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NARRATOR:
In the criminal justice system
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the people are represented
by two separate
yet equally important groups,
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the police
who investigate crime
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and the district attorneys
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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You set the alarm?
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Every night.
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Doesn't hurt to ask.
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Do I ever forget?
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Twice.
Twice you forgot.
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Oh, twice in 15 years,
and you never let me
forget it.
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Hey! Maniac!
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(GLASS SHATTERING)
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You got your cell phone?
Call 911.
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WOMAN: Oh, my God,
that new building!
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FIREMAN: Fire started
near the elevator,
spread down the hall.
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Place went up
like a Roman candle.
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Miss Crispy Crunch,
we found in one of
the back bedrooms.
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Crispy Crunch?
You think that's funny?
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Excuse me, Mr. Sensitive.
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Male or female?
Female.
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Any idea
what was she doing
in the building?
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That's not
my area of expertise.
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Thought is,
she probably got trapped
back there somehow.
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Well, what about
the windows?
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Burglar bars,
no safety release.
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Isn't that illegal?
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Yeah, so is arson.
We'll write the
contractor a citation.
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Yeah, but since
the building was still
under construction?
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Slap on the wrist.
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Well, it's good
it didn't spread to
any other buildings.
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My guys got here quick.
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Are you sure it's arson?
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Are you sure she's dead?
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Okay, thanks.
We'll be in touch.
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Hey!
The accelerant,
what'd they use?
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My nose tells me
good old-fashioned
regular unleaded.
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Why spring for premium
when regular'll do?
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Point of origin was
the ground floor hallway.
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We found beads of an
orange plastic material.
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What do you
make of them?
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Probably the container
that held the accelerant.
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ED: Any significance
to where it started?
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Well, whoever set it
wasn't an expert.
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Simple splash down,
but the spot was
chosen carefully.
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ED: What do you mean,
"chosen"?
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It's center of the building,
setting the fire there
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is the best way to contain it,
prevent collateral damage.
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Plus, it creates the
fastest route of escape,
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easiest access
for firefighters.
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Thoughtful arsonist.
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Still, not exactly
covering your tracks.
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Well, he certainly wasn't
trying to make it look
like an accident.
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I'm thinking more like
maximum damage in
a minimum amount of time.
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Why did you say "he"?
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Statistically, arson is
predominantly a crime
committed by men.
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But in this case,
I had another clue.
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BRISCOE: What was that?
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The female body they found?
She was naked.
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Naked? What
are we talking about?
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Twenty-five to 30-year-old
female, Caucasian.
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Rape-arson?
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M.E.'s preliminary
lists cause of death
as smoke inhalation.
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She was alive.
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Yeah, but Forensics
says her earrings
were across the room.
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ED: With whatever was left
of her clothes.
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So, what,
Jane Doe breaks into
a half-finished apartment,
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takes off her earrings,
folds her clothes,
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alone?
That's a little odd.
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Any indication
of violence?
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The body was
too badly burned.
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Missing Persons
still working on an ID.
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So if it wasn't rape-arson,
it's murder-arson.
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Unless the fire bug
didn't know she was there.
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Then it's just more
than he bargained for.
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A list of people
who had access to
the site after hours.
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Any on-site guards?
Not until midnight.
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What about cameras?
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Hadn't been activated yet.
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We're waiting for
the tenants to move in.
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Come on, Lennie,
a tape of people
coming and going.
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You know that would've
been too easy.
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I guess I'm getting
lazy in my old age.
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So, when were the tenants
scheduled to arrive?
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Not for
a couple of months.
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They still had
some punch list items
that needed attending to.
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ED: Like the burglar alarm?
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That was already installed.
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Well, who on this list
might've known the code?
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Last but not least, right?
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I mean, you figure
something like this happens,
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you're gonna question
the master electrician
sooner or later.
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So you did
all the wiring?
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The way I hear it,
wiring has nothing to do
with this fire.
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BRISCOE: Oh, is that
what you heard?
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What I hear is that somebody
was playing with matches
without any clothes on.
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Any news about
who she might have
been playing with?
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No.
ED: So, how'd she get in?
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I mean,
the burglar alarms were
installed properly, right?
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I tested 'em myself.
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When?
A week,
week and a half ago.
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ED: So what happened?
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Obviously, somebody
turned 'em off.
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Yeah, that's exactly
what we were thinking.
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Question is, "Who?"
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Yeah, you could see
how your name might
come to mind.
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You guys think I'd set
a fire using gasoline?
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There's a lot of ways
something like this
can be done.
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So, you put
some thought into this.
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Let's just say somebody
setting a fire on that job,
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it wasn't a big surprise.
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BRISCOE: What does that mean?
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Landlord lightning,
that's why God invented
insurance companies.
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It strikes somewhere
every five minutes.
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First time
the paychecks were late,
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we made book on
when it would hit.
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How many other developers
build affordable housing
for working people?
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I don't know, how many?
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One bedroom,
Pullman kitchen,
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2,200 a month.
You call that affordable?
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KELLNER: In this city.
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It's a mugging
with a cappuccino.
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Well, maybe in Nyack
or wherever,
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but on the Upper West Side,
2,200's a pretty good deal.
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And I got bills to pay.
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Which, apparently,
you don't always pay.
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Look, are you accusing me
of something, Detective?
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Because if you are,
I will phone my attorney...
Easy.
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Just trying to get
the lay of the land.
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Last month,
we had a cash crunch.
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It was a temporary situation.
Doesn't make me an arsonist.
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Every time
I think of that girl...
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Look, I build, I don't burn.
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Especially not after
what I went through getting
approval for that place.
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What was the problem?
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Neighborhood didn't
like me building over
a community garden.
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Yeah, I read about that.
Giuliani sold off
city-owned lots.
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Yeah, that property paid
no real estate taxes at all,
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but you know New Yorkers.
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Against it,
no matter what it is.
On principle.
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That's why you included
the low-income housing,
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to get past the
community board?
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It helped.
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Couldn't have helped
your profit margin much.
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Look, in the first place,
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I burn this building down,
the approval process only gets
more brutal the next time.
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BRISCOE: And
in the second place?
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My insurance policy sucked.
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The builder came up short
a couple of times,
couldn't make the payroll.
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According to a broker,
he's been trying to flip
the property, unsuccessfully.
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Neighborhood activists
gave him a hard time.
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Yeah, they wanted to
raise carrots. He wanted
to raise money.
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So, you think
the long fuse reaches
back to his office?
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The guy was just trying
to make ends meet,
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but the insurance money
wasn't there.
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And everyone who had access
to the site after hours?
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Has an alibi.
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Well, the arson report says
the service entrance and
back entrance of the site
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were locked and
the alarms were set.
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Yeah, no sign of B and E
through any of the windows
or from the roof.
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So whoever
set the torch...
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Probably snuck in
during the day,
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hid out in the basement
until closing time,
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lit up the joint,
and then made it out
through the lobby doors.
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Or beat the system.
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Hey, Missing Persons.
Female Caucasian.
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Right age, right height.
Parents are from out of town,
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they reported
their daughter missing
a few days ago.
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We're gonna have to do
dental records or DNA
for a positive ID.
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Well, make sure
you've got that before
you talk to them.
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The last thing I want is
to tell the wrong people
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their daughter
burned to death in a fire.
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But she lived here alone?
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No one else on the lease.
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She have a boyfriend?
I wouldn't know.
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It's not a doorman building.
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(ANSWERING MACHINE BEEPS)
Hi. It's Mom.
It's about 7:00.
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Dad and I will be up
till 10:00 or so. Love you.
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Breakfast dishes
in the sink.
Oh, that's her.
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Hey, Ed, remember those
earrings they found?
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(ANSWERING MACHINE BEEPS)
Melanie. It's Mom.
Are you there?
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I'm home.
Call us whenever.
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Bed's made.
No sign of struggle.
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(ANSWERING MACHINE BEEPS)
Melanie, please, call me
as soon as you get this.
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I tried you at the school,
but none of the other
teachers had seen you.
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Dad and I are
very worried, honey.
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It wasn't like Melanie
to just not show up.
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She's a really
dedicated teacher.
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How long
have you known her?
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About two years.
Our classrooms are
next to each other.
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Is there any place
she might go?
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Somebody she might be
staying with?
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You mean, is she
with someone?
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I don't think so.
Not seriously.
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What about casually?
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Melanie's not like that.
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There was this one guy
she had crush on.
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He used to come by
sometimes after work.
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I don't think
she really wanted to
advertise it, though.
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BRISCOE: Why's that?
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He's a student's father.
A boy in the fifth grade,
I think.
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You know his name?
