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What I'm most proud of
as attorney general
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is that we were willing to walk
into the buzz saw
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of some very powerful interests
and never back down.
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Look, I had a simple rule:
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I never asked if a case
was popular or unpopular,
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never asked
if it was big or small,
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hard or easy;
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I simply asked if it was
right or wrong.
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Man: I will never forget
that moment.
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Woman:
I was dumbfounded.
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Man:
I can't say I was sorry.
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♪ Start spreading the news... ♪
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Man: It was like,
"You've gotta be kidding."
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♪ I want to be a part of it... ♪
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( siren blares )
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♪ New York, New York... ♪
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Man: He was going to be
our first Jewish president.
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♪ These vagabond shoes... ♪
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Woman:
There was corporate corruption;
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greed had seemed to hit its peak;
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and he was fighting all of that.
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♪ Right through
the very heart of it ♪
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♪ New York, New York ♪
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♪ I want to wake up in a city ♪
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♪ That doesn't sleep ♪
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♪ To find I'm cream of the crop ♪
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♪ On top of the heap ♪
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♪ These little town blues ♪
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♪ Are melting away ♪
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♪ I'll make a brand-new ♪
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♪ Start of it... ♪
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Narrator: On the face of it,
the fall of Governor Spitzer
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was just another sex scandal.
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Was it a private matter?
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Or a public reckoning?
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♪ Oh New York... ♪
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Narrator:
And what of the timing?
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A few months
after his resignation,
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the reckless banks
Spitzer had policed
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brought the economic system
close to failure.
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♪ I'll make it anywhere ♪
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♪ New York... ♪
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Everyone agreed on one thing:
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no one expected him
to go down like he did.
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♪ New York. ♪
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It is to a certain extent
a very classic tale, perhaps,
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of an individual
who from the exterior
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appears to have been
captured by hubris;
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a sense of standing for virtues
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and, I think, working very hard
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to articulate and work
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towards establishing
rules and boundaries,
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but then, himself,
slipping and failing.
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And this goes back to the days
of Greek mythology.
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This is not...
It's not a new story.
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Hulbert Waldroup:
In New York, everyone...
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Everyone's like some sort
of an animal, you know?
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They're some sort of an animal.
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They're hungry
to make more money,
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hungry to get more sex,
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to date a prettier girl
or a richer guy.
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Just... just hungry, just greedy,
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just animals.
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This Chinese philosopher
said that
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human beings are a hybrid
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between animals and angels,
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that we're capable
of animalistic behavior.
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Consider sex and war.
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But we're capable of doing
beautiful things too, like art,
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music or making love, you know?
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What... I was just
contemplating that.
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I was like,
"Wow, I kinda dig that.
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We're half angel, half animal."
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Good afternoon.
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Over the past nine years...
Eight years as attorney general
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and one as governor...
I have tried to uphold
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a vision of progressive
politics that would
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rebuild New York and create
opportunity for all.
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We sought to bring
real change to New York,
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and that will continue.
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Today, I want to briefly address
a private matter.
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I have acted in a way
that violates my obligations
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to my family,
and that violates my, or any,
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sense of right and wrong.
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Narrator: Spitzer's wrong turn
surprised everyone,
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because he had a reputation
as Mr. Right.
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As Attorney General of New York
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he was known as
the Sheriff of Wall Street,
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someone determined
to take on powerful interests
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on behalf of those
who couldn't afford to.
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Lloyd Constantine:
This was a guy who understood
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that he had been a member
of the lucky-sperm club.
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He was really smart.
He was wealthy.
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So he had gotten
a lot of breaks in life,
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and he wanted to-to...
To use that,
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you know, to better the world.
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Narrator: Spitzer's father Bernard
was a self-made real-estate tycoon
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who sent his son
to an elite prep school,
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Princeton
and Harvard Law School,
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where he met his wife-to-be
Silda Wall.
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His father had pushed him
to succeed.
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We debated issues around
the dining-room table.
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And so I guess it was more
of a symposium
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than a touchy-feely environment.
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We were taught not to embrace
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a notion, a principle, a fact
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merely because somebody
had asserted it.
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Challenge them, push back...
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That was part
of the conversation.
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Narrator:
For a real-estate family,
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Monopoly takes on
a special edge.
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Sure, it's a game.
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But it's also a way for a father
to teach his son
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some lessons
about money and power.
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Look, I don't want the impression
to be that he wasn't...
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He was devoid of compassion,
but it is true
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he foreclosed on me
in a Monopoly game.
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Narrator: Bernard Spitzer
tricked his son into selling
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Boardwalk and Park Place
for cheap,
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then wiped him out when he landed
on a built-up Boardwalk.
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The lesson:
don't trust anyone.
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But I think really
what he was trying to do
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was teach me
how the market worked.
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And Monopoly's a fun game,
but I had overbuilt
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and overextended and he said,
"I'm sorry, that's it.
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There are consequences
and you've learned a lesson."
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Interviewer: What was
your response at the time?
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Oh, I cried.
I think I was about 10.
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I mean, I was a kid.
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It was... it was... it was no fun.
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I wanted to... I wanted
to be bailed out.
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Constantine: Bernie is a guy
who judges people.
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That's a tough thing for a kid.
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I do remember him watching
Eliot and me play tennis.
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And after one particular serve
and volley of mine, which I won,
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he gave me that victory sign,
and he said,
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"Yeah, that's exactly
what to do to him."
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Eliot's strategy is to stick
with his core game:
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hard shots, serve and volley.
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Spitzer:
But my reflexes are good.
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Yeah!
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I love to get in to net.
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Good shot.
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As I say, the game I used to have
keeps getting better.
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Narrator:
Eliot Spitzer's notion
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of public service was like
his tennis game:
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attack attack attack.
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Good morning,
and thank you for coming.
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Narrator: As attorney general,
Spitzer saw an opportunity
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to do more than enforce the law.
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He wanted to use the law
to change the way society worked.
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He sued coal-fire plants in Ohio
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for causing pollution in New York.
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He sued General Electric
for dumping
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poisonous waste
into the Hudson River.
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He uncovered fraud
in the pharmaceutical industry,
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where pill makers hid
the damage done by their drugs,
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fought for minimum wage
for deliverymen
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and forced upscale restaurants
to hire more women.
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He would take them all on,
because no one else would.
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Peter Elkind:
There's a reason why Eliot Spitzer
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became famous as New York's
attorney general.
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The job had been
a second-tier position.
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It had been focused on
regulating crooked car dealers.
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And Eliot Spitzer
focused on Wall Street,
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on the biggest guys around.
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And Spitzer's premise,
which was right,
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was that Wall Street
can't be left to regulate itself
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or terrible things will happen.
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When I assumed office,
which was January of 1999,
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we were in a period
where Wall Street
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and investment bankers were,
to use Tom Wolfe's
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great phrase,
masters of the universe.
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Narrator:
To protect the average citizen,
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Spitzer was willing to prosecute
bankers and CEOs
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like any other lawbreakers.
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Spitzer: In the course
of this investigation,
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my office developed evidence
indicating that analysts
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gave misleading advice
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that helped the brokerage's
investment banking clients,
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but harmed individual investors.
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When we first got into this,
everybody said,
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"Well, what's the state
attorney general's office
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in New York doing
going after this problem?
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Shouldn't this be the SEC?"
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And my response was,
"Yes, but they haven't.
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And if they haven't,
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and there are investors
being ripped off, we will do it."
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Narrator: Wall Street analysts
advise buyers
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on what stocks look good or bad.
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With the rise of the Internet,
analysts became superstars,
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because only they
seemed to understand
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how to value Internet companies.
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As stocks soared,
so did the value
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of analysts who knew
how to pick them.
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The more money they made,
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the more potential
there was for abuse.
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Henry Blodget
was a failed writer
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who stumbled into being
a top research analyst
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when, as a young stock picker,
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he predicted the rise
of Amazon.com.
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By 2001 he was working
for Merrill Lynch,
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making $12 million a year.
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When one of Merrill's customers
sued Blodget for phony research,
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Spitzer's team investigated him,
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using an arcane law
called the Martin Act
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to subpoena thousands
of documents and emails
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in search of fraud.
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As Spitzer's team pored
through Blodget's emails,
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they kept coming across
the term POS.
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They thought POS
was short for "positive,"
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for stocks Blodget wanted
customers to buy.
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But then they stumbled upon
Blodget's keyword chart.
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Blodget's emails were honest
and brutally downbeat.
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Meanwhile his official stock
ratings were mostly upbeat,
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urging customers to buy buy buy.
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Spitzer:
Mr. and Mrs. Smith,
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whose IRA or 401(k)
is being invested,
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they are the sacrificial lambs
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and being used to prop up
the stock
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so that the Merrill Lynches
of the world can then
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go to the companies and say,
"See what we're doing for you?
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Bring us your
investment banking business."
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It was fundamentally corrupt.
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Narrator:
It was insider's Monopoly,
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guided by a basic
fundamental principle.
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You don't go
south of 14th Street
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except for one reason:
to make money.
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( R&B music playing )
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The guys on the floor, all they
cared about was makin' money.
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That's what... that's...
That's the American way.
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Narrator: Jack Grubman
was a highly respected
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telecommunications analyst
for Salomon Smith Barney.
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♪ Close shooting
don't kill no birds... ♪
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He became famous
for pumping up AT&T's stock
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to please his boss Sandy Weill.
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Then Weill helped Grubman
get his twins
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into an exclusive preschool.
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Grubman's payday for research?
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$20 million a year,
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enough to buy a palace
on the Upper East Side.
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♪ Take food from
my family's mouth ♪
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♪ Before the money came... ♪
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Narrator:
Grubman's career ended
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when he relentlessly
pumped up the stock
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of a company called WorldCom,
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just before it went bankrupt.
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Do you regret, in hindsight,
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staying so bullish
on the company for so long?
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Nothing... look,
why are you harassing me
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- like this?
- I'm not harassing you.
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I'm just asking you questions
about the company that you cover.
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This caught you completely
by surprise, you say.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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- Thank you.
- Yeah.
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♪ Before the money ♪
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♪ Started rollin' in. ♪
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There was always this...
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Internally we called it
the come-to-Jesus moment,
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where we went to whoever it was
we were prepared to sue
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and/or, you know, go after, you
know, for doing something wrong
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and we'd say to 'em
in no uncertain terms,
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"Tell us why,
given this fact pattern,
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we would be wrong
to sue your ass."
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Spitzer:
Early on in the investigation,
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the Merrill Lynch lawyers,
they came into my office.
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They looked at me
and they said, "You're right,
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but we're not as bad
as our competitors."
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I was a prosecutor
for a lot of years.
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I never, you know,
heard a defendant
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stand up in court and say,
"Yeah, I robbed three people,
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but somebody over there robbed five,
so therefore I'm not bad."
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I said to Merrill Lynch... they wanted
to settle the case and pay some money
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and said, "We will pay
a big sum of money
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if you promise to keep
the information secret."
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And I said no.
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Because my job
as attorney general
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is to change the system
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so that it's fair
and will be honest.
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And if we seal the evidence
and you pay a check
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and we don't change the system,
I'm basically being bought off.
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My office has reached
an agreement that will help
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ensure the integrity
of investment advice
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on which investors often depend.
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Narrator: Blodget and Grubman
paid million-dollar fines
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and were banned from
the securities industry for life.
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But their firms bought
their permanent silence
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with handsome
severance packages.
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In exchange for Grubman's
silence on the details
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of his firm's behavior,
Salomon Smith Barney
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paid Grubman $30 million.
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The nation's best and brightest
were lured to Wall Street
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in search of fast fortunes.
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The money they made
flowed everywhere...
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Penthouses, yachts, golf clubs...
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And to the oldest sector
of the global economy
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ready for a new cash infusion.
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I have rich lovers.
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♪ Love for sale... ♪
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I don't go out with poor men.
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I've got no reason to do so.
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♪ Appetizing young love ♪
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♪ For sale... ♪
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I don't call prostitution
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and escorting selling your body.
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♪ Love for sale. ♪
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You don't sell, you rent.
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I love my bank account full.
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It's better than empty.
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♪ Sex for sugar,
sugar for sex ♪
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♪ Sex for sugar,
sugar for sex ♪
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♪ Sex for sugar,
sugar for sex ♪
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♪ Sex for sugar,
sugar for sex ♪
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♪ What you got, girl,
it's so unfair ♪
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♪ I like the way you move
so keep it right there ♪
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♪ Or you can do
what you wanna do ♪
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♪ I'm just glad
I am in front with you ♪
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♪ But I don't mind
being butt high ♪
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♪ 'Cause I'm-a touch you
where the sun don't shine... ♪
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Waldroup: There's a street in SoHo
where a lot of artists set up.
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I was selling
my paintings one day.
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And this charismatic fellow
comes along
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and he's got a beautiful
girl with him...
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This girlfriend
at the time, Natalia.
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Said, "This is the number-one
escort in New York City.
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I run New York's
number-one escort agency."
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I've never seen you naked.
You think your body's good enough?
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Waldroup:
"I want to buy the biggest,
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most expensive painting
you've ever done."
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He gives me his business card.
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I still have an old souvenir.
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♪ Electricity
was definitely there ♪
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♪ I got shocked
when I touched your hair... ♪
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"New York Confidential,
rocket fuel for winners."
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That's all it says.
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Narrator: In 2004,
New York Confidential was at its height,
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making millions by offering clients
"the girlfriend experience,"
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a few hours
with naughty playmates
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who looked like
college cheerleaders.
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I had $1500 in $100 bills
in my purse.
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- Oh God.
- I pulled it out.
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- Only 15?
- ( laughing )
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We started hanging out
even after I did the painting.
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And one day we're in
the back of a Town Car,
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and he says, "Hey,
grab the phone," you know.
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"Just talk to the guy,
and try to help him out.
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You know, he's probably
looking for a girl
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to spend the night with."
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I'm on the cell phone and...
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you know,
my adrenaline is going.
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And I'm like, okay, you know,
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"We have a brunette, a blonde
or do you like ethnic girls?"
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You know, I do a deal for,
I don't know, 3,000, 4,000.
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He says, "Great,
you just made 400 bucks
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from a five-minute phone call.
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I'll give you 10%.
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Why don't you just come to work
for me for a little while, you know?"
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Man: That Craigslist ad
pulled well, huh?
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Waldroup: That's where it all began,
where I started working for Jason.
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How do you know she's a no?
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We don't get that many
calls for Asians.
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One hot Asian is... is plenty.
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We need more blondes,
hot blondes.
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They might look good in person,
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but they got a shitty photographer,
you know?
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Hot blondes.
She's a definite yes.
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Waldroup:
When a businessman spends,
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say, $2,000 an hour,
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he wants to read the reviews,
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just like if you were to buy a car.
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You want to read the reviews.
How much mileage does it get?
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Does it have air conditioning,
four-wheel drive?
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What... what's
the difference between
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paying $1,000 an hour
for this young lady,
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when I can open up
the "Village Voice"
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or go on Craigslist
and I can pay $200
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for another young lady?
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You know.
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And I'd say, "Well, sir,
sure, you can...
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You can have a cheeseburger
or you can have lobster."
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You're gonna have
such a good time
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with one of New York
Confidential's girls
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that you're gonna go
to work Monday morning
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with a smile on your face.
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You're gonna make more money
for you and your family,
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and then you're gonna
call me up next week
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and you're gonna say, 'Herb,
who can you send me out today?"'
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Natalia:
You can make the assumption
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that they're not being sexually
satisfied in their marriage
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or there's baggage
or whatever's going on there.
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And then... you know,
what's their option?
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Do they get divorced?
Do they split up their family?
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Or do they seek, you know...
Do they go see an escort?
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Waldroup: One young lady
was a schoolteacher;
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another girl was a...
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She was an athlete trying
to make it to the Olympics.
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Actresses, singers, models.
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Natalia: Jason would give
his business card
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to every girl that he met.
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And half of them
would call and then
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a quarter of them
would start working.
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Some girls would
offer me cash... tips.
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Some girls offered me sex.
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I don't think I ever got a tip
or sex with Ashley, yeah.
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Narrator:
Ashley was Ashley Youmans,
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later Ashley Dupré,
who would become famous
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for having sex with Eliot Spitzer.
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As an escort, she got her start
at New York Confidential,
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where her working name
was Victoria.
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It was through
one of those straight pitches
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that Jason found Ashley.
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Waldroup: Jason recruited her
from the Gansevoort Hotel.
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Narrator: At the Gansevoort,
Ashley was a bottle girl
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trying to break
into the music business.
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She was just light.
She was just happiness.
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She was like a great
bubbly 19-year-old girl.
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♪ Oh it's something to see ♪
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♪ That's so pretty... ♪
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Waldroup:
She was a good American,
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New Jersey Italian girl.
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Natalia:
Guys loved her.
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She had great pheromones
or something, you know?
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Waldroup: Within three
or four weeks, you know,
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her rate was going up there
to 2,000 an hour...
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With a two-hour minimum.
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Natalia: Her reviews
were awesome as well.
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I think she got a...
She got something like
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12 consecutive 10/10 reviews.
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After we did our first
appointment together,
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I told Jason, I'm like,
"You gotta book this girl."
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First of all, she's great,
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but she also has
a perfect coochie.
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Narrator: Ashley's reign ended
when New York Confidential
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was raided by local police.
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No customers were arrested,
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but Hulbert was convicted
of promoting prostitution
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and sent to jail
for eight months.
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Ashley would move on to work
for another escort service.
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For every New Yorker
who's been ignored, left out,
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who's been told
"You can't fight City Hall"
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so many times
they've come to believe it,
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for every New Yorker
without a voice, listen:
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there's one strong enough
for all of us.
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( applause )
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Spitzer:
For most of our history
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we have turned a blind eye
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to the violations of duty
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on the part
of white-collar criminals.
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We can understand it.
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There is something viscerally
terrifying about street crime.
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And until you are safe
in your home,
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you worry a bit less
about what is often
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a bit more amorphous,
which is the nature
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of white-collar crime,
which is more subtle theft.
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Elkind:
Spitzer broke the mold
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of how you prosecute
a white-collar case.
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He went after it fast and hard,
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and he got things done
in a period of weeks or months
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that would take
the federal regulators years.
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He wanted to change the system.
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So he'd get the goods
on a company or on people
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and use it as leverage
to institute reform,
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to force the industry to change
the way it did business.
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A lot of people thought
that was outrageous.
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Narrator: Spitzer hired a team
of dedicated lawyers
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who were drawn to his mission.
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Eliot just wasn't afraid to stand up
to corporate bad guys.
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And, you know, I think
there was some appreciation
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for the fact that, you know,
he'd punch 'em in the nose
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if that's what was appropriate.
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The first day I came in,
Eliot said, "What's next?"
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And I said, "Well,
mutual funds, I think."
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Boy:
How much will I grow?
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How strong will I be
in five years?
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In 10 years?
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Where does my future start?
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Shh.
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Narrator: Mutual funds
were supposed to be a safe place
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for working people
to put their money.
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But there were rumors
that sophisticated investors
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were playing games
with those funds.
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Brown: I went off
and I started studying them,
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trying to figure out
how to get at this issue.
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While I was immersed in this,
we got a tip.
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( phone ringing )
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Noreen Harrington: I left very pathetic
voicemail messages.
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( phone beeps )
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You know,
reporting a crime is hard.
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00:23:18,731 --> 00:23:20,400
You have to earn
your credibility.
493
00:23:20,566 --> 00:23:23,569
You have... it feels like
you're being interrogated.
494
00:23:23,736 --> 00:23:27,281
Narrator: Noreen Harrington
had a strong financial background.
495
00:23:27,448 --> 00:23:29,617
After 11 years at Goldman Sachs,
496
00:23:29,784 --> 00:23:32,787
she ran the global fixed
income department at Barclays.
497
00:23:32,954 --> 00:23:34,914
Then she went to work
for Eddie Stern,
498
00:23:35,081 --> 00:23:38,960
the son of a well-known
pet-food billionaire.
499
00:23:39,127 --> 00:23:41,462
Eddie Stern's hedge fund,
Canary Capital,
500
00:23:41,629 --> 00:23:43,756
was producing
spectacular results
501
00:23:43,923 --> 00:23:46,259
at a time when
the stock market was tanking.
502
00:23:46,426 --> 00:23:48,261
The big profits,
said Harrington,
503
00:23:48,428 --> 00:23:51,097
came from manipulating
mutual funds.
504
00:23:51,264 --> 00:23:53,474
They were doing something
really egregious,
505
00:23:53,641 --> 00:23:55,226
which is late trading.
506
00:23:55,393 --> 00:23:58,020
( bell ringing )
507
00:23:58,187 --> 00:23:59,564
Narrator:
At the track,
508
00:23:59,730 --> 00:24:02,775
customers bet on horse races
before the race starts.
509
00:24:02,942 --> 00:24:05,403
But what if there were
a special club
510
00:24:05,570 --> 00:24:08,865
that allowed you to bet on races
after they were over?
511
00:24:09,031 --> 00:24:11,033
There was a club like that
on Wall Street
512
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,744
for trading mutual funds.
513
00:24:13,911 --> 00:24:16,038
Brown: Mutual funds
are only priced once a day,
514
00:24:16,205 --> 00:24:19,375
- right at 4:00.
- ( bell ringing )
515
00:24:19,542 --> 00:24:22,253
So during the day, you call in
and you buy a mutual fund,
516
00:24:22,420 --> 00:24:25,673
they'll say, "Fine, "we're gonna
fill your order at today's 4:00 price."
517
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,260
If you call in at 4:05,
they're supposed to say,
518
00:24:29,427 --> 00:24:33,055
"Fine, we'll fill your order
at tomorrow's 4:00 price."
519
00:24:33,222 --> 00:24:36,100
Narrator: But what if something
happened at, say, 4:05
520
00:24:36,267 --> 00:24:38,144
to make the fund more valuable?
521
00:24:38,311 --> 00:24:40,897
Brown: If you could go in
as an investor
522
00:24:41,063 --> 00:24:43,065
and call at 4:10,
having heard that news,
523
00:24:43,232 --> 00:24:46,027
go back and buy it at the 4:00 price,
you could just buy it,
524
00:24:46,194 --> 00:24:47,880
wait for it to go up
the next day and sell it
525
00:24:47,904 --> 00:24:49,864
and take some money out of it.
526
00:24:50,031 --> 00:24:52,617
In one case, they went to a bank
527
00:24:52,783 --> 00:24:57,580
and the bank put a computer
back-office terminal
528
00:24:57,747 --> 00:25:00,333
into Canary Capital,
Eddie Stern's fund.
529
00:25:00,500 --> 00:25:03,669
Eddie might enter 40 trades
530
00:25:03,836 --> 00:25:06,672
prior to 4:00.
531
00:25:06,839 --> 00:25:08,925
Now let's say it's 10:00 at night;
532
00:25:09,091 --> 00:25:11,219
they cancel the 30
that lost money
533
00:25:11,385 --> 00:25:13,679
and keep the 10 that made money.
534
00:25:13,846 --> 00:25:17,517
And so this was a bank,
535
00:25:17,683 --> 00:25:22,021
completely, you know,
working with one client
536
00:25:22,188 --> 00:25:25,399
to destroy the profits
537
00:25:25,566 --> 00:25:28,569
owed to all the people
in those funds.
538
00:25:30,613 --> 00:25:33,741
Narrator: The name of the bank
was Bank of America.
539
00:25:35,034 --> 00:25:39,038
We spent a lot of time saying
this... this can't be happening.
540
00:25:39,205 --> 00:25:42,250
I mean, no one would be so,
you know, so sleazy.
541
00:25:45,962 --> 00:25:47,882
Harrington: I remember
it was like 9:00 at night.
542
00:25:47,964 --> 00:25:48,965
And somebody said,
543
00:25:49,131 --> 00:25:51,068
"Wow, we just picked
these people off for 10 million."
544
00:25:51,092 --> 00:25:53,594
I'm thinking, "How do you trade
mutual funds at 9:00?"
545
00:25:53,761 --> 00:25:55,441
I mean, you know,
you're a 20-year veteran,
546
00:25:55,596 --> 00:25:57,723
but all of a sudden
you feel like a rookie.
