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The metal juicer was here.
The deceased was laying with his feet here and his head here.
Maybe he got to here and lost his balance at the top
and then kept going.
What do these show?
Without being racist, the Chinese burn.
I thought it was something to do with their intimate life.
They could have been, like, sexual play.
The direct cause of death was blunt force head and neck injury.
He's been bashed.
So, the Christian in me is thinking there needs to be justice.
There's a...a fight.
It was bang, bang.
Put him away.
You tell me that you wish to bring in a verdict of not guilty
without hearing anything more.
Is anybody else blown away completely with this development?
Listen to me. He's saying the Crown has convinced him he's guilty of...
- No, no, no.. - That's not what she's saying at all.
I'm seriously starting to get the shits with half the people in there.
Fuck. I'm losing it.
When a person is accused of a crime,
it's often the job of a jury to decide their fate.
But do juries always get it right?
To find out, for the first time in Australia,
we're following a jury through a criminal trial...
Can you indicate to the jury what signs there are for you
that death has occurred by strangulation?
..with actors restaging a real case word for word.
Did you find any blood on the juicer?
No.
But just as in a real court, the jurors are everyday people.
- That was hard to watch, huh? - Blimey.
We'll follow 12 jurors
as they work to decipher a baffling criminal trial.
It's a strange place to fall dead.
Ai-yi-yi.
Does that mean it's beyond reasonable doubt?
Mm. No, it's actually the definition of reasonable doubt.
Will the jury convict an innocent man?
Hang on. He's supposed to convince us, right?
Or will they free one who is guilty?
I'm very unlikely to change my mind.
The jurors reveal their strengths and their prejudices.
I totally recognise that I do have a bias.
"Thou shalt not kill" really rings home.
I only have one opinion of criminals. They're guilty.
They're all liars.
Will our 12 jurors arrive at the same verdict
as the original trial?
Is the accused guilty or not guilty?
In the name of Allah the Beneficent...
- ..I solemnly... - ..and sincerely declare...
..that I will give a true verdict...
..according to the evidence.
Day six of the manslaughter trial continues.
In line with the original trial,
the judge has asked the jury for an early verdict
before the defence starts their case.
I know for a fact I'm not convinced.
- Yeah. - For a fact.
- I'm a not guilty, already. - Mm.
She's not asking us to say whether he's guilty or not.
She's asking you to say is he NOT guilty.
Correct. That's the only decision we can come up with,
whether he's not guilty right now. Yeah.
If the prosecution has failed to convince the jury
of Shaun Yang's guilt beyond reasonable doubt,
the trial ends today.
- All 12 of us have to say... - "Stop it right now."
- ..he's not guilty. - "Not guilty."
It can only be a not guilty verdict to stop it right now.
Yeah. All not guilty.
But the trouble is, I'm...
Can we not at the same time be not convinced by him,
but also not convinced of his innocence?
- Yeah. - Mmm.
I think this is a really difficult ask for the jury.
They want to hear the full story
before they have to make any decisions,
and they're being asked to make a preliminary decision.
I think they're really confused about what their role is here.
I think if everyone has reasonable doubt,
- no-one is convinced... - One way or the other.
And therefore, if you're not past reasonable doubt,
- then you're not guilty. - Yeah, then it's...not guilty.
Are we...are we absolutely saying he is not guilty, finish the trial?
All 12 of us say yes, OK, trial's finished.
If it's not guilty, done and dusted for the day.
- That's right. - Trial's over.
Yeah.
I think he's guilty of manslaughter.
Like, he's admitted it himself. "We had a fight."
To me, it's pretty clear-cut.
At the end of the day, there's a dead body.
Well, yeah. At the end of the day, someone's lost their life.
- Exactly. - That's what...
- There was only two in the room. - Yeah.
We need to be focusing on the fact someone's dead.
You know, lights out. They're not coming back.
Exactly.
No-one gets to see inside a jury deliberation room.
This is rare insight to seeing how juries actually make decisions.
I'm not saying absolutely that he's not guilty,
but I'm not convinced he's guilty yet.
