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Joseph: 'The hoofs drew
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nearer.
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"They had no time to find any"
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hiding place better than the
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general darkness under the
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trees..
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"Sam and Pippin crouched"
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behind a large tree-bole,
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while Frodo crept back a
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few yards towards the lane.
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"It showed grey and pale,"
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a line of fading light
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through the woods.
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"Above it, the stars were"
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thick in the dim sky,
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but there was no moon.
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"The sound of hoofs"
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stopped.
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"As Frodo watched, he saw"
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something dark pass across
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the lighter space between
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2 trees, and then halt.
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"It looked like the black"
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shade of a horse led by
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a smaller black shadow.
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"The black shadow stood close"
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to the point where they had
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left the path, and it swayed
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from side to side.
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"Frodo thought he heard the"
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sound of snuffling.
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The shadow bent to the
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ground, and then began
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"to crawl towards him."
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These words are from the
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first book in "The Lord"
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of the Rings“trilogy,
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the most popular book
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of the 20th century.
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But did you know these
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books are Catholic?
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Hello, I'm Joseph Pearce and
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I'll be your guide as we
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explore "The Catholicism of."
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'The Lord of the Rings“.
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Joseph: "The Lord of the."
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"Rings," the most popular
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book of the 20th century and
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one of the greatest books
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ever written is a Catholic
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work, full to the brim with
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the truths of the Gospel,
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and there's no need to
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take my word for it.
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Here are the words of the
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author himself.
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Tolkien: "The Lord of the."
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"Rings" is, of course, a
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fundamentally religious and.
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Catholic work-unconsciously
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so at first, but consciously
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in the revision.
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Joseph: So there we
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have it, from the lips of.
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J.R.R.Tolkien, the author
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himself, in words written
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to his Jesuit friend.
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Fr. Robert Murray in 1953.
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But how is it fundamentally
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religious and Catholic?
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There's no mention of Christ
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or His Church anywhere in
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the book, not least because
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the story takes place
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thousands of years before
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Christ revealed Himself
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in the Person of Jesus.
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How can it be Catholic
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if there's no mention of
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Christ or Catholicism?
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This is the question that
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will be answered over the
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next hour as we explore the.
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Catholicism of "The Lord of"
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the Rings...
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First, however, let's learn
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a little more about Tolkien
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himself.
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He was born in Bloemfontein,
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in South Africa, on
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3 January, 1892, and was
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baptized 4 weeks later
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in the local Anglican
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cathedral.
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Both his parents were
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English, and the family
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were living in South Africa
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because of his father's
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position as manager of the
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Bloemfontein branch of the.
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Bank of Africa.
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Shortly after Tolkien's
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3rd birthday his mother
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returned to England, taking.
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Tolkien and his younger
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brother Hilary with her.
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His father, unable to vacate
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his post at the bank, was
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forced to remain behind,
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intending to follow his wife
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and children to England as
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soon as the opportunity
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arose.
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But tragedy struck the.
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Young family.
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Arthur Tolkien contracted
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rheumatic fever and died
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in Africa.
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The death of her husband
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plunged Mabel Tolkien into
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poverty.
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With 2 young sons, she
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relied on financial
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assistance from her family.
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Then in 1900, when Tolkien
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was 8 years old, Mabel.
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Tolkien was received into
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the Catholic Church.
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Furthermore, she began to
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instruct her sons in the.
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Catholic religion and they
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were duly received into the.
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Church also.
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Her family reacted with
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fury to her conversion,
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withdrawing their financial
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assistance and plunging her
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and her sons from poverty
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to penury.
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The strain affected her
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health adversely and Tolkien
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was convinced that his
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mother's early death, in
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1904 when he was only 12
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years old, was due to the
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persecution she experienced
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following her conversion to.
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Catholicism.
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Tolkien: My own dear mother
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was a martyr indeed, and it
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was not to everybody that.
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God grants so easy a way to.
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His great gifts as He did
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to Hilary and myself,
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giving us a mother who
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killed herself with labor
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and trouble to ensure us
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keeping the faith.
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Joseph: On another occasion,
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when confronted with the
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prospect of some of his own
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children's neglect of their
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faith, Tolkien remembered
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his mother's sanctity and
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loyalty to the faith.
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Tolkien: When I think of my
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mother's death... worn out
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with persecution, poverty,
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and largely consequent
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disease, in the effort to
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hand on to us small boys the
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faith, and remember the tiny
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bedroom she shared with us
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in rented rooms in a
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postman's cottage in Rednal,
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where she died alone,
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too ill for Viaticum,
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I find it very hard and
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bitter, when my children
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turn away.
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Joseph: After their mother's
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death, Fr. Francis Morgan
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of the Birmingham Oratory
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became the legal guardian
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of Tolkien and his brother.
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Tolkien would describe.
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Fr. Morgan as, "A guardian"
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who had been a father to me,
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"more than most real fathers."
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Tolkien went on to study.
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Classics at Oxford,
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receiving his degree in
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1915, before enlisting
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in the army.
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In the following year he
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married his childhood
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sweetheart; Edith Bra“,
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and 2 months afterwards,
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he sailed to France to take
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part in what he described
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as the animal horror and
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carnage of the Battle
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of the Somme,
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one of the most horrific
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battles in human history.
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It was also around this time
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that he began to invent
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the first of his Elvish
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languages, a hobby that
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would become the creative
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passion of his life,
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leading eventually to
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the publication of his
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masterpiece.
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John, the first of the 4.
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Tolkien children, who would
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later become a Jesuit
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priest, was born in 1917.
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Their 2nd son, Michael,
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followed in 1920;
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Christopher in 1924; And
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Priscilla, their only
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daughter and final child,
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was born in 1929.
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It was during this period
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that Tolkien, who was now
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teaching at Oxford.
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University, first met.
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C. S. Lewis.
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The 2 men were destined to
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form the most important
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literary friendship of the
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20th century, in spite of
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their differences when
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they first met.
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Tolkien was a devout.
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Catholic, whereas Lewis,
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born in the sectarian
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atmosphere of Protestant
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Belfast, in Northern
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Ireland, had been taught
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from childhood not to trust
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"papists," to employ the
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derogatory term with which.
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Ulster Protestants expressed
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their contempt for their.
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Catholic neighbors.
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Lewis: On my first coming
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into the world I had been
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implicitly warned never to
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trust a papist, and at my
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first coming into the
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English Faculty explicitly
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never to trust a
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philologist.
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Tolkien was both.
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Joseph: It would seem,
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therefore, that a friendship
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between Tolkien and Lewis
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was not very likely.
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What brought them together
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was a shared love for
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mythology, and particularly
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a love for Norse mythology.
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They became good friends
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after Lewis joined an
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informal club that had been
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founded by Tolkien with the
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single purpose of reading
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the Norse myths in their
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original language.
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Lewis had long since
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lapsed from his childhood.
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Protestantism and had
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become an atheist.
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And yet in September 1931,
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a long conversation between.
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Tolkien and Lewis on the
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subject of myth would be
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instrumental in Lewis'
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conversion to Christianity.
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It all began when Lewis
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provoked Tolkien by
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indicating that myths
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were lies.
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Tolkien: Including in fairy
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stories, which I think is
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rather ridiculous.
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After all, the magic of
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myths or fairy stories is
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not an end in itself.
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It exists to serve virtue
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and satisfies certain
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primordial human desires.
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Lewis: But myths are
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fiction.
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The stories they tell
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aren't true.
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They're lies, and therefore
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worthless, even though
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breathed through silver.
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They're just beautiful lies.
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You can't seriously believe
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in fairy stories.
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Tolkien: Why not?
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I can.
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In fact, I do.
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Lewis: But this is
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preposterous.
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How can you seriously
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believe a lie?
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Tolkien: Oh Jack, myths are
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not lies.
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In fact they're the opposite
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of a lie.
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Myths convey the essential
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truth, the primal reality of
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life itself.
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Lewis: Go on.
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Tolkien: Well, you see, we
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have been duped into using
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the word myth as being
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synonymous with a lie
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because we have been duped
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into accepting the first
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real lie of materialism.
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Lewis: And what is that?
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Tolkien: That is the hideous
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claim that there is no
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supernatural order to
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the universe.
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The materialists have
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imprisoned us in a world of
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mere matter, of physical
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facts divorced from and
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devoid of metaphysical
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truth.
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Well, I say that they're
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lying... I say that they are
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the ones who have come up
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with a false myth.
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Their world doesn't exist.
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It's merely a figment of
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their imagination.
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We're fine.
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However, there's a problem.
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The problem is, they have
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convinced us that it
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is true.
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They have made us believe
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that this is all there is...
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3 dimensions, 5 senses,
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4 walls.
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Lewis: Isn't it?
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Tolkien: Most emphatically
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not!
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Jack, the 4 walls of
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materialism are the 4 walls
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of a prison, and the
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materialists are our
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jailers.
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Don't you see, they've put
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us in a prison, a prison of
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4 walls?
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They don't want us to see
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what's beyond those walls.
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They don't want us to
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discover what lies outside
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their narrow philosophy.
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Worse than that, they think
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that any attempt to escape
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from the prison is an act
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of treason.
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Lewis: Why, wouldn't it be
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an act of treason against
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rationality to believe
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otherwise?
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Tolkien: Now Jack, think
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for a moment, how can it be
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wrong for a prisoner to
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think of things that exist
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other than walls or jailers?
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Doesn't the fact that the
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prisoner is able to think of
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things outside the walls,
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suggest that perhaps things
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do exist outside the walls?
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After all, if the prison
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really all there is, how are
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we able to picture things
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that exist beyond the.
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Prison?
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And this is where myths come
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in, you see.
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Myths exist outside the
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prison.
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Myths allow us to escape
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from the prison, or if we're
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not able to escape, at the
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very least, they allow us to
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catch a fleeting but oh-so-
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powerful glimpse of the
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beauty that lies beyond
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the walls.
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Lewis: But what is it that
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we're meant to be glimpsing?
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Tolkien: Well, don't you
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see?
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The truth, Jack.
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Myths show us a fleeting
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glimpse of the truth itself.
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Lewis: Truth? Truth!
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What on earth is this truth
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that you're talking about?
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Tolkien: Ah!
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"Quid est veritas;
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What is truth?"
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I'm glad to see that
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you've entered into the
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spirit of the myth, Jack!
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You've just cast yourself
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into the role of Pilate.
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Lewis: Pilate?
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Oh, I see!
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You're able to believe in
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the lesser myths because
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you've already accepted
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the big 1.
