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In the criminal justice system
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the people are representedby two separateyet equally important groups,
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the police
who investigate crime
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and the district attorneys
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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This is crazy.
You can't leave.
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I can't stay.
Even with the work-study,
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I won't make my next
tuition installment.
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Taxi!
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I'll get you
the money, okay?
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I got something
big lined up.
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Don't worry about me.
Just take care of yourself.
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Excuse me,
you spare something?
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Beat it!
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Everything's going
to be all right.
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I love you.
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Call me, okay?
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You a Marine?
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Yeah.
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Here, take it all.
You serious?
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Yeah.
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Thanks, buddy.
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God bless.
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Two in the chest.
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Student biking through
the alley heard the shots
around 21:10.
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Patrol got here quick.
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Faculty parking garage.
Not exactly ground zero
for gun crime.
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You secure the area?
First thing.
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No ins or outs till
you release the scene.
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No wallet or ID,
but we've got
a dormitory keycard.
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Let's see what else he's got.
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Looks like he was
a business major.
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Yeah, minoring
in herbology.
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Looks like the
campus dope dealer.
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Mark his report card "D"
for deceased.
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Dealers. Good riddance.
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There's a bunch of
Latinos over on 125th,
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my guys keep them
off campus.
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We're going to need
the security videos
for the garage.
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Uh, there's only
one camera.
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It covers the exit.
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But the rains this summer
knocked it out of commission.
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Okay, we'll need a list of all
the faculty who park there.
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That I got.
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Okay, it's ready.
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And your John Doe is...
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Hayley Kozlow.
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It's Greg. Greg Tanner.
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He's been crashing here.
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I can't believe this.
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How do you know him?
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We met at the cafeteria.
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He's not a student
or anything. He said he had
a sister here.
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He was mature and nice.
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Really nice.
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His duffel bag
is military issue.
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- Was he in the service?
- Yeah.
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Um, Greg said he had
nightmares from it.
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But we didn't talk much,
you know?
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You talk about this?
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Oh, my God. If I knew about
that, I swear, he would've
been gone.
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Was anyone
giving him trouble?
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I don't know.
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Last Saturday, I saw him
outside of Rocco's.
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He was getting into it
with some Hispanic guy,
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but Greg said it was nothing.
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We got a winner.
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Wait here.
Hey.
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The M.E.'s confirming that
there's no stippling
or powder burns on Tanner,
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so figure he was shot from
at least three feet away.
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Mmm-hmm.
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There's a young woman
downstairs, just in
from Pittsburgh,
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looks very upset.
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That's the sister of our
campus dealer.
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Do we have any
progress
to report to her?
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Uh, a witness picked out
this guy as someone Tanner
was having a beef with.
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Manny Lopez, works with
a drug crew on 125th.
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So maybe this was a turf
dispute.
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Well, slugs came back
to a.22, but they're
fragmented.
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Even if we do find a weapon,
matching ballistics
will be iffy.
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All right. Let's go talk
to Ms. Tanner.
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Oh, my God, my big brother.
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When was the last time
you saw him?
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It was two days ago.
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I had to leave school.
My financial aid fell through.
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Greg said not to go,
that he'd help me.
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Megan, how did
he end up living
on campus?
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It was because of me.
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After he got out
of the service, he had
no place else to go.
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My mom's at a home
in Pittsburgh.
She's got Parkinson's.
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Dad died when I was 10.
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Greg joined the Marines
so he could be like him.
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Here.
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He never said where
they sent him,
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but me and my mom
would get e-mails,
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a phone call at Christmas.
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Then he showed up at my dorm
one day. He'd been discharged.
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But he didn't come back
the same guy.
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How was he different?
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He got anxious a lot.
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He needed help, but I think
he was having problems getting
his Army benefits.
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Megan, do you know
what your brother was doing
on campus?
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I think auditing classes.
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I didn't see him much
the last few weeks.
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Why?
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We believe
he was dealing drugs.
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Oh, God.
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Greg.
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He met this girl.
I wanted to give him space.
I should've...
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Oh, my God, I lost him.
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Excuse me.
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The last time you saw
your brother,
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what did the two of you
talk about?
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He said he'd get me money
for school.
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That he was working
on something big.
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The woman
has seen it all.
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Now one tale of woe
and she suddenly goes soft?
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You know,
if she hears you
talking like this,
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you're gonna be
eating through a straw.
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Now, that's the Lieutenant
I know.
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The something big the sister
mentioned could have been
a drug score,
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could be how Tanner
got himself into a beef
with the competition.
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So they ambush him
in the faculty garage?
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Or maybe they followed
him there?
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Eh, could be
he was meeting a client.
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Professor Pothead.
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Take this guy, for example,
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a law professor by the name
of Kevin Franklin.
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In the garage every day
at 1:00, out by 9:15,
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except the day
that Tanner's killed.
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Yeah?
Franklin breaks his pattern,
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leaves his car in the garage
overnight, drives it out the
next day at noon.
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He looks
vaguely familiar.
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I might've seen him
around campus.
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How about the faculty
garage Wednesday night?
Say, around 9:00?
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I wasn't in the garage
Wednesday.
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If you'll excuse me,
I have a class of
law students waiting.
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Actually,
we have a few more questions.
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You'll have to call me later.
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Not so fast, Professor.
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We believe that you were
in that garage,
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maybe to do a little business
with Mr. Tanner.
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Business?
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Score a little pot for your
weekend barbecue.
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Are you kidding me?
I used to work for
the Department of Justice.
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Look, we don't care if you
like the occasional joint.
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Well, I don't.
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And if I saw something,
I assure you, I know
my obligations.
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But I wasn't in the garage.
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Then tell us why you left
your car there overnight
Wednesday.
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I finished teaching my class
around 9:00.
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I went to Wordplay
on Amsterdam to buy a book.
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What book?
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John Rawls'
Theory of Justice,
the new annotated edition.
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You buy it?
No. There was a line
at the cashier,
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so I walked back
to the garage. But the police
had already sealed it off.
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What time was this?
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Just after 9:30, I guess.
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My wife was waiting up,
so I got a cab
to Grand Central
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and caught the last
Metro-North to Hastings.
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Right, the new Rawls edition
came in last week.
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What kind of traffic
did you have at the register
Wednesday night?
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Traffic? You're joking, right?
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This place is dead
after dinner.
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Dead. Great.
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Hey, just ran Kevin Franklin
through the system.
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He was arrested in Hastings
last year,
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get this, on a CPW.
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A CPW. How sweet is that?
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Mr. Franklin got into
a fender-bender on North
Street with a Max Epstein.
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And the CPW?
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Epstein claimed Franklin
flashed a weapon.
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That was an exaggeration,
but Franklin was carrying
a piece in a hip holster.
