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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,640 the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups- 2 00:00:06,700 --> 00:00:08,580 the police, who investigate crime, 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,350 and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. 4 00:00:11,410 --> 00:00:13,180 These are their stories. 5 00:00:15,410 --> 00:00:17,860 Laurie, I need more cash. 6 00:00:17,910 --> 00:00:20,120 Hey, where's my free egg roll? No egg roll. 7 00:00:20,180 --> 00:00:23,220 It says over $25, you're supposed to get a free egg roll. No egg roll. 8 00:00:23,290 --> 00:00:27,460 I told them not to put it in. Fried dumplings and orange chicken... You don't need any more grease. 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,060 Here you go. Keep the change. But I like the egg rolls. 10 00:00:30,130 --> 00:00:32,300 Stop being a baby. Come on. 11 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,100 [ TV, Indistinct] 12 00:00:46,610 --> 00:00:48,610 Oh, my God. 13 00:00:49,380 --> 00:00:52,550 Leah Glaser, 78. She took a nasty tumble. 14 00:00:52,610 --> 00:00:54,290 Well, what makes it not an accident? 15 00:00:54,350 --> 00:00:57,130 Security chain's ripped off the door jamb. Well, that would do it. 16 00:00:57,190 --> 00:01:00,720 Looks like a push-in, but the TV's still here and so is her purse. 17 00:01:00,790 --> 00:01:02,740 And we're checking on her next of kin. 18 00:01:02,790 --> 00:01:04,900 Brody, what do you got? 19 00:01:04,960 --> 00:01:07,410 Lacerated forehead, massive head trauma. 20 00:01:07,460 --> 00:01:09,410 You can tell from the fling. 21 00:01:09,460 --> 00:01:11,570 She fell back, hit her head, fractured her skull. 22 00:01:11,630 --> 00:01:16,580 So, she opens the door with the chain on, somebody kicks it in, and... 23 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,810 boom. Yeah, right between the eyes. Time of death? 24 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,150 An hour before the body was found. 25 00:01:22,210 --> 00:01:25,380 Hey, make sure that C.S.U. gets any lifts to Latent. 26 00:01:25,450 --> 00:01:27,980 After she fractured her skull, she was still alive. 27 00:01:28,050 --> 00:01:30,260 [Green] How do you know that? Petechial hemorrhages. 28 00:01:30,320 --> 00:01:32,770 Smothered her. With his hand, so hard... 29 00:01:32,820 --> 00:01:35,360 her dentures lacerated her gums. 30 00:01:35,420 --> 00:01:37,430 Vicious son of a bitch. Hey, Ed 31 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,940 She paid for these groceries at 3:33 p.m. 32 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,940 There's a quart of milk in here... 33 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,410 and a pint of half-melted ice cream. 34 00:01:46,470 --> 00:01:48,640 Well, obviously she didn't have time to put them away. 35 00:01:48,700 --> 00:01:52,480 So, the guy figured her for an easy mark, followed her home from the store. 36 00:01:52,540 --> 00:01:56,110 You know, that's a lot of groceries for an old lady to carry home by herself. 37 00:01:56,180 --> 00:01:58,420 Maybe she had them delivered. 38 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,220 Well, whoever it was, I wonder what he took. 39 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,590 The only thing that mattered. 40 00:02:55,500 --> 00:02:58,420 Mrs. Glaser's daughter is flying in from Israel to I.D. the body. 41 00:02:58,470 --> 00:03:00,580 We're hoping that maybe she could shed some light. 42 00:03:00,640 --> 00:03:05,020 Good news, bad news. Latent's pulled a full set of prints off the door jamb. 43 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,920 He must have grabbed it with both hands when he kicked the door in. 44 00:03:07,980 --> 00:03:10,400 Prints didn't set off any bells with B.C.I.? 45 00:03:10,450 --> 00:03:12,400 That's the bad news. They're not in the system. 46 00:03:12,450 --> 00:03:15,300 The M.E. on the scene said that she'd been dead about an hour, give or take. 47 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,800 According to the store, her groceries were delivered around 4:00 p.m. 48 00:03:18,860 --> 00:03:22,100 The delivery guy's a West African immigrant. No record. 49 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:26,480 And the body was discovered? 6:00, by another delivery man, Chinese take-out. 50 00:03:26,540 --> 00:03:29,310 Nice thing about New York... You never have to leave your apartment. 51 00:03:29,370 --> 00:03:32,510 So she was killed around 5:00? 52 00:03:32,570 --> 00:03:36,990 Yeah, we figure maybe the guy scoped her out at the store, then followed her groceries home. 53 00:03:37,050 --> 00:03:39,990 Or maybe the guy who delivered the groceries saw something that he liked... 54 00:03:40,050 --> 00:03:43,050 and decided to go back for it. We'll talk to him first. 55 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,900 Well, I'll call Robbery and see if there have been any other push-ins in the neighborhood. 56 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,060 Every Wednesday. Yesterday too? 57 00:03:50,130 --> 00:03:53,110 No, not yesterday. You didn't deliver her groceries yesterday? 58 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,510 She meet her friend, Miss Lu, at the store. 59 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,640 Miss Lu? Chinese young lady. 60 00:03:57,700 --> 00:03:59,870 She take the groceries. They walk home together. 61 00:03:59,940 --> 00:04:02,750 How do you know Miss Lu? Same building, down the hall. 62 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,580 I deliver her groceries too sometimes. 63 00:04:06,910 --> 00:04:09,620 [Woman] I got to know Leah when she broke her hip last summer. 64 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,090 She was laid up at St. Andrew's for a month. 65 00:04:12,150 --> 00:04:14,220 I went to see her every day. 66 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,560 We'd talk about sewing. She used to be a seamstress. 67 00:04:18,620 --> 00:04:20,570 She offered to make me a cup of tea. 68 00:04:20,620 --> 00:04:23,030 Maybe if I'd stayed... No, it wasn't your fault. 69 00:04:23,090 --> 00:04:25,040 Did you notice anybody in the store... 70 00:04:25,090 --> 00:04:28,010 that might have followed the two of you home? I don't think so, no. 71 00:04:28,060 --> 00:04:30,630 How about as you came in the building? Anybody catch your eye? 72 00:04:30,700 --> 00:04:33,580 I rode up with her, helped her get her groceries inside, and went home. 73 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,310 What time was that? Around 4:00. 74 00:04:36,370 --> 00:04:40,380 You know, on the way home, we stopped at the A.T.M. across the street so Leah could get some cash. 75 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,050 We found her, all she had was a few bucks in her purse. 76 00:04:43,110 --> 00:04:46,990 She didn't have a purse. I remember she took her bank card out of her pocket. 77 00:04:47,050 --> 00:04:49,460 [Green] How much did she withdraw? A hundred dollars, maybe. 78 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,290 Elderly woman with a wad of cash? 79 00:04:52,350 --> 00:04:55,490 Let's call the lieutenant. Let's get a list of those push-in robbery victims. 80 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,560 Thank you, sweetheart. 81 00:05:00,430 --> 00:05:02,700 Yeah, well, it happened just inside here. 82 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,470 I had a bag full of groceries, cat food and stuff like that. 83 00:05:05,530 --> 00:05:08,340 I put the bag down, take out my key, 84 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,850 put it in the lock here, open the door, 85 00:05:10,910 --> 00:05:12,850 and bam! 86 00:05:12,910 --> 00:05:14,850 There I am, kissing the floor! 87 00:05:14,910 --> 00:05:18,650 Then the bastard had a gun to the back of my head, 88 00:05:18,710 --> 00:05:21,690 told me if I turned around, he'd shoot me. 89 00:05:21,750 --> 00:05:24,700 Now, you told the police that the guy that robbed you was Latino? 90 00:05:24,750 --> 00:05:28,900 Yeah, yeah. He was Spanish. Can you give us anything else? 91 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,530 Uh, height, weight, color, age? 92 00:05:31,590 --> 00:05:33,540 Yeah, 40, maybe. 