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an enormous freight train is out of
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control tearing through the Canadian
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Rockies the crew does nothing to slow
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the Train's terrifying speed Jack are
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you there charging the other way a
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passenger train with more than a 100
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people on
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board front end Jack come in
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oh my
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God mayday mayday we're doing 90 M an
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hour out of
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control take a life jacket where's the
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crcard don't let
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go it's one of the most spectac spacular
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train rides in the
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world every year thousands of people
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take the slow and easy way through
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Canada's Rocky Mountains avoiding
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traffic they take the train and leave
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the driving to somebody
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else in late winter 1986 a gentle trip
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through the Rockies will end
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tragically it was like a mini atom bomb
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and all of a sudden it ignited
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w I'm going to help you I can hear the
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women screaming you know
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um just save her
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baby an investigation makes shocking
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discoveries about the Canadian railroad
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industry at that time I didn't think
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that anything was wrong
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wrong February the 8th 1986 spectacular
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Northern Lights dance across the sky
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over Edson Alberta in western
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Canada driving freight trains has been a
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lifelong dream for 48-year-old Canadian
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national Railways engineer Jack
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Hudson but after 16 years on the job he
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knows all too well that it can be a
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groeling
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career because Canadian freight trains
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travel such vast distances up to 12
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local Crews may be used in the course of
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one CrossCountry Journey Hudson Works a
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mountainous stretch of track through
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Alberta running between his hometown of
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Jasper and Edson to the east
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like many train men Hudson Works a
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regular beat driving over the same
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stretch of track then turning around
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again with another train day after
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day at around 11:00 p.m. last night
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Hudson got off the freight train from
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Jasper
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and spent the night here in the company
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bunk house at
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Edson now he's up again after just 3 and
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1/ half hours of sleep ready to return
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to
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Jasper at the station he's joined by his
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Breakman like Hudson 25-year-old Mark
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Edwards lives in Jasper and like Hudson
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he hasn't slept very much
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did you get some rest Not much got to
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touch the flu could use a full night's
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sleep Hudson and Edwards will ride up
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front in the first engine Hudson drives
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the train while Edwards keeps an eye on
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the brakes and pitches in if Hudson
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needs any
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help known to his fellow railman as
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Smitty 33-year-old Wayne Smith is
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Hudson's conductor he's the last of the
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three-man crew in charge of the freight
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train this morning as many
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Smith rides in the Caboose the last car
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in the train he acts as an extra set of
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eyes making sure the men in the front
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end know what's going on behind
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them the three men are longtime
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employees of Canadian national or CN
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rail and all of them have been up and
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down this length of track countless
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times
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before the train they're riding today is
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enormous
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CN train 413 is just under 2 km long the
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cars are filled with a collection of
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grain metal pipes and chemicals it tips
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the scales at more than 11 million
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kilos as the freight rolls into Edson it
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slows to a crawl but doesn't stop
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getting it started again would take time
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and the crew wants their trip to begin
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as soon as
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possible Hudson and Edwards take the
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train on the Fly ing it as it rolls
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slowly
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along according to CN rail's code of
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conduct this is illegal but it's
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something Crews do
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routinely with the Caboose still nearly
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2 km away Smith stands by the track to
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inspect the cargo as it crawls by he
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makes sure there's nothing obviously
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wrong with the freight or the cars
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carrying it all set Jack
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clear signal leaving
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Edson clear signal leaving
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Edson another part of Smith's job is to
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stay in touch with the front end of the
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train he's supposed to make sure they're
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alert throughout the
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journey now with the Caboose pulling
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alongside the platform Smith climbs
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aboard
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okay he's got the brakes off you're good
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to go see you
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later at 6:40 a.m. Hudson pushes the
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throttle the freight train picks up
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speed as its 8,000 horsepower diesel
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engines open up the CN freight train
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Begins the Long Hall West to Jasper the
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men are going
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home dispatcher to 413 good morning
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dispatcher good morning Jack but Hudson
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isn't sure exactly how long his train is
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or precisely what he's carrying at
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Medicine Lodge here I haven't had a
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chance yet oh that's uh you got pretty
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well All Grain cars eh yeah I think so
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yeah it should be the right L then okay
