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the people are represented by two separate
yet equally important groups-
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the police, who investigate crime,
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and the district attorneys,
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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I thought you were
buying the paper.
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Just checking the ponies.
Yeah?
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How did Johnnie Walker make out in the fifth?
Cut me some slack, Gretch.
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You know how much stress
I'm under right now.
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It is 8:00 in the damn morning.
I'll go to a meeting.
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Right.
[Sighs ]Jeffrey.
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I really mean it this time,
I swear.
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Oh, my God.
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[ Officer]
White female, late 30s.
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People who live in the garden apartment
found her first thing this morning.
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Guy's half in the bag.
The early bird catches the hangover.
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Looks like she took a header
from one of the hotel balconies.
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Get the crime techs up there.
Check out all the rooms
with balconies facing this backyard
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Will do.
Victim have any I.D. on her?
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No pockets. She was wearin' a skirt.
All right. Thanks.
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- Brody, what you got for us, man?
- Quick drive-by, blunt trauma smorgasbord.
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Broken pelvis,
shattered lower extremities,
lots of lacerations,
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rib cage like a bag full
of broken china.
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Jumpin' off a balcony
will do that.
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If she jumped,
she would have hit that lower roof.
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[Green] You saying she was pushed?
I'll know more when I get her on the table.
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But judging from the trajectory,
I'd say, yeah, she had help.
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Can you put a time on it?
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Based on body temperature
and lividity, I'd ballpark it somewhere
between 10:00 and 11:00 last night.
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Detectives,
this is Mr. Wrightsman,
the manager of the hotel.
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How can I help you?
What can you tell us about the upper floors,
the ones with the balconies?
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Those are our executive suites.
So much for the golden parachute.
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It's a nice view.
I prefer a southern exposure.
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Hey, Reed. You got anything?
Usable prints? I doubt it.
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But I did find this
lying out here on the terrace.
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Contact lens.
Cutting-edge R.G.P.
Rigid Gas Permeable.
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- Could've popped out during a struggle.
- Don't get your hopes up.
It's extremely durable.
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It could've been lying out here
for days, weeks, months.
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I know it's hopeless,
but get it to the lab anyway.
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What a novel idea.
I was gonna auction it off on eBay.
You want another idea?
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Detectives?
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Lisa Winslow checked in
yesterday afternoon around 4:00.
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Reception gave her one room key.
She certainly didn't mess up the room.
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Concierge said she just used it
to freshen up before her speech...
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at the Hoop-la International
Convention last night.
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- Hoop-la?
- Licensees for various pro basketball
products and spin-offs.
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We have some of the top players here.
Julius West, Jimmy Neal.
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- What'd she talk about?
- I gather she was some kind
of motivational speaker.
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Fire up the reps
to sell more sneakers.
That sort of thing.
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Five-hundred-dollar-a-day
dressing room?
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I guess she could afford it,
unless this purse is some kind
of Canal Street knockoff.
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Well, she's our high diver,
all right. âLisa Winslow."
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No wonder she could afford
to use the place
just to powder her nose.
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She's a local.
Blackstone Avenue, the Bronx.
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It's Riverdale.
Trust me, this purse is real.
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I'm sorry. Miss Winslow is not here.
I don't know where.
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[Briscoe] Who are you, ma'am?
I'm the nanny.
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Uh, if we could just come in?
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We need to talk to somebody
about Miss Winslow.
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Do you know if there's any family
we can call?
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Miss Lisa's sister is here.
Why don't you go get her? Thanks.
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You can wait in here.
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I hate it when they have kids.
You kidding? It's the worst.
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- Can I help you?
- Uh, this is Detective Green.
I'm Detective Briscoe.
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Renee Bishop.
ls there a problem?
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You're Lisa Winslow's sister?
What is it? What's wrong?
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I'm afraid that we have
some bad news.
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About Lisa?
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She was found dead early this morning
at the Park Terrace Hotel.
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Oh, my God!
She fell from a balcony
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Sophie.
Sophie?
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My niece, Lisa's daughter.
What am I going to tell her?
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Is her father around?
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Lisa's a single parent.
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What's his name?
Where can we get in touch with him?
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There's no one to get in touch with.
Sophie was adopted.
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Mommy?
Oh, Mommy's not home yet.
I'll be there in a minute.
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I can't find my princess doll.
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I'm going to be with you
in one minute, all right?
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Lorena, will you help her
look for her doll, please?
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Of course. Come, mi hija.
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[Sighs, Sobbing]
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When you're up to it,
we're gonna need you
to come down and identify her.
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Of course I will.
We also need to know
where your sister worked.
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She owned her own business.
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I think I have her card
in my purse.
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I'll get it.
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Lisa was one of the top
motivational speakers
in the country.
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Her competitive background
in athletics dovetailed nicely
with contemporary corporate culture.
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"1996 Olympic Swim Team."
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âFirst place, Big Island
Iron Woman Triathlon."
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She won three triathlons.
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Do you know how hard that is?
What an accomplishment?
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My idea of a triathlon
was junior high
punt, pass and kick.
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So she did well.
Oh, very well
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Business was booming. She was in great demand.
[Briscoe] What about her personal life?
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Lisa was much too busy
to have a personal life.
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No boyfriends,
ex-boyfriends, husbands?
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She was gay.
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Oh, any girlfriends,
ex-girlfriends?
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She never mentioned
anyone to me.
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What can you tell us
about this speaking engagement
she had last night?
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She rocked the house.
They absolutely ate it up.
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Finished the Q&A
a little after 9:00.
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What'd she do after that?
There was a reception.
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When I left,
she was heading to the bar
with a couple of players.
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- Schmoozing was Lisa's forte.
- Which players was she schmoozing with?
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I'm sorry. I'm not in to basketball.
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They were tall,
African American.
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She was in here last night.
Had a few Cosmos.
Actually, more than a few.
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Who was she drinking with?
A couple of black guys,
looked like basketball players.
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We got this Hoop-la-la
Convention here all week.
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So they had a couple of drinks--
A few laughs, then paid the tab and left.
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- Together?
- Yeah, I guess. Around 10:00.
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How'd they pay the tab?
One of the guys charged it to his room.
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Yeah, we tossed back a couple with her.
Honey said she was writing some sort
of motivational book for athletes.
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She wanted a few quotes,
like what makes a winner,
stuff like that.
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Uh, why?
We'll ask the questions.
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After the bar, what'd you do?
I went upstairs, hit the sack.
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Alone?
Yeah.
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What about you?
Me, I caught a ride downtown
to this new hip-hop spot, TR Caesars.
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How long were you there?
Uh, maybe till, like,
3:00 in the morning.
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Did you happen to get
a taxi receipt?
A taxi?
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Call the limo company
and they'll straighten you out.
All right. We will
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So, uh, am I off the hook?
