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If we're going to take and get there then, maybe.
Welcome, everyone, to this press conference with The Pirate Bay.
Yes, we can start with questions.
What would a conviction mean for Pirate Bay?
- Nothing. - What are they going to do?
They failed to take the site down once. They are welcome to fail again.
It is not about the Pirate Bay going to trial, but about politics.
They try to control the internet by buying those in power.
So this is about the fight for a free internet.
- Yes, go ahead. - Where is Fredrik?
Yeah, I actually don't know.
More questions?
- You're not swamping this now, are you? - I'll try.
- Good. See you tonight. Kiss, kiss. - Kiss.
- Good luck. - Thank you.
- How can you be so sure of that? - Mom... You don't have to worry.
I just get so worried about… That's such a long prison sentence.
Nothing can come of this.
Okay. love you
Love you too. Bye then.
I bought this one. You can try, right?
- Yes... A little long, maybe. - No, then.
It's great.
Then I'll pull myself together and go. So.
Pixies! /DOG HEAR PAW/
- See you. - Mm.
- Welcome home. - Thank you.
- So you still have the car? - Yes.
- And it goes well? - Yeah.
You, uh...
It was really stupid at the end of the trip, and...
Well, we don't seem to agree on much, but...
Well, we can just sort of forget everything, and so...
...we'll get through this, and... Damn, we're showing those bastards now.
Why are we here?
That's a damn good question.
Nice, huh?
This is fucking great.
It's absolutely perfect.
- Peter, how do you feel about the trial? - It feels good. Absolutely.
- That's good. - And Anakata?
Good morning, parties and representatives. You are called to the main hearing today-
- in a case of suspicion of aiding and abetting copyright infringement.
Then we welcome chamber prosecutor Håkan Roswall to present its claim.
Thanks.
Today, Pirate Bay is the world's largest file sharing service.
It is financed by advertising, and the four defendants have been responsible for the operation.
By doing so, they have encouraged others to commit copyright crimes.
We demand a sentence of one year
in prison - and damages of 117 million.
How do the defendants respond to the claim?
Carl Lundström disputes the prosecutor's request.
Fredrik Neij disputes the prosecutor's request.
Gottfrid Svartholm Warg contests the prosecutor's claim.
Peter Sunde disputes the prosecutor's request.
I have always had a long interest in computers
and technology, and internet and...networks.
- Now I recovered a bit. The... - When was the site started?
In 1652 by Charles IX.
- Yes, it was fun. - Thank you.
Long interest in technology, and it has always been my driving force…
I just wanted to join in...creating a big, cool site.
And so we welcome up Peter Sunde "Koolmisoppi".
- Charcoal soup. - Yes.
What are your views on copyright?
Yes, I think it can be problematic, maybe.
In what way?
Yes, the fact that we have to be here today shows that there is a problem.
No, we never talked purpose. I don't know what the purpose was on their part.
Fredrik told me he was going to create the world's biggest site.
I thought that sounded very good, so I decided to invest.
That is my purpose. Nothing else.
You have been described in the press as a computer genius.
How would you describe your competence?
I have some technical skills. That's right.
"Some technical competence", what does it mean when compared to others?
I don't think this is the right time,
place or medium to post my resume.
But now I ask you, so could you please answer?
I like to avoid answering. The question feels too value-based.
- Too value-wise? - Yes.
When did you first meet IRL?
Where...was that IRL you said?
- In real life. - We don't like that expression.
We say AFK, away from keyboard. It's real with the internet. Thanks.
What will happen to Pirate Bay?
Good Friday! How did the first day feel?
Boring. The prosecutor's strategy seems to be to lie in the most boring way possible.
117 million can be seen as a huge sum. Is it really justified?
Those I represent have the largest claim for damages, 93 million.
That's five films in six months.
It is an indication of the enormous damage done to the Pirate Bay. Thanks.
Can you just help me understand?
- Ana... - What?
How could you not encrypt your computer?
What does it matter now?
After the Cold War, new enemies must be found.
- Terror, piracy. - And drugs.
- Have you seen this? - Are you going to become Facebook friends with Jim?
Check. Days after the charges were filed, he changed his job status.
- To one of the companies suing us. - Are you kidding?
And...that year he declared a capital gain of 890,000.
