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NARRATOR:
In the criminal justice system
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the people are represented
by two separate
yet equally important groups,
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the police
who investigate crime
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and the district attorneys
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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We're obviously
not hitting it off
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like Bob and Marcy
thought we would.
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We don't
have to go eat dinner, okay?
We could just call it a night.
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(EXHALES) We already
came this far.
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We might as well
find this place and
get some tofu or whatever.
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Now you're
being hostile.
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Look, I'm not judging you
for eating meat, okay?
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I just prefer not to
eat beings with souls.
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(CHUCKLES)
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The Pantheists believed
plants had souls.
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How does that fit
into your paradigm?
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I choose to
draw the line
at animal matter.
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And you shouldn't litter.
We're all custodians of
the earth.
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Oh, my God.
What now?
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How long's
he been here?
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Well, the body's still warm.
M.E. says no more than
an hour.
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Looks like he was shot
on the street and then
dragged down here.
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Yeah, he took
one in the chest.
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CSU's got
the shell casings.
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Looks like
his early 50s?
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Yeah. He did pretty well,
from the looks of his clothes.
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Any ID?
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The money's still here,
so it's probably not
a robbery.
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Let's see.
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Thomas Reddick.
Pavilion Publishing. CEO.
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(SIREN WAILS)
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Looks like they publish
a string of magazines.
News, fashion.
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Well, he's on
the other side
of the camera now.
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He's on the other side,
period.
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Tomorrow's
our anniversary.
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Twenty-three years.
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ED: We're very sorry
for your loss, Mrs. Reddick.
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Our son Ted is a senior
at Brown and...
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I don't know how
I'm going to tell him.
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The last time you spoke to
your husband, he was in
his office?
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He called me at about 5:00,
just to say hi.
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I hurried him off the phone
because I was late for my
pilates class.
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ED: What time
did you get home?
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Around 7:00 or so.
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Were you
concerned at all
that he wasn't here?
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Ever since
they made him
CEO at Pavilion,
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he's had
an enormous
demand on his time.
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His office
is at Midtown.
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Any idea why he was
five blocks from here?
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(SIGHS)
The only thing
I can think is that,
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he stopped to get
a last minute
anniversary gift.
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ED: ls there anybody
in the area
he would have visited?
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(SIGHS)
Not that I know of.
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I hate to ask you
this but,
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could there have been
another party involved?
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The only other
party in our marriage
was that job, Detective.
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I used to joke that
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that job would
make me a widow.
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You know, this is
pretty impressive.
Yeah.
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And for all that
the guy ends up dead at
the bottom of a stairwell.
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I've got his
appointment book.
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I'm not sure
you should be
going through that.
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Look, we're dealing with
a homicide investigation.
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Oh, I just meant
there might be some
sensitive material there.
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That's exactly
what we're looking for.
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I was referring
to the corporate
financial information
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about the buyouts.
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Buyouts?
Of the other magazines.
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That's what Mr. Reddick's
meetings were about yesterday.
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When was his
last appointment?
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That would have been
his 6:30 with Legal.
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And that was the
last time you saw him?
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On his way upstairs.
He wasn't very happy.
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Mr. Reddick didn't
really look forward
to meetings with lawyers.
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I know the feeling.
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Pavilion Publishing just
bought out several
magazines
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to bring under
our umbrella.
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Naturally, it came
with residual baggage.
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Meaning?
Lawsuits.
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Thomas was here
for an hour or so to
discuss potential resolutions.
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Thomas was such
a driving force
in this company.
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I can't believe he's gone.
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Was there
anybody else here
besides you two?
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Several of our
in-house attorneys,
a paralegal.
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We were
evaluating the cases and
preparing settlement offers.
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Do you recall what time
Mr. Reddick left the meeting?
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I know
it was around 7:30.
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I just assumed he was
going back to his office.
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I was
on duty last night
when Mr. Reddick left.
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We've all been
working double shifts
these last few months.
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Do people
sign in and out of
the building after hours?
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If they don't have IDs,
anyone in after 6:00
signs a sheet
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and again
when they leave.
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Does that show
anybody signing out around
the time Mr. Reddick left?
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No, sir.
Not until
10 minutes later.
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This doesn't say which offices
half the people went to.
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And some of them
didn't even sign out.
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Phone rings, I can't
do six things at once.
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Was anybody
with Mr. Reddick
when he went out?
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He was by himself.
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I offered
to get him a cab,
it was freezing out,
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but he said
I should stay warm.
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Decent guy.
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Did you see him
get in the cab?
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I saw it pull up.
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I remember
because there were
a few other people out there.
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Looked like
he was talking
to one of them.
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I looked again,
the cab was gone,
so was Mr. Reddick.
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So you didn't see
if Mr. Reddick got in
the taxi by himself?
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I wasn't paying
close attention.
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Do you remember what
this person looked like?
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The one that Reddick
was talking to?
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A white guy.
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Suit and tie, overcoat.
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That's about it.
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Thanks.
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So he leaves his office
at 7:30
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and winds up dead
five blocks from home
a half hour later.
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The canvass didn't turn up
any witnesses in
the vicinity of the attack.
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Well, Ballistics said the gun
used to kill Mr. Reddick
was a Glock 9mm.
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Anything recovered from
the search of the area?
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Nothing so far.
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There were
a couple of gift shops
and florists in the area.
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So if his wife was
right about him stopping
for an anniversary present,
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he never made it.
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Wallet full of cash,
nothing taken.
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It still could have
been a robbery.
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Somebody comes along,
they scare the attacker off.
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So we're right back
to the last people
who saw him alive.
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Security guard said
Reddick left the
building alone
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and then was talking to
a white guy in a suit just
before he got into the cab.
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Only he wasn't sure if
this guy got in the
cab with Reddick.
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Now, that lawyer you
spoke with,
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didn't he say there were
other people at the meeting?
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Well, maybe this guy
in the suit was
one of them.
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Mr. Reddick
left by himself.
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He didn't offer to maybe
share a cab with anybody?
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Mmm-mmm. The rest of us
continued working on
the cases.
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The lawsuits?
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Are those them?
Yes.
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Mind if we take a look?
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Actually, all those
files are privileged.
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Okay. Can you tell us the
nature of the litigations?
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They run the gamut
from slip-and-falls
to contract disputes,
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a few sexual
harassment suits.
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Just one big
happy company.
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ED: Were there any plaintiffs
that were a problem?
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They are all a problem.
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But it wouldn't
have been in anyone's
interest to harm Thomas.
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He was the one anxious
to dispose of the suits.
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BRISCOE: Well,
what we're thinking is,
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would anybody on this list
have been interested in
disposing of him?
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IRWIN: I filed
the suit because
as a stockholder
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I disagree
with the management
decisions of the company.
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I'm guessing you're
a minority shareholder.
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I'm entitled to
express my views.
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Please don't lean
on the Chippendale.
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Maybe you wanted
to express your views
directly to Thomas Reddick.
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That's why I sued.
But as for killing him...
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Look, we spoke
to the lawyers at
the publishing company.
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They got a whole
stack of letters that
you wrote to Mr. Reddick.
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Threatening letters, Irwin.
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Look, I believe in
the pen, not the sword.
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In fact,
I got a file cabinet
full of complaint letters
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just like the one
I sent to Pavilion.
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How come I have
no problem believing that?
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So what the hell
were you so upset about?
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Pavilion is expanding
into areas
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I don't think are
in its best interest.
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Such as...
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Porn.
I mean, they were
soft core magazines,
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but buying them out was
a fundamental violation of
Pavilion's corporate mission.
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The guy
sells Chippendales,
but he objects to porn.
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(LAUGHS MOCKINGLY)
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Wonder why
Pavilion's lawyers
never mentioned it.
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It's their
dirty little secret.
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A profitable one.
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You know,
we can cross-reference
the list of plaintiffs
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from the magazine
and see what turns up.
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My agent told me
it was away to
make some easy money.
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You mean posing
for those photos?
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(SIGHS)
Rent, acting classes,
time off for auditions.
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It all takes money,
Detective.