I mean, I gotta split.
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Don't tell me I can't leave town.
I got a big game in K.C. tonight.
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You can go for now.
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See you in Philly, bro.
No doubt.
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So you're on your way
to your room. Did you ride
the elevator with Ms. Winslow?
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Yeah. She got off at her floor,
I went on up to mine.
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So as far as we know,
you were the last person
to see her alive.
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This is messed up.
I told you. I went to my room, man.
My wheels are here.
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That's gonna have to wait.
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You were in the elevator with her.
Y'all got this connection going.
You end up in her room?
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No. I told you.
I did not go to the lady's room.
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Only she's not interested
in what you have to offer,
and you can't figure out why.
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This is so wrong.
âNoâ is not a word you're
used to hearing, is it, Shawn?
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[Sighs]
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Look, I hooked up
with a shortie, okay?
A shortie?
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A female.
She was hangin' in the lobby,
sweatin' me all night.
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Finally gave her my room number,
told her to holler at me around 10:00.
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You got a name for this shortie?
Alicia. I think.
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So, Alicia. You didn't happen
to notice her last name, did you?
No, I didn't.
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It was just a one-hitter quitter.
She was sportin' team color.
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Like a varsity jacket?
Yeah.
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What school?
Marlboro. Yeah, Marlboro.
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My mom's, like, in the Dark Ages.
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If she finds out about this,
she'll, like, totally freak.
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Why don't you tell us what happened,
and we'll try to make sure
that she don't totally freak.
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Shawn's Web site said
he'd be in New York.
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I thought it'd be cool to meet him.
He's always been my favorite player.
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He's so cute.
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So you went up to his room?
He's famous.
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I've never been
with a famous person before.
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So how long were you two kickin' it?
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I hooked up with him about 10:00,
went home about 2:00.
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He even paid
for my cab fare home.
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Gee, a real gentleman, huh?
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All right. Thanks.
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I'm glad I don't have kids.
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It's a mixed bag.
They're not all like Alicia.
Some of them are worse.
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Ed. These came in while you were out.
Thanks, man.
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M.E. says the D.N.A. on the contact
wasn't Lisa Winslow.
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Could be it belonged
to the killer after all.
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Also found circumferential bruises
on her upper arms,
contusion on her left hip.
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That's consistent with being grabbed
and pushed off that balcony.
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I have a problem.
Join the club. Shawn Beatty's
alibi just got corroborated.
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Lisa Winslow's parents
are on their way here
from New Hope.
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They want to know
why they had to find out
about their daughter's death...
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from a news item on the radio.
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We told the sister.
She didn't tell the family?
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According to the parents,
Lisa Winslow doesn't have a sister.
What?
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Then who was the woman
we met at Winslow's house?
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We sent a patrol car by
to have a word with her.
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Whoever she is, she's gone,
and she took the girl with her.
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Damn.
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[Briscoe]
So you have no idea
who this woman might be?
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I'm afraid you're asking
the wrong people.
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Lisa kept us
out of her private life.
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Mr. and Mrs. Winslow, we need to
find your granddaughter now.
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She's really not our granddaughter.
We've never even met her.
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She is precious.
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We got a lot of people working on this.
There's a statewide Amber Alert.
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If you know anything
that can help, great.
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If not, we're wasting valuable time
when we should be out looking for her.
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Um...
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about eight years ago,
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Lisa told us she'd met
a woman in Florida,
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and they were gonna
adopt a child down there.
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Said they were gonna get married.
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You know, shack up together.
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Said they were in love.
Broke her mother's heart.
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After that
we didn't talk very much.
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- Maybe a card at Christmas.
- They were living in Florida?
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After they split up,
Lisa moved to New York.
That was two years ago.
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Do you know if she had any friends
in New York we could talk to?
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Anybody she might have
confided in?
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Who was that Susan girl
at NYU, Paul?
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Um, Susan Roberts, was it?
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I think they kept in touch
over the years.
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Lisa wasn't the type to
pour out her heart over cocktails.
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Do you know
if she was seeing somebody?
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As far as I know, uh,
a few dates here and there.
No one special.
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What about past relationships?
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She had an ex in Florida.
Renee something. I never met her.
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[Briscoe] I think we have.
They were living in Miami.
That's where they adopted Sophie.
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Do you have any idea
why they broke up?
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Lisa said they'd just grown apart.
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Been together something like seven years,
didn't have anything in common anymore.
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Except for Sophie.
Yeah, except Sophie.
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What I understand,
Renee was devastated by the split,
and so was Sophie.
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I told Lisa I thought
she was wrong to separate them.
Renee was Sophie's mother too.
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What did Lisa do?
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Moved to New York,
got a lawyer.
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Do you know how we can find this lawyer?
Yeah, I used her for my divorce.
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Nancy Shapiro.
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Madison and 53rd.
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Where is Sophie, by the way?
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00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,540
Who's taking care of her?
We're looking for her.
219
00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,280
Renee has her?
220
00:12:59,340 --> 00:13:02,010
Renee Bishop, still in Miami,
far as I know.
221
00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,150
Here's her contact info.
I'm gonna call the squad, get 'em on it.
222
00:13:05,210 --> 00:13:08,590
Why don't you tell me
about the custody battle?
There was none.
223
00:13:08,650 --> 00:13:11,890
Custody battles occur
when both parties have
legal custodial rights,
224
00:13:11,950 --> 00:13:14,090
which was not the case here.
225
00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,900
It's our understanding
that these two women
raised the child together.
226
00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,960
Heather Has Two Mommies.
227
00:13:20,030 --> 00:13:23,980
Florida law prohibits
homosexuals from adopting.
Lisa filed as a single woman.
228
00:13:24,030 --> 00:13:27,570
Which gave her legal custody.
Sole legal custody.
229
00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,810
So why hire you?
230
00:13:29,870 --> 00:13:33,550
To protect her interests.
Lisa didn't want Renee Bishop
in Sophie's life.
231
00:13:33,610 --> 00:13:35,550
Sophie was adjusting nicely,
232
00:13:35,610 --> 00:13:39,560
and any further contact would have
prolonged the agony of the divorce.
233
00:13:39,610 --> 00:13:42,960
Renee Bishop took
a whole lot of legal avenues
to get some kind of visitation,
234
00:13:43,020 --> 00:13:45,520
but under Florida law,
she didn't have a leg to stand on.
235
00:13:45,590 --> 00:13:48,760
Woman raises a kid for five years,
then gets cut out of her life.
236
00:13:48,820 --> 00:13:50,770
Sounds like motive to me.
237
00:13:50,830 --> 00:13:54,830
It makes me a little less worried about the girl.
At least we know her other mother
isn't gonna harm her.
238
00:13:54,900 --> 00:13:57,900
I just got off the phone
with Bishop's roommate in Miami.