- So you want to hear more evidence? - I agree.
I am not... I want to hear a lot more.
Who would like to hear more?
Sure.
This one doesn't have to be anonymous, right?
- No, it doesn't have to. - It doesn't?
- It has to be... - We've all got our hands up, so...
- Well, mine are not. - So...so we don't want to?
- Oh. - Oh, OK. That's fine.
Honestly, if it would be up to me, that's where it would end.
So, it's 9/3 at the moment.
We're asking ourselves the wrong question.
It's not a question of do we want to hear more evidence?
It's not that.
It's...it's can we unanimously agree at this point,
based on everything that we've heard, that he's not guilty?
I mean, I don't think an hour's worth of discussion
is going to change the point of view of nine people.
Personally, I don't know how anyone
can be completely convinced right now.
You know, I hope that's not a precursor
of...of it being a...a tricky thing.
It was interesting that the room wanted to continue hearing more,
when it felt like we didn't believe beyond reasonable doubt
that he had committed this crime.
But I can understand it because it allows you to continue hearing more,
which delays your decision-making,
which is the hardest part out of all of this.
As jury foreperson,
it's Guy's job to deliver the midpoint verdict to the judge.
Mr Foreperson, please stand.
What is the decision of the jury?
We'd like to continue, to get more evidence.
Thank you, Mr Foreperson.
You may be seated.
This trial will proceed.
With the decision to continue, the focus shifts to the defence case.
Their strongest weapon - to see doubt in the jurors' minds.
Mr Benedetti, are you ready for your first witness?
Yes, Your Honour.
Defence calls Victor Mineau.
The defence begins by calling into question the safety of the staircase.
You are a builder by occupation.
Yes, I am.
And did you carry out a staircase inspection
on behalf of the company that you work for?
Yes, I did.
Did this staircase comply with building codes of New South Wales
associated with staircases?
No, it didn't.
Did you have difficulty going down these stairs?
I had to be mindful to not overstep and miss the tread.
Yes.
Why do we have building codes about staircases?
Because people fall down them when they're unapproved, correct?
Yes.
Thank you. That will be all.
I have no further questions, Your Honour.
I take it even though you've building work done internally,
the council doesn't come along and say,
"Pull down those stairs and build some more compliant ones"?
Not that I'm aware of, no.
One goes up and down as one has to, given the stairs that are there?
Yes.
No further questions.
I am convinced that it's just that easy to have a split-second slip.
You don't grab the banister correctly,
or if there's a bit of water on your hands...
Anything could have happened. Anything could have happened.
Is it possible that he fell down the stairs? Yes.
Someone falling down the stairs and having visibly no injuries
we know is possible.
But is that reasonable doubt?
Mr Benedetti, are you ready for your next witness?
Defence calls Hayden Jagger.
With Carlo's cause of death still unclear,
the defence calls their own forensic expert.
Professor. Full name is Hayden Grierson Jagger?
Yes.
You are a forensic pathologist by occupation?
Yes.
So, far as your practical experience is concerned,
I think you've taken part in many thousands of post-mortems.
Oh, I have conducted personally... oh, about 15,000. Yes.
- If we could just go then immediately to this case. - Mm.
On the material that you have been given,
what caused the death of Mr Levetto?
Well, to me, Dr Palazar, who performed the autopsy,
couldn't, in my opinion, distinguish between which of those injuries
was more likely to have caused the actual death.
We know that there were no skull fractures,
but could the injury to the brain have been caused
by the head impacting on a hard object,
like a wall or a floor or object of that type?
Yes.
In terms of the staircase itself,
if the head impacted with the solid timber structures of the staircase,
could that cause the injuries to the head?
Yes.
There was bloodstaining on the handrail going up the stairs.
Could the injury to the chin
be occasioned by hitting that wooden handrail?
Yes. There's nothing specific about this chin injury.
Did you see any stigmata of strangulation?
Well, there was some bruising on the neck,
but excluding that or putting that to one side, if you like,
the things one usually sees in cases of manual or ligature strangulation
were just not present.