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He said he had a carry permit,
but he couldn't produce it,
so the officer took him in.
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- Did he have a permit?
- Turns out he did.
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Full carry for Westchester,
and a special permit
for New York City.
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The charge was dropped.
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What kind of weapon
did he have?
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.22 caliber
Smith & Wesson.
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Sweeter and sweeter.
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Franklin's alibi
doesn't hold up.
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Plus, he got his
timeline wrong.
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Yeah, Franklin said
he couldn't get
his car at 9:30
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because the garage
was sealed off,
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but the first unit
wasn't on the scene
until 9:45.
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So tell me why
he killed Greg Tanner.
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Money. Greg told his sister
he was working on
something big.
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Our guess is he tried his hand
at blackmail.
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Franklin's
a tenure-track
assistant professor of law.
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Comes out he's buying pot,
he's got a lot to lose.
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Academic post, law license...
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None of which adds up
to probable cause
for a warrant for his gun.
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We can always say, "Pretty
please with a cherry on top."
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Call me when you have
some PC.
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Look,
you guys need to tie
Franklin to Tanner.
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Calls, meetings,
evidence of bad blood...
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I have to take this.
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Look, this case won't clear
itself with you guys sitting
on your ass.
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Hey.
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I never heard Greg mention
a Professor Franklin.
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Conflict of Laws.Civil Rights.
You want to be a lawyer?
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Those are Greg's.
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Is there anything else up
there that belongs to him?
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That folder's not mine.
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Hey, I gotta go
to a spin class, okay?
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Just don't mess with my stuff.
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Got you. Have fun spinning.
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Oh...
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Look at this.
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Course syllabus
for Franklin's
Con Law classes.
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And this.
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I need your help with the VA.
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If you'll just go on record.
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I don't know
what you're talking about.
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I can't do thiswithout you.Please. You owe me.
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Get that thing
out of my face.
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That bad blood
seems to be about
the Veterans' Administration.
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Tanner's sister said
he was having trouble
getting benefits.
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Sergeant Tanner
received counseling
for 30 days, post-discharge.
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After that, his temporary
benefits lapsed.
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What was the
counseling for?
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Come on, you know
I can't get into that.
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How about what type
of discharge he got?
That's not classified.
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He got a 513 discharge,
separation from service
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due to a pre-existing
personality disorder.
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Pre-existing, meaning whatever
was wrong with him wasn't
service-connected.
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Meaning the military's
not on the hook
for his long-term care.
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That's how it works.
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Oh, man. A guy humps
it for his country
for eight years,
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he comes home,
and then Uncle Sam
just kicks him to the curb.
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Does that seem fair, Doc?
No.
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Not for a soldier
who acquired post-traumatic
stress disorder
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from doing guard duty
at Abu Ghraib.
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Greg was guarding terrorists?
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He said what he saw
kept him up nights.
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From the stuff that Tanner
has underlined, looks like
he was preparing a lawsuit
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to have his benefits
reinstated.
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And he wanted Franklin
to represent him?
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Can I get your attention?
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Please.
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Uh...
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Listen, last week,
I was diagnosed with cancer.
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It's manageable,
but I have to start treatment
immediately.
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I'm telling you this because
I'll be coming and going
more than usual,
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and I don't want
any tongues wagging.
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Oh, and before I forget,
the Chief of Ds is coming
down hard on the fives,
247
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or should I say
the lack of them.
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You're all big boys and girls,
so get them done on time.
249
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Uh, Lieu?
250
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Yeah, what you got?
251
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It looks like Tanner
was after Franklin
252
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to help him sue
the government over
his veteran benefits.
253
00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,100
Except Franklin's
a constitutional scholar,
not a benefits expert.
254
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Well, talk to some
of Franklin's colleagues,
see what they know.
255
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Hey, Lieu?
Yeah?
256
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Sorry.
257
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Yeah.
258
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Professor Franklin
never mentioned a Greg Tanner.
259
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I highly doubt that he'd have
anything to do with a drug
dealer.
260
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He's wound tighter
than a Swiss watch.
261
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He sounds pretty tough
to get along with.
262
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He's very competitive.
263
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We're both up for tenure,
except I don't have his fancy
government pedigree.
264
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Not that I'm suggesting
that he's unqualified,
mind you.
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Just that he's very
well-connected.
266
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He must be.
267
00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,200
Not too many law
professors carry permits
for handguns.
268
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That's because of the work
he did for the Department
of Justice.
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What kind of work,
drug enforcement?
270
00:13:38,610 --> 00:13:39,740
No. All I can tell you
271
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is that a number of Bush
administration documents
272
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have recently
been declassified,
273
00:13:44,420 --> 00:13:46,440
including a few memos
that Franklin wrote.
274
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And you didn't hear
it from me.
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"Techniques That May Be Used
in Interrogation of High-value
Al-Qaeda Detainees."
276
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Now there's a sexy title.
277
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These de-classified documents
are all about handling
terrorist suspects.
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This one says
279
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the President can send
the Army into American
neighborhoods to make arrests.
280
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Now here's one
that Franklin wrote.
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"Legal Standards
Governing the Detention
and Interrogation
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"of Unlawful Enemy
Combatants,"
283
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the entire playbook
for GITMO and Abu Ghraib.
284
00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,450
The playbook that set
the working conditions
for guards like Tanner,
285
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the conditions that caused
his post-traumatic stress.
286
00:14:25,890 --> 00:14:27,160
Tanner might have seen
it that way.
287
00:14:27,430 --> 00:14:29,950
And blame Franklin.
He said Franklin owed him,
288
00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,030
maybe this was the payday
Tanner was talking about,
289
00:14:32,100 --> 00:14:34,330
money from Franklin
for his pain and suffering.
290
00:14:34,740 --> 00:14:35,860
There's your bad blood.
291
00:14:36,070 --> 00:14:37,730
And our probable cause
for a search.
292
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Let's go.
293
00:14:40,210 --> 00:14:42,610
Connie, I think we've got
our PC on Franklin.
294
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You guys are about five
minutes late.
295
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Come on in, Detectives.
296
00:14:46,980 --> 00:14:50,140
Professor Franklin
here just confessed
to shooting Greg Tanner.
297
00:14:50,620 --> 00:14:52,020
He even brought the gun.
298
00:14:52,090 --> 00:14:53,950
Professor Franklin
was being stalked
299
00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,760
by a mentally disturbed
lunatic who had accosted
him in a stairwell.
300
00:14:57,990 --> 00:15:00,120
If this office intends
to file charges,
301
00:15:00,290 --> 00:15:02,630
my client will be arguing
self-defense.
302
00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,260
Of myself and my country.
