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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:05,920 The metal juicer was here. 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:11,320 The deceased was laying with his feet here and his head here. 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,720 Maybe he got to here and lost his balance at the top 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,080 and then kept going. 5 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:20,040 What do these show? 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,160 Without being racist, the Chinese burn. 7 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,640 I thought it was something to do with their intimate life. 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,920 They could have been, like, sexual play. 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:32,800 The direct cause of death was blunt force head and neck injury. 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:35,560 He's been bashed. 11 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,000 So, the Christian in me is thinking there needs to be justice. 12 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,400 There's a...a fight. 13 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:41,840 It was bang, bang. 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,480 Put him away. 15 00:00:43,480 --> 00:00:47,840 You tell me that you wish to bring in a verdict of not guilty 16 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,720 without hearing anything more. 17 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,360 Is anybody else blown away completely with this development? 18 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:59,200 Listen to me. He's saying the Crown has convinced him he's guilty of... 19 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,280 - No, no, no.. - That's not what she's saying at all. 20 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,960 I'm seriously starting to get the shits with half the people in there. 21 00:01:04,960 --> 00:01:06,600 Fuck. I'm losing it. 22 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,640 When a person is accused of a crime, 23 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,760 it's often the job of a jury to decide their fate. 24 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,400 But do juries always get it right? 25 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,800 To find out, for the first time in Australia, 26 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,360 we're following a jury through a criminal trial... 27 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,040 Can you indicate to the jury what signs there are for you 28 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,400 that death has occurred by strangulation? 29 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:42,360 ..with actors restaging a real case word for word. 30 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:46,240 Did you find any blood on the juicer? 31 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:47,920 No. 32 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:53,000 But just as in a real court, the jurors are everyday people. 33 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,560 - That was hard to watch, huh? - Blimey. 34 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,480 We'll follow 12 jurors 35 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,920 as they work to decipher a baffling criminal trial. 36 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,080 It's a strange place to fall dead. 37 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:05,400 Ai-yi-yi. 38 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,560 Does that mean it's beyond reasonable doubt? 39 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,400 Mm. No, it's actually the definition of reasonable doubt. 40 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,040 Will the jury convict an innocent man? 41 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,600 Hang on. He's supposed to convince us, right? 42 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,360 Or will they free one who is guilty? 43 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:20,960 I'm very unlikely to change my mind. 44 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:26,600 The jurors reveal their strengths and their prejudices. 45 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,600 I totally recognise that I do have a bias. 46 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,560 "Thou shalt not kill" really rings home. 47 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,640 I only have one opinion of criminals. They're guilty. 48 00:02:34,640 --> 00:02:35,840 They're all liars. 49 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,400 Will our 12 jurors arrive at the same verdict 50 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:40,560 as the original trial? 51 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,120 Is the accused guilty or not guilty? 52 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,400 In the name of Allah the Beneficent... 53 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,880 - ..I solemnly... - ..and sincerely declare... 54 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:07,080 ..that I will give a true verdict... 55 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:08,520 ..according to the evidence. 56 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:21,000 Day six of the manslaughter trial continues. 57 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,520 In line with the original trial, 58 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,120 the judge has asked the jury for an early verdict 59 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,360 before the defence starts their case. 60 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,160 I know for a fact I'm not convinced. 61 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:32,160 - Yeah. - For a fact. 62 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,040 - I'm a not guilty, already. - Mm. 63 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,320 She's not asking us to say whether he's guilty or not. 64 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,200 She's asking you to say is he NOT guilty. 65 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,280 Correct. That's the only decision we can come up with, 66 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,320 whether he's not guilty right now. Yeah. 67 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,440 If the prosecution has failed to convince the jury 68 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,680 of Shaun Yang's guilt beyond reasonable doubt, 69 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,200 the trial ends today. 70 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,320 - All 12 of us have to say... - "Stop it right now." 71 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,240 - ..he's not guilty. - "Not guilty." 72 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,360 It can only be a not guilty verdict to stop it right now. 73 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,040 Yeah. All not guilty. 74 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,160 But the trouble is, I'm... 75 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:05,040 Can we not at the same time be not convinced by him, 76 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,920 but also not convinced of his innocence? 77 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,280 - Yeah. - Mmm. 78 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,680 I think this is a really difficult ask for the jury. 79 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,600 They want to hear the full story 80 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,120 before they have to make any decisions, 81 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,160 and they're being asked to make a preliminary decision. 82 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,520 I think they're really confused about what their role is here. 83 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:24,920 I think if everyone has reasonable doubt, 84 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,200 - no-one is convinced... - One way or the other. 85 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,320 And therefore, if you're not past reasonable doubt, 86 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,280 - then you're not guilty. - Yeah, then it's...not guilty. 87 00:04:32,280 --> 00:04:37,280 Are we...are we absolutely saying he is not guilty, finish the trial? 88 00:04:37,280 --> 00:04:39,920 All 12 of us say yes, OK, trial's finished. 89 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,520 If it's not guilty, done and dusted for the day. 90 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:43,760 - That's right. - Trial's over. 91 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:44,800 Yeah. 92 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,560 I think he's guilty of manslaughter. 93 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,040 Like, he's admitted it himself. "We had a fight." 94 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,520 To me, it's pretty clear-cut. 95 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,520 At the end of the day, there's a dead body. 96 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,640 Well, yeah. At the end of the day, someone's lost their life. 97 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,480 - Exactly. - That's what... 98 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:04,960 - There was only two in the room. - Yeah. 99 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,200 We need to be focusing on the fact someone's dead. 100 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,000 You know, lights out. They're not coming back. 101 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,880 Exactly. 102 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,320 No-one gets to see inside a jury deliberation room. 103 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:18,560 This is rare insight to seeing how juries actually make decisions. 104 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,360 I'm not saying absolutely that he's not guilty, 105 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,640 but I'm not convinced he's guilty yet. 106 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,080 - So you want to hear more evidence? - I agree. 107 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,080 I am not... I want to hear a lot more. 108 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:29,520 Who would like to hear more? 109 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:30,680 Sure. 110 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,800 This one doesn't have to be anonymous, right? 