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[Nicky] I never really
thought that I'd meet somebody
and get married.
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When I met Jason,
things were different
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and I knew
that he was the right person
for me.
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[Sam] The wedding
that I wanted
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was the princess...
Big, white wedding.
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It upsets me
and makes me mad
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that wonderful wedding
that I had
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will always be tinged
with a bit of sadness
and anger.
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This woman had taken
people's dreams away.
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[Nicky] I never really
thought about
a wedding planner before.
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That she's made
one of our happiest days
of my life,
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when I should
have been celebrating
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with my family
and my children,
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to something
that I can't look back on.
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Why would somebody
that wants to make your day,
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the most special day
in the world,
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be as cruel as she was?
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[Dr. Sohom] She is faining
this emotional connection
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because she saw them
as victims.
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[Sam] My mum
was dying with cancer
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and she saw pound signs.
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[Carl]
To see all these people,
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they were absolutely
heartbroken, horrified.
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They'd lost all their savings.
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[Dr. Sohom] This isn't
some sort of fraud
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against a
faceless corporation,
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these are real people.
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[Alex] This was a lot
far reaching than just one
or two people.
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Countless,
dozens had been scammed.
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[interviewer] Thank you
for agreeing to tell us
your story.
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You aren't nervous?
Wanna drink water,
a cup of tea?
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-No, okay. Thanks.
-No.
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[Jason] We live in Harrogate,
which is sort of
Nort Yorkshire, cross country.
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I really love that, yeah.
Really nice place to live.
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Really proud of where we live.
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He worked
at the Army Foundation College
with my uncle,
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who was also his best friend.
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And he went to say goodbye
and punched me by accident.
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She didn't speak to me
for couple of weeks
after that.
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The amount of times
I have apologized.
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And then in December
we got together.
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Yeah.
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I never really thought
that I'd meet somebody
and get married.
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When I met Jason,
things were different.
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I knew
that he was the right person
for me.
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She begged me for months.
[chuckles]
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-He's not even joking.
-For years.
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"We're gonna get married.
We're gonna get married."
So yes.
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[Nicky] After he had asked me,
obviously I accepted.
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We turned around
and we all ended up
in this massive hope together.
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My daughter was crying.
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It was just lovely.
It was just so special.
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[Jason] Weddings are massive,
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especially if you found
somebody that you're
in love with.
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I couldn't wait
to get married.
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We were lucky enough
to be able
to put some money aside,
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to be able to pay,
and put some money
towards the wedding.
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[Jason] We planned
for a really,
really nice wedding.
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For whatever the figure was,
we were ensuring
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that we were gonna
pay for that
prior to us getting married.
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So our future then
would be so much better.
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I wanted to be debt free.
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We certainly didn't wanna go
above £5,000
for the wedding itself.
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I was super excited.
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I was looking on Facebook,
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and there was quite a lot
of selling cites on there
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and quite lot of it.
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I never thought about
a wedding planner before.
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I saw Dana's post on Facebook
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and it really drew me
to want to get married sooner.
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The things that she
was offering was everything
that we wanted.
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Had a look on her page
and everything looked
really nice.
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[Jason] She had gone through
all the reviews.
I mean' she was very polite.
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And then Nicky and her mum,
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decided to take a trip over
before they're making
any commitments.
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All the way over to Hull
to go and visit her.
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[interviewer] Thank you
for telling us your story.
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Do you wanna
have a glass of water
before we start?
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I wanna have a coffee.
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About in 2016,
Dana messaged me,
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asking about some catering
for weddings.
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Dana explained that she
was a wedding planner
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and she was looking
for somebody to catering
for several weddings.
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First I went to her house
so she can show us photos
of what she has done,
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discuss what we needed to do,
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and I can show them
many options
and stuff like that.
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Dana came across
as a very genuine person.
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Seemed to have a real passion
for what she was doing.
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She showed me
lots of pictures.
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Stuff on the website,
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jobs and recommendations
and good reviews
that she had had.
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It did look really good.
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Made good sense
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to hook up
and push both businesses.
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We agreed to supply
wedding buffets and hot food.
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Dana gave us couple of booking
straightaway,
which we fulfilled.
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Dana used
to bring it all together.
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You see,
you got photographers,
car drivers.
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There's like photo booth,
special stands
which were there, catering,
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everything seemed
to go really well.
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When you involved
with somebody like that,
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it's important
that you make sure
that everything goes legit
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and she really did,
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because it's your reputation
on the line as well.
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They're advertising
your food.
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Dana was using
our catering name
on the websites
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as well as the food.
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I had no problem
with them using pictures
at the time
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because it was generating
income for us,
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and everything seemed
to go really well.
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[Sam] My name is Sam Leech.
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Me and Phil got engaged
on 13th March, 2019.
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We had been together
seven years
before we got engaged.
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The plans changed
because my mum was diagnosed
with terminal cancer
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in the May of 2019.
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She had said to me
and my brother,
because we were both engaged,
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"I think you might have to
bring your wedding forward."
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Me and Phil decided
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to plan the day for May, 2020.
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Because my dad had passed away
three years previous,
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I asked my mum to give me away
and walk me down the aisle.
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I wanted a big, wide wedding,
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and I wanted
all my family there
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and all our friends.
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I was scrolling
through Facebook,
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looking for people who come
and dress places.
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We decided to have a marquee
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and I found a special offer
that Dana had put on.
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So I messaged her
and asked what was included
in the price.
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Then explained to her
my circumstances,
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and she offered her services.
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[Phil] We actually thought
nothing was wrong, you know?
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We just thought
it was straightforward.
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[Sam] So the special price.
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I told Dana the reason
why I was asking
so many questions
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was because I'd had
to bring my wedding forward
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because my mum
had terminal cancer.
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She told me that her day job
was a funeral director.
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She told me
that she had lost her dad
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and it was important
to have my mum there
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and she promised me
that she'd make it all
look beautiful
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so that the photos
look beautiful,
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so my mum
could be part of my wedding.
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[Alex]
Time was of the essence,
really, for them.
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A lot of time with weddings,
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stuff's planned months,
sometimes years in advance.
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They needed something
a lot faster.
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It is where Dana came in
and was able
to offer them something
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that met their expectations.
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[Sam] In one of my messages
to her
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I called her an angel.
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She was really understanding
of it.
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Took a lot of weight
off your shoulders
because your mum was poorly.
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-Yeah.
-And that's the reason
that you did it.
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And I just said,
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"Just, let's go with it."
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It let Sam
be with her mum.
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After my first messages
with Dana,
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she quoted me £1,500.
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We had agreed on a marquee,
that she had got a favor
from her friend,
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and the dressing
of the marquee,
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a photo booth, love letters,
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a doughnut wall
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and then just extra bits,
table center pieces
and things like that.
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She was very lovely.
She offered us a drink.
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She was very welcoming.
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She showed me everything
that she had done.
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She has books full of stuff.
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She told me quite a lot
about her family life
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and her son.
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I actually felt
like I had known her for ages.
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[Jason] She showed
loads of photographs,
loads of books,
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loads of comments.