303
00:15:12,910 --> 00:15:14,000
A plea?
304
00:15:14,070 --> 00:15:17,270
First, you push for a million
in bail, and now you expect
us to take a plea?
305
00:15:17,710 --> 00:15:19,010
We're here as a courtesy,
306
00:15:19,450 --> 00:15:22,710
to give you a chance to drop
this charge before we publicly
embarrass you.
307
00:15:23,050 --> 00:15:25,990
He shot an unarmed war veteran
from three feet away,
308
00:15:26,050 --> 00:15:27,880
and we're the ones
who're supposed
to be embarrassed?
309
00:15:27,990 --> 00:15:31,010
He shot a trained killer
who blamed him
for his mental problems,
310
00:15:31,090 --> 00:15:34,030
demanded money
and then threatened him
when he said no.
311
00:15:34,430 --> 00:15:36,090
It's a perfect case
of self-defense,
312
00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,790
except for the running away,
the lying.
313
00:15:38,870 --> 00:15:41,530
All of which evinces
a consciousness of guilt.
314
00:15:42,370 --> 00:15:43,890
Now he can plead
to manslaughter one
315
00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,910
or starting tomorrow
a grand jury will hear
all about his deceptions.
316
00:15:47,070 --> 00:15:48,170
No, they won't.
317
00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,070
What's that?
A writ of prohibition,
318
00:15:53,980 --> 00:15:57,380
to exclude all statements
my client made to the police
319
00:15:57,650 --> 00:16:00,710
on the grounds that
their interview with him
was custodial
320
00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:02,980
and he should've been
Mirandized.
321
00:16:07,490 --> 00:16:08,690
The judge threw it all out,
322
00:16:08,860 --> 00:16:11,490
his phony alibi, his claims
of not knowing Tanner.
323
00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,460
I mean, in short everything
that makes him look guilty.
324
00:16:13,530 --> 00:16:17,160
I can count on the fingers
of one hand the times
I've seen a writ used
325
00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,100
to keep evidence out
of the grand jury.
326
00:16:19,410 --> 00:16:22,640
Not just any writ, but one
Franklin dashed off during
a plea conference,
327
00:16:22,710 --> 00:16:25,370
complete with citations,
brilliant.
328
00:16:27,310 --> 00:16:29,870
Any evidence he killed Tanner
for reasons other
than self-defense?
329
00:16:29,950 --> 00:16:34,110
Nothing. The only one
who'd know is Tanner and,
well, he's not talking.
330
00:16:34,190 --> 00:16:37,160
Thanks.
Oh, it's from Franklin.
331
00:16:39,660 --> 00:16:41,860
He's asserting his right
to address the grand jury.
332
00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,130
Sure. First get rid
of as many inconvenient facts
as possible,
333
00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,070
and then spin what's left into
a self-serving tale.
334
00:16:48,270 --> 00:16:51,170
The law-abiding professor
versus the deranged
drug dealer.
335
00:16:51,910 --> 00:16:53,130
Spin it the other way.
336
00:16:53,310 --> 00:16:55,900
Make Greg Tanner as cuddly
as a week-old puppy.
337
00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,010
Greg was smart.
338
00:17:02,780 --> 00:17:03,770
People liked him.
339
00:17:06,020 --> 00:17:08,050
He believed in serving
the greater good.
340
00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,880
But when he was over
there, in the war,
341
00:17:14,060 --> 00:17:15,290
something inside him broke.
342
00:17:15,660 --> 00:17:18,100
He suffered from
post-traumatic stress.
343
00:17:18,230 --> 00:17:19,820
That's what a psychiatrist
told him.
344
00:17:20,500 --> 00:17:21,800
He worked in the prisons,
345
00:17:22,500 --> 00:17:24,030
he saw interrogations,
346
00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,070
people being hurt,
being hanged in a shower room.
347
00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,300
He had nightmares.
He couldn't keep a job.
348
00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,780
Mr. Tanner approached me
one night after class.
349
00:17:36,150 --> 00:17:38,910
He told me about his grievance
over his military discharge.
350
00:17:39,450 --> 00:17:42,050
He wanted my help suing
to have his benefits
reinstated.
351
00:17:42,790 --> 00:17:44,950
He thought
because I worked for the
Department of Justice
352
00:17:45,030 --> 00:17:47,930
under the Bush administration,
that I had some special
expertise.
353
00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,960
What work specifically
did you do?
354
00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:51,890
I wrote advisory memos
355
00:17:52,030 --> 00:17:54,630
governing the manner
in which suspected
terrorists were held.
356
00:17:55,170 --> 00:17:57,900
Because Mr. Tanner
guarded those detainees,
357
00:17:57,970 --> 00:18:00,240
he thought I had insights
into the conditions
358
00:18:00,310 --> 00:18:02,170
that had caused
his post-traumatic stress.
359
00:18:02,510 --> 00:18:06,210
I told him he needed
a specialist in health care
litigation.
360
00:18:06,510 --> 00:18:08,880
I thought that that
was the end of it,
but a week later,
361
00:18:09,050 --> 00:18:10,540
he confronted me
at the garage.
362
00:18:10,780 --> 00:18:12,580
He was agitated,
he demanded money.
363
00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,450
He said that I was responsible
for his mental problems.
364
00:18:17,060 --> 00:18:20,220
I tried to reason with him,
but he wouldn't let me leave.
365
00:18:20,430 --> 00:18:22,490
I was trapped by
this deranged ex-soldier.
366
00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,330
Did he actually threaten
to kill you?
367
00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,700
I was in fear for my life.
He kept saying,
368
00:18:27,770 --> 00:18:28,830
"You're not leaving."
369
00:18:28,900 --> 00:18:30,840
And then he started
toward me and...
370
00:18:31,170 --> 00:18:32,160
That's...
371
00:18:33,070 --> 00:18:34,060
That's when I shot him.
372
00:18:35,510 --> 00:18:36,700
He fell,
373
00:18:36,780 --> 00:18:37,770
he stopped moving.
374
00:18:38,050 --> 00:18:40,040
What did you do then?
Did you call the police?
375
00:18:40,110 --> 00:18:41,140
Somebody else did.
376
00:18:41,220 --> 00:18:43,840
I wish that I had had
the presence of mind
to stay calm,
377
00:18:44,220 --> 00:18:45,380
but I was in shock.
378
00:18:45,450 --> 00:18:48,790
And it took you four days
to regain your composure
379
00:18:48,860 --> 00:18:50,520
and turn yourself
in to the police?
380
00:18:50,790 --> 00:18:54,160
No. I was in contact
with the police before
the formality of my surrender.
381
00:18:54,260 --> 00:18:57,460
You were "in contact"?
Please describe
those contacts.