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His first name's Eric.
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I met him once.
You could probably get
the last name in the office.
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How often did this Eric
come around?
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Every couple of weeks,
I guess.
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BRISCOE: When's the
last time you saw him?
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Actually, the day
she disappeared.
About 5:00.
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Thank you.
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Careful. That's
a hand-inked reproduction.
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First issue.
I got it off eBay.
How it all started.
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How what all started?
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X-Men. Hmm,
you never read these.
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Afraid I'm gonna have to
sell this to put my kid
through college one day.
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Uh, can we get back to
talking about Melanie Fried,
Mr. Shollar?
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Uh, yeah, sure.
BRISCOE: So, you did know her?
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Yeah. Just to say hi.
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My kid goes to PS260,
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so I'd see her at drop-off
sometimes, you know.
Stuff like that.
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What about after school?
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After school?
Yeah.
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You know,
say around 5:00.
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I don't know.
I'm usually working
around 5:00.
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Can I get either of you
some coffee? Tea, maybe?
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No, thanks, we're fine.
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Uh, Mr. Shollar,
what kind of work do you do?
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I do construction.
Dry walling, plastering.
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You ever do any work
for Kellner Construction?
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Eric just finished
a job for Kellner
not two weeks ago.
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Is that right?
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Yeah.
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You didn't happen to
work on the building that
burned down, did you?
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MRS. SHOLLAR: As a matter
of fact, he did.
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Is that what
this is all about?
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Mr. Shollar,
maybe it'd be better if
we talked to you downtown.
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You know, we can show
you some pictures,
maybe jog your memory.
237
00:10:13,510 --> 00:10:14,710
Yeah, maybe that
would be better.
238
00:10:14,780 --> 00:10:16,650
Jog his memory
about who?
239
00:10:16,980 --> 00:10:19,860
A woman died in the fire.
We're just trying
to get an ID.
240
00:10:19,910 --> 00:10:21,360
ERIC: Yeah, I'm just
gonna take a look.
241
00:10:21,550 --> 00:10:22,960
Probably never even
seen her before.
242
00:10:23,020 --> 00:10:25,400
ED: We'll have him back home
in a couple of hours.
243
00:10:25,450 --> 00:10:27,090
Keep him
as long as you like.
244
00:10:33,460 --> 00:10:37,200
One of the teachers
in Melanie's school
saw you pick her up that day.
245
00:10:37,270 --> 00:10:40,110
And Kellner confirmed
that they gave you
a key to the place.
246
00:10:40,170 --> 00:10:42,670
A key you never
returned, Eric.
247
00:10:42,740 --> 00:10:44,910
You sure you didn't
take her to the site
that night, Eric,
248
00:10:44,970 --> 00:10:46,320
maybe show her
some of your handiwork?
249
00:10:46,370 --> 00:10:48,220
How good you are
with spackle?
250
00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,260
Come on, man.
We got a witness who saw
251
00:10:50,310 --> 00:10:53,550
somebody fitting
your description
running from the building.
252
00:10:55,180 --> 00:10:58,430
Her parents need to know
if it's their daughter
for sure.
253
00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:00,370
Look, I don't want to
screw up my marriage.
254
00:11:00,420 --> 00:11:01,730
If my wife
finds out that I...
255
00:11:01,790 --> 00:11:04,700
What?
That you slept with her,
or that you killed her?
256
00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:05,900
All I did
was take her there.
257
00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:07,440
ED: And what happened?
258
00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,700
We would flirt
at the school.
259
00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,350
I'd see her in
the morning sometimes
when I dropped my kid off.
260
00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:14,780
BRISCOE: And
what about that day?
261
00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:16,680
I saw her that morning.
262
00:11:16,970 --> 00:11:19,580
She mentioned before
how she was thinking about
getting a bigger place.
263
00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,990
I told her about the place
I'm working at and offered
to show her around.
264
00:11:23,910 --> 00:11:26,620
Anyway, we're alone,
one thing leads to the next,
265
00:11:26,680 --> 00:11:27,960
and pretty soon
I got her clothes off.
266
00:11:28,020 --> 00:11:29,790
Wait. What part of
the building was this?
267
00:11:29,850 --> 00:11:31,630
Uh, one of the apartments.
268
00:11:31,890 --> 00:11:33,990
They had just
put the carpet down.
269
00:11:34,060 --> 00:11:36,560
Anyway, that's when I realized
I didn't have any condoms,
270
00:11:36,620 --> 00:11:38,400
so I ran to the store
to get some.
271
00:11:38,790 --> 00:11:40,860
Safe sex,
very responsible.
272
00:11:40,930 --> 00:11:43,640
Look, I wasn't gone
10 minutes. I come back,
the building's on fire.
273
00:11:43,700 --> 00:11:45,040
So you ran away?
274
00:11:45,100 --> 00:11:47,550
I couldn't get back in.
The fire was in the hallway.
275
00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:48,840
I tried to call 911.
276
00:11:48,900 --> 00:11:50,970
What do you mean,
you tried to call 911?
277
00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:52,640
At the pay phone
on the corner.
278
00:11:53,110 --> 00:11:55,320
There was a girl on the phone.
She said she already called.
279
00:11:55,380 --> 00:11:57,120
What did this girl
look like?
280
00:11:58,010 --> 00:12:01,430
Uh, blonde, ponytail,
blue ski hat, jeans.
281
00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:03,760
Anything else?
282
00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,090
Height, weight, age?
283
00:12:06,150 --> 00:12:07,530
Would you recognize her
if you saw her again?
284
00:12:07,590 --> 00:12:08,730
I might. I don't know.
285
00:12:08,790 --> 00:12:11,430
But you didn't stick around
to see how Melanie was.
286
00:12:13,660 --> 00:12:15,770
I got nervous
when I heard the sirens.
287
00:12:16,430 --> 00:12:17,500
I figured she'd be okay.
288
00:12:17,570 --> 00:12:19,070
You figured wrong.
289
00:12:21,940 --> 00:12:23,040
You gonna tell my wife?
290
00:12:23,100 --> 00:12:25,810
Oh, trust me, pal.
She already knows.
291
00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,850
The drugstore manager
ID'd Shollar.
292
00:12:30,910 --> 00:12:32,980
Said he ran in and
bought a pack of condoms.
293
00:12:33,050 --> 00:12:35,050
Like he had a hot date.
His words.
294
00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:36,790
They see anyone
at the pay phone?
295
00:12:36,850 --> 00:12:39,560
Not a soul.
No Shollar,
no ponytail.
296
00:12:39,620 --> 00:12:41,620
So, we can't confirm
Shollar's story.
297
00:12:41,690 --> 00:12:44,830
That he wanted to call 911?
Maybe he wanted to.
298
00:12:44,890 --> 00:12:46,670
But according to the IUDs,
nobody did.
299
00:12:46,730 --> 00:12:48,040
But at about the same time,
300
00:12:48,100 --> 00:12:51,130
there was a three-minute call
from that phone to
a number in Inwood.
301
00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,110
Yeah,
a Mr. Kent Quigley.
302
00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,510
All right.
You know the drill.
Talk to this Quigley
303
00:12:55,570 --> 00:12:57,410
see if we can't
find the girl.
304
00:12:57,470 --> 00:13:00,940
Maybe Shollar'll get lucky
and get a little backup
for his story,
305
00:13:01,010 --> 00:13:03,990
or maybe we'll get
a little lucky and come up
with a material witness
306
00:13:04,050 --> 00:13:06,490
to testify against
this son of a bitch.
307
00:13:11,090 --> 00:13:13,030
Last Monday?
A phone call?
308
00:13:13,090 --> 00:13:14,730
Yeah, around 8:00 p.m.
309
00:13:15,020 --> 00:13:17,530
I don't really remember.
I get a lot of phone calls.
310
00:13:17,590 --> 00:13:18,940
Do you remember all
the phone calls you get?
311
00:13:18,990 --> 00:13:20,370
ED: It was from a pay phone.
312
00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,970
How would I know that?
You got caller ID.
313
00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,300
Monday night,
I'm not even sure I was
home from work by then.
314
00:13:26,370 --> 00:13:28,010
Look, you're a little slow
on the pick-up, man.
315
00:13:28,070 --> 00:13:29,640
Somebody answered
the phone.
316
00:13:30,070 --> 00:13:31,380
Maybe it was
a wrong number.
317
00:13:31,770 --> 00:13:33,840
Do you remember
getting a wrong number?
318
00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,610
Yeah. I think I do.
319
00:13:36,850 --> 00:13:41,160
Who was it from?
Man, woman, young, old?
320
00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,960
A man. Old. Older.
