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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,070 --> 00:00:11,810 the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups- 2 00:00:11,870 --> 00:00:13,880 the police, who investigate crime, 3 00:00:13,940 --> 00:00:16,510 and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. 4 00:00:16,580 --> 00:00:18,460 These are their stories. 5 00:00:18,510 --> 00:00:22,260 How many times have I told you, put it where you can find it? 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,260 What are pockets for? 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,320 Now I'm not sure if I had them with me. Yeah, you had it. 8 00:00:27,390 --> 00:00:31,240 Ah, Mom, it stinks in here! Of course it stinks. It's garbage. Now dig. 9 00:00:31,290 --> 00:00:35,330 I'm so over curry! You're gonna be grounded for life if it's up to your father. 10 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,900 You know how he hates it when you lose things. 11 00:00:37,970 --> 00:00:40,470 Hey, Mom, look at this. 12 00:00:40,540 --> 00:00:43,810 Oh, my God! That's a hand. Okay, just drop it, drop it! Now! 13 00:00:43,870 --> 00:00:46,790 Eww! Come on! 14 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,050 He was looking for his what? His braces. 15 00:00:49,110 --> 00:00:51,320 They're plastic nowadays, removable. 16 00:00:51,380 --> 00:00:53,330 He find them? Not yet. 17 00:00:53,380 --> 00:00:56,630 He did, however, find a hand. Just one? They usually come in pairs. 18 00:00:56,690 --> 00:01:01,230 Hey, the restaurant said that they put their garbage out at 10:00 last night right after they closed. 19 00:01:01,290 --> 00:01:04,430 It was supposed to be picked up this morning, but the carting company didn't show up. 20 00:01:04,490 --> 00:01:08,500 So the hand could've been dumped on the pile anytime in the last 22 hours. 21 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,600 Detectives? Found this in a Dumpster on Fourth Street 22 00:01:11,670 --> 00:01:15,670 Oh, God! don't tell me. I'm guessing those two belong to each other. 23 00:01:15,740 --> 00:01:17,680 Look, I need you to get some help. 24 00:01:17,740 --> 00:01:21,080 I want you to check every trash can, Dumpster and garbage bag between First and Second Avenue, 25 00:01:21,140 --> 00:01:23,090 from Houston to St. Mark's. 26 00:01:23,150 --> 00:01:25,560 You kidding me? Do I look like I'm kidding? 27 00:01:25,610 --> 00:01:27,560 [Siren Wailing] 28 00:02:14,660 --> 00:02:17,840 We're looking at an African-American or Latino male, 29 00:02:17,900 --> 00:02:20,740 about 50, 5'9" to 5'11", 30 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,310 190 to 200 pounds. 31 00:02:23,370 --> 00:02:27,910 Dismembered postmortem. Amputation was done using a very sharp utensil. 32 00:02:27,980 --> 00:02:30,620 Blood was drained before the body parts were wrapped. 33 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,250 Sounds like a neat freak. Yeah, meticulous, to say the least. 34 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,130 Cause of death? No head, no heart, no way to tell. 35 00:02:36,180 --> 00:02:38,190 Time of death? 36 00:02:38,250 --> 00:02:42,760 Given the cold weather, I'd say roughly 24 hours before the first pieces were found. 37 00:02:42,820 --> 00:02:47,430 Absence of rodent feeding makes me think they were in the garbage no more than a couple of hours. 38 00:02:47,500 --> 00:02:49,570 The victim had arthritis. 39 00:02:49,630 --> 00:02:52,130 Both knees had arthroscopic surgery. 40 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,770 And I'm betting he used a cane. 41 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,840 Palm of his right hand is callused. 42 00:02:56,910 --> 00:02:59,410 Dr. Rodgers,you brought your A-game today. 43 00:02:59,470 --> 00:03:02,650 You got a home address for us too? No, but smell his hand. 44 00:03:03,780 --> 00:03:06,620 Menthol. Mentholated propylene glycol. 45 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,630 Propa-what? 46 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,860 It's hand sanitizer. 47 00:03:10,920 --> 00:03:13,530 There's a mentholated version for people with arthritis. 48 00:03:13,590 --> 00:03:16,900 He used some shortly before his death. 49 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:21,460 Here we have the contents of the garbage bag from Sixth Street, where the first hand was found. 50 00:03:21,530 --> 00:03:25,540 That's from the Fourth Street Dumpster, the Fifth Street garbage... 51 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,950 and the garbage can from St. Mark's Place and Second Avenue, 52 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,510 which covers everything we've found so far. 53 00:03:31,570 --> 00:03:36,520 And? The people from St. Mark's Place eat too much Thai takeout. 54 00:03:36,580 --> 00:03:38,680 Okay. You're not in the mood. 55 00:03:38,750 --> 00:03:42,590 The bags that held body parts were all one brand... Tough Boy, five gallon. 56 00:03:42,650 --> 00:03:44,600 Not one of your major brands, 57 00:03:44,650 --> 00:03:47,900 but one other Tough Boy bag was found in the Fourth Street Dumpster, 58 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,770 full of nothing but ordinary household garbage. 59 00:03:50,830 --> 00:03:53,170 But it could be the victim's or the killer's. 60 00:03:53,230 --> 00:03:56,230 Or some third party who just happened to use the same brand trash bag. 61 00:03:56,300 --> 00:03:59,710 You get any usable prints? Nope. Just smears. 62 00:03:59,770 --> 00:04:02,680 Runner's Digest. Our guy used a cane. 63 00:04:02,740 --> 00:04:06,580 Anybody can dream. Somebody cut out page 35. 64 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,920 And somebody liked fruit, a lot. 65 00:04:08,980 --> 00:04:11,980 I like fruit. Yeah, but when you buy it, where do you go? 66 00:04:12,050 --> 00:04:14,790 Supermarket? Heaven forbid. Fruit stand. 67 00:04:14,850 --> 00:04:17,630 So if this is the victim's garbage... 68 00:04:17,690 --> 00:04:20,260 With his knees, he probably shopped close to home. 69 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,830 There's a whole lot of fruit stands in the East Village. 70 00:04:22,890 --> 00:04:26,300 What the hell. Maybe I can pick up a couple of Granny Smiths. 71 00:04:30,170 --> 00:04:34,670 Tell ya what-- more than once I thought about crackin ' that numbskull over the head with that friggin ' cane of his. 72 00:04:34,740 --> 00:04:36,680 What a pain in the culo. 73 00:04:36,740 --> 00:04:40,240 Guy gets one bad apple, tells me I should give him a dozen free. Hey, you know his name? 74 00:04:40,310 --> 00:04:42,650 He's a customer, not a bowling buddy. 75 00:04:42,710 --> 00:04:45,060 Why? Something happen to him? What makes you say that? 76 00:04:45,110 --> 00:04:48,860 - Wishful thinking. - Do you know where he lives? Ever deliver groceries to him? 77 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,400 This is not a full-service fruit stand, Detectives. Strictly cash and carry. 78 00:04:51,450 --> 00:04:53,520 Hey, is that hand sanitizer? 79 00:04:53,590 --> 00:04:56,690 Antibacterial. Flu season. I can't take a chance. 80 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,830 Won't help. The flu's a virus. 81 00:04:58,890 --> 00:05:01,340 I haven't had so much as a sniffle in two years. 82 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,900 It's like taking antibiotics for a cold. It's a scam. 83 00:05:03,970 --> 00:05:06,240 Aah! [Green] You sell this stuff'? 84 00:05:06,300 --> 00:05:08,580 - At Maxon's-Around-The-Corner. - Around the corner where? 85 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,380 That's the name of it. Maxon's-Around- The-Comer. 86 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,610 Sure. I know Roger. Why? 87 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,680 You know where we can find him? He lives in the nabe. Ay, in here all the time. 88 00:05:19,750 --> 00:05:22,920 He's like dandruff. You can't get rid of him. Roger have a last name? 89 00:05:22,980 --> 00:05:25,900 Obnoxious? Like it's my fault the price of coffee went up. 90 00:05:25,950 --> 00:05:29,830 Hey, does Roger Obnoxious ever pay with a credit card or a check? 