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ryHS Iapo loading*
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*deep pulsing sound*
- Söe's so öappyaöoufher HeYersnöing SfoW CD
lI sounds jusf iike fhe moVie
*laughing and cAing*
- Diü you puf on ffte heaüpöones anü*isfen fo if?
- roor af ftersöe's a** - Hearif*ouür go *isfen fo if*ouü
Thaf was Chrisfmas 1ggg
I always wanfed Io wafch Töe HeYersnüinq SfoW because
5rsf of I had Ihe crush on AIreyu, as all young kids did
You gof fwe in fhe ffame wifh Ihis big moIherfuckor?
I would jusI go...
I'fw going Io puf iI liko hore Whore you cufIing me off aI?
All righI, so whaI wo're going Io do is you're gonna spafk iI
and you're gonna go "Ooddamn man, Ihis shiI's good''
''where'd you gof if from? The one on Modway?"
Thaf's fhe ono Thoso mofhorfuckers...Big Tfoe
You know, whaIever. We'il do sofwefhing liko fhaI
we'll hif iI and fhen we'll sfart
Cuz you goIIa go, iike ''Gh fhaf shiI's good''
For your mind and body, and spiriI whaI up?
So ifwagine you're 12 and Ihey go
''You're gonna sIaf in fho now ''Thor''''
You fucking ffoak ouf, righI?
Anybody who's wishing Io be famous
)usI waif Iill you are
lI should have been fho movie hofse
buf Ihey had me on somo sfable hofso
and iI goI spooked
i had Io iearn how Io walk again
I fell people l goIIa 5shbowi wifh dollar bills
please fake one cuz l know you wenf fo fherapy
My confribuIion fhank you
Tho whole HeYerSnüing SfoW Ihing is a weird biIIefsweeI
and if's perfecIly capIioned whon Tafwi and I siI in a panol fogefhor
We're liko fhe Yin fo Ihe Yang
and sho's liko fho whiIo and l'm Ihe dark
She has a cofwploIeiy opposiIe sfoH of mino
l know Michaei Hnde didn'I like Ihe Iilfw
Ho felI personally beIrayed by wolfgang
Noah, he's had a lof offrauma from Ihe business
The fwaking of The HeverHnüinC SfoH was a real follef coasIor ride
a wild roiier coasfer rido
and if's so weifd fo see fhe safwe experienco from
mo cofwpieIely diffefonf sides ofIhe specIrufw, you know?
*Music*
Life After fho NeverHnding SfoA
*Music*
Afo you filming already? - Yes
Ah, okay good
Töe HeYerSnüinq SfoW
The firsI Iime I learned abouI fhe noVol
was in a pub hore in Munich
Sofwebody came in selling
phoIocopies of noVels
and ono was a book callod The HeverHnüinq SfoH
The HeverHnüinq SfoH really is a poliIicai book
1g51 is fho year fhaf Ihe
Gorfwan alfernaIiVe fwovemenI was founded
Michael Ende was fhe guru of IhaI movemonI
FanIasiaiand is liko fho biuoprinf
for an alfernaIiVe sociefy
Töe HeYerSnüinq SfoW had a moaning wifhin Gorman socieIy
Hore cofwes Bernd Eichingor was who has a massive problom
wiIh aufhorify
who jusf couldn'f believe fhaI fhis guy was Iaking hifwseif
sO incredibly seriously
when l look aI fho fighIs bofweon Michael Hndo and Bernd
Ihey'fo foai culIufo wars
Befnd was born Ihe yoar Wosf Gorfwany was Iounded
When he sIartod fwaking movies in fhe Nazi Era,
for Gorfwan Cinefwa iI was a massive problom because
all Ihe inferesfing, complox peopie had ail imfwigrafed fo Hoiirwood
or Ihey'd been killed
German Cinoma was highly comfwerciai
and fhon Ihero was Ihe Oerfwan Art House Cinefwa
werner Herzog, Edgar ReiIz...
buI fhoy didn'I reach an audience
and his aim was fo bring Ihe mo IogeIher
Ho decided he was going Io buy a sfako in Consfanfin Film
Ho borfowed a million Deufschmarks which was a hugo afwounf of money
He was 2g
and said ''Okay if i wanf Io chango Oefman cinefwa
I have Io bo a producer and a disfribufor''
Tho 5rsI producfion as a producef was Chrisfiane r
Much Io fho surpriso of eveAbody iI was a big hif
Whon Bernd Iook over ConsfanIin Film
he said ''l can'f do fhis by fwyselt' So he broughf in Herman
and Ihe mo becamo guiIe a feafw
Tho cofwpany released anoIher big German movie Das aoof
Pooplo waIching Chrisfiane r wero youngor Ihan 16
Das aoof Ihey wore oidor Ihan 15
Wouldn'f if be greaI fo do a movie
where we have Ihe audience combined?
and l remefwber fhaf novei l had boughf in fho pub
So HelfwuI Diofi sIarted wriIing
He wanfs Io wriIe fhe screenplay buf
oniy under Ihe condifion fhaf ho aiso can difocf fhaf
Since Chrisfiane r
Bernd and I, wo had boen flavour ofIhe fwomenI in Ihe indusIA
and we wefo 00, veH cocky and
wo behavod iike IhaI
when we wanfed fo do Töe HeYerSnüinq SfoW
wo cafwe Io Hollrwood and eVory door was open
They aii iiked us, Ihey likod fhe projecI
Ihey didn'I like Ihe screonplay
lI was nof really Töe HeYerSnüinq SfoW
Bernd said ''you know, fhe guys like your piIch offhe sfoU''
''i fhink you haVo fo do IhaI''
A greaI profagonisI, you know whaI makes hifw go
buf ifwportanI fhaf ho goes
As an audience, you go wifh iI
EVon if iI's Iofally sufprising fo you
You can cuf down Ihe budgef
buI you cannof cuf down on fho cofwplexiIy
ofIhe proIagonisf
wefo you smiling?
I was all, iike usual, ali scowling
l hafe smiling
EVorybody loves my sfwile. i Iucking haIo sfwiling
lI's Ihe Iunniosf shiI
''Youf smiie is fhe besI fhing of you''
''Why don'I you smiie?'' weii, leI mo fhink...
l goI my SAG cafd in 1g74
i'm bofn in '71
i've worked fwy whole liIo
Frofw bofweon fouf and beyond i romombor preIfy fwuch everyhing
aartlesfaF, I jusI losI my baby IeeIh - Ahhh
i did iike
I Ihink iI was Ihe veA Iirsf Magic MounIain comfwerciai
I know if was fho 5rsI HoI nockeIs
♪ Hof Pockofs ♪ - Barbecue
Tho Sfar Wars cofwmorcial i fhink IhaI you'fo falking abouI
Tough bafIlo aIIic, Cofwmandor?
Shavaf Ross, he was on DiNrenf SfFores
l wouldn'I aiways eaI fhis much
He was a lifIlo biack kid wifh fwe in if
Good hunfing sifi
I goI GaIorade's... Popsi's...
I musf have dono six or seven Popsi comfwefcials
in a couple yoafs
l could chug an7hing
An7hing you could guzzie fhoy hired me for
''Billie Jean'' by Michael Jackson*
- risa *üirecfor: How was if worring wifh ktichaelZacrson?
If was... iI was crazy
Thaf's...IhaI's boing famous. wow
Michael Jackson, Pepsi New OeneraIionj ♪ You're Ihe Pepsi Gonerafion ♪
You kind of have Io bo a jack oI all frados being an acIof
I didn'I piay soccor buf
i goI a comfwercial and fhey're liko
''Oh, you know how Io do Ihaf Pelo kick?''
I don'I know how Io do if, buI I do if
An acfiYe cftilüoses luüs in mineras
Gaforaöe föirsf guencheFöeps puf föem öacr lasf
Thaf's how if was
Ho was supposed fo pick fwe up af gj00
AI g:00 l cailed him I go
''I know you're high and l know you fofgof fwe''
l said ''will you pleaso call fwe?''
So iike five minuIes laIef he goes
''Dude l jusf woke up''
l go ''how Ihe fuck did i know Ihaf?''
I goI fo Iake an Uber fo Ihe airport
He was all... Look ho's all... fwocking
BuI IhaI's when you...
Thaf's when sofwebody's Iamily when you'fo like...
or more Ihan fafwily when you're like
You've gof Io fun Io fho airport in an Ubor and miss your piane
and you'ro iike ''I don'I give a fuck''
I ioVe fhe guy so whaIover
Fucking asshoie
I have always been a book nerd
So l Iofally undersIood
whaI Ihis boy was going Ihrough
Afreyu is an alfer ego of Basfian
I fomefwbor ViVidly when l wroIe fhaf down
l could noI wfiIo as fasI as l was
Ihinking ofIhe siIuaIions
The idenIificaIion wifh
somebody in anofhof realiIy
Thaf was an importanf poinI for me
AI Ihe samo fime
wolfgang PoIersen had a huge success wiIh Das aoof
we sonI Ihe screonplay,
beafwing he said ''ThaI's a movie l wanI Io do''
As a difocfor, you need Io have a huge ego
Wolfgang and Bernd, huge egos
i moan hugo
And of course when fho nominafion came in
wolfgang's ogo became even bigger
And fhe nomineos are wolfgang PoIersen in Das aoof
applause
On a seI, fho word offho dirocfor is fho word of God
ThaI made iI more diOculI fo deal wifh him
If ho would have receiVod no nominafion af all
boliove me Ihe moVie would have lookod differonIly
AlIhough he was noI involVod in fhe screenpiay af all
Thore's nof one line from woifgang
If's ffom me and a Hollrwood wrifer
who was working undor Ihe psoudonym of 'woifgang Pefersen'
i'Ve made a career ouI oI working wiIh child acIofs
Nof all direcIors know how Io falk Io childfon
NoI aii children know how fo lisIon Io direcfors
Wolfgang had fhe abiliIy fo undefsIand
a chiidliko monfaliIy
There was a greaI chomisIU bofweon hifw and Noah
i also recognised fhaI he had a greaI chefwisfH wifh
ono ofIhe mosI beaufiful young wofwan I have
eVef had fhe pieasufo ofwofking wiIh
which was Tho Hmpress
When she camo on fho seI
eveAbody sIoppod
She was Audrey Hepburn boauIiful
She was an old soul
She was a seif-pfoclaimed VogeIafian
Nobody olse in fho fafwily was
Tho performance IhaI she gaVo
she jusf cafwe acfoss
like Basfian's fwofw
The performance was
Basfian's fwofw saying fo him
''If's going fo be okay''
''Why don'I you do whaI you dfoam, Basfian?"
iI was really veH moving
''Basfian, please''
desIrucIion
''Save usi''
And l fhink woifgang has Io be giVon
a fremondous amounI of crediI
fof allowing her Io do whaI she did
because she was fairly new in Ihe profession
This was a veH sensifive characfer and a Vory sonsiIiVo fole and
She naiied if
- eofö olfhose cameras are Funnnqr eYeryöing loors lovey
- Happness? - Yes
- roors supeF
l gfow up in lran. My pafonfs wefo archaoologisIs
ln '7g l was six
and we wenI Io lsraol for a yoar
and fhon wo wenI fo England for a year
we came Io Ihe SfaIes when i was eighf
The casfing direcforwas caiied Anna Gross
and she was friends wifh my acIing Ieachef
and she was like
''oh I'fw in Iown Io casI fhis film, do you wanf fo haVo iunch?''
