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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,162 WWW.MY-SUBS.CO 1 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,080 I don't believe that you can justly kill anybody. 2 00:00:20,080 --> 00:00:21,960 I'm not for people losing their life. 3 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,040 I just got dragged into the mix. 4 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,880 There was so much media arousal over the case. 5 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,280 They purported it to be a... a religious murder, 6 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:39,400 which is not the fact. 7 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:46,200 There's nothing in the Muslim religion that states for you to hurt anybody. 8 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:09,840 I'm thankful that I'm alive, 9 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,120 but at the same time, I sometimes regret my decision. 10 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,720 I feel like there was something we... we could've done, 11 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,720 just at the time we didn't know. 12 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,080 I didn't know what I could do. 13 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,280 Warden has given permission for him not to wear the handcuffs. 14 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,440 - Okay. Thank you so much. - Okay. 15 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,560 My name is Nasim Ali Irsan. 16 00:02:53,640 --> 00:02:56,400 I was convicted of first-degree murder charge 17 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,680 and my sentence is a 40-year sentence in TDCJ. 18 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,120 I was born September 17, 1993, 19 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,560 and I grew up in Conroe, Texas, Houston area. 20 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,600 My childhood was a little bit rough. 21 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,480 I had a total of 12 siblings, 22 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:42,560 uh, including myself, and my family is... is... Hmm, it's complicated. 23 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:57,920 I was born to strict parents. 24 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,000 You just did what you were told, and that was it. 25 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:03,560 There was no questions asked. 26 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,200 Religion dominated everything in the house. 27 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,120 I didn't know why I was a Muslim. 28 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,600 I just knew that I was a Muslim by force of my father. 29 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,000 He pushed everything that he believed upon us. 30 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,480 If you missed a prayer, 31 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,760 that, you know, that was grounds for having your ass beat. 32 00:04:40,840 --> 00:04:41,840 Excuse my language. 33 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,320 But he grew up in a city 34 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,760 of a Middle Eastern Third World country. 35 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:55,600 So, he believes that the way that he grew up on was the religion, 36 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,040 which is not the fact. 37 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,560 That's the culture upon which he was brought up. 38 00:05:11,280 --> 00:05:14,600 As kids, we were not allowed to have any kind of friends. 39 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:20,600 He deemed everybody who was not a Muslim, or of his same denomination, 40 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:21,720 to be infidels. 41 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,280 When I was in school, I got pulled out of school 42 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,400 and my parents refused to allow me back in school because I made some friends. 43 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,240 It kind of made me a social outcast. 44 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:45,040 Uh, I never... I never grew up around anybody to talk to. 45 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,200 So, I was... I was sort of a loner. 46 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:56,680 I have four older sisters. 47 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,120 One of them, I... I barely ever met. 48 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,000 The other sister underneath her is Nadia. 49 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,160 And then, the one underneath her is Nesreen. 50 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,280 Nadia and Nesreen had a little clique, 51 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,680 a little pact that they had between each other. 52 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,000 They're the ones that took care of everything. 53 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,240 They fed everybody, cleaned the house. 54 00:06:18,280 --> 00:06:22,240 My mom and dad's duty was... was merely just an existence. 55 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,480 They never cooked for us, they never cleaned for us. 56 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,840 They... they punished us, but they never really played a part in our life. 57 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:31,760 That was all Nadia and Nesreen. 58 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,480 The proposition was brought to them that 59 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,360 they were either gonna go to college 60 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,600 or they were gonna go to Jordan and be forced into marriage. 61 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,880 So they chose to go to college, 62 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:05,520 and, uh... ...but there... 63 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,120 there was a strict rule that they'd have to take the same classes 64 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,640 and be in the same... same courses. 65 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,040 That way they could watch over each other. 66 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,720 The few friends that my father did believe that they had 67 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,200 were allegedly Muslims, and they were females. 68 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,080 In such a sense, he'd approved of it. 69 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,320 To his knowledge, they'd go straight from college, 70 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,840 do their classes, and come straight home. 71 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,200 It became about two years into it 72 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,160 when Nesreen and Nadia started be... becoming more, um, 73 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,920 I want to say "rebellious" to his orders. 74 00:07:59,960 --> 00:08:04,400 If he would have known about the independence or the social life 75 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,120 that my sisters had in college, it would've been a problem. 76 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,240 My father, Ali, did tell my sister Nesreen, 77 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,160 "I would put a bullet between your eyes 78 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,520 if I found out you were dating anybody that wasn't a Muslim." 