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Once you believe the big
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myth, the lie of Christ,
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it's easier to accept the
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smaller ones.
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All right, Toilers...
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I'll play the role of Pilate.
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I'll wash my hands
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of the whole nonsense!
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Tolkien: Well, Jack, you may
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be able to wash your hands,
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but your mind is still
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mudded.
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You're not thinking clearly
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at all, old chap.
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You're acting as if myths
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are mere arbitrary
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inventions of fiction,
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as if we pulled them
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out of thin air.
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But what you don't
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understand is that we make
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things by the law in which
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we are made.
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We create because
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we are created.
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Creativity, imagination
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is God's imageness in us.
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We tell stories because.
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God is a Story Teller.
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In fact, He's THE Story.
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Teller.
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We tell our stories with
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words.
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He tells His story with
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history.
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The facts of history are.
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His words, and providence
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is His storyline.
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Lewis: Are you suggesting
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that all of history, that
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everything around us is all
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part of some divine myth?
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Tolkien: We're all part of.
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His story.
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This very conversation is
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part of His story.
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Lewis: But perhaps it isn't.
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His story.
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Perhaps it's only your
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story.
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How can you know that your
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story, the story that you
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believe, the Christian
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story, is any more real
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than any other stories?
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Tolkien: But don't you see,
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it isn't my story, it's.
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His story.
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You're acting as if.
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Christianity is one myth
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among many.
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It's not.
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It's the true myth.
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Christianity really
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happened, Jesus really
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existed, so did Pilate.
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And yet, it is this true
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story that makes sense of
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all the other stories.
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It is the archetype, it is
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the story in which all the
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other stories have their
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source, and the story to
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which all the other stories
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point.
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It has everything.
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It has catastrophe and its
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opposite, what we might
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call eu-catastrophe.
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It has the joy of the happy
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ending, the sudden joyous
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turn and the story that is
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essential to all myths.
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It has to a sublime degree
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this joy of deliverance,
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this Evangelium, this
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fleeting glimpse of the real.
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Joy to which all other joys
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are but a distant echo.
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Lewis: Toilers, what did you
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mean by catastrophe and
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eu-catastrophe?
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Tolkien: Well, for example,
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it has the catastrophe
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of the fall and the
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eu-catastrophe of the
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redemption; It has the
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catastrophe of the.
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Crucifixion and the
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eu-catastrophe of the.
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Resurrection.
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It has everything that man's
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heart desires because it is
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being told by the One Who is
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the Fulfillment of desire
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itself.
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It is a story that begins
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and ends in joy.
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Lewis: But just because a
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story brings joy, it doesn't
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necessarily follow that
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it's true.
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There are many joyful myths.
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They all seem rather flimsy
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to me and ring rather false.
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Tolkien: And yet this story
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has the inner consistency
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of reality.
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There is no tale ever told
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that men would rather find
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was true, and none which
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so many skeptical men have
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accepted as true on its
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own merits.
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Lewis: Perhaps it's just a
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very well-written artifice.
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Tolkien: This story has the
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supremely convincing tone of
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primary art, not fiction,
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but of creation, and to
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reject this leads either to
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darkness or to wrath, and in
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my own life it has led me
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from darkness to light.
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Lewis: Astonishing!
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Toilers, you astonish me.
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You absolutely astonish me.
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Joseph: This conversation
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made such an impact on.
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C. S. Lewis that within a
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few weeks he was declaring
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to his friends that he had
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become a Christian.
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Tolkien: You may not believe
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this, but I've definitely
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started to believe in
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Christ, in Christianity, and
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the long night talk with.
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Tolkien had a great deal
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to do with it last week.
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Let me try to explain.
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The story of Christ is a
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true myth, a myth working on
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us in the same way as the
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others, but with this
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tremendous difference that
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it really happened, and one
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must be content to accept it
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in the same way, remembering
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that this is God's myth,
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where the other myths are
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men's myths, which is to say
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that the Pagan stories are.
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God expressing Himself
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through the minds of poets,
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using such images as He
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found there, while.
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Christianity is God
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expressing Himself through
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what we call real things.
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It is therefore true,
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not in the sense of being a
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description of God, which no
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finite mind could take in,
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but in the sense of being
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the way in which God chooses
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to appear to our faculties.
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Joseph: And so we see how.
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Tolkien was instrumental
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in the conversion of.
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C. S. Lewis.
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Isn't it astonishing to
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think that we don't only
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have Tolkien to thank for
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the brilliance of "The Lord"
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"of the Rings," but that we
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also have him to thank,
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indirectly, for "The."
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Chronicles of Narnia"
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and all of Lewis' other
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wonderful works of Christian
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literature?
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And speaking personally,
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I still remember my own
623
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first reading of"The Lord
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"of the Rings" and what a
625
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profoundly healthy effect
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it had upon me.
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At the time, I was a long
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way from any belief in.
629
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Christianity.
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I could not even envisage
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my own future conversion
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to Catholicism.
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Looking back, my journeying
634
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with Frodo into Middle-earth
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helped me to understand the
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true nature of heroism and
637
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to see that it is really
638
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the same thing as sanctity.
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Tolkien was one of the first
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people to show me the
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reality of holiness and to
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enkindle within me a desire
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for holiness myself.
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Like C. S. Lewis, I owe a
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great debt of gratitude to.
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J.R.R.Tolkien.
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It is now time that we
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turned our attention to the.
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Catholicism of "The Lord of"
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"the Rings" itself.
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We will remember that.
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Tolkien stated emphatically
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"that 'The Lord of the Rings"
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is a fundamentally religious
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and Catholic work, and on
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another occasion he spoke of
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a scale of significance with
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regard to his relationship
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as the author, with.
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"The Lord of the Rings,"
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as his work.
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At the bottom of the scale
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were what he called
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insignificant facts,
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which were irrelevant.
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Then there were more
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significant facts, such as
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his academic vocation as
669
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a philologist at Oxford.
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University, which had
671
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affected his taste in
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languages and which was,
673
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therefore, obviously a large
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ingredient in "The Lord of"
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the Rings...
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Yet even this was
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subservient to the most
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important factors.
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Tolkien: And there are a few
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basic facts, which however
681
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drily expressed, are really
682
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significant.
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For instance, I was born in
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1892 and lived for my early
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years in the shire, in a
686
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pre-mechanical age, or more
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important, I am a Christian,
688
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which can be deduced from
689
00:23:17,546 --> 00:23:19,640
my stories, and in fact,
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a Roman Catholic.
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Joseph: According to Tolkien
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himself, the fact that he is
693
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a Christian, which can be
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deduced form his stories,
695
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and in fact, a Roman.
696
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Catholic, was the more
697
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important of the really
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significant factors at the
699
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very top of the scale of
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significance relating to his
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relationship as author to.
702
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"The Lord of the Rings."
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Since this is so, we should
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not be surprised to discover
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"that 'The Lord of the Rings"
706
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is exactly what Tolkien
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00:23:48,844 --> 00:23:50,039
tells us it is... a
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fundamentally religious
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and Catholic work.
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So how exactly is it
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fundamentally religious
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and Catholic?
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Let's begin our exploration
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of the deepest Catholic
715
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significance of the book
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by starting at the very
717
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beginning of the story,
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with the Creation of.
719
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Middle-earth itself.
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Tolkien: There was Eru, the
721
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one, who in Arda is called
722
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lluvatar, and he made first
723
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the Ainur, the Holy Ones,
724
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that were the offspring of
725
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his thought, and they were
726
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with him before aught else
727
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was made.
728
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Joseph: In the beginning
729
00:24:34,956 --> 00:24:36,446
there was the one God,
730
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lluvatar, the All-Father,
731
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or Father of all, and He
732
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first made the Ainur,
733
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the Holy Ones, or Angels.
734
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It can be seen that Tolkien
735
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is at great pains from the
736
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beginning to make his
737
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sub-created world conform
738
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with the real created world,
739
00:24:53,542 --> 00:24:54,475
conforming his creation
740
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story to that in Genesis.
741
00:24:56,912 --> 00:24:58,107
Middle-earth has only one.
742
00:24:58,113 --> 00:25:00,912
God.
743
00:25:00,916 --> 00:25:03,317
It is a monotheistic cosmos,
744
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not a polytheistic cosmos
745
00:25:04,619 --> 00:25:06,383
like that of the Pagans.
746
00:25:06,388 --> 00:25:07,617
Still less is it an
747
00:25:07,622 --> 00:25:08,612
atheistic cosmos like
748
00:25:08,623 --> 00:25:10,057
that of the modern-day
749
00:25:10,058 --> 00:25:12,823
materialists.
750
00:25:12,827 --> 00:25:14,090
It is also a fallen cosmos,
751
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due to the rebellion of
752
00:25:15,597 --> 00:25:17,565
satan, whom the elves
753
00:25:17,566 --> 00:25:22,060
call Melkor or Morgoth.
754
00:25:22,070 --> 00:25:23,265
The parallels with.
755
00:25:23,271 --> 00:25:25,797
Christianity are
756
00:25:25,807 --> 00:25:27,901
unmistakable.
757
00:25:27,909 --> 00:25:28,774
Melkor is described by.
758
00:25:28,777 --> 00:25:29,767
Tolkien as the greatest of
759
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the Ainur, as Lucifer was
760
00:25:30,946 --> 00:25:33,040
the greatest of the angels.
761
00:25:33,048 --> 00:25:34,481
Like Lucifer, Melkor is
762
00:25:34,482 --> 00:25:35,472
the embodiment and the
763
00:25:35,483 --> 00:25:37,008
ultimate source of the
764
00:25:37,018 --> 00:25:39,680
sin of pride, intent on
765
00:25:39,688 --> 00:25:40,849
corrupting mankind for
766
00:25:40,855 --> 00:25:44,792
his own purposes.
767
00:25:44,793 --> 00:25:45,817
When God proclaims a great
768
00:25:45,827 --> 00:25:47,591
music, Melkor refuses to
769
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play in harmony with the
770
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rest of the angelic beings
771
00:25:51,433 --> 00:25:52,423
and disharmony enters the
772
00:25:52,434 --> 00:25:55,563
cosmos.
773
00:25:55,570 --> 00:25:56,731
God's response is replete
774
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with the deepest mystical
775
00:25:58,740 --> 00:26:01,208
theology as He declares to.
776
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Melkor, or satan, that his
777
00:26:02,944 --> 00:26:05,140
evil is not only ultimately
778
00:26:05,146 --> 00:26:06,170
doomed to failure but that.
