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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:18,523 --> 00:00:20,191 - Man: We have this technology, 4 00:00:22,610 --> 00:00:24,946 But what do you do with it? 5 00:00:28,115 --> 00:00:31,619 You use it all, it's part of the vocabulary 6 00:00:31,702 --> 00:00:36,207 and to catch that truth of that moment, that's the challenge, 7 00:00:48,886 --> 00:00:55,685 - man: What I like is not to arrive at a clear and obvious conclusion, 8 00:00:55,768 --> 00:01:01,607 but to leave you, the audience, stuff to go away and argue about, um, 9 00:01:01,691 --> 00:01:06,237 ponder about, reflect on, rather than for it all to be tied up 10 00:01:06,320 --> 00:01:09,699 so that you can go away and forget the whole thing, 11 00:01:20,209 --> 00:01:23,921 - Man: But sometimes, you'll find that, um, 12 00:01:24,005 --> 00:01:28,009 A film is looked at solely for its content without any regard 13 00:01:29,594 --> 00:01:33,889 to the style or manner in which the story is told, 14 00:01:35,141 --> 00:01:38,686 After all, that basically is the art of the cinema, 15 00:02:00,916 --> 00:02:02,418 (film projector whirring) 16 00:02:14,513 --> 00:02:16,515 - Man: Films, cinema, cinema, it's contagious, 17 00:02:17,725 --> 00:02:20,394 There is something in you that-that-that needs it, 18 00:02:21,187 --> 00:02:23,397 That need-- And you are driven to it, 19 00:02:23,481 --> 00:02:25,483 You-you-you-you're pulled into it, 20 00:02:26,317 --> 00:02:27,818 My drug was movies, 21 00:02:28,986 --> 00:02:35,326 Like reading poetry that makes you want to... to-to also write poetry, 22 00:02:43,668 --> 00:02:50,174 - Humanity, in-in order not to go... go nuts in contemporary civilization, 23 00:02:50,257 --> 00:02:54,970 which is very boring, they need some entertainment, 24 00:02:55,054 --> 00:02:56,681 They need something, 25 00:03:00,393 --> 00:03:01,936 (breathing heavily) 26 00:03:02,019 --> 00:03:04,689 - It's... it's-- They function the same as drugs, 27 00:03:24,583 --> 00:03:26,502 We are almost at the point where it's like a end of a circle 28 00:03:26,585 --> 00:03:31,590 where people used to sit and smoke and relax 29 00:03:31,674 --> 00:03:37,138 and see images that project into that smoke, and now, 30 00:03:37,221 --> 00:03:40,683 after a series of many different technologies, 31 00:03:40,766 --> 00:03:45,104 motion pictures, video, computers, digital, 32 00:03:45,187 --> 00:03:48,524 we are dreaming already about implanting something in the eye, 33 00:03:51,277 --> 00:03:52,653 in the brain, 34 00:03:53,779 --> 00:03:58,325 It's like a big tree with small, tiny branches and-and huge, 35 00:03:58,409 --> 00:04:03,956 huge branches where-- and huge epics and-and little haiku, 36 00:04:19,096 --> 00:04:23,100 The challenge, you see-- of my own challenge and every-- 37 00:04:23,184 --> 00:04:25,978 Everyone to watch in every art 38 00:04:26,061 --> 00:04:29,231 is you just go, like, to-to catch the essence, 39 00:04:30,149 --> 00:04:34,320 You can call it hard, but usually that's an essential moment 40 00:04:34,403 --> 00:04:39,742 that you--that is-- So much in it that you want to go back again and again 41 00:04:41,327 --> 00:04:44,997 to see or to listen or to experience, 42 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:51,378 to help you not to go crazy or to go crazy in some other way, 43 00:04:52,546 --> 00:04:54,799 (bubbling) 44 00:05:09,355 --> 00:05:11,816 (bubbling) 45 00:06:03,492 --> 00:06:05,286 - Man: It's so beautiful, cinema, 46 00:06:08,789 --> 00:06:13,377 Cinema can go deep or it can go shallow 47 00:06:13,460 --> 00:06:19,592 and I think the great films, uh, 48 00:06:19,675 --> 00:06:23,470 tell a story, a surface story, 49 00:06:23,554 --> 00:06:30,144 but the great cinema goes deep into the psyche 50 00:06:30,227 --> 00:06:32,521 and these undercurrents 51 00:06:32,605 --> 00:06:35,065 are caught on deeper levels, 52 00:06:39,278 --> 00:06:42,865 It can get abstract and conjure something in a person 53 00:06:42,948 --> 00:06:47,077 that can only be conjured through this language of cinema, 54 00:06:55,753 --> 00:06:58,714 The real gift is when you get an idea, 55 00:06:58,797 --> 00:07:02,176 it comes in a spark and you see it and you feel it and you hear it, 56 00:07:02,259 --> 00:07:03,510 (knocking) 57 00:07:09,058 --> 00:07:11,769 If you get the elements correct, uh, 58 00:07:11,852 --> 00:07:18,067 the thing will dig into a person and they'll-they'll have this experience, 59 00:07:19,109 --> 00:07:22,863 It can conjure a kind of a knowing, even though it's abstract, 60 00:07:25,032 --> 00:07:27,034 It's-It's real magical, 61 00:07:40,339 --> 00:07:44,259 If the picture is giant and the sound is beautiful 62 00:07:44,343 --> 00:07:48,055 and the people are quiet and they get into this world, 63 00:07:48,138 --> 00:07:50,891 it's very, very delicate how you get into that world, 64 00:07:50,975 --> 00:07:53,268 it can be broken with the wrong sound, 65 00:07:53,352 --> 00:07:56,146 it can be broken with a stupid little screen, 66 00:07:56,230 --> 00:07:59,858 it can be broken with people making noises in the theater, 67 00:07:59,942 --> 00:08:04,029 It's so delicate, but if you get into that world, it can be like a dream, 68 00:08:14,999 --> 00:08:18,711 You're not only an observer, but you can get caught up in that world 69 00:08:18,794 --> 00:08:20,713 and it can become very real, 70 00:08:27,469 --> 00:08:32,725 In dreams, logic goes out the window and yet you understand it, 71 00:08:49,742 --> 00:08:52,327 There's a thing called imagination, 72 00:08:52,411 --> 00:08:56,331 but I think imagination is just ideas flowing, 73 00:08:59,043 --> 00:09:00,669 I always equate it to fishing, 74 00:09:01,628 --> 00:09:05,799 You can't take credit for a beautiful little trout, 75 00:09:05,883 --> 00:09:09,094 uh, but you can realty appreciate it when you catch one, 76 00:09:47,174 --> 00:09:50,594 - I'm so glad you didn't give the center over to the aisle, this is really good, 77 00:09:58,727 --> 00:09:59,978 Good, 78 00:10:02,898 --> 00:10:06,068 (chatter) 79 00:10:51,029 --> 00:10:52,948 - Woman: I just remember, you know, a lot of people saying... 80 00:10:53,031 --> 00:10:56,910 - man: I've never seen kind of-- these kinds of films ever, just-- 81 00:10:56,994 --> 00:11:00,998 And I see yours and I'm kind of, "Whoa, what is this?" 82 00:11:01,123 --> 00:11:02,374 - Good, 83 00:11:11,675 --> 00:11:14,011 - Jacobs: These movies are, you know, thoughts, 84 00:11:15,512 --> 00:11:16,847 They're stores of memory, 85 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,937 And they only matter to us because they strike sparks with that stuff, 86 00:11:24,688 --> 00:11:27,774 - I'm very, very inspired, 87 00:11:27,858 --> 00:11:29,568 - You don't have much of a choice, 88 00:11:29,651 --> 00:11:31,695 You have to-- You have to do it, 89 00:11:31,778 --> 00:11:33,864 You know, we have to... (sighs) 90 00:11:35,824 --> 00:11:37,075 Persevere, 91 00:11:38,577 --> 00:11:39,828 - man: So what'd you think of the audience? 