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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,140 --> 00:00:12,009 the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups, 2 00:00:12,079 --> 00:00:13,924 the police who investigate crime 3 00:00:13,994 --> 00:00:16,801 and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. 4 00:00:16,871 --> 00:00:18,535 These are their stories. 5 00:00:27,105 --> 00:00:28,368 You Okay? 6 00:00:29,711 --> 00:00:31,235 Doctor's ready. 7 00:00:37,069 --> 00:00:39,234 The procedure's scheduled for 2:00. 8 00:00:39,304 --> 00:00:41,679 They'll remove the feeding tube. 9 00:00:41,750 --> 00:00:42,983 If you have any questions... 10 00:00:43,053 --> 00:00:44,426 No. 11 00:00:50,781 --> 00:00:52,144 Sweetheart. 12 00:00:53,888 --> 00:00:55,993 This is what I promised you. 13 00:00:59,171 --> 00:01:00,374 Remember? 14 00:01:13,254 --> 00:01:14,628 I love you. 15 00:01:30,385 --> 00:01:32,510 He's here, he's out here! 16 00:01:32,590 --> 00:01:33,653 Murderer! 17 00:01:33,723 --> 00:01:35,216 Who made you God? 18 00:01:44,859 --> 00:01:46,734 Robert, call me later. 19 00:02:13,056 --> 00:02:14,830 We got one DOA, four injured. 20 00:02:14,900 --> 00:02:16,805 Of the four injured, none of them are likely. 21 00:02:16,875 --> 00:02:19,000 Lucky they were on the doorstep of the E.R. 22 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,917 The DOA, the driver, was a Robert Barrows. 23 00:02:21,987 --> 00:02:24,623 Detective, where's the mobile command center? 24 00:02:24,694 --> 00:02:25,696 On its way, Lieutenant. 25 00:02:25,766 --> 00:02:28,021 Well, until it's here or we're sure there's not another bomb 26 00:02:28,042 --> 00:02:32,081 around here somewhere, everyone is to stay off cell phones and radios. 27 00:02:32,151 --> 00:02:36,071 Well, we don't have to look too far for a motive. Seems pretty obvious. 28 00:02:36,131 --> 00:02:37,474 To anyone watching the news. 29 00:02:37,544 --> 00:02:40,541 Karen Barrows has been on a feeding tube for 11 years. 30 00:02:40,621 --> 00:02:42,285 Her husband tried to get it removed. 31 00:02:42,355 --> 00:02:43,869 The tube was supposed to be taken out today. 32 00:02:43,899 --> 00:02:46,395 We got at least a dozen organized protest groups. 33 00:02:46,465 --> 00:02:50,384 Citizens for Life, Disabled Rights, Christians Unified. 34 00:02:50,455 --> 00:02:52,459 Not counting the people who came here on their own, 35 00:02:52,489 --> 00:02:53,602 which is probably most of them. 36 00:02:53,632 --> 00:02:55,426 No shortage of suspects. 37 00:02:55,497 --> 00:02:57,802 Just a couple of hundred, give or take. 38 00:03:48,843 --> 00:03:51,148 Fragments taken from the chassis of the car. 39 00:03:51,219 --> 00:03:53,694 Looks like a pipe bomb, home workshop model. 40 00:03:53,765 --> 00:03:55,960 It didn't go off when Barrows started the car? 41 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:57,203 Remote detonator. 42 00:03:57,273 --> 00:03:59,248 You can download plans off the internet 43 00:03:59,318 --> 00:04:02,586 and buy the electronics from 100 different places. 44 00:04:02,656 --> 00:04:04,209 Which means the killer was watching this 45 00:04:04,229 --> 00:04:06,224 whole thing happen from some place nearby. 46 00:04:06,304 --> 00:04:09,873 Nature of the detonator, they'd have had to be within 200 yards. 47 00:04:09,953 --> 00:04:13,832 Well, we'll get a couple of guys from the 11th Squad to help with the canvas 48 00:04:13,902 --> 00:04:15,737 and pull the hospital surveillance tapes. 49 00:04:15,807 --> 00:04:19,305 And these news crews, we need to check out what they shot. 50 00:04:19,385 --> 00:04:21,049 Now, when was this bomb planted? 51 00:04:21,119 --> 00:04:23,064 It didn't happen around all these people. 52 00:04:23,495 --> 00:04:26,302 We'll find out where Barrows kept his car. 53 00:04:29,650 --> 00:04:31,053 Robert parked it on the street. 54 00:04:31,624 --> 00:04:32,627 Lot of access. 55 00:04:32,697 --> 00:04:34,932 You'd think the police would have checked it. 56 00:04:35,002 --> 00:04:37,268 They gave him a police escort to the hospital. 57 00:04:37,348 --> 00:04:39,714 They put up bullet-proof curtains, 58 00:04:39,784 --> 00:04:41,448 they even gave him a police radio. 59 00:04:41,528 --> 00:04:43,693 Has the car been out of your possession recently? 60 00:04:43,763 --> 00:04:46,931 Three days ago it was serviced at my cousin's shop in Queens. 61 00:04:47,011 --> 00:04:48,414 But he wouldn't plant a bomb. 62 00:04:48,484 --> 00:04:50,750 Well, has anyone shown up to threaten him personally? 63 00:04:51,592 --> 00:04:52,895 Besides her parents? 64 00:04:53,296 --> 00:04:54,930 Karen's parents? You haven't seen them? 65 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,774 They went on the news. 66 00:04:56,844 --> 00:04:58,678 They called him a monster. 67 00:04:58,749 --> 00:05:01,585 They called me a whore for having kids with him. 68 00:05:02,357 --> 00:05:06,667 When I met him, she had been like that for six years. 69 00:05:07,549 --> 00:05:09,885 Robert dedicated his life to her. 70 00:05:10,316 --> 00:05:12,221 He fought to get money for her care. 71 00:05:12,291 --> 00:05:14,526 Fought how? A malpractice suit. 72 00:05:15,208 --> 00:05:17,643 It took him four years to get a settlement. 73 00:05:18,385 --> 00:05:20,119 How much money are we talking about? 74 00:05:20,861 --> 00:05:22,485 Three point two million. 75 00:05:25,502 --> 00:05:27,136 And who will control this money now? 76 00:05:27,818 --> 00:05:28,980 Guess. 77 00:05:30,354 --> 00:05:32,328 Of course we'll control the trust. 78 00:05:32,398 --> 00:05:34,734 That's how it should've been since the settlement. 79 00:05:34,804 --> 00:05:37,871 But this isn't about money, at least not for us. 80 00:05:37,952 --> 00:05:40,648 You weren't too pleased with the way Robert handled things. 81 00:05:40,728 --> 00:05:43,324 Robert was spending Karen's money on his girlfriend, 82 00:05:43,394 --> 00:05:46,141 buying her clothes, redoing their apartment. 83 00:05:46,211 --> 00:05:48,647 Why do you think he wanted Karen dead? 84 00:05:48,717 --> 00:05:50,812 It's been a hard couple of days. 85 00:05:50,892 --> 00:05:53,127 Good to meet you. Reverend Harlan Dwyre. 86 00:05:53,198 --> 00:05:54,200 How do you do? 87 00:05:54,270 --> 00:05:55,483 Yeah, I've seen you on the news. 88 00:05:55,503 --> 00:05:58,280 Harlan's been a crucial advocate in our fight, 89 00:05:58,350 --> 00:05:59,783 and a good friend. 90 00:05:59,853 --> 00:06:02,019 Were any of you at the hospital when Robert was killed? 91 00:06:02,099 --> 00:06:03,933 We don't go when Robert's there. 92 00:06:04,003 --> 00:06:05,006 It's too painful. 93 00:06:05,076 --> 00:06:06,309 Well, when you are there, 94 00:06:06,379 --> 00:06:08,524 do you ever hear anybody say anything about hurting him? 95 00:06:08,554 --> 00:06:11,321 No, and we would never encourage that. 96 00:06:11,391 --> 00:06:13,385 You've been pretty harsh towards him on the news. 97 00:06:13,466 --> 00:06:15,130 He's been trying to kill our child. 98 00:06:15,210 --> 00:06:16,613 I'm sure that they understand. 99 00:06:16,673 --> 00:06:18,478 And she's still in danger. 100 00:06:18,548 --> 00:06:19,791 The police should be helping us 101 00:06:19,851 --> 00:06:22,196 instead of making us feel like we've done something wrong. 102 00:06:22,267 --> 00:06:24,502 Excuse me. 103 00:06:24,873 --> 00:06:26,276 It's Steven. 104 00:06:27,379 --> 00:06:29,083 Hey, any news? 105 00:06:30,556 --> 00:06:31,559 Yes, I'll tell them. 106 00:06:32,531 --> 00:06:35,027 The court has agreed to hear Karen's petition. 107 00:06:35,107 --> 00:06:36,871 Until then, the feeding tube stays in. 108 00:06:36,941 --> 00:06:39,688 Oh, that's good news. Such good news. 109 00:06:41,191 --> 00:06:42,895 If you don't mind me asking, who's Steven? 