382
00:18:57,870 --> 00:18:59,920
Mr. Cutter, I would
be happy to tell
the grand jury
383
00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,760
what I discussed
with the police,
but there's a judicial writ
384
00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:03,830
prohibiting me from doing so
385
00:19:03,900 --> 00:19:06,370
because of the misbehavior
of your detectives.
386
00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,010
He cooperated from the get-go.
It's the police
who misbehaved.
387
00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:14,810
I let myself get bushwhacked.
388
00:19:15,150 --> 00:19:16,140
Twice.
389
00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:17,940
We got bushwhacked twice.
390
00:19:18,490 --> 00:19:19,880
Tanner's sister
told the police
391
00:19:19,990 --> 00:19:21,720
that he never talked to her
about his service in Iraq.
392
00:19:21,790 --> 00:19:25,090
But she testified that
he witnessed interrogations.
393
00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,220
She might've gotten that
from news reports on the case.
394
00:19:27,290 --> 00:19:30,490
No. She said he saw people
hanged in a shower room.
395
00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:31,890
That wasn't in the news.
396
00:19:34,970 --> 00:19:35,960
Thanks.
397
00:19:38,070 --> 00:19:40,700
No bill. The grand jury
bought Franklin's story.
398
00:19:41,070 --> 00:19:42,370
Next stop, Megan Tanner?
399
00:19:43,580 --> 00:19:46,410
I told the police the truth.
Greg never said anything
to me.
400
00:19:46,580 --> 00:19:48,640
Well, then where did you hear
about this shower room?
401
00:19:49,380 --> 00:19:52,050
My mom needs
to know that Greg
served with honor,
402
00:19:52,120 --> 00:19:53,450
like my dad.
403
00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:55,540
She's very sick
404
00:19:57,820 --> 00:19:59,490
and if she ever found out
that he did that,
405
00:20:01,030 --> 00:20:02,220
well, I don't think
she could take it.
406
00:20:02,500 --> 00:20:04,360
Why? What did he do?
407
00:20:10,340 --> 00:20:12,900
When Greg was living with me,
he made a video diary.
408
00:20:13,910 --> 00:20:15,930
I found it on my computer
after he died.
409
00:20:20,010 --> 00:20:22,210
We walked the detainee
into the shower room.
410
00:20:23,420 --> 00:20:25,940
He was handcuffedand he was wearing a hoodover his head.
411
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:28,950
The interrogator told us
to hang him
412
00:20:29,220 --> 00:20:31,780
by his wrists from the bars
of a window, like this,
413
00:20:32,660 --> 00:20:34,490
with his hands behind
his back, up high
414
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,830
so the guy can't kneel or sit,and all the weight is onhis arms and chest.
415
00:20:39,100 --> 00:20:40,230
The 'gator said the guy
416
00:20:40,630 --> 00:20:42,070
was an unlawful combatant
417
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,570
and under the rules, we could
do whatever we want with him.
418
00:20:46,140 --> 00:20:47,770
We hooked him up and
we left him with the 'gator.
419
00:20:50,210 --> 00:20:52,040
An hour later, the 'gator
called us back in.
420
00:20:52,110 --> 00:20:54,310
He wanted us to reposition
the detainee.
421
00:20:56,650 --> 00:20:57,910
The detainee was
slumped forward.
422
00:20:59,250 --> 00:21:01,810
His arms were almost outof their sockets,he wasn't responsive.
423
00:21:03,860 --> 00:21:05,220
Then we took the hood off
his head
424
00:21:06,890 --> 00:21:09,290
and all this blood poured out
of his mouth.
425
00:21:11,100 --> 00:21:12,090
He was...
426
00:21:12,930 --> 00:21:13,920
He was dead.
427
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:17,700
And those rules,
428
00:21:18,170 --> 00:21:20,300
those damn rules
were wrong.
429
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,500
We had to live by them
and it messed us up.
430
00:21:26,110 --> 00:21:29,170
I found one of the guyswho wrote the rules,here at the college.
431
00:21:31,420 --> 00:21:32,650
I got to get right with this.
432
00:21:35,020 --> 00:21:37,290
I didn't join the service
to murder people.
433
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:46,530
Can we confirm this story?
434
00:21:46,900 --> 00:21:49,770
Tanner was stationed
at Abu Ghraib in 2003,
435
00:21:49,970 --> 00:21:53,430
and there was a death that fit
his description in November
of that year.
436
00:21:53,510 --> 00:21:55,980
Yeah, he talks about other
interrogations he witnessed
437
00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:00,450
in Iraq and GITMO,
enhanced interrogations,
water-boardings,
438
00:22:00,650 --> 00:22:02,240
what all kept him up at night.
439
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,010
Maybe that's what was going
through Franklin's mind when
he shot Tanner.
440
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,380
Maybe he thought Tanner
was threatening to implicate
him in a death by torture.
441
00:22:08,460 --> 00:22:12,390
Franklin was bucking
for tenure. Controversy's
the last thing he wanted.
442
00:22:12,860 --> 00:22:14,450
He shot Tanner in a panic,
443
00:22:15,130 --> 00:22:17,790
not to defend his life
but to protect his position.
444
00:22:18,070 --> 00:22:21,030
Forget it. You had your bite
at the grand jury.
445
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,900
Franklin is getting away
with killing Tanner.
446
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,600
This memo he wrote
for the Department of Justice
447
00:22:26,670 --> 00:22:28,700
laid out the legal
architecture
448
00:22:28,940 --> 00:22:30,640
permitting the abuse
of prisoners,
449
00:22:31,210 --> 00:22:34,410
abuse that led directly
to this death in Iraq.
450
00:22:35,020 --> 00:22:39,710
You could argue this memo
is an element in a conspiracy
to commit assault
451
00:22:39,820 --> 00:22:41,480
and depraved
indifference murder.
452
00:22:41,590 --> 00:22:44,520
Someone could try to argue it,
if they had jurisdiction.
453
00:22:44,990 --> 00:22:46,720
Have you looked at the time
stamp on this?
454
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,460
"April 10th, 2003,
1 St. Andrews Plaza."
455
00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,470
Franklin was working at
the US Attorney's office
downtown when he wrote it?
456
00:23:01,270 --> 00:23:02,740
Right under our noses.
457
00:23:05,750 --> 00:23:09,010
It's the jurisdictional nexus
we need to prosecute him.
458
00:23:09,980 --> 00:23:13,680
We already have the testimony
of one of his co-conspirators.
459
00:23:13,890 --> 00:23:16,820
Jack, you want to prosecute
a member of the Bush
administration
460
00:23:16,890 --> 00:23:18,860
for assaulting
suspected terrorists?