92 00:11:39,912 --> 00:11:41,663 Did they like the movie-- They got it? 93 00:11:41,747 --> 00:11:42,873 - Yeah, 94 00:11:42,956 --> 00:11:44,249 No one walked out that I know, 95 00:11:45,417 --> 00:11:48,962 You just have to really be afflicted with it, realty, 96 00:11:50,505 --> 00:11:53,842 (singing) 97 00:12:49,898 --> 00:12:51,900 - I'm interested in alternative film form, 98 00:12:53,026 --> 00:12:56,405 I'm realty interested in what the medium itself can do, 99 00:12:57,823 --> 00:12:59,825 What I'm looking for in film is to get... 100 00:13:00,826 --> 00:13:05,580 an enhanced understanding, an enhanced access to the world, 101 00:13:11,586 --> 00:13:15,257 - It's diminishing, the amount of interest there is in this kind of cinema, I think, 102 00:13:15,340 --> 00:13:17,801 but there's still a hardcore group of people 103 00:13:17,884 --> 00:13:19,261 that still appreciate it, 104 00:13:25,434 --> 00:13:26,977 - And there's young people who are coming up 105 00:13:27,060 --> 00:13:29,730 who are realty interested in it, 106 00:13:31,690 --> 00:13:34,568 - I'm not gonna, like, blanket-say Meryl Streep can't fit into it, 107 00:13:35,068 --> 00:13:36,737 - That dingo took my baby! 108 00:13:36,903 --> 00:13:38,155 Took my baby-- My baby! 109 00:13:38,238 --> 00:13:39,489 - Bon appétit, 110 00:13:39,573 --> 00:13:42,451 - If I juxtaposition or remake it in a certain way, 111 00:13:42,534 --> 00:13:44,077 maybe it could fit in this category, 112 00:13:44,161 --> 00:13:46,079 - All al-- alone, 113 00:13:47,372 --> 00:13:49,875 All al-- alone, 114 00:13:50,667 --> 00:13:51,918 All al-- 115 00:13:53,378 --> 00:13:58,550 - woman: We distribute films that are not for the mass media, 116 00:13:58,633 --> 00:13:59,968 Hollywood has a formulaic, 117 00:14:00,052 --> 00:14:01,928 a beginning, a middle and an end, 118 00:14:02,012 --> 00:14:05,557 If I go see the "Twilight" series, it-it-- 119 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,351 The vampires isn't even a vampire, 120 00:14:07,434 --> 00:14:11,646 He won't sleep with the girl because, uh, he's Mormon or something, 121 00:14:14,232 --> 00:14:17,277 I look for the deepest part of the human psyche, 122 00:14:17,361 --> 00:14:19,363 what cannot be expressed in words 123 00:14:20,072 --> 00:14:25,994 and what is, um, sometimes graphic and explicit and painful, 124 00:14:26,078 --> 00:14:29,122 but it's what we all have in common, what makes us human, 125 00:14:35,212 --> 00:14:37,464 (film projector whirring) 126 00:14:39,216 --> 00:14:40,675 - I think we're seeing an experimental film 127 00:14:40,759 --> 00:14:43,011 from maybe the '60s, but I can't realty place it, 128 00:14:44,971 --> 00:14:48,767 I see a lot of, sort of, Andy Warhol factory-types, 129 00:14:52,187 --> 00:14:55,774 I tend to sort of prefer my cinema to have a little bit of story, 130 00:14:55,857 --> 00:14:57,359 I feel like that's important, 131 00:14:58,276 --> 00:15:03,031 I have, uh, an iPhone and I can just sit there and record and record 132 00:15:03,115 --> 00:15:06,618 and, um, that doesn't make it cinematic, 133 00:15:06,701 --> 00:15:09,871 It just makes it a $300 item that records video, 134 00:15:13,125 --> 00:15:15,419 You have to bring a little bit more to the show 135 00:15:15,502 --> 00:15:17,546 if you want to be called cinema, I feel, 136 00:15:18,797 --> 00:15:20,132 - woman: All al-- 137 00:15:21,842 --> 00:15:27,222 - Serra: We're part of the counterculture, that idea of outside the mainstreams 138 00:15:27,305 --> 00:15:29,433 and it still applies today, 139 00:15:30,851 --> 00:15:33,854 It can be any form, it can be any content, 140 00:15:35,397 --> 00:15:36,648 It's personal vision, 141 00:15:36,731 --> 00:15:37,983 Anyone can make a film, 142 00:15:54,916 --> 00:15:57,419 (horns honking) 143 00:16:33,246 --> 00:16:38,668 - To me, the-the basis of, uh, motion pictures is the experience 144 00:16:38,752 --> 00:16:42,047 and the narrative can be part of the-the-the, uh-- 145 00:16:42,130 --> 00:16:45,800 the experience, but it's-it's that you-you as the viewer experience something 146 00:16:47,010 --> 00:16:48,470 in-in time, 147 00:16:48,553 --> 00:16:49,804 (horns honking) 148 00:16:54,684 --> 00:16:59,272 A great movie, um, stand up under repeated viewings 149 00:16:59,356 --> 00:17:01,983 And that once you know the story, 150 00:17:02,067 --> 00:17:08,615 you're free in a way to get deeper into other parts of the-of the experience, 151 00:17:08,698 --> 00:17:09,950 (horns honking) 152 00:17:18,375 --> 00:17:22,254 There's a lot more than, uh, than-than-than just the plot, 153 00:17:23,338 --> 00:17:27,425 - You don't go to bed deciding what you're gonna dream and make, uh, notes, 154 00:17:27,509 --> 00:17:28,510 I will dream this, 155 00:17:28,593 --> 00:17:31,346 You know, you don't need a script, you dream, 156 00:17:31,429 --> 00:17:35,809 And the dreams can be very vivid, and you know, utterly necessary, 157 00:17:38,270 --> 00:17:40,772 And I felt that way about-about the filmmaking, 158 00:17:40,855 --> 00:17:46,570 that if I-if I had a story to tell, it-it would make itself known, 159 00:17:49,447 --> 00:17:51,116 - Hoberman: And the powerful thing about motion pictures 160 00:17:51,199 --> 00:17:57,122 is that it's an experience which hundreds of thousands, millions of people 161 00:17:57,205 --> 00:18:01,751 can-can share, although it's not going to be identical in every case, 162 00:18:01,835 --> 00:18:03,169 and that-that, to me, is not the same thing 163 00:18:03,253 --> 00:18:07,507 as-as saying that they're all, um, following the same story, 164 00:18:15,390 --> 00:18:17,434 There's nothing intrinsic in motion pictures 165 00:18:17,517 --> 00:18:20,729 that demands a narrative and a case could be made 166 00:18:20,812 --> 00:18:25,150 that the narrative element is, uh, secondary 167 00:18:25,233 --> 00:18:27,235 to many other things in the movie, 168 00:18:45,462 --> 00:18:46,963 - The best scripts don't make the best films, 169 00:18:47,047 --> 00:18:49,090 you know, because they have that kind of literary, 170 00:18:49,174 --> 00:18:51,676 you know, narrative thing, you know, that you're sort of a slave to, 171 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,928 The best films, you know, are the ones that aren't, like, 172 00:18:54,012 --> 00:18:56,014 tied to that slavishly, so, um... 173 00:18:57,265 --> 00:19:00,143 so I don't know, the whole narrative thing, it just seems to me like, you know, 174 00:19:00,226 --> 00:19:02,604 you don't-you don't first think of the story of the song 175 00:19:02,687 --> 00:19:04,147 and then make the song, you know, it has to come out 176 00:19:04,230 --> 00:19:05,815 of the-- that moment, 177 00:19:05,899 --> 00:19:09,778 you know, and that's what film has, it's just that moment which is holy, 178 00:19:09,861 --> 00:19:11,988 - I was in and out of the holy moment, looking at you, 179 00:19:14,032 --> 00:19:16,660 Can't be in a holy-- you're unique that way, Caveh, 180 00:19:16,743 --> 00:19:18,495 That's one of the reasons I enjoy you, 181 00:19:18,578 --> 00:19:21,247 You can bring me into that, 182 00:19:23,291 --> 00:19:26,461 - man: Let's see, now, I have a sample of her handwriting here, 183 00:19:28,338 --> 00:19:29,589 Oh, yes, 184 00:19:30,590 --> 00:19:31,841 Here we are, 185 00:19:32,467 --> 00:19:33,718 Marie Samuels, 186 00:19:34,260 --> 00:19:35,595 Has an interesting address, 187 00:19:35,762 --> 00:19:41,017 - man: When I say that I'm not interested in content, uh, 188 00:19:41,101 --> 00:19:47,774 it's, uh, it would be the same as a painter worrying about 189 00:19:47,857 --> 00:19:53,863 whether the apples that he's painting, whether they're sweet or sour, 190 00:19:55,365 --> 00:19:56,616 Who cares? 