547
00:25:57,890 --> 00:26:00,935
Narrator: When Stern was confronted
with the evidence against him,
548
00:26:01,102 --> 00:26:04,272
he cut a deal to cooperate
with Spitzer's investigation,
549
00:26:04,438 --> 00:26:07,650
which laid open the predatory
nature of Wall Street.
550
00:26:10,152 --> 00:26:12,446
Brown: You have some
expectation as an investor
551
00:26:12,613 --> 00:26:14,824
in the stock market,
that there are big big boys
552
00:26:14,991 --> 00:26:17,910
out there who probably have
better information than you,
553
00:26:18,077 --> 00:26:21,289
and it's precisely to get out of that
that you would go to mutual funds.
554
00:26:21,455 --> 00:26:24,333
And the idea that there
were some sharks
555
00:26:24,500 --> 00:26:27,837
in the tank with you,
with all these thousands of minnows,
556
00:26:28,004 --> 00:26:31,257
was really sort of...
Just really surprising.
557
00:26:31,424 --> 00:26:34,760
I sent out the first subpoena
at the end of June of '03.
558
00:26:34,927 --> 00:26:38,264
And on September 4th,
we announced a settlement.
559
00:26:38,431 --> 00:26:40,266
And what I'd like
you to do now...
560
00:26:40,433 --> 00:26:43,185
Harrington: Three months
after I finished speaking to them,
561
00:26:43,352 --> 00:26:46,856
for Eliot Spitzer and his staff
to have indictments,
562
00:26:47,023 --> 00:26:49,650
settlements,
was astounding to me.
563
00:26:49,817 --> 00:26:51,652
Today's announcement
is merely step one.
564
00:26:51,819 --> 00:26:54,864
One of the questions
I get asked a lot was,
565
00:26:55,031 --> 00:26:58,492
"Did you believe
you would never work again?"
566
00:26:58,659 --> 00:27:01,245
And I think about
that question a lot,
567
00:27:01,412 --> 00:27:05,291
because what you're saying
by asking that question is:
568
00:27:05,458 --> 00:27:09,879
by doing public service
and helping 95 million people
569
00:27:10,046 --> 00:27:14,550
and stopping a crime,
this industry wouldn't want you?
570
00:27:14,717 --> 00:27:17,511
( siren blaring )
571
00:27:20,306 --> 00:27:22,683
Narrator: While Spitzer stirred
popular rage at Wall Street,
572
00:27:22,850 --> 00:27:24,518
there were a few people
who were delighted
573
00:27:24,685 --> 00:27:26,687
to see the bankers
take home big paydays,
574
00:27:26,854 --> 00:27:30,232
as revealed in the actual cell phone
of one of the bookers
575
00:27:30,399 --> 00:27:33,444
of the escort service
called The Emperors Club.
576
00:27:36,030 --> 00:27:38,350
Woman: "I keep hearing about
all the raises on Wall Street.
577
00:27:38,407 --> 00:27:40,201
And usually that would
be good for us.
578
00:27:40,368 --> 00:27:44,872
Hmm, maybe things will pick up.
Take care, hon!"
579
00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:47,333
The lawyer-banker thing is true.
580
00:27:47,500 --> 00:27:49,460
There are quite a lot of them.
581
00:27:49,627 --> 00:27:51,629
But there are lots
of stereotypes, you know,
582
00:27:51,796 --> 00:27:55,216
that it's this crazy
drug-fueled sort of party scene.
583
00:27:55,383 --> 00:27:58,344
But generally, you know,
people are respectful.
584
00:27:58,511 --> 00:28:01,514
They just want to have
a nice time with someone.
585
00:28:01,681 --> 00:28:03,724
Many of my clients
are nicer to me
586
00:28:03,891 --> 00:28:07,436
than many many
of the dates I've been on.
587
00:28:07,603 --> 00:28:09,980
In fact,
588
00:28:10,147 --> 00:28:13,025
I've stopped dating
in the real world, you know?
589
00:28:13,192 --> 00:28:15,027
Partly because it
would be complicated
590
00:28:15,194 --> 00:28:17,947
and partly because
my standards lifted.
591
00:28:18,114 --> 00:28:20,950
Honestly, you know.
( laughs )
592
00:28:22,118 --> 00:28:24,346
Natalia: The pictures of Ashley
didn't surface right away.
593
00:28:24,370 --> 00:28:27,081
The Eliot Spitzer story broke,
and then all these media outlets
594
00:28:27,248 --> 00:28:28,833
were calling me
to do interviews.
595
00:28:28,999 --> 00:28:31,836
And so I did a few interviews
without even knowing that Ashley was...
596
00:28:32,002 --> 00:28:34,088
My Ashley was our Victoria
was Kristen
597
00:28:34,255 --> 00:28:36,966
was all these...
You know, who she was.
598
00:28:37,133 --> 00:28:41,011
Tonight Eliot Spitzer resigns
as Governor of New York.
599
00:28:41,178 --> 00:28:44,390
Where will he find comfort
in this difficult time?
600
00:28:44,557 --> 00:28:46,475
I was shocked
when it all happened.
601
00:28:46,642 --> 00:28:50,229
But then when I saw
Ashley's picture
602
00:28:50,396 --> 00:28:52,273
flashed on the news,
603
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,358
I was like, wait a second,
you know?
604
00:28:54,525 --> 00:28:56,318
I was like, "Oh my gosh!"
605
00:28:56,485 --> 00:28:57,570
I couldn't believe it.
606
00:28:57,737 --> 00:28:59,530
She fit the bill.
607
00:28:59,697 --> 00:29:02,366
♪ My fist to the sky... ♪
608
00:29:02,533 --> 00:29:04,219
Man: "The New York Times"
website identifies
609
00:29:04,243 --> 00:29:08,164
Governor Spitzer's mystery call girl
as Ashley Alexandra Dupré.
610
00:29:08,330 --> 00:29:09,890
Narrator: All over papers
and television
611
00:29:09,999 --> 00:29:12,251
she was called "Spitzer's Girl."
612
00:29:12,418 --> 00:29:14,503
Known as "Kristen"
at The Emperors Club,
613
00:29:14,670 --> 00:29:16,672
Ashley Dupré was determined
to take advantage
614
00:29:16,839 --> 00:29:18,632
of her sudden opportunity.
615
00:29:20,676 --> 00:29:24,597
Natalia: Clearly Ashley was trying
to make a name for herself.
616
00:29:24,764 --> 00:29:27,600
Narrator: After the scandal broke,
Ashley's MySpace page,
617
00:29:27,767 --> 00:29:29,935
with one of her songs
available for streaming,
618
00:29:30,102 --> 00:29:32,188
got over seven million hits.
619
00:29:32,354 --> 00:29:34,398
To help package her career,
she brought onboard
620
00:29:34,565 --> 00:29:39,069
two lawyers, a publicist,
and a management team.
621
00:29:39,236 --> 00:29:41,757
- ? So you better hurry up...?
- Narrator: Ashley's manager arranged
622
00:29:41,781 --> 00:29:44,074
for an interview
with Diane Sawyer.
623
00:29:44,241 --> 00:29:46,243
Everyone played their part.
624
00:29:46,410 --> 00:29:48,662
Ashley dressed up
as the good girl gone wrong,
625
00:29:48,829 --> 00:29:52,875
and Diane Sawyer played
the role of the scolding mom.
626
00:29:53,042 --> 00:29:55,878
You say "the work,"
627
00:29:56,045 --> 00:29:57,671
but you haven't said the words.
628
00:29:57,838 --> 00:30:00,841
- The work?
- Prostitution.
629
00:30:01,008 --> 00:30:03,010
Escort.
630
00:30:03,177 --> 00:30:05,012
Escort.
What's the difference?
631
00:30:05,179 --> 00:30:07,973
- Escort.
- What's the difference?
632
00:30:09,475 --> 00:30:12,228
She catered to
the stereotypes of hookers,
633
00:30:12,394 --> 00:30:15,147
which are, you know, "Poor me.
I had a troubled childhood.
634
00:30:15,314 --> 00:30:17,817
I made a mistake,"
which is such a load of crap.
635
00:30:17,983 --> 00:30:20,778
It's... I can't change the past.
636
00:30:20,945 --> 00:30:23,489
I can only try to take
what I've learned and...
637
00:30:23,656 --> 00:30:26,534
And apply that to my future.
638
00:30:27,827 --> 00:30:30,788
We are being paid
ridiculous amounts of money.
639
00:30:30,955 --> 00:30:34,083
None of these women are forced
to do this and they're not stupid.
640
00:30:34,250 --> 00:30:36,627
Many of the professional
prostitutes that I know
641
00:30:36,794 --> 00:30:39,755
are very smart women
who weren't abused.
642
00:30:39,922 --> 00:30:42,007
You know, don't have
a mental disorder.
643
00:30:42,174 --> 00:30:45,427
They just happen to believe
in this kind of work.
644
00:30:45,594 --> 00:30:48,889
Narrator:
So do their customers.
645
00:30:49,056 --> 00:30:51,308
The cell phone of the Booker
from The Emperors Club
646
00:30:51,475 --> 00:30:54,562
offered a glimpse of the club's
well-heeled client list:
647
00:30:54,728 --> 00:30:57,273
an Oscar winner, CEOs
648
00:30:57,439 --> 00:31:00,234
and high-powered
investment bankers.
649
00:31:01,610 --> 00:31:04,697
The club treated them
like emperors. And why not?
650
00:31:04,864 --> 00:31:06,949
They made more money than kings.
651
00:31:07,116 --> 00:31:10,119
They enjoyed having their way
with women and the world.
652
00:31:10,286 --> 00:31:12,746
So it came as no surprise
that they resented it
653
00:31:12,913 --> 00:31:16,208
when the New York Attorney
General started to cramp their style.
654
00:31:16,375 --> 00:31:18,586
Reporter: "The Economist"
magazine calls him
655
00:31:18,752 --> 00:31:21,297
"Wall Street's
scourger-in-chief."
656
00:31:21,463 --> 00:31:23,263
Reporter #2: He's gone
from complete anonymity
657
00:31:23,340 --> 00:31:27,845
to what "Fortune" magazine calls
"the most feared man on Wall Street."
658
00:31:28,012 --> 00:31:31,390
Spitzer has deputized himself
as the Sheriff of Wall Street
659
00:31:31,557 --> 00:31:33,976
and is leading the posse
for retribution,
660
00:31:34,143 --> 00:31:36,061
restitution and reform.
661
00:31:36,228 --> 00:31:39,523
Narrator: Spitzer appealed
to Democrats and Republicans.
662
00:31:39,690 --> 00:31:43,360
He was a law-and-order liberal
who wasn't afraid to punch back.
663
00:31:43,527 --> 00:31:44,807
When you go down to Wall Street,
664
00:31:44,945 --> 00:31:46,756
like when you walk
into a building on Wall Street,
665
00:31:46,780 --> 00:31:48,508
is it like turning
the light on in the kitchen
666
00:31:48,532 --> 00:31:50,372
and the roaches just scatter
everywhere you go?
667
00:31:50,492 --> 00:31:52,292
- Well, y'know...
- Are you a beam of light...
668
00:31:52,328 --> 00:31:55,372
It is... there was a day that I had
to walk into a hedge fund...
669
00:31:55,539 --> 00:31:57,124
Ken Langone:
What I was intrigued by...
670
00:31:57,291 --> 00:31:59,251
The number of people
that were terrified by him.
671
00:31:59,418 --> 00:32:01,670
I mean, they literally
were terrified
672
00:32:01,837 --> 00:32:03,797
at this guy coming after them.
673
00:32:09,970 --> 00:32:13,015
Spitzer: The issue of CEO comp
was something I had been trying
674
00:32:13,182 --> 00:32:14,767
to get people to take a look at.
675
00:32:14,934 --> 00:32:17,227
It was off the rails.
676
00:32:17,394 --> 00:32:19,647
♪ I'll take what I want ♪
677
00:32:21,273 --> 00:32:23,901
♪ I'm a bad go-getter, yeah ♪
678
00:32:24,068 --> 00:32:26,695
♪ Ha! Yes I am ♪
679
00:32:28,405 --> 00:32:31,659
♪ I'm never a loser ♪
680
00:32:31,825 --> 00:32:34,870
♪ And I'm never
a quitter, yeah... ♪
681
00:32:35,037 --> 00:32:37,498
Spitzer: The ratio of CEO comp
to the average worker's comp
682
00:32:37,665 --> 00:32:40,751
had gone from about 40 to 1
to about 550 to 1.
683
00:32:40,918 --> 00:32:43,796
CEOs began to just take
everything they could
684
00:32:43,963 --> 00:32:47,174
and ultimately that was going
to destroy our economy.
685
00:32:47,341 --> 00:32:49,760
Because instead of running
the companies to create
686
00:32:49,927 --> 00:32:51,887
long-term wealth
and long-term investment,
687
00:32:52,054 --> 00:32:53,472
all the games we've seen...
688
00:32:53,639 --> 00:32:55,557
Everything from backdating
of stock options
689
00:32:55,724 --> 00:32:58,060
to maximizing short-term profits
690
00:32:58,227 --> 00:33:00,813
without sufficient investment
for the long term...
691
00:33:00,980 --> 00:33:04,608
These are things that are cancers
inside the economy.
692
00:33:04,775 --> 00:33:08,278
♪ 'Cause I'll take
what I want, yeah, baby. ♪
693
00:33:08,445 --> 00:33:10,256
Narrator: One of the flashiest
executives was head
694
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,158
of the New York Stock Exchange:
Dick Grasso,
695
00:33:13,325 --> 00:33:16,078
who boasted owning 10 cars
and three homes.
696
00:33:16,245 --> 00:33:19,832
He traveled on private jets,
often flanked by armed bodyguards.
697
00:33:19,999 --> 00:33:23,794
His job was to regulate and market
the New York Stock Exchange.
698
00:33:23,961 --> 00:33:25,254
Nicknamed "Punky,"
699
00:33:25,421 --> 00:33:27,756
Grasso was a scrappy
college dropout
700
00:33:27,923 --> 00:33:30,259
who started on the floor
and worked his way up.
701
00:33:30,426 --> 00:33:32,678
There's a job opening
at the New York Stock Exchange.
702
00:33:32,845 --> 00:33:34,930
Chairman Dick Grasso
resigned yesterday
703
00:33:35,097 --> 00:33:37,641
over the fury raised
by his massive pay package.
704
00:33:37,808 --> 00:33:40,936
Narrator: Not only was Grasso paid
an average annual salary
705
00:33:41,103 --> 00:33:42,855
of $20 million,
706
00:33:43,022 --> 00:33:47,901
his retirement package
totaled nearly $140 million.
707
00:33:48,068 --> 00:33:51,739
After Grasso stepped down,
the new head of the Exchange
708
00:33:51,905 --> 00:33:54,116
brought the matter
to the attorney general.
709
00:33:54,283 --> 00:33:57,578
Spitzer: There's a statute in New York
that says the value
710
00:33:57,745 --> 00:34:01,206
of the paycheck that the head
of a not-for-profit receives
711
00:34:01,373 --> 00:34:05,002
must be commensurate with the value
of the services provided.
712
00:34:05,169 --> 00:34:07,296
I like Dick.
He's a decent guy.
713
00:34:07,463 --> 00:34:10,799
He didn't provide services
worth $139 million.
714
00:34:10,966 --> 00:34:13,260
Perhaps more perversely,
715
00:34:13,427 --> 00:34:16,055
the compensation
had been determined
716
00:34:16,221 --> 00:34:19,433
by the very people he was
supposed to be regulating.
717
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:24,271
I had the most respected
group of directors
718
00:34:24,438 --> 00:34:26,273
from the corporate
and financial world.
719
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,358
They exercised
their business judgment.
720
00:34:28,525 --> 00:34:32,029
They paid me what they believed
to be fair and reasonable,
721
00:34:32,196 --> 00:34:33,572
which I... I agree with.
722
00:34:33,739 --> 00:34:36,158
Narrator: Spitzer decided
not to go after
723
00:34:36,325 --> 00:34:38,285
the blue-chip
international board.
724
00:34:38,452 --> 00:34:40,662
Instead, he sued Grasso
and the head
725
00:34:40,829 --> 00:34:42,498
of the board's
compensation committee,
726
00:34:42,664 --> 00:34:43,916
Ken Langone.
727
00:34:44,083 --> 00:34:48,212
Langone would prove
to be a formidable foe.
728
00:34:48,378 --> 00:34:49,689
I've been rich
and I've been poor.
729
00:34:49,713 --> 00:34:52,424
Rich is better,
I can tell ya right now.
730
00:34:54,218 --> 00:34:56,637
Narrator: The son
of a Long Island plumber,
731
00:34:56,804 --> 00:34:59,056
Ken Langone had
cofounded Home Depot
732
00:34:59,223 --> 00:35:02,017
and amassed a fortune
of well over a billion dollars.
733
00:35:02,184 --> 00:35:05,270
A dedicated philanthropist,
Langone was not shy
734
00:35:05,437 --> 00:35:07,731
about paying people well.
735
00:35:07,898 --> 00:35:11,693
Langone: At the time we awarded
Dick these pay packages,
736
00:35:11,860 --> 00:35:15,197
I truly believed that Dick
earned every single penny,
737
00:35:15,364 --> 00:35:16,949
and more!
738
00:35:17,116 --> 00:35:20,619
Narrator: Spitzer demanded
that Grasso return $100 million.
739
00:35:20,786 --> 00:35:23,413
At the time, Langone told
"Fortune" magazine:
740
00:35:23,580 --> 00:35:26,083
"If Grasso gives back
a fucking nickel,
741
00:35:26,250 --> 00:35:28,043
I'll never talk to him again."
742
00:35:28,210 --> 00:35:30,129
Spitzer: He, as anybody
in that position would,
743
00:35:30,295 --> 00:35:32,172
took umbrage at it.
And he developed
744
00:35:32,339 --> 00:35:35,050
a rather strong
animus towards me.
745
00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:41,056
The day that I sat in this room
746
00:35:41,223 --> 00:35:43,976
and he went on television
747
00:35:44,143 --> 00:35:47,354
with that farce
press conference he had,
748
00:35:47,521 --> 00:35:51,233
announcing that he was
going after Dick Grasso and me
749
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,403
and all kinds of bad things
about me and...
750
00:35:54,570 --> 00:35:58,740
Eliot's theatrics.
751
00:35:58,907 --> 00:36:00,993
You can't pay the head
of a not-for-profit
752
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,997
that much money...
Close to $200 million.
753
00:36:05,164 --> 00:36:07,583
It's simply too much.
It's not reasonable.
754
00:36:07,749 --> 00:36:09,585
It's not right.
It violates the law.
755
00:36:09,751 --> 00:36:12,796
Langone: It was headlines,
it was glorious headlines!
756
00:36:12,963 --> 00:36:14,965
All these captains of industry!
757
00:36:15,132 --> 00:36:16,758
Hey, this is big game.
758
00:36:16,925 --> 00:36:18,802
This is going after elephants.
759
00:36:18,969 --> 00:36:22,222
Spitzer: He became
a very vociferous critic of mine.
760
00:36:22,389 --> 00:36:23,891
And that's all fair game.
761
00:36:24,057 --> 00:36:26,727
In my view we were right
and he was wrong.
762
00:36:26,894 --> 00:36:29,438
But again it was something
he felt deeply about.
763
00:36:31,356 --> 00:36:34,776
Narrator: In 2004 at the Democratic
National Convention
764
00:36:34,943 --> 00:36:36,987
Spitzer took up the issue
with Jack Welch,
765
00:36:37,154 --> 00:36:39,948
the former CEO
of General Electric.
766
00:36:40,115 --> 00:36:42,159
Langone: Jack and I are
very good friends.
767
00:36:42,326 --> 00:36:45,287
Spitzer came up
to him with froth
768
00:36:45,454 --> 00:36:48,373
coming out of the sides
of his mouth, spitting,
769
00:36:48,540 --> 00:36:51,585
I mean, so exercised,
and pointing at Jack:
770
00:36:51,752 --> 00:36:54,046
"You tell your buddy
771
00:36:54,213 --> 00:36:57,341
I'm gonna put a spike
through his heart!"
772
00:36:57,507 --> 00:36:59,635
This is not something
the Attorney General
773
00:36:59,801 --> 00:37:01,053
of New York State says.
774
00:37:01,220 --> 00:37:03,260
So when Jack told me,
I said, "Jack, do me a favor."
775
00:37:03,347 --> 00:37:06,225
I said, "If you see him,
tell him one thing:
776
00:37:06,391 --> 00:37:08,977
make sure it's steel,
because wood'll break."
777
00:37:10,479 --> 00:37:13,398
Narrator:
The case dragged on for years.
778
00:37:13,565 --> 00:37:15,651
In 2008, the New York State
Court of Appeals
779
00:37:15,817 --> 00:37:18,070
dismissed the case
for a bizarre reason:
780
00:37:18,237 --> 00:37:20,822
since the suit had been brought,
the New York Stock Exchange
781
00:37:20,989 --> 00:37:23,659
had abandoned
its not-for-profit status.
782
00:37:23,825 --> 00:37:26,245
Dick Grasso kept all his money.
783
00:37:26,411 --> 00:37:28,664
But Eliot Spitzer
had engaged an enemy
784
00:37:28,830 --> 00:37:31,124
with virtually
unlimited resources,
785
00:37:31,291 --> 00:37:34,002
one who was watching
and waiting for any misstep.
786
00:37:35,545 --> 00:37:37,756
I'd like to think
787
00:37:37,923 --> 00:37:40,175
I'm not a vindictive person.
788
00:37:42,511 --> 00:37:45,514
And a basic tenet of my faith
is forgiveness.
789
00:37:47,224 --> 00:37:50,227
The most harm that
Eliot Spitzer has done to me
790
00:37:50,394 --> 00:37:53,230
is I am defying my faith.
791
00:37:53,397 --> 00:37:55,023
I can't forgive him
792
00:37:55,190 --> 00:37:57,234
and I should, but I can't.
793
00:38:10,163 --> 00:38:13,417
Narrator: In Ken Langone,
Spitzer had created a mighty enemy.
794
00:38:13,583 --> 00:38:16,712
And then he added another one
when he took on Hank Greenberg,
795
00:38:16,878 --> 00:38:20,299
the head of the world's largest
insurance company, AIG.
796
00:38:25,470 --> 00:38:28,223
At the age of 79,
Maurice "Hank" Greenberg
797
00:38:28,390 --> 00:38:31,143
was the most powerful
businessman on the planet.
798
00:38:31,310 --> 00:38:33,520
Under his command AIG had grown
799
00:38:33,687 --> 00:38:36,440
to be worth $157 billion
800
00:38:36,606 --> 00:38:39,026
with 92,000 employees.
801
00:38:39,192 --> 00:38:41,903
Admired for his
spectacular results,
802
00:38:42,070 --> 00:38:45,115
Greenberg ruled his empire
with an iron fist.
803
00:38:45,282 --> 00:38:48,285
I think he was Louis XIV
to everybody else's,
804
00:38:48,452 --> 00:38:50,412
you know, being a mere baron.
805
00:38:50,579 --> 00:38:54,124
I think Hank Greenberg
epitomized
806
00:38:54,291 --> 00:38:57,711
the power of corporate CEOs,
and in my view,
807
00:38:57,878 --> 00:39:00,881
he was the most powerful person
in corporate America.
808
00:39:01,048 --> 00:39:03,133
Narrator: Greenberg's measure
of his own worth
809
00:39:03,300 --> 00:39:06,053
was the stock price at AIG.
810
00:39:06,219 --> 00:39:09,639
The normal cycle of business
is that sometimes your profits go up
811
00:39:09,806 --> 00:39:11,475
and sometimes
your profits go down.
812
00:39:11,641 --> 00:39:14,019
But Wall Street didn't like
companies to perform that way.
813
00:39:14,186 --> 00:39:16,480
They wanted to see
steadily rising profits.
814
00:39:16,646 --> 00:39:18,648
If you delivered
steadily rising profits,
815
00:39:18,815 --> 00:39:20,650
they'd give you
a higher stock price.
