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- Söe's so öappyaöoufher
HeYersnöing SfoW CD

lI sounds jusf iike fhe moVie

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Thaf was Chrisfmas 1ggg

I always wanfed Io wafch
Töe HeYersnüinq SfoW because

5rsf of I had Ihe crush on AIreyu,
as all young kids did

You gof fwe in fhe ffame wifh
Ihis big moIherfuckor?

I would jusI go...

I'fw going Io puf iI liko hore
Whore you cufIing me off aI?

All righI, so whaI wo're going Io do
is you're gonna spafk iI

and you're gonna go
"Ooddamn man, Ihis shiI's good''

''where'd you gof if from?
The one on Modway?"

Thaf's fhe ono
Thoso mofhorfuckers...Big Tfoe

You know, whaIever.
We'il do sofwefhing liko fhaI

we'll hif iI and fhen we'll sfart

Cuz you goIIa go, iike
''Gh fhaf shiI's good''

For your mind and body, and spiriI
whaI up?

So ifwagine you're 12 and Ihey go

''You're gonna sIaf in fho now ''Thor''''

You fucking ffoak ouf, righI?

Anybody who's wishing Io be famous

)usI waif Iill you are

lI should have been fho movie hofse

buf Ihey had me on somo sfable hofso

and iI goI spooked

i had Io iearn how Io walk again

I fell people l goIIa 5shbowi
wifh dollar bills

please fake one cuz l know you
wenf fo fherapy

My confribuIion fhank you

Tho whole HeYerSnüing SfoW Ihing
is a weird biIIefsweeI

and if's perfecIly capIioned whon
Tafwi and I siI in a panol fogefhor

We're liko fhe Yin fo Ihe Yang

and sho's liko fho whiIo and
l'm Ihe dark

She has a cofwploIeiy opposiIe
sfoH of mino

l know Michaei Hnde didn'I like Ihe Iilfw

Ho felI personally beIrayed by wolfgang

Noah, he's had a lof offrauma
from Ihe business

The fwaking of The HeverHnüinC SfoH
was a real follef coasIor ride

a wild roiier coasfer rido

and if's so weifd fo see
fhe safwe experienco from

mo cofwpieIely diffefonf sides
ofIhe specIrufw, you know?

*Music*

Life After fho NeverHnding SfoA

*Music*

Afo you filming already?
- Yes

Ah, okay good

Töe HeYerSnüinq SfoW

The firsI Iime I learned abouI fhe noVol

was in a pub hore in Munich

Sofwebody came in selling

phoIocopies of noVels

and ono was a book callod
The HeverHnüinq SfoH

The HeverHnüinq SfoH really is a
poliIicai book

1g51 is fho year fhaf Ihe

Gorfwan alfernaIiVe fwovemenI
was founded

Michael Ende was fhe guru of
IhaI movemonI

FanIasiaiand is liko fho biuoprinf

for an alfernaIiVe sociefy

Töe HeYerSnüinq SfoW had a moaning
wifhin Gorman socieIy

Hore cofwes Bernd Eichingor
was who has a massive problom

wiIh aufhorify

who jusf couldn'f believe fhaI fhis guy
was Iaking hifwseif

sO incredibly seriously

when l look aI fho fighIs bofweon
Michael Hndo and Bernd

Ihey'fo foai culIufo wars

Befnd was born Ihe yoar
Wosf Gorfwany was Iounded

When he sIartod fwaking
movies in fhe Nazi Era,

for Gorfwan Cinefwa iI was a massive
problom because

all Ihe inferesfing, complox peopie had
ail imfwigrafed fo Hoiirwood

or Ihey'd been killed

German Cinoma was highly comfwerciai

and fhon Ihero was Ihe
Oerfwan Art House Cinefwa

werner Herzog, Edgar ReiIz...

buI fhoy didn'I reach an audience

and his aim was fo
bring Ihe mo IogeIher

Ho decided he was going Io buy a
sfako in Consfanfin Film

Ho borfowed a million Deufschmarks
which was a hugo afwounf of money

He was 2g

and said ''Okay if i wanf Io chango
Oefman cinefwa

I have Io bo a producer and
a disfribufor''

Tho 5rsI producfion as a producef
was Chrisfiane r

Much Io fho surpriso of eveAbody
iI was a big hif

Whon Bernd Iook over ConsfanIin Film

he said ''l can'f do fhis by fwyselt'
So he broughf in Herman

and Ihe mo becamo guiIe a feafw

Tho cofwpany released anoIher big
German movie Das aoof

Pooplo waIching Chrisfiane r wero
youngor Ihan 16

Das aoof Ihey wore oidor Ihan 15

Wouldn'f if be greaI fo do a movie

where we have Ihe audience combined?

and l remefwber fhaf novei l had
boughf in fho pub

So HelfwuI Diofi sIarted wriIing

He wanfs Io wriIe fhe screenplay buf

oniy under Ihe condifion fhaf ho
aiso can difocf fhaf

Since Chrisfiane r

Bernd and I, wo had boen flavour
ofIhe fwomenI in Ihe indusIA

and we wefo 00, veH cocky and

wo behavod iike IhaI

when we wanfed fo do
Töe HeYerSnüinq SfoW

wo cafwe Io Hollrwood and
eVory door was open

They aii iiked us,
Ihey likod fhe projecI

Ihey didn'I like Ihe screonplay

lI was nof really
Töe HeYerSnüinq SfoW

Bernd said ''you know, fhe guys like
your piIch offhe sfoU''

''i fhink you haVo fo do IhaI''

A greaI profagonisI, you know
whaI makes hifw go

buf ifwportanI fhaf ho goes

As an audience, you go wifh iI

EVon if iI's Iofally sufprising fo you

You can cuf down Ihe budgef

buI you cannof cuf down on
fho cofwplexiIy

ofIhe proIagonisf

wefo you smiling?

I was all, iike usual, ali scowling

l hafe smiling

EVorybody loves my sfwile.
i Iucking haIo sfwiling

lI's Ihe Iunniosf shiI

''Youf smiie is fhe besI fhing of you''

''Why don'I you smiie?''
weii, leI mo fhink...

l goI my SAG cafd in 1g74

i'm bofn in '71

i've worked fwy whole liIo

Frofw bofweon fouf and beyond i
romombor preIfy fwuch everyhing

aartlesfaF, I jusI losI my baby IeeIh
- Ahhh

i did iike

I Ihink iI was Ihe veA Iirsf
Magic MounIain comfwerciai

I know if was fho 5rsI HoI nockeIs

♪ Hof Pockofs ♪
- Barbecue

Tho Sfar Wars cofwmorcial i fhink
IhaI you'fo falking abouI

Tough bafIlo aIIic, Cofwmandor?

Shavaf Ross,
he was on DiNrenf SfFores

l wouldn'I aiways eaI fhis much

He was a lifIlo biack kid
wifh fwe in if

Good hunfing sifi

I goI GaIorade's... Popsi's...

I musf have dono six or seven
Popsi comfwefcials

in a couple yoafs

l could chug an7hing

An7hing you could guzzie
fhoy hired me for

''Billie Jean'' by Michael Jackson*

- risa *üirecfor: How was if worring wifh
ktichaelZacrson?

If was... iI was crazy

Thaf's...IhaI's boing famous. wow

Michael Jackson, Pepsi New OeneraIionj
♪ You're Ihe Pepsi Gonerafion ♪

You kind of have Io bo a jack oI all
frados being an acIof

I didn'I piay soccor buf

i goI a comfwercial and fhey're liko

''Oh, you know how Io do
Ihaf Pelo kick?''

I don'I know how Io do if,
buI I do if

An acfiYe cftilüoses luüs in mineras

Gaforaöe föirsf guencheFöeps
puf föem öacr lasf

Thaf's how if was

Ho was supposed fo pick fwe
up af gj00

AI g:00 l cailed him I go

''I know you're high and l know
you fofgof fwe''

l said ''will you pleaso call fwe?''

So iike five minuIes laIef he goes

''Dude l jusf woke up''

l go ''how Ihe fuck did i know Ihaf?''

I goI fo Iake an Uber fo Ihe airport

He was all...
Look ho's all... fwocking

BuI IhaI's when you...

Thaf's when sofwebody's
Iamily when you'fo like...

or more Ihan fafwily when you're like

You've gof Io fun Io fho airport in
an Ubor and miss your piane

and you'ro iike ''I don'I give a fuck''

I ioVe fhe guy so whaIover

Fucking asshoie

I have always been a book nerd

So l Iofally undersIood

whaI Ihis boy was going Ihrough

Afreyu is an alfer ego of Basfian

I fomefwbor ViVidly when l
wroIe fhaf down

l could noI wfiIo as fasI as l was

Ihinking ofIhe siIuaIions

The idenIificaIion wifh

somebody in anofhof realiIy

Thaf was an importanf poinI for me

AI Ihe samo fime

wolfgang PoIersen had a
huge success wiIh Das aoof

we sonI Ihe screonplay,

beafwing he said
''ThaI's a movie l wanI Io do''

As a difocfor, you need Io have
a huge ego

Wolfgang and Bernd, huge egos

i moan hugo

And of course when fho
nominafion came in

wolfgang's ogo became even bigger

And fhe nomineos are
wolfgang PoIersen in Das aoof

applause

On a seI, fho word offho dirocfor
is fho word of God

ThaI made iI more diOculI fo
deal wifh him

If ho would have receiVod no
nominafion af all

boliove me Ihe moVie would
have lookod differonIly

AlIhough he was noI involVod in fhe
screenpiay af all

Thore's nof one line from woifgang

If's ffom me and a Hollrwood wrifer

who was working undor Ihe
psoudonym of 'woifgang Pefersen'

i'Ve made a career ouI oI
working wiIh child acIofs

Nof all direcIors know how Io
falk Io childfon

NoI aii children know how fo
lisIon Io direcfors

Wolfgang had fhe abiliIy fo undefsIand

a chiidliko monfaliIy

There was a greaI chomisIU bofweon
hifw and Noah

i also recognised fhaI he had
a greaI chefwisfH wifh

ono ofIhe mosI beaufiful young
wofwan I have

eVef had fhe pieasufo ofwofking wiIh

which was Tho Hmpress

When she camo on fho seI

eveAbody sIoppod

She was Audrey Hepburn boauIiful

She was an old soul

She was a seif-pfoclaimed VogeIafian

Nobody olse in fho fafwily was

Tho performance IhaI she gaVo

she jusf cafwe acfoss

like Basfian's fwofw

The performance was

Basfian's fwofw saying fo him

''If's going fo be okay''

''Why don'I you do whaI you dfoam,
Basfian?"

iI was really veH moving

''Basfian, please''

desIrucIion

''Save usi''

And l fhink woifgang has Io be giVon

a fremondous amounI of crediI

fof allowing her Io do whaI she did

because she was fairly new
in Ihe profession

This was a veH sensifive characfer
and a Vory sonsiIiVo fole and

She naiied if

- eofö olfhose cameras are Funnnqr
eYeryöing loors lovey

- Happness?
- Yes

- roors supeF

l gfow up in lran.
My pafonfs wefo archaoologisIs

ln '7g l was six

and we wenI Io lsraol for a yoar

and fhon wo wenI fo England
for a year

we came Io Ihe SfaIes when
i was eighf

The casfing direcforwas caiied
Anna Gross

and she was friends wifh my
acIing Ieachef

and she was like

''oh I'fw in Iown Io casI fhis film,
do you wanf fo haVo iunch?''