191 00:19:57,450 --> 00:20:00,120 It's his style, his manner of painting them, 192 00:20:03,915 --> 00:20:08,920 We have a rectangular screen in a movie house, 193 00:20:09,003 --> 00:20:14,008 Now, this rectangular screen has got to be filled with a succession of images, 194 00:20:18,138 --> 00:20:24,227 Any art form is there for the artist to interpret it 195 00:20:24,310 --> 00:20:28,356 in his own way and thus create an emotion, 196 00:20:32,986 --> 00:20:35,280 (plane rumbling) 197 00:22:29,936 --> 00:22:32,939 - Man: I wish I knew how to quit you, 198 00:22:37,819 --> 00:22:39,737 - You just don't belong in my world, Bella, 199 00:22:39,821 --> 00:22:41,155 - I belong with you, 200 00:22:41,406 --> 00:22:43,157 - My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, 201 00:22:44,492 --> 00:22:45,952 And I will have my vengeance, 202 00:22:49,205 --> 00:22:50,707 - Can't you see it's impossible? 203 00:22:50,790 --> 00:22:52,083 - No, 204 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,768 - In dealing with high emotion of jealousy 205 00:23:10,852 --> 00:23:16,399 and, uh all of the melodramatic elements, betrayals and all 206 00:23:16,482 --> 00:23:21,154 this kind of stuff, I was very aware of-of dealing with a genre, 207 00:23:21,237 --> 00:23:23,823 but, uh, because I didn't use actors, 208 00:23:23,907 --> 00:23:27,911 I used, uh, dancers who had no acting ability at all, 209 00:23:31,289 --> 00:23:36,711 One way of describing my relation to making art of any kind 210 00:23:36,794 --> 00:23:42,842 is, uh, batting my head against the wall of, uh, familiar practices, 211 00:23:43,927 --> 00:23:45,678 - I'd like to kick your ass in, 212 00:23:45,762 --> 00:23:47,764 - It's a Brechtian idea 213 00:23:47,847 --> 00:23:53,603 of disrupting the spectators' identification, uh, 214 00:23:53,686 --> 00:23:57,774 and making them aware that they're seeing something that is constructed, 215 00:23:59,525 --> 00:24:01,194 - man: Sherman, is that you? 216 00:24:02,528 --> 00:24:03,655 - Rainer: Shut up back there, 217 00:24:06,783 --> 00:24:07,992 - woman: Now, you keep your body there, 218 00:24:08,076 --> 00:24:09,410 One, two, 219 00:24:11,162 --> 00:24:15,208 - Rainer: I was making a kind of dance that wasn't involved with stories 220 00:24:15,291 --> 00:24:20,254 or topical issues and the second wave of feminism came along 221 00:24:20,338 --> 00:24:23,341 and the possibilities of film seemed so much more... 222 00:24:26,177 --> 00:24:30,640 open and, uh, extended than what I was able to do with-with dance, 223 00:24:32,809 --> 00:24:34,477 - Court jesters were always male, 224 00:24:35,812 --> 00:24:38,147 Even as fools, they were accorded dignity, 225 00:24:39,399 --> 00:24:43,569 But when a woman plays the fool, she's made to feel like an idiot, 226 00:24:43,653 --> 00:24:46,698 There's no dignity in the role for us, 227 00:24:46,781 --> 00:24:49,033 - Rainer: I never expected a mass audience, 228 00:24:49,117 --> 00:24:56,874 I mean, I go to some of my screenings and the only reason I stay 229 00:24:56,958 --> 00:24:59,293 is to see when people will leave, 230 00:25:16,269 --> 00:25:20,398 "Jeanne Dielman" was a very radical film for its time, 231 00:25:22,525 --> 00:25:28,281 She was telling a story, in a very attenuated way, 232 00:25:28,364 --> 00:25:32,201 about the disillusion of the main character, 233 00:27:18,474 --> 00:27:24,313 - Of course, we were all influenced by feminism and its, uh, its protest 234 00:27:24,397 --> 00:27:30,069 against the, uh, inequities in social and private life, 235 00:27:31,112 --> 00:27:32,822 (grunting) 236 00:27:35,825 --> 00:27:41,956 There is no way the image of a woman could, uh, be, uh, represented 237 00:27:42,039 --> 00:27:44,625 without it being sexualized, 238 00:27:47,962 --> 00:27:49,505 (brakes screeching) 239 00:27:50,464 --> 00:27:54,969 This male gaze was something to be analyzed... 240 00:27:57,013 --> 00:28:02,351 Beginning with the director then the, uh, the male character, 241 00:28:03,811 --> 00:28:06,731 The woman's body was a landscape 242 00:28:06,814 --> 00:28:09,775 through which the man passed and controlled, 243 00:28:17,700 --> 00:28:19,327 - Here's looking at you, kid, 244 00:28:30,213 --> 00:28:31,881 (crashing) 245 00:28:31,964 --> 00:28:33,216 (screaming) 246 00:28:43,142 --> 00:28:44,727 - This is one night you're not turning me out, 247 00:28:48,689 --> 00:28:49,690 - This your girl? 248 00:28:49,774 --> 00:28:51,108 - I'm my mother's girl, 249 00:28:51,984 --> 00:28:53,402 - Rainer: You know, it still goes on, 250 00:28:54,362 --> 00:28:58,157 We are bombarded by images of women's bodies 251 00:28:58,241 --> 00:29:02,286 and it's an ongoing struggle to deal with that 252 00:29:02,370 --> 00:29:04,747 in art-making of all kinds, 253 00:29:08,376 --> 00:29:10,002 - Wh-what's this? 254 00:29:10,086 --> 00:29:11,337 Heavy underwear, 255 00:29:11,754 --> 00:29:12,880 (metal clattering) 256 00:29:12,964 --> 00:29:14,215 Sorry about that, 257 00:29:28,104 --> 00:29:30,815 - Cinema is the sexiest thing possible, 258 00:29:33,192 --> 00:29:37,530 First of all, you're dealing with the issue of control and passivity, 259 00:29:38,489 --> 00:29:41,784 The person behind the camera ostensibly has control, 260 00:29:41,867 --> 00:29:46,122 the person in front of the camera is supposedly the subjective, 261 00:29:46,205 --> 00:29:49,208 or the object, and so there's a little dance, 262 00:29:51,419 --> 00:29:53,004 (groaning) 263 00:29:54,422 --> 00:29:58,050 But I absolutely believe that everything in life is political, 264 00:29:59,802 --> 00:30:03,014 For me, anything that you turn the camera onto 265 00:30:03,097 --> 00:30:06,142 is, in essence, a documentation, 266 00:30:07,935 --> 00:30:09,312 - man: Brother to brother, brother to brother, 267 00:30:09,395 --> 00:30:10,771 - men: Brother to brother, brother to brother, 268 00:30:10,855 --> 00:30:12,398 Brother to brother, brother to brother, 269 00:30:12,481 --> 00:30:14,066 Brother to brother, brother to brother, 270 00:30:14,150 --> 00:30:15,568 Brother to brother, brother to brother, 271 00:30:15,651 --> 00:30:17,278 Brother to brother, brother to brother, 272 00:30:17,361 --> 00:30:18,779 Brother to brother, brother to brother, 273 00:30:18,863 --> 00:30:20,865 Brother to brother, brother to brother, 274 00:30:21,782 --> 00:30:23,159 - man: Brother to brother, brother to brother, 275 00:30:23,242 --> 00:30:24,660 Brother to brother, brother to brother, 276 00:30:24,744 --> 00:30:26,704 - men: Brother to brother, brother to brother, 277 00:30:26,787 --> 00:30:29,332 - man: Something very powerful about sitting in a dark theater 278 00:30:29,415 --> 00:30:33,919 with a few hundred people, mostly strangers, and the audience, 279 00:30:34,003 --> 00:30:36,339 though they are not realty communicating with each other, 280 00:30:36,422 --> 00:30:40,801 they do affect each other and-and it becomes sort of a collective force, 281 00:30:43,596 --> 00:30:44,805 Moore on film: I asked Corporal Henderson 282 00:30:44,889 --> 00:30:48,476 of the United States Marine Corps to join me on Capitol Hill 283 00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:51,812 to see how many members of Congress we could convince 284 00:30:51,896 --> 00:30:54,565 to enlist their children to go to Iraq, 285 00:30:54,982 --> 00:30:56,275 Congressman? 286 00:30:56,359 --> 00:30:57,818 Michael Moore-- How are you doing? 287 00:30:57,902 --> 00:30:58,903 - How are you today? - Good, good, 288 00:30:58,986 --> 00:30:59,987 I'm trying to get members of Congress 289 00:31:00,071 --> 00:31:04,075 to get their kids to enlist in the army and go over to Iraq, 290 00:31:06,077 --> 00:31:07,328 Congressman? 