779
00:26:06,181 --> 00:26:08,707
God will bring great
780
00:26:08,717 --> 00:26:10,515
goodness out of the very
781
00:26:10,518 --> 00:26:12,850
evil itself, beyond satan's
782
00:26:12,854 --> 00:26:17,189
wildest imaginings.
783
00:26:17,192 --> 00:26:18,216
These are God's words to
784
00:26:18,226 --> 00:26:20,194
satan-Melkor after satan had
785
00:26:20,195 --> 00:26:22,186
introduced his discordant
786
00:26:22,197 --> 00:26:23,961
themes into the harmony of
787
00:26:23,965 --> 00:26:26,730
the great Music of Creation.
788
00:26:30,639 --> 00:26:32,334
Lluvatar: No theme may be
789
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played that hath not its
790
00:26:33,408 --> 00:26:37,538
uttermost source in me.
791
00:26:37,545 --> 00:26:39,104
He that attempteth this
792
00:26:39,114 --> 00:26:41,674
shall prove but mine
793
00:26:41,683 --> 00:26:43,242
instrument in the devising
794
00:26:43,251 --> 00:26:45,777
of things more wonderful,
795
00:26:45,787 --> 00:26:47,380
which he himself hath not
796
00:26:47,389 --> 00:26:52,589
imagined.
797
00:26:52,594 --> 00:26:53,493
Joseph: The parallels with
798
00:26:53,495 --> 00:26:54,485
Genesis become even more
799
00:26:54,496 --> 00:26:55,395
obvious when Tolkien
800
00:26:55,397 --> 00:26:56,990
describes the war between.
801
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Melkor and Manwe, the latter
802
00:26:59,234 --> 00:27:00,258
of whom is clearly cast in
803
00:27:00,268 --> 00:27:01,463
the role of the Archangel
804
00:27:01,469 --> 00:27:03,437
Michael.
805
00:27:07,309 --> 00:27:08,538
Narrator: When therefore.
806
00:27:08,543 --> 00:27:09,374
Earth was yet young and full
807
00:27:09,377 --> 00:27:11,937
of flame Melkor coveted it,
808
00:27:11,946 --> 00:27:13,436
and he said to the other.
809
00:27:13,448 --> 00:27:14,847
Valar, "This shall be my own"
810
00:27:14,849 --> 00:27:16,146
kingdom, and I name it unto
811
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"myself!"
812
00:27:18,987 --> 00:27:20,682
But Manwe was the brother
813
00:27:20,689 --> 00:27:21,679
of Melkor in the mind of
814
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lluvatar, and he was the
815
00:27:23,758 --> 00:27:25,123
chief instrument of the 2nd
816
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theme that lluvatar raised
817
00:27:27,195 --> 00:27:28,492
up against the discord of.
818
00:27:28,496 --> 00:27:31,124
Melkor, and Manwe said unto.
819
00:27:31,132 --> 00:27:32,691
Melkor, "This kingdom thou"
820
00:27:32,701 --> 00:27:35,135
shalt not take for thine
821
00:27:35,136 --> 00:27:37,662
own, wrongfully, for many
822
00:27:37,672 --> 00:27:38,639
others have labored here
823
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,507
no less than thou.
824
00:27:41,509 --> 00:27:42,601
And there was strife
825
00:27:42,610 --> 00:27:43,634
between Melkor and the
826
00:27:43,645 --> 00:27:45,340
other Valar.
827
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Joseph: The fact that
828
00:27:50,085 --> 00:27:51,109
Tolkien's Melkor is merely
829
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,018
another name for satan is
830
00:27:52,020 --> 00:27:54,011
made even more manifest
831
00:27:54,022 --> 00:27:54,921
when Tolkien connects
832
00:27:54,923 --> 00:27:56,948
them linguistically.
833
00:27:56,958 --> 00:27:57,982
Tolkien explains that
834
00:27:57,992 --> 00:27:59,983
the name Melkor means.
835
00:27:59,994 --> 00:28:02,986
"He who arises in Might."
836
00:28:08,169 --> 00:28:09,295
Narrator: But that name
837
00:28:09,304 --> 00:28:10,863
he has forfeited and the
838
00:28:10,872 --> 00:28:12,339
Noldor, who among the Elves
839
00:28:12,340 --> 00:28:13,569
suffered most from his
840
00:28:13,575 --> 00:28:16,203
malice, will not utter it,
841
00:28:16,211 --> 00:28:19,237
and they name him Morgoth,
842
00:28:19,247 --> 00:28:27,247
the Dark Enemy of the World.
843
00:28:30,558 --> 00:28:32,390
Joseph: Similarly, Lucifer,
844
00:28:32,394 --> 00:28:33,293
brightest of the angels,
845
00:28:33,294 --> 00:28:35,262
means “fight bearer, “
846
00:28:35,263 --> 00:28:36,753
whereas satan, like.
847
00:28:36,765 --> 00:28:40,531
Morgoth, means enemy.
848
00:28:40,535 --> 00:28:41,764
Morgoth means enemy, satan
849
00:28:41,770 --> 00:28:44,068
means enemy; Therefore.
850
00:28:44,072 --> 00:28:46,837
Morgoth means satan.
851
00:28:46,841 --> 00:28:47,808
They are simply different
852
00:28:47,809 --> 00:28:50,642
words for the same thing.
853
00:28:50,645 --> 00:28:54,081
Morgoth is satan.
854
00:28:54,082 --> 00:28:55,311
Tolkien's intention, both
855
00:28:55,316 --> 00:28:57,080
as a Christian and as a
856
00:28:57,085 --> 00:28:58,575
philologist, in identifying.
857
00:28:58,586 --> 00:29:00,577
Melkor with Lucifer is
858
00:29:00,588 --> 00:29:03,148
beyond question.
859
00:29:03,158 --> 00:29:04,819
Even the way that Tolkien
860
00:29:04,826 --> 00:29:07,454
describes the fall of Melkor
861
00:29:07,462 --> 00:29:08,987
or satan in the Silmarillion
862
00:29:08,997 --> 00:29:10,123
is similar to the way that
863
00:29:10,131 --> 00:29:11,098
satan's fall is described
864
00:29:11,099 --> 00:29:15,195
in the Book of Isaiah.
865
00:29:15,203 --> 00:29:19,765
First, the Book of Isaiah.
866
00:29:19,774 --> 00:29:21,037
Woman: Thy pomp is brought
867
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down to the grave, and
868
00:29:22,877 --> 00:29:26,336
the noise of thy viols,
869
00:29:26,347 --> 00:29:27,746
the worm is spread under
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00:29:27,749 --> 00:29:29,716
thee, and the worms
871
00:29:29,717 --> 00:29:32,345
cover thee.
872
00:29:32,353 --> 00:29:33,752
How art thou fallen
873
00:29:33,755 --> 00:29:35,587
from Heaven, O Lucifer,
874
00:29:35,590 --> 00:29:38,924
son of the morning?
875
00:29:38,927 --> 00:29:39,860
Joseph: And this is how.
876
00:29:39,861 --> 00:29:40,760
Tolkien describes the
877
00:29:40,762 --> 00:29:45,359
same fall.
878
00:29:45,366 --> 00:29:46,356
Tolkien: From splendor he
879
00:29:46,367 --> 00:29:48,199
fell through arrogance to
880
00:29:48,203 --> 00:29:50,934
contempt for all things save
881
00:29:50,939 --> 00:29:55,274
himself, a spirit wasteful
882
00:29:55,276 --> 00:29:58,769
and pitiless.
883
00:29:58,780 --> 00:30:00,578
Understanding, he turned to
884
00:30:00,582 --> 00:30:03,643
subtlety in perverting to
885
00:30:03,651 --> 00:30:05,585
his own will all that he
886
00:30:05,587 --> 00:30:08,648
could use, until he became
887
00:30:08,656 --> 00:30:11,626
a liar without shame.
888
00:30:15,964 --> 00:30:18,023
He began with the desire of
889
00:30:18,032 --> 00:30:20,831
light, but when he could not
890
00:30:20,835 --> 00:30:22,894
possess it for himself
891
00:30:22,904 --> 00:30:26,499
alone, he descended through
892
00:30:26,508 --> 00:30:29,967
fire and wrath into great
893
00:30:29,978 --> 00:30:35,473
burning, down into darkness,
894
00:30:35,483 --> 00:30:37,281
and darkness he used most
895
00:30:37,285 --> 00:30:41,518
in his evil works upon Arda,
896
00:30:41,523 --> 00:30:43,617
and filled it with fear
897
00:30:43,625 --> 00:30:48,586
for all living things.
898
00:30:48,596 --> 00:30:49,825
Joseph: As well as the
899
00:30:49,831 --> 00:30:51,230
scriptural influence,
900
00:30:51,232 --> 00:30:53,064
the other over-riding
901
00:30:53,067 --> 00:30:54,398
influence is a profoundly
902
00:30:54,402 --> 00:30:55,528
orthodox understanding of.
903
00:30:55,537 --> 00:30:58,700
Augustinian theology.
904
00:30:58,706 --> 00:31:00,071
Evil, as symbolized by
905
00:31:00,074 --> 00:31:01,769
darkness, has no value
906
00:31:01,776 --> 00:31:03,710
of its own but is only a
907
00:31:03,711 --> 00:31:05,145
negation of that which is
908
00:31:05,146 --> 00:31:06,375
good, as symbolized by
909
00:31:06,381 --> 00:31:08,873
light.
910
00:31:08,883 --> 00:31:09,816
This understanding of the
911
00:31:09,817 --> 00:31:11,717
parasitic nature of evil
912
00:31:11,719 --> 00:31:13,448
permeates Tolkien's work
913
00:31:13,454 --> 00:31:14,979
and is especially true of
914
00:31:14,989 --> 00:31:16,252
the depiction of evil in.
915
00:31:16,257 --> 00:31:18,817
"The Lord of the Rings."
916
00:31:18,826 --> 00:31:20,590
Shortly after Tolkien
917
00:31:20,595 --> 00:31:21,687
describes the fall of
918
00:31:21,696 --> 00:31:23,095
satan, or Melkor, in "The".
919
00:31:23,097 --> 00:31:24,121
"Silmarillion" he introduces
920
00:31:24,132 --> 00:31:25,531
Sauron, the Dark Lord in.
921
00:31:25,533 --> 00:31:28,230
"The Lord of the Rings."
922
00:31:28,236 --> 00:31:29,203
He is described as the
923
00:31:29,204 --> 00:31:30,693
greatest of Melkor's
924
00:31:30,705 --> 00:31:32,298
servants.