816
00:39:20,817 --> 00:39:23,403
So Hank Greenberg came up
with a new type of insurance
817
00:39:23,570 --> 00:39:26,823
that would create the illusion
of steadily rising earnings.
818
00:39:26,990 --> 00:39:30,369
Narrator: Greenberg's AIG
was fined over $100 million
819
00:39:30,535 --> 00:39:32,162
by federal authorities
820
00:39:32,329 --> 00:39:35,123
for helping other companies
cook their books.
821
00:39:35,290 --> 00:39:37,793
In 2005 it appeared
that AIG might be
822
00:39:37,959 --> 00:39:41,213
using similar tricks
to pump up its own stock.
823
00:39:41,380 --> 00:39:44,591
Spitzer:
The more we dug into AIG,
824
00:39:44,758 --> 00:39:46,468
the more problematic
825
00:39:46,635 --> 00:39:50,222
the company itself
appeared to me to be.
826
00:39:50,389 --> 00:39:54,017
And the disconcerting
aspect of it
827
00:39:54,184 --> 00:39:58,063
was that it did appear
to come from the very top.
828
00:40:00,732 --> 00:40:02,651
Interviewer:
When did you first hear about
829
00:40:02,818 --> 00:40:05,862
Spitzer's investigation of AIG?
830
00:40:06,029 --> 00:40:08,031
When I got a subpoena.
831
00:40:08,198 --> 00:40:10,450
Narrator:
One deal generated by Greenberg
832
00:40:10,617 --> 00:40:13,370
caught the eye of Spitzer
and federal investigators.
833
00:40:13,537 --> 00:40:16,998
It was a suspicious contract
between AIG and Gen Re,
834
00:40:17,165 --> 00:40:20,794
a company owned by
billionaire Warren Buffett.
835
00:40:20,961 --> 00:40:23,255
One of the most startling
moments in this case
836
00:40:23,422 --> 00:40:25,799
was when tapes emerged
837
00:40:25,966 --> 00:40:29,052
that were dispositive,
overwhelming proof
838
00:40:29,219 --> 00:40:31,012
of exactly what these
transactions had been.
839
00:40:32,556 --> 00:40:34,724
As this was unfolding,
Dick Beattie called me
840
00:40:34,891 --> 00:40:38,270
one Saturday morning at home
and said let's talk about this.
841
00:40:38,437 --> 00:40:42,858
The board wanted me
to find out what I could
842
00:40:43,024 --> 00:40:45,986
about the Gen Re investigation.
843
00:40:46,153 --> 00:40:48,738
Eliot was jogging on
a Saturday morning or something.
844
00:40:48,905 --> 00:40:50,365
I met him in the park.
845
00:40:50,532 --> 00:40:54,286
The only thing of significance
he told me, as I recall,
846
00:40:54,453 --> 00:40:58,081
was that they had Hank...
847
00:40:58,248 --> 00:41:01,209
Hank's name on tapes.
848
00:41:20,645 --> 00:41:23,690
Narrator: To boost his stock price,
Hank Greenberg wanted
849
00:41:23,857 --> 00:41:28,945
to make it look like AIG
had $500 million more than it did.
850
00:41:29,112 --> 00:41:31,114
The original phone call
was to see if we could get
851
00:41:31,281 --> 00:41:33,700
a lost portfolio
from Ron Ferguson.
852
00:41:33,867 --> 00:41:35,494
What happened afterwards,
I don't know.
853
00:41:35,660 --> 00:41:39,080
I... I didn't... I wasn't involved
in the details of the transaction.
854
00:42:12,864 --> 00:42:15,534
Narrator: A handwritten deal memo
laid out the terms:
855
00:42:15,700 --> 00:42:19,955
Gen Re would pretend
to pay AIG $500 million
856
00:42:20,121 --> 00:42:22,082
in two installments
857
00:42:22,249 --> 00:42:24,543
for a phony insurance policy.
858
00:42:24,709 --> 00:42:26,628
There was no risk
of paying a claim.
859
00:42:29,256 --> 00:42:32,384
For doing the phony deal,
AIG would pay Gen Re
860
00:42:32,551 --> 00:42:34,886
a $5-million fee.
861
00:42:35,053 --> 00:42:39,015
Houldsworth: No risk.
No risk for 5 million bucks.
862
00:42:39,182 --> 00:42:41,601
Narrator: Hank Greenberg's
initials, MRG,
863
00:42:41,768 --> 00:42:43,395
were all over the document.
864
00:42:43,562 --> 00:42:45,331
Monrad: The two people
at AIG who are involved
865
00:42:45,355 --> 00:42:47,941
are Hank Greenberg
and Chris Milton.
866
00:42:48,108 --> 00:42:50,026
AIG was a big company.
867
00:42:50,193 --> 00:42:52,070
I didn't... I didn't stay focused
868
00:42:52,237 --> 00:42:54,739
on-on... on the Gen Re
transaction.
869
00:43:08,253 --> 00:43:10,505
Man:
Yes. ( laughs )
870
00:43:10,672 --> 00:43:12,424
Graham: That sorta gives
you somethin'...
871
00:43:12,591 --> 00:43:14,968
Man: Yeah, that tells you somethin',
doesn't it? Yeah.
872
00:43:15,135 --> 00:43:17,304
Narrator: What was an unfair
advantage to Greenberg
873
00:43:17,470 --> 00:43:20,265
was seen as cooking the books
to AIG's accountants,
874
00:43:20,432 --> 00:43:22,434
Pricewaterhouse Coopers.
875
00:43:22,601 --> 00:43:25,520
The firm refused to accept
AIG's financial statements
876
00:43:25,687 --> 00:43:28,273
as long as Greenberg
was the CEO.
877
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,986
Hank wasn't pushed out
by... by Eliot.
878
00:43:33,153 --> 00:43:36,364
What happened was
the investigation that followed
879
00:43:36,531 --> 00:43:38,908
and the accountants,
at the end of the day,
880
00:43:39,075 --> 00:43:41,786
said, "We're not taking
that certification anymore."
881
00:43:41,953 --> 00:43:43,793
So you're sitting here
as a board of directors,
882
00:43:43,955 --> 00:43:45,874
saying, "My God,
what does that mean?"
883
00:43:46,041 --> 00:43:48,376
That's what drove the board
884
00:43:48,543 --> 00:43:51,254
deciding that Hank had to go.
And one other issue.
885
00:43:51,421 --> 00:43:52,881
Narrator:
Spitzer demanded
886
00:43:53,048 --> 00:43:55,175
that Hank Greenberg
testify under oath.
887
00:43:55,342 --> 00:43:57,510
However Greenberg's
lawyers advised him
888
00:43:57,677 --> 00:44:00,472
to plead the Fifth,
despite AIG's policy
889
00:44:00,639 --> 00:44:04,059
to fire employees who didn't
cooperate with regulators.
890
00:44:05,268 --> 00:44:08,104
That troubled a lot
of people on the board.
891
00:44:08,271 --> 00:44:11,149
They wanted him to say,
you know, "Absolutely not.
892
00:44:11,316 --> 00:44:13,777
I'm not gonna take the Fifth.
I'm gonna testify."
893
00:44:13,943 --> 00:44:18,073
I think Frank Zarb and I
called Hank
894
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,117
and told him that the board
had made the decision
895
00:44:21,284 --> 00:44:23,787
that he had to step down.
896
00:44:23,953 --> 00:44:25,622
These are very serious offenses,
897
00:44:25,789 --> 00:44:28,083
over a billion dollars
of accounting frauds
898
00:44:28,249 --> 00:44:30,543
that AIG has
already acknowledged.
899
00:44:30,710 --> 00:44:33,505
That company was a black box
run with an iron fist
900
00:44:33,672 --> 00:44:36,758
by a CEO who did not tell
the public the truth.
901
00:44:36,925 --> 00:44:37,926
That is the problem.
902
00:44:38,093 --> 00:44:39,904
So does that mean you're moving
toward an indictment?
903
00:44:39,928 --> 00:44:41,781
No, I didn't say that.
It depends what we will prove,
904
00:44:41,805 --> 00:44:43,973
or can prove that Mr. Greenberg
knew at the time.
905
00:44:44,140 --> 00:44:46,118
We have powerful evidence.
We will proceed with it.
906
00:44:46,142 --> 00:44:49,104
It's too bad that
the attorney general
907
00:44:49,270 --> 00:44:52,607
doesn't come out
from behind his office,
908
00:44:52,774 --> 00:44:55,443
where he's protected
against libel.
909
00:44:55,610 --> 00:44:58,530
I wish he'd come out and say
these things as a citizen.
910
00:44:58,697 --> 00:45:01,116
Spitzer attacked Greenberg,
911
00:45:01,282 --> 00:45:05,161
and I saw him
on television one night
912
00:45:05,328 --> 00:45:08,873
saying that Hank Greenberg
was a crook.
913
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,501
Narrator: John Whitehead
had been a war hero,
914
00:45:11,668 --> 00:45:13,461
a Deputy Secretary of State
915
00:45:13,628 --> 00:45:16,297
and the chairman
of Goldman Sachs.
916
00:45:16,464 --> 00:45:19,134
And his office continued
to leak information
917
00:45:19,300 --> 00:45:20,885
about why he was a crook
918
00:45:21,052 --> 00:45:24,514
without ever any charges
being brought against Hank.
919
00:45:24,681 --> 00:45:27,684
So I said this is something
I have to do something about.
920
00:45:27,851 --> 00:45:31,438
So that's what caused me
to write that first article.
921
00:45:31,604 --> 00:45:35,400
"Something has gone
seriously awry
922
00:45:35,567 --> 00:45:39,112
when a state attorney general
can go on television
923
00:45:39,279 --> 00:45:42,782
and charge one of America's
best CEOs
924
00:45:42,949 --> 00:45:45,910
and most generous
philanthropists
925
00:45:46,077 --> 00:45:49,581
with fraud before any charges
have been brought,
926
00:45:49,748 --> 00:45:52,709
before the possible defendant
has even had a chance
927
00:45:52,876 --> 00:45:56,212
to know what he personally
is alleged to have done
928
00:45:56,379 --> 00:45:59,799
and while the investigation
is still underway."
929
00:45:59,966 --> 00:46:03,219
That was the thing
that set me off.
930
00:46:03,386 --> 00:46:05,138
I had heard of
an incident involving
931
00:46:05,305 --> 00:46:07,474
former Goldman Sachs chairman
John Whitehead.
932
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,517
Mr. Whitehead
had come out publicly
933
00:46:09,684 --> 00:46:11,060
supporting Mr. Greenberg.
934
00:46:11,227 --> 00:46:13,354
After that op-ed was published,
935
00:46:13,521 --> 00:46:16,941
he received a threatening
phone call from Eliot Spitzer.
936
00:46:17,108 --> 00:46:21,237
He asked me a couple
of questions about my article.
937
00:46:21,404 --> 00:46:22,822
And then he came
right to the point.
938
00:46:22,989 --> 00:46:24,866
He said, "Mr. Whitehead,"
he said,
939
00:46:25,033 --> 00:46:27,202
"You and I are now at war."
940
00:46:27,368 --> 00:46:29,621
You know, look, he had...
He had written an op.
941
00:46:29,788 --> 00:46:31,831
I don't know if I said
those words or not.
942
00:46:31,998 --> 00:46:34,918
If that's the worst I said,
you know, okay, that's...
943
00:46:35,084 --> 00:46:36,753
People are at war with me
all the time.
944
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,760
Interviewer: "You have fired
the first bullet."
945
00:46:38,922 --> 00:46:41,549
"You have
fired the first bullet.
946
00:46:41,716 --> 00:46:44,135
But believe me,
by the end of this war,
947
00:46:44,302 --> 00:46:47,764
I will fire the last one
and you will be dead."
948
00:46:47,931 --> 00:46:49,742
Well, I don't think I said that.
I mean, John White...
949
00:46:49,766 --> 00:46:52,086
I wouldn't say... I... I...
Look, I hope I didn't say that.
950
00:46:52,143 --> 00:46:53,978
He was screaming into the phone.
951
00:46:54,145 --> 00:46:56,523
He and I had
a heated conversation.
952
00:46:56,689 --> 00:46:58,626
I will leave it at that.
It was a private conversation.
953
00:46:58,650 --> 00:47:00,401
As I've said, I've never denied
954
00:47:00,568 --> 00:47:02,213
that I have heated
conversations in private.
955
00:47:02,237 --> 00:47:06,908
It's... it was me,
it is me, so be it.
956
00:47:07,075 --> 00:47:09,619
And I think sometimes
it's how you get things done.
957
00:47:09,786 --> 00:47:13,623
He said,
"I will destroy you."
958
00:47:13,790 --> 00:47:16,334
And those are...
Those are strong words.
959
00:47:16,501 --> 00:47:20,046
I had never heard words like that
before from anybody.
960
00:47:20,213 --> 00:47:21,714
I couldn't quite believe it.
961
00:47:23,174 --> 00:47:26,427
Narrator: Spitzer's outbursts
became legendary to his staff.
962
00:47:26,594 --> 00:47:28,388
When he exploded,
his staff would remark
963
00:47:28,555 --> 00:47:30,932
that Spitzer's evil twin "Irwin"
964
00:47:31,099 --> 00:47:33,726
had dropped in
for an unexpected visit.
965
00:47:33,893 --> 00:47:37,438
In fact, a very prominent lawyer
966
00:47:37,605 --> 00:47:41,401
of a very fine company
had a meeting with him.
967
00:47:41,568 --> 00:47:43,862
And this man said to me,
968
00:47:44,028 --> 00:47:48,116
"When I came out of his office,
I swore I saw the words E-V-I-L
969
00:47:48,283 --> 00:47:50,159
across his forehead."
970
00:47:50,326 --> 00:47:53,371
I have no doubt if Hank Greenberg
were still running AIG,
971
00:47:53,538 --> 00:47:55,790
AIG would not be
in the fix it's in today.
972
00:47:55,957 --> 00:47:58,835
Today the federal government
announced it has once again
973
00:47:59,002 --> 00:48:02,630
reworked the bailout
of insurance giant AIG.
974
00:48:02,797 --> 00:48:04,799
Reporter: Now the bailout
needs a bailout.
975
00:48:04,966 --> 00:48:06,843
Two months after AIG was given
976
00:48:07,010 --> 00:48:09,178
that first emergency
government loan,
977
00:48:09,345 --> 00:48:10,930
it's getting another lifeline.
978
00:48:11,097 --> 00:48:14,142
Narrator: In 2008
AIG was at the center
979
00:48:14,309 --> 00:48:16,519
of a global economic meltdown.
980
00:48:16,686 --> 00:48:18,646
Before and after
Greenberg's fall,
981
00:48:18,813 --> 00:48:21,691
AIG had been selling
billions of dollars of insurance
982
00:48:21,858 --> 00:48:23,568
to the world's biggest banks
983
00:48:23,735 --> 00:48:26,738
to hide their risky gambles
on home mortgages.
984
00:48:28,114 --> 00:48:31,534
When housing prices collapsed,
AIG couldn't pay the claims,
985
00:48:31,701 --> 00:48:34,954
and US taxpayers
paid $183 billion
986
00:48:35,121 --> 00:48:38,750
in an effort to save
the global economy from collapse.
987
00:48:40,293 --> 00:48:43,504
According to Greenberg,
the blame for AIG's fall
988
00:48:43,671 --> 00:48:47,050
and the global meltdown
rested with one regulator...
989
00:48:47,216 --> 00:48:49,469
Eliot Spitzer.
990
00:48:49,636 --> 00:48:51,679
Spitzer wanted me out.
991
00:48:52,805 --> 00:48:55,350
When politicians
involve themselves
992
00:48:55,516 --> 00:48:58,728
in who is going to run
a company and who is not,
993
00:48:58,895 --> 00:49:01,689
we're on dangerous ground
in this country.
994
00:49:01,856 --> 00:49:04,692
Spitzer:
It is the big lie writ large.
995
00:49:04,859 --> 00:49:07,737
The books were being cooked
at his company.
996
00:49:07,904 --> 00:49:11,616
Hank Greenberg was removed
as CEO by his own board
997
00:49:11,783 --> 00:49:14,494
when they saw
the underlying facts
998
00:49:14,661 --> 00:49:17,789
of what was then one of the
largest financial frauds in history.
999
00:49:17,956 --> 00:49:19,499
I didn't do anything improper.
1000
00:49:19,666 --> 00:49:23,002
Neither did any of the senior team
do anything improper.
1001
00:49:24,379 --> 00:49:26,714
Interviewer: You say to people,
if Hank Greenberg had
1002
00:49:26,881 --> 00:49:28,801
still been there, this would
never have happened?
1003
00:49:28,967 --> 00:49:30,969
It would not have happened.
1004
00:49:31,135 --> 00:49:33,388
Spitzer: The very trading practices
that led to these
1005
00:49:33,554 --> 00:49:35,640
gargantuan obligations
1006
00:49:35,807 --> 00:49:37,809
that taxpayers
are now bailing out
1007
00:49:37,976 --> 00:49:40,061
all began while he was there:
1008
00:49:40,228 --> 00:49:41,813
Very significant
accounting frauds,
1009
00:49:41,980 --> 00:49:45,233
reinsurance contracts which
he participated in structuring
1010
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,194
that were deemed
by a federal jury
1011
00:49:48,361 --> 00:49:50,446
in Connecticut to be illegal.
1012
00:49:50,613 --> 00:49:51,864
Four people went to jail.
1013
00:49:52,031 --> 00:49:53,783
He was called
an unindicted co-conspirator
1014
00:49:53,950 --> 00:49:55,535
by the prosecutor in that case.
1015
00:49:55,702 --> 00:49:57,620
So his maintaining uninvolvement
1016
00:49:57,787 --> 00:50:00,832
in the structural issues
is simply wrong.
1017
00:50:00,999 --> 00:50:03,626
Narrator: Spitzer wanted
to prosecute Greenberg
1018
00:50:03,793 --> 00:50:06,587
for financial manipulation,
but was called off the case
1019
00:50:06,754 --> 00:50:09,340
by the US Attorney
Michael Garcia.
1020
00:50:09,507 --> 00:50:13,886
Spitzer: Michael Garcia sent me
an over-the-top letter
1021
00:50:14,053 --> 00:50:17,098
when we were going to include
1022
00:50:17,265 --> 00:50:19,225
significant allegations
1023
00:50:19,392 --> 00:50:22,520
relating to Hank Greenberg
in our AIG complaint,
1024
00:50:22,687 --> 00:50:24,689
telling us to back off.
1025
00:50:24,856 --> 00:50:28,609
And it was a moment of...
1026
00:50:28,776 --> 00:50:31,195
I don't want to say there was
anything improper
1027
00:50:31,362 --> 00:50:32,989
about the letter
that Garcia sent,
1028
00:50:33,156 --> 00:50:35,324
but he basically said,
"Don't you dare go near this.
1029
00:50:35,491 --> 00:50:38,703
We're doing this,"
relating to Hank Greenberg.
1030
00:50:44,042 --> 00:50:47,754
Narrator: Michael Garcia never pursued
charges against Greenberg.
1031
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,715
Instead he would lead
the prosecution
1032
00:50:50,882 --> 00:50:53,009
that led to Spitzer's downfall.
1033
00:50:54,302 --> 00:50:55,970
Both Greenberg and Langone
1034
00:50:56,137 --> 00:50:58,765
hired PR firms to go after Spitzer.
1035
00:50:58,931 --> 00:51:01,350
And Langone hired
a private investigator
1036
00:51:01,517 --> 00:51:03,895
to find out what he could.
1037
00:51:05,063 --> 00:51:07,523
Interviewer: I want to move on to the...
To The Emperors Club.
1038
00:51:07,690 --> 00:51:11,611
When did that start,
approximately?
1039
00:51:11,778 --> 00:51:14,447
- Sometime in '06.
- Early '06?
1040
00:51:14,614 --> 00:51:17,158
Thereabouts, yeah.
1041
00:51:17,325 --> 00:51:21,204
You were flying about as high
as you could possibly be flying.
1042
00:51:21,370 --> 00:51:23,164
- Mm-hmm.
- And this is prior to...
1043
00:51:23,331 --> 00:51:25,917
At that point in time,
you were pretty certain
1044
00:51:26,084 --> 00:51:27,519
you were gonna be
Governor of New York,
1045
00:51:27,543 --> 00:51:29,545
- wouldn't you say?
- Right. Well, really, look.
1046
00:51:29,712 --> 00:51:31,672
If your point is things were
1047
00:51:31,839 --> 00:51:34,258
as good as they could get,
1048
00:51:34,425 --> 00:51:37,428
from a political perspective,
I suppose that's right.
1049
00:51:37,595 --> 00:51:41,682
And the only metaphor
1050
00:51:41,849 --> 00:51:44,685
I can think of perhaps is Icarus.
1051
00:51:46,437 --> 00:51:48,189
Those whom the gods
would destroy,
1052
00:51:48,356 --> 00:51:50,024
they make all-powerful.
1053
00:51:59,033 --> 00:52:02,620
A friend of mine
recently gave me a T-shirt
1054
00:52:02,787 --> 00:52:06,541
that he claimed he had
had printed
1055
00:52:06,707 --> 00:52:08,918
for investment banker
friends of his.
1056
00:52:09,085 --> 00:52:10,354
But he thought I would enjoy it,
1057
00:52:10,378 --> 00:52:12,380
and maybe I could
maybe even learn from it.
1058
00:52:12,547 --> 00:52:16,676
The T-shirt said on its front,
"Hubris is terminal."
1059
00:52:16,843 --> 00:52:19,512
♪ If I ruled the world ♪
1060
00:52:19,679 --> 00:52:21,806
( laughing )
1061
00:52:21,973 --> 00:52:23,975
♪ I'd love all the girls ♪
1062
00:52:24,142 --> 00:52:25,977
♪ I love 'em,
love 'em, baby. ♪
1063
00:52:26,144 --> 00:52:27,812
I'm not a kingmaker.
1064
00:52:27,979 --> 00:52:29,456
But I'm gonna call it...
You're gonna win.
1065
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:30,833
- Well, thank you.
- I'll tell you why.
1066
00:52:30,857 --> 00:52:33,001
- I'm glad I came tonight.
- Well, absolutely, it's done.
1067
00:52:33,025 --> 00:52:34,235
Narrator:
In early 2006
1068
00:52:34,402 --> 00:52:36,112
Spitzer's approval ratings
were over 60%.
1069
00:52:36,279 --> 00:52:38,030
He had announced
his run for governor
1070
00:52:38,197 --> 00:52:40,158
and was predicted to win
in a landslide.
1071
00:52:40,324 --> 00:52:43,161
You could do anything.
You could punch a toddler and still win.
1072
00:52:43,327 --> 00:52:47,415
Narrator: His career
was every politician's dream.
1073
00:52:47,582 --> 00:52:48,583
No, I was the enforcer.
1074
00:52:48,749 --> 00:52:50,626
I mean, I was the kid
who played left fullback,
1075
00:52:50,793 --> 00:52:52,879
not because I had real talent,
but I took people out.
1076
00:52:53,045 --> 00:52:56,841
You play hard, you play rough
and hopefully you don't get caught.
1077
00:52:57,008 --> 00:52:58,634
( laughs )
1078
00:52:58,801 --> 00:53:00,678
Narrator: Right around this time,
Cecil Suwal,
1079
00:53:00,845 --> 00:53:03,222
the 22-year-old CEO
of The Emperors Club,
1080
00:53:03,389 --> 00:53:05,850
took a phone call
from a new customer.
1081
00:53:06,017 --> 00:53:08,269
Though he used the name
"George Fox,"
1082
00:53:08,436 --> 00:53:10,980
it was actually Eliot Spitzer.
1083
00:53:11,147 --> 00:53:13,107
The very first time that he called,
1084
00:53:13,274 --> 00:53:15,193
I answered the phone.
1085
00:53:15,359 --> 00:53:18,070
And he called
and he was whispering.
1086
00:53:18,237 --> 00:53:20,364
So I thought it was a prank.