291 00:31:07,995 --> 00:31:09,789 Congressman-- Congressman? 292 00:31:09,872 --> 00:31:10,873 Congressman Doolittle, 293 00:31:10,956 --> 00:31:11,957 Michael Moore, 294 00:31:12,041 --> 00:31:13,250 - Oh, no... - I'm wondering if... 295 00:31:13,334 --> 00:31:16,253 - I believe movies, especially documentaries 296 00:31:16,337 --> 00:31:18,464 should have a point of view and the filmmaker should be honest 297 00:31:18,547 --> 00:31:20,466 about their point of view, 298 00:31:20,549 --> 00:31:21,717 Should believe in something, 299 00:31:21,801 --> 00:31:24,261 If I was making a movie about women getting the right to vote, 300 00:31:24,345 --> 00:31:25,805 you know, well, Mike, you didn't-- 301 00:31:25,888 --> 00:31:27,890 You didn't put in those people that thought women shouldn't be voting, 302 00:31:29,558 --> 00:31:31,227 Yeah, that's right, 303 00:31:31,310 --> 00:31:32,603 - woman: Paco, 304 00:31:32,686 --> 00:31:33,938 Raymond, 305 00:31:35,106 --> 00:31:37,733 T-Tania... Todd, 306 00:31:37,817 --> 00:31:40,444 - man: I consider my documentaries to be dramatic films, 307 00:31:42,613 --> 00:31:44,615 What's the theme of the film? 308 00:31:45,408 --> 00:31:47,034 What's the heartbeat of the film? 309 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,162 - Man: You know, we forget that someday, this is gonna be over, 310 00:31:52,123 --> 00:31:54,667 Someday, there's gonna be no such thing as AIDS, 311 00:31:54,750 --> 00:31:56,710 - man: Our most precious jewel, 312 00:31:56,794 --> 00:31:59,130 - woman: John, - man: Our most beautiful son, 313 00:32:00,464 --> 00:32:01,715 John Anthony, 314 00:32:01,799 --> 00:32:02,967 - woman: Johnny boy, - man: Johnny boy, 315 00:32:03,050 --> 00:32:08,931 - If it works as a story, if it engages the viewer, um, 316 00:32:09,014 --> 00:32:14,520 if it makes sense to the viewer, if it moves the viewer, informs, uh, 317 00:32:14,603 --> 00:32:17,857 I want it to work for anybody who sees it, 318 00:32:17,940 --> 00:32:20,276 - man: And we love him so much, 319 00:32:21,819 --> 00:32:23,154 We love him so much, 320 00:32:28,909 --> 00:32:32,371 (distant booming, chatter) 321 00:32:32,455 --> 00:32:36,000 - Man: I didn't drop napalm, but I dropped other things just as bad, 322 00:32:36,083 --> 00:32:37,084 And people would suffer, 323 00:32:37,168 --> 00:32:39,336 They would-they would live, but they would suffer, you know, 324 00:32:39,420 --> 00:32:41,130 then often they would die afterwards, 325 00:32:41,213 --> 00:32:43,883 And this would cause people to have to take care of them, you know? 326 00:32:45,551 --> 00:32:49,096 But I look at my children now 327 00:32:49,180 --> 00:32:53,267 and, uh, I don't know what would happen if-- 328 00:32:54,810 --> 00:32:58,522 what I would think about if someone napalmed... 329 00:33:07,698 --> 00:33:10,618 (loud chatter) 330 00:33:10,701 --> 00:33:13,329 - Moore: Some of the great films that were documentaries that I saw 331 00:33:13,412 --> 00:33:17,082 were very inspiring because I saw things that I couldn't see anyplace else, 332 00:33:21,420 --> 00:33:22,755 - Jagger: Come on now! 333 00:33:23,214 --> 00:33:24,965 Everybody, just cool out! 334 00:33:27,134 --> 00:33:29,053 (banging) 335 00:33:32,515 --> 00:33:34,350 - You okay, Jim? - Yes, Johnny! 336 00:33:34,433 --> 00:33:35,684 - Huh? 337 00:33:36,894 --> 00:33:38,562 What are you doing, Jim? 338 00:33:53,869 --> 00:33:55,704 - Woman: What do you do for a living, Jason? 339 00:33:55,788 --> 00:33:56,830 - I hustle, 340 00:33:56,914 --> 00:33:58,165 (laughing) 341 00:33:59,500 --> 00:34:00,834 I'm a stone whore, 342 00:34:03,504 --> 00:34:05,256 And I'm not ashamed of it, 343 00:34:43,377 --> 00:34:46,297 - man: Of course, we are challenging nature itself, 344 00:34:46,380 --> 00:34:47,715 And it hits back, 345 00:34:48,215 --> 00:34:50,217 It just hits back, that's all, 346 00:34:50,426 --> 00:34:53,470 And I wouldn't see anything "erotical" here, 347 00:34:53,554 --> 00:34:56,724 I would see fornication and asphyxiation and choking 348 00:34:57,808 --> 00:35:02,521 and fighting for survival and growing and... 349 00:35:04,356 --> 00:35:05,899 Just rotting away, 350 00:35:07,943 --> 00:35:10,029 (gun firing) 351 00:35:15,326 --> 00:35:16,577 (thudding) 352 00:35:17,620 --> 00:35:19,246 - Man: You don't remember? 353 00:35:19,330 --> 00:35:20,831 - This isn't a deposition, sir, 354 00:35:20,914 --> 00:35:22,541 I was polite enough to give you time, 355 00:35:22,625 --> 00:35:24,251 Foolishly, I now see, 356 00:35:24,335 --> 00:35:26,003 You have three more minutes, 357 00:35:26,503 --> 00:35:27,755 Give it your best shot, 358 00:35:41,060 --> 00:35:45,856 - Moore: I don't have a lot of, uh, highfalutin hopes for movies 359 00:35:45,939 --> 00:35:48,692 or anything, realty, changing the world these days, 360 00:35:48,776 --> 00:35:50,402 although I-I do remain an optimist, 361 00:35:52,404 --> 00:35:53,656 - woman: Excuse me, 362 00:35:54,573 --> 00:35:55,824 Excuse me, 363 00:35:56,659 --> 00:35:58,661 Uh, where are you guys going? 364 00:35:58,744 --> 00:36:00,371 - We're going up to the 14th floor, 365 00:36:00,454 --> 00:36:01,705 - Do you have an appointment? 366 00:36:01,789 --> 00:36:03,415 - No, we're gonna try and see Roger Smith, 367 00:36:03,499 --> 00:36:04,792 - No, you're not, 368 00:36:04,875 --> 00:36:06,669 You're not gonna get on one of those elevators, 369 00:36:06,752 --> 00:36:07,753 - Why is that? 370 00:36:07,836 --> 00:36:10,130 - If you don't have an appointment, you're not going up to 14, 371 00:36:10,214 --> 00:36:11,632 - Well, can we go up and try and make an appointment? 372 00:36:11,715 --> 00:36:12,758 - No, 373 00:36:12,841 --> 00:36:14,093 - Why? 374 00:36:14,927 --> 00:36:16,595 - I need Tony or Denise, 375 00:36:17,096 --> 00:36:19,723 - And the reason to talk to Roger Smith would be? 376 00:36:19,807 --> 00:36:20,933 - Uh, Michael Moore, 377 00:36:21,016 --> 00:36:23,602 - No, what's your reason for seeing Roger Smith? 378 00:36:23,686 --> 00:36:25,562 - Excuse me, I need to see you, - Um, we're doing-- 379 00:36:25,646 --> 00:36:27,564 We're making a film, 380 00:36:29,274 --> 00:36:33,445 Cinema is a way to sort of-- to take a look at the world 381 00:36:33,529 --> 00:36:40,411 in which we live and make it writ large so that the audience 382 00:36:40,494 --> 00:36:42,663 watching the film becomes part of it, 383 00:36:44,748 --> 00:36:47,084 And they do become part of it, 384 00:36:56,343 --> 00:36:58,470 - People used to talk to me about "Z" so much, 385 00:36:58,554 --> 00:36:59,888 almost 45 years ago, 386 00:37:01,056 --> 00:37:04,560 The fact that the few movies succeed, survive, 387 00:37:04,643 --> 00:37:07,187 I think the only explanation I have 388 00:37:07,271 --> 00:37:12,067 is that the director and the actors and everybody 389 00:37:12,151 --> 00:37:14,278 give so much passion to make that movie 390 00:37:14,361 --> 00:37:16,572 and its passion remains, survives, 391 00:37:16,655 --> 00:37:21,577 Everyone finally has a vision of the movie, has a vision of the scene, 392 00:37:21,660 --> 00:37:24,705 so the important thing is to bring everybody to go to the director's vision, 393 00:37:26,790 --> 00:37:30,252 We don't do in a kind of political speech or university speech, 394 00:37:31,587 --> 00:37:33,589 I would like the audience to feel it much more than see it, 395 00:37:37,676 --> 00:37:40,971 I believe the story's