So sho came Io fhe acIing
ciass I was in

and she happened Io bo fen minufes
early for fhoir lunch dafo

and saw Ihe Iaii end offho ciass
and was liko

''Oh do you wanf Io come and
audiIion Ior Ihis?''

l was consIanfiy audiIioning for sfuff

and I came hofwe and l'fw like ''Mofw,
l wanI Io audifion for someIhing''

and if was affor one of fwy plays
where had jusf done niglef

and I showed up in full pig fwake-up
fo Ihe audiIion

and Anna Gross saw mo and
she was like

iaughing

''Whaf is on yourfacei?''

iaughing

So in fhe baIhfoom she Iried fo
help mo wipe iI aii off and

I did fhe audiIion

and fhen wo hoafd back
Irofw wolfgang

''JusI wanI Io soe hor again
wiIhouI pig mako-up

Would fhaf be an opIion?''
iaughing

So, we wenf Io L.A

and Ihen I fhink my parenIs were
sIarting Io gof norvous

cuz Ihey wore like ''Ihis is nof
iocal, whaf is happoning here?''

buI I was really, reaiiy gung-ho
so Ihey hufwoured me

and fhon Ihefo was anoIher
audifion in Gorfwany after fhaf

So i had Io move Io Ihe nover...
l had Io fwove fo The HeverHnünC SfoH

Proffy much

l had fo moVo fo Germany for
ovef a year

So usually you go in,
you see a casfing direcfor

fhon Ihey call you back and you see
maybe Ihe difocfor, producer

Maybe ono more and fhen you
gef Ihe job

So fhis fwusI haVe boen... we wefo
five, six inIo if already

and Ihey wefo like ''okay, you'ro hired''

and iI was wiIh HelfwuI

and fhon Ihey fired him

and fhoy sIarted all over again

Two years Io do fhis moVie

i audifionod Ior a year and iI
was fhaI, i mean

l couldn'I cuf fwy hair

i couldn'I do anyIhing

Movies don'f cofwe around like Ihaf
so in ' 60 fhaI was liko a

S20... S00 million fwoVio

Today Ihaf's iike a big Marvel moVio

So ifwagine you're 12 and Ihey go

''You'ro going Io sIar in Ihe new ''Thor''''

You fucking ffoak ouf, righI?

For sofwe reason Ihe whole fucking
famiiy had Io go fo Oerfwany

My dad, ho has a MasIors in TheaIre Art,
of he had

and he always wanfed fo be an acIof
and he was acIually really good

buI he had Polio when he was a kid

l jusf Ihink he nover goI pasI fhaI

i fhink maybe iI's Ihe failed succoss
becomes fhe kids bufden

l don'I know if if was manipulafion

cuz l don'f Ihink iI was like a
conscious fhing

buI nobody's working and your
kid soes Ihaf

So fhey go ''iI you don'f like if,
ifyou're nof happy

...you don'f have Io bo in Ihe business''

well, who olse is bringing fwoney in?

Thaf was whaf i knew

ThaI's all eveAbody's life
fovoives around

My parenIs)usf geared me
for fhaI, iike

I was acfiVo, i always dancod

and fhaf was sofwefhing
I loved fo do buI

if you had a loVe for someIhing
Ihey Iurnod iI info

a comfwodiIy

i am in fhe Old Sguare in Munich

l'm here bocause Ihis is fhe 5rsf fifwe

i'fw back in Munich sinco i was
fen years old

We are going fo go Io fho
Bavaria Sfudios

whore I'fw incredibly fortunafe I'm
going Io bo given

a privaIo four, I heaf, ofIhe sIudios

and l'm imagining IhaI maybe

I'll gef Io ride Faikor, Iinaiiy
laughing

Wo're sIanding in fronf of Sfago 4ö

lI's our mosf famous sfage hero

This is fho place whore
Töe HeYerSnüinq SfoW was shof

All Ihe big sofs Ihaf you can
soe in fhe moVie

wore pfoducod behind mo

l asked Tami ''haVo you eVor boen here
for fho lasI 40 yoars?''

and and she hasn'I so if's
hafd fo belieVo

and now she's back horo and we are
very pfoud having hor hefo

-Anü ffts is fhe rea rakor?
- If was made of iaIex, Ihen

and iaIex doesn'f lasf for 40 years

So wo fonew Falkor oveH
fhree monfhs

- HveH fhree fwonIhs?
- Yes

because eveAbody wanfs Io sif on if

He is noI anymore in fho sfudio fouf

because in fho sfudio Iour only
Ihreo or four

of a group can siI on him
- Yes

and eveAbody wanfs Io, and
so he's here

GoI if

A

Hollo
laughs

i'fw working here for 24 years now,

haif offhe iife of Faikor

There's one fhing wo kepI

ffom Ihe original, Ihose afo fho eyes

The eyes of Falkor afo sfiii

Ihe original eyos frOm 1g50

and we are Vory pfoud Io
haVe hifw hore

For fworo fhan 00 years iI was a part
offhe sfudio fouf

OIher films are made hero in Ihe
BaVaria FiifwsfadI

Somofimos we afo called

IhaI sofwebody wanfs Io sif on Faikor
or soe Faikor

Ono examplo is Joseph Gordon-Loviff

He said he bocafwe an acIof because

he saw Tfte HeveFHnüinC SfoH

Thaf was one offhe biggesf
mofwenIs of his lifo

This is finally

my fwomenI Io ride Falkor
laughs

l'm fwissing fho wind

so l have fo mako my own

laughs

Bye Faikor

Falkof's inspiraIion was from

Tessa, an Ifish seIIef

This is someIhing I sculpfed
when l was

molve yoars oid

Falkor, in German, is caiied Fuchur

So fhis was his nafwe in fho book

and fhon l asked fho producer
DieIor Goissler

l said ''Diefer, why did you Ihen
change Ihe nafwe - Falkor?''

and ho said ''one of our producfion
partners in Ihe US

she callod fwe

''we have somo problom wiIh fho
namo of dragon''

and i said ''whaI problom?
If's Fuchur, iI's a gfoaf name''

''say 'Fuchur' in Hngiish''

and fhon he said
''okay... we have Io chango if"

laughs

Thefo was one pieco of scuipIure

for Ihe Falkof you soe wiIh fho boys

and Ihen we did )usI Ihe middle
part offho body

double sizo

for fho seguence whoro you see

Ihe lady sIick fhe syringe in

cries

I did fho sculpIuro and
cfoafed fhe make-up

Ior Ihe mo gnofwes

Did Ihe baid cap on Sydney Bromloy

Suddenly had Ihe idoa

i puf Ihose liIfle rabbify foefh on her

Thoy were fun.
They really worked Vory well

They were veA ploased wifh
fhose fwake-ups

- l'm so nervous, you know
- Are you?

- asking all Ihese guesfions
- Oh sofAi laughs

As a cinefwaIographor

fwy fole is Io fell Ihe sIoH

oIfhe film in images

l camo from Das eoof which I shof

all handhold

Töe HeYerSnüinq SfoW was fanfasy

i was never Irainod in Ihis so I had

fo invenI a ioI ofIhings

wiIh aIfwosphere... smoke...
wiIh haze

Blue screon is anoIher fhing

Whaf is moVing picfures?

lI's fwovefwenI

I have Io giVo fho feoling

oI being part offhe scone

wowi

"Afreyu's FlighI'' by Klaus Doldingor

Abouf Ihe fwid '50s

working wifh biuo scroen

was exIrefweiy lifwiIed

We had Io shoof iI wiIh VisfaVision cafwera

Long lenses which have a narrow
fiold offocus

ThaI means

you noed a loI of iighf

Thaf fweans a lof of heaf

ln fho Swafwp of Sadness

oveHbody was wearing Iheso whife clofhes

if was so hoI and if was so humid

we had Ihis probloms wiIh Faikor

iI sfarted molIing

Tofal Pecall, or Sfarsöip TroopeFs
of Hoow ktan

They wore films wefo veU

demanding Iechnicaiiy

Töe HeYerSnüinq SfoW,
I could Iilm a real puppeI

Whaf i have Io do is fwake fhefw

roaiiy believable

as a living fanIasfic creaIuro

The SIonebiIer is huge

Ho biIos in Ihe sIono and fho
sfono breaks apart

fho part's falling down

if if's a puppef like fhis,
if falls down like guick

buf iI's huge, so you have Io
shooI iI high spoed

cofwes down in siow fwoIion

rocks faiiing and cfashing

Also fhe speaking

has fo be ''faaa''

So, of courso you shoof if high speed

so Ihaf iI geIs sfrofchod

and iI geIs fho hoavinoss

VeH fasIy

The same wiIh Morla,
exacfly fhe safwe

Forgof if

If's veH difficulf fo puI an
expression info Ihe Iace

of a fortoise

Really she jusf falks

and Ihen sho's gof Ihe sneeze, and

how are you going Io gof fho snoeze?

So I came up wiIh Ihe idoa

we had a fwechanisfw fhaf did
fhaf wifh fhe eyes

so... wheezing

and IhaI's whefo you geI
Ihe oxprossion

wheozing

and fhen, fwy mum scuipIod
a liIIle one

which was a hand puppef

forwhon you soe if coming
ouI info Ihe

Swamp of Sadness

croaky laughing

Poor fhing

You know if's... Ihis is...

You're iooking af 20 years of nogiecI

He's fwado oIfoafw rubbef

and Ihen inside fuii of aii sorts
of fwechanisfw

The eyes wefo fadio confroiled

They had lighfs in fhom

These afo original scaies

There's mo Iongues here

inside Ihis

Ono ofIhefw, l Ihink is an ofiginai

Giuseppo Tortora made Irefwendous

mechanism Ior Ihe IOngue,
if usod Io curl up

so when he's falking he can

acIually form his Voweis.
You remefwber if, no?

The fongue moVing around

AIreyui

Thefo were iifIlo fhings hore
which used fo

pull fho nose back so he could

make sniffing movemenIs

Yeah

- He was qonq fo öave wings?
- He... Laughing

You... i've beon found ouI

Yes, Ihe whoie concopf of how fo
make fho wings

l didn'f have conIidenco in iI,
and I kind of

pushed iI fo one side

Nobody guesIioned if and

so he cafwe ouf as fhis kind of

iizard liko characIef

l now know how Io make mechanical
wings for Falkor

if he rises again

Cofwe on somebody,
Iind us sofwe...

find us sofwe money and wo'll

fwake anoIher HeverSnüing SfoW

- Wöaf mpresseü you mosf aöouf
your exrerience on föe lilm?

For fwe if was fhe Rockbifer

Ah Ihe Rockbiferi

Yes, he's around

This is Ihe original isn'f iI?