Professor, as a result, do you think that the cause of death
was strangulation or attempted strangulation?
I think the cause of death here is obscure.
Thank you.
That will be all.
The cause of death for Carlos is complex.
I mean, if medical professionals
and people that are meant to be experts
can't even agree on something, it's like, well, how do you expect
an everyday person coming in on a jury to know?
It's really complex.
The prosecution now cross-examines the defence witness.
Professor, would you say that it's highly unlikely
that those marks or bruises were caused by a fall,
given the number and the complexity of them?
I...
I would not support a simple fall
as causing this entire complex of bruising.
But usually with these sorts of injuries -
and I think you've alluded to this -
a person doesn't die immediately, do they?
Well, most people who fall on the back of their head don't die at all,
but if they ARE going to die,
there'll often be substantial bleeding
between the inner membrane lining of the skull
and the outer membrane covering the brain,
and Mr Levetto didn't have that.
Would you agree that the injury to the back of the head or the brain
is more significant than the injury to the chin?
Well, there are two bruises to the skull at the back.
Because they are there, they must be considered significant.
What caused them?
Obviously the head impacted on something twice
or something impacted on the head twice.
If we could please share exhibit C with the witness.
And would you agree, would you not,
that if one holds the bowl near the spout
and uses the rest of it to strike someone, such as the deceased,
that would be consistent with an injury to his chin,
would it not?
It could be, yes.
Whether on impact that would produce
that somewhat complex laceration to the chin or not,
I would say it's possible.
Alright, so you've been forwarded some photographs overnight
by the Crown, have you not?
Uh, yes. Thank you.
If you can go to 38.
Yes, I've got 38.
The bloodstaining is behind his head
and not up very far away from the rug.
Do you agree with that?
I agree it doesn't go very far.
And, Doctor, if indeed the deceased
was struck in an area that was already bleeding,
with an object such as this juicer bowl,
you would expect the blood to go behind him
as we see here, wouldn't you?
You're asking me, are you likely to get a spray of blood
from the impact?
- Yes. - And the answer is yes.
There appears to be some very dark bruising
over the area of the voice box, does there not?
Yes, and to the right of the voice box as well.
If we can now go to the chest area - photograph 5.
In relation to the injuries to that area,
given the severity of the bruising that you see,
would the marks on the chest be suggestive of a struggle?
Yes.
Between the protagonists?
Yes.
Given that the bruising on the neck
shows reasonably heavy bruising on the area around the voice box
and some bruising on the left side of the neck,
could the application of pressure there
have caused the heart to slow and then stop?
Yes.
Thank you. I have no further questions.
It was surprising that the defence had presented some witnesses
that were agreeing with what the prosecution had been stating.
After I heard the prosecution speak,
I thought, "Oh, my God, he's actually guilty."
Didn't...didn't expect that.
So I'm shocked about that.
But the defence barrister is not done yet.
After the prosecution's cross-examination of the pathologist,
some jurors now believe Shaun could be guilty.
The defence has one last chance to convince the jury
that Carlo may have died from other causes.
Professor, in terms of Dr Palazar -
I think you trained Dr Palazar, didn't you, many years ago?
I had some part in his training. Yes.
And in some occupations there are clear, singular answers.
Two and two must equal four.
In forensic medicine, of which you are a specialist,
it doesn't always work out that way, does it?
Uh, yes. I agree. Mm.
With all of your experience,
you're unable to assist us any further as to the cause of death?
Well, I don't want to muddy the waters.
Um...but I'm about to.
Now, Dr Palazar reported
that this chap had left ventricular hypertrophy,
which is an increase in the muscle in the lower left chamber of the heart.
Going back through his medical records,
I noted that he'd gone to see his doctor
because he was worried his heart was racing.
He had an ECG, which showed a number of disordered extra contractions
affecting his heart.
Now, that means that the orderly electrical transmissions to his heart
was effectively misfiring,
and that was one of the reasons why his medication was increased.
Now, it is speculative, but one must wonder
if he had a period of cardiac dysrhythmia quite spontaneously,
he may have had a version of that in association with his ultimate death.