110 00:06:43,567 --> 00:06:44,700 Karen's brother. 111 00:06:45,512 --> 00:06:46,564 Where does he live? 112 00:06:48,248 --> 00:06:51,596 I was getting gas downtown on my way to the hospital. 113 00:06:51,666 --> 00:06:54,974 And I caught something on the radio about a car bomb. 114 00:06:55,044 --> 00:06:57,310 Oh, yeah? What time was that? 115 00:06:58,322 --> 00:07:00,587 Uh, it was just before 11:00. 116 00:07:00,657 --> 00:07:01,790 They said it just happened. 117 00:07:01,860 --> 00:07:04,025 Did you happen to get a receipt for that gas? 118 00:07:05,208 --> 00:07:06,702 Come on, guys. 119 00:07:07,754 --> 00:07:09,719 You want me to look for it? 120 00:07:09,789 --> 00:07:11,383 That'd be great. 121 00:07:12,295 --> 00:07:13,297 All right. 122 00:07:15,473 --> 00:07:17,708 You guys questioned my parents. 123 00:07:18,289 --> 00:07:20,344 Couple of 60-year-old retirees, 124 00:07:20,424 --> 00:07:22,229 they seem like the car-bombing type to you? 125 00:07:22,299 --> 00:07:23,682 We're just gathering information, sir. 126 00:07:23,702 --> 00:07:27,170 Don't confuse us with the protesters down at the hospital. 127 00:07:27,251 --> 00:07:29,055 They've never met Karen. 128 00:07:29,125 --> 00:07:31,390 Hey, did any of them ever contact you? 129 00:07:31,460 --> 00:07:33,596 No, and I don't go near them. 130 00:07:34,438 --> 00:07:36,502 The reason some idiot planted a bomb... 131 00:07:36,583 --> 00:07:38,988 To them, Karen stands for something. 132 00:07:39,058 --> 00:07:41,725 To me, she's my little sister. 133 00:07:42,837 --> 00:07:44,271 I just want her alive. 134 00:07:45,644 --> 00:07:46,977 Here you go. 135 00:07:48,992 --> 00:07:50,756 And talk to the guy driving that fuel tanker. 136 00:07:50,826 --> 00:07:53,934 He almost hit my car on the way out of the station. 137 00:07:54,004 --> 00:07:55,908 The brother's gas station receipt checks out. 138 00:07:55,979 --> 00:07:58,023 And there was a fuel tanker there when he said there was. 139 00:07:58,054 --> 00:08:01,432 What about the cousin who serviced Barrows' car three days ago? 140 00:08:01,502 --> 00:08:04,268 There's no record. And no pro-life involvement that we could find. 141 00:08:04,338 --> 00:08:06,945 Does the bomb squad know exactly where it was planted? 142 00:08:07,015 --> 00:08:09,461 It was on the chassis underneath the driver's seat. 143 00:08:09,521 --> 00:08:10,673 So the cousin would have noticed it 144 00:08:10,693 --> 00:08:12,327 when he changed the transmission fluid. 145 00:08:12,397 --> 00:08:14,733 Meaning our bomb was planted in the last three days. 146 00:08:14,813 --> 00:08:16,277 That's our window. 147 00:08:16,347 --> 00:08:19,123 Lieutenant, this is Detective Garcia with Intel. 148 00:08:19,194 --> 00:08:20,467 He's assigned to threat assessment. 149 00:08:20,497 --> 00:08:21,880 He's helping us sort out this hate mail. 150 00:08:21,900 --> 00:08:23,875 Nice to meet you. Anything? 151 00:08:23,935 --> 00:08:25,358 You remember when the Women's Center on 30th Street 152 00:08:25,378 --> 00:08:26,441 was bombed last year? 153 00:08:26,511 --> 00:08:28,486 Yeah, in the middle of the night. 154 00:08:28,556 --> 00:08:31,723 This is a copy of the letter the center got two days before it happened. 155 00:08:31,803 --> 00:08:34,740 "I am the instrument of God's vengeance." 156 00:08:34,811 --> 00:08:36,404 Guy couldn't spell vengeance. 157 00:08:37,317 --> 00:08:40,885 Robert Barrows got this four days ago. Never opened it. 158 00:08:40,965 --> 00:08:42,158 "L am the instrument of..." 159 00:08:42,238 --> 00:08:43,401 It's the same phrase. 160 00:08:43,471 --> 00:08:45,466 Same font, same layout. 161 00:08:47,350 --> 00:08:49,155 Who caught this case? 162 00:08:53,134 --> 00:08:54,267 What a heartbreaker. 163 00:08:54,337 --> 00:08:56,512 It was a ground ball then it all fell apart. 164 00:08:56,582 --> 00:08:57,585 Who was the suspect? 165 00:08:57,655 --> 00:09:01,033 Walter Byrd, some pro-life nut-job. Too perfect, right? 166 00:09:01,093 --> 00:09:03,799 Witness saw him hanging around the clinic at 4:00 a.m. 167 00:09:03,869 --> 00:09:06,175 A minute later, the whole storefront blows off. 168 00:09:06,245 --> 00:09:07,247 How come it didn't stick? 169 00:09:07,318 --> 00:09:09,092 Well, he had no trace explosives on him, 170 00:09:09,162 --> 00:09:11,758 we got no prints, no one saw him plant the bomb. 171 00:09:11,838 --> 00:09:14,835 So we cut him loose. A week later, he's gone. 172 00:09:14,916 --> 00:09:16,409 No forwarding address. Nothing. 173 00:09:16,479 --> 00:09:17,542 What type device was it? 174 00:09:19,226 --> 00:09:20,228 First page. 175 00:09:22,433 --> 00:09:24,338 "Pipe bomb, bleach-based explosive," 176 00:09:24,408 --> 00:09:26,182 "potassium nitrate, remote detonator." 177 00:09:26,252 --> 00:09:27,536 Sounds like it could be our boy. 178 00:09:27,586 --> 00:09:28,628 Well, we've got his photo, 179 00:09:28,658 --> 00:09:31,385 so if he was hanging out with the protesters at the hospital, then... 180 00:09:31,435 --> 00:09:32,557 We'll check it out. 181 00:09:33,109 --> 00:09:37,108 Karen feels the presence of those who love her, she feels joy and pain. 182 00:09:37,188 --> 00:09:40,025 She is not in a vegetative state. She is cognizant. 183 00:09:40,095 --> 00:09:41,098 Excuse me. Pardon me. 184 00:09:41,168 --> 00:09:42,812 Karen can make hand signals to communicate. 185 00:09:42,842 --> 00:09:44,035 Yo! Yo! Come here. 186 00:09:46,581 --> 00:09:48,716 Seems like you've been around here for a few days. 187 00:09:48,796 --> 00:09:50,560 Have you seen this man? 188 00:09:50,630 --> 00:09:51,633 This about the car bomb? 189 00:09:51,703 --> 00:09:53,367 Yes, it is. What do you know about it? 190 00:09:53,437 --> 00:09:54,620 Someone had to stop Robert Barrows, 191 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:55,893 but that wasn't the way to do it. 192 00:09:55,913 --> 00:09:57,326 I'm not asking how it should've been done. 193 00:09:57,356 --> 00:10:00,925 All I'm asking you is this, have you seen this man or not? 194 00:10:02,438 --> 00:10:03,571 Don't think so. 195 00:10:03,641 --> 00:10:04,904 Anybody? 196 00:10:04,984 --> 00:10:06,508 Definitely. 197 00:10:07,189 --> 00:10:08,593 He was handing out flyers. 198 00:10:08,663 --> 00:10:10,497 When was this? About a week ago. 199 00:10:10,568 --> 00:10:11,760 I saw him a couple of times. 200 00:10:11,841 --> 00:10:13,535 Did you take a flyer? 201 00:10:13,605 --> 00:10:17,113 He's pro-life, which sort of bothers me 'cause I'm pro-choice. 202 00:10:17,183 --> 00:10:18,987 Wait, do you know where I could find one? 203 00:10:19,058 --> 00:10:22,235 Maybe on the ground? They were orange with black lettering. 204 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:24,741 Hey. 205 00:10:26,054 --> 00:10:27,889 I got two witnesses who saw him with these. 206 00:10:27,959 --> 00:10:28,961 This it? 207 00:10:29,262 --> 00:10:30,264 I think so. 208 00:10:30,866 --> 00:10:32,399 Check this out. 209 00:10:33,672 --> 00:10:35,707 P.O. box to send donations. 210 00:10:39,927 --> 00:10:42,162 Whatever he's done, I can't help you. 211 00:10:42,243 --> 00:10:44,939 He gave your apartment as a billing address. 212 00:10:45,019 --> 00:10:46,022 Billing address? 213 00:10:46,082 --> 00:10:48,187 Yeah. For a P.O. box. 214 00:10:48,257 --> 00:10:49,730 Do you recognize this? 215 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,204 No, I don't. 216 00:10:51,835 --> 00:10:54,572 He stayed over a couple of times last winter. 217 00:10:54,642 --> 00:10:56,346 And sometimes he gets mail here. 218 00:10:56,416 --> 00:10:57,749 Does he ever come and get it? 219 00:10:57,819 --> 00:10:59,123 Not for awhile. 220 00:10:59,193 --> 00:11:02,100 Anyway, I threw it all out. I don't want him here. 221 00:11:02,410 --> 00:11:04,104 Why, wasn't he an ideal house guest? 