239
00:13:57,970 --> 00:14:01,070
According to him,
she left for New York City
last week.
240
00:14:01,140 --> 00:14:03,480
Did he say where she was staying?
No.
241
00:14:03,540 --> 00:14:05,920
What about her cell phone?
Trace her through that?
242
00:14:05,970 --> 00:14:09,480
Doesn't have one,
but I did get the LUDS
from her home phone in Miami.
243
00:14:09,540 --> 00:14:14,580
Renee Bishop made over 50 calls
to Lisa Winslow in the last six months.
244
00:14:14,650 --> 00:14:17,490
That's a lot of calls to your ex.
Not if you're fighting over a kid.
245
00:14:17,550 --> 00:14:20,470
Lieutenant?
Yeah,. Thanks.
246
00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:25,200
Renee Bishop's credit card charges.
247
00:14:25,260 --> 00:14:28,930
She's been staying
at the Melrose Hotel all week.
248
00:14:31,670 --> 00:14:34,880
Sure. I remember this little girl.
Cute as a button. Here with her mom.
249
00:14:34,940 --> 00:14:38,610
Renee Bishop.
Bishop? Just a minute.
250
00:14:40,210 --> 00:14:43,620
Here she is. Renee Bishop.
They checked out an hour ago.
251
00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,220
Damn. We're gonna need
a record of her phone calls.
252
00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,280
I'll print one out.
253
00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,790
John, come here a minute.
Doorman might know
which way they went.
254
00:14:55,490 --> 00:14:58,200
N.Y.P.D.
They're looking for this kid
and her mom.
255
00:14:58,260 --> 00:15:02,300
Yeah, I remember them.
I put 'em on a hotel shuttle
to Port Authority.
256
00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,610
Thanks. Great.
By now they're on a bus
to God knows where.
257
00:15:05,670 --> 00:15:09,140
518. I know that area code.
It's upstate someplace, right?
258
00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:13,520
There were a couple of 518 calls
on her Florida LUDS.
259
00:15:13,570 --> 00:15:15,580
Same number.
Bloomington, New York.
260
00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,220
That's not that far.
That's, like, two hours on the thruway,
near Kingston.
261
00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,690
Call the Port Authority,
the phone company
and the state police.
262
00:15:22,750 --> 00:15:25,320
I'll drive.
263
00:15:25,390 --> 00:15:27,730
[Police Radio: Woman Speaking, indistinct]
264
00:15:30,830 --> 00:15:32,770
Sir?
265
00:15:34,100 --> 00:15:36,410
Have you seen this little girl
on the bus?
266
00:15:36,460 --> 00:15:38,710
They got off last stop,
Rosendale.
267
00:15:38,770 --> 00:15:41,110
They're not here, Ed.
I know. Let's go.
268
00:15:41,170 --> 00:15:45,020
Detective?
They were sitting behind me.
The little girl said she was hungry.
269
00:15:45,070 --> 00:15:48,080
The mother said
they would get something to eat
after they got off the bus.
270
00:15:48,140 --> 00:15:50,090
Thank you, ma'am.
I appreciate that.
271
00:15:50,140 --> 00:15:52,180
There's a pizza joint
behind the depot.
We're all over it.
272
00:15:52,250 --> 00:15:54,190
Thank you.
273
00:15:56,820 --> 00:15:59,560
[Whispering]
274
00:16:00,620 --> 00:16:03,000
Renee Bishop?
275
00:16:03,060 --> 00:16:06,470
Please. Not here.
Not in front of my little girl.
Come on, ma'am.
276
00:16:06,530 --> 00:16:09,270
Let's make this easy on everybody
Grandma, what's happening?
277
00:16:09,330 --> 00:16:11,280
Don't worry, baby.
It's okay honey
278
00:16:11,330 --> 00:16:13,740
Everything's going to be okay.
[Green] You can come too, sweetie.
279
00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,750
No!
280
00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,650
- Leave her here with me. I'll take her home.
- Sorry, ma'am. We can't do that.
281
00:16:18,710 --> 00:16:20,550
I'm her grandmother!
Ma'am, I'm sorry.
282
00:16:20,610 --> 00:16:23,820
When we get to the city,
Social Services will take
very good care of Sophie.
283
00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,790
Will I be able to see her?
Sorry ma'am. That's not up to us.
284
00:16:26,850 --> 00:16:29,850
We're gonna take a little ride.
Mommy's coming too.
What about Grandma?
285
00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:31,920
Grandma's gonna have to
stay here for now.
286
00:16:31,990 --> 00:16:35,590
You go along with those men.
I'll see you later, baby.
Bye, Grandma.
287
00:16:35,660 --> 00:16:38,360
Bye, baby.
Bye, Mom.
288
00:16:38,430 --> 00:16:41,240
Bye.
289
00:16:41,300 --> 00:16:43,240
Bye, Grandma.
290
00:16:49,270 --> 00:16:52,270
Docket 2206,
People v. Renee Bishop.
291
00:16:52,340 --> 00:16:54,680
Charge is one count kidnapping
in the second degree.
292
00:16:54,740 --> 00:16:59,620
Mr. Hobart, can we get a plea
before Valentine's Day is history?
293
00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,490
Not guilty.
People on bail?
294
00:17:02,550 --> 00:17:06,500
The People seek remand.
The defendant was fleeing with
the minor victim of the kidnapping.
295
00:17:06,550 --> 00:17:09,190
Ms. Bishop was taking her daughter
for a family visit.
296
00:17:09,260 --> 00:17:12,200
The defendant bears no legal
or familial relationship to this child.
297
00:17:12,260 --> 00:17:14,600
The People are being disingenuous.
298
00:17:14,660 --> 00:17:18,370
Wouldn't be the first time, counselor.
Defendant is remanded.
[Gavel Raps]
299
00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,510
Mr. McCoy, opposing bail?
Was that really necessary?
300
00:17:23,570 --> 00:17:26,070
Your client is charged
with kidnapping,
301
00:17:26,140 --> 00:17:29,140
implicated in Lisa Winslow's homicide.
302
00:17:29,210 --> 00:17:31,920
Do you expect us
to offer her a cup of tea?
303
00:17:31,980 --> 00:17:35,480
I was taking my daughter
to see her grandparents.
Renee, please.
304
00:17:35,550 --> 00:17:39,590
Mr. McCoy, your so-called kidnap
is a custodial disagreement.
305
00:17:39,650 --> 00:17:42,100
Parents run off with their kids
every day in divorce cases.
306
00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:46,470
There's no legally recognized
relation between your client
and Sophie Winslow.
307
00:17:46,530 --> 00:17:50,200
- She's my child.
- Not under Florida or New York statute.
308
00:17:50,260 --> 00:17:54,040
Okay, what do you say we parse
the finerpoints of family law
another day?