- Way above his usual police salary. - But it's absolutely crazy!
Then he moved from his tenement in Solna to a house in Bromma.
Who the hell wants to live in Bromma?
A police officer who investigated The Pirate Bay has got a job with one of the
plaintiffs - the film company Warner Bros. One of the accused's defense lawyers
says - - that it is a scandal if the job was already in question during the investigation.
It is true. I spoke to Warners.
It's unbelievably stupid.
The accused has reported that, but nothing happens.
- But it doesn't look good. - I know.
The trial is also about public opinion.
If we can find something to shift the focus towards them and put us on the offensive...
- Let me know if you come up with anything. - Okay. See you soon.
Income
Only losers pay taxes
I have to go.
Will they drop the charges now?
We've filed a police report, so we'll see.
- Have a good time, mom. - Hello, my boy. Good luck.
But you...
I thought of a little thing. I have followed the trial.
Even if you are right on point, so…
...so you have a tendency to seem a little fart-posh.
Yes. You seem so sensible.
Nobody likes a besserwisser. I just wanted to say that.
- Hello then. love you - The same.
Is it true that you earned so much?
It just goes to show how desperate the prosecution- side is when they want to smear us.
That they don't really have any charges. Thanks.
That the Pirate Bay was illegal, I never thought so.
But even the name Pirate Bay-
- does it imply illegal activity?
No, not for me. To me it just sounded good.
And I'm technically driven, not ideologically.
Etc. Yeah... Then I'd like us to play the
clip- - linked to Exhibit A 4321, please.
You at the MPAA, the Anti-Piracy Agency, Bush and Bodström, or
whoever ordered this pathetic attack, stop messing with the internet!
It is a war you will never win.
Now we fire the big cannon and say: In your face, Hollywood!
/CHEERS AND APPLAUSE IN THE VIDEO/ Monique: We can pause there. Thanks.
Fredrik, this shows that you - or you in this case - - are
actively working against Hollywood, which shows intent.
Or how would you like to explain this yourself?
But then I'd rather talk about the prosecutor's internal memo- -
dated about six weeks before the raid on PRQ, where you write- -
and I quote: "The people behind The Pirate Bay are no fools."
"They have, in my opinion, studied Swedish copyright legislation"-
- "and know exactly how to stay within the framework of the law."
"In my view, you can't get a court to convict them."
End quote.
I wonder, of course, what made the prosecutor change his mind?
- New findings put the case in a new light. - Or external pressures.
- Or that the prosecutor is a jerk! - Mr. Judge demands order in the courtroom!
I remind you to only speak when you are addressed and to keep a good tone.
- Go ahead, you can continue. - Thank you.
So the beta is flying. It is a 128-bit encrypted VPN tunnel.
We're releasing it right now and linking to the front page on Pirate Bay.
- How much does it cost? - 40-50 bucks a month.
It's not that dangerous. So much for Ipred.
- They shut it down? - Put down what?
Our police report against Jim. Now they will allow him to testify.
- The trial is getting more and more bizarre. - You should be able to appeal.
I don't know if you can appeal a rejection.
I listened to the radio a bit. It seems to have gone great.
- But what the hell... - What is it?
The pirates have a new service that hides your IP address when downloading.
- Okay. - Look...
You must pay 5 euros. They can pay for this, but not for a movie.
No matter what we do, then they come up with something.
But that doesn't mean you should stop trying.
How many times did you ask me out before I said yes?
- Five. - And why didn't you give up then?
Because I fight for justice. I do it.
It's a hell of a ride, then.
Welcome to today's main hearing in the so-called Pirate Bay case.
Then I want to start by talking about the agreement we see on the screen.
How do you ensure that your signature is there?
It's like I've said before, technology has always been my focus.
Not legal documents that I don't read, because I don't understand them anyway.
All income from the advertisements went directly to the operation of the page.
I also had my own business until
Attorney General Roswall- - took it all down.
Yes, though...in this email dated April 1, 2006,
Oded writes: "I am very concerned that we are
jeopardizing"- - "a three million dollar a year business."
Yes, as you say, it is dated April 1st. /LAUGHTER/
Here we see another email from Gottfrid to Oded-
- dated January 20, 2006. And I read aloud to the court,
"Can you WU me $3,000 from my share of the TPB profits?"
TPB is then The Pirate Bay.