222 00:11:04,175 --> 00:11:05,949 He damned near caught my curtains on fire 223 00:11:06,019 --> 00:11:07,613 soldering something in the back room. 224 00:11:09,427 --> 00:11:10,459 Soldering what? 225 00:11:10,530 --> 00:11:12,705 Who knows? I threw it all out. 226 00:11:12,775 --> 00:11:16,013 And when he called, I told him he was not staying here again. 227 00:11:16,584 --> 00:11:17,797 Do you know where he called from? 228 00:11:17,827 --> 00:11:20,523 Didn't ask. I heard kids in the background. 229 00:11:20,603 --> 00:11:22,037 Does Walter have kids? 230 00:11:22,107 --> 00:11:23,540 None I know of. 231 00:11:23,611 --> 00:11:26,517 His ex has kids. Maybe they're back together. 232 00:11:28,592 --> 00:11:30,868 You know? I don't think anyone's at home. 233 00:11:30,938 --> 00:11:32,842 Well, I hear something. 234 00:11:39,528 --> 00:11:41,333 Well, hello there. What's your name? 235 00:11:43,849 --> 00:11:45,342 Is Walter home? 236 00:11:46,886 --> 00:11:47,968 Back door. Got it. I'll go around. 237 00:11:47,988 --> 00:11:49,893 Come out here, honey. That's it. 238 00:11:56,418 --> 00:11:58,724 Police! I heard you go in there. 239 00:12:02,844 --> 00:12:06,081 Step out slowly. I want to see your hands! 240 00:12:06,151 --> 00:12:07,384 I'm coming out. 241 00:12:13,910 --> 00:12:15,443 Put it out! Put it out! 242 00:12:16,325 --> 00:12:18,420 Help! Help! 243 00:12:21,708 --> 00:12:22,901 You okay? Yeah. 244 00:12:27,291 --> 00:12:29,497 Easy, easy. Easy! 245 00:12:31,702 --> 00:12:33,476 I lit a cigarette, which was stupid 246 00:12:33,546 --> 00:12:35,060 'cause I had paint thinner on the table, 247 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,526 and a second later, there's flames everywhere. 248 00:12:37,596 --> 00:12:39,120 I was glad to see this guy. 249 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,224 Don't give us that bull, man. 250 00:12:41,305 --> 00:12:42,898 You were trying to torch the place. 251 00:12:42,979 --> 00:12:44,101 Why would I want to do that? 252 00:12:44,151 --> 00:12:46,517 Because you had more than paint thinner in that shed. 253 00:12:46,587 --> 00:12:49,434 You had potassium nitrate, aluminum fillings, blasting caps. 254 00:12:49,504 --> 00:12:52,271 And a bag of rusty nails like the ones you used in the car bomb, 255 00:12:52,341 --> 00:12:54,446 like the ones they pulled out of Robert Barrows. 256 00:12:54,516 --> 00:12:57,984 Look, I'm not saying I don't make bombs. I do. But, uh... 257 00:12:58,064 --> 00:12:59,187 I use them to go fishing. 258 00:12:59,267 --> 00:13:00,390 Fishing? 259 00:13:00,470 --> 00:13:03,086 Yeah. You throw one in the water and all the fish float to the top. 260 00:13:03,116 --> 00:13:04,119 You heard of that. 261 00:13:04,580 --> 00:13:06,534 Anyway, you said you were at the hospital four days ago. 262 00:13:06,555 --> 00:13:07,597 What were you doing there? 263 00:13:07,627 --> 00:13:10,464 It's wrong what's happening to that girl. I was speaking out. 264 00:13:10,534 --> 00:13:11,817 Speaking to who? Who'd you talk to? 265 00:13:11,837 --> 00:13:12,940 Lots of people. 266 00:13:13,010 --> 00:13:14,814 We're going to dump your ex-wife's phones. 267 00:13:14,884 --> 00:13:16,658 We're going to run down every call. 268 00:13:16,729 --> 00:13:17,731 Go ahead. 269 00:13:17,791 --> 00:13:20,768 And the lab's going to know if the explosive used in the car bomb 270 00:13:20,838 --> 00:13:22,743 matches the batch we found in your shed. 271 00:13:22,813 --> 00:13:25,910 You know, somebody broke into the shed last week, 272 00:13:25,991 --> 00:13:27,113 took a whole bunch of stuff. 273 00:13:29,539 --> 00:13:31,233 Are you trying to amuse us, 274 00:13:31,804 --> 00:13:34,551 or do you really think we're that stupid? 275 00:13:39,773 --> 00:13:41,036 Byrd's ex-wife backs his alibi. 276 00:13:41,106 --> 00:13:42,600 He spent the last four days with her. 277 00:13:42,680 --> 00:13:44,344 Ex or no, still doesn't mean much. 278 00:13:44,414 --> 00:13:45,417 It goes beyond her. 279 00:13:45,487 --> 00:13:47,933 At the time of the explosion, she and Byrd were firing guns 280 00:13:47,993 --> 00:13:50,839 at a range in Arden Heights, and the range confirms it. 281 00:13:50,910 --> 00:13:52,343 Interesting couple. 282 00:13:52,413 --> 00:13:54,979 Where's the lab on the chemicals in Byrd's shed? 283 00:13:55,049 --> 00:13:57,154 It matches the explosives used at the hospital. 284 00:13:57,225 --> 00:13:58,558 Any prints on the bomb fragment? 285 00:13:58,628 --> 00:14:00,603 No, and Crime Scene Unit is not hopeful. 286 00:14:00,673 --> 00:14:02,337 What about the ex-wife's phone records? 287 00:14:02,417 --> 00:14:03,880 So far, just friends and family. 288 00:14:03,951 --> 00:14:05,795 We don't think Byrd used the phone at the house. 289 00:14:05,825 --> 00:14:07,850 Well, someone had to detonate that bomb. 290 00:14:07,930 --> 00:14:09,093 Who was he working with? 291 00:14:09,173 --> 00:14:11,468 It could be somebody from the Calvary Hill Foundation. 292 00:14:11,939 --> 00:14:12,942 Religious group. 293 00:14:13,012 --> 00:14:15,508 Last year, Byrd took an inciting to riot collar 294 00:14:15,588 --> 00:14:19,367 at an anti-evolution rally in Tulsa sponsored by Calvary Hill. 295 00:14:19,437 --> 00:14:22,414 I'm sure they'll be very talkative. Good luck. 296 00:14:25,421 --> 00:14:27,055 Of course we'd like to be of help 297 00:14:27,125 --> 00:14:28,789 but we don't discuss our membership. 298 00:14:28,870 --> 00:14:31,005 Even if they're a homicidal bomber? 299 00:14:31,075 --> 00:14:33,070 Having our literature doesn't make him a member. 300 00:14:33,150 --> 00:14:34,914 And that kind of violent activity 301 00:14:34,984 --> 00:14:36,357 has no place in our ideology. 302 00:14:36,427 --> 00:14:38,192 Well, except for that riot in Tulsa 303 00:14:38,262 --> 00:14:41,179 where there were 16 arrests made outside a school board meeting. 304 00:14:41,239 --> 00:14:44,446 We didn't bring the batons and tear gas, Detective. 305 00:14:44,517 --> 00:14:46,752 If Walter Byrd is a member of our organization 306 00:14:46,832 --> 00:14:49,198 and he did this bombing, it's purely coincidental. 307 00:14:49,268 --> 00:14:50,270 Joe. 308 00:14:51,112 --> 00:14:53,077 Is the Reverend Dwyre a member of your foundation? 309 00:14:53,849 --> 00:14:55,122 A supporter. 310 00:14:58,500 --> 00:15:00,304 Was he also in Tulsa with you? 311 00:15:00,374 --> 00:15:02,249 He spoke at the rally. 312 00:15:03,181 --> 00:15:05,486 Oh, now you think he's involved? 313 00:15:06,900 --> 00:15:10,929 Heated emotional situations, like Karen's, like in Tulsa, 314 00:15:11,009 --> 00:15:14,648 they bring out passionate people, also the extreme. 315 00:15:15,119 --> 00:15:16,222 Like Walter Byrd? 316 00:15:16,292 --> 00:15:17,294 Unfortunately. 317 00:15:17,364 --> 00:15:18,367 How well do you know him? 318 00:15:18,437 --> 00:15:20,502 Well, we've just been at the same rallies. 319 00:15:20,572 --> 00:15:23,609 You just happen to cross paths with a bomb maker at a rally? 320 00:15:23,689 --> 00:15:26,717 Our center supports religious and ethical causes. 321 00:15:26,797 --> 00:15:30,135 Now, he may believe in the same causes, but I deplore his tactics. 322 00:15:30,205 --> 00:15:31,759 His explosions put your face on the news. 323 00:15:31,779 --> 00:15:33,593 I mean, you're getting a lot of air time out of this. 324 00:15:33,623 --> 00:15:36,119 Well, I have a feeling that will end soon. 325 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,164 Do you know the name Mitch Randolph? 326 00:15:38,665 --> 00:15:40,158 Mitch Randolph... 327 00:15:40,239 --> 00:15:43,116 ls he the guy who blew up those four abortion clinics in Oregon? 328 00:15:43,186 --> 00:15:45,070 Half the country's been looking for him for two years. 329 00:15:45,090 --> 00:15:46,353 He's always one step ahead. 