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You could see
that the house was busy
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with all the wedding stuff
that she's got.
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By the time we had finished,
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she said, "Yeah,
we can do that.
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We can do the glasses,
we can do the water jugs,
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the knives, the forks,
the cutleries, everything.
Yeah, we can do that."
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In Nicky and Jason's case,
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Dana went the extra mile.
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She met Nicky and Jason
in person.
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So, from their perspective,
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it probably feels less likely
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that she's going
to do something dodgy
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or that she's a fraudster
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because most people
would assume
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that fraud is committed
by a distant
faceless corporation.
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When you have
that personal interaction
and that personal touch,
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you feel more comfortable,
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and the person
you're speaking to
comes across as more credible.
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Once we had been there
we got almost persuaded
to get more and more stuff,
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while we were there,
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which was brilliant for us
because it was stuff
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that we didn't
have to think about.
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I really thought
that it was a really,
really good deal,
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and we could
get married sooner
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and it was something
that, you know,
was in our budget.
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She was so nice
that I thought
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I would want anyone else
to not do it.
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I wanted her to be there,
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but I've never looked back
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and think
that was the happiest time
of my life.
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I look back and remember
what she did.
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And I will never forgive her
for that.
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Dana was very polite.
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She was very, you,
"This is what we do.
This is how we do it."
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So we thought
it's a lot of money.
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But the good thing is,
she turned around and said
to Nicky,
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"You could pay off
on a monthly basis."
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So it wasn't the fact
we have that paid up
straight away.
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It was done
over a period of time.
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They agreed to a figure,
which was just over £2,000
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and the agreement
was as of October
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we were gonna pay
£227 per month to her account
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up until the wedding,
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and it was for the marquee
and stuff like that.
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Everything that I went
to her with
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she was more than
willing to help me.
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It was really nice.
I felt really supportive,
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so I'd message her
and she'd always
message me back.
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[Jason] All the way through,
she was always there.
She'd answer the phone.
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We always thought
that she was like a friend
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rather than somebody
who'd organize the things.
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I've never met Dana before.
I had only messaged her.
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After my first messages,
she quoted me £1,500.
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I thought that that price
was too good to be true.
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So I arranged
to meet Dana in person.
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and take by best friend
with me,
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because she was also
going through personally
what I was going through.
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And I thought
she would give me the truth
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on what she thought of Dana,
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if she thought this lady
is honest.
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I met Dana in July, 2019.
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She was setting up
a christening at a club.
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And while I was there,
she went over to the manager
and said,
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"Oh, I'm gonna arrange
that wedding fair."
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And because
she was setting up, I thought
this is what she does.
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Her husband was with her
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and he was telling me
how wonderful
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and how beautiful
these weddings was
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that he'd help her with.
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So it was all believable.
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We sat outside
with Dana and her husband
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and had a drink with them.
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They spoke
about personal things
to us as well.
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My friend said to me,
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"She is genuinely
a nice person
who wants to help you."
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Meeting somebody like Dana
at an event
that she has organized,
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this christening,
that seems to be going well
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would have added
an extra layer
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to her credibility
and her legitimacy.
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It might have
let the guard down
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of the people that are there
speaking to her
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because it's
a family atmosphere,
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it's very different
from a business or formal
or corporate kind of setting.
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[Sam] After I met Dana
in July,
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she then sent me an invoice
to my email address
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with the full amount
of the £1,500
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and then asked for a deposit
of £600.
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She sent me a receipt
through email
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when I had paid the deposit
of £600 into her bank.
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When I paid Dana,
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it was around nine months
to the day of wedding.
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I felt brilliant
that it had been sorted.
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But I did feel a bit lost
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and I remember texting Dana
and asking her,
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"Is there anything
I should be doing?"
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I felt like, although she had
taken all the weight
off my shoulders,
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I should have been doing more.
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And she replied and said,
"No.
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All brides feel like this,
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and everything's in order
and you got nothing
to worry about."
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[Jason] It was three days
before the wedding.
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It was a Thursday,
in the morning.
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Nicky was still getting
text messages from her.
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[Nicky] There was a gentleman
called Gav,
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he was providing
a marquee for us,
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who had messaged me
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to say that Dana had actually
cancelled the marquee.
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But she was getting it
from somebody else instead.
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And she'd asked Gav
to transfer the money
into somebody else's account.
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I then phoned Dana
and said "What's going on?"
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She said,
"Don't worry about it.
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I just had to get it
from someone else."
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She said
that she'd organize it
and it's absolutely fine.
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So I carried on with my mum
and my aunty
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and my daughter
and we all got our nails done.
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We all went
to the venue together,
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so my mum, my aunty, myself,
Jason, my children.
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We were hoping that Dana
would already be there
with her van,
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and her putting
the marquee up,
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and the chairs and the tables.
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When we arrived at the venue,
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um, there was no van,
there was no marquee,
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no nothing.
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There was a car parked
with a couple sitting in
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that we had never seen before.
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We assumed that one of them
was Dana.
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They were the people
that she had hired
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to come and fill the marquee
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to make it really,
really special for us.
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And they were still
none the wiser.
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So they assumed
that she was gonna turn up
as well.
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[Nicky] This is the worst bit.
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Dana had messaged me saying,
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"We're running late.
Don't worry.
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We'll be there."
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And that was the last message
I received from her.
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By lunchtime
she hadn't turned up.
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We kept ringing
and it just ringed through.
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Then we thought it might be
a problem with phone,
so I rang
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and then somebody else rang.
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The couple that were there
to put the marquee together,
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they rang.
There was just no answer.
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It was surreal
317
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because there was
somebody from Hull
that had turned up
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um, and they were there to put
all the decorations together.
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It was about 2:00 o'clock,
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we had to go to the church,
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to then do our rehearsals.
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"When we get back, she'd be
setting up everything."
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We didn't know
what had happened.
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We didn't know
there was something wrong
with her.
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We then left.
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We went to do the rehearsal.
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So it's in your mind.
"What's going on?"
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Tried again to ring her,
329
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still no answer.
330
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Gav, who were gonna get
the marquee from,
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had put a up a post
on Facebook,
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talking about Dana,
saying, you know,
333
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"You can't do this to them.
334
00:15:58,241 --> 00:16:00,586
"It's going to be
the wedding day.
You've not turned up.
335
00:16:01,275 --> 00:16:02,931
You can't leave them
like this."
336
00:16:09,793 --> 00:16:14,965
It was the morning
of the 26 July, 2019.
337
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I was scrolling
through Facebook
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00:16:17,172 --> 00:16:18,758
and it pops up.
339
00:16:20,275 --> 00:16:24,793
A man who told Dana
never to book a marquee
with him again
340
00:16:24,793 --> 00:16:27,068
and he would never do business
with her.
341
00:16:27,068 --> 00:16:31,068
I initially panicked,
thinking, "I've booked
a marquee.
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Is this the same person."
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When I went on his Facebook,
344
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the photos of the marquee
that she had sent me
345
00:16:38,551 --> 00:16:40,586
were of his Facebook.