309
00:17:54,100 --> 00:17:57,080
We all know you would've
brought homicide charges
if you had a case.
310
00:17:57,140 --> 00:17:59,050
Since you didn't, you don't.
Not yet.
311
00:17:59,110 --> 00:18:03,210
So what are you saying?
You're leveraging a trumped-up
kidnap charge to investigate a murder?
312
00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,660
For better or worse,
Florida law gives us that authority.
313
00:18:05,710 --> 00:18:09,990
The law? The law wasn't there
when I was on the phone
with Sophie every day,
314
00:18:10,050 --> 00:18:12,550
and she was crying,
telling me how much she missed me.
315
00:18:12,620 --> 00:18:16,330
My client was going to be in New York
to visit her parents.
316
00:18:16,390 --> 00:18:20,930
She spoke to Ms. Winslow
a couple of weeks ago to see if something
couldn't be worked out, for Sophie's sake.
317
00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,240
Ms. Winslow agreed
my client could see Sophie.
318
00:18:24,300 --> 00:18:27,140
Sophie didn't have school that day,
319
00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,980
so we decided to have lunch
at their house.
320
00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,350
When Ms. Bishop got to the house
that morning, per agreement,
she had no idea what had happened.
321
00:18:33,410 --> 00:18:37,180
But after she talked to the police,
she grabbed Sophie and ran off.
322
00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,280
An understandable panic response.
323
00:18:39,350 --> 00:18:42,660
When the police told her what had happened
to Lisa, she was terrified she'd never
get to see Sophie again.
324
00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,720
You can imagine, Mr. McCoy,
how I felt.
325
00:18:45,790 --> 00:18:48,770
I can also imagine that you
were so angry at Lisa Winslow.
326
00:18:48,820 --> 00:18:51,300
for taking Sophie away from you...
327
00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:55,710
that you threw her off a balcony
in a rage.
328
00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,870
Renee Bishop just happens to be in town
the day Lisa Winslow's murdered?
329
00:18:59,930 --> 00:19:01,880
Never been a big fan
of coincidence.
330
00:19:01,940 --> 00:19:04,280
And given Renee Bishop's
account of the facts,
331
00:19:04,340 --> 00:19:06,980
I don't even know if a jury
will see this as a kidnapping.
332
00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,510
And I don't care,
given the fact that Ms. Bishop
is probably also a murderer...
333
00:19:10,580 --> 00:19:12,520
and the kidnap charge
lets us hold her.
334
00:19:12,580 --> 00:19:16,690
Besides, Serena, the Florida statute
is not some technicality.
335
00:19:16,750 --> 00:19:19,390
It's the law.
Florida's in the minority, sir.
336
00:19:19,450 --> 00:19:24,130
- Is it?
- Most states permit some form
of gay adoption, including New York.
337
00:19:24,190 --> 00:19:26,870
They don't specifically
prohibit it, you mean.
338
00:19:26,930 --> 00:19:29,410
Pusillanimous
âdon't ask, don't tell" policies.
339
00:19:29,460 --> 00:19:32,410
Hardly a ringing endorsement
of the underlying question,
340
00:19:32,470 --> 00:19:35,310
which makes a lot of folks queasy.
341
00:19:35,370 --> 00:19:39,840
Now, tell me, how are we gonna
go about making out a homicide case
against this Bishop woman?
342
00:19:39,910 --> 00:19:43,150
Everything about Lisa Winslow
screams type-A-plus personality.
343
00:19:43,210 --> 00:19:45,160
Olympic athlete,
Phi Beta at Brown.
344
00:19:45,210 --> 00:19:48,090
Well, New York's full of ambitious women.
What are you thinking?
345
00:19:48,150 --> 00:19:52,030
Renee Bishop said that she arranged
to meet Lisa and Sophie at their home.
346
00:19:52,090 --> 00:19:54,570
You think she's lying?
347
00:19:54,620 --> 00:19:57,300
I think that Lisa Winslow
would sooner cut off her little finger...
348
00:19:57,360 --> 00:20:01,700
than take time out of her busy schedule
in the middle of a business day.
349
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,270
The 25th?
Oh, you mean the day after.
350
00:20:05,330 --> 00:20:08,970
All I see here are
back-to-back-to-back meetings.
351
00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,880
No mention
of going home for lunch?
352
00:20:11,940 --> 00:20:16,180
At 11:45, she was going
to pitch her services
to the GenTech Corporation.
353
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,520
Is there any possibility
she canceled?
354
00:20:18,580 --> 00:20:20,920
Blow off a potential
Fortune 500 account?
355
00:20:20,980 --> 00:20:23,720
Do you have any idea how long
it took her to get that contact?
356
00:20:23,780 --> 00:20:26,860
I'm gonna need the number
for GenTech.
357
00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,930
The C.E.O. of GenTech
told me that Lisa Winslow
never canceled her appointment
358
00:20:31,990 --> 00:20:35,340
She even confirmed it the day before.
Strike one on Bishop.
359
00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,970
Lisa never made plans
with Renee for lunch
or for anything else.
360
00:20:39,030 --> 00:20:41,880
Tell Jack, but you better count to 10 first.
361
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,710
I've already told you, Mrs. Bishop.
I can't discuss the case with you.
362
00:20:47,780 --> 00:20:52,120
I'm terrified of losing my daughter.
Please don't take my granddaughter too.
363
00:20:52,180 --> 00:20:56,220
Ultimately, it's not up to me.
Whatever's deemed best
for the child.
364
00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:00,890
What's best for Sophie
is to be with her mother, or us.
365
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,460
My husband and I,
we're her family, Mr. McCoy.
366
00:21:04,530 --> 00:21:07,230
If Renee has to go to jail,
we'd adopt her.
367
00:21:07,290 --> 00:21:10,870
We love her.
It took a while with Frank.
He's old-fashioned.
368
00:21:10,930 --> 00:21:12,930
But when he saw
those blue eyes--
369
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,240
Mrs. Bishop.
370
00:21:15,300 --> 00:21:19,250
You can't send her
to the Winslows, Mr. McCoy
371
00:21:19,310 --> 00:21:21,310
They've never even
seen Sophie.
372
00:21:21,380 --> 00:21:25,120
They've never sent her
so much as a birthday card.
373
00:21:25,180 --> 00:21:29,820
And now she's with Social Services,
and they won't let me see her.
374
00:21:33,050 --> 00:21:35,000
I can't make any promises.
375
00:21:35,060 --> 00:21:40,300
Anything you can do for us,
Mr. McCoy, please.
376
00:21:46,300 --> 00:21:49,910
All of the calls originated
from Renee's phone in Florida.
377
00:21:49,970 --> 00:21:53,040
There wasn't one
returned phone call
from Lisa Winslow.
378
00:21:53,110 --> 00:21:55,780
She's harassing her.