330 00:15:46,433 --> 00:15:49,872 Randolph's anonymous blog says that he was in New York recently. 331 00:15:49,942 --> 00:15:51,576 That goes for a lot of other people. 332 00:15:51,646 --> 00:15:55,184 He wrote he was supporting violent action to save Karen's life 333 00:15:55,254 --> 00:15:57,389 and he was here to offer support and knowledge. 334 00:15:57,470 --> 00:15:59,434 And you think he's going to take responsibility? 335 00:15:59,504 --> 00:16:00,667 Yes, I do. 336 00:16:01,780 --> 00:16:04,987 And this Mitch Randolph idea just came to you now, did it? 337 00:16:06,561 --> 00:16:09,799 In my work, it's not a name you drop lightly. 338 00:16:14,390 --> 00:16:16,023 Mitch Randolph is a hero. 339 00:16:16,094 --> 00:16:18,038 Willing to put his ass on the line, you know? 340 00:16:18,098 --> 00:16:21,547 And that you think we'd help you find him is incomprehensible. 341 00:16:22,248 --> 00:16:23,842 Look, you guys are pro-life, right? 342 00:16:23,922 --> 00:16:25,285 Vehemently. 343 00:16:25,797 --> 00:16:27,791 Our murder victim has two kids. 344 00:16:27,872 --> 00:16:29,997 So why aren't you so pro-life about him? 345 00:16:30,077 --> 00:16:31,911 A man with a gun to his wife's head 346 00:16:31,981 --> 00:16:34,718 waiting for a godless court system to pull the trigger? 347 00:16:34,788 --> 00:16:35,921 Sorry. 348 00:16:35,991 --> 00:16:37,965 We don't know where Mitch Randolph is 349 00:16:38,036 --> 00:16:39,740 and we wouldn't tell you if we did. 350 00:16:39,810 --> 00:16:41,644 You're gonna want to watch the attitude. 351 00:16:41,714 --> 00:16:43,950 We can subpoena your computers' files, 352 00:16:44,020 --> 00:16:45,824 track where he blogged from. 353 00:16:45,894 --> 00:16:47,628 Do you really want all those hassles? 354 00:16:47,939 --> 00:16:48,992 You mean, again? 355 00:16:49,072 --> 00:16:50,204 What are you talking about? 356 00:16:50,275 --> 00:16:53,011 Before you harass people doing God's work, 357 00:16:53,091 --> 00:16:55,587 try talking to your pals at the FBI. 358 00:16:56,870 --> 00:16:59,637 When the government is run by fools who condone murder 359 00:16:59,707 --> 00:17:01,441 and the bloodshed of innocents, 360 00:17:01,511 --> 00:17:05,390 it is the responsibility of the people to respond in kind. 361 00:17:06,734 --> 00:17:10,944 It was posted on the Save Our Homeland website as a kind of morale video. 362 00:17:11,214 --> 00:17:12,397 Did you figure out where it was shot? 363 00:17:12,417 --> 00:17:14,101 We matched the wallpaper and window curtains 364 00:17:14,121 --> 00:17:16,597 to the Bandicott Hotel in mid-town three weeks ago. 365 00:17:16,667 --> 00:17:18,762 What was on the Bandicott's surveillance cameras? 366 00:17:18,842 --> 00:17:20,406 Randolph strolling through the lobby. 367 00:17:20,476 --> 00:17:21,509 We need to see that. 368 00:17:21,579 --> 00:17:22,782 There's nothing there. 369 00:17:22,852 --> 00:17:26,059 And neither us or ATF have anything connecting him to this car bombing. 370 00:17:26,130 --> 00:17:29,337 Just him promoting violence on a website. 371 00:17:29,407 --> 00:17:30,941 Generic wacko rambling. 372 00:17:32,054 --> 00:17:33,397 What about the fact he's in the city? 373 00:17:33,427 --> 00:17:36,264 Two weeks ago we had him allegedly spotted in Montana, 374 00:17:36,334 --> 00:17:38,719 and then a tip came in he might be hiding out in South Carolina 375 00:17:38,739 --> 00:17:40,875 with the survivalist dirt farmers. 376 00:17:40,945 --> 00:17:42,037 We don't know where he is. 377 00:17:42,418 --> 00:17:45,866 We still want to see the Bandicott surveillance videos. 378 00:17:48,342 --> 00:17:50,467 There. That's him. 379 00:17:55,128 --> 00:17:56,662 He waits for the elevator. 380 00:17:57,574 --> 00:17:59,338 Elevator doors open. 381 00:17:59,910 --> 00:18:01,283 He gets in. 382 00:18:01,914 --> 00:18:03,388 Door's close. 383 00:18:04,260 --> 00:18:05,453 Can we see it again? 384 00:18:19,005 --> 00:18:20,007 All right. 385 00:18:20,619 --> 00:18:21,711 No, let it keep playing. 386 00:18:27,675 --> 00:18:30,151 Who's the guy in the back doorway? 387 00:18:37,308 --> 00:18:39,403 That looks like Walter Byrd. 388 00:18:40,987 --> 00:18:43,463 We're starting to see a bigger picture here, Mr. Byrd. 389 00:18:43,523 --> 00:18:45,929 Maybe you weren't the only one involved in this bombing. 390 00:18:45,999 --> 00:18:47,472 I wasn't involved at all. 391 00:18:49,006 --> 00:18:50,479 We want to move forward. 392 00:18:50,550 --> 00:18:52,524 Trade up. You familiar with the concept? 393 00:18:52,584 --> 00:18:54,118 Lam. What's the offer? 394 00:18:54,599 --> 00:18:56,093 Twenty years. 395 00:18:56,163 --> 00:18:57,767 Eight, max. 396 00:18:57,837 --> 00:19:00,002 Eighteen concurrent with the clinic bombing 397 00:19:00,082 --> 00:19:01,987 after a full allocution on both. 398 00:19:02,057 --> 00:19:03,079 No. 399 00:19:05,094 --> 00:19:06,096 No. 400 00:19:06,868 --> 00:19:09,344 I mean, you people got no concept of believing in a cause. 401 00:19:09,815 --> 00:19:12,311 Conviction on one and you do at least 25 years. 402 00:19:12,391 --> 00:19:14,196 Fifty if you get consecutive sentences. 403 00:19:15,569 --> 00:19:18,546 There are people in the world who truly care about human life. 404 00:19:19,679 --> 00:19:20,962 Ten seconds and the deal is gone. 405 00:19:21,022 --> 00:19:23,859 People who think that killing is abhorrent. 406 00:19:24,861 --> 00:19:27,567 Anathema. Against the will of God. 407 00:19:28,379 --> 00:19:30,003 Do you even believe in God, Miss Borgia? 408 00:19:30,414 --> 00:19:31,858 I do. Goodbye. 409 00:19:32,489 --> 00:19:33,491 Walter. 410 00:19:37,371 --> 00:19:39,606 What do you want to know about the Reverend? 411 00:19:41,921 --> 00:19:43,184 Reverend? 412 00:19:46,302 --> 00:19:47,465 Dwyre. 413 00:19:49,048 --> 00:19:51,414 He says Dwyre contracted him to build a bomb. 414 00:19:51,484 --> 00:19:53,238 Byrd delivered it to the Reverend's hotel room. 415 00:19:53,258 --> 00:19:55,203 Three days later Robert Barrows blew up. 416 00:19:55,263 --> 00:19:57,398 And where does Mitch Randolph fit in? 417 00:19:57,478 --> 00:19:59,914 Byrd says he doesn't know him, he never met him. 418 00:19:59,984 --> 00:20:02,420 How does he explain the Bandicott surveillance tape? 419 00:20:02,490 --> 00:20:04,966 He says it was a setup orchestrated by Dwyre. 420 00:20:05,036 --> 00:20:06,039 HOW? 421 00:20:06,099 --> 00:20:09,176 Dwyer told Byrd to meet him at the hotel, then he never showed. 422 00:20:09,246 --> 00:20:11,311 Knowing Byrd and Randolph would cross paths 423 00:20:11,391 --> 00:20:12,915 and we'd look at Byrd for the bombing. 424 00:20:12,995 --> 00:20:13,997 That's what he says. 425 00:20:14,068 --> 00:20:16,303 And Byrd wasn't just blowing smoke? 426 00:20:16,373 --> 00:20:19,180 All the specifics point to Byrd and Dwyre. 427 00:20:20,984 --> 00:20:23,590 Did you find any calls between Byrd and the Reverend? 428 00:20:23,660 --> 00:20:24,663 None. 429 00:20:24,733 --> 00:20:26,718 Well, they could've had contact outside the hospital. 430 00:20:26,738 --> 00:20:28,873 Is there anything that Byrd knew about Dwyre 431 00:20:28,943 --> 00:20:30,316 that he couldn't have just made up? 432 00:20:30,386 --> 00:20:31,880 Something we can confirm. 433 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,083 Is that ayes? 434 00:20:34,135 --> 00:20:35,599 Okay, thanks. 435 00:20:35,869 --> 00:20:37,934 Byrd told you that he delivered the bomb to Dwyre 436 00:20:38,014 --> 00:20:39,849 at the Leister Inn, room 1602? 437 00:20:39,919 --> 00:20:41,853 Yeah. Dwyre's in 1602. 438 00:20:41,924 --> 00:20:43,327 Pick him up. 439 00:20:43,868 --> 00:20:45,923 Everyone? I have some wonderful news. 440 00:20:46,003 --> 00:20:47,838 The Lamar family was just informed 441 00:20:47,908 --> 00:20:50,043 that the court has granted our motion 442 00:20:50,113 --> 00:20:53,421 to vacate prior rulings to terminate Karen's life. 443 00:20:56,668 --> 00:20:59,205 Now, her feeding tube will remain in place 444 00:20:59,285 --> 00:21:02,993 and we will keep it in place until she is well enough to feed herself. 