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okay
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thanks as 413 Roars West a via passenger
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train speeds East on the same track
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via rails supercontinental passenger
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train number four is cruising toward
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Edmonton
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Alberta more than a 100 passengers are
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enjoying the spectacular scenery as it
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cruises through the rugged Canadian
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Rockies 36-year-old Jamie hait is a car
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assembly operator he's headed home to
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Ontario after a twoe visit to his family
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in Vancouver it's a very very small
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community that you're you're you're
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close proximity with a lot of people
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very very suddenly and and so there's a
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lot of people we got to meet and got got
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to interact with I remember there was a
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couple of ladies that we that we met
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over dinner one was was was very very
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pregnant while some passengers are still
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sleeping ha goes into the day coach to
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do some reading before breakfast it's
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the fourth car in the train I remember
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this uh this lady and she had a a little
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boy with her about 3 years old or
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whatever he was quite an awe the little
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child was quite an awe of a
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scenery so I sat down on it and I lifted
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the shade a little bit so I could get
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some of the daylight coming in and I
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started to read a pocket
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novel several cars behind hate is 61
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one-year-old assistant conductor Herbert
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timy an old hand on the Canadian
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passenger line he's been riding this
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piece of track for 7 years I had to be
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the assistant conductor and look after
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the passengers on that
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train next
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stop
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Hinton the passenger train is pulling
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into Hinton the freight train is just
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about to reach hawin station 20 km
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East here the fail line briefly splits
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into two so trains can pass each other
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413 will take the upper track while the
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passenger train passes below
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it as Hudson approaches the split in the
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tracks traffic signal lights tell him to
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slow
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down Smitty you've got an approach
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limited signal at Harwin next station
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Dale Hurst
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over head in to 413 approach limited
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hard uin next station Dale Hurst
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out these are the last words these men
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will ever
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exchange the dispatcher in Edmonton sets
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a switch and 413 is forced onto the
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upper
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track
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the Via passenger train arrives at
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Hinton station at 8:20 a.m. on board
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64-year-old Martin peton settles down to
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breakfast in the downstairs Lounge of
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the Dome car he's feeling rested after a
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good night's
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sleep a former World War II fighter
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pilot pedison has a lot of experience
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with locomotives over the course of the
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war he blew up 36 enemy trains in
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France
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the night before pedison swapped War
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stories with another veteran he met on
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board 61 year-old Kenneth cattle is a
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former Royal Marine it was February I
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was going to
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Edmonton to look for another
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job like pedison cuttle also fought
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Behind Enemy Lines in World War II cutle
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and pedison are survivors uh let's go
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upstairs to the dorm car have a look
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around see what's happening the train
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was pretty comfortable you know not many
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people on board I said let's go up to
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the Dome car because it was just coming
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light and we see lots of things which
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you might not get another chance to see
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we were in the foothills of the Rocky
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Mountains there are now 115 people on
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board but the train will never make it
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to Edmonton and the passengers and crew
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enjoying the early morning trip will
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soon be fighting for their
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lives
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it's a clear Sunny morning on board a
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passenger train in western Canada
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breakfast is being served as the train
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rolls East through the Canadian
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Rockies just 15 km away an 11 million
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kilo freight train CN 413 rumbles down
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the track towards
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it with diesel engines still pounding at
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Full Throttle it's pulling 113 rail cars
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of grain and hazardous material
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from the outside everything looks normal
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but what's going on inside the lead
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engine of 4113 is about to become one of
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the greatest mysteries in Canadian
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railroad
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history freight trains and passenger
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trains often travel on the same track
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for short sections the track splits so
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trains heading in opposite directions
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can pass safely today 413 is on the
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upper
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Branch signals tell the freight train to
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slow then stop completely the signals
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will only turn green again once the
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passenger train has passed safely by
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below then the freight train can rejoin
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the main
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line but 413 isn't slowing down it's now
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heading downhill and it charges through
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the warning lights if it doesn't stop
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soon it will return to the main line at
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full speed straight into the path of the
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passenger
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train unaware of the bizarre behavior of
