:58:40,604
and you had a quite
elaborate land rush in it,
551
00:58:40,688 --> 00:58:42,356
How did you shoot that?
552
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:43,816
- Ford: With a camera,
553
00:58:45,026 --> 00:58:48,154
- It's interesting to see them lined
up as museum pieces,
554
00:58:48,237 --> 00:58:51,949
because... that's-
that's what they are,
555
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,043
- Everybody senses that there's
a big change going on,
556
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,172
Nobody knows what it
is and I certainty don't know,
557
00:59:08,424 --> 00:59:10,426
I'm gonna be a part
of the past,
558
00:59:12,386 --> 00:59:13,804
(crashing)
559
00:59:30,154 --> 00:59:33,491
- Hoberman: It's going to become an
increasingly digitally produced medium,
560
00:59:34,158 --> 00:59:36,577
It's neither good nor bad,
It just-- it just is,
561
00:59:37,828 --> 00:59:39,080
- Get away,
562
00:59:39,163 --> 00:59:40,414
(screams)
563
00:59:41,457 --> 00:59:42,541
(screaming)
564
00:59:43,876 --> 00:59:46,295
- What's changed, I think,
is the nature of the audience
565
00:59:46,378 --> 00:59:49,715
and the parameters of
the movie industry,
566
00:59:50,633 --> 00:59:54,929
It's much harder for a
certain kind of film to be made,
567
00:59:55,012 --> 00:59:57,014
not just in Hollywood,
but anywhere,
568
00:59:57,598 --> 01:00:02,478
I still think that very
talented and gifted individuals
569
01:00:02,561 --> 01:00:05,106
are engrossed in the medium
570
01:00:05,189 --> 01:00:06,690
and, you know,
the most interesting films
571
01:00:06,774 --> 01:00:08,234
all come from the periphery,
572
01:00:15,908 --> 01:00:18,619
- Everybody knows
a lot about film now,
573
01:00:18,702 --> 01:00:21,372
whether they are aware
of it or not,
574
01:00:22,123 --> 01:00:26,710
And so it's nice to be able
to deconstruct those things a little bit
575
01:00:26,794 --> 01:00:28,087
or play with them
576
01:00:28,170 --> 01:00:29,755
so you're not in a trance-like
state of, like,
577
01:00:29,839 --> 01:00:34,760
I know what I'm-- I
know what I came for and I will get that,
578
01:00:36,387 --> 01:00:39,557
My films are more sunk in the mundane and the
day-to-day,
579
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:45,980
From the beginning, we know
we're gonna have limited resources,
580
01:00:46,063 --> 01:00:49,400
so I'm always looking for stories,
that are mostly exteriors,
581
01:00:50,234 --> 01:00:51,485
I like shooting on location,
582
01:00:52,903 --> 01:00:54,405
And it's Oregon,
so we're usually in the rain,
583
01:00:56,532 --> 01:00:59,535
I live a completely unadventurous life except for
when we're making a film,
584
01:01:02,288 --> 01:01:05,332
You know, you're definitely
on an adventure with these people
585
01:01:05,416 --> 01:01:06,917
that you're with,
586
01:01:08,502 --> 01:01:10,588
- man: It's like climbing a mountain,
587
01:01:10,671 --> 01:01:14,383
Look around, you see trees
and rocks and bushes,
588
01:01:14,466 --> 01:01:17,678
pressing around you and
then you get above the tree line,
589
01:01:17,761 --> 01:01:20,181
you see everything you just went through and it
all, like,
590
01:01:20,264 --> 01:01:21,765
comes together,
591
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:25,853
- Hey--
What's going on?
592
01:01:27,688 --> 01:01:29,023
- Man: Just relax, man,
593
01:01:30,441 --> 01:01:34,778
- Reichardt: "Old Joy" was a crew
of six, including the actors,
594
01:01:34,862 --> 01:01:36,405
They had to be
crew people, too,
595
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,159
I had paid for that
film myself,
596
01:01:40,242 --> 01:01:42,077
You know, I had
everybody for two weeks
597
01:01:42,161 --> 01:01:45,664
and we just sort of went into
the woods to make this...