91 00:05:29,890 --> 00:05:33,400 We don't take credit cards, and we definitely don't take checks from guys like Roger. 92 00:05:33,460 --> 00:05:35,840 Do you carry Runner's? Digest? 93 00:05:35,900 --> 00:05:39,240 Magazines are in the back by the pet food. How'd you know? 94 00:05:39,300 --> 00:05:42,680 - How'd he know what? - Roger bought a copy of Runner's Digest. 95 00:05:42,740 --> 00:05:44,720 Did you remember that 'cause Roger got bad knees? 96 00:05:44,770 --> 00:05:48,880 I remember that 'cause Roger never bought anything but skin mags. 97 00:05:48,940 --> 00:05:53,120 Okay we're looking for a crotchety 50-year-old black or Latino pain in the ass... 98 00:05:53,180 --> 00:05:57,360 who walks with a limp, uses a cane and likes to look at dirty pictures. 99 00:05:57,420 --> 00:05:59,730 And who's training for the marathon. Hmm? 100 00:05:59,790 --> 00:06:01,730 Page 35, the one that was cut out. 101 00:06:01,790 --> 00:06:04,630 Somehow I don't think this guy's a marathon man. What's on the other side? 102 00:06:06,130 --> 00:06:08,630 There you go. What, the ad? 103 00:06:08,700 --> 00:06:11,740 I don't think a guy with bad knees who complains about the price of coffee... 104 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,280 is gonna be looking at $300 running shoes. 105 00:06:14,340 --> 00:06:18,650 - Not the shoes. The dude in the shoes. - Now you're telling me he's got a crush on this guy? 106 00:06:18,710 --> 00:06:21,280 What about the girlie magazines? Maybe he swings both ways. 107 00:06:21,340 --> 00:06:25,350 Great. So now we're looking for a bisexual 50-year-old pain in the ass... 108 00:06:25,410 --> 00:06:30,420 who walks with a limp, carries a cane and whistles Dixie as he walks down the highway. 109 00:06:30,490 --> 00:06:33,400 His name's Roger Barry. Haven't seen him in 10 years. 110 00:06:33,460 --> 00:06:36,030 And you're right. He's not a runner. He's a boxer. 111 00:06:36,090 --> 00:06:38,590 Oh, yeah? What name did he fight under? Dad. 112 00:06:38,660 --> 00:06:41,470 Daddy dearest. The old man. Roger's your father. 113 00:06:41,530 --> 00:06:44,880 My mom finally got tired of being his punching bag and split, took me with her. 114 00:06:44,930 --> 00:06:46,940 Haven't seen him since. 115 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:51,010 If you haven't been in touch with him all these years, how'd he find out about your picture in the magazine? 116 00:06:51,070 --> 00:06:54,320 Called me up out of the blue. Said he wanted to know how I turned out. 117 00:06:54,380 --> 00:06:57,790 So I told him about the ad. Let him eat his heart out for a change. 118 00:06:57,850 --> 00:07:00,190 [ Green ] You got an address for your father? 119 00:07:00,250 --> 00:07:03,350 That much forgive and forget I was definitely not interested in. 120 00:07:03,420 --> 00:07:06,830 - What's this all about? He in trouble? - We're just trying to find him, that's all. 121 00:07:06,890 --> 00:07:08,990 Sorry. You got a phone number? 122 00:07:09,060 --> 00:07:11,560 Told me he didn't have one. Must've called me from a pay phone. 123 00:07:11,630 --> 00:07:14,330 What’d your dad do after he hung up the gloves? 124 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,640 Longshoreman. 125 00:07:16,700 --> 00:07:18,640 Thanks. 126 00:07:18,700 --> 00:07:22,200 The union must‘ve had to send his pension checks someplace. 127 00:07:25,370 --> 00:07:28,550 Mr. Barry won’t like this. Course he don’t like much of anything. 128 00:07:28,610 --> 00:07:32,790 Don't you need a warrant? We would if we suspected Mr. Barry of wrongdoing. 129 00:07:32,850 --> 00:07:35,160 Well, he still won't like it. [Briscoe] Hey, Ed. 130 00:07:35,220 --> 00:07:37,220 Yeah. 131 00:07:39,250 --> 00:07:41,830 Does this look like blood to you? 132 00:07:41,890 --> 00:07:44,340 Yep. I'm calling C.S.U. 133 00:07:44,390 --> 00:07:46,900 Something happen to that rat bastard in my building? 134 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,910 Uh, it's a little too soon to tell. 135 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,210 Somethin‘ happen to him, I know some people who are gonna start celebratin‘. 136 00:07:52,270 --> 00:07:56,040 Well, good. And you're gonna give me their names, aren't you? Yeah, apartment 2 E. 137 00:07:56,100 --> 00:08:00,080 just go downstairs and read the buzzers. Whole building complained about him. 138 00:08:00,140 --> 00:08:02,990 C.S.U.'s on their way Who complained the loudest? 139 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:07,520 Manny Esperanza down the hall Said Mr. Barry was stealin' his newspapers. 140 00:08:07,580 --> 00:08:09,760 Oh, yeah? Where can we find this guy? 141 00:08:09,820 --> 00:08:12,560 St.jude‘s Hospital. He's an orderly. 142 00:08:12,620 --> 00:08:15,690 That would give him access to things that go cut in the night. 143 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,360 I don't know what happened to Mr. Barry 144 00:08:18,430 --> 00:08:21,430 I'm a medical professional. You and Dr. Kevorkian. 145 00:08:21,500 --> 00:08:24,070 He don't work here. Look, look, I'm on triple shifts. 146 00:08:24,130 --> 00:08:27,140 I ain't even been home for the last three days. Talk to my supervisor. 147 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:31,410 Oh, don't worry. We will. Why you bustin‘ my chops? Everybody in the building hated his guts. 148 00:08:31,470 --> 00:08:34,350 Ask his girlfriend. She's gonna say that everybody hated him? 149 00:08:34,410 --> 00:08:37,220 She'll tell you the thing with the newspapers? He started it. 150 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,280 Course she's deaf. She couldn't hear what kind of nonsense was coming out of his big mouth. 151 00:08:41,350 --> 00:08:43,450 What an unpleasant personality. 152 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,020 This girlfriend have a name? Jennifer something. 153 00:08:46,090 --> 00:08:50,090 - Okay, do you know where she lives? - Across the hall from him. 154 00:08:51,490 --> 00:08:54,630 Don't you need probable cause for a warrant? Oh, you're a judge now? 155 00:08:54,700 --> 00:08:56,700 I'm just sayin‘. 156 00:08:57,700 --> 00:09:00,510 Sorry, Irv. This is where you get off. 157 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,710 [Green] Got a yearbook here. Cedar Hill Academy. 158 00:09:04,770 --> 00:09:07,750 Shelby, Shelby. Here she is. 159 00:09:07,810 --> 00:09:10,810 Jennifer Shelby. Well, her back in high school anyway. 160 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,020 She graduated from Cedar Hill, class of '79. 161 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,430 Fancy girls' school to a crappy one-room apartment. 162 00:09:17,490 --> 00:09:19,990 Maybe we should pay Cedar Hill a visit. 163 00:09:20,060 --> 00:09:23,230 I think they’re on the Upper East Side. Hey, Ed. 164 00:09:26,690 --> 00:09:29,570 Whoa. You can do some serious damage with that bad boy. 165 00:09:29,630 --> 00:09:32,310 Yeah, like take somebody apart joint by joint. 166 00:09:32,370 --> 00:09:34,810 Looks pretty clean. Now, wait a minute. 167 00:09:34,870 --> 00:09:37,480 There's a little residue here at the handle. 168 00:09:37,540 --> 00:09:40,420 Man, C.S.U. gonna get sick of comin' to this building. 169 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,480 [Phone Beeping] 170 00:09:43,980 --> 00:09:45,920 [Bell Ringing] I don't know her personally. 171 00:09:45,980 --> 00:09:49,330 Jennifer hasn't been to any events since I've been alumni director at Cedar Hill. 172 00:09:49,380 --> 00:09:52,560 Is that because she's deaf? Whatever gave you that idea? 173 00:09:52,620 --> 00:09:55,790 In fact, I spoke to her on the phone just last month about the annual fund. 174 00:09:55,860 --> 00:09:57,800 Annual fund? Wait a minute. 175 00:09:57,860 --> 00:10:01,710 The Jennifer Shelby that we're lookin' for lives in a six-story walk-up on East Fourth Street. 