1087
00:53:20,531 --> 00:53:22,867
And so the other Booker
called and said,
1088
00:53:23,034 --> 00:53:25,328
"Okay, I'm ready to start
answering the phones."
1089
00:53:25,494 --> 00:53:27,413
So we transferred the phone
to her, and I said,
1090
00:53:27,580 --> 00:53:28,765
"Oh, I just spoke with someone.
1091
00:53:28,789 --> 00:53:30,666
You know, I'm gonna
let you handle that."
1092
00:53:30,833 --> 00:53:34,754
And apparently, he saw,
I think, three people in a row,
1093
00:53:34,921 --> 00:53:36,589
just back to back that evening.
1094
00:53:36,756 --> 00:53:38,883
So I guess it wasn't a prank.
1095
00:53:39,050 --> 00:53:41,135
Narrator:
Reading "New York" magazine,
1096
00:53:41,302 --> 00:53:44,639
George Fox, AKA Eliot Spitzer,
1097
00:53:44,805 --> 00:53:47,600
claims he was drawn to websites
in the classified ads,
1098
00:53:47,767 --> 00:53:51,187
and while surfing the web,
found The Emperors Club.
1099
00:53:51,354 --> 00:53:53,397
♪ Secret heart ♪
1100
00:53:53,564 --> 00:53:56,067
♪ What are you made of? ♪
1101
00:53:56,234 --> 00:54:00,488
♪ What are you so afraid of? ♪
1102
00:54:00,655 --> 00:54:02,990
♪ Could it be ♪
1103
00:54:03,157 --> 00:54:05,785
♪ Three simple words? ♪
1104
00:54:05,952 --> 00:54:08,371
Suwal: When you're sending
a girl on a trip to Chicago
1105
00:54:08,537 --> 00:54:10,373
for $30,000 overnight,
1106
00:54:10,539 --> 00:54:14,877
it doesn't necessarily feel like
you're running "prostitution."
1107
00:54:15,044 --> 00:54:16,712
It feels different.
1108
00:54:16,879 --> 00:54:19,257
And so that's where I think
we got a little bit lost,
1109
00:54:19,423 --> 00:54:22,385
as far as the whole legality
of the situation.
1110
00:54:22,551 --> 00:54:26,514
♪ This buried secret
that you'll try... ♪
1111
00:54:26,681 --> 00:54:29,392
Narrator: Cecil Suwal dropped out
of the University of Miami
1112
00:54:29,558 --> 00:54:32,228
when she fell in love
with 60-year-old Mark Brener,
1113
00:54:32,395 --> 00:54:33,729
who owned The Emperors Club.
1114
00:54:33,896 --> 00:54:36,816
Soon they were
running it together.
1115
00:54:36,983 --> 00:54:38,526
The night that they arrested us,
1116
00:54:38,693 --> 00:54:41,112
we were just sleeping
together in our...
1117
00:54:41,279 --> 00:54:42,446
You know, holding each other.
1118
00:54:42,613 --> 00:54:44,657
We really just loved each other.
1119
00:54:44,824 --> 00:54:46,826
Not only were we lovers,
1120
00:54:46,993 --> 00:54:48,828
but we also had the business,
1121
00:54:48,995 --> 00:54:51,205
so everything was
all wrapped up into one.
1122
00:54:51,372 --> 00:54:54,458
And I love him, so...
I still do.
1123
00:54:54,625 --> 00:54:56,711
♪ Come out and share it. ♪
1124
00:54:56,877 --> 00:54:58,462
Narrator:
"Cece," as she was called,
1125
00:54:58,629 --> 00:55:00,298
decided to take
The Emperors Club
1126
00:55:00,464 --> 00:55:02,049
in a more high-end direction.
1127
00:55:02,216 --> 00:55:04,051
My primary focus at the time
1128
00:55:04,218 --> 00:55:07,471
was to promote the website
to the right people,
1129
00:55:07,638 --> 00:55:11,559
to the right kinds of girls,
1130
00:55:11,726 --> 00:55:14,520
who... the kind who,
you know, are well-educated
1131
00:55:14,687 --> 00:55:16,355
and come from good families.
1132
00:55:16,522 --> 00:55:19,608
The number of diamonds
that the model had
1133
00:55:19,775 --> 00:55:22,653
indicated not only
her hourly and daily rate,
1134
00:55:22,820 --> 00:55:26,657
but also just the general
quality of companionship
1135
00:55:26,824 --> 00:55:28,159
you could expect from her.
1136
00:55:28,326 --> 00:55:29,910
So if she was three diamonds,
1137
00:55:30,077 --> 00:55:31,912
her daily rate would be 10,000
1138
00:55:32,079 --> 00:55:34,290
and her hourly rate
would be 1,000.
1139
00:55:34,457 --> 00:55:37,001
It went 1000, 1200, 1500,
1140
00:55:37,168 --> 00:55:39,420
2100, 3100.
1141
00:55:39,587 --> 00:55:42,465
And then the day rates,
you would just add a zero.
1142
00:55:42,631 --> 00:55:44,592
( laughs )
I did that.
1143
00:55:44,759 --> 00:55:47,261
With mathematical
precision, right?
1144
00:55:47,428 --> 00:55:50,264
Tsss!
Whatever!
1145
00:55:50,431 --> 00:55:52,767
Just add a zero,
that should work.
1146
00:55:54,477 --> 00:55:57,188
We had our core girls
that we immensely valued,
1147
00:55:57,355 --> 00:55:59,275
that really could, you know,
bring home the bacon
1148
00:55:59,398 --> 00:56:01,609
and then we had
the sort of spiral effect.
1149
00:56:01,776 --> 00:56:04,487
Ashley went for 1,000.
1150
00:56:08,032 --> 00:56:09,658
She certainly wasn't the core.
1151
00:56:09,825 --> 00:56:12,620
She was definitely one of
the girls, like, on the edges,
1152
00:56:12,787 --> 00:56:14,372
the sort of peripheries.
1153
00:56:16,248 --> 00:56:17,958
We had people
working with us in LA,
1154
00:56:18,125 --> 00:56:21,337
Miami, New York, London, Paris.
1155
00:56:21,504 --> 00:56:23,172
They were just all over the world.
1156
00:56:23,339 --> 00:56:25,800
( bagpipes playing )
1157
00:56:25,966 --> 00:56:27,885
Narrator: The club's
richest client in London
1158
00:56:28,052 --> 00:56:29,595
was the Duke of Westminster.
1159
00:56:29,762 --> 00:56:32,098
One of his dates
was Zana Brazdek.
1160
00:56:32,264 --> 00:56:35,518
Suwal: She drank an entire
bottle of champagne
1161
00:56:35,684 --> 00:56:37,937
and he doesn't drink alcohol.
1162
00:56:38,104 --> 00:56:40,231
So she got drunk,
1163
00:56:40,398 --> 00:56:43,984
and once she
figured out who it was,
1164
00:56:44,151 --> 00:56:48,114
went to the reporters
and, you know,
1165
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,199
it was sort of a mishap,
if you will.
1166
00:56:50,366 --> 00:56:53,369
Narrator: Zana had violated
the employment standards
1167
00:56:53,536 --> 00:56:55,955
of the club and had
to be terminated.
1168
00:56:56,122 --> 00:56:57,164
♪ Very secret... ♪
1169
00:56:57,331 --> 00:57:00,501
Suwal: I began seeking out
fashion models
1170
00:57:00,668 --> 00:57:04,880
and the absolute highest
financial elite as clients
1171
00:57:05,047 --> 00:57:07,800
and sort of putting them together
and then charging a fee.
1172
00:57:07,967 --> 00:57:10,845
Interviewer: So I get it.
So that was the rationale then.
1173
00:57:11,011 --> 00:57:13,139
In other words
so long as you presented it
1174
00:57:13,305 --> 00:57:16,684
as a get-together service,
1175
00:57:16,851 --> 00:57:19,854
then you weren't doing
anything illegal.
1176
00:57:21,605 --> 00:57:23,274
Yeah.
1177
00:57:25,651 --> 00:57:29,864
Narrator: The man known as George Fox
became a regular client.
1178
00:57:30,030 --> 00:57:33,742
Interviewer: How often did he meet
with Ashley, or "Kristen"?
1179
00:57:33,909 --> 00:57:36,203
Well, he met her one time
1180
00:57:36,370 --> 00:57:41,542
and that was the big
Mayflower experience for him, I guess.
1181
00:57:41,709 --> 00:57:43,794
Interviewer: But it was
just that one time?
1182
00:57:43,961 --> 00:57:45,504
One time.
1183
00:57:47,590 --> 00:57:49,592
Sawyer: How often did you see
Governor Spitzer?
1184
00:57:49,758 --> 00:57:54,054
Legally, I am... I'm not able
to answer that question.
1185
00:57:54,221 --> 00:57:58,601
Sawyer: Court documents say they may
have had previous encounters.
1186
00:58:00,436 --> 00:58:02,813
Narrator:
The court documents didn't say that.
1187
00:58:04,690 --> 00:58:08,736
Ashley Dupré let the world believe
that she was the "Luv Gov's" girl.
1188
00:58:08,903 --> 00:58:10,946
But she was only
a one-night stand,
1189
00:58:11,113 --> 00:58:13,407
caught on a wiretap
at the Mayflower Hotel
1190
00:58:13,574 --> 00:58:15,618
in Washington, DC.
1191
00:58:15,784 --> 00:58:19,455
That begged the question:
who else was there?
1192
00:58:20,873 --> 00:58:23,167
There was someone
who he enjoyed seeing most.
1193
00:58:23,334 --> 00:58:26,212
And she was very pretty
and a very intelligent girl,
1194
00:58:26,378 --> 00:58:28,339
and not a... not a fashion model.
1195
00:58:28,506 --> 00:58:31,550
She had her own career.
1196
00:58:31,717 --> 00:58:33,636
And he liked to meet
with her frequently.
1197
00:58:33,802 --> 00:58:37,598
And she was actually the first person
who said, "Oh, this is Eliot Spitzer."
1198
00:58:39,433 --> 00:58:42,102
Narrator: The escort chose
the name "Angelina."
1199
00:58:42,269 --> 00:58:45,189
I discovered who she was
and she agreed to speak to me
1200
00:58:45,356 --> 00:58:47,691
so long as I did not
disclose her real name,
1201
00:58:47,858 --> 00:58:50,194
her face or reveal her voice.
1202
00:58:50,361 --> 00:58:53,113
So I transcribed her interview
and hired this actress
1203
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,324
to perform her words.
1204
00:59:04,124 --> 00:59:06,460
"Angelina":
He used the name George Fox
1205
00:59:06,627 --> 00:59:11,131
and he booked an hour
at a New York hotel, Upper East Side.
1206
00:59:11,298 --> 00:59:14,093
Um...
1207
00:59:14,260 --> 00:59:18,514
that first time
it was very businesslike.
1208
00:59:18,681 --> 00:59:21,368
Interviewer: You said he wasn't
that interested in the companionship.
1209
00:59:21,392 --> 00:59:24,311
( laughing )
1210
00:59:24,478 --> 00:59:26,480
Right.
1211
00:59:29,733 --> 00:59:32,027
- You're laughing.
- It's funny.
1212
00:59:32,194 --> 00:59:34,530
'Cause he wasn't at all interested
in the companionship?
1213
00:59:34,697 --> 00:59:36,740
I'm not... from what I...
From what I heard.
1214
00:59:36,907 --> 00:59:39,493
I remember thinking
he was like...
1215
00:59:41,996 --> 00:59:45,124
I hate to put this crudely, um...
1216
00:59:45,291 --> 00:59:48,419
A trying-to-get-his-
money's-worth type client.
1217
00:59:48,586 --> 00:59:50,671
I said to the agency,
you know, I don't...
1218
00:59:50,838 --> 00:59:53,299
I don't want to see
that person again.
1219
00:59:53,465 --> 00:59:57,636
Interviewer: In what seems to be
a kind of epidemic
1220
00:59:57,803 --> 01:00:01,181
of, you know, political figures
and sex scandals,
1221
01:00:01,348 --> 01:00:05,019
one question is, why...
1222
01:00:05,185 --> 01:00:07,146
you know, why hookers?
1223
01:00:07,313 --> 01:00:10,733
I mean, why, particularly when
that's, you know, illegal?
1224
01:00:13,068 --> 01:00:16,947
Again, I don't want
to delve into...
1225
01:00:17,114 --> 01:00:19,158
Certainly don't want
to speak for others,
1226
01:00:19,325 --> 01:00:21,368
and even in my own case,
1227
01:00:21,535 --> 01:00:24,288
don't really want
to speak to that issue,
1228
01:00:24,455 --> 01:00:26,498
except to say that
you cave to temptations
1229
01:00:26,665 --> 01:00:29,376
in a way that perhaps
seems easier
1230
01:00:29,543 --> 01:00:33,589
and... and perhaps is,
1231
01:00:33,756 --> 01:00:37,676
in some very twisted way,
less damaging.
1232
01:00:37,843 --> 01:00:39,678
Interviewer:
Less damaging how?
1233
01:00:39,845 --> 01:00:42,222
Than having affairs
or relationships
1234
01:00:42,389 --> 01:00:44,350
that take on a different tenor.
1235
01:00:44,516 --> 01:00:46,185
That have...
I'm sorry, that have what?
1236
01:00:46,352 --> 01:00:48,312
Relationships that take
on a different tenor.
1237
01:00:48,479 --> 01:00:50,040
You mean that have
some sort of emotional...
1238
01:00:50,064 --> 01:00:51,940
Perhaps, yeah.
1239
01:00:52,107 --> 01:00:55,152
Narrator: Eliot Spitzer
had taken the first step
1240
01:00:55,319 --> 01:00:57,363
into his double life.
1241
01:00:57,529 --> 01:00:59,573
He had just entered
a world which formerly
1242
01:00:59,740 --> 01:01:02,868
he had seen only from the outside,
as a prosecutor.
1243
01:01:03,035 --> 01:01:05,746
In April 2004, after wiretapping
1244
01:01:05,913 --> 01:01:07,956
a social club in Staten Island,
1245
01:01:08,123 --> 01:01:11,418
Spitzer helped
the FBI and NYPD bring down
1246
01:01:11,585 --> 01:01:13,962
a sophisticated prostitution ring.
1247
01:01:14,129 --> 01:01:16,298
He knew how it was done.
1248
01:01:16,465 --> 01:01:18,592
He also knew his life
was about to become
1249
01:01:18,759 --> 01:01:20,928
more public
than it had ever been.
1250
01:01:22,596 --> 01:01:25,265
Announcer: If we're ever going
to reform Albany,
1251
01:01:25,432 --> 01:01:28,268
it's gonna start
on November 7th,
1252
01:01:28,435 --> 01:01:30,396
Election Day.
1253
01:01:30,562 --> 01:01:34,983
Because if one man can stand up
to the powerful, so can you.
1254
01:01:35,150 --> 01:01:38,028
He'll ask and you'll answer.
1255
01:01:38,195 --> 01:01:40,030
And with one collective roar,
1256
01:01:40,197 --> 01:01:43,117
we'll wake the state government
right out of its long sleep.
1257
01:01:43,283 --> 01:01:45,661
And on that day,
government will stop being
1258
01:01:45,828 --> 01:01:47,538
that thing we complain about
1259
01:01:47,705 --> 01:01:51,542
and start being that thing
we can do something about.
1260
01:01:51,709 --> 01:01:54,211
Jimmy Siegel: When I started doing Eliot's
campaign ads,
1261
01:01:54,378 --> 01:01:58,966
everyone was very enthusiastic
because we all felt like
1262
01:01:59,133 --> 01:02:01,927
we were working for a candidate
that comes along once every,
1263
01:02:02,094 --> 01:02:04,680
I don't know, 20 years,
you know, 30 years.
1264
01:02:04,847 --> 01:02:07,141
I came in with a line which was
1265
01:02:07,307 --> 01:02:09,518
"Bring some passion
back to Albany."
1266
01:02:09,685 --> 01:02:11,645
New Yorkers don't like anger,
1267
01:02:11,812 --> 01:02:13,731
but every New Yorker
likes passion.
1268
01:02:15,691 --> 01:02:17,693
( upbeat music playing )
1269
01:02:21,864 --> 01:02:24,533
Narrator: Silda Wall Spitzer
persuaded her husband
1270
01:02:24,700 --> 01:02:26,034
to hire Jimmy Siegel.
1271
01:02:26,201 --> 01:02:27,911
She sensed that Siegel
had the ability
1272
01:02:28,078 --> 01:02:30,581
to frame Spitzer's severe
combative style
1273
01:02:30,748 --> 01:02:34,001
in an emotional
populist campaign.
1274
01:02:34,168 --> 01:02:36,712
Siegel: I don't think she signed up
to be a political wife,
1275
01:02:36,879 --> 01:02:37,963
the wife of a politician.
1276
01:02:38,130 --> 01:02:41,884
But I think she ended up
really enjoying the campaign.
1277
01:02:42,050 --> 01:02:44,928
She was amazing to work with,
1278
01:02:45,095 --> 01:02:47,139
and one of the nicest people.
1279
01:02:47,306 --> 01:02:49,141
And she really cared.
1280
01:02:49,308 --> 01:02:52,478
She really believed in him
and believed in this cause.
1281
01:02:52,644 --> 01:02:56,106
Pre-Barack Obama,
you could make the case
1282
01:02:56,273 --> 01:02:58,984
that Eliot was the preeminent
Democratic politician
1283
01:02:59,151 --> 01:03:00,778
in America at that point.
1284
01:03:00,944 --> 01:03:03,864
In the political world, it was
kind of like working for a rock star.
1285
01:03:04,031 --> 01:03:06,658
( crowd cheering )
1286
01:03:08,869 --> 01:03:10,680
- ( fanfare )
- Announcer: Ladies and gentlemen,
1287
01:03:10,704 --> 01:03:14,166
I present to you the Governor-Elect
of the State of New York,
1288
01:03:14,333 --> 01:03:16,877
the Honorable Eliot Spitzer.
1289
01:03:17,044 --> 01:03:18,337
( audience applauding )
1290
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,549
Narrator: Taking a record
69% of the vote,
1291
01:03:22,716 --> 01:03:26,428
Eliot Spitzer had a popular
mandate to make big changes.
1292
01:03:26,595 --> 01:03:30,599
Together let's build
that one New York,
1293
01:03:30,766 --> 01:03:33,977
let's walk toward
that better day.
1294
01:03:34,144 --> 01:03:38,273
Thank you, and God bless
the great state of New York.
1295
01:03:40,943 --> 01:03:42,921
Constantine: Here he was,
he's Governor of New York,
1296
01:03:42,945 --> 01:03:43,946
he's king of the world,
1297
01:03:44,112 --> 01:03:46,031
he's the future President
of the United States.
1298
01:03:46,198 --> 01:03:48,450
Eliot Spitzer is going
to fix up this state
1299
01:03:48,617 --> 01:03:51,453
and then he's going to go to
Washington and do the same thing
1300
01:03:51,620 --> 01:03:54,790
that he just did for New York
for the United States.
1301
01:03:54,957 --> 01:03:57,417
That was in everybody's mind.
1302
01:04:04,842 --> 01:04:06,593
Spitzer: People had said
to me before I won,
1303
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:08,929
"Do to Albany what you did
to Wall Street."
1304
01:04:09,096 --> 01:04:10,889
And we tried.
We went at it
1305
01:04:11,056 --> 01:04:15,519
with a determination that was alien
to the culture of Albany.
1306
01:04:20,607 --> 01:04:24,820
Narrator: The Capitol building in Albany
was a monument to corruption.
1307
01:04:24,987 --> 01:04:27,197
America's most expensive
government building
1308
01:04:27,364 --> 01:04:28,991
was like the legislature...
1309
01:04:29,157 --> 01:04:33,453
A bog of waste,
double-dealing and graft.
1310
01:04:35,205 --> 01:04:37,791
The gargoyles on the walls
haunted the place.
1311
01:04:37,958 --> 01:04:41,628
The maze of grand stairways
navigated by special interests
1312
01:04:41,795 --> 01:04:44,756
robbed lawmakers
of any sense of perspective.
1313
01:04:49,177 --> 01:04:50,297
Spitzer:
It's like an Escher.
1314
01:04:50,345 --> 01:04:52,931
You don't know if you're going
up or down, left or right.
1315
01:04:53,098 --> 01:04:56,184
The mind gets turned upside down
inside that building.
1316
01:04:58,729 --> 01:05:01,565
Fred Dicker: I think over the years
that some people have appropriately
1317
01:05:01,732 --> 01:05:03,901
seen it as a metaphor
for the labyrinthian nature
1318
01:05:04,067 --> 01:05:05,402
of New York politics.
1319
01:05:05,569 --> 01:05:09,072
Radio announcer: It's time for
"Live from the State Capitol,"
1320
01:05:09,239 --> 01:05:10,574
with Fred Dicker.
1321
01:05:10,741 --> 01:05:12,427
Narrator: Fred Dicker,
of the "New York Post,"
1322
01:05:12,451 --> 01:05:14,286
was a 25-year veteran in Albany.
1323
01:05:14,453 --> 01:05:16,472
Well, this is Fred Dicker
live at the state capitol.
1324
01:05:16,496 --> 01:05:17,915
Welcome.
What a beautiful day...
1325
01:05:18,081 --> 01:05:19,958
Narrator: Deeply conservative,
Dicker was proud
1326
01:05:20,125 --> 01:05:22,836
of calling himself
"an equal-opportunity prick,"
1327
01:05:23,003 --> 01:05:25,672
attacking whomever
came into office.
1328
01:05:25,839 --> 01:05:28,050
Dicker: Eliot Spitzer,
who didn't suffer fools lightly,
1329
01:05:28,216 --> 01:05:30,344
was treating a separate
branch of government,
1330
01:05:30,510 --> 01:05:33,013
the legislature that could
block him at every turn,
1331
01:05:33,180 --> 01:05:34,723
as if he could just
push 'em around
1332
01:05:34,890 --> 01:05:36,558
like they were
Wall Street executives.
1333
01:05:36,725 --> 01:05:38,578
Well, they pushed back
and they pushed back hard.
1334
01:05:38,602 --> 01:05:40,479
Narrator: The man
who pushed back hardest
1335
01:05:40,646 --> 01:05:43,398
was Republican
Senate Leader Joe Bruno.
1336
01:05:43,565 --> 01:05:45,525
A charming old-school dealmaker,
1337
01:05:45,692 --> 01:05:48,862
he wasn't much interested
in Spitzer's reforms.
1338
01:05:49,029 --> 01:05:53,116
Bruno: He thought that he really
was sort of the Second Coming
1339
01:05:53,283 --> 01:05:55,619
and that he was going
to get everybody
1340
01:05:55,786 --> 01:05:57,704
to do what he wanted to do.
1341
01:05:57,871 --> 01:06:00,457
I think he started
thinking dictatorially
1342
01:06:00,624 --> 01:06:02,793
almost, you know,
in his own mind.
1343
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:04,294
It wasn't a cakewalk.
1344
01:06:04,461 --> 01:06:07,714
It was not going to be as easy
as building a legal case,
1345
01:06:07,881 --> 01:06:10,281
presenting it to a fact-finder
and then you get a resolution.
1346
01:06:10,425 --> 01:06:13,971
This is a political process,
which is much more complicated.
1347
01:06:14,137 --> 01:06:15,973
It's three-dimensional chess.
1348
01:06:16,139 --> 01:06:19,267
( folk music playing )
1349
01:06:19,434 --> 01:06:22,229
Narrator:
Chess was not Joe Bruno's game.
1350
01:06:22,396 --> 01:06:24,481
A former boxing champ,
1351
01:06:24,648 --> 01:06:26,900
he knew when to duck,
when to punch back,
1352
01:06:27,067 --> 01:06:29,861
and sometimes
how to fix a fight.
1353
01:06:31,655 --> 01:06:33,156
Yeah.
1354
01:06:33,323 --> 01:06:35,117
Narrator: In the Senate,
he had an annual
1355
01:06:35,283 --> 01:06:37,577
discretionary fund
of $85 million
1356
01:06:37,744 --> 01:06:40,747
to spread around the state
like political fertilizer.