93 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,730 Uh, light-skinned. 94 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,510 I was too scared to look him square in the face, you know? 95 00:05:38,570 --> 00:05:41,670 Do you take photographs, Mr. Wallace? Stargaze, up on the roof. 96 00:05:41,740 --> 00:05:44,950 It was a beauty of a telescope. 97 00:05:45,010 --> 00:05:47,890 Punk went right for it. 98 00:05:47,940 --> 00:05:50,550 Ten or 15 years ago, I would have taken him out, you know? 99 00:05:50,610 --> 00:05:53,960 No fun getting old, huh? Beats the alternative. 100 00:05:54,020 --> 00:05:58,260 Of course, when I'm lugging these old bones over to St. Andrew's, 101 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,230 I'm not too sure I'm beating it by much. 102 00:06:00,290 --> 00:06:03,600 - St. Andrew's? - Yeah. That's where I get my dialysis. 103 00:06:03,660 --> 00:06:08,230 Same hospital where Leah Glaser had her hip surgery. 104 00:06:08,300 --> 00:06:11,280 Of the 12 names on this list, five were our patients. 105 00:06:11,330 --> 00:06:15,650 And their home addresses are in your records, right? Strictly confidential. 106 00:06:15,700 --> 00:06:19,020 And access to computers and patient records is tightly controlled. 107 00:06:19,070 --> 00:06:22,450 Yeah, but you've got all kinds of folks coming in and out of patients' rooms, right? 108 00:06:22,510 --> 00:06:24,460 Nurses, orderlies, visitors. 109 00:06:24,510 --> 00:06:27,460 Somebody takes a look in a purse, peeks into a wallet... 110 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,690 You're talking about two stroke victims, 111 00:06:29,750 --> 00:06:32,820 a kidney patient, a cardiac patient, and a woman who had hip surgery. 112 00:06:32,890 --> 00:06:36,460 That's four separate floors, two different wings. 113 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,660 And only the broken hip spent any real time here. Well, what about the other ones? 114 00:06:39,730 --> 00:06:43,010 Hospital policy: As soon as they're ambulatory, we send them home. 115 00:06:43,060 --> 00:06:45,770 - Man, that's cold. - “Managed care." 116 00:06:45,830 --> 00:06:48,010 Emphasis on “managed.“ 117 00:06:48,070 --> 00:06:50,050 We have excellent follow-up therapy. 118 00:06:50,110 --> 00:06:54,080 Every patient gets a qualified caregiver and a thorough home therapy regimen. 119 00:06:54,140 --> 00:06:56,620 You got a list of these qualified caregivers? 120 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,920 We contract all that to a private agency. 121 00:07:02,420 --> 00:07:05,400 All of our employees are screened and fingerprinted 122 00:07:05,450 --> 00:07:08,260 Okay, we're gonna need their records and the names... 123 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,630 of whoever took care of these five patients. 124 00:07:12,060 --> 00:07:15,970 Leah Glaser. Broken hip. Sweet old lady. 125 00:07:17,370 --> 00:07:19,310 Pauline Morris. Pauline's a doll. 126 00:07:19,370 --> 00:07:22,370 Been with us seven years. Never had any complaints. Patients love her. 127 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,040 Okay. How about the other four? 128 00:07:26,980 --> 00:07:29,580 Well, that's a coincidence. 129 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,250 Pauline was the caregiver for all five. 130 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,490 Some coincidence. 131 00:07:35,550 --> 00:07:38,760 What's this about? Your work with the elderly. 132 00:07:38,820 --> 00:07:41,560 Yes? You know a Leah Glaser? 133 00:07:41,620 --> 00:07:43,760 One of my patients. 134 00:07:45,530 --> 00:07:48,370 You like astronomy, Ms. Morris? That's my son's. 135 00:07:48,430 --> 00:07:52,500 The mount's still attached. Where's the tripod? 136 00:07:52,570 --> 00:07:56,670 We got it secondhand. Yeah, I think the term these days is “pre-owned." 137 00:07:56,740 --> 00:07:58,810 I'm sorry... This is a pretty good scam. 138 00:07:58,870 --> 00:08:02,150 You help out the elderly, and then you help yourself to their things. What? 139 00:08:02,210 --> 00:08:06,090 The telescope. We're betting it belonged to a Stan Wallace. 140 00:08:06,150 --> 00:08:10,320 You think I stole that from him? In the last six months, you've had nine patients. 141 00:08:10,390 --> 00:08:13,660 Five of them have been robbed at gunpoint. How's it work? 142 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,330 You identify the mark and then when you're gone, somebody comes in and terrorizes these old folks? 143 00:08:17,390 --> 00:08:19,600 I swear, I don't know what you're talking about. 144 00:08:19,660 --> 00:08:21,870 How did Mr. Wallace's telescope end up in your apartment? 145 00:08:21,930 --> 00:08:23,910 That's not Mr. Wallace's! 146 00:08:23,970 --> 00:08:27,000 It was a gift for my son's graduation from my fiancé. 147 00:08:27,070 --> 00:08:30,020 - He bought it at a flea market. - Oh, yeah? What's your fiancé's name? 148 00:08:30,070 --> 00:08:33,110 Joe Vasquez. And he works in the health care business too? 149 00:08:33,170 --> 00:08:35,120 He drives for an ambulette service. 150 00:08:35,180 --> 00:08:37,950 Yeah, what, picks them up at home, takes them to the doctor, like that? 151 00:08:38,010 --> 00:08:40,690 Yes. 152 00:08:40,750 --> 00:08:43,420 You don't think Joe... Actually, we do. 153 00:08:43,490 --> 00:08:45,430 Where can we find Joe now? 154 00:08:45,490 --> 00:08:48,300 Working. 155 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,500 He told me this was his grandmother's. 156 00:08:50,560 --> 00:08:53,770 Yeah, it was somebody's grandmother's. 157 00:08:53,830 --> 00:08:57,370 You casing new prospects, Joe? Say again? 158 00:08:57,430 --> 00:09:01,900 She ain't got no doorman. Nice old lady needs a hand. just like your other jobs. 159 00:09:01,970 --> 00:09:04,780 Don't know what you're talking about. I have one job. You're looking at it. Okay? 160 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:09,220 Well, we'd love to take your word for it, Joe, but one of your references checked out permanently. 161 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,780 What are you doing, man? You an astronomy buff, Joe? 162 00:09:11,850 --> 00:09:13,990 What? That telescope you gave your fiancée? 163 00:09:14,050 --> 00:09:16,330 We know where you got it, and it wasn't at a flea market. 164 00:09:16,380 --> 00:09:18,560 You've heard of the seven rings of Saturn? 165 00:09:18,620 --> 00:09:20,930 These are the two rings of Rikers. 166 00:09:25,690 --> 00:09:29,900 I ain't robbed nobody, okay? We got an eyewitness who picked you out of a six-pack, Joe. 167 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,500 One of your victims. Eyewitness to what? I ain't done nothing. 168 00:09:33,570 --> 00:09:36,110 We got people searching your place as we speak. 169 00:09:36,170 --> 00:09:39,480 And what do you think they're gonna find, huh? All right, look. 170 00:09:39,540 --> 00:09:42,450 Maybe I buy and sell some stuff sometimes, you know, off the books, okay? 171 00:09:42,510 --> 00:09:47,580 Oh, so you're just a fence, right? Not an armed robber who preys on old people. 172 00:09:47,650 --> 00:09:50,690 Look, I take stuff on consignment, you know? 173 00:09:50,750 --> 00:09:52,700 I ain't no armed robber. 174 00:09:52,750 --> 00:09:55,360 What are we gonna find in your place, Joe? Something belonging to a dead woman? 175 00:09:55,420 --> 00:09:58,840 Dead woman? No way. Uh-uh. No way, man. 176 00:09:58,890 --> 00:10:01,570 You fractured an old lady's skull and smothered her during a robbery. 177 00:10:01,630 --> 00:10:05,440 - We call that felony murder. - I told you. I don't know nothing about no dead lady! 178 00:10:05,500 --> 00:10:07,570 You don't know this woman? 179 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,280 Never seen her. Don't know her. 180 00:10:10,340 --> 00:10:13,620 Uh-uh. Take another look. Come on, man. 181 00:10:13,680 --> 00:10:15,780 Don't you think I'd remember? 182 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,220 Do you remember where you were Wednesday afternoon? 183 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,420 Wednesday? Wednesday... 