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In the criminal justice system
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the people are representedby two separateyet equally important groups,
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the police
who investigate crime
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and the district attorneys
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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A little bit more.
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Come on, Allie, come on.
You can do better than that.
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Let yourself go. Nice.
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Oh, my God.
Give me a pout, come on.
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Feel the clothes
against your skin, baby.
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There you go. That's it.
Think nasty thoughts.
I love it. Beautiful.
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Hey, hey!
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We're trying to sell
clothes here, man.
These are for billboards.
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You got to think big.
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I got it, Sid. I got it.
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Who are they?
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If I'm not paying
you to be here,
get the hell out!
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Am I paying you?
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I'm the DJ. I spin records
at one of your stores.
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Oh, so you put
this song on?
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You're fired.
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You know what?
In fact, everybody get out!
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Everybody! Let's go!
Come on! Out! Okay?
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Not you, baby, everybody else.
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I'll finish the shoot myself.
Thank you. Out!
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Come on, baby.
That's it. Okay.
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Oh, my God. I love it!
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Oh yeah, that's it.
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DOA's name is Sid Maxwell.
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Neighbor came home
at 3:00 am and saw
the door propped open.
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Almost had a heart attack
when he saw the body.
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What do we got,
a sex mishap?
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If it was erotic asphyxia,
he miscalculated.
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No fluids. He lost
consciousness too soon.
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The guy could've
saved himself
just by standing up.
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Pushing the limits
is part of the thrill,
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but if you take it
a little too far...
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No happy ending.
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These look like tights.
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Double-knotted.
He was supposed to have
done this himself?
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He could've tied his hands
in front, then stepped
over them, like this.
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I'm just speculating.
It's not from experience.
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Good.
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There was
a photo shoot
going on?
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Tripod, no camera.
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Here's the
photographer's name.
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Yeah, looks like
he missed the best shot.
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I've got to get going.
We just caught a fresh one.
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I'll alert the criminals
you're on your way.
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May be no
criminals involved,
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just solo sex gone
horribly wrong.
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Solo sex?
That has to be wrong.
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Well, here we go.
First day of the new me.
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What do you think?
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I always had a thing
for Grace Jones.
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You're beautiful.
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Sid seemed
fine yesterday.
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Manic, total prick,
like always.
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You can be that way
if you're rich, I guess.
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How did he get rich?
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By starting
Skintight Apparel.
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He was the sexy
underwear king of
the Lower East Side.
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He threw everybody out
around 6:00, including me.
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He threw the photographer
out of a photo shoot?
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Sid liked to do
things himself.
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Yeah, so we gather.
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The girl stayed
behind, though.
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The model?
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Model, hooker, girlfriend,
employee of the month...
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It was kind of
a fluid position.
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Mmm-hmm.
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Sid and I met when I was
working three jobs and sharing
a loft with six roommates.
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He hired me on the spot.
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Hired you to do what,
exactly? Hold up.
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Anything Sid wanted.
Working in the store,
modeling...
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Spotting for him
during S and M sessions?
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Sid said he wanted
to try something new.
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I didn't want to
seem like a prude.
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He just wanted
me to watch.
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So did you?
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I told him I had to
go get cigarettes
at the store.
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I was weirded out.
I just went home.
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So you just left him
hanging there with his hands
tied behind his back?
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No, his hands were
not tied when I left.
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Did any of his staff
have complaints?
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Yeah, there was this one girl.
She got pretty freaked out.
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I think she sued him.
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That son of a bitch.
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He pulled my top off
at a photo shoot
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at the Saint Patrick's Day
parade.
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No warning, just,
"Oops, you're naked."
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And that was more than
what you bargained for.
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My job description
didn't say "get raped
by leprechauns."
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Sid's lawyers said
I should have understood
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I was working
in a highly sexualized
environment.
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That sounds like
you had a good case.
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We'll never know.
Sid's lawyers buried my guy
in so many motions
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I couldn't afford
to keep going.
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I lost. Sid won.
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When was the last time
you saw Mr. Maxwell?
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I don't know.
Six months.
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No contact after that?
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I told myself the one good
thing was I'd never have to
hear his voice again.
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And I didn't.
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And now I never will.
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Hmm. This guy had
a way with the women.
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All sex all the time.
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His company sells
five-dollar T-shirts
for 40 dollars.
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Sex is part of the brand.
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And his
model/girlfriend/whatever
was fine with that?
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According to her.
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The building surveillance
camera shows her leaving
Maxwell's place at 10:00.
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Then it stopped working.
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Well, that's
a coincidence.
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She left the apartment door
ajar so she could get back in.
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The building door
had a keypad lock.
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Maxwell gave her the
number, but she took off
for Brooklyn instead.
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Where an ATM saw her
withdrawing cash at 10:30,
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time of death was
after midnight.
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Sag paneer, Lieu?
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Oh, no thanks.
Me and food aren't
getting along that great.
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"You are a hideous pig."
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"I heard your lawyer quit.
Now how are you going to pay
for the boob job you need?"
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It's a text message between
Sid Maxwell and Bonnie Allman,
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the girl who sued him.
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She said she hadn't heard
from him in six months.
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She said she hadn't
heard his voice.
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Maxwell sent this
to her last Monday.
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Yeah.
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Tuesday, Maxwell
filed a complaint.
His car was vandalized.
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Bonnie Allman
strikes back?
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"Text this, scumbag!"
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Yeah,
"Love, Bonnie."
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She saved the 10 cents
it would cost her
to reply by text,
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and this was
so much more satisfying.
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The car doesn't look
like it's been driven
since the incident.
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The driver's window is
smashed, with shards of glass
embedded in the seat.
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Whoever did this
used some force.
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Yeah, somebody cared.
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I've got some prints
where the basher may
have leaned in
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to slash
the upholstery.
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I'll get them
over to Latents.
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Great.
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No match.
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The prints on the
car don't belong
to Bonnie Allman.
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Do they match
anyone we know?
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We got a dozen
hits for a guy
named Todd Bissell.
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He's a perp that was
arrested for public
lewdness 12 years ago.
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B-I, two "S's"?
Yeah.
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All right.
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Mr. Bissell.
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Am I nuts,
or is that Sid Maxwell
with a mustache?
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Twelve years ago,
lean and hungry.
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He must have changed
his name when he became
the underwear king.
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Okay, let's see
what else he was up
to as Todd Bissell.
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What's that?
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FlashPosse.net.
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A site dedicated
to righting social wrongs.
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Is he typing on that
with both hands?
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Yes. And
FlashPosse is mad.
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"This idiot veered
into my lane
on the FDR today.
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"He was texting
while driving. I could
have been killed."
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Look at this one
from Freddy-Six
in Long Island.
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"Somebody needs to
kill him before he
does kill someone."
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How did they
know who it was?
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Hmm. "I identified
the car and model
from its dashboard
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"and then hacked
into DMV records
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"for every '79 Mercedes
that color in New York,
New Jersey and Connecticut.
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"I found one that is
registered to someone
named Todd Bissell."
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Mmm-hmm.
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They posted his address.
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"326 Bowery,
Apartment 11A
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"in case anybody wants
to drop by and teach
this jerk some manners."
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Somebody did.
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It's not a blog.
It's a forum for
corrective social action.
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Yeah, well, it struck
me like a well-chummed
shark tank.
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Look, if somebody
lets their dog crap
on the sidewalk,
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that's an offense to everybody
that walks by, right?
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This is just a way
of striking back.
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So you take
a picture of the owner,
find out who they are,
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post their address
and phone number.
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So people can tell them
what they think.
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If they shove
dog crap in our faces,
they can take a phone call.