And that worries me because there is, as I've already said,
absolutely no clear-cut cause of death in this case.
And you think he may have had a heart attack?
He may have died because of a cardiac event. Yes.
It may have been compounded or caused by a stressful situation.
There's no way of telling.
Thank you. That will be all.
Anything further, Mr Crown?
Yes, Your Honour.
Professor, in relation to this most recent statement by you,
you didn't consider that to be significant enough
to include in your initial report?
It wasn't that I didn't consider it significant enough.
I was rereading his medical notes last night,
and this began to worry me.
But in terms of there being a heart attack, as my friend has said,
was there any evidence at post-mortem to indicate
that he had a heart attack?
Um, except for the fact that he had increased muscle mass, no.
And that in itself is not evidence of him having a heart attack.
It is evidence, though,
of the soil, if you like, being ready for a heart attack.
But nothing was observed by Dr Palazar that would support that?
Nothing at all.
Thank you.
Thank you for attending today, Professor.
You may now leave the court.
Thank you.
Thank you, Professor Jagger.
Mr Benedetti, am I to understand that Professor Jagger
was your final witness?
Yes, Your Honour.
Dr Jagger was the final witness for the defence.
With the defence case complete,
all of the trial evidence has now been heard.
This is all the jury will have to decide the fate of Shaun Yang.
How's everyone feeling? What are we leaning towards specifically?
I'm reserving judgement at this point.
I'm hoping that what the judge is going to give us
is going to help us make our decision.
We're not going to hear any evidence?
- I think that's it. - No more. There is no more anything.
Guilty or not guilty?
Do you think it's too early to even say?
I mean, I'm sure there's people...
I'm sure all of us have one... one way or another.
- Like, I think we're all... - I do. Not guilty.
Because so much is inconclusive
and you can say, "Yeah, that could've happened,
"that could have happened," and so it's all very speculative.
And they think he contributed because they had an argument,
so it's inevitable that... that whole scenario led to what...
He was involved, it just doesn't... I think that's...
Is there anyone here, like, in the room
that is, like, "Yep, 100% guilty"?
- Not 100%. - Is anyone...is anyone...
..well, leaning more towards guilty, then, let's go?
Anyone?
I found it... Yeah, I thought it was...
I think he's played a big part in what has happened.
I'm starting to believe that.
And I...just the facts of the... the blows and the repeated blows
- and the location of the blows... - Mm.
..seems like the information is...is against Shaun.
So, here's my question.
So, the prosecutor's going on about the blood splatter
and whether, you know, if he was hit again,
but there's no blood found on the jug.
He keeps saying "what appears to be blood", which drives me crazy.
We're talking about the bowl or the jug?
- When you say jug, you mean...? - The bowl?
- The juicer. - The bowl.
The evidence clearly says there was no human blood on the jug.
I thought it was inconclusive.
But the evidence clearly says there's DNA, Guy.
Are you dismissing Carlo's DNA on the spout?
- No. - Right.
To me, that's enough.
No, but he...he could not say where the blood splatter came from.
A court case isn't about finding the truth.
Jurors think that they're detectives of truth.
That's not their job at all.
Their job is to consider the facts
that are provided to them in the courtroom,
and decide whether those facts are enough
to satisfy the charge the accused is against.
Because I can't see how you'd hit him in the area where there's blood
and not have any blood on the...on the weapon.
Yeah, but what if you got hit there and the blood came out that way?
That evidence has not been...
No-one has said that.
What about that red incision of the photograph,
at the back of Carlo's head?
When people are playing the detective,
that can sway your mind a bit,
and I think you might...
There's a risk you'll come back to that theory.
- Yeah, whoa, whoa. - But you're talking about this...
Hold on. Guys, guys.
My question is, how could he hit the blood
and not have blood on the weapon?
The jury room is definitely harder than the courtroom.
The courtroom is interesting.
The jury room is not.
Unfortunately.
If we're told that we have to believe the test
where there's no human blood found on that jug,
how can he keep suggesting
that Shaun kept hitting Carlo in the area where the blood is?