176 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,800 Are you sure you have the right Jennifer Shelby? You know what? You tell us. 177 00:10:07,100 --> 00:10:11,020 This Jennifer... our Jennifer... lives on 63rd and Park. 178 00:10:11,070 --> 00:10:13,380 She's married to Ross Teller. 179 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,980 The real estate mogul? That's right. 180 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,550 What's this all about? Are you talking to every Jennifer Shelby in New York City? 181 00:10:19,610 --> 00:10:21,560 How many of us can there be? 182 00:10:21,620 --> 00:10:26,400 This Jennifer Shelby had a copy of the Cedar Hill Academy yearbook, 1979. 183 00:10:26,450 --> 00:10:30,130 You mean she's impersonating me, and her name really isn't Jennifer Shelby? 184 00:10:30,190 --> 00:10:33,930 That's what it looks like. How the hell did she get a copy of the yearbook? 185 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,910 People clean out their closets, put things on the street. 186 00:10:36,970 --> 00:10:41,640 What did this person do anyway? She's a suspect in a murder investigation. 187 00:10:43,270 --> 00:10:45,720 Evan Barry gave us D.N.A. 188 00:10:45,770 --> 00:10:48,280 The dismembered body is his father, Roger Barry. 189 00:10:48,340 --> 00:10:50,850 The blood that we found in Roger Barry's bathtub drain... 190 00:10:50,910 --> 00:10:53,920 matches the blood on the knife that we found in the fake Jennifer Shelby's apartment. 191 00:10:53,980 --> 00:10:55,930 All that blood belongs to? Roger Barry. 192 00:10:55,980 --> 00:10:59,160 We know where he got cut up and what he got cut up with. And the real Jennifer Shelby? 193 00:10:59,220 --> 00:11:02,220 She's as baffled as we are She has no idea who this other woman is. 194 00:11:02,290 --> 00:11:05,460 We got plainclothes officers sittin' on the apartment just in case she returns. 195 00:11:05,530 --> 00:11:08,530 Whoever she is, she had to pay the rent. 196 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,410 I only met her once, when she came in to sign the lease. 197 00:11:15,470 --> 00:11:19,420 Roger Barry referred her. God, I can't believe he's dead. Shocking! 198 00:11:19,470 --> 00:11:21,750 Did she put down a security deposit? 199 00:11:21,810 --> 00:11:24,650 Yeah, first and last months Cash. I remember that. 200 00:11:24,710 --> 00:11:26,850 Nice, crisp, new hundred-dollar bills. 201 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,620 How did she pay the rent every month? Money order. 202 00:11:29,680 --> 00:11:32,260 Uh, we need copies. Not a problem. 203 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:36,170 [Sighs] I hope she's not in trouble. Hey, she's the perfect tenant. 204 00:11:36,220 --> 00:11:39,140 Never complains. Not a peep out of her. 205 00:11:39,190 --> 00:11:41,770 Funny. Just get us the money orders. 206 00:11:41,830 --> 00:11:45,400 Sure, I sold these. Jennifer Shelby. 207 00:11:45,470 --> 00:11:49,570 Yeah, late 30s, early 40s, thin, brown hair, deaf. 208 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,580 Oh, the deaf lady. Sure. 209 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,640 You seen her lately? About once a month. 210 00:11:53,710 --> 00:11:56,350 Comes in here, buys one for rent, one for Con Ed. 211 00:11:56,410 --> 00:12:00,120 I ain't seen her since last month. Sorry. All right, man. Thanks. 212 00:12:00,180 --> 00:12:03,590 Hey, wait. My friend Jaime told me he seen her at a meeting. 213 00:12:03,650 --> 00:12:06,500 What kind of meeting? You know, not A.A. 214 00:12:06,550 --> 00:12:09,560 What's the other one, for drugs? N.A. Narcotics Anonymous. 215 00:12:09,620 --> 00:12:14,070 Yeah, that's it. At the church. St. Alphonsus Liguri. Fourth and "A". 216 00:12:14,130 --> 00:12:16,070 All right. 217 00:12:16,130 --> 00:12:19,130 You know we're not allowed to talk about who's here and what goes on. 218 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,370 As far as last names go... Believe me, I know the drill. 219 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,440 You a friend of Bill's? Yup, for many years. 220 00:12:25,510 --> 00:12:27,510 Then you know my hands are tied. 221 00:12:27,580 --> 00:12:30,080 They're gonna be in handcuffs in a minute if you don't start talking. 222 00:12:30,140 --> 00:12:33,790 This woman's wanted for questioning in a murder. Jennifer Shelby? A murder? 223 00:12:33,850 --> 00:12:35,790 Are we gettin‘ through to you now, Marty? 224 00:12:35,850 --> 00:12:39,590 She's been at a bunch of meetings She's a nice girl, far as I can tell. 225 00:12:39,650 --> 00:12:41,900 She's deaf. How‘d she participate? 226 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,700 Well, she reads lips. Somehow she manages. 227 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,600 We offered to get her an interpreter, but she wasn't interested. 228 00:12:47,660 --> 00:12:50,840 When was the last time she was here? Last week. 229 00:12:50,900 --> 00:12:55,070 By the way, Mr. Narcotics Anonymous, how come you know her last name? 230 00:12:55,140 --> 00:12:57,310 She was handing out these flyers. 231 00:12:57,370 --> 00:13:01,050 She's got a painting hanging in this gallery show down the street. 232 00:13:04,310 --> 00:13:06,260 She never gave me a contact number. Sorry 233 00:13:06,310 --> 00:13:08,320 What if you sold one of her paintings? 234 00:13:08,380 --> 00:13:11,090 I hold the money for her till she gets in touch with me. 235 00:13:11,150 --> 00:13:14,400 That's Jenny's. It's a lot like her. 236 00:13:14,460 --> 00:13:17,460 Mysterious, brooding, secretive. 237 00:13:17,530 --> 00:13:20,030 I kind of like it. I don't know if I could live with it, but... 238 00:13:20,090 --> 00:13:22,770 My idea of modern art is LeRoy Neiman. 239 00:13:22,830 --> 00:13:24,830 She signed it. It's dated last month. 240 00:13:24,900 --> 00:13:27,610 She didn't have any paints in her apartment. Canvases, nothing. 241 00:13:27,670 --> 00:13:31,670 A lot of our artists rent studio space in the Co-op on Avenue "C". 242 00:13:31,740 --> 00:13:33,690 You're in luck. 243 00:13:33,740 --> 00:13:36,240 Jen's been here all day. She's on a creative jag. 244 00:13:36,310 --> 00:13:39,480 I used to have those, only I called them benders. 245 00:13:39,550 --> 00:13:42,050 This is Jen's studio. I'll let you guys be. 246 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:46,120 Would you mind unlocking the door? She's not gonna hear us knock. Right. I forgot. 247 00:13:50,330 --> 00:13:52,270 There you go. Thanks. 248 00:13:56,260 --> 00:13:58,510 How do we get her attention? I don't wanna scare her. 249 00:13:58,570 --> 00:14:01,170 Maybe she can feel vibration. 250 00:14:05,140 --> 00:14:07,380 Whoa! Hey! 251 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,250 Stop! Stop! All right, take it... 252 00:14:10,310 --> 00:14:12,310 No! 253 00:14:14,580 --> 00:14:18,390 Docket number 456383, People v. Eli Madison. 254 00:14:18,450 --> 00:14:22,130 Charge is murder in the second degree. How does the defendant plead? 255 00:14:22,190 --> 00:14:24,690 Not guilty, Your Honor. Ms. Southerlyn? 256 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,900 The accused is charged with murdering his 50-year-old neighbor and hacking him into pieces. 257 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,430 I imagine you're requesting remand. Your turn, Mr Archer 258 00:14:32,500 --> 00:14:35,950 Mr. Madison is a scion of one of New York's best-known families. 259 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,610 Yes, and I remember reading about him in all the papers, what was it, 10 years ago? 260 00:14:39,670 --> 00:14:43,210 Those accusations were false, Your Honor. They shouldn't be taken into consideration now. 261 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,990 The defendant has been living under an assumed name. 262 00:14:46,050 --> 00:14:48,790 To avoid the negative publicity that almost destroyed him. 263 00:14:48,850 --> 00:14:50,800 Jennifer Shelby, Your Honor. 264 00:14:50,850 --> 00:14:53,860 - Excuse me, counselor? - His assumed name and false identity. 265 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,770 He's been living as a woman, Your Honor. 266 00:14:56,820 --> 00:15:00,290 Better and better. Bail is set at two million dollars. 