79 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,280 It enraged him knowing that she was intentionally 80 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,040 and purposely disobeying his orders. 81 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,680 She would have been killed had she stayed in the house any longer than she did. 82 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,000 She managed to escape, and she ran out of a window 83 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:20,440 that, you know, that she had cracked open, and she made it out. 84 00:09:28,560 --> 00:09:31,960 Everything started from the day that Nesreen ran away... 85 00:09:34,680 --> 00:09:37,040 and that's what led to the unfortunate events 86 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,240 that we are in prison for right now. 87 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,800 My dad felt like he took his daughter away from him. 88 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:14,120 But he believed that the dishonor was blamed on the friends 89 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,400 that he found out she had in college. 90 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,360 That's when he told me there was this girl named Gelareh 91 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:26,760 that had played a part in my sister Nesreen's running away 92 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:28,440 and converting to a Christian. 93 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,560 My father believed that she aided and abetted my sister 94 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,720 in disobeying his orders, 95 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,000 and he deemed my sister to be his honor. 96 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,440 So, he felt that she had soiled his honor 97 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,680 by assisting my sister Nesreen to be converted into a Christian. 98 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,560 He felt like that was enough for her to be killed. 99 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,760 The only way to clean his honor would be by blood. 100 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,960 And he began the stalking of Miss Gelareh. 101 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,520 It would be nights that he would go out 102 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,200 and monitor her movements. 103 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,680 See where she's going, see who she talks to. 104 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,720 My father, he had GPS trackers that he purchased online 105 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,720 to gather information, intel, on Miss Gelareh's car, 106 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,040 which is how, in the end, he had found out where she was. 107 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,360 I used to go on these checks 108 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:59,360 and my job was to watch and document license plates numbers 109 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,080 and things that I seen going in and out of this house. 110 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:10,560 I was only 17, 18 years old at the time, and I didn't know no better. 111 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,880 There was night watches to plan what the attack would be. 112 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,400 And that's what... what led to that. 113 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,320 Houston Fire and Ambulance. 114 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,520 - What's the location of the emergency? - Augusta Drive. 115 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,520 My neighbor's been shot. I think she's in the car. 116 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,080 Please send someone quickly. I'm not sure she's alive. 117 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,360 Can you tell if she's awake right now? 118 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:01,640 She's not. 119 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,560 Okay, we are dispatching emergency units. 120 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,880 Okay, just remain safe if the assailant is nearby. 121 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,280 Do not disturb the scene or move any weapons. 122 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:26,600 Yeah. Oh, God. 123 00:13:56,680 --> 00:14:01,200 This is probably one of the cases that, you know, got to me personally. 124 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,960 I had a plan to retire a year earlier than I did, but I just couldn't. 125 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:09,240 I couldn't let it go. 126 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,520 This is the case that kept me here. 127 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,920 My name's, uh, Officer Richard Bolton. 128 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:25,960 Retired now, but I was a police officer for the City of Houston for 32 years. 129 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:43,880 Well, this is not a high crime area. This is a really nice area of Houston. 130 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,600 It was just shocking to think something like that would happen here. 131 00:14:58,400 --> 00:14:59,600 When I arrived that night, 132 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:06,960 her vehicle was smashed into this garage door right here. 133 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:09,720 And the door was all caved in. 134 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,000 The car was still in gear and the tires were still spinning. 135 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,320 You know, you could smell the burning rubber, still. 136 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,480 We're shining flashlights in here. 137 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,480 She was sitting in the driver's seat, 138 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,240 and she was slumped over the console this way... 139 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:34,600 ...you know, facedown. 140 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,600 There was one wound to her upper arm 141 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,360 and one wound to the right side of her head, 142 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,240 and it was apparent that the victim had been shot. 143 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:52,440 At least twice. 144 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,920 Point-blank range through the passenger window. 145 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:01,600 This wasn't a robbery. 146 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,400 Her purse and wallet were still in the front seat of her car. 147 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,320 Somebody, they followed her in here to kill her. 148 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:17,760 It was a pretty horrific scene. 149 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,280 You don't ever get used to it. 150 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:27,760 The most difficult thing is we had to make death notification to her parents. 151 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,320 You know, it almost made you want to break down. It... It was that... 152 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,440 You know... ...it was hard. 153 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:39,920 We didn't have any answers for them. 154 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,480 We did not know a motive. 