1357
01:06:40,914 --> 01:06:42,082
Yeah.
1358
01:06:42,249 --> 01:06:44,084
Narrator:
By 2007, the FBI
1359
01:06:44,251 --> 01:06:46,920
was investigating him
for corruption.
1360
01:06:47,087 --> 01:06:50,590
Word was that Joe wanted
a graceful way out.
1361
01:06:51,967 --> 01:06:54,428
Bruno:
He told me, repeatedly:
1362
01:06:54,594 --> 01:06:57,055
"We're partners.
We're gonna get things done."
1363
01:06:57,222 --> 01:06:59,224
But he didn't know
how to negotiate,
1364
01:06:59,391 --> 01:07:00,934
he didn't know
how to compromise.
1365
01:07:01,101 --> 01:07:03,937
Narrator: Spitzer attacked
Albany head-on.
1366
01:07:04,104 --> 01:07:06,106
Early, he won
some big victories,
1367
01:07:06,273 --> 01:07:08,358
but to get his
first budget passed,
1368
01:07:08,525 --> 01:07:10,610
he had to play the game
Joe Bruno's way...
1369
01:07:10,777 --> 01:07:14,114
Trading favors
in backroom deals.
1370
01:07:14,281 --> 01:07:16,742
When we did the budget,
when I sat with him...
1371
01:07:16,908 --> 01:07:20,328
This went off, this went off,
this came on, this came on,
1372
01:07:20,495 --> 01:07:24,082
we shook hands, we come...
It got done face to face.
1373
01:07:24,249 --> 01:07:26,501
Frankly, he got criticized
1374
01:07:26,668 --> 01:07:28,670
for caving in to some
of our needs.
1375
01:07:28,837 --> 01:07:31,173
He got panned for that
in the press.
1376
01:07:31,339 --> 01:07:33,800
Narrator: Spitzer responded
by insisting on the very thing
1377
01:07:33,967 --> 01:07:35,761
that Albany pols despised...
1378
01:07:35,927 --> 01:07:38,221
Open, rational debates.
1379
01:07:38,388 --> 01:07:40,390
Thank you to everybody
for being here,
1380
01:07:40,557 --> 01:07:42,893
in what is now,
I think, our fifth
1381
01:07:43,060 --> 01:07:46,188
in what will be
a continuing effort to meet
1382
01:07:46,354 --> 01:07:49,900
to forge consensus on issues,
raise issues, frame an agenda...
1383
01:07:50,067 --> 01:07:53,070
Narrator: Spitzer wanted debates
to be like his father's dinner table.
1384
01:07:53,236 --> 01:07:56,156
But Joe Bruno was the turd
in Eliot's punch bowl.
1385
01:07:56,323 --> 01:07:58,909
But, Governor, I mean, again,
1386
01:07:59,076 --> 01:08:01,870
I say this very respectfully,
1387
01:08:02,037 --> 01:08:04,498
that is nuts!
1388
01:08:04,664 --> 01:08:06,833
( audience laughing )
1389
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:10,629
What he wanted was for you
to just sit there
1390
01:08:10,796 --> 01:08:13,423
like pupils with a teacher,
nod your head
1391
01:08:13,590 --> 01:08:16,593
as he was lecturing you
and pontificating.
1392
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:18,887
Well, government
doesn't work that way.
1393
01:08:19,054 --> 01:08:20,097
You responded...
1394
01:08:20,263 --> 01:08:22,557
Joe, I'm now gonna tell you
something very simple...
1395
01:08:22,724 --> 01:08:25,477
This is my room;
you're not gonna now derail us
1396
01:08:25,644 --> 01:08:28,004
from a conversation about energy,
which we were just having.
1397
01:08:28,105 --> 01:08:29,999
- This has been a useful...
- I thought you'd concluded.
1398
01:08:30,023 --> 01:08:32,275
And I called him several times.
1399
01:08:32,442 --> 01:08:34,611
I said, "What on earth
is the matter with you?"
1400
01:08:34,778 --> 01:08:38,532
You understand that you have
to have the cooperation
1401
01:08:38,698 --> 01:08:41,034
of the legislature, both houses.
1402
01:08:41,201 --> 01:08:44,788
He said, "Well, we're at war.
This is a war."
1403
01:08:44,955 --> 01:08:46,915
And he said it like
a big overgrown kid.
1404
01:08:47,082 --> 01:08:50,127
There'll be... there'll be a few
tackled bodies on the field, so be it.
1405
01:08:50,293 --> 01:08:53,588
He was elected to get
to Albany and turn around
1406
01:08:53,755 --> 01:08:55,590
the 30-year decline
of the state,
1407
01:08:55,757 --> 01:08:57,551
to reform state government
and do something
1408
01:08:57,717 --> 01:09:00,387
about the economy,
which for decades has been like,
1409
01:09:00,554 --> 01:09:03,557
you know, on a slow downward
spiral in New York state.
1410
01:09:03,723 --> 01:09:05,851
He had a temper.
He had this passion.
1411
01:09:06,017 --> 01:09:11,189
It was, when focused
and well-conceived in its execution,
1412
01:09:11,356 --> 01:09:14,568
it's what, you know, the people
wanted to have happen.
1413
01:09:14,734 --> 01:09:17,237
♪ Well,
I'm a steamroller, babe ♪
1414
01:09:18,697 --> 01:09:20,907
♪ I'm bound to roll
all over you... ♪
1415
01:09:23,827 --> 01:09:25,495
Yeah, well, I was told
1416
01:09:25,662 --> 01:09:28,165
that Governor Spitzer
had just gotten off the phone
1417
01:09:28,331 --> 01:09:30,625
with Jim Tedisco,
the Assembly Minority Leader,
1418
01:09:30,792 --> 01:09:32,961
and had said to him,
"You'd better toe the line
1419
01:09:33,128 --> 01:09:35,380
of what I'm trying to do here
or be subjected
1420
01:09:35,547 --> 01:09:37,382
to the governor's wrath,"
1421
01:09:37,549 --> 01:09:40,010
which he had described as being
a "fucking steamroller."
1422
01:09:40,177 --> 01:09:43,346
So James Taylor was on my mind
and he has a famous song.
1423
01:09:43,513 --> 01:09:46,016
It was a throwaway line
honestly meant in good humor
1424
01:09:46,183 --> 01:09:47,184
with Jim Tedisco.
1425
01:09:47,350 --> 01:09:48,661
And frankly, I said,
"You know what?
1426
01:09:48,685 --> 01:09:51,080
We're not trying to be the steamroller."
It was in that context.
1427
01:09:51,104 --> 01:09:53,356
When he said,
"I'm an effing steamroller,"
1428
01:09:53,523 --> 01:09:55,650
I mean he meant it!
1429
01:09:55,817 --> 01:09:58,528
Narrator: He took on his own party
when he bitterly opposed
1430
01:09:58,695 --> 01:10:00,488
their choice for state controller.
1431
01:10:00,655 --> 01:10:02,616
So he had both houses
of the legislature,
1432
01:10:02,782 --> 01:10:05,118
one from his party,
one from the other party
1433
01:10:05,285 --> 01:10:07,245
who are now sitting up
and taking notice
1434
01:10:07,412 --> 01:10:09,915
that whoa, this guy...
This is not a guy
1435
01:10:10,081 --> 01:10:11,583
who plays well with others.
1436
01:10:15,295 --> 01:10:17,130
Democrats would come
into this room and say
1437
01:10:17,297 --> 01:10:18,924
they couldn't stand
the governor.
1438
01:10:19,090 --> 01:10:20,926
Democrats were saying
they loved Joe Bruno,
1439
01:10:21,092 --> 01:10:23,212
the Republican, because he
was taking on the governor.
1440
01:10:23,303 --> 01:10:25,805
A steamroller is no match
for that baby.
1441
01:10:25,972 --> 01:10:27,682
I can tell you that right now.
1442
01:10:29,184 --> 01:10:30,810
( engine revving )
1443
01:10:30,977 --> 01:10:33,688
♪ Now I'm a napalm
bomb, baby ♪
1444
01:10:35,190 --> 01:10:38,485
♪ Just guaranteed
to blow your mind... ♪
1445
01:10:40,862 --> 01:10:42,697
Dopp: Some of those
old-time pols, you know,
1446
01:10:42,864 --> 01:10:45,158
really understood human nature.
1447
01:10:45,325 --> 01:10:47,577
And I think Eliot's
view of it was
1448
01:10:47,744 --> 01:10:49,579
we would force them
to do the right thing,
1449
01:10:49,746 --> 01:10:52,457
but it's not the way
the system is set up.
1450
01:10:52,624 --> 01:10:55,502
Again, I don't want to just say
you're wrong, but you are.
1451
01:10:55,669 --> 01:10:57,212
We...
1452
01:10:57,379 --> 01:11:00,006
Dopp: I'd say to him,
"Boss, this system is set up
1453
01:11:00,173 --> 01:11:02,550
so that only incremental
change is possible."
1454
01:11:02,717 --> 01:11:04,477
And he'd be like,
"God damn it, no it's not."
1455
01:11:04,636 --> 01:11:07,973
And the result that it produced
is he began to go around
1456
01:11:08,139 --> 01:11:11,017
Mr. Bruno to specific members
of the State Senate.
1457
01:11:11,184 --> 01:11:14,980
Mr. Bruno took that to be an act
of, you know, a hostile act.
1458
01:11:16,690 --> 01:11:19,484
He quickly announced publicly
1459
01:11:19,651 --> 01:11:21,111
he's going to take me
out as leader.
1460
01:11:21,278 --> 01:11:22,946
I'm history
1461
01:11:23,113 --> 01:11:26,241
and the Republican majority
was going to cease to exist.
1462
01:11:26,408 --> 01:11:27,909
He was going to take us out.
1463
01:11:30,036 --> 01:11:31,913
I said something like,
"You know,
1464
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,708
I've been threatened by hoods
and thugs my whole life.
1465
01:11:34,874 --> 01:11:36,126
You're just an amateur.
1466
01:11:36,293 --> 01:11:39,546
If you think you're gonna
bother me, you just don't."
1467
01:11:46,344 --> 01:11:48,805
Dopp: We knew that folks
would come down hard on us
1468
01:11:48,972 --> 01:11:51,391
if we ever stumbled.
1469
01:11:51,558 --> 01:11:54,227
He said, "You're damn right.
1470
01:11:54,394 --> 01:11:56,604
If we ever fall,
they'll kick us in the nuts."
1471
01:11:56,771 --> 01:12:00,608
Which is why the downfall
was so shocking.
1472
01:12:03,570 --> 01:12:06,406
Interviewer: Did it begin to haunt you
as something that you thought
1473
01:12:06,573 --> 01:12:08,333
was possible, that you were
gonna get caught?
1474
01:12:08,366 --> 01:12:10,035
Or did you... that didn't even...
1475
01:12:10,201 --> 01:12:12,013
At a certain point,
that didn't even occur to you?
1476
01:12:12,037 --> 01:12:14,164
No, of course it does.
1477
01:12:14,331 --> 01:12:16,916
Of course it does.
1478
01:12:17,083 --> 01:12:19,336
And you just deal with it.
1479
01:12:19,502 --> 01:12:22,422
How did you deal with it?
1480
01:12:22,589 --> 01:12:24,424
That's the one...
1481
01:12:24,591 --> 01:12:26,843
Those are the mysteries
of the human mind, I suppose.
1482
01:12:27,010 --> 01:12:29,179
I... I don't think I can
answer that question,
1483
01:12:29,346 --> 01:12:31,931
because I don't think I know.
1484
01:12:47,739 --> 01:12:49,949
"Angelina":
I got a call months later.
1485
01:12:50,116 --> 01:12:53,578
And this... this was kind
of a last-minute thing.
1486
01:12:53,745 --> 01:12:56,831
This was at the Waldorf Hotel.
1487
01:12:58,792 --> 01:13:01,920
He showed up
with this baseball cap on,
1488
01:13:02,087 --> 01:13:04,923
like, clearly trying
not to be recognized.
1489
01:13:05,090 --> 01:13:09,052
And I'm like, you know,
"Don't tell me it's that guy again."
1490
01:13:13,348 --> 01:13:16,309
In that second meeting, you know,
I was rather pushy with him.
1491
01:13:16,476 --> 01:13:20,355
I was like, "We're gonna sit
and have a chit-chat
1492
01:13:20,522 --> 01:13:23,233
and have a nice
little date here."
1493
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:28,029
And it ended up being
a fun couple of hours.
1494
01:13:28,196 --> 01:13:30,115
I thought it was Eliot Spitzer,
1495
01:13:30,281 --> 01:13:33,201
you know, but I couldn't
be absolutely sure.
1496
01:13:33,368 --> 01:13:36,037
So I made a point to look out
for him in the papers.
1497
01:13:36,204 --> 01:13:39,833
And it was at that point that I said
to the people who ran the agency,
1498
01:13:39,999 --> 01:13:42,836
"You know who this guy is,
don't you?"
1499
01:13:43,002 --> 01:13:44,921
And they said no.
1500
01:13:45,088 --> 01:13:46,506
He was hiding.
1501
01:13:46,673 --> 01:13:48,550
He didn't want anyone
to know who he was.
1502
01:13:48,716 --> 01:13:50,301
He was extremely paranoid.
1503
01:13:50,468 --> 01:13:54,347
He knew that his entire
political career was on the line.
1504
01:13:54,514 --> 01:13:57,350
And ultimately vice
just took over virtue.
1505
01:13:57,517 --> 01:13:59,060
He could not control himself.
1506
01:13:59,227 --> 01:14:01,062
I don't know,
I just remember one time
1507
01:14:01,229 --> 01:14:03,273
he was trying to book
an appointment.
1508
01:14:03,440 --> 01:14:05,150
And I just remember
thinking to myself,
1509
01:14:05,316 --> 01:14:07,569
I was like, "This man
is so paranoid.
1510
01:14:07,735 --> 01:14:10,697
He's just going
to attract a situation."
1511
01:14:10,864 --> 01:14:13,116
You know, because he was
just asking for it.
1512
01:14:13,283 --> 01:14:15,368
It's like, "Listen, man,
if you are so worried
1513
01:14:15,535 --> 01:14:17,370
about what you're doing,
don't do it."
1514
01:14:17,537 --> 01:14:21,082
I mean, just getting a deposit
from him was an issue.
1515
01:14:21,249 --> 01:14:23,084
In order to book
an appointment out of town,
1516
01:14:23,251 --> 01:14:24,794
you had to pay upfront.
1517
01:14:24,961 --> 01:14:28,548
So he would have to go through
sending these money orders in.
1518
01:14:28,715 --> 01:14:31,134
We're like, "Okay, why don't
you just deposit 'X' amount
1519
01:14:31,301 --> 01:14:33,261
in the bank if you want
to meet her by tomorrow
1520
01:14:33,428 --> 01:14:35,555
and we're not gonna receive
payment by tomorrow."
1521
01:14:35,722 --> 01:14:37,282
And he's like,
"I can't go to the bank."
1522
01:14:37,432 --> 01:14:40,226
I never acknowledged who he was,
1523
01:14:40,393 --> 01:14:43,104
but he... he knew that I knew.
1524
01:14:43,271 --> 01:14:45,231
He started to request me.
1525
01:14:45,398 --> 01:14:47,233
I saw him outside of New York,
1526
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,612
in Palm Beach, Puerto Rico,
1527
01:14:50,778 --> 01:14:53,907
Dallas, Washington.
1528
01:14:54,073 --> 01:14:56,910
He was always very guarded
about what he would say.
1529
01:14:57,076 --> 01:14:59,245
And... I mean, I would insist
1530
01:14:59,412 --> 01:15:01,581
on having a conversation
before we started.
1531
01:15:01,748 --> 01:15:04,459
I'm like... I'm totally
taking advantage of this.
1532
01:15:04,626 --> 01:15:07,754
'Cause he's so smart
and interesting.
1533
01:15:07,921 --> 01:15:09,839
I would, like,
have my little rants
1534
01:15:10,006 --> 01:15:13,134
about what was wrong with New
York City that needed to be fixed.
1535
01:15:13,301 --> 01:15:16,429
And he... he listened.
1536
01:15:19,933 --> 01:15:21,809
Bruno: When I saw him
out with his wife,
1537
01:15:21,976 --> 01:15:23,937
with his children,
he had it all together.
1538
01:15:24,103 --> 01:15:27,315
You know, what was strange
with Eliot Spitzer
1539
01:15:27,482 --> 01:15:31,319
was he could be pleasant
and charming and act very caring.
1540
01:15:31,486 --> 01:15:33,988
When my wife was reported
as being seriously ill,
1541
01:15:34,155 --> 01:15:35,949
he called me several times.
1542
01:15:36,115 --> 01:15:39,869
And this is right in the height
of some of our worst exchanges...
1543
01:15:40,036 --> 01:15:42,247
Couldn't have been
any more pleasant.
1544
01:15:42,413 --> 01:15:46,960
But when he came after me,
in what was called Troopergate,
1545
01:15:47,126 --> 01:15:51,714
then it was apparent that this
man really intended to destroy me.
1546
01:15:51,881 --> 01:15:53,925
Narrator:
In the Spitzer-Bruno war,
1547
01:15:54,092 --> 01:15:56,094
the biggest battle
was Troopergate,
1548
01:15:56,261 --> 01:15:58,263
so-called because
of the way state troopers
1549
01:15:58,429 --> 01:16:01,558
may have been misused
for political purposes.
1550
01:16:01,724 --> 01:16:05,186
It was an attack on Bruno
that would boomerang on Spitzer.
1551
01:16:05,353 --> 01:16:07,981
It was a Sunday and I was
reading the local newspaper,
1552
01:16:08,147 --> 01:16:09,232
the Albany "Times Union."
1553
01:16:09,399 --> 01:16:11,025
And there was a story
on the front page
1554
01:16:11,192 --> 01:16:14,195
and the suggestion was
that Bruno had misused
1555
01:16:14,362 --> 01:16:16,739
state helicopters
and other state travel
1556
01:16:16,906 --> 01:16:19,200
for personal
and political purposes.
1557
01:16:19,367 --> 01:16:22,537
We released public documents
on use of the aircraft.
1558
01:16:22,704 --> 01:16:25,415
It turned into a story,
a one-day story.
1559
01:16:25,582 --> 01:16:28,418
But in a brilliant, I think,
communications move
1560
01:16:28,585 --> 01:16:31,004
by Mr. Bruno's people,
it was portrayed as,
1561
01:16:31,170 --> 01:16:33,590
"Oh, those are records
that aren't normally released.
1562
01:16:33,756 --> 01:16:36,384
Oh, there's spying going on.
There's dirty tricks going on."
1563
01:16:36,551 --> 01:16:39,679
The allegations
are that the executive
1564
01:16:39,846 --> 01:16:44,350
conspired to use the state police,
1565
01:16:44,517 --> 01:16:48,229
state resources,
to literally spy
1566
01:16:48,396 --> 01:16:51,232
on a colleague in government.
1567
01:16:51,399 --> 01:16:54,068
I was told, "No, don't comment.
Don't... don't respond."
1568
01:16:54,235 --> 01:16:56,529
And I kept saying,
"We've got to respond.
1569
01:16:56,696 --> 01:16:59,449
We're losing badly in
the public-relations capacity
1570
01:16:59,616 --> 01:17:01,534
by not standing up and saying
how ridiculous
1571
01:17:01,701 --> 01:17:03,161
these allegations are."
1572
01:17:03,328 --> 01:17:04,972
Why wouldn't he answer
questions under oath?
1573
01:17:04,996 --> 01:17:05,997
Because of...
1574
01:17:06,164 --> 01:17:07,683
What's the explanation
for that, Governor?
1575
01:17:07,707 --> 01:17:08,708
Fred, I...
1576
01:17:08,875 --> 01:17:10,644
And was it on the advice
of counsel in your agency?
1577
01:17:10,668 --> 01:17:11,854
- Fred...
- In the executive chamber?
1578
01:17:11,878 --> 01:17:13,004
Was he advised not to do it?
1579
01:17:13,171 --> 01:17:15,548
Fred... Fred, I'm...
As I've said very clearly,
1580
01:17:15,715 --> 01:17:17,943
the investigation was one
where they asked for information...
1581
01:17:17,967 --> 01:17:19,695
- You keep changing the subject.
- I'm not changing...
1582
01:17:19,719 --> 01:17:20,720
The question is why...
1583
01:17:20,887 --> 01:17:22,740
Okay, Fred, I've answered
the question. Yes, Josh.
1584
01:17:22,764 --> 01:17:24,564
Dicker: It was a very intense
press conference
1585
01:17:24,641 --> 01:17:26,761
where Spitzer was trying
to claim he had nothing to do
1586
01:17:26,893 --> 01:17:29,145
with Troopergate and he hardly
knew anything about it.
1587
01:17:29,312 --> 01:17:31,397
Narrator: Spitzer insisted
the leak had been
1588
01:17:31,564 --> 01:17:33,524
Darren Dopp's idea
and suspended him.
1589
01:17:33,691 --> 01:17:36,027
But in fact, he had told
Dopp to release the records
1590
01:17:36,194 --> 01:17:38,821
about Bruno and suggested how.
1591
01:17:38,988 --> 01:17:40,990
The famous quote
that you're referring to is,
1592
01:17:41,157 --> 01:17:43,618
"Shove it up his ass
with a red-hot poker."
1593
01:17:43,785 --> 01:17:46,329
Narrator: Investigations
engulfed Spitzer's office
1594
01:17:46,496 --> 01:17:49,916
and created the public perception
that he'd abused his power.
1595
01:17:50,083 --> 01:17:52,460
In reality, the controversy
was a smokescreen
1596
01:17:52,627 --> 01:17:54,337
that hid Bruno's corruption.
1597
01:17:54,504 --> 01:17:57,507
The guy Bruno was going
to basically fundraisers
1598
01:17:57,674 --> 01:17:59,967
and then, you know, making sure
he made a two-second call
1599
01:18:00,134 --> 01:18:02,178
to, you know, some guy
in the electricians' union
1600
01:18:02,345 --> 01:18:04,764
so he could say, "No, this was,
you know, state business."
1601
01:18:04,931 --> 01:18:08,559
As far as I'm concerned,
it's a complete fraud and a hoax,
1602
01:18:08,726 --> 01:18:13,272
you know, with one of the most
corrupt state capitals.
1603
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,317
"We're investigating
whether or not
1604
01:18:16,484 --> 01:18:19,404
there was a leak to a reporter.
Oh my God!
1605
01:18:19,570 --> 01:18:21,948
A crime
has been committed!"
1606
01:18:22,115 --> 01:18:24,617
You know, it's the most...
The biggest joke.
1607
01:18:26,703 --> 01:18:29,288
Narrator: A careful examination
of Bruno's travel logs
1608
01:18:29,455 --> 01:18:31,666
revealed that state troopers
had ferried Bruno
1609
01:18:31,833 --> 01:18:34,961
on extended visits to see
Spitzer's political enemies,
1610
01:18:35,128 --> 01:18:39,507
including a trip to CV Starr,
the office of Hank Greenberg.
1611
01:18:41,718 --> 01:18:44,554
Interviewer: Do you recall
Senator Joe Bruno coming to see you?
1612
01:18:44,721 --> 01:18:47,348
Yeah, Joe Bruno would come
from time to time to see me.
1613
01:18:47,515 --> 01:18:49,267
They're always trying
to raise money.
1614
01:18:49,434 --> 01:18:51,686
When he came,
did you talk Spitzer?
1615
01:18:51,853 --> 01:18:53,312
I don't recall.
1616
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:55,940
I don't think that...
If we did, it wasn't...
1617
01:18:56,107 --> 01:19:00,027
It wasn't a major topic
of our conversation.
1618
01:19:01,487 --> 01:19:03,740
Narrator: Spitzer's enemies
were beginning
1619
01:19:03,906 --> 01:19:05,366
to talk to each other.