267 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,570 Defendant will surrender his passport. [Gavel Raps] 268 00:15:02,630 --> 00:15:04,870 Next? 269 00:15:04,930 --> 00:15:08,180 Is this the same Eli Madison whose wife went missing 10 years ago? 270 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,150 The same Eli Madison Adam Schiff could never quite indict for her murder. 271 00:15:12,210 --> 00:15:15,880 Why not? Because her body was never found. 272 00:15:15,940 --> 00:15:19,550 Eli claimed she just walked out on him one clay. She's never been seen since. 273 00:15:19,610 --> 00:15:21,920 How good a case was it? 274 00:15:21,980 --> 00:15:26,160 The police found traces of Caroline Madison's blood in their bedroom, 275 00:15:26,220 --> 00:15:28,360 evidence of a missing rug... 276 00:15:28,420 --> 00:15:31,270 and a dryer full of freshly washed sheets. 277 00:15:31,330 --> 00:15:34,830 Hmm. That had to be quite a sight. Eli Madison doing his own laundry. 278 00:15:34,900 --> 00:15:38,070 Eli could never really account for his movements that day. 279 00:15:38,130 --> 00:15:42,950 Lots of gaps and inconsistencies, and his alibi was his best friend. 280 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,780 And after the story broke and Madison was questioned by the police, 281 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,790 he fled the country. 282 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,320 Evidence of consciousness of guilt. It sounds pretty solid. 283 00:15:51,380 --> 00:15:55,790 Lots of bits and pieces, but never quite enough. And the Madisons had clout. 284 00:15:55,850 --> 00:15:58,760 This office has tried a couple of homicides without a body, 285 00:15:58,820 --> 00:16:01,820 but I wouldn't necessarily recommend it. 286 00:16:01,890 --> 00:16:05,060 What about this case? We have a body. Most of one, anyway. 287 00:16:05,130 --> 00:16:08,070 Unfortunately, not the parts that would tell us cause of death. 288 00:16:08,130 --> 00:16:10,800 - What are we missing? - The head, the heart. 289 00:16:10,870 --> 00:16:14,240 We'll have to trust the jury to draw the obvious conclusion. 290 00:16:14,300 --> 00:16:18,310 Which may not be all that obvious when it comes time to deliberate. 291 00:16:18,370 --> 00:16:23,320 He's got Al Archer, who'll blow a lot of expensive smoke up the jury's skirt. 292 00:16:23,380 --> 00:16:26,450 We can handle Archer and his legions of experts, Arthur. 293 00:16:26,510 --> 00:16:29,930 He also churns more documents than the Land O' Lake girl churns butter. Let him churn. 294 00:16:29,980 --> 00:16:32,400 The facts don't disappear. 295 00:16:32,450 --> 00:16:35,460 But they can be spun, along with a jury. [Knocking] 296 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,630 And I'd feel a lot better if we had a motive. 297 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,740 Well, let the churning begin. 298 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,300 Motion fora change of venue. 299 00:16:49,170 --> 00:16:52,240 Had I known, I'd have rented a banquet hall. 300 00:16:52,310 --> 00:16:56,880 Because of the nature of the case and the difficulty and the variety of the issues involved, 301 00:16:56,940 --> 00:17:00,360 Mr. Madison has authorized me to retain co-counsel in his behalf. 302 00:17:00,410 --> 00:17:03,190 This is Ron Gumer from Hanson Brackens. 303 00:17:03,250 --> 00:17:05,860 He'll be advising on matters forensic. Your Honor. 304 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,420 Madeline Myers from the Prescott firm. 305 00:17:08,490 --> 00:17:10,990 She'll be dealing with the D.N.A. evidence. Sir. 306 00:17:11,060 --> 00:17:14,300 And Professor Enright, who I'm sure you know, wrote the book on venue, literally. 307 00:17:14,360 --> 00:17:16,600 The more, the merrier. 308 00:17:16,660 --> 00:17:19,010 I assume this is your party, Professor? Thank you, Your Honor. 309 00:17:19,070 --> 00:17:21,640 As we're all aware, 310 00:17:21,700 --> 00:17:24,510 the critical consideration of the venue provisions... 311 00:17:24,570 --> 00:17:27,020 is whether the defendant can get a fair trial... 312 00:17:27,070 --> 00:17:29,680 in the community in which the crime occurred 313 00:17:29,740 --> 00:17:32,490 “Millionaire Murderer." 314 00:17:33,750 --> 00:17:35,690 “Mayflower Maniac." 315 00:17:36,980 --> 00:17:40,730 "Seven-figure Sadist." "Wealthy Wife Killer." 316 00:17:40,790 --> 00:17:44,630 As we can see from these headlines, a jury in this jurisdiction... 317 00:17:44,690 --> 00:17:47,830 cannot possibly approach this case with an open mind. 318 00:17:47,900 --> 00:17:51,370 - The entire jury pool has been poisoned - Those headlines are 10 years old. 319 00:17:51,430 --> 00:17:55,040 The case at bar does not involve Caroline Madison's disappearance. 320 00:17:55,100 --> 00:18:00,110 Caroline Madison's family kept her dissappearance at the forefront of the city's consciousness... 321 00:18:00,170 --> 00:18:03,350 with its very public wrongful death lawsuit against our client. 322 00:18:03,410 --> 00:18:05,890 And may I remind Your Honor... 323 00:18:05,950 --> 00:18:09,690 that that case was dismissed only after six years of litigation and publicity. 324 00:18:09,750 --> 00:18:13,930 And where would you have me transfer the case, Mr. Archer? 325 00:18:13,990 --> 00:18:17,090 Suffolk County would be satisfactory to the defense. [McCoy] The Hamptons! 326 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,730 Why not hold the trial in the lounge of Eli Madison's country club? 327 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:25,440 Your Honor, any prior knowledge of Mr. Madison's first run-in with the law... 328 00:18:25,500 --> 00:18:27,450 can be dealt with on voir dire. 329 00:18:27,500 --> 00:18:30,540 I agree, Mr. McCoy. Defense motion is denied. 330 00:18:30,610 --> 00:18:34,880 In that case, Your Honor, I move to preclude any mention of Ms. Madison's disappearance. 331 00:18:34,940 --> 00:18:37,860 People oppose the request. On what grounds? 332 00:18:37,910 --> 00:18:41,260 You just said the case at bar doesn't involve Caroline Maclison's disappearance. 333 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,320 Those are your words, Mr. McCoy. He's changing the context, Your Honor. 334 00:18:44,390 --> 00:18:47,590 No, Mr. McCoy. If it involves Ms. Madison's disappearance, 335 00:18:47,660 --> 00:18:50,360 it will not be admissible in my courtroom. 336 00:18:55,660 --> 00:18:58,300 I analyzed blood found in the decedent's bathroom... 337 00:18:58,370 --> 00:19:01,040 and on the knife found in the defendant's apartment, 338 00:19:01,100 --> 00:19:03,450 as well as the body parts found by the police. 339 00:19:03,500 --> 00:19:06,610 - How many matches did you find? - Nine. 340 00:19:06,670 --> 00:19:11,150 - Have you reached a conclusion? - The D.N.A. samples are from the same individual. 341 00:19:11,210 --> 00:19:13,990 The blood on the knife in Mr. Madison's apartment, 342 00:19:14,050 --> 00:19:17,550 the blood in Mr. Barry's bathtub... 343 00:19:17,620 --> 00:19:20,620 and the body parts... all the same D.N.A.? 344 00:19:20,690 --> 00:19:23,130 Yes. 345 00:19:24,690 --> 00:19:27,760 Specifically, Doctor, what analytic method did your lab use? 346 00:19:27,830 --> 00:19:30,930 P.C.R. Polymerase Chain Reaction. 347 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,740 - That's it? - Yes. 348 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,080 You didn't use SNIPS? Single Nucleotide Polymorphism Analysis. 349 00:19:37,140 --> 00:19:39,640 No. Or Short Tandem Repeat Technology? 350 00:19:39,710 --> 00:19:41,780 - No. - Can I ask why? 351 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,520 P.C.R. analysis is accurate and sufficient. 352 00:19:44,580 --> 00:19:48,360 I didn't think it was necessary to verify further with additional modalities. 353 00:19:48,420 --> 00:19:51,660 Well, without having conducted those additional analyses, 354 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,000 can you testify that the results would be the same? 355 00:19:54,060 --> 00:19:56,900 - No, I can't, but... - Nothing further. 