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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,151 --> 00:00:16,058 ♪♪ 2 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:23,031 ♪♪ 3 00:00:54,298 --> 00:01:02,904 ♪♪ 4 00:01:03,006 --> 00:01:06,041 Man: This is one of the most, if not the most, heinous, 5 00:01:06,143 --> 00:01:09,077 Atrocious, and cruel case that I've been involved with 6 00:01:09,179 --> 00:01:12,647 In my 24 years as a district attorney. 7 00:01:27,197 --> 00:01:33,168 ♪♪ 8 00:01:38,509 --> 00:01:40,675 Man: There's a thing inside of me, it's like... 9 00:01:40,777 --> 00:01:42,878 The appetite. 10 00:01:42,980 --> 00:01:44,746 It's like a wolf that's... 11 00:01:44,848 --> 00:01:48,550 Filling...The hunger. 12 00:01:48,652 --> 00:01:52,521 ♪♪ 13 00:01:52,623 --> 00:02:00,495 ♪♪ 14 00:02:00,597 --> 00:02:09,171 ♪♪ 15 00:02:09,273 --> 00:02:13,275 ♪♪ 16 00:02:58,222 --> 00:03:05,460 ♪♪ 17 00:03:05,562 --> 00:03:13,001 ♪♪ 18 00:03:13,103 --> 00:03:19,808 ♪♪ 19 00:03:19,910 --> 00:03:21,643 Woman: Friends described lisa underwood as 20 00:03:21,745 --> 00:03:24,112 A super responsible mom and businesswoman. 21 00:03:24,214 --> 00:03:25,914 She lives with her seven-year-old son, jayden, 22 00:03:26,016 --> 00:03:27,215 In north fort worth. 23 00:03:27,317 --> 00:03:29,117 We called hospitals before we called 24 00:03:29,219 --> 00:03:30,885 The police because she is seven months pregnant. 25 00:03:32,256 --> 00:03:35,190 Woman: Lisa's 2002 dodge durango is also missing. 26 00:03:35,292 --> 00:03:40,195 ♪♪ 27 00:03:40,297 --> 00:03:45,567 ♪♪ 28 00:03:45,669 --> 00:03:48,570 We are talking to a number of people, 29 00:03:48,672 --> 00:03:52,274 Many of which are very close to miss underwood. 30 00:03:52,376 --> 00:04:00,282 ♪♪ 31 00:04:07,491 --> 00:04:15,196 ♪♪ 32 00:04:15,299 --> 00:04:21,603 ♪♪ 33 00:04:47,064 --> 00:04:51,199 Someone laughing while his ex-girlfriend is missing might 34 00:04:51,301 --> 00:04:54,869 Feel really cold and callous and unemotional. 35 00:05:00,077 --> 00:05:03,211 Tussey: It's really striking that he's comparing women to 36 00:05:03,313 --> 00:05:06,581 A buffet line when he's being investigated for a potential 37 00:05:06,683 --> 00:05:08,183 Double homicide. 38 00:05:08,285 --> 00:05:09,884 He objectifies them. 39 00:05:09,986 --> 00:05:12,020 He describes them as something to be 40 00:05:12,122 --> 00:05:14,022 Consumed cheaply. 41 00:05:25,001 --> 00:05:29,771 So he was married, and he was having an affair with lisa, 42 00:05:29,873 --> 00:05:32,040 But just lying doesn't make you a psychopath. 43 00:05:32,142 --> 00:05:33,041 It makes you a liar. 44 00:05:33,143 --> 00:05:41,249 ♪♪ 45 00:05:55,198 --> 00:06:04,973 ♪♪ 46 00:06:05,075 --> 00:06:10,712 ♪♪ 47 00:06:54,591 --> 00:06:57,325 Tussey: One of the trades of psychopathy is grandiosity, 48 00:06:57,427 --> 00:06:59,861 And it seems he perceives himself to be 49 00:06:59,963 --> 00:07:01,663 Intellectually superior 50 00:07:01,765 --> 00:07:04,399 And can maybe get around whatever it is 51 00:07:04,501 --> 00:07:05,633 They're trying to get at. 52 00:07:27,424 --> 00:07:35,964 ♪♪ 53 00:07:59,422 --> 00:08:01,089 Woman: Dodd said he got a call from barbee 54 00:08:01,191 --> 00:08:02,457 Saying he'd run out of gas. 55 00:08:02,559 --> 00:08:05,560 Dodd took the gas to barbee on farm road 407. 56 00:08:05,662 --> 00:08:06,895 He said once there, 57 00:08:06,997 --> 00:08:09,664 Barbee opened the back of a blue suv, and that dodd saw 58 00:08:09,766 --> 00:08:13,835 The bodies of a woman and child in the back. 59 00:08:13,937 --> 00:08:18,139 ♪♪ 60 00:08:43,366 --> 00:08:46,868 They're letting him know they think he killed her. 61 00:08:46,970 --> 00:08:50,438 And for someone to go, well, that's very upsetting, 62 00:08:50,540 --> 00:08:52,006 Or that upsets me... 63 00:08:54,511 --> 00:08:56,344 It could be a sign of shallow affect. 