346
00:16:40,586 --> 00:16:46,275
So I panicked, thinking,
"I have got a marquee booked
and he's now said
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that he'd never do business
with her again."
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00:16:49,793 --> 00:16:51,103
When I rang him,
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I explained to him who I was
and the day of my wedding.
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And he said
he had never heard of me
351
00:16:57,379 --> 00:17:01,793
and he has never said to Dana
that he would do a favor
for somebody
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whose mum was terminal.
353
00:17:05,448 --> 00:17:07,482
I was just panic stricken.
354
00:17:07,482 --> 00:17:09,275
I didn't really know
what to do.
355
00:17:10,172 --> 00:17:13,551
I rang my best friend
who met Dana with me
356
00:17:13,551 --> 00:17:16,586
and told her,
and what she had said to me
357
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was just try and get in touch
with Dana.
358
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It might just be
a misunderstanding.
359
00:17:21,103 --> 00:17:23,275
I made an excuse
to message her
360
00:17:23,275 --> 00:17:26,448
and asked her,
"Do you know a videographer?
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'Cause it was one thing
that I hadn't booked.
362
00:17:28,862 --> 00:17:32,000
And the message is still
never being delivered.
363
00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,793
I also tried
to ring Dana's phone...
364
00:17:34,793 --> 00:17:37,689
and it just kept going
to voicemail.
365
00:17:37,689 --> 00:17:39,137
[Phil] I was trying
to calm her down.
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Just tried to reassure
that whatever happens,
we'll get married,
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00:17:43,241 --> 00:17:45,655
and your mum will be there.
368
00:17:45,655 --> 00:17:49,000
Phil said to me that I needed
to ring the police
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00:17:49,275 --> 00:17:51,482
and ring my bank.
370
00:17:51,482 --> 00:17:54,655
The day that I found out
was my mum's birthday.
371
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I was busy ringing the police
372
00:17:57,103 --> 00:17:59,586
and looking through Facebook
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rather than spending time
with my mum.
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[Carl] We worked
in the same building
375
00:18:11,689 --> 00:18:14,034
and the wedding supplier
who makes cakes.
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00:18:14,034 --> 00:18:16,137
The bride-to-be
contacted the cakemaker
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00:18:16,137 --> 00:18:18,793
expecting a wedding cake
378
00:18:18,793 --> 00:18:21,379
for a wedding
which was the following day.
379
00:18:21,379 --> 00:18:23,586
But she didn't know anything
about this
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and not had any payment
for it.
381
00:18:25,344 --> 00:18:28,586
She was unable to get in touch
with Dana 'cause her phone
was switched off.
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00:18:28,586 --> 00:18:31,000
So I tried phoning her
and had the same response.
383
00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,689
So I tried Messenger
and her Facebook page
disappeared.
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It was a massive shock.
385
00:18:38,172 --> 00:18:40,379
I was literally the next
when the wedding is.
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00:18:40,379 --> 00:18:44,000
Eventually I put
on Dana's profile page
387
00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,482
asking what's going on
388
00:18:45,482 --> 00:18:48,137
and if anybody else
is having problems
could you contact us
389
00:18:48,137 --> 00:18:50,034
and try and get it resolved.
390
00:18:50,034 --> 00:18:53,000
And then we got contacted
by a few more people.
391
00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,068
And that's when we realized
there's a problem.
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Lots of people came forward
393
00:19:06,758 --> 00:19:09,000
saying that they had paid
for the weddings
394
00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,862
and she disappeared.
395
00:19:10,862 --> 00:19:13,482
So I set up
a group on Facebook
396
00:19:13,482 --> 00:19:16,034
to try and help these people,
to get them supplies
397
00:19:16,034 --> 00:19:17,103
and what have you.
398
00:19:17,896 --> 00:19:19,896
The amount of people
that came forward,
399
00:19:19,896 --> 00:19:21,379
it was mind-blowing.
400
00:19:23,586 --> 00:19:26,000
[Alex] My name is Alex Grove
and I'm a journalist.
401
00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,000
I got a message
from Carl Simpson
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00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,103
who was a local contact
of mine.
403
00:19:31,103 --> 00:19:34,896
He made me aware of woman
who had been scammed
404
00:19:34,896 --> 00:19:36,689
on the eve of her wedding.
405
00:19:36,689 --> 00:19:38,344
Initially,
it was just one person.
406
00:19:38,344 --> 00:19:41,517
Then we discovered
that another had also
been scammed.
407
00:19:43,896 --> 00:19:46,379
We realized it was potentially
a lot bigger story
408
00:19:46,379 --> 00:19:47,862
than just one person
being scammed,
409
00:19:47,862 --> 00:19:50,310
and actually it turned out
that there were dozens.
410
00:19:52,862 --> 00:19:56,344
When I started the group,
I was expecting
about six members
411
00:19:56,344 --> 00:19:59,482
We ended up with nearly
a thousand members.
412
00:19:59,482 --> 00:20:01,793
It wasn't just
couples getting married
but were losing money.
413
00:20:01,793 --> 00:20:04,793
People that were
supplying goods
and stuff like that,
414
00:20:04,793 --> 00:20:06,000
also lost their money.
415
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,275
We lost about a £1,000 worth
of cutlery and plates.
416
00:20:09,275 --> 00:20:11,689
All the people had bookings
which were not fulfilled.
417
00:20:11,689 --> 00:20:13,275
And there was just panic.
418
00:20:13,275 --> 00:20:15,482
There's weddings the next day,
there were weddings
in three days,
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then wedding is on
the following weekend.
420
00:20:17,586 --> 00:20:19,379
There was so many
421
00:20:19,379 --> 00:20:21,275
here there and everywhere,
wasn't just in Hull.
422
00:20:21,275 --> 00:20:24,034
There's places booked
where we could never
have got catering
423
00:20:24,034 --> 00:20:26,275
because we weren't able
to transfer food that far.
424
00:20:26,275 --> 00:20:28,758
It was just mass hysteria,
that's all.
425
00:20:28,758 --> 00:20:30,000
So I was totally shocked.
426
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,241
We just did whatever we could
to try and help.
427
00:20:34,896 --> 00:20:36,275
To see all these people,
428
00:20:36,275 --> 00:20:38,068
they were absolutely
heartbroken, horrified.
429
00:20:38,689 --> 00:20:40,068
They had lost all the savings.
430
00:20:40,068 --> 00:20:41,137
So I was totally shocked.
431
00:20:41,137 --> 00:20:42,517
Didn't know which way
to turn.
432
00:20:44,896 --> 00:20:46,379
Dana's customers
would have felt
433
00:20:46,379 --> 00:20:50,000
that they had some kind of
intimate relationship
with her.
434
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,103
After all, they're letting her
into one of the most important
435
00:20:53,103 --> 00:20:54,689
and personal parts
of their lives,
436
00:20:54,689 --> 00:20:55,724
their weddings.
437
00:20:56,172 --> 00:20:58,275
Dana was fanning intimacy.
438
00:20:58,275 --> 00:21:00,896
She was fanning
this emotional connection.