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Hmm.
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How do you get
this information?
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FlashPosse.net has
thousands of visitors.
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Between us, we have
a lot of expertise,
a lot of connections.
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In China they call it
a human flesh search engine.
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Yeah. There was
a woman there,
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she posted a video
of herself stepping
on a kitten and killing it.
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Just her shoe
and the kitten.
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People blew up
the video,
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they found out
where the shoe came from,
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they identified a building
in the background...
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They found out who it was.
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She lost her job,
she had to go into hiding.
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You feel bad for her?
I don't.
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We're here about a man
named Todd Bissell,
and as far as I know,
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he didn't massacre
any cats.
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Bissell's just as bad.
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Do you know how dangerous
texting while driving is?
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Yeah. "Somebody
should kill this guy."
From your website.
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I didn't realize
it deserved
the death penalty.
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You never heard
of hyperbole, Detective?
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It wasn't hyperbole.
Todd Bissell was murdered.
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Under his other
name, Sid Maxwell.
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And you think we had
something to do with that?
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We'd like the names
of your members who posted
threats against Mr. Bissell.
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No.
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Hmm.
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We are the police,
Mr. Leary.
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And it's our job to take
"corrective social action."
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No.
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All right, all right.
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So, you think this guy was
killed because he was seen
texting while driving?
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Well, the comments
on the website are
pretty intense.
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The comments on that website
are probably free speech.
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It's not going to be easy
to uphold a subpoena.
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Is this free speech?
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It's from the site.
This is Maxwell's
vandalized car.
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You think the guy
who vandalized the car
took the picture?
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We can't prove it.
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Neither can I.
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Listen, if you can show
that FlashPosse's hot air
has real-world consequences,
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I might be able
to convince a judge
to give us those names.
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Yeah, well, that site
goes after a lot of people.
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Find me a good one.
All right.
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I thought the worst thing
that could happen was when
my husband committed suicide.
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Then a month later
the phone calls started.
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People I didn't know.
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They called me a whore.
They said it was my fault.
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The website posted excerpts
from my husband's diary
that it got from his parents.
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They said I had an affair
and that's why
Donald killed himself.
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I asked the website
to take them down.
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They said they were
providing a public service,
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letting the public
decide what was right
and what was wrong.
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It's my understanding
that Mr. Leary
offered Ms. Davies
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the chance to tell
her side of the story.
239
00:12:33,317 --> 00:12:34,906
I'm supposed to go
on a public website
240
00:12:34,986 --> 00:12:36,944
and tell the world
I had an affair,
241
00:12:37,054 --> 00:12:40,542
but my husband
had 20, and he was
clinically depressed?
242
00:12:40,951 --> 00:12:43,919
Isn't that private?
Shouldn't that be private?
243
00:12:44,319 --> 00:12:45,878
Who made you God?
244
00:12:46,348 --> 00:12:47,976
Why don't you
leave people alone?
245
00:12:48,056 --> 00:12:50,245
Okay, okay.
Thank you, ma'am.
246
00:12:53,722 --> 00:12:57,050
Okay, now what does
that have to do
with this subpoena?
247
00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:58,589
It demonstrates
that threats made
248
00:12:58,659 --> 00:13:00,518
on Mr. Leary's website
have consequences.
249
00:13:00,587 --> 00:13:02,986
Ms. Rubirosa is talking
about constitutionally
protected opinions.
250
00:13:03,056 --> 00:13:04,085
The subpoena
should be quashed.
251
00:13:04,155 --> 00:13:06,993
No, I am talking about
specific threats made
to kill a man
252
00:13:07,063 --> 00:13:08,252
who soon after was killed.
253
00:13:08,322 --> 00:13:11,320
That's venting. It's hot air.
"I could kill that guy
who stole my parking place."
254
00:13:11,390 --> 00:13:12,619
It's a figure of speech.
255
00:13:12,689 --> 00:13:14,528
Not to Rebecca Davies,
it's not, as we just heard.
256
00:13:14,597 --> 00:13:17,425
Look, if anyone harassed
that woman, arrest them.
They committed a crime.
257
00:13:17,495 --> 00:13:20,054
But people who
expressed opinions
on a website did not.
258
00:13:21,133 --> 00:13:24,420
I feel sorry for the lady,
Ms. Rubirosa. I really do.
259
00:13:24,830 --> 00:13:27,888
But I honestly don't see
what she has to do
with Mr. Maxwell.
260
00:13:31,236 --> 00:13:35,093
Rubirosa just called.
No subpoena for the names.
261
00:13:35,163 --> 00:13:36,152
Bernard.
262
00:13:36,262 --> 00:13:37,601
So we find another way.
263
00:13:37,671 --> 00:13:38,650
Who is this?
264
00:13:39,430 --> 00:13:40,659
Hey, screw you.
265
00:13:41,798 --> 00:13:43,567
I'm guessing that
wasn't your mother.
266
00:13:43,637 --> 00:13:45,365
Somebody calling me a Nazi.
267
00:13:45,735 --> 00:13:49,672
You know, an hour ago
somebody called telling me
that I needed to go on a diet.
268
00:13:50,672 --> 00:13:51,901
Maybe that was
your mother.
269
00:13:51,971 --> 00:13:53,030
No.
270
00:13:53,570 --> 00:13:55,099
Oh, boy.
271
00:13:55,708 --> 00:13:57,677
FlashPosse.net.
272
00:14:00,705 --> 00:14:03,503
"Detective
Kevin Bernard. Call and
tell him what you think."
273
00:14:03,573 --> 00:14:06,371
Oh, they even posted
your cell phone number.
Thoughtful.
274
00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,708
My unlisted number.
Somebody hacked it.
275
00:14:09,808 --> 00:14:11,937
"Corrective social action."
276
00:14:12,106 --> 00:14:13,765
New post coming in...
277
00:14:14,345 --> 00:14:17,143
"This cop
bully should be
ashamed of himself."
278
00:14:18,012 --> 00:14:19,941
You know,
if we were set up right,
279
00:14:20,011 --> 00:14:21,999
we could trace
these messages
as they're posted.
280
00:14:22,079 --> 00:14:23,508
That's when
the links are open.
281
00:14:23,878 --> 00:14:26,006
So we wouldn't
need a subpoena.
282
00:14:26,076 --> 00:14:29,344
Just a big juicy target
to get the ranters ranting.
283
00:14:35,180 --> 00:14:37,668
What about Lupo?
He's juicy.
284
00:14:37,788 --> 00:14:40,516
Thank you,
but four years in Intel,
285
00:14:40,586 --> 00:14:42,275
we don't want anyone
digging through that.
286
00:14:42,755 --> 00:14:46,152
Plus, you seem to be
the one they like, Detective.
287
00:14:52,687 --> 00:14:53,847
These guys are good.
288
00:14:53,927 --> 00:14:56,325
They've got your
credit record up now,
and police reports.
289
00:14:56,385 --> 00:14:59,792
Were you arrested
for speeding
in California in 1996?
290
00:14:59,852 --> 00:15:02,081
Look, I got a ticket.
I paid the fine.
291
00:15:02,620 --> 00:15:04,819
Okay. And...
292
00:15:05,358 --> 00:15:07,757
Here is BillyBoy14.
293
00:15:08,556 --> 00:15:09,615
"This cop is an outrage.
294
00:15:09,695 --> 00:15:12,683
"A policeman's first duty is
to protect our liberties."
295
00:15:13,992 --> 00:15:16,620
And here is our trace
on BillyBoy.
296
00:15:17,260 --> 00:15:18,489
Where is he?
297
00:15:19,698 --> 00:15:20,957
He's in Astoria.