184 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,560 Yeah. Um-- Yeah, I dropped a guy off at the clinic for an overnight. 185 00:10:25,620 --> 00:10:29,860 On the way back to the garage, I got stuck on the F.D.R., jammed in traffic for an hour and a half. 186 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,460 No way in, no way out. And no way for anybody to vouch for you. 187 00:10:33,530 --> 00:10:38,200 Talk to Dougie. He's my dispatcher, okay? 188 00:10:38,270 --> 00:10:40,750 We spent the whole time jawin' on the radio. 189 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:45,440 I told him the next time the damn president's in town, I'm taking the day off. 190 00:10:45,510 --> 00:10:48,180 You guys want to know about Vasquez, right? 191 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,250 He's on 7:00 to 3:00, weekdays. 192 00:10:50,310 --> 00:10:53,160 He said you two were burning up the radio this last Wednesday. 193 00:10:53,210 --> 00:10:55,750 The president came in to talk to the U.N. that day. 194 00:10:55,820 --> 00:10:58,800 Major meltdown. Vasquez was in the middle of it, goin' out of his mind. 195 00:10:58,850 --> 00:11:01,660 That's what he told you, but you don't know that for a fact. 196 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,070 Hey, I believed him, because he kept calling me to bitch about it. 197 00:11:05,130 --> 00:11:10,240 So whatever you think he did, he would have had to do it with one hand on his radio, because he never shut the hell up. 198 00:11:10,300 --> 00:11:13,400 Did Vasquez ever drive an old lady named Leah Glaser? 199 00:11:13,470 --> 00:11:15,810 Name rings a bell. 200 00:11:17,270 --> 00:11:19,270 Uh... 201 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,260 Uh, not Vasquez. Johnny Kagan. Monday. 202 00:11:23,310 --> 00:11:27,760 Drove her downtown, Federal Plaza. Why are you interested in these guys? 203 00:11:27,820 --> 00:11:30,520 Vasquez and Kagan... What do you know about them? 204 00:11:30,590 --> 00:11:33,090 Friends of my cousin. Uh, came in a couple of years ago... 205 00:11:33,150 --> 00:11:35,460 looking to turn over a new lease on life. 206 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,900 Came here from where? California. 207 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,340 The two of them just finished a nickel jolt out in Lompoc. 208 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,270 "Nickel jolt." You sound like an old yardbird yourself. 209 00:11:43,330 --> 00:11:46,210 Everybody deserves a second chance, Detective. 210 00:11:46,270 --> 00:11:49,410 - What were they in for? - Why don't you pull their sheets? 211 00:11:49,470 --> 00:11:51,780 Why don't you tell us before we pull yours? 212 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,840 [Sighs] I don't know. 213 00:11:53,910 --> 00:11:55,850 Armed robbery, maybe. 214 00:12:00,450 --> 00:12:02,890 Joe did some thing he shouldn't have, that's his business. 215 00:12:02,950 --> 00:12:07,490 Yeah, we figure you and Vasquez are in business together, tag-teaming senior citizens. 216 00:12:07,560 --> 00:12:10,590 I'm straight these days, Detective. Keep my nose to the grindstone. 217 00:12:10,660 --> 00:12:14,110 Your dispatcher said that you picked up a client named Leah Glaser Monday. 218 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:18,170 If that's what he says. Yeah, well, she's dead. Somebody killed her. 219 00:12:18,230 --> 00:12:22,080 Now do we have your attention? Man, I didn't have nothing to do with that. 220 00:12:22,140 --> 00:12:25,580 Where did you take her? Dropped her off downtown at Federal Plaza. 221 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,090 How'd she get home? Said she'd take a cab. 222 00:12:28,140 --> 00:12:30,680 Federal Plaza? You see what building she went in? No. 223 00:12:30,750 --> 00:12:33,560 No idea. And she didn't tell me where she was going, okay? 224 00:12:33,620 --> 00:12:37,090 Can I get back to work now? Yeah, go ahead. Get lost. 225 00:12:37,150 --> 00:12:40,360 Man, she could have gone anywhere... courts, government offices. 226 00:12:40,420 --> 00:12:42,830 You ready to work off that lunch? We didn't have lunch. 227 00:12:42,890 --> 00:12:46,360 Exactly. I'm gonna call Lieu, tell her we're gonna be a while. 228 00:12:47,560 --> 00:12:50,910 My mother was a survivor. 229 00:12:50,970 --> 00:12:54,340 I don't mean in the casual way... 230 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,810 people say “I'm a survivor”... 231 00:12:56,870 --> 00:12:59,370 after they get a divorce. 232 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,320 I mean literally She was in a camp. 233 00:13:02,380 --> 00:13:04,320 In Poland. 234 00:13:04,380 --> 00:13:06,990 That she should come through all that... 235 00:13:07,050 --> 00:13:10,790 and then die in some stupid holdup... 236 00:13:10,850 --> 00:13:14,060 Mrs. Meisner, have you been able to go through your mother's things? 237 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,360 Was there anything missing? 238 00:13:16,420 --> 00:13:20,340 A locket. A silver locket. 239 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,270 It had a picture of her mother and father... 240 00:13:23,330 --> 00:13:25,970 my grandparents. 241 00:13:26,030 --> 00:13:28,410 She never... 242 00:13:28,470 --> 00:13:30,420 She never took it off. 243 00:13:30,470 --> 00:13:34,540 It's the only thing she had from her life before the war. 244 00:13:34,610 --> 00:13:37,390 God knows how she managed to hang onto it. 245 00:13:37,450 --> 00:13:41,890 I'm sorry. She wasn't wearing any other jewelry when she was found. 246 00:13:41,950 --> 00:13:44,590 I wanted to pass that along to my daughter. 247 00:13:44,650 --> 00:13:48,900 Something to remember her nana by. 248 00:13:49,890 --> 00:13:52,430 If we find it... 249 00:13:52,490 --> 00:13:55,410 Now, your mother had an appointment downtown... 250 00:13:55,460 --> 00:13:58,970 near the courthouses a couple of days before she died. 251 00:13:59,030 --> 00:14:01,450 Do you know why she might have been down there? 252 00:14:01,500 --> 00:14:04,380 Any legal business she might have had? 253 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,940 A will, maybe. I don't know. 254 00:14:07,010 --> 00:14:09,180 Maybe she was getting her passport renewed, 255 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,190 planning to visit you in Israel? 256 00:14:11,250 --> 00:14:13,780 The last time I spoke to her, she mentioned... 257 00:14:13,850 --> 00:14:16,520 she was going to Immigration again. 258 00:14:16,580 --> 00:14:19,500 Is that downtown? Immigration... You know why? 259 00:14:19,550 --> 00:14:22,870 This was about her Shoah testimony, I think. 260 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,800 “Shoah testimony"? The Shoah Project. 261 00:14:26,860 --> 00:14:30,310 It's a videotaped oral history of the Holocaust... 262 00:14:30,370 --> 00:14:34,540 to record the truth before all the witnesses are dead... 263 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,520 and the whole world forgets what happened. 264 00:14:40,910 --> 00:14:44,010 Leah Glaser... She was here last Monday. 265 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,460 What was she doing here? It doesn't say. 266 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:51,160 It's gotta be in there somewhere. I'm looking. 267 00:14:52,620 --> 00:14:56,570 [Sighs] Some D.O.J. bigwig pulled her file. Department of justice? 268 00:14:56,620 --> 00:14:59,070 Someone in Criminal Division. When they pull a file, 269 00:14:59,130 --> 00:15:01,400 it usually has something to do with Homeland Security. 270 00:15:01,460 --> 00:15:04,670 Her name was Leah Glaser. She was 78 years old. 271 00:15:04,730 --> 00:15:07,300 Does that sound like a security risk to you? Don't ask me. 272 00:15:07,370 --> 00:15:09,310 Ask Criminal. Sixth floor. 273 00:15:12,540 --> 00:15:14,680 Our records show she met with Dennis Mendenhall. 274 00:15:14,740 --> 00:15:16,690 Okay we 're gonna need to talk to him. 275 00:15:16,740 --> 00:15:19,250 Dennis doesn't work out of this office. He's with O.S.I. 276 00:15:19,310 --> 00:15:22,490 D.O.J., O.S.I... Government alphabet soup. 277 00:15:22,550 --> 00:15:26,730 Office of Special Investigations. Was Leah Glaser being investigated? 