598
01:01:45,748 --> 01:01:47,041
whatever it was gonna be,
599
01:01:47,917 --> 01:01:50,920
The frailty of the production
really always does mirror
600
01:01:51,337 --> 01:01:53,005
the frailty of what's happening,
601
01:01:53,255 --> 01:01:54,548
(knocking)
602
01:01:55,591 --> 01:01:59,386
With "Wendy and Lucy," if she
makes one mistake, she's done for,
603
01:01:59,470 --> 01:02:01,972
She doesn't have a net,
we don't have a net,
604
01:02:02,056 --> 01:02:03,182
- You can't
sleep here, ma'am,
605
01:02:03,265 --> 01:02:06,352
- Reichardt: It's putting the audience
in the situation she's in,
606
01:02:06,435 --> 01:02:09,772
There's a lot of themes
about society and tough times
607
01:02:10,397 --> 01:02:13,234
and also, it's also
about aloneness,
608
01:02:20,282 --> 01:02:22,785
To me, the ideal would be,
you know,
609
01:02:22,868 --> 01:02:25,120
you leave the theater with
someone you saw the movie
610
01:02:25,204 --> 01:02:28,249
with you and you both take
away a different idea
611
01:02:28,332 --> 01:02:30,334
and it's not all so conclusive
612
01:02:30,417 --> 01:02:34,171
that it's just
completely handed to you,
613
01:02:36,715 --> 01:02:38,968
I'm here in my little
editing room,
614
01:02:39,051 --> 01:02:43,055
Nobody says anything that I
have to do anything or follow anything,
615
01:02:44,431 --> 01:02:46,058
I'm realty grateful for it,
616
01:02:46,141 --> 01:02:50,604
but it's what I tell myself when, um...
(laughs)
617
01:02:50,688 --> 01:02:56,235
I want more time to shoot
and you know, more of everything,
618
01:02:58,612 --> 01:03:02,574
- Independent film means films made with no
interference whatever,
619
01:03:02,658 --> 01:03:04,410
with total creative freedom,
620
01:03:04,493 --> 01:03:09,623
with absolute, um, integrity
621
01:03:09,707 --> 01:03:12,918
uh, and no committees
of any kind
622
01:03:13,002 --> 01:03:16,005
e-e-exerting any kind of
pressure on form or content,
623
01:03:17,589 --> 01:03:20,676
(both arguing loudly)
624
01:03:22,094 --> 01:03:26,682
- Leigh: I'm concerned with,
um, with the-the very substance,
625
01:03:26,765 --> 01:03:30,936
the sort of tangible nuances of
how we are behaviorally,
626
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,940
(grunting)
627
01:03:36,066 --> 01:03:37,609
People say, well,
what of the subject?
628
01:03:37,693 --> 01:03:40,738
You know, there's a guy sitting here,
the sound recordist--
629
01:03:40,821 --> 01:03:42,406
There's immediately a story there,
630
01:03:42,489 --> 01:03:45,784
I want to know who he is, where
he's from, what he had for breakfast,
631
01:03:45,868 --> 01:03:47,453
what his relationships
are about,
632
01:03:47,536 --> 01:03:49,872
You know, there's a movie and there's
a guy sitting over there in the corner,
633
01:03:49,955 --> 01:03:51,165
and there's another movie,
634
01:03:51,248 --> 01:03:52,916
or it's the same movie,
I don't know,
635
01:03:56,003 --> 01:03:57,421
- Woman: Johnny!
- Leigh: Life is out there
636
01:03:57,504 --> 01:04:01,425
to capture and explore and distill
637
01:04:01,508 --> 01:04:04,219
and, uh, be that mirror
that we hold up,
638
01:04:06,972 --> 01:04:07,973
- Where are you going, Johnny?
639
01:04:08,057 --> 01:04:09,516
- You're off your head,
- I'm coming with you,
640
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:10,976
- No, you're not,
- I want to come with you!
641
01:04:11,060 --> 01:04:12,353
- Don't you fucking
come with me,
642
01:04:14,772 --> 01:04:17,232
- Are you coming back?
- Johnny: What the fuck for?
643
01:04:25,157 --> 01:04:27,076
- Don't stop!
644
01:04:27,159 --> 01:04:28,494
- What about dinner?
- What?
645
01:04:29,828 --> 01:04:31,538
- I can't eat
no more, I'm full up,
646
01:04:31,622 --> 01:04:32,956
- It's not a joke!