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413 the passenger train continues
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East Martin pedon gets his
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breakfast
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hi up ahead the freighter Thunders
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through the last set of light signals
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ignoring three red lights that command
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it to stop
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it slams back onto the main line it's
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traveling 95 km an hour and weighs more
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than 11 million kilos and still it
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doesn't slow
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down Herbert timy sits to
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relax Ken cutle has a clear view of the
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Railway ahead i' gotten uh conversation
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with an English guy and he had his back
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to the front and I was looking over his
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shoulder forward the way the train was
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going there was a flickering light in
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the
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distance and not knowing the track
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layout I
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thought oh there must be another line
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and if it's another train it's going to
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go past us you
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know
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just I was reading the pocket novel one
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of the girls from the party or
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group happened to just walk past
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me oh my
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God oh my
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God
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and then
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boom the trains Collide like two
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charging Rams at a combined speed of
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nearly 200
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kmph passengers are rocked by one
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Collision after another as 70 Freight
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cars pile into the
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wreckage like an incoming wave great
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rain cars long pipes 3T in diameter 30
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ft in length you name it and these were
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flying through the air like
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toys thrown from the tracks by the force
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of the Collision One freight car flies
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through the air smashing to a stop on
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the via train the whole world seemed to
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explode it was like a mini atom
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bomb it was a big mushroom of black
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smoke
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then everything was
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dark they could no longer breathe
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because everything was filled with
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smoke oh I'm going to
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die and the third thing that happened
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was I just resigned myself to
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that
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I've been working about 37 years and uh
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on the Railroad and I never never seen
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anything so
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bad the wave of metal Grain cars stopped
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just where the Dome car was if it had
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gone another 30 ft it would have covered
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us as
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well in the same car one deck below
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Martin pedon struggled to escape but he
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can barely see what's happening in front
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of him the window beside him shattered
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during impact filling his eyes with
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broken
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glass almost 2 km behind the engine the
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Caboose of train 413 finally lurches to
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a
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stop conductor Wayne Smith sees a ball
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of fire glowing in the distance but he
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has no idea how bad the situation is
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front end
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413 I think we're in the bush or we're
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derailed there is a big explosion up
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here and we have chemicals on the train
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so stay away from it stay away from the
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dangerous
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goods but all Smith gets in reply is an
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ominous
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silence passengers continue to struggle
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to escape the mangled wreck of their
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train as the smoke thickens I was
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trained while in the Marines to
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survive and to act spontaneously there
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was a window at the back of the Dome car
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and it was all cracked and I just jumped
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up on the seat smashed my head through
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the glass
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roof and shouted come on let's get
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out CLE and others jump from the
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car and I lo back and all of a sudden it
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ignited
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W Down Below in the lounge car Martin
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Pon also manages to
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escape but others aren't so lucky many
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are still trapped in the burning cars
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including passenger Jamie hate through
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for the coach had been crunched down me
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I'd lost my glasses I couldn't see I
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couldn't breathe and here it was the
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porter that had been behind the snack
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bar had opened up this this exit way and
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he had bed out through it and I took off
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out behind it
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too step out him he was in shock hey
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snap out of it hey buddy and pull it
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together here you know there's people in
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here and we got to do something about it
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but half blind without his glasses hate
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goes back inside trying to help others
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out of the
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wreck 413 here dispatcher back in the
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Caboose Smith is talking to the freight
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train's dispatcher some 285 km away in
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Edmonton everything in the air we better
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get a doctor out here and some herb timy
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the assistant conductor on the passenger
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train can hear the conversation on his
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radio and breaks in Co all over the
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ditch and get an
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ambulance and there's a whole bunch of
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cars on fire you get that dispatcher we
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need the fire department here very badly
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some coaches are trapped with passengers
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inside they're
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burning I don't think the engineers live
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through this one it's a real
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mess okay that's right on the switch at
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Dale Hurst eh okay yes I'm going to walk
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up there and see if I can be of any