- From a...from a test standpoint? - I've got to be...
You've got to believe the test, haven't you?
- No, nothing is... - The test was absolutely definite.
- There's no human blood. - Yeah. I agree.
We really need to come together as a group
and really... ..just get to the bottom of everything.
There's been a lot of talk and a lot of stories
and misleading information just to try and get us away from some...
We just need to...um...
..yeah, kind of block the noise out and just get down to the facts.
Let me show you visually. You could get hit...
OK. The first blow there,
second blow here.
There's no blood here. There's only blood here.
You can get hit here and you could turn your head
- and the spillage of blood could... - Yes, it could.
Yeah. So that's what...
I found it really frustrating that people speculated
a little too much that then people would get confused
about what HAD actually happened.
But there's experts here saying it's highly irregular.
That's his opinion. This is my opinion.
- It's everyone's opinion. - Yeah.
So I think that can be dangerous to fill in the blanks.
That's what I reckon that's what happened.
It's...everyone's different versions.
But I'd go with the pathologist, who's a scientist.
What is it exactly he does for a living? Write songs for children?
Hello.
Today's session has wrapped up. Thank you very much.
It's been a very, very big day for you all.
I think as a jury we could get it wrong, which is worrying.
I've never had the responsibility of making a decision like this.
It's black and white. It's a yes or a no.
You're either guilty or you're not.
So, given there are only two options,
I think it's quite easy to get it wrong.
After a week of jury duty,
friendships have formed, opinions have changed,
and jurors continue to reveal their differences.
I was brought up Catholic
and about 15 years ago I converted over to Muslim.
I still obey by most of the Muslim laws, but not all of them.
For instance, now I should be doing Ramadan,
but I'm not, so...probably get in trouble for that one.
I was in a Catholic school all my life,
and the nuns always thought I was going to be a nun.
I said, "I've decided I'm going to rewrite the Bible
"when I get out of school."
She wasn't too happy about that.
When I was a teenager, that was a time when Soviet Union
was crumbling and collapsing and everything around it.
I came to Australia in 1993 and I came by myself.
Definitely consider myself Aussie. Yeah.
Don't be fooled by this accent.
True blue Aussie.
You need that diversity of opinion.
You want those different experiences, different backgrounds.
It's what a jury is.
We're here to do the right thing.
The trial has entered its final phase.
The barristers get one more chance to address the jury
with their persuasive closing arguments.
Is everyone ready for the jury?
- Yes, Your Honour. - Yes, Your Honour.
Please bring in the jury.
In my head, I'm leaning towards not guilty.
But perhaps there's something that maybe I'm thinking,
"Well, that was intentional."
I don't know. We'll see how it goes.
I'm... "Aah!"
It's the job of a good prosecutor to provide a roadmap
through all the evidence that was provided throughout the trial.
It has to be done in great detail and in an order
that is comprehensible and logical for the jury to understand
if they're going to prove their case beyond reasonable doubt.
Members of the jury.
The Crown says that in relation to the evidence that you've heard
that it is sufficient to establish the charge of manslaughter.
Now, in this case, members of the jury, the Crown relies on
what is called circumstantial evidence.
Circumstantial evidence is evidence of a basic fact
from which you are asked to draw a conclusion as to further facts.
There are a number of circumstances in this case that are relevant,
and they are...
One, the accused and the deceased lived together.
Two, the deceased told Mr Gentile
that the relationship was deteriorating.
Three, Carlo relayed further concerns regarding his relationship.
Four, there was evidence of an argument on 11 March, 2022.
Mr Clifford Reid refers to that.
Five, crashing noises were heard by Miss Cooper
on 12 March at about 8:15am.
Six, she heard the accused screaming and crying shortly thereafter.
Seven, at 9:12am, a 000 call was made.
Eight, ambulance officer Alistair Lewis
said that the accused was sitting at the bottom of the stairs
with the deceased's head in his lap,
and he observed the juicer.
Nine, the accused's conversation with Senior Constable Reynolds,
which included, "We had a fight."