So fhaf is Ihe copy

Ihaf camo ouI ofIhe originai fwould

fo IesI IhaI fhe mould was ciean

Ho usod Io sifjusI abouI IhaI high

When he was siIIing down

mo peopie operaIing Ihe fwouIh

fwo people operafing fhe eyes
wifh radio confrol

The smiles and fhings iike fhaI
were done wifh cabies

1 1 oporaIofs I boliove

and 02 operaIing Faikor

I know exacfly whaf l was going Io do

as soon as I saw Falkor

The oponing line is jusf...

iI Ieiis you whaf Faikor is

- Leaving...
- so soon?

i moan IhaI sefs Ihe Iono

i'fw going Io weep
laughing

Oh l )usf love Ihaf

Thaf and Ihe Hrincess eriüe

As you wish

Could you iook aI Ihe RockbiIef?

I knew exacfiy whaf Io do

Mmfw... l love Ihe Iasfe of granife
chewing

Mmfwm...mmmfw

Oh, could you do Gfwofk?

l said ''lef me soe iI''

l said ''yeah l couid do IhaI''
hiss

So The Nofhing grows sIronger

SIarted Io ieave... ''Oh.."

''would you mind doing
fho narfafor af Ihe ond?''

l said ''fine''

Basfian made many oIher wishes

and had many ofhef
amazing advenfures

so ho gof four good voicos for
fhe pfico oI one

and I ioVod iI

So when l go Io Ihe convenIions

and i'Vo done a lof of diffefonf characfers

Translormers, eVoryIhing

buI fhore's mo characIers fhaI fhoy
wanI fo know abouf

Falkor and SkeleIof

who does IhaI cabbago fhink ho is?

And I always iook for comedy,
l in)ecI cofwedy

SkeieIof had no laugh when
l firsI did iI

He was a Villain

and abouf Ihe socond or fhird episodo

i don'f know why I did if

I puf in Ihe evil iaughIoJ

evii iaughIef

Voice acIors haVo fo commif Iofally

For me, I bocofwe

Ihe characfer

l'm a Luck Dragon

Never heafd ffom Munich again
affor IhaI

would haVo boen nice Io

say ''why don'I you como on
ouf hefo?" you know?

There was an inqaIed IenI

and Ihey puf all fhe pfops, overyhing

for HeverHnüinq SfoW l in fho fenf

Thore was a veH heam snoWall

and fho fenf collapsed

lnsfead ofwaifing unIil fhe wafor dried

fhoy cieared if wiIh a buiidozef
and fwado an insurance ciaim

so for HeverSnöing SfoW ll

we had Io do if all again

Very, veU difficulf

Looking back

fhe ono fhing fhaf disappoinIs me

woifgang was nof awafo of how
fwuch effort

l puf inIo Ihaf filfw

fo have mo on his noxf

i'm Vory sad abouI fhaf

He didn'I know how hard l'd wofkod

waIching Wolfgang work wiIh Noah

I felI woifgang was a liIfle frusIraIod

He wasn'f gefIing whaf ho wanfed

Ho was a iiffie bif precious

i was ouI abouf mo monfhs befofo
wo sfarted shoofing

lI should have been fho movie horse

buI fhoy had fwe on sofwe

sfable hofso and ho goI spooked

and he fook off

and so I )usI gfabbod some hair

buI he was going fof Ihe gaIos

and he wenI Io jufwp Ihe gaIos

and qipped over and ianded
on fop of fwe

so l couidn'I feel fwy legs
for fhree days

So I fhoughf Ihaf was a wrap on me.
Period

So fhe feeling came back buI
I was in IracIion already

Like, you'fo in an apparafus
IhaI's pulling you

bofh direcIions

l was in fhaI alfwosI mo fwonIhs

24y - i slopf in if, iived in iI, like

IhaI fucking sucked

So l don'I Ihink Ihey even

wero roaiiy sure if I was going Io

mako fho movie or nof,
af Ihaf poinI

buf i fhink being pliabie,
and 12 and...

sIrong

fhaf probably kepI me frofw

jusf boing in a wheelchaif.
I mean, I know if did

I didn'I hear of any ofIhe in)ufios

i didn'I see Ihem 5rsfhand

lI's preIIy uncomfwon for acIors
Io geI injured

Wo're roaiiy Vory carefui abouI

limiIing fhe kinds oI acfiViIios fhaf fhey

participafe in

Buf oveH now and fhon

even in a rehearsal

sIuff happons

- WeFe you aware olHoaö qeffing
inureü on seffnq reöeaFsals?

l heard abouf Ihaf buf cannof fell
you anyIhing

I wenf fo ono premiore buI iI wasn'f

a promiore,
iI was liko a screoning

I had nofhing Io do wiIh an7hing

i wasn'I involVed in any ofIhe
afIerfwaIh, none ofIhe

fho accolado...nofhing

All ofIhaf, a year shooIing

If was only supposod fo be
a fhree monfh shooI

So you figure okay, I goI a conIracI
fof Ihfoe fwonIhs

buI if's Iurns inIo a year

you haVo fo fucking pay mo for fhaf

Why would if be any diffefonf?

My parenfs wore... eVorybody was
fucking pissod

EVerybody was screaming around, like

yeah, i was liko "l'm ouIIa hore''

I pofifioned Io bo efwancipafed

I fhink i was 14 when if sIartod
and if fook

iike almosf a year fo geI...

...l had fo go Io court, and I had
fo do all fhis shif

Money was already gone

i gof Io spond Ien bucks...

Thaf's funny when people go

whaf'd you geI from
The HeverHnünq SfoH?

i go ''Ien bucks in vidoo games''

- s scripfwrifing lor you one o
your man qoals af fhe momenf?

Oh yoah

- Has f faren oYeracfnq?

Gh if has, no if has, IhaI's
all I'm doing

So i haVe iike 1ö Spociai Forces
in fwy phone)usf

00 yoaf... 2ö year...
a guy... SecreI Sorvico

As soon as l sIarted Iaiking
Io fhose guys

real shif abouI fho show

l mean before Ihey oven read iI,
Ihey wore like

''This has Io gof done''

''You goIIa fwake iI''

''Somebody's gonna fH fo
kili you broIher''

So fhe iead

when he gofs

fhoy gof blown up in a
friendly 5re incidenI

which basically fweans
ono offheir own fuckefs

biew Ihefw up which happens
ali Ihe Iime

when shiI goes fucking crazy

iI's nobody's faulI like iI

one coordinafe goes fucking...

you goI a nine and a fouf

l'll geI numbers wrong aii Ihe Iifwe

i goI...l jusf had liko a
Kofoan guy call mo

l swear fo God,
l punched in fho wrong...

I swear Io God, dude

He's laughing his ass off, if's...

''Who 'dis?''

lrish Pub

Soe perfocf, Iufn around and

I can geI a Jameson and a Guinness

This gifl goes... laughing

She puf posI she goes

''whaI would you do Io fwe...

ifyou had me liko fhis
in your kiIchen?"

and she's nakod in Ihe kiIchen

and l said
''I'd have you do aii fwy dishes''

iaughing

I'fw nof going Io comfwenI on her
boobs Ihaf are ouI

Thaf's sfupid

Io... fo gef spankod

- s Veqasusfqoing fo senü you
crazyn föe enü?

- s föaf wöaf's gonna harpen?

l suspecf l mighf end up in Texas
af sofwe poinI

Texas is liko ono oI Ihe only
coupie of sIaIes loft

IhaI you'fo foaily fucking freo, and

I'd die for fho counfH in
a heartbeaI

Abso-fucking-lufely and if if
ever came Io Ihaf

I gof my rw show l'm frying Io
geI funded and

i have a guy who's 00 yeafs
Spociai Forces...

Cofwmander ho...

He's boen he's going Ihfough fho scfipf

He goes ''dude l Ihis is so goddafwn
good, l can'I eVon...

...fucking Iake iI''

Oh Ihaf's a good sfoA Ioo

see fhis is why l Ieii sIories

Look af Ihe cuIie...

ln my mind Sfudio 4

was a...

was iike a gianf IenI

which is cieariy, Iofally wrong
iaughing

l'm )usf shockod aI fho scalo of iI

Can you ifwagine filling Ihaf
whole Ihing wiIh fwud?

Like, iI's insano

and iI was wall fo wall

We'fo on fhe Iour hore af Ihe
Bavaria Sfudios

and Ihis is one offhe sIops

and we are wiIh Ihe Rockbifer

Byo iaughs

Me and Arnold

All Aboard

when we wore shoofing fhe
grain of sand scone

Wolfgang was picking which
pro5le fo use

He was iike
''Gh definifely your fighf profilo''

So now I have Ihis fhing whefo
l'm like

''Oh dofinifoly my righI pro5iei''
laughing

My IoeIh fell ouf,
bocauso i was fen

and iI was Ihe canines,
like Ihese feeIh

And Ihey wefo so bufwmed

because i had come and dono fho
audifion wifh all my IeeIh

and Ihen I came back and i
was missing Ihese IeeIh

and Ihey wore like
''well we can'f have...

an Empress wiIh iike...''
laughing

''Soi''

I had fo go info a donfisf

who was going fo make a denIufo fhaf

siipped over my Iop IeeIh

and iI was horriblo

if was a preIIy big chunk oI
plasIic in fwy fwouIh

So I cofwploIeiy lisped

Why do you look so sad?

Oh if was preffy funny

and Ihen I was so happy
when I didn'I

didn'I haVo fo wear if
for fhe second scene

iI was ioVoly

As many as you wanI

genIle piano fwusic

Sound sfages are amazing

iaughing

Kind of makos mo wanI fo dance

The palace was builf hore because
iI was a big seI

l was in Ihe lvory Towef

jusI when Noah goes up

Io say he'il saVe FanIasia

l was sIanding behind hifw wifh

a shoep skin rug

and bfonze mako-up

This scone

ifyou sIop Ihe fooIage and
really look closely

Ihere's an Ewok characIer in Ihefo

H.T Ihe ExIra-Torrosfrial's in fhore

if was jusI 10 days

jusI fo film Ihaf small socfion

Me and 5Vo oIher small people

Two of us played mushroofws,
fhe ofhef four

piayed Ihe grass peopie

Thaf's Brian

AI HeaIhfow beforo...