1620
01:19:05,533 --> 01:19:07,702
To push the attack on Spitzer,
1621
01:19:07,869 --> 01:19:10,246
Joe Bruno hired
a political operative
1622
01:19:10,413 --> 01:19:12,081
who reveled in his reputation
1623
01:19:12,248 --> 01:19:17,170
as the country's most notorious
dirty trickster, Roger Stone.
1624
01:19:17,336 --> 01:19:20,173
Here you have Mr. Clean,
the Sheriff of Wall Street,
1625
01:19:20,339 --> 01:19:23,426
someone for whom ethics
is his signature issue
1626
01:19:23,593 --> 01:19:28,139
charging that Bruno is...
is dirty.
1627
01:19:28,306 --> 01:19:30,725
This is a tyrant,
a megalomaniac,
1628
01:19:30,892 --> 01:19:33,227
a would-be dictator who really
believes that you...
1629
01:19:33,394 --> 01:19:35,521
In government, you somehow
either have the right,
1630
01:19:35,688 --> 01:19:37,940
by getting a lot of votes
or being born to privilege,
1631
01:19:38,107 --> 01:19:41,694
to just issue orders
and people do what you say.
1632
01:19:41,861 --> 01:19:44,530
Stone was this, like,
legendary figure.
1633
01:19:44,697 --> 01:19:47,909
He had his hair dyed.
1634
01:19:48,075 --> 01:19:50,495
He was a "swinger,"
in literal terms.
1635
01:19:50,661 --> 01:19:52,747
And the reporters,
they were like...
1636
01:19:52,914 --> 01:19:54,791
They thought of him
as like a piece of work.
1637
01:19:54,957 --> 01:19:57,502
But they had, like,
affection for him,
1638
01:19:57,668 --> 01:19:59,670
because he didn't make
any bones about the fact
1639
01:19:59,837 --> 01:20:02,465
that he was such
a flawed character.
1640
01:20:02,632 --> 01:20:04,717
Even in his own
Republican ranks,
1641
01:20:04,884 --> 01:20:07,720
he was like, regarded
as, like, a maverick,
1642
01:20:07,887 --> 01:20:10,640
if not gadfly, if not lunatic.
1643
01:20:10,807 --> 01:20:14,268
But crazy-like-a-fox
kind of a guy, I guess.
1644
01:20:14,435 --> 01:20:16,646
Sure, I believe in a gonzo
brand of politics,
1645
01:20:16,813 --> 01:20:19,607
because you have to get...
You've gotta get people's attention.
1646
01:20:19,774 --> 01:20:21,818
In a world where there's
so much competition
1647
01:20:21,984 --> 01:20:23,653
for their attention politically,
1648
01:20:23,820 --> 01:20:25,613
and then there's
the rest of life:
1649
01:20:25,780 --> 01:20:28,282
sports, food, entertainment,
whatever it is.
1650
01:20:28,449 --> 01:20:30,868
You're competing for all
of that, because politics,
1651
01:20:31,035 --> 01:20:33,579
like all those other things,
is entertainment.
1652
01:20:33,746 --> 01:20:36,415
Narrator:
In 1996, Stone was fired
1653
01:20:36,582 --> 01:20:38,292
from the Dole
presidential campaign
1654
01:20:38,459 --> 01:20:40,294
when it was revealed
that he and his wife
1655
01:20:40,461 --> 01:20:42,713
had marketed themselves
as swingers.
1656
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:45,633
"We are seeking similar
couples," said the ad,
1657
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:48,970
"or exceptional muscular,
well-hung single men."
1658
01:20:49,136 --> 01:20:52,223
But that didn't stop Roger.
1659
01:20:52,390 --> 01:20:54,976
An elegant dresser
with a taste for martinis,
1660
01:20:55,142 --> 01:20:57,895
he reinvented himself
as a charming secret agent
1661
01:20:58,062 --> 01:21:00,356
with a license to kill.
1662
01:21:00,523 --> 01:21:03,693
He reveled in the body politic
and his own bodybuilding.
1663
01:21:03,860 --> 01:21:05,444
Just below his neckline,
1664
01:21:05,611 --> 01:21:09,115
he bore a tattoo of his hero
Richard Nixon.
1665
01:21:09,282 --> 01:21:11,242
Just a few weeks
after Bruno hired Stone...
1666
01:21:11,409 --> 01:21:12,410
( phone ringing )
1667
01:21:12,577 --> 01:21:14,745
...a mysterious voice message
was left on the phone
1668
01:21:14,912 --> 01:21:17,164
of Spitzer's 80-year-old father.
1669
01:21:17,331 --> 01:21:18,332
( beeps )
1670
01:21:18,499 --> 01:21:20,376
Man: This is a message
for Bernard Spitzer.
1671
01:21:20,543 --> 01:21:23,754
You will be subpoenaed to testify
1672
01:21:23,921 --> 01:21:26,257
before the Senate Committee
on Investigations
1673
01:21:26,424 --> 01:21:28,467
on your shady campaign loans.
1674
01:21:28,634 --> 01:21:30,428
If you resist the subpoena,
1675
01:21:30,595 --> 01:21:32,805
you will be arrested
and brought to Albany.
1676
01:21:32,972 --> 01:21:35,391
And there's not a goddamned
thing your phony,
1677
01:21:35,558 --> 01:21:38,060
psycho, piece-of-shit son
1678
01:21:38,227 --> 01:21:39,896
can do about it.
1679
01:21:40,062 --> 01:21:43,149
Bernie, your phony loans
are about to catch up with you.
1680
01:21:43,316 --> 01:21:45,568
You will be forced
to tell the truth,
1681
01:21:45,735 --> 01:21:48,529
and the fact that
your son's a pathological liar
1682
01:21:48,696 --> 01:21:51,574
- will be known to all.
- ( clicks, beeps )
1683
01:21:51,741 --> 01:21:54,827
We spent some time and effort
to see where it came from,
1684
01:21:54,994 --> 01:21:57,121
and it came from an apartment
that had been rented
1685
01:21:57,288 --> 01:21:59,916
by either him or a company
that he owned.
1686
01:22:00,082 --> 01:22:03,127
And the voice, we were able
to compare from the voice...
1687
01:22:03,294 --> 01:22:05,838
The message he'd left
on the voicemail...
1688
01:22:06,005 --> 01:22:08,215
To appearances
he had made on TV,
1689
01:22:08,382 --> 01:22:10,444
and we got a voice analyst to
say, "Yeah, it's the same voice."
1690
01:22:10,468 --> 01:22:12,905
And people who knew him said,
"Yeah, that's Roger Stone's voice."
1691
01:22:12,929 --> 01:22:15,014
The tape did sound
eerily like me.
1692
01:22:15,181 --> 01:22:18,976
Ultimately, private investigators
that I retained
1693
01:22:19,143 --> 01:22:21,479
determined that there
had been a tap on my phone
1694
01:22:21,646 --> 01:22:23,105
at 40 Central Park South.
1695
01:22:23,272 --> 01:22:26,025
I now believe that a rogue unit
of the New York State Police,
1696
01:22:26,192 --> 01:22:28,694
under the direction
of Eliot Spitzer,
1697
01:22:28,861 --> 01:22:31,864
who understood that we had
jujitsu-ed him on Troopergate,
1698
01:22:32,031 --> 01:22:34,075
was monitoring my calls.
In other words,
1699
01:22:34,241 --> 01:22:36,535
I think the tape
that was released was...
1700
01:22:36,702 --> 01:22:39,372
Was pasted together.
It was a... it was a...
1701
01:22:39,538 --> 01:22:41,582
It was a put-up job.
1702
01:22:41,749 --> 01:22:45,836
The FBI called my dad's office
1703
01:22:46,003 --> 01:22:47,964
and asked to come by.
1704
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:52,051
Narrator:
On September 6th, 2007,
1705
01:22:52,218 --> 01:22:54,053
Agent Katzman from the FBI
1706
01:22:54,220 --> 01:22:57,390
visited Bernard Spitzer
at his Manhattan offices.
1707
01:22:57,556 --> 01:23:00,977
The questions didn't focus much
1708
01:23:01,143 --> 01:23:04,814
on what Roger Stone had done
or allegedly done
1709
01:23:04,981 --> 01:23:07,900
or the issues relating
to the phone call.
1710
01:23:08,067 --> 01:23:09,777
It was more about me.
1711
01:23:09,944 --> 01:23:12,488
Did you think anything
about that in retrospect?
1712
01:23:12,655 --> 01:23:14,949
Well, in retrospect,
I... it has crossed my mind.
1713
01:23:15,116 --> 01:23:17,827
And it crossed your mind
in what way, since then?
1714
01:23:17,994 --> 01:23:20,162
Well, wondering whether
1715
01:23:20,329 --> 01:23:23,374
this was part of the investigation
that led to my downfall.
1716
01:23:29,505 --> 01:23:33,467
The FBI showed up
at my apartment.
1717
01:23:33,634 --> 01:23:36,012
They just showed up at 8:00 a.m.
1718
01:23:36,178 --> 01:23:38,305
And they said,
"We want to talk to you.
1719
01:23:38,472 --> 01:23:40,725
We think you know
what this is about."
1720
01:23:40,891 --> 01:23:45,062
Agent... Agent Katzman
was the guy's name.
1721
01:23:45,229 --> 01:23:47,940
He... he wasn't very nice.
1722
01:23:48,107 --> 01:23:51,277
Narrator: Stone said that the FBI
also contacted him
1723
01:23:51,444 --> 01:23:53,362
and wanted to talk.
1724
01:23:53,529 --> 01:23:55,573
Stone: We could never
actually get a confirmation
1725
01:23:55,740 --> 01:23:57,658
about what they wanted
to talk about.
1726
01:23:57,825 --> 01:24:01,162
And I declined to have that interview
on the advice of my attorney.
1727
01:24:01,328 --> 01:24:05,166
Narrator: Bruno fired Stone
because of the phone call.
1728
01:24:05,332 --> 01:24:07,668
But Stone confirms
that he was then hired
1729
01:24:07,835 --> 01:24:09,879
by wealthy,
motivated Republicans
1730
01:24:10,046 --> 01:24:12,798
to stay on the Spitzer detail.
1731
01:24:12,965 --> 01:24:16,302
A few months later Rich Baum,
secretary to the governor,
1732
01:24:16,469 --> 01:24:19,138
received an email from Stone's
consulting company.
1733
01:24:22,516 --> 01:24:23,934
The question is
1734
01:24:24,101 --> 01:24:26,604
how did the investigation
of Spitzer begin?
1735
01:24:26,771 --> 01:24:28,981
The government claims it spotted
1736
01:24:29,148 --> 01:24:32,485
a suspicious wire transfer
of several thousand dollars.
1737
01:24:32,651 --> 01:24:35,738
What was interesting to me
is that the whole thing
1738
01:24:35,905 --> 01:24:37,948
comes from a single
money transfer
1739
01:24:38,115 --> 01:24:40,743
that sort of sent up a red flag,
1740
01:24:40,910 --> 01:24:43,162
a suspicious activity report.
1741
01:24:43,329 --> 01:24:46,665
Every day there are thousands
of these suckers filed.
1742
01:24:46,832 --> 01:24:50,461
Narrator: The Federal Clearinghouse
receives 3400
1743
01:24:50,628 --> 01:24:54,381
suspicious activity reports,
or SARS, every day.
1744
01:24:54,548 --> 01:24:57,343
Someone had to have taken
1745
01:24:57,510 --> 01:25:01,305
a very personal interest
in this particular transaction
1746
01:25:01,472 --> 01:25:04,141
and kind of shepherded it
through the process
1747
01:25:04,308 --> 01:25:06,685
in order for it to be the subject
of a lot of attention
1748
01:25:06,852 --> 01:25:09,897
and ultimately be
the basis for a case.
1749
01:25:10,064 --> 01:25:12,691
Narrator: The SAR was filed
by North Fork Bank
1750
01:25:12,858 --> 01:25:15,486
after Spitzer asked the bank
to keep his name off
1751
01:25:15,653 --> 01:25:20,366
a $5,000 wire to something
called QAT Consulting.
1752
01:25:20,533 --> 01:25:22,576
Barrett:
My understanding is that
1753
01:25:22,743 --> 01:25:25,538
they didn't even know
what QAT Consulting was
1754
01:25:25,704 --> 01:25:27,790
and that they called
Morgenthau's office.
1755
01:25:27,957 --> 01:25:30,751
Narrator: Robert Morgenthau,
the Manhattan District Attorney,
1756
01:25:30,918 --> 01:25:32,878
was surprised when
the federal government
1757
01:25:33,045 --> 01:25:36,006
came looking for help on how
to prosecute escort services.
1758
01:25:36,173 --> 01:25:39,135
The feds just didn't do
prostitution cases.
1759
01:25:39,301 --> 01:25:40,803
They also naively asked
1760
01:25:40,970 --> 01:25:43,389
if it was common
to prosecute customers.
1761
01:25:43,556 --> 01:25:46,475
The answer from
Morgenthau's office was no.
1762
01:25:46,642 --> 01:25:49,728
Barrett: Once they figured out
it was a prostitution ring,
1763
01:25:49,895 --> 01:25:52,940
then it seems to me you're
at a juncture in the road here.
1764
01:25:53,107 --> 01:25:54,567
Once you realize
1765
01:25:54,733 --> 01:25:58,279
that it's just a governor
with a hard-on,
1766
01:25:58,445 --> 01:26:00,322
the most you're gonna
get out of this
1767
01:26:00,489 --> 01:26:02,408
is a news story
and a resignation.
1768
01:26:02,575 --> 01:26:04,743
I think the government
has better things to do.
1769
01:26:04,910 --> 01:26:07,913
Narrator: The US Attorney
for the Southern District of New York
1770
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:10,624
was Michael Garcia, the man
who had tangled with Spitzer
1771
01:26:10,791 --> 01:26:13,294
over the investigation
of Hank Greenberg.
1772
01:26:13,460 --> 01:26:16,964
Normally focused on terrorists,
mobsters and Wall Street,
1773
01:26:17,131 --> 01:26:20,342
Garcia's office was suddenly
spending enormous resources
1774
01:26:20,509 --> 01:26:22,928
to go after a small
escort service.
1775
01:26:23,095 --> 01:26:25,055
Garcia was a Republican.
1776
01:26:25,222 --> 01:26:27,141
Was this a political hit?
1777
01:26:27,308 --> 01:26:29,727
The Spitzer investigation
began at the very moment
1778
01:26:29,894 --> 01:26:31,413
when the Justice Department
was involved
1779
01:26:31,437 --> 01:26:32,771
in a huge scandal of its own.
1780
01:26:32,938 --> 01:26:35,274
And the issue was whether
the Justice Department
1781
01:26:35,441 --> 01:26:38,611
was hiring and firing US Attorneys
based on politics,
1782
01:26:38,777 --> 01:26:41,113
and whether it was going after
powerful Democrats
1783
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:42,698
in order to get rid of them.
1784
01:26:42,865 --> 01:26:45,576
The only banking activity
that seemed to interest them
1785
01:26:45,743 --> 01:26:47,995
was Eliot Spitzer's
banking activity, you know,
1786
01:26:48,162 --> 01:26:51,665
as we sunk deeper and deeper
1787
01:26:51,832 --> 01:26:54,501
into this horrendous
banking scandal
1788
01:26:54,668 --> 01:26:56,795
that's convulsing the country.
1789
01:26:56,962 --> 01:26:59,715
Suspicious banking activity
by Eliot Spitzer
1790
01:26:59,882 --> 01:27:03,344
and the United States
government was on the trail.
1791
01:27:05,012 --> 01:27:07,556
Narrator: After notifying
superiors in Washington,
1792
01:27:07,723 --> 01:27:10,059
the US Attorney's office
obtained permission
1793
01:27:10,226 --> 01:27:13,270
to wiretap the phones and emails
of The Emperors Club.
1794
01:27:21,904 --> 01:27:24,156
The night before,
it's like 8:00 p.m.
1795
01:27:24,323 --> 01:27:26,116
We're both sitting
at our computers.
1796
01:27:26,283 --> 01:27:28,827
And all of this information,
like our client information,
1797
01:27:28,994 --> 01:27:30,955
is being sucked out
of the computers.
1798
01:27:31,121 --> 01:27:33,249
And we're like, "Oh my goodness,
we have hackers."
1799
01:27:33,415 --> 01:27:37,419
We download some kinda,
like, encryption software,
1800
01:27:37,586 --> 01:27:40,589
and try to, like, save our
information, whatever is left.
1801
01:27:40,756 --> 01:27:43,092
And then we go to bed as usual.
1802
01:27:43,259 --> 01:27:46,178
And 6:30 a.m...
Bang bang bang.
1803
01:27:46,345 --> 01:27:48,514
It's the FBI.
1804
01:27:48,681 --> 01:27:50,766
Okay, shock.
1805
01:27:50,933 --> 01:27:52,309
( knock on door )
1806
01:27:54,853 --> 01:27:56,689
Suwal:
I was certainly unprepared
1807
01:27:56,855 --> 01:27:59,400
to just be woken up
out of my sleep
1808
01:27:59,566 --> 01:28:02,945
at 6:30 a.m. and, you know,
have the FBI come
1809
01:28:03,112 --> 01:28:05,072
in their bulletproof vests
1810
01:28:05,239 --> 01:28:07,616
asking me if there are
firearms in the house.
1811
01:28:07,783 --> 01:28:09,623
You know, I mean, just...
And all I'm thinking,
1812
01:28:09,702 --> 01:28:13,122
I'm like, "That cash is gonna
get us in trouble."
1813
01:28:13,289 --> 01:28:17,251
Narrator: Cece and Mark Brener
had nearly a million dollars
1814
01:28:17,418 --> 01:28:21,130
in cash in a safe in their closet.
1815
01:28:22,172 --> 01:28:24,049
The guy came in,
one of the FBI men.
1816
01:28:24,216 --> 01:28:26,051
He came in and he was like,
1817
01:28:26,218 --> 01:28:28,762
"We are closing
Emperors Club VIP."
1818
01:28:28,929 --> 01:28:31,932
And I was like, "Oh oh!
1819
01:28:32,099 --> 01:28:35,853
My God, my stomach,
my everything, my baby."
1820
01:28:36,020 --> 01:28:38,314
It was just surreal.
1821
01:28:38,480 --> 01:28:41,900
I mean, that was like my child.
1822
01:28:42,067 --> 01:28:45,404
The essence of what
went on here was,
1823
01:28:45,571 --> 01:28:49,283
in federal-law terms,
a violation of the Mann Act.
1824
01:28:50,576 --> 01:28:52,911
Narrator:
Known as the "white slave act,"
1825
01:28:53,078 --> 01:28:55,289
the Mann Act made it a crime
to transport women
1826
01:28:55,456 --> 01:28:57,583
across state lines
for immoral purposes.
1827
01:28:57,750 --> 01:29:01,503
That is why federal prosecutors
were particularly interested
1828
01:29:01,670 --> 01:29:05,299
in out-of-town dates
with "Angelina" and Ashley.
1829
01:29:05,466 --> 01:29:08,927
In recent years, it's used to go after
child-prostitution rings.
1830
01:29:09,094 --> 01:29:12,848
It is never used to prosecute
johns or customers.
1831
01:29:13,015 --> 01:29:15,184
Scott Horton: We have to look
at these statutes
1832
01:29:15,351 --> 01:29:17,561
in terms of standards
of enforcement.
1833
01:29:17,728 --> 01:29:20,898
Is this statute in fact
being enforced that way
1834
01:29:21,065 --> 01:29:22,858
uniformly across the country?
1835
01:29:23,025 --> 01:29:24,818
And the answer is it is not!
1836
01:29:24,985 --> 01:29:28,655
Narrator: Why then did the Department
of Justice want the case?
1837
01:29:28,822 --> 01:29:31,158
After months
of investigating Spitzer,
1838
01:29:31,325 --> 01:29:33,786
Michael Garcia's deputies
suddenly sent emails
1839
01:29:33,952 --> 01:29:36,997
to Washington seeking support
for using the Mann Act.
1840
01:29:37,164 --> 01:29:39,291
Wiretaps revealed many customers
1841
01:29:39,458 --> 01:29:41,710
who paid for escorts
all over the world.
1842
01:29:41,877 --> 01:29:44,463
But Garcia's office
was only interested
1843
01:29:44,630 --> 01:29:47,216
in prosecuting one
of the customers.
1844
01:29:47,383 --> 01:29:50,386
They pressured me...
Like they do on TV.
1845
01:29:50,552 --> 01:29:53,472
And they said, "We know
you worked for this agency
1846
01:29:53,639 --> 01:29:55,766
and we want you
to look at some pictures
1847
01:29:55,933 --> 01:29:58,310
and tell us if you
recognize anyone."
1848
01:29:58,477 --> 01:30:00,187
And I did that
1849
01:30:00,354 --> 01:30:02,189
and Eliot Spitzer was in there.
1850
01:30:02,356 --> 01:30:06,735
And I said yes, I recognized
him and yes, I had seen him.
1851
01:30:06,902 --> 01:30:10,531
And I said, "Should I maybe
have a lawyer?"
1852
01:30:10,697 --> 01:30:13,534
And they said, "Well, we want
to keep this confidential."
1853
01:30:13,700 --> 01:30:16,829
The main thing
about that meeting
1854
01:30:16,995 --> 01:30:19,164
was that they were
very insistent
1855
01:30:19,331 --> 01:30:22,042
and pressuring me
in an uncomfortable way,
1856
01:30:22,209 --> 01:30:26,839
you know, for me to admit
that I had sex with Eliot Spitzer.
1857
01:30:28,006 --> 01:30:30,759
You know, why him
and why not anyone else?
1858
01:30:30,926 --> 01:30:33,679
All you have to do is
lay this case side by side
1859
01:30:33,846 --> 01:30:36,348
with the DC Madam case
and look at the way
1860
01:30:36,515 --> 01:30:38,183
the prosecutors behaved
in Washington
1861
01:30:38,350 --> 01:30:40,310
and the way they
behaved in New York.
1862
01:30:40,477 --> 01:30:42,729
And it's like night and day.
1863
01:30:42,896 --> 01:30:44,690
They're constantly
making clear that,
1864
01:30:44,857 --> 01:30:49,111
"No, we're just after the madam
and we're after the business.
1865
01:30:49,278 --> 01:30:53,198
We are not interested
in the customers."
1866
01:30:53,365 --> 01:30:56,535
Narrator: In the DC Madam case,
two high-profile Republicans
1867
01:30:56,702 --> 01:30:59,997
were discovered using an escort service
in Washington DC.
1868
01:31:00,164 --> 01:31:03,000
Senator David Vitter had actually ordered
prostitutes
1869
01:31:03,167 --> 01:31:05,669
during roll-call votes
when he was a congressman.
1870
01:31:05,836 --> 01:31:09,006
He apologized,
but he did not resign.
1871
01:31:09,173 --> 01:31:11,967
Horton: David Vitter is still sitting
in the Senate. He never left.
1872
01:31:12,134 --> 01:31:14,386
Nor was there ever
any pressure brought
1873
01:31:14,553 --> 01:31:16,680
by the federal government
for him to leave.
1874
01:31:16,847 --> 01:31:18,932
And what's the difference
between these cases?
1875
01:31:19,099 --> 01:31:21,268
One case involves
two prominent Republicans
1876
01:31:21,435 --> 01:31:23,020
and the other involves
a Democrat.
1877
01:31:23,187 --> 01:31:24,980
That's the only difference, frankly.
1878
01:31:26,815 --> 01:31:29,902
Narrator: The question remained:
how did the U.S. government
1879
01:31:30,068 --> 01:31:31,945
first find out about Spitzer?
1880
01:31:32,112 --> 01:31:35,240
Was the FBI tipped off
by one of Spitzer's enemies?
1881
01:31:38,243 --> 01:31:40,329
Stone:
I was in a private club...
1882
01:31:40,496 --> 01:31:44,416
An adult-themed club in Miami
called Miami Velvet.
1883
01:31:44,583 --> 01:31:46,502
There was a woman
sitting at the bar.
1884
01:31:46,668 --> 01:31:47,669
I was sitting at the bar.
1885
01:31:47,836 --> 01:31:50,422
And we began a conversation
and I asked her what she did.