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Money I don't have.
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So, why did you sue?
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'Cause your boyfriend
didn't like it?
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Doug doesn't understand
what it's like.
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How much competition
there is out there.
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So, he's the one who didn't
want the photos published?
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Well, they were supposed to
be for a private collection.
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Then about six months ago,
I got a letter in the mail
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saying they were
going to run them in
one of their magazines.
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ED: How did
Doug take that?
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(SIGHS) Not real well.
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Is there any chance
that your boyfriend
could have known
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Pavilion was
going to talk about
your lawsuit that night?
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AMANDA: Why?
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We just need to speak
to anybody that might
have been involved.
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Look, Doug was pissed,
but that's all.
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He couldn't have had
anything to do with it.
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He works two jobs.
Nights he tends bar.
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Doug never
showed up that night.
He say why?
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Said he forgot.
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Kid's been with me
over a year.
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I gotta cut him
some slack, you know.
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What do you guys
want to talk to
him about?
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His girlfriend.
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Amanda.
You know her?
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Yeah, sure.
She comes in here
all the time.
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Whoa, whoa. Doug didn't
do something stupid,
now did he?
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Why do you say that?
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Well, the kid's upset,
you know.
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I mean, this girl's
the girl of his dreams,
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if we can all remember
what that's like.
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You know, the stuff about
the pictures comes out,
you know.
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He talked about it?
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Yeah, sure. It's all
he could talk about.
I tried to tell him,
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I said, "Look,
it's not the end of
the world or anything."
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But he didn't
see it that way.
No.
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The guys at
the construction job
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started giving him
the grief, you know.
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We get lawyers in here
from time to time.
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He was always asking 'em
what he could do, you know.
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But they kept telling him
there's nothing he could do.
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So Doug didn't take no
for an answer.
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BRISCOE: Douglas Larson?
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DOUG: That's right.
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We need to talk to you
about Thomas Reddick.
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What about?
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You don't
seem surprised.
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Well, I figure it has
something to do
with Amanda.
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Then you know Mr. Reddick?
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I know who he is, yeah.
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When's the last time
you saw him?
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I've never seen him.
Look, what's this
all about?
236
00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,490
BRISCOE:
Maybe we better talk
down at the precinct.
237
00:10:59,020 --> 00:11:00,400
Are You saying
I gotta go with you?
238
00:11:00,460 --> 00:11:03,130
Look, it would help
to clear some things up.
239
00:11:03,190 --> 00:11:04,360
About Amanda.
240
00:11:05,890 --> 00:11:07,130
Can I at least change?
241
00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:08,400
BRISCOE:
Oh, don't worry about it.
242
00:11:08,460 --> 00:11:11,500
The kind of pictures we take
are only from the neck up.
243
00:11:11,700 --> 00:11:12,700
Let's go.
244
00:11:17,940 --> 00:11:20,110
I told you, I never
saw Reddick that night.
245
00:11:20,180 --> 00:11:21,620
But you did
go to his office.
246
00:11:21,710 --> 00:11:24,450
Your name's on the
building sign-in sheet.
247
00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,890
You recognize your
signature, Mr. Larson?
248
00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:32,870
Okay, I went up to
see Reddick,
249
00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:34,200
but he was
already gone.
250
00:11:34,620 --> 00:11:36,000
Then why go there at all?
251
00:11:36,060 --> 00:11:37,160
I just wanted
to talk to him.
252
00:11:37,230 --> 00:11:39,600
See if maybe
they'd think about what
they were doing to Amanda.
253
00:11:39,660 --> 00:11:41,370
You mean about what
they were doing to you?
254
00:11:41,430 --> 00:11:45,280
People have told us
you were pretty angry about
those pictures, Mr. Larson.
255
00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,500
What are you saying?
256
00:11:47,570 --> 00:11:50,210
Why did you
lie to your boss about
where you were that night?
257
00:11:50,270 --> 00:11:52,050
I didn't think it was
any of his business.
258
00:11:52,110 --> 00:11:55,180
The security guard said
he saw you talkin'
to Reddick
259
00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,090
that night in front
of his building.
260
00:11:57,150 --> 00:11:59,150
I told you,
I never saw him.
261
00:11:59,210 --> 00:12:01,720
He said that
you two were arguing.
262
00:12:01,780 --> 00:12:03,160
It never happened.
263
00:12:04,950 --> 00:12:07,900
Look, I went up to
Reddick's office,
he wasn't there.
264
00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,800
I came back down,
got in the car with
my friend. That's all.
265
00:12:10,930 --> 00:12:12,960
BRISCOE: What friend?
A guy I work
at the site with.
266
00:12:13,030 --> 00:12:15,200
Danny Moreno.
He gave me a ride.
267
00:12:15,860 --> 00:12:19,070
Look, you can
ask him yourself.
He was there when I came out.
268
00:12:19,670 --> 00:12:22,310
My wife temps
three blocks away.
I gave Doug a lift.
269
00:12:22,470 --> 00:12:24,750
You drove
into Midtown to
pick your wife up?
270
00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:26,150
She broke her leg
a few months ago.
271
00:12:26,210 --> 00:12:27,740
She still
has trouble
getting around.
272
00:12:27,810 --> 00:12:29,020
What's going on?
273
00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,460
Hey, did Doug
tell you why he was
going to Pavilion Publishing?
274
00:12:32,510 --> 00:12:34,720
To talk to some guy about
his girlfriend's pictures.
275
00:12:34,780 --> 00:12:37,160
Was he angry?
Of course he was.
Wouldn't you be?
276
00:12:37,220 --> 00:12:39,700
BRISCOE:
He said that you were
there when he came out.
277
00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,000
Yeah, my wife
doesn't get off till 8:00.
I found a spot on the corner.
278
00:12:43,690 --> 00:12:46,300
A man was killed
that night, Mr. Moreno.
279
00:12:46,900 --> 00:12:48,030
This man.
280
00:12:48,100 --> 00:12:50,300
Actually there were
a couple of guys
281
00:12:50,370 --> 00:12:51,900
and I think one of
them was a black guy.
282
00:12:51,970 --> 00:12:53,810
Looked to me like
they had some sort of beef.
283
00:12:53,870 --> 00:12:55,250
Might've been him,
I don't know.
284
00:12:55,300 --> 00:12:57,110
BRISCOE:
Can you describe
who was with him?
285
00:12:57,170 --> 00:12:58,480
Two white guys.
ED: Two white guys?
286
00:12:58,540 --> 00:12:59,580
Right.
287
00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,210
Did you notice
if they all came out
of the same building?
288
00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:03,690
I didn't see.
289
00:13:03,750 --> 00:13:05,250
Did you see if
they left together?
290
00:13:05,350 --> 00:13:06,660
Black guy
got in the cab,
291
00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,660
then the other two
flagged down another one
a couple of seconds later.
292
00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:10,790
Anything else
you can tell us?
293
00:13:10,850 --> 00:13:12,800
Just that
the white guys
seemed in a hurry.
294
00:13:12,860 --> 00:13:14,460
I noticed that 'cause
they started helping
a lady
295
00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,800
who was already in the cab
take her luggage out of
the back.
296
00:13:16,860 --> 00:13:19,810
It was one of those,
you know, minivan
type taxis.
297
00:13:21,860 --> 00:13:24,140
So, we're not looking for
one white guy in a suit.
Now it's two.
298
00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,370
Oh, well, that just
narrows it right down.
299
00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,540
And we're sure Doug Larson
wasn't one of them?
300
00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,590
Only time you'd
find him in a suit would
be at a wedding or a funeral.
301
00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,210
Okay, so this witness sees
these two guys with
Reddick arguing.
302
00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,480
Although he's not sure
he saw them come out
of the same building.
303
00:13:37,550 --> 00:13:39,080
Well, if they had something
to do with the murder,
304
00:13:39,150 --> 00:13:41,150
then they had to follow him
in the second cab.
305
00:13:41,220 --> 00:13:43,790
Or they knew
where Reddick was
going in the first place.