647
01:04:33,540 --> 01:04:34,792
- I'm gonna puke,
648
01:04:36,126 --> 01:04:37,628
- Weak,
649
01:04:39,630 --> 01:04:43,300
- The main subject with my films
is characters and their relationships,
650
01:04:46,470 --> 01:04:51,475
The shoot has to be preceded by a substantial
chunk of time
651
01:04:51,558 --> 01:04:54,686
through which you
discover what the piece of work is,
652
01:04:54,770 --> 01:04:55,896
(phone ringing)
653
01:04:55,979 --> 01:04:58,524
- In the rehearsal process
of "Secrets and Lies,
654
01:04:58,607 --> 01:05:03,487
we had built the backstory,
as we do with all the characters,
655
01:05:03,570 --> 01:05:08,283
of the central protagonist, Cynthia, played by
Brenda Blethyn,
656
01:05:08,367 --> 01:05:09,368
- Hello?
657
01:05:09,451 --> 01:05:10,953
- Is that Cynthia Purley?
658
01:05:11,036 --> 01:05:12,287
- Yes,
659
01:05:12,371 --> 01:05:13,705
- Of 76 Quota Street?
660
01:05:14,748 --> 01:05:16,959
- Is-- What is
it you want, darling?
661
01:05:17,042 --> 01:05:18,752
- It's about Elizabeth,
662
01:05:18,836 --> 01:05:20,087
- Elizabeth--
Elizabeth who?
663
01:05:20,671 --> 01:05:24,383
- Baby Elizabeth Purley,
664
01:05:24,466 --> 01:05:26,510
- Leigh: The premise of how
I get all these things happening
665
01:05:26,593 --> 01:05:29,721
is that nobody knows anything
about any of the other action
666
01:05:29,805 --> 01:05:31,682
or characters except what
their character would know,
667
01:05:32,808 --> 01:05:34,643
(retching, phone ringing)
668
01:05:34,726 --> 01:05:39,064
- She and I had decided that,
uh, when this girl, woman, was 16,
669
01:05:41,650 --> 01:05:47,030
she was very, very vulnerable and
very, um, susceptible to guys
670
01:05:47,114 --> 01:05:51,743
and was mistreated
and exploited by guys,
671
01:05:53,912 --> 01:05:56,415
- I mean, I can't be your
mother, can I?
672
01:05:56,498 --> 01:05:59,334
- Why not?
- Well, look at me,
673
01:05:59,418 --> 01:06:00,669
- What?
674
01:06:00,752 --> 01:06:03,255
- Listen, I don't
mean nothing by it, darling,
675
01:06:03,338 --> 01:06:06,049
but I ain't never been with
a black man in my life,
676
01:06:06,133 --> 01:06:07,468
No disrespect nor nothing,
677
01:06:09,428 --> 01:06:11,221
I'd have remembered,
wouldn't I?
678
01:06:12,890 --> 01:06:15,517
- Leigh: We had decided
that she'd gone to a party,
679
01:06:15,601 --> 01:06:19,229
she'd had too much to drink and
she'd gone with a black guy,
680
01:06:20,647 --> 01:06:23,150
She had a fuck with
a black guy in the bathroom,
681
01:06:24,276 --> 01:06:26,278
- Oh, bloody hell,
682
01:06:27,029 --> 01:06:31,450
- We'd invented the fact that she'd had a baby
and she'd given that baby away,
683
01:06:31,533 --> 01:06:35,454
- Oh, Jesus Christ almighty!
684
01:06:36,330 --> 01:06:38,499
(crying)
685
01:06:38,582 --> 01:06:39,833
- She'd forgotten,
686
01:06:39,917 --> 01:06:43,086
Brenda Blethyn, the actress,
had forgotten that moment,
687
01:06:43,170 --> 01:06:47,341
So the shock that this woman was claiming to
be her daughter was,
688
01:06:47,424 --> 01:06:48,884
she actually
experienced it for real,
689
01:06:48,967 --> 01:06:51,136
- I'm sorry...