356 00:20:01,660 --> 00:20:05,970 Detective Green, I show you People's exhibit "A". 357 00:20:06,030 --> 00:20:10,710 Do you recognize it? That's the knife that we found in Jennifer Shelby's... 358 00:20:10,770 --> 00:20:13,550 - Eli Madison's apartment. - [McCoy] What did you do with it? 359 00:20:13,610 --> 00:20:17,060 Well, we observed some residue on the knife that looked like dried blood, 360 00:20:17,110 --> 00:20:20,390 so we followed standard procedure to preserve the chain of custody... 361 00:20:20,450 --> 00:20:22,550 and protect the evidence from contamination. 362 00:20:22,620 --> 00:20:25,460 And then we sent it to the lab to be analyzed. 363 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,520 No further questions, Your Honor. 364 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,230 Detective Green. 365 00:20:32,290 --> 00:20:35,640 Did you do a thorough inventory of the contents of the defendant's apartment? 366 00:20:35,700 --> 00:20:38,200 - Yes, we did. - And were there other knives in the defendant's kitchen? 367 00:20:38,270 --> 00:20:40,250 Yes. Other sharp knives, for cooking or whatever? 368 00:20:40,300 --> 00:20:43,580 There was a set of knives of various sizes and a cutting board. 369 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,850 So was this knife, the one that you just entered in to evidence, part of that set? 370 00:20:46,910 --> 00:20:48,390 No. How was it different? 371 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,890 That knife is quite a bit larger, and the handle is different. 372 00:20:51,950 --> 00:20:55,690 So this knife doesn't resemble any of the other knives in the kitchen? 373 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,390 No. Not really. 374 00:20:59,450 --> 00:21:01,460 Hmm. 375 00:21:05,130 --> 00:21:08,400 I compared the incisions and markings on the flesh and bone of the decedent. 376 00:21:08,460 --> 00:21:10,600 With the structural characteristics of the knife. 377 00:21:10,660 --> 00:21:13,510 Could this particular knife have been used to cut up the body? 378 00:21:13,570 --> 00:21:18,240 Yes, the bone and flesh incisions are consistent with the cutting characteristics of this knife. 379 00:21:22,180 --> 00:21:24,520 “Consistent with." 380 00:21:24,580 --> 00:21:27,220 That's not the same as “the same," is it? 381 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,420 No. 382 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,060 This knife might have been used to dismember the body. 383 00:21:33,120 --> 00:21:35,070 Yes. But you can't be sure. 384 00:21:35,120 --> 00:21:38,070 It lacks sufficient distinguishing characteristics... 385 00:21:38,130 --> 00:21:40,300 to make a definitive identification. 386 00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:43,430 ls there any way to determine whether this particular knife was used to kill Mr. Barry? 387 00:21:43,500 --> 00:21:46,240 Not in this case. The knife lacks... 388 00:21:46,300 --> 00:21:48,640 Sufficient distinguishing characteristics. 389 00:21:48,700 --> 00:21:50,940 Thank you. 390 00:21:51,010 --> 00:21:53,920 Oh, by the way, Doctor, 391 00:21:53,970 --> 00:21:56,780 what actually did kill Mr. Barry? 392 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,980 Was he, in fact, stabbed to death, or shot, or bludgeoned, 393 00:22:00,050 --> 00:22:02,190 or did he die of natural causes? 394 00:22:02,250 --> 00:22:04,420 A heart attack, stroke? 395 00:22:04,490 --> 00:22:07,400 - The cause is unknown at this time - Why is that? 396 00:22:07,460 --> 00:22:10,900 We don't have enough of Mr. Barry's remains... 397 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,910 to determine with medical certainty the cause of death. 398 00:22:19,070 --> 00:22:22,340 [Archer] When you kept Mr. Barry company on these occasions, how were you dressed? 399 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,440 As a woman. As Jennifer He knew me as Jennifer. 400 00:22:26,510 --> 00:22:29,110 So what happened the night he died? 401 00:22:30,180 --> 00:22:34,350 I was in Roger's apartment. We were watching a basketball game. 402 00:22:34,420 --> 00:22:38,760 I got caught up in it and yelled something in my real voice. 403 00:22:38,820 --> 00:22:40,920 And Mr. Barry? He freaked. 404 00:22:40,990 --> 00:22:43,760 He realized I wasn't really deaf, 405 00:22:43,820 --> 00:22:45,770 that I wasn't a woman. 406 00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:49,430 And why would that matter so much to him? 407 00:22:50,730 --> 00:22:52,680 Eli? 408 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,350 We'd been... intimate. 409 00:22:59,410 --> 00:23:02,290 So you'd had sex with Roger Barry. Yes. 410 00:23:02,340 --> 00:23:06,990 And he still didn't know? I was good at putting him off in certain ways. 411 00:23:07,050 --> 00:23:10,290 At deceiving him? Yes. 412 00:23:10,350 --> 00:23:14,360 Hmm. So he was upset, angry. 413 00:23:14,420 --> 00:23:18,060 Furious! He hit me over and over with his cane. He had a terrible temper. 414 00:23:18,130 --> 00:23:22,130 I was fending him off, and he... 415 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,940 he made this awful gasping noise. 416 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,240 He dropped his cane, clutched his chest and fell down. 417 00:23:29,300 --> 00:23:32,840 Then he turned blue. I guess he had a heart attack. 418 00:23:32,910 --> 00:23:36,860 I did C.P.R. on him. It seemed like hours. 419 00:23:36,910 --> 00:23:38,860 But... 420 00:23:40,510 --> 00:23:43,360 So Mr. Barry is lying there, dead, 421 00:23:43,420 --> 00:23:46,020 despite your best efforts to revive him. 422 00:23:46,090 --> 00:23:48,790 So what‘d you do next, Eli? I panicked. 423 00:23:48,860 --> 00:23:52,300 Why? I knew what the police would think! 424 00:23:52,360 --> 00:23:56,810 I couldn't have our relationship or my life as Jennifer Shelby exposed. 425 00:23:56,860 --> 00:24:00,870 And I certainly couldn't go to prison. I'd never survive. 426 00:24:00,940 --> 00:24:04,040 So I decided to get rid of Roger's body. 427 00:24:04,100 --> 00:24:07,240 So that's when you went back to your apartment to get that knife. 428 00:24:07,310 --> 00:24:10,450 - That's not my knife - It isn't? 429 00:24:10,510 --> 00:24:13,890 I've never seen it before. Besides, I didn't need one. 430 00:24:13,950 --> 00:24:16,290 Roger kept a metal cutter in his closet. 431 00:24:16,350 --> 00:24:19,020 So the knife that the police found in your apartment, 432 00:24:19,090 --> 00:24:22,260 the knife that doesn't match any of the knives in your kitchen 433 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,600 the knife that you say you've never seen before... 434 00:24:24,660 --> 00:24:27,370 How did that knife come to be in your apartment? I have no idea. 435 00:24:27,430 --> 00:24:30,740 - Well, how did Mr. Barry's blood get on that knife? - I have no idea. 436 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,610 - I do! - Objection! Chambers, Your Honor! 437 00:24:36,270 --> 00:24:38,770 Accusing the prosecution of planting evidence! 438 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,180 I didn't mean to imply you personally, Mr. McCoy, 439 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,020 but there is a long list of people working for the state.. 440 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,580 who've wanted Mr. Madison in prison for the past 10 years. 441 00:24:46,650 --> 00:24:50,290 There is no basis in fact for these allegations. I will strike that remark. 442 00:24:50,350 --> 00:24:52,350 You can't unring the bell, Your Honor. 443 00:24:52,420 --> 00:24:57,330 No, but I can issue an instruction for the jury to ignore it, Mr. McCoy. 444 00:24:59,460 --> 00:25:02,700 [McCoy] Mr. Barry kept a metal cutter in his closet? 445 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,270 He worked with his hands. He made his own furniture. 446 00:25:05,330 --> 00:25:09,250 Quite a coincidence that the knife the police found in your apartment. 447 00:25:09,300 --> 00:25:13,340 has the same characteristics as the metal cutter they didn't find. 448 00:25:13,410 --> 00:25:17,410 Do you know why they didn't find it? I tossed it into one of the Dumpsters. 