And WU stands for Western Union.
A way to transfer money across borders.
Pirate Bay's income comes from advertisements
- - and is paid out by the company Eastpoint
to Random Media BVI- - with address in Geneva.
From there, the money is funneled on -
- to the tax haven British Virgin Islands.
And according to the bank, it appears that Peter
Sunde has transfers - - from Random Media in the
amounts of 68,750, 92,500 - - and 37,500 kroner.
Yes, what is your take on this?
It's nothing that I remember.
- There is nothing that you remember? - No.
It was timely that you just forgot about it.
Now we will calculate how much money we have earned.
We start with an exponential function. N. Then we choose a random number.
Between 100 and 52,000.
Square root that, and you'll know what Monique's soul costs.
- The answer will be... - Damn, not pi.
So, how do you think it's going, then?
Yes, thank you. It's going well. How are things going for you?
Same. I just didn't know you could lie so much in a courtroom.
Interesting...interpretation.
The fact that Roswall keeps mixing up bits and pieces is laughable.
Sorry, what did you say?
Only that Roswall's technical competence is so rudimentary.
Shall we?
Bye, Monique.
Hello, Gottfrid.
A little too confident for my taste.
Hi, it's Peter. Can you meet me a little earlier tomorrow?
Good morning, parties and representatives. Well- come to today's main hearing.
- We start right away with... - Mr. Chairman.
I'm sorry to interrupt, but new knowledge has reached
me- - which I feel compelled to immediately serve the court.
What is that?
I have been told that counsel for the plaintiffs - Pontén and
Wadsted - - and also the chairman himself, is a member of SFU:
The Swedish Copyright Association. In addition, you sit on the
board - - of the Swedish Association for Industrial Legal Protection.
Both of these organizations represent copyright holders.
They work to satisfy their interests. They are therefore lobby groups.
In my opinion, it is nothing less than a scandal-
- that the judge has concealed his conflict of interest from the court.
Is there a risk that the trial will be annulled due to fraud?
That is for others to judge. I'm just joining SFU to keep up-to-date-
- in the subject area which is complicated. Now I don't have time for more questions.
What consequences do you think this could have?
After all, SFU is a lobby group that works for stronger copyright.
We do not have the resources to hire private investigators-
- like in some American movie, to check out who the referee is.
The trial against The Pirate Bay took an unexpected turn-
- when the referee was accused of cheating.
The defense side has notified the judge-
- and believes that there is reason for a renewed examination.
/DOOR SIGNAL/
/RUNNING STEPS ARE HEARD/
I toiled to shut down the Pirate Bay and all I got is this T-shirt!
But come on, cheers for Norström, then! Because he is so bad. Or badass.
- Cheers! - Cheers!
SFU receives a grant from Swedish Film- industry that joins and sues us.
- Everyone has each other's backs. - Embarrassing that they are so amateurish!
Norström was handpicked for the goal, in violation of the lottery rules.
"The process" all over. I feel like Josef K.
- You are. You are Josef K! - The trial must be annulled.
- There can be no alternative. - The question is whether they will take it over.
/MOBILE SIGNALS/
Good evening. The Pirate Bay trial will not be reviewed in the district court.
The judge was not rude, says the Court of Appeal, but they criticize the judge-
- because he did not report his involvement in copyright matters.
We need to stop the defendants' activities, but also mark.
I would like to add that…
...The Pirate Bay has caused major goodwill damage to film companies-
- in that their films have been available next to commercials-
- for, among other things, sexual services.
As far as I know, we have never seen the husband…
...to a more extensive infringement of copyright.
In all the technical complexity surrounding The Pirate Bay-
- so in the end it's still a fairly simple question:
Can someone be held responsible for the actions of others?
There the answer is no. It's that simple.
Just lie on your back and let fried sparrows - - fly
into your mouth - that's how it works The Pirate Bay for its users.
But when the feeling of satiety sets in, so of course interest decreases
- - to buy DVDs or go to the cinema. It follows from common sense.
The defendants spit on the authors and tell them to go to hell.
Therefore, I advocate that the court impose a very significant sentence.
There is a risk that the court will listen more to capital here-
- than the little man. Integrity on the part of the court is what is required.
Should the road be dug up because someone is driving too fast?
That is what this judgment is about.