439
00:21:00,896 --> 00:21:03,655
And I think she did this
so they'd keep
their guard down.
440
00:21:03,655 --> 00:21:06,275
And it's quite disturbing
to think that this whole time
441
00:21:06,275 --> 00:21:08,379
she was pretending
to be personable,
442
00:21:08,379 --> 00:21:11,379
but really she was seeing them
as cash cows.
443
00:21:11,379 --> 00:21:14,793
Some of Dana's
personality traits
and characteristics
444
00:21:14,793 --> 00:21:17,068
are similar to those
of psychopaths.
445
00:21:17,068 --> 00:21:19,586
So not only is there
this massive lack of empathy,
446
00:21:19,586 --> 00:21:23,103
but psychopaths generally
are quite charming
and manipulative.
447
00:21:23,103 --> 00:21:27,000
In fact, I would say
that most psychopaths lie
to some degree.
448
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,034
they use their personalities
449
00:21:29,034 --> 00:21:31,413
so that they can manipulate
people around them.
450
00:21:32,862 --> 00:21:36,551
[Sam] The Facebook group
became sort of a, bit like,
support group, really.
451
00:21:36,551 --> 00:21:40,689
The people asking
if anybody knew who could
do the flowers,
452
00:21:40,689 --> 00:21:43,000
who could do the car
or their cake.
453
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:49,275
Then that's when the volume
of how many people
she ripped off
454
00:21:49,275 --> 00:21:50,413
came through.
455
00:21:50,965 --> 00:21:55,000
I was mad. I was angry.
I was upset.
456
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:59,241
I can't even explain
how mad and upset I was.
457
00:21:59,241 --> 00:22:01,034
Nobody had heard from Dana,
458
00:22:01,034 --> 00:22:02,862
and that's when I knew,
459
00:22:02,862 --> 00:22:05,931
she disappeared with my money.
460
00:22:24,896 --> 00:22:26,379
[Alex] Dana was nowhere
to be seen.
461
00:22:26,379 --> 00:22:29,000
She disappeared off the face
of the earth.
462
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,586
People were frustrated
and they wanted answers.
463
00:22:32,586 --> 00:22:36,000
There were dozens of people
that claimed that they
had been scammed by Dana.
464
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,000
All of these people
wanted justice.
465
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,896
[Nicky] I had a lot of people
message me
466
00:22:41,896 --> 00:22:46,724
who had seen quite a lot
of negative stuff about Dana
on Facebook as well.
467
00:22:47,586 --> 00:22:49,586
They had booked a wedding
with her,
468
00:22:49,586 --> 00:22:54,137
and the most important thing
for me was obviously
getting married to Jason.
469
00:22:55,172 --> 00:22:56,103
[Jason] It was shocking.
470
00:22:56,103 --> 00:22:57,586
We've got a wedding
in two days.
471
00:22:57,586 --> 00:23:00,448
We've got a hundred people
turning up for the wedding
472
00:23:00,448 --> 00:23:01,931
but we don't have a venue
as yet.
473
00:23:09,965 --> 00:23:13,000
Dana would have seen
her victims as prey all along.
474
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,586
The people
who were getting married
would have been quite stressed
475
00:23:15,586 --> 00:23:17,551
and quite excited
about their wedding day.
476
00:23:17,551 --> 00:23:19,482
So they
would have been distracted.
477
00:23:19,482 --> 00:23:21,448
This would have allowed Dana
478
00:23:21,448 --> 00:23:23,758
to continue extracting money
from them
479
00:23:23,758 --> 00:23:26,103
and give her the opportunity
to escape
480
00:23:26,103 --> 00:23:28,379
without them even really
paying her attention.
481
00:23:30,172 --> 00:23:32,793
[Nicky] I can only describe
like the next
482
00:23:32,793 --> 00:23:36,689
couple of hours of all days.
It was just being like a blur.
483
00:23:36,689 --> 00:23:37,655
Numb.
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00:23:37,655 --> 00:23:40,000
I didn't know where to go,
what to do,
485
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,655
where to go next,
486
00:23:41,655 --> 00:23:43,137
who to speak to.
487
00:23:43,137 --> 00:23:45,724
I was angry. I was hurt.
I was upset.
488
00:23:51,655 --> 00:23:55,379
Usually when people suffer
an acute
and unexpected trauma,
489
00:23:55,379 --> 00:23:57,517
there's a whole range
of emotions.
490
00:23:59,172 --> 00:24:02,586
Initially, there's this state
of disbelief
or being overwhelmed.
491
00:24:02,586 --> 00:24:04,379
And once that's passed,
492
00:24:04,379 --> 00:24:06,379
there can be
lots of different emotions,
493
00:24:06,379 --> 00:24:09,000
from anxiety, depression,
494
00:24:09,689 --> 00:24:11,586
anger, frustration.
495
00:24:11,586 --> 00:24:14,000
Sometimes, people
isolate themselves
a little bit
496
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,655
and they
could be quite withdrawn.
497
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:21,000
[Jason] The realism,
when it kicked in
was, "No. It can't be.
498
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,379
She wouldn't do that to us."
499
00:24:22,379 --> 00:24:24,103
Especially two days
before your wedding.
500
00:24:24,103 --> 00:24:25,655
That was the hard bit.
501
00:24:25,655 --> 00:24:28,034
Hoping the following day
we're gonna get a phone call
502
00:24:28,034 --> 00:24:29,965
saying, "Oh, we turned up.
We did our work
through the night.
503
00:24:29,965 --> 00:24:31,034
Everything is great."
504
00:24:33,896 --> 00:24:36,448
Nicky was still
understandably concerned
505
00:24:36,448 --> 00:24:38,965
three days before this marquee
wasn't there,
506
00:24:38,965 --> 00:24:41,172
and Dana still
wasn't picking up her phone.
507
00:24:41,172 --> 00:24:43,620
She wasn't
answering phone-calls.
508
00:24:47,482 --> 00:24:50,793
Until the day before,
I still thought she'd turn up,
509
00:24:50,793 --> 00:24:52,793
and I think
that's just my good nature.
510
00:24:52,793 --> 00:24:56,103
I think I was just being naive
to realize
511
00:24:56,896 --> 00:25:00,172
that how someone could do that
to somebody,
512
00:25:00,172 --> 00:25:01,517
and how I fell for it.
513
00:25:02,482 --> 00:25:04,655
[Phil] Felt a fool of myself.
I'd been suckered
514
00:25:04,655 --> 00:25:07,137
by somebody
who was very clever.
515
00:25:08,586 --> 00:25:12,172
A lot of these women
were left feeling embarrassed
and humiliated
516
00:25:12,172 --> 00:25:13,482
by what had happened,
517
00:25:13,482 --> 00:25:16,206
and that they got sucked in
and duped in by this lie.
518
00:25:30,482 --> 00:25:31,724
[Jason] One of our friends...
519
00:25:32,103 --> 00:25:34,896
had informed Stray FM.
520
00:25:34,896 --> 00:25:36,965
And Stray FM rang us
and said,
521
00:25:36,965 --> 00:25:38,965
"We wanna put this out
to everybody
522
00:25:38,965 --> 00:25:40,620
to get you some support
and some help."