925
00:31:32,307 --> 00:31:33,240
In other words, Sauron, the
926
00:31:33,241 --> 00:31:34,731
evil power in "The Lord of"
927
00:31:34,742 --> 00:31:35,800
"the Rings" is revealed to us
928
00:31:35,810 --> 00:31:37,073
as the greatest of satan's
929
00:31:37,078 --> 00:31:42,516
servants.
930
00:31:42,517 --> 00:31:43,416
Tolkien: But in after years
931
00:31:43,418 --> 00:31:45,011
he rose like a shadow of.
932
00:31:45,019 --> 00:31:47,181
Morgoth and a ghost of his
933
00:31:47,188 --> 00:31:48,952
malice, and walked behind
934
00:31:48,957 --> 00:31:50,721
him on the same ruinous path
935
00:31:50,725 --> 00:31:57,290
down into the Void.
936
00:31:57,298 --> 00:31:58,697
Joseph: It is abundantly
937
00:31:58,700 --> 00:32:00,361
clear, therefore, that the
938
00:32:00,368 --> 00:32:01,267
evil powers in 'The Lord of
939
00:32:01,269 --> 00:32:02,668
"the Rings" are specified as
940
00:32:02,670 --> 00:32:04,695
servants of satan, rendering
941
00:32:04,706 --> 00:32:06,538
impossible, or at least
942
00:32:06,541 --> 00:32:08,236
implausible, anything but a
943
00:32:08,242 --> 00:32:10,210
theistic interpretation of
944
00:32:10,211 --> 00:32:13,374
the book.
945
00:32:13,381 --> 00:32:14,906
And the symbolic connection
946
00:32:14,916 --> 00:32:16,213
of the evil characters with
947
00:32:16,217 --> 00:32:18,151
satan is made even more
948
00:32:18,152 --> 00:32:19,210
apparent in the way that.
949
00:32:19,220 --> 00:32:20,346
Tolkien uses linguistic
950
00:32:20,355 --> 00:32:21,845
connections to suggest
951
00:32:21,856 --> 00:32:24,450
the satanic dimension.
952
00:32:24,459 --> 00:32:25,620
Tolkien, remember, was a
953
00:32:25,627 --> 00:32:27,391
linguist, a professor of
954
00:32:27,395 --> 00:32:28,920
philology at Oxford.
955
00:32:28,930 --> 00:32:31,058
University, and he often
956
00:32:31,065 --> 00:32:32,191
employs linguistic clues
957
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,603
to his deepest meaning.
958
00:32:36,604 --> 00:32:37,594
Take, for instance, the name
959
00:32:37,605 --> 00:32:39,232
of Sauron, the Dark Lord of.
960
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,039
"The Lord of the Rings.
961
00:32:42,043 --> 00:32:44,603
The letters "saur" come
962
00:32:44,612 --> 00:32:45,704
from the Greek word sauros
963
00:32:45,713 --> 00:32:51,015
meaning lizard or dragon,
964
00:32:51,019 --> 00:32:52,282
and we know, of course, that
965
00:32:52,286 --> 00:32:54,311
in mediaeval typology, and
966
00:32:54,322 --> 00:32:55,346
in Christian iconography
967
00:32:55,356 --> 00:32:57,381
down the ages, the lizard
968
00:32:57,392 --> 00:32:58,917
or dragon or serpent is a
969
00:32:58,926 --> 00:33:02,419
symbol of satan.
970
00:33:02,430 --> 00:33:03,488
Clearly Tolkien wants us
971
00:33:03,498 --> 00:33:04,988
to see Sauron as satanic.
972
00:33:04,999 --> 00:33:06,967
Similarly, one does not have
973
00:33:06,968 --> 00:33:08,094
to be an expert in anagrams
974
00:33:08,102 --> 00:33:11,868
to see that Saruman includes
975
00:33:11,873 --> 00:33:14,899
the same 4 letters, s-a-u-r,
976
00:33:14,909 --> 00:33:15,967
in a slightly rearranged
977
00:33:15,977 --> 00:33:18,139
order.
978
00:33:18,146 --> 00:33:19,136
Saruman, like Sauron,
979
00:33:19,147 --> 00:33:22,515
is satanic.
980
00:33:22,517 --> 00:33:24,508
And what about Wormtongue?
981
00:33:24,519 --> 00:33:26,248
Well, the Old English word
982
00:33:26,254 --> 00:33:27,483
for dragon or serpent was
983
00:33:27,488 --> 00:33:31,049
wyrm, spelled w-y-r-m,
984
00:33:31,059 --> 00:33:32,857
or worm.
985
00:33:32,860 --> 00:33:34,259
Wormtongue means
986
00:33:34,262 --> 00:33:35,252
serpent-tongue or
987
00:33:35,263 --> 00:33:36,924
dragon-tongue, or, by
988
00:33:36,931 --> 00:33:39,866
extension, devil-tongue.
989
00:33:39,867 --> 00:33:40,834
As if this isn't obvious
990
00:33:40,835 --> 00:33:41,859
enough, Tolkien makes the
991
00:33:41,869 --> 00:33:43,359
satanic connection even
992
00:33:43,371 --> 00:33:45,362
more clear in the way that
993
00:33:45,373 --> 00:33:46,499
Gandalf calls Wormtongue a
994
00:33:46,507 --> 00:33:48,874
snake, commanding him to get
995
00:33:48,876 --> 00:33:50,810
down on his belly in words
996
00:33:50,812 --> 00:33:52,746
that echo Gods punishment
997
00:33:52,747 --> 00:33:56,183
of satan.
998
00:33:56,184 --> 00:33:57,515
Gandalf: Down snake!
999
00:33:57,518 --> 00:33:59,384
Down on your belly!
1000
00:33:59,387 --> 00:34:00,877
See, Theoden, here is
1001
00:34:00,888 --> 00:34:04,586
a snake!
1002
00:34:04,592 --> 00:34:05,559
Joseph: As if to emphasize.
1003
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:06,584
Wormtongues serpentine
1004
00:34:06,594 --> 00:34:07,652
character, Tolkien describes.
1005
00:34:07,662 --> 00:34:09,653
Wormtongue's reaction.
1006
00:34:09,664 --> 00:34:10,688
Narrator: He bared his
1007
00:34:10,698 --> 00:34:13,667
teeth, and then with a
1008
00:34:13,668 --> 00:34:16,433
hissing breath he spat
1009
00:34:16,437 --> 00:34:18,838
before the king's feet.
1010
00:34:22,777 --> 00:34:23,573
Joseph: So much for the role
1011
00:34:23,578 --> 00:34:24,739
of satanic evil in 'The Lord
1012
00:34:24,746 --> 00:34:25,838
"of the Rings," but now it's
1013
00:34:25,847 --> 00:34:26,780
time to reveal the secret
1014
00:34:26,781 --> 00:34:28,078
that unlocks the
1015
00:34:28,082 --> 00:34:29,777
fundamentally and religious
1016
00:34:29,784 --> 00:34:33,118
dimension of the whole work.
1017
00:34:33,121 --> 00:34:35,283
The fact is that Tolkien
1018
00:34:35,289 --> 00:34:36,222
hides a key within the
1019
00:34:36,224 --> 00:34:37,453
story, a key that, once
1020
00:34:37,458 --> 00:34:38,925
discovered, allows us
1021
00:34:38,926 --> 00:34:41,054
to unlock the deepest
1022
00:34:41,062 --> 00:34:43,588
Christian theology at the
1023
00:34:43,598 --> 00:34:46,090
heart of the drama.
1024
00:34:46,100 --> 00:34:49,695
What is the key?
1025
00:34:49,704 --> 00:34:50,694
It's to be found in the date
1026
00:34:50,705 --> 00:34:52,469
on which Tolkien tells us
1027
00:34:52,473 --> 00:34:54,407
that the ring is destroyed,
1028
00:34:54,408 --> 00:34:56,035
or unmade.
1029
00:34:56,043 --> 00:34:58,876
That date is March 25th... a
1030
00:34:58,880 --> 00:34:59,972
date that every Catholic
1031
00:34:59,981 --> 00:35:01,574
knows is perhaps the most
1032
00:35:01,582 --> 00:35:02,743
significant and important
1033
00:35:02,750 --> 00:35:04,309
date on the whole Christian
1034
00:35:04,318 --> 00:35:08,016
calendar.
1035
00:35:08,022 --> 00:35:09,183
March 25th is the Feast of
1036
00:35:09,190 --> 00:35:10,988
the Annunciation, the date
1037
00:35:10,992 --> 00:35:12,255
on which the Archangel
1038
00:35:12,260 --> 00:35:13,489
Gabriel appears to the.
1039
00:35:13,494 --> 00:35:15,758
Blessed Virgin, and more
1040
00:35:15,763 --> 00:35:17,629
important, it is the date on
1041
00:35:17,632 --> 00:35:19,498
which Jesus is conceived in.
1042
00:35:19,500 --> 00:35:22,299
His Mother's womb, it is the
1043
00:35:22,303 --> 00:35:23,270
date on which the Word is
1044
00:35:23,271 --> 00:35:25,399
made Flesh, the date on
1045
00:35:25,406 --> 00:35:28,205
which God becomes Man.
1046
00:35:28,209 --> 00:35:29,142
It is a more important date
1047
00:35:29,143 --> 00:35:30,167
than Christmas because life
1048
00:35:30,178 --> 00:35:31,304
begins at conception,
1049
00:35:31,312 --> 00:35:34,475
not at birth.
1050
00:35:34,482 --> 00:35:35,472
God did not become Man
1051
00:35:35,483 --> 00:35:36,507
at Christmas, but at
1052
00:35:36,517 --> 00:35:39,009
the Annunciation.
1053
00:35:39,020 --> 00:35:40,044
The Incarnation happens
1054
00:35:40,054 --> 00:35:42,045
at the Annunciation.
1055
00:35:42,056 --> 00:35:43,649
It happens on March 25th,
1056
00:35:43,658 --> 00:35:44,625
the date on which the Ring
1057
00:35:44,626 --> 00:35:46,389
is destroyed!
1058
00:35:46,394 --> 00:35:50,194
And that's not all.
1059
00:35:50,198 --> 00:35:51,097
Many medievals believed that
1060
00:35:51,098 --> 00:35:52,156
the Crucifixion also
1061
00:35:52,166 --> 00:35:54,897
happened on March 25th.
1062
00:35:54,902 --> 00:35:56,392
Of course, we celebrate Good
1063
00:35:56,404 --> 00:35:58,771
Friday as a moveable feast.
1064
00:35:58,773 --> 00:35:59,535
It is celebrated on a
1065
00:35:59,540 --> 00:36:01,474
different date each year.