321
00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:47,660
What'd you talk about?
322
00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:48,930
Nothing, you know.
323
00:13:48,990 --> 00:13:51,270
Nobody here by that name.
He misdialed.
324
00:13:51,330 --> 00:13:54,210
Phone records
indicate the call lasted
almost three minutes.
325
00:13:54,260 --> 00:13:55,740
Maybe I didn't hang it up
right or something.
326
00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,370
ED: You live alone?
Yes.
327
00:13:58,030 --> 00:13:59,740
You having your period,
Mr. Quigley?
328
00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,640
I told you all I know.
329
00:14:02,270 --> 00:14:04,410
I think you guys
should just leave.
330
00:14:04,610 --> 00:14:07,590
Well, thanks, Mr. Quigley,
you've really been
a tremendous help.
331
00:14:09,340 --> 00:14:12,290
How many blonde ponytails
call this guy, you think?
332
00:14:12,350 --> 00:14:14,050
Not so often
you wouldn't remember.
333
00:14:14,680 --> 00:14:16,490
Didn't hang up
right, my ass.
334
00:14:18,020 --> 00:14:19,360
Excuse me.
335
00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:20,930
Hey, how
you doing, man?
336
00:14:20,990 --> 00:14:22,490
Do you know
the tenant in 3B?
337
00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:26,330
Quigley? Yeah, sure.
Real quiet guy.
Why, what'd he do?
338
00:14:26,460 --> 00:14:28,810
Well, actually,
we're trying to locate
a young lady.
339
00:14:28,860 --> 00:14:30,670
Uh, blonde, ponytail...
340
00:14:30,730 --> 00:14:32,040
She might've had on
a ski cap.
341
00:14:32,100 --> 00:14:35,810
Recently, right?
I thought she might be
family or something.
342
00:14:36,340 --> 00:14:37,820
ED: Why do you say that?
She had a key.
343
00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,420
Came and went.
Only here a few days through.
344
00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,960
Her and two other guys.
Visiting, it seemed to me.
345
00:14:43,210 --> 00:14:44,920
What'd these two
other guys look like?
346
00:14:44,980 --> 00:14:46,890
SUPER: You know, kids.
Nothing special.
347
00:14:46,950 --> 00:14:48,480
When was the last time
you saw 'em?
348
00:14:48,550 --> 00:14:50,360
Maybe a day or so ago.
349
00:14:50,420 --> 00:14:52,360
They, uh, left real early
in the morning.
350
00:14:52,420 --> 00:14:54,090
They had backpacks
and such.
351
00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:55,960
Hey, do you know
where Quigley works?
352
00:14:56,020 --> 00:14:58,200
Food co-op on 116th Street.
353
00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:00,560
It's always
the quiet guys, huh?
354
00:15:01,930 --> 00:15:04,140
Monday?
Kent was here all day.
355
00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:05,370
What time did he leave?
356
00:15:05,430 --> 00:15:07,670
Around 6:30.
We walked out together.
357
00:15:07,740 --> 00:15:09,150
That leaves enough time.
358
00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:10,510
Enough time for what?
359
00:15:10,910 --> 00:15:14,480
Did you ever see him
with a blonde, ponytail,
in her 20s?
360
00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,180
Kent?
361
00:15:16,310 --> 00:15:17,980
Why, Quigley doesn't
date women?
362
00:15:18,050 --> 00:15:19,790
Kent doesn't date, period.
363
00:15:19,850 --> 00:15:21,520
Hey, you ever see Kent
with a date?
364
00:15:22,020 --> 00:15:23,220
There's a concept.
365
00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:24,890
Kent's too wrapped up
in his work.
366
00:15:25,220 --> 00:15:26,990
What? Here?
Bagging barley?
367
00:15:27,060 --> 00:15:28,160
His causes.
368
00:15:28,220 --> 00:15:30,100
What causes
would these be?
369
00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,760
Environment.
Kent's pretty intense.
370
00:15:32,830 --> 00:15:35,000
Wait. What about
that woman last week?
371
00:15:35,060 --> 00:15:37,840
They said a date.
She came here
with two other guys.
372
00:15:37,900 --> 00:15:39,040
What woman is this?
373
00:15:39,100 --> 00:15:41,600
Oh, they stopped by,
I don't know, around
3:00, 4:00 in the afternoon,
374
00:15:41,670 --> 00:15:44,050
looking for Kent.
But that was Thursday.
375
00:15:44,170 --> 00:15:45,710
BRISCOE: Friends of his?
376
00:15:45,810 --> 00:15:47,450
Actually, now that
you mention it,
377
00:15:47,510 --> 00:15:49,390
it didn't seem like
they even really
knew each other.
378
00:15:49,510 --> 00:15:50,850
That's why I didn't
think of it right off.
379
00:15:52,180 --> 00:15:55,860
Quigley, Kent.
Date of birth 3-21-76.
380
00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,090
Cohoes, New York.
It's up near Albany.
381
00:15:58,150 --> 00:16:00,220
Let me guess.
Some penny-ante priors.
382
00:16:00,290 --> 00:16:02,770
Two speeding tickets,
jaywalking,
383
00:16:02,820 --> 00:16:05,900
and throwing paint
on some rich lady's fur
in Chappaqua.
384
00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,700
Close. One speeding ticket,
Columbia county.
385
00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,180
Columbia county,
everybody gets
speeding tickets.
386
00:16:11,300 --> 00:16:13,540
How else do they pay
for the roads to get
plowed in the winter?
387
00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,020
And a disorderly beef
a year ago at, uh,
388
00:16:17,070 --> 00:16:20,210
you're so good at guessing,
Dionne Warwick,
you tell me where.
389
00:16:20,270 --> 00:16:23,650
Community gardens protest
against Kellner Real Estate.
390
00:16:23,710 --> 00:16:25,250
Credit cards
off the subpoena,
391
00:16:25,310 --> 00:16:27,020
10 bucks
at a convenience store,
392
00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,460
20 bucks for Chinese takeout,
and ready for this?
393
00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:34,730
Day of the fire,
1:55 p.m., 12 bucks from
a gas station in the Bronx.
394
00:16:34,890 --> 00:16:36,700
A, I thought he was
at work all day,
395
00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:41,100
and B, I'll give you odds
our Mr. Greenjeans
doesn't even own a car.
396
00:16:44,870 --> 00:16:46,310
MANAGER: You said
Monday afternoon?
397
00:16:46,370 --> 00:16:49,280
Yeah. Around 2:00.
How often do you
tape over these things?
398
00:16:49,340 --> 00:16:50,440
Every two weeks.
399
00:16:50,510 --> 00:16:51,580
We're supposed to
hold them for a month,
400
00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,050
but I got better things
to spend money on.
401
00:16:53,210 --> 00:16:56,980
Hey, credit authorization
was for 1:55 p.m.,
so this should be it.
402
00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,160
Here's a guy that knows
what he's looking for.
403
00:17:07,790 --> 00:17:09,130
You remember
anything they said?
404
00:17:09,190 --> 00:17:10,400
Sorry.
405
00:17:10,460 --> 00:17:12,370
How about if they had
a girl with them?
406
00:17:12,430 --> 00:17:15,030
Five days ago?
Couldn't tell you who
was here five minutes ago.
407
00:17:15,330 --> 00:17:17,780
Lennie, you remember
those orange plastic beads?
408
00:17:17,830 --> 00:17:19,470
Melt this down,
I bet you get a match.
409
00:17:19,970 --> 00:17:22,310
Wait, there she is
By the door.
410
00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,810
ED: Ski cap, ponytail.
411
00:17:25,940 --> 00:17:27,750
We get somebody
at the food co-op
to ID these jokers,
412
00:17:27,810 --> 00:17:29,080
we got enough
for a warrant.
413
00:17:29,140 --> 00:17:30,650
We're gonna
need this tape.
414
00:17:31,180 --> 00:17:33,220
I lost my credit card.
Did you report it?
415
00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:34,560
I figured
it would turn up.
416
00:17:34,620 --> 00:17:36,960
Why would I be buying gas?
I don't even own a car.
417
00:17:37,020 --> 00:17:38,690
You know, that's
exactly what we said.
418
00:17:38,750 --> 00:17:41,630
The gas station
security camera taped
two kids using your card.
419
00:17:41,690 --> 00:17:44,430
Then I suppose
I'm not responsible
for the charges, am I?
420
00:17:44,660 --> 00:17:49,070
Well, look at this.
Hey, Lennie.
Lost in plain sight.
421
00:17:49,700 --> 00:17:51,730
BRISCOE: "Greens builders
square off.