So sho came Io fhe acIing ciass I was in
and she happened Io bo fen minufes early for fhoir lunch dafo
and saw Ihe Iaii end offho ciass and was liko
''Oh do you wanf Io come and audiIion Ior Ihis?''
l was consIanfiy audiIioning for sfuff
and I came hofwe and l'fw like ''Mofw, l wanI Io audifion for someIhing''
and if was affor one of fwy plays where had jusf done niglef
and I showed up in full pig fwake-up fo Ihe audiIion
and Anna Gross saw mo and she was like
iaughing
''Whaf is on yourfacei?''
iaughing
So in fhe baIhfoom she Iried fo help mo wipe iI aii off and
I did fhe audiIion
and fhen wo hoafd back Irofw wolfgang
''JusI wanI Io soe hor again wiIhouI pig mako-up
Would fhaf be an opIion?'' iaughing
So, we wenf Io L.A
and Ihen I fhink my parenIs were sIarting Io gof norvous
cuz Ihey wore like ''Ihis is nof iocal, whaf is happoning here?''
buI I was really, reaiiy gung-ho so Ihey hufwoured me
and fhon Ihefo was anoIher audifion in Gorfwany after fhaf
So i had Io move Io Ihe nover... l had Io fwove fo The HeverHnünC SfoH
Proffy much
l had fo moVo fo Germany for ovef a year
So usually you go in, you see a casfing direcfor
fhon Ihey call you back and you see maybe Ihe difocfor, producer
Maybe ono more and fhen you gef Ihe job
So fhis fwusI haVe boen... we wefo five, six inIo if already
and Ihey wefo like ''okay, you'ro hired''
and iI was wiIh HelfwuI
and fhon Ihey fired him
and fhoy sIarted all over again
Two years Io do fhis moVie
i audifionod Ior a year and iI was fhaI, i mean
l couldn'I cuf fwy hair
i couldn'I do anyIhing
Movies don'f cofwe around like Ihaf so in ' 60 fhaI was liko a
S20... S00 million fwoVio
Today Ihaf's iike a big Marvel moVio
So ifwagine you're 12 and Ihey go
''You'ro going Io sIar in Ihe new ''Thor''''
You fucking ffoak ouf, righI?
For sofwe reason Ihe whole fucking famiiy had Io go fo Oerfwany
My dad, ho has a MasIors in TheaIre Art, of he had
and he always wanfed fo be an acIof and he was acIually really good
buI he had Polio when he was a kid
l jusf Ihink he nover goI pasI fhaI
i fhink maybe iI's Ihe failed succoss becomes fhe kids bufden
l don'I know if if was manipulafion
cuz l don'f Ihink iI was like a conscious fhing
buI nobody's working and your kid soes Ihaf
So fhey go ''iI you don'f like if, ifyou're nof happy
...you don'f have Io bo in Ihe business''
well, who olse is bringing fwoney in?
Thaf was whaf i knew
ThaI's all eveAbody's life fovoives around
My parenIs)usf geared me for fhaI, iike
I was acfiVo, i always dancod
and fhaf was sofwefhing I loved fo do buI
if you had a loVe for someIhing Ihey Iurnod iI info
a comfwodiIy
i am in fhe Old Sguare in Munich
l'm here bocause Ihis is fhe 5rsf fifwe
i'fw back in Munich sinco i was fen years old
We are going fo go Io fho Bavaria Sfudios
whore I'fw incredibly fortunafe I'm going Io bo given
a privaIo four, I heaf, ofIhe sIudios
and l'm imagining IhaI maybe
I'll gef Io ride Faikor, Iinaiiy laughing
Wo're sIanding in fronf of Sfago 4ö
lI's our mosf famous sfage hero
This is fho place whore Töe HeYerSnüinq SfoW was shof
All Ihe big sofs Ihaf you can soe in fhe moVie
wore pfoducod behind mo
l asked Tami ''haVo you eVor boen here for fho lasI 40 yoars?''
and and she hasn'I so if's hafd fo belieVo
and now she's back horo and we are very pfoud having hor hefo
-Anü ffts is fhe rea rakor? - If was made of iaIex, Ihen
and iaIex doesn'f lasf for 40 years
So wo fonew Falkor oveH fhree monfhs
- HveH fhree fwonIhs? - Yes
because eveAbody wanfs Io sif on if
He is noI anymore in fho sfudio fouf
because in fho sfudio Iour only Ihreo or four
of a group can siI on him - Yes
and eveAbody wanfs Io, and so he's here
GoI if
A
Hollo laughs
i'fw working here for 24 years now,
haif offhe iife of Faikor
There's one fhing wo kepI
ffom Ihe original, Ihose afo fho eyes
The eyes of Falkor afo sfiii
Ihe original eyos frOm 1g50
and we are Vory pfoud Io haVe hifw hore
For fworo fhan 00 years iI was a part offhe sfudio fouf
OIher films are made hero in Ihe BaVaria FiifwsfadI
Somofimos we afo called
IhaI sofwebody wanfs Io sif on Faikor or soe Faikor
Ono examplo is Joseph Gordon-Loviff
He said he bocafwe an acIof because
he saw Tfte HeveFHnüinC SfoH
Thaf was one offhe biggesf mofwenIs of his lifo
This is finally
my fwomenI Io ride Falkor laughs
l'm fwissing fho wind
so l have fo mako my own
laughs
Bye Faikor
Falkof's inspiraIion was from
Tessa, an Ifish seIIef
This is someIhing I sculpfed when l was
molve yoars oid
Falkor, in German, is caiied Fuchur
So fhis was his nafwe in fho book
and fhon l asked fho producer DieIor Goissler
l said ''Diefer, why did you Ihen change Ihe nafwe - Falkor?''
and ho said ''one of our producfion partners in Ihe US
she callod fwe
''we have somo problom wiIh fho namo of dragon''
and i said ''whaI problom? If's Fuchur, iI's a gfoaf name''
''say 'Fuchur' in Hngiish''
and fhon he said ''okay... we have Io chango if"
laughs
Thefo was one pieco of scuipIure
for Ihe Falkof you soe wiIh fho boys
and Ihen we did )usI Ihe middle part offho body
double sizo
for fho seguence whoro you see
Ihe lady sIick fhe syringe in
cries
I did fho sculpIuro and cfoafed fhe make-up
Ior Ihe mo gnofwes
Did Ihe baid cap on Sydney Bromloy
Suddenly had Ihe idoa
i puf Ihose liIfle rabbify foefh on her
Thoy were fun. They really worked Vory well
They were veA ploased wifh fhose fwake-ups
- l'm so nervous, you know - Are you?
- asking all Ihese guesfions - Oh sofAi laughs
As a cinefwaIographor
fwy fole is Io fell Ihe sIoH
oIfhe film in images
l camo from Das eoof which I shof
all handhold
Töe HeYerSnüinq SfoW was fanfasy
i was never Irainod in Ihis so I had
fo invenI a ioI ofIhings
wiIh aIfwosphere... smoke... wiIh haze
Blue screon is anoIher fhing
Whaf is moVing picfures?
lI's fwovefwenI
I have Io giVo fho feoling
oI being part offhe scone
wowi
"Afreyu's FlighI'' by Klaus Doldingor
Abouf Ihe fwid '50s
working wifh biuo scroen
was exIrefweiy lifwiIed
We had Io shoof iI wiIh VisfaVision cafwera
Long lenses which have a narrow fiold offocus
ThaI means
you noed a loI of iighf
Thaf fweans a lof of heaf
ln fho Swafwp of Sadness
oveHbody was wearing Iheso whife clofhes
if was so hoI and if was so humid
we had Ihis probloms wiIh Faikor
iI sfarted molIing
Tofal Pecall, or Sfarsöip TroopeFs of Hoow ktan
They wore films wefo veU
demanding Iechnicaiiy
Töe HeYerSnüinq SfoW, I could Iilm a real puppeI
Whaf i have Io do is fwake fhefw
roaiiy believable
as a living fanIasfic creaIuro
The SIonebiIer is huge
Ho biIos in Ihe sIono and fho sfono breaks apart
fho part's falling down
if if's a puppef like fhis, if falls down like guick
buf iI's huge, so you have Io shooI iI high spoed
cofwes down in siow fwoIion
rocks faiiing and cfashing
Also fhe speaking
has fo be ''faaa''
So, of courso you shoof if high speed
so Ihaf iI geIs sfrofchod
and iI geIs fho hoavinoss
VeH fasIy
The same wiIh Morla, exacfly fhe safwe
Forgof if
If's veH difficulf fo puI an expression info Ihe Iace
of a fortoise
Really she jusf falks
and Ihen sho's gof Ihe sneeze, and
how are you going Io gof fho snoeze?
So I came up wiIh Ihe idoa
we had a fwechanisfw fhaf did fhaf wifh fhe eyes
so... wheezing
and IhaI's whefo you geI Ihe oxprossion
wheozing
and fhen, fwy mum scuipIod a liIIle one
which was a hand puppef
forwhon you soe if coming ouI info Ihe
Swamp of Sadness
croaky laughing
Poor fhing
You know if's... Ihis is...
You're iooking af 20 years of nogiecI
He's fwado oIfoafw rubbef
and Ihen inside fuii of aii sorts of fwechanisfw
The eyes wefo fadio confroiled
They had lighfs in fhom
These afo original scaies
There's mo Iongues here
inside Ihis
Ono ofIhefw, l Ihink is an ofiginai
Giuseppo Tortora made Irefwendous
mechanism Ior Ihe IOngue, if usod Io curl up
so when he's falking he can
acIually form his Voweis. You remefwber if, no?
The fongue moVing around
AIreyui
Thefo were iifIlo fhings hore which used fo
pull fho nose back so he could
make sniffing movemenIs
Yeah
- He was qonq fo öave wings? - He... Laughing
You... i've beon found ouI
Yes, Ihe whoie concopf of how fo make fho wings
l didn'f have conIidenco in iI, and I kind of
pushed iI fo one side
Nobody guesIioned if and
so he cafwe ouf as fhis kind of
iizard liko characIef
l now know how Io make mechanical wings for Falkor
if he rises again
Cofwe on somebody, Iind us sofwe...
find us sofwe money and wo'll
fwake anoIher HeverSnüing SfoW
- Wöaf mpresseü you mosf aöouf your exrerience on föe lilm?
For fwe if was fhe Rockbifer
Ah Ihe Rockbiferi
Yes, he's around
This is Ihe original isn'f iI?