155 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,720 We didn't have a clue who did this to her. 156 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:08,560 Gelareh, say something. 157 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,920 What? Like what? 158 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,200 A message to Iran. 159 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:21,120 I look forward to a day when we can all be free like this in Iran. 160 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,160 This is where I first met Gelareh. 161 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:42,120 It was during a candle vigil for people who died during the protest in Iran. 162 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,160 Gelareh was right at the front. 163 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:55,080 Out of thousands of faces, she had a face that you would remember. 164 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,160 The sun was going down. 165 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:59,240 Candles... 166 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:01,680 Music, singing... 167 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,880 It... It was a very special moment. 168 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:10,640 The irony is, later on, we had a candle vigil for Gelareh. 169 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,520 Here, the very same place. 170 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,000 My name is Seth Eslami, 171 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,880 and I was a friend of Gelareh. 172 00:18:30,360 --> 00:18:34,160 Gelareh grew up in the capital of Iran, Tehran, the largest city. 173 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,600 When you grow up in a country where 174 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,760 there's a certain power in charge that tells you how to think, 175 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,600 what to think, what to like. Right? 176 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,080 Then freedom becomes very valuable. 177 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,280 So when you come to a free environment like here, 178 00:18:49,360 --> 00:18:51,880 then you realize it, and you're like, "Wow, this is so sweet." 179 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,960 "This is so wonderful," you know? 180 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:58,800 She wanted her friends and family and fellow, you know, countrymen 181 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,040 to have the same thing. 182 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:07,960 Especially as a female, she was definitely passionate about equality. 183 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:18,080 We started working together during the protest events 184 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,880 and got closer and we became good friends. 185 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,320 She became good friends with my wife. 186 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,760 She was the only person who ever babysit for us. 187 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,080 She was one of those optimistic ones. 188 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:38,240 You wouldn't see much pessimism in her. Yeah, she... she never gave up hope. 189 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,840 It was a feeling of pure shock. 190 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,440 No, these are not feelings that... 191 00:20:01,360 --> 00:20:03,960 Uh... This is the feeling that I hope nobody has to go through. 192 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:05,440 Let's just put it this way. 193 00:20:07,120 --> 00:20:09,880 It just didn't make any sense. 194 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,600 As far as I know, police had no suspects. 195 00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:19,880 And they came up with the largest reward in Houston history. 196 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:24,320 They put a $200,000 reward for any information. 197 00:20:26,120 --> 00:20:28,040 And then the news got big. 198 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,400 Thirty-year-old Gelareh Bagherzadeh was murdered, 199 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,480 shot to death near her parents' home in the Galleria area. 200 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,560 Mysterious death of an activist pushing for women's rights in Iran. 201 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,120 Now there are new questions about whether her activist past 202 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,440 could have played a role in her death. 203 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:53,280 There was a theory that this was done because of her activism. 204 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,800 "Oh, yes, the Iranian government went and killed this, you know, activist." 205 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,560 But this doesn't make sense. 206 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,840 You know, yes, we're not a fan of the Iranian government, 207 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,440 but let's focus on something more realistic. 208 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,080 Certain questions never leave your mind, you know? 209 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,280 Did you miss something? Did you... Is there something to know, 210 00:21:12,360 --> 00:21:14,920 or is there something to be afraid of? 211 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:21,760 But, in her case, it just did not make any sense. 212 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,840 I can't imagine how her family was going through with it. 213 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,800 You know, as a friend, it was difficult for me, but her family... 214 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:31,960 Unbelievable. 215 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:38,640 Every time I met them, you could see it in her mother's eyes. 216 00:21:41,120 --> 00:21:44,880 Me, friends, people that I knew, we had no idea. 217 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,680 We had no clue. 218 00:22:31,360 --> 00:22:33,520 911, hello? 219 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,600 Oh, ma'am, my husband's been shot! 220 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,480 He's on the ground, and there's blood all over the place! 221 00:22:47,120 --> 00:22:49,640 - Ma'am, please help me! I love him! - Okay. 222 00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:54,120 Why, God? Why did God do this to me? 223 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,640 God wasn't the one that did it, sweetie. 224 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,560 I've worked criminal cases, I've worked counterterrorism cases. 225 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,680 This one, I'll always remember. 226 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,040 My name is Carlos Acosta. I'm a special agent with FBI, 227 00:23:38,120 --> 00:23:42,360 and I was the lead investigator on the Nasim Irsan investigation. 228 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,920 After the FBI became involved, 229 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,600 we identified that there was a clear link between both murders. 230 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:56,400 Nesreen was Coty Beavers' wife and Gelareh's best friend. 