Aibort who was one offho original
Oompa Loofwpa's

Me and Brian on fho 0ighf

This was a 5ifw where Ihey didn'f
do so fwuch CGi

and fhefo was abouf

00 oxfras on fhore

We wefo ali differenI Iroops

and we wore aii fwoved around
liko hords of sheep

lI was very hoI

The sof was brighf whife

Mosos was doing a sceno

and iI was guife a close-up Io hifw

and he lookod aI fho direcfor,
and he said

''If's foo hoI for eVorybody''

''l wouid )usf do Ihese
cioso-ups oI me

lof eVeryone else go''

So wo ali had Ihe day off

i really fhoughf if was going Io
be a big, big film

l IhoughI Ihis could have been
my sfep inIo sfardofw

buf Ihen again i was only
a mushroom

You didn'I haVo, back Ihen,
any visual effecfs

You had special effocfs,
buI no Visual offecIs

You had Io do everyhing by hand

The Swafwp of Sadness

afIer a Iow days shoofing

naIure made iIs way

Thoy foaily folI hofwe liko fho
bugs and overyhing

Ihey woro in Ihe woods,
and in fho earth

and in Ihe swamp, and
everyhing Ihey broughI in

wifh Ions of ecological maferiai

if sIartod Io live

I ioVod going behind Ihe scones

l gof Io seo fho Swafwps of Sadness

lI was Ihe biggesI sfage of
Ihe Bavaria Sfudio

- Tare one enü hoarü cameras
one anö fwo

He usod all ofIhaI spaco

building Ihe floor, fho frees

fhon Ihefo was a painfed background

exIonding Ihaf landscape

When you'fo shoofing a
painfed backgfound

you have fo be careful fhaf if's
nof Ioo clear

and if's noI fo Ioo sharp in focus

Like in fhe Swamp oI Sadnoss

you shoof iI wifh loIs of smoke

so IhaI you could hido fho backgfound

genefal on-seI chaIIef

''Thome of Sadness'' by Doidinger Morodeú

Now fho scene wiIh fho horse.
Hfwmfw.

''Thome of Sadness'' by Doidinger Morodeú

Come on, Artax

''Thome of Sadness'' by Doidinger Morodeú

The hofso.
I can'I even falk abouf if

WhaI's Ihe maIIer?

whaI's wrong?

- Töere is some öeöinü föe scenes
foofaqe ollminq

-föe Swamp olSaüness,
anü flooks lre Wofqanq's cHnq...

He was

Artax, ploase...

You're ieIIing Ihe sadnoss of
Ihe swamps geI fo you

You haVo fo Iry, you have Io care...

Please boy, for fwe

You haVo fo cafo, you haVe fo fry...
You're my friend

- l love you
- Nowi

Artaxi You sIupid horsei

You'Vo goIfa moVo or you'il diei

Move ploase

i won'f give upi Don'I nuiIi

Artaxi nloasei

cfickefs

cfickefs

- ls if emofona loryou fo fm?
- Yeah

Tho horse was really going down fhefo

lI was nofjusf a Irick

if's nof a fighIor. A horse is a

fleeing anifwal

l Ihink we had mo or fhree horses

Ihe same coiour

and we had animal Irainors

They ffained aii fhreo ofIhefw

Finally Ihey found Ihe one

I fhink fhoy worked for weeks

unIil fhaI horse was Irainod in Ihe way

underwaIef IhaI)usf head looks ouI

There was sort of an olevaIof
in Ihe Iank

Wolfgang had been on fhe conIrol

He reaiiy confroiled fhe faIo
offhe horse

Bernd was sifIing preIIy close fo him

and Bernd loved horses

Bernd was Iruly

considefing fo sfop him

BuI he wanfed fo see...

You should feol fhaf if's foal

You cannof direcI a horso, you
cannoI feli hifw

''show a iiffle bif fwore feaf''

I have a suspicion

WolIgang wouldn'I have cared

fo really kill fho horse

You seo fho eyos coming ouI ofIhe...

l Ihink Ihe horse was aIraid

Ugh...

Maybe you wanI Io cuf fhaf

iaughing

Y'all had fo go Ihfough fhaI
for a minufe

Thaf's mo weeks

EVery day. Six days a week

12 Io 14 hours a day

Nof only are you cUing
and screaming

-Acfon
- Artaxi

You're sinking, como oni

Buf eVory Iime you shooI a sceno

You'vo goIIa gef showered

You've gofIa fo-dress

You goffa remako aii Ihe fucking
mud and spoIs

Ihe way fhoy were Io fwafch
Ihe sceno befofo

So)usf Ihink, I moan

00 showers, changing...

scfoaming, cning for mo weeks

Yoah, your Ihefapy ain'I shif

Liko fhaI's... l need fhorapy

Poof Noah

He was really cold and weI
for a really long Iime

His exporience offho film was
so much harder fhan mine

I had a really small part,
and l saf on a bed

iaughing So...

They had fho wonderfui idoa of giving

me a horse Ihaf l've goI Io Iake
back fo Caiifornia

Tho hero hofso

So l gave iI fo Ihe sfunI doubie

and he had a fanch in Gorfwany

and Ihey had Ihe horse Ior
like 00 yeafs

Did ho foaiiy dio?

l was confacIed by
Ihe producIion company

fo do sIunI wofk for AIreyu

He was really a Vory
shafp young fwan

He ioVod Ihe idoa Ihaf he had
a sfunf fwan

buf l will puI props ouf IhaI Noah

was guiIo physicaily adepI himseif

Thefo were a lof of scenes Ihaf

I fhink fhoy had expecIod fwe Io bo

inVolved in

and fhen we all kind of realisod

weii, he can do fhis

when we've losf Artax

sniffs
l need a fwomenI

Somo of Ihe scenos whore
you soe

feeI Iraipsing fhrough fho mud

g0X ofIhe Iifwe IhaI's fwe

fhen for Ihis giganfic flying
Luck Dragon

fo como in,
fho fiming of grabbing fwe

and puiiing me away

reguired a lof of rehearsal

The mosI cofwpiicaIed scene fhaI
I had fo do on

Töe HeYerSnüinq SfoW

was Ihe sceno where

Afreyu is being pulled

frofw being hofizonfal Io Vortical

The sef was on a gifwbal

so IhaI Ihe camoras and myseif

and all fhe debris wouid all be IilIed

Io a g0u posifion

They wanIed Ihe floor fo
come up liko fhaI

and fho hydraulic cyiindefs
wouid be Ihero

BuI whaI we did, wo puI bearings
on eifhef bif

so iI roIafed

so all we had Io do fhon was fo
pull if wiIh cables

and Io pull iI we jusf usod a
massive fofklift ffuck

sIoffw sounds

All ofIhe debris fhaf's 0ying was
relaIiVoly lighmeighI

Nof all of iI

The Iricky part was

solling Ihe perfoffwance

in such a way fhaf Ihe Iiming

looked as if The NoIhing

was goffing sfrongor as if progressed

Tho mofo closer Io verticai
Ihe sof bocafwe

fho mofo I had Io fime ouf
grabbing Ihe branch offho free

and Ihen uififwafely lefIing graviIy

puil my legs up offIhe ground

and aiiow myselffo hang fhore

Thaf was abouI a 20, 40ft drop
fo fhe sfage qoof

ifIhings didn'I go woll

They have fhe close-up and
Ihey haVo fho masfer

buf bocause if's a fwasIef

you had Io move all fho boxes
and fhe bullshiI...

so iI's iike a y0ft drop

Yoah you have a iiffle cablo

l'm 12, I iook down l go

''Fuck fhaf, gef Bobby''

BuI I did do Ihe close-ups,
you saw fho seI

Tho wholo seI has Io IilI

so you have Io have clear-ago

if was sIili Ihree sIories

- Cufl

-Anü cuf

So Bobby did Ihoso

and l Ihink he did one Iree ono,
blowing ouf offhe free

BuI i don'f fhink fhey used iI

l know fhey didn'I use iI

cuz Ihaf's my sfupid ass geIIing
blown ouf fho free

The goai of any good sIunf
performor is

Io bo hidden

lI was a veH seamiess ffansifion
frofw Ihe sIuff l did

Io fho sfuff ho did

sneoze

Then l didn'f know whaf
KY really was

buI Ihey had like Ion gallon
drufws oI Ihis shif

Like, how...
who needs Ien gaiions of lube?

WhaI fho holl?
Buf IhaI's whaf Ihey used for

Iurtlo snoI eVidenIly

So Ihey would blasf and waIer

and iI would sfing

Yeah iI was nufs

You couldn'f do if...

They would sue you

You couldn'I shoof a movie
like fhaI now

This is La Rocholle in Franco

AI fhe safwe Iifwe,
SIoven Spieiborg was Ihefo

and he made Ihe lnüana Zones,
Ihe firsI part

and he asked woifgang Pofersen

''Can you lend your submarino?''

''i neod iI for some shofs'' and

you see Ihe boaI of Das eoof

in lnüana ?ones one

aiarm rings, dramafic fwusic

fooIsIeps and croaking

Ali righI

we'fo going Io chock fho poriscope

for sorious acIiViIy

- Where aFe we?

Deop in Ihe ocean

Vory faf undor Ihe ocean surfaco

HveUbody ducki
laughfer

I was aiways a liIIlo confused
because

I knew Ihaf Ihey'd 5lfwed Ihe
sIreof scone in Vancouver

buI i fomefwbored being hefo when ho
camo ouI ofIhe booksIoro

and if's becauso if was)usf on
Ihis lifIlo sfreeI

Thero wasn'I a ioI of rehoarsal

Wolfgang wouid como oVor and
he wouid say

''Okay here's whaf's going fo happen...''

''Iurn and run''

l refwember almosI geIIing hif by
one ofIhe crano ffucks

if had Ihe camora on Ihe Iop
offhe crane

and if was fhe Luck Dragon cofwing
down fho aliey affor us

Here's fho infamous alley where
l goI Io do my

firsI sfunI doubie wofk one

One ofIhe kids couldn'I make iI

fho cafwera was up on a big crane

and chased us down Ihe alley

and I had Io diVo info fhe big
pile of garbage nexI Io Ihe dumpsfer

Do l wanI Io recroafe if?

i don'I know if I wanf Io go)ump
info Ihe Ihing buI

Be like... ''Ahhhh''

''Falkofi Oh fwy Godi''

iaughing

I afw reaiiy proud Io haVe boen a
part offhaf

If is a legacy of a movie

iI did pigeon holo me inIo fhaf
bully fole

All Ihe way fhrough Sfepöen KnC's lT

Thore's been many decades
bofweon HeverHnünq SfoH

and now so peopie aren'I really

connocfing fho doIs wifh IhaI

They mighf seo an episode of rasö
of Dirr Genfly

and say ''hey, wero you in Ihis?''

''Oh yoah, yeah fhaI was me''
''Roaiiyi?''

''Oh I didn'I knowi''

There's a part in Ihe Iilfw
as well whero

woifgang and fhe pfoducor have a

camoo aI fho beginning of
fhe film

They geI knocked info by fhe
group of boys

sIreof sounds, milk boIIlo smashos

''Oh shifi ThaI's Ihe direcIof,
l'm fired''

Camo back, ho was smiiing

i'm like ''l'm so sorryi I'fw sorryi''

''No, no, no, if's all good.
If was porfecI''

He was sofweone Ihaf l lookod
up fo and I

comparo oIher difocfors

and ofhor people in Ihe indusIry
Io hifw

bocauso he was jusf
so accofwmodaIing

so nico, so friendiy,
and so cofwmunicaIive

Wolfgang PeIorson is a cinefwaIic genius

He bocafwe Iamous wiIh a
5ifw calied Tfte Conse0uence

One offhe veH fifsI films made
abouf homosexuaiify

Wolfgang is Ihis incredible

cofwbinaIion of, on fhe one side boing

super, super sensifive,

And aI fhe safwe Iifwe he fwanages Io

sfem Ihese huge fwovies

You have Io have a certain
sfeoliness Io you

He's a really

spociai, fabulous direcIof

For fwe, Wolfgang sIartod Ihe scone

wifh a foaiiy iong conversaIion

and he bonI down, he like

gof Io my eye level

and jusf falked Io fwe

and his Voice was reaiiy calm

Ho )usI sef up Ihe worid

- Do people sf come up fo you
now anü asr you whaf

- easfian nameü föe Cöilüike Smpress?
- Yes, aii Ihe fifwe

and iI's a fair guesfion becauso

Wolfgang inIenIionally loft iI muffled

''Moonchiidi''

Ho wanIed

fho audience fo insert
Ihemseives info Ihe oxperience

and l Ihink his hope was Ihaf whafeVef

nafwe feels signi5canf Io you, fhaf

sofwehow you would hear fhaI
in fho fhunder

i was fhore fhe day IhaI he filmed fhaf

and he did Ihaf Ihing where ho
like bends down and

Ialks Io you for a while

''Whaf's he saying?''
iaughing

and i heard.. l overheard

He said ''you know,
fhis is Ihe mofwenI whore you're

going fo caii ouf Io her,
and in Ihe scripI if says 'Moonchiid'

buI you can really cali ouf
any name you wanf

because we're going fo cover
iI wifh rain

and wifh Ihunder and wifh
iighIning and

whaf wouid you namo hor?''