So fhaf is Ihe copy
Ihaf camo ouI ofIhe originai fwould
fo IesI IhaI fhe mould was ciean
Ho usod Io sifjusI abouI IhaI high
When he was siIIing down
mo peopie operaIing Ihe fwouIh
fwo people operafing fhe eyes wifh radio confrol
The smiles and fhings iike fhaI were done wifh cabies
1 1 oporaIofs I boliove
and 02 operaIing Faikor
I know exacfly whaf l was going Io do
as soon as I saw Falkor
The oponing line is jusf...
iI Ieiis you whaf Faikor is
- Leaving... - so soon?
i moan IhaI sefs Ihe Iono
i'fw going Io weep laughing
Oh l )usf love Ihaf
Thaf and Ihe Hrincess eriüe
As you wish
Could you iook aI Ihe RockbiIef?
I knew exacfiy whaf Io do
Mmfw... l love Ihe Iasfe of granife chewing
Mmfwm...mmmfw
Oh, could you do Gfwofk?
l said ''lef me soe iI''
l said ''yeah l couid do IhaI'' hiss
So The Nofhing grows sIronger
SIarted Io ieave... ''Oh.."
''would you mind doing fho narfafor af Ihe ond?''
l said ''fine''
Basfian made many oIher wishes
and had many ofhef amazing advenfures
so ho gof four good voicos for fhe pfico oI one
and I ioVod iI
So when l go Io Ihe convenIions
and i'Vo done a lof of diffefonf characfers
Translormers, eVoryIhing
buI fhore's mo characIers fhaI fhoy wanI fo know abouf
Falkor and SkeleIof
who does IhaI cabbago fhink ho is?
And I always iook for comedy, l in)ecI cofwedy
SkeieIof had no laugh when l firsI did iI
He was a Villain
and abouf Ihe socond or fhird episodo
i don'f know why I did if
I puf in Ihe evil iaughIoJ
evii iaughIef
Voice acIors haVo fo commif Iofally
For me, I bocofwe
Ihe characfer
l'm a Luck Dragon
Never heafd ffom Munich again affor IhaI
would haVo boen nice Io
say ''why don'I you como on ouf hefo?" you know?
There was an inqaIed IenI
and Ihey puf all fhe pfops, overyhing
for HeverHnüinq SfoW l in fho fenf
Thore was a veH heam snoWall
and fho fenf collapsed
lnsfead ofwaifing unIil fhe wafor dried
fhoy cieared if wiIh a buiidozef and fwado an insurance ciaim
so for HeverSnöing SfoW ll
we had Io do if all again
Very, veU difficulf
Looking back
fhe ono fhing fhaf disappoinIs me
woifgang was nof awafo of how fwuch effort
l puf inIo Ihaf filfw
fo have mo on his noxf
i'm Vory sad abouI fhaf
He didn'I know how hard l'd wofkod
waIching Wolfgang work wiIh Noah
I felI woifgang was a liIfle frusIraIod
He wasn'f gefIing whaf ho wanfed
Ho was a iiffie bif precious
i was ouI abouf mo monfhs befofo wo sfarted shoofing
lI should have been fho movie horse
buI fhoy had fwe on sofwe
sfable hofso and ho goI spooked
and he fook off
and so I )usI gfabbod some hair
buI he was going fof Ihe gaIos
and he wenI Io jufwp Ihe gaIos
and qipped over and ianded on fop of fwe
so l couidn'I feel fwy legs for fhree days
So I fhoughf Ihaf was a wrap on me. Period
So fhe feeling came back buI I was in IracIion already
Like, you'fo in an apparafus IhaI's pulling you
bofh direcIions
l was in fhaI alfwosI mo fwonIhs
24y - i slopf in if, iived in iI, like
IhaI fucking sucked
So l don'I Ihink Ihey even
wero roaiiy sure if I was going Io
mako fho movie or nof, af Ihaf poinI
buf i fhink being pliabie, and 12 and...
sIrong
fhaf probably kepI me frofw
jusf boing in a wheelchaif. I mean, I know if did
I didn'I hear of any ofIhe in)ufios
i didn'I see Ihem 5rsfhand
lI's preIIy uncomfwon for acIors Io geI injured
Wo're roaiiy Vory carefui abouI
limiIing fhe kinds oI acfiViIios fhaf fhey
participafe in
Buf oveH now and fhon
even in a rehearsal
sIuff happons
- WeFe you aware olHoaö qeffing inureü on seffnq reöeaFsals?
l heard abouf Ihaf buf cannof fell you anyIhing
I wenf fo ono premiore buI iI wasn'f
a promiore, iI was liko a screoning
I had nofhing Io do wiIh an7hing
i wasn'I involVed in any ofIhe afIerfwaIh, none ofIhe
fho accolado...nofhing
All ofIhaf, a year shooIing
If was only supposod fo be a fhree monfh shooI
So you figure okay, I goI a conIracI fof Ihfoe fwonIhs
buI if's Iurns inIo a year
you haVo fo fucking pay mo for fhaf
Why would if be any diffefonf?
My parenfs wore... eVorybody was fucking pissod
EVerybody was screaming around, like
yeah, i was liko "l'm ouIIa hore''
I pofifioned Io bo efwancipafed
I fhink i was 14 when if sIartod and if fook
iike almosf a year fo geI...
...l had fo go Io court, and I had fo do all fhis shif
Money was already gone
i gof Io spond Ien bucks...
Thaf's funny when people go
whaf'd you geI from The HeverHnünq SfoH?
i go ''Ien bucks in vidoo games''
- s scripfwrifing lor you one o your man qoals af fhe momenf?
Oh yoah
- Has f faren oYeracfnq?
Gh if has, no if has, IhaI's all I'm doing
So i haVe iike 1ö Spociai Forces in fwy phone)usf
00 yoaf... 2ö year... a guy... SecreI Sorvico
As soon as l sIarted Iaiking Io fhose guys
real shif abouI fho show
l mean before Ihey oven read iI, Ihey wore like
''This has Io gof done''
''You goIIa fwake iI''
''Somebody's gonna fH fo kili you broIher''
So fhe iead
when he gofs
fhoy gof blown up in a friendly 5re incidenI
which basically fweans ono offheir own fuckefs
biew Ihefw up which happens ali Ihe Iime
when shiI goes fucking crazy
iI's nobody's faulI like iI
one coordinafe goes fucking...
you goI a nine and a fouf
l'll geI numbers wrong aii Ihe Iifwe
i goI...l jusf had liko a Kofoan guy call mo
l swear fo God, l punched in fho wrong...
I swear Io God, dude
He's laughing his ass off, if's...
''Who 'dis?''
lrish Pub
Soe perfocf, Iufn around and
I can geI a Jameson and a Guinness
This gifl goes... laughing
She puf posI she goes
''whaI would you do Io fwe...
ifyou had me liko fhis in your kiIchen?"
and she's nakod in Ihe kiIchen
and l said ''I'd have you do aii fwy dishes''
iaughing
I'fw nof going Io comfwenI on her boobs Ihaf are ouI
Thaf's sfupid
Io... fo gef spankod
- s Veqasusfqoing fo senü you crazyn föe enü?
- s föaf wöaf's gonna harpen?
l suspecf l mighf end up in Texas af sofwe poinI
Texas is liko ono oI Ihe only coupie of sIaIes loft
IhaI you'fo foaily fucking freo, and
I'd die for fho counfH in a heartbeaI
Abso-fucking-lufely and if if ever came Io Ihaf
I gof my rw show l'm frying Io geI funded and
i have a guy who's 00 yeafs Spociai Forces...
Cofwmander ho...
He's boen he's going Ihfough fho scfipf
He goes ''dude l Ihis is so goddafwn good, l can'I eVon...
...fucking Iake iI''
Oh Ihaf's a good sfoA Ioo
see fhis is why l Ieii sIories
Look af Ihe cuIie...
ln my mind Sfudio 4
was a...
was iike a gianf IenI
which is cieariy, Iofally wrong iaughing
l'm )usf shockod aI fho scalo of iI
Can you ifwagine filling Ihaf whole Ihing wiIh fwud?
Like, iI's insano
and iI was wall fo wall
We'fo on fhe Iour hore af Ihe Bavaria Sfudios
and Ihis is one offhe sIops
and we are wiIh Ihe Rockbifer
Byo iaughs
Me and Arnold
All Aboard
when we wore shoofing fhe grain of sand scone
Wolfgang was picking which pro5le fo use
He was iike ''Gh definifely your fighf profilo''
So now I have Ihis fhing whefo l'm like
''Oh dofinifoly my righI pro5iei'' laughing
My IoeIh fell ouf, bocauso i was fen
and iI was Ihe canines, like Ihese feeIh
And Ihey wefo so bufwmed
because i had come and dono fho audifion wifh all my IeeIh
and Ihen I came back and i was missing Ihese IeeIh
and Ihey wore like ''well we can'f have...
an Empress wiIh iike...'' laughing
''Soi''
I had fo go info a donfisf
who was going fo make a denIufo fhaf
siipped over my Iop IeeIh
and iI was horriblo
if was a preIIy big chunk oI plasIic in fwy fwouIh
So I cofwploIeiy lisped
Why do you look so sad?
Oh if was preffy funny
and Ihen I was so happy when I didn'I
didn'I haVo fo wear if for fhe second scene
iI was ioVoly
As many as you wanI
genIle piano fwusic
Sound sfages are amazing
iaughing
Kind of makos mo wanI fo dance
The palace was builf hore because iI was a big seI
l was in Ihe lvory Towef
jusI when Noah goes up
Io say he'il saVe FanIasia
l was sIanding behind hifw wifh
a shoep skin rug
and bfonze mako-up
This scone
ifyou sIop Ihe fooIage and really look closely
Ihere's an Ewok characIer in Ihefo
H.T Ihe ExIra-Torrosfrial's in fhore
if was jusI 10 days
jusI fo film Ihaf small socfion
Me and 5Vo oIher small people
Two of us played mushroofws, fhe ofhef four
piayed Ihe grass peopie
Thaf's Brian
AI HeaIhfow beforo...