231 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,080 The first thing we did was interview Nesreen. 232 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:05,320 She made the allegations that her father, Ali, was involved in both... 233 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,080 not only the murder of Coty Beavers, 234 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,000 but also the murder of her best friend, Gelareh. 235 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,360 So we focused on Nesreen's father, Ali, 236 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,920 and we started by searching his property. 237 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,760 It was one of the longest non-stop search warrants that we conducted. 238 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:37,120 We were able to find evidence linking back to the murders. 239 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,480 One was a particular .38 caliber revolver, 240 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,840 which was the same caliber as the murder weapon 241 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,280 that was utilized in the Gelareh murder. 242 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,480 We also discovered that in the faucets of the roof 243 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,920 were two car navigation devices. 244 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:02,480 And so, with those we had enough evidence to put him at both murder sites. 245 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,840 All of the evidence was pointing to Ali. 246 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,800 So we... we thought we had him for both murders. 247 00:25:26,360 --> 00:25:30,200 Until we discovered a call between Ali and Nasim. 248 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,560 Ali was in jail, so everything that he was saying 249 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,480 on the open line was recorded. 250 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:57,200 Nasim was speaking to his dad about the murder of Gelareh. 251 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,560 Nasim, listen to me, baby. 252 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,360 I'm a very, very bad man. 253 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,680 I'm very bad. I don't know how many lives have to be lost. 254 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:11,920 Nasim, listen to me, baby. 255 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,640 I'm dangerous. I'm a very, very dangerous man. 256 00:26:16,360 --> 00:26:17,720 That's all I can say. 257 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:18,800 God knows. 258 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,160 God knows and soon the world will too. 259 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,800 Nasim, listen to me. 260 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,760 There was two people that knew and now they can't speak. 261 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,920 After the jail call, we realized that Nasim was involved. 262 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,400 He was feeling guilty, 263 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,040 and he was pretty much making admission to murder. 264 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:45,800 That was quite a break. 265 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,920 So, we start looking into Nasim. 266 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,600 And other pieces of evidence started to mount up. 267 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,360 We realized on the night Gelareh was killed, 268 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,400 the family was stopped, 269 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,200 heading from Houston back toward Conroe. 270 00:27:23,360 --> 00:27:26,720 If you drove from that murder scene, 271 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:31,440 it was the exact route you'd have had to drive to get to Ali Irsan's residence. 272 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,200 Come on over here for me. 273 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,520 The time period fit perfectly, the car that he was driving fit perfectly, 274 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,160 and there was a third person in the back seat. 275 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:43,680 Why was you going so fast? 276 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,560 We knew it was one of the sons, 277 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,320 and suspect number one was Nasim. 278 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:15,720 Ultimately, his own mother, Shmou, agreed to testify 279 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,520 that it was Nasim that actually committed the murder of Gelareh... 280 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:27,000 which really corroborated the other evidence that we had uncovered. 281 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:35,080 I have no doubts that Nasim actually fired that gun that killed Gelareh. 282 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,640 We brought criminal charges on the state charge of capital murder 283 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,880 against Ali and Nasim. 284 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,040 Guilty of capital murder. 285 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,040 That was the verdict today in the Ali Irsan trial. 286 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,200 Arguably, one of the longest murder trials in recent history 287 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,720 with one of the shortest jury deliberations. 288 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,520 Just 35 minutes. The next phase, sentencing. 289 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,560 In Texas, if you're charged with capital murder, 290 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,560 there are only two possible outcomes. 291 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,400 It's either life without parole, or the death penalty. 292 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,400 As defense attorneys, your duty is to your client, 293 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,200 and getting the best possible outcome for that client. 294 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,000 Sometimes we're in the business of damage control. 295 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,080 My name's Daniel Werlinger, 296 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:49,960 and I was one of Nasim Irsan's defense attorneys, uh, during his case. 297 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:58,480 The Nasim I saw was a young man who was very much lost, 298 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:03,960 but also seemed to have an understanding of what was... what he was facing, 299 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,840 and... and understood that, really, the only way to help himself 300 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:12,720 was to help us try and save some part of his life. 301 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,960 Once we started looking at Nasim's life, 302 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:25,880 it became apparent that Ali Irsan very much controlled his son, 303 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,080 and there was a lot of abuse 304 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:35,640 that ultimately caused Nasim to be a pawn in... in Ali's game. 305 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,720 My relationship with my father wasn't one 306 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,720 that I believe a normal kid has with their father. 