306
00:13:43,850 --> 00:13:45,090
Well, the only way
to find out
307
00:13:45,150 --> 00:13:46,890
is to talk to
the second cabbie.
308
00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:48,770
Oh, that ought
to be easy.
309
00:13:51,060 --> 00:13:55,100
Taxi and Limousine Commission
says there's 382 minivan type
cabs in the city.
310
00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:56,610
They tell you
which companies use them?
311
00:13:56,670 --> 00:13:58,240
Yeah, mainly
the independents.
312
00:13:58,300 --> 00:14:00,910
Guy said the
sedans are lucky to have
a three-year street life.
313
00:14:00,970 --> 00:14:02,710
Minivans go for five
or more.
314
00:14:02,770 --> 00:14:03,910
There's three makes.
315
00:14:03,970 --> 00:14:07,150
Isuzu Oasis,
Chevy Venture
and Honda Odyssey.
316
00:14:07,210 --> 00:14:08,880
Here's a list of
the independents.
317
00:14:08,940 --> 00:14:11,220
We can pull
the registrations
from the DMV.
318
00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,060
Please tell me they weren't
all on the road that night.
319
00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,190
I had just gotten back
from JFK.
320
00:14:17,250 --> 00:14:20,130
I was about to go
back to the airport when
these two guys jumped in.
321
00:14:20,190 --> 00:14:21,460
One of them
gave me $50.
322
00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,730
I figured, airport business
isn't what it used to be
anyway, so...
323
00:14:24,790 --> 00:14:25,900
Where'd you take 'em?
324
00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,770
The West Side.
The Seventies.
325
00:14:27,830 --> 00:14:28,830
You're sure?
326
00:14:28,900 --> 00:14:31,310
Yes, one of them wanted me
to follow this other cab.
327
00:14:31,370 --> 00:14:32,710
At first,
I started to laugh.
328
00:14:32,770 --> 00:14:34,770
I thought maybe
I was on Spy TV.
329
00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,320
But then the one guy,
he tells me to shut up
330
00:14:36,370 --> 00:14:37,850
and keep my eyes
on the other cab.
331
00:14:37,910 --> 00:14:39,350
That is why I remember.
332
00:14:39,780 --> 00:14:41,150
So what happened
when you dropped
them off?
333
00:14:41,380 --> 00:14:42,980
The one
who gave me
the money got out.
334
00:14:43,050 --> 00:14:45,150
The other one I took
back across the park.
335
00:14:45,210 --> 00:14:46,320
BRISCOE: So, they
didn't both get out?
336
00:14:46,380 --> 00:14:49,120
No, no, just the one.
The other guy wanted
to go home.
337
00:14:49,180 --> 00:14:51,630
So, what did the first guy
do when he got out?
338
00:14:51,690 --> 00:14:53,930
He went off into the
direction of the other cab.
339
00:14:53,990 --> 00:14:55,470
After that, I didn't see.
340
00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,830
Do you remember
where you dropped
the second guy off?
341
00:14:57,890 --> 00:15:01,770
82nd and York, I think
But I could check
my trip sheet.
342
00:15:01,830 --> 00:15:04,140
BRISCOE: You remember
anything else about
these guys?
343
00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:05,440
Just that the one
was real angry.
344
00:15:05,500 --> 00:15:06,810
ED: Angry?
Angry about what?
345
00:15:06,870 --> 00:15:08,780
I couldn't hear.
Just the other one.
346
00:15:08,870 --> 00:15:10,750
He kept saying
how it is not worth it.
347
00:15:10,810 --> 00:15:12,790
Kept trying
to get his friend
to go back to some bar.
348
00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:13,910
What bar?
349
00:15:13,980 --> 00:15:15,420
Had to be near
where I picked
them up.
350
00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,320
He kept on talking
about the waitress.
A redhead.
351
00:15:19,250 --> 00:15:21,630
We get a lot of customers
from the building
after work.
352
00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,060
Brokers, lawyers.
353
00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,120
You made quite
an impression
on this guy.
354
00:15:25,190 --> 00:15:27,030
He was talking about you
in the cab.
355
00:15:27,090 --> 00:15:28,360
Nothing stands out.
356
00:15:28,420 --> 00:15:31,370
Okay, this guy had a friend.
They would have left
around 7:30.
357
00:15:31,430 --> 00:15:33,460
That's happy hour.
It's a mob scene in here.
358
00:15:33,530 --> 00:15:36,700
Well, we're gonna need all
your charge receipts
from that night.
359
00:15:36,770 --> 00:15:38,040
My manager could
get those for you,
360
00:15:38,100 --> 00:15:40,080
but usually
guys just pay cash.
361
00:15:40,140 --> 00:15:42,270
Hey, did anybody
try to hook up with you?
362
00:15:42,340 --> 00:15:43,540
Ask for your number?
363
00:15:44,510 --> 00:15:46,010
Hang on a minute.
364
00:15:46,980 --> 00:15:50,620
Hook up?
Were these guys trying
to get laid or tow her car?
365
00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:51,990
(CHUCKLES)
366
00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,560
I don't give out my number.
But sometimes guys give me
their business cards.
367
00:15:55,620 --> 00:15:58,120
These are from the
past couple of nights.
368
00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,840
I had no idea that was
the guy who was killed.
369
00:16:04,930 --> 00:16:06,430
So, you don't
read the paper?
370
00:16:06,500 --> 00:16:09,200
Look, if I would
have known, I would have...
371
00:16:09,260 --> 00:16:13,440
Well, now you do know.
So why don't you tell us
what happened, Mr. Turner?
372
00:16:13,940 --> 00:16:16,470
Or we can
put your ass
in a line-up.
373
00:16:16,540 --> 00:16:18,070
Should I have
a lawyer here?
374
00:16:18,170 --> 00:16:20,710
If you don't
start telling us
what happened, yeah.
375
00:16:23,910 --> 00:16:26,120
I had a drink with Ray.
Ray Burrows.
376
00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:27,930
Mr. Burrows
works here, too?
377
00:16:27,980 --> 00:16:30,330
Used to.
Not anymore.
378
00:16:30,390 --> 00:16:32,520
So you met him for
a drink. Then what?
379
00:16:32,590 --> 00:16:33,660
I went home.
380
00:16:34,590 --> 00:16:37,630
Mr. Turner, we know that
you followed Mr. Reddick
in a taxi.
381
00:16:38,090 --> 00:16:41,200
Then you know
I'm telling the truth
about going home.
382
00:16:41,260 --> 00:16:44,270
We think
you know more about
what happened than that.
383
00:16:45,770 --> 00:16:48,270
Are you gonna tell us
or am I gonna slap
cuffs on you?
384
00:16:50,770 --> 00:16:52,550
We came out of the bar.
385
00:16:53,410 --> 00:16:55,150
Ray got a cab.
386
00:16:56,010 --> 00:16:57,720
This other guy
walks up to it.
387
00:16:57,780 --> 00:16:58,920
BRISCOE:
Thomas Reddick.
388
00:16:58,980 --> 00:17:00,980
The black guy
who got killed.
389
00:17:01,050 --> 00:17:02,790
I didn't know his name.
390
00:17:04,190 --> 00:17:07,570
He starts to get in,
Ray puts an arm on him,
tells him that's our cab.
391
00:17:08,890 --> 00:17:10,630
It just escalated
from there.
392
00:17:11,790 --> 00:17:13,070
Wait a minute.
393
00:17:13,130 --> 00:17:15,110
You're telling us
that this whole thing
394
00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,010
was because of
an argument over a taxi?
395
00:17:19,130 --> 00:17:20,370
Yeah.
396
00:17:23,410 --> 00:17:25,910
Great. Search warrant's
in the building.
397
00:17:26,170 --> 00:17:28,550
Now, we're sure
Turner's not gonna
tip off his friend?
398
00:17:28,610 --> 00:17:30,680
Not from the jail cell
we got him sitting in.
399
00:17:30,750 --> 00:17:32,920
We're holding him for
a material witness order.
400
00:17:32,980 --> 00:17:34,890
Figure it's better
to be safe than sorry
401
00:17:34,950 --> 00:17:36,260
till the warrant
gets here.