1066
00:36:01,475 --> 00:36:02,533
But the Crucifixion, as an
1067
00:36:02,543 --> 00:36:04,102
historical event, happened
1068
00:36:04,111 --> 00:36:05,442
once on a particular day in
1069
00:36:05,446 --> 00:36:07,744
history.
1070
00:36:07,748 --> 00:36:08,544
That day, so the medievals
1071
00:36:08,549 --> 00:36:11,541
believed, was March 25th,
1072
00:36:11,552 --> 00:36:12,417
thus connecting Christ's.
1073
00:36:12,420 --> 00:36:16,880
Death to His Incarnation.
1074
00:36:16,891 --> 00:36:17,858
And what do these 2 events
1075
00:36:17,859 --> 00:36:18,985
signify, taken together
1076
00:36:18,993 --> 00:36:20,984
with the Resurrection?
1077
00:36:20,995 --> 00:36:21,985
They signify man's
1078
00:36:21,996 --> 00:36:23,293
redemption from Original.
1079
00:36:23,297 --> 00:36:25,265
Sin, and what is.
1080
00:36:25,266 --> 00:36:27,667
Original Sin?
1081
00:36:27,668 --> 00:36:28,897
It is the one sin to rule
1082
00:36:28,903 --> 00:36:30,871
them all and in the darkness
1083
00:36:30,872 --> 00:36:32,067
bind them, just as the one
1084
00:36:32,073 --> 00:36:34,565
ring is the one ring to rule
1085
00:36:34,575 --> 00:36:36,065
them all and in the darkness
1086
00:36:36,077 --> 00:36:39,980
bind them.
1087
00:36:39,981 --> 00:36:46,785
The one ring is the same as
1088
00:36:46,787 --> 00:36:48,448
the one sin and they're both
1089
00:36:48,456 --> 00:36:50,686
destroyed or unmade on the
1090
00:36:50,691 --> 00:36:55,788
same day... March 25th!
1091
00:36:55,796 --> 00:36:57,821
This is no coincidence,
1092
00:36:57,832 --> 00:36:58,993
but is the very key that
1093
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,365
unlocks the deep theology
1094
00:37:00,368 --> 00:37:01,699
and deepest meaning of.
1095
00:37:01,702 --> 00:37:04,262
"The Lord of the Rings."
1096
00:37:04,272 --> 00:37:05,739
The one ring is nothing
1097
00:37:05,740 --> 00:37:07,936
less than a symbol of.
1098
00:37:07,942 --> 00:37:10,502
Original Sin itself, and
1099
00:37:10,511 --> 00:37:12,479
by extension, a symbol of
1100
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,574
actual, individual sin also.
1101
00:37:14,582 --> 00:37:17,550
So how does this sin
1102
00:37:17,551 --> 00:37:18,541
manifest itself in the
1103
00:37:18,552 --> 00:37:20,281
story?
1104
00:37:20,288 --> 00:37:21,221
Well, what happens when
1105
00:37:21,222 --> 00:37:23,247
you put the ring on?
1106
00:37:23,257 --> 00:37:24,588
It's a good question,
1107
00:37:24,592 --> 00:37:27,084
and a crucial one.
1108
00:37:27,094 --> 00:37:27,959
Many of you might be
1109
00:37:27,962 --> 00:37:29,396
thinking that the wearer of
1110
00:37:29,397 --> 00:37:30,455
the ring becomes invisible
1111
00:37:30,464 --> 00:37:32,398
when he puts the ring on.
1112
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,732
But does he?
1113
00:37:34,735 --> 00:37:37,102
Think about it a bit more
1114
00:37:37,104 --> 00:37:38,003
carefully.
1115
00:37:38,005 --> 00:37:38,938
What actually happens is
1116
00:37:38,940 --> 00:37:40,533
that the wearer of the ring
1117
00:37:40,541 --> 00:37:42,600
becomes invisible in the.
1118
00:37:42,610 --> 00:37:45,011
Good World that God made,
1119
00:37:45,012 --> 00:37:46,537
but becomes more visible to
1120
00:37:46,547 --> 00:37:48,413
the eye of Sauron, to the
1121
00:37:48,416 --> 00:37:50,510
eye of satan.
1122
00:38:02,530 --> 00:38:05,932
Tolkien: And suddenly, he was
1123
00:38:05,933 --> 00:38:10,393
aware of the eye.
1124
00:38:10,404 --> 00:38:11,929
There was an eye in the dark
1125
00:38:11,939 --> 00:38:13,634
tower that did not sleep.
1126
00:38:16,877 --> 00:38:17,742
He knew that it had become
1127
00:38:17,745 --> 00:38:20,942
aware of his gaze.
1128
00:38:20,948 --> 00:38:22,245
A fierce eager will
1129
00:38:22,249 --> 00:38:24,115
was there.
1130
00:38:24,118 --> 00:38:25,244
It leaped towards him.
1131
00:38:25,252 --> 00:38:26,378
Almost like a finger, he felt
1132
00:38:26,387 --> 00:38:28,048
it searching for him.
1133
00:38:28,055 --> 00:38:28,988
Very soon it would nail him
1134
00:38:28,990 --> 00:38:30,321
down, know just exactly
1135
00:38:30,324 --> 00:38:32,053
where he was.
1136
00:38:32,059 --> 00:38:33,288
Amen Lhaw it touched.
1137
00:38:33,294 --> 00:38:36,889
It glanced upon Tol Brandir.
1138
00:38:36,897 --> 00:38:37,921
He threw himself from the
1139
00:38:37,932 --> 00:38:39,366
seat, crouching, covering
1140
00:38:39,367 --> 00:38:40,391
his head with this grey
1141
00:38:40,401 --> 00:38:42,733
hood.
1142
00:38:42,737 --> 00:38:44,170
He heard himself crying out,
1143
00:38:44,171 --> 00:38:46,299
"Never, never!"
1144
00:38:46,307 --> 00:38:49,140
Or was it, "Verily",
1145
00:38:49,143 --> 00:38:55,606
I come to you!"
1146
00:38:55,616 --> 00:38:57,983
He could not tell.
1147
00:39:01,389 --> 00:39:02,618
Then as a flash from some
1148
00:39:02,623 --> 00:39:04,523
other point of power there
1149
00:39:04,525 --> 00:39:06,493
came to his mind another
1150
00:39:06,494 --> 00:39:09,953
thought, "Take it off, fool!"
1151
00:39:09,964 --> 00:39:11,022
"Take it off!"
1152
00:39:11,032 --> 00:39:13,933
Take off the Ring.
1153
00:39:13,934 --> 00:39:17,564
The 2 powers strove in him.
1154
00:39:17,571 --> 00:39:19,835
For a moment, perfectly
1155
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,467
balanced between the
1156
00:39:21,475 --> 00:39:23,773
piercing points, he writhed,
1157
00:39:23,778 --> 00:39:29,376
tormented.
1158
00:39:29,383 --> 00:39:32,478
Suddenly he was aware of
1159
00:39:32,486 --> 00:39:38,789
himself again, Frodo,
1160
00:39:38,793 --> 00:39:39,885
neither the voice nor the
1161
00:39:39,894 --> 00:39:42,864
eye, and free to choose,
1162
00:39:48,469 --> 00:39:49,766
and with one instant
1163
00:39:49,770 --> 00:39:53,673
remaining in which to do so.
1164
00:39:53,674 --> 00:39:55,836
He took the ring from off
1165
00:39:55,843 --> 00:39:59,711
his finger.
1166
00:40:05,286 --> 00:40:07,516
Joseph: In other words, when
1167
00:40:07,521 --> 00:40:09,216
we put the ring on, when we
1168
00:40:09,223 --> 00:40:11,021
put sin on, we excommunicate
1169
00:40:11,025 --> 00:40:12,992
ourselves from Gods world,
1170
00:40:12,993 --> 00:40:15,189
the world of goodness, and
1171
00:40:15,196 --> 00:40:18,063
enter into satan's world.
1172
00:40:18,065 --> 00:40:18,998
Will we listen to the voice
1173
00:40:18,999 --> 00:40:21,058
or will we succumb to the
1174
00:40:21,068 --> 00:40:23,366
eye of Sauron?
1175
00:40:23,370 --> 00:40:24,269
Will we heed the voice of
1176
00:40:24,271 --> 00:40:25,830
conscience or will we
1177
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,400
choose the evil?
1178
00:40:28,409 --> 00:40:30,070
It is a crucial question,
1179
00:40:30,077 --> 00:40:31,203
a matter of eternal life
1180
00:40:31,212 --> 00:40:32,771
and death.
1181
00:40:32,780 --> 00:40:33,645
If we choose the evil and
1182
00:40:33,647 --> 00:40:35,308
allow the sin to become
1183
00:40:35,316 --> 00:40:36,613
habit-forming, we become
1184
00:40:36,617 --> 00:40:39,018
addicted to it.
1185
00:40:39,019 --> 00:40:41,215
It becomes our precious.
1186
00:40:41,222 --> 00:40:44,657
Eventually we become less
1187
00:40:44,658 --> 00:40:45,819
and less like the good
1188
00:40:45,826 --> 00:40:47,726
person, or good hobbit, that
1189
00:40:47,728 --> 00:40:49,628
we were meant to be, and
1190
00:40:49,630 --> 00:40:50,563
become more and more like a
1191
00:40:50,564 --> 00:40:53,329
hideous and pathetic parody
1192
00:40:53,334 --> 00:40:56,497
of who we were meant to be.
1193
00:40:56,504 --> 00:40:57,369
We cease to be a man or a
1194
00:40:57,371 --> 00:40:59,339
hobbit and we turn more and
1195
00:40:59,340 --> 00:41:03,072
more into a Gollum, and here
1196
00:41:03,077 --> 00:41:04,340
is one of the key morals of.
1197
00:41:04,345 --> 00:41:06,336
"The Lord of the Rings"-
1198
00:41:06,347 --> 00:41:08,213
that the thing possessed
1199
00:41:08,215 --> 00:41:11,048
possesses the possessor,
1200
00:41:11,051 --> 00:41:12,280
or as Christ told us in the.
1201
00:41:12,286 --> 00:41:13,811
Gospel, that, "Where our"
1202
00:41:13,821 --> 00:41:15,118
treasure is, there our
1203
00:41:15,122 --> 00:41:19,355
"heart will be also."
1204
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:20,418
But what is the
1205
00:41:20,427 --> 00:41:21,258
alternative?