461
00:23:19,630 --> 00:23:20,960
The word is torturing,
462
00:23:23,660 --> 00:23:25,530
and, yes, it's about time
somebody did.
463
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,730
Draw up a bill of indictment
against Franklin.
464
00:23:34,340 --> 00:23:35,330
Gladly.
465
00:23:45,550 --> 00:23:49,220
The People have met
their jurisdictional
requirement, Mr. Granick.
466
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,050
Your motion's denied.
467
00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:52,110
But, Your Honor,
468
00:23:52,890 --> 00:23:57,520
a conspiracy charge requires
an agreement between
the conspirators.
469
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,860
There is no agreement between
Mr. Tanner and my client
470
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,200
to assault prisoners in 2003.
471
00:24:03,270 --> 00:24:06,400
The agreement is manifest
by the fact
the recommendations
472
00:24:06,470 --> 00:24:09,600
in Mr. Franklin's memo
were conveyed
by intermediaries
473
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,370
to Mr. Tanner in the field
and agreed to by him.
474
00:24:12,710 --> 00:24:14,040
They haven't
connected the dots.
475
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,880
Those intermediaries should
be named in the indictment
as co-conspirators
476
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,080
or the charge is legally
insufficient.
477
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,420
Franklin's daring us to indict
the whole chain of command.
478
00:24:27,730 --> 00:24:29,750
Have you actually read
Franklin's memo?
479
00:24:30,030 --> 00:24:31,550
Cover to cover?
No, not yet.
480
00:24:33,430 --> 00:24:34,920
Read his advice to anyone
481
00:24:35,300 --> 00:24:37,500
worried about being charged
with torture.
482
00:24:37,770 --> 00:24:40,470
"If a defendant has a good
faith belief that his actions
483
00:24:40,540 --> 00:24:43,240
"will not result in prolonged
mental harm,
484
00:24:43,810 --> 00:24:48,980
"he lacks the specific intent
necessary for his actions
to constitute torture.
485
00:24:49,380 --> 00:24:51,650
"A defendant could show that
he acted in good faith
486
00:24:52,020 --> 00:24:54,250
"by surveying
the professional literature
487
00:24:54,790 --> 00:24:56,590
"or consulting with experts.
488
00:24:56,660 --> 00:24:58,990
"Good faith is
a complete defense
489
00:24:59,630 --> 00:25:00,990
"to a charge of torture."
490
00:25:02,230 --> 00:25:04,750
He's telling the interrogators
how to circumvent the law.
491
00:25:05,170 --> 00:25:08,360
Just remember, kids,
if you're going to torture,
read a book first!
492
00:25:09,340 --> 00:25:10,670
They want co-conspirators?
493
00:25:12,010 --> 00:25:13,470
I'll give them
co-conspirators.
494
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,240
The Joint Chiefs of Staff?
495
00:25:18,510 --> 00:25:21,570
Former Secretary of Defense?
Vice-President Cheney?
496
00:25:22,150 --> 00:25:24,120
In for a penny,
in for a pound, Mr. Cutter?
497
00:25:24,180 --> 00:25:26,620
The indictments are being
served as we speak,
Your Honor.
498
00:25:26,690 --> 00:25:29,250
Mr. Franklin can consider
the dots connected.
499
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,490
It's absurd. Mr. Cutter
is making a mockery
of the conspiracy statutes.
500
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,430
It's clear who's behind this.
501
00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:39,260
Jack McCoy obviously took
exception to my boss's conduct
of the War on Terror,
502
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,230
and now he's politicizing
this prosecution.
503
00:25:41,300 --> 00:25:45,000
If Mr. Franklin is afraid
a trial might embarrass
his former colleagues,
504
00:25:45,070 --> 00:25:47,130
he's always welcome
to take a plea.
505
00:25:47,470 --> 00:25:49,870
I see no reason
for this indictment
not to proceed.
506
00:25:50,580 --> 00:25:51,640
See you all at trial.
507
00:25:54,380 --> 00:25:56,650
So far so good.
This was nothing.
508
00:25:56,780 --> 00:25:59,010
The real hailstorm's going
to come when those indictments
509
00:25:59,090 --> 00:26:01,110
start landing
on the co-conspirators' desks.
510
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,890
Our clients sent us here
hoping we can talk some sense
into you, Mr. McCoy.
511
00:26:05,030 --> 00:26:06,460
You wouldn't be
the first to try.
512
00:26:06,860 --> 00:26:10,230
You're going to spark
a constitutional crisis,
and that's no threat.
513
00:26:10,860 --> 00:26:12,960
Is that really the valediction
you want for your career?
514
00:26:13,370 --> 00:26:15,030
You let me worry about
my career.
515
00:26:15,540 --> 00:26:18,870
And now, unless you're all
here to talk about a plea,
there's the door.
516
00:26:18,940 --> 00:26:19,930
A plea?
517
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,130
You actually believe that you,
a county D.A., can prosecute
a former Vice-President,
518
00:26:24,210 --> 00:26:27,910
cabinet members,
for their conduct of a war
on foreign soil?
519
00:26:27,980 --> 00:26:32,850
I prosecuted a Chilean colonel
for the murder of
a US citizen in Santiago.
520
00:26:32,950 --> 00:26:35,650
So government officials
who torture prisoners
521
00:26:36,020 --> 00:26:37,890
on American military bases?
522
00:26:38,120 --> 00:26:39,590
Sure, why not?
523
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,420
This is why not.
524
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,170
This is just the beginning.
525
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,680
We'll keep churning them out
until your office is drowning
in motions.
526
00:27:07,890 --> 00:27:11,190
Motions for change of venue,
motions to dismiss,
to suppress.
527
00:27:11,930 --> 00:27:15,330
The trial starts next week.
We'll be lucky to get through
just one of these bricks.
528
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,400
Strawn doesn't
represent everybody.
529
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,800
We'll sever the trials.
We'll try Franklin
and his associates first.
530
00:27:23,700 --> 00:27:24,760
We convict them,
531
00:27:25,370 --> 00:27:27,000
then move up the chain
of command.
532
00:27:27,070 --> 00:27:29,230
Connie, assemble a team,
533
00:27:29,740 --> 00:27:31,730
get them working
on Strawn's motions.
534
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,420
Cards on the table, Jack,
535
00:27:43,860 --> 00:27:45,920
I think we bit off more than
we can chew.
536
00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:48,730
And I'm not even convinced
of our legal standing.
537
00:27:49,230 --> 00:27:50,220
I know.
538
00:27:51,100 --> 00:27:53,360
You value legalities
over ethics,
539
00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:56,400
but sometimes doing
what's ethical
is more important.
540
00:27:56,470 --> 00:27:57,800
You can insult me all
you want, Jack,
541
00:27:57,870 --> 00:28:00,860
but maybe the ethical thing
to do here is to save American
lives.