10, the accused's conversation with Mr Reid, "We had an argument."
11, the accused's conversation with the Detective Sergeant Adams,
"I don't remember. Carlo argued with me.
"He criticised me a lot."
12, damage to the beam in the kitchen,
the render below it and carrot pulp around the chipped render.
13, bloodstaining on the walls and behind the deceased's head.
14, the Chinese burn.
15, the evidence of Dr Palazar regarding the head and neck,
the injuries not occasioned by a fall
and no evidence of heart attack.
16, the deceased's DNA was on the spout of the juicer
and in the dent.
17, evidence of blunt force injury to the brain,
consistent with a fall to the back of the head.
Having listed the key facts of the case,
the prosecutor now pulls everything together to explain Carlo's death.
The Crown says that what happened here is that the relationship
between the deceased and the accused was deteriorating.
It appears that the accused has lost his temper with Carlo,
that he had a fight with him -
because they probably had a lot of fights -
but this fight escalated from verbal altercation
to a physical altercation, and Shaun Yang just hasn't stopped.
You know for a fact that what Felicity Cooper heard from next door
was this juicer bowl being thrown against the beam in the kitchen
with some considerable force
and landed on the floor in the kitchen.
But the juicer was found next to the body of the deceased
at the bottom of the stairs, not the kitchen.
The Crown says that's indicative of the juicer bowl being picked up...
..and having been used by the accused to strike Carlo Levetto,
causing the injury to his chin.
Then there's the injuries to the chest,
and the considerable bruising were caused by Shaun Yang
beating or striking Carlo around the chest area.
There is considerable bruising in the area of the voice box.
You might ask yourselves, members of the jury,
using your combined common sense and experience,
how would those injuries occur falling down the stairs?
Now, something, SOMETHING has applied considerable force
to cause this bruising,
and the Crown says this is Shaun Yang.
The Crown says he made these marks with his hands.
As this assault continued -
that is the striking to the chin, the falling over,
the damage to the back of the head,
the striking to the chest,
the strangulation -
there would have been, to any reasonable person, a realisation
that it was dangerous and posed a risk of serious injury.
The question of the heart.
Now, if indeed it was the application of force
and the head injury and the chest injury, the injury to the chin,
and finally as a result there was a failure to the heart,
that is still manslaughter.
Members of the jury, if all these other injuries
place enough stress on the body for the heart to give out
and they are caused by the accused,
then that is sufficient for manslaughter.
So, members of the jury, the Crown says
that it has established its case beyond reasonable doubt,
and that you will find the accused guilty of manslaughter.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mr Crown.
I think this is the right time to take a break
and we will resume with the defence closing remarks.
Thank you.
I don't think it's ever been that quiet.
- I'm enjoying it. - We're all pondering.
Somebody fart, quick.
Yeah.
I'm enjoying the silence.
I'm doing...I'm doing mental gymnastics in my brain.
Yeah, absolutely.
It's the most convinced I've ever been by the Crown.
- He was certainly the most... - You know? I definitely bought that.
- Mm. - Um...
Definitively?
No, I...I'm not saying... But I've been leaning...
I'm now leaning toward... Like, it's shocking for me to even say that.
- But... You know. - I'm the same.
It's starting to sway that way now.
I mean, that story had very few holes in it.
I think everything that the Crown said made sense.
He didn't try and hide anything. He wasn't challenging anything.
But he basically put forward the charge of manslaughter.
And that's...that's all plausible, what the prosecutor said.
But beyond reasonable doubt? Not...not for me.
The prosecution put that evidence in a narration.
There's nothing definite in that.
I don't think there's...there's any proof of...like, undoubted proof
that...that he's guilty.
And what was the strangulation?
I mean, I've just realised that what they're saying is
he was so angry that then he grabbed him around the throat
just to finish him off, but...he obviously didn't.
- Finish him off? - Well...
- Well, you don't know. - Yeah, that...
They had experts say
it's not consistent with falling down the stairs.
And he...the prosecutor summarised that.
He repeated that.