Svartholm Warg stated in his interrogation that the
price per week for an advertisement was SEK 3,500.
If you then simply make a mathematical
application - - then it will be SEK 224,000 a week.
If you then take that number times 52, number of weeks per year -
yes, then the income from the business ends up at SEK 11.6 million.
Then Pirate Bay is not a non-profit partnership, without a pure business activity.
We will then conclude the main negotiations in case B 13301-06.
The so-called Pirate Bay target. We are now entering into deliberations.
Judgment will be announced by April 17, 2009. Thank you very much.
Interesting way to dispose of tax funds.
Does any of this matter if the whole thing is corrupt?
- Yes, absolutely crazy! - Or how? - Mm.
How does it feel?
If there's one thing Hollywood has taught us, it's that the good guys always win.
/RINGTONE/
Hello, you have come to Lee. Leave a message and I'll get back to you...
- Has it started? - Soon.
- Has it started, right? - Anytime.
- Reporter: Hello and welcome. - Now.
We broadcast live when the verdict in Pirate Bay- the goal immediately to be made public.
And now the judgment has come.
So... Then we'll see.
The defendants have intentionally committed crimes.
They have acted negligently, and their complicity implies liability.
Gottfrid Svartholm Warg is sentenced to one year in prison.
Fredrik Neij to ten months. Peter Sunde to eight months.
And Carl Lundström to four months. As well as joint and several damages-
- of SEK 46 million. Thus, the court considers that the defendants have cooperated-
- with the operation and further development of The Pirate Bay site.
They have been aware that copyrighted material is being shared
- and has intentionally promoted the copyright infringement of others.
The court thus judges that the defendants are guilty of aiding and abetting a crime.
/CELL PHONE RINGING/
/SMS SIGNAL/
/BREATHES OUT/
- Where's the champagne? - I have it set up on the toilet.
- Congratulations on the verdict. - Thank you.
Good news!
Yes! The next step is for the site to be shut down.
Yeah... It's a little tricky.
What do you mean?
Nobody knows where the servers are.
They seem to be scattered in several countries.
Is he serious?
So we have won...
...but nothing has changed?
At least it's illegal now.
- But we won, right? - What a fucking nightmare.
- What difference does it make? - None at all.
So we put in millions of dollars and years...
Washington should have intervened immediately!
/THEY SCREAM AT EACH OTHER/
- Are you coming? - Mm.
- Interpol has pretty bad security. - What the hell, have you hacked Interpol?!
It's pretty cool that we're in demand.
- They spelled your name wrong. - On mine? What does this mean?
- That you should be able to travel. - Are you sure?
- Yes, I think so. - Where are you somewhere?
You're from Interpol, right?
No, but I am in an acquaintance of the family's cabin.
I know damn well how in demand we really are. We have been to Bangkok.
- And why do you have it? - Just a little business. - Or how?
- What are you doing then, Gotte? - Nothing special. I have to go.
Have it. - He looked quite stressed, Good. How do you think it is with him?
I don't know. It's probably just stress when it's crunch time.
- What is he working on now, then? - It's something big for Wikileaks again.
How long is the prescription period?
Five years, I think.
- You should be able to tough it out. - Mm.
- You, see you. - Take care of yourself. Hello.
Then we welcome Henrik Pontén.
So he is a lawyer at the Antipiratbyrån - - and worked on
the Pirate Bay case last year. /BUANDEN/ No, stop!
You can disagree about many things, but here we stand for free speech.
We welcome the first questioner.
If I were to download something, and then admit it, what would you do?
I would ask you to stop. /LAUGHTER/ /BUANDEN/
You have invited me to speak, then I would like to do so.
/THEY SILENCE/ Thank you. Uh...
We have with us Peter, one of The Pirate Bay's founders.
You're on Skype, because if you were here, you could get arrested.
What is it like to be on the dark side of the internet?
I think I belong to the bright side.
I must be a pirate and a hacker, but I fight for a good cause.
Passport, please.
/HARD KNOCKING/
Excuse me for a moment.
- Get out of the car. - Why then?
Police!
- Peter Sunde? - No.
On with the dojos.
This is really unnecessary!
Lee! Call your mom! Get back in the car. It will be alright.
Then we go.
All.
/THE BIRD CHIRPS/
/CHIPPERS/
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