422
00:17:52,470 --> 00:17:54,640
"West Side Garden no Eden.
423
00:17:55,700 --> 00:17:58,150
"Five arrested
in garden protest."
424
00:17:58,670 --> 00:18:00,650
Now, this garden
wouldn't happen
to be the lot
425
00:18:00,710 --> 00:18:02,590
where they put up
that building that was
torched, would it?
426
00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:03,820
I wouldn't know
anything about that.
427
00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,190
Do you always keep
clippings of things you
don't know anything about?
428
00:18:06,250 --> 00:18:07,320
And that lot wasn't empty.
429
00:18:07,380 --> 00:18:09,450
It was a community garden
that had been
lovingly maintained
430
00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,760
by the people
of that neighborhood
for over 20 years!
431
00:18:11,820 --> 00:18:13,030
ED: It was bought
by Kellner Real Estate.
432
00:18:13,090 --> 00:18:15,530
It was public land,
the city had
no right to sell it.
433
00:18:16,020 --> 00:18:19,330
ED: Now, what would
you be doing with
a disassembled alarm system?
434
00:18:19,830 --> 00:18:21,770
You want to
give me odds that
it matches the system
435
00:18:21,830 --> 00:18:23,810
in that building
you don't know
anything about?
436
00:18:24,100 --> 00:18:26,370
You been doing
a little homework on
how to bypass alarms?
437
00:18:26,430 --> 00:18:27,570
You're under arrest,
438
00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,240
but I guess
you wouldn't know
anything about that either.
439
00:18:29,300 --> 00:18:30,980
We are losing
our wetlands,
our wilderness.
440
00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,540
Every day,
we are paving
over nature.
441
00:18:32,610 --> 00:18:33,920
Oh, you think
Manhattan's a wasteland?
442
00:18:33,980 --> 00:18:35,610
Wait until you see
Rikers Island.
443
00:18:38,950 --> 00:18:40,220
Three people,
two male, one female,
444
00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,690
used Quigley's credit card
at the gas station.
445
00:18:42,820 --> 00:18:44,990
We're sure it's the same girl
from the pay phone?
446
00:18:45,090 --> 00:18:48,030
The victim's boyfriend
positively ID'd her
from the gas station video.
447
00:18:48,860 --> 00:18:50,130
What's their connection
to Quigley?
448
00:18:50,190 --> 00:18:51,300
We don't know that yet.
449
00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:53,900
But a co-worker says
that the three stopped by
the food co-op last week,
450
00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,910
and the super confirms
that they were
staying with him.
451
00:18:56,030 --> 00:18:57,980
Which probably means
they're from out of town.
452
00:18:58,030 --> 00:19:00,070
How close are we
to identifying them?
453
00:19:00,130 --> 00:19:01,700
Quigley hasn't
given up any names.
454
00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,270
He's prepared to take
the fall for this alone?
455
00:19:04,340 --> 00:19:06,280
Well, the guy sees himself
as some kind of martyr.
456
00:19:07,580 --> 00:19:10,220
Easy to do when
you're not looking through
the eyes of your victim.
457
00:19:11,150 --> 00:19:12,590
Are we checking
the connection between
458
00:19:12,650 --> 00:19:15,060
the fire and
the original protest
at the building site?
459
00:19:15,250 --> 00:19:17,060
I'm going down
to the community board today.
460
00:19:17,420 --> 00:19:20,160
When we do find them,
arson, murder two.
461
00:19:24,030 --> 00:19:27,340
I'm not saying the mayor
shouldn't have unloaded
the community garden.
462
00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,140
The city sold 30,
maybe 40 empty lots
463
00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:31,730
over a four-year period.
464
00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,300
Most of them
abandoned.
465
00:19:33,730 --> 00:19:35,270
People objected, though.
466
00:19:35,340 --> 00:19:37,580
Tough call.
A community garden,
467
00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,590
or another
apartment building?
Which would you rather have?
468
00:19:41,110 --> 00:19:43,520
Ah, God knows,
the city can
use the revenue.
469
00:19:43,780 --> 00:19:46,780
And no one's objecting
to more rental units.
470
00:19:46,850 --> 00:19:49,260
Especially since
the developer negotiated
471
00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,230
a set-aside for
low-income families.
472
00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,270
Were there any hearings,
any kind of forum?
473
00:19:53,550 --> 00:19:55,330
Where you can get
a transcript?
474
00:19:55,390 --> 00:19:57,870
Find out who objected
to the development?
475
00:19:58,260 --> 00:20:00,640
This isn't a First Amendment
issue, it's a murder case.
476
00:20:03,060 --> 00:20:05,370
No. There was
nothing official.
477
00:20:05,500 --> 00:20:07,500
Newspapers...
I've gone through
the press coverage.
478
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,010
If I have to come back
with a subpoena, I will,
Ms. Malone.
479
00:20:13,980 --> 00:20:15,720
There was no transcript.
480
00:20:15,780 --> 00:20:17,760
But I saved the flyers.
481
00:20:18,950 --> 00:20:22,690
Just in case we ever
have to reach out to
some of the protest groups.
482
00:20:22,750 --> 00:20:25,130
Which we do,
on a regular basis.
483
00:20:25,190 --> 00:20:27,790
Always something
to get up in arms about, huh?
484
00:20:31,390 --> 00:20:33,800
Two dozen different flyers.
Three dozen different groups.
485
00:20:34,130 --> 00:20:36,610
Ah, the Left.
Two people,
three opinions.
486
00:20:36,700 --> 00:20:38,940
(CHUCKLES)
Most of the groups
were pretty ad-hoc.
487
00:20:39,070 --> 00:20:40,640
Phones have been
disconnected.
488
00:20:40,700 --> 00:20:41,770
What about the websites?
489
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,940
Two are still online,
one's a local democratic club.
490
00:20:44,210 --> 00:20:46,380
Well, I've been burned
by them, but arsonists?
491
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,910
The other group
calls itself "Coyote."
492
00:20:48,980 --> 00:20:51,150
Usual villains, NAFTA,
the World Bank.
493
00:20:51,210 --> 00:20:52,990
NAFTA? How do you
get from that
494
00:20:53,050 --> 00:20:54,790
to burning down
a building in Manhattan?
495
00:20:54,850 --> 00:20:56,230
"Save the community gardens.
496
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,490
"Stop the rape
of our environment."
497
00:20:58,550 --> 00:21:01,930
Well, I guess a garden
is as close as we come
to nature around here, huh?
498
00:21:02,060 --> 00:21:03,590
"Come up with your own plan."
499
00:21:04,190 --> 00:21:06,800
You know, I have a friend
on a special task force
at the Bureau,
500
00:21:06,860 --> 00:21:08,240
see what he can
tell you about them.
501
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:15,110
Coyote first
surfaced in Seattle
at these WTO protests.
502
00:21:15,170 --> 00:21:18,380
Until recently, they were
pretty much a Pacific
Northwest operation.
503
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:20,980
Most of them
look like kids.
504
00:21:21,110 --> 00:21:23,150
Yeah. We're not talking
FBI's most wanted.
505
00:21:23,210 --> 00:21:26,780
Still, they have done
a substantial amount
of property damage.
506
00:21:27,350 --> 00:21:30,330
$14 million arson
at a Utah ski resort.
507
00:21:30,850 --> 00:21:33,420
Two million dollars' worth
at an Idaho lumber mill.
508
00:21:33,490 --> 00:21:37,530
So far, we've attributed
over $50 million damage
to them nationally.
509
00:21:37,590 --> 00:21:39,130
What's their record
on violence?
510
00:21:39,530 --> 00:21:41,470
They've been
very careful about that.
511
00:21:42,360 --> 00:21:45,500
You set fires,
there's gonna be
a fatality sooner or later.
512
00:21:46,430 --> 00:21:49,440
I'm surprised the FBI
hasn't done more
to prosecute them.
513
00:21:49,500 --> 00:21:50,880
You understand
the people I work for,
514
00:21:50,940 --> 00:21:53,420
they're used to a certain
leadership structure.
515
00:21:53,470 --> 00:21:55,010
FBI likes to see
a group like this
516
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:56,560
on a nice, little flow chart.
517
00:21:56,710 --> 00:21:58,190
That way,
we line our ducks up.
518
00:21:58,250 --> 00:22:00,230
Only these people
aren't organized that way.
519
00:22:00,380 --> 00:22:02,330
TROST: These people are
not organized at all.
520
00:22:02,380 --> 00:22:06,020
Basically, these kids
jump in a car,
hop on a bus, a train,
521
00:22:06,090 --> 00:22:08,000
burn something down
and leave.