Yeah. It's not consistent.
Now do you...do you get it?
- Yeah. - The extent of his injuries.
- Yeah. - That's how he died.
So hypothetically, if they did have a fight, the Crown said,
"If these injuries are enough for the heart to give out,
- "then that is manslaughter." - That is still manslaughter. Yeah.
- And that's where... - He just had to contribute.
He just had to contribute, right?
All he had to do is hit him once,
and that's...it's contributed to trauma that led to his death.
- Even if it was self-defence? - Technically it's manslaughter.
- Yeah. - What do you think?
- What would I think? - Yes.
There are people that have made up their minds.
They already made up their minds?
I think there are a few people that have made up their minds. Guilty.
Oh, God.
That's what the evidence is showing us.
Yeah.
If he contributed to the trauma, that it led to his death.
If he... Even a little bit.
Even if he contributed a little bit...
- Could have been anything. - ..it's still manslaughter.
The Crown provided a series of events,
and that was very compelling.
And I thought, "Wow, that's it.
"That's the case, and that's what happened."
I think it's the morning, they had a kerfuffle.
- There was irritation... - I think there was a bit of tension.
There was a bit of tension.
- It's a boiling point. - And it was just deteriorating.
It's a boiling point.
Every single person is capable of being that angry
that they can't control themselves, definitely.
Every single person.
Anybody here been in a fit of rage?
Uncontrollable?
Yep.
- You just can't control, yeah? - Absolutely.
Have you seen red before?
When you get so angry, you see the colour red?
- Haze. - Oh, plenty of times.
The extreme anger.
A couple of times that's happened to me and I've had to, yeah,
really stop myself before I went one step too far.
Testosterones were going through and I was shaking
and just felt like I lost control of myself, mm.
And your body, like, the adrenaline takes over...
- The adrenaline, yeah. - ..and you feel more powerful.
And you shake and everything when you're finished.
- Have you been in a physical... - Uncontrollable.
Yes, yes.
Good people can do bad things, for sure.
If we agree that there's a fight, though,
and that that led to manslaughter,
how do we know the fight wasn't self-defence?
That's not for us to decide.
We're here to decide if the actions that he took
led to Carlos dying.
- Mm. - Yes, they did.
Craig was very adamant that he was guilty.
I won't change my mind. I was like, "I will die on this hill."
Mr Benedetti...
..I invite you to present the closing remarks for the defence.
Thank you, Your Honour.
Shaun Yang's barrister will now work
to undo the gains made by the prosecution.
Defence closing argument is there to poke holes
into the prosecution's case, to find gaps, to find that reasonable doubt.
As I mentioned to you when the trial commenced,
you - and that's all of you - must obey...
An old-fashioned word, I accept.
Nonetheless, you must obey Her Honour's directions of law to you.
You must accept her directions of law to you as being the law.
You can't allow sympathy or prejudice
to play a part in your deliberations.
You know Mr Yang is homosexual.
The case is not about whatever views
you may or may not have about human behaviour.
That's got nothing to do with the case.
You can't speculate.
That's what you're not permitted to do.
Now, this is a circumstantial case.
There's so many gaps in this case that are cause for concern.
There are so many gaps in the evidence that we say
the prosecution has failed to prove to you that Mr Yang is guilty
of manslaughter beyond reasonable doubt.
I want to take you through the many holes in the prosecution's case.
The Crown told you that Miss Cooper would have heard
the juicer hitting the wall.
There's no evidence of that.
She doesn't say that at all.
That's just speculation.
And where's the evidence that the juicer struck the wall
with great force?
There isn't any.
The force of the juicer being thrown is just speculation.
Mr Gentile gives evidence, you will remember,
about how Mr Levetto said he was considering
leaving the relationship.
He was concerned about Shaun's behaviour.
Well, members of the jury, that stands in direct contrast
to the observations of Mr Reid.
Mr Reid used to live with the accused.
He knew him very well, and he was, as it were, voluble and expressive,
but never physical in arguments.
He also said they were going away with the deceased and the accused
on a holiday, a holiday to China together.