445 00:21:05,369 --> 00:21:06,432 Detectives, did you hear? 446 00:21:06,502 --> 00:21:08,326 Yes. Great news. Can we talk to you for a minute? 447 00:21:08,346 --> 00:21:10,150 Not now, they need me. 448 00:21:11,193 --> 00:21:12,717 Listen, you're under arrest. 449 00:21:12,797 --> 00:21:16,465 You want to come calmly, 'cause we don't want to stir up the crowd. 450 00:21:16,536 --> 00:21:19,743 Or are you just about making the news, Reverend? 451 00:21:22,389 --> 00:21:25,767 No, no, no, it's all right. It's all right, everyone. 452 00:21:26,108 --> 00:21:27,441 Whatever happens to me is nothing. 453 00:21:27,512 --> 00:21:30,078 This is about Karen. About her right to life. 454 00:21:32,694 --> 00:21:34,288 Make yourself comfortable, Reverend. 455 00:21:34,368 --> 00:21:36,633 You are making a huge mistake, gentlemen. 456 00:21:36,703 --> 00:21:38,147 Oh, I don't think so. 457 00:21:38,217 --> 00:21:41,815 An ordained minister who orders a pipe bomb through room service? 458 00:21:41,896 --> 00:21:43,520 I'd think it's your mistake, not ours. 459 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,366 Well, let me go on record that I did nothing of the sort. 460 00:21:46,436 --> 00:21:48,571 Then Why'd you throw out Mitch Randolph's name, 461 00:21:48,652 --> 00:21:51,128 unless it was to put this on Walter Byrd? 462 00:21:51,188 --> 00:21:52,571 You're taking the word of that madman? 463 00:21:52,591 --> 00:21:54,896 Where were you when Robert Barrows got blown to pieces? 464 00:21:54,967 --> 00:21:57,533 In good time, gentlemen. In good time. 465 00:21:57,613 --> 00:21:59,858 You're gonna have all the time you need on Rikers Island. 466 00:22:00,550 --> 00:22:02,956 I know you're not from here, but I'm sure you've heard of it. 467 00:22:03,898 --> 00:22:05,141 Thought you'd want to see this. 468 00:22:05,201 --> 00:22:06,203 Thank you. 469 00:22:06,273 --> 00:22:10,223 So, that's how it's done in the blue states. 470 00:22:10,694 --> 00:22:12,689 Threats and intimidation. 471 00:22:13,360 --> 00:22:17,831 You've arrested me for what I stand for, not what you think I did. 472 00:22:17,911 --> 00:22:20,948 Actually, we arrested you because you're a bomb throwing phony. 473 00:22:21,389 --> 00:22:23,364 This is a report from the bomb squad. 474 00:22:23,434 --> 00:22:25,299 They found traces of potassium nitrate 475 00:22:25,369 --> 00:22:27,173 on the desk in your hotel room, 476 00:22:27,243 --> 00:22:31,623 the same compound they used in the explosives that killed Robert Barrows. 477 00:22:32,395 --> 00:22:35,202 Is there anything you'd like to say, Reverend? 478 00:22:37,618 --> 00:22:38,710 I want a lawyer. 479 00:22:47,110 --> 00:22:50,578 "Docket number 53832, People v. Harlan James Dwyre." 480 00:22:50,659 --> 00:22:52,022 "Murder in the second degree," 481 00:22:52,092 --> 00:22:54,618 "criminal possession of a dangerous weapon in the first degree," 482 00:22:54,668 --> 00:22:56,733 "four counts of assault in the first degree." 483 00:22:56,813 --> 00:22:58,648 I never thought I'd be saying this, 484 00:22:58,718 --> 00:22:59,961 but how do you plead, Reverend? 485 00:22:59,991 --> 00:23:01,825 Lam not guilty, Your Honor. 486 00:23:01,895 --> 00:23:03,529 We all know that the only reason. 487 00:23:03,599 --> 00:23:05,664 Reverend Dwyre stands accused here today 488 00:23:05,744 --> 00:23:08,741 is because he opposed the murder of a helpless young woman. 489 00:23:08,822 --> 00:23:10,185 Because he stood up for life. 490 00:23:10,255 --> 00:23:13,603 He's here for his role in the death of one individual 491 00:23:13,663 --> 00:23:15,137 and the injury of four others. 492 00:23:15,207 --> 00:23:16,770 He saved Karen! 493 00:23:16,841 --> 00:23:19,046 Remove those people from the courtroom. 494 00:23:19,116 --> 00:23:20,780 In fact, escort them out of the building. 495 00:23:21,662 --> 00:23:25,902 Anyone else hollering out will be locked up and charged with contempt. 496 00:23:27,716 --> 00:23:30,984 And if you continue to grandstand, Mr. Kirby, the same goes for you. 497 00:23:31,395 --> 00:23:34,372 You can lock us all up, Judge, but you will never silence us. 498 00:23:34,603 --> 00:23:35,635 Your Honor. 499 00:23:35,705 --> 00:23:38,412 You were warned. I find you in contempt of court, sir. 500 00:23:41,158 --> 00:23:43,363 Judge Torledsky gave Dwyre 100 grand bail 501 00:23:43,434 --> 00:23:45,238 and 10 days on a contempt finding. 502 00:23:45,308 --> 00:23:46,872 He manipulated his arraignment 503 00:23:46,942 --> 00:23:48,646 into a pro-life media event. 504 00:23:48,716 --> 00:23:53,427 You better get used to it. This whole case is going to be the Harlan Dwyre Show. 505 00:23:53,498 --> 00:23:56,054 And we're going to look like patsies if it doesn't have the right ending. 506 00:23:56,074 --> 00:23:58,519 We flipped the bomb maker. He'll testify against Dwyre. 507 00:23:58,590 --> 00:24:00,755 Walter Byrd, a zealot himself. 508 00:24:00,825 --> 00:24:02,359 Not the most credible witness. 509 00:24:02,429 --> 00:24:04,203 Agreed. But the explosive residue 510 00:24:04,273 --> 00:24:06,839 in Dwyre's hotel room corroborates Byrd's story. 511 00:24:06,909 --> 00:24:09,987 I don't see the Reverend Dwyre crawling under a car. 512 00:24:10,057 --> 00:24:11,721 Or pushing the button, for that matter. 513 00:24:11,801 --> 00:24:13,164 He has thousands of supporters. 514 00:24:13,234 --> 00:24:15,399 I don't think we'll ever know who all the players were. 515 00:24:15,881 --> 00:24:17,144 Don't be so sure. 516 00:24:17,214 --> 00:24:20,381 When push comes to shove, I doubt Dwyre's going to take one for team. 517 00:24:20,461 --> 00:24:22,987 Harlan Dwyre will do whatever's best for Harlan Dwyre. 518 00:24:23,068 --> 00:24:25,042 Dwyre's notice of alibi. 519 00:24:25,213 --> 00:24:27,618 He was on a radio talk show at the time of the bombing. 520 00:24:27,679 --> 00:24:31,057 Green and Fontana asked for his whereabouts. He gave them the run-around. 521 00:24:31,598 --> 00:24:33,402 Timing is everything. 522 00:24:36,710 --> 00:24:39,156 Arthur Branch, closet liberal. 523 00:24:39,226 --> 00:24:40,228 I always suspected. 524 00:24:40,689 --> 00:24:41,822 Trust me, you're wrong. 525 00:24:41,902 --> 00:24:43,807 Something put Dwyre in his cross hairs, Alex. 526 00:24:43,867 --> 00:24:44,869 Can I call you Alex? 527 00:24:45,811 --> 00:24:48,909 We don't prosecute people unless there's evidence, Miss Sanders. 528 00:24:49,220 --> 00:24:53,800 Or if it's election time with a bleeding heart constituency. 529 00:24:53,871 --> 00:24:55,404 Why else bare fangs at a reverend 530 00:24:55,474 --> 00:24:58,882 trying to save a woman from torture and murder by an adulterous husband? 531 00:24:58,953 --> 00:25:01,659 Was Reverend Dwyre here at the time of the bombing or not? 532 00:25:02,401 --> 00:25:05,779 He was in that chair from 10:00 to 11:00 that morning. 533 00:25:06,711 --> 00:25:09,618 Rodney's cued the tape for the exact time the bomb went off. 534 00:25:09,688 --> 00:25:11,994 Oh, you're absolutely right. It is madness. 535 00:25:12,064 --> 00:25:13,868 And if you think it's going to stop 536 00:25:13,938 --> 00:25:18,078 with Karen and the unborn children, open your eyes. 537 00:25:18,158 --> 00:25:20,353 We're on a ship called the culture of death, folks, 538 00:25:20,423 --> 00:25:22,929 with a legion of godless liberals at the helm. 539 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,876 It's 10:45 here on WPLF Radio. 540 00:25:25,947 --> 00:25:27,781 And if that's not good enough, 541 00:25:27,851 --> 00:25:29,485 I'd be happy to testify in court. 