522
00:22:08,060 --> 00:22:10,470
Says here they've been quick
to claim responsibility.
523
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,170
A lack of any statement
would seem to be
at odds with their MO.
524
00:22:14,230 --> 00:22:16,870
Well, maybe the girl's
death explains why
they haven't taken credit.
525
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,080
Well, the profile's
young, affluent.
526
00:22:20,130 --> 00:22:21,880
Dead girl
could hurt recruitment.
527
00:22:22,370 --> 00:22:24,010
How do they claim credit?
528
00:22:24,070 --> 00:22:25,780
On a website.
Run by who?
529
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,580
An organic farmer
in upstate New York.
530
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:31,820
Paul Rochet.
531
00:22:32,950 --> 00:22:34,520
He's been
subpoenaed before.
532
00:22:34,580 --> 00:22:37,720
Oh, we've dragged
Mr. Rochet in front of
a dozen Grand Juries.
533
00:22:38,190 --> 00:22:40,290
Claims he doesn't know
anyone in the movement.
534
00:22:40,350 --> 00:22:42,660
Simply posts information
on a website.
535
00:22:42,790 --> 00:22:44,460
And lets the Internet
do the rest.
536
00:22:44,890 --> 00:22:46,530
TROST: Certainly
provides distance.
537
00:22:46,630 --> 00:22:48,900
What about the faces
from the gas station video?
538
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,810
The local database
came up empty.
539
00:22:50,870 --> 00:22:52,780
We're running them national
as we speak.
540
00:22:53,970 --> 00:22:58,280
TECH: The photo recognition
system's the same one used at
airports and on the Chunnel.
541
00:22:58,340 --> 00:22:59,480
You know, between
London and Paris.
542
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,240
And at the Superbowl.
I read about it in Newsweek.
543
00:23:02,310 --> 00:23:03,480
What's your database?
544
00:23:03,540 --> 00:23:06,150
Right now, it's mostly
criminal records and DMV.
545
00:23:06,210 --> 00:23:09,130
Eventually, we'll get
the ATM cameras,
department stores...
546
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,930
You know how many hotels
have surveillance?
How many malls?
547
00:23:12,250 --> 00:23:13,730
Makes me want
to wear a mask.
548
00:23:13,790 --> 00:23:14,790
Wouldn't do any good.
549
00:23:14,860 --> 00:23:17,860
Infrared, thermo...
Masks, clothes,
we see right through.
550
00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:20,900
You'd think more
people would object,
but nobody bats an eye.
551
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,000
Here we go. See?
She's in the databank.
552
00:23:25,870 --> 00:23:28,070
Just like the rest
of America pretty soon.
553
00:23:31,370 --> 00:23:33,780
Emily Hoyt, 18.
Pullman, Washington.
554
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,680
Freshman at
Washington State University.
555
00:23:35,780 --> 00:23:37,020
Not anymore.
She dropped out.
556
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,420
Arrested protesting
the WTO in Seattle.
557
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:40,550
Do we know
where she is?
558
00:23:40,610 --> 00:23:41,720
I spoke with her parents
in Washington.
559
00:23:41,780 --> 00:23:43,920
They say she was traveling
to New York with friends.
560
00:23:43,980 --> 00:23:45,290
Did she tell them with who?
561
00:23:45,350 --> 00:23:48,800
She didn't give any names
Just a number where
she could be reached.
562
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,490
I never heard of
any Emily Hoyt.
563
00:23:52,230 --> 00:23:55,610
She gave her parents
your phone number,
Mr. Quigley.
564
00:23:55,660 --> 00:23:57,070
Her father is very sick.
565
00:23:57,130 --> 00:23:59,040
She wanted to keep in touch.
They haven't heard from her.
566
00:23:59,170 --> 00:24:01,510
These are serious
charges.
567
00:24:01,570 --> 00:24:03,450
Arson,
second-degree murder.
568
00:24:03,500 --> 00:24:05,680
Fifteen years, minimum.
15 years?
569
00:24:06,310 --> 00:24:09,850
If you won't help us
find the people
who set this fire,
570
00:24:09,910 --> 00:24:11,860
I'll have no choice
but to hold you
responsible.
571
00:24:13,810 --> 00:24:15,020
What are we talking about?
572
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,660
If we make an arrest
pursuant to your client's
information,
573
00:24:18,750 --> 00:24:21,700
I'd be willing to reduce
the top charge from
murder two to man one.
574
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:22,760
He'd serve five years.
575
00:24:23,390 --> 00:24:24,530
Five years?
576
00:24:24,590 --> 00:24:27,510
You entered a conspiracy,
Mr. Quigley.
577
00:24:27,860 --> 00:24:30,570
A conspiracy that cost
a young woman's life.
578
00:24:30,830 --> 00:24:32,170
We were just trying
to make a statement.
579
00:24:34,300 --> 00:24:36,180
Nobody was
supposed to get hurt.
580
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,210
Yes or no, Mr. Geary?
581
00:24:54,590 --> 00:24:56,800
I met Emily online.
582
00:25:00,290 --> 00:25:06,110
We wrote back and forth
about a lot of things.
Mostly politics.
583
00:25:06,770 --> 00:25:08,640
Environmental justice,
things like that.
584
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,940
Did you ever mention
the community garden
protests?
585
00:25:11,170 --> 00:25:14,180
I grew vegetables
in that garden. I had
a real connection to it.
586
00:25:16,210 --> 00:25:19,210
I live in this city,
and I wanted her to know
how active I was.
587
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,560
That I wasn't, you know,
a dilettante.
588
00:25:21,620 --> 00:25:23,390
Who are the two people
who came with her?
589
00:25:23,450 --> 00:25:25,490
They only used first names,
590
00:25:25,690 --> 00:25:27,690
Clark and Noah.
591
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,160
They said it was better
if I didn't know
who they were.
592
00:25:31,230 --> 00:25:32,800
I agreed to give them
a place to stay.
593
00:25:32,860 --> 00:25:35,930
I lent them a credit card.
But that is all I did.
594
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,000
You lent them a credit card
to buy gasoline.
595
00:25:38,070 --> 00:25:39,870
I'd say you did plenty.
596
00:25:39,930 --> 00:25:41,740
Where are they,
Mr. Quigley?
597
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,150
I'm not sure.
I'm telling you all I know.
598
00:25:48,140 --> 00:25:50,210
They were gonna stay
somewhere else
once the fire was set.
599
00:25:52,050 --> 00:25:54,930
Stick around a couple of days
to put out some stuff
on Coyote's website.
600
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:56,480
How are they traveling?
601
00:25:58,120 --> 00:25:59,320
By bus.
602
00:25:59,750 --> 00:26:01,990
We downloaded e-mails
from Quigley's computer.
603
00:26:02,120 --> 00:26:03,900
Yeah, we were able
to locate a number of them
604
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,630
through a variety
of internet service providers.
605
00:26:05,690 --> 00:26:09,330
JACK: The e-mails were sent
from dial-up numbers
in Washington state.
606
00:26:10,130 --> 00:26:11,340
Emily Hoyt.
607
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,840
And a week before the fire,
there was another e-mail.
608
00:26:13,900 --> 00:26:16,310
This time from a motel
in Dayton, Ohio.
609
00:26:17,300 --> 00:26:19,940
We have the motel's records?
Yeah.
610
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,080
Three people.
Two men and a woman.
611
00:26:22,140 --> 00:26:24,420
They paid cash.
Registered under
assumed names.
612
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,480
One of them made
a collect call to Oregon.
613
00:26:26,550 --> 00:26:28,320
The Mohrs of Bend, Oregon.
614
00:26:28,380 --> 00:26:30,890
The Mohrs have
one son, Clark, 19.
Attends Washington State.
615
00:26:31,090 --> 00:26:32,090
JACK: Same as Hoyt.
616
00:26:32,290 --> 00:26:35,100
We have terrorists
who are phoning their
parents from the road?
617
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,230
Generation next.
618
00:26:37,630 --> 00:26:40,040
So, do we know where Hoyt
and Mohr are now?
619
00:26:40,130 --> 00:26:42,110
Well, Quigley doesn't think
they've left the city yet.
620
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:43,330
Thinks they're
traveling by bus.
621
00:26:44,170 --> 00:26:45,940
Airlines require
a photo ID.
622
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,280
I put the Port Authority
on full alert.
623
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,180
And there is sort of
a spokesman for them.
624
00:26:52,710 --> 00:26:53,710
LEWIN: Well, he's local.
625
00:26:53,770 --> 00:26:56,220
Mmm-hmm.
He runs a farm
in upstate New York.
626
00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:57,980
Can we connect him
to this fire?