1886
01:31:50,589 --> 01:31:53,091
And she said she was
professionally a call girl,
1887
01:31:53,258 --> 01:31:55,177
but she wasn't working
this particular night.
1888
01:31:55,344 --> 01:31:57,221
I said, "Well, you know,
what, who are your...
1889
01:31:57,387 --> 01:31:58,847
What kind of clients
do you have?"
1890
01:31:59,014 --> 01:32:02,392
You know, she had athletes.
She had captains of industry.
1891
01:32:02,559 --> 01:32:04,561
She had prominent businessmen.
1892
01:32:04,728 --> 01:32:06,939
She had politicians and so on.
1893
01:32:07,105 --> 01:32:09,483
And I said, "Well, like who?"
She said, you know,
1894
01:32:09,650 --> 01:32:12,319
"I recently... I was...
I almost had a date
1895
01:32:12,486 --> 01:32:14,655
with the Governor
of New Jersey."
1896
01:32:14,821 --> 01:32:18,784
I said, "Jon Corzi...?
You had a date with Jon Corzine?"
1897
01:32:18,951 --> 01:32:21,537
She said, "Who's he?
I had a date with Eliot Spitzer."
1898
01:32:21,703 --> 01:32:24,289
I said, "No, Eliot Spitzer
is the Governor of New York,
1899
01:32:24,456 --> 01:32:25,457
not New Jersey."
1900
01:32:25,624 --> 01:32:27,352
She said, "Yeah well,
I'm not into politics."
1901
01:32:27,376 --> 01:32:29,419
I said, "Was there
anything else notable?"
1902
01:32:29,586 --> 01:32:31,463
And she said,
"Well, he was kinda weird."
1903
01:32:31,630 --> 01:32:33,691
I said, "Well, what do you mean?"
She said, "Well, he kept...
1904
01:32:33,715 --> 01:32:37,594
He had these black knee socks
and he kept them on the whole time."
1905
01:32:37,761 --> 01:32:41,223
So I ask you: what kind of guy
fucks with his socks on?
1906
01:32:41,390 --> 01:32:44,518
( chuckles )
The black-socks thing isn't true.
1907
01:32:44,685 --> 01:32:46,478
He wore low-cut socks
1908
01:32:46,645 --> 01:32:49,106
and he took them off.
1909
01:32:50,232 --> 01:32:52,776
Stone: The next day I discussed it
with my attorneys
1910
01:32:52,943 --> 01:32:54,736
and I asked them
to contact the FBI
1911
01:32:54,903 --> 01:32:57,239
and tell them what we knew
in a formal letter.
1912
01:32:57,406 --> 01:32:59,658
Now I don't claim
1913
01:32:59,825 --> 01:33:02,160
that this was a revelation
to the federal investigators.
1914
01:33:02,327 --> 01:33:04,847
It may have been a piece of a
puzzle that they were putting together.
1915
01:33:04,871 --> 01:33:07,916
I may have started an investigation
in an area they weren't looking at.
1916
01:33:08,083 --> 01:33:11,169
I have no idea.
And I haven't made any claim.
1917
01:33:11,336 --> 01:33:13,839
Narrator: The FBI insists
that it never received
1918
01:33:14,006 --> 01:33:16,174
the letter from Stone's attorney.
1919
01:33:18,594 --> 01:33:21,054
( horn honking )
1920
01:33:23,515 --> 01:33:26,518
Spitzer: It wasn't an addiction.
It was a desire,
1921
01:33:26,685 --> 01:33:30,564
the need to find an outlet
that was not within
1922
01:33:30,731 --> 01:33:34,943
the very confined world
that I had been living.
1923
01:33:35,110 --> 01:33:36,910
Interviewer: Had you found
a way to completely
1924
01:33:36,987 --> 01:33:39,448
compartmentalize it so that
it was this over here, and...
1925
01:33:39,615 --> 01:33:41,199
Yeah yeah.
1926
01:33:41,366 --> 01:33:43,869
And was that the...
Was that the...
1927
01:33:44,036 --> 01:33:46,371
The beauty of it, in a way,
as you saw it?
1928
01:33:46,538 --> 01:33:50,709
Look, I don't want to go there,
but it... it did not affect governance.
1929
01:33:50,876 --> 01:33:54,880
And in fact, I can say
with real certainty
1930
01:33:55,047 --> 01:33:58,133
in February, March of '08,
1931
01:33:58,300 --> 01:34:00,719
people were beginning to say,
"Hey, wait a minute,
1932
01:34:00,886 --> 01:34:02,429
their strategy is working."
1933
01:34:02,596 --> 01:34:04,640
We were winning
the political races,
1934
01:34:04,806 --> 01:34:07,309
getting the economic
agenda in place.
1935
01:34:07,476 --> 01:34:10,228
People were beginning to see
that the chess game was playing out.
1936
01:34:10,395 --> 01:34:14,107
- ( applause )
- Spitzer: Join me in good faith.
1937
01:34:14,274 --> 01:34:16,652
I will meet you
with an open hand.
1938
01:34:16,818 --> 01:34:19,613
For we will realize
this opportunity best
1939
01:34:19,780 --> 01:34:23,867
if we work together
in a spirit of cooperation.
1940
01:34:24,034 --> 01:34:27,454
( applause )
1941
01:34:27,621 --> 01:34:29,748
Man:
We'd been through so much.
1942
01:34:29,915 --> 01:34:32,959
And we had had a very successful
State of the State address,
1943
01:34:33,126 --> 01:34:35,712
we had a great
budget announcement
1944
01:34:35,879 --> 01:34:39,883
and we really thought
we were turning the corner.
1945
01:34:40,050 --> 01:34:44,429
In fact, we were at a bar
and one of the senior advisors
1946
01:34:44,596 --> 01:34:46,640
to the governor
raised his glass,
1947
01:34:46,807 --> 01:34:49,101
in what I'm sure was
the moment that jinxed us all,
1948
01:34:49,267 --> 01:34:51,812
and said,
"To turning the corner!"
1949
01:34:51,978 --> 01:34:54,981
Well, we didn't turn the corner.
1950
01:34:55,148 --> 01:34:57,859
Man:
This prostitution business,
1951
01:34:58,026 --> 01:35:00,737
referred to as
The Emperors Club VIP,
1952
01:35:00,904 --> 01:35:02,864
was an international
organization...
1953
01:35:03,031 --> 01:35:05,283
Narrator: On March 6th,
the Department of Justice
1954
01:35:05,450 --> 01:35:08,578
brought charges against the four
people who ran The Emperors Club.
1955
01:35:08,745 --> 01:35:10,723
Prosecutor: In addition with
the prostitution offenses,
1956
01:35:10,747 --> 01:35:12,541
they are charged
with money laundering...
1957
01:35:12,708 --> 01:35:14,918
Narrator: Two things caught
the attention of reporters:
1958
01:35:15,085 --> 01:35:17,379
the high prices paid
to the escorts
1959
01:35:17,546 --> 01:35:20,924
and the highly unusual appearance,
in a prostitution case,
1960
01:35:21,091 --> 01:35:25,220
of members of the public-corruption unit
of the Department of Justice.
1961
01:35:27,597 --> 01:35:29,975
Interviewer: When did you
first have an inclination
1962
01:35:30,142 --> 01:35:33,353
that you were gonna have
a serious political problem?
1963
01:35:36,314 --> 01:35:39,818
The Thursday
1964
01:35:39,985 --> 01:35:42,654
when it was announced
1965
01:35:42,821 --> 01:35:45,615
that a case had been made
1966
01:35:45,782 --> 01:35:47,534
against The Emperors Club.
1967
01:35:50,495 --> 01:35:54,666
Interviewer: And when that came out,
what did you think?
1968
01:35:54,833 --> 01:35:57,753
I said this is an issue.
1969
01:36:01,339 --> 01:36:04,009
Narrator: The FBI wiretaps
of The Emperors Club
1970
01:36:04,176 --> 01:36:07,053
intercepted more than 5,000 phone calls
and text messages
1971
01:36:07,220 --> 01:36:09,639
and more than 6,000 emails.
1972
01:36:11,099 --> 01:36:14,269
They knew where I had been.
They had dates and times.
1973
01:36:14,436 --> 01:36:18,648
On one trip, the Booker and I were
texting back and forth.
1974
01:36:18,815 --> 01:36:20,192
You know, like she would say,
1975
01:36:20,358 --> 01:36:22,235
"He's there now
and he's ready to see you."
1976
01:36:22,402 --> 01:36:25,197
And I would say, "Okay,
I'm heading over there."
1977
01:36:25,363 --> 01:36:29,284
They said, "Look,
we already know all about you.
1978
01:36:29,451 --> 01:36:31,661
We know that you were
at this hotel at this time
1979
01:36:31,828 --> 01:36:33,538
and 10 minutes later
you were here.
1980
01:36:33,705 --> 01:36:36,041
We know this."
1981
01:36:36,208 --> 01:36:39,544
Narrator: The list of charges
against The Emperors Club,
1982
01:36:39,711 --> 01:36:42,631
the affidavit,
was surprisingly detailed.
1983
01:36:42,798 --> 01:36:47,552
As a piece of writing,
it was crafted like a mystery story,
1984
01:36:47,719 --> 01:36:49,721
full of clues.
1985
01:36:49,888 --> 01:36:52,307
It teased the reader
with a few sentences each
1986
01:36:52,474 --> 01:36:54,226
on Clients One to Eight;
1987
01:36:54,392 --> 01:36:57,979
and then five riveting pages
on Client Number Nine
1988
01:36:58,146 --> 01:37:00,816
and his one date with "Kristen,"
1989
01:37:00,982 --> 01:37:03,360
otherwise known as Ashley Dupré,
1990
01:37:03,527 --> 01:37:06,571
at the Mayflower Hotel
in Washington, DC.
1991
01:37:06,738 --> 01:37:09,991
The affidavit was filled
with all sorts of crucial details
1992
01:37:10,158 --> 01:37:12,410
that allowed reporters to go off
1993
01:37:12,577 --> 01:37:14,996
and find out
who Client Nine was.
1994
01:37:16,248 --> 01:37:18,583
Barrett:
"The Times" won a Pulitzer
1995
01:37:18,750 --> 01:37:20,669
because they went down
and, you know,
1996
01:37:20,836 --> 01:37:23,088
they did things like they
went to every major hotel
1997
01:37:23,255 --> 01:37:26,216
in Washington and figured out
who was in that suite,
1998
01:37:26,383 --> 01:37:28,823
in which hotel, 'cause they didn't know
which hotel he was in.
1999
01:37:31,263 --> 01:37:34,391
Narrator: The affidavit was full
of steamy sexual banter
2000
01:37:34,558 --> 01:37:37,561
and concerns about whether
the client was difficult
2001
01:37:37,727 --> 01:37:39,980
or even safe.
2002
01:37:40,146 --> 01:37:42,607
Was the writing meant
to convict the accused
2003
01:37:42,774 --> 01:37:45,944
or embarrass the client?
2004
01:37:46,111 --> 01:37:50,365
An FBI guy with sandy-colored
hair and a mustache
2005
01:37:50,532 --> 01:37:52,826
brought up something
from the wiretap.
2006
01:37:52,993 --> 01:37:56,621
He said, "We heard that sometimes
you were asked to bring sex toys."
2007
01:37:56,788 --> 01:37:59,958
And the guy kept pressing me.
2008
01:38:00,125 --> 01:38:02,669
It was like he wanted to get
some kind of information
2009
01:38:02,836 --> 01:38:06,089
about some kinky sex stuff
or something juicy that happened.
2010
01:38:06,256 --> 01:38:08,508
You know, like the governor's
into whatever.
2011
01:38:08,675 --> 01:38:11,678
And I flat out said,
"I don't see how any of that
2012
01:38:11,845 --> 01:38:14,681
is relevant to your
investigation to prosecute
2013
01:38:14,848 --> 01:38:16,808
what you're trying to prosecute."
2014
01:38:16,975 --> 01:38:18,310
There was nothing.
2015
01:38:18,476 --> 01:38:20,770
Maybe some sexy lingerie
or something,
2016
01:38:20,937 --> 01:38:22,981
but that was all I ever took.
2017
01:38:23,148 --> 01:38:25,317
There were a number
of leaks in this case,
2018
01:38:25,483 --> 01:38:27,193
most obviously
to "The New York Times."
2019
01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:30,280
But a couple of New York TV
stations also were on to the story.
2020
01:38:30,447 --> 01:38:32,991
And the Albany "Times Union"
got sent
2021
01:38:33,158 --> 01:38:35,327
the criminal affidavit
in The Emperors Club case.
2022
01:38:35,493 --> 01:38:37,203
And its reporter
was told specifically
2023
01:38:37,370 --> 01:38:40,332
to look at Client Nine
and told that
2024
01:38:40,498 --> 01:38:43,251
he was a wealthy New York
public official.
2025
01:38:43,418 --> 01:38:46,671
Narrator: Eliot Spitzer was never
charged with any crime.
2026
01:38:46,838 --> 01:38:49,591
So you really have
to wonder whether or not
2027
01:38:49,758 --> 01:38:54,512
the purpose of the investigation
at some point became the leak.
2028
01:38:54,679 --> 01:38:56,514
Some breaking news
this afternoon.
2029
01:38:56,681 --> 01:38:58,391
"The New York Times"
is reporting
2030
01:38:58,558 --> 01:39:00,393
that Governor Eliot Spitzer
of New York
2031
01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:03,188
has informed some of his
senior administration officials
2032
01:39:03,355 --> 01:39:06,358
that he had been involved
in a prostitution ring.
2033
01:39:06,524 --> 01:39:08,151
I recessed the conference.
2034
01:39:08,318 --> 01:39:11,696
We went into my office,
the whole conference and had the TV on.
2035
01:39:11,863 --> 01:39:14,407
Reporter: Cheers erupted on
trading floors around the city
2036
01:39:14,574 --> 01:39:17,577
as word spread of Governor
Spitzer's stunning downfall.
2037
01:39:17,744 --> 01:39:19,537
Some traders reportedly broke out
2038
01:39:19,704 --> 01:39:21,790
bottles of champagne to celebrate.
2039
01:39:21,957 --> 01:39:24,209
Narrator:
They weren't the only ones.
2040
01:39:24,376 --> 01:39:26,294
Four diners at the 21 Club
2041
01:39:26,461 --> 01:39:28,213
claimed that they spotted
Dick Grasso,
2042
01:39:28,380 --> 01:39:30,590
Hank Greenberg and Ken Langone
2043
01:39:30,757 --> 01:39:34,219
celebrating Spitzer's fall
with a magnum of champagne.
2044
01:39:35,887 --> 01:39:37,949
Woman: Would you say that you were
surprised by this news?
2045
01:39:37,973 --> 01:39:39,891
Not at all.
I had no doubt
2046
01:39:40,058 --> 01:39:42,102
about his lack of character
and integrity.
2047
01:39:42,268 --> 01:39:43,895
It would only be a matter of time.
2048
01:39:44,062 --> 01:39:46,773
I didn't think he'd do it this soon.
Or the way he did it.
2049
01:39:46,940 --> 01:39:48,942
Barrett:
We do know that Ken Langone,
2050
01:39:49,109 --> 01:39:51,236
you know, told CNBC shortly
2051
01:39:51,403 --> 01:39:54,239
after all of this broke
2052
01:39:54,406 --> 01:39:56,908
that he had a friend
who was in the post office.
2053
01:39:57,075 --> 01:40:00,912
I know for sure he went
himself to a post office
2054
01:40:01,079 --> 01:40:05,667
and bought $2800 worth of mail orders
to send to the hooker.
2055
01:40:05,834 --> 01:40:08,545
- How do you know that?
- I know it.
2056
01:40:08,712 --> 01:40:11,423
Barrett: Why is CNBC sticking
a mike underneath his mouth?
2057
01:40:11,589 --> 01:40:14,217
Because he was
2058
01:40:14,384 --> 01:40:16,594
enemy number one.
2059
01:40:16,761 --> 01:40:18,430
Spitzer's now... it's his turn.
2060
01:40:18,596 --> 01:40:21,141
And the guy is in back of him,
you know, when you wait in line.
2061
01:40:21,307 --> 01:40:23,427
The guy's in back of him
waiting to buy a money order,
2062
01:40:23,518 --> 01:40:26,646
and Spitzer goes up and buys
$1800 worth of money orders.
2063
01:40:26,813 --> 01:40:29,065
Okay, so you're saying that
he said he had a friend
2064
01:40:29,232 --> 01:40:31,609
who stood behind Eliot Spitzer
in the post-office line,
2065
01:40:31,776 --> 01:40:34,195
overheard him sending
a money order for a prostitute.
2066
01:40:34,362 --> 01:40:35,947
I mean, this is
too amazing to be true.
2067
01:40:36,114 --> 01:40:39,075
It was totally coincidental
that somebody tells me this
2068
01:40:39,242 --> 01:40:41,953
an hour before that.
2069
01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:43,788
That's God at work,
I'm telling you.
2070
01:40:43,955 --> 01:40:46,958
Here's God saying
here's a little bit more for you.
2071
01:40:47,125 --> 01:40:49,419
Barrett: Unless you think
Ken Langone has friends
2072
01:40:49,586 --> 01:40:52,297
who call him from post offices,
my hunch would be
2073
01:40:52,464 --> 01:40:55,383
that it was someone closer
to him than a friend.
2074
01:40:55,550 --> 01:40:57,052
Interviewer:
What do you mean
2075
01:40:57,218 --> 01:40:59,137
"someone closer to him
than a friend"?
2076
01:40:59,304 --> 01:41:02,307
An employee, a consultant, a...
2077
01:41:02,474 --> 01:41:05,101
You know, somebody
that he hired to be there.
2078
01:41:05,268 --> 01:41:06,644
That would be my hunch.
2079
01:41:06,811 --> 01:41:08,480
But it's, you know,
do I know that?
2080
01:41:08,646 --> 01:41:10,732
Is he gonna tell us that?
He said it was a friend.
2081
01:41:10,899 --> 01:41:13,151
Why he volunteered
this information...
2082
01:41:13,318 --> 01:41:15,195
He just couldn't stop
himself from crowing.
2083
01:41:15,361 --> 01:41:17,655
I didn't have any
private eyes on him.
2084
01:41:17,822 --> 01:41:21,993
I didn't have any dirty-tricks guys
on him; none of that.
2085
01:41:22,160 --> 01:41:24,412
"I knew before the rest
of you guys."
2086
01:41:24,579 --> 01:41:26,164
Well, how did he know?
2087
01:41:26,331 --> 01:41:30,043
I don't know, but I did discuss it
with the governor
2088
01:41:30,210 --> 01:41:33,129
and the governor felt like
he was under surveillance.
2089
01:41:33,296 --> 01:41:35,340
He thought he was
under surveillance.
2090
01:41:36,674 --> 01:41:39,094
( siren wailing )
2091
01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:50,021
The day I gave my proffer,
2092
01:41:50,188 --> 01:41:52,524
I walked out of the courthouse
2093
01:41:52,690 --> 01:41:56,486
and there were journalists
suddenly everywhere.
2094
01:41:56,653 --> 01:41:59,948
I went straight to the bar.
I had a couple of drinks.
2095
01:42:00,115 --> 01:42:02,534
And I was sitting in the bar
and a news reporter
2096
01:42:02,700 --> 01:42:04,577
sat down next to me
and said, you know,
2097
01:42:04,744 --> 01:42:06,514
"What do you think
of the Eliot Spitzer news?"
2098
01:42:06,538 --> 01:42:09,374
And I was like, "Oh my God,
they've got me already!"
2099
01:42:09,541 --> 01:42:11,876
I was, like, freaking out.
2100
01:42:12,043 --> 01:42:14,379
Narrator:
The very day the news broke,
2101
01:42:14,546 --> 01:42:16,756
there were messages
on "Angelina's" phone
2102
01:42:16,923 --> 01:42:19,384
from reporters
who wanted to talk.
2103
01:42:19,551 --> 01:42:22,762
Mysteriously, they knew her
real name and her phone number,
2104
01:42:22,929 --> 01:42:26,641
information only available
to the government investigation.
2105
01:42:29,686 --> 01:42:32,814
"Angelina" left town
and never returned the calls.
2106
01:42:32,981 --> 01:42:36,985
( techno music playing )
? How long, how long?
2107
01:42:37,152 --> 01:42:39,737
♪ How long,
how long... ♪
2108
01:42:39,904 --> 01:42:42,824
I do not believe that politics,
in the long run,
2109
01:42:42,991 --> 01:42:44,576
is about individuals.
2110
01:42:44,742 --> 01:42:47,287
It is about ideas,
the public good
2111
01:42:47,453 --> 01:42:50,582
and doing what is best
for the state of New York.
2112
01:42:50,748 --> 01:42:53,126
But I have disappointed
and failed to live up
2113
01:42:53,293 --> 01:42:56,087
to the standard
I expected of myself.
2114
01:42:56,254 --> 01:42:58,006
I must now dedicate some time
2115
01:42:58,173 --> 01:43:00,592
to regain the trust
of my family.
2116
01:43:00,758 --> 01:43:03,303
I will not be taking questions.
Thank you very much.
2117
01:43:03,469 --> 01:43:05,346
I will report back to you
in short order.
2118
01:43:05,513 --> 01:43:08,099
- Thank you very much.
- ? How long, how long?
2119
01:43:09,601 --> 01:43:11,436
♪ How long, how long. ♪
2120
01:43:18,026 --> 01:43:19,736
Stiles:
Everybody was just in shock.
2121
01:43:19,903 --> 01:43:22,113
I was angry
and that was the last thing
2122
01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:24,991
I ever would have expected
of him to have done.
2123
01:43:25,158 --> 01:43:27,952
My heart broke for... for Silda.
2124
01:43:28,119 --> 01:43:31,414
I knew Silda very well
and his family.
2125
01:43:31,581 --> 01:43:33,791
And they'd always seemed
to have such a strong
2126
01:43:33,958 --> 01:43:36,461
relationship and a bond.
2127
01:43:36,628 --> 01:43:39,797
Dopp: He was like, you know,
so straitlaced as to be,
2128
01:43:39,964 --> 01:43:42,342
like, laughably straitlaced.
2129
01:43:42,508 --> 01:43:45,678
At some social event, Eliot said that
he had met Penelope Cruz.
2130
01:43:45,845 --> 01:43:48,765
And at the time she was
the hottest star out there.
2131
01:43:48,932 --> 01:43:51,517
And I said, "Wow, that girl
is amazing, isn't she?
2132
01:43:51,684 --> 01:43:54,187
She's dynamite, no?"
And his response to me is,
2133
01:43:54,354 --> 01:43:56,981
"I could see how some people
might think she's alluring."
2134
01:43:57,148 --> 01:43:59,067
And I just said to him,
2135
01:43:59,234 --> 01:44:01,402
I said, well, "Wow,
what are you talking about?"
2136
01:44:01,569 --> 01:44:04,364
But yeah, that was Eliot.
That's why this notion that,
2137
01:44:04,530 --> 01:44:07,075
you know, there would be
someone other than Silda
2138
01:44:07,242 --> 01:44:09,619
was such a shock.
2139
01:44:12,038 --> 01:44:14,499
Interviewer: Did you learn
something about your wife
2140
01:44:14,666 --> 01:44:16,084
that you didn't expect in this...
2141
01:44:16,251 --> 01:44:18,419
As a result of this experience?
2142
01:44:21,172 --> 01:44:24,217
I wish I hadn't
needed to learn it,
2143
01:44:24,384 --> 01:44:26,594
but I learned that the depths
of her forgiveness
2144
01:44:26,761 --> 01:44:29,764
are deeper than are...
2145
01:44:29,931 --> 01:44:33,643
ever to be called for.
2146
01:44:36,271 --> 01:44:37,871
Narrator:
After the initial announcement,
2147
01:44:37,981 --> 01:44:40,024
Spitzer considered his options.
2148
01:44:40,191 --> 01:44:42,318
Despite her pain,
his wife encouraged him
2149
01:44:42,485 --> 01:44:43,611
to stay on as governor.