298
00:15:21,367 --> 00:15:22,956
All right, write him back.
299
00:15:23,226 --> 00:15:25,224
Okay... What's my screen name?
300
00:15:25,294 --> 00:15:28,232
"Detective Bernard."
We want them to know it's you.
301
00:15:29,331 --> 00:15:30,590
All right.
302
00:15:31,070 --> 00:15:33,229
"My first duty
303
00:15:33,798 --> 00:15:35,997
"is to arrest criminals
304
00:15:36,736 --> 00:15:40,563
"who hide behind
bogus free speech."
305
00:15:40,633 --> 00:15:42,002
Mmm. Nice.
306
00:15:45,939 --> 00:15:49,067
All right, looking good.
You know how to piss them off.
307
00:15:49,137 --> 00:15:50,296
My special talent.
308
00:15:51,106 --> 00:15:54,004
Any of those screen names
match people who threatened
Sid Maxwell?
309
00:15:54,074 --> 00:15:56,302
Yeah, one or two.
Hit them again.
310
00:15:56,972 --> 00:15:59,000
"You're cowards
311
00:16:00,309 --> 00:16:02,797
"and you're stupid."
312
00:16:05,346 --> 00:16:10,772
Okay, okay. We are matching,
matching, tracing, tracing...
313
00:16:19,416 --> 00:16:22,603
They hate you, B.
They really hate you.
314
00:16:23,343 --> 00:16:24,712
I see.
315
00:16:26,251 --> 00:16:27,310
Wow.
316
00:16:28,579 --> 00:16:30,068
I was just
blowing off steam.
317
00:16:30,148 --> 00:16:31,277
That's not
against the law.
318
00:16:31,347 --> 00:16:34,185
Hey. "If he can't keep
his hands on the wheel
and eyes on the road,
319
00:16:34,255 --> 00:16:36,513
"maybe he ought to lose them.
Taliban justice."
320
00:16:37,782 --> 00:16:39,012
It was a joke.
321
00:16:39,151 --> 00:16:41,949
"This guy should be tied
in the middle of FDR Drive
322
00:16:42,019 --> 00:16:46,676
"while texting drivers
try to dodge him,"
says Sly-Avenger.
323
00:16:47,386 --> 00:16:48,825
That's you, right?
324
00:16:48,885 --> 00:16:53,291
Well, that's not
what happened to him,
though,
325
00:16:54,361 --> 00:16:55,650
is it?
326
00:16:56,089 --> 00:16:57,578
I am so embarrassed.
327
00:16:58,228 --> 00:17:01,196
Some of the things
I wrote about that man,
328
00:17:01,825 --> 00:17:04,014
my language
was inappropriate.
329
00:17:04,393 --> 00:17:07,481
Frankly, Ms. Sands,
you don't seem like the type.
330
00:17:07,561 --> 00:17:09,490
I know. It's just...
331
00:17:12,458 --> 00:17:17,224
Three years ago, my daughter
was killed by a taxi driver
who was texting.
332
00:17:17,734 --> 00:17:19,023
I'm so sorry.
333
00:17:19,093 --> 00:17:20,292
They never caught him.
334
00:17:20,732 --> 00:17:24,289
When I saw the photo
of that man texting,
335
00:17:24,629 --> 00:17:26,528
not even looking
at the road...
336
00:17:27,467 --> 00:17:30,095
Some other child
could have been hurt.
337
00:17:31,464 --> 00:17:34,732
Maybe I can look
into what happened
to your daughter.
338
00:17:35,401 --> 00:17:36,770
That would be...
339
00:17:37,940 --> 00:17:38,959
Thank you.
340
00:17:39,568 --> 00:17:41,127
Somebody hacked into
the security system
341
00:17:41,207 --> 00:17:43,466
at Sid Maxwell's building
the night he was killed.
342
00:17:43,735 --> 00:17:46,723
You worked as
a security systems engineer.
343
00:17:48,242 --> 00:17:49,261
So?
344
00:17:49,371 --> 00:17:53,738
This is a photo
of Maxwell's vandalized car
uploaded from your IP address.
345
00:17:53,808 --> 00:17:57,066
If your prints are found
in his apartment,
you're screwed.
346
00:17:58,245 --> 00:17:59,704
I'm screwed?
347
00:18:00,613 --> 00:18:02,972
A, I didn't kill anybody.
348
00:18:03,311 --> 00:18:08,208
B, it's not my Social Security
number that got posted
online this morning.
349
00:18:12,375 --> 00:18:15,433
So, I should be going.
Is there anything else?
350
00:18:15,713 --> 00:18:18,471
No. We have your name
and your address.
351
00:18:19,150 --> 00:18:20,739
Thank you for your concern.
352
00:18:20,879 --> 00:18:23,107
Lieutenant,
that information
you requested.
353
00:18:23,177 --> 00:18:24,236
Thanks.
354
00:18:29,213 --> 00:18:30,372
Ms. Sands,
355
00:18:32,151 --> 00:18:36,308
if you don't mind,
could you come back
and sit for a minute?
356
00:18:49,389 --> 00:18:53,416
We checked accident reports
from three years ago,
357
00:18:53,795 --> 00:18:59,851
and there was no report
involving a taxi and a child.
358
00:19:00,660 --> 00:19:02,020
I saw it happen.
359
00:19:02,129 --> 00:19:05,887
And you do have a daughter,
but she didn't die.
360
00:19:05,997 --> 00:19:08,465
Social Services
took her away from you
361
00:19:08,525 --> 00:19:11,982
because you offered her
to a Catholic church
362
00:19:12,532 --> 00:19:14,461
as a human sacrifice.
363
00:19:16,059 --> 00:19:19,117
I don't believe
in human sacrifices.
364
00:19:20,536 --> 00:19:24,793
Ms. Sands, were you
at Mr. Maxwell's apartment
Friday night?
365
00:19:26,432 --> 00:19:28,760
He was getting messages
from the Devil.
366
00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,958
Who was? Mr. Maxwell?
367
00:19:32,038 --> 00:19:33,727
Not just him.
368
00:19:33,807 --> 00:19:36,135
He tells them whom to kill.
369
00:19:40,132 --> 00:19:43,630
Who tells who whom to kill?
370
00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,498
Mr. Maxwell? The Devil?
371
00:19:49,606 --> 00:19:51,594
May I please see
a lawyer now?
372
00:20:01,007 --> 00:20:04,175
Ms. Sands has informed me
that she has nothing else
to say at this time.
373
00:20:04,245 --> 00:20:07,833
Except that people who get
texts while they drive are
servants of the Devil.
374
00:20:07,912 --> 00:20:09,002
Except that.
375
00:20:09,741 --> 00:20:13,009
She already mentioned
that Sid Maxwell was
one of those servants.
376
00:20:13,079 --> 00:20:15,237
So you say.
I wasn't here.
377
00:20:16,616 --> 00:20:18,775
Do you want to add
anything else, Ms. Sands?
378
00:20:19,814 --> 00:20:21,513
That man was evil.
379
00:20:21,753 --> 00:20:24,441
If you don't know that,
you shouldn't be a policeman.
380
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,109
Crazy enough for you?
381
00:20:27,189 --> 00:20:30,586
Oh yeah. Do you have
any evidence against her
for the murder?
382
00:20:30,656 --> 00:20:33,984
So far, just her rants
against Maxwell
on the website.
383
00:20:34,054 --> 00:20:36,782
Well, that and this,
it's enough
for a search warrant.
384
00:20:41,489 --> 00:20:42,648
Wow.
385
00:20:44,486 --> 00:20:47,684
Texting while driving,
texting while driving,
386
00:20:47,854 --> 00:20:50,752
Todd Bissell,
Todd Bissell...