111 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:34,960 - No, it doesn't have to. - It doesn't? 112 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,360 - It has to be... - We've all got our hands up, so... 113 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,680 - Well, mine are not. - So...so we don't want to? 114 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,040 - Oh. - Oh, OK. That's fine. 115 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,000 Honestly, if it would be up to me, that's where it would end. 116 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,160 So, it's 9/3 at the moment. 117 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:48,840 We're asking ourselves the wrong question. 118 00:05:48,840 --> 00:05:51,440 It's not a question of do we want to hear more evidence? 119 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:52,520 It's not that. 120 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,800 It's...it's can we unanimously agree at this point, 121 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,480 based on everything that we've heard, that he's not guilty? 122 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,960 I mean, I don't think an hour's worth of discussion 123 00:05:59,960 --> 00:06:02,640 is going to change the point of view of nine people. 124 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,480 Personally, I don't know how anyone 125 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,280 can be completely convinced right now. 126 00:06:06,280 --> 00:06:08,880 You know, I hope that's not a precursor 127 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,960 of...of it being a...a tricky thing. 128 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,720 It was interesting that the room wanted to continue hearing more, 129 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,040 when it felt like we didn't believe beyond reasonable doubt 130 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,320 that he had committed this crime. 131 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,920 But I can understand it because it allows you to continue hearing more, 132 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:26,800 which delays your decision-making, 133 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,040 which is the hardest part out of all of this. 134 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,920 As jury foreperson, 135 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,720 it's Guy's job to deliver the midpoint verdict to the judge. 136 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,200 Mr Foreperson, please stand. 137 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,360 What is the decision of the jury? 138 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,760 We'd like to continue, to get more evidence. 139 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,960 Thank you, Mr Foreperson. 140 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,640 You may be seated. 141 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,920 This trial will proceed. 142 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:03,080 With the decision to continue, the focus shifts to the defence case. 143 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:07,960 Their strongest weapon - to see doubt in the jurors' minds. 144 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,640 Mr Benedetti, are you ready for your first witness? 145 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:15,720 Yes, Your Honour. 146 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,800 Defence calls Victor Mineau. 147 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:29,400 The defence begins by calling into question the safety of the staircase. 148 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,760 You are a builder by occupation. 149 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,320 Yes, I am. 150 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,440 And did you carry out a staircase inspection 151 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,520 on behalf of the company that you work for? 152 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,200 Yes, I did. 153 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,680 Did this staircase comply with building codes of New South Wales 154 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,800 associated with staircases? 155 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,160 No, it didn't. 156 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,920 Did you have difficulty going down these stairs? 157 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,960 I had to be mindful to not overstep and miss the tread. 158 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:56,360 Yes. 159 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:00,520 Why do we have building codes about staircases? 160 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,920 Because people fall down them when they're unapproved, correct? 161 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:05,200 Yes. 162 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:07,320 Thank you. That will be all. 163 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:08,720 I have no further questions, Your Honour. 164 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,720 I take it even though you've building work done internally, 165 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,640 the council doesn't come along and say, 166 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,400 "Pull down those stairs and build some more compliant ones"? 167 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,480 Not that I'm aware of, no. 168 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,680 One goes up and down as one has to, given the stairs that are there? 169 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,240 Yes. 170 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,200 No further questions. 171 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:42,240 I am convinced that it's just that easy to have a split-second slip. 172 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,040 You don't grab the banister correctly, 173 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,880 or if there's a bit of water on your hands... 174 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,400 Anything could have happened. Anything could have happened. 175 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,640 Is it possible that he fell down the stairs? Yes. 176 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,520 Someone falling down the stairs and having visibly no injuries 177 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:02,880 we know is possible. 178 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,760 But is that reasonable doubt? 179 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,360 Mr Benedetti, are you ready for your next witness? 180 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,680 Defence calls Hayden Jagger. 181 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,920 With Carlo's cause of death still unclear, 182 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,040 the defence calls their own forensic expert. 183 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:26,160 Professor. Full name is Hayden Grierson Jagger? 184 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:27,400 Yes. 185 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,680 You are a forensic pathologist by occupation? 186 00:09:29,680 --> 00:09:30,840 Yes. 187 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,040 So, far as your practical experience is concerned, 188 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,400 I think you've taken part in many thousands of post-mortems. 189 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:41,440 Oh, I have conducted personally... oh, about 15,000. Yes. 190 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,440 - If we could just go then immediately to this case. - Mm. 191 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,080 On the material that you have been given, 192 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,920 what caused the death of Mr Levetto? 193 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:57,280 Well, to me, Dr Palazar, who performed the autopsy, 194 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:02,240 couldn't, in my opinion, distinguish between which of those injuries 195 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,360 was more likely to have caused the actual death. 196 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,560 We know that there were no skull fractures, 197 00:10:11,560 --> 00:10:14,280 but could the injury to the brain have been caused 198 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,400 by the head impacting on a hard object, 199 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,880 like a wall or a floor or object of that type? 200 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:20,320 Yes. 201 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:23,880 In terms of the staircase itself, 202 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,400 if the head impacted with the solid timber structures of the staircase, 203 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,880 could that cause the injuries to the head? 204 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:31,000 Yes. 205 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,160 There was bloodstaining on the handrail going up the stairs. 206 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:39,480 Could the injury to the chin 207 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,760 be occasioned by hitting that wooden handrail? 208 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,800 Yes. There's nothing specific about this chin injury. 209 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,560 Did you see any stigmata of strangulation? 210 00:10:49,560 --> 00:10:52,320 Well, there was some bruising on the neck, 211 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,400 but excluding that or putting that to one side, if you like, 212 00:10:55,400 --> 00:11:01,640 the things one usually sees in cases of manual or ligature strangulation 213 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,280 were just not present. 214 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,600 Professor, as a result, do you think that the cause of death 215 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,600 was strangulation or attempted strangulation? 216 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,120 I think the cause of death here is obscure. 217 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,120 Thank you. 218 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,040 That will be all. 219 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,000 The cause of death for Carlos is complex. 