most important, with a good style, of course, 396 00:37:42,222 --> 00:37:45,350 (exploding, crashing) 397 00:38:15,964 --> 00:38:17,216 (shouting) 398 00:38:28,769 --> 00:38:31,772 - Photography does not create eternity as art does, 399 00:38:31,855 --> 00:38:35,192 It embalms time, rescuing it simply from its proper corruption, 400 00:38:36,235 --> 00:38:40,280 Viewed in this perspective, the cinema is objectivity and time, 401 00:38:41,156 --> 00:38:42,741 (gun firing) 402 00:38:49,081 --> 00:38:51,375 (gun firing) 403 00:38:53,544 --> 00:38:57,422 For the French film critic André Bazin, the invention of photography 404 00:38:57,506 --> 00:39:02,261 and cinema were revolutionary because for the first time in human history, 405 00:39:02,344 --> 00:39:08,016 we could record and therefore capture and hold an actual moment in time, 406 00:39:09,184 --> 00:39:10,435 (flapping) 407 00:39:12,271 --> 00:39:14,731 For him, this was revolutionary, not least because, 408 00:39:14,815 --> 00:39:19,403 even though a director chooses what to film, 409 00:39:19,486 --> 00:39:24,616 can put the film images in any order and then alter them in any way, 410 00:39:24,741 --> 00:39:30,914 nonetheless, there is that direct contact with an original moment in time, 411 00:39:35,002 --> 00:39:40,215 And for Bazin, what we see on screen only exists in relation 412 00:39:40,299 --> 00:39:42,759 to everything that's not on screen, 413 00:39:45,971 --> 00:39:48,682 Cinema suggests as much as it reveals, 414 00:39:51,768 --> 00:39:53,020 (horn honking) 415 00:40:02,613 --> 00:40:04,156 (grunting, thudding) 416 00:40:08,535 --> 00:40:10,078 - So, finally you watch the movie, 417 00:40:10,162 --> 00:40:12,331 There is nothing-- you create the universe, 418 00:40:12,414 --> 00:40:13,665 (gun fires) 419 00:40:16,043 --> 00:40:17,753 The movie is not reality, 420 00:40:17,836 --> 00:40:20,505 It's based on the real, but it's not reality, 421 00:40:20,589 --> 00:40:24,134 The art's... much too longer, much too complex, 422 00:40:24,217 --> 00:40:27,387 The important thing is to give the audience the elements 423 00:40:27,471 --> 00:40:28,639 they can understand the story 424 00:40:28,722 --> 00:40:29,973 and what the story is meaning, 425 00:40:39,608 --> 00:40:41,902 So, the way you do it I don't really know, 426 00:40:44,071 --> 00:40:45,781 (chuckling) 427 00:40:45,864 --> 00:40:47,115 I don't know, 428 00:40:59,419 --> 00:41:04,967 - Man: He is totally trusting himself and the material, 429 00:41:06,343 --> 00:41:10,013 He winds up with some of the greatest footage ever shot, 430 00:41:26,071 --> 00:41:31,660 He was using that horribly misunderstood word, "film style," 431 00:41:31,743 --> 00:41:34,496 and that takes such courage 432 00:41:34,579 --> 00:41:37,541 and such wisdom 433 00:41:37,624 --> 00:41:39,876 and such security, 434 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,294 He trusts the audience, 435 00:41:53,932 --> 00:41:58,729 The oversaturation of the color applies to all of the work, 436 00:42:00,605 --> 00:42:03,025 There's an oversaturation in performance, 437 00:42:25,172 --> 00:42:26,840 We're changed by great work, 438 00:42:27,507 --> 00:42:30,469 So you see "Ran" because you're exposed to something 439 00:42:31,970 --> 00:42:34,639 that's as good as a movie can get, 440 00:44:44,186 --> 00:44:45,437 (gasping) 441 00:47:43,156 --> 00:47:45,075 (waves crashing) 442 00:47:47,077 --> 00:47:52,415 - Ideally, the audience can look at a film, emotionally get the whole thing 443 00:47:52,499 --> 00:47:55,835 and, uh, not necessarily be able to explain it to somebody else, 444 00:47:57,754 --> 00:47:59,172 You know what it means, but you can't articulate it, 445 00:48:01,216 --> 00:48:02,759 After I see a film, 446 00:48:02,842 --> 00:48:04,677 I say, how do they do that? 447 00:48:04,761 --> 00:48:06,262 I don't know how it gets done, 448 00:48:08,681 --> 00:48:10,683 (wind rushing) 449 00:48:15,355 --> 00:48:16,815 - Woman: Kiss my hot lips! 450 00:48:16,898 --> 00:48:17,899 - Man: Oh, hot... 451 00:48:18,525 --> 00:48:19,776 - Lips? 452 00:48:19,859 --> 00:48:21,736 Hot... Hot lips? 453 00:48:21,820 --> 00:48:24,197 - We have got to share this with the rest of this camp, 454 00:48:25,490 --> 00:48:26,908 - Altman: There's a word that's in the director's manual, 455 00:48:26,991 --> 00:48:28,243 it says "action," 456 00:48:29,035 --> 00:48:33,873 I don't restrict the actors and I allow them to do what they can do 457 00:48:33,957 --> 00:48:36,042 or what they will do, in fact, I insist on it 458 00:48:36,126 --> 00:48:38,336 and I don't restrict their performance, 459 00:48:38,420 --> 00:48:39,671 (Echoing) - Frank! 460 00:48:39,754 --> 00:48:41,089 Wait a second! 461 00:48:41,172 --> 00:48:43,508 - What is it? - Turn the light on! 462 00:48:44,217 --> 00:48:46,219 No, that's wrong-- turn it off, 463 00:48:50,473 --> 00:48:53,226 - Altman: When we started film, we took it from theater, 464 00:48:53,309 --> 00:48:56,646 literature and we were an extension of another art form, 465 00:49:01,151 --> 00:49:05,321 It's still that way, it's getting away from it and I think that eventually, 466 00:49:05,405 --> 00:49:08,575 somebody will make a film that is purely a film 467 00:49:08,658 --> 00:49:12,412 and the audience can respond to as such and I don't think it's been done, 468 00:49:12,495 --> 00:49:14,164 - But I'm easy 469 00:49:15,290 --> 00:49:16,958 Yeah I'm easy 470 00:49:18,126 --> 00:49:20,837 Take my hand and pull me down 471 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,632 I won't put up any fight because I'm easy 472 00:49:26,801 --> 00:49:28,052 Easy 473 00:49:29,429 --> 00:49:31,931 Give the word I'll play your game 474 00:49:32,015 --> 00:49:34,726 As though that's how it ought to be 475 00:49:34,809 --> 00:49:38,980 Because I'm easy (clapping) 476 00:49:39,063 --> 00:49:40,815 - Altman: I've always said that making a film 477 00:49:40,899 --> 00:49:43,318 is like making a sandcastle at the beach, 478 00:49:44,277 --> 00:49:47,989 You invite your friends and you get 'em down there and you say, 479 00:49:48,072 --> 00:49:51,409 you build this beautiful structure and have a drink, 480 00:49:51,493 --> 00:49:55,872 watch the tide come in and the ocean just takes it away, 481 00:49:55,955 --> 00:49:58,291 and that sandcastle remains in your mind, 482 00:50:00,210 --> 00:50:01,878 (dog barking) 483 00:50:05,798 --> 00:50:08,259 - Can we talk about something other than Hollywood for a change? 