Dr Palazar is asked about the bruising to the chest,
and he agrees that if the fingers and hands are placed
high up on the chest and neck in resuscitation,
that could be an explanation for bruising.
There's a whole range of things are possibilities.
He says there are a lot of variables,
and he agrees that we just don't know enough.
He thinks it is a combination of injuries...
..and that it was a result of blunt-force trauma.
A lot of people get confused about what blunt-force trauma is.
Blunt-force trauma does not mean an intentional attack. It can.
You smash your head into this table,
that is blunt-force trauma.
Police had to physically restrain the accused
to make sure he didn't interfere with the crime scene.
If he got a couple of bruises on his wrist,
then that's the way it goes.
If you don't want to be handcuffed and you are resisting
and flapping your arms around, there's a lot more physical contact
and scope for injury.
Frida Martin gave evidence that the DNA as found on the juicer
is DNA of the deceased, but not one drop of blood.
Frida Martin could not establish any human blood on the juicer.
The blood must have some method of avoiding the object.
Some James Bond-style juicer that goes whack, whack!
Now, the Crown said in the opening of the case, and I quote,
"It may well be that the deceased has fallen over
"and hit the back of his head, because there is an abrasion there,
"and that could have caused brain damage.
"And then may well be that the accused has placed his hands
"around the neck of the deceased
"and caused the injuries occasioned to the neck."
Members of the jury, be very, very careful
about equating phrases like "it may well be"
and "it could be"
to "beyond reasonable doubt".
"It may well be"
is not the criminal standard of "beyond reasonable doubt".
It is far less.
"Could be" can mean a lot of things.
It could be the case, or it may not be the case.
You know that there was, even according to the Crown case,
a loving relationship between these two men over a long period of time.
You've heard that there's no suggestion
of what could be described as a motive to kill.
So please...don't speculate.
This is not Hercule Poirot where a hidden motive
will suddenly emerge at the last moment.
Suspicion is not enough.
Sympathy plays no part.
None.
The prosecution has failed to satisfy each element
of the offence of manslaughter beyond reasonable doubt.
This is because there is simply not enough direct evidence
for the prosecution to prove their case.
While it might be frustrating that we will never know what happened,
the jury cannot speculate and fill in the gaps of what likely happened.
If you are not satisfied with each element of manslaughter
beyond reasonable doubt...
..then you must find Mr Yang not guilty.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mr Benedetti.
Members of the jury, you may retire now.
Thank you.
When the jurors return in the morning,
they'll start their formal deliberation.
The trial and Shaun's fate is theirs to decide.
Both arguments are compelling,
and at the moment I'm indecisive in terms of where I sit
because both of those presentations are correct,
but they delivered two different conclusions.
The prosecutor was very convincing, but he made up a story
like we all made up stories in the first couple of days.
There's a lot of "could have, might have"
where the defence barrister actually went after that and said,
"Well, there's a lot of doubt."
And that's the key word here, is there a lot of doubt?
I think the defence barrister influenced me
more than the prosecutor.
Tomorrow, I don't think anyone's going to have anything
to hide behind.
They're going to have to really put themselves out there and
say what they think and why they think that.
Next time...
So, first of all, your position, do you think guilty or not guilty?
I can't even answer it.
..the pressure is on as the jury must reach a unanimous verdict.
Yeah, I agree, there's a number of possibilities
that could have happened that day, a number.
But can they shift each other's thinking?
The DNA on the juicer?!
Guys, guys, guys, it's five against one.
That was like a pack of wolves trying to get him to conform.
None of these injuries are severe enough.
There was no brain haemorrhage.
You know, like, what's the use of trying to make a point
when you know they're not going to buckle?
They won't get you and do this to you.
There was no signs of openness to be thinking any differently.
The thing is, we don't all have to agree.
- The problem is we do. - No, we don't.
This test of our jury system comes to an end
with a verdict that will shock the entire courtroom.
Mr Shaun Yang is charged with the manslaughter of Carlo Levetto
How say you? Is the accused guilty or not guilty?
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