542
00:28:02,140 --> 00:28:05,270
We're at war with people
who've sworn to kill us
for who we are.
543
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,040
It doesn't matter
if it's civilians, women,
children,
544
00:28:08,180 --> 00:28:10,050
as long as they kill
Americans.
545
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,350
And if we have to use force
to extract the information
we need
546
00:28:13,420 --> 00:28:14,550
to protect ourselves,
547
00:28:14,790 --> 00:28:16,880
well, then maybe that's
the right thing to do.
548
00:28:17,790 --> 00:28:18,780
I see.
549
00:28:24,030 --> 00:28:27,160
Maybe I should find somebody
else to prosecute Franklin.
550
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,830
Oh, no. You can count
on my obsession
with legalities.
551
00:28:33,140 --> 00:28:35,370
If there's a way to prove
that Franklin broke the law,
552
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,110
I'm your man.
553
00:28:42,980 --> 00:28:45,080
It's called
a Palestinian hanging.
554
00:28:45,150 --> 00:28:49,110
It's how the North Vietnamese
tortured Senator John McCain
when he was a POW.
555
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,250
It's one of the stress
positions sanctioned
by Mr. Franklin's memo.
556
00:28:53,790 --> 00:28:57,390
What other harsh techniques
are sanctioned
by Mr. Franklin's memo?
557
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,360
The most well-known
is water-boarding,
558
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,400
where a detainee is held down,
559
00:29:01,740 --> 00:29:04,030
a cloth is placed over
his face and water is poured
560
00:29:04,100 --> 00:29:06,330
over his mouth and nose
to simulate drowning.
561
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,940
And who, if anyone
besides the US military,
562
00:29:09,010 --> 00:29:11,370
has used this interrogation
technique?
563
00:29:11,810 --> 00:29:13,210
The Spanish Inquisition.
564
00:29:13,550 --> 00:29:15,240
And after
the Second World War,
565
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,650
we convicted Japanese
officers of war crimes
566
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,410
for water-boarding
our POWs.
567
00:29:21,020 --> 00:29:23,990
Now you told us that during
your career in the military,
568
00:29:24,060 --> 00:29:27,520
you participated in over
a thousand interrogations.
569
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,520
Did you ever use any
of these harsh techniques?
570
00:29:30,660 --> 00:29:34,030
No, sir. We took down terror
networks with tools
like respect,
571
00:29:34,770 --> 00:29:36,600
rapport, cunning
and deception.
572
00:29:36,900 --> 00:29:39,240
Not the techniques
in this memo?
573
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,670
Besides the fact I have
a moral problem with torture,
it doesn't work, sir.
574
00:29:44,740 --> 00:29:46,180
In fact, it works against us.
575
00:29:47,150 --> 00:29:51,080
It's hypocritical to defend
our values with torture.
576
00:29:51,250 --> 00:29:52,280
That hypocrisy
577
00:29:52,690 --> 00:29:54,850
is the best recruiting
tool you can give
to the terrorists.
578
00:29:55,590 --> 00:29:56,580
Thank you.
579
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,830
I want to be clear,
Mr. Gardner.
580
00:30:03,460 --> 00:30:04,760
If you had a terrorist
581
00:30:04,930 --> 00:30:06,990
who you believed
had information
582
00:30:07,130 --> 00:30:09,360
about a dirty bomb
set to go off
583
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,730
in this city
within 24 hours,
584
00:30:11,810 --> 00:30:15,300
you wouldn't avail yourself
of every possible technique
585
00:30:15,380 --> 00:30:17,140
to extract information
from him?
586
00:30:17,810 --> 00:30:20,280
A man in severe pain
or mental anguish
587
00:30:20,580 --> 00:30:22,380
will say anything
to make it stop.
588
00:30:22,950 --> 00:30:24,470
If you only have
24 hours,
589
00:30:24,780 --> 00:30:27,650
the last thing you want
to do is waste time
chasing down false leads.
590
00:30:28,190 --> 00:30:29,420
Torture just doesn't work.
591
00:30:29,490 --> 00:30:32,360
No one here's advocating
torture, Mr. Gardner.
592
00:30:32,430 --> 00:30:34,020
We're talking about harsh
techniques.
593
00:30:34,090 --> 00:30:35,120
I know what we're talking
about, sir.
594
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,390
I don't need a memo
to tell me what torture is.
595
00:30:41,900 --> 00:30:43,060
Jack?
596
00:30:43,870 --> 00:30:45,500
David. What a nice surprise.
597
00:30:46,010 --> 00:30:48,910
Come with me,
I'm taking the stairs.
I need the exercise.
598
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:50,700
So do you, kid.
599
00:30:52,050 --> 00:30:53,710
How're they treating
you in Washington?
600
00:30:53,780 --> 00:30:56,540
Good. The Attorney General's
no Jack McCoy,
but I'm learning a lot.
601
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,570
Jack, they sent me here
to talk to you about
the Franklin case.
602
00:30:59,690 --> 00:31:00,810
They want you
to call it off.
603
00:31:00,890 --> 00:31:03,150
The jury's empanelled,
jeopardy has attached.
604
00:31:03,220 --> 00:31:05,950
They don't care. They want
the charges dismissed against
all the defendants.
605
00:31:06,030 --> 00:31:09,120
I don't get it. The new
administration doesn't
have a dog in this fight.
606
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,600
We can't let state prosecutors
try to hold federal officials
accountable
607
00:31:12,670 --> 00:31:14,760
for their conduct of a war.
It's a bad precedent.
608
00:31:15,170 --> 00:31:17,830
In any event, the Attorney
General's naming a special
prosecutor
609
00:31:17,900 --> 00:31:19,130
to investigate torture claims.
610
00:31:19,210 --> 00:31:22,270
I heard. To go after
the small fry, a couple
of thugs in the field.
611
00:31:22,510 --> 00:31:24,870
What about the policy-makers,
the deciders?
612
00:31:25,610 --> 00:31:27,770
Right. They get
a free pass because
613
00:31:28,110 --> 00:31:30,980
if you go after the previous
administration's dirty
laundry,
614
00:31:31,050 --> 00:31:32,850
the next administration will
go after yours.
615
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,610
That's the precedent
you don't want to set.
616
00:31:34,690 --> 00:31:36,810
It's just politics, Jack.
617
00:31:37,890 --> 00:31:39,590
I don't know what you're
learning over there, David,
618
00:31:39,660 --> 00:31:41,920
but you've forgotten
everything you learned here.
619
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,030
Tell the Attorney General
no deal.
620
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,800
Information is perhaps
621
00:31:51,870 --> 00:31:54,470
the most critical weapon
for defeating the terrorist
threat.