523
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,379
There were so many people
that came forward,
524
00:25:44,379 --> 00:25:46,655
who volunteered to help us.
525
00:25:46,655 --> 00:25:48,724
It was just unreal.
526
00:25:49,551 --> 00:25:52,379
The Church then offered us
their room.
527
00:25:52,379 --> 00:25:56,379
As I said to Nicky,
"Do you know what,
we've got the church,
528
00:25:56,379 --> 00:25:58,482
we've got all these people
turning up.
529
00:25:58,482 --> 00:26:00,379
If we have to get married,
we will still get married,
530
00:26:00,379 --> 00:26:04,379
and if I have to sit
in the middle
of the church yard
531
00:26:04,379 --> 00:26:05,896
and have pizza,
532
00:26:05,896 --> 00:26:07,827
I don't care. That's how
we're gonna get married."
533
00:26:08,482 --> 00:26:10,034
We then had to repurchase,
534
00:26:10,034 --> 00:26:13,137
re-get another venue
for the daytime.
535
00:26:13,137 --> 00:26:15,172
Nighttime, we got the venue
for free
536
00:26:15,172 --> 00:26:18,379
but we still had to pay
for the food and set ups
and everything.
537
00:26:18,379 --> 00:26:21,137
In total, it was about £6,700.
538
00:26:27,068 --> 00:26:29,379
What she did prior
to our wedding
539
00:26:29,379 --> 00:26:30,931
was unquestionably despicable.
540
00:26:32,034 --> 00:26:34,655
There's no words
that we can say.
541
00:26:34,655 --> 00:26:37,689
However she didn't ruin
my wedding day.
542
00:26:37,689 --> 00:26:40,137
We made the best
of the situation.
543
00:26:42,793 --> 00:26:46,689
We were having a laugh
and a joke at the front
of the alter with everybody,
544
00:26:46,689 --> 00:26:48,310
just trynna
keep the spirits high.
545
00:26:49,689 --> 00:26:52,000
[Nicky] There was a lot
of marquee jokes
in the speeches.
546
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,241
You know,
and everyone is brilliant.
547
00:26:54,241 --> 00:26:56,517
And the day couldn't have gone
any better.
548
00:26:58,896 --> 00:27:01,689
We know that Dana
was a good wedding planner.
549
00:27:01,689 --> 00:27:04,965
Initially, she actually
provided a good service
to her customers,
550
00:27:04,965 --> 00:27:08,620
but at some point
she made the decision
to start scamming them.
551
00:27:09,275 --> 00:27:10,689
Was it premeditated?
552
00:27:10,689 --> 00:27:12,275
Or perhaps,
it was opportunistic.
553
00:27:12,275 --> 00:27:14,172
Perhaps, at some point she saw
554
00:27:14,172 --> 00:27:16,758
that there was a way
that she could extract
this money
555
00:27:16,758 --> 00:27:18,724
without actually doing
any of the work.
556
00:27:21,379 --> 00:27:23,379
[Nicky] I was annoyed
at myself.
557
00:27:23,379 --> 00:27:26,896
You just feel stupid
for trusting somebody.
558
00:27:26,896 --> 00:27:30,172
And in all honesty,
I really thought
that she would turn up
559
00:27:30,172 --> 00:27:31,241
if I just waited.
560
00:27:31,241 --> 00:27:32,827
She wouldn't do it.
561
00:27:33,482 --> 00:27:34,517
She wouldn't let me down.
562
00:27:36,793 --> 00:27:38,482
[Dr. Sohom]
Dana is an established actor
563
00:27:38,482 --> 00:27:40,172
and an establish liar.
564
00:27:40,172 --> 00:27:43,275
We see this by the way
she's able to gain trust
565
00:27:43,275 --> 00:27:44,793
in her victims.
566
00:27:44,793 --> 00:27:49,103
She shows them affection,
she uses kisses and emojis
in her messages.
567
00:27:49,103 --> 00:27:50,482
So to them,
568
00:27:50,482 --> 00:27:52,241
there's a personal connection.
569
00:27:52,241 --> 00:27:55,413
She's not just some
separate businesswoman.
570
00:27:58,241 --> 00:28:01,034
[Carl] At one point
I felt guilty
for what had happened
571
00:28:01,034 --> 00:28:03,758
because I felt like
we had helped her
get away with this.
572
00:28:03,758 --> 00:28:06,000
'Cause she was using
our pictures
and all of that lot.
573
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,758
When you find out
that she's used you
574
00:28:08,758 --> 00:28:10,551
to scam people.
575
00:28:10,551 --> 00:28:12,586
It's so easy that people
can get sucked into this.
576
00:28:15,344 --> 00:28:17,896
[Sam] When I called the police
and explained to them,
577
00:28:17,896 --> 00:28:19,034
they said to me
578
00:28:19,034 --> 00:28:22,689
it hadn't been past
my wedding day
579
00:28:23,448 --> 00:28:25,896
so I couldn't prove
that actually
580
00:28:25,896 --> 00:28:28,620
she disappeared
with my money.
581
00:28:34,586 --> 00:28:36,862
Dana's name
was being battered about
582
00:28:36,862 --> 00:28:40,551
and everyone
who had the Twidale surname
583
00:28:40,551 --> 00:28:43,413
was being associated
with what she was doing.
584
00:28:44,068 --> 00:28:46,034
Carl was technically
her husband
585
00:28:46,034 --> 00:28:48,551
but they had been estranged
for a long time.
586
00:28:48,551 --> 00:28:51,068
However, that didn't stop
people from targeting him
587
00:28:51,068 --> 00:28:53,965
and assuming that he
was in on all the scams.
588
00:28:53,965 --> 00:28:55,586
I wanted to help Carl
589
00:28:55,586 --> 00:28:58,655
to make sure everyone knew
that he had nothing to do
590
00:28:58,655 --> 00:28:59,827
with what Dana was doing.
591
00:29:00,379 --> 00:29:02,000
He was getting
sent death threats
592
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,000
and he claims that actually
she'd also scammed him
out of money.
593
00:29:07,275 --> 00:29:08,862
They were living
in separate houses
594
00:29:08,862 --> 00:29:11,689
and he was in the process
of trying to divorce her.
595
00:29:11,689 --> 00:29:14,275
He was mortified
by what had happened.
596
00:29:14,275 --> 00:29:16,482
He felt incredibly remorseful.
597
00:29:16,482 --> 00:29:20,793
A line he actually he used
to me was, "She should be
thrown to the wolves."
598
00:29:20,793 --> 00:29:24,517
Which kinda gets across
just how strongly he felt
about her.
599
00:29:26,448 --> 00:29:28,586
[Dr. Sohom]
After their marriage
breaks down,
600
00:29:28,586 --> 00:29:31,689
carl tries to end it formally
by sending her divorce papers.
601
00:29:31,689 --> 00:29:34,965
And what's interesting
is that Dana seems
to completely ignore this.
602
00:29:34,965 --> 00:29:36,172
She is indifferent.
