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[dramatic music playing]
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[man]
The thing inside of meis like..
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the appetite,it's like a wolf that's...
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feeling...
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...the hunger.
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[foreboding music playing]
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[TV reporter] Authorities sayresidents at this duplexon North 22nd Street
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contacted police
after finding burned clothing,
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sneakers, and human remainsinside a garbage can.
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The burnt material matcheswhat John Swainhad been wearing
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when he was last seen.
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Another resident returned homefrom vacation
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to find bloodstainson her rug.
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[suspenseful music playing]
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[mysterious music playing]
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[Alexander] Crowe communicatesa great dealby his body language.
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We have an individual
being interrogated
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by two detectives
who's cool as a cucumber.
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So that gives us a good window
in terms of just
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how devoid of emotion he isand how unworried he is.
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[Dr. Bryanna] It seems clearthat Dawnie is not only afraidof him,
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but she doesn't trust himwith his daughter,and he's hit her sister.
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This is a very aggressive,
violent, versatile criminal
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who's just doesn't obey
the law
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and doesn't think the rules
apply to him.
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[eerie music playing]
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They seemingly go out and meet
this young boy,
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18-year-old John Swain.
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They lure himback to their house,bashing his head in
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and Clark doesn't sound scared
or upset.
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He tells it like
he's explaining how he went
to the grocery store,
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which is not
what a normal person would do.
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On paper, Clark looks
a lot cleaner, right?
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He's very carefulin presenting himselfas the unwitting witness
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to Crowe's demonic plan.
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Maybe Clark is just
a little bit better
at hiding and dissimulating
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his real intentions
and his real acts
than Crowe is.
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[Alexander] You might notremember what you hadfor breakfast, right?
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But you're gonna remembercutting up a body.
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And the fact
that he refers to this
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human being,
recently deceased, as 'It'
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is further proof
of the objectification
of the victim.
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And that's very consistentwith the waya psychopath thinks.
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[news reporter]
A new development in the caseof 18-year-old John Swain.
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Bismarck police say they gota tip that Swain was buriedin the backyard
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of this Montana homewhere Theo Crowelives with his mother.
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Clark tells us, "I'm going to
fully cooperate."
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Crowe says, "I'm here
to give a confession."
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Both are vying for control
of the interaction
with the detectives.
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[Alexander]
They want to get ahead.
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They want to pushtheir narrative.
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So that they can controlthe outcome.
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And that's very psychopathic.
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I think that the way
they went about
selecting their victim
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is illustrative
of some pretty significant
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psychopathic
or antisocial tendencies.
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They identify a youngerindividual of smaller stature.
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Purposefully choosing somebodywho's isolated.
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It really feels like
they view John
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as almost a pawn in a game
that they're playing.
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[thudding]
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There's not a whole lot
of research about
whether psychopaths
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essentially draw each other,
but it makes sense.
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Imagine if you can findsomebody who's like you,
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who wants to go and dothese horrible things
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and doesn't really feel badabout it.
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If anything,
egging each other on
and showing each other.
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This is totally okay
to be this way.
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[Alexander] He catches himselfin the end again,
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he feels compelled to saythat it was hard emotionally.
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I think he had to add that
just because
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he heard himself speak,
and it sounded horrible.
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At the end of the day,
even when psychopaths
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may not know what they are,
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or they may not recognize it
entirely in another person.
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They still know
not to trust each other
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because this guy will dothe exact same thing to me
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that I'd be thinking aboutdoing to him.
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When people think
of psychopaths,
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they think they have
absolutely no emotion,
and that's actually not true.
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Here we see Crowe
all of a sudden feeling upset
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because he feels very bad
for himself.
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[Dr. Bryanna] He feelsnot at all bad for whatthey did to John Swaine.
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[man behind camera]
15:59 hours.
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Removing the tarp
and bagging it up.
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I think both Crowe
and Clark had violent
and homicidal fantasies
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that they brought out
in each other and that
that partnership
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allowed themto express desires
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that they had not hadthe outlet for in the past.
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The debate is constantly,
which is the worst psychopath.
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The factor 2 type psychopath,
which is more antisocial.
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They're typically areviolent and aggressive.
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Or the factor 1 psychopath
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who tends to maybe blend in
more with society,
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tends to be more manipulative,
charming, cunning.
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Which causes more damage?
Which is worse?
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I would say the factor 1,
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the type that is more akinto Clark.
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So I always find the chameleonto be a little more dangerous.
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[reporter]
Clark is sentencedto life in prison
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for his role in the murderof a South Dakota teenager.
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20-year-old Joshua Clarkwas convicted in July
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for his role in the killingof 18-year-old John Swain.
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His co-conspirator,26-year-old Theo Crowealso received life.
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Though justice was served,Swain's parents,Pat and David,
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say the brutality of the crimestill haunts them.
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Because it was senseless.
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[Pat] It was so horrible.
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It was just a totaldisregard of human life
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because there was no reason,none at all.
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