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assistance what was the signal at D
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Hurst when your head and called it
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pardon me what was that signal on that
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signal at Dale
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Hurst well well I was calling him for
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the signal at ders quite a few times but
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uh I I kept calling him and there was no
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answer well it should have been read on
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the panel well he must have ran it then
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dispatcher because I could not get a
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hold of him I tried and I tried
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okay I'll all
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right back at the head of the passenger
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train Jamie hay tries to save who he
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can are you
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okay I'm going to help
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you haate can hear the screams of men
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and women trapped in the flames and I
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can hear the
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women I had dinner with the night before
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screaming you know um
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Tove her
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baby Pate was not able to save the
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mother and her child They're Out Of
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Reach under
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deis that was uh that was
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difficult people who were trapped and
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couldn't get out
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screaming screaming like you've never
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heard
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[Applause]
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one guy knew that his wife was trapped
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and he went back in and died with
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her another woman in the carriage under
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where we were had most of a leg
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cutter James ha courageously decides to
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go back
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inside the fire is a scorching 660 de
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but hate tries to save one more life but
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there was a there was a chop right in
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front of me
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there and it was the chop I had had
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dinner with the night
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before and all of a sudden the Flames
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came and consumed
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them he just just sat up and rubbed his
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head
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and cuz there's nothing more we could do
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it for him
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anybody in front of me and that coach
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was
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dead for whatever the reasons it wasn't
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my time to go then for whatever the
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reasons Wayne Smith is devastated he
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can't reach his two friends at the front
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of the freight train and he can't
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understand what happened to cause such
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an enormous
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disaster in western Canada a freight
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train has smashed headon into a
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passenger train carrying more than a 100
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people in the minutes after the
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Collision survivors are dragging
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themselves from the burning wreckage
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While others are still trapped
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inside one of the
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girls that had been in the car in the
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morning and I looked at her and I said
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I'm sarry to tell you
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you're he had no choice but to tell a
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what happened to her friend in the
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train you're
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uh uh your friend was in the car
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here she died trapped in the burning
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debris I felt like the worst person in
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the world cuz I had to tell her if I
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could have taken back that one second in
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time to not tell her you
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[Music]
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know
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[Music]
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Royal Canadian Mounted Police Constable
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Mark Lenell is one of the first to
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arrive on the scene I was T there was a
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train derailment not a train crash I
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mean there's a double
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whammy the RCMP officer came he could
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hardly speak his mouth dropped open and
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he said I can't believe what I'm
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witnessing it's a horrifying scene
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pictures taken shortly after the crash
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show utter
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Devastation I mean I was just
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flasting I just couldn't believe it and
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instant that's quite the thing to
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[Music]
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see the Collision is 18 km from the town
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of H Hinton it takes emergency crews
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some 45 minutes to get there I was in
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the Marines in England for 14 years I'd
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seen a lot of a lot
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of disasters man-made disasters
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terrorist bombs and I thought I'd seen
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it all there is a lot of blunt FL trauma
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of course flying glass
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Burns and then I
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saw what appeared to be two bodies in
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the restaurant car hugging each other so
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we found out later that was a man and
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wife and this was one heck of a
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shock as Lenell is escorting survivors
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away from the site he sees a lone man
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with a radio coming down the track how's
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the uh how's the front end doing uh
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what's your name it's Smith is about to
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learn that his colleagues aboard his
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train are dead like what happened like
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did they make contact with we're still
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under investigation and there's not a
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lot I can tell you right now okay so
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they still might be I mean I'm really
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sorry he' be distraught and shaken and
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his train is wrecked and all these
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people
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[Music]
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dead
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The Hinton train disaster is the worst
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Railway accident to strike Canada in 35
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years more than $30 million in property
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are destroyed 23 people are dead and 71
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others are severely
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[Music]
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injured
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Wayne Smith is the only surviving crew
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member of the CN train the only man who