484 00:50:08,343 --> 00:50:09,344 - Woman: Yes, - woman: Yes, 485 00:50:09,427 --> 00:50:10,428 - We're educated people, - woman: Yeah, 486 00:50:10,512 --> 00:50:11,846 - man: Sure, - woman: Sure, 487 00:50:13,973 --> 00:50:15,225 - (laughing) 488 00:50:33,826 --> 00:50:38,373 - In this particular piece, as in a lot of my work, 489 00:50:38,456 --> 00:50:40,458 quite a bit of my work... 490 00:50:41,251 --> 00:50:46,965 People are really feeling a deep emotion, uh, 491 00:50:47,048 --> 00:50:51,886 from the experience that's going on on the screen, 492 00:50:51,970 --> 00:50:56,099 and what's going on on the screen right now is, uh, 493 00:50:56,182 --> 00:51:00,645 an image of a mother and her children 494 00:51:00,728 --> 00:51:06,901 walking through, uh, some kind of barrier and coming into our world, 495 00:51:06,985 --> 00:51:11,948 and then, of course, which is the fate of all of us, they have to go back, 496 00:51:12,031 --> 00:51:16,744 They have to go back to the dark gray side, uh, 497 00:51:16,828 --> 00:51:19,289 and go back from where they came 498 00:51:19,372 --> 00:51:22,834 and that's basically, uh, our existence, 499 00:51:22,917 --> 00:51:24,877 That's how we live in this world, 500 00:51:28,548 --> 00:51:31,426 Cinema is the preservation of a memory, 501 00:51:31,509 --> 00:51:34,178 Cinema is the inability to remember without assistance, 502 00:51:36,556 --> 00:51:39,309 Cinema is the preservation of the moment 503 00:51:39,392 --> 00:51:42,061 by slicing up its parts into small pieces, 504 00:51:42,979 --> 00:51:47,150 Cinema is an image that moves too fast to be seen, 505 00:51:47,233 --> 00:51:49,193 but just fast enough to be believed, 506 00:51:51,487 --> 00:51:56,451 Cinema is a series of frozen moments that might wake up, 507 00:51:59,621 --> 00:52:03,541 For me, art exists on the fine line of knowing 508 00:52:03,625 --> 00:52:07,170 and not knowing and a lot of artists make a mistake, 509 00:52:07,253 --> 00:52:13,509 myself included, that you're a little too timid to sort of go all the way 510 00:52:13,593 --> 00:52:19,599 uh, and for me, uh, my life has been changed by the times 511 00:52:19,682 --> 00:52:22,685 when something in my mind, something in my head, 512 00:52:23,019 --> 00:52:27,815 something in my heart just told me to just take that other step, 513 00:52:27,899 --> 00:52:29,192 The one that you don't wanna take, 514 00:52:34,906 --> 00:52:36,449 I don't connect the dots, 515 00:52:36,532 --> 00:52:41,329 I like things that grow sort of like the way plants grow 516 00:52:41,412 --> 00:52:45,291 and they just take you and intertwine and move, 517 00:52:45,375 --> 00:52:48,002 sometimes inside you and out of you and that, 518 00:52:48,086 --> 00:52:51,005 to me, is how I make my work, 519 00:52:51,089 --> 00:52:53,508 Very often sometimes, I don't even know what I'm doing 520 00:52:53,591 --> 00:52:55,343 and-and I guess I kind of like it that way, 521 00:53:00,848 --> 00:53:03,559 The natural world is unpredictable, 522 00:53:03,643 --> 00:53:07,313 We will never, ever find a place where it's absolutely nice 523 00:53:10,191 --> 00:53:12,819 and neat and tidy, it doesn't work like that, 524 00:53:12,902 --> 00:53:17,699 And that's, I think, is the difference between artists and people 525 00:53:17,782 --> 00:53:20,076 that don't make that leap into the unknown, 526 00:53:22,704 --> 00:53:26,666 I have to have an idea, you have to have a way, you have to have a path, 527 00:53:26,749 --> 00:53:28,084 That's all realty important, 528 00:53:28,459 --> 00:53:30,920 You have to have technique, you have to do all of these things, 529 00:53:31,003 --> 00:53:34,841 But in the end, it's gonna realty happen when you let go, 530 00:53:34,924 --> 00:53:37,176 and let go-- letting go, you fall, 531 00:53:37,260 --> 00:53:40,096 and you didn't look to see if there were rocks on the bottom 532 00:53:40,179 --> 00:53:43,474 that you might crush your head on, you just jump, 533 00:53:50,940 --> 00:53:54,736 So much to do when video started and nobody really knew it very well 534 00:53:54,819 --> 00:53:57,488 so everybody was trying to figure it out 535 00:53:57,572 --> 00:54:00,616 and everybody was trying to, you know, understand it better, 536 00:54:00,700 --> 00:54:03,703 but in the end, realty, what you're realty trying to understand 537 00:54:03,786 --> 00:54:07,290 is yourself, your place in the world, 538 00:54:08,541 --> 00:54:09,876 What moves you honestly? 539 00:54:11,836 --> 00:54:13,463 - Madam, 540 00:54:13,546 --> 00:54:14,797 This is best, 541 00:54:15,757 --> 00:54:19,010 - Viola: Not, you know, what you saw someone do or a cool movie you saw 542 00:54:19,093 --> 00:54:23,473 but something realty deep inside you that comes from a very deep place, 543 00:57:01,172 --> 00:57:04,008 (waves crashing) 544 00:57:13,976 --> 00:57:15,519 (ship's horn blowing) 545 00:57:34,830 --> 00:57:36,374 (ship's horn blowing) 546 00:58:14,662 --> 00:58:18,749 - Hoberman: The first motion pictures were minute-long actualities, 547 00:58:20,626 --> 00:58:25,339 And basically, the special effect, or the attraction was the motion picture, 548 00:58:25,423 --> 00:58:28,759 the moving picture, the idea of a photograph that moved, 549 00:58:35,766 --> 00:58:38,811 - Man: Mr, Ford, you made a picture called "3 Bad Men," 550 00:58:38,894 --> 00:58:40,604 and you had a quite elaborate land rush in it, 551 00:58:40,688 --> 00:58:42,356 How did you shoot that? 552 00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:43,816 - Ford: With a camera, 553 00:58:45,026 --> 00:58:48,154 - It's interesting to see them lined up as museum pieces, 554 00:58:48,237 --> 00:58:51,949 because... that's- that's what they are, 555 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,043 - Everybody senses that there's a big change going on, 556 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,172 Nobody knows what it is and I certainty don't know, 557 00:59:08,424 --> 00:59:10,426 I'm gonna be a part of the past, 558 00:59:12,386 --> 00:59:13,804 (crashing) 559 00:59:30,154 --> 00:59:33,491 - Hoberman: It's going to become an increasingly digitally produced medium, 560 00:59:34,158 --> 00:59:36,577 It's neither good nor bad, It just-- it just is, 561 00:59:37,828 --> 00:59:39,080 - Get away, 562 00:59:39,163 --> 00:59:40,414 (screams) 563 00:59:41,457 --> 00:59:42,541 (screaming) 564 00:59:43,876 --> 00:59:46,295 - What's changed, I think, is the nature of the audience 565 00:59:46,378 --> 00:59:49,715 and the parameters of the movie industry, 566 00:59:50,633 --> 00:59:54,929 It's much harder for a certain kind of film to be made, 567 00:59:55,012 --> 00:59:57,014 not just in Hollywood, but anywhere, 568 00:59:57,598 --> 01:00:02,478 I still think that very talented and gifted individuals 569 01:00:02,561 --> 01:00:05,106 are engrossed in the medium 570 01:00:05,189 --> 01:00:06,690 and, you know, the most interesting films 571 01:00:06,774 --> 01:00:08,234 all come from the periphery, 572 01:00:15,908 --> 01:00:18,619 - Everybody knows a lot about film now, 573 01:00:18,702 --> 01:00:21,372 whether they are aware of it or not, 574 01:00:22,123 --> 01:00:26,710 And so it's nice to be able to deconstruct those things a little bit 575 01:00:26,794 --> 01:00:28,087 or play with them 576 01:00:28,170 --> 01:00:29,755 so you're not in a trance-like state of, like, 577 01:00:29,839 --> 01:00:34,760 I know what I'm-- I know what I came for and I will get that, 578 01:00:36,387 --> 01:00:39,557 My films are more sunk in the mundane and the day-to-day, 579 01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:45,980 From the beginning, we know we're gonna have limited resources, 580 01:00:46,063 --> 01:00:49,400 so I'm always looking for stories, that are mostly exteriors, 581 01:00:50,234 --> 01:00:51,485 I like shooting on location, 582 01:00:52,903 --> 01:00:54,405 And it's Oregon, so we're usually in the rain, 583 01:00:56,532 --> 01:00:59,535 I live a completely unadventurous life except for when we're making a film, 584 01:01:02,288 --> 01:01:05,332 You know, you're definitely on an adventure with these people 585 01:01:05,416 --> 01:01:06,917 that you're with, 586 01:01:08,502 --> 01:01:10,588 - man: It's like climbing a mountain, 587 01:01:10,671 --> 01:01:14,383 Look around, you see trees and rocks and bushes, 588 01:01:14,466 --> 01:01:17,678 pressing around you and then you get above the tree line, 589 01:01:17,761 --> 01:01:20,181 you see everything you