278 00:15:26,790 --> 00:15:29,390 Sorry. I'm not authorized to talk about that. 279 00:15:29,460 --> 00:15:33,410 Look, we're not asking because we're nosy. Ms. Glaser was murdered. 280 00:15:33,460 --> 00:15:37,670 Oh, my God. 281 00:15:37,730 --> 00:15:40,840 - I wonder... - You wonder what? 282 00:15:42,970 --> 00:15:46,210 She was a witness in a deportation proceeding. 283 00:15:46,270 --> 00:15:49,740 If it was a deportation proceeding, why wouldn't Immigration handle it? 284 00:15:49,810 --> 00:15:53,850 Because O.S.I. handles all cases relating to war crimes. 285 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,760 - But she wasn't being investigated? - No, she wasn't. 286 00:15:56,820 --> 00:16:00,890 She was testifying against a camp guard, an S.S. officer. 287 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,940 A Nazi. 288 00:16:06,330 --> 00:16:08,570 Stefan Anders, German national, 289 00:16:08,630 --> 00:16:10,870 immigrated here in 1948. 290 00:16:10,930 --> 00:16:13,070 And you think he's a Nazi? 291 00:16:13,130 --> 00:16:17,110 I've spent the last seven years de-naturalizing him, stripping him of his citizenship. 292 00:16:17,170 --> 00:16:21,180 Next step, deportation. So why are you giving up now? 293 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:25,420 Lt. Van Buren, have you ever had trouble finding credible eyewitnesses to your cases? 294 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,660 Of course we do. Try finding one to something that happened 60 years ago. 295 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,130 Anders was a guard in a place called Bobrek, 296 00:16:32,190 --> 00:16:35,000 a, uh, satellite camp of Auschwitz, 297 00:16:35,060 --> 00:16:38,630 which manufactured airplane and submarine parts. 298 00:16:38,690 --> 00:16:42,140 Leah Glaser was a slave laborer there. 299 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,140 Anders was the S.S. officer in charge. 300 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,240 Leah Glaser identified him from this photo... 301 00:16:47,300 --> 00:16:50,250 his Waffen S.S. file. 302 00:16:50,300 --> 00:16:52,480 After the Soviet Union opened their archives in the early '90s, 303 00:16:52,540 --> 00:16:55,380 they turned it over to us. You can hardly see his face. 304 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,190 This was what, 60 years ago? How could she be so sure? 305 00:16:59,250 --> 00:17:02,350 One morning he shot six other prisoners... 306 00:17:02,420 --> 00:17:04,360 right in front of her. 307 00:17:04,420 --> 00:17:08,530 She couldn't forget him. You looked at her Shoah testimony. 308 00:17:09,790 --> 00:17:12,240 Her description of this one guard, 309 00:17:12,290 --> 00:17:15,870 this one particular incident, sounded like Anders, 310 00:17:15,930 --> 00:17:19,640 so we contacted her, and she picked him out of a photo array. 311 00:17:19,700 --> 00:17:23,240 And you're convinced that this Anders is the same Anders... 312 00:17:23,300 --> 00:17:26,510 who's alive and well and living on East 91 st Street? 313 00:17:26,570 --> 00:17:30,320 And has been for the last 50 years. 314 00:17:30,380 --> 00:17:34,220 Yeah, we are, and so was Leah Glaser. 315 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,630 But without her testimony? 316 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,720 Unless we can find more evidence, 317 00:17:39,790 --> 00:17:43,630 he's gonna die on that nice, soft bed on East 91 st Street. 318 00:17:43,690 --> 00:17:47,370 If he killed her to stop her from testifying, that's murder one. 319 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,740 You know, Lieutenant, there's one place we've never been able to search for evidence against him... 320 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,340 his home. 321 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:59,110 See, that's where Criminal has it all over Civil. 322 00:18:00,110 --> 00:18:02,590 Man's a murder suspect. 323 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,020 What exactly do you think you're gonna find? 324 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,030 Memorabilia from your father? goose-stepping days. 325 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,390 That is so offensive. He wasn't a Nazi. 326 00:18:11,450 --> 00:18:13,590 Not every German was a Nazi. 327 00:18:13,650 --> 00:18:15,600 Yeah, they were just following orders. 328 00:18:15,660 --> 00:18:19,160 I was a soldier, a veteran, like you. 329 00:18:19,230 --> 00:18:22,040 Not like me, pal. This is a witch hunt, 330 00:18:22,100 --> 00:18:24,200 an O.S.I. fishing expedition. 331 00:18:24,270 --> 00:18:27,710 Yeah, they're persecuting an innocent old man Just for the hell of it. 332 00:18:27,770 --> 00:18:30,480 Search all you want. I'm not hiding anything. 333 00:18:30,540 --> 00:18:33,210 Dad, I'm calling a lawyer. [Green] He's gonna need one. 334 00:18:33,270 --> 00:18:35,280 Lennie, look what I found. 335 00:18:40,180 --> 00:18:42,590 I don't know anything about this locket. 336 00:18:42,650 --> 00:18:45,030 Yeah, right. It just magically appeared in your stuff, 337 00:18:45,090 --> 00:18:47,860 next to your passport and your social security card. 338 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,270 Someone sent it to me. See, you do know something about it. 339 00:18:51,330 --> 00:18:53,570 [Green] Who sent it'? I don't know. 340 00:18:53,630 --> 00:18:56,230 Now, why would somebody send you Leah Glaser's locket? 341 00:18:56,300 --> 00:18:59,180 I don't know. And I don't know this Glaser person. 342 00:18:59,230 --> 00:19:01,870 Leah Glaser. She was gonna get you deported... 343 00:19:01,940 --> 00:19:04,420 back to the old country, [German Accent] the fatherland. 344 00:19:04,470 --> 00:19:08,010 You mean the so-called witness? I never met her. 345 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,580 - You took that locket from her neck! - I told you... 346 00:19:11,650 --> 00:19:14,990 - After you killed her! - And your big mistake was holding onto the locket. 347 00:19:15,050 --> 00:19:17,930 Mrs. Glaser's daughter's going to identify it as her mother's. 348 00:19:17,990 --> 00:19:20,490 We're gonna find your prints all over it. I never met her. 349 00:19:20,550 --> 00:19:23,500 And then we're gonna match those prints with your prints from the crime scene. 350 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,760 - It's impossible. I was never there. - You're lying. 351 00:19:25,830 --> 00:19:28,470 I'm not! [Man] Quit browbeating my client. 352 00:19:28,530 --> 00:19:32,030 Stefan, not another word. This interrogation is over. 353 00:19:35,500 --> 00:19:38,310 Stefan Anders was never a murderer... not then, not now. 354 00:19:38,370 --> 00:19:42,080 He never met Mrs. Glaser. He was unaware of the locket's provenance. 355 00:19:42,140 --> 00:19:44,650 It was sent to him by an unknown party. 356 00:19:44,710 --> 00:19:48,520 How does he explain this, which the police found in his papers? 357 00:19:48,580 --> 00:19:52,690 His 1948 visa application to enter the United States. 358 00:19:52,750 --> 00:19:56,830 - So what? - Compare that visa photo with this. 359 00:19:56,890 --> 00:20:00,840 - What's this? - It's from Mr. Anders's Waffen S.S. file. 360 00:20:00,900 --> 00:20:05,110 The photograph you used to enter this country in 1948... 361 00:20:05,170 --> 00:20:09,010 is the same as the one in your S.S. personnel file. 362 00:20:09,070 --> 00:20:13,680 - That can't be. - The Russians turned it over to O.S.I. a few years ago. 363 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,890 All right. 364 00:20:21,250 --> 00:20:25,060 I was a soldier on the Eastern Front. 365 00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:27,120 A young officer. 366 00:20:27,190 --> 00:20:30,760 After Stalingrad, the S.S. sent me to Bobrek. 367 00:20:30,830 --> 00:20:34,170 The war was lost. All that was left was the final solution. 368 00:20:34,230 --> 00:20:37,730 You think I had a choice? You think I wanted to be guarding prisoners in some miserable camp? 369 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,510 The O.S.I. says that you were the officer in charge. Ridiculous. 370 00:20:41,570 --> 00:20:44,180 I escorted the prisoners... 