220 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,760 I mean, if medical professionals 221 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,400 and people that are meant to be experts 222 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,440 can't even agree on something, it's like, well, how do you expect 223 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,960 an everyday person coming in on a jury to know? 224 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,600 It's really complex. 225 00:11:40,560 --> 00:11:44,360 The prosecution now cross-examines the defence witness. 226 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:51,280 Professor, would you say that it's highly unlikely 227 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,520 that those marks or bruises were caused by a fall, 228 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,640 given the number and the complexity of them? 229 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,000 I... 230 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,280 I would not support a simple fall 231 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,400 as causing this entire complex of bruising. 232 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,440 But usually with these sorts of injuries - 233 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:13,720 and I think you've alluded to this - 234 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,720 a person doesn't die immediately, do they? 235 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:22,480 Well, most people who fall on the back of their head don't die at all, 236 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,480 but if they ARE going to die, 237 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,160 there'll often be substantial bleeding 238 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,840 between the inner membrane lining of the skull 239 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,680 and the outer membrane covering the brain, 240 00:12:33,680 --> 00:12:36,080 and Mr Levetto didn't have that. 241 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,760 Would you agree that the injury to the back of the head or the brain 242 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,440 is more significant than the injury to the chin? 243 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,520 Well, there are two bruises to the skull at the back. 244 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,920 Because they are there, they must be considered significant. 245 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,360 What caused them? 246 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,240 Obviously the head impacted on something twice 247 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,240 or something impacted on the head twice. 248 00:13:03,680 --> 00:13:06,640 If we could please share exhibit C with the witness. 249 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,600 And would you agree, would you not, 250 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,760 that if one holds the bowl near the spout 251 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,280 and uses the rest of it to strike someone, such as the deceased, 252 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,280 that would be consistent with an injury to his chin, 253 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:20,560 would it not? 254 00:13:20,560 --> 00:13:22,920 It could be, yes. 255 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,760 Whether on impact that would produce 256 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:29,560 that somewhat complex laceration to the chin or not, 257 00:13:29,560 --> 00:13:31,840 I would say it's possible. 258 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,440 Alright, so you've been forwarded some photographs overnight 259 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:35,800 by the Crown, have you not? 260 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,280 Uh, yes. Thank you. 261 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:38,600 If you can go to 38. 262 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,600 Yes, I've got 38. 263 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,600 The bloodstaining is behind his head 264 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,800 and not up very far away from the rug. 265 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:46,880 Do you agree with that? 266 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,200 I agree it doesn't go very far. 267 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,360 And, Doctor, if indeed the deceased 268 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,720 was struck in an area that was already bleeding, 269 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,800 with an object such as this juicer bowl, 270 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,560 you would expect the blood to go behind him 271 00:13:59,560 --> 00:14:01,640 as we see here, wouldn't you? 272 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,880 You're asking me, are you likely to get a spray of blood 273 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:06,880 from the impact? 274 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,760 - Yes. - And the answer is yes. 275 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,040 There appears to be some very dark bruising 276 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,640 over the area of the voice box, does there not? 277 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,840 Yes, and to the right of the voice box as well. 278 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,840 If we can now go to the chest area - photograph 5. 279 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,200 In relation to the injuries to that area, 280 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,960 given the severity of the bruising that you see, 281 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,360 would the marks on the chest be suggestive of a struggle? 282 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:31,760 Yes. 283 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,600 Between the protagonists? 284 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:34,720 Yes. 285 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,080 Given that the bruising on the neck 286 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,800 shows reasonably heavy bruising on the area around the voice box 287 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,520 and some bruising on the left side of the neck, 288 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,960 could the application of pressure there 289 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,600 have caused the heart to slow and then stop? 290 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:56,240 Yes. 291 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,280 Thank you. I have no further questions. 292 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,200 It was surprising that the defence had presented some witnesses 293 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:10,440 that were agreeing with what the prosecution had been stating. 294 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,960 After I heard the prosecution speak, 295 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,360 I thought, "Oh, my God, he's actually guilty." 296 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:16,600 Didn't...didn't expect that. 297 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,040 So I'm shocked about that. 298 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:22,280 But the defence barrister is not done yet. 299 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:34,400 After the prosecution's cross-examination of the pathologist, 300 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,480 some jurors now believe Shaun could be guilty. 301 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:44,440 The defence has one last chance to convince the jury 302 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,440 that Carlo may have died from other causes. 303 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,160 Professor, in terms of Dr Palazar - 304 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,240 I think you trained Dr Palazar, didn't you, many years ago? 305 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,640 I had some part in his training. Yes. 306 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,320 And in some occupations there are clear, singular answers. 307 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,600 Two and two must equal four. 308 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:05,320 In forensic medicine, of which you are a specialist, 309 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,880 it doesn't always work out that way, does it? 310 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,200 Uh, yes. I agree. Mm. 311 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,320 With all of your experience, 312 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:19,120 you're unable to assist us any further as to the cause of death? 313 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,840 Well, I don't want to muddy the waters. 314 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,040 Um...but I'm about to. 315 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,080 Now, Dr Palazar reported 316 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,040 that this chap had left ventricular hypertrophy, 317 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:34,960 which is an increase in the muscle in the lower left chamber of the heart. 318 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,040 Going back through his medical records, 319 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,240 I noted that he'd gone to see his doctor 320 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,800 because he was worried his heart was racing. 321 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:51,520 He had an ECG, which showed a number of disordered extra contractions 322 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,000 affecting his heart. 323 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:57,760 Now, that means that the orderly electrical transmissions to his heart 324 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,960 was effectively misfiring, 325 00:16:59,960 --> 00:17:04,000 and that was one of the reasons why his medication was increased. 326 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,280 Now, it is speculative, but one must wonder 327 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:15,000 if he had a period of cardiac dysrhythmia quite spontaneously, 328 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:20,240 he may have had a version of that in association with his ultimate death. 