387
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,149
This must be
Kerry Sands' daughter,
388
00:20:55,229 --> 00:20:56,918
the one who isn't
actually dead.
389
00:20:57,397 --> 00:20:59,985
Oh, yeah. The state
takes her daughter away
and she can't deal with it,
390
00:21:00,055 --> 00:21:01,524
and she comes up with this?
391
00:21:02,823 --> 00:21:04,192
I don't see
the connection.
392
00:21:04,262 --> 00:21:05,781
Hey, check it out.
393
00:21:05,861 --> 00:21:07,290
That's the girl
from the photo session
394
00:21:07,360 --> 00:21:09,349
the night Bissell
aka Maxwell was killed.
395
00:21:09,698 --> 00:21:11,427
Looks like
Ms. Sands took a souvenir.
396
00:21:11,497 --> 00:21:14,555
That would put her
on the scene, but how did
she get in the building?
397
00:21:14,635 --> 00:21:16,963
"8426."
That's the entry code,
398
00:21:17,463 --> 00:21:19,561
right next to a picture
of the keypad.
399
00:21:19,731 --> 00:21:22,289
And that's Maxwell's
apartment door,
propped open.
400
00:21:22,369 --> 00:21:24,488
This looks like
a security camera still.
401
00:21:25,067 --> 00:21:27,396
The camera that
mysteriously went dark.
402
00:21:27,536 --> 00:21:29,394
She was the one
who hacked into
the security system?
403
00:21:29,464 --> 00:21:32,902
No. The header says
FlashPosse.net,
404
00:21:33,431 --> 00:21:36,459
her friendly neighborhood
social justice website.
405
00:21:37,269 --> 00:21:39,667
Well, there's no time
or date on this.
406
00:21:39,737 --> 00:21:42,335
If she got this stuff
the night of the murder,
that would nail things down.
407
00:21:42,675 --> 00:21:44,793
The FlashPosse computer
would show us when
they were posted.
408
00:21:44,873 --> 00:21:47,601
Can we go find out,
with a warrant? Please?
409
00:21:49,010 --> 00:21:50,060
I'm calling my lawyer.
410
00:21:50,140 --> 00:21:52,508
Yeah, when you do,
tell him the cop bully
is here
411
00:21:52,578 --> 00:21:53,937
with a search warrant
this time.
412
00:21:54,177 --> 00:21:55,266
Hey, you can't
take that!
413
00:21:55,346 --> 00:21:56,395
You'll get it back.
414
00:21:56,475 --> 00:21:57,734
There's more gear
back here.
415
00:21:57,814 --> 00:21:58,903
Anything else
you want me to take?
416
00:21:58,973 --> 00:22:00,002
Let me check.
417
00:22:00,072 --> 00:22:01,302
This is harassment.
418
00:22:01,382 --> 00:22:05,469
No. Calling my cell phone
and telling me I'm a Nazi,
that's harassment.
419
00:22:05,579 --> 00:22:07,507
Is that what this is about?
You can't stand a little heat?
420
00:22:07,577 --> 00:22:08,976
Look, I'm doing my job.
421
00:22:09,046 --> 00:22:12,534
This is about a murder
and a woman named Kerry Sands.
Do you know her?
422
00:22:13,183 --> 00:22:15,172
The woman whose kid
wasn't killed by a taxi?
423
00:22:15,252 --> 00:22:17,650
Yeah. We're open
to the public.
We take all comers.
424
00:22:18,319 --> 00:22:19,579
That's it.
You ready to go?
425
00:22:19,648 --> 00:22:20,668
Yeah.
426
00:22:21,247 --> 00:22:22,307
Oh...
427
00:22:22,387 --> 00:22:23,476
Bye.
428
00:22:24,155 --> 00:22:25,484
Here's the full dump
of material
429
00:22:25,554 --> 00:22:27,813
from the Sid Maxwell section
of FlashPosse.net.
430
00:22:27,883 --> 00:22:30,181
Yeah, the good stuff was
in a password-protected area
431
00:22:30,251 --> 00:22:33,379
for people who had
a special interest
in Mr. Maxwell.
432
00:22:33,489 --> 00:22:34,918
The code to his
building's front door?
433
00:22:34,988 --> 00:22:38,475
Right, just in case
somebody wanted to drop by.
434
00:22:38,985 --> 00:22:42,322
Ms. Sands accessed
this photo just
after midnight.
435
00:22:42,392 --> 00:22:45,520
A few minutes later,
she takes a car service
to Maxwell's apartment.
436
00:22:45,590 --> 00:22:46,649
Do you have the driver?
437
00:22:46,719 --> 00:22:48,058
Mmm-hmm. He remembers
her pretty well.
438
00:22:48,128 --> 00:22:51,756
She told him she doesn't
take taxis because
of their link to the Devil.
439
00:22:52,295 --> 00:22:56,922
Hmm. Arrest her for murder
and I will apply with
the court for a 730 exam.
440
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,427
I found the police report
you filed about the taxi
striking your daughter.
441
00:23:05,496 --> 00:23:07,984
The police didn't do anything.
They wouldn't do anything.
442
00:23:08,064 --> 00:23:10,082
The report says
they investigated.
443
00:23:10,762 --> 00:23:13,160
The taxi hit
a garbage can.
444
00:23:13,230 --> 00:23:14,929
Nobody was injured.
445
00:23:14,999 --> 00:23:16,728
Why would it say that?
446
00:23:21,334 --> 00:23:25,601
Do I have to explain
everything to you?
447
00:23:26,970 --> 00:23:28,200
Do you mind?
448
00:23:28,499 --> 00:23:29,698
I don't know.
449
00:23:31,237 --> 00:23:32,496
Will you help me?
450
00:23:33,266 --> 00:23:34,735
Help you do what?
451
00:23:35,005 --> 00:23:36,664
Stop the killing.
452
00:23:37,273 --> 00:23:38,762
Stop the evil.
453
00:23:40,301 --> 00:23:43,708
Like Sid Maxwell?
Was he evil?
454
00:23:44,708 --> 00:23:47,965
He got a message
when he was driving.
455
00:23:48,675 --> 00:23:50,733
That's when they send
the messages.
456
00:23:50,813 --> 00:23:52,432
They think no one can see.
457
00:23:52,842 --> 00:23:54,831
What do the messages say?
458
00:23:55,340 --> 00:23:56,499
Whom to kill.
459
00:23:56,779 --> 00:23:59,297
So Sid Maxwell was
going to kill someone?
460
00:23:59,977 --> 00:24:01,776
Isn't that why we're here?
461
00:24:01,846 --> 00:24:04,034
And you were supposed to do
something about that?
462
00:24:04,144 --> 00:24:08,011
There was no point
calling the police.
That report proves that.
463
00:24:09,210 --> 00:24:11,409
I had to take care
of that man myself.
464
00:24:13,018 --> 00:24:14,177
So I did.
465
00:24:15,116 --> 00:24:17,744
She's a pretty
well-managed schizophrenic.
466
00:24:17,814 --> 00:24:19,613
It's not immediately obvious.
467
00:24:19,983 --> 00:24:22,641
Unless you start talking
about texting while driving.
468
00:24:22,721 --> 00:24:24,310
Or about the Devil.
469
00:24:24,389 --> 00:24:27,717
He sends messages
to his servants while
they're in their cars,
470
00:24:27,787 --> 00:24:30,345
telling them which
pure-hearted people to kill.
471
00:24:30,425 --> 00:24:32,883
But she tried to have
her own daughter killed
472
00:24:32,953 --> 00:24:35,112
by human sacrifice.