622
00:31:55,010 --> 00:31:58,210
Our success rests
on our ability to extract
that information.
623
00:31:58,650 --> 00:32:01,840
I was asked to advise
the Defense Department
as to the legal standards
624
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,750
governing the interrogation
of terrorist suspects.
625
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,580
I put my findings in a memo
626
00:32:05,820 --> 00:32:07,150
and sent it on
to the relevant parties.
627
00:32:07,450 --> 00:32:08,440
Thank you.
628
00:32:11,690 --> 00:32:15,180
Mr. Franklin, isn't it fair
to characterize the legal
standards
629
00:32:15,260 --> 00:32:19,360
you set governing
the interrogations of suspects
as "anything goes,
630
00:32:19,430 --> 00:32:21,460
"so long as the President
orders it,"
631
00:32:21,830 --> 00:32:25,330
and in his capacity
as Commander-in-chief
in a time of war,
632
00:32:25,610 --> 00:32:29,040
he has the authority to issue
any order he deems
appropriate?
633
00:32:29,610 --> 00:32:30,910
The President can't break
the law.
634
00:32:31,110 --> 00:32:36,010
Well, according to your memo,
what law is the President
bound by in the War on Terror,
635
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,580
the Geneva and Hague
Conventions?
636
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,580
Not applicable because
terrorist detainees
are illegal combatants.
637
00:32:41,990 --> 00:32:44,050
The Due Process Clause
of the Fifth Amendment?
638
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,660
Not applicable to alien
enemy combatants held abroad.
639
00:32:46,930 --> 00:32:49,720
The Eighth Amendment ban
on cruel and unusual
punishment?
640
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,560
Not applicable
because harsh interrogations
are not punishment.
641
00:32:52,770 --> 00:32:56,960
So you are saying, in war,
the President is bound
by no laws?
642
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,770
Yes, in war.
643
00:32:58,970 --> 00:33:02,370
So if he deems he's got
to torture somebody,
for example,
644
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,500
by crushing the testicles
of that person's child,
645
00:33:06,580 --> 00:33:10,520
your memo says
there is no law, no treaty
that can stop him?
646
00:33:10,950 --> 00:33:14,680
Well, it would depend on why
the President thinks he needs
to do that.
647
00:33:21,390 --> 00:33:23,560
Now, your memo justifies
these actions
648
00:33:23,630 --> 00:33:26,960
because the detainees
are not regular soldiers
649
00:33:27,030 --> 00:33:30,160
in a national army
as we understand it,
correct?
650
00:33:30,370 --> 00:33:33,270
Correct. Unlawful enemy
combatants are not entitled
to the usual protections.
651
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,600
Is it too much to assume
they'd be protected by our own
sense of decency?
652
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,780
That's not the task
I was given, Mr. Cutter.
653
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,310
My memo addressed legal,
not ethical standards.
654
00:33:42,820 --> 00:33:46,620
Now, your memo says that,
"Historically, nations
and their sovereigns
655
00:33:46,690 --> 00:33:50,180
"have been free to treat
unlawful combatants
as they wish."
656
00:33:50,260 --> 00:33:52,750
Could you please give us
such an historical example?
657
00:33:54,490 --> 00:33:56,120
Well, off the top
of my head...
658
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,630
What about this example?
659
00:34:00,430 --> 00:34:03,230
The summary execution
of a Vietcong guerilla
660
00:34:03,300 --> 00:34:05,100
by a South Vietnamese general.
661
00:34:05,710 --> 00:34:06,690
Or this,
662
00:34:07,270 --> 00:34:11,640
the torture and murder
of Polish resistance fighters
by the German army?
663
00:34:11,710 --> 00:34:15,840
Is this the historical right
you say the President should
avail himself of?
664
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,010
I didn't invent the right
of sovereigns, Mr. Cutter.
I simply defined it.
665
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,880
The right to do what they want
with unlawful combatants.
666
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,890
Yes.
Unlawful combatants like
667
00:34:26,330 --> 00:34:29,690
the American militia
after King George
declared them rebels?
668
00:34:30,260 --> 00:34:31,250
Yes, like that.
669
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,130
So you would defend the brutal
treatment of American
prisoners
670
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,500
by the British during
the Revolutionary War?
671
00:34:37,570 --> 00:34:39,630
From a legal standpoint, yes.
672
00:34:40,670 --> 00:34:44,800
Mr. Franklin, what is it
about this country that
you don't get?
673
00:34:46,010 --> 00:34:47,070
Withdrawn.
674
00:34:48,050 --> 00:34:49,040
No more questions.
675
00:35:00,890 --> 00:35:04,590
There was a state senator
on just now calling
for your removal as D.A.
676
00:35:07,970 --> 00:35:09,130
You know, that day,
677
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,700
eight years ago, we could
see the towers burn
from Adam's window.
678
00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:14,900
I remember.
679
00:35:18,140 --> 00:35:20,610
Part of me says
I don't care what you do
to these detainees.
680
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:21,810
I don't want to know.
681
00:35:22,750 --> 00:35:23,910
Just protect us.
682
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,080
The problem is,
683
00:35:26,850 --> 00:35:27,910
now we do know.
684
00:35:29,190 --> 00:35:31,210
Yeah, and I'm not sure
that makes a difference.
685
00:35:42,570 --> 00:35:44,370
We're wanted in federal
court tomorrow.
686
00:35:46,370 --> 00:35:48,700
The Attorney General
is asking the court
to issue an order
687
00:35:48,770 --> 00:35:50,470
staying the District
Attorney's prosecution
688
00:35:50,540 --> 00:35:52,200
of Mr. Franklin
and the other defendants.
689
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,580
They can't just step in
and stop the trial.
690
00:35:54,650 --> 00:35:56,670
Under the Supremacy Clause
of the Constitution,
691
00:35:56,750 --> 00:35:59,980
actions taken by federal
officials in pursuit
of foreign policy
692
00:36:00,050 --> 00:36:02,420
are not grist for state
prosecutions.
693
00:36:02,620 --> 00:36:05,460
If those actions are illegal,
as torture clearly is,
694
00:36:05,530 --> 00:36:07,490
there's no overriding
federal interest
695
00:36:07,860 --> 00:36:10,290
in shielding those who enabled
such actions.
696
00:36:10,460 --> 00:36:11,790
All right, gentlemen.
697
00:36:12,030 --> 00:36:13,930
I'll take the motion
under advisement.
698
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,660
I'll issue my ruling
by the end of the day.
699
00:36:15,740 --> 00:36:18,470
In the meantime,
the state trial can proceed.
700
00:36:25,550 --> 00:36:27,010
I never expected this of you.
701
00:36:27,610 --> 00:36:29,210
You're way off
the reservation, Jack.