371 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,720 from the barracks to the factory every day, 372 00:20:46,770 --> 00:20:48,720 and then back again in the evening. 373 00:20:48,780 --> 00:20:51,450 That's all. I never harmed a prisoner. 374 00:20:51,510 --> 00:20:53,460 Not one. Not ever. 375 00:20:53,510 --> 00:20:55,590 Not according to Leah Glaser. 376 00:20:55,650 --> 00:20:57,600 It wasn't me who killed those prisoners. 377 00:20:57,650 --> 00:21:00,690 She has me confused with another guard. [Attorney] We weren't worried. 378 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,930 Her word against his. 379 00:21:02,990 --> 00:21:05,870 That was before we found his visa photograph. 380 00:21:05,930 --> 00:21:08,600 Well, yes. Now, that evidence is enough to get him deported. 381 00:21:08,660 --> 00:21:12,970 He lied about his background to get into this country. He admits it. 382 00:21:13,030 --> 00:21:16,070 But if you hadn't searched his home and found that photograph 383 00:21:16,140 --> 00:21:18,140 he would have beaten deportation. 384 00:21:18,210 --> 00:21:21,710 - What has happened is a disaster for me. - What I'm saying is, 385 00:21:21,780 --> 00:21:23,980 he had no reason to kill her. 386 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,820 The appeals process on deportation alone would have lasted years. 387 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:33,490 - You thought you'd outlive her. - One of us was bound to die before this was settled. 388 00:21:33,550 --> 00:21:36,970 - You made sure it was her. - All right, look. Since you insist... 389 00:21:37,020 --> 00:21:39,000 on going through with this. 390 00:21:44,930 --> 00:21:47,670 He's seeking to bar us from characterizing Mr. Anders... 391 00:21:47,740 --> 00:21:51,080 as a Nazi at trial. 392 00:21:51,140 --> 00:21:53,850 Talk about chutzpah. 393 00:21:57,110 --> 00:21:59,920 Your Honor, labeling Stefan Anders as a Nazi.. 394 00:21:59,980 --> 00:22:02,930 Will prevent him from ever receiving a fair trial. 395 00:22:02,980 --> 00:22:06,430 The mere mention of the word is enough to condemn him in the eyes of any jury. 396 00:22:06,490 --> 00:22:09,300 He has a point, Mr. McCoy. It couldn't be a more loaded word. 397 00:22:09,360 --> 00:22:13,770 Mr. Anders's motive arises out of his personal history as an S.S. officer... 398 00:22:13,830 --> 00:22:15,770 and a member of the Nazi party. 399 00:22:15,830 --> 00:22:18,170 His past is part and parcel of the People's case. 400 00:22:18,230 --> 00:22:20,180 Mr. Jensen? 401 00:22:20,230 --> 00:22:23,840 Then you must give my client the opportunity to explain his past... 402 00:22:23,900 --> 00:22:26,010 in its historical context. 403 00:22:26,070 --> 00:22:29,450 Are you going to offer evidence that he wasn't a Nazi or an S.S. officer? 404 00:22:29,510 --> 00:22:32,490 I'm going to offer evidence that the commonly accepted version... 405 00:22:32,550 --> 00:22:34,990 of the Second World War is wrong. 406 00:22:35,050 --> 00:22:37,720 That there was no Holocaust, there were no death camps, 407 00:22:37,790 --> 00:22:41,290 and there certainly was no final solution. Your Honor, please. 408 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:44,360 Did hundreds of thousands of Jews die? Yes. 409 00:22:44,430 --> 00:22:47,630 And not only Jews, but Gypsies, Poles, Russians... yes. 410 00:22:47,700 --> 00:22:51,170 But those deaths weren't murders. They weren't genocide. 411 00:22:51,230 --> 00:22:55,680 They were the inevitable result of disease, of starvation, of war. 412 00:22:55,740 --> 00:22:59,620 Every respectable historian in the world would disagree. 413 00:22:59,670 --> 00:23:02,180 There are distinguished academics who think otherwise. 414 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,750 Holocaust deniers, cranks, 415 00:23:04,810 --> 00:23:07,920 anti-Semites disguising their real agenda. 416 00:23:07,980 --> 00:23:11,590 Meretricious nonsense does not become expert testimony... 417 00:23:11,650 --> 00:23:14,720 just because it comes wrapped in a Ph.D.! 418 00:23:14,790 --> 00:23:18,400 Why don't we let a jury decide what's fringe nonsense and what's not? 419 00:23:18,460 --> 00:23:22,030 Why don't we let a judge decide first? 420 00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:25,440 We would happily accept an evidentiary hearing, Your Honor. Nothing would please us more. 421 00:23:25,500 --> 00:23:29,000 Your Honor can't entertain this disreputable, evil theory. 422 00:23:29,070 --> 00:23:31,240 If someone insists the earth is flat... 423 00:23:31,310 --> 00:23:35,050 and the sun circles around it, despite all evidence to the contrary, 424 00:23:35,110 --> 00:23:38,280 are we supposed to engage the argument on their terms? 425 00:23:38,350 --> 00:23:41,550 - This is a conversation with a lunatic! - Hold your horses, Mr. McCoy. 426 00:23:41,620 --> 00:23:43,560 I agree. [Pills Rattle in jar] 427 00:23:43,620 --> 00:23:46,790 No rational, unbiased person could look at the historical evidence... 428 00:23:46,850 --> 00:23:49,560 and doubt the fact of the Holocaust. 429 00:23:49,620 --> 00:23:52,430 It cannot be disputed, 430 00:23:52,490 --> 00:23:54,700 nor will it be in my court. 431 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,910 The whole question's irrelevant. 432 00:23:58,970 --> 00:24:02,180 Anders is being deported whether the Holocaust happened or not. 433 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,650 It doesn't make any difference. I mean, he still had motive to murder the old lady. 434 00:24:06,710 --> 00:24:09,810 Arguing about whether the Holocaust actually happened... 435 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,920 It's not something I'd ever thought I'd have to do in court or out. 436 00:24:13,980 --> 00:24:16,790 Now, Jensen knew it never stood the ghost of a chance. 437 00:24:18,150 --> 00:24:20,460 What are you saying? It was a ploy? 438 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,330 Judge Karan kicks out his motion, gives him more grounds for appeal. 439 00:24:23,390 --> 00:24:25,370 It's what it's about with these old guys. 440 00:24:25,430 --> 00:24:28,960 I mean, stall and delay, whatever it takes to run out the clock. 441 00:24:30,100 --> 00:24:33,170 How does a retired mechanic retain a pricey mouthpiece like Jensen? 442 00:24:33,230 --> 00:24:36,210 I was wondering the same thing myself. 443 00:24:36,270 --> 00:24:38,750 I don't suppose he was doing it pro bono. 444 00:24:38,810 --> 00:24:41,840 Worth looking at. [Knocking] 445 00:24:41,910 --> 00:24:45,320 The crime lab matched Anders's D.N.A. to a sample taken from Leah Glaser's door. 446 00:24:45,380 --> 00:24:48,450 He left his sweat on the doorknob and peephole. 447 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,650 Now you got him. What about the fingerprints? 448 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,320 A print on the locket matches a print found on the door jamb, but... 449 00:24:53,390 --> 00:24:55,870 It isn't Anders's. 450 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,160 It looks like somebody else kicked down that door. 451 00:25:04,270 --> 00:25:06,370 Do you think this exonerates Anders? 452 00:25:06,430 --> 00:25:08,740 Not at all. Leah Glaser's death... 453 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,150 had to be connected to her testimony against Anders. 454 00:25:12,210 --> 00:25:15,880 We can assume there was an accomplice, and so will a jury. 455 00:25:15,940 --> 00:25:19,120 Well, Anders now admits that he did go see her after the preliminary hearing. 456 00:25:19,180 --> 00:25:23,860 He said that she wouldn't let him in, so he talked to her through the door for a few minutes and then left. 457 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,200 What about the son? Came in voluntarily and gave his fingerprints. 458 00:25:27,250 --> 00:25:30,500 They're not his. Time to cast a wider net. 459 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,870 We checked Anders's phone and financial records. 460 00:25:32,930 --> 00:25:36,640 You know, there is actually a Web site supporting Anders's deportation fight. 461 00:25:36,700 --> 00:25:39,340 Maybe they're contributing to his defense. 462 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,850 Somebody's got to be paying for Jensen. 463 00:25:41,900 --> 00:25:45,180 What about this preliminary hearing? Check the sign-in sheet. 