473
00:24:35,192 --> 00:24:38,949
For purification.
Her delusion was
a little different then.
474
00:24:39,059 --> 00:24:42,616
When the state took
her daughter away,
it rattled her reality.
475
00:24:42,886 --> 00:24:46,584
That same day, she saw
a taxi driver plow
into a garbage can.
476
00:24:46,654 --> 00:24:48,752
The garbage can
became her daughter.
477
00:24:48,822 --> 00:24:51,450
The taxi driver
became evil.
478
00:24:51,530 --> 00:24:53,119
Suddenly everything
made sense.
479
00:24:53,189 --> 00:24:54,218
Perfectly.
480
00:24:54,298 --> 00:24:56,387
Is Ms. Sands competent
to stand trial?
481
00:24:56,457 --> 00:24:58,625
No. And if she ever is,
482
00:24:58,695 --> 00:25:02,682
the verdict will be
"not guilty by reason
of mental disease or defect."
483
00:25:03,162 --> 00:25:06,030
She needs to be locked up,
for everybody's good.
484
00:25:06,399 --> 00:25:08,728
Call Judge Hiram
and the woman's attorney.
485
00:25:08,828 --> 00:25:11,696
Work out a plan
for institutionalization.
486
00:25:11,766 --> 00:25:12,955
Thank you, Doctor.
487
00:25:14,664 --> 00:25:16,762
I'll book some time
in the grand jury.
488
00:25:16,832 --> 00:25:18,161
What for?
The woman's insane.
489
00:25:18,231 --> 00:25:19,320
Not for her.
490
00:25:19,770 --> 00:25:22,028
Did you see the file
on FlashPosse.net?
491
00:25:22,098 --> 00:25:23,587
That place
on the World Wide Web?
492
00:25:23,697 --> 00:25:25,666
Actually, they don't
call it that anymore.
493
00:25:25,736 --> 00:25:28,224
Excuse me, should I have said
"wireless telegraph"?
494
00:25:29,273 --> 00:25:34,469
FlashPosse whipped up
a frenzy against Sid Maxwell.
It was a virtual lynch mob.
495
00:25:34,539 --> 00:25:38,237
A lynch mob sitting
at computers typing things?
496
00:25:38,337 --> 00:25:40,035
Yeah, things like
"this guy ought
to be killed"
497
00:25:40,105 --> 00:25:41,804
and "here's how to
get into his apartment."
498
00:25:41,874 --> 00:25:43,863
All delivered
into the hands
of a crazy woman.
499
00:25:43,943 --> 00:25:46,271
"A person is guilty
of murder when they
recklessly engage
500
00:25:46,341 --> 00:25:49,539
"in conduct which creates
a grave risk of death
to another person,
501
00:25:49,609 --> 00:25:52,237
"and thereby
causes the death
of another person."
502
00:25:52,307 --> 00:25:53,366
I know the law.
503
00:25:53,446 --> 00:25:54,775
The shoe fits, Jack.
504
00:25:54,845 --> 00:25:57,973
Kerry Sands was the bullet,
the website was the gun.
505
00:25:58,812 --> 00:26:00,641
You really want to do this?
506
00:26:00,811 --> 00:26:03,749
You'll be pushing the limits,
trying to make new law.
507
00:26:03,878 --> 00:26:05,907
Like you did
with gun manufacturers
508
00:26:06,047 --> 00:26:09,015
and Justice Department
torture memo writers?
509
00:26:11,283 --> 00:26:15,680
So, these FlashPosse people,
whom exactly are you
planning to indict?
510
00:26:16,380 --> 00:26:17,779
All of them.
511
00:26:21,916 --> 00:26:25,113
All of these
people are parties
to this motion?
512
00:26:25,183 --> 00:26:27,242
Not by choice, Your Honor.
For some strange reason
513
00:26:27,322 --> 00:26:28,841
the District Attorney has
chosen to indict
514
00:26:28,921 --> 00:26:30,849
half of New York City
for the murder of Sid Maxwell.
515
00:26:30,919 --> 00:26:33,407
Only because
they all helped kill him.
516
00:26:33,487 --> 00:26:34,517
It's preposterous.
517
00:26:34,587 --> 00:26:36,715
A schizophrenic
named Kerry Sands
murdered Sid Maxwell,
518
00:26:36,785 --> 00:26:38,054
as the state
freely acknowledges.
519
00:26:38,124 --> 00:26:40,213
These people did nothing
but post comments
on a website
520
00:26:40,292 --> 00:26:41,981
that Ms. Sands
occasionally visited.
521
00:26:42,061 --> 00:26:43,280
Is that true, Mr. Cutter?
522
00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:45,659
"Post comments" is
an understatement.
523
00:26:45,729 --> 00:26:49,956
They encouraged
Ms. Sands to commit
violence against Mr. Maxwell.
524
00:26:50,026 --> 00:26:53,513
If I yell "kill the umpire"
and some psychotic does it,
I'm not guilty of murder.
525
00:26:53,593 --> 00:26:57,080
The website went
beyond exhortations
to kill Mr. Maxwell.
526
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,459
It gave instructions
on how to do it.
527
00:26:59,759 --> 00:27:03,826
Some of its members
took actions that
enabled Ms. Sands
528
00:27:03,936 --> 00:27:06,554
to enter and leave
his apartment undetected.
529
00:27:07,303 --> 00:27:10,791
What are we
talking about here,
exhortations or actions?
530
00:27:10,871 --> 00:27:13,429
In this case, Your Honor,
it's a pretty fine line.
531
00:27:14,168 --> 00:27:15,527
Not to me.
532
00:27:15,597 --> 00:27:19,055
Any comment about Mr. Maxwell,
even negative ones,
are protected speech
533
00:27:19,135 --> 00:27:22,362
and may not be
used in any way
in your prosecution.
534
00:27:22,432 --> 00:27:26,799
There is the First Amendment
exception about shouting
fire in a crowded theater.
535
00:27:27,239 --> 00:27:31,396
Were any of these people
in physical proximity
to Ms. Sands or the victim?
536
00:27:32,635 --> 00:27:34,973
No.
Then the theater
wasn't crowded.
537
00:27:35,473 --> 00:27:39,630
You are free to proceed
in accordance with my ruling
if you still have a case.
538
00:27:44,806 --> 00:27:45,966
Do we?
539
00:27:46,046 --> 00:27:49,173
We'd better.
If we don't stop
them now, who's next?
540
00:27:54,879 --> 00:27:57,807
You're lucky the judge
didn't throw your
case out entirely.
541
00:27:57,877 --> 00:27:59,676
She's living
in the 20th century.
542
00:27:59,746 --> 00:28:02,334
Words on the Internet
have consequences.
543
00:28:02,414 --> 00:28:05,352
Actually, she's living
in the 18th century,
544
00:28:05,412 --> 00:28:06,971
when the Bill of Rights
was written,
545
00:28:07,051 --> 00:28:09,209
which, on balance,
is a good thing.
546
00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:12,117
Well, if it weren't for
what people on that website
said and did,
547
00:28:12,187 --> 00:28:14,545
Kerry Sands would have
never murdered Sid Maxwell.
548
00:28:14,615 --> 00:28:17,213
Yes, but now you'll
have to forget
about the "said."
549
00:28:17,623 --> 00:28:19,781
I'm dropping the charges
against the cheerleaders,
550
00:28:19,851 --> 00:28:22,290
but I'm still moving
against the guy
who ran the site
551
00:28:22,350 --> 00:28:24,908
and the people
who sent out the photos
and the door code.