Aibort who was one offho original Oompa Loofwpa's
Me and Brian on fho 0ighf
This was a 5ifw where Ihey didn'f do so fwuch CGi
and fhefo was abouf
00 oxfras on fhore
We wefo ali differenI Iroops
and we wore aii fwoved around liko hords of sheep
lI was very hoI
The sof was brighf whife
Mosos was doing a sceno
and iI was guife a close-up Io hifw
and he lookod aI fho direcfor, and he said
''If's foo hoI for eVorybody''
''l wouid )usf do Ihese cioso-ups oI me
lof eVeryone else go''
So wo ali had Ihe day off
i really fhoughf if was going Io be a big, big film
l IhoughI Ihis could have been my sfep inIo sfardofw
buf Ihen again i was only a mushroom
You didn'I haVo, back Ihen, any visual effecfs
You had special effocfs, buI no Visual offecIs
You had Io do everyhing by hand
The Swafwp of Sadness
afIer a Iow days shoofing
naIure made iIs way
Thoy foaily folI hofwe liko fho bugs and overyhing
Ihey woro in Ihe woods, and in fho earth
and in Ihe swamp, and everyhing Ihey broughI in
wifh Ions of ecological maferiai
if sIartod Io live
I ioVod going behind Ihe scones
l gof Io seo fho Swafwps of Sadness
lI was Ihe biggesI sfage of Ihe Bavaria Sfudio
- Tare one enü hoarü cameras one anö fwo
He usod all ofIhaI spaco
building Ihe floor, fho frees
fhon Ihefo was a painfed background
exIonding Ihaf landscape
When you'fo shoofing a painfed backgfound
you have fo be careful fhaf if's nof Ioo clear
and if's noI fo Ioo sharp in focus
Like in fhe Swamp oI Sadnoss
you shoof iI wifh loIs of smoke
so IhaI you could hido fho backgfound
genefal on-seI chaIIef
''Thome of Sadness'' by Doidinger Morodeú
Now fho scene wiIh fho horse. Hfwmfw.
''Thome of Sadness'' by Doidinger Morodeú
Come on, Artax
''Thome of Sadness'' by Doidinger Morodeú
The hofso. I can'I even falk abouf if
WhaI's Ihe maIIer?
whaI's wrong?
- Töere is some öeöinü föe scenes foofaqe ollminq
-föe Swamp olSaüness, anü flooks lre Wofqanq's cHnq...
He was
Artax, ploase...
You're ieIIing Ihe sadnoss of Ihe swamps geI fo you
You haVo fo Iry, you have Io care...
Please boy, for fwe
You haVo fo cafo, you haVe fo fry... You're my friend
- l love you - Nowi
Artaxi You sIupid horsei
You'Vo goIfa moVo or you'il diei
Move ploase
i won'f give upi Don'I nuiIi
Artaxi nloasei
cfickefs
cfickefs
- ls if emofona loryou fo fm? - Yeah
Tho horse was really going down fhefo
lI was nofjusf a Irick
if's nof a fighIor. A horse is a
fleeing anifwal
l Ihink we had mo or fhree horses
Ihe same coiour
and we had animal Irainors
They ffained aii fhreo ofIhefw
Finally Ihey found Ihe one
I fhink fhoy worked for weeks
unIil fhaI horse was Irainod in Ihe way
underwaIef IhaI)usf head looks ouI
There was sort of an olevaIof in Ihe Iank
Wolfgang had been on fhe conIrol
He reaiiy confroiled fhe faIo offhe horse
Bernd was sifIing preIIy close fo him
and Bernd loved horses
Bernd was Iruly
considefing fo sfop him
BuI he wanfed fo see...
You should feol fhaf if's foal
You cannof direcI a horso, you cannoI feli hifw
''show a iiffle bif fwore feaf''
I have a suspicion
WolIgang wouldn'I have cared
fo really kill fho horse
You seo fho eyos coming ouI ofIhe...
l Ihink Ihe horse was aIraid
Ugh...
Maybe you wanI Io cuf fhaf
iaughing
Y'all had fo go Ihfough fhaI for a minufe
Thaf's mo weeks
EVery day. Six days a week
12 Io 14 hours a day
Nof only are you cUing and screaming
-Acfon - Artaxi
You're sinking, como oni
Buf eVory Iime you shooI a sceno
You'vo goIIa gef showered
You've gofIa fo-dress
You goffa remako aii Ihe fucking mud and spoIs
Ihe way fhoy were Io fwafch Ihe sceno befofo
So)usf Ihink, I moan
00 showers, changing...
scfoaming, cning for mo weeks
Yoah, your Ihefapy ain'I shif
Liko fhaI's... l need fhorapy
Poof Noah
He was really cold and weI for a really long Iime
His exporience offho film was so much harder fhan mine
I had a really small part, and l saf on a bed
iaughing So...
They had fho wonderfui idoa of giving
me a horse Ihaf l've goI Io Iake back fo Caiifornia
Tho hero hofso
So l gave iI fo Ihe sfunI doubie
and he had a fanch in Gorfwany
and Ihey had Ihe horse Ior like 00 yeafs
Did ho foaiiy dio?
l was confacIed by Ihe producIion company
fo do sIunI wofk for AIreyu
He was really a Vory shafp young fwan
He ioVod Ihe idoa Ihaf he had a sfunf fwan
buf l will puI props ouf IhaI Noah
was guiIo physicaily adepI himseif
Thefo were a lof of scenes Ihaf
I fhink fhoy had expecIod fwe Io bo
inVolved in
and fhen we all kind of realisod
weii, he can do fhis
when we've losf Artax
sniffs l need a fwomenI
Somo of Ihe scenos whore you soe
feeI Iraipsing fhrough fho mud
g0X ofIhe Iifwe IhaI's fwe
fhen for Ihis giganfic flying Luck Dragon
fo como in, fho fiming of grabbing fwe
and puiiing me away
reguired a lof of rehearsal
The mosI cofwpiicaIed scene fhaI I had fo do on
Töe HeYerSnüinq SfoW
was Ihe sceno where
Afreyu is being pulled
frofw being hofizonfal Io Vortical
The sef was on a gifwbal
so IhaI Ihe camoras and myseif
and all fhe debris wouid all be IilIed
Io a g0u posifion
They wanIed Ihe floor fo come up liko fhaI
and fho hydraulic cyiindefs wouid be Ihero
BuI whaI we did, wo puI bearings on eifhef bif
so iI roIafed
so all we had Io do fhon was fo pull if wiIh cables
and Io pull iI we jusf usod a massive fofklift ffuck
sIoffw sounds
All ofIhe debris fhaf's 0ying was relaIiVoly lighmeighI
Nof all of iI
The Iricky part was
solling Ihe perfoffwance
in such a way fhaf Ihe Iiming
looked as if The NoIhing
was goffing sfrongor as if progressed
Tho mofo closer Io verticai Ihe sof bocafwe
fho mofo I had Io fime ouf grabbing Ihe branch offho free
and Ihen uififwafely lefIing graviIy
puil my legs up offIhe ground
and aiiow myselffo hang fhore
Thaf was abouI a 20, 40ft drop fo fhe sfage qoof
ifIhings didn'I go woll
They have fhe close-up and Ihey haVo fho masfer
buf bocause if's a fwasIef
you had Io move all fho boxes and fhe bullshiI...
so iI's iike a y0ft drop
Yoah you have a iiffle cablo
l'm 12, I iook down l go
''Fuck fhaf, gef Bobby''
BuI I did do Ihe close-ups, you saw fho seI
Tho wholo seI has Io IilI
so you have Io have clear-ago
if was sIili Ihree sIories
- Cufl
-Anü cuf
So Bobby did Ihoso
and l Ihink he did one Iree ono, blowing ouf offhe free
BuI i don'f fhink fhey used iI
l know fhey didn'I use iI
cuz Ihaf's my sfupid ass geIIing blown ouf fho free
The goai of any good sIunf performor is
Io bo hidden
lI was a veH seamiess ffansifion frofw Ihe sIuff l did
Io fho sfuff ho did
sneoze
Then l didn'f know whaf KY really was
buI Ihey had like Ion gallon drufws oI Ihis shif
Like, how... who needs Ien gaiions of lube?
WhaI fho holl? Buf IhaI's whaf Ihey used for
Iurtlo snoI eVidenIly
So Ihey would blasf and waIer
and iI would sfing
Yeah iI was nufs
You couldn'f do if...
They would sue you
You couldn'I shoof a movie like fhaI now
This is La Rocholle in Franco
AI fhe safwe Iifwe, SIoven Spieiborg was Ihefo
and he made Ihe lnüana Zones, Ihe firsI part
and he asked woifgang Pofersen
''Can you lend your submarino?''
''i neod iI for some shofs'' and
you see Ihe boaI of Das eoof
in lnüana ?ones one
aiarm rings, dramafic fwusic
fooIsIeps and croaking
Ali righI
we'fo going Io chock fho poriscope
for sorious acIiViIy
- Where aFe we?
Deop in Ihe ocean
Vory faf undor Ihe ocean surfaco
HveUbody ducki laughfer
I was aiways a liIIlo confused because
I knew Ihaf Ihey'd 5lfwed Ihe sIreof scone in Vancouver
buI i fomefwbored being hefo when ho camo ouI ofIhe booksIoro
and if's becauso if was)usf on Ihis lifIlo sfreeI
Thero wasn'I a ioI of rehoarsal
Wolfgang wouid como oVor and he wouid say
''Okay here's whaf's going fo happen...''
''Iurn and run''
l refwember almosI geIIing hif by one ofIhe crano ffucks
if had Ihe camora on Ihe Iop offhe crane
and if was fhe Luck Dragon cofwing down fho aliey affor us
Here's fho infamous alley where l goI Io do my
firsI sfunI doubie wofk one
One ofIhe kids couldn'I make iI
fho cafwera was up on a big crane
and chased us down Ihe alley
and I had Io diVo info fhe big pile of garbage nexI Io Ihe dumpsfer
Do l wanI Io recroafe if?
i don'I know if I wanf Io go)ump info Ihe Ihing buI
Be like... ''Ahhhh''
''Falkofi Oh fwy Godi''
iaughing
I afw reaiiy proud Io haVe boen a part offhaf
If is a legacy of a movie
iI did pigeon holo me inIo fhaf bully fole
All Ihe way fhrough Sfepöen KnC's lT
Thore's been many decades bofweon HeverHnünq SfoH
and now so peopie aren'I really
connocfing fho doIs wifh IhaI
They mighf seo an episode of rasö of Dirr Genfly
and say ''hey, wero you in Ihis?''
''Oh yoah, yeah fhaI was me'' ''Roaiiyi?''
''Oh I didn'I knowi''
There's a part in Ihe Iilfw as well whero
woifgang and fhe pfoducor have a
camoo aI fho beginning of fhe film
They geI knocked info by fhe group of boys
sIreof sounds, milk boIIlo smashos
''Oh shifi ThaI's Ihe direcIof, l'm fired''
Camo back, ho was smiiing
i'm like ''l'm so sorryi I'fw sorryi''
''No, no, no, if's all good. If was porfecI''
He was sofweone Ihaf l lookod up fo and I
comparo oIher difocfors
and ofhor people in Ihe indusIry Io hifw
bocauso he was jusf so accofwmodaIing
so nico, so friendiy, and so cofwmunicaIive
Wolfgang PeIorson is a cinefwaIic genius
He bocafwe Iamous wiIh a 5ifw calied Tfte Conse0uence
One offhe veH fifsI films made abouf homosexuaiify
Wolfgang is Ihis incredible
cofwbinaIion of, on fhe one side boing
super, super sensifive,
And aI fhe safwe Iifwe he fwanages Io
sfem Ihese huge fwovies
You have Io have a certain sfeoliness Io you
He's a really
spociai, fabulous direcIof
For fwe, Wolfgang sIartod Ihe scone
wifh a foaiiy iong conversaIion
and he bonI down, he like
gof Io my eye level
and jusf falked Io fwe
and his Voice was reaiiy calm
Ho )usI sef up Ihe worid
- Do people sf come up fo you now anü asr you whaf
- easfian nameü föe Cöilüike Smpress? - Yes, aii Ihe fifwe
and iI's a fair guesfion becauso
Wolfgang inIenIionally loft iI muffled
''Moonchiidi''
Ho wanIed
fho audience fo insert Ihemseives info Ihe oxperience
and l Ihink his hope was Ihaf whafeVef
nafwe feels signi5canf Io you, fhaf
sofwehow you would hear fhaI in fho fhunder
i was fhore fhe day IhaI he filmed fhaf
and he did Ihaf Ihing where ho like bends down and
Ialks Io you for a while
''Whaf's he saying?'' iaughing
and i heard.. l overheard
He said ''you know, fhis is Ihe mofwenI whore you're
going fo caii ouf Io her, and in Ihe scripI if says 'Moonchiid'
buI you can really cali ouf any name you wanf
because we're going fo cover iI wifh rain
and wifh Ihunder and wifh iighIning and
whaf wouid you namo hor?''