464 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,580 See if anyone else turned up to cheer on their hero. 465 00:25:49,710 --> 00:25:53,350 We found one interesting hit from that sign-in sheet... 466 00:25:53,410 --> 00:25:55,790 Kyle Mellors. Who's Kyle Mellors? 467 00:25:55,850 --> 00:25:59,850 He's a record producer. And this is from his company Web site. 468 00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:02,760 Heritage Records? Sounds benign, right? 469 00:26:02,820 --> 00:26:06,130 But then you begin clicking around that Web site. 470 00:26:06,190 --> 00:26:08,430 It's hardcore W.P. W.P.? 471 00:26:08,500 --> 00:26:12,030 “White power." Check out the links on that site. 472 00:26:12,100 --> 00:26:16,070 Nazi memorabilia. An “ethnic cleansing" video game. 473 00:26:16,140 --> 00:26:18,410 A picture of Hitler in an Uncle Sam top hat and suit, 474 00:26:18,470 --> 00:26:20,420 with his arm out, pointing. 475 00:26:20,470 --> 00:26:23,790 And here's some praise for the 9/11 hijackers. 476 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,880 “Wish we had the guts to do what they did." 477 00:26:27,950 --> 00:26:31,050 “Holocaust Barbecue Sauce, six million served.” 478 00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:35,190 They deny the Holocaust and celebrate it simultaneously 479 00:26:35,260 --> 00:26:38,530 A neat trick. Did you listen to the records? 480 00:26:38,590 --> 00:26:40,800 I just read the catalogue descriptions. 481 00:26:40,860 --> 00:26:44,310 It's all about “mud people" and white supremacy... 482 00:26:44,360 --> 00:26:47,210 and killing Jews and blacks. 483 00:26:47,270 --> 00:26:51,510 So Mellors is a neo-Nazi who went to the hearing to support Anders. 484 00:26:51,570 --> 00:26:54,310 There's a link on the Heritage Records Web site... 485 00:26:54,370 --> 00:26:58,320 which has been raising money to fight Anders's deportation. 486 00:26:58,380 --> 00:27:03,330 "Stefan Anders, innocent man targeted by Zionist opportunists"? 487 00:27:03,380 --> 00:27:05,560 You get into Heritage Records' financials, 488 00:27:05,620 --> 00:27:09,470 and I'll bet you'll find they've been shoveling money into Anders's defense fund. 489 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,730 I'll get a subpoena. Have Briscoe and Green... 490 00:27:12,790 --> 00:27:14,830 drop in on Mellors for a chat. 491 00:27:14,900 --> 00:27:16,840 Briscoe and Green. 492 00:27:16,900 --> 00:27:20,140 That ought to push his buttons. 493 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,480 [Distorted Guitar] 494 00:27:23,540 --> 00:27:26,640 - We're in the middle of a session. - Ours is just starting. 495 00:27:26,710 --> 00:27:29,850 Whoa, the fuzz. “The fuzz." I haven't heard that since the '60s. 496 00:27:29,910 --> 00:27:32,190 Everything old is new again. Kyle Mellors? 497 00:27:32,250 --> 00:27:34,490 [Door Opens] 498 00:27:34,550 --> 00:27:36,490 How can I help you gentlemen? 499 00:27:36,550 --> 00:27:39,930 Oh, hey, man we need to ask you a few questions about Stefan Anders. 500 00:27:39,990 --> 00:27:42,400 Don't know the man. You raised money for him. 501 00:27:42,460 --> 00:27:44,560 Well, I give money to the ASPCA too, 502 00:27:44,630 --> 00:27:48,040 but it doesn't mean I'm on speaking terms with every mutt in the kennel. 503 00:27:48,100 --> 00:27:51,170 - So you don't know this “mutt,” Anders? - Nope. Never met him. 504 00:27:51,230 --> 00:27:55,700 - But you like the things he stands for? - My customers like the things he stands for. 505 00:27:55,770 --> 00:27:58,340 Look, Detectives, I'm a record producer. 506 00:27:58,410 --> 00:28:00,890 You know, controversy sells records. 507 00:28:00,940 --> 00:28:04,220 And Stefan Anders is controversial? You bet. 508 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,690 And now he's been arrested for murder, my Web site hits are through the roof. 509 00:28:07,750 --> 00:28:10,160 You know, we're gonna ride this guy all the way to the end. 510 00:28:10,220 --> 00:28:13,630 Hope he gets the death penalty. We can retire. "No Surrender”? 511 00:28:13,690 --> 00:28:16,730 That's their debut album. You produce this garbage? 512 00:28:16,790 --> 00:28:20,530 - Well, that one's a little extreme. - How about this one? 513 00:28:20,590 --> 00:28:23,910 That's our biggest seller, “New Glory.“ 514 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,740 Will you sign it for us? 515 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,540 - Who should I make it out to? - “New York's finest." 516 00:28:35,810 --> 00:28:38,620 Heritage Records is one of the biggest neo-Nazi record labels. 517 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:43,060 I read your books. Kyle Mellors doesn't exactly seem to fit the profile. 518 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,720 You know, I thought neo-Nazis shaved their heads. 519 00:28:45,790 --> 00:28:48,730 Work boots, tattoos. That's the old profile. 520 00:28:48,790 --> 00:28:50,740 They're learning how to mainstream. 521 00:28:50,790 --> 00:28:53,930 They finally realized the more they blend in, the more effective they'll be. 522 00:28:53,990 --> 00:28:56,300 C.D.'s, Web sites, video games... 523 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,810 The movement's discovered a variety of ways to disseminate the message. 524 00:28:59,870 --> 00:29:02,850 This generates millions of dollars in revenue annually. 525 00:29:02,900 --> 00:29:06,650 Where does the money go? To fund various causes and activities. 526 00:29:06,710 --> 00:29:09,750 Their ultimate goal is the creation of a white Christian nation... 527 00:29:09,810 --> 00:29:12,090 cleansed of minorities. 528 00:29:12,150 --> 00:29:14,680 That's insane. Yeah, they want to destroy our government, 529 00:29:14,750 --> 00:29:17,660 our Constitution, the very system of justice that protects them. 530 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,030 They're terrorists. Absolutely. 531 00:29:20,090 --> 00:29:23,430 Oklahoma City has been eclipsed by the events of 9/11. 532 00:29:23,490 --> 00:29:26,030 But these American terrorists are still out there, 533 00:29:26,090 --> 00:29:28,130 and we can't necessarily tell who they are. 534 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,800 Mellors seems to have had a normal suburban childhood. 535 00:29:30,860 --> 00:29:33,870 His dad's a doctor. Mom works in an office. 536 00:29:33,930 --> 00:29:38,210 But here's something interesting: He's been to Germany every summer the last four years. 537 00:29:38,270 --> 00:29:41,810 Back to the source. A right-wing nationalist music festival. 538 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,620 He promotes his bands, smuggles his C.D.'s into Germany. 539 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,420 He sells them on the black market. They're illegal there. 540 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,720 Gets to rub elbows with neo-Nazis from all over the world. 541 00:29:50,780 --> 00:29:53,260 That must give him a charge. He may also feel diminished... 542 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,820 by the hardcore kids in comparison. 543 00:29:55,890 --> 00:29:59,930 A middle-class boy like Mellors probably has no experience with actual violence. 544 00:29:59,990 --> 00:30:02,500 So up to this point, it's all been vicarious. 545 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,770 So, maybe he wants a taste of the real thing. 546 00:30:04,830 --> 00:30:06,940 [Phone Ringing] Excuse me. 547 00:30:10,370 --> 00:30:12,370 Southerlyn. 548 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,020 Pick him up. 549 00:30:21,350 --> 00:30:23,790 Back again? Yeah. Remember the C.D. you laid on us? 550 00:30:23,850 --> 00:30:25,800 Oh, you like it? Oh, we loved it. 551 00:30:25,850 --> 00:30:28,920 Especially the part where your fingerprints match some prints we found at the crime scene. 552 00:30:28,990 --> 00:30:31,730 You're under arrest for the murder of Leah Glaser. Call Graham Wilson. 553 00:30:31,790 --> 00:30:34,200 You have the right to remain silent, which I highly recommend. 554 00:30:34,260 --> 00:30:36,470 You have the right to an attorney [Continues, Indistinct] 555 00:30:36,530 --> 00:30:39,880 You're going down Mr. Mellors, and your hero's going with you. 556 00:30:39,930 --> 00:30:41,970 What if it was an accident? 