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may be able to explain how an 11 million
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kilo freighter plowed head first into an
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oncoming passenger
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train what he knows could be critical to
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unraveling the cause of the
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disaster 2 days after the Collision the
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Alberta Government establishes an
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official Commission of
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inquiry and The Honorable Mr Justice
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Renee P fo leads the
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investigation judge fo is a Justice of
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the Alberta Court of Appeal it was uh
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reasonably simple I mean what caused the
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accident uh but it turned out to be a
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00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,240
lot more complicated than that because
564
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,320
uh there were no easy answers as to what
565
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,799
caused the
566
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,880
accident Freight and passenger trains
567
00:28:46,799 --> 00:28:52,000
routinely use the same tracks without
568
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:54,120
incident what was different this time
569
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:56,720
over the next 11 months foise calls on
570
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:58,519
150 Witnesses and Specialists to help
571
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,960
him find out agree with you I think what
572
00:28:58,519 --> 00:29:04,519
has most surprised me is the the complex
573
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:06,720
procedures the equipment U the overall
574
00:29:04,519 --> 00:29:08,760
complexity that uh that we have to look
575
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:11,080
at in running a railroad and what goes
576
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:13,720
on in running a railroad while conductor
577
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:16,519
Smith recovers from the accident foisey
578
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,799
gets to work he begins by studying the
579
00:29:16,519 --> 00:29:19,440
signals that should have told the
580
00:29:17,799 --> 00:29:22,159
freight train to
581
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:24,200
stop if they weren't working the crew on
582
00:29:22,159 --> 00:29:26,320
413 may not have thought they needed to
583
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,200
slow
584
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:32,720
down
585
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:37,039
GN did a uh very in-depth test on the
586
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:42,440
signal system and it was determined that
587
00:29:37,039 --> 00:29:45,440
um it was performing U properly we went
588
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:48,120
further we uh hired our own independent
589
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:50,519
experts to test the
590
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,320
system the switches which operate the
591
00:29:50,519 --> 00:29:55,200
signal lights were frozen in position
592
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:57,960
after the accident electrical engineer
593
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,919
Eugene couch was hired to read them
594
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,760
perhaps a mechanical fault in the system
595
00:29:59,919 --> 00:30:04,039
had turned them green telling the
596
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:07,399
freight train to speed
597
00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:10,279
through a fault does not give a positive
598
00:30:07,399 --> 00:30:12,760
green light to any any situation so if
599
00:30:10,279 --> 00:30:15,039
if there was a fault in any controls
600
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,519
part of the system it would have forced
601
00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:18,559
everything to go to Red which meant the
602
00:30:16,519 --> 00:30:20,320
passenger train would have stopped and
603
00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:22,840
would have forced the freight train to
604
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,960
stop if a mechanical problem wasn't the
605
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:27,440
cause there was a more chilling
606
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:29,720
possibility perhaps someone set the fr
607
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:32,320
train lights to Green on purpose causing
608
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:34,360
the two trains to collide couch
609
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,440
dismissed that idea too to do that would
610
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,519
mean that somebody would have to
611
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,120
actually go there and really maliciously
612
00:30:37,519 --> 00:30:42,679
you know change things and there was no
613
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:45,240
sign of any tampering on on any
614
00:30:42,679 --> 00:30:48,440
mechanisms basically our conclusion we
615
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:51,559
felt that the system was sound and was
616
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:53,960
safe fo believes the lights were red but
617
00:30:51,559 --> 00:30:55,960
the freight train ignored them perhaps
618
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,120
another mechanical fault was behind the
619
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,919
crash well I was calling him for the
620
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,799
signal of D question in his statement
621
00:30:59,919 --> 00:31:03,440
after the crash conductor Wayne Smith
622
00:31:01,799 --> 00:31:04,960
told Royal Canadian Mounted Police
623
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,039
Officers that something was wrong with
624
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:10,600
his radio that morning because I could
625
00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:12,919
not get a hold of him I tried and I
626
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,720
tried maybe the front of the train was
627
00:31:12,919 --> 00:31:16,760
having mechanical problems but they
628
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:19,639
weren't able to get in contact with
629
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,120
Smith Joseph abar examines the portable
630
00:31:19,639 --> 00:31:24,519
radios the crew
631
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:26,880
used the first test was with the radio
632
00:31:24,519 --> 00:31:29,200
that was on the train that was in the
633
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:31,200
accident since that hinted the radio
634
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,440
performed to
635
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,240
specification but even if the radios
636
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:38,080
themselves were working there could be
637
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,799
another problem many CN employees claim
638
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,840
there are places along the tracks where
639
00:31:39,799 --> 00:31:44,399
radio communication is impossible
640
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:46,399
so-called dead spots and it's not a dead
641
00:31:44,399 --> 00:31:48,760
spot that's there 365 days out of the
642
00:31:46,399 --> 00:31:51,480
year the possibility was also examined
643
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:53,320
and dismissed sometimes you can't some
644
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:56,720
radios are stronger some are
645
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:58,360
weaker the second test done as far as
646
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,880
communication ation between the
647
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:03,639
locomotive and the Caboose was done with
648
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:06,840
the same type of radio as was used at
649
00:32:03,639 --> 00:32:06,840
the time the accident took
650
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:14,159
place field test with that type of radio
651
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:16,039
for had satisfactory performers the
652
00:32:14,159 --> 00:32:19,559
evidence was uh pretty clear and we
653
00:32:16,039 --> 00:32:19,559
concluded that that there were no dead
654
00:32:20,679 --> 00:32:26,159
spots one other possible explanation is
655
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:28,679
examined natural phenomena like the
656
00:32:26,159 --> 00:32:32,039
Northern Lights can also affect radio
657
00:32:28,679 --> 00:32:35,399
performance um got to measure a medicine
658
00:32:32,039 --> 00:32:38,120
L Northern Lights can build up very high
659
00:32:35,399 --> 00:32:40,399
currents and Communications lines
660
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:43,639
anything even hooked up to a radio could
661
00:32:40,399 --> 00:32:47,200
pick it up my determination of it was
662
00:32:43,639 --> 00:32:47,200
that uh they were not a
663
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:53,360
factor if the signals were red and the
664
00:32:50,159 --> 00:32:56,360
radios were working why had the train
665
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:58,240
crashed explain to me how fo examines an
666
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,919
ingenious pie piece of technology the
667
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,320
HotBox
668
00:32:59,919 --> 00:33:04,159
detector sitting beside the track
669
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,760
hotboxes monitor the temperature of a
670
00:33:04,159 --> 00:33:10,039
train's wheels and axles they also
671
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:13,000
record the speed of trains as they Roar
672
00:33:10,039 --> 00:33:17,240
by when fo and his advisers examine the
673
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:17,240
HotBox data they make a telling
674