542 00:25:29,896 --> 00:25:31,861 It says on your program notes that Phil Lamar 543 00:25:31,931 --> 00:25:34,016 was a guest that day, but I didn't hear him say anything. 544 00:25:34,036 --> 00:25:37,344 That's because Mr. Lamar had to cancel that morning. 545 00:25:39,358 --> 00:25:41,123 The reason I didn't appear on the program 546 00:25:41,193 --> 00:25:43,729 is I had a call from Karen's lawyers. 547 00:25:44,070 --> 00:25:46,515 They were trying to get a last-minute appeal. 548 00:25:46,585 --> 00:25:47,638 A stay. 549 00:25:47,718 --> 00:25:49,753 I had to go over there and sign an affidavit. 550 00:25:50,164 --> 00:25:52,429 I'll need the firm's name and address. 551 00:25:52,499 --> 00:25:57,110 Pauley and Wyatt. They're In Tribeca, Canal and Greenwich. 552 00:25:57,321 --> 00:25:58,323 You don't believe me? 553 00:25:59,356 --> 00:26:01,060 I'm just doing my job, Mr. Lamar. 554 00:26:02,233 --> 00:26:04,227 Did Reverend Dwyre say something? 555 00:26:05,350 --> 00:26:07,315 The Reverend said a lot of things. 556 00:26:08,728 --> 00:26:11,825 It just seems curious that you're here now, 557 00:26:12,737 --> 00:26:14,542 after the police investigated. 558 00:26:14,612 --> 00:26:18,992 Well, we're discovering something new about the case almost every day. 559 00:26:21,398 --> 00:26:24,505 My father obviously wasn't involved in any of this. 560 00:26:24,575 --> 00:26:26,360 And if you want to speak to him in the future, 561 00:26:26,380 --> 00:26:28,154 you should contact our lawyers. 562 00:26:32,675 --> 00:26:35,872 Bomb residue and a motive won't be enough to nail Dwyre. 563 00:26:35,952 --> 00:26:37,817 Any indication who did the dirty work? 564 00:26:37,887 --> 00:26:39,120 There was a three-day window 565 00:26:39,190 --> 00:26:41,466 when the bomb could've been planted in the car 566 00:26:41,536 --> 00:26:43,340 but we can't put Dwyre in it. 567 00:26:43,410 --> 00:26:47,380 Fontana and Green showed his picture up and down Barrows' neighborhood. 568 00:26:47,450 --> 00:26:48,452 Do me a favor. 569 00:26:48,522 --> 00:26:49,675 Have them retrace their steps 570 00:26:49,695 --> 00:26:51,329 with a photo of Lamar Senior. 571 00:26:51,399 --> 00:26:52,492 Okay. 572 00:26:54,607 --> 00:26:56,411 You're absolutely sure about that? 573 00:26:56,782 --> 00:26:57,965 Yeah, this receipt is from here. 574 00:26:57,985 --> 00:26:59,268 I can tell by the station number. 575 00:27:00,060 --> 00:27:01,062 They're father and son. 576 00:27:01,132 --> 00:27:03,287 Can you remember which one was here buying gas that day? 577 00:27:03,307 --> 00:27:05,112 How can I remember? It's very busy here. 578 00:27:05,182 --> 00:27:07,708 Well, there was a tanker unloading fuel here at the time. 579 00:27:07,788 --> 00:27:09,783 It must be Tuesday morning. 580 00:27:09,863 --> 00:27:11,597 It was a blue Volvo station wagon. 581 00:27:11,667 --> 00:27:13,501 It had a bunch of bumper stickers on the back. 582 00:27:15,115 --> 00:27:16,549 "It's a child, not a choice"? 583 00:27:16,619 --> 00:27:17,681 That would be the one. 584 00:27:17,752 --> 00:27:19,275 Yeah, but these men were not in the car. 585 00:27:19,295 --> 00:27:20,318 It was a woman. 586 00:27:20,398 --> 00:27:21,400 What'd she look like? 587 00:27:22,172 --> 00:27:23,936 Gray hair. Maybe 60? 588 00:27:25,550 --> 00:27:29,960 The gas station manager picked Mrs. Lamar's photo out of the array. 589 00:27:30,031 --> 00:27:31,274 Well, if she faked an alibi for her son, 590 00:27:31,304 --> 00:27:32,867 it probably means he detonated the bomb. 591 00:27:32,937 --> 00:27:34,842 After his father located Barrows' car 592 00:27:34,912 --> 00:27:36,245 so they could plant the thing. 593 00:27:36,315 --> 00:27:38,290 Dwyre had a lot of help. 594 00:27:38,731 --> 00:27:40,826 Very nice. A family project. 595 00:27:46,219 --> 00:27:48,625 I thought we told you to contact us through our lawyers. 596 00:27:48,695 --> 00:27:51,131 You did. Mr. Lamar, is the rest of your family here? 597 00:27:51,201 --> 00:27:53,366 Everyone but Karen. Why? 598 00:27:53,446 --> 00:27:55,311 What's going on, Phil? 599 00:27:56,684 --> 00:27:58,017 I hope you have a warrant. 600 00:27:58,087 --> 00:28:00,934 We do. As a matter of fact, we have one for each of you. 601 00:28:01,004 --> 00:28:04,643 You're all under arrest for conspiracy to murder Robert Barrows. 602 00:28:04,713 --> 00:28:06,116 You have the right to remain silent. 603 00:28:06,186 --> 00:28:08,752 Anything you say can be used against you in a court of law. 604 00:28:08,833 --> 00:28:10,837 You have the right to an attorney. If you cannot... 605 00:28:13,644 --> 00:28:17,283 I only got involved to save Karen's life, Miss Borgia. 606 00:28:17,353 --> 00:28:19,889 Which amounts to a textbook justification defense. 607 00:28:19,969 --> 00:28:22,776 If she'll come forward and be honest about what happened, 608 00:28:22,846 --> 00:28:24,540 we might consider it in mitigation. 609 00:28:24,610 --> 00:28:27,527 I won't testify against anyone in my family. 610 00:28:29,201 --> 00:28:31,105 Who devised the plan to kill your son-in-law? 611 00:28:31,837 --> 00:28:33,331 What do we get in return? 612 00:28:33,611 --> 00:28:36,518 I can't commit to anything until I hear details. 613 00:28:44,046 --> 00:28:46,853 Reverend Dwyre said we had to be prepared 614 00:28:46,923 --> 00:28:49,258 if we lost Karen's case in court. 615 00:28:50,100 --> 00:28:54,380 She couldn't protect herself against Robert so we had to do it for her. 616 00:28:55,082 --> 00:28:57,819 It sounded right in principle, but then“. 617 00:29:01,167 --> 00:29:02,369 Then what, Mrs. Lamar? 618 00:29:05,958 --> 00:29:11,341 He started saying how everybody would be fine once Robert was gone. 619 00:29:11,702 --> 00:29:13,546 He was advocating murder. 620 00:29:13,616 --> 00:29:15,019 My husband thought it was just talk, 621 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,089 but Steven wouldn't let it go. 622 00:29:20,071 --> 00:29:21,124 Why? 623 00:29:22,307 --> 00:29:24,281 After we lost the last appeal, 624 00:29:24,351 --> 00:29:26,988 and we all knew Karen was going to die, 625 00:29:27,559 --> 00:29:30,095 Dwyre started taking Steven aside. 626 00:29:31,007 --> 00:29:34,917 They'd have these private talks, pray together. 627 00:29:36,190 --> 00:29:37,663 He got it in my son's head 628 00:29:37,723 --> 00:29:39,287 that something needed to be done. 629 00:29:39,768 --> 00:29:41,673 That something being a car bomb. 630 00:29:41,743 --> 00:29:45,211 Dwyre told him saving Karen was the most important thing 631 00:29:45,281 --> 00:29:47,727 he would ever do in his whole life. 632 00:29:48,930 --> 00:29:50,834 He also said we needed to make a statement 633 00:29:50,904 --> 00:29:53,280 for all the other Karens out there. 634 00:29:55,185 --> 00:29:57,490 Who planted the bomb, Mr. Lamar? 635 00:29:58,563 --> 00:30:04,206 Steven said he was going forward with or without our consent. 636 00:30:05,419 --> 00:30:06,892 He's our son. 637 00:30:08,296 --> 00:30:10,330 We had to protect him, too. 638 00:30:11,503 --> 00:30:12,566 "JACK". Was it Steven? 639 00:30:17,828 --> 00:30:19,362 I won't say that in court. 640 00:30:20,074 --> 00:30:22,479 That'll limit what lam able do for you. 641 00:30:23,151 --> 00:30:25,617 Then can you do something for my son? 642 00:30:28,493 --> 00:30:30,729 He planted a bomb and killed a man. 643 00:30:31,210 --> 00:30:33,736 It was Robert's life or Karen's. 644 00:30:34,488 --> 00:30:35,851 His sister. 645 00:30:36,793 --> 00:30:38,457 What would you do? 646 00:30:41,003 --> 00:30:42,998 Karen will recover. 647 00:30:43,950 --> 00:30:46,256 She will walk and talk again. 648 00:30:46,326 --> 00:30:50,325 So the threat of a court order to starve her to death 649 00:30:51,578 --> 00:30:55,578 keeps us awake at night with our stomachs twisted. 