557 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,280 If someone went there to talk to her, not to kill her, 558 00:30:45,340 --> 00:30:48,840 and events transpired in a certain tragic, unforeseen way, 559 00:30:48,910 --> 00:30:50,860 wouldn't that be manslaughter? 560 00:30:50,910 --> 00:30:53,760 We know that Leah Glaser didn't die accidentally. 561 00:30:53,810 --> 00:30:57,320 After her killer knocked her down and cracked her skull, he smothered her. 562 00:30:57,380 --> 00:31:01,730 [McCoy] I won't entertain anything less than murder one for Mr. Anders. 563 00:31:01,790 --> 00:31:04,530 Your client, on the other hand, can still plead to murder two as a hate crime. 564 00:31:04,590 --> 00:31:07,540 As a hate crime? What the hell does that mean? 565 00:31:07,590 --> 00:31:10,040 Adds five years to your sentence. 566 00:31:10,100 --> 00:31:12,580 [McCoy] Twenty to life, Mr. Mellors. That's as good as it gets. 567 00:31:12,630 --> 00:31:17,380 Tell us what transpired between you and Mr. Anders, and you may not spend the rest of your life in prison. 568 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,510 I keep telling you... Mr. Anders had nothing to do with this. 569 00:31:23,610 --> 00:31:25,850 How would you know if you weren't there? 570 00:31:27,580 --> 00:31:32,220 Just as I thought. We're trying you both for murder in the first degree. 571 00:31:32,290 --> 00:31:34,230 Together. 572 00:31:37,460 --> 00:31:41,170 Mellors can bob and weave as much as he wants. I have no doubt of his guilt. 573 00:31:41,230 --> 00:31:43,710 You're still on the fence about Anders? 574 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,910 I want to be sure I'm trying Anders for the crimes he committed in this century, 575 00:31:47,970 --> 00:31:50,210 not the ones he committed in the past. 576 00:31:50,270 --> 00:31:54,410 Some of the strongest cases we've tried have been based on circumstantial evidence. 577 00:31:54,470 --> 00:31:56,720 Despite his protestations to the contrary, 578 00:31:56,780 --> 00:31:59,780 Anders stood to substantially gain from her death. 579 00:31:59,850 --> 00:32:01,830 His D.N.A. was at the crime scene, 580 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:06,730 and he had the locket that she wore around her neck every day of her life in his possession. 581 00:32:06,790 --> 00:32:11,930 I mean, except for a videotape of the crime, I can't think of what more you could want. 582 00:32:11,990 --> 00:32:16,130 Mellors keeps claiming that Anders wasn't involved. 583 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,180 Well, let him take the stand and tell that to the jury. 584 00:32:19,230 --> 00:32:21,180 I don't think he'll be taking the stand. 585 00:32:21,230 --> 00:32:24,010 We'd bury him with all this neo-Nazi stuff. 586 00:32:24,070 --> 00:32:26,780 No, I don't suppose he would. 587 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,650 Which means that Anders just about has to. 588 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,800 We analyzed a set of bilateral thumbprints... 589 00:32:37,850 --> 00:32:40,700 and two full sets of fingerprints found on the frame... 590 00:32:40,750 --> 00:32:42,830 surrounding Mrs. Glaser's door. 591 00:32:42,890 --> 00:32:47,600 - Did you identify these fingerprints? - Yes. They belong to the defendant, Kyle Mellors. 592 00:32:47,660 --> 00:32:51,400 Did you find any other fingerprints belonging to Mr. Mellors? 593 00:32:51,470 --> 00:32:55,410 Yes. On Mrs. Glaser's locket, we found a thumb and forefinger. 594 00:32:55,470 --> 00:32:57,970 What about the co-defendant, Stefan Anders? 595 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,450 His prints were also found on Mrs. Glaser's locket What about at the crime scene? 596 00:33:01,510 --> 00:33:05,550 No prints. However, the Latent unit did find two sweat smudges... 597 00:33:05,610 --> 00:33:08,020 one on the doorknob and one on the door... 598 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,760 about five feet, eight inches from the floor. 599 00:33:10,820 --> 00:33:14,420 - Were you able to make a positive I.D.? - They belong to the defendant, Stefan Anders. 600 00:33:14,490 --> 00:33:18,960 And your conclusion about how these smudge came to be on Mrs. Glaser's door? 601 00:33:19,030 --> 00:33:21,100 The height of the defendant indicates... 602 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,370 he gripped the doorknob and leaned his forehead against the door. 603 00:33:26,670 --> 00:33:29,980 No questions of this witness, Your Honor. 604 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,480 Did you find traces of my client... 605 00:33:32,540 --> 00:33:35,450 anywhere inside Mrs. Glaser's apartment? 606 00:33:35,510 --> 00:33:37,180 None. 607 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,190 So, your analysis puts my client at her door, 608 00:33:40,250 --> 00:33:42,190 but not inside her apartment? 609 00:33:42,250 --> 00:33:44,660 Yes. 610 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,760 Now, scientifically, you can't determine... 611 00:33:46,820 --> 00:33:51,570 whether the D.N.A. sample and the various prints were left at the same time, can you? 612 00:33:51,630 --> 00:33:53,330 No. 613 00:33:53,390 --> 00:33:56,810 So, for all you know, my client, Stefan Anders, 614 00:33:56,860 --> 00:34:00,040 was there one day outside the apartment door... 615 00:34:00,100 --> 00:34:03,740 and Mr. Mellors on another day entirely... 616 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,880 outside and inside the apartment? 617 00:34:06,940 --> 00:34:08,980 That's certainly possible, yes. 618 00:34:11,140 --> 00:34:13,150 No further questions. 619 00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:23,260 As the co-owner of Heritage Records with Mr. Mellors, what is your mission statement? 620 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,960 To make money. No ideology? 621 00:34:26,030 --> 00:34:28,840 Capitalism. Capitalism is our ideology. 622 00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:31,600 Are you a Nazi, neo-Nazi, fascist? 623 00:34:31,670 --> 00:34:35,240 I've been called all those things, but what I am is an independent entrepreneur. 624 00:34:35,300 --> 00:34:37,250 Is Mr. Mellors a neo-Nazi? 625 00:34:37,300 --> 00:34:39,280 Objection! If Mr. Mellors... 626 00:34:39,340 --> 00:34:41,910 wants to speak to his political beliefs, 627 00:34:41,980 --> 00:34:43,920 let him take the stand. 628 00:34:43,980 --> 00:34:47,520 - Sustained. - Some of your bands espouse rather radical views. 629 00:34:47,580 --> 00:34:50,060 That's their right under the First Amendment. 630 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,460 Do you share their views? I believe in what sells. 631 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,470 Look, it's just music. 632 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,520 It's loud, it's extreme, it's rebellious, 633 00:34:57,590 --> 00:35:00,800 it's in-your-face, and it drives their parents crazy. 634 00:35:00,860 --> 00:35:04,810 That's why the kids like it. That's what it's all about. 635 00:35:04,870 --> 00:35:06,870 It's just music? 636 00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:11,510 “Kill all the niggers, 637 00:35:11,570 --> 00:35:13,880 “kill all the Jews, 638 00:35:13,940 --> 00:35:17,110 fire up the ovens, there's no time to lose." 639 00:35:17,180 --> 00:35:20,180 - Do you recognize these lyrics? - I can't say that I do. 640 00:35:20,250 --> 00:35:24,250 They're from an album you produced with Kyle Mellors. 641 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,660 The group is called American Reichstag. 642 00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:30,790 Do you think every black record exec who produces a gangster rap track... 643 00:35:30,860 --> 00:35:33,200 thinks we should kill cops or, uh, 644 00:35:33,260 --> 00:35:35,740 beat those ho's and bitches? 645 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,640 - It's about selling records. - Critics call it “hate rock." 646 00:35:39,700 --> 00:35:42,240 Your own Web site calls it “hate core." 647 00:35:42,300 --> 00:35:46,150 People who buy it also call it "heritage music. ” 648 00:35:46,210 --> 00:35:50,420 It's music. Don't we still have freedom of speech in this country? 