64 00:08:56,446 --> 00:08:58,646 If it's something quite serious, like a murder, 65 00:08:58,748 --> 00:09:02,550 We would expect to see a greater expression of 66 00:09:02,652 --> 00:09:04,118 Anger or sadness. 67 00:09:12,362 --> 00:09:16,931 ♪♪ 68 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,947 ♪♪ 69 00:10:06,049 --> 00:10:07,582 [ blows nose loudly ] 70 00:10:07,684 --> 00:10:11,919 ♪♪ 71 00:10:16,059 --> 00:10:18,026 [ sniffles ] 72 00:10:18,128 --> 00:10:22,363 She had broken ribs, um, and lots 73 00:10:22,465 --> 00:10:24,432 Of damage to and around her face, 74 00:10:24,534 --> 00:10:26,367 Which meant that he had to have been 75 00:10:26,469 --> 00:10:29,437 Either kneeling on top of her or hitting her. 76 00:10:29,539 --> 00:10:31,239 She had multiple bruises. 77 00:10:32,742 --> 00:10:35,376 So this felt superficial to me. 78 00:10:35,478 --> 00:10:36,577 I didn't feel like it was 79 00:10:36,680 --> 00:10:41,416 A genuine display of emotional distress about a victim. 80 00:10:41,518 --> 00:10:50,692 ♪♪ 81 00:11:14,017 --> 00:11:18,352 To say, "I didn't hurt him, I just closed his mouth." 82 00:11:20,623 --> 00:11:25,660 He's crying, sobbing almost as if he pitied himself in this 83 00:11:25,762 --> 00:11:28,062 Terrible situation he was in, 84 00:11:28,164 --> 00:11:32,633 Rather than the situation that he voluntarily entered into. 85 00:11:32,736 --> 00:11:40,508 ♪♪ 86 00:12:03,833 --> 00:12:05,199 Man: In a wooded area, 87 00:12:05,301 --> 00:12:07,502 Investigators finally made the discovery. 88 00:12:07,604 --> 00:12:10,371 We know that the grave contains 89 00:12:10,473 --> 00:12:14,108 The bodies of a female and a male consistent 90 00:12:14,210 --> 00:12:19,881 With the ages of lisa underwood and her son, jayden. 91 00:12:21,417 --> 00:12:31,425 ♪♪ 92 00:12:40,770 --> 00:12:45,406 There's a lot of focus on how his life is ruined, how he's 93 00:12:45,508 --> 00:12:49,343 Going to go to jail for a long time, and how his life is over, 94 00:12:49,445 --> 00:12:53,681 Which I think also exemplifies that callous lack of empathy 95 00:12:53,783 --> 00:12:56,651 That is seen in psychopaths. 96 00:12:56,753 --> 00:13:02,156 And I hear so much more of his pitifulness 97 00:13:02,258 --> 00:13:08,196 And "poor me" than I see any genuine expression of remorse. 98 00:13:08,298 --> 00:13:17,238 ♪♪ 99 00:13:17,340 --> 00:13:26,981 ♪♪ 100 00:13:27,083 --> 00:13:36,157 ♪♪ 101 00:13:36,259 --> 00:13:39,227 Man: Two days of searching for 10-year-old jamie rose bolin 102 00:13:39,329 --> 00:13:41,963 Came to a devastating end Friday afternoon 103 00:13:42,065 --> 00:13:44,599 Here in the town of purcell, oklahoma. 104 00:13:44,701 --> 00:13:46,767 Man: Uh, this is one of the most, 105 00:13:46,870 --> 00:13:49,604 If not the most, heinous, 106 00:13:49,706 --> 00:13:51,906 Atrocious, and cruel case that I've been involved with 107 00:13:52,008 --> 00:13:54,609 In my 24 years as a district attorney. 108 00:13:54,711 --> 00:14:01,649 ♪♪ 109 00:14:01,751 --> 00:14:10,324 ♪♪ 110 00:14:10,426 --> 00:14:17,198 ♪♪ 111 00:14:17,300 --> 00:14:26,641 ♪♪ 112 00:14:52,502 --> 00:15:01,575 ♪♪ 113 00:15:14,123 --> 00:15:16,757 It's a form of what we call a behavioral tryout, 114 00:15:16,859 --> 00:15:18,826 And sometimes you see that with these individuals. 115 00:15:18,928 --> 00:15:20,962 They'll start mutilating, um, 116 00:15:21,064 --> 00:15:23,731 Dolls or something as a way of kind of living the fantasy, 117 00:15:23,833 --> 00:15:25,733 And that no longer is sufficient, 118 00:15:25,835 --> 00:15:27,401 Which is why they select actual victims. 