650 00:30:57,733 --> 00:30:59,397 It consumes our... 651 00:31:03,747 --> 00:31:06,253 It consumes our lives. 652 00:31:17,359 --> 00:31:18,763 They made some very bad choices 653 00:31:18,833 --> 00:31:20,567 in an impossible situation. 654 00:31:20,637 --> 00:31:21,669 What do you propose? 655 00:31:21,740 --> 00:31:23,143 Pleas down to conspiracy. 656 00:31:23,213 --> 00:31:26,782 Five to 15 years for the father, probation for the mother. 657 00:31:27,463 --> 00:31:29,488 If you're sure they're less culpable. 658 00:31:29,568 --> 00:31:31,102 I buy their story. 659 00:31:31,172 --> 00:31:32,776 Where are you on the other defendants? 660 00:31:32,846 --> 00:31:35,342 Neither lawyer is returning my calls. 661 00:31:35,422 --> 00:31:36,795 Well, the son has no leverage, 662 00:31:36,865 --> 00:31:39,301 but you'd think the good Reverend Dwyre 663 00:31:39,371 --> 00:31:42,208 would be looking for a way to wiggle off the hook. 664 00:31:42,278 --> 00:31:44,814 Maybe he thinks the evidence against him is too tenuous. 665 00:31:44,884 --> 00:31:46,659 He supplied the weapon for the murder. 666 00:31:46,729 --> 00:31:49,064 But he stayed just far enough away from its execution 667 00:31:49,135 --> 00:31:51,340 to have plausible deniability. 668 00:31:51,741 --> 00:31:53,184 Or he believes he'll ride 669 00:31:53,254 --> 00:31:55,881 the Steven Lamar justification defense to an acquittal. 670 00:31:55,961 --> 00:31:59,058 And greater fame. Either way, I don't want him or need him. 671 00:31:59,138 --> 00:32:01,273 Okay, then. Set atrial date. 672 00:32:04,722 --> 00:32:09,172 Steven Lamar was legally justified in his actions against Robert Barrows 673 00:32:09,232 --> 00:32:10,796 and I sit next to him proudly 674 00:32:10,876 --> 00:32:14,715 to defend this shameless attack on the Lamar family. 675 00:32:14,785 --> 00:32:17,522 Aren't you afraid of going to jail, Reverend? 676 00:32:17,602 --> 00:32:20,840 For what? An innocent woman's life was saved. 677 00:32:20,910 --> 00:32:23,717 Why would anybody go to jail for anything? 678 00:32:24,057 --> 00:32:25,060 Next question. 679 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,465 Should we bring the judge out here and try it on the steps? 680 00:32:27,536 --> 00:32:29,440 Why bother with a judge? 681 00:32:30,743 --> 00:32:33,550 We met in Central Park by the big fountain. 682 00:32:33,620 --> 00:32:35,234 The Reverend wanted to know if I could make a device 683 00:32:35,254 --> 00:32:37,259 that could be planted under a car. 684 00:32:37,329 --> 00:32:39,203 What did you do? 685 00:32:39,504 --> 00:32:41,138 Filled his order. 686 00:32:41,278 --> 00:32:42,812 Bought some potassium nitrate, 687 00:32:42,882 --> 00:32:45,288 some PCB tubing, some nails. 688 00:32:46,460 --> 00:32:48,195 Put it together. Took it to his hotel room. 689 00:32:48,505 --> 00:32:49,598 Which was where? 690 00:32:49,678 --> 00:32:51,943 The Leister Inn in Manhattan, room 1602. 691 00:32:52,344 --> 00:32:54,119 What happened when you arrived there? 692 00:32:54,189 --> 00:32:57,326 I knocked on the door, he opened it. 693 00:33:00,013 --> 00:33:02,949 Which defendant are you pointing to, Mr. Byrd? 694 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,122 Steve Lamar. 695 00:33:04,854 --> 00:33:07,961 He said Harlan asked him to accept the package personally. 696 00:33:08,032 --> 00:33:09,475 Harlan meaning? 697 00:33:10,578 --> 00:33:12,101 The Reverend Dwyre. 698 00:33:12,181 --> 00:33:14,286 Any question what the package was? 699 00:33:14,357 --> 00:33:17,233 The Reverend ordered a bomb, that's what I delivered. 700 00:33:19,439 --> 00:33:21,313 Nothing further. 701 00:33:23,258 --> 00:33:26,756 My partner and I arrived on the scene to find a late model sedan 702 00:33:26,836 --> 00:33:30,294 that had been blown up by some kind of explosive device. 703 00:33:30,775 --> 00:33:33,883 What did your examination of the car reveal, Detective Green? 704 00:33:33,953 --> 00:33:35,988 There was a body in the driver's seat, 705 00:33:36,058 --> 00:33:38,504 and because the explosion was so powerful, 706 00:33:38,574 --> 00:33:41,010 we couldn't determine the race or the gender. 707 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,145 But the car was registered to Robert Barrows. 708 00:33:44,628 --> 00:33:46,362 So what did you do? 709 00:33:46,663 --> 00:33:48,297 We went to Mr. Barrows' apartment. 710 00:33:48,367 --> 00:33:49,369 Was anybody home? 711 00:33:49,740 --> 00:33:53,750 Yes, his long-time girlfriend, Susan Alfani, and their two sons. 712 00:33:53,820 --> 00:33:55,765 We broke the news to her, 713 00:33:55,825 --> 00:33:59,103 and she confirmed that he did take the car to the hospital that morning. 714 00:33:59,173 --> 00:34:01,308 What else did your conversation with her reveal? 715 00:34:01,378 --> 00:34:05,127 That there was bad blood between Robert and the Lamar family. 716 00:34:05,628 --> 00:34:06,891 Specifically? 717 00:34:06,971 --> 00:34:09,838 That Robert had watched Karen waste away for six years 718 00:34:09,908 --> 00:34:11,682 and wanted to end her suffering, 719 00:34:11,753 --> 00:34:15,131 and the Lamar family didn't approve. 720 00:34:20,714 --> 00:34:23,550 As part of your investigation, Detective Green, 721 00:34:23,621 --> 00:34:26,157 did you scrutinize over 500 death threats? 722 00:34:26,227 --> 00:34:27,229 We knew of them. 723 00:34:27,299 --> 00:34:29,986 And how many of those did you trace back to the source of the threat? 724 00:34:30,016 --> 00:34:31,108 None. 725 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,043 No further questions. 726 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,025 Why didn't you trace the threats, Detective? 727 00:34:38,105 --> 00:34:40,601 Every one of those letters were anonymous. 728 00:34:40,681 --> 00:34:42,987 Plus, we already had a positive ID on the bomb maker, 729 00:34:43,057 --> 00:34:46,435 which led us directly to the arrest of Reverend Dwyre. 730 00:34:46,866 --> 00:34:48,740 Nothing further. 731 00:34:51,988 --> 00:34:54,724 Mr. McCoy, I think you've made your point 732 00:34:55,266 --> 00:34:59,676 charging me in this case and I'm willing to take my rap on the knuckles. 733 00:35:01,781 --> 00:35:04,387 But you know this was a matter of personal conscience. 734 00:35:04,457 --> 00:35:08,667 What was happening to Karen was murder in the eyes of God. 735 00:35:09,580 --> 00:35:11,815 That's why you suggested a bombing 736 00:35:11,885 --> 00:35:16,025 and procured a bomb for the Lamar family, specifically Steven Lamar? 737 00:35:16,666 --> 00:35:18,872 He was the most devoted to the cause. 738 00:35:18,942 --> 00:35:21,247 He was the weakest, wasn't he? 739 00:35:21,317 --> 00:35:23,342 And now you're throwing him under a bus. 740 00:35:23,422 --> 00:35:25,898 Shadows your motivation, don't you think? 741 00:35:25,968 --> 00:35:29,567 There was no personal interest in this for me. 742 00:35:29,647 --> 00:35:31,953 Your press conferences say different. 743 00:35:32,023 --> 00:35:34,960 For testimony against Steven, 15 years. 744 00:35:35,461 --> 00:35:37,967 Fifteen years? For preaching his beliefs? 745 00:35:38,037 --> 00:35:40,673 He preyed on the Lamar family like a vulture. 746 00:35:40,753 --> 00:35:44,282 My only concern was saving Karen's life. 747 00:35:44,362 --> 00:35:47,028 That may work for the Lamar family, but not for you. 748 00:35:50,486 --> 00:35:51,820 Mr. McCoy, 749 00:35:53,022 --> 00:35:56,471 it's my understanding that Steven did this for money. 750 00:35:57,804 --> 00:36:00,340 To use the settlement to open a business. 751 00:36:01,683 --> 00:36:04,219 To finally make something of himself. 752 00:36:05,031 --> 00:36:06,294 He told me directly. 753 00:36:09,812 --> 00:36:10,845 Fifteen years. 754 00:36:14,263 --> 00:36:16,237 I will not go to prison. 755 00:36:18,212 --> 00:36:21,310 That is in the hands of a higher power, Reverend. 