307 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,680 My earliest memory was of my father beating me. 308 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,440 I was probably around the age of three or four, 309 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,840 and that was my earliest memory of him. 310 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,160 We went through a lot of... a lot of punishments 311 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,000 that people would say were extreme, 312 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,760 but, of course at the time, I felt like it was normal. 313 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:12,600 Everything from beatings to being stabbed by my parents. 314 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,240 Uh, the... the punishments were endless. 315 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,000 When my father wanted something, there was no choice. 316 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,440 He got what he wanted. 317 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,440 Nasim's treatment by his father was absolutely awful. 318 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,600 And no person should ever have to endure that, and there's no... 319 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,680 It's not a cultural thing. It's not a... It's not a discipline thing. 320 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,320 It's just abuse. 321 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,280 Ali Irsan did things to Nasim Irsan that warped him 322 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,240 and turned him from being someone who could be a normal, productive citizen 323 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:57,240 into being the cold, calculating foot soldier and muscle of Ali Irsan. 324 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,520 Once we really started digging into the case, 325 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,920 and realizing the level of abuse 326 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,840 that Nasim experienced at the hands of his father, 327 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,640 we knew right then and there, 328 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:11,800 this was going to be, uh, the cornerstone of our defense. 329 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:18,280 This was the way in which we were going to save his life. 330 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,640 Breaking developments in a story we have been tracking since 2012. 331 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,000 A new guilty plea in the so-called honor killings. 332 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,960 Nasim Irsan made his way to court today shackled and disheveled. 333 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,600 Today, Irsan took a plea deal. 334 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,400 His capital murder charge was dismissed in exchange for him going to prison 335 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,000 for 40 years for murder. 336 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,160 Meanwhile, Irsan's father is on death row for killing his daughter's husband. 337 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,640 The reason why he entered a plea of guilty to murder 338 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,600 was because the facts and evidence were... 339 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,520 would've been proved beyond a reasonable doubt 340 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,960 that he was a party to one homicide. 341 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,680 Thankfully, he realized that 342 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:14,240 if he could be secured a guilty plea for a lesser charge of murder, 343 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,000 then that was the way to go. 344 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,280 I pled guilty because every time I go to court, 345 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,160 they're telling me that I may receive a life without parole sentence, 346 00:34:39,240 --> 00:34:43,280 or the death penalty sentence, for a crime that I didn't commit. 347 00:34:45,720 --> 00:34:51,600 See, the murder of Gelareh Bagherzadeh, I didn't personally have a hand in. 348 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:59,080 So, my only option, I felt, was to plead guilty to this charge 349 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,680 and receive the least amount of time that I could. 350 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,440 So this is why you take pleas on the record. 351 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:22,240 Um, it's not uncommon that, um, once a person gets to prison 352 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:27,960 that they all of a sudden decide they're not guilty of an offense. 353 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,880 Even if he wants to say now that he didn't pull the trigger, 354 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,640 it doesn't change the fact that he's guilty of murder. 355 00:35:35,240 --> 00:35:37,800 He was very much involved in this case. 356 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,240 And of course, in Texas, if you are a party to a crime, 357 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,920 you're guilty no matter what role you played in that offense, 358 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,280 whether you were the triggerman, a setup man or a getaway driver. 359 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:55,120 But, regardless of what Nasim tells you today versus what he said in the past, 360 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,000 the evidence is crystal clear 361 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,920 that Nasim's father is the mastermind of these offenses. 362 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,240 And if you take him out of the equation, none of this happens. 363 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,120 Nasim did not have an issue with Gelareh. 364 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,960 He did not have an issue with Coty Beavers. 365 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,960 Uh, his issue was that if his father told him to jump, 366 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,640 his response was, "How high?" 367 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:21,520 That was his issue. 368 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,720 I grew up with an abusive father. 369 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,280 Sometimes those figures have a certain influence on us, 370 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,520 that they want... that we want to please them. 371 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,920 We want to do whatever it takes, regardless of how evil their plans are. 372 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,000 I don't want anybody to get abused. 373 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,520 I don't want anybody to get beaten, but that doesn't justify murder. 