627
00:26:58,050 --> 00:26:59,820
Not with anything that
would hold up in court.
628
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:01,880
Well, he sells
produce to Quigley's
food co-op.
629
00:27:01,950 --> 00:27:02,950
And when I called the Mohrs,
630
00:27:03,020 --> 00:27:04,160
they said their son
was coming east
631
00:27:04,220 --> 00:27:06,260
for a conference
on the environment.
632
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,160
The keynote speaker
was Rochet.
633
00:27:08,490 --> 00:27:09,760
And the topic?
634
00:27:09,820 --> 00:27:12,130
The destruction of
greenery in our cities.
635
00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:15,310
LEWIN: And where is
Mr. Rochet now?
636
00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:17,340
He comes to the city
every other Tuesday.
637
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:18,470
Well, the next time
he does,
638
00:27:18,530 --> 00:27:20,880
why don't we ask him over
for a conversation,
639
00:27:20,930 --> 00:27:22,850
and let's see
how he takes the heat.
640
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,180
I'm not under arrest?
641
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,240
JACK: What for?
Just checking.
642
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,990
Do you run a website
for a group known
as Coyote, Mr. Rochet?
643
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,750
To anticipate, yes,
I run the Coyote website.
644
00:27:33,810 --> 00:27:35,790
Yes, Coyote,
a very amorphous group
645
00:27:35,850 --> 00:27:38,160
has taken direct action to
defend the environment.
646
00:27:38,220 --> 00:27:40,100
Yes, I support
those actions.
647
00:27:40,150 --> 00:27:42,190
But, no,
I do not instigate them,
648
00:27:42,260 --> 00:27:45,140
I do not incite them,
I do not facilitate them
in any way.
649
00:27:45,190 --> 00:27:48,000
I merely disseminate
information and promote
the free exchange
650
00:27:48,060 --> 00:27:50,940
of ideas, neither
of which is illegal.
651
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,310
I did some checking,
Mr. Rochet.
652
00:27:53,370 --> 00:27:56,910
You post information
about oil drilling
in the Alaskan wilderness.
653
00:27:56,970 --> 00:27:59,650
Three weeks later,
the drilling company's
bulldozers
654
00:27:59,710 --> 00:28:01,050
are destroyed by vandals.
655
00:28:01,110 --> 00:28:03,110
The same thing with
the ski resort in Utah.
656
00:28:03,180 --> 00:28:05,490
I post the truth.
I fail to see
the harm in that.
657
00:28:05,550 --> 00:28:07,620
This last speech
you gave at a conference
in New Paltz,
658
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,390
you targeted
community gardens.
659
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:11,590
Targeted?
Uh-huh.
660
00:28:12,020 --> 00:28:16,630
You saying you don't intend
these kids to take their
lead from your information?
661
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,230
I'll comment on just about
anything but my intent.
662
00:28:19,290 --> 00:28:21,570
But I will say this,
fires have been set
663
00:28:21,630 --> 00:28:24,040
and fires will continue
to be set because
it is the right thing
664
00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:25,100
that they be set.
665
00:28:27,570 --> 00:28:29,810
Emily Hoyt, Clark Mohr.
666
00:28:30,770 --> 00:28:32,380
Do you know them, Mr. Rochet?
667
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,080
I make it a point not
to familiarize myself
with anyone.
668
00:28:35,340 --> 00:28:37,910
Well, you must have
at least read about the
woman killed in this fire.
669
00:28:38,350 --> 00:28:39,420
If you're asking
if I regret
670
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,480
the loss of a life, I do.
671
00:28:42,550 --> 00:28:44,760
Just as I regret
the loss of open space,
672
00:28:44,820 --> 00:28:46,730
and the degradation
of urban life
for the enrichment of
673
00:28:46,790 --> 00:28:48,660
the few at
the expense of many.
674
00:28:48,820 --> 00:28:51,030
That the best you can do,
Mr. Rochet? Rhetoric?
675
00:28:51,830 --> 00:28:55,240
Is that the best you can do,
Mr. McCoy? Sanctimony?
676
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,640
I'm free to go, right?
677
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,050
I don't regret anything
I've done, Mr. McCoy.
678
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,390
I hope you never
have cause to regret
anything you do.
679
00:29:15,750 --> 00:29:17,960
Letting that guy walk out
the door's a start.
680
00:29:18,050 --> 00:29:19,050
(PHONE RINGING)
681
00:29:20,790 --> 00:29:22,700
Yeah? When?
682
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:24,930
Thank you.
683
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,440
Emily Hoyt was just spotted
at the Port Authority
bus station.
684
00:29:28,660 --> 00:29:30,940
Clerk says
three individuals
matching our descriptions
685
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,600
just bought tickets
for a bus to Chicago.
686
00:29:32,670 --> 00:29:34,980
Where?
Platform 64.
They're holding the bus.
687
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,390
Hey, trail mix.
Keep your hands
where I can see 'em.
688
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,750
Up against the bus.
689
00:29:45,110 --> 00:29:47,320
Now that's disappointing.
Don't you know
smoking's bad for you?
690
00:29:47,380 --> 00:29:48,590
Come here.
691
00:29:52,490 --> 00:29:55,470
You know, other than
some protests,
disorderly conduct,
692
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,300
all political stuff,
they really don't
have records.
693
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,130
Which doesn't mean
they haven't set
other fires.
694
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,400
Say we prosecute
them for murder.
695
00:30:03,930 --> 00:30:06,500
You really think
some other kid's
gonna blow out his match
696
00:30:06,570 --> 00:30:08,100
because of what we did?
697
00:30:08,170 --> 00:30:11,010
Deterrence is one goal.
Punishment's another.
698
00:30:11,070 --> 00:30:15,710
So you'd draw no distinction
between arson for profit
and arson for an ideal?
699
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,420
I doubt Melanie Fried would,
and the law clearly doesn't.
700
00:30:20,050 --> 00:30:21,960
Have you talked
to any of them yet?
701
00:30:22,020 --> 00:30:23,690
They're being arraigned.
702
00:30:23,750 --> 00:30:26,960
Good. Maybe a night
at Rikers will
loosen their tongues.
703
00:30:27,020 --> 00:30:28,160
About Rochet?
704
00:30:28,220 --> 00:30:31,730
It's common sense.
I mean, someone put Quigley
in touch with those kids.
705
00:30:32,330 --> 00:30:34,600
If you're so hell bent
on handing out punishment,
706
00:30:34,660 --> 00:30:37,270
let's mete it out
to somebody old enough
to appreciate it.
707
00:30:37,330 --> 00:30:39,610
If Rochet was involved,
it was in cyberspace.
708
00:30:39,670 --> 00:30:41,150
Common sense
doesn't apply there.
709
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,410
The fire was started
in his neighborhood,
710
00:30:43,470 --> 00:30:45,280
not clear
across the country.
711
00:30:45,340 --> 00:30:47,380
Maybe he wanted to
do something more
than type this time.
712
00:30:50,210 --> 00:30:54,180
I always tell my clients,
"Beware D.A.'s
bearing gifts.
713
00:30:54,250 --> 00:30:56,790
"They generally demand
more than they offer."
714
00:30:56,850 --> 00:30:59,090
What I'm offering is
a decade of their lives.
715
00:30:59,590 --> 00:31:01,460
Out of the goodness
of your heart.
716
00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:04,390
My boss has no interest
in punishing your clients
717
00:31:04,460 --> 00:31:06,960
and letting others
responsible for
this fire go free.
718
00:31:07,030 --> 00:31:11,640
I suspect your primary
interest is winning
a high-profile media case.
719
00:31:11,700 --> 00:31:14,110
We're not the ones
who've spent
the last 30 years
720
00:31:14,170 --> 00:31:16,580
using radical causes
to grandstand
with the press.
721
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,140
Well, my record
speaks for itself.
722
00:31:19,370 --> 00:31:21,940
A record which includes
defending cop killers.
723
00:31:22,010 --> 00:31:25,290
I love it when young D.A.'s
claim the system's rigged.
724
00:31:25,350 --> 00:31:27,620
This isn't about
ideology, counselor.
725
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,960
This is about
three young lives
and what we, in this room,
726
00:31:30,020 --> 00:31:32,660
are going to do
to see that
they aren't wasted.
727
00:31:33,050 --> 00:31:34,730
What is it you want?
728
00:31:34,790 --> 00:31:37,530
Your clients attended
a conference in New Paltz
729
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,600
a couple of weeks
before the fire was set.
730
00:31:40,660 --> 00:31:42,870
One of the speakers
there was Paul Rochet.