756 00:36:21,620 --> 00:36:23,254 The criminal justice system. 757 00:36:34,661 --> 00:36:36,395 My family and I were grateful 758 00:36:36,465 --> 00:36:40,274 that a man of Reverend Dwyre's stature had taken on Karen's case. 759 00:36:40,355 --> 00:36:43,382 After that, we thought maybe there was a chance. 760 00:36:43,462 --> 00:36:45,958 A chance for what, Steven? 761 00:36:46,038 --> 00:36:47,371 To save Karen's life. 762 00:36:47,712 --> 00:36:51,210 And was Reverend Dwyre able to accomplish anything? 763 00:36:51,291 --> 00:36:52,654 He was tremendous. 764 00:36:52,724 --> 00:36:54,628 He brought out a lot of support for Karen. 765 00:36:55,270 --> 00:36:58,177 He made the whole country sit up and take notice. 766 00:36:58,247 --> 00:37:00,913 But it wasn't enough, was it? 767 00:37:00,984 --> 00:37:02,858 Well, the courts ruled against us. 768 00:37:02,928 --> 00:37:05,023 We hoped the Governor or maybe even the President 769 00:37:05,103 --> 00:37:08,201 would step in and stop Robert from killing Karen, 770 00:37:09,484 --> 00:37:11,007 but nobody did. 771 00:37:11,087 --> 00:37:14,927 There was only one thing we could do to save Karen's life. 772 00:37:15,297 --> 00:37:16,631 Which was what? 773 00:37:16,701 --> 00:37:19,407 My parents had to get guardianship back. 774 00:37:19,618 --> 00:37:21,141 And Robert wouldn't give it up. 775 00:37:22,094 --> 00:37:23,357 So what happened? 776 00:37:24,730 --> 00:37:26,394 We drew up a plan. 777 00:37:26,805 --> 00:37:28,008 I got the bomb. 778 00:37:28,509 --> 00:37:31,315 I put it under Robert's car with duct tape, 779 00:37:34,202 --> 00:37:37,660 and I set it off when he was getting in at the hospital. 780 00:37:39,485 --> 00:37:41,419 I know it sounds terrible, 781 00:37:43,093 --> 00:37:46,201 but isn't it like shooting a burglar in your home 782 00:37:46,702 --> 00:37:48,677 who's trying to harm your family? 783 00:37:57,678 --> 00:38:00,845 So why didn't you get a gun and shoot him, Mr. Lamar? 784 00:38:01,788 --> 00:38:02,950 I don't know. 785 00:38:03,031 --> 00:38:07,601 And then turn yourself in, as you would if you'd shot a burglar in your home? 786 00:38:10,318 --> 00:38:13,425 You killed Robert Barrows with a pipe bomb 787 00:38:14,197 --> 00:38:16,172 because you and Reverend Dwyre 788 00:38:16,242 --> 00:38:20,622 wanted the splashiest murder you could cook up for the news media? 789 00:38:20,692 --> 00:38:22,356 I never thought of it that way. 790 00:38:22,427 --> 00:38:26,135 Or maybe all you were concerned about was not getting caught? 791 00:38:26,205 --> 00:38:28,040 No. I mean, 792 00:38:29,313 --> 00:38:31,217 I just wanted my sister to stay alive. 793 00:38:32,460 --> 00:38:34,455 If this was such a noble cause, 794 00:38:34,535 --> 00:38:35,969 why did you lie to the police? 795 00:38:36,540 --> 00:38:38,134 Why did you evade capture? 796 00:38:38,214 --> 00:38:42,123 Because the justice system is controlled by godless politicians 797 00:38:42,193 --> 00:38:43,827 who don't care about human life. 798 00:38:43,897 --> 00:38:46,133 Is that something you believe, 799 00:38:46,203 --> 00:38:49,110 or something you heard from Reverend Dwyre? 800 00:38:49,180 --> 00:38:50,393 He doesn't put words in my mouth. 801 00:38:50,423 --> 00:38:52,398 No. He just sends you out 802 00:38:52,929 --> 00:38:56,066 to plant a pipe bomb under your brother-in-law's car? 803 00:38:56,136 --> 00:38:58,642 It was my idea, not his. 804 00:38:59,785 --> 00:39:02,451 You decided, little old Steven Lamar, 805 00:39:02,532 --> 00:39:04,657 all by yourself, to play God? 806 00:39:06,972 --> 00:39:09,508 No, it wasn't like that. 807 00:39:11,022 --> 00:39:14,329 Karen was a lamb that needed to be saved. 808 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,003 I was doing His work. 809 00:39:16,074 --> 00:39:18,309 God's or Reverend Dwyre's? 810 00:39:18,379 --> 00:39:21,156 Why are you trying to blame this on him? 811 00:39:21,998 --> 00:39:23,862 He would never kill anyone. He's a great man. 812 00:39:23,932 --> 00:39:27,280 Who in your eyes was qualified to decide 813 00:39:27,340 --> 00:39:29,074 who should live and who should die? 814 00:39:29,586 --> 00:39:32,723 No. Well, who contacted Walter Byrd? 815 00:39:33,595 --> 00:39:35,971 Who ordered the pipe bomb from him? 816 00:39:36,041 --> 00:39:38,487 Who had it delivered to his hotel room? 817 00:39:46,576 --> 00:39:48,110 I killed Robert. 818 00:39:49,082 --> 00:39:51,287 So at the end of the day, Mr. Lamar, 819 00:39:51,357 --> 00:39:53,923 only you get credit for saving Karen's life? 820 00:39:58,614 --> 00:40:01,491 Reverend Dwyre inspired me to do the Lord's work. 821 00:40:02,093 --> 00:40:06,403 But I was His soldier. I was the one who carried out the mission. 822 00:40:06,473 --> 00:40:09,210 There's another name for that, Mr. Lamar. 823 00:40:09,651 --> 00:40:13,620 It's called "taking the rap." 824 00:40:13,700 --> 00:40:14,793 Objection. 825 00:40:14,873 --> 00:40:17,810 Sustained. You've made your point, Mr. McCoy. 826 00:40:35,913 --> 00:40:37,156 Has the jury reached a verdict? 827 00:40:37,216 --> 00:40:38,218 We have, Your Honor. 828 00:40:39,050 --> 00:40:41,115 As to the defendant Steven Lamar, 829 00:40:41,195 --> 00:40:43,601 on the count of murder in the second degree, how do you find? 830 00:40:43,771 --> 00:40:45,967 We find Steven Lamar guilty. 831 00:40:48,623 --> 00:40:51,029 As to the defendant Harlan James Dwyre, 832 00:40:51,099 --> 00:40:54,076 on the count of murder in the second degree, how do you find? 833 00:40:54,136 --> 00:40:57,273 We've been unable to reach a unanimous verdict. 834 00:40:57,344 --> 00:40:58,837 Are you hopelessly deadlocked? 835 00:40:58,917 --> 00:41:00,792 I'm afraid so, Your Honor. 836 00:41:00,862 --> 00:41:02,165 In that case I have no choice 837 00:41:02,235 --> 00:41:05,102 but to declare a mistrial as to Reverend Dwyre. 838 00:41:05,172 --> 00:41:07,307 Mr. Lamar will be remanded until the sentence date. 839 00:41:07,989 --> 00:41:09,953 This court is adjourned. 840 00:41:13,973 --> 00:41:16,409 I checked with the Department of Corrections. 841 00:41:16,479 --> 00:41:19,817 The Reverend visited with Steve Lamar at Rikers 842 00:41:19,887 --> 00:41:22,062 over the weekend before he testified. 843 00:41:22,864 --> 00:41:24,668 Convinced him of his higher calling. 844 00:41:24,739 --> 00:41:26,302 Nailed him to the cross. 845 00:41:26,382 --> 00:41:28,507 Next time, the jury will see through it. 846 00:41:28,588 --> 00:41:30,181 Assuming there is a next time. 847 00:41:30,262 --> 00:41:32,527 If we try Dwyre again, what's going to be different? 848 00:41:32,597 --> 00:41:34,592 We will be able to concentrate on one defendant. 849 00:41:34,672 --> 00:41:37,338 With the same evidence you had on the first go-round. 850 00:41:37,419 --> 00:41:40,015 And there's always gonna be folks on the jury 851 00:41:40,095 --> 00:41:42,461 who are sympathetic to Dwyre's position on the bigger issue. 852 00:41:44,104 --> 00:41:46,009 Who decides who lives and dies? 853 00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:49,247 You have to check this out. The press conference. 854 00:41:51,261 --> 00:41:53,366 When I explained to Karen that she's not 855 00:41:53,437 --> 00:41:57,075 going to see her father and her brother for a long time, 856 00:41:57,145 --> 00:41:58,779 she got very sad. 857 00:41:59,621 --> 00:42:03,039 Her lovely eyes, there were tears in them. 858 00:42:04,443 --> 00:42:06,377 But she understands. 859 00:42:06,447 --> 00:42:10,447 And she's grateful to Steven and her father 860 00:42:10,527 --> 00:42:13,865 for the sacrifice that they've made. 861 00:42:14,406 --> 00:42:16,782 It's all right. It's all right. 862 00:42:16,852 --> 00:42:18,847 Thank you, everyone, that's all for today. 67297

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