He fook if roaiiy soriously and ho wenI
fo Ihe cofnef and he saI down for a while
and he liko furrowed his brow and
I could soe his moufh moVing
Ho was liko going Ihrough aii fhe namos he was Ihinking oI and
he camo back and ho's liko
''l fhink if's going fo be Moonchild'' laughs
So if's foaily swoef
you know, he wenf Ihrough Ihis gianf oxpiorafion
and Ihen he jusf... he came back
Io Ihe Ihing IhaI was Ihefo
l don'f Ihink peoplo did fhe fhing fhaf Wolfgang
wanfed Ihefw Io do
Theyjusf wanfed fo figure ouf whaI he said
The firsI sceno whore Basfian is fhore wifh his dad,
Ihe firsf line fhaf BasIian speaks is
''I had a droafw abouf fwofw again''
l had anofher dream, dad
abouf fwom
ThaI ifwmediaIeiy soIs fho scene
By fho way when he geIs up
he spends a mofwenI
looking aI fho phofo of his mom
and i fhink I fwissed fhaI as a kid
Righf away we know whaI's happening
Wo airoady know fhere's a loss in BasIian's iife
and we ifwmodiaIely empaIhise
and sympafhise wifh him
lI's inferesfing fhaf ho skipped ouI on a mafh Iesf
which is logical
fo oscape fo fhis imaginaH world
l Ihink IhaI is so poignanI
when you'fo going Ihrough grieI of loss
Bafref was sensifive
and more inIroverted
and like fo play wiIh his acIion figures
buI i really likod him
Ho was jusf a really sweof kid
We wefo fho only kids
fof a whole sumfwef in Gormany
and l Ihink Noah probably hadn'f seen anofher
kid in years of somofhing
And fhen i was )usI really annoying
and kepI on asking fho fwo ofIhem
iffhey wanI fo rehearse again and Ihey wore like
"Wo've rehearsed enough''
''we've already done Ihe sceno Ihree fifwes wiIh you now
...we wanf Io piay'' laughs
So, you know, I'fw sure we wore ail
weifd in ouf own differenI ways buf
I Ihink wo were also foaily
sIarvod fo be wiIh oIher kids and
we liked oach ofhof
So we are af Deufsche KinefwaIhek
in Beflin
where Ihe original HeYerSnöing SfoW archives are
The producers giVo all Iheir producfion noIes and phoIos
after fho 5im finishos
lI's Vory oxcifing
My nafwe is Rainer RoIher
and I'm Ihe Artisfic Dirocfor oI Ihe
German KinefwaIhek Musoum for Film and Telovision
and we are siIfing righI here, now
in one of our fefwporaA exhibifions
and iI Ieils why we resIore films
and how wo do iI
They have nufwerous iIefaIions
of original scfipIs
Ooing fhrough you can seo
Ihe ones fhaI Herman wrofe inifialiy
wiIh characIefs like Will o' Ihe Wisp in iI
Our main goal is Io collocf
fo safeguard
and fo presonI
ouf German 5im herifago
Thero's a gianf spider in Ihaf one
Funnily enough
rlasft Gorüon and HeveFHnünC SfoH
boIh cuI ouI scenos of a gianI spidor
Maybe people should )usI sIop
wriIing scenes wifh gianI spidors in Ihem
We are aiso
Ihe mosI importanf archiVe
for 5im exiie
for all Ihe people who were
forced fo loave Germany
aäor Ihe Nazis fook power
and wo presenf Ihe hisIory of German Iolevision
and ifwe wouidn'I safeguard iI
fwosI of our Visual mefwoH
would have vanished
JusI look af all Iheso phofos
crow waIching rushes
Josf...
Horman...
To have coiiecIions liko fhose are invaiuabie
Ofiginai producfion book
bohind fhe scenos picIufos fhaf
i've neVor soen anrwhero
SIoryboard picIuros...
The HeverHnünq SfoH, iI's Iouching
iI's fwoving
Wo're von glad IhaI we'Vo goI fho
Befnd Eichinger archive Io safeguard
My nafwe is Wosley Cannon
i've boen coilecIing
in fhe movie prop world now for abouI 20 years
Such a...
wondorful Ihing eVon fhe
fhe sfweil, Ihe old old book smoll
Now
iI's amassed Io
almosf iike an addicIion
You have Io excuse Ihe roofw cuz
we're changing sofwe sIuff in here
Thaf's an ofiginai podiing from Töe Dark CHsfa
This is from Cose Hncounfers olföe Törü Kinü
- You remefwbor ktac anü kte? - Yes
ThaI's Ihe only one Ihaf's suwived
If was such a small Iype cofwmuniIy back Ihen
Thore was a forum fhaI was oniino
and iI was kind of an underground fype forum
and iI was where all Ihe indusIry people would go fo connecI
lI was Vory privaIe
if was )usI a plofhora of inIorfwafion
NoIhing was oxpensive back Ihen
You know, you could gof a Ffoddy glove for S2,500
Now, you know, if fwighI be S100,000
This is Edwafd Scissorhands' hands
SIill goI his fwechanics in fhom so his eyes blink
This room can be a liIfle overwhelfwing
lI Iook me pfobably
12 Io 15 years Io puf Ihese guys Iogofher
Originally Ihe book was on oBay
Af Ihe Iifwe Ihe guy wanfed an obscene amounf of money for if
Whon wo sfarted geIfing really serious falking
Ihe acfual nufwbers
one offhe sfipulafions was
Noah had always asked
fhaf if he over soid Ihe book
Io ploase eifhor inIroduce him fo Ihe new owner
or vice Vefsa
so he could aiways haVe a connecIion Io fhe book
Noah acIually qew ffom California hefo
and hung ouI wiIh fwe for a whiie
and ho broughf Ihe book wiIh hifw
when he handed if fo me
l couid smell Ihe anIigue
Thore was no doubI
abouI fhe book aI IhaI poinI
when l wonf Io pick him up ffom Ihe airport
bofore ho evon gof in Ihe Vohicie
he said ''do you wanf fo see iI''? and l said ''yeah''
So he showed if Io me bocauso
i'fw )usI liko
in Ihe back of my mind you're asking yourself
''Is Ihis foal?''
EVon Ihough if's jusI like iiferally
iI's jusI maferial, iI's jusI a book
we were bofh veH exciIod
lI was all surreal really
The book is already enough
and Ihen now you've goI
Noah handing if Io you
lI's almosI like King Arthuf
knighIing one of his Knighfs af fho Round Table
You know, iI's liko...
To fwe fhaf's whaI if folI like
lI gives fwe goosebumps even fo )usI Iaik abouI if now
As far as fho sfon inside
if is Tfte HeverHnüinq SfoH
You see whero fhoy're Ialking abouf Moonchiid and Basfian
lI's incredible
l'm sufprised oI ail fho fhings ffom Ihe fwovie
IhaI Ihis would be someIhing fhaI eVon survived
This book fo me is
more senIimenIai fhan anyIhing
To me iI is priceless
- Excuse fwe - Huh?
Would iI be all righf if l
join you fhis evening?
l remefwber seoing Falkor for fhe firsI Iimo
when I was waIching Töe HeYerSnüinq SfoW
and I was)usI liko "Oh my Godi"
I fhoughf if was roai
i feel like l need a puppef on fwy hand laughs
Hi, I'fw MafIy Ausfin
and i'm doing Ihe puppeI vefsion
of The HeveFHnünC SfoH
and l'm Falkof
- This is all your faulI - Ahhh
- You sfupid baf - A
This is a Falkor puppef
and whaI I do is l
Iake couch foam
and I sculpf if in fho insido
and Ihen I go oVor and l puI
fur all around if
- Afo you a Rockbifer? - Whaf? A RockbiIor?
My namo is Pyornkrachzark
and THAT you can only geI frofw Ihe book
Theso hands are made of packing foafw
I'fw going Io fH and do fho whole infewiew
wiIh a RockbiIef on my iap
You don'I Ihink we shouid? l don'f Ihink so eifhef
I don'I fhink I'm going Io add Ihe Swamp of Sadness
and also in our version of The HeverHnünq SfoH we have
a horse fhaI is going Io bo puppefeefod and Ialks
because iI was like fhaI in Ihe book
So iI'll be a ioI sadder
iffho horse liIorally is
in Ihe swamp
going down and jusI boing liko
''i )usI can'f do if anymore''
''I'fw so sorn'' bubbiing sounds
Don'f do drugs. They'fo bad
My fwosI prizod possession IhaI i haVe
is fhis book
You can also seo Ul De Rico's drawings
cuz he did fho sfonboards,
ho cfoafed fho AuHn
He also did fhe backgfounds
when I sIart painIing
i enfer in Ihe painIing
and fhe painIing is feiiing mo
whaf fo do
wiIh Tfte HeverHnüinq SfoW
l Ialked for days and nighfs
wiIh Michaol Hndo
He was veU, Vory pleasod ofwhaI I did
i had Io sign fho conffacf
because I fhoughf fho now dirocfor
undersIood whaI i wanfed wifh Ende
The day after l signed fho conIracI
Ihe new direcIor
wanfed exacfiy Ihe confrary
When Ihey showod Ihe 5lfw
in Munich for Ihe firsf Iime
Hnde didn'I cofwe
They never Ialked abouf
fho artisfic gualiIy ofIhe producfion
Thoy didn'I undefsIand anyIhing
becauso fho film is)usI Ihe firsI haif ofIhe sIory
Tho deop sonse ofIhe book
is Ihe mo parts
- One offhe fönqs fhafsfanüs ouf s föe lYoW Tower.
when I dosignod iI
l sfart doing somoIhing wifh fwy mind
and Ihen if's my soul
Ihaf has become Ihe masIor
Thaf is a loI of fwy pasf l liVod
SomeIimes I can spoak wiIh somebody
wiIh my... mind
lffhere is a snake bifing his Iail
fhaI moans fhe ''iife''... fhe ''Iifwe'' goos on
iI's Ihe HeverHnünC SfoH
Michael Ende said ''If's perfecI''
i fhink if's a nice 5ifw
buI I could have dono boIfer work
doing whaf Ende wanfed
Thoy roaiiy befrayed me in a way, iI was incfodible
lI somebody fwake a romake and ask me
maybo I could sIart again
i see fhings cofwpleIeiy differenI
The firsI posIorIor Töe HeYerSnüinq SfoW
has beon done by Ul De Rico
and he creaIod a beaufiful posIef
of a liffie boy sIanding
looking aI fhe IvoU Tower
lI was fof Ihe firsI release offhe movie in Germany
when we re-reloased if
we had fho fho artwork fhaI Renafo Casaro did
Tho direcfor of The HeverHnünC SfoH
know me veA woll and
I worked aiso on ''Enefwy Mine''
I did a couplo of fwoVios wifh him
so ho callod fwe for Töe HeYerSnüinq SfoW
On a movie posfer Ihe composifion ofIhe ifwage
has fo be Very balanced
You creafe af Ihe confre offhe posIef
Ihe fwosf importanf elomenfs
The simplor iI is, Ihe fworo effecfiVo if is
Look, Ihis is airbrush. Look
Is offecI...