702
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,310
Damn it, David.
703
00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:32,340
I'm trying to save
the reservation.
704
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:33,990
We're looking forward,
not backward.
705
00:36:34,050 --> 00:36:36,420
We're not looking to give aid
and comfort to the enemy.
706
00:36:39,790 --> 00:36:41,660
What are you accusing me of?
707
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,440
My client never
tortured anybody.
708
00:37:00,110 --> 00:37:04,140
He never ordered another
or conspired with others
to commit torture.
709
00:37:05,050 --> 00:37:07,450
As a member of the Office
of Legal Counsel
710
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,920
of the Department of Justice
and in service
711
00:37:09,990 --> 00:37:13,890
to his Commander-in-chief,
he was asked to give
a legal opinion.
712
00:37:14,430 --> 00:37:15,660
It might not be the most
713
00:37:15,730 --> 00:37:19,290
brilliant opinion ever
written, but in the end,
714
00:37:19,870 --> 00:37:22,300
it's just that,
a legal opinion.
715
00:37:23,540 --> 00:37:26,100
Whether or not we agree
on the conduct
716
00:37:26,170 --> 00:37:29,270
of the War on Terror,
we can all still agree
717
00:37:30,340 --> 00:37:31,640
that in this country,
718
00:37:33,050 --> 00:37:35,240
you have to actually
commit a crime
719
00:37:35,550 --> 00:37:36,910
to be convicted of one.
720
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:39,670
Thank you.
721
00:37:43,860 --> 00:37:47,620
This is no simple legal
opinion, ladies and gentlemen.
722
00:37:47,860 --> 00:37:51,960
This is an instruction
on how to commit a crime
and avoid prosecution,
723
00:37:52,830 --> 00:37:56,170
a surgical parsing of words
to draw hair-splitting
distinctions
724
00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:59,860
between severe pain
and extreme pain.
725
00:38:00,540 --> 00:38:03,010
The creation of a special
class of prisoners
726
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,270
who are fair game
for any suffering we might
subject them to.
727
00:38:06,810 --> 00:38:08,910
This is the legal grease
728
00:38:08,980 --> 00:38:11,040
that enabled the conspirators
to commit acts
729
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,380
that are immoral and illegal.
730
00:38:14,350 --> 00:38:15,680
Hanging prisoners
731
00:38:15,890 --> 00:38:19,720
by their wrists until
their lungs collapse
against their ribs,
732
00:38:20,490 --> 00:38:25,490
water-boarding one detainee
over 180 times.
733
00:38:29,740 --> 00:38:33,190
Now, Mr. Franklin's defense
is that he was
just following orders
734
00:38:33,610 --> 00:38:35,770
as a mere lawyer
in the Justice Department.
735
00:38:36,610 --> 00:38:38,240
Well, like all lawyers,
736
00:38:38,540 --> 00:38:43,110
he was employed as the last
and best defense
against injustice,
737
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,980
to use the law as a shield
to protect people.
738
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,920
But instead, he used it
as a sword to injure them.
739
00:38:51,860 --> 00:38:54,350
Where he was sworn
to uphold the Constitution,
740
00:38:54,660 --> 00:38:57,530
he used his legal education
to subvert it,
741
00:38:57,900 --> 00:38:59,090
to shame it
742
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,760
and betray its promise
to the world.
743
00:39:03,370 --> 00:39:05,390
Five days after 9/11,
744
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:10,280
Vice-President Cheney
told us that we would have
to "work the dark side"
745
00:39:10,580 --> 00:39:11,630
to fight terrorists.
746
00:39:11,710 --> 00:39:13,870
Well, we never imagined
that to mean
747
00:39:14,150 --> 00:39:17,710
that we would cede control
to our own dark side.
748
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,480
The tactics justified
in Mr. Franklin's
memo draw
749
00:39:22,690 --> 00:39:25,180
from the worst
of our nature.
750
00:39:27,460 --> 00:39:30,430
Even in the midst
of the Revolutionary War,
751
00:39:30,630 --> 00:39:32,720
in the midst of the Civil War,
752
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,130
Presidents Washington
and Lincoln
753
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,730
admonished their troops
not to injure their prisoners.
754
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,430
Now, some of you may feel
755
00:39:42,010 --> 00:39:44,500
that it is not the place
of this jury,
756
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,170
or even the People,
757
00:39:46,910 --> 00:39:50,710
to question the actions
of our government officials
during a time of war.
758
00:39:51,450 --> 00:39:54,510
That the premise
of this trial itself
somehow is
759
00:39:56,020 --> 00:39:57,010
treasonous.
760
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:01,750
I would assure you,
761
00:40:02,090 --> 00:40:03,150
ladies and gentlemen,
762
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:04,960
it is not disloyal
763
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,260
to hold our officials
to the highest standards
of conduct.
764
00:40:10,140 --> 00:40:11,800
And it is not disloyal
765
00:40:12,100 --> 00:40:15,040
to allow you, the People,
to decide
766
00:40:15,210 --> 00:40:17,940
what you want done
in your name.
767
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:26,510
Thank you.
768
00:40:32,260 --> 00:40:33,660
Has the jury
reached a verdict?
769
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:34,950
We have, Your Honor.
770
00:40:35,690 --> 00:40:36,890
The defendant
will stand.
771
00:40:40,300 --> 00:40:42,290
On the first count
of the indictment,
772
00:40:42,470 --> 00:40:43,870
Conspiracy in the...
773
00:40:47,940 --> 00:40:49,100
What's going on, Eddie?
774
00:40:51,940 --> 00:40:54,540
He's a Federal Marshal,
with an order
from the district court.
775
00:40:54,710 --> 00:40:55,740
Bring it here.
776
00:41:13,230 --> 00:41:15,130
The federal court
for the southern district
777
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,970
has issued an order
preempting this prosecution.
778
00:41:18,170 --> 00:41:19,160
The trial is over.
779
00:41:19,970 --> 00:41:22,440
Ladies
and gentlemen of the jury,
thank you for your service.
780
00:41:22,610 --> 00:41:23,940
We're adjourned.
781
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,740
Your Honor,
the jury had a verdict.
782
00:41:27,910 --> 00:41:31,010
There's no verdict until
it's entered in the record.
It's over, Mr. Cutter.
783
00:41:40,530 --> 00:41:42,990
I'll start checking the case
law, see what
our next step is.
784
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,290
You won't find anything.
There's no recourse.
785
00:41:57,110 --> 00:41:59,600
The people who want you out,
Jack, they'll use this
to hammer you.
786
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,940
Good. At the end of the day,
I hope to give them even more
reason to be mad at me.
787
00:42:07,950 --> 00:42:09,440
Come on, Mike.
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