449 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,790 I guess they didn't look hard enough. 450 00:25:19,850 --> 00:25:23,620 The police also failed to find Mr. Barry's heart, 451 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,130 which would have proved or disproved... 452 00:25:26,190 --> 00:25:28,460 your story about a heart attack. 453 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,970 I wish they had. An autopsy would have exonerated me. 454 00:25:33,030 --> 00:25:35,470 You should have thought of that before you cut up your boyfriend's body. 455 00:25:35,530 --> 00:25:38,440 [Archer] Objection! Withdrawn. 456 00:25:38,500 --> 00:25:42,850 You testified that you dismembered Mr. Barry's body... 457 00:25:42,900 --> 00:25:45,470 because quote... 458 00:25:45,540 --> 00:25:47,880 “You knew what the police would think." 459 00:25:47,940 --> 00:25:50,950 What were you afraid the police would think? 460 00:25:51,010 --> 00:25:52,790 Approach, Your Honor. 461 00:25:56,020 --> 00:26:00,400 You've already ruled on this. My client is being tried for the murder of Roger Barry. 462 00:26:00,450 --> 00:26:04,230 Any mention of his missing wife is prejudicial and irrelevant. 463 00:26:04,290 --> 00:26:07,470 I didn't ask Mr. Madison about his wife's disappearance. 464 00:26:07,530 --> 00:26:09,530 I asked him about his state of mind. 465 00:26:10,700 --> 00:26:13,370 Your client opened the door, Mr. Archer. I'm gonna allow it. 466 00:26:20,470 --> 00:26:23,180 What were you afraid the police would think, Mr. Madison? 467 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,520 That I killed him too, just like you think I killed my wife. 468 00:26:26,580 --> 00:26:29,580 You still think I killed my wife, even though you know you can't prove it. 469 00:26:29,650 --> 00:26:32,190 - Your Honor... - Because I didn't do it! 470 00:26:32,250 --> 00:26:36,930 They all think I killed my wife! But they couldn't prove anything then, so that's why they're setting me up now! 471 00:26:36,990 --> 00:26:39,030 Move to strike. Unresponsive! 472 00:26:39,090 --> 00:26:42,870 Stricken. Jury will disregard the witness's last remark. 473 00:26:52,370 --> 00:26:55,620 [Judge Bradley] Have you reached a verdict? We have. 474 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,920 On the sole count of the indictment, murder in the second degree, 475 00:26:58,980 --> 00:27:01,120 how do you find? 476 00:27:01,180 --> 00:27:04,360 We find the defendant, Eli Madison, not guilty. 477 00:27:04,420 --> 00:27:06,520 [Chuckling] 478 00:27:19,300 --> 00:27:22,280 Well, I told you that Archer could blow smoke. 479 00:27:22,340 --> 00:27:26,080 It's like that old saying: “Who you gonna believe, me or your lyin' eyes?” 480 00:27:26,140 --> 00:27:30,490 And they believed Archer. Creating reasonable doubt where none exists costs money. 481 00:27:30,540 --> 00:27:34,650 And what, people like Eli Madison are entitled to as much justice as they can afford? 482 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,490 Well, at the end of the day, all we really proved... 483 00:27:37,550 --> 00:27:40,290 was that Eli Madison cut up a body. 484 00:27:40,350 --> 00:27:42,390 I'm not done with Eli Madison yet. 485 00:27:42,460 --> 00:27:45,460 What do you have in mind, charging him with obstruction and tampering? 486 00:27:45,530 --> 00:27:47,840 No, with killing his wife. 487 00:27:47,900 --> 00:27:52,070 Remember what I said about prosecuting homicides without bodies. 488 00:27:52,130 --> 00:27:55,480 If all Eli Madison wanted to do was avoid being recognized, 489 00:27:55,540 --> 00:27:58,280 he could have grown a beard or shaved his head. 490 00:27:58,340 --> 00:28:01,340 But instead he put on a wig and a dress. 491 00:28:01,410 --> 00:28:05,080 It must mean something. Pretzel? 492 00:28:05,150 --> 00:28:08,520 What if he is a transvestite? 493 00:28:08,580 --> 00:28:11,260 Then some of what he said on the stand could be true. 494 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,700 Maybe he really couldn't bear being found out. 495 00:28:13,750 --> 00:28:15,700 And if that's why he killed Roger Barry... 496 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,070 Maybe he killed his wife for the same reason. 497 00:28:19,130 --> 00:28:21,160 Say she found out his secret. 498 00:28:21,230 --> 00:28:25,230 For a man like Eli Madison, living in that cloistered world of old money... 499 00:28:25,300 --> 00:28:27,400 Better a murderer than a cross-dresser. 500 00:28:27,470 --> 00:28:31,310 Exactly. Delve as deep as you can into Eli Madison. 501 00:28:31,370 --> 00:28:34,880 Let's find out how good he was at keeping his secret. 502 00:28:37,740 --> 00:28:40,590 Here he is. Eli Peter Madison. 503 00:28:40,650 --> 00:28:44,220 Married Caroline Gail Thornton December 5,1992. 504 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,530 Divorced her July14,1996. Uncontested. 505 00:28:48,590 --> 00:28:51,200 It's hard to contest anything when you've been misplaced. 506 00:28:51,260 --> 00:28:53,430 Is that it? 507 00:28:53,490 --> 00:28:56,100 Did you know he was married before? 508 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,200 No. 1982. 509 00:28:59,270 --> 00:29:01,210 That would have made him 18 or so. 510 00:29:01,270 --> 00:29:04,250 He married a Diane Wharsey, also 18. 511 00:29:04,300 --> 00:29:06,650 Didn't last long. Six months. 512 00:29:06,710 --> 00:29:10,120 - You happen to have an address? - [Scoffs] Twenty-two years old. 513 00:29:10,180 --> 00:29:12,660 You gotta start somewhere. 514 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,820 I bought it with the settlement, and I've been here ever since. 515 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,700 We were children. 516 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,400 Of course it didn't last. 517 00:29:26,460 --> 00:29:29,170 Can I ask you an embarrassing question? 518 00:29:29,230 --> 00:29:31,540 Can I stop you? 519 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,100 How was your sex life? 520 00:29:34,170 --> 00:29:36,240 Uh... 521 00:29:36,300 --> 00:29:38,370 We thought it was great. 522 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,180 I mean, what do you even know at that age? 523 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:47,850 Did Eli have any tendencies that weren't... mainstream? 524 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:52,420 Ms. Southerlyn, maybe you oughta just stop beating around the bush... 525 00:29:52,490 --> 00:29:54,560 and say what you mean. 526 00:29:54,620 --> 00:29:57,530 Are you asking was he gay? We could start there. 527 00:29:57,590 --> 00:30:00,370 I don't think he really knew one way or the other. 528 00:30:00,430 --> 00:30:03,410 Now, let me ask you a question. 529 00:30:03,460 --> 00:30:05,940 Why are you here? Eli was acquitted. 530 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,810 We're looking into the disappearance of his second wife. 531 00:30:08,870 --> 00:30:10,820 Ah, Caroline. 532 00:30:10,870 --> 00:30:14,410 The case is still open, and I was wondering if he ever talked to you about it. 533 00:30:14,470 --> 00:30:16,980 He called me from Europe. He was distraught. 534 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,720 He felt persecuted. 535 00:30:19,780 --> 00:30:22,560 He had to come back for the trial and Dwayne had just died. 536 00:30:22,620 --> 00:30:25,290 Dwayne ? Evans. His very close friend. 537 00:30:25,350 --> 00:30:28,130 Dwayne had a terrible accident. 538 00:30:28,190 --> 00:30:30,960 Rock climbing or something out west. 539 00:30:31,020 --> 00:30:35,870 They had just taken his deposition, and he was supposed to come back to New York to testify. 540 00:30:35,930 --> 00:30:38,210 Was this Eli's alibi witness? Mmm. 541 00:30:38,270 --> 00:30:43,150 Eli was beside himself. He lost the one person who could really exonerate him. 542 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,240 Did you know Dwayne? A little. 543 00:30:45,310 --> 00:30:48,150 He made Eli look like the poster boy for normal. 544 00:30:48,210 --> 00:30:51,490 How so? Neurotic, hysterical. 