402
00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,130
And this whole thing
comes out of
a dispute over a cab?
403
00:17:39,190 --> 00:17:40,760
BRISCOE: Looks that way.
404
00:17:40,820 --> 00:17:42,200
Here's the warrant,
Lieutenant,
405
00:17:42,260 --> 00:17:43,930
signed, sealed and delivered.
406
00:17:43,990 --> 00:17:45,490
VAN BUREN: Thanks.
407
00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,770
Ain't this something?
408
00:17:48,830 --> 00:17:52,400
Black man finally gets a cab
in this city and gets
killed for it.
409
00:17:56,770 --> 00:17:58,010
BURROWS:
This is way
out of line.
410
00:17:58,070 --> 00:18:00,990
Most people would say
killing a man for a taxi
is way out of line.
411
00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,350
Yeah, most people don't know
their ass from their elbow.
412
00:18:03,410 --> 00:18:05,520
You know your ass
from your elbow,
Detective?
413
00:18:05,580 --> 00:18:06,990
I know an ass
when I see one.
414
00:18:07,050 --> 00:18:08,120
Well, I'll tell you
what, Tonto,
415
00:18:08,180 --> 00:18:10,030
if that's
all you've got,
then get the hell out.
416
00:18:10,090 --> 00:18:11,530
I have a date tonight.
417
00:18:11,590 --> 00:18:13,900
Yeah, I bet you're
a real pistol, too.
418
00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:15,130
Hey, Ed.
ED: Yeah?
419
00:18:15,420 --> 00:18:17,230
Rounds for a 9mm.
420
00:18:17,290 --> 00:18:19,930
Oh, now you can show us
where the gun is, Kemosabe.
421
00:18:20,260 --> 00:18:21,260
I don't have a gun.
422
00:18:21,330 --> 00:18:24,140
Oh, no?
What do you do,
throw the bullets?
423
00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:25,510
ED: Lennie.
424
00:18:30,140 --> 00:18:31,280
Take this.
425
00:18:34,110 --> 00:18:36,250
Put your hands
behind your back.
No, not for you.
426
00:18:36,310 --> 00:18:37,310
For him.
427
00:18:37,380 --> 00:18:39,330
You'll do whatever the hell
I tell you to do.
428
00:18:39,380 --> 00:18:40,720
Now, turn around.
429
00:18:41,950 --> 00:18:43,090
(LAUGHS)
430
00:18:43,150 --> 00:18:44,490
I want to see my lawyer.
431
00:18:44,590 --> 00:18:46,460
Oh, sure.
We'll just
step outside
432
00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,800
and my partner here
will flag you a cab.
433
00:18:48,860 --> 00:18:50,000
ED: Come on.
434
00:18:54,700 --> 00:18:58,840
Ballistics matched the gun
as the weapon that killed
Mr. Reddick.
435
00:18:58,900 --> 00:19:00,710
Burrows make
any statements
about the shooting?
436
00:19:00,770 --> 00:19:04,050
Never got a chance to.
The guy lawyered up
first thing.
437
00:19:04,110 --> 00:19:05,880
SERENA: He's got no
prior criminal history.
438
00:19:05,940 --> 00:19:08,890
And we also
haven't been able to
establish any contact
439
00:19:08,940 --> 00:19:12,360
between him and Reddick
prior to the argument
over the cab.
440
00:19:12,610 --> 00:19:14,490
So what's the theory?
He just snapped?
441
00:19:14,550 --> 00:19:17,090
According to Turner,
they followed the
victim's cab
442
00:19:17,150 --> 00:19:19,830
for almost 20 minutes
before the attack.
443
00:19:20,590 --> 00:19:23,400
Which should have been
plenty of time to
cool off.
444
00:19:24,430 --> 00:19:26,000
What the hell's
his problem?
445
00:19:26,060 --> 00:19:28,670
We think
he killed this man
because he was black.
446
00:19:29,730 --> 00:19:31,940
The guy went crazy
when I tried to cuff him.
447
00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,100
SERENA:
So it's a hate crime.
448
00:19:33,170 --> 00:19:35,650
VAN BUREN: Look, the man's
walking around with
a loaded 9mm,
449
00:19:35,700 --> 00:19:37,650
uses it
without provocation.
450
00:19:37,870 --> 00:19:39,410
May not have
been premeditated,
451
00:19:39,470 --> 00:19:42,180
but it sure seems
pretty damned calculated.
452
00:19:45,750 --> 00:19:48,850
My client's been
completely cooperative
with this investigation.
453
00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,950
Which is the only reason
he hasn't been indicted.
454
00:19:51,020 --> 00:19:54,490
Indicted for what?
Scott never even
got out of that cab.
455
00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,370
Look, I told you
what happened.
456
00:19:56,630 --> 00:19:59,270
But you haven't told us
why it happened,
Mr. Turner.
457
00:19:59,330 --> 00:20:02,640
Yeah, like why your friend
Ray was walkin' around
with a gun.
458
00:20:02,700 --> 00:20:03,730
I never saw a gun.
459
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,640
ED: Yeah, but you knew
he had one.
460
00:20:05,700 --> 00:20:07,480
That's why you and Ray
were so brave that night.
461
00:20:07,540 --> 00:20:10,850
SHIELDS: Look,
I represent this man
as a material witness.
462
00:20:10,910 --> 00:20:12,720
If he's becoming a target
in this investigation,
463
00:20:12,770 --> 00:20:14,410
he has a right to know.
464
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,010
You knew your friend.
465
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,020
You heard him
ask the driver to
follow the victim.
466
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,460
Don't pretend
you had no idea
what would happen.
467
00:20:24,190 --> 00:20:25,560
What are you after?
468
00:20:26,350 --> 00:20:29,160
All statements made
by Ray Burrows during
the initial altercation
469
00:20:29,220 --> 00:20:31,400
with the victim and
throughout the cab ride.
470
00:20:31,460 --> 00:20:33,600
In other words,
we want to know
if your buddy Ray
471
00:20:33,660 --> 00:20:35,040
called him a nigger.
472
00:20:40,270 --> 00:20:42,580
Turner says Burrows used
repeated racial epithets
473
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,080
during the argument
and throughout
the cab ride.
474
00:20:46,370 --> 00:20:47,480
What about at the scene?
475
00:20:47,540 --> 00:20:49,080
There's no eyewitness.
476
00:20:50,180 --> 00:20:53,590
Which means that his lawyer
can argue that racist or not,
477
00:20:53,650 --> 00:20:55,530
this was just
a crime of opportunity.
478
00:20:55,580 --> 00:20:58,090
Not if we can show Burrows
has been involved in
other incidents.
479
00:20:58,150 --> 00:21:01,070
Turner mentioned
another altercation with
a black salesman at work.
480
00:21:01,120 --> 00:21:02,160
Talk to him.
481
00:21:02,220 --> 00:21:05,500
Before we play the race card,
I want to see the whole deck.
482
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,510
I'm not surprised.
Frankly, it was only
a matter of time.
483
00:21:12,570 --> 00:21:14,880
What makes you say that?
484
00:21:14,940 --> 00:21:17,180
A few months ago,
Burrows barged
into my office
485
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,720
and accused me
of stealing a client.
486
00:21:19,770 --> 00:21:21,340
Why did he think that?
487
00:21:21,410 --> 00:21:23,080
The client was black.
488
00:21:23,140 --> 00:21:25,780
Apparently he thought
Ray was condescending.
489
00:21:25,850 --> 00:21:27,720
So what happened?
490
00:21:27,780 --> 00:21:29,850
The manager reassigned
the client to me,
491
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,730
and when Burrows found out,
he hit the roof.
492
00:21:31,790 --> 00:21:33,630
He started screaming that
we were all out to get him.
493
00:21:33,690 --> 00:21:35,130
You know, black people.
494
00:21:35,790 --> 00:21:39,900
And he called me
an affirmative
action incompetent
495
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,100
and few other things
I'd rather not repeat.
496
00:21:43,500 --> 00:21:45,380
What did you do?