But look at the time frame, Jack.
379
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,150
All of the calls were
between 3:00 and 5:00 p.m.
380
00:21:59,210 --> 00:22:02,220
After school, but before
the end of the work day.
381
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,660
Renee talked to Sophie,
never to Lisa.
382
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,170
The calls stopped two months ago.
383
00:22:08,220 --> 00:22:12,830
Lisa finds out that Renee's
talking to Sophie, puts an end to it
and cuts off all contact between them.
384
00:22:12,890 --> 00:22:15,400
And that pushes Renee
over the edge.
385
00:22:15,460 --> 00:22:17,910
She comes to New York
and returns the favor, literally.
386
00:22:17,970 --> 00:22:21,040
If you can confirm that,
we're looking at a homicide charge.
387
00:22:21,100 --> 00:22:24,280
I'll talk to the nanny.
Go straight to the source.
388
00:22:24,340 --> 00:22:26,280
Sophie.
389
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,250
[Southerlyn]
Where'd you get your bunny?
390
00:22:31,310 --> 00:22:33,790
Mommy Renee gave it to me.
391
00:22:33,850 --> 00:22:36,020
She's a cutie-pie.
392
00:22:37,380 --> 00:22:41,260
Did you and Mommy Renee ever talk
after you and Mommy Lisa
moved to New York?
393
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,570
I'm not supposed to say.
394
00:22:46,290 --> 00:22:50,740
I have a secret too. You want to hear it?
Yeah.
395
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,640
When I was seven,
396
00:22:53,700 --> 00:22:56,440
I put soap
on my little brother's toothbrush.
397
00:22:56,500 --> 00:22:58,610
Gross!
398
00:22:58,670 --> 00:23:01,020
Did you get a time-out?
399
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,520
I sure did.
Me too.
400
00:23:03,580 --> 00:23:07,390
When Mommy Lisa found out
that you were talking to Mommy Renee?
401
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,630
She got mad.
402
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,790
What did Mommy Renee say, honey?
403
00:23:13,850 --> 00:23:17,530
She said not to tell anyone.
404
00:23:17,590 --> 00:23:20,230
You're not going to tell, right?
405
00:23:20,290 --> 00:23:23,570
No, darling, I won't tell.
406
00:23:23,630 --> 00:23:26,740
Grandma?
407
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,750
Grandma! Grandma!
408
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,800
Hey, baby!
[Sniffles]
409
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,250
Tell Mr. McCoy--
410
00:23:35,310 --> 00:23:38,090
Tell him thank you.
411
00:23:38,150 --> 00:23:40,420
Grandma?
412
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,490
Can you take me home now?
413
00:23:45,650 --> 00:23:49,160
I'd rather observe an autopsy
than go through that again.
414
00:23:49,220 --> 00:23:53,230
And Sophie Winslow kept the calls
secret from her mother?
[Phone Ringing]
415
00:23:53,290 --> 00:23:56,870
I have assistants in this office
that don't show that kind
of self-restraint.
416
00:23:56,930 --> 00:24:00,610
Mr. Branch's office.
Your theory's right, Jack, it's murder two.
417
00:24:00,670 --> 00:24:03,810
Felony homicide.
Renee Bishop intentionally
killed Lisa Winslow...
418
00:24:03,870 --> 00:24:06,150
in furtherance of the kidnapping.
419
00:24:06,210 --> 00:24:08,880
The theory's beginning
to look a lot more like fact.
420
00:24:08,940 --> 00:24:12,120
M.E. just confirmed
that Renee Bishop's D.N.A.
was on the contact lens.
421
00:24:12,180 --> 00:24:15,590
She was there.
Game, set, match.
422
00:24:15,650 --> 00:24:18,220
Before you go jumpin' the net,
we've got the child to consider.
423
00:24:18,290 --> 00:24:23,130
See if Mr. Hobart grasps the wisdom of a plea
under the present circumstances.
424
00:24:26,430 --> 00:24:28,600
The D.N.A. evidence
is incontrovertible.
425
00:24:28,660 --> 00:24:30,610
Not a word.
426
00:24:30,660 --> 00:24:33,770
We'll be amending the indictment
to include murder in the second degree.
427
00:24:33,830 --> 00:24:36,340
That's absurd. It was self-defense.
Ms. Winslow was drunk.
428
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,510
She attacked my client.
They struggled.
429
00:24:38,570 --> 00:24:41,180
Save it, Mr. Hobart.
The facts say otherwise.
430
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,220
She pleads to the top count,
we won't oppose the minimum sentence.
431
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,920
How long is that?
432
00:24:46,980 --> 00:24:51,560
Sophie will be in college
before you're eligible for parole.
433
00:24:51,620 --> 00:24:55,730
I can't do that.
Who'll take care of her?
The Winslows?
434
00:24:55,790 --> 00:24:59,130
They don't even want her.
Some foster home?
435
00:24:59,190 --> 00:25:01,830
She won't grow up without me.
436
00:25:01,900 --> 00:25:06,140
Win, lose or draw, Ms. Bishop,
you'll never have custodial rights.
437
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,510
Not necessarily.
We've retained local counsel in Florida.
438
00:25:09,570 --> 00:25:12,070
He filed suit this morning
on Ms. Bishop's behalf,
439
00:25:12,140 --> 00:25:15,590
challenging the constitutionality
of the Florida law barring gays
from adopting.
440
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,850
The Florida statute has nothing to do
with the charges against your client.
441
00:25:19,910 --> 00:25:23,360
It has everything to do with them.
If Ms. Bishop is acquitted
and if we prevail in Florida--
442
00:25:23,420 --> 00:25:27,870
You win the criminal case
and overturn the Florida statute.
Ms. Bishop can sue for custody of Sophie.
443
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,390
[Hobart] At least she has a chance.
If she takes a plea, she's a convicted felon,
an unfit parent.
444
00:25:31,460 --> 00:25:35,240
Any decision in Florida is years away.
Things are moving fast.
445
00:25:35,300 --> 00:25:39,040
Look at the Massachusetts case
on gay marriage.
It's only a matter of time.
446
00:25:39,100 --> 00:25:43,050
You're being given dangerous advice,
Ms. Bishop.
447
00:25:43,100 --> 00:25:47,050
You'll lose both cases.
You'll lose everything.
Take the plea.
448
00:25:47,110 --> 00:25:49,050
No.
449
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,080
I can't.
450
00:25:53,150 --> 00:25:55,150
I have no choice.
451
00:26:00,020 --> 00:26:04,470
Renee Bishop doesn't stand
a snowï¬ake's chance in hades
of winning in the Florida courts.
452
00:26:04,530 --> 00:26:09,200
The Massachusetts Supreme Court
ruled that the law against gay marriage
is unconstitutional.
453
00:26:09,260 --> 00:26:13,040
That's Massachusetts.