552
00:28:24,988 --> 00:28:29,255
They'll say they were only
encouraging people to send
Maxwell a message,
553
00:28:29,325 --> 00:28:31,483
that they never intended
for him to be killed.
554
00:28:31,553 --> 00:28:34,111
They were dealing
with a crazy woman.
555
00:28:34,891 --> 00:28:37,449
They didn't have to
intend for her to kill him.
556
00:28:37,529 --> 00:28:41,186
If they recklessly
disregarded the likelihood
that it would happen,
557
00:28:41,256 --> 00:28:42,345
they're guilty.
558
00:28:43,794 --> 00:28:45,123
Good luck.
559
00:28:49,930 --> 00:28:54,727
"Thank you for sharing the
information about
this accomplice of the Devil."
560
00:28:55,496 --> 00:28:58,224
That was one of the messages
posted by Kerry Sands
561
00:28:58,294 --> 00:29:00,692
on the Sid Maxwell section
of the website.
562
00:29:01,402 --> 00:29:05,129
And how many messages
did Ms. Sands post
there altogether?
563
00:29:05,269 --> 00:29:06,818
More than 400.
564
00:29:06,928 --> 00:29:10,455
And who posted
the second largest amount
of messages there?
565
00:29:10,535 --> 00:29:14,522
Someone with
the screen name Kewpie-Doll.
She posted 22.
566
00:29:15,502 --> 00:29:18,490
Twenty-two versus 400.
567
00:29:19,169 --> 00:29:22,227
Did Ms. Sands' messages
stand out in any other way?
568
00:29:22,567 --> 00:29:24,695
No one else mentioned Satan.
569
00:29:25,005 --> 00:29:30,341
No one else mentioned
that God's angels would
take vengeance on Mr. Maxwell
570
00:29:30,671 --> 00:29:33,229
and dance in his evil blood.
571
00:29:33,469 --> 00:29:36,097
Would you characterize
her messages as sane?
572
00:29:36,177 --> 00:29:38,365
Objection. The witness
is a psychiatrist.
573
00:29:38,445 --> 00:29:41,743
Her judgment isn't the same
as that of a layperson
reading those messages.
574
00:29:41,843 --> 00:29:43,172
I'll sustain that.
575
00:29:43,242 --> 00:29:47,229
Dr. Olivet, please
read some more of
Ms. Sands' postings.
576
00:29:48,348 --> 00:29:52,505
"God's angels will sing
in heaven when this man
gets his just reward.
577
00:29:52,975 --> 00:29:57,142
"Death shall be
answered with death,
the Lord commands us."
578
00:29:57,812 --> 00:30:02,338
"Death shall be
answered with death."
579
00:30:05,916 --> 00:30:08,944
Pursuant to a search warrant,
we seized a computer server
580
00:30:09,053 --> 00:30:10,602
from the residence
of Mr. Leary
581
00:30:10,682 --> 00:30:13,151
and turned it over to
our Computer Crimes Squad.
582
00:30:13,350 --> 00:30:15,249
And what did
that squad determine?
583
00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:19,276
That Mr. Keegan had
hacked into and manipulated
the security cameras
584
00:30:19,356 --> 00:30:21,475
at Mr. Maxwell's
apartment building,
585
00:30:21,555 --> 00:30:23,853
and Mr. Mason
cracked and posted
586
00:30:23,923 --> 00:30:26,511
the code to the front door
of his building,
587
00:30:26,591 --> 00:30:29,559
while Ms. Sands obtained that
information from the website
588
00:30:29,619 --> 00:30:32,087
less than an hour
before she murdered
Mr. Maxwell.
589
00:30:32,457 --> 00:30:36,484
Was there any sign
the defendants attempted
to limit Ms. Sands' access
590
00:30:36,554 --> 00:30:38,283
to that kind of information
591
00:30:38,363 --> 00:30:42,490
after they saw
her hundreds of messages
on the website
592
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:47,656
about the Devil and angels
and death and doom and blood?
593
00:30:47,896 --> 00:30:52,622
No. In fact Mr. Leary
made a point of sending
private e-mails to Ms. Sands
594
00:30:52,692 --> 00:30:55,181
alerting her whenever
new information was posted.
595
00:30:55,261 --> 00:30:56,360
Really?
596
00:30:58,069 --> 00:31:00,857
To your knowledge, Detective,
was Mr. Leary aware
597
00:31:00,936 --> 00:31:02,865
of Ms. Sands'
delusional condition?
598
00:31:03,065 --> 00:31:05,553
Yes. When we executed
the warrant,
599
00:31:05,933 --> 00:31:09,091
I asked him if he knew
Ms. Sands, and he said,
600
00:31:09,171 --> 00:31:13,687
"The lady whose kid wasn't
killed by a taxi? Yeah."
601
00:31:14,007 --> 00:31:16,236
So he knew
she was delusional?
602
00:31:16,665 --> 00:31:18,664
That's what he said, yes.
603
00:31:19,773 --> 00:31:20,832
Thank you.
604
00:31:26,538 --> 00:31:28,197
You don't like
Mr. Leary, do you?
605
00:31:28,577 --> 00:31:31,135
I don't like him
or not like him.
606
00:31:31,205 --> 00:31:33,533
When he objected to your
investigation of his website,
607
00:31:33,603 --> 00:31:38,170
didn't he organize people
to call you and accuse you
of being fat and a Nazi?
608
00:31:39,079 --> 00:31:41,268
Those people never said
who told them to call.
609
00:31:41,378 --> 00:31:45,035
So you didn't know that
your phone number was listed
on Mr. Leary's website?
610
00:31:45,415 --> 00:31:46,464
I knew.
611
00:31:46,544 --> 00:31:48,632
When you served the warrant
for his computers,
612
00:31:48,712 --> 00:31:50,841
didn't you complain
that he had been
harassing you?
613
00:31:51,111 --> 00:31:52,340
I might have mentioned that.
614
00:31:52,410 --> 00:31:55,008
Did you or didn't you
accuse him of harassing you?
615
00:31:55,078 --> 00:31:56,976
I did, and he was.
616
00:31:57,046 --> 00:32:00,204
So now you're telling us
that this man who was
harassing you
617
00:32:00,284 --> 00:32:04,841
told you, and only you,
that he knew Ms. Sands
was delusional.
618
00:32:04,921 --> 00:32:05,940
Yes.
619
00:32:06,020 --> 00:32:09,148
Aren't you making that up
because it makes him look like
he was guilty of something?
620
00:32:09,687 --> 00:32:10,707
No.
621
00:32:10,787 --> 00:32:13,145
Because you want to
get back at the man
who was harassing you?
622
00:32:13,215 --> 00:32:14,314
No.
623
00:32:14,384 --> 00:32:16,013
You're not lying?
624
00:32:16,383 --> 00:32:17,442
No.
625
00:32:17,552 --> 00:32:18,541
Really?
626
00:32:24,127 --> 00:32:26,415
Detective Bernard,
can you tell us
who's in this picture?
627
00:32:26,485 --> 00:32:28,154
I have a copy
for the District Attorney.
628
00:32:39,796 --> 00:32:41,025
Where did you get this?
629
00:32:41,095 --> 00:32:44,393
Online, posted by
a classmate of yours
from the police academy
630
00:32:44,463 --> 00:32:46,821
at some kind of
graduation celebration.
631
00:32:46,891 --> 00:32:48,120
That is you in
the picture, isn't it?
632
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,749
Objection. What is
the relevance of this?
633
00:32:49,829 --> 00:32:52,817
It goes to the credibility
of this witness, which will
become apparent very soon.
634
00:32:52,897 --> 00:32:54,925
It had better. Proceed.