329 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:38,040 And that worries me because there is, as I've already said, 330 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:42,040 absolutely no clear-cut cause of death in this case. 331 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,040 And you think he may have had a heart attack? 332 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,480 He may have died because of a cardiac event. Yes. 333 00:17:55,480 --> 00:18:01,120 It may have been compounded or caused by a stressful situation. 334 00:18:01,120 --> 00:18:03,320 There's no way of telling. 335 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,120 Thank you. That will be all. 336 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,520 Anything further, Mr Crown? 337 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,280 Yes, Your Honour. 338 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:19,680 Professor, in relation to this most recent statement by you, 339 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,400 you didn't consider that to be significant enough 340 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,320 to include in your initial report? 341 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,680 It wasn't that I didn't consider it significant enough. 342 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,080 I was rereading his medical notes last night, 343 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,480 and this began to worry me. 344 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:35,680 But in terms of there being a heart attack, as my friend has said, 345 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,800 was there any evidence at post-mortem to indicate 346 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,080 that he had a heart attack? 347 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:46,640 Um, except for the fact that he had increased muscle mass, no. 348 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,480 And that in itself is not evidence of him having a heart attack. 349 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,200 It is evidence, though, 350 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:56,240 of the soil, if you like, being ready for a heart attack. 351 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:00,840 But nothing was observed by Dr Palazar that would support that? 352 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,080 Nothing at all. 353 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:04,080 Thank you. 354 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,760 Thank you for attending today, Professor. 355 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,920 You may now leave the court. 356 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,120 Thank you. 357 00:19:14,120 --> 00:19:15,560 Thank you, Professor Jagger. 358 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,120 Mr Benedetti, am I to understand that Professor Jagger 359 00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:21,560 was your final witness? 360 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,120 Yes, Your Honour. 361 00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:26,680 Dr Jagger was the final witness for the defence. 362 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,640 With the defence case complete, 363 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,760 all of the trial evidence has now been heard. 364 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:39,160 This is all the jury will have to decide the fate of Shaun Yang. 365 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,920 How's everyone feeling? What are we leaning towards specifically? 366 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,240 I'm reserving judgement at this point. 367 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,600 I'm hoping that what the judge is going to give us 368 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,480 is going to help us make our decision. 369 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:52,840 We're not going to hear any evidence? 370 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,360 - I think that's it. - No more. There is no more anything. 371 00:19:56,360 --> 00:19:57,400 Guilty or not guilty? 372 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,040 Do you think it's too early to even say? 373 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,520 I mean, I'm sure there's people... 374 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,840 I'm sure all of us have one... one way or another. 375 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,840 - Like, I think we're all... - I do. Not guilty. 376 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,200 Because so much is inconclusive 377 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,800 and you can say, "Yeah, that could've happened, 378 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,040 "that could have happened," and so it's all very speculative. 379 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,080 And they think he contributed because they had an argument, 380 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:21,160 so it's inevitable that... that whole scenario led to what... 381 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,640 He was involved, it just doesn't... I think that's... 382 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,280 Is there anyone here, like, in the room 383 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,360 that is, like, "Yep, 100% guilty"? 384 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,400 - Not 100%. - Is anyone...is anyone... 385 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,520 ..well, leaning more towards guilty, then, let's go? 386 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:33,520 Anyone? 387 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,920 I found it... Yeah, I thought it was... 388 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,760 I think he's played a big part in what has happened. 389 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,520 I'm starting to believe that. 390 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:44,000 And I...just the facts of the... the blows and the repeated blows 391 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,840 - and the location of the blows... - Mm. 392 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:51,400 ..seems like the information is...is against Shaun. 393 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,040 So, here's my question. 394 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,560 So, the prosecutor's going on about the blood splatter 395 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,320 and whether, you know, if he was hit again, 396 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,320 but there's no blood found on the jug. 397 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:05,840 He keeps saying "what appears to be blood", which drives me crazy. 398 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,160 We're talking about the bowl or the jug? 399 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:09,480 - When you say jug, you mean...? - The bowl? 400 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:10,800 - The juicer. - The bowl. 401 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,480 The evidence clearly says there was no human blood on the jug. 402 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:14,840 I thought it was inconclusive. 403 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,000 But the evidence clearly says there's DNA, Guy. 404 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:22,040 Are you dismissing Carlo's DNA on the spout? 405 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:23,720 - No. - Right. 406 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,040 To me, that's enough. 407 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,840 No, but he...he could not say where the blood splatter came from. 408 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,920 A court case isn't about finding the truth. 409 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,440 Jurors think that they're detectives of truth. 410 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,160 That's not their job at all. 411 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,880 Their job is to consider the facts 412 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,120 that are provided to them in the courtroom, 413 00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:45,840 and decide whether those facts are enough 414 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:50,720 to satisfy the charge the accused is against. 415 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,320 Because I can't see how you'd hit him in the area where there's blood 416 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,560 and not have any blood on the...on the weapon. 417 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,000 Yeah, but what if you got hit there and the blood came out that way? 418 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,040 That evidence has not been... 419 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,440 No-one has said that. 420 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,520 What about that red incision of the photograph, 421 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:05,800 at the back of Carlo's head? 422 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,360 When people are playing the detective, 423 00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:09,360 that can sway your mind a bit, 424 00:22:09,360 --> 00:22:11,080 and I think you might... 425 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,480 There's a risk you'll come back to that theory. 426 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,920 - Yeah, whoa, whoa. - But you're talking about this... 427 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,080 Hold on. Guys, guys. 428 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:21,240 My question is, how could he hit the blood 429 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,200 and not have blood on the weapon? 430 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,600 The jury room is definitely harder than the courtroom. 431 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,080 The courtroom is interesting. 432 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,920 The jury room is not. 433 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,160 Unfortunately. 