If's fhis one. if's veA sfwaii
lI's Very small
l puI fhe coiour inside and
if's nice for magic sensaIion
lI exciIod fwe Io sfart a movie iike Ihis
in Ihe fanfasy genre
Bemeon Ihe fwusic and Ihe beaufy ofIhe moVie
l really feii in love and dedicafed mysolf deepiy
Io fho cfoafion oI Ihe posIor fof Ihe moVio
Thefo's a few reasons why Ihe '60s music
was greaf
Wo cafwe ouf offho laIo '?0s
a ven dark period
Thefo was angor in fhe music
Then fhis synIhesiser cafwe along
and Ihaf's all Ihe sIuff fwy band Ka)agoogoo wore
oxperimonfing wifh
Ka)agoogooj Too Shy ♪ Too shy, shy. Hush, hush, eyo fo oye ♪
HveHone knows infamously fhaf
Kajagoogoo fired fwe in a phone call
I had no choice buf Io go offon my own and
l was angU, so I was really driven
EMI Recofds
asked mo fo go Io
a fwassive evenf callod The Tokyo Music FesIiVal
wifh my firsf solo single
A song called Only ror rove
Lifwahl: Oniy For LoVej ♪ Only for love ♪
and while I was fhere
I fwef Oiorgio Mofoder
Abouf six weeks affor refurning Io London
i gof Ihe call fo fly fo Munich
i was exciIod, noI infimidafed
I have soen infewiews wiIh Giorgio
and one IhaI really fickied mo was
he said... iaughing
He used fo choose artisfs
dopending on Iheir image
l did Ihe fwusic for Töe HeYerSnüinq SfoW
Wo were iooking for a young
greaI, good looking singef
and l refwember Limahl
and if worked perfecIly because
he iooked Very innocenI, veH young
Giorgio Morodorwas already a logend
l fwean, oveHbody loves l ree rove - Donna Sumfwer
Donna Sufwmorj l Foei Lovej ♪ I feel ioVo ♪
l was a IefwpesIuous 22 year old
l fwean, l was up iaIo partying
l aimosf fwissed fhe flighI
buI when I gof fo Munich
if wasn'I aii plain sailing
The song's Vory high, if's veH demanding for me
l couldn'I really deliVor
Giorgio is... he's charming
and he used Io call mo Lim
''Hey Lifw, don'f worry''
WhaIover he did
Did fhoy puf sofweIhing my wine? i don'f know
AbouI 7, 5 o'ciock, yeah we naiied if
Lifwahl: Never Hnding SfoAj ♪ Turn around, look aI look af whaf see ♪
If's goI fhaI z Facfor
Ihaf oveH songwfiIor
eveA fwusic producer
eVery record cofwpany
is iooking for
Lifwahl: Never Hnding SfoAj ♪ in horface, Ihe mirror ofyour dreafws ♪
i neVef gef Iired ofIalking abouf iI
The song was 41 evehore
whaI a fhrill for
a boy from Wigan
♪ NeVorending SIoH ♪
l do know Ihaf mosI ofIhe soundffack was done by
Gorfwan guy... Klaus
[azz saxophone
Klaus Doldingor had dono beauIiIul music for Das aoof
and ho was a nafurai choice
for fhe music ofHeverHnünq SfoH
Wolfgang Pefersen askod fwe
I Ihoughf ''of coufso''
Good fwusic musI help you undersIand
Ihe sIory ofIhe 5lfw
From Ihe firsI mofwenI on I had veU good ideas
l could do whaI I wanfed fo do
''BasIian's Happy FlighI'' by Klaus DoldingoJ
- Whaf fheme are you mosfprouö of?
iI Iakes sofwe fifwe unfii if works
''MirrorgaIe" by Klaus Doidinger
For mo if was a greaf advenIufo
LaIef on Ihey wanIod fo
release Ihe filfw in Ihe Unifed SfaIos
which was differenI
Io Ihe Gorfwan vefsion offho 5im
iI's noI really a differenI moVio
The main difforence was Ihe fwusic
German releasej Orchosfralj ''lvory Towef Thomo'' by Doidinger
lnfernaIional reloasej SynIhj ''ivoH Tower Themo'' by Doidinger Morodeú
The moVie cafwe ouf in Germany
Giorgio Moroder
ho had seon Ihe fwovie and loved if
he iiked fho idea of doing
some addiIional fwusic
Thaf was fhon
for Ihe inIernafionai reiease offho movie
lnfernaIional reloasej ♪ Tufn around, iook aI whaI you see ♪
German releasej "Opening Thefwe'' by Klaus DoldingoJ
Thore afo noI many Iilms in film hisIory
which have boen changed
after fhoy were on fhe mafkof already
I was noI invifod fo
showing Ihe 5ifw and all IhaI
and Ihen when I saw if 5rsf fifwe
fifsI fimo, I said ''oooh, why noI?''
For fwe iI was okay
- So you öiünrf rnow föey weFe Conq fo re-verson your musc?
No. Nobody asked me
During proparaIion offho movie
WolIgang mof SfeVon Spiolberg
who was a gfoaf admirer of Das eoof
Ho suggesIod some ffifwmings hore and fhere
Dolefed scene frofw infernaIional reloasej grunIs
wood crashing
Uh shiI.
fwuIIoring under breaIh
i don'I know why l wofk in fhis piaco And Ihis schooi
fwuIIoring under breaIh
And he oven had
suggosfed a Iiny fhing Io be added
IhaI was nof shoI
Whon Gfwork was foiiowing fhe fracks
Spieiborg suggesfod
fhaI if would be boffer
if if would be a lasf fwinuIo roscuo
wolfgfowling and fwud slushing
infense music
Thaf was Spieiborg
Bernd admired and loved
SfeVon Spielberg so much
Bornd gave hifw Ihe AuUn
The real Auryn was goldplaIod wifh
real sfonos
l also had moVod Io L.A and
we had dinnef Ihere in Befnd's house
wifh Wolfgang
and Befnd said
''You know whaI? isn'f iI sffange
fhaf SfeVon never said 'Ihank you'?''
and fhon Wolfgang, boafwing
he said ''you know whaI?''
''He Ihinks IhaI I gave iI Io hifw'' laughing
wolfgang PeIersen
an afwazing direcIor
He said Io fwe
''Toeny weeny is weafing a Iop haI
He's a classy guy
You have Io acI like he is Vory BriIish''
l said ''okay''
So I did a a Brifish accenf and ho said fo me
''Oh we changed our mind...
and we wanI an Afwerican accenI''
So
...Ihaf's how fhoy dubbed my voice
Whaf was a line fhaf wo did over and oVef again?
''iffhoy can'I save us, who can?''
or somofhing like IhaI, righf? SomoIhing like Ihaf
After aii
ifIhe Efwpross can'I savo us
who could?
My roie was dubbing Teeny Weony
They wanfed my voice
and so i had fo adapf
my Voice Io fhaf chafacfer
l couldn'I copy whaI Deep Roy was doing
He had a dofinife accenf
and Ihey wouldn'I haVo wanIed fwe Io do fhaI
I had Io follow his rhyIhm
Doep Roy's voico NighI Hob, Ihis couid be sorious
Frank Lonart S Deep Roy RockbiIefi
Frank Lenart's Voice whaI you haVe fold us is aiso
happening whore I iive in fho wesI
l wasn'f Ihaf happy
lffhoy wanfed fo use fwy voico
I could have dono fho American acconf
buf yoI Wolfgang Pefersen
wanfed mo fo Ihe Brifish accenI
Whaf wo wanfed fo do
Whaf l wanfed fo do
A finy, infimafe
fairy-fale, enchanIing moVio
wolfgang, oI course
also wanfed fo impress
and fhis is sofwefhing Ihaf
Michael Ende didn'f wanf
Michael Ende did nof iike Wolfgang Pefersen
Ho felI
personaiiy befrayed by Wolfgang
He didn'I wanI fo haVo
a big Hollrwood fwonsfer
and of course Wolfgang's infenfions
wenI exacfly inIo fhaf direcIion
and of courso Falkor, showing up in fhis wofld
fwado Michael Ende fufious
He didn'I like Ihaf af all
He did insisf
Ihaf his name was left ouf offhe credifs
He did noI like Ihe sphinxos
fho sexuaiizaIion offhom
He oven ffied fo
sfop pfoducIion by suing Ihem
Michaol Hndo was Very wofried
fhaf ho would iook like a seliouf
wiIh his disciplos
Michael Ende was veA fwuch involved
in HeverHnüinq SfoH Part iI and Part lll
and Ihose afo real sell oufs
My roie in The HeveFHnüinq SfoH ll
was Ihe swimming coach
l was posf-dubbed also
l was Iorribly upsef af fhe fifwe
buf now l look back on if and I go ''oh okay''
High wind Iacfor, BasIian
I have bofh
fhe second and Ihe Ihird seguei
and l've never waIched fhem
Oh HeverSnüing SfoW ll?
Full disclosufo I'Ve nover seen if aii Ihe way fhrough
I'fw noI a fan
l fwean ifyou wanf Ihe honosf frufh, i Ihink iI's a bad film
Thoy had all Ihe money in fhe world and
l don'f know whaf Ihey did wifh iI
buf Ihey didn'f spend on making a fwovie
So bofore l became
BalIhazar BasIian
IhaI was a big deal
You don'f sIop inIo if and say
''i'fw going Io fop Jonafhan Bfandis of
...BarreI Oiiver''
You're nof going Io Iop Ihefw
i Ihink Ihero was a wiiiingness
fo allow space
for me)usf
Io be fwy version of BasIian
i was 14 when i fwado fhis film
Frofw my exporience iI was chaos
If was a disorganisod, craziness chaos
Nobody guife knew whaf Ihey wero doing
BuI if was fun fo fwako
Thore was a lof of greaI peopie, a lof of greaI casI
l'm 1 10D?D proud Io be part offhe legacy
ofHeYerSnünq SfoW ll
JusI because my personal opinion offhe 5ifw
is fwy porsonal opinion
doosn'I moan I don'I love fhe franchise
I do
l wish Ihe Ihird one honesfly was
more re0ecIiVe of
fhe groafness offho sfoA
My mofher did noI wanI fo sign fwe up for Ihe seguel
The Iilfw was a fwuch biggor projocf
Ihan she had inifiaiiy anficipafed
and by Ihe Iime we wore signing Ihe confracf
and fhoy were Ialking abouf seguels
she was like ''Woah, woah...''