He fook if roaiiy soriously and ho wenI

fo Ihe cofnef and he
saI down for a while

and he liko furrowed his brow and

I could soe his moufh moVing

Ho was liko going Ihrough aii fhe
namos he was Ihinking oI and

he camo back and ho's liko

''l fhink if's going fo be Moonchild''
laughs

So if's foaily swoef

you know, he wenf Ihrough Ihis
gianf oxpiorafion

and Ihen he jusf...
he came back

Io Ihe Ihing IhaI was Ihefo

l don'f Ihink peoplo did fhe fhing
fhaf Wolfgang

wanfed Ihefw Io do

Theyjusf wanfed fo figure ouf
whaI he said

The firsI sceno whore Basfian
is fhore wifh his dad,

Ihe firsf line fhaf BasIian speaks is

''I had a droafw abouf fwofw again''

l had anofher dream, dad

abouf fwom

ThaI ifwmediaIeiy soIs fho scene

By fho way when he geIs up

he spends a mofwenI

looking aI fho phofo of his mom

and i fhink I fwissed fhaI as a kid

Righf away we know whaI's happening

Wo airoady know fhere's a loss
in BasIian's iife

and we ifwmodiaIely empaIhise

and sympafhise wifh him

lI's inferesfing fhaf ho skipped
ouI on a mafh Iesf

which is logical

fo oscape fo fhis imaginaH world

l Ihink IhaI is so poignanI

when you'fo going Ihrough
grieI of loss

Bafref was sensifive

and more inIroverted

and like fo play wiIh his
acIion figures

buI i really likod him

Ho was jusf a really sweof kid

We wefo fho only kids

fof a whole sumfwef in Gormany

and l Ihink Noah probably hadn'f
seen anofher

kid in years of somofhing

And fhen i was )usI really annoying

and kepI on asking fho fwo ofIhem

iffhey wanI fo rehearse again
and Ihey wore like

"Wo've rehearsed enough''

''we've already done Ihe sceno
Ihree fifwes wiIh you now

...we wanf Io piay''
laughs

So, you know, I'fw sure
we wore ail

weifd in ouf own differenI ways buf

I Ihink wo were also foaily

sIarvod fo be wiIh oIher kids and

we liked oach ofhof

So we are af Deufsche KinefwaIhek

in Beflin

where Ihe original
HeYerSnöing SfoW archives are

The producers giVo all Iheir
producfion noIes and phoIos

after fho 5im finishos

lI's Vory oxcifing

My nafwe is Rainer RoIher

and I'm Ihe Artisfic Dirocfor oI Ihe

German KinefwaIhek Musoum for
Film and Telovision

and we are siIfing righI here, now

in one of our fefwporaA exhibifions

and iI Ieils why we resIore films

and how wo do iI

They have nufwerous iIefaIions

of original scfipIs

Ooing fhrough you can seo

Ihe ones fhaI Herman wrofe inifialiy

wiIh characIefs like
Will o' Ihe Wisp in iI

Our main goal is Io collocf

fo safeguard

and fo presonI

ouf German 5im herifago

Thero's a gianf spider in Ihaf one

Funnily enough

rlasft Gorüon and HeveFHnünC SfoH

boIh cuI ouI scenos
of a gianI spidor

Maybe people should )usI sIop

wriIing scenes wifh gianI spidors
in Ihem

We are aiso

Ihe mosI importanf archiVe

for 5im exiie

for all Ihe people who were

forced fo loave Germany

aäor Ihe Nazis fook power

and wo presenf Ihe hisIory
of German Iolevision

and ifwe wouidn'I safeguard iI

fwosI of our Visual mefwoH

would have vanished

JusI look af all Iheso phofos

crow waIching rushes

Josf...

Horman...

To have coiiecIions liko
fhose are invaiuabie

Ofiginai producfion book

bohind fhe scenos picIufos fhaf

i've neVor soen anrwhero

SIoryboard picIuros...

The HeverHnünq SfoH,
iI's Iouching

iI's fwoving

Wo're von glad IhaI we'Vo goI fho

Befnd Eichinger archive Io safeguard

My nafwe is Wosley Cannon

i've boen coilecIing

in fhe movie prop world
now for abouI 20 years

Such a...

wondorful Ihing eVon fhe

fhe sfweil, Ihe old old book smoll

Now

iI's amassed Io

almosf iike an addicIion

You have Io excuse Ihe roofw cuz

we're changing sofwe sIuff in here

Thaf's an ofiginai podiing from
Töe Dark CHsfa

This is from
Cose Hncounfers olföe Törü Kinü

- You remefwbor ktac anü kte?
- Yes

ThaI's Ihe only one Ihaf's suwived

If was such a small Iype
cofwmuniIy back Ihen

Thore was a forum fhaI was oniino

and iI was kind of an
underground fype forum

and iI was where all Ihe indusIry
people would go fo connecI

lI was Vory privaIe

if was )usI a plofhora of inIorfwafion

NoIhing was oxpensive back Ihen

You know, you could gof a
Ffoddy glove for S2,500

Now, you know, if fwighI be S100,000

This is Edwafd Scissorhands' hands

SIill goI his fwechanics in fhom
so his eyes blink

This room can be a liIfle overwhelfwing

lI Iook me pfobably

12 Io 15 years Io puf Ihese
guys Iogofher

Originally Ihe book was on oBay

Af Ihe Iifwe Ihe guy wanfed an
obscene amounf of money for if

Whon wo sfarted geIfing really
serious falking

Ihe acfual nufwbers

one offhe sfipulafions was

Noah had always asked

fhaf if he over soid Ihe book

Io ploase eifhor inIroduce him
fo Ihe new owner

or vice Vefsa

so he could aiways haVe
a connecIion Io fhe book

Noah acIually qew ffom California hefo

and hung ouI wiIh fwe for a whiie

and ho broughf Ihe book wiIh hifw

when he handed if fo me

l couid smell Ihe anIigue

Thore was no doubI

abouI fhe book aI IhaI poinI

when l wonf Io pick him up
ffom Ihe airport

bofore ho evon gof
in Ihe Vohicie

he said ''do you wanf fo see iI''?
and l said ''yeah''

So he showed if Io me bocauso

i'fw )usI liko

in Ihe back of my mind
you're asking yourself

''Is Ihis foal?''

EVon Ihough if's jusI like iiferally

iI's jusI maferial, iI's jusI a book

we were bofh veH exciIod

lI was all surreal really

The book is already enough

and Ihen now you've goI

Noah handing if Io you

lI's almosI like King Arthuf

knighIing one of his
Knighfs af fho Round Table

You know, iI's liko...

To fwe fhaf's whaI if folI like

lI gives fwe goosebumps even fo
)usI Iaik abouI if now

As far as fho sfon inside

if is Tfte HeverHnüinq SfoH

You see whero fhoy're Ialking abouf
Moonchiid and Basfian

lI's incredible

l'm sufprised oI ail fho fhings
ffom Ihe fwovie

IhaI Ihis would be someIhing
fhaI eVon survived

This book fo me is

more senIimenIai fhan anyIhing

To me iI is priceless

- Excuse fwe
- Huh?

Would iI be all righf if l

join you fhis evening?

l remefwber seoing Falkor
for fhe firsI Iimo

when I was waIching
Töe HeYerSnüinq SfoW

and I was)usI liko "Oh my Godi"

I fhoughf if was roai

i feel like l need a puppef on fwy hand
laughs

Hi, I'fw MafIy Ausfin

and i'm doing Ihe puppeI vefsion

of The HeveFHnünC SfoH

and l'm Falkof

- This is all your faulI
- Ahhh

- You sfupid baf
- A

This is a Falkor puppef

and whaI I do is l

Iake couch foam

and I sculpf if in fho insido

and Ihen I go oVor and l puI

fur all around if

- Afo you a Rockbifer?
- Whaf? A RockbiIor?

My namo is Pyornkrachzark

and THAT you can only
geI frofw Ihe book

Theso hands are made of packing foafw

I'fw going Io fH and do fho
whole infewiew

wiIh a RockbiIef on my iap

You don'I Ihink we shouid?
l don'f Ihink so eifhef

I don'I fhink I'm going Io add
Ihe Swamp of Sadness

and also in our version of
The HeverHnünq SfoH we have

a horse fhaI is going Io bo
puppefeefod and Ialks

because iI was like fhaI in Ihe book

So iI'll be a ioI sadder

iffho horse liIorally is

in Ihe swamp

going down and jusI boing liko

''i )usI can'f do if anymore''

''I'fw so sorn''
bubbiing sounds

Don'f do drugs. They'fo bad

My fwosI prizod possession
IhaI i haVe

is fhis book

You can also seo
Ul De Rico's drawings

cuz he did fho sfonboards,

ho cfoafed fho AuHn

He also did fhe backgfounds

when I sIart painIing

i enfer in Ihe painIing

and fhe painIing is feiiing mo

whaf fo do

wiIh Tfte HeverHnüinq SfoW

l Ialked for days and nighfs

wiIh Michaol Hndo

He was veU, Vory pleasod
ofwhaI I did

i had Io sign fho conffacf

because I fhoughf fho now dirocfor

undersIood whaI i wanfed wifh Ende

The day after l signed fho conIracI

Ihe new direcIor

wanfed exacfiy Ihe confrary

When Ihey showod Ihe 5lfw

in Munich for Ihe firsf Iime

Hnde didn'I cofwe

They never Ialked abouf

fho artisfic gualiIy ofIhe producfion

Thoy didn'I undefsIand anyIhing

becauso fho film is)usI Ihe
firsI haif ofIhe sIory

Tho deop sonse ofIhe book

is Ihe mo parts

- One offhe fönqs fhafsfanüs ouf
s föe lYoW Tower.

when I dosignod iI

l sfart doing somoIhing wifh fwy mind

and Ihen if's my soul

Ihaf has become Ihe masIor

Thaf is a loI of fwy pasf l liVod

SomeIimes I can spoak wiIh somebody

wiIh my... mind

lffhere is a snake bifing his Iail

fhaI moans fhe ''iife''...
fhe ''Iifwe'' goos on

iI's Ihe HeverHnünC SfoH

Michael Ende said ''If's perfecI''

i fhink if's a nice 5ifw

buI I could have dono boIfer work

doing whaf Ende wanfed

Thoy roaiiy befrayed me in a way,
iI was incfodible

lI somebody fwake a romake
and ask me

maybo I could sIart again

i see fhings cofwpleIeiy differenI

The firsI posIorIor
Töe HeYerSnüinq SfoW

has beon done by Ul De Rico

and he creaIod a beaufiful posIef

of a liffie boy sIanding

looking aI fhe IvoU Tower

lI was fof Ihe firsI release offhe
movie in Germany

when we re-reloased if

we had fho fho artwork fhaI
Renafo Casaro did

Tho direcfor of The HeverHnünC SfoH

know me veA woll and

I worked aiso on ''Enefwy Mine''

I did a couplo of fwoVios wifh him

so ho callod fwe for
Töe HeYerSnüinq SfoW

On a movie posfer
Ihe composifion ofIhe ifwage

has fo be Very balanced

You creafe af Ihe confre offhe posIef

Ihe fwosf importanf elomenfs

The simplor iI is,
Ihe fworo effecfiVo if is

Look, Ihis is airbrush. Look

Is offecI...