434 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,840 If we're told that we have to believe the test 435 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,760 where there's no human blood found on that jug, 436 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,560 how can he keep suggesting 437 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:46,480 that Shaun kept hitting Carlo in the area where the blood is? 438 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,760 - From a...from a test standpoint? - I've got to be... 439 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,360 You've got to believe the test, haven't you? 440 00:22:52,360 --> 00:22:55,400 - No, nothing is... - The test was absolutely definite. 441 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,680 - There's no human blood. - Yeah. I agree. 442 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,200 We really need to come together as a group 443 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:06,000 and really... ..just get to the bottom of everything. 444 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,240 There's been a lot of talk and a lot of stories 445 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,840 and misleading information just to try and get us away from some... 446 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,640 We just need to...um... 447 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,960 ..yeah, kind of block the noise out and just get down to the facts. 448 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,320 Let me show you visually. You could get hit... 449 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,480 OK. The first blow there, 450 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,040 second blow here. 451 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,640 There's no blood here. There's only blood here. 452 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,640 You can get hit here and you could turn your head 453 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,280 - and the spillage of blood could... - Yes, it could. 454 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:31,560 Yeah. So that's what... 455 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,040 I found it really frustrating that people speculated 456 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,720 a little too much that then people would get confused 457 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,480 about what HAD actually happened. 458 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,480 But there's experts here saying it's highly irregular. 459 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,360 That's his opinion. This is my opinion. 460 00:23:44,360 --> 00:23:46,560 - It's everyone's opinion. - Yeah. 461 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,960 So I think that can be dangerous to fill in the blanks. 462 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,800 That's what I reckon that's what happened. 463 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,000 It's...everyone's different versions. 464 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,960 But I'd go with the pathologist, who's a scientist. 465 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:01,280 What is it exactly he does for a living? Write songs for children? 466 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,320 Hello. 467 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,680 Today's session has wrapped up. Thank you very much. 468 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,760 It's been a very, very big day for you all. 469 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,920 I think as a jury we could get it wrong, which is worrying. 470 00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:28,840 I've never had the responsibility of making a decision like this. 471 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,960 It's black and white. It's a yes or a no. 472 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,040 You're either guilty or you're not. 473 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,040 So, given there are only two options, 474 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,320 I think it's quite easy to get it wrong. 475 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,200 After a week of jury duty, 476 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:56,080 friendships have formed, opinions have changed, 477 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,160 and jurors continue to reveal their differences. 478 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,320 I was brought up Catholic 479 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,600 and about 15 years ago I converted over to Muslim. 480 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:11,080 I still obey by most of the Muslim laws, but not all of them. 481 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,040 For instance, now I should be doing Ramadan, 482 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:18,040 but I'm not, so...probably get in trouble for that one. 483 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,320 I was in a Catholic school all my life, 484 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,040 and the nuns always thought I was going to be a nun. 485 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,480 I said, "I've decided I'm going to rewrite the Bible 486 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,560 "when I get out of school." 487 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,160 She wasn't too happy about that. 488 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,880 When I was a teenager, that was a time when Soviet Union 489 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,840 was crumbling and collapsing and everything around it. 490 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:47,200 I came to Australia in 1993 and I came by myself. 491 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,600 Definitely consider myself Aussie. Yeah. 492 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,240 Don't be fooled by this accent. 493 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:53,840 True blue Aussie. 494 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,240 You need that diversity of opinion. 495 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,040 You want those different experiences, different backgrounds. 496 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,080 It's what a jury is. 497 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,960 We're here to do the right thing. 498 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,520 The trial has entered its final phase. 499 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,200 The barristers get one more chance to address the jury 500 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,000 with their persuasive closing arguments. 501 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,280 Is everyone ready for the jury? 502 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,120 - Yes, Your Honour. - Yes, Your Honour. 503 00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:26,800 Please bring in the jury. 504 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,720 In my head, I'm leaning towards not guilty. 505 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,280 But perhaps there's something that maybe I'm thinking, 506 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,120 "Well, that was intentional." 507 00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:45,120 I don't know. We'll see how it goes. 508 00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:47,080 I'm... "Aah!" 509 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,840 It's the job of a good prosecutor to provide a roadmap 510 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:57,160 through all the evidence that was provided throughout the trial. 511 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,560 It has to be done in great detail and in an order 512 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:06,680 that is comprehensible and logical for the jury to understand 513 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,440 if they're going to prove their case beyond reasonable doubt. 514 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:19,960 Members of the jury. 515 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,120 The Crown says that in relation to the evidence that you've heard 516 00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:31,680 that it is sufficient to establish the charge of manslaughter. 517 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:36,000 Now, in this case, members of the jury, the Crown relies on 518 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,760 what is called circumstantial evidence. 519 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:45,520 Circumstantial evidence is evidence of a basic fact 520 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:50,400 from which you are asked to draw a conclusion as to further facts. 521 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:55,680 There are a number of circumstances in this case that are relevant, 522 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:56,960 and they are... 523 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,920 One, the accused and the deceased lived together. 524 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,840 Two, the deceased told Mr Gentile 525 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,560 that the relationship was deteriorating. 526 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:11,960 Three, Carlo relayed further concerns regarding his relationship. 527 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:16,360 Four, there was evidence of an argument on 11 March, 2022. 528 00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:18,840 Mr Clifford Reid refers to that. 529 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,240 Five, crashing noises were heard by Miss Cooper 530 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,880 on 12 March at about 8:15am. 531 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:29,320 Six, she heard the accused screaming and crying shortly thereafter. 532 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:35,120 Seven, at 9:12am, a 000 call was made. 533 00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:37,240 Eight, ambulance officer Alistair Lewis 534 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,120 said that the accused was sitting at the bottom of the stairs 535 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,080 with the deceased's head in his lap, 536 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,720 and he observed the juicer. 537 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,440 Nine, the accused's conversation with Senior Constable Reynolds, 538 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,160 which included, "We had a fight." 539 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,240 10, the accused's conversation with Mr Reid, "We had an argument." 