603
00:29:36,172 --> 00:29:39,344
To me this shows
a massive irresponsibility.
604
00:29:39,344 --> 00:29:41,655
And that's interesting
because that's
another criteria
605
00:29:41,655 --> 00:29:43,275
for being clinical psychopath.
606
00:29:50,586 --> 00:29:52,689
[Angela Ayliffe]
When I initially heard
about Dana Twidale,
607
00:29:52,689 --> 00:29:55,379
she'd been working
as a wedding planner
608
00:29:55,379 --> 00:29:58,275
and allegedly
organized weddings,
609
00:29:58,275 --> 00:30:02,586
but not carried out
the services
that she promised.
610
00:30:02,586 --> 00:30:05,068
As more and more
reports came in,
611
00:30:05,068 --> 00:30:08,379
it was obvious
that she deliberately
offered services
612
00:30:08,379 --> 00:30:11,482
that she was never ever
gonna fulfill.
613
00:30:11,482 --> 00:30:13,931
So then, it is a fraud.
614
00:30:15,241 --> 00:30:20,758
It transpired
that she had organized
weddings in Wales,
615
00:30:20,758 --> 00:30:23,379
down south,
all over the country,
616
00:30:23,379 --> 00:30:26,172
and she was promising to be
in two places at once.
617
00:30:26,172 --> 00:30:30,068
It was decided that Homicide
would take any jobs
618
00:30:30,068 --> 00:30:32,655
in relation to Dana Twidale.
619
00:30:32,655 --> 00:30:34,448
And we would put 'em all
as one case
620
00:30:34,448 --> 00:30:36,034
to submit to the CPS.
621
00:30:36,034 --> 00:30:39,103
When I got
Dana's financial records,
622
00:30:39,103 --> 00:30:42,172
I could see that there
was money coming in
from the victim
623
00:30:42,172 --> 00:30:44,000
and I could see
money going out,
624
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,103
but it wasn't going
to where she said
it was going,
625
00:30:47,103 --> 00:30:52,310
and it wasn't paying
for things in respect
to the wedding.
626
00:30:56,137 --> 00:30:59,344
I screenshotted her
profile photo
627
00:30:59,344 --> 00:31:05,310
and put it on my Facebook page
asking if anybody knew
where she was.
628
00:31:06,896 --> 00:31:09,379
Because I met her husband
on the day she was dressing
the christening,
629
00:31:11,034 --> 00:31:15,103
I knew where he worked
so I went to go and see him,
630
00:31:15,103 --> 00:31:19,103
to ask him if he knew anything
about her whereabouts.
631
00:31:19,103 --> 00:31:20,275
And he hadn't seen her.
632
00:31:20,275 --> 00:31:23,517
He just said
that he didn't know
where she was.
633
00:31:24,068 --> 00:31:26,758
That day, originally,
I thought
634
00:31:26,758 --> 00:31:30,275
I've met her with her husband
who was singing her praises
635
00:31:30,275 --> 00:31:34,068
of how wonderful
she'd been
at other people's weddings
636
00:31:34,068 --> 00:31:35,586
and he was helping her
with the christening.
637
00:31:35,586 --> 00:31:41,482
I originally thought
that both pulled the world
over my eyes.
638
00:31:41,482 --> 00:31:44,586
So that's why I went
to go and see him as well.
639
00:31:44,586 --> 00:31:48,034
And I could see straightaway
by his face
640
00:31:48,034 --> 00:31:51,275
that he had no idea
what was going on.
641
00:31:55,275 --> 00:31:58,068
After leaving Nicky and Jason
in the lurch,
642
00:31:58,068 --> 00:32:00,689
Danna then decides
to run away.
643
00:32:00,689 --> 00:32:03,655
It shows
that she was impulsive
and irresponsible.
644
00:32:03,655 --> 00:32:06,620
Again, these
are typical features
of a psychopath.
645
00:32:08,137 --> 00:32:11,000
[Angela] By July, 2019,
646
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,000
Dana's life was coming
crashing down
around her shoulders.
647
00:32:15,689 --> 00:32:17,965
She had got
numerous weddings booked,
648
00:32:17,965 --> 00:32:20,103
none of the services
had been booked.
649
00:32:20,103 --> 00:32:22,482
Some of the weddings
were booked on the same day.
650
00:32:22,482 --> 00:32:25,793
She was reported as missing
by her ex-husband
651
00:32:25,793 --> 00:32:28,586
and a photo circulated
652
00:32:28,586 --> 00:32:32,931
on Facebook of Dana
on the beach, abroad.
653
00:32:48,724 --> 00:32:52,758
[Alex] Weeks were passing,
Dana was nowhere to be seen.
654
00:32:52,758 --> 00:32:55,965
There were dozens of people
that claimed that they
had been scammed by Dana
655
00:32:55,965 --> 00:32:58,413
and all of these people
wanted justice.
656
00:32:58,413 --> 00:33:00,448
There was very little
the police could do
657
00:33:00,448 --> 00:33:02,655
'cause just no one knew
where she was.
658
00:33:04,068 --> 00:33:07,724
Things suddenly changed
when a picture
of her appeared.
659
00:33:08,896 --> 00:33:11,965
A photo circulated
from somebody
660
00:33:11,965 --> 00:33:13,482
who was on holiday
in Benidorm.
661
00:33:13,482 --> 00:33:15,862
They had seen the pictures
on the Facebook,
662
00:33:15,862 --> 00:33:18,137
and said, "She's staying
in this hotel."
663
00:33:19,551 --> 00:33:21,965
[Alex] She has a very
distinctive tattoo on her back
664
00:33:21,965 --> 00:33:23,310
which gave her away.
665
00:33:23,310 --> 00:33:27,275
And immediately signified
that it was her.
666
00:33:27,275 --> 00:33:30,896
Her ex-husband got a photo
sent of her
sitting by the pool.
667
00:33:30,896 --> 00:33:33,206
You could see
that it was her
with all her tattoos.
668
00:33:33,206 --> 00:33:35,620
How did she rip people off
like that
669
00:33:35,620 --> 00:33:39,275
and then go and swan off
and sit by a pool
drinking cocktails?
670
00:33:39,793 --> 00:33:41,620
On everybody else's money.
671
00:33:41,620 --> 00:33:45,620
My feelings was
that she's a disgusting human.
672
00:33:45,620 --> 00:33:47,034
[Jason] Even while
she was texting us,
673
00:33:47,034 --> 00:33:49,482
she was in Benidorm
674
00:33:49,482 --> 00:33:53,172
having a holiday,
spending our money
and everybody else's money.
675
00:33:54,344 --> 00:33:56,172
[Nicky]
We almost felt embarrassed
676
00:33:56,172 --> 00:34:00,620
that we're working overtime
to pay back the money
that we owe to people
677
00:34:00,620 --> 00:34:02,482
and she's in Benidorm
by the poolside.
678
00:34:02,482 --> 00:34:06,482
And we're stuck here,
dealing with the mess
that she's left behind.
679
00:34:06,482 --> 00:34:08,206
We couldn't even afford
to go on a honeymoon.