1206
00:41:21,262 --> 00:41:22,286
What must we do to avoid
1207
00:41:22,296 --> 00:41:23,286
becoming addicted to our
1208
00:41:23,297 --> 00:41:24,560
sin, or addicted to the
1209
00:41:24,565 --> 00:41:26,294
ring?
1210
00:41:34,542 --> 00:41:36,670
Gollum: It came to me.
1211
00:41:36,677 --> 00:41:40,113
My oglie, my love.
1212
00:41:40,114 --> 00:41:43,140
MY PRECIOUS!
1213
00:41:48,522 --> 00:41:49,956
Joseph: As Christians-and
1214
00:41:49,957 --> 00:41:50,822
remember always that Tolkien
1215
00:41:50,824 --> 00:41:51,916
was a lifelong practicing.
1216
00:41:51,926 --> 00:41:54,327
Catholic-we know that we
1217
00:41:54,328 --> 00:41:55,352
must take up our cross and
1218
00:41:55,362 --> 00:41:56,625
follow in the footsteps of
1219
00:41:56,630 --> 00:41:58,997
Christ.
1220
00:41:58,999 --> 00:42:02,094
What does Frodo do?
1221
00:42:02,102 --> 00:42:03,934
He takes up his cross and
1222
00:42:03,938 --> 00:42:04,962
follows in the footsteps
1223
00:42:04,972 --> 00:42:06,906
of Christ.
1224
00:42:06,907 --> 00:42:09,035
But how?
1225
00:42:09,043 --> 00:42:09,942
There's no cross in "The."
1226
00:42:09,944 --> 00:42:11,673
Lord of the Rings, “ nor is
1227
00:42:11,679 --> 00:42:14,512
there any mention of Christ.
1228
00:42:14,515 --> 00:42:15,641
Remember that we must think
1229
00:42:15,649 --> 00:42:17,378
typologically if we are to
1230
00:42:17,384 --> 00:42:18,783
understand the deepest
1231
00:42:18,786 --> 00:42:20,550
elements in Tolkien's myth.
1232
00:42:20,554 --> 00:42:22,215
Remember his words to.
1233
00:42:22,223 --> 00:42:23,850
C. S. Lewis that all the
1234
00:42:23,857 --> 00:42:24,983
great stories reflect the
1235
00:42:24,992 --> 00:42:28,485
true story of Christianity.
1236
00:42:28,495 --> 00:42:29,587
How then does Tolkien's
1237
00:42:29,597 --> 00:42:31,064
story reflect the true
1238
00:42:31,065 --> 00:42:34,831
story?
1239
00:42:34,835 --> 00:42:36,200
Specifically, how does the
1240
00:42:36,203 --> 00:42:37,568
carrying of the ring
1241
00:42:37,571 --> 00:42:38,766
resemble the carrying
1242
00:42:38,772 --> 00:42:42,402
of the cross?
1243
00:42:42,409 --> 00:42:44,503
What is the Cross of Christ?
1244
00:42:44,511 --> 00:42:47,242
It is a symbol of sin.
1245
00:42:47,248 --> 00:42:48,409
It is the sin of the world
1246
00:42:48,415 --> 00:42:50,281
that Christ carries on His
1247
00:42:50,284 --> 00:42:53,219
back on the Via Dolorosa,
1248
00:42:53,220 --> 00:42:54,949
the Way of Sorrows, to.
1249
00:42:54,955 --> 00:42:57,390
Golgotha, the mountain on
1250
00:42:57,391 --> 00:42:59,553
which He will be crucified.
1251
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,790
We have already seen that
1252
00:43:01,795 --> 00:43:02,762
the ring is a symbol of sin
1253
00:43:02,763 --> 00:43:04,891
so it easy to see that the
1254
00:43:04,898 --> 00:43:06,832
carrying of the ring is
1255
00:43:06,834 --> 00:43:08,359
symbolically synonymous with
1256
00:43:08,369 --> 00:43:11,202
the carrying of the cross.
1257
00:43:11,205 --> 00:43:13,071
Frodo carries his cross
1258
00:43:13,073 --> 00:43:15,201
through Mordor, which
1259
00:43:15,209 --> 00:43:16,267
is clearly rooted
1260
00:43:16,277 --> 00:43:17,506
linguistically in the Latin
1261
00:43:17,511 --> 00:43:19,570
word mors or mortis, meaning
1262
00:43:19,580 --> 00:43:21,639
death, to Mount Doom, the
1263
00:43:21,649 --> 00:43:24,175
mountain of doom, clearly
1264
00:43:24,184 --> 00:43:28,621
an echo of Golgotha itself.
1265
00:43:28,622 --> 00:43:29,555
So Frodo and his loyal
1266
00:43:29,556 --> 00:43:31,320
companion, Samwise Gamgee,
1267
00:43:31,325 --> 00:43:33,259
walk through the valley of
1268
00:43:33,260 --> 00:43:34,523
death to Mount Doom,
1269
00:43:34,528 --> 00:43:35,995
carrying the cross
1270
00:43:35,996 --> 00:43:37,521
in mythological imitation
1271
00:43:37,531 --> 00:43:39,397
of Christ Himself.
1272
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:40,799
And as we have seen, the
1273
00:43:40,801 --> 00:43:42,963
climax on Mount Doom is
1274
00:43:42,970 --> 00:43:45,598
united with Christ's.
1275
00:43:45,606 --> 00:43:47,597
Crucifixion on Golgotha
1276
00:43:47,608 --> 00:43:49,042
through the key date of.
1277
00:43:49,043 --> 00:43:53,310
March 25th.
1278
00:43:53,314 --> 00:43:54,213
And there is another
1279
00:43:54,214 --> 00:43:55,739
tantalizing parallel between.
1280
00:43:55,749 --> 00:43:57,274
Frodo's journey and the
1281
00:43:57,284 --> 00:43:58,376
journey of every Catholic
1282
00:43:58,385 --> 00:43:59,750
in imitation of Christ.
1283
00:43:59,753 --> 00:44:02,814
During their trek through
1284
00:44:02,823 --> 00:44:04,985
the sinful valley of Mordor,
1285
00:44:04,992 --> 00:44:06,153
Frodo and Sam have nothing
1286
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,322
to eat, nothing to sustain
1287
00:44:08,329 --> 00:44:11,128
them, except "lembas", the
1288
00:44:11,131 --> 00:44:14,726
elvish waybread.
1289
00:44:14,735 --> 00:44:15,793
It seems to have magical or
1290
00:44:15,803 --> 00:44:17,293
even miraculous nutritional
1291
00:44:17,304 --> 00:44:19,966
powers.
1292
00:44:19,973 --> 00:44:20,963
But what exactly is it?
1293
00:44:20,974 --> 00:44:23,238
Literally, it is simply
1294
00:44:23,243 --> 00:44:25,268
special bread made by elves
1295
00:44:25,279 --> 00:44:28,112
to help those on a journey,
1296
00:44:28,115 --> 00:44:29,776
but symbolically its deeper
1297
00:44:29,783 --> 00:44:30,773
significance is revealed by
1298
00:44:30,784 --> 00:44:32,912
what lembas actually means
1299
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,550
in elvish.
1300
00:44:36,557 --> 00:44:39,185
Lembas means life-bread or
1301
00:44:39,193 --> 00:44:41,287
the bread of life, a clear
1302
00:44:41,295 --> 00:44:43,593
symbolic connection with the.
1303
00:44:43,597 --> 00:44:46,931
Blessed Sacrament Itself.
1304
00:44:46,934 --> 00:44:48,401
On their journey through the
1305
00:44:48,402 --> 00:44:49,494
vale of tears, the valley of
1306
00:44:49,503 --> 00:44:51,028
death, carrying their cross
1307
00:44:51,038 --> 00:44:54,474
in imitation of Christ,
1308
00:44:54,475 --> 00:44:55,636
Frodo and Sam are sustained
1309
00:44:55,642 --> 00:44:57,804
on their journey by the.
1310
00:44:57,811 --> 00:45:01,645
Bread of Life.
1311
00:45:01,648 --> 00:45:02,843
Once again we see the
1312
00:45:02,850 --> 00:45:03,783
journey of the hobbits
1313
00:45:03,784 --> 00:45:05,377
as images of the true.
1314
00:45:05,386 --> 00:45:07,353
Christian's pilgrimage
1315
00:45:07,354 --> 00:45:11,484
through life.
1316
00:45:11,492 --> 00:45:12,425
But what about the climax
1317
00:45:12,426 --> 00:45:14,394
on Mount Doom itself?
1318
00:45:14,395 --> 00:45:15,385
Why is it that Frodo fails
1319
00:45:15,396 --> 00:45:17,125
at the very last moment
1320
00:45:17,131 --> 00:45:18,326
in his quest to destroy
1321
00:45:18,332 --> 00:45:21,825
the Ring?
1322
00:45:21,835 --> 00:45:23,462
Frodo: I have come,
1323
00:45:23,470 --> 00:45:24,335
but I do not choose now
1324
00:45:24,338 --> 00:45:26,466
to do what I came to do.
1325
00:45:26,473 --> 00:45:28,100
I will not do this deed.
1326
00:45:28,108 --> 00:45:31,601
The Ring is mine!
1327
00:45:31,612 --> 00:45:34,377
Joseph: Why does Frodo fail?
1328
00:45:34,381 --> 00:45:35,371
Isn't there something
1329
00:45:35,382 --> 00:45:36,406
anti-climactic about his
1330
00:45:36,417 --> 00:45:38,283
failure?
1331
00:45:38,285 --> 00:45:39,411
I know that when I first
1332
00:45:39,420 --> 00:45:41,149
read 'The Lord of the.
1333
00:45:41,155 --> 00:45:41,986
"Rings," I was annoyed
1334
00:45:41,989 --> 00:45:42,979
at this unexpected twist
1335
00:45:42,990 --> 00:45:44,219
in the plot.
1336
00:45:44,224 --> 00:45:45,055
Frodo had come so far.
1337
00:45:45,058 --> 00:45:47,652
He had sacrificed so much,
1338
00:45:47,661 --> 00:45:49,459
and then, when all he had
1339
00:45:49,463 --> 00:45:51,454
to do was throw the ring
1340
00:45:51,465 --> 00:45:53,024
into the abyss,
1341
00:45:53,033 --> 00:45:56,025
he couldn't do it!
1342
00:45:56,036 --> 00:45:57,834
He had done the hard part.
1343
00:45:57,838 --> 00:45:58,828
He had faced many deadly
1344
00:45:58,839 --> 00:46:01,035
perils, many temptations,
1345
00:46:01,041 --> 00:46:03,305
the strain of sheer
1346
00:46:03,310 --> 00:46:04,800
exhaustion.