We're talkin' about Florida--
why we have states.
454
00:26:13,100 --> 00:26:16,210
Different states will draw the line
at different places on this issue.
455
00:26:16,270 --> 00:26:20,280
Just where
we were going with abortion
before Roe v. Wade.
456
00:26:20,340 --> 00:26:24,580
Old states' rights proponent like you,
I'm surprised you oppose gay marriage.
457
00:26:24,650 --> 00:26:27,630
But I don't.
Don't necessarily approve of it either.
458
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,460
As far as I'm concerned,
it's none of my business,
or the federal government's.
459
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,050
I can't believe we're on
the same side of this.
460
00:26:34,490 --> 00:26:36,990
I may have to reconsider my position.
[Knocking]
461
00:26:42,130 --> 00:26:46,640
Hobart's moving to dismiss
the kidnapping charge
against Renee Bishop.
462
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,180
âThe Florida law barring gay adoption
being unconstitutional,
463
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,880
âthere is a parent-child relationship
between Renee Bishop and Sophie Winslow.
464
00:26:56,940 --> 00:26:59,860
Therefore, the New York
kidnap charge is invalid."
465
00:26:59,910 --> 00:27:01,860
A mother can't kidnap
her own child.
466
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,590
Kidnap charge goes,
proof of Renee's intent to kill
goes with it.
467
00:27:05,650 --> 00:27:07,600
The murder count is undermined.
468
00:27:07,650 --> 00:27:10,860
We still have motive.
One spouse kills another
over a child.
469
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,870
It happens every day
470
00:27:12,930 --> 00:27:15,070
On the other hand,
if Hobart wins the motion--
471
00:27:15,130 --> 00:27:17,510
He argues they
just had a heated discussion
that got out of hand.
472
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,440
It becomes âshe said she said â
The odds of a conviction
drop to 50-50.
473
00:27:21,500 --> 00:27:25,510
Good luck to him
sailing that past Judge Bradley.
474
00:27:28,980 --> 00:27:33,120
Judge, the probability
that the defendant will prevail
in Florida is infinitesimal
475
00:27:33,180 --> 00:27:38,100
New York law controls here.
Ms. Bishop had no authority
to take the child.
476
00:27:38,150 --> 00:27:41,570
Ethnically, morally,
Renee Bishop had every right
to take Sophie.
477
00:27:41,620 --> 00:27:46,400
The fact that she is a gay woman
should not have been dispositive
of her rights in Florida or New York.
478
00:27:46,460 --> 00:27:49,600
I don't give a damn
who sleeps with who, counselor.
479
00:27:49,660 --> 00:27:53,340
I sure as hell don't care about
some backward, redneck statute.
480
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,400
I see this more along the lines
of a family dispute.
481
00:27:56,470 --> 00:27:59,420
Renee Bishop is emphatically not family.
Catch-22.
482
00:27:59,470 --> 00:28:03,250
Florida law won't allow gays to marry,
and then it says they can't adopt
because they're not a family.
483
00:28:03,310 --> 00:28:05,260
He's bootstrapping, Judge.
484
00:28:05,310 --> 00:28:08,560
The defendant is the mother
because she might overturn a law...
485
00:28:08,620 --> 00:28:10,560
that bars her from being the mother.
486
00:28:10,620 --> 00:28:14,060
You're putting the mule
before the cart's even built, Mr. Hobart.
487
00:28:14,120 --> 00:28:17,630
That's an issue for the Florida courts
to decide some day,
488
00:28:17,690 --> 00:28:20,970
Till then, the parties have
a trial to prepare for.
489
00:28:21,030 --> 00:28:24,310
- Motion to dismiss is denied.
- Judge, if I may?
490
00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:26,340
Make it quick, Mr. Hobart.
491
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,310
Sophie Winslow--
I've decided to call her as a witness.
492
00:28:29,370 --> 00:28:31,610
At what cost to Sophie?
493
00:28:33,140 --> 00:28:36,490
I am disinclined to allow it, Mr. Hobart.
494
00:28:36,540 --> 00:28:39,890
In her own mind, Renee Bishop
was acting to protect her family.
495
00:28:39,950 --> 00:28:43,990
The child can establish
the familial relationship,
at least in Renee's mind, existed.
496
00:28:44,050 --> 00:28:47,830
Novel theory.
[McCoy] Judge, it's an unnecessary
burden for the child...
497
00:28:47,890 --> 00:28:50,490
and a naked attempt
to appeal to the jury's emotions.
498
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,940
Of which you are never guilty,
Mr. McCoy.
499
00:28:53,990 --> 00:28:56,670
The child can testify
for the defense,
500
00:28:56,730 --> 00:29:00,840
but I will cut you off in a heartbeat
if I see her in trouble, Mr. Hobart.
501
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,940
The deceased weighed 137 pounds.
502
00:29:08,010 --> 00:29:11,460
Had she simply fallen,
her trajectory would have put her here,
503
00:29:11,510 --> 00:29:13,690
on this lower rooftop.
504
00:29:13,750 --> 00:29:16,730
How do you account for where
the body was actually found?
505
00:29:16,780 --> 00:29:21,790
To reach this point
where her body was recovered,
she had to have been pushed, hard.
506
00:29:21,860 --> 00:29:24,770
Additionally, there were bruises
to her arms and hip...
507
00:29:24,830 --> 00:29:28,170
consistent with being grabbed
and hurled with some force...
508
00:29:28,230 --> 00:29:30,670
over the balcony guardrail
509
00:29:30,730 --> 00:29:32,680
Nothing further.
510
00:29:36,300 --> 00:29:38,720
What was Ms. Winslow's
blood alcohol again?
511
00:29:38,770 --> 00:29:40,840
1.2.
512
00:29:40,910 --> 00:29:43,390
That's intoxicated, isn't it?
Yes.
513
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,480
Well over the legal limit,
in fact?
514
00:29:45,550 --> 00:29:47,490
It affects different individuals
differently.
515
00:29:47,550 --> 00:29:52,050
There are a lot of factors:
body weight, stomach content,
uh, tolerance to alcohol.
516
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,530
Are you familiar with the term,
"falling down drunk"?
517
00:29:54,590 --> 00:29:58,330
- Objection.
- Sustained. Rephrase or move on, counselor.
518
00:29:58,390 --> 00:30:03,400
Hypothetically, had Ms. Winslow,
intoxicated as she was,
519
00:30:03,460 --> 00:30:06,270
come at Renee Bishop,
520
00:30:06,330 --> 00:30:08,510
isn't it possible that Renee Bishop,
521
00:30:08,570 --> 00:30:11,570
in an act of self-defense,
adrenaline pumping,
522
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,680
could have deflected
Lisa Winslow's attack,
523
00:30:15,740 --> 00:30:18,620
propelling her to the point
where her body was found?