635
00:32:55,365 --> 00:32:58,193
Thank you. Detective,
who is the young woman
in the picture?
636
00:33:01,530 --> 00:33:03,059
Her name is Rosemary.
637
00:33:03,129 --> 00:33:04,598
Rosemary Franklin.
Is that correct?
638
00:33:05,198 --> 00:33:06,327
Yes.
639
00:33:07,736 --> 00:33:09,395
Did you and she have
a child together?
640
00:33:16,140 --> 00:33:17,299
Yes.
641
00:33:18,438 --> 00:33:20,667
And did you sign
a child support
agreement with her
642
00:33:20,737 --> 00:33:21,796
before the baby was born?
643
00:33:21,876 --> 00:33:23,894
Well, you know everything.
Why ask me?
644
00:33:24,544 --> 00:33:25,903
Your Honor...
645
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:31,699
Yes.
646
00:33:31,779 --> 00:33:34,267
Did you sign an agreement
promising to pay Ms. Franklin
647
00:33:34,377 --> 00:33:36,465
500 dollars a month
to support that child?
648
00:33:37,974 --> 00:33:40,842
And did you fail to send
that money three times
in the first six months?
649
00:33:41,212 --> 00:33:42,941
There was a question
about paternity.
650
00:33:43,011 --> 00:33:45,309
Did you promise to pay
and then fail to do so?
651
00:33:49,516 --> 00:33:52,704
If you lied to the mother
of your child about
supporting your son,
652
00:33:53,483 --> 00:33:55,672
why should we believe
anything you say to us now?
653
00:34:04,715 --> 00:34:06,304
You couldn't do
something to stop that?
654
00:34:06,384 --> 00:34:07,683
No, no, I couldn't.
655
00:34:07,753 --> 00:34:09,052
Hey, you have a kid?
656
00:34:09,122 --> 00:34:11,610
I'd just finished
the academy, all right?
I busted loose a little.
657
00:34:11,690 --> 00:34:13,309
There were some
cop groupies at a bar.
658
00:34:13,389 --> 00:34:15,907
Once the blood test came back,
I paid every month.
659
00:34:16,057 --> 00:34:18,815
Look, we'll bring
that out on redirect.
We have to recoup.
660
00:34:18,885 --> 00:34:20,084
I don't want to
talk about it.
661
00:34:22,722 --> 00:34:24,951
Hey. Hey!
662
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,548
How much trash did
you people have to
sort through to dig this up?
663
00:34:28,628 --> 00:34:31,316
The photo, the agreement,
the violations, it's all
on the Internet.
664
00:34:31,396 --> 00:34:32,416
You just gotta know
how to look.
665
00:34:32,495 --> 00:34:34,454
Yeah, so this is how
you defend yourself, huh?
666
00:34:34,524 --> 00:34:35,753
Dragging people
through the mud?
667
00:34:35,823 --> 00:34:37,382
He's a 10-year-old boy.
668
00:34:37,492 --> 00:34:38,551
Come on, B.
No, no, no!
669
00:34:38,631 --> 00:34:40,919
You want to play dirty, huh?
You want to get personal?
670
00:34:40,999 --> 00:34:42,219
Detective!
671
00:34:55,369 --> 00:34:57,298
That didn't help.
What do you expect?
672
00:34:57,368 --> 00:35:00,026
That a thin-skinned cop
doesn't destroy my case.
673
00:35:00,096 --> 00:35:02,224
Mike...
Look, do you realize
674
00:35:02,304 --> 00:35:03,923
how much his testimony
is worth right now?
675
00:35:04,003 --> 00:35:08,460
All right. Listen, Leary
told him he knew about
Kerry Sands and her daughter.
676
00:35:08,540 --> 00:35:09,969
Yes, but who's
going to believe it?
677
00:35:10,039 --> 00:35:11,438
I do. You do.
678
00:35:11,508 --> 00:35:14,565
All we have to do
is find out how Leary knew
the woman is nuts.
679
00:35:14,635 --> 00:35:17,573
We get that into evidence,
it won't matter what he did
or didn't say to Bernard.
680
00:35:17,643 --> 00:35:19,692
Okay, okay, but Leary's
not going to tell us,
681
00:35:19,772 --> 00:35:21,670
and Kerry Sands
is in cuckoo-land.
682
00:35:21,740 --> 00:35:23,399
So how are we
going to find out?
683
00:35:23,469 --> 00:35:27,566
There's got to be a record
somewhere, a meeting,
a conversation, an e-mail...
684
00:35:27,646 --> 00:35:30,874
Something somewhere.
Pretty big haystack.
685
00:35:34,741 --> 00:35:37,139
He was texting
on the FDR Drive
686
00:35:37,209 --> 00:35:40,177
and almost ran a car
with three kids in it
off the road.
687
00:35:40,447 --> 00:35:41,936
One of our members
analyzed the photo
688
00:35:42,016 --> 00:35:44,914
and determined it was
going 73 miles per hour
at the time.
689
00:35:45,443 --> 00:35:47,642
Sid Maxwell deserved
to be exposed.
690
00:35:48,511 --> 00:35:52,448
The point was to get him
to change his ways
before he killed someone.
691
00:35:52,778 --> 00:35:54,437
But not to kill him?
692
00:35:54,517 --> 00:35:56,705
We're not murderers.
693
00:35:56,785 --> 00:35:58,684
We spend our days
in front of computers.
694
00:35:58,754 --> 00:36:00,942
We're just a bunch
of well-meaning nerds
695
00:36:01,022 --> 00:36:02,811
who want to make
this city a better place.
696
00:36:02,881 --> 00:36:03,940
Thank you.
697
00:36:06,249 --> 00:36:09,306
So, you and your colleagues
don't get out much?
698
00:36:10,685 --> 00:36:14,283
Then why did you
post Mr. Maxwell's
address on your site?
699
00:36:14,922 --> 00:36:16,611
In case somebody wanted
to write him a letter.
700
00:36:16,691 --> 00:36:19,589
And the code
to his building's door?
701
00:36:20,189 --> 00:36:24,026
From your website,
"In case anybody wants to
702
00:36:24,096 --> 00:36:27,254
"drop by and teach
this jerk some manners."
703
00:36:28,063 --> 00:36:29,922
Some people
feel very strongly
704
00:36:29,992 --> 00:36:31,890
about people
like Sid Maxwell.
705
00:36:32,230 --> 00:36:34,189
There was a woman in China
who crushed a...
706
00:36:34,259 --> 00:36:38,056
I know, crushed a kitten.
So emotions run high?
707
00:36:38,126 --> 00:36:39,255
They can.
708
00:36:40,194 --> 00:36:43,162
Sometimes people want
to confront people
like that in person.
709
00:36:43,292 --> 00:36:45,890
Sometimes that's
the only way people like
that get the message.
710
00:36:46,030 --> 00:36:48,229
"People like that,"
including Sid Maxwell?
711
00:36:48,299 --> 00:36:50,127
Yes. But that
doesn't mean that I,
712
00:36:50,197 --> 00:36:52,136
or anyone else
on FlashPosse.net,
713
00:36:52,196 --> 00:36:53,665
thought he'd be
physically harmed.
714
00:36:53,735 --> 00:36:56,992
Not even by Kerry Sands,
who posted
715
00:36:57,062 --> 00:37:02,329
400 messages about revenge
and the Devil and death?
716
00:37:03,598 --> 00:37:05,936
Have you ever read
the Internet, Mr. Cutter?
717
00:37:06,006 --> 00:37:09,593
It's full of
ranting and raving
and exaggerated threats.
718
00:37:09,703 --> 00:37:12,261
Everyone says everyone else
should drop dead.