540 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,400 11, the accused's conversation with the Detective Sergeant Adams, 541 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,760 "I don't remember. Carlo argued with me. 542 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,720 "He criticised me a lot." 543 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,520 12, damage to the beam in the kitchen, 544 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,280 the render below it and carrot pulp around the chipped render. 545 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,720 13, bloodstaining on the walls and behind the deceased's head. 546 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,880 14, the Chinese burn. 547 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,400 15, the evidence of Dr Palazar regarding the head and neck, 548 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,680 the injuries not occasioned by a fall 549 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,720 and no evidence of heart attack. 550 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,880 16, the deceased's DNA was on the spout of the juicer 551 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,160 and in the dent. 552 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,160 17, evidence of blunt force injury to the brain, 553 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,000 consistent with a fall to the back of the head. 554 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,440 Having listed the key facts of the case, 555 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:46,480 the prosecutor now pulls everything together to explain Carlo's death. 556 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,640 The Crown says that what happened here is that the relationship 557 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,320 between the deceased and the accused was deteriorating. 558 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,280 It appears that the accused has lost his temper with Carlo, 559 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,760 that he had a fight with him - 560 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,000 because they probably had a lot of fights - 561 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,600 but this fight escalated from verbal altercation 562 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:24,600 to a physical altercation, and Shaun Yang just hasn't stopped. 563 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:35,760 You know for a fact that what Felicity Cooper heard from next door 564 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,600 was this juicer bowl being thrown against the beam in the kitchen 565 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,520 with some considerable force 566 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,000 and landed on the floor in the kitchen. 567 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,560 But the juicer was found next to the body of the deceased 568 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,680 at the bottom of the stairs, not the kitchen. 569 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,360 The Crown says that's indicative of the juicer bowl being picked up... 570 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:06,280 ..and having been used by the accused to strike Carlo Levetto, 571 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,560 causing the injury to his chin. 572 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,720 Then there's the injuries to the chest, 573 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,480 and the considerable bruising were caused by Shaun Yang 574 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,520 beating or striking Carlo around the chest area. 575 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,680 There is considerable bruising in the area of the voice box. 576 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,600 You might ask yourselves, members of the jury, 577 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,520 using your combined common sense and experience, 578 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,160 how would those injuries occur falling down the stairs? 579 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,720 Now, something, SOMETHING has applied considerable force 580 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,640 to cause this bruising, 581 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,200 and the Crown says this is Shaun Yang. 582 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,320 The Crown says he made these marks with his hands. 583 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,120 As this assault continued - 584 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,680 that is the striking to the chin, the falling over, 585 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,080 the damage to the back of the head, 586 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,040 the striking to the chest, 587 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,400 the strangulation - 588 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:25,320 there would have been, to any reasonable person, a realisation 589 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,640 that it was dangerous and posed a risk of serious injury. 590 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,520 The question of the heart. 591 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,480 Now, if indeed it was the application of force 592 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,840 and the head injury and the chest injury, the injury to the chin, 593 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,800 and finally as a result there was a failure to the heart, 594 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,360 that is still manslaughter. 595 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,400 Members of the jury, if all these other injuries 596 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,880 place enough stress on the body for the heart to give out 597 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,760 and they are caused by the accused, 598 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,040 then that is sufficient for manslaughter. 599 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:06,320 So, members of the jury, the Crown says 600 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,840 that it has established its case beyond reasonable doubt, 601 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,240 and that you will find the accused guilty of manslaughter. 602 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:18,800 Thank you. 603 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,080 Thank you, Mr Crown. 604 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,800 I think this is the right time to take a break 605 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,400 and we will resume with the defence closing remarks. 606 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,000 Thank you. 607 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,600 I don't think it's ever been that quiet. 608 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,120 - I'm enjoying it. - We're all pondering. 609 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,760 Somebody fart, quick. 610 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:16,760 Yeah. 611 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,520 I'm enjoying the silence. 612 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,800 I'm doing...I'm doing mental gymnastics in my brain. 613 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:24,840 Yeah, absolutely. 614 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,400 It's the most convinced I've ever been by the Crown. 615 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,440 - He was certainly the most... - You know? I definitely bought that. 616 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:31,440 - Mm. - Um... 617 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,040 Definitively? 618 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,280 No, I...I'm not saying... But I've been leaning... 619 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,720 I'm now leaning toward... Like, it's shocking for me to even say that. 620 00:34:38,720 --> 00:34:41,880 - But... You know. - I'm the same. 621 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,960 It's starting to sway that way now. 622 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,240 I mean, that story had very few holes in it. 623 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,360 I think everything that the Crown said made sense. 624 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,240 He didn't try and hide anything. He wasn't challenging anything. 625 00:34:55,240 --> 00:34:58,280 But he basically put forward the charge of manslaughter. 626 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,400 And that's...that's all plausible, what the prosecutor said. 627 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,680 But beyond reasonable doubt? Not...not for me. 628 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,280 The prosecution put that evidence in a narration. 629 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,400 There's nothing definite in that. 630 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:18,120 I don't think there's...there's any proof of...like, undoubted proof 631 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,000 that...that he's guilty. 632 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,880 And what was the strangulation? 633 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,280 I mean, I've just realised that what they're saying is 634 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,440 he was so angry that then he grabbed him around the throat 635 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,240 just to finish him off, but...he obviously didn't. 636 00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:32,280 - Finish him off? - Well... 637 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:33,800 - Well, you don't know. - Yeah, that... 638 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,280 They had experts say 639 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,160 it's not consistent with falling down the stairs. 640 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,200 And he...the prosecutor summarised that. 641 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,120 He repeated that. 642 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,600 Yeah. It's not consistent. 643 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,080 Now do you...do you get it? 644 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,080 - Yeah. - The extent of his injuries. 