If's fhis one. if's veA sfwaii

lI's Very small

l puI fhe coiour inside and

if's nice for magic sensaIion

lI exciIod fwe Io sfart a movie iike Ihis

in Ihe fanfasy genre

Bemeon Ihe fwusic and Ihe beaufy
ofIhe moVie

l really feii in love and dedicafed
mysolf deepiy

Io fho cfoafion oI Ihe posIor
fof Ihe moVio

Thefo's a few reasons why
Ihe '60s music

was greaf

Wo cafwe ouf offho laIo '?0s

a ven dark period

Thefo was angor in fhe music

Then fhis synIhesiser cafwe along

and Ihaf's all Ihe sIuff fwy band
Ka)agoogoo wore

oxperimonfing wifh

Ka)agoogooj Too Shy
♪ Too shy, shy. Hush, hush, eyo fo oye ♪

HveHone knows infamously fhaf

Kajagoogoo fired fwe
in a phone call

I had no choice buf Io go
offon my own and

l was angU, so I was really driven

EMI Recofds

asked mo fo go Io

a fwassive evenf callod
The Tokyo Music FesIiVal

wifh my firsf solo single

A song called Only ror rove

Lifwahl: Oniy For LoVej
♪ Only for love ♪

and while I was fhere

I fwef Oiorgio Mofoder

Abouf six weeks affor refurning
Io London

i gof Ihe call fo fly fo Munich

i was exciIod, noI infimidafed

I have soen infewiews wiIh Giorgio

and one IhaI really fickied mo was

he said... iaughing

He used fo choose artisfs

dopending on Iheir image

l did Ihe fwusic for
Töe HeYerSnüinq SfoW

Wo were iooking for a young

greaI, good looking singef

and l refwember Limahl

and if worked perfecIly because

he iooked Very innocenI,
veH young

Giorgio Morodorwas already a logend

l fwean, oveHbody loves
l ree rove - Donna Sumfwer

Donna Sufwmorj l Foei Lovej
♪ I feel ioVo ♪

l was a IefwpesIuous 22 year old

l fwean, l was up iaIo partying

l aimosf fwissed fhe flighI

buI when I gof fo Munich

if wasn'I aii plain sailing

The song's Vory high, if's veH
demanding for me

l couldn'I really deliVor

Giorgio is... he's charming

and he used Io call mo Lim

''Hey Lifw, don'f worry''

WhaIover he did

Did fhoy puf sofweIhing my wine?
i don'f know

AbouI 7, 5 o'ciock, yeah we naiied if

Lifwahl: Never Hnding SfoAj
♪ Turn around, look aI look af whaf see ♪

If's goI fhaI z Facfor

Ihaf oveH songwfiIor

eveA fwusic producer

eVery record cofwpany

is iooking for

Lifwahl: Never Hnding SfoAj
♪ in horface, Ihe mirror ofyour dreafws ♪

i neVef gef Iired ofIalking abouf iI

The song was 41 evehore

whaI a fhrill for

a boy from Wigan

♪ NeVorending SIoH ♪

l do know Ihaf mosI ofIhe
soundffack was done by

Gorfwan guy... Klaus

[azz saxophone

Klaus Doldingor had dono beauIiIul
music for Das aoof

and ho was a nafurai choice

for fhe music ofHeverHnünq SfoH

Wolfgang Pefersen askod fwe

I Ihoughf ''of coufso''

Good fwusic musI help
you undersIand

Ihe sIory ofIhe 5lfw

From Ihe firsI mofwenI on I had
veU good ideas

l could do whaI I wanfed fo do

''BasIian's Happy FlighI'' by Klaus DoldingoJ

- Whaf fheme are you mosfprouö of?

iI Iakes sofwe fifwe unfii if works

''MirrorgaIe" by Klaus Doidinger

For mo if was a greaf advenIufo

LaIef on Ihey wanIod fo

release Ihe filfw in Ihe Unifed SfaIos

which was differenI

Io Ihe Gorfwan vefsion offho 5im

iI's noI really a differenI moVio

The main difforence was Ihe fwusic

German releasej
Orchosfralj ''lvory Towef Thomo'' by Doidinger

lnfernaIional reloasej
SynIhj ''ivoH Tower Themo'' by Doidinger Morodeú

The moVie cafwe ouf in Germany

Giorgio Moroder

ho had seon Ihe fwovie and loved if

he iiked fho idea of doing

some addiIional fwusic

Thaf was fhon

for Ihe inIernafionai reiease
offho movie

lnfernaIional reloasej
♪ Tufn around, iook aI whaI you see ♪

German releasej
"Opening Thefwe'' by Klaus DoldingoJ

Thore afo noI many Iilms in
film hisIory

which have boen changed

after fhoy were on fhe
mafkof already

I was noI invifod fo

showing Ihe 5ifw and all IhaI

and Ihen when I saw if 5rsf fifwe

fifsI fimo,
I said ''oooh, why noI?''

For fwe iI was okay

- So you öiünrf rnow föey weFe Conq
fo re-verson your musc?

No. Nobody asked me

During proparaIion offho movie

WolIgang mof SfeVon Spiolberg

who was a gfoaf admirer of Das eoof

Ho suggesIod some ffifwmings
hore and fhere

Dolefed scene frofw infernaIional reloasej
grunIs

wood crashing

Uh shiI.

fwuIIoring under breaIh

i don'I know why l wofk in fhis piaco
And Ihis schooi

fwuIIoring under breaIh

And he oven had

suggosfed a Iiny fhing Io be added

IhaI was nof shoI

Whon Gfwork was foiiowing fhe fracks

Spieiborg suggesfod

fhaI if would be boffer

if if would be a lasf fwinuIo roscuo

wolfgfowling and fwud slushing

infense music

Thaf was Spieiborg

Bernd admired and loved

SfeVon Spielberg so much

Bornd gave hifw Ihe AuUn

The real Auryn was goldplaIod wifh

real sfonos

l also had moVod Io L.A and

we had dinnef Ihere in Befnd's house

wifh Wolfgang

and Befnd said

''You know whaI? isn'f iI sffange

fhaf SfeVon never said
'Ihank you'?''

and fhon Wolfgang, boafwing

he said ''you know whaI?''

''He Ihinks IhaI I gave iI Io hifw''
laughing

wolfgang PeIersen

an afwazing direcIor

He said Io fwe

''Toeny weeny is weafing a Iop haI

He's a classy guy

You have Io acI like he is Vory BriIish''

l said ''okay''

So I did a a Brifish accenf and
ho said fo me

''Oh we changed our mind...

and we wanI an Afwerican accenI''

So

...Ihaf's how fhoy dubbed my voice

Whaf was a line fhaf wo did
over and oVef again?

''iffhoy can'I save us, who can?''

or somofhing like IhaI, righf?
SomoIhing like Ihaf

After aii

ifIhe Efwpross can'I savo us

who could?

My roie was dubbing Teeny Weony

They wanfed my voice

and so i had fo adapf

my Voice Io fhaf chafacfer

l couldn'I copy whaI Deep Roy
was doing

He had a dofinife accenf

and Ihey wouldn'I haVo wanIed
fwe Io do fhaI

I had Io follow his rhyIhm

Doep Roy's voico
NighI Hob, Ihis couid be sorious

Frank Lonart S Deep Roy
RockbiIefi

Frank Lenart's Voice
whaI you haVe fold us is aiso

happening whore I iive in fho wesI

l wasn'f Ihaf happy

lffhoy wanfed fo use fwy voico

I could have dono fho American acconf

buf yoI Wolfgang Pefersen

wanfed mo fo Ihe Brifish accenI

Whaf wo wanfed fo do

Whaf l wanfed fo do

A finy, infimafe

fairy-fale, enchanIing moVio

wolfgang, oI course

also wanfed fo impress

and fhis is sofwefhing Ihaf

Michael Ende didn'f wanf

Michael Ende did nof iike
Wolfgang Pefersen

Ho felI

personaiiy befrayed by Wolfgang

He didn'I wanI fo haVo

a big Hollrwood fwonsfer

and of course Wolfgang's infenfions

wenI exacfly inIo fhaf direcIion

and of courso Falkor,
showing up in fhis wofld

fwado Michael Ende fufious

He didn'I like Ihaf af all

He did insisf

Ihaf his name was left ouf offhe credifs

He did noI like Ihe sphinxos

fho sexuaiizaIion offhom

He oven ffied fo

sfop pfoducIion by suing Ihem

Michaol Hndo was Very wofried

fhaf ho would iook like a seliouf

wiIh his disciplos

Michael Ende was veA fwuch involved

in HeverHnüinq SfoH
Part iI and Part lll

and Ihose afo real sell oufs

My roie in The HeveFHnüinq SfoH ll

was Ihe swimming coach

l was posf-dubbed also

l was Iorribly upsef af fhe fifwe

buf now l look back on if and
I go ''oh okay''

High wind Iacfor, BasIian

I have bofh

fhe second and Ihe Ihird seguei

and l've never waIched fhem

Oh HeverSnüing SfoW ll?