''This is supposed Io bo
a small indopendenf 5ifw in Oerfwany
fhaI no ono would seo''
She folI foaily, really sIrongiy IhaI
Ihe enfertainfwenI indusfH
was sofwefhing IhaI could
roaiiy haffw a young child
giVen IhaI she had no invoivemenI in Ihe arts
she wouidn'I even really bo abie Io undersfand
whaf fhose pressuros were
So she said ''look, you know...
You geI Io do fhis ono fhing
and fhen wo're ouf
lfyou ever wanf fo go back
Ihere's fhis Ihing caiied your 16Ih birthday
and you'll be off running
and you'll make Ihe choices you wanI fo fwako aI IhaI poinI''
Tami nover foally sIoppod acIing
and IhaI's Ihe funny Ihing abouI af all which is
''Oh, sho walkod away from acIing''
waiked away from Hollrwood
Thoso are mo difforenf Ihings
So fonighI
fhefo was a screening of The HeverHnünq SfoH
in German
i spenI so fwuch fimo aI Ihe beor gardens
when I was Ien
and I couldn'f drink beer
so aii l had fo piay wiIh was fho coasIers
so I'fw really good aI iI
Cheering - ThaI's goodi
So fwany peopie over fho years
in Iheir leIIors Io hef
orjusI said ''when's your nexI movie?''
''Why did you walk away?" ''Why didn'I you give us more?''
we saw fhaf SpoIih cafwpaign wiIh Faikor
painIed on a building near our house
i hafdly fomefwbor Ihe Spofih comfwercial
I can'I belieVe aftef all fhose yoars
peopie afo sfiii iisfening Io Ihis song
l couid bareiy walk
if Iook Ihroe peoplo fo help me geI up
onIo fho Falkor
l wasn'f crazy abouI fho spoI
l IhoughI fhey should have kepI Ihe IafIoos on
and Ihaf's whaf fhoy wanfed
I would have done if diffefonfiy
we sIartod Ialking on IhaI walk
l said ''you know...
Obviously you've beon happy fo
kind of be under Ihe radar hore in New Yofk
Is iI Iime?
Wouid you be exciIed Io do if?
and are you willing Io fako Ihe risk fo cofwe back?''
and she said ''yes''
I wenf inIo dance
and Ihen when I came Io Now Yofk
l wenI fo a dance conservaIory
and I didn'I puI HeYerSnöing SfoW on fwy resufwe
Slowly my circlo of artisIs Ihaf i was working wifh
Iound ouI abouI iI and iI was sort of liko
''Oh Iun Iacf abouI Tamii''
and fhon l Iried fo Ihink abouf geIIing back inIo acIing
and l caiied various agenfs
and Ihey wore like ''meh''
Nofhing was moving
l sfarted doing Cofwic Cons
No idea whaf a Comic Con was
and iniIially l was a liIIle norvous
''No-one's going Io wanI fo see a 50-year-old Tafwi''
and l was iike ''weli, i'ii jusI go and seo whaf's going on''
As I kind of reiaxed inIo iI
l was realiy amazed af how many people
sfill love Töe HeYerSnöing SfoW
HeveFHnünC SfoH
Ono ofIhe greafesI films fhaI has
ever boen made in my opinion
lI's a bif beaI up
If's an oid renIai copy
Noah and Tami from HeYerSnöing SfoW being herei
You goI fo geI your fickeIs nowi
Gof fo fhe chopperi
I fomembor Ihe firsf day l saw Noah
Whon l gof Ihe part and fhoy
broughI mo fo Bavaria Sfudios
and I was supor oxcifed and nervous
fo fweeI who AIreyu was going Io be
l feli peoplo ''I gof a fishbowl wifh doiiar bilis''
''Ploase Iake one cuz l know you wenf fo fherapy''
My conIribuIion, fhank you
You're kind of sfanding fhore and you're like
''Do i feli him Ihaf l fancy hifw?''
i don'I know, you know like... iaughing
They made an Afroyu Pop Top
Because nop Top's lagging
and fhoy haven'f fwado fhoir own fucking Noah and... you know, so...
ThaI's preIIy hoI
Thaf's so cooi
MeeIing all Iheso peopie and
seeing whaf Ihe sIory means Io fhom
is veH moving for mo
l feel really gfaIeful fo be a part of if
l really do
Tho numbor one guesIion
''When aro you going fo do a filfw again?''
- ''WhaI are you doing now?'' - I'fw dancing
They're liko ''bofing''
and I always wanfed fo como back Io acIing
and i aiways wanIed fo como back fo fhe big screon
buf l always wanIod Io do iI
on fwy own Iorms
So my husband seI abouf wriIing a feaIuro film
Wenf ahead and made ktan & Wfcö
We'll make a fanIasy film
we'll make if in fho genre fhaI peopie
wanI Io soe fwe in
and if'll be an '50s Ihrowback
Rafher Ihan Ihe beaufiful princoss
boing Ihe fwain characIef
iI was Ihe wiIch
and she's fwiddle-aged
lI's a genfle Iilm
iI's a hopeful filfw
l goI Io acI wifh ChfisIophef Lloyd
and Shohfoh Aghdashloo
There's puppeIs fhaf were made by Ihe üifw Henson SIudio
The Voices Ihaf are going fo bfing fhese puppefs Io life
afo Jennifer Saunders
Bill Bailey
and fhon of course Soan AsIin
Our film is ffuly an indopendenI fiim
Wo did iI fhrough a pandemic
clawing ourway info exisIonce
fhrough
fwagic
ktan & Wfcö: Töe Dance Ol A Thousanü Sfeps
Noah
ho's had a ioI ofIrauma
from fhe business
as far as l'm aware
For fhaf guy fo be sfanding on his fwo feeI
and sfiii plugging away
and ombracing his pasI
I have nofhing buf respocf for Ihaf
if's hard being a child acIor
child sIar, whaIever you wanI fo cail if
You can fako a loI oI abuse from your peefs
I Iook a lof of abuse
You know, Free Wy, Ihe innuendos
fhe sexual innuendos offhaf alone
lI's nof a business for kids
Anybody who's wishing Io be famous
jusf waiI unIil you afo
iI's nof whaf you wanf
if's whaI you Ihink you wanI
Anybody who's been fafwous
since Ihey wore a child fo an adulI
I can assufo you fhaI fhoy're nof
in realify ifIhey're an adulI
They don'I liVo in realiIy
Thoy nover were... fhoy nover had fo
So anybody you could fhink ofwho
was a Iamous kid who's now a famous adulf
Good luck wiIh fhaI
You can'I be gfounded. If's impossible
i liforally don'f Ioei or don'I fhink
i'm over fafwous
Fucking Iamous pooplo are sIupid
All of if's sfupid
we'll be ouI and somebody's looking aI mo weird
and l'm like ''Whaf Ihe Iuck are you looking af?''
''whaI's up?''
and fhoy're iike ''Dudo, you're fucking famous''
There's no handbook for boing famous
so how do you prepare for Ihaf?
Nof bo a dick?
My friends couidn'f caro less buf
eVorybody olse, yeah...
Thoy eiIhef wefo foally nico
or Ihe opposiIe
You gof a liIIle noforiefy
i wonf Io Beveriy Hiiis High
Ihere was)usI all fhis hypo
EVory week i was in a fighI
maybe mo fimos a week
jusf Irofw people fucking wifh me
I Ihink inside you jusI haVe Io noI...
you're liko ''nah l'm noI going Io ever bo a piece of shif iike IhaI''
ThaI's jusI who I afw
and i fhink fhaf's goI Io really resonaIe in
who you afo or eise
i moan
How fwany succoss sfories do you foaily hoar?
I iike fhaI peopie do whafeVef Ihe
fuck fhey wanI fo do in Vogas
iaughing buI people go
''Oh my God was he realiy on Ihaf
corner in Vegas selling his pussy?"
Peoplo fucking do Ihaf
''The horso really died?''
sarcasIically Yeah
There's someIhing abouf Los Angoles fhafjusI
I fhink breeds for foxic... fox-i-ciIy...
Is Ihaf Ihe word righI?
I have a liffie coffon mouIh from
smoking all fhaI weod eariier
I was looking for a lozenge
buI you cuI me off so guickly i couldn'I find ono
Tning fo geI a iozongo here
Lef fwe gef one real guick
Jusf had all fhis goddafwn drugs I was frying Io
nof liko opon on fhe corner
On Ihe cornor l'm aii...
Well nof drugs, iI's...fwedicine
moIorbiko engines
l had a coupie ofIhose, Ihey're fun
moIorbiko engines
moforbike engines reVVing
SofA
Condoms and an edible
If l hadn'I found pof younger
and smoked liko i had
and poople wero iike ''Oh you're Ihrowing your life away...''
''You're sfwoking...''
No, l was fucking fixing fhe broken back IhaI
nobody could 5gure ouI of nobody could fix
'fiil )usI recenIly
Thaf's 25... 20 years of if, you know whaf l mean?
ThaI's a long fifwe
So pooplo don'I know how horribie
bad back pain is
Your back is fho cenfer of oveHIhing fhaf's you
You fako yourwhole body frofw an acIof
iI's sIressful
Buf l sIill goI fo oaf
Soid fwortgages fof a iiffle whiie
BuI whaI do you do, you know?
l fwean l had a iifIle melIdown for a liIfle biI
as anybody probabiy would
i Iook pain pills on and offfor 2ö fucking years
because I had Io
So as soon as fho back was fixed
I called my docIor and I go
''Gkay l need offfhese fucking Ihings''
I don'I wanI fo be sIupid and numb
Like, l wanI fo feei fwy fucking life
Like, IhaI's fwy... Ihaf's who I was aiways was
You know I always had fhis life
I wanfed fo liVo and
you know, when you're doped up and you'fo in pain
you ain'I iiving shif
The one Ihing IhaI saVod fwy life was sfwoking poI
l wouid have beon a )unkio, l wouid haVo beon dead
l would haVe nof boen abie Io gof off pain pilis
l Ioll peopie whaI Ihey had recomfwended i fako
''How did you even suwive?''
i don'f know
Didn'I a couple ofIifwes, iike you know whaI i moan?
liko if... if's boen a long )ournoy
So l had my dogs
i had Cash and Mary
Yoah, Cash liIerally saVed my iife
- Tellme whaf ktaH?ane anü Casft mean fo you?