2150
01:44:43,778 --> 01:44:46,739
Calls went out to the leaders
of the State House and Senate.
2151
01:44:46,906 --> 01:44:49,659
No one would support him.
2152
01:44:49,826 --> 01:44:52,870
The reservoir
of goodwill was empty.
2153
01:44:53,037 --> 01:44:55,039
The combative style
2154
01:44:55,206 --> 01:44:57,875
left him without friends
and defenders in the end.
2155
01:44:58,042 --> 01:45:00,545
Spitzer: The only relevant
question really was
2156
01:45:00,712 --> 01:45:02,547
what can I do to minimize
2157
01:45:02,714 --> 01:45:04,799
the continued pain to my family?
2158
01:45:04,966 --> 01:45:07,552
And it seemed to me that
2159
01:45:07,719 --> 01:45:10,930
to fight to retain
the office at that point
2160
01:45:11,097 --> 01:45:14,142
would make it even longer,
uglier, more painful
2161
01:45:14,309 --> 01:45:17,395
than to take the alternate path.
2162
01:45:17,562 --> 01:45:19,731
So I resigned.
2163
01:45:19,897 --> 01:45:24,527
From those to whom much is given,
much is expected.
2164
01:45:24,694 --> 01:45:27,655
I have been given much:
the love of my family,
2165
01:45:27,822 --> 01:45:30,908
the faith and trust
of the people of New York
2166
01:45:31,075 --> 01:45:33,244
and the chance
to lead the state.
2167
01:45:33,411 --> 01:45:35,288
I think I was in shock first
2168
01:45:35,455 --> 01:45:38,499
because I saw Silda
standing there.
2169
01:45:38,666 --> 01:45:41,252
We've seen so many
women standing there,
2170
01:45:41,419 --> 01:45:42,795
behind their man.
2171
01:45:42,962 --> 01:45:45,006
And many women just felt,
you know, this is enough.
2172
01:45:45,173 --> 01:45:47,800
Narrator: Intrigued by the cultural
issues of the scandal,
2173
01:45:47,967 --> 01:45:50,803
performance artist Karen Finley
wrote a one-woman play
2174
01:45:50,970 --> 01:45:53,598
about the intersection
between sex and state.
2175
01:45:53,765 --> 01:45:56,684
The public performance
of this private moment
2176
01:45:56,851 --> 01:45:59,437
was... was just so voyeuristic.
2177
01:45:59,604 --> 01:46:03,483
The painting in our mind
of what we weren't seeing...
2178
01:46:06,027 --> 01:46:09,655
this very personal,
sexual, private act.
2179
01:46:09,822 --> 01:46:13,117
♪ You never know
how much I love you ♪
2180
01:46:13,284 --> 01:46:16,829
♪ Never know
how much I care... ♪
2181
01:46:16,996 --> 01:46:19,248
I'm not the most politically-correct
person in the world,
2182
01:46:19,415 --> 01:46:22,543
and I saw Eliot later
after this whole thing
2183
01:46:22,710 --> 01:46:23,711
and I said, you know,
2184
01:46:23,878 --> 01:46:26,047
"You could have run in France
on this and won," so...
2185
01:46:26,214 --> 01:46:27,965
♪ When you kiss me ♪
2186
01:46:28,132 --> 01:46:31,844
♪ Fever when you
hold me tight ♪
2187
01:46:32,011 --> 01:46:35,139
♪ Fever in the morning... ♪
2188
01:46:35,306 --> 01:46:38,476
Barrett: Eliot Spitzer is a joke,
a national joke.
2189
01:46:38,643 --> 01:46:40,853
He is like the poster boy
2190
01:46:41,020 --> 01:46:43,147
of a man out of control.
2191
01:46:43,314 --> 01:46:45,316
But these other guys aren't;
2192
01:46:45,483 --> 01:46:47,944
these other politicians aren't.
2193
01:46:48,111 --> 01:46:49,987
I mean, Bill Clinton is
one of the most popular
2194
01:46:50,154 --> 01:46:52,031
figures in American politics
2195
01:46:52,198 --> 01:46:54,075
and he got a blowjob
in the Oval Office.
2196
01:46:54,242 --> 01:46:56,994
♪ Do you remember ♪
2197
01:46:57,161 --> 01:47:00,039
♪ When we met ♪
2198
01:47:00,206 --> 01:47:03,251
♪ That's the day ♪
2199
01:47:03,418 --> 01:47:06,254
♪ I knew you were my pet ♪
2200
01:47:06,421 --> 01:47:09,340
♪ I want to tell you ♪
2201
01:47:11,843 --> 01:47:15,680
♪ How much ♪
2202
01:47:16,889 --> 01:47:21,436
♪ I love you. ♪
2203
01:47:23,729 --> 01:47:26,399
( vocalizing )
2204
01:47:29,735 --> 01:47:32,655
He had sex.
Oh my God!
2205
01:47:32,822 --> 01:47:33,990
Kill him.
2206
01:47:34,157 --> 01:47:35,825
Burn him at the stake.
You know?
2207
01:47:35,992 --> 01:47:38,411
I hope when history
looks back at that
2208
01:47:38,578 --> 01:47:41,914
they say, "Gee, changed the way
Wall Street operates;
2209
01:47:42,081 --> 01:47:45,042
went after, you know,
environmental abuses;
2210
01:47:45,209 --> 01:47:47,879
you know, went after
the insurance-company fraud;
2211
01:47:48,045 --> 01:47:50,006
went after this."
And then on this side,
2212
01:47:50,173 --> 01:47:52,467
"Had sex in a Washington
hotel room."
2213
01:48:03,561 --> 01:48:06,397
Matt Lauer: He resigned
13 months ago and has remained
2214
01:48:06,564 --> 01:48:08,441
largely silent until now.
2215
01:48:08,608 --> 01:48:10,985
With the US economy in turmoil,
the man once known
2216
01:48:11,152 --> 01:48:13,070
as the Sheriff of Wall Street is back.
2217
01:48:13,237 --> 01:48:14,381
Governor Spitzer, good morning.
2218
01:48:14,405 --> 01:48:15,799
- It's good to see you.
- Good morning, Matt.
2219
01:48:15,823 --> 01:48:17,533
I've heard rumors
that he's trying
2220
01:48:17,700 --> 01:48:19,744
to figure a way out to get
back into public life.
2221
01:48:19,911 --> 01:48:22,413
I mean, the guy's got skin
like that, okay?
2222
01:48:22,580 --> 01:48:24,123
I mean, that... that thick.
2223
01:48:24,290 --> 01:48:26,792
Narrator: After his resignation,
Spitzer watched
2224
01:48:26,959 --> 01:48:29,712
as his Wall Street reforms
were attacked and rolled back
2225
01:48:29,879 --> 01:48:32,840
by investment banks
and the federal government.
2226
01:48:33,007 --> 01:48:35,593
He had been on to the very
issues that almost did us in
2227
01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:37,470
and collapsed
the financial system.
2228
01:48:37,637 --> 01:48:40,598
These are the guys that got us
to the brink of disaster.
2229
01:48:40,765 --> 01:48:43,851
And Eliot Spitzer was after them
years before the collapse occurred.
2230
01:48:44,018 --> 01:48:45,895
Goldman Sachs will have a profit
2231
01:48:46,062 --> 01:48:48,689
that we estimate of about
$12 billion last year.
2232
01:48:48,856 --> 01:48:52,360
That is precisely
what taxpayers gave them
2233
01:48:52,527 --> 01:48:55,112
to help them get bailed out
from their AIG exposure.
2234
01:48:55,279 --> 01:48:57,114
Banks should be lending
to people who have
2235
01:48:57,281 --> 01:48:59,325
a repayment schedule,
who produce something.
2236
01:48:59,492 --> 01:49:01,369
It should be an old-fashioned,
boring business.
2237
01:49:01,536 --> 01:49:02,696
And then you grow an economy.
2238
01:49:02,828 --> 01:49:05,122
The outrage is
because it is our money
2239
01:49:05,289 --> 01:49:07,041
that is subsidizing
these crazy bonuses.
2240
01:49:07,208 --> 01:49:09,293
Narrator: As Spitzer began
reappearing in public,
2241
01:49:09,460 --> 01:49:11,629
so did Ashley Dupré.
2242
01:49:11,796 --> 01:49:14,423
With uncanny timing,
it seemed that Ashley appeared
2243
01:49:14,590 --> 01:49:17,301
on Fox TV or the cover
of the conservative
2244
01:49:17,468 --> 01:49:21,055
"New York Post" whenever Spitzer
made public appearances.
2245
01:49:21,222 --> 01:49:23,015
Hi, I'm Ashley Dupré.
2246
01:49:23,182 --> 01:49:25,434
I used to be on the front page
of the "New York Post."
2247
01:49:25,601 --> 01:49:27,895
Now I'm writing for it.
That's right.
2248
01:49:28,062 --> 01:49:30,147
I'm the "New York Post" 's
new advice columnist.
2249
01:49:30,314 --> 01:49:33,568
Ask me anything about love,
sex, and relationships.
2250
01:49:36,696 --> 01:49:39,991
A lot of people around the country
are discussing Eliot Spitzer's efforts,
2251
01:49:40,157 --> 01:49:42,535
and that's what it clearly is,
to rehabilitate himself.
2252
01:49:42,702 --> 01:49:45,580
Senator Joe Bruno,
of the great capital district.
2253
01:49:45,746 --> 01:49:47,516
Good morning, Senator.
Thank you for being with us.
2254
01:49:47,540 --> 01:49:50,001
- I think he needs therapy.
- I agree.
2255
01:49:50,167 --> 01:49:52,420
They oughta help him
to get himself rehabbed.
2256
01:49:52,587 --> 01:49:53,588
Assuming he can.
2257
01:49:53,754 --> 01:49:55,357
Because people like this
are very dangerous.
2258
01:49:55,381 --> 01:49:58,634
Roger Stone, let me ask you about
what's going on now with Eliot Spitzer.
2259
01:49:58,801 --> 01:50:00,845
Well, Senator Bruno
is essentially correct;
2260
01:50:01,012 --> 01:50:02,763
the man is a psycho.
2261
01:50:02,930 --> 01:50:05,725
Don't bust people
who are running call-girl rings
2262
01:50:05,891 --> 01:50:08,352
if you yourself
are gonna patronize one.
2263
01:50:08,519 --> 01:50:11,105
I mean, the man's
entire life is a lie
2264
01:50:11,272 --> 01:50:14,025
and I therefore thought this
fight needed to be finished.
2265
01:50:14,191 --> 01:50:16,861
Narrator: Roger Stone's campaign
against Spitzer
2266
01:50:17,028 --> 01:50:19,530
continued with his promotion
of Kristin Davis,
2267
01:50:19,697 --> 01:50:21,365
a convicted madam
who claimed to have
2268
01:50:21,532 --> 01:50:23,576
supplied escorts
to Eliot Spitzer.
2269
01:50:23,743 --> 01:50:25,786
New York law enforcement says
2270
01:50:25,953 --> 01:50:28,122
there's no evidence of any link.
2271
01:50:28,289 --> 01:50:31,208
But newspapers continue
to print her claims anyway.
2272
01:50:31,375 --> 01:50:33,419
In March 2010,
2273
01:50:33,586 --> 01:50:35,463
Stone backed her
as a candidate for governor.
2274
01:50:35,630 --> 01:50:37,465
I am running
for Governor of New York.
2275
01:50:37,632 --> 01:50:41,052
Interviewer: What do you think about
an Eliot Spitzer comeback?
2276
01:50:41,218 --> 01:50:44,138
Look, I can't forecast it.
I hope not.
2277
01:50:44,305 --> 01:50:47,266
- I hope what he did...
- Interviewer: You think it was...
2278
01:50:47,433 --> 01:50:49,518
Yeah, he thought
he was above the law.
2279
01:50:49,685 --> 01:50:51,395
The law didn't apply to him.
2280
01:50:54,732 --> 01:50:57,735
Woman: What do you think
is next for Governor Spitzer?
2281
01:50:59,445 --> 01:51:01,864
You know, we all have
our own private hells.
2282
01:51:02,031 --> 01:51:05,743
I hope his private hell is
hotter than anybody else's.
2283
01:51:07,411 --> 01:51:08,496
Interviewer:
Ken Langone
2284
01:51:08,663 --> 01:51:10,915
and Hank Greenberg
are powerful enemies.
2285
01:51:11,082 --> 01:51:13,334
Did it ever concern you
2286
01:51:13,501 --> 01:51:16,587
that they might have played
a role in your downfall?
2287
01:51:18,547 --> 01:51:21,258
I guess it didn't
concern me enough.
2288
01:51:21,425 --> 01:51:24,261
You know, look, not to...
2289
01:51:26,263 --> 01:51:28,182
sort of mince words,
2290
01:51:28,349 --> 01:51:31,602
there are all sorts
of rumors about
2291
01:51:31,769 --> 01:51:35,439
their helping or taking
credit occasionally
2292
01:51:35,606 --> 01:51:37,817
for bringing me down.
2293
01:51:39,193 --> 01:51:41,737
My view is I brought
myself down,
2294
01:51:41,904 --> 01:51:45,700
and I will not try
to blame others
2295
01:51:45,866 --> 01:51:48,285
or excuse my behavior.
2296
01:51:48,452 --> 01:51:51,664
I did what I did and...
And shame on me.
2297
01:51:51,831 --> 01:51:54,959
If they were involved
in unearthing it,
2298
01:51:55,126 --> 01:51:56,627
okay, so be it.
2299
01:51:56,794 --> 01:51:59,797
That isn't my concern right now.
2300
01:52:00,798 --> 01:52:03,342
What I did in our investigations
2301
01:52:03,509 --> 01:52:07,596
of the companies obviously
I believe it was right.
2302
01:52:07,763 --> 01:52:10,975
My personal behavior that led
to where I am right now
2303
01:52:11,142 --> 01:52:13,102
was obviously wrong,
2304
01:52:13,269 --> 01:52:15,604
violative of everything
I hope I believe in.
2305
01:52:15,771 --> 01:52:18,274
And I make no excuses.
2306
01:52:33,414 --> 01:52:37,334
Finley: We want
our political people to be God.
2307
01:52:37,501 --> 01:52:39,712
And maybe that's
the biggest problem for us...
2308
01:52:39,879 --> 01:52:43,424
Is that he's a human being
and he's not God.
2309
01:52:44,884 --> 01:52:46,844
This isn't just
a national narrative,
2310
01:52:47,011 --> 01:52:49,680
but it's an ancient narrative
that happened,
2311
01:52:49,847 --> 01:52:52,266
that has to repeat itself
2312
01:52:52,433 --> 01:52:55,478
into our culture because
it is unresolved.
2313
01:52:59,982 --> 01:53:02,193
Aside from
your journalism career,
2314
01:53:02,359 --> 01:53:05,029
your column, you're also
a lovely singer.
2315
01:53:05,196 --> 01:53:06,506
Before... and I want you
to come back
2316
01:53:06,530 --> 01:53:08,282
and be a regular columnist
for us as well.
2317
01:53:08,449 --> 01:53:09,909
I would love to, thank you.
2318
01:53:10,075 --> 01:53:12,745
But can you give us
a little Christmas... Christmas cheer?
2319
01:53:12,912 --> 01:53:15,164
- Oh my God, on the spot.
- Sing us something.
2320
01:53:15,331 --> 01:53:17,625
- Okay okay.
- Uh, go ahead.
2321
01:53:17,792 --> 01:53:22,004
♪ The weather outside
is frightful ♪
2322
01:53:22,171 --> 01:53:26,801
♪ The fire is so delightful ♪
2323
01:53:26,967 --> 01:53:30,554
♪ But since you've
no place to go ♪
2324
01:53:30,721 --> 01:53:34,141
♪ Let it snow,
let it snow ♪
2325
01:53:34,308 --> 01:53:36,977
♪ Let it snow. ♪
2326
01:53:37,144 --> 01:53:38,562
Geraldo: Ashley Dupré.
2327
01:53:38,729 --> 01:53:41,774
Man:
Yeah, New York, stand up.
2328
01:53:41,941 --> 01:53:43,275
♪ Start spreading
the news ♪
2329
01:53:43,442 --> 01:53:44,985
♪ Start spreading the news ♪
2330
01:53:45,152 --> 01:53:47,530
- ? I'm leaving today?
- ? I'm leaving today?
2331
01:53:47,696 --> 01:53:50,658
♪ I wanna be a part of it,
New York, New York... ♪
2332
01:53:50,825 --> 01:53:52,701
Gold went up to 1040 today.
2333
01:53:52,868 --> 01:53:54,745
There was a huge panic
about inflation
2334
01:53:54,912 --> 01:53:56,831
and the Arabs wanting
to be paid for their oil
2335
01:53:56,997 --> 01:53:58,707
in a currency other than US.
2336
01:53:58,874 --> 01:54:01,085
But I think that's
just a temporary rumor.
2337
01:54:01,252 --> 01:54:03,420
But it did have serious impact.
2338
01:54:03,587 --> 01:54:05,190
- ? New York?
- Man: ♪ Yo, it's so deep ♪
2339
01:54:05,214 --> 01:54:07,424
♪ I woke up in the city
that don't sleep ♪
2340
01:54:07,591 --> 01:54:10,302
♪ Got me up all night like
a sink with a slow leak ♪
2341
01:54:10,469 --> 01:54:12,263
♪ Holds me in its grips... ♪
2342
01:54:12,429 --> 01:54:14,533
There's a couple of people
that I'd like to do that to.
2343
01:54:14,557 --> 01:54:15,850
( laughing )
2344
01:54:16,016 --> 01:54:17,661
Man: ♪ And this must mean up
in here comes... ♪
2345
01:54:17,685 --> 01:54:19,895
Okay, the Governor of New York
is using our service.
2346
01:54:20,062 --> 01:54:22,982
How bad can what
we're doing be? Right?
2347
01:54:23,148 --> 01:54:26,694
♪ NYC... known as where you go
to become the person you wanna be ♪
2348
01:54:26,861 --> 01:54:28,779
♪ Look, you got some
small-town blues ♪
2349
01:54:28,946 --> 01:54:30,948
♪ You're trying to lose,
we got a big city here ♪
2350
01:54:31,115 --> 01:54:33,951
♪ To abuse your virtue,
it might help you or hurt you ♪
2351
01:54:34,118 --> 01:54:35,327
♪ Save or desert you ♪
2352
01:54:35,494 --> 01:54:37,294
♪ Get close to bright lights,
might burn you ♪
2353
01:54:37,413 --> 01:54:39,248
Woman: ♪ Start spreading
the news... ♪
2354
01:54:39,415 --> 01:54:41,125
It's virtually worthless.
2355
01:54:41,292 --> 01:54:43,127
About-about 100...
2356
01:54:43,294 --> 01:54:44,962
About $100 million.
2357
01:54:45,129 --> 01:54:46,964
♪ New York, New York ♪
2358
01:54:47,131 --> 01:54:48,799
♪ New York,
New York ♪
2359
01:54:48,966 --> 01:54:51,302
- ? These vagabond shoes?
- ? These vagabond shoes?
2360
01:54:51,468 --> 01:54:54,305
♪ Are longing to stray ♪
2361
01:54:54,471 --> 01:54:56,307
♪ The very heart of it ♪
2362
01:54:56,473 --> 01:54:58,726
♪ New York, New York ♪
2363
01:54:58,893 --> 01:55:00,311
♪ Feel me ♪
2364
01:55:00,477 --> 01:55:02,897
♪ New York, big city
of dreams, big schemes ♪
2365
01:55:03,063 --> 01:55:05,816
♪ Petty hustles on the corner
claim they're doing big things ♪
2366
01:55:05,983 --> 01:55:08,319
♪ Winning battles, never wars,
doing dirt-like chores ♪
2367
01:55:08,485 --> 01:55:11,113
♪ Never know who's telling lies
but the city keeps score ♪
2368
01:55:11,280 --> 01:55:14,033
♪ Good place to watch your back
and back-watch your front too ♪
2369
01:55:14,199 --> 01:55:16,869
♪ Jump too high,
someone is quick to bump you ♪
2370
01:55:17,036 --> 01:55:19,496
♪ Stuff you in a trunk
with a lump when you come to ♪
2371
01:55:19,663 --> 01:55:22,333
♪ And then everyone's committing crime
to steal enough food ♪
2372
01:55:22,499 --> 01:55:24,939
♪ Trudge through the urban jungle
and you'll see some things ♪
2373
01:55:25,085 --> 01:55:27,755
♪ New York eats its young
and defeats its kings ♪
2374
01:55:27,922 --> 01:55:30,507
♪ Projects to penthouses,
Park Ave to the hood ♪
2375
01:55:30,674 --> 01:55:32,009
♪ Win or lose
you can't choose ♪
2376
01:55:32,176 --> 01:55:33,928
♪ You take the bad
with the good ♪
2377
01:55:34,094 --> 01:55:36,494
♪ And the upside is higher
than the sky above the 'scrapers ♪
2378
01:55:36,639 --> 01:55:38,974
♪ If you're looking for fame,
power, influence or paper ♪
2379
01:55:39,141 --> 01:55:41,769
♪ Make your move but don't think
your little lunch comes free ♪
2380
01:55:41,936 --> 01:55:44,271
♪ It's granted by the higher
power known as NYC ♪
2381
01:55:44,438 --> 01:55:46,982
- ? These little-town blues?
- ? These little-town blues?
2382
01:55:47,149 --> 01:55:49,818
- ? Are melting away?
- ? Are melting away?
2383
01:55:49,985 --> 01:55:52,154
♪ I'll make a brand-new
start of it ♪
2384
01:55:52,321 --> 01:55:55,032
- ? New York, New York?
- ? New York, New York?
2385
01:55:55,199 --> 01:55:56,700
♪ If I can make it there ♪
2386
01:55:56,867 --> 01:55:58,035
♪ If I can
make it there ♪
2387
01:55:58,202 --> 01:56:00,371
♪ I'll make it anywhere ♪
2388
01:56:00,537 --> 01:56:03,082
♪ It's up to you New York ♪
2389
01:56:03,248 --> 01:56:04,917
♪ New York ♪
2390
01:56:05,084 --> 01:56:06,835
♪ New York, New York ♪
2391
01:56:07,002 --> 01:56:10,214
♪ New York,
New York ♪
2392
01:56:10,381 --> 01:56:12,383
♪ New York City ♪
2393
01:56:12,549 --> 01:56:15,260
♪ New York, New York ♪
2394
01:56:15,427 --> 01:56:17,888
♪ New York City
is the place ♪
2395
01:56:18,055 --> 01:56:21,225
♪ New York,
New York ♪
2396
01:56:21,392 --> 01:56:23,227
♪ New York City is
the place to be ♪
2397
01:56:23,394 --> 01:56:26,188
♪ New York,
New York ♪
2398
01:56:26,355 --> 01:56:28,732
♪ New York City is
the place to be ♪
2399
01:56:28,899 --> 01:56:31,360
♪ Ba-Ba-da
Ba-Ba-Ba-da ♪
2400
01:56:31,527 --> 01:56:34,196
♪ Ba-Ba-da
Ba-Ba-Ba-da ♪
2401
01:56:34,363 --> 01:56:37,074
♪ Ba-Ba-da
Ba-Ba-Ba-da ♪
2402
01:56:39,326 --> 01:56:42,371
- ? Start spreading the news?
- ? Start spreading the news?
2403
01:56:42,538 --> 01:56:44,873
- ? I'm leaving today?
- ? I'm leaving today?
2404
01:56:45,040 --> 01:56:49,753
♪ I wanna be a part of it,
New York, New York ♪
2405
01:56:49,920 --> 01:56:53,465
- ? These vagabond shoes?
- ? These vagabond shoes?
2406
01:56:53,632 --> 01:56:56,176
- ? Are longing to stray?
- ? Are longing to stray?
2407
01:56:56,343 --> 01:56:58,387
♪ Right through
the very heart of it ♪
2408
01:56:58,554 --> 01:57:01,557
♪ New York, New York. ♪
2409
01:57:03,058 --> 01:57:05,060
( vocalizing )
2410
01:57:23,454 --> 01:57:25,330
( music fading )
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