00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:23,080
Discovery when the front of the freight
675
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,120
train passed the HotBox detector just
676
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:27,919
after Harwin it was traveling a little
677
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,840
over 60 km an hour
678
00:33:27,919 --> 00:33:32,760
but by the time the Caboose passed it
679
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:35,240
the train was going more than 74 km an
680
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:38,480
hour despite the signals telling it to
681
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:41,279
slow down the train was speeding
682
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:44,080
up for the last 5 miles we're able to
683
00:33:41,279 --> 00:33:48,639
determine that the uh freight train was
684
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:51,600
going uh at least 59 M an hour perhaps
685
00:33:48,639 --> 00:33:53,720
as high as 60 or 61 there were no break
686
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:56,600
applications before the crash as
687
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:59,480
well the crew let the train travel too
688
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:01,840
fast they did not heed signals to stop
689
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:05,519
and they never applied the brakes it all
690
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,519
points to a train that was out of
691
00:34:05,679 --> 00:34:12,119
control why there were no Brak
692
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:12,119
applications is difficult to
693
00:34:13,240 --> 00:34:16,760
understand oh my
694
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,960
god with mechanical problems ruled out
695
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:25,480
fo begins to examine the crew of the
696
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:27,639
freight train perhaps there's something
697
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,800
about engineer Jack Hudson who was in
698
00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:31,560
charge of the train that could explain
699
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:34,119
what happened that
700
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,720
day as foise begins sifting through
701
00:34:34,119 --> 00:34:37,839
Hudson's medical records and
702
00:34:35,720 --> 00:34:40,409
interviewing his family he makes a
703
00:34:37,839 --> 00:34:42,159
disturbing
704
00:34:40,409 --> 00:34:44,599
[Music]
705
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:47,919
Discovery a train Collision in western
706
00:34:44,599 --> 00:34:48,679
Canada has killed 23 people another 71
707
00:34:47,919 --> 00:34:51,200
are
708
00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:53,520
injured the man leading the inquiry into
709
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:56,200
the disaster has ruled out mechanical
710
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:58,720
problems judge Renee foise now takes a
711
00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:01,520
closer look at Jack Hudson the 16-year
712
00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:04,200
veteran who was driving the freight
713
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:06,359
train when fo and the commission review
714
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:09,320
Hudson's medical files they're shocked
715
00:35:06,359 --> 00:35:13,800
by what they discover Mr Hudson was a
716
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:17,200
was a man who who was sick he was an
717
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:19,680
alcoholic he had um high blood pressure
718
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:24,200
which was a problematic he had
719
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:26,880
diabetes he had a pancreatic attack uh
720
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:29,960
the summer before this accident he had
721
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:32,560
had to wear a colostomy for a number of
722
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,400
months foise wonders if this long list
723
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:37,920
of illnesses could somehow have led to
724
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:39,880
the train crash the engineer Jack Hudson
725
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:42,280
uh had been killed outright in the crash
726
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,760
and had severe injuries so we couldn't
727
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,599
determine whether there'd been a
728
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,440
catastrophic medical event whether he'd
729
00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:50,280
had a heart attack for example or a
730
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:52,000
stroke which had incapacitated him but
731
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,680
we were able to do toxicology and there
732
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,280
was no alcohol or drugs present he did
733
00:35:54,680 --> 00:36:00,839
have a lot of health problems and he had
734
00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:02,720
some problems at home uh that these
735
00:36:00,839 --> 00:36:05,240
problems at home appeared to be on the
736
00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:07,040
menend and uh that he was not the kind
737
00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:09,960
of man who if he was going to commit
738
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:12,760
suicide would take uh 23 people with him
739
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:15,480
and injure another 70 and some of them
740
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:17,640
very very seriously so we discounted
741
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:21,000
that possibility of a
742
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:22,760
suicide if it wasn't suicide if Hudson
743
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:25,200
did have a stroke or heart attack at the
744
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:27,480
controls why didn't his Breakman Mark
745
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:30,960
Edwards take any action
746
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:34,440
investigators come up with one plausible
747
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:36,920
answer did you get some rest Not much
748
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,030
got a touch the flu could use a full
749
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,240
night's
750
00:36:38,030 --> 00:36:42,079
[Music]
751
00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:44,000
sleep perhaps Edwards had been asleep on
752
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:47,079
the
753
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:49,079
job Dr Allison's Smiley is an expert on
754
00:36:47,079 --> 00:36:51,839
sleep and
755
00:36:49,079 --> 00:36:54,319
fatigue Jack Hudson he had had at the
756
00:36:51,839 --> 00:36:56,839
very most before he went on duty that
757
00:36:54,319 --> 00:36:58,920
day 3 and 1 half hours of sleep and that
758
00:36:56,839 --> 00:37:01,319
is if he slept from the last moment
759
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:05,839
somebody saw him till the moment
760
00:37:01,319 --> 00:37:05,839
somebody next saw him again 3 and 1 half
761
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:12,319
hours braan said he had a touch of the
762
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:16,599
flu and he'd had 5 hours sleep the night
763
00:37:12,319 --> 00:37:19,480
before Wayne Smith uh similarly had had
764
00:37:16,599 --> 00:37:22,000
uh insufficient sleep about 5 hours
765
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,000
before the
766
00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:26,319
Collision as the freight train passed
767
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,280
the signals telling it to stop the
768
00:37:26,319 --> 00:37:31,280
entire enire crew may have been fast
769
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:33,440
asleep you could work at any time of the
770
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:36,000
day so one day you might start at 4:00
771
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:38,240
in the morning uh the next day you start
772
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:40,520
uh at 2: in the afternoon their hours
773
00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:43,800
were so erratic they were continually in
774
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:48,160
a jet lag State because their physiology
775
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:51,240
was never sort of fully adjusted to uh
776
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:53,920
any particular working
777
00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:56,599
hours when it comes to staying alert
778
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:58,400
train Engineers face many challenges in
779
00:37:56,599 --> 00:38:02,319
including long rides up and down the
780
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:07,599
same stretch of track the tracks going
781
00:38:02,319 --> 00:38:11,359
by one after the other it's a very
782
00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:15,119
soporific situation to work in and easy
783
00:38:11,359 --> 00:38:18,680
to see how somebody no matter how
784
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:18,680
motivated could fall
785
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,880
asleep at the time trains were equipped
786
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,880
with safety devices that would
787
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:27,319
automatically stop a train if the engine
788
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:29,480
man died or fell asleep the so-called
789
00:38:27,319 --> 00:38:32,359
Dead Man's
790
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:35,280
pedal basically the engineer is supposed
791
00:38:32,359 --> 00:38:37,680
to keep his foot on the pedal and while
792
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:40,520
he's his foot is on the pedal the train
793
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:43,440
won't stop if that pedal isn't
794
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:46,400
depressed uh then it will after a number
795
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:48,920
of seconds give a warning which is uh
796
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:51,720