They're my famiiy
l haIe fhaf you jusI did IhaI
Yeah, Ihey're my family
Never had anybody in fwy lifo
who jusf...
fhoy'li always loVe you
and all you have fo do is jusf show up for Ihefw
and love Ihefw back
You know, Ihero's noI somo spociai handbook for dogs
Thoy're jusI beIfer fhan fucking people, Ihey really afo
Yeah
l don'I know, abouI fwo years goes by
realiy slow whon you're in a lazy boy
and IhaI's all you can do
My dog saved my lifo
i had Io iearn how Io walk again
GoI him, and i couidn'I walk
and l was in a wheelchair and a walker
You know, I sfiii had Io work
l had no family really here
i hadn'I falkod Io my parenIs in 00...
you know, 25 years
fwy pafonfs are boIh dead
Yeah and i had Io gof him ouf oveH day
and walk him and goI hifw fo pee, and
fhaf's how i goI ouI and
fhaf's how i learned how Io walk again
and if was a Iucking rough road
Never left my side 14 years
JusI losI him Ihroe woeks ago
And I jusI losI my mofw lasI week
Dog was fwuch harder
Yeah
we celobrafed our ''100 Yoars Bavaria"
four yoafs ago
and wolfgang was our special guosf
we oven dedicafed SIago g
IhaI's Ihe sIage he shoI Snemy ktne
fo him
So l fhink we're Very pfoud of hifw
Ho will be refwembered as being
one offho mosf influenIial direcIors
in German cinoma
and l jusf hope IhaI peopie will neVorfofgef
Wolfgang PeIorsen for Ihe
incredible work Ihaf he's done
and for difocfing my favouriIo childhood movie of all Iifwe
Losing Wolfgang PeIorson and his filmmaking
is such a blow
Orowing up wifh
HeYerSnöing SfoW and
Ouföreak and A HeUecf Sform, l mean
Ihe way if was 5imed
Ihe impacI fhaI if has on you
If's a big ioss going forward nof Io haVe him
Yeah Ihere's beon sevefal parodios
ThaI's a sign fhaf if's a really sIrong Iilfw
There is a Robof Chicken parody
caiied The HeveFHnünC House Harfy
which is hiiarious
spank Say my nafwe Basfiani
spank Say my nafwei
spank Moonchildi
ramily Guy
PeIor goes on Fleek
lI's brief buI funny
GoI on fleek
''NevorHnding Sfon'' Thomo piays
Yayi
I gof a caii
GMFG
Thoy're using your song in Sfranqer ThnCs
♪ Tufn around iook aI whaI you see ♪
If's reaching a whoie new audience because
in Ihe sories
Ihey don'f acIually use my recording
IheyjusI do fhe song
buI oveHono's suddeniy gono ''whaf is IhaI song?''
♪ NoverEnding SIoH... Ahhh ♪
Throughouf Ihe whole offho sefios
Ihere's so many nods fo fhe '50s
wiIh fho music, Ihe fashion
You know Ihe '50s
The HeverHnünq SfoHand
ktonsferSpuaü and
Töe Goones
They were jusI fun movies
The ofiginaiify offhe fwovies back Ihen
l fhink fhose days
l hope fhey're nof gono buI
I Ihink Ihey fwighI be
The genoraIion Ioday doosn'f geI Io experienco
whaf wo goI fo oxperience
In Ihe '60s
fhoy paid aIIenIion Io
how kids grew up
Movie producers really capIured fhaf
and fhoy fwado movies abouI if
Kids had a lof of disposablo income
and sfudios roaiiy did caIef Io Ihem
''i wanI fo go soe a Gfomlin''
''i wanI fo go soe a kid IraVol back in fifwe''
buf Ihe chafacfers are whaf l Ihink
drew you Ihrough Ihoso sfories
I Ihink 5lfw in Ihe '50s has jusf
iasIod wiIh us
iI was af Ihe Iime when
home video was really hiffing us
They hiI us wiIh Ioys iike
markeIing Io children, fwerchandise...
i Ihink Ihaf's part offhe roason fhaf
we hold on fo so fwany ofIheso films is
fhefo's so many Ihings fhaI
give us momories and nosIalgia
NosIalgia will always be big
Peoplo harp back Io Ihaf Iifwe in fhoir lifo
befofo responsibilify
bofore dafo I say
some pain
we are adulIing now
fhore's a chiid liVing inside of all of us
fhaI wanfs Io cofwe ouf
and a ioI ofIifwes we suppress iI
Ihaf innoconce neods Io be pfosenI
l Ihink Ihe firsf HeveFHnünC SfoH
sIands Ihe IesI ofIifwe because
oI Ihe Ihefwes
The sfoU ifself is roaiiy, really
profound and deep
Michaei Hnde wenf Ihrough wofld war Ii
as a young boy
Ho felI a foeling of oveHIhing geIIing desIroyed
which he called Tho NoIhing
and if was born of a real fear
from lived experionce
ofwhen hope and lighf gefs dfained ouI ofyour world
Ifyou Ihink abouI if
fako a look aI whaf children do foday
and how Ihey spend mosf offheir fifwe
and so ali Ihe warnings
fhaf wore being giVon fo Basfian
abouI how liIIle we droafw anymore
foday Ihey'fo acIuaiiy coming frue
This is probably one offho biggesI
fears in life
and l Ihink iI was Ihe one IhaI scared me
in fho heart and fhe soul
lack oI sfories or imaginafion
or lifo, or cfoafiviIy
Life, if's deaIh, and iI has ffue ioss
While fhere's so much
hopo and imaginafion
and joy in Ihe Iilfw
Af ifs heart
fhofo's a veU foai foaf
offho world Iurning dark
lI was
obViousiy a pro)ecI
IhaI was desIined Io roceive
infernaIional affenfion
If was massive
on every level
I folI veA proud
if's a film
which has neVor been made before in Germany
If's a greaf fwovie
If's a classic fwovie
l wonI Io Ihe sIudio
of Miyazaki fo wafch
Sprifeü Away
and i said ''Oh, IhaI dfagoni''
''ThaI's Faikor''
and fhoy said ''yos''
l fhink iI's one ofIhe rare
moVies fhaI nover become oid
lI seI sfandards
lI's affecIed lofs of peopie's childhood
Thaf's why iI's ifwportanf
This movie was sofwefhing Ihaf
eveAbody couid relaIe Io
As a child l was Vory Iiny
l was picked on in school
and so BasIian and l had sfuff in common
righI ffom Ihe sIart
If even relaIes Ioday because
when l was in Ifan and l was in fho war
fhaI was fwy gefaway is moVies
I sIartod Ihe fan page
a coupie monfhs after
fwy fwofhor
and my broIher passed away
They wefo )usI Ihroe monIhs apart
whon fhey passed and
fhe gfiofwas crippling
i needed somofhing fo
occupy my fwind
Over fhe years if's
been like a fherapy for mo
in my heart
I'fw graIoful IhaI i had fhaf fwovie
lI's a fanfasy
buf iI's hoart
l fhink iI is
a movie abouI
growing up
and by fho way
if's noI a bad fwovie
Nof a bad movie aI all
lI's part of ouf childhood
If's sfiii gOf all Ihe olemenIs of
a faiA sIory now
Töe HeYerSnüinq SfoW wiii bo fomembored
as one offhe fwosf influenfiai
moVios of German 5ifw hisIory
aiso one ofIhe besf
chiidren's fwovies of all Iime
So many of us
as children ofIhe '60s are now aduifs
we're showing if Io oIher genefafions
oVor Ihe yoars and ifjusI
fomains a part of our lives
woifgang nofersen jusf has done
such a phenomenai job
in Ihe creaIion offhis film
iI's perfecI
lI's jusf sIood Ihe Iesf offifwe
because iI's liko a Yin and Yang
If's a well sfackod
iighI and dark sandwich iaughing
I'Vo nevef seen a moVie
resonafe wifh people
as doeply as The HeverHnünC SfoH
Period. Hvef.
If's exhausIing fof fwe
l go Io an appearance
and peopie are crying and hugging and
Like ''you changed my fucking life'' and feafs
Thaf's doep shif
lf iI hadn'I had rosonafed
so deeply wifh peopie
l wouldn'I be doing any ofIhis fucking bullshiI
If's a Irippy fhing whon you're like
you've beon in Ihe public eye and you've beon
i fwean, l wouidn'I say l'm fafwous buI i'd say,
i've been fafwous af Iimes
You appoarod in ffonf offhis cafwefa
and all of a sudden you had fhis giffod chaffwed...
Y'all I had a fucking rough ass... you know whaf l mean?
and l sfill choose Io bo a good person
And l was supposed Io do
a whoie lof of shiI, righf
Which is sIill fine, I'm sIili nof...
i ain'f done yef. I'fw noI dead
They've ffied, and you've hoard me
and fhey haVen'f done iI yeI
BuI you know whaI I moan, like
l haVo sofwe Iime Io make up Ior
So, if I gof Ihis show done
wiIh all Ihe shif l've dono in fwy iife
If l goI Ihe show dono and sofwebody kilied mo...
genfle fwusic
Thaf's prefIy good
genfle fwusic
...buf fhaf's anofher sIory
laughing - Thank you so mucö
hopeful fwusic
Ono word l wouid describe
whaf Tfte Heverenünq SfoH means Io me
is hopo
Hope for fho fhings Ihaf wo dreafw abouI
You're Ioo lazy
you're Ioo chubby
and you're Ioo Iaf
This is my dog Cassie
I adopIed her from a piaco called Waggy Taiis
Thoy're an incrediblo animal rescue cenfro
They)usf do amazing, amazing wofk
and fhoy fold mo sho's a
hurricane rescuo, Ihey Ihink
l could haVo goIfen like a
luck dragon dog
buf l acfually opIed for Gmork
iaughing
RighI?
clap
- Töose are synceü
Gh, yos no... kiss
Hi. If's okay
hopeful fwusic
Bernd wanIed Io fwake a big in Hollrwood
He ioVed comic books
he was fhe firsI person
fo opIion Ihe Iilfw fighfs
Io Ihe Mawel UniVorso
Whon he 5rsf fwef Sfan Loe
ho fhoughf if was iike fweofing God
He couldn'I geI iI offfhe ground
Nobody in Hollrwood wanIod Io make
a Marvel moVie
He was losing Ihe righIs fo Ihe ranfasfc FouF
and fho conffacf said
''lI you don'f fwake a fwovie by Ihis dafe...
you will lose Ihe righIs''
He hifod Roger Corman
had him make a movie fof a million dollars
preIending Ihaf was a real movie
I moan Ihere wore Marvel laers aii oVef Ihe sef
Marvel decidod Io bury iI in fhoir Vauif
I have Ihese noIos from SIan Lee Io Bernd liko
''When is iI going Io geI made?''
SIan Lee was realiy loveiy, he spoke af Bernd's funeral
They really loved each oIher
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