524
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,890
Not the way I read the evidence.
525
00:30:20,950 --> 00:30:23,190
But is it possible, hypothetically?
526
00:30:23,250 --> 00:30:25,860
Anything's possible.
527
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,420
[Judge Bradley]
Redirect, Mr. McCoy?
528
00:30:30,020 --> 00:30:33,530
Nothing, Your Honor.
The People rest.
529
00:30:35,630 --> 00:30:38,040
I'm in first grade.
530
00:30:38,100 --> 00:30:40,340
Last year I was in kindergarten.
531
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,780
When you were in preschool in Florida,
who got you ready in the morning
and who took you to school?
532
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,910
Mommy Renee.
533
00:30:47,970 --> 00:30:50,420
And who picked you up from school?
Mommy Renee.
534
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,050
And Mommy Lisa,
did she ever take you to school?
535
00:30:53,110 --> 00:30:55,060
She had to work.
536
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,960
What about when you
got home from school?
What did you do?
537
00:30:58,020 --> 00:31:02,330
Sometimes we went to the park,
538
00:31:02,390 --> 00:31:06,630
or we had a tickle fight,
or we played dress-up.
539
00:31:06,690 --> 00:31:10,610
- We? Who do you mean, honey?
- Me and Mommy Renee.
540
00:31:10,660 --> 00:31:14,010
Your Honor, we get the picture.
541
00:31:14,070 --> 00:31:18,070
Ms. Bishop was the primary caregiver,
Ms. Winslow the breadwinner.
542
00:31:18,140 --> 00:31:21,980
A rather traditional arrangement
we're all familiar with.
Wrap it up, counselor
543
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,510
Thank you, Sophie. You did great.
Thanks.
544
00:31:26,580 --> 00:31:29,930
Hi, Sophie
Hi.
545
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,520
You love Mommy Renee, don't you?
Yes.
546
00:31:34,590 --> 00:31:38,300
- How 'bout Mommy Lisa?
- I love her too.
547
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,470
- You miss her?
- A lot. She's on a trip.
548
00:31:44,530 --> 00:31:49,380
When Mommy Renee called you
just before she came to visit--
Do you remember that?
549
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,350
Yes.
Did she ask you
where Mommy Lisa was?
550
00:31:53,410 --> 00:31:56,950
I told her she was at the hotel
giving a speech.
551
00:31:57,010 --> 00:31:58,960
It's her work.
552
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:08,060
Thank you, Sophie.
Mommy Lisa's going to come home soon.
553
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,000
She's going to come and get me.
554
00:32:18,530 --> 00:32:21,840
When I came out in high school,
555
00:32:21,900 --> 00:32:26,580
my father told me that
there was nothing I could do that would
ever make him stop loving me.
556
00:32:27,570 --> 00:32:32,350
But even with my parents'
love and support,
I felt completely alienated.
557
00:32:32,410 --> 00:32:35,880
I knew that I would
never get married,
558
00:32:35,950 --> 00:32:38,020
have children...
559
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,620
or all the things
that straight people
take for granted.
560
00:32:40,690 --> 00:32:43,100
Continuing objection
to this line of questioning.
561
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,570
Get to the heart of the matter, counselor.
562
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:52,140
- What happened
when you met Lisa Winslow?
- We fell in love.
563
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,540
I wanted to make a life with her.
564
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,450
And when we adopted Sophie,
it seemed complete.
565
00:32:57,500 --> 00:32:59,450
[Hobart] We?
I mean Lisa.
566
00:32:59,510 --> 00:33:02,510
In Florida, gay people can't adopt,
567
00:33:02,580 --> 00:33:05,180
so to get around the law,
568
00:33:05,250 --> 00:33:08,250
Lisa adopted Sophie
as a single parent.
569
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,760
She made a lot more money
than I did.
570
00:33:10,820 --> 00:33:14,560
She was a stronger applicant,
and it just--
571
00:33:14,620 --> 00:33:16,760
it just made sense.
572
00:33:16,820 --> 00:33:20,270
- She said it was a formality.
- Because of the Florida law.
573
00:33:20,330 --> 00:33:25,210
- Tell us about your family life.
- Your Honor, Sophie Winslow
has already testified about this.
574
00:33:25,270 --> 00:33:27,440
[judge Bradley]
Sustained. Move on, Mr. Hobart.
575
00:33:27,500 --> 00:33:29,610
- Why did your marriage break up?
- Your Honor!
576
00:33:29,670 --> 00:33:32,050
Withdrawn.
Why did you and Lisa split up?
577
00:33:32,110 --> 00:33:34,920
Lisa left me.
578
00:33:34,980 --> 00:33:37,290
She met someone else.
579
00:33:37,340 --> 00:33:39,920
I got a lawyer, but he told me
there was nothing I could do.
580
00:33:39,980 --> 00:33:41,930
I lost everything.
581
00:33:44,020 --> 00:33:46,830
Renee, why did you go
to the hotel?
582
00:33:46,890 --> 00:33:50,130
I went to the hotel to talk to Lisa,
to find some way to reach her,
583
00:33:50,190 --> 00:33:52,140
to do what was best for Sophie.
584
00:33:52,190 --> 00:33:55,440
But Lisa was drunk and abusive.
585
00:33:55,500 --> 00:33:59,340
She told me that she would never
let me back into Sophie's life.
586
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,810
She said that Sophie
was starting to forget me.
587
00:34:01,870 --> 00:34:06,250
[Hobart]
What happened then after she told you
that you could never see Sophie again?
588
00:34:06,310 --> 00:34:09,150
I felt sick!
589
00:34:09,210 --> 00:34:12,020
I just went out onto the balcony
to get some air.
590
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,990
I guess she followed me out there.
She was yelling.
591
00:34:15,050 --> 00:34:18,390
She was slurring her words,
the way she always did
when she got drunk.
592
00:34:18,450 --> 00:34:21,430
She was pushing at me,
and she's a lot stronger than I am,
593
00:34:21,490 --> 00:34:23,830
and she's bigger,
and I was just scared.
594
00:34:23,890 --> 00:34:26,730
I guess I just must have
pushed her back...
595
00:34:26,790 --> 00:34:31,370
because then she just lost her balance
and she-she fell.
596
00:34:34,170 --> 00:34:37,150
Did Ms. Winslow invite you
to her hotel?
597
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,980
No.
Did she even know
you were in New York?
598
00:34:41,170 --> 00:34:43,120
I don't know.
599
00:34:43,180 --> 00:34:46,180
In actuality, you went to her hotel
and ambushed her.
600
00:34:46,250 --> 00:34:48,990
No, I went to her hotel
to talk to her, period.
601
00:34:49,050 --> 00:34:53,520
When you got to her hotel,
you attacked her
and pushed her to her death.