545 00:30:51,550 --> 00:30:54,220 You name it. 546 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,750 And you know, looking back? He and Eli might have been lovers. 547 00:31:01,250 --> 00:31:03,930 According to Immigration, Eli Madison flew back from Europe... 548 00:31:03,990 --> 00:31:06,600 two weeks before he testified in the civil suit. 549 00:31:06,660 --> 00:31:10,400 He then flew back to Europe the day after the case was dismissed. 550 00:31:10,460 --> 00:31:12,540 He beat the rap on that one too. 551 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,450 His friend Dwayne Evans died a week after Eli Madison came back to the States. 552 00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:20,450 That was an accident. Evans was hiking in the backcountry near Taos. 553 00:31:20,510 --> 00:31:24,080 Some day-trippers found his body at the base of the cliff. 554 00:31:24,140 --> 00:31:26,650 You think Madison was involved somehow? 555 00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:30,960 When he called Diane Wharsey to talk about it, he told her he was in Europe, but he couldn't have been. 556 00:31:31,020 --> 00:31:34,020 He was already here. She misremembers the conversation. 557 00:31:34,090 --> 00:31:36,690 Why would he kill his alibi witness? 558 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,760 Diane said that Dwayne was unstable. 559 00:31:38,830 --> 00:31:42,740 Maybe Eli was worried about how he would hold up at the civil trial. 560 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,800 If Dwayne flip-flopped in court, 561 00:31:44,870 --> 00:31:47,810 Eli might lose the wrongful death suit. 562 00:31:47,870 --> 00:31:50,210 Criminal trial wouldn't be far behind. 563 00:31:50,270 --> 00:31:54,780 If you can put Eli Madison in Taos at the time of Dwayne Evans's death, 564 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,850 we might be able to persuade the New Mexico medical examiner to have Evans‘s body exhumed. 565 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,900 Eleven airlines flew into Albuquerque during that time period. 566 00:32:05,950 --> 00:32:09,960 [Beeping] Checking first class for those weeks. 567 00:32:10,020 --> 00:32:12,160 No Eli Madison on any of them. 568 00:32:12,230 --> 00:32:14,830 I can check coach too. That's gonna take some time. 569 00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:17,570 Yeah, well, you might as well. 570 00:32:17,630 --> 00:32:21,580 Maybe he drove to Taos from Phoenix or L.A. or Las Vegas. 571 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,240 The needle in a haystack. What about the family jet? 572 00:32:24,300 --> 00:32:27,110 Isn't there a small airport in Santa Fe? I checked that already. 573 00:32:27,170 --> 00:32:29,680 The Madison Gulf stream was in St. Bart's that month. 574 00:32:29,740 --> 00:32:32,250 See what you can come up with. I'll come back later. 575 00:32:32,310 --> 00:32:35,820 If you can't find anything into Albuquerque, expand your search. 576 00:32:37,620 --> 00:32:40,390 Wait a minute. 577 00:32:40,450 --> 00:32:42,560 Try Jennifer Shelby. 578 00:32:49,500 --> 00:32:52,480 A Jennifer Shelby flew into Albuquerque, New Mexico... 579 00:32:52,530 --> 00:32:55,450 three days before Dwayne Evans had his accident. 580 00:32:55,500 --> 00:33:00,140 On the same day, Dwayne Evans rented a car at the Albuquerque airport and drove to Taos. 581 00:33:00,210 --> 00:33:03,380 He checked into the Casa Benitez in the company of a woman... 582 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,360 who matches the description of Jennifer Shelby. 583 00:33:06,410 --> 00:33:08,650 Eli Madison. 584 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,530 When the cops went to talk to her about Dwayne‘s accident, 585 00:33:12,590 --> 00:33:15,730 she'd split, vanished into thin air. 586 00:33:15,790 --> 00:33:17,740 With Dwayne Evans dead, 587 00:33:17,790 --> 00:33:21,740 all that was available for either the civil suit or a possible criminal case... 588 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,440 was his deposition testimony. 589 00:33:24,500 --> 00:33:27,210 Which was Eli's alibi. 590 00:33:28,670 --> 00:33:31,980 Send pictures of Eli Madison in and out of drag... 591 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,950 to the Taos P.D. 592 00:33:34,010 --> 00:33:36,920 Ask them to do a photo array for the people at the inn... 593 00:33:36,980 --> 00:33:40,150 and file charges... murder two... for killing Caroline Madison. 594 00:33:40,210 --> 00:33:42,250 We still don't have the body. 595 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:47,060 Last I looked, killing a witness is evidence of the underlying crime. 596 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,970 With all the other evidence, it finally ought to be enough to get an indictment. 597 00:33:51,020 --> 00:33:55,300 I'm gonna contact the authorities in New Mexico, have them exhume Dwayne Evans. 598 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,370 They may want to file charges of their own. 599 00:34:01,470 --> 00:34:03,970 At our request, the New Mexico authorities... 600 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,780 exhumed and autopsied the remains of Dwayne Evans. 601 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,150 I compared D.N.A. from skin taken from under Mr. Evans's fingernails. 602 00:34:10,210 --> 00:34:12,780 to court-ordered D.N.A. taken from the defendant. 603 00:34:12,850 --> 00:34:16,120 - And what did you find? - The D.N.A. matched at 10 regions. 604 00:34:16,180 --> 00:34:18,530 And from that, you're able to conclude... 605 00:34:18,590 --> 00:34:21,730 The skin under Dwayne Evans's fingernails was Eli Madison's. 606 00:34:21,790 --> 00:34:24,890 [McCoy] Dr. Faruzzi, what method did you use... 607 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,960 to compare D.N.A. from the several samples? 608 00:34:28,030 --> 00:34:30,340 P.C.R. analysis. 609 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,400 You didn't use Restriction Fragment Length Polymorphism analysis? 610 00:34:34,470 --> 00:34:37,210 R.F.L.P.? I didn't need to. 611 00:34:37,270 --> 00:34:40,220 Eight years ago, if Dwayne Evans‘s death... 612 00:34:40,270 --> 00:34:42,480 had not been ruled an accident, 613 00:34:42,540 --> 00:34:46,550 what method would the New Mexico forensic scientists have used? 614 00:34:46,610 --> 00:34:49,690 Eight years ago, R.F.L.P. analysis was state-of-the-art. 615 00:34:49,750 --> 00:34:52,750 And now? It's hardy used at all. 616 00:34:52,820 --> 00:34:56,060 There are much more efficient and accurate methods of testing. 617 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,660 - Such as? - P.C.R. analysis. 618 00:35:00,730 --> 00:35:03,040 No further questions, Your Honor. 619 00:35:06,430 --> 00:35:08,440 We were best friends. 620 00:35:10,140 --> 00:35:14,350 I needed to talk to someone. But why go in disguise? 621 00:35:14,410 --> 00:35:17,910 Why visit Dwayne Evans as Jennifer Shelby? To protect Dwayne's privacy. 622 00:35:17,980 --> 00:35:20,250 The police, the press wouldn't leave me alone. 623 00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:24,520 Everywhere I went, following me, accusing me, taking pictures, asking stupid questions! 624 00:35:24,580 --> 00:35:27,760 [Archer] Can you explain how your skin got under Dwayne's fingernails? 625 00:35:27,820 --> 00:35:30,170 Yes. 626 00:35:30,220 --> 00:35:32,500 We were lovers. 627 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,230 Did you go hiking with Dwayne that day? No. 628 00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:39,110 Ah. So tell us what happened. We made love early that morning. 629 00:35:39,170 --> 00:35:43,050 And then Dwayne left to go hiking in the Rio Grande gorge. 630 00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:46,080 He was supposed to come back by noon. 631 00:35:46,140 --> 00:35:48,750 He didn't come back. 632 00:35:48,810 --> 00:35:51,380 By 4:00, I was worried sick. 633 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,290 By 6:00 I was panic-stricken, and by 9:00 I knew something terrible had happened to him. 634 00:35:55,350 --> 00:35:57,990 [Archer] Why didn't you call the police? I panicked. 