quite Audible and if nothing happens
797
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:53,359
then it will stop the train but fo
798
00:38:51,720 --> 00:38:55,160
discovers that for many train men
799
00:38:53,359 --> 00:38:57,520
disabling the Dead Man's pedal is
800
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:59,839
standard practice one of the excuses
801
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:02,880
that was given by the the engineers is
802
00:38:59,839 --> 00:39:05,079
that to go long distances having to keep
803
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:09,160
your foot on that pedal was very
804
00:39:05,079 --> 00:39:11,480
uncomfortable and uh so that they would
805
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:13,240
sometimes uh put something on the pedal
806
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,079
a lunge box or something heavy enough to
807
00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:18,319
keep it depressed so that they could
808
00:39:15,079 --> 00:39:20,280
stretch their legs unfortunately uh what
809
00:39:18,319 --> 00:39:24,640
was happening this pedal was being
810
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,640
depressed for long long periods of
811
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:29,200
time but even even if Edwards and Hudson
812
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,240
had fallen asleep at the front of the
813
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,880
train and the dead man's pedal was
814
00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:36,280
rigged conductor Wayne Smith at the back
815
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:39,000
could still have prevented the
816
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:41,839
disaster almost two months into the Foy
817
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:43,640
inquiry Smith takes the stand doctors
818
00:39:41,839 --> 00:39:46,040
had kept him from testifying earlier
819
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:48,640
saying he was too traumatized by the
820
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:50,119
accident now for the first time
821
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,440
investigators will hear Smith
822
00:39:50,119 --> 00:39:55,079
reconstruct events on board his train in
823
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,720
the moments leading up to the disaster I
824
00:39:55,079 --> 00:39:59,280
was sitting looking out the back back of
825
00:39:56,720 --> 00:40:00,680
the train from my desk when we uh passed
826
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:03,560
mboard
827
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:06,440
169 that's the
828
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:08,400
uh that's the landmark that I used to
829
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,000
initiate a call to the engineer to ask
830
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,359
for the display at the Dale Hurst
831
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,359
approach
832
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:18,520
signal head end to 413 what indication
833
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:22,000
do you have at the Dale Hurst approach
834
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,000
signal 1703
835
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,560
over the front end of the train is
836
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,839
supposed to respond letting Smith know
837
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,680
that they've seen the signal lights
838
00:40:27,839 --> 00:40:31,960
telling them to slow down head of 413
839
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can you hear me
840
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:38,160
over I I probably called him three or
841
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:40,880
four times I uh I didn't get a response
842
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,960
on my gray radio there was uh there was
843
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:47,400
something wrong with it what's the
844
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:47,400
indication at signal 1703
845
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:52,960
over it's a surprising piece of
846
00:40:50,359 --> 00:40:55,319
testimony fo already knows the radios
847
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:57,240
were working
848
00:40:55,319 --> 00:40:59,079
fine
849
00:40:57,240 --> 00:41:00,920
when Smith is asked how fast he thought
850
00:40:59,079 --> 00:41:02,560
the train was going before the Collision
851
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:05,079
fo gets another
852
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:07,960
surprise I felt the front end give a
853
00:41:05,079 --> 00:41:10,599
light break application on the Caboose
854
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:13,640
uh coming around the curve I felt we
855
00:41:10,599 --> 00:41:16,480
were doing a track speed of about 50 mph
856
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:18,560
or less but according to the HotBox
857
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:21,400
detectors the train was traveling almost
858
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:23,720
16 km an hour over track speed and there
859
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:27,319
was never any application of the
860
00:41:23,720 --> 00:41:30,880
brakes I went to my red radio
861
00:41:27,319 --> 00:41:33,359
and I tried to get a hold of them on
862
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:35,680
it Jack how's the Dale Hurst approach
863
00:41:33,359 --> 00:41:38,359
signal
864
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:40,359
1703 I was calling him on channel one
865
00:41:38,359 --> 00:41:43,359
three or four times and there was no
866
00:41:40,359 --> 00:41:44,400
answer so I tried to get a hold of them
867
00:41:43,359 --> 00:41:46,760
on different
868
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:49,440
channels but once again Smith's
869
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:51,160
testimony doesn't add up fo has heard
870
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:54,200
from other train men who were monitoring
871
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:56,800
their radios in the area that day no one
872
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:58,440
heard Smith call
873
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,200
Smith says he was still trying to
874
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,520
contact Hudson when the end of the train
875
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:06,160
raced past signals telling it to slow
876
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:07,960
down Jack as an experienced trainman
877
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:10,040
Smith knows that the next set of lights
878
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:12,520
will likely be a triple red telling the
879
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,520
train to
880
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:18,280
stop he was getting no answer and the
881
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:20,800
train wasn't slowing down an emergency
882
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:22,680
Brak cord was in Easy reach but Smith
883
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:25,440
never pulled
884
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:27,760
it Jack are you there with Hudson
885
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:31,280
mysteriously silent Smith says he does
886
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:35,920
nothing but continue to call the front
887
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:37,480
end front end Jack come in why in the
888
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:41,160
circumstances that you've described did
889
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:43,359
you not pull the brake I I felt the
890
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:46,400
engineer had the train under
891
00:42:43,359 --> 00:42:48,280
control I felt he in fact was doing what
892
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,079
was necessary to control the train at
893
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,800
that
894
00:42:50,079 --> 00:42:55,160
point I never felt at any point in time
895
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:57,640
that I should pull the emergency
896
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:59,520
break at that time I didn't think that
897
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,440
anything was wrong that's the point I
898
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,800
make Mr Smith that when there's a
899
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,480
problem with the radio you've been
900
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:07,079
trained over the years to observe the
901
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:09,599
signals and it would have been the last
902
00:43:07,079 --> 00:43:11,359
thing I would have done he didn't pull
903
00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:13,720
the brake he didn't pull the air because
904
00:43:11,359 --> 00:43:16,480
he felt that it hadn't reached that
905
00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:18,680
point U basically that was his evidence
906
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:23,079
and I had a lot of difficulty with that
907
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:25,359
because uh if if it uh if that point
908
00:43:23,079 --> 00:43:27,920
hadn't been reached when was it going to
909
00:43:25,359 --> 00:43:31,079
be reached if
910
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:34,240
Smith's contradictory testimony is
911
00:43:31,079 --> 00:43:37,359
complete judge fo is now ready to close
912
00:43:34,240 --> 00:43:40,680
his case and lay the blame on those
913
00:43:37,359 --> 00:43:40,680
responsible for the
914
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:47,200
[Music]
915
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:49,599
disaster the inquiry into one of the
916
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:52,280
deadliest train crashes in Canada is
917
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complete 23 people were killed when a
918
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:58,079
freight train crashed headon into a
919
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:58,079
passenger train near Hinton Alberta
920
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:03,640
Chief investigator Renee fo has explored
921