731
00:31:43,630 --> 00:31:46,540
Rochet? Uh, what does
he have to do with this?
732
00:31:46,970 --> 00:31:49,140
We know
about the website,
Mr. Stadler.
733
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,380
And the speech.
734
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,250
How he encouraged you
to burn down that building.
735
00:31:52,310 --> 00:31:53,510
That's not what he said.
736
00:31:53,970 --> 00:31:56,150
I assume
we're off the record?
737
00:31:59,050 --> 00:32:00,990
You think Rochet
tells us what to do?
738
00:32:02,380 --> 00:32:04,230
"Come up with your own plan."
739
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,330
I think Rochet
identifies targets
740
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,560
and avoids criminal liability
by hiding behind this website.
741
00:32:12,630 --> 00:32:14,700
Dude, you are so
far out of touch.
742
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:20,580
The last six areas
mentioned on Rochet's website
fell victim to arson.
743
00:32:22,270 --> 00:32:24,150
Do you expect me to believe
that's a coincidence?
744
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,620
They're poisoning
our water, our food.
745
00:32:28,140 --> 00:32:30,420
I mean, Rochet just
wants people to know
what's happening.
746
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,620
He's up on that farm
pulling the strings,
747
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,790
and you three are too young
or too stupid to realize it.
748
00:32:35,850 --> 00:32:39,920
I'm not sure insulting
them's the best way
to gain their confidence.
749
00:32:39,990 --> 00:32:41,060
JACK: This time a woman died.
750
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,190
McCoy.
751
00:32:42,260 --> 00:32:43,630
It's time they
grew up, counselor.
752
00:32:43,690 --> 00:32:46,730
You call it growing up.
We call it giving up.
753
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,610
You can't answer that
with slogans, Mr. Stadler.
754
00:32:53,670 --> 00:32:54,770
EMILY: Oh, my God.
755
00:32:55,540 --> 00:32:58,850
She was a school teacher.
Devoted to children.
756
00:32:59,510 --> 00:33:02,450
That's the end
of this conversation.
Let's go.
757
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,050
JACK: She was 24 years old.
758
00:33:05,110 --> 00:33:07,390
Only a year or so
older than you, Ms. Hoyt.
759
00:33:07,450 --> 00:33:09,090
I said, that's enough.
760
00:33:13,850 --> 00:33:16,130
Think they allow organic
produce in prison?
761
00:33:18,530 --> 00:33:20,530
They fell on their swords.
762
00:33:21,500 --> 00:33:23,940
I'm not sure they ever
had Rochet to give us.
763
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,480
So we make
examples of them?
764
00:33:25,530 --> 00:33:27,380
They've made examples
of themselves.
765
00:33:27,430 --> 00:33:32,110
You can't protest and demand
accountability of others,
and then not accept your own.
766
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,210
No movement was ever stopped
by making martyrs
of the foot soldiers, Jack.
767
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,950
I don't intend to
let them go down
that nobly.
768
00:33:40,710 --> 00:33:42,960
What makes us
so stupid
when we're 20.
769
00:33:48,060 --> 00:33:51,590
KENT: I knew Emily...
Uh, Ms. Hoyt,
from the Internet.
770
00:33:53,190 --> 00:33:56,800
Uh, Mr. Mohr and Mr. Stadler,
I didn't know their names.
771
00:33:56,930 --> 00:33:59,170
They came to New York
with Emily.
772
00:33:59,830 --> 00:34:01,470
They crashed with me
773
00:34:01,540 --> 00:34:04,640
when they came to New York to
burn down that building.
774
00:34:04,710 --> 00:34:05,950
Objection.
775
00:34:06,310 --> 00:34:07,480
Sustained.
776
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,110
Did they discuss with you
the purpose of their visit
to New York?
777
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:12,920
Objection.
778
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,420
JUDGE: Overruled.
779
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,620
They said they were here
to commit an action.
780
00:34:18,550 --> 00:34:20,120
To burn down
the building that
781
00:34:20,190 --> 00:34:22,460
had been built over
the community garden.
782
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,700
That's the word
they used? An action?
783
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:25,860
That's what
they called it.
784
00:34:25,930 --> 00:34:29,100
And to your knowledge,
did the defendants
carry out this action?
785
00:34:29,930 --> 00:34:32,430
They bought
a jug of gas and
786
00:34:33,830 --> 00:34:35,510
two alarm systems.
787
00:34:38,070 --> 00:34:42,040
People's "A" and "B",
Your Honor.
788
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,950
And on the night in question,
did you see the defendants?
789
00:34:47,010 --> 00:34:50,430
They left my apartment
about 6:30...
790
00:34:51,650 --> 00:34:56,000
They came back, maybe,
9:00-9:30. I'm not sure.
791
00:34:56,490 --> 00:34:57,660
There was a lot going on.
792
00:34:58,090 --> 00:34:59,400
JACK: A lot going on?
793
00:35:00,090 --> 00:35:01,730
They had heard
on the news
that some woman
794
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,300
had been killed in the fire,
and they were pretty upset.
795
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,110
Everyone talking at once.
796
00:35:06,300 --> 00:35:07,680
What were they saying?
797
00:35:07,730 --> 00:35:09,300
Noah was yelling at Clark.
798
00:35:09,370 --> 00:35:11,910
Saying Clark
was supposed to
check the building.
799
00:35:12,610 --> 00:35:15,020
Uh, Clark said no one
was supposed to be there.
800
00:35:15,410 --> 00:35:16,510
Things like that.
801
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:19,680
And Emily...
802
00:35:20,380 --> 00:35:21,520
Emily was crying.
803
00:35:21,580 --> 00:35:24,220
She kept saying,
over and over,
804
00:35:24,750 --> 00:35:26,490
"Nobody was supposed to die."
805
00:35:26,990 --> 00:35:28,190
Nothing further.
806
00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:36,170
Mr. Quigley,
the evening in question,
807
00:35:37,060 --> 00:35:38,370
when they left
your apartment,
808
00:35:38,430 --> 00:35:40,070
were you with the defendants?
809
00:35:40,130 --> 00:35:41,200
No, sir.
810
00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:45,680
So you don't really know
who did what that night,
do you?
811
00:35:45,770 --> 00:35:46,810
No.
812
00:35:46,870 --> 00:35:48,610
WHITTEN: And when
they came back,
813
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,620
it was your impression
my clients were upset
814
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,350
about the death
of Ms. Fried?
815
00:35:54,710 --> 00:35:56,020
They were very upset.
816
00:35:56,150 --> 00:35:59,150
WHITTEN: Because
the taking of human life
817
00:35:59,220 --> 00:36:02,030
wasn't at all the purpose
of this fire, was it?
818
00:36:02,090 --> 00:36:03,120
Objection.
819
00:36:03,190 --> 00:36:06,500
Defendants are charged
with an intentional crime,
Your Honor.
820
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,600
They're lives hang
in the balance.
821
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,170
I'll allow it. And watch
your step, counselor.
822
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:15,740
Mr. Quigley?
823
00:36:19,540 --> 00:36:22,080
There was a beautiful
garden on that lot.
824
00:36:23,780 --> 00:36:25,420
People grew things.
825
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,050
Kids had a chance
to put their hands
in the dirt.
826
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,690
Then... Then this
developer comes,
827
00:36:31,990 --> 00:36:37,060
bulldozes the whole thing,
paves it over like it had
never been there at all.
828
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,040
That was the purpose.
829
00:36:45,530 --> 00:36:47,310
To tell the world we cared.
830
00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:54,080
SERENA: Kids
playing in the sun.
831
00:36:54,140 --> 00:36:56,420
At the end there,
it felt more like
an Earth Day celebration
832
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:57,780
than a murder trial.
833
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,320
Whitten doesn't
get cop killers off
by accident.
834
00:37:00,380 --> 00:37:01,590
Well, at least
we still have Shollar.
835
00:37:01,650 --> 00:37:02,990
He can put Hoyt
at the scene.
836
00:37:03,050 --> 00:37:06,030
Whitten will
portray Shollar
as a cheating spouse,
837
00:37:06,090 --> 00:37:09,260
who abandoned his lover
in her time of need.
838
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,060
Won't help
his credibility much.
839
00:37:11,390 --> 00:37:13,100
What about flipping
one of them?
840
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,330
Divide and conquer?
Over Whitten's dead body.
841
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:16,640
Motion to sever?
842
00:37:17,530 --> 00:37:19,480
I don't feel like
losing three trials.
843
00:37:19,970 --> 00:37:22,070
So, the law lets
these kids try
and bury the truth
844
00:37:22,140 --> 00:37:23,670
about this case
in a little garden?