I'm sorry,
690
01:07:00,312 --> 01:07:02,314
I'm so ashamed,
691
01:07:04,066 --> 01:07:08,737
- I had never saw a film
that wasn't in English 'til I was 17,
692
01:07:09,988 --> 01:07:12,282
Suddenly, I discovered
world cinema,
693
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,745
Suddenly, in one
explosive moment, it was all going on,
694
01:07:20,958 --> 01:07:24,795
You can't look at any of my work
695
01:07:24,878 --> 01:07:27,548
and say it's obviously
influenced by "The Seventh Seal",,,
696
01:07:30,092 --> 01:07:32,928
But "The Seventh Seal" was a
revelation at that time,
697
01:07:33,971 --> 01:07:35,764
(laughing)
698
01:07:35,847 --> 01:07:39,393
- You keep on rowing,
I'll keep on smiling,
699
01:07:39,476 --> 01:07:43,480
- Leigh: I see the world as being
deeply tragic and hilariously comic,
700
01:07:46,942 --> 01:07:48,443
And I actually like watching
my films,
701
01:07:48,527 --> 01:07:52,239
There are film directors who-- who
can't bear to watch their own films,
702
01:07:52,322 --> 01:07:54,491
Beats me how they expect
you to enjoy them,
703
01:08:03,375 --> 01:08:07,421
My films are very much not only
about people, but there are about place,
704
01:08:07,504 --> 01:08:11,258
Homes, of rooms, of things,
of clothes,
705
01:08:11,341 --> 01:08:13,885
About... time passing,
706
01:08:15,387 --> 01:08:17,472
At the last scene
of "Happy-Go-Lucky"
707
01:08:17,556 --> 01:08:20,517
when the two protagonists are
in a rowing boat,
708
01:08:20,601 --> 01:08:23,770
you analyze it, there's
something liberating about it
709
01:08:23,854 --> 01:08:26,231
and philosophical, they are
being philosophical,
710
01:08:26,857 --> 01:08:29,401
All kinds of magical things
happened and we did six takes
711
01:08:29,484 --> 01:08:33,280
and the one take that we used has got the birds
flying through it,
712
01:08:35,115 --> 01:08:36,533
And that is cinema,
713
01:08:36,617 --> 01:08:37,618
You want to
know what is cinema?
714
01:08:37,701 --> 01:08:38,952
That is cinema,
715
01:08:41,788 --> 01:08:44,374
(soft scraping)
716
01:08:54,176 --> 01:08:58,096
- Woman: Cinema is a matter of what's in
the frame and what's out,
717
01:08:58,180 --> 01:08:59,431
(thumping)
718
01:09:00,349 --> 01:09:04,519
- Man: Cinema is writing with images
and movement and with sounds,
719
01:09:07,356 --> 01:09:09,316
- woman: Images and sounds,
720
01:09:09,399 --> 01:09:11,443
like people who make
acquaintance on a train
721
01:09:11,526 --> 01:09:13,362
and afterwards cannot separate,
722
01:09:14,363 --> 01:09:15,989
(train whistle blowing)
723
01:09:18,241 --> 01:09:21,578
- Man: An image is transformed by
contact with another image,
724
01:09:22,245 --> 01:09:25,457
as a color is transformed
by contact with another color,
725
01:09:25,540 --> 01:09:26,792
(shattering)
726
01:09:28,502 --> 01:09:31,380
The camera is more
than a recorder,
727
01:09:31,463 --> 01:09:32,714
It's a microscope,
728
01:09:33,590 --> 01:09:34,841
It penetrates,
729
01:09:35,300 --> 01:09:36,677
It goes into people,
730
01:09:44,726 --> 01:09:46,728
- Woman: The essence of cinema
is movement,
731
01:09:52,776 --> 01:09:56,029
- man: The most important
thing in movies is lighting,
732
01:10:03,203 --> 01:10:05,288
- woman: The most important
thing in movies is casting,
733
01:10:10,085 --> 01:10:15,257
- man: We are in a time now
when movies, and more generally, art,
734
01:10:15,340 --> 01:10:21,346
have been lost, do not exist, and
must somehow be reinvented,
735
01:10:25,016 --> 01:10:28,854
Like lost children, we live our
unfinished adventures,
736
01:10:43,493 --> 01:10:46,079
(wind rushing)
737
01:11:03,263 --> 01:11:06,767
(chatter)
738
01:11:15,275 --> 01:11:18,487
- You know, mainstream movies
are generally made in a certain way,
739
01:11:18,570 --> 01:11:20,572
they're supposed to
tell a narrative,
740
01:11:21,990 --> 01:11:24,034
We were very conscious
that we were doing, you know,
741
01:11:24,117 --> 01:11:25,952
an unconventional approach in that way
742
01:11:26,036 --> 01:11:30,332
where there was an
outline for a script
743
01:11:30,415 --> 01:11:34,002
with some line,
just points to kind of hit,
744
01:11:38,673 --> 01:11:39,758
- Press?