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:06,559
every angle from technical malfunction
922
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:09,640
to human error he's now ready to deliver
923
00:44:06,559 --> 00:44:14,079
his report on what went wrong that
924
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:16,680
day in his 205 page report fo Parcels
925
00:44:14,079 --> 00:44:19,040
out the blame naming all the key
926
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:21,520
offenders fo writes that the trains
927
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:23,760
engineer Jack Hudson failed to observe
928
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,440
and Obey light signals commanding him to
929
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:28,000
stop his train before it entered the
930
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,000
single track
931
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:34,119
back if Hudson was unable to do his job
932
00:44:32,079 --> 00:44:36,319
Breakman Mark Edwards failed to
933
00:44:34,119 --> 00:44:38,119
intervene he also ignored the light
934
00:44:36,319 --> 00:44:39,760
signals and didn't break the train
935
00:44:38,119 --> 00:44:42,520
before it entered the single
936
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:45,040
track conductor Wayne Smith was guilty
937
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:47,000
too he had failed to follow operating
938
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,520
rules and pull the emergency break when
939
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:51,000
he couldn't contact the two men at the
940
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,000
front of the
941
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:56,119
train in a statement to police he had
942
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,480
even suggested that he thought thought
943
00:44:56,119 --> 00:44:59,960
they were sleeping said that my head end
944
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,000
was
945
00:44:59,960 --> 00:45:04,040
asleep do you recall making that
946
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:06,839
responser yes I
947
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:09,000
do with so many contradictions in his
948
00:45:06,839 --> 00:45:11,280
testimony fo rules that the conductor's
949
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:15,319
evidence is unreliable I wasn't sure
950
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:18,880
what I what what had happened and
951
00:45:15,319 --> 00:45:24,200
um I went to my back desk I jumped on
952
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:26,119
from the Cupa and uh ran
953
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:28,400
for it seemed like we were just just
954
00:45:26,119 --> 00:45:31,640
keep going there was no immediate
955
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,640
stopping the Caboose kept
956
00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:37,079
sliding instead Foy emphasizes that
957
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:39,240
Smith like Edwards and Hudson was
958
00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:42,140
dangerously tired that morning I just
959
00:45:39,240 --> 00:45:45,250
wanted to get home actually at the
960
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[Music]
961
00:45:45,720 --> 00:45:51,319
time but the crew aren't the only ones
962
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,319
Foy blames for the
963
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:56,280
accident according to the Foy report
964
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,800
Jack Hudson May well have had a stroke
965
00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:00,800
or heart attack before the Collision but
966
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:03,760
CN management had known about Hudson's
967
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:06,040
medical record for years he managed to
968
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:08,800
accumulate I think it was 40 or 50
969
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:11,800
demerits and at 60 you're
970
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:13,880
fired but after he got to that
971
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,640
level uh there were some other
972
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:18,280
infractions which weren't
973
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:20,520
recorded foise also calls attention to
974
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,720
the rules that were routinely ignored
975
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:24,800
such as rigging the Dead Man's pedal and
976
00:46:22,720 --> 00:46:27,359
taking the train on the
977
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:29,680
Fly the conclusion we came to is that
978
00:46:27,359 --> 00:46:30,640
there was a lot to be desired on the
979
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,280
part of
980
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,720
Cen um and that yes there was certainly
981
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,359
some
982
00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:40,880
laxness uh and some complacency when it
983
00:46:37,359 --> 00:46:42,400
came to these areas uh I'll get a
984
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,599
measure at Medicine Lodge here I haven't
985
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:47,599
had a chance yet oh that's uh you got
986
00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:49,599
pretty well all grein cars eh yeah I
987
00:46:47,599 --> 00:46:52,319
think so there is a lesson to be learned
988
00:46:49,599 --> 00:46:55,839
here it's that when you have
989
00:46:52,319 --> 00:46:58,400
rules you obey the rules and you in
990
00:46:55,839 --> 00:47:01,000
Force the rules uh if it becomes too
991
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:03,319
much of a fraternity in of a buddy buddy
992
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:06,880
system it gets
993
00:47:03,319 --> 00:47:07,880
lack and problems occur and this tragedy
994
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:11,000
was one of
995
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:13,119
them Foy demands that CN improve its
996
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:15,200
safety equipment recommending that all
997
00:47:13,119 --> 00:47:17,640
trains be equipped with reset safety
998
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,640
control
999
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:23,160
technology these systems are much more
1000
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,839
complicated than a dead man's pedal if
1001
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:27,000
constant attention is not paid to the
1002
00:47:24,839 --> 00:47:29,240
train a alarm sound and the train
1003
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:31,640
eventually shuts
1004
00:47:29,240 --> 00:47:33,920
down it's equipment which has proved
1005
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:36,880
valuable several times since the
1006
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:39,800
disaster there was a study done uh with
1007
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:43,240
Cen 10 years after this accident they
1008
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:45,119
found something like 90% of the train
1009
00:47:43,240 --> 00:47:49,160
Engineers saying that they had been
1010
00:47:45,119 --> 00:47:52,760
woken by the alerting device at least
1011
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:54,480
once in response to fo's report CN rail
1012
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,079
creates one of the most sophisticated
1013
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,880
fatigue countermeasures program programs
1014
00:47:56,079 --> 00:48:02,480
in the world train men are no longer on
1015
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:05,599
call 7 days a week 24 hours a day
1016
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:07,559
napping is no longer FR upon rest houses
1017
00:48:05,599 --> 00:48:10,070
have been created and improved and
1018
00:48:07,559 --> 00:48:17,520
locomotive cabs made more
1019
00:48:10,070 --> 00:48:19,599
[Music]
1020
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:22,559
comfortable for the victims of the
1021
00:48:19,599 --> 00:48:25,920
Hinton disaster of 1986 changes to
1022
00:48:22,559 --> 00:48:28,640
Canadian railroading come too late I
1023
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:30,440
still remember the people that were
1024
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:32,040
killed in the accident and good friends
1025
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,800
I had on the
1026
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:38,200
Railroad and that's
1027
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:40,960
really it just father me it's now it's
1028
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:43,880
uh 20 years
1029
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:47,559
nearly and I'm still going
1030
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:50,079
strong very lucky I don't equate it to
1031
00:48:47,559 --> 00:48:52,799
luck no no that too much of a tragedy to
1032
00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:54,960
think about luck too much there's too
1033
00:48:52,799 --> 00:48:58,520
much hurt that happened inside of me it
1034
00:48:54,960 --> 00:49:00,799
took me quite a while to rebuild my my
1035
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:03,960
sanity again I got over it fairly
1036
00:49:00,799 --> 00:49:07,000
quickly and got on with a life there may
1037
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:10,880
be lots of other people who weren't as
1038
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:13,440
lucky you can be going along in life and
1039
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:16,240
then something come along and just kind
1040
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:19,200
of destroy your very Foundation or
1041
00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:19,200
shatter your very
1042
00:49:19,319 --> 00:49:26,839
foundation and through no fault of your
1043
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:28,400
own but life has a habit of doing that
1044
00:49:26,839 --> 00:49:32,040
but the other thing I can share with him
1045
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:34,240
is that you can recover from it there is
1046
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,240
a
1047
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,520
tomorrow
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