119 00:15:59,335 --> 00:16:02,036 Well, it's kind of a weird indifference, you know? 120 00:16:02,138 --> 00:16:05,339 I mean, it really wasn't important to him 121 00:16:05,441 --> 00:16:08,009 What her name was -- a lot of times, 122 00:16:08,111 --> 00:16:09,210 Particularly with serial killers, 123 00:16:09,312 --> 00:16:11,412 They're looking for a type. 124 00:16:11,514 --> 00:16:13,948 So what does it matter what the person's name is? 125 00:16:14,050 --> 00:16:16,283 He found a vulnerable victim. 126 00:16:25,161 --> 00:16:27,528 He has been relying on the virtual world, 127 00:16:27,630 --> 00:16:29,897 So he may have interacted with people who had 128 00:16:29,999 --> 00:16:32,166 Similar interests. 129 00:16:32,268 --> 00:16:35,636 Berrill: I'm not sure he's fully grasping 130 00:16:35,738 --> 00:16:39,707 How unusual, how bizarre his thinking is. 131 00:17:50,246 --> 00:17:52,780 Berrill: Some psychopaths have difficulty controlling 132 00:17:52,882 --> 00:17:53,981 Their impulses. 133 00:17:54,083 --> 00:17:58,052 He, in this case, impresses as relatively immature. 134 00:17:58,154 --> 00:18:00,387 You know, someone who is socially sort of backward 135 00:18:00,490 --> 00:18:02,056 In some ways. 136 00:18:02,158 --> 00:18:04,825 There's a lot of impulsive behavior here, 137 00:18:04,927 --> 00:18:07,328 But not a lot of forethought about what the consequences 138 00:18:07,430 --> 00:18:08,429 Would be. 139 00:18:30,853 --> 00:18:38,492 ♪♪ 140 00:18:38,594 --> 00:18:41,495 It shows a lack of appreciation of what he's done. 141 00:18:41,597 --> 00:18:42,997 He's completed the act. 142 00:18:43,099 --> 00:18:46,433 He's done what he's wanted to do, and then he moves on. 143 00:18:46,536 --> 00:18:49,069 Berrill: And he knows what he just did, 144 00:18:49,172 --> 00:18:54,041 And there doesn't seem to be any remorse. 145 00:19:16,265 --> 00:19:23,337 ♪♪ 146 00:19:23,439 --> 00:19:31,979 ♪♪ 147 00:19:32,081 --> 00:19:35,382 Katsavdakis: "I had a horrible 24 hours. 148 00:19:35,484 --> 00:19:37,084 "that girl that lives upstairs from me 149 00:19:37,186 --> 00:19:38,819 "went missing last night, 150 00:19:38,921 --> 00:19:42,590 "and I've been worried sick ever since, mainly with the worry 151 00:19:42,692 --> 00:19:44,959 "that I was going to be named a suspect and the police 152 00:19:45,061 --> 00:19:47,461 "would trash my apartment, searching it while I was 153 00:19:47,563 --> 00:19:49,163 "at work. 154 00:19:49,265 --> 00:19:52,132 I've hardly ate in 24 hours." 155 00:19:52,235 --> 00:19:54,401 I don't necessarily know or believe that 156 00:19:54,503 --> 00:19:55,469 He's actually anxious. 157 00:19:55,571 --> 00:19:57,671 I think he has some kind of 158 00:19:57,773 --> 00:19:59,807 Cognitive understanding that he's gonna get in trouble. 159 00:19:59,909 --> 00:20:03,777 So the reaction he's having is more about being apprehended, 160 00:20:03,879 --> 00:20:06,013 Um, and then, potentially, 161 00:20:06,115 --> 00:20:10,451 "I may not have an opportunity to do this again." 162 00:20:10,553 --> 00:20:12,953 Berrill: "I'm afraid the cops would come into my apartment 163 00:20:13,055 --> 00:20:14,755 "and see all my horror movies 164 00:20:14,857 --> 00:20:18,158 And documentaries about serial killers." 165 00:20:18,261 --> 00:20:23,530 His screen name is subspecies23, 166 00:20:23,633 --> 00:20:26,267 Which is an interesting choice of name. 167 00:20:26,369 --> 00:20:27,968 It's almost like an acknowledgment 168 00:20:28,070 --> 00:20:29,303 That he himself is 169 00:20:29,405 --> 00:20:31,839 A subspecies, that really -- 170 00:20:31,941 --> 00:20:33,774 That he's not quite human. 171 00:20:58,834 --> 00:21:06,840 ♪♪ 14493

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