719
00:37:13,441 --> 00:37:15,099
It's just a place
for letting off steam.
720
00:37:15,169 --> 00:37:18,507
So you thought Kerry Sands
was just letting off
harmless steam?
721
00:37:18,637 --> 00:37:20,106
She and 50 million
other people.
722
00:37:20,805 --> 00:37:24,763
Even though you knew
she was living in the midst
of a psychotic delusion.
723
00:37:24,872 --> 00:37:27,900
I didn't know that.
You told Detective Bernard.
724
00:37:27,980 --> 00:37:31,038
I never told him that.
I couldn't have,
I didn't know it.
725
00:37:39,482 --> 00:37:40,841
It's from Lupo.
726
00:37:46,817 --> 00:37:47,976
Mr. Leary,
727
00:37:50,654 --> 00:37:53,052
were you with Kerry Sands
last August 20th
728
00:37:53,112 --> 00:37:55,411
when she physically
assaulted a cab driver
729
00:37:55,481 --> 00:38:00,077
who she accused of being
the evil spawn of Satan?
730
00:38:00,347 --> 00:38:03,045
Your Honor, this is
the first we've heard of
any such alleged incident.
731
00:38:03,115 --> 00:38:06,053
If the People have
some supposed evidence,
I'd like to see it.
732
00:38:06,123 --> 00:38:08,591
New information has just
come to our attention.
733
00:38:08,651 --> 00:38:12,209
Then share it
with the defense.
We'll recess until tomorrow.
734
00:38:17,325 --> 00:38:20,413
Now, we knew
Kerry Sands had a thing
for cab drivers, right?
735
00:38:20,523 --> 00:38:21,992
Well, there are cabs
around all the time,
736
00:38:22,062 --> 00:38:24,020
so I figured she might have
had some interaction.
737
00:38:24,090 --> 00:38:26,419
It was just a matter
of checking drivers' logs.
738
00:38:26,488 --> 00:38:28,787
There are 13,000 taxis
in New York City.
739
00:38:28,857 --> 00:38:30,685
All right. So it was
kind of labor-intensive.
740
00:38:30,765 --> 00:38:34,383
Now there were 209 that
reported violent behavior
by women in the last year.
741
00:38:34,463 --> 00:38:38,260
102 of those were
on the street in range of ATM
or other security cameras.
742
00:38:38,330 --> 00:38:40,798
That's hundreds of cameras,
all on different systems.
743
00:38:40,868 --> 00:38:42,387
Right. So,
744
00:38:43,426 --> 00:38:47,693
here's a camera still
of Kerry Sands assaulting
a driver on 42nd Street.
745
00:38:48,133 --> 00:38:49,192
I talked to the driver.
746
00:38:49,262 --> 00:38:52,530
He said she was screaming
that the Devil told him
to murder her daughter.
747
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,538
And to find him,
you searched
13,000 taxi logs,
748
00:38:55,598 --> 00:38:58,566
and then every
security camera
near 209 incidents?
749
00:38:59,135 --> 00:39:02,263
Sort of. The driver
also told me there was
a man with Kerry Sands.
750
00:39:02,333 --> 00:39:05,601
He walked away after
she started getting violent.
This is him, right here.
751
00:39:05,970 --> 00:39:07,939
Well, all I can see is
the back of his head.
752
00:39:08,009 --> 00:39:10,197
You see the reflection
in the store window there?
753
00:39:11,107 --> 00:39:13,905
With the right
software, boom.
754
00:39:14,344 --> 00:39:15,504
Leary.
755
00:39:18,312 --> 00:39:22,169
Did you have a subpoena
for the cameras,
for any of this?
756
00:39:22,479 --> 00:39:24,237
I'm not the one
who got them.
757
00:39:24,647 --> 00:39:27,475
This took
a few thousand people
working around the clock.
758
00:39:27,615 --> 00:39:28,974
The entire NYPD?
759
00:39:29,044 --> 00:39:32,242
Chinese people,
a "human flesh search engine."
760
00:39:32,641 --> 00:39:35,239
I have a friend
in the Shanghai PD
from my days in Intel.
761
00:39:35,309 --> 00:39:37,338
I told him
a cop needed a hand.
762
00:39:37,918 --> 00:39:39,636
Fire with fire.
763
00:39:39,716 --> 00:39:41,975
Our Internet posse
against Leary's.
764
00:39:42,045 --> 00:39:45,772
And none of these came
from Leary's home or office.
765
00:39:45,852 --> 00:39:46,941
It's admissible.
766
00:39:52,087 --> 00:39:54,915
Mr. Leary, can you
tell us what's happening
in this picture?
767
00:39:54,985 --> 00:39:56,174
Your Honor,
may we approach?
768
00:40:02,420 --> 00:40:04,618
We're still not satisfied
as to the origin
of this material.
769
00:40:04,688 --> 00:40:06,087
It came from
a lamppost security camera.
770
00:40:06,157 --> 00:40:08,646
Where did the state get it?
There's no record of
any process being served.
771
00:40:08,726 --> 00:40:09,775
It doesn't matter.
772
00:40:09,855 --> 00:40:13,052
Mr. Leary has no expectation
of privacy in the middle
of 42nd Street.
773
00:40:13,122 --> 00:40:16,680
Even if he didn't,
there's no context to explain
what's happening here.
774
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,049
I'll ask him to explain.
775
00:40:18,129 --> 00:40:21,456
And if he can't remember,
then we'll bring in
the taxi driver.
776
00:40:22,626 --> 00:40:26,223
That works, Mr. Margolis.
Mr. Cutter, you may proceed.
777
00:40:27,832 --> 00:40:30,420
You told us yesterday,
Mr. Leary,
778
00:40:30,490 --> 00:40:35,796
that you had no idea
Kerry Sands was
violent or delusional.
779
00:40:38,434 --> 00:40:40,763
Doesn't this picture show us
that you did know?
780
00:40:42,032 --> 00:40:43,091
That's arguable.
781
00:40:45,329 --> 00:40:48,787
It was a crazy,
violent outburst,
782
00:40:49,137 --> 00:40:51,095
right in front of your face.
783
00:40:51,605 --> 00:40:55,052
But you still kept goading
her to go after Sid Maxwell.
784
00:41:07,843 --> 00:41:09,532
I never told her
to kill anybody.
785
00:41:11,071 --> 00:41:13,909
The woman was
dangerously out of control.
786
00:41:13,969 --> 00:41:18,426
What did you expect?
What did you
reasonably expect?
787
00:41:27,479 --> 00:41:29,168
Yup. All right.
788
00:41:30,747 --> 00:41:33,375
That was Cutter.
Leary and the others
took pleas.
789
00:41:33,445 --> 00:41:35,074
They're going away
for manslaughter.
790
00:41:36,413 --> 00:41:37,542
Good.
791
00:41:37,612 --> 00:41:39,041
Thank you.
792
00:41:45,716 --> 00:41:48,804
You know,
if we'd have known...
793
00:41:50,513 --> 00:41:53,880
I mean, I would have
put myself out there
as the target.
794
00:41:57,348 --> 00:41:59,347
I never thought
they would dig that up.
795
00:42:02,624 --> 00:42:03,644
How is the kid?
796
00:42:06,252 --> 00:42:07,781
His mother and I...
797
00:42:08,790 --> 00:42:11,378
She ended up marrying
her actual boyfriend.
798
00:42:12,387 --> 00:42:14,915
We both decided
that it would be better,
799
00:42:15,455 --> 00:42:17,723
less confusing,
if I didn't see him.
800
00:42:21,191 --> 00:42:23,220
I guess I could
look him up on the Internet.
64604
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