602
00:34:53,590 --> 00:34:56,930
I didn't. She attacked me.
603
00:34:56,990 --> 00:34:59,530
She fell.
It was an accident.
604
00:34:59,590 --> 00:35:02,540
You didn't call 911
for an ambulance or the police.
605
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,740
You abducted her child
and got on a bus!
606
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,580
My child.
607
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,640
Our child.
608
00:35:12,770 --> 00:35:15,010
I just did
what any parent would do.
609
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,320
You took Sophie and ran!
Yes or no?
610
00:35:18,380 --> 00:35:21,220
How could I abduct my own child?
611
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:26,090
If anybody is guilty
of kidnapping, it was Lisa.
612
00:35:44,170 --> 00:35:46,880
Can I get a pint, please, Marty?
613
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,950
You got any kids, McCoy?
What difference does that make?
614
00:35:54,010 --> 00:35:56,690
If somebody tried to take them,
what would you do?
615
00:35:56,750 --> 00:36:00,250
Fight like hell, within the strictures
of the law.
616
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,320
That's easy for you to say.
The laws are all on your side.
617
00:36:03,390 --> 00:36:07,030
Even divorced, you don't lose
your status as a father.
618
00:36:07,090 --> 00:36:10,300
A crackhead who sells his daughter for $10
has a chance of getting her back.
619
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,310
Renee had nothing.
620
00:36:12,370 --> 00:36:17,540
Should Renee Bishop be able
to adopt a child with her lover,
get married, raise a family?
621
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,740
Questions for other courts
on other days, Mr. Hobart.
622
00:36:20,810 --> 00:36:24,220
That day is coming... soon.
623
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,950
Offer stands.
She can shave 10 years
off her sentence.
624
00:36:29,020 --> 00:36:31,190
She won't go for it.
625
00:36:31,250 --> 00:36:34,060
She'll try anything
to stay in her daughter's life.
626
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:38,930
You're banking on the hope
there's a gay person on that jury.
627
00:36:40,290 --> 00:36:42,640
I'm banking there's a parent.
628
00:36:50,740 --> 00:36:54,740
This isn't about gay or straight.
This isn't even about murder.
629
00:36:54,810 --> 00:36:56,810
There was no murder here.
630
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,020
This is about a tragic accident...
631
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,220
arising from a tragic situation...
632
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,660
created by an unfeeling partner
and an unfair law.
633
00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:11,600
Most of all,
this is about a parent, a mother...
634
00:37:11,660 --> 00:37:14,730
whose child was taken from her.
635
00:37:14,790 --> 00:37:18,170
Renee Bishop didn't come to New York
to kill Lisa Winslow.
636
00:37:18,230 --> 00:37:20,640
She came to talk to her,
to reason with her,
637
00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:22,650
to plead with her.
638
00:37:22,700 --> 00:37:26,050
She came to see her daughter,
their daughter
639
00:37:26,110 --> 00:37:29,710
But Lisa Winslow
didn't want to talk or listen.
640
00:37:29,780 --> 00:37:32,350
She was drunk and angry.
641
00:37:32,410 --> 00:37:34,550
She attacked Renee Bishop.
642
00:37:34,610 --> 00:37:36,960
Renee Bishop did not act
except in defense...
643
00:37:37,020 --> 00:37:39,620
of herself and of her child.
644
00:37:39,690 --> 00:37:41,630
Make no mistake.
645
00:37:41,690 --> 00:37:44,530
There was no crime.
646
00:37:44,590 --> 00:37:47,440
No murder on the balcony
that night.
647
00:37:47,490 --> 00:37:49,870
Only a tragedy
648
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,010
Of course, Renee Bishop
is Sophie Winslow's mother...
649
00:38:00,070 --> 00:38:03,710
in every sense of the word
that matters,
650
00:38:03,780 --> 00:38:07,730
but so was Lisa Winslow.
651
00:38:07,780 --> 00:38:12,790
And what kind of parent kills
her child's other parent?
652
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,930
Mr. Hobart reminds you
of the bond...
653
00:38:18,990 --> 00:38:21,940
between Renee Bishop
and Sophie Winslow,
654
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,670
but he wants you
to forget the bond.
655
00:38:24,730 --> 00:38:26,900
Between Sophie and Lisa,
656
00:38:26,970 --> 00:38:31,070
the woman who adopted her
and loved her...
657
00:38:31,140 --> 00:38:34,550
as much as Renee Bishop does.
658
00:38:34,610 --> 00:38:37,110
This case is not about
who's the better mother...
659
00:38:37,180 --> 00:38:39,250
or about a law.
660
00:38:39,310 --> 00:38:43,280
which may well be antiquated
and unfair.
661
00:38:43,350 --> 00:38:47,020
It's not about
what Renee Bishop suffered,
662
00:38:49,490 --> 00:38:52,730
but about what Renee Bishop did.
663
00:38:54,260 --> 00:38:58,440
And what she did
was kill Lisa Winslow,
664
00:38:59,900 --> 00:39:03,570
and that law which she violated...
665
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,640
is as sure and certain...
666
00:39:07,710 --> 00:39:10,310
as the evidence...
667
00:39:10,380 --> 00:39:12,380
is conclusive!
668
00:39:15,620 --> 00:39:19,290
As much as you might
empathize with her plight,
669
00:39:21,020 --> 00:39:24,940
you must return a verdict of guilty
against Renee Bishop.
670
00:39:36,470 --> 00:39:39,140
As to the first count
of the indictment,
671
00:39:39,210 --> 00:39:42,350
murder in the second degree,
how do you find?
672
00:39:42,410 --> 00:39:45,650
We find the defendant, Renee Bishop,
guilty as charged.
673
00:39:45,710 --> 00:39:48,420
[Gasping]
As to the second count,
674
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,690
kidnapping
in the second degree?
675
00:39:50,750 --> 00:39:53,530
We find the defendant
guilty as charged.
676
00:39:53,590 --> 00:39:57,690
The jury is dismissed
with the thanks of the court.
Short date for sentence.
677
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,700
[Gavel Raps]
678
00:40:05,730 --> 00:40:08,080
Come on, ma'am.
Let's go.
679
00:40:16,380 --> 00:40:20,380
You win some, you win some.
I'm comfortable with the outcome.
680
00:40:20,450 --> 00:40:23,890
Which would have been the same
if they'd been heterosexual.
681
00:40:23,950 --> 00:40:27,230
But would any of this have happened
if they'd been allowed to adopt
as a married couple?
682
00:40:27,290 --> 00:40:31,060
They knew the law in Florida.
If they didn't like it, they could have
moved to another state.
683
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,630
I knew we weren't
on the same side of this.
684
00:40:33,690 --> 00:40:36,040
I say, let them marry.
685
00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:39,440
Why shouldn't they be
as miserable as the rest of us?
686
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,220
[Howling]
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