just went through and it all, like, 590 01:01:20,264 --> 01:01:21,765 comes together, 591 01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:25,853 - Hey-- What's going on? 592 01:01:27,688 --> 01:01:29,023 - Man: Just relax, man, 593 01:01:30,441 --> 01:01:34,778 - Reichardt: "Old Joy" was a crew of six, including the actors, 594 01:01:34,862 --> 01:01:36,405 They had to be crew people, too, 595 01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,159 I had paid for that film myself, 596 01:01:40,242 --> 01:01:42,077 You know, I had everybody for two weeks 597 01:01:42,161 --> 01:01:45,664 and we just sort of went into the woods to make this... 598 01:01:45,748 --> 01:01:47,041 whatever it was gonna be, 599 01:01:47,917 --> 01:01:50,920 The frailty of the production really always does mirror 600 01:01:51,337 --> 01:01:53,005 the frailty of what's happening, 601 01:01:53,255 --> 01:01:54,548 (knocking) 602 01:01:55,591 --> 01:01:59,386 With "Wendy and Lucy," if she makes one mistake, she's done for, 603 01:01:59,470 --> 01:02:01,972 She doesn't have a net, we don't have a net, 604 01:02:02,056 --> 01:02:03,182 - You can't sleep here, ma'am, 605 01:02:03,265 --> 01:02:06,352 - Reichardt: It's putting the audience in the situation she's in, 606 01:02:06,435 --> 01:02:09,772 There's a lot of themes about society and tough times 607 01:02:10,397 --> 01:02:13,234 and also, it's also about aloneness, 608 01:02:20,282 --> 01:02:22,785 To me, the ideal would be, you know, 609 01:02:22,868 --> 01:02:25,120 you leave the theater with someone you saw the movie 610 01:02:25,204 --> 01:02:28,249 with you and you both take away a different idea 611 01:02:28,332 --> 01:02:30,334 and it's not all so conclusive 612 01:02:30,417 --> 01:02:34,171 that it's just completely handed to you, 613 01:02:36,715 --> 01:02:38,968 I'm here in my little editing room, 614 01:02:39,051 --> 01:02:43,055 Nobody says anything that I have to do anything or follow anything, 615 01:02:44,431 --> 01:02:46,058 I'm realty grateful for it, 616 01:02:46,141 --> 01:02:50,604 but it's what I tell myself when, um... (laughs) 617 01:02:50,688 --> 01:02:56,235 I want more time to shoot and you know, more of everything, 618 01:02:58,612 --> 01:03:02,574 - Independent film means films made with no interference whatever, 619 01:03:02,658 --> 01:03:04,410 with total creative freedom, 620 01:03:04,493 --> 01:03:09,623 with absolute, um, integrity 621 01:03:09,707 --> 01:03:12,918 uh, and no committees of any kind 622 01:03:13,002 --> 01:03:16,005 e-e-exerting any kind of pressure on form or content, 623 01:03:17,589 --> 01:03:20,676 (both arguing loudly) 624 01:03:22,094 --> 01:03:26,682 - Leigh: I'm concerned with, um, with the-the very substance, 625 01:03:26,765 --> 01:03:30,936 the sort of tangible nuances of how we are behaviorally, 626 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,940 (grunting) 627 01:03:36,066 --> 01:03:37,609 People say, well, what of the subject? 628 01:03:37,693 --> 01:03:40,738 You know, there's a guy sitting here, the sound recordist-- 629 01:03:40,821 --> 01:03:42,406 There's immediately a story there, 630 01:03:42,489 --> 01:03:45,784 I want to know who he is, where he's from, what he had for breakfast, 631 01:03:45,868 --> 01:03:47,453 what his relationships are about, 632 01:03:47,536 --> 01:03:49,872 You know, there's a movie and there's a guy sitting over there in the corner, 633 01:03:49,955 --> 01:03:51,165 and there's another movie, 634 01:03:51,248 --> 01:03:52,916 or it's the same movie, I don't know, 635 01:03:56,003 --> 01:03:57,421 - Woman: Johnny! - Leigh: Life is out there 636 01:03:57,504 --> 01:04:01,425 to capture and explore and distill 637 01:04:01,508 --> 01:04:04,219 and, uh, be that mirror that we hold up, 638 01:04:06,972 --> 01:04:07,973 - Where are you going, Johnny? 639 01:04:08,057 --> 01:04:09,516 - You're off your head, - I'm coming with you, 640 01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:10,976 - No, you're not, - I want to come with you! 641 01:04:11,060 --> 01:04:12,353 - Don't you fucking come with me, 642 01:04:14,772 --> 01:04:17,232 - Are you coming back? - Johnny: What the fuck for? 643 01:04:25,157 --> 01:04:27,076 - Don't stop! 644 01:04:27,159 --> 01:04:28,494 - What about dinner? - What? 645 01:04:29,828 --> 01:04:31,538 - I can't eat no more, I'm full up, 646 01:04:31,622 --> 01:04:32,956 - It's not a joke! 647 01:04:33,540 --> 01:04:34,792 - I'm gonna puke, 648 01:04:36,126 --> 01:04:37,628 - Weak, 649 01:04:39,630 --> 01:04:43,300 - The main subject with my films is characters and their relationships, 650 01:04:46,470 --> 01:04:51,475 The shoot has to be preceded by a substantial chunk of time 651 01:04:51,558 --> 01:04:54,686 through which you discover what the piece of work is, 652 01:04:54,770 --> 01:04:55,896 (phone ringing) 653 01:04:55,979 --> 01:04:58,524 - In the rehearsal process of "Secrets and Lies, 654 01:04:58,607 --> 01:05:03,487 we had built the backstory, as we do with all the characters, 655 01:05:03,570 --> 01:05:08,283 of the central protagonist, Cynthia, played by Brenda Blethyn, 656 01:05:08,367 --> 01:05:09,368 - Hello? 657 01:05:09,451 --> 01:05:10,953 - Is that Cynthia Purley? 658 01:05:11,036 --> 01:05:12,287 - Yes, 659 01:05:12,371 --> 01:05:13,705 - Of 76 Quota Street? 660 01:05:14,748 --> 01:05:16,959 - Is-- What is it you want, darling? 661 01:05:17,042 --> 01:05:18,752 - It's about Elizabeth, 662 01:05:18,836 --> 01:05:20,087 - Elizabeth-- Elizabeth who? 663 01:05:20,671 --> 01:05:24,383 - Baby Elizabeth Purley, 664 01:05:24,466 --> 01:05:26,510 - Leigh: The premise of how I get all these things happening 665 01:05:26,593 --> 01:05:29,721 is that nobody knows anything about any of the other action 666 01:05:29,805 --> 01:05:31,682 or characters except what their character would know, 667 01:05:32,808 --> 01:05:34,643 (retching, phone ringing) 668 01:05:34,726 --> 01:05:39,064 - She and I had decided that, uh, when this girl, woman, was 16, 669 01:05:41,650 --> 01:05:47,030 she was very, very vulnerable and very, um, susceptible to guys 670 01:05:47,114 --> 01:05:51,743 and was mistreated and exploited by guys, 671 01:05:53,912 --> 01:05:56,415 - I mean, I can't be your mother, can I? 672 01:05:56,498 --> 01:05:59,334 - Why not? - Well, look at me, 673 01:05:59,418 --> 01:06:00,669 - What? 674 01:06:00,752 --> 01:06:03,255 - Listen, I don't mean nothing by it, darling, 675 01:06:03,338 --> 01:06:06,049 but I ain't never been with a black man in my life, 676 01:06:06,133 --> 01:06:07,468 No disrespect nor nothing, 677 01:06:09,428 --> 01:06:11,221 I'd have remembered, wouldn't I? 678 01:06:12,890 --> 01:06:15,517 - Leigh: We had decided that she'd gone to a party, 679 01:06:15,601 --> 01:06:19,229 she'd had too much to drink and she'd gone with a black guy, 680 01:06:20,647 --> 01:06:23,150 She had a fuck with a black guy in the bathroom, 681 01:06:24,276 --> 01:06:26,278 - Oh, bloody hell, 682 01:06:27,029 --> 01:06:31,450 - We'd invented the fact that she'd had a baby and she'd given that baby away, 683 01:06:31,533 --> 01:06:35,454 - Oh, Jesus Christ almighty! 