Full disclosufo I'Ve nover seen if
aii Ihe way fhrough

I'fw noI a fan

l fwean ifyou wanf Ihe honosf frufh,
i Ihink iI's a bad film

Thoy had all Ihe money in
fhe world and

l don'f know whaf Ihey did wifh iI

buf Ihey didn'f spend on
making a fwovie

So bofore l became

BalIhazar BasIian

IhaI was a big deal

You don'f sIop inIo if and say

''i'fw going Io fop Jonafhan Bfandis of

...BarreI Oiiver''

You're nof going Io Iop Ihefw

i Ihink Ihero was a wiiiingness

fo allow space

for me)usf

Io be fwy version of BasIian

i was 14 when i fwado fhis film

Frofw my exporience iI was chaos

If was a disorganisod, craziness chaos

Nobody guife knew whaf Ihey
wero doing

BuI if was fun fo fwako

Thore was a lof of greaI peopie,
a lof of greaI casI

l'm 1 10D?D proud Io be part offhe legacy

ofHeYerSnünq SfoW ll

JusI because my personal opinion
offhe 5ifw

is fwy porsonal opinion

doosn'I moan I don'I love
fhe franchise

I do

l wish Ihe Ihird one honesfly was

more re0ecIiVe of

fhe groafness offho sfoA

My mofher did noI wanI fo
sign fwe up for Ihe seguel

The Iilfw was a fwuch biggor projocf

Ihan she had inifiaiiy anficipafed

and by Ihe Iime we wore
signing Ihe confracf

and fhoy were Ialking abouf seguels

she was like ''Woah, woah...''

''This is supposed Io bo

a small indopendenf 5ifw
in Oerfwany

fhaI no ono would seo''

She folI foaily, really sIrongiy IhaI

Ihe enfertainfwenI indusfH

was sofwefhing IhaI could

roaiiy haffw a young child

giVen IhaI she had no invoivemenI
in Ihe arts

she wouidn'I even really bo
abie Io undersfand

whaf fhose pressuros were

So she said ''look, you know...

You geI Io do fhis ono fhing

and fhen wo're ouf

lfyou ever wanf fo go back

Ihere's fhis Ihing caiied your
16Ih birthday

and you'll be off running

and you'll make Ihe choices you
wanI fo fwako aI IhaI poinI''

Tami nover foally sIoppod acIing

and IhaI's Ihe funny Ihing
abouI af all which is

''Oh, sho walkod away from acIing''

waiked away from Hollrwood

Thoso are mo difforenf Ihings

So fonighI

fhefo was a screening of
The HeverHnünq SfoH

in German

i spenI so fwuch fimo aI Ihe
beor gardens

when I was Ien

and I couldn'f drink beer

so aii l had fo
piay wiIh was fho coasIers

so I'fw really good aI iI

Cheering
- ThaI's goodi

So fwany peopie over fho years

in Iheir leIIors Io hef

orjusI said
''when's your nexI movie?''

''Why did you walk away?"
''Why didn'I you give us more?''

we saw fhaf SpoIih cafwpaign
wiIh Faikor

painIed on a building near our house

i hafdly fomefwbor Ihe Spofih comfwercial

I can'I belieVe aftef all fhose yoars

peopie afo sfiii iisfening Io Ihis song

l couid bareiy walk

if Iook Ihroe peoplo fo help me geI up

onIo fho Falkor

l wasn'f crazy abouI fho spoI

l IhoughI fhey
should have kepI Ihe IafIoos on

and Ihaf's whaf fhoy wanfed

I would have done if diffefonfiy

we sIartod Ialking on IhaI walk

l said ''you know...

Obviously you've beon happy fo

kind of be under
Ihe radar hore in New Yofk

Is iI Iime?

Wouid you be exciIed Io do if?

and are you willing Io fako
Ihe risk fo cofwe back?''

and she said ''yes''

I wenf inIo dance

and Ihen when I came Io Now Yofk

l wenI fo a dance conservaIory

and I didn'I puI HeYerSnöing SfoW
on fwy resufwe

Slowly my circlo of artisIs
Ihaf i was working wifh

Iound ouI abouI iI
and iI was sort of liko

''Oh Iun Iacf abouI Tamii''

and fhon l Iried fo Ihink abouf
geIIing back inIo acIing

and l caiied various agenfs

and Ihey wore like ''meh''

Nofhing was moving

l sfarted doing Cofwic Cons

No idea whaf a Comic Con was

and iniIially l was a liIIle norvous

''No-one's going Io wanI fo see a
50-year-old Tafwi''

and l was iike ''weli, i'ii jusI go
and seo whaf's going on''

As I kind of reiaxed inIo iI

l was realiy amazed af how many people

sfill love Töe HeYerSnöing SfoW

HeveFHnünC SfoH

Ono ofIhe greafesI films fhaI has

ever boen made in my opinion

lI's a bif beaI up

If's an oid renIai copy

Noah and Tami from
HeYerSnöing SfoW being herei

You goI fo geI your fickeIs nowi

Gof fo fhe chopperi

I fomembor Ihe firsf day l saw Noah

Whon l gof Ihe part and fhoy

broughI mo fo Bavaria Sfudios

and I was supor oxcifed and nervous

fo fweeI who AIreyu was going Io be

l feli peoplo
''I gof a fishbowl wifh doiiar bilis''

''Ploase Iake one cuz l know you
wenf fo fherapy''

My conIribuIion, fhank you

You're kind of sfanding fhore
and you're like

''Do i feli him Ihaf l fancy hifw?''

i don'I know, you know like...
iaughing

They made an Afroyu Pop Top

Because nop Top's lagging

and fhoy haven'f fwado fhoir own
fucking Noah and... you know, so...

ThaI's preIIy hoI

Thaf's so cooi

MeeIing all Iheso peopie and

seeing whaf Ihe sIory means Io fhom

is veH moving for mo

l feel really gfaIeful fo be a part of if

l really do

Tho numbor one guesIion

''When aro you going fo do
a filfw again?''

- ''WhaI are you doing now?''
- I'fw dancing

They're liko ''bofing''

and I always wanfed fo como
back Io acIing

and i aiways wanIed
fo como back fo fhe big screon

buf l always wanIod Io do iI

on fwy own Iorms

So my husband seI abouf
wriIing a feaIuro film

Wenf ahead and made ktan & Wfcö

We'll make a fanIasy film

we'll make if in fho genre fhaI peopie

wanI Io soe fwe in

and if'll be an '50s Ihrowback

Rafher Ihan Ihe beaufiful princoss

boing Ihe fwain characIef

iI was Ihe wiIch

and she's fwiddle-aged

lI's a genfle Iilm

iI's a hopeful filfw

l goI Io acI wifh ChfisIophef Lloyd

and Shohfoh Aghdashloo

There's puppeIs fhaf were
made by Ihe üifw Henson SIudio

The Voices Ihaf are going fo
bfing fhese puppefs Io life

afo Jennifer Saunders

Bill Bailey

and fhon of course Soan AsIin

Our film is ffuly an indopendenI fiim

Wo did iI fhrough a pandemic

clawing ourway info exisIonce

fhrough

fwagic

ktan & Wfcö: Töe Dance Ol
A Thousanü Sfeps

Noah

ho's had a ioI ofIrauma

from fhe business

as far as l'm aware

For fhaf guy fo be sfanding
on his fwo feeI

and sfiii plugging away

and ombracing his pasI

I have nofhing buf respocf for Ihaf

if's hard being a child acIor

child sIar,
whaIever you wanI fo cail if

You can fako a loI oI abuse
from your peefs

I Iook a lof of abuse

You know, Free Wy, Ihe innuendos

fhe sexual innuendos offhaf alone

lI's nof a business for kids

Anybody who's wishing Io be famous

jusf waiI unIil you afo

iI's nof whaf you wanf

if's whaI you Ihink you wanI

Anybody who's been fafwous

since Ihey wore a child fo an adulI

I can assufo you fhaI fhoy're nof

in realify ifIhey're an adulI

They don'I liVo in realiIy

Thoy nover were...
fhoy nover had fo

So anybody you could fhink ofwho

was a Iamous kid
who's now a famous adulf

Good luck wiIh fhaI

You can'I be gfounded.
If's impossible

i liforally don'f Ioei or don'I fhink

i'm over fafwous

Fucking Iamous pooplo are sIupid

All of if's sfupid

we'll be ouI and somebody's
looking aI mo weird

and l'm like
''Whaf Ihe Iuck are you looking af?''

''whaI's up?''

and fhoy're iike
''Dudo, you're fucking famous''

There's no handbook for boing famous

so how do you prepare for Ihaf?

Nof bo a dick?

My friends couidn'f caro less buf

eVorybody olse, yeah...

Thoy eiIhef wefo foally nico

or Ihe opposiIe

You gof a liIIle noforiefy

i wonf Io Beveriy Hiiis High

Ihere was)usI all fhis hypo

EVory week i was in a fighI

maybe mo fimos a week

jusf Irofw people fucking wifh me

I Ihink inside you jusI haVe Io noI...

you're liko ''nah l'm noI going
Io ever bo a piece of shif iike IhaI''

ThaI's jusI who I afw

and i fhink fhaf's goI Io
really resonaIe in

who you afo or eise

i moan

How fwany succoss sfories do you
foaily hoar?

I iike fhaI peopie do whafeVef Ihe

fuck fhey wanI fo do in Vogas

iaughing
buI people go

''Oh my God was he realiy on Ihaf

corner in Vegas selling his pussy?"

Peoplo fucking do Ihaf

''The horso really died?''

sarcasIically Yeah

There's someIhing abouf Los Angoles
fhafjusI

I fhink breeds for foxic...
fox-i-ciIy...

Is Ihaf Ihe word righI?

I have a liffie coffon mouIh from

smoking all fhaI weod eariier

I was looking for a lozenge

buI you cuI me off so guickly
i couldn'I find ono

Tning fo geI a iozongo here

Lef fwe gef one real guick

Jusf had all fhis goddafwn drugs
I was frying Io

nof liko opon on fhe corner

On Ihe cornor l'm aii...

Well nof drugs, iI's...fwedicine

moIorbiko engines

l had a coupie ofIhose,
Ihey're fun

moIorbiko engines

moforbike engines reVVing

SofA

Condoms and an edible

If l hadn'I found pof younger

and smoked liko i had

and poople wero iike
''Oh you're Ihrowing your life away...''

''You're sfwoking...''

No, l was fucking fixing fhe
broken back IhaI

nobody could 5gure ouI of
nobody could fix

'fiil )usI recenIly

Thaf's 25... 20 years of if,
you know whaf l mean?

ThaI's a long fifwe

So pooplo don'I know how horribie

bad back pain is

Your back is fho cenfer of
oveHIhing fhaf's you

You fako yourwhole body frofw an acIof

iI's sIressful

Buf l sIill goI fo oaf

Soid fwortgages fof a iiffle whiie

BuI whaI do you do, you know?

l fwean l had a iifIle melIdown
for a liIfle biI

as anybody probabiy would

i Iook pain pills on and offfor
2ö fucking years

because I had Io

So as soon as fho back was fixed

I called my docIor and I go

''Gkay l need offfhese fucking Ihings''

I don'I wanI fo be sIupid and numb

Like, l wanI fo feei fwy fucking life

Like, IhaI's fwy...
Ihaf's who I was aiways was

You know I always had fhis life

I wanfed fo liVo and

you know, when you're doped up
and you'fo in pain

you ain'I iiving shif

The one Ihing IhaI saVod fwy life
was sfwoking poI

l wouid have beon a )unkio,
l wouid haVo beon dead

l would haVe nof boen abie Io
gof off pain pilis

l Ioll peopie whaI Ihey had
recomfwended i fako

''How did you even suwive?''

i don'f know

Didn'I a couple ofIifwes,
iike you know whaI i moan?

liko if...
if's boen a long )ournoy

So l had my dogs

i had Cash and Mary

Yoah, Cash liIerally saVed my iife

- Tellme whaf ktaH?ane anü Casft
mean fo you?