645 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,040 - Yeah. - That's how he died. 646 00:35:56,040 --> 00:36:00,280 So hypothetically, if they did have a fight, the Crown said, 647 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,320 "If these injuries are enough for the heart to give out, 648 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,680 - "then that is manslaughter." - That is still manslaughter. Yeah. 649 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,560 - And that's where... - He just had to contribute. 650 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,480 He just had to contribute, right? 651 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,000 All he had to do is hit him once, 652 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,560 and that's...it's contributed to trauma that led to his death. 653 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,440 - Even if it was self-defence? - Technically it's manslaughter. 654 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,680 - Yeah. - What do you think? 655 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,560 - What would I think? - Yes. 656 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,960 There are people that have made up their minds. 657 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,560 They already made up their minds? 658 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,920 I think there are a few people that have made up their minds. Guilty. 659 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,440 Oh, God. 660 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:40,840 That's what the evidence is showing us. 661 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:41,840 Yeah. 662 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,720 If he contributed to the trauma, that it led to his death. 663 00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:45,160 If he... Even a little bit. 664 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:46,680 Even if he contributed a little bit... 665 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,520 - Could have been anything. - ..it's still manslaughter. 666 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,760 The Crown provided a series of events, 667 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,280 and that was very compelling. 668 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,720 And I thought, "Wow, that's it. 669 00:36:55,720 --> 00:36:58,600 "That's the case, and that's what happened." 670 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,880 I think it's the morning, they had a kerfuffle. 671 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,160 - There was irritation... - I think there was a bit of tension. 672 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,680 There was a bit of tension. 673 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,600 - It's a boiling point. - And it was just deteriorating. 674 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:08,920 It's a boiling point. 675 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,080 Every single person is capable of being that angry 676 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,720 that they can't control themselves, definitely. 677 00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:16,280 Every single person. 678 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,680 Anybody here been in a fit of rage? 679 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,240 Uncontrollable? 680 00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:21,400 Yep. 681 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,720 - You just can't control, yeah? - Absolutely. 682 00:37:23,720 --> 00:37:24,920 Have you seen red before? 683 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,680 When you get so angry, you see the colour red? 684 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,040 - Haze. - Oh, plenty of times. 685 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,760 The extreme anger. 686 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,480 A couple of times that's happened to me and I've had to, yeah, 687 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,800 really stop myself before I went one step too far. 688 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,920 Testosterones were going through and I was shaking 689 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,600 and just felt like I lost control of myself, mm. 690 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,640 And your body, like, the adrenaline takes over... 691 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,400 - The adrenaline, yeah. - ..and you feel more powerful. 692 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,600 And you shake and everything when you're finished. 693 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,280 - Have you been in a physical... - Uncontrollable. 694 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:53,480 Yes, yes. 695 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,680 Good people can do bad things, for sure. 696 00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:01,440 If we agree that there's a fight, though, 697 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,200 and that that led to manslaughter, 698 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,520 how do we know the fight wasn't self-defence? 699 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,440 That's not for us to decide. 700 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,760 We're here to decide if the actions that he took 701 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,560 led to Carlos dying. 702 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:16,920 - Mm. - Yes, they did. 703 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,160 Craig was very adamant that he was guilty. 704 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,880 I won't change my mind. I was like, "I will die on this hill." 705 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,520 Mr Benedetti... 706 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,480 ..I invite you to present the closing remarks for the defence. 707 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,160 Thank you, Your Honour. 708 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,280 Shaun Yang's barrister will now work 709 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,320 to undo the gains made by the prosecution. 710 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,560 Defence closing argument is there to poke holes 711 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:07,240 into the prosecution's case, to find gaps, to find that reasonable doubt. 712 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,200 As I mentioned to you when the trial commenced, 713 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:16,600 you - and that's all of you - must obey... 714 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,760 An old-fashioned word, I accept. 715 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:24,640 Nonetheless, you must obey Her Honour's directions of law to you. 716 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,520 You must accept her directions of law to you as being the law. 717 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:35,320 You can't allow sympathy or prejudice 718 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,320 to play a part in your deliberations. 719 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,360 You know Mr Yang is homosexual. 720 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,320 The case is not about whatever views 721 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,200 you may or may not have about human behaviour. 722 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,320 That's got nothing to do with the case. 723 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,640 You can't speculate. 724 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,800 That's what you're not permitted to do. 725 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,400 Now, this is a circumstantial case. 726 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:07,000 There's so many gaps in this case that are cause for concern. 727 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,680 There are so many gaps in the evidence that we say 728 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,640 the prosecution has failed to prove to you that Mr Yang is guilty 729 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,120 of manslaughter beyond reasonable doubt. 730 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,880 I want to take you through the many holes in the prosecution's case. 731 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,160 The Crown told you that Miss Cooper would have heard 732 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,200 the juicer hitting the wall. 733 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,840 There's no evidence of that. 734 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,960 She doesn't say that at all. 735 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,560 That's just speculation. 736 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,240 And where's the evidence that the juicer struck the wall 737 00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:42,560 with great force? 738 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:45,920 There isn't any. 739 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:50,120 The force of the juicer being thrown is just speculation. 740 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,080 Mr Gentile gives evidence, you will remember, 741 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,520 about how Mr Levetto said he was considering 742 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:57,920 leaving the relationship. 743 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,120 He was concerned about Shaun's behaviour. 744 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,360 Well, members of the jury, that stands in direct contrast 745 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,760 to the observations of Mr Reid. 746 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,400 Mr Reid used to live with the accused. 747 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:14,120 He knew him very well, and he was, as it were, voluble and expressive, 748 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,920 but never physical in arguments. 749 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,840 He also said they were going away with the deceased and the accused 750 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,520 on a holiday, a holiday to China together. 751 00:41:25,240 --> 00:41:27,600 Dr Palazar is asked about the bruising to the chest, 752 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,400 and he agrees that if the fingers and hands are placed 753 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,560 high up on the chest and neck in resuscitation, 754 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,200 that could be an explanation for bruising. 