684 01:06:36,330 --> 01:06:38,499 (crying) 685 01:06:38,582 --> 01:06:39,833 - She'd forgotten, 686 01:06:39,917 --> 01:06:43,086 Brenda Blethyn, the actress, had forgotten that moment, 687 01:06:43,170 --> 01:06:47,341 So the shock that this woman was claiming to be her daughter was, 688 01:06:47,424 --> 01:06:48,884 she actually experienced it for real, 689 01:06:48,967 --> 01:06:51,136 - I'm sorry... I'm sorry, 690 01:07:00,312 --> 01:07:02,314 I'm so ashamed, 691 01:07:04,066 --> 01:07:08,737 - I had never saw a film that wasn't in English 'til I was 17, 692 01:07:09,988 --> 01:07:12,282 Suddenly, I discovered world cinema, 693 01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,745 Suddenly, in one explosive moment, it was all going on, 694 01:07:20,958 --> 01:07:24,795 You can't look at any of my work 695 01:07:24,878 --> 01:07:27,548 and say it's obviously influenced by "The Seventh Seal",,, 696 01:07:30,092 --> 01:07:32,928 But "The Seventh Seal" was a revelation at that time, 697 01:07:33,971 --> 01:07:35,764 (laughing) 698 01:07:35,847 --> 01:07:39,393 - You keep on rowing, I'll keep on smiling, 699 01:07:39,476 --> 01:07:43,480 - Leigh: I see the world as being deeply tragic and hilariously comic, 700 01:07:46,942 --> 01:07:48,443 And I actually like watching my films, 701 01:07:48,527 --> 01:07:52,239 There are film directors who-- who can't bear to watch their own films, 702 01:07:52,322 --> 01:07:54,491 Beats me how they expect you to enjoy them, 703 01:08:03,375 --> 01:08:07,421 My films are very much not only about people, but there are about place, 704 01:08:07,504 --> 01:08:11,258 Homes, of rooms, of things, of clothes, 705 01:08:11,341 --> 01:08:13,885 About... time passing, 706 01:08:15,387 --> 01:08:17,472 At the last scene of "Happy-Go-Lucky" 707 01:08:17,556 --> 01:08:20,517 when the two protagonists are in a rowing boat, 708 01:08:20,601 --> 01:08:23,770 you analyze it, there's something liberating about it 709 01:08:23,854 --> 01:08:26,231 and philosophical, they are being philosophical, 710 01:08:26,857 --> 01:08:29,401 All kinds of magical things happened and we did six takes 711 01:08:29,484 --> 01:08:33,280 and the one take that we used has got the birds flying through it, 712 01:08:35,115 --> 01:08:36,533 And that is cinema, 713 01:08:36,617 --> 01:08:37,618 You want to know what is cinema? 714 01:08:37,701 --> 01:08:38,952 That is cinema, 715 01:08:41,788 --> 01:08:44,374 (soft scraping) 716 01:08:54,176 --> 01:08:58,096 - Woman: Cinema is a matter of what's in the frame and what's out, 717 01:08:58,180 --> 01:08:59,431 (thumping) 718 01:09:00,349 --> 01:09:04,519 - Man: Cinema is writing with images and movement and with sounds, 719 01:09:07,356 --> 01:09:09,316 - woman: Images and sounds, 720 01:09:09,399 --> 01:09:11,443 like people who make acquaintance on a train 721 01:09:11,526 --> 01:09:13,362 and afterwards cannot separate, 722 01:09:14,363 --> 01:09:15,989 (train whistle blowing) 723 01:09:18,241 --> 01:09:21,578 - Man: An image is transformed by contact with another image, 724 01:09:22,245 --> 01:09:25,457 as a color is transformed by contact with another color, 725 01:09:25,540 --> 01:09:26,792 (shattering) 726 01:09:28,502 --> 01:09:31,380 The camera is more than a recorder, 727 01:09:31,463 --> 01:09:32,714 It's a microscope, 728 01:09:33,590 --> 01:09:34,841 It penetrates, 729 01:09:35,300 --> 01:09:36,677 It goes into people, 730 01:09:44,726 --> 01:09:46,728 - Woman: The essence of cinema is movement, 731 01:09:52,776 --> 01:09:56,029 - man: The most important thing in movies is lighting, 732 01:10:03,203 --> 01:10:05,288 - woman: The most important thing in movies is casting, 733 01:10:10,085 --> 01:10:15,257 - man: We are in a time now when movies, and more generally, art, 734 01:10:15,340 --> 01:10:21,346 have been lost, do not exist, and must somehow be reinvented, 735 01:10:25,016 --> 01:10:28,854 Like lost children, we live our unfinished adventures, 736 01:10:43,493 --> 01:10:46,079 (wind rushing) 737 01:11:03,263 --> 01:11:06,767 (chatter) 738 01:11:15,275 --> 01:11:18,487 - You know, mainstream movies are generally made in a certain way, 739 01:11:18,570 --> 01:11:20,572 they're supposed to tell a narrative, 740 01:11:21,990 --> 01:11:24,034 We were very conscious that we were doing, you know, 741 01:11:24,117 --> 01:11:25,952 an unconventional approach in that way 742 01:11:26,036 --> 01:11:30,332 where there was an outline for a script 743 01:11:30,415 --> 01:11:34,002 with some line, just points to kind of hit, 744 01:11:38,673 --> 01:11:39,758 - Press? 745 01:11:39,841 --> 01:11:41,092 Press? 746 01:11:42,135 --> 01:11:43,887 - Man: We'll knock on doors and make those phone calls! 747 01:11:43,970 --> 01:11:47,390 - Filmmakers can be a little bit arrogant, so you need to, 748 01:11:47,474 --> 01:11:51,061 sort of, check that at the door and look outside the viewfinder 749 01:11:51,144 --> 01:11:52,604 and be impacted by what you see, 750 01:11:52,687 --> 01:11:55,315 - We have an idea in our head and hopefully, you know, 751 01:11:55,398 --> 01:11:58,568 not too far into it, that idea changes, and if it doesn't, 752 01:11:58,652 --> 01:11:59,986 maybe we're making the wrong film, 753 01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:05,116 - Okay, guys, we have Michael Winterbottom-- director, 754 01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:06,284 - man: Michael, how are you doing? 755 01:12:06,368 --> 01:12:09,538 - It is a play, it is an experiment, it's an instinctive thing, 756 01:12:09,621 --> 01:12:13,291 rather than "this will mean this," I think, or "this will do this," 757 01:12:13,375 --> 01:12:17,504 When you're making a film, it's not like I don't care about the audience at all, 758 01:12:17,587 --> 01:12:19,631 It's not like I want to deliberately exclude an audience, 759 01:12:19,714 --> 01:12:22,175 but I think as a filmmaker, you can only make what you like, 760 01:12:22,259 --> 01:12:23,927 you can only make the things that you find interesting, 761 01:12:30,392 --> 01:12:37,607 - Cinema is the multiple network of... of technologies and ideas, 762 01:12:42,028 --> 01:12:47,450 And it will continue as long as humanity will continue, 763 01:13:00,046 --> 01:13:01,631 (siren blares) 764 01:13:32,829 --> 01:13:34,164 - Good evening! 765 01:13:34,247 --> 01:13:35,498 Good to see-- 766 01:13:35,582 --> 01:13:36,833 (applause) No... 767 01:13:36,917 --> 01:13:38,168 (speaking foreign language) 768 01:13:45,425 --> 01:13:48,261 (rattling) 769 01:13:50,764 --> 01:13:52,015 It's like cooking, 770 01:13:52,349 --> 01:13:54,017 It's not so much different, 771 01:13:54,976 --> 01:13:57,437 You have icebox full of stuff and-- 772 01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,940 but you are making one dish, 773 01:14:00,023 --> 01:14:04,194 so you don't just put everything, you just put what belongs to it, 774 01:14:06,363 --> 01:14:09,032 - man: What advice would you give to people? 775 01:14:09,950 --> 01:14:12,160 - Never give any advice to anybody, 776 01:14:12,243 --> 01:14:13,703 (laughing) 777 01:14:13,787 --> 01:14:17,791 - Man: This feels like your last film, but I assume it isn't, 778 01:14:19,501 --> 01:14:20,752 - No, it's up to you, 779 01:14:20,835 --> 01:14:22,087 (laughing) 780 01:14:26,591 --> 01:14:29,594 What managed to survive the wars, dictators, fanatics, fires, 781 01:14:32,681 --> 01:14:38,019 is because it's so rare that-- the reality recorded there, 782 01:14:38,603 --> 01:14:41,940 - Viola: Cinema is an artificial perception looking for an experience, 783 01:14:44,150 --> 01:14:49,364 Cinema is a series of frozen moments that might wake up, 784 01:14:51,616 --> 01:14:53,201 - Mekas: It's rare-- Special, 785 01:14:53,284 --> 01:14:54,536 Unique, 60293

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