649 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,460 The First Amendment isn't absolute. 650 00:35:52,510 --> 00:35:56,960 If your speech incites and results in violence, it's not protected. 651 00:35:57,020 --> 00:36:00,020 Isn't that what you're doing? Inciting people to kill? No. 652 00:36:00,090 --> 00:36:02,430 We're inciting people to buy records. 653 00:36:02,490 --> 00:36:04,990 “Kill all the blacks. 654 00:36:05,060 --> 00:36:08,300 Kill all the Jews." 655 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,140 If one of your songs results in someone's death, 656 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,180 aren't you culpable? I don't see it that way. 657 00:36:15,470 --> 00:36:17,810 Right. You're just putting money... 658 00:36:17,870 --> 00:36:19,980 in the pockets of people who advocate... 659 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,650 the extermination of other human beings. 660 00:36:25,610 --> 00:36:27,920 I went to her apartment. 661 00:36:27,980 --> 00:36:30,550 Not the day of the murder... another day. 662 00:36:32,690 --> 00:36:36,030 I thought if she looked in my eyes, 663 00:36:36,090 --> 00:36:39,560 she would see I am not the man she thought I was. 664 00:36:39,630 --> 00:36:42,660 Did you see her? She wouldn't open the door, so I spoke to her... 665 00:36:42,730 --> 00:36:45,680 for a few minutes from the hall, 666 00:36:45,730 --> 00:36:48,410 and she asked me to leave and I left. 667 00:36:48,470 --> 00:36:51,920 And Leah Glaser was still alive. Of course. 668 00:36:51,970 --> 00:36:54,680 You were a guard at Bobrek. 669 00:36:56,310 --> 00:37:00,520 I was a soldier. I went where I was ordered to go. 670 00:37:00,580 --> 00:37:02,690 Did you ever kill anyone? 671 00:37:02,750 --> 00:37:06,200 In combat? Probably. 672 00:37:06,250 --> 00:37:08,820 But at the camp? No. Definitely no. 673 00:37:08,890 --> 00:37:12,230 Did you know the deceased, Leah Glaser? No. 674 00:37:12,290 --> 00:37:14,700 Did you remember her at all from the camp? 675 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,040 It was 60 years ago. 676 00:37:17,100 --> 00:37:20,080 There were hundreds of prisoners. I don't remember them. 677 00:37:20,130 --> 00:37:22,040 She remembered you. 678 00:37:22,100 --> 00:37:24,240 She saw me every day... 679 00:37:24,300 --> 00:37:26,250 every morning, every evening. 680 00:37:26,310 --> 00:37:28,680 She saw my photograph; she recognized me. 681 00:37:28,740 --> 00:37:32,590 She remembered me from the camp, okay, but she was confused. 682 00:37:32,650 --> 00:37:36,860 She has me confused with someone else, another guard 683 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:41,370 I didn't kill anyone in the camp, and I didn't kill her. I had no reason to. 684 00:37:41,420 --> 00:37:45,100 Her death is the worst thing that could have happened to me. 685 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:49,000 Whatever happens here, now I will be deported. 686 00:37:49,060 --> 00:37:52,200 Because someone killed her. 687 00:37:52,270 --> 00:37:54,640 Someone. 688 00:37:54,700 --> 00:37:57,110 Not me. 689 00:37:57,170 --> 00:37:59,910 [Jensen] Your witness. 690 00:38:01,240 --> 00:38:04,480 You weren't the guard Leah Glaser remembered from the camp? 691 00:38:04,540 --> 00:38:08,320 - The one she saw kill six prisoners? - No. 692 00:38:10,580 --> 00:38:14,430 I have no further questions for this witness at this time, Your Honor. 693 00:38:14,490 --> 00:38:17,800 I reserve the right to continue my cross-examination. 694 00:38:17,860 --> 00:38:21,270 - Mr. Jensen? - In that case, Your Honor, 695 00:38:21,330 --> 00:38:23,330 the defendant, Anders, rests. 696 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,780 Mr. Wilson? Yes, Your Honor. The defendant, Mellors, rests. 697 00:38:27,970 --> 00:38:30,350 The witness may step down. 698 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:36,450 Your Honor, I would like to call a rebuttal witness. Leah Glaser. 699 00:38:36,510 --> 00:38:39,680 Your Honor, I would like to renew my application... 700 00:38:39,750 --> 00:38:43,420 to exclude this videotaped testimony as highly prejudicial. 701 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,460 Her Shoah testimony directly refutes... 702 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,330 what Mr. Anders just testified to under oath. 703 00:38:48,390 --> 00:38:50,770 Your Honor, it's hearsay, it's prejudicial. 704 00:38:50,820 --> 00:38:52,960 There's obviously no opportunity to cross-examine. 705 00:38:53,030 --> 00:38:56,670 Mr. Jensen had ample opportunity to cross-examine Leah Glaser... 706 00:38:56,730 --> 00:38:59,110 when he deposed her on this very subject. 707 00:38:59,170 --> 00:39:03,270 Counsel can read the relevant portions of that proceeding into the record. 708 00:39:03,340 --> 00:39:06,010 Your Honor, this is not fair! 709 00:39:06,070 --> 00:39:09,820 The emotional impact of seeing the deceased's videotaped testimony... 710 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,220 will far outweigh a dry reading of a deposition. 711 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,760 I'll review your memos once more. 712 00:39:15,820 --> 00:39:18,960 Court will stand at recess until 2:00. 713 00:39:25,660 --> 00:39:29,700 The guards would walk us to and from the factory each day 714 00:39:31,330 --> 00:39:33,280 Some of them, 715 00:39:33,330 --> 00:39:36,340 if we did not walk quickly, 716 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,350 they would beat us. 717 00:39:38,410 --> 00:39:42,380 The one in charge, he was different. 718 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,250 “Bitte, bitte," he would always say, "Please. ” 719 00:39:46,350 --> 00:39:48,690 He was polite. 720 00:39:48,750 --> 00:39:50,890 Always polite. 721 00:39:50,950 --> 00:39:53,830 Beautiful manners, elegant, 722 00:39:53,890 --> 00:39:56,890 but cold... cold as ice. 723 00:39:58,090 --> 00:40:00,160 Not human. 724 00:40:00,230 --> 00:40:03,670 His name was Anders, I think. 725 00:40:03,730 --> 00:40:08,580 One day, one of the prisoners fell and couldn't get up. 726 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,670 He came over. "Bitte, bitte, "I heard him say. 727 00:40:12,740 --> 00:40:15,550 “Get up, please." 728 00:40:18,180 --> 00:40:21,650 She couldn't get up, 729 00:40:24,020 --> 00:40:26,860 so he shot her... 730 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,900 in the face. 731 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,430 And then he shot five other women, 732 00:40:33,490 --> 00:40:36,060 the ones who cried. 733 00:40:36,130 --> 00:40:39,980 One, two, three, four, five. 734 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,610 Like it was nothing. 735 00:40:47,870 --> 00:40:51,720 And then he looked at the rest of us and said, "Bitte, bitte," 736 00:40:51,780 --> 00:40:55,090 and we went to work like nothing happened. 737 00:40:57,150 --> 00:41:00,390 The fifth one he shot, number five, 738 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,570 was my sister Rebekkah, 739 00:41:10,330 --> 00:41:12,810 my little sister. 740 00:41:14,430 --> 00:41:16,410 [Sobs] 741 00:41:17,940 --> 00:41:19,920 Why? 742 00:41:31,580 --> 00:41:33,960 [Judge Karan] Have you reached a verdict? We have. 743 00:41:34,020 --> 00:41:36,260 As to the defendant Kyle Mellors, 744 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,790 on the first count of the indictment, murder in the first degree, how do you find? 745 00:41:39,860 --> 00:41:44,040 We find the defendant, Kyle Mellors, guilty 746 00:41:44,100 --> 00:41:46,170 As to the defendant Stefan Anders, 747 00:41:46,230 --> 00:41:49,300 on the first count of the indictment, murder in the first degree, 748 00:41:49,370 --> 00:41:54,050 how do you find? We find the defendant, Stefan Anders, guilty. 749 00:42:14,430 --> 00:42:16,740 Think Anders is telling the truth, 750 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,180 that he didn't have anything to do with Leah Glaser's murder? 751 00:42:20,230 --> 00:42:22,870 They knew a guilty man when they saw one. 752 00:43:11,720 --> 00:43:14,670 [Howling] 66673

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