1347
00:46:04,812 --> 00:46:06,405
And now, at the last, he
1348
00:46:06,413 --> 00:46:08,745
fails miserably, snatching
1349
00:46:08,749 --> 00:46:09,648
defeat from the very jaws
1350
00:46:09,650 --> 00:46:13,609
of victory.
1351
00:46:13,620 --> 00:46:15,782
I was angry with Tolkien!
1352
00:46:15,789 --> 00:46:17,450
How dare he take away.
1353
00:46:17,458 --> 00:46:19,926
Frodo's moment of glory!
1354
00:46:19,927 --> 00:46:20,826
We don't want our heroes
1355
00:46:20,828 --> 00:46:22,125
to fail.
1356
00:46:22,129 --> 00:46:23,096
We want them to succeed.
1357
00:46:23,097 --> 00:46:28,034
I felt cheated!
1358
00:46:28,035 --> 00:46:30,163
But on subsequent readings
1359
00:46:30,170 --> 00:46:31,899
of the book it became clear
1360
00:46:31,905 --> 00:46:33,168
that this particular scene
1361
00:46:33,173 --> 00:46:36,973
was Tolkien's masterstroke.
1362
00:46:36,977 --> 00:46:37,876
It is perhaps the most
1363
00:46:37,878 --> 00:46:39,141
important twist in the
1364
00:46:39,146 --> 00:46:41,376
whole plot.
1365
00:46:41,381 --> 00:46:42,712
The fact is that we cannot
1366
00:46:42,716 --> 00:46:44,183
overthrow sin by our own
1367
00:46:44,184 --> 00:46:46,448
efforts alone.
1368
00:46:46,453 --> 00:46:47,511
We cannot carry our cross
1369
00:46:47,521 --> 00:46:50,115
on our own.
1370
00:46:50,123 --> 00:46:51,818
We need help.
1371
00:46:51,825 --> 00:46:53,020
To be precise, we need
1372
00:46:53,026 --> 00:46:55,961
the help of God Himself.
1373
00:46:55,963 --> 00:46:57,590
We need His grace
1374
00:46:57,598 --> 00:46:59,464
if we are to overcome sin.
1375
00:46:59,466 --> 00:47:02,800
We can't do it ourselves.
1376
00:47:02,803 --> 00:47:04,100
As such, Gollum becomes a
1377
00:47:04,104 --> 00:47:05,731
paradoxical symbol of grace
1378
00:47:05,739 --> 00:47:07,571
itself, God's miraculous
1379
00:47:07,574 --> 00:47:10,100
intervention to bring good
1380
00:47:10,110 --> 00:47:13,910
out of evil.
1381
00:47:13,914 --> 00:47:14,813
Frodo: Do you remember.
1382
00:47:14,815 --> 00:47:16,249
Gandalf's words, "Even."
1383
00:47:16,250 --> 00:47:17,445
Gollum may have something.
1384
00:47:17,451 --> 00:47:19,510
Vet to do?“
1385
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:20,749
But for him, Sam, I could
1386
00:47:20,754 --> 00:47:23,052
not have destroyed the ring.
1387
00:47:23,056 --> 00:47:23,921
The quest would have been
1388
00:47:23,924 --> 00:47:24,948
in vain, even at the
1389
00:47:24,958 --> 00:47:27,120
bitter end.
1390
00:47:27,127 --> 00:47:29,425
So let us forgive him!
1391
00:47:29,429 --> 00:47:30,726
For the quest is achieved,
1392
00:47:30,731 --> 00:47:33,632
and now all is over.
1393
00:47:33,634 --> 00:47:34,658
I am glad you are here
1394
00:47:34,668 --> 00:47:36,796
with me, here at the end
1395
00:47:36,803 --> 00:47:39,773
of all things, Sam.
1396
00:47:47,514 --> 00:47:48,640
Joseph: But for Gollum, the
1397
00:47:48,649 --> 00:47:50,481
quest would have failed, and.
1398
00:47:50,484 --> 00:47:51,417
Gollum is only there at the
1399
00:47:51,418 --> 00:47:53,443
end because Bilbo, Frodo,
1400
00:47:53,453 --> 00:47:54,648
and Sam had each, on
1401
00:47:54,655 --> 00:47:56,350
separate occasions, spared
1402
00:47:56,356 --> 00:47:58,290
him his life when they were
1403
00:47:58,292 --> 00:47:59,316
themselves tempted to kill
1404
00:47:59,326 --> 00:48:02,853
him.
1405
00:48:02,863 --> 00:48:04,058
If any of them had succumbed
1406
00:48:04,064 --> 00:48:05,657
to the temptation to slay
1407
00:48:05,666 --> 00:48:07,361
their enemy, the quest would
1408
00:48:07,367 --> 00:48:09,233
have failed.
1409
00:48:09,236 --> 00:48:10,703
The ring, or sin, would have
1410
00:48:10,704 --> 00:48:12,934
defeated them.
1411
00:48:12,940 --> 00:48:14,169
The 3 hobbits had learned
1412
00:48:14,174 --> 00:48:16,506
the hardest lesson of all...
1413
00:48:16,510 --> 00:48:17,944
That it was not enough to
1414
00:48:17,945 --> 00:48:18,969
love our neighbors.
1415
00:48:18,979 --> 00:48:20,071
We had to love our enemies
1416
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,777
also.
1417
00:48:22,783 --> 00:48:23,807
If the hobbits had failed in
1418
00:48:23,817 --> 00:48:25,342
obeying this toughest of.
1419
00:48:25,352 --> 00:48:27,650
Christ's Commandments, the
1420
00:48:27,654 --> 00:48:30,521
ring would have triumphed.
1421
00:48:30,524 --> 00:48:33,960
Sin would have triumphed,
1422
00:48:33,961 --> 00:48:34,951
but because they were
1423
00:48:34,962 --> 00:48:36,521
faithful in keeping this.
1424
00:48:36,530 --> 00:48:37,656
Commandment, Gollum was
1425
00:48:37,664 --> 00:48:39,530
still around as the agent of
1426
00:48:39,533 --> 00:48:40,500
grace that brought about the
1427
00:48:40,501 --> 00:48:45,438
destruction of the ring.
1428
00:48:45,439 --> 00:48:46,338
As if this were not enough
1429
00:48:46,340 --> 00:48:47,273
to prove Tolkien's words
1430
00:48:47,274 --> 00:48:48,673
"that 'The Lord of the Rings"
1431
00:48:48,675 --> 00:48:50,109
is a fundamentally religious
1432
00:48:50,110 --> 00:48:52,010
and Catholic work, there is
1433
00:48:52,012 --> 00:48:53,275
so much more in the story
1434
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:54,805
that indicates its
1435
00:48:54,815 --> 00:48:56,146
profoundly Christian
1436
00:48:56,149 --> 00:48:58,846
meaning.
1437
00:48:58,852 --> 00:48:59,785
We have no time in such a
1438
00:48:59,786 --> 00:49:01,686
short discussion to study
1439
00:49:01,688 --> 00:49:03,178
the death, resurrection, and
1440
00:49:03,190 --> 00:49:05,249
transfiguration of Gandalf,
1441
00:49:05,258 --> 00:49:06,657
or the Christological
1442
00:49:06,660 --> 00:49:07,889
significance of the Kingship
1443
00:49:07,894 --> 00:49:10,693
of Aragorn; Or the way in
1444
00:49:10,697 --> 00:49:11,721
which the elves illustrate a
1445
00:49:11,732 --> 00:49:13,131
Christian understanding of
1446
00:49:13,133 --> 00:49:14,658
death and a Christian
1447
00:49:14,668 --> 00:49:16,033
understanding of the
1448
00:49:16,036 --> 00:49:17,435
difference between time and
1449
00:49:17,437 --> 00:49:21,965
eternity; Or the way in
1450
00:49:21,975 --> 00:49:24,034
which Boromir, Faramir and.
1451
00:49:24,044 --> 00:49:25,170
Gollum, each in different
1452
00:49:25,178 --> 00:49:26,373
ways, illustrate the
1453
00:49:26,380 --> 00:49:28,109
consequences of human
1454
00:49:28,115 --> 00:49:30,049
choices; Or the way in which.
1455
00:49:30,050 --> 00:49:31,108
Treebeard and the Ents offer
1456
00:49:31,118 --> 00:49:33,450
a profound insight into the
1457
00:49:33,453 --> 00:49:35,854
nature of tradition in both
1458
00:49:35,856 --> 00:49:38,188
an ecclesiological and
1459
00:49:38,191 --> 00:49:41,024
etymological sense.
1460
00:49:41,028 --> 00:49:43,656
There is so much more that
1461
00:49:43,664 --> 00:49:44,631
we could say but so little
1462
00:49:44,632 --> 00:49:47,566
time in which to say it.
1463
00:49:47,567 --> 00:49:48,466
Perhaps we will return with
1464
00:49:48,468 --> 00:49:49,629
further programs on this
1465
00:49:49,636 --> 00:49:50,603
most fundamentally.
1466
00:49:50,604 --> 00:49:53,005
Catholic of works.
1467
00:49:53,006 --> 00:49:53,996
For now, I'd like to return
1468
00:49:54,007 --> 00:49:56,475
to Tolkien himself and his
1469
00:49:56,476 --> 00:49:57,637
own exposition of the
1470
00:49:57,644 --> 00:50:01,603
meaning of life.
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00:50:01,615 --> 00:50:03,208
In 1969,when Tolkien was
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00:50:03,216 --> 00:50:04,809
77 years old and living
1473
00:50:04,818 --> 00:50:06,183
in sedate retirement in
1474
00:50:06,186 --> 00:50:08,154
Bournemouth on England's
1475
00:50:08,155 --> 00:50:09,588
south coast, he received a
1476
00:50:09,589 --> 00:50:10,988
letter from a young girl
1477
00:50:10,991 --> 00:50:12,823
who was working on a school
1478
00:50:12,826 --> 00:50:14,260
project, asking him, "What is"
1479
00:50:14,261 --> 00:50:18,255
the purpose of life?"
1480
00:50:18,265 --> 00:50:19,198
Tolkien's reply exhibits
1481
00:50:19,199 --> 00:50:20,689
his own profoundly mystical.
1482
00:50:20,701 --> 00:50:25,901
Catholic faith.
1483
00:50:25,906 --> 00:50:27,067
Tolkien: It may be said that
1484
00:50:27,074 --> 00:50:28,064
the chief purpose of life,
1485
00:50:28,075 --> 00:50:30,442
for any one of us, is to
1486
00:50:30,444 --> 00:50:32,572
increase according to our
1487
00:50:32,579 --> 00:50:34,206
capacity, our knowledge of.