374 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,440 That doesn't justify murder in any way. 375 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:08,920 And in this specific case, Gelareh did nothing to this guy. 376 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,920 Gelareh did absolutely nothing to this guy. 377 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:17,440 If, you know, if someone else abuses you, you don't go murder someone else. 378 00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:29,160 I can't say for certain who shot Gelareh Bagherzadeh 379 00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:30,480 because I wasn't... 380 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,520 I wasn't there at the actual moment that she was shot. 381 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,200 Now, I can only assume that it was my father. 382 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,680 I stress the fact that 383 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:44,680 I... my job, personally, was only that of... of mandate. 384 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,400 I was at the house and I was... I was forced to wake up, 385 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,360 and when... when the murder was done, 386 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,440 I was forced to take the pistol that was used, the gun that was used, 387 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:56,960 and bury it in the backyard. 388 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:08,480 Wow. 389 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,640 Uh, well. 390 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:19,280 Uh, my first impression is, I... I don't believe it. 391 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,840 I don't believe what he's saying. 392 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:28,880 I think he is just trying to find a way to get out of prison early. 393 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,480 What he is saying, that... 394 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,160 he didn't do it, and he doesn't know who did it... 395 00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:38,320 ...'cause he wasn't there. I... I don't... 396 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,400 I don't believe it. 397 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,680 Even if what he just said is true, 398 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:50,120 which I strongly doubt... it doesn't change anything. 399 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:55,800 He refused to say anything after her murder. 400 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,280 Whether he was the one who pulled the trigger or not, 401 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,840 he could have gone at any point and said something. 402 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,640 And that would have saved Coty Beavers's life. 403 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,000 It's a little aggravating. 404 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,040 It's a little aggravating. 405 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,200 I say a little... ...but more than a little. 406 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,720 It's done. It's finished. 407 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,760 You know, you pleaded guilty. 408 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,960 You went through the entire process. It wasn't like an overnight process. 409 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:32,080 Years went by, and then after all these years, 410 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,840 you just come and say, "Oh, well, it wasn't me." 411 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,520 "I don't even know who did it." 412 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,840 It's... it's insulting in a way. It's... 413 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,840 You know? It's insulting to everybody who was involved. 414 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,320 Do I think that he was the mastermind behind the whole thing? 415 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,840 No. Everybody knows that's not true. 416 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,680 But, he had his chances. 417 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,000 He could have... 418 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,360 ...he could have helped his own conscience. 419 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:01,440 Big time. 420 00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:03,920 But he didn't. 421 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,000 I'm not a murderer. I've never even hurt an animal. 422 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,400 We're so numb to emotion. We just do what we're told. 423 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,920 Even... even somebody talking about murder, it doesn't affect you. 424 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,440 I didn't know those people. 425 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,080 I didn't blame Nesreen for leaving, 426 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,560 I didn't blame my sister for wanting to get out of the house. 427 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,200 I didn't blame my sister for going somewhere where she felt safe, 428 00:40:47,240 --> 00:40:50,240 because I tried to do that, and I wasn't able. 429 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,800 I never thought anything she did was wrong, 430 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:59,200 and I never thought anything this serious would come out of it. 431 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,400 I'm a very, very bad man. 432 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,480 I'm very bad. I don't know how many lives have to be lost. 433 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,600 Nasim, listen to me, baby. 434 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,320 I'm dangerous. I'm a very, very dangerous man. 435 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,040 So, yeah, that phone call is hard to explain 436 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:28,040 if you're only looking at those statements by itself. 437 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,480 I didn't say that I killed those people. 438 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,520 I said that they were dead because of me. 439 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,640 They were dead because of me because I could've said something to the police. 440 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,600 I could have said something. Even though I might've been killed for it. 441 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,600 I... I... There's a chance I could have stopped that. 442 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:49,040 I feel morally culpable, but not as much as I used to. 443 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,240 I feel that there's a... there's a sense of blame, 444 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:57,840 but not... not so much that I lost my life behind... in prison but behind it, 445 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,560 because I didn't do anything, and... 446 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:05,120 People say that I should have stopped it, I knew enough to stop it, 447 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,240 but they say that from a distance. 448 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,240 They say that not being in the situation, the predicament that I was in. 449 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,800 At times, as a child, you do want your father's approval, 450 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,040 but there's times when you... 451 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,040 you just give up and you don't care anymore. 452 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,000 And you do what you're told. 39256

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