680
00:34:11,482 --> 00:34:15,103
We knew she was abroad
and the inquiries were made
681
00:34:15,103 --> 00:34:20,275
to see
when she'll be coming back
into the country.
682
00:34:20,275 --> 00:34:23,758
Police believed that Dana
was gonna return to the UK
683
00:34:23,758 --> 00:34:27,275
because she
was staying in a hotel.
684
00:34:27,275 --> 00:34:30,586
It was put
on the national computer
that if she landed anywhere
685
00:34:30,586 --> 00:34:31,965
and the airports were aware.
686
00:34:31,965 --> 00:34:34,758
So that we knew as soon
as she entered the country,
687
00:34:34,758 --> 00:34:36,241
she would be detained.
688
00:34:49,448 --> 00:34:52,689
Dana was subsequently detained
at the airport
689
00:34:52,689 --> 00:34:55,620
and she was brought
into custody, into Hull.
690
00:34:57,206 --> 00:34:59,793
[Alex] She was arrested
shortly after her arrival.
691
00:34:59,793 --> 00:35:01,172
They interviewed her.
692
00:35:01,172 --> 00:35:04,000
Wanted to speak to her
about the allegations
she was facing.
693
00:35:09,689 --> 00:35:11,448
She didn't admit
694
00:35:11,448 --> 00:35:16,206
that she had taken the money
with no intention
of fulfilling the services.
695
00:35:16,206 --> 00:35:20,827
Initially, she was saying
that," I intended
to do the weddings."
696
00:35:25,965 --> 00:35:29,689
I think I was even more mad
when I found out
that she denied everything.
697
00:35:29,689 --> 00:35:30,896
Then, when I found out...
698
00:35:30,896 --> 00:35:32,896
She was being
caught red-handed.
699
00:35:32,896 --> 00:35:36,931
I had all the proofs
on the scale
that she had done it.
700
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,931
So then try and lie again?
701
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,206
[Alex] She was then released
on police bail.
702
00:35:45,206 --> 00:35:49,000
During that time, it's thought
that she managed to pick up
some more jobs in Hull,
703
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,482
and there were reported
sightings of her in
takeaways
704
00:35:52,482 --> 00:35:54,034
in and around the city.
705
00:35:54,034 --> 00:35:57,793
People couldn't understand
how she was still free
706
00:35:57,793 --> 00:36:00,896
and able to collect money
and work
707
00:36:00,896 --> 00:36:06,137
when she was accused
of all these horrific crimes
against people.
708
00:36:06,137 --> 00:36:08,275
[Dr. Sohom] When Dana
came back from Spain,
709
00:36:08,275 --> 00:36:10,517
she continued to work in Hull,
710
00:36:10,517 --> 00:36:12,172
and she did this
quite openly.
711
00:36:12,172 --> 00:36:15,724
People saw her working there
and some people were angry
at her presence.
712
00:36:15,724 --> 00:36:18,000
She seemed
completely indifferent
to this.
713
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,034
I think this really speaks
to her personality.
714
00:36:21,034 --> 00:36:24,000
People from all across
the country had been duped in
by Dana.
715
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,310
A lot of these women
were left feeling embarrassed
and humiliated.
716
00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:31,137
She managed o fleece
at least 20 couples
717
00:36:31,137 --> 00:36:33,689
out of over £15,000.
718
00:36:33,689 --> 00:36:35,310
That's what we know about.
719
00:36:35,310 --> 00:36:39,103
But there's the potential
that she may have allegedly
scammed even more.
720
00:36:39,103 --> 00:36:41,689
[Angela] Dana ruined
people's lives.
721
00:36:41,689 --> 00:36:46,172
What might not be
a huge amount of money
to some people,
722
00:36:46,172 --> 00:36:48,793
to those individual people,
723
00:36:48,793 --> 00:36:50,275
it was money
that they didn't have.
724
00:36:53,172 --> 00:36:56,517
Generally speaking,
psychopaths make
excellent con artists.
725
00:36:56,517 --> 00:36:59,620
Not only do they have
that core lack of empathy,
726
00:36:59,620 --> 00:37:00,827
but on top of that,
727
00:37:00,827 --> 00:37:03,379
they tend to be very charming,
very manipulative,
728
00:37:03,379 --> 00:37:04,517
very deceitful,
729
00:37:04,517 --> 00:37:05,896
which makes them
extra dangerous
730
00:37:05,896 --> 00:37:07,620
'cause they're very hard
to spot.
731
00:37:08,034 --> 00:37:09,310
At their very core,
732
00:37:09,310 --> 00:37:11,137
al psychopaths lack empathy
733
00:37:11,137 --> 00:37:13,379
and they're very good
at manipulating others,
734
00:37:13,379 --> 00:37:16,551
and they see everybody,
even their close friends
and family
735
00:37:16,551 --> 00:37:20,344
as victims,
as people that they
can potentially exploit.
736
00:37:23,241 --> 00:37:25,620
[Angela] We've got
a good case against Dana.
737
00:37:25,620 --> 00:37:28,862
As well
as the wedding planning fraud,
738
00:37:28,862 --> 00:37:32,275
there had been
previous allegations
earlier on
739
00:37:32,275 --> 00:37:34,034
when she was a lot younger.
740
00:37:34,034 --> 00:37:39,034
I found two incidents
back in '98 and '99.
741
00:37:39,034 --> 00:37:44,137
There were allegations
that Dana had
scammed two males
742
00:37:44,137 --> 00:37:46,482
who she'd been
in a relationship with.
743
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,000
She also was involved
744
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:53,241
in what the press office term
is a "Romance fraud."
745
00:37:54,862 --> 00:37:56,413
[Alex]
Dana loved to use Tinder
746
00:37:56,413 --> 00:37:58,137
as a way of scamming people.
747
00:37:58,137 --> 00:38:03,793
One of the most high-profile
and really sad cases
was a vulnerable man
748
00:38:03,793 --> 00:38:05,620
who had just lost his mother.
749
00:38:05,620 --> 00:38:10,551
Dana claimed
that she was escaping
an abusive relationships
750
00:38:10,551 --> 00:38:13,896
and that she needed money
to get away
from her violent ex.
751
00:38:13,896 --> 00:38:16,965
He was a very caring man
and was happy
to give her the money
752
00:38:16,965 --> 00:38:20,862
so that she could get away
and start a new life
for herself.
753
00:38:20,862 --> 00:38:24,724
She had absolutely no interest
in him, romantically,
754
00:38:24,724 --> 00:38:28,482
and she was just there
to try and scam him out
of as much money as she could.
755
00:38:28,482 --> 00:38:31,586
She manage
to steal £40,000 from him,
756
00:38:31,586 --> 00:38:34,172
and it had a huge effect
on him.
757
00:38:35,586 --> 00:38:38,482
The way
that these people manipulate
758
00:38:38,896 --> 00:38:41,137
is so real
759
00:38:41,137 --> 00:38:44,103
that you couldn't believe
that you're in a relationship.