497
00:21:45,430 --> 00:21:49,380
I was about to smack him
in his mouth only
that's when I saw his gun.
498
00:21:50,470 --> 00:21:52,150
He had a gun?
499
00:21:52,210 --> 00:21:53,690
In his waistband.
500
00:21:53,740 --> 00:21:55,190
Pulled back his jacket
so I could see it.
501
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:56,310
What did you do?
502
00:21:56,380 --> 00:21:58,290
I backed the hell off.
503
00:21:58,350 --> 00:22:01,190
I mean,
I thought he was
going to shoot me.
504
00:22:01,250 --> 00:22:03,630
And then something
caught his attention
and he walked out.
505
00:22:03,950 --> 00:22:05,560
Did you report
this to anyone?
506
00:22:05,620 --> 00:22:07,220
Told the boss.
507
00:22:07,290 --> 00:22:08,290
What was done?
508
00:22:09,260 --> 00:22:10,740
Burrows was fired.
509
00:22:12,360 --> 00:22:16,240
You know,
it took me over a month
before I could sleep again.
510
00:22:17,770 --> 00:22:19,440
I still think about it.
511
00:22:22,870 --> 00:22:25,780
The incident
with the co-worker
was not an isolated event.
512
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,010
Pretty much everybody
I spoke to said
the same thing.
513
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,420
Burrows goes out of his
way to let people know
how he feels.
514
00:22:31,980 --> 00:22:34,460
He even
wrote a letter
to his co-op board
515
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,660
trying to get them
to reject a couple buying
an apartment in his building.
516
00:22:39,020 --> 00:22:42,190
Apparently Mr. Burrows
has a problem
with interracial couples.
517
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,560
You'd at least think
he'd try to be subtle.
518
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,900
Call his lawyer.
Set up a meeting.
519
00:22:49,630 --> 00:22:51,370
We're going
with a hate crime.
520
00:22:52,470 --> 00:22:53,710
(SIGHS)
521
00:22:55,700 --> 00:22:58,210
He deserves all the time
we can give him.
522
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,080
ARCHER: You can't be serious.
523
00:23:02,380 --> 00:23:04,410
That's five years on
top of the murder charge.
524
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,650
Your client hunted down
a total stranger,
killed him in cold blood.
525
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,250
Offer's 20-to-life.
526
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,590
It was rage reaction
to a dispute over a taxi.
527
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,500
He followed this man
through traffic for
over 20 minutes.
528
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,200
Engaged in conversation,
paid the driver.
529
00:23:19,260 --> 00:23:22,760
There's more than sufficient
attenuation to preclude
any rage defense.
530
00:23:22,830 --> 00:23:24,610
He's got
no criminal record.
531
00:23:24,970 --> 00:23:27,740
Well, then,
he hit the jackpot
the first time out.
532
00:23:28,540 --> 00:23:30,480
At least let's take
the hate crime off the table.
533
00:23:30,540 --> 00:23:33,180
Mr. Burrows put it
on the table
in the first place.
534
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:34,410
In writing.
535
00:23:36,710 --> 00:23:39,160
Which leaves me no choice
but to do the same.
536
00:23:39,210 --> 00:23:41,560
You'll have my motion
by the end of the day.
537
00:23:46,350 --> 00:23:49,560
Not only can't they
link this co-op board
letter to the homicide,
538
00:23:49,620 --> 00:23:51,230
but they can't establish
that the crime
539
00:23:51,290 --> 00:23:52,860
had anything to
do with race at all.
540
00:23:52,930 --> 00:23:55,070
We can
show a history
of racist attitudes
541
00:23:55,130 --> 00:23:57,080
and the statements
he made in the cab.
542
00:23:57,130 --> 00:24:00,110
Your Honor, this letter
would be so inflammatory.
It would be so prejudicial.
543
00:24:00,170 --> 00:24:01,310
That's exactly the point.
544
00:24:01,370 --> 00:24:03,110
The hate crime statute
requires us to prove
545
00:24:03,170 --> 00:24:05,650
that the victim was targeted
because of his race.
546
00:24:06,270 --> 00:24:10,690
This letter provides a jury
with a context to evaluate
the defendant's motive.
547
00:24:11,910 --> 00:24:13,260
Let it in.
548
00:24:13,310 --> 00:24:15,230
Ray.
No, I'm tired
of all of this.
549
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,260
Tired of hiding.
I did the right thing.
550
00:24:17,890 --> 00:24:19,890
Your Honor, please,
I'd like to call for
an immediate adjournment.
551
00:24:19,950 --> 00:24:21,230
I don't want
an adjournment.
552
00:24:21,290 --> 00:24:24,530
What I want is
for a jury to hear
why I shot the bastard.
553
00:24:24,590 --> 00:24:26,700
Judge, I object to
this entire proceeding.
554
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,570
It's your own motion,
Mr. Archer.
555
00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:31,310
BURROWS: Let 'em
see that letter, Judge.
556
00:24:31,370 --> 00:24:34,140
Let a jury hear
the truth for once.
557
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,700
Once a jury
of my peers does,
558
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,480
they'll see that
we're the ones on the
endangered species list.
559
00:24:39,540 --> 00:24:42,080
Obviously I have to
consult with my client.
560
00:24:42,140 --> 00:24:44,780
JUDGE: Talk to him about
anything you want, Counselor.
561
00:24:44,850 --> 00:24:46,220
I've heard enough.
562
00:24:47,380 --> 00:24:50,450
The defendant's letter
to the co-op board
comes in.
563
00:24:51,420 --> 00:24:55,870
The defendant's history
of his racist attitudes
comes in.
564
00:24:56,390 --> 00:24:59,460
But what I will not do
is allow the People
565
00:24:59,530 --> 00:25:03,030
to use
what your client
just said right here.
566
00:25:05,900 --> 00:25:08,780
You're sure this wasn't
some sort of stunt
his lawyer pulled?
567
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,440
Archer did everything
but stuff a sock in
his mouth.
568
00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:14,080
Well, maybe he should have.
He just walked
into a five-year enhancement
569
00:25:14,140 --> 00:25:16,620
of the murder charge.
What is he, nuts?
570
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,390
You may not be far off.
571
00:25:18,450 --> 00:25:22,020
Archer just filed notice
of his intent to offer
psychiatric evidence.
572
00:25:22,620 --> 00:25:24,100
An insanity defense.
573
00:25:24,420 --> 00:25:26,190
Based on what?
Racism.
574
00:25:26,690 --> 00:25:30,600
He claims Burrows' hatred
of blacks rises to some
sort of paranoid delusion.
575
00:25:31,330 --> 00:25:33,860
The only delusion here
is Archer's.
576
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,710
I have a duty to defend
my client any way I see fit.
577
00:25:38,770 --> 00:25:39,900
Within the bounds of law.
578
00:25:39,970 --> 00:25:42,850
Racism has never been
legally recognized as
a mental defect.
579
00:25:43,670 --> 00:25:47,680
I now have an expert witness,
Your Honor, and he's willing
to testify.
580
00:25:47,740 --> 00:25:49,620
Some rent-a-doc,
Mr. Archer?
581
00:25:49,740 --> 00:25:52,190
No, a psychiatrist from
the Yale Medical School
582
00:25:52,650 --> 00:25:54,220
and an African-American.
583
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,200
JUDGE: And he will testify
to exactly what, Mr. Archer?
584
00:25:57,250 --> 00:26:01,760
That extreme racism is
a form of mental illness
that should be recognized
585
00:26:01,820 --> 00:26:04,900
by the Diagnostic
and Statistical Manual
of Mental Disorders.
586
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,730
Meaning that it isn't.
587
00:26:06,790 --> 00:26:11,770
I'm not going to have
my court turned upside down
with speculation, Counselor.
588
00:26:11,830 --> 00:26:15,470
A Massachusetts court
has already accepted
the theory
589
00:26:15,540 --> 00:26:18,920
that racially paranoid
beliefs constitute
a mental defect.
590
00:26:20,010 --> 00:26:22,890
Look, all I am asking
is for a chance to
present my case.