755 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,160 There's a whole range of things are possibilities. 756 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,200 He says there are a lot of variables, 757 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,440 and he agrees that we just don't know enough. 758 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,560 He thinks it is a combination of injuries... 759 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,840 ..and that it was a result of blunt-force trauma. 760 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,200 A lot of people get confused about what blunt-force trauma is. 761 00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,840 Blunt-force trauma does not mean an intentional attack. It can. 762 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,840 You smash your head into this table, 763 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,520 that is blunt-force trauma. 764 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,360 Police had to physically restrain the accused 765 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,200 to make sure he didn't interfere with the crime scene. 766 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,440 If he got a couple of bruises on his wrist, 767 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:17,880 then that's the way it goes. 768 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,240 If you don't want to be handcuffed and you are resisting 769 00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:23,320 and flapping your arms around, there's a lot more physical contact 770 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:24,800 and scope for injury. 771 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,000 Frida Martin gave evidence that the DNA as found on the juicer 772 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:35,440 is DNA of the deceased, but not one drop of blood. 773 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,840 Frida Martin could not establish any human blood on the juicer. 774 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,880 The blood must have some method of avoiding the object. 775 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,120 Some James Bond-style juicer that goes whack, whack! 776 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,200 Now, the Crown said in the opening of the case, and I quote, 777 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,040 "It may well be that the deceased has fallen over 778 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,520 "and hit the back of his head, because there is an abrasion there, 779 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,000 "and that could have caused brain damage. 780 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,280 "And then may well be that the accused has placed his hands 781 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:04,720 "around the neck of the deceased 782 00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:07,080 "and caused the injuries occasioned to the neck." 783 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,640 Members of the jury, be very, very careful 784 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,600 about equating phrases like "it may well be" 785 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,600 and "it could be" 786 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,360 to "beyond reasonable doubt". 787 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,880 "It may well be" 788 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,520 is not the criminal standard of "beyond reasonable doubt". 789 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:29,800 It is far less. 790 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,080 "Could be" can mean a lot of things. 791 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,560 It could be the case, or it may not be the case. 792 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,120 You know that there was, even according to the Crown case, 793 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:52,200 a loving relationship between these two men over a long period of time. 794 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:55,840 You've heard that there's no suggestion 795 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,000 of what could be described as a motive to kill. 796 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,440 So please...don't speculate. 797 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,320 This is not Hercule Poirot where a hidden motive 798 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,280 will suddenly emerge at the last moment. 799 00:44:11,720 --> 00:44:13,920 Suspicion is not enough. 800 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,960 Sympathy plays no part. 801 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,760 None. 802 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,640 The prosecution has failed to satisfy each element 803 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,640 of the offence of manslaughter beyond reasonable doubt. 804 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,800 This is because there is simply not enough direct evidence 805 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,680 for the prosecution to prove their case. 806 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,600 While it might be frustrating that we will never know what happened, 807 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:45,680 the jury cannot speculate and fill in the gaps of what likely happened. 808 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,280 If you are not satisfied with each element of manslaughter 809 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,440 beyond reasonable doubt... 810 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,640 ..then you must find Mr Yang not guilty. 811 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,480 Thank you. 812 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,360 Thank you, Mr Benedetti. 813 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,160 Members of the jury, you may retire now. 814 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:13,160 Thank you. 815 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,800 When the jurors return in the morning, 816 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,760 they'll start their formal deliberation. 817 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:25,400 The trial and Shaun's fate is theirs to decide. 818 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,120 Both arguments are compelling, 819 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:34,520 and at the moment I'm indecisive in terms of where I sit 820 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,800 because both of those presentations are correct, 821 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,400 but they delivered two different conclusions. 822 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,160 The prosecutor was very convincing, but he made up a story 823 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,120 like we all made up stories in the first couple of days. 824 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,840 There's a lot of "could have, might have" 825 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,960 where the defence barrister actually went after that and said, 826 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,120 "Well, there's a lot of doubt." 827 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,840 And that's the key word here, is there a lot of doubt? 828 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,120 I think the defence barrister influenced me 829 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:08,480 more than the prosecutor. 830 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,680 Tomorrow, I don't think anyone's going to have anything 831 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,200 to hide behind. 832 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,280 They're going to have to really put themselves out there and 833 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,600 say what they think and why they think that. 834 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:27,840 Next time... 835 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,760 So, first of all, your position, do you think guilty or not guilty? 836 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,600 I can't even answer it. 837 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:38,560 ..the pressure is on as the jury must reach a unanimous verdict. 838 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,760 Yeah, I agree, there's a number of possibilities 839 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,360 that could have happened that day, a number. 840 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,000 But can they shift each other's thinking? 841 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,680 The DNA on the juicer?! 842 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,280 Guys, guys, guys, it's five against one. 843 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,400 That was like a pack of wolves trying to get him to conform. 844 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,080 None of these injuries are severe enough. 845 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,400 There was no brain haemorrhage. 846 00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,360 You know, like, what's the use of trying to make a point 847 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:01,880 when you know they're not going to buckle? 848 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,160 They won't get you and do this to you. 849 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:08,800 There was no signs of openness to be thinking any differently. 850 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,480 The thing is, we don't all have to agree. 851 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,880 - The problem is we do. - No, we don't. 852 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,440 This test of our jury system comes to an end 853 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,840 with a verdict that will shock the entire courtroom. 854 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:26,280 Mr Shaun Yang is charged with the manslaughter of Carlo Levetto 855 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:30,520 How say you? Is the accused guilty or not guilty? 856 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,880 Captions by Red Bee Media SBS Australia 2024 70665

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