635 00:35:58,050 --> 00:36:02,970 Because of my wife's disappearance, I knew they would have thought I had some thing to do with it. 636 00:36:03,020 --> 00:36:06,490 Dwayne had taken the rental car. I was stranded; I didn't know what to do. 637 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,240 The next morning I caught an early bus to Colorado Springs and flew home. 638 00:36:10,300 --> 00:36:14,110 So you didn't have anything to do with Dwayne's accident? 639 00:36:14,170 --> 00:36:16,910 Of course not. 640 00:36:16,970 --> 00:36:19,970 I loved him more than anyone. 641 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,750 I'm sorry I wasn't there that day. 642 00:36:24,810 --> 00:36:27,490 Maybe I could've helped him. 643 00:36:30,250 --> 00:36:32,200 [Sobs] 644 00:36:46,170 --> 00:36:49,880 You say you could have helped him You don't do well under pressure. 645 00:36:49,940 --> 00:36:52,880 Do you, Mr. Madison? I don't know what you mean. 646 00:36:52,940 --> 00:36:55,440 Your fiiend Dwayne doesn't come back from a hike. 647 00:36:55,510 --> 00:36:58,980 You don't call the police, park rangers, E.M.S. 648 00:36:59,050 --> 00:37:02,050 I explained why I didn’t do any of that. I was under a cloud. 649 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,390 Isn 't it true that when your wife Caroline disappeared, 650 00:37:05,450 --> 00:37:08,020 it took you three clays to report her missing? 651 00:37:08,090 --> 00:37:11,130 I was away with Dwayne. I didn't even know she was gone. 652 00:37:12,590 --> 00:37:17,230 Of course, Dwayne's not here to corroborate your story. 653 00:37:17,300 --> 00:37:19,280 Objection! [Judge] Sustained 654 00:37:19,330 --> 00:37:23,470 Withdrawn. You didn't call the police for your friend Dwayne. 655 00:37:23,540 --> 00:37:28,490 It took you three clays to call the police about your wife's disappearance. 656 00:37:28,540 --> 00:37:33,180 Mr. Madison, did you call the police when your friend Roger Barry died? 657 00:37:33,250 --> 00:37:35,320 Approach, Your Honor. 658 00:37:39,650 --> 00:37:42,360 Your Honor, Mr. McCoy is attempting to introduce into evidence... 659 00:37:42,420 --> 00:37:45,560 facts relating to charges that my client was recently acquitted of. 660 00:37:45,630 --> 00:37:50,800 - I read the papers, Mr. Archer. - I'm trying to establish a pattern of behavior on Mr. Madison's part. 661 00:37:50,860 --> 00:37:54,240 Some of his behavior may be considered bizarre or inappropriate, 662 00:37:54,300 --> 00:37:56,610 but not admissible. 663 00:37:56,670 --> 00:38:01,280 Inappropriate? He admitted cutting Mr. Barry's body into pieces when he died. 664 00:38:01,340 --> 00:38:05,620 Some of the facts, out of context, may be so gruesome, Your Honor, as to be prejudicial. 665 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,630 I agree, Mr. Archer. 666 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,590 You may question the defendant about his failure to notify the authorities, 667 00:38:10,650 --> 00:38:14,060 but not about what he did subsequently. 668 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,500 So, Mr. Madison, 669 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,230 did you call the police when your friend Roger Barry died? 670 00:38:20,290 --> 00:38:24,570 No. What were the circumstances of his death? 671 00:38:24,630 --> 00:38:27,740 - He had a heart attack. - A heart attack? Are you a doctor? 672 00:38:28,770 --> 00:38:31,340 - No. - Did you call an ambulance? 673 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,440 No. Why not? 674 00:38:33,510 --> 00:38:36,750 I thought I might be blamed for what happened to him. 675 00:38:36,810 --> 00:38:39,420 Just as you thought you might be blamed for your friend Dwayne Evans's accident. 676 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,460 Yes. 677 00:38:41,510 --> 00:38:44,890 Just as you thought you mightbe blamed for the disappearance of your wife, Caroline. 678 00:38:44,950 --> 00:38:47,450 - Yes. - Blamed... 679 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,470 for a disappearance, an accident and a heart attack. 680 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,900 The police, they were out to get me! 681 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,440 With three dead bodies, can you blame them? 682 00:38:56,500 --> 00:38:59,770 [Archer] Objection! Withdrawn. 683 00:38:59,830 --> 00:39:02,180 No further questions, Your Honor. 684 00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:04,910 In that case, Your Honor, the defense rests. 685 00:39:04,970 --> 00:39:08,010 The People wish to call a rebuttal witness, Your Honor. 686 00:39:11,910 --> 00:39:14,720 Mr. Evans was staying at our bed and breakfast... 687 00:39:14,780 --> 00:39:17,760 when he had his hiking accident. 688 00:39:17,820 --> 00:39:21,130 - I remember him very well - That was eight years ago. 689 00:39:21,190 --> 00:39:25,100 We never had a guest die before... or since. 690 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,070 You don't forget something like that, believe me. 691 00:39:28,130 --> 00:39:31,870 - Was he alone? - He was with a woman. They checked in together. 692 00:39:31,930 --> 00:39:34,640 Do you see that individual in the courtroom? 693 00:39:34,700 --> 00:39:38,050 Yes, sort of. 694 00:39:38,100 --> 00:39:40,050 The defendant. 695 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,290 You said Mr. Evans was with a woman. 696 00:39:46,350 --> 00:39:48,850 The police showed me some pictures, and I recognized her. 697 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,520 Then they showed me some pictures without her wig, and it was him. 698 00:39:52,590 --> 00:39:54,930 The defendant? Yes. 699 00:39:54,990 --> 00:39:57,900 Did you see Mr. Evans on the day he had his accident? 700 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,630 I was up early fixing breakfast for the guests. 701 00:40:00,690 --> 00:40:04,640 I heard a car start up. I looked out the window, and I saw Mr. Evans drive off. 702 00:40:04,700 --> 00:40:09,340 - Was he alone? - There was someone in the car with him on the passenger side. 703 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,750 Could you see who it was? It was too dark. 704 00:40:12,810 --> 00:40:16,650 Did you see the defendant, Miss Shelby, as you knew her... 705 00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:18,660 at any time that day? 706 00:40:18,710 --> 00:40:23,290 A little after noon, I saw her get out of a car out at the road... 707 00:40:23,350 --> 00:40:26,560 and walk down the driveway of the hotel to her room. 708 00:40:26,620 --> 00:40:28,690 How did she look? 709 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:33,500 She looked hot, tired... and very dusty. 710 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,510 Did you see her again? 711 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,480 No, the next morning I went to change the sheets in their room, and she was gone. 712 00:40:39,530 --> 00:40:42,810 His stuff was still in the room but not hers. 713 00:40:42,870 --> 00:40:44,970 And then the police came. 714 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,520 They discovered Mr. Evans's body. 715 00:40:58,550 --> 00:41:02,230 [Judge] Have you reached a verdict in the death of Caroline Madison? We have. 716 00:41:02,290 --> 00:41:05,430 On the sole count of the indictment murder in the second degree, 717 00:41:05,490 --> 00:41:08,370 how do you find the defendant, Eli Madison? 718 00:41:08,430 --> 00:41:11,030 We find the defendant guilty. 719 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,320 A homicide conviction without a body. 720 00:41:27,380 --> 00:41:30,990 That's the prosecutor's quadruple jump. 721 00:41:31,050 --> 00:41:34,400 - I'm not gloating. - Ah, go ahead. You're entitled. 722 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,870 Guess justice isn't always for sale. 723 00:41:39,930 --> 00:41:41,930 Not today anyway. 724 00:42:23,770 --> 00:42:26,720 [Howling] 65884

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