591
00:26:22,940 --> 00:26:25,550
What he's asking for
is a free pass.
592
00:26:25,610 --> 00:26:29,560
He does have the right
to use any defense
cognizable at law.
593
00:26:29,620 --> 00:26:32,560
And like it or not,
this one is.
594
00:26:36,690 --> 00:26:40,330
No jury in New York's going
to buy an insanity defense
from an admitted racist.
595
00:26:40,430 --> 00:26:42,470
It gets a little easier
when judges let experts
596
00:26:42,530 --> 00:26:44,410
testify he's delusional.
597
00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:46,000
Try selling it
to a black juror.
598
00:26:46,070 --> 00:26:48,640
Only takes one
to hang a jury, Jack.
599
00:26:48,700 --> 00:26:51,120
Have you taken a look
at their expert's CV?
600
00:26:51,170 --> 00:26:52,850
I mean, this psychiatrist
is no quack.
601
00:26:53,510 --> 00:26:56,390
If he believes what's in his
own report, he's not far off.
602
00:26:56,940 --> 00:26:59,930
Why? Because psychiatry
doesn't agree with him?
603
00:27:00,420 --> 00:27:02,050
You know,
at one time or another
604
00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:04,320
there was no precedent for
most of the mental disorders
605
00:27:04,390 --> 00:27:05,760
we now allow in court.
606
00:27:05,820 --> 00:27:08,030
JACK: And I've spent
more than 20 years
in this office
607
00:27:08,090 --> 00:27:10,300
making sure there are
less of them, not more.
608
00:27:11,330 --> 00:27:13,670
The last time,
it was a black defendant
609
00:27:13,730 --> 00:27:16,570
trying to justify
a murder on black rage.
610
00:27:16,630 --> 00:27:18,540
I'd no more accept
that nonsense than this.
611
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,900
Yeah, the irony is though
if there's any truth to
this theory,
612
00:27:23,710 --> 00:27:28,020
and if we'd been
treating racism as
a mental illness all along,
613
00:27:28,580 --> 00:27:30,610
maybe we wouldn't
have a Ray Burrows.
614
00:27:30,910 --> 00:27:32,650
Or there'd be more of them.
615
00:27:33,750 --> 00:27:35,090
The only way
to prevent that
616
00:27:35,150 --> 00:27:37,220
is to hold people
responsible for
their actions.
617
00:27:45,090 --> 00:27:47,570
You know what I read
that crystallized it
for me?
618
00:27:47,630 --> 00:27:49,670
Why don't you tell me?
619
00:27:49,730 --> 00:27:53,080
An account by a guy who
went around shooting MRCs.
620
00:27:54,270 --> 00:27:55,610
MRCs?
621
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,320
Mixed racial couples.
622
00:28:01,110 --> 00:28:05,150
See the key is,
he always had to
shoot the black guy first
623
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,960
if he was going
to shoot them both.
624
00:28:08,020 --> 00:28:10,000
Why is that, Ray?
625
00:28:10,050 --> 00:28:11,890
Because if he shot
the white woman first,
626
00:28:11,950 --> 00:28:14,130
then the black man
would just run away.
627
00:28:14,490 --> 00:28:19,530
But if he shot him first,
then the white woman
would stay to help.
628
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,770
Then the shooter
could get them both.
629
00:28:24,830 --> 00:28:27,540
The point is you believe
black men are cowards.
630
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,280
Well, the empirical evidence
seems to bear that out,
wouldn't you say?
631
00:28:31,340 --> 00:28:34,010
I'm more interested
in what you have to say.
632
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,080
You're aware your lawyer's
claiming you're delusional
633
00:28:36,140 --> 00:28:37,820
because you hold
just these kinds of views?
634
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,050
(MUTTERS)
635
00:28:39,110 --> 00:28:41,320
Well, I'm not delusional.
Anyone who doesn't see
636
00:28:41,380 --> 00:28:44,190
that this country's being
taken away from guys like
you and me
637
00:28:44,250 --> 00:28:46,030
is the one
who's delusional.
638
00:28:47,290 --> 00:28:50,290
You think minorities
are out to get you,
Mr. Burrows?
639
00:28:51,190 --> 00:28:53,370
We both know that they are.
640
00:28:55,330 --> 00:28:57,780
Don't tell me
that if you were
about to get on an airplane
641
00:28:57,830 --> 00:29:00,440
and there was
an Arab in line that
you wouldn't check him out
642
00:29:00,500 --> 00:29:02,780
just a little bit harder?
643
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,620
Is that delusion, Doc?
644
00:29:10,550 --> 00:29:12,420
What's your impression
of him?
645
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,020
In my opinion,
Ray Burrows is
one scary dude.
646
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,890
But he fully appreciated
the nature of his actions.
647
00:29:17,950 --> 00:29:19,520
You're basing this
on what?
648
00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:22,500
The fact that racism
is not a mental illness.
649
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,260
Yale shrink
or no Yale shrink.
650
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:25,960
No matter how severe
his delusions are
651
00:29:26,030 --> 00:29:28,130
that black people
pose a threat to him?
652
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,180
Mr. Burrows
could use a course
in anger management,
653
00:29:30,230 --> 00:29:32,610
but he definitely knew
what he'd done was wrong.
654
00:29:32,670 --> 00:29:36,340
Believe me, nobody tries
that hard to convince me
they're right otherwise.
655
00:29:40,340 --> 00:29:42,320
So what did Skoda
have to say?
656
00:29:42,380 --> 00:29:43,790
What we expected.
657
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,060
Do you agree with him?
658
00:29:46,110 --> 00:29:47,590
I'm just second chair.
659
00:29:47,650 --> 00:29:49,530
Oh, you don't
have an opinion?
660
00:29:52,150 --> 00:29:56,970
An opinion about whether
a racist should escape
responsibility for murder?
661
00:30:00,900 --> 00:30:03,140
(CLEARS THROAT)
You mean you want
the truth?
662
00:30:04,930 --> 00:30:06,570
I've been with Jack
for about six months,
663
00:30:06,630 --> 00:30:10,910
and all I ever hear
are people making excuses
about killing other people.
664
00:30:12,070 --> 00:30:13,610
We have to
hold them accountable.
665
00:30:14,510 --> 00:30:16,720
So you'd just dismiss
treatment options?
666
00:30:16,780 --> 00:30:19,880
You make it sound like there
are treatment options
for racists.
667
00:30:20,180 --> 00:30:21,490
There aren't.
668
00:30:21,550 --> 00:30:23,650
No. There may never be.
669
00:30:24,490 --> 00:30:26,400
But still, you know,
you can't let fear
670
00:30:26,450 --> 00:30:28,590
dictate your decisions
about criminal justice.
671
00:30:28,890 --> 00:30:31,890
Everyone's afraid, Nora.
I'm afraid.
672
00:30:33,230 --> 00:30:35,540
And it just seems like
after what happened
with the Towers,
673
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,700
the last thing we want to do
is give people a blank check
to act on their hatred.
674
00:30:42,100 --> 00:30:44,140
That's interesting.
675
00:30:48,210 --> 00:30:52,180
Doctor, is it your opinion
that at the time of the crime
676
00:30:52,250 --> 00:30:54,850
my client suffered
from a mental disease
677
00:30:54,950 --> 00:30:58,020
which precluded his capacity
to appreciate right
from wrong?
678
00:30:58,290 --> 00:30:59,290
Yes, it is.
679
00:30:59,350 --> 00:31:00,630
And what was
that mental defect?
680
00:31:00,690 --> 00:31:01,720
Racism.
681
00:31:01,790 --> 00:31:03,170
That is
an extreme belief
682
00:31:03,220 --> 00:31:06,260
that a racial group poses
a threat, unsupported
by reality.
683
00:31:06,330 --> 00:31:09,470
Hmm. So what
about Ray Burrows?
684
00:31:09,530 --> 00:31:12,600
I believe
his racist attitudes so
interfered with his behavior
685
00:31:12,670 --> 00:31:13,940
that he thought
that killing
Mr. Reddick
686
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,880
was not only not wrong,
it actually was justified.
