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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,436 --> 00:00:04,569 - Hi everybody! I hope you all are having a great, 2 00:00:04,613 --> 00:00:07,050 powerful and majestic day. 3 00:00:07,094 --> 00:00:09,444 - A missing 14 year old girl from East Dubuque, Illinois. 4 00:00:09,487 --> 00:00:12,142 - I gotta go, go, go. 5 00:00:12,186 --> 00:00:15,145 - Family had found a note inside of the car. 6 00:00:15,189 --> 00:00:17,800 The note said, don't look for me. I don't want to be found. 7 00:00:17,843 --> 00:00:19,932 - I believed she was 100% a runaway. 8 00:00:19,976 --> 00:00:24,676 - I get bored, you know. But no, nobody cares. 9 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,418 - She had not left with her cell phone. 10 00:00:27,462 --> 00:00:30,247 She didn't have shoes. She didn't have any money. 11 00:00:30,291 --> 00:00:32,075 - This isn't adding up. 12 00:00:32,119 --> 00:00:34,904 - I definitely thought someone else was involved. 13 00:00:34,947 --> 00:00:36,906 - I'm supposed to be video connecting with a friend. 14 00:00:36,949 --> 00:00:38,342 - The people she had been online with 15 00:00:38,386 --> 00:00:39,909 had a sexual undertone to them. 16 00:00:39,952 --> 00:00:42,042 - He's a nice dude. He's a nice dude. 17 00:00:42,085 --> 00:00:46,394 - We found a YouTube video where this man comes into the room. 18 00:00:46,437 --> 00:00:50,050 She stops him and she whispers something in his ear. 19 00:00:50,093 --> 00:00:51,964 - Immediately I thought of grooming 20 00:00:52,008 --> 00:00:53,836 or that there was a sexual relationship. 21 00:00:53,879 --> 00:00:57,318 - Get away. Help! 22 00:00:57,361 --> 00:01:00,712 - Her very best friend broke down into tears. 23 00:01:00,756 --> 00:01:02,497 Where is she? 24 00:01:05,761 --> 00:01:09,112 In the FBI we make a lot of headlines. 25 00:01:11,636 --> 00:01:14,944 Drug busts, mob stings, 26 00:01:14,987 --> 00:01:18,121 terrorist takedowns. 27 00:01:19,731 --> 00:01:22,865 We understand why people want to tell stories about us. 28 00:01:22,908 --> 00:01:24,519 - Mark it. - Freeze! 29 00:01:24,562 --> 00:01:26,129 - FBI. - FBI! 30 00:01:26,173 --> 00:01:28,566 But they don't know the half of it. 31 00:01:30,045 --> 00:01:31,830 What really goes down? 32 00:01:31,874 --> 00:01:34,789 We save that for each other, 33 00:01:34,833 --> 00:01:36,966 when we're talking agent to agent. 34 00:01:40,012 --> 00:01:43,059 This is FBI True. 35 00:01:48,499 --> 00:01:50,283 - Kim, we haven't seen each other in years 36 00:01:50,327 --> 00:01:51,763 since we were in DC. 37 00:01:51,807 --> 00:01:54,157 And Wayne and Casey, it's really nice meeting you. 38 00:01:54,201 --> 00:01:57,639 Cindy Coppola is a 23-year veteran of the FBI. 39 00:01:57,682 --> 00:02:00,468 She worked on cases that included organized crime 40 00:02:00,511 --> 00:02:04,298 and terrorism, and took part in multinational investigations 41 00:02:04,341 --> 00:02:06,865 into drug trafficking and money laundering. 42 00:02:06,909 --> 00:02:08,693 - How did you all get together? 43 00:02:08,737 --> 00:02:12,219 - The first time I met Wayne was working this particular case. 44 00:02:12,262 --> 00:02:14,308 It was the Chyenne Kircher case. 45 00:02:14,351 --> 00:02:17,833 Casey Folks has been part of the Jo Daviess County 46 00:02:17,876 --> 00:02:19,835 sheriff's office for 29 years, 47 00:02:19,878 --> 00:02