760
00:38:47,103 --> 00:38:49,241
[Dr. Sohom]
One of the key things
that really stands out to me
761
00:38:49,241 --> 00:38:52,103
is that Dana
has a parasitic lifestyle.
762
00:38:52,103 --> 00:38:55,206
She's got this pattern
of leaching
off vulnerable people.
763
00:38:58,482 --> 00:39:00,896
[Angela]
Between the first interview
764
00:39:00,896 --> 00:39:01,862
and a second interview,
765
00:39:01,862 --> 00:39:06,206
we had a total of 27 victims.
766
00:39:06,206 --> 00:39:08,068
She said
that she needed the money
767
00:39:08,068 --> 00:39:11,586
'cause she was...
In the second interview,
because she had been gambling.
768
00:39:11,586 --> 00:39:14,241
She said that she got
into a vicious circle.
769
00:39:14,241 --> 00:39:18,103
But I still don't believe
that she had any intention
at all,
770
00:39:18,103 --> 00:39:21,379
otherwise she wouldn't
have been booking them
for the same day.
771
00:39:21,379 --> 00:39:24,482
The evidence
that we had overwhelming.
772
00:39:24,482 --> 00:39:29,000
We had got multiple people,
all saying the same thing.
773
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:44,103
Dana pleaded guilty
on her first appearance
at court.
774
00:39:48,379 --> 00:39:50,620
When we finally went to court,
775
00:39:50,620 --> 00:39:54,931
I read out
my victim impulse statement.
776
00:39:55,620 --> 00:39:58,206
I said how it made me feel
777
00:39:58,206 --> 00:40:01,103
that Dana would use
my mum's illness
778
00:40:01,103 --> 00:40:03,517
to receive gains from me.
779
00:40:03,517 --> 00:40:08,137
And then we heard
how sorry Dana was
for what she'd done.
780
00:40:08,793 --> 00:40:10,344
She never looked up once.
781
00:40:10,344 --> 00:40:11,896
She looked down at the floor.
782
00:40:11,896 --> 00:40:14,000
And if she was really sorry,
783
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,344
then when she was caught first
784
00:40:16,344 --> 00:40:19,241
she would have admitted it,
wouldn't she?
785
00:40:19,241 --> 00:40:22,758
It was really hard
to sit there
across from somebody
786
00:40:23,724 --> 00:40:28,068
that had done something so bad
787
00:40:28,068 --> 00:40:30,586
and somebody that you thought
you could trust.
788
00:40:30,586 --> 00:40:34,758
We just found out more
and more stuff
that she had just lied about.
789
00:40:37,137 --> 00:40:39,241
[Jason] The hardest thing
was the fact
790
00:40:39,241 --> 00:40:41,482
that every time something
was mentioned
791
00:40:41,482 --> 00:40:44,034
she was looking across
at all of us
792
00:40:44,034 --> 00:40:45,344
and she was smirking
793
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,758
as if it was just a game
to her.
794
00:40:49,758 --> 00:40:53,172
And why would somebody
that wants to make your day,
795
00:40:53,172 --> 00:40:55,137
the most special day
in the world,
796
00:40:55,137 --> 00:40:57,724
actually be as cruel
as what she was?
797
00:40:57,724 --> 00:41:01,068
And then to sit there
in the courtroom
and smile at Nikki
798
00:41:01,068 --> 00:41:02,344
was despicable.
799
00:41:06,586 --> 00:41:08,000
[Alex] When Dana
was sentenced,
800
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,241
it came to lights that she
managed to scam people
801
00:41:11,241 --> 00:41:13,344
out of a total of £60,000.
802
00:41:13,344 --> 00:41:17,206
She only had £600
in her account.
803
00:41:17,206 --> 00:41:18,620
People were infuriated.
804
00:41:18,620 --> 00:41:21,413
She clearly
didn't have the means
to be able to repay
805
00:41:21,413 --> 00:41:22,862
what she had scammed
out of people.
806
00:41:25,793 --> 00:41:27,241
Dana was given five years
807
00:41:27,241 --> 00:41:30,965
and that was the toughest
sentence that the judge
could impose.
808
00:41:30,965 --> 00:41:33,586
[Jason] I honestly believe
that the five years
that she was given
809
00:41:33,586 --> 00:41:38,068
was probably the best outcome
that we could ever ask for.
810
00:41:39,655 --> 00:41:42,310
[Sam] I was shocked
at how little she got
811
00:41:42,310 --> 00:41:45,137
for the amount of money
that she'd swindled
out of people.
812
00:41:45,137 --> 00:41:47,310
She has done
this sort of thing before,
813
00:41:47,310 --> 00:41:49,344
I think
she'll do something else.
814
00:41:49,344 --> 00:41:50,896
[Phil] What made it worse
for us
815
00:41:50,896 --> 00:41:54,275
was the fact
that Sam's mum was dying.
816
00:41:54,275 --> 00:41:57,103
It played on
that Sam was vulnerable.
817
00:41:57,103 --> 00:41:58,793
I was probably
at the most vulnerable point
818
00:41:58,793 --> 00:42:00,931
-in my life
that I've ever been.
-Yeah.
819
00:42:04,241 --> 00:42:05,965
If she was let loose,
820
00:42:05,965 --> 00:42:10,068
and she was allowed
to set up another
social media website,
821
00:42:10,068 --> 00:42:11,517
she'd be doing it again.
822
00:42:14,758 --> 00:42:18,931
[Sam] My mum passed away
on the 30th October, 2019.
823
00:42:22,551 --> 00:42:25,034
And we finally got married
824
00:42:25,034 --> 00:42:28,448
on the 15th October, 2021.
825
00:42:28,448 --> 00:42:31,068
Although the wedding
was perfect,
826
00:42:31,068 --> 00:42:35,344
I think it'll always be tinged
with a little bit of sadness
827
00:42:35,344 --> 00:42:38,620
and anger towards Dana.
828
00:42:44,241 --> 00:42:46,620
[Angela] If you're operating
on Facebook
829
00:42:46,620 --> 00:42:49,344
and you're not delivering
the services as promised,
830
00:42:49,344 --> 00:42:52,793
then you are gonna be brought
before the courts.
831
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,310
I think I've grown up
a little bit since that time.
832
00:42:58,310 --> 00:43:00,758
Maybe a better judge
of character.
833
00:43:00,758 --> 00:43:03,482
maybe, not to find somebody
on the Facebook.
834
00:43:03,482 --> 00:43:06,448
[Jason]
Thankfully to everybody
helping us on that day,
835
00:43:06,448 --> 00:43:08,344
we got the venues
that we needed.
836
00:43:08,344 --> 00:43:09,862
It was at a cost
837
00:43:09,862 --> 00:43:13,034
but there were so many
genuine people out there
that helped us.
838
00:43:13,034 --> 00:43:15,896
[Sam] A lot of nice people
came forward, didn't they,
839
00:43:15,896 --> 00:43:17,896
when i got my dress formed.
840
00:43:17,896 --> 00:43:19,586
People really pulled together
841
00:43:19,586 --> 00:43:21,896
to show that there's actually
nice people out there.
68931
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