687
00:31:16,940 --> 00:31:19,480
You're not saying
we shouldn't
hold him accountable?
688
00:31:19,540 --> 00:31:21,610
I'm saying
he's in need of
psychiatric help.
689
00:31:21,980 --> 00:31:23,820
If we want to do anything
about prevention,
690
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,620
we must consider racism
as a form of mental disorder.
691
00:31:27,350 --> 00:31:28,850
Thank you, Doctor.
692
00:31:33,590 --> 00:31:35,690
What about blacks
killing whites?
693
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,630
It doesn't matter
who kills whom.
694
00:31:37,690 --> 00:31:40,940
Not as long
as the individual
suffers from racist delusions.
695
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,270
You're not suggesting
that African-Americans
696
00:31:43,330 --> 00:31:45,370
haven't been discriminated
against in this country?
697
00:31:45,430 --> 00:31:46,780
Of course not.
698
00:31:46,830 --> 00:31:50,080
Meaning that
you wouldn't consider
those perceptions delusional.
699
00:31:50,940 --> 00:31:52,580
Perhaps not.
700
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:53,880
So whites would be
the only ones
701
00:31:53,940 --> 00:31:56,250
who could benefit
from this diagnosis.
702
00:31:57,510 --> 00:32:01,720
You also maintain
the defendant believes
that what he did was right.
703
00:32:01,780 --> 00:32:02,990
Yes.
704
00:32:03,450 --> 00:32:06,520
How is it then
that he concealed his
crime from the police?
705
00:32:06,590 --> 00:32:09,690
Society doesn't
encourage people
to admit being racist.
706
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,070
If fact, we ostracize them
when they do.
707
00:32:12,130 --> 00:32:15,800
We did the same thing to
people suffering from
cancer in the '50s,
708
00:32:15,860 --> 00:32:17,500
AIDS in the '80s.
709
00:32:17,570 --> 00:32:20,310
You'd compare a racist
to a cancer patient?
710
00:32:20,370 --> 00:32:23,250
Only in the way
society considers them.
711
00:32:23,300 --> 00:32:26,720
Consider that Mr. Burrows
wrote a racist letter to
his co-op board.
712
00:32:26,770 --> 00:32:28,310
Nobody said
anything to him.
713
00:32:28,380 --> 00:32:30,120
Now, had he said
he was suffering
from depression,
714
00:32:30,180 --> 00:32:33,090
they may very
well have recommended
psychological treatment.
715
00:32:33,150 --> 00:32:35,820
Only there is no treatment
for the racist.
716
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,830
Because your view has
been specifically rejected
717
00:32:38,890 --> 00:32:41,370
by the American
Psychiatric Association.
718
00:32:41,420 --> 00:32:42,900
Unfortunately, yes.
719
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:47,100
In fact, racism isn't
mentioned anywhere in
the DSM-IV,
720
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,500
is it, Doctor?
721
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,410
Until 1974,
722
00:32:50,460 --> 00:32:53,670
being gay was considered
a mental disorder in
this very book.
723
00:32:53,730 --> 00:32:58,310
Until a consensus was
formed among psychiatrists
that its inclusion was wrong.
724
00:32:59,540 --> 00:33:02,820
But there's no consensus
for what you're proposing,
is there, Doctor?
725
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,720
Not at this time, no.
726
00:33:04,780 --> 00:33:08,630
A great many people think
negative thoughts about
other people,
727
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,530
but they don't break
the law because of them.
728
00:33:11,590 --> 00:33:14,860
But when racist thoughts
are coupled with threats
of violence,
729
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,730
that moves into the territory
of mental illness.
730
00:33:17,790 --> 00:33:20,170
So it's
outcome determinative.
731
00:33:20,230 --> 00:33:22,610
The racist's views
become delusional
732
00:33:22,660 --> 00:33:25,230
only when they escalate
into an act of violence.
733
00:33:25,670 --> 00:33:29,640
When the racist's mental
processes interfere
with normal functioning.
734
00:33:30,970 --> 00:33:34,040
Without regard to
whether Mr. Burrows
735
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,780
was actually able to
appreciate the nature
of his actions or not.
736
00:33:43,850 --> 00:33:45,800
It's a theory
in search of a patient.
737
00:33:47,590 --> 00:33:50,800
I know firsthand what it is
to experience prejudice,
Mr. McCoy.
738
00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:55,040
But if we continue to
deny racism as a form
of mental illness
739
00:33:55,630 --> 00:33:57,400
and attack it solely
on cultural grounds,
740
00:33:57,470 --> 00:33:59,840
we lose any chance
to treat it.
741
00:34:00,630 --> 00:34:02,080
No, sir.
742
00:34:02,140 --> 00:34:05,780
By creating an excuse,
we lose any chance to
punish it.
743
00:34:15,350 --> 00:34:16,950
In my opinion,
at the time of the crime,
744
00:34:17,020 --> 00:34:20,690
Ray Burrows was oriented
to reality and able to
control his actions.
745
00:34:21,190 --> 00:34:23,360
So you disagree with
Dr. Bernard's theory
746
00:34:23,420 --> 00:34:26,430
that racism qualifies
as a delusional disorder.
747
00:34:26,490 --> 00:34:29,300
It's pretty much
the entire
psychiatric community.
748
00:34:30,330 --> 00:34:32,310
I mean,
if we're going to say
everyone who espouses
749
00:34:32,370 --> 00:34:34,570
bigoted beliefs
has a mental illness,
750
00:34:34,940 --> 00:34:38,280
we stretch the term
mental illness
beyond any usefulness.
751
00:34:38,340 --> 00:34:41,120
What about his assertion
that racism can be treated?
752
00:34:41,180 --> 00:34:42,590
How? Through
talk therapy?
753
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,490
I doubt
that's likely to
be very effective.
754
00:34:45,910 --> 00:34:48,660
Racism simply
is not a matter of
individual pathology.
755
00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:51,700
That's why it's not
included in the DSM-IV.
756
00:34:53,020 --> 00:34:54,290
Nothing further.
757
00:34:56,090 --> 00:35:00,000
So, exactly what
research was done
758
00:35:00,060 --> 00:35:02,770
prior to removing
homosexuality
from the DSM-IV?
759
00:35:03,030 --> 00:35:04,630
A consensus was reached
760
00:35:04,700 --> 00:35:07,940
that homosexuality didn't
meet the criteria for
a mental disease.
761
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,850
Well, the fact is, it was
a social policy decision,
wasn't it, Doctor?
762
00:35:11,910 --> 00:35:14,820
The decision
wasn't based on
any research at all.
763
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,090
Now, what about racism?
What's the research
being done there?
764
00:35:19,150 --> 00:35:21,220
I'm not aware of
any research being done.
765
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,230
Again, because
the psychiatric community
766
00:35:24,290 --> 00:35:26,990
continually rejects
proposals to study
the issue.
767
00:35:28,020 --> 00:35:31,700
Which means that any lack
of inclusion of racism
768
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,240
as a mental illness
in this book,
769
00:35:34,530 --> 00:35:36,570
has very little
to do with science
770
00:35:36,630 --> 00:35:39,670
and almost everything
to do with politics.
771
00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:48,480
They say I'm sick.
I don't know.
772
00:35:48,540 --> 00:35:51,080
All I can tell you
is that I feel pretty
good about what I did.
773
00:35:51,310 --> 00:35:54,560
About killing Mr. Reddick?
That's right.
774
00:35:54,620 --> 00:35:57,720
Social courtesies mean
nothing to these people.
775
00:35:57,790 --> 00:35:59,360
I mean, you ever
try to see a movie
776
00:35:59,420 --> 00:36:00,920
with black people
in the audience?
777
00:36:00,990 --> 00:36:02,590
You can't hear a thing.
778
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,800
I mean,
the sign's up there,
"Please, no talking."
779
00:36:06,860 --> 00:36:08,640
But do they listen?
780
00:36:09,700 --> 00:36:11,270
When this guy jumped
in front of me like that,
781
00:36:11,330 --> 00:36:13,970
like he thought he was
better than me,
that was it.