They're my famiiy

l haIe fhaf you jusI did IhaI

Yeah, Ihey're my family

Never had anybody in fwy lifo

who jusf...

fhoy'li always loVe you

and all you have fo do is jusf
show up for Ihefw

and love Ihefw back

You know, Ihero's noI
somo spociai handbook for dogs

Thoy're jusI beIfer fhan fucking
people, Ihey really afo

Yeah

l don'I know,
abouI fwo years goes by

realiy slow whon you're in a lazy boy

and IhaI's all you can do

My dog saved my lifo

i had Io iearn how Io walk again

GoI him, and i couidn'I walk

and l was in a wheelchair
and a walker

You know, I sfiii had Io work

l had no family really here

i hadn'I falkod Io my parenIs in 00...

you know, 25 years

fwy pafonfs are boIh dead

Yeah and i had Io gof
him ouf oveH day

and walk him
and goI hifw fo pee, and

fhaf's how i goI ouI and

fhaf's how i learned
how Io walk again

and if was a Iucking rough road

Never left my side 14 years

JusI losI him Ihroe woeks ago

And I jusI losI my mofw lasI week

Dog was fwuch harder

Yeah

we celobrafed our ''100 Yoars Bavaria"

four yoafs ago

and wolfgang was our special guosf

we oven dedicafed SIago g

IhaI's Ihe sIage he shoI
Snemy ktne

fo him

So l fhink we're Very pfoud of hifw

Ho will be refwembered as being

one offho mosf influenIial direcIors

in German cinoma

and l jusf hope IhaI peopie
will neVorfofgef

Wolfgang PeIorsen for Ihe

incredible work Ihaf he's done

and for difocfing my favouriIo
childhood movie of all Iifwe

Losing Wolfgang PeIorson
and his filmmaking

is such a blow

Orowing up wifh

HeYerSnöing SfoW and

Ouföreak and A HeUecf Sform,
l mean

Ihe way if was 5imed

Ihe impacI fhaI if has on you

If's a big ioss going forward
nof Io haVe him

Yeah Ihere's beon sevefal parodios

ThaI's a sign fhaf if's a
really sIrong Iilfw

There is a Robof Chicken parody

caiied The HeveFHnünC House Harfy

which is hiiarious

spank
Say my nafwe Basfiani

spank
Say my nafwei

spank
Moonchildi

ramily Guy

PeIor goes on Fleek

lI's brief buI funny

GoI on fleek

''NevorHnding Sfon'' Thomo piays

Yayi

I gof a caii

GMFG

Thoy're using your song in
Sfranqer ThnCs

♪ Tufn around iook aI whaI you see ♪

If's reaching a whoie new
audience because

in Ihe sories

Ihey don'f acIually use my recording

IheyjusI do fhe song

buI oveHono's suddeniy gono
''whaf is IhaI song?''

♪ NoverEnding SIoH... Ahhh ♪

Throughouf Ihe whole offho sefios

Ihere's so many nods fo fhe '50s

wiIh fho music, Ihe fashion

You know Ihe '50s

The HeverHnünq SfoHand

ktonsferSpuaü and

Töe Goones

They were jusI fun movies

The ofiginaiify offhe fwovies back Ihen

l fhink fhose days

l hope fhey're nof gono buI

I Ihink Ihey fwighI be

The genoraIion Ioday doosn'f
geI Io experienco

whaf wo goI fo oxperience

In Ihe '60s

fhoy paid aIIenIion Io

how kids grew up

Movie producers really capIured fhaf

and fhoy fwado movies abouI if

Kids had a lof of disposablo income

and sfudios roaiiy did caIef Io Ihem

''i wanI fo go soe a Gfomlin''

''i wanI fo go soe a kid IraVol
back in fifwe''

buf Ihe chafacfers are whaf l Ihink

drew you Ihrough Ihoso sfories

I Ihink 5lfw in Ihe '50s has jusf

iasIod wiIh us

iI was af Ihe Iime when

home video was really hiffing us

They hiI us wiIh Ioys iike

markeIing Io children,
fwerchandise...

i Ihink Ihaf's part offhe roason fhaf

we hold on fo so fwany ofIheso films is

fhefo's so many Ihings fhaI

give us momories and nosIalgia

NosIalgia will always be big

Peoplo harp back Io Ihaf Iifwe
in fhoir lifo

befofo responsibilify

bofore dafo I say

some pain

we are adulIing now

fhore's a chiid liVing inside of all of us

fhaI wanfs Io cofwe ouf

and a ioI ofIifwes we suppress iI

Ihaf innoconce neods Io be pfosenI

l Ihink Ihe firsf HeveFHnünC SfoH

sIands Ihe IesI ofIifwe because

oI Ihe Ihefwes

The sfoU ifself is roaiiy, really

profound and deep

Michaei Hnde wenf Ihrough
wofld war Ii

as a young boy

Ho felI a foeling of oveHIhing
geIIing desIroyed

which he called Tho NoIhing

and if was born of a real fear

from lived experionce

ofwhen hope and lighf gefs dfained
ouI ofyour world

Ifyou Ihink abouI if

fako a look aI whaf children do foday

and how Ihey spend mosf offheir fifwe

and so ali Ihe warnings

fhaf wore being giVon fo Basfian

abouI how liIIle we droafw anymore

foday Ihey'fo acIuaiiy coming frue

This is probably one offho biggesI

fears in life

and l Ihink iI was Ihe one IhaI scared me

in fho heart and fhe soul

lack oI sfories or imaginafion

or lifo, or cfoafiviIy

Life, if's deaIh, and iI has ffue ioss

While fhere's so much

hopo and imaginafion

and joy in Ihe Iilfw

Af ifs heart

fhofo's a veU foai foaf

offho world Iurning dark

lI was

obViousiy a pro)ecI

IhaI was desIined Io roceive

infernaIional affenfion

If was massive

on every level

I folI veA proud

if's a film

which has neVor been made
before in Germany

If's a greaf fwovie

If's a classic fwovie

l wonI Io Ihe sIudio

of Miyazaki fo wafch

Sprifeü Away

and i said ''Oh, IhaI dfagoni''

''ThaI's Faikor''

and fhoy said ''yos''

l fhink iI's one ofIhe rare

moVies fhaI nover become oid

lI seI sfandards

lI's affecIed lofs of peopie's
childhood

Thaf's why iI's ifwportanf

This movie was sofwefhing Ihaf

eveAbody couid relaIe Io

As a child l was Vory Iiny

l was picked on in school

and so BasIian and l had sfuff
in common

righI ffom Ihe sIart

If even relaIes Ioday because

when l was in Ifan and l was
in fho war

fhaI was fwy gefaway is moVies

I sIartod Ihe fan page

a coupie monfhs after

fwy fwofhor

and my broIher passed away

They wefo )usI Ihroe monIhs apart

whon fhey passed and

fhe gfiofwas crippling

i needed somofhing fo

occupy my fwind

Over fhe years if's

been like a fherapy for mo

in my heart

I'fw graIoful IhaI i had fhaf fwovie

lI's a fanfasy

buf iI's hoart

l fhink iI is

a movie abouI

growing up

and by fho way

if's noI a bad fwovie

Nof a bad movie aI all

lI's part of ouf childhood

If's sfiii gOf all Ihe olemenIs of

a faiA sIory now

Töe HeYerSnüinq SfoW
wiii bo fomembored

as one offhe fwosf influenfiai

moVios of German 5ifw hisIory

aiso one ofIhe besf

chiidren's fwovies of all Iime

So many of us

as children ofIhe '60s are
now aduifs

we're showing if Io oIher genefafions

oVor Ihe yoars and ifjusI

fomains a part of our lives

woifgang nofersen jusf has done

such a phenomenai job

in Ihe creaIion offhis film

iI's perfecI

lI's jusf sIood Ihe Iesf offifwe

because iI's liko a Yin and Yang

If's a well sfackod

iighI and dark sandwich
iaughing

I'Vo nevef seen a moVie

resonafe wifh people

as doeply as The HeverHnünC SfoH

Period. Hvef.

If's exhausIing fof fwe

l go Io an appearance

and peopie are crying and
hugging and

Like ''you changed my fucking life''
and feafs

Thaf's doep shif

lf iI hadn'I had rosonafed

so deeply wifh peopie

l wouldn'I be doing any ofIhis
fucking bullshiI

If's a Irippy fhing whon you're like

you've beon in Ihe public eye
and you've beon

i fwean, l wouidn'I say l'm fafwous
buI i'd say,

i've been fafwous af Iimes

You appoarod in ffonf offhis cafwefa

and all of a sudden you had fhis
giffod chaffwed...

Y'all I had a fucking rough ass...
you know whaf l mean?

and l sfill choose Io bo a good person

And l was supposed Io do

a whoie lof of shiI, righf

Which is sIill fine, I'm sIili nof...

i ain'f done yef. I'fw noI dead

They've ffied, and you've hoard me

and fhey haVen'f done iI yeI

BuI you know whaI I moan, like

l haVo sofwe Iime Io make up Ior

So, if I gof Ihis show done

wiIh all Ihe shif l've dono in fwy iife

If l goI Ihe show dono and
sofwebody kilied mo...

genfle fwusic

Thaf's prefIy good

genfle fwusic

...buf fhaf's anofher sIory

laughing
- Thank you so mucö

hopeful fwusic

Ono word l wouid describe

whaf Tfte Heverenünq SfoH
means Io me

is hopo

Hope for fho fhings Ihaf wo dreafw abouI

You're Ioo lazy

you're Ioo chubby

and you're Ioo Iaf

This is my dog Cassie

I adopIed her from a piaco called
Waggy Taiis

Thoy're an incrediblo animal
rescue cenfro

They)usf do amazing, amazing wofk

and fhoy fold mo sho's a

hurricane rescuo, Ihey Ihink

l could haVo goIfen like a

luck dragon dog

buf l acfually opIed for Gmork

iaughing

RighI?

clap

- Töose are synceü

Gh, yos no... kiss

Hi. If's okay

hopeful fwusic

Bernd wanIed Io fwake a big
in Hollrwood

He ioVed comic books

he was fhe firsI person

fo opIion Ihe Iilfw fighfs

Io Ihe Mawel UniVorso

Whon he 5rsf fwef Sfan Loe

ho fhoughf if was iike fweofing God

He couldn'I geI iI offfhe ground

Nobody in Hollrwood wanIod Io make

a Marvel moVie

He was losing Ihe righIs fo Ihe
ranfasfc FouF

and fho conffacf said

''lI you don'f fwake a fwovie
by Ihis dafe...

you will lose Ihe righIs''

He hifod Roger Corman

had him make a movie fof a million dollars

preIending Ihaf was a real movie

I moan Ihere wore Marvel laers
aii oVef Ihe sef

Marvel decidod Io bury iI in fhoir Vauif

I have Ihese noIos from SIan Lee
Io Bernd liko

''When is iI going Io geI made?''

SIan Lee was realiy loveiy,
he spoke af Bernd's funeral

They really loved each oIher