845
00:37:23,740 --> 00:37:26,650
Eventually, you reap
what you sow.
846
00:37:32,210 --> 00:37:33,920
This was
a gasoline-based fire.
847
00:37:33,980 --> 00:37:37,220
It burned very quickly
and produced an intense heat.
848
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,490
Your arson report
indicates four firemen
were overcome by smoke.
849
00:37:40,550 --> 00:37:43,000
LEY: Yes,
there was a tremendous
amount of smoke.
850
00:37:43,290 --> 00:37:45,670
Apparently, they were
laying the carpets
in the common areas,
851
00:37:45,730 --> 00:37:47,430
so the padding was in rolls.
852
00:37:47,490 --> 00:37:48,770
And once that went up...
853
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,140
Looking at
People's exhibit "C,"
854
00:37:53,830 --> 00:37:57,110
the apartment
where Melanie Fried's
body was found,
855
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,210
what was her chance
of surviving?
856
00:37:59,270 --> 00:38:00,480
Objection.
857
00:38:01,070 --> 00:38:04,650
Judge, a great deal
has been made of
the precision of this fire,
858
00:38:04,710 --> 00:38:07,020
how it was intended
to avoid injury.
859
00:38:07,950 --> 00:38:09,760
I think it's only fair
for the jury,
860
00:38:09,820 --> 00:38:14,160
to be afforded some insight
into what chance Melanie
Fried had to escape.
861
00:38:15,620 --> 00:38:18,070
You did open the door
to intent, Mr. Whitten.
862
00:38:18,530 --> 00:38:20,030
You can answer
the question.
863
00:38:21,060 --> 00:38:24,370
In my opinion,
Melanie Fried had
no chance of escape.
864
00:38:24,430 --> 00:38:25,470
Why not?
865
00:38:25,530 --> 00:38:27,310
Well, within
a matter of seconds,
866
00:38:27,370 --> 00:38:29,400
the room would have
been filled with smoke.
867
00:38:29,470 --> 00:38:32,080
Her last moments
would have been
in total blackness,
868
00:38:32,140 --> 00:38:33,520
struggling for air.
869
00:38:34,210 --> 00:38:36,690
If you can imagine
a person drowning in smoke.
870
00:38:40,250 --> 00:38:41,730
What about the fact
871
00:38:41,780 --> 00:38:45,750
that the fire
was set in the center
of the hallway?
872
00:38:46,490 --> 00:38:48,430
LEY: Very good
for letting firemen in.
873
00:38:48,490 --> 00:38:50,630
Not so good for letting
other people out.
874
00:38:52,130 --> 00:38:53,600
What about the heat?
875
00:38:54,130 --> 00:38:55,230
Searing.
876
00:38:55,630 --> 00:38:59,480
As the fire spread,
the room would have
been like an oven.
877
00:39:00,830 --> 00:39:04,780
So before Melanie Fried
mercifully passed out,
878
00:39:05,340 --> 00:39:06,610
she would have been
cooking to death.
879
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:08,850
WHITTEN: Your Honor...
880
00:39:09,410 --> 00:39:10,750
JUDGE: Mr. McCoy.
881
00:39:14,410 --> 00:39:15,520
Nothing further.
882
00:39:21,990 --> 00:39:24,400
You understand
the consequences
of pleading guilty?
883
00:39:24,460 --> 00:39:25,990
I just want
this to be over.
884
00:39:26,930 --> 00:39:29,100
Emily is prepared
to implicate
her co-defendants.
885
00:39:30,700 --> 00:39:32,340
What's she expecting
in return?
886
00:39:32,930 --> 00:39:36,540
I can't be a party
to those negotiations,
Mr. McCoy.
887
00:39:37,370 --> 00:39:40,150
At this point,
I'm recusing myself
as her counsel.
888
00:39:41,310 --> 00:39:43,620
Nonetheless, I thought
I had an obligation
889
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,250
as an officer of the court
to advise you
of my client's wishes.
890
00:39:47,850 --> 00:39:50,050
We appreciate your position,
Mr. Whitten.
891
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:51,720
SERENA: What
about the other two?
892
00:39:53,850 --> 00:39:55,830
They understand
once she testifies,
893
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,760
a plea won't
be re-offered?
894
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,230
My clients are at
an age when ideals
still mean something.
895
00:40:13,910 --> 00:40:15,180
So what happens now?
896
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,120
New counsel will be appointed
to discuss a plea bargain.
897
00:40:19,910 --> 00:40:21,690
Jail time will be involved.
898
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:24,560
I understand.
899
00:40:34,030 --> 00:40:37,200
You're asking me
to get on my website
and tell everybody to stop.
900
00:40:37,260 --> 00:40:40,640
Not protests, Mr. Rochet.
Just the violence.
901
00:40:41,130 --> 00:40:43,480
And in return you'll make
a reasonable sentencing
902
00:40:43,540 --> 00:40:45,680
recommendations
for Stadler and Mohr?
903
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,080
I'm no lawyer, Mr. McCoy,
but that doesn't sound kosher.
904
00:40:51,110 --> 00:40:52,450
Yes or no?
905
00:40:54,450 --> 00:40:56,430
What makes you think
they would listen?
906
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,460
Right or wrong,
these kids
read your website.
907
00:40:59,890 --> 00:41:03,990
They read about Coyote
burning down resorts
and attacking laboratories.
908
00:41:04,490 --> 00:41:06,490
They want to
emulate your actions.
909
00:41:07,930 --> 00:41:09,100
If you were to
denounce them...
910
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,770
They'd call me a turncoat,
and they'd go somewhere else.
911
00:41:12,870 --> 00:41:14,710
You support terrorism.
912
00:41:14,770 --> 00:41:17,480
I have blood on my hands?
Is that what you're saying?
913
00:41:18,410 --> 00:41:19,940
Why not prosecute me then?
914
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,180
There's legal
and moral guilt.
915
00:41:24,380 --> 00:41:27,650
And all those people
with emphysema who suffocate
because of pollution
916
00:41:27,710 --> 00:41:30,060
the same way that woman
suffocated in that fire?
917
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:34,430
Or drink toxic water
because of the chemicals
leeching into the watershed?
918
00:41:34,750 --> 00:41:36,890
Spare me.
I know the speech.
919
00:41:39,060 --> 00:41:41,200
Young people believe
the world can change.
920
00:41:41,260 --> 00:41:42,870
I won't tell them it can't.
921
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,740
So teach them how
to really change it.
922
00:41:51,100 --> 00:41:52,670
They're kids, Mr. Rochet.
923
00:41:57,310 --> 00:41:59,450
Every war has its casualties.
924
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,630
When Kent...
JACK: Mr. Quigley.
925
00:42:13,260 --> 00:42:16,800
Told me about the fight
over the community gardens,
926
00:42:17,100 --> 00:42:18,440
that's when we...
927
00:42:19,770 --> 00:42:23,540
Clark and Noah,
Mr. Mohr
and Mr. Stadler...
928
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,540
That's when
we decided to do it.
929
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:27,650
To do what?
930
00:42:29,740 --> 00:42:30,980
Set the fire.
931
00:42:31,610 --> 00:42:33,490
To burn down
the apartment building.
932
00:42:33,910 --> 00:42:35,690
But as a protest.
933
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,820
Cities are so crowded,
so messed up,
934
00:42:38,890 --> 00:42:42,590
and they keep building
big skyscrapers
that block out the sun.
935
00:42:43,260 --> 00:42:46,530
People don't have any access
to green, to the earth.
936
00:42:46,590 --> 00:42:48,630
They don't even know
what they're missing.
937
00:42:48,700 --> 00:42:51,010
We're destroying this planet.
938
00:42:51,060 --> 00:42:53,870
It gets worse every year,
and nobody does
anything about it.
939
00:42:53,930 --> 00:42:57,570
And we just thought,
"Shouldn't somebody
put a stop to it?"
940
00:42:58,940 --> 00:43:01,610
Shouldn't we do everything
we can to stop that?
941
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,160
We didn't know
there was anyone inside.
942
00:43:19,830 --> 00:43:21,240
Top count conviction.
943
00:43:21,860 --> 00:43:23,240
Emily Hoyt's testimony.
944
00:43:23,830 --> 00:43:25,070
What's she getting?
945
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,740
Five years.
Same as Quigley.
946
00:43:28,870 --> 00:43:30,400
And the other defendants?
947
00:43:32,470 --> 00:43:34,080
They were given
every chance.
948
00:43:36,740 --> 00:43:40,210
Two coyotes turned into
sacrificial lambs.
949
00:43:42,450 --> 00:43:43,620
(SIGHS)
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