782
00:36:14,900 --> 00:36:16,350
The line was drawn.
783
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,950
So what was going
through your mind?
784
00:36:19,010 --> 00:36:21,350
Here he was,
going wherever he wanted,
785
00:36:21,910 --> 00:36:24,120
doing whatever
he wanted and me...
786
00:36:25,610 --> 00:36:28,390
I mean,
they can decide they
don't want to work with me,
787
00:36:28,450 --> 00:36:31,290
but I can't say
I don't want to
live with them?
788
00:36:32,490 --> 00:36:35,590
I lost my job
because of these people.
789
00:36:35,660 --> 00:36:37,800
The bank is foreclosing
on my home.
790
00:36:37,860 --> 00:36:40,360
I was not about
to lose that cab.
791
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,280
You feel justified
taking Mr. Reddick's life
because he took your cab?
792
00:36:53,340 --> 00:36:54,720
That's right.
793
00:36:58,310 --> 00:37:00,380
Then why didn't you tell
your friend what you'd done?
794
00:37:00,850 --> 00:37:02,830
Why didn't you
tell the police?
795
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,330
They never asked.
796
00:37:04,390 --> 00:37:06,020
Because you requested
a lawyer.
797
00:37:07,220 --> 00:37:09,130
Because from
the very start,
798
00:37:09,190 --> 00:37:12,030
you were
looking for a way out,
weren't you, Mr. Burrows?
799
00:37:12,090 --> 00:37:14,500
Because you didn't want
to pay for what you'd done.
800
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:15,870
Not true.
801
00:37:17,230 --> 00:37:21,300
But you made
Mr. Reddick pay.
Pay with his life.
802
00:37:23,740 --> 00:37:26,840
And then you dragged
his body down those steps
803
00:37:26,910 --> 00:37:28,410
to hide your crime.
804
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,320
I dragged his body
down there
805
00:37:30,380 --> 00:37:33,050
because that's where
the rest of the garbage was.
806
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,430
Not all the garbage,
Mr. Burrows,
not all the garbage.
807
00:37:40,490 --> 00:37:42,360
ARCHER: Objection.
JUDGE: Sustained.
808
00:37:52,330 --> 00:37:55,110
Do you think that
African-Americans
pose a threat?
809
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,740
I know they do.
810
00:37:57,810 --> 00:38:00,450
But you've come
into contact with
other black people
811
00:38:00,510 --> 00:38:01,890
before Mr. Reddick.
812
00:38:01,940 --> 00:38:03,420
You never killed them.
813
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,850
What about this juror?
814
00:38:12,490 --> 00:38:15,230
She's been here
for the entire trial,
815
00:38:15,290 --> 00:38:18,000
and yet you don't seem
to have had a problem.
816
00:38:18,060 --> 00:38:20,130
That's a very
sensible attitude
817
00:38:20,190 --> 00:38:23,610
for a man in
your position to take,
isn't it, Mr. Burrows?
818
00:38:24,570 --> 00:38:27,550
Because she's helping to
decide your fate.
819
00:38:30,910 --> 00:38:32,890
So are you insane,
Mr. Burrows?
820
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,990
Or are you just a man
who knows how to keep
his mouth shut
821
00:38:38,050 --> 00:38:40,550
when he's supposed to
and how to lose his mind
822
00:38:40,610 --> 00:38:42,650
when his lawyer
tells him to?
823
00:38:53,290 --> 00:38:57,240
Is there anyone here who heard
what Ray Burrows said in
this courtroom
824
00:38:57,300 --> 00:39:00,070
who doesn't believe
that he is sick?
825
00:39:00,130 --> 00:39:03,050
Who doesn't
find his hatred of
other human beings,
826
00:39:03,370 --> 00:39:07,880
solely based on the
color of their skin,
so twisted,
827
00:39:08,540 --> 00:39:11,990
so abnormal that
you wouldn't be able
to find mental illness?
828
00:39:12,610 --> 00:39:16,120
My client belongs in
a psychiatric institution,
not a prison.
829
00:39:16,380 --> 00:39:18,120
You know that,
you know that.
830
00:39:18,750 --> 00:39:20,660
And yet,
in a few moments,
831
00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:23,700
the D.A. is
going to ask you to
forget what you know.
832
00:39:24,290 --> 00:39:25,700
Because as a prosecutor,
833
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,170
he is more interested
in punishing Ray Burrows
834
00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:32,470
than he is in
preventing more people
from becoming like him.
835
00:39:33,500 --> 00:39:34,980
Spare the rod,
spoil the racist.
836
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,910
That's how
his argument goes.
837
00:39:36,970 --> 00:39:39,750
But unless
we recognize racism
838
00:39:39,810 --> 00:39:42,750
as the delusional
mental disorder
that it is,
839
00:39:43,110 --> 00:39:46,520
people like my client,
they're not going to get
the treatment they need.
840
00:39:46,580 --> 00:39:50,390
Which in the final analysis
is what this case boils
down to.
841
00:39:50,780 --> 00:39:52,230
Whether as a society,
842
00:39:52,820 --> 00:39:55,300
we stand
a better chance
of preventing racism
843
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,500
by punishing someone
who commits a racist act
844
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,810
or treating them
before they can.
845
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:18,950
I'm sorry.
846
00:40:19,010 --> 00:40:22,460
This defense
would be laughable if
it weren't so dangerous.
847
00:40:23,850 --> 00:40:26,130
We live in a world
where people commit
848
00:40:26,190 --> 00:40:29,690
unspeakable violent acts
against other people.
849
00:40:30,890 --> 00:40:35,930
Terrorists, racists,
anyone who kills
out of hate.
850
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,370
Do we hold them accountable,
851
00:40:41,300 --> 00:40:44,720
or do we excuse their acts
and sit them down for a chat
852
00:40:45,240 --> 00:40:47,550
to tell them that it's wrong?
853
00:40:48,410 --> 00:40:51,410
In the world
the defense would create,
854
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,390
murderers would
never be held responsible.
855
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,190
In that world,
right and wrong
would lose all meaning.
856
00:40:59,020 --> 00:41:00,560
Killers would
become victims.
857
00:41:01,620 --> 00:41:05,040
The only one
who would benefit
from the defendant
858
00:41:05,090 --> 00:41:08,470
being found mentally ill
is the defendant.
859
00:41:10,060 --> 00:41:12,010
Not society.
860
00:41:12,070 --> 00:41:13,770
Certainly not the victim.
861
00:41:16,740 --> 00:41:19,950
Not Thomas Reddick
or his family,
862
00:41:21,580 --> 00:41:24,060
or anyone else
with his skin color.
863
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,820
To excuse Ray Burrows
because of his prejudice
864
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:31,890
only promotes racism.
865
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,700
What happened
to Thomas Reddick
866
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,930
is a crime of hate.
867
00:41:42,300 --> 00:41:46,610
To call it anything else
is to deny justice.
868
00:41:58,950 --> 00:42:00,580
Madame Foreman,
869
00:42:01,420 --> 00:42:03,020
has the jury
reached its verdict?
870
00:42:03,450 --> 00:42:04,760
We have, Your Honor.
871
00:42:04,820 --> 00:42:06,660
Will the defendant
please rise?
872
00:42:10,660 --> 00:42:12,230
What is your verdict?
873
00:42:12,290 --> 00:42:15,830
On the charge of
Murder in the Second Degree
as a Hate Crime,
874
00:42:15,900 --> 00:42:17,640
we find
the defendant guilty.
875
00:42:32,210 --> 00:42:34,420
I wonder
if Burrows will still
have a problem with minorities
876
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,520
once he gets to prison
and finds out he is one.
877
00:42:36,580 --> 00:42:37,790
Check back with him
in 40 years.
878
00:42:37,850 --> 00:42:40,490
By then,
he might be ready
for an insanity defense.
879
00:42:40,550 --> 00:42:42,690
To kill out of hate, then
be exempt from punishment,
880
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,530
that'd be
the real insanity.
72080
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