745
01:11:39,841 --> 01:11:41,092
Press?
746
01:11:42,135 --> 01:11:43,887
- Man: We'll knock on doors
and make those phone calls!
747
01:11:43,970 --> 01:11:47,390
- Filmmakers can be a little bit
arrogant, so you need to,
748
01:11:47,474 --> 01:11:51,061
sort of, check that at the door
and look outside the viewfinder
749
01:11:51,144 --> 01:11:52,604
and be impacted by
what you see,
750
01:11:52,687 --> 01:11:55,315
- We have an idea in our head
and hopefully, you know,
751
01:11:55,398 --> 01:11:58,568
not too far into it, that
idea changes, and if it doesn't,
752
01:11:58,652 --> 01:11:59,986
maybe we're making
the wrong film,
753
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:05,116
- Okay, guys, we have
Michael Winterbottom-- director,
754
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:06,284
- man: Michael, how are you doing?
755
01:12:06,368 --> 01:12:09,538
- It is a play, it is an experiment,
it's an instinctive thing,
756
01:12:09,621 --> 01:12:13,291
rather than "this will mean this,"
I think, or "this will do this,"
757
01:12:13,375 --> 01:12:17,504
When you're making a film, it's not
like I don't care about the audience at all,
758
01:12:17,587 --> 01:12:19,631
It's not like I want to deliberately
exclude an audience,
759
01:12:19,714 --> 01:12:22,175
but I think as a filmmaker,
you can only make what you like,
760
01:12:22,259 --> 01:12:23,927
you can only make the things
that you find interesting,
761
01:12:30,392 --> 01:12:37,607
- Cinema is the multiple network
of... of technologies and ideas,
762
01:12:42,028 --> 01:12:47,450
And it will continue as
long as humanity will continue,
763
01:13:00,046 --> 01:13:01,631
(siren blares)
764
01:13:32,829 --> 01:13:34,164
- Good evening!
765
01:13:34,247 --> 01:13:35,498
Good to see--
766
01:13:35,582 --> 01:13:36,833
(applause)
No...
767
01:13:36,917 --> 01:13:38,168
(speaking foreign language)
768
01:13:45,425 --> 01:13:48,261
(rattling)
769
01:13:50,764 --> 01:13:52,015
It's like cooking,
770
01:13:52,349 --> 01:13:54,017
It's not so much
different,
771
01:13:54,976 --> 01:13:57,437
You have icebox full of stuff and--
772
01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,940
but you are making one dish,
773
01:14:00,023 --> 01:14:04,194
so you don't just put everything,
you just put what belongs to it,
774
01:14:06,363 --> 01:14:09,032
- man: What advice
would you give to people?
775
01:14:09,950 --> 01:14:12,160
- Never give any advice
to anybody,
776
01:14:12,243 --> 01:14:13,703
(laughing)
777
01:14:13,787 --> 01:14:17,791
- Man: This feels like your last film,
but I assume it isn't,
778
01:14:19,501 --> 01:14:20,752
- No, it's up to you,
779
01:14:20,835 --> 01:14:22,087
(laughing)
780
01:14:26,591 --> 01:14:29,594
What managed to survive
the wars, dictators, fanatics, fires,
781
01:14:32,681 --> 01:14:38,019
is because it's so rare that--
the reality recorded there,
782
01:14:38,603 --> 01:14:41,940
- Viola: Cinema is an artificial
perception looking for an experience,
783
01:14:44,150 --> 01:14:49,364
Cinema is a series of frozen moments that might
wake up,
784
01:14:51,616 --> 01:14:53,201
- Mekas: It's rare--
Special,
785
01:14:53,284 --> 01:14:54,536
Unique,
60293
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