1488
00:50:34,214 --> 00:50:35,875
God by all the means we
1489
00:50:35,882 --> 00:50:37,748
have, and to be moved by
1490
00:50:37,751 --> 00:50:41,551
it to praise and thanks.
1491
00:50:41,555 --> 00:50:42,545
To do as we say in the.
1492
00:50:42,556 --> 00:50:46,015
"Gloria in Excel sis;."
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00:50:46,026 --> 00:50:48,017
Laudamus te, benedicamus te,
1494
00:50:48,028 --> 00:50:51,521
adoramus te, glorificamus te,
1495
00:50:51,531 --> 00:50:54,364
gratias agimus tibi propter
1496
00:50:54,367 --> 00:50:57,200
magnam gloriam tuam.
1497
00:50:57,204 --> 00:50:58,671
"We praise You, we call."
1498
00:50:58,672 --> 00:51:01,403
You Holy, we worship You,
1499
00:51:01,408 --> 00:51:04,070
we proclaim Your glory, we
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00:51:04,077 --> 00:51:05,567
thank You for the greatness
1501
00:51:05,579 --> 00:51:07,809
of Your splendor.
1502
00:51:07,814 --> 00:51:08,872
And in moments of
1503
00:51:08,882 --> 00:51:10,680
exaltation we may call on
1504
00:51:10,684 --> 00:51:12,914
all created things to join
1505
00:51:12,919 --> 00:51:15,047
us in our chorus, speaking
1506
00:51:15,055 --> 00:51:17,854
on their behalf, as is done
1507
00:51:17,858 --> 00:51:19,849
in Psalm 148,and in the.
1508
00:51:19,860 --> 00:51:21,487
Song of the Three Children
1509
00:51:21,495 --> 00:51:23,929
in Daniel 2, "Praise the."
1510
00:51:23,930 --> 00:51:25,694
Lord, all mountains and
1511
00:51:25,699 --> 00:51:27,531
hills, all orchards and
1512
00:51:27,534 --> 00:51:29,161
forests, all things that
1513
00:51:29,169 --> 00:51:30,364
creep, and birds on the
1514
00:51:30,370 --> 00:51:35,672
"wing."
1515
00:51:35,675 --> 00:51:36,836
Joseph: It is almost time to
1516
00:51:36,843 --> 00:51:38,106
end our brief exploration
1517
00:51:38,111 --> 00:51:39,044
of 'The Catholicism of 'The.
1518
00:51:39,045 --> 00:51:40,911
("Lord of the Rings)" but
1519
00:51:40,914 --> 00:51:41,779
we still have time for a
1520
00:51:41,782 --> 00:51:43,272
practical and cautionary
1521
00:51:43,283 --> 00:51:44,808
lesson that the book
1522
00:51:44,818 --> 00:51:47,685
teaches us.
1523
00:51:47,687 --> 00:51:49,314
In the story, the palantiri,
1524
00:51:49,322 --> 00:51:50,483
the seeing stones, are used
1525
00:51:50,490 --> 00:51:52,754
by Sauron to feed propaganda
1526
00:51:52,759 --> 00:51:53,885
to the free peoples of
1527
00:51:53,894 --> 00:51:57,262
middle-earth.
1528
00:51:57,264 --> 00:51:58,231
In particular, Denethor,
1529
00:51:58,232 --> 00:52:00,097
the steward of Minas Tirith,
1530
00:52:00,100 --> 00:52:01,261
becomes addicted to looking
1531
00:52:01,268 --> 00:52:03,134
into the palantir to
1532
00:52:03,136 --> 00:52:04,126
discover what the enemy
1533
00:52:04,137 --> 00:52:07,163
is up to.
1534
00:52:07,174 --> 00:52:08,039
What he doesn't realize is
1535
00:52:08,041 --> 00:52:09,736
that the seeing stone is
1536
00:52:09,743 --> 00:52:10,801
actually controlled by the
1537
00:52:10,811 --> 00:52:13,178
enemy, by Sauron, and that
1538
00:52:13,180 --> 00:52:14,238
he only sees in the stone
1539
00:52:14,247 --> 00:52:15,578
what Sauron wants him.
1540
00:52:15,582 --> 00:52:18,950
YO SEE.
1541
00:52:18,952 --> 00:52:19,919
It is not that the palantir
1542
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:20,853
is showing complete lies,
1543
00:52:20,854 --> 00:52:22,219
but it is only showing
1544
00:52:22,222 --> 00:52:25,283
one side of the story.
1545
00:52:25,292 --> 00:52:26,350
Denethor sees in the
1546
00:52:26,359 --> 00:52:27,554
palantir how invincible is
1547
00:52:27,561 --> 00:52:29,893
the enemy's might and he
1548
00:52:29,896 --> 00:52:30,988
becomes convinced that
1549
00:52:30,997 --> 00:52:34,262
Sauron, or satan, is bound
1550
00:52:34,267 --> 00:52:36,133
to win the coming war and
1551
00:52:36,136 --> 00:52:37,126
will overthrow Denethor's
1552
00:52:37,137 --> 00:52:38,536
own people and all the
1553
00:52:38,538 --> 00:52:41,667
peoples of Middle-earth.
1554
00:52:41,675 --> 00:52:43,200
In despair, believing that
1555
00:52:43,210 --> 00:52:44,473
resistance to satan OI'
1556
00:52:44,477 --> 00:52:46,639
Sauron is pointless and
1557
00:52:46,646 --> 00:52:49,308
futile, he commits suicide
1558
00:52:49,316 --> 00:52:51,283
and, in so doing, almost
1559
00:52:51,284 --> 00:52:52,581
brings ruin upon his own.
1560
00:52:52,586 --> 00:52:55,554
People.
1561
00:52:55,555 --> 00:52:57,022
Bearing this in mind, it is
1562
00:52:57,023 --> 00:52:58,047
interesting that palantir
1563
00:52:58,058 --> 00:53:01,824
in elvish means "fa r-seer,"
1564
00:53:01,828 --> 00:53:04,797
which, in German, "Fernsehen",
1565
00:53:04,798 --> 00:53:07,130
means television, and
1566
00:53:07,133 --> 00:53:08,066
indeed the English word,
1567
00:53:08,068 --> 00:53:09,558
television, also means
1568
00:53:09,569 --> 00:53:12,368
far-seer or far-seeing,
1569
00:53:12,372 --> 00:53:13,533
being a combination of tele,
1570
00:53:13,540 --> 00:53:15,167
which is Greek for far,
1571
00:53:15,175 --> 00:53:16,267
and vision, from the Latin,
1572
00:53:16,276 --> 00:53:19,371
video, to see.
1573
00:53:19,379 --> 00:53:20,972
It seems that Tolkien is
1574
00:53:20,981 --> 00:53:22,176
warning us that if we watch
1575
00:53:22,182 --> 00:53:23,411
too much television,
1576
00:53:23,416 --> 00:53:26,317
we will commit suicide!
1577
00:53:26,319 --> 00:53:28,014
Dear viewer, heed Tolkien's
1578
00:53:28,021 --> 00:53:29,716
words of warning and avoid
1579
00:53:29,723 --> 00:53:31,156
the temptation to spend more
1580
00:53:31,157 --> 00:53:33,592
time with your TV, PC,
1581
00:53:33,593 --> 00:53:35,425
i-pod, X-box or any other
1582
00:53:35,428 --> 00:53:38,261
form of virtual reality.
1583
00:53:38,265 --> 00:53:39,289
Keep your feet on the
1584
00:53:39,299 --> 00:53:40,528
ground, your heart in.
1585
00:53:40,533 --> 00:53:42,001
Heaven, and your mind
1586
00:53:42,002 --> 00:53:45,165
on reality!
1587
00:53:45,171 --> 00:53:47,037
Having ended on a somewhat
1588
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:48,166
whimsical, if nonetheless
1589
00:53:48,174 --> 00:53:49,699
serious note, I'd like to
1590
00:53:49,709 --> 00:53:51,268
leave the last word to.
1591
00:53:51,278 --> 00:53:53,746
Tolkien himself.
1592
00:53:53,747 --> 00:53:54,908
Thanks for joining us on our
1593
00:53:54,915 --> 00:53:56,474
journey in the quest for.
1594
00:53:56,483 --> 00:53:58,281
"The Catholicism of 'The.
1595
00:53:58,285 --> 00:54:00,652
Lord of the Rings!"
1596
00:54:00,654 --> 00:54:02,019
Here's Tolkien on the
1597
00:54:02,022 --> 00:54:03,956
beauty of the Blessed.
1598
00:54:03,957 --> 00:54:05,789
Sacrament.
1599
00:54:11,064 --> 00:54:12,964
Tolkien: Out of the darkness
1600
00:54:12,966 --> 00:54:14,866
of my life so much
1601
00:54:14,868 --> 00:54:17,360
frustrated, I put before you
1602
00:54:17,370 --> 00:54:19,065
the one great thing to love
1603
00:54:19,072 --> 00:54:22,064
on earth... the Blessed.
1604
00:54:22,075 --> 00:54:26,011
Sacrament.
1605
00:54:26,012 --> 00:54:27,707
In It you will find romance,
1606
00:54:27,714 --> 00:54:30,182
glory, honor, fidelity, and
1607
00:54:30,183 --> 00:54:31,309
the true path of all your
1608
00:54:31,318 --> 00:54:33,150
loves on earth, and more
1609
00:54:33,153 --> 00:54:37,750
than that, death.
1610
00:54:37,757 --> 00:54:39,521
By the Divine Paradox, that
1611
00:54:39,526 --> 00:54:41,324
which ends life, and demands
1612
00:54:41,328 --> 00:54:42,989
the surrender of all, and by
1613
00:54:42,996 --> 00:54:44,486
the taste or foretaste of
1614
00:54:44,497 --> 00:54:46,158
which alone can all that
1615
00:54:46,166 --> 00:54:47,691
you desire in your earthly
1616
00:54:47,701 --> 00:54:49,328
relationships; Love,
1617
00:54:49,336 --> 00:54:50,803
faithfulness, joy, be
1618
00:54:50,804 --> 00:54:53,136
maintained, or take on the
1619
00:54:53,139 --> 00:54:55,938
complexion of reality, of
1620
00:54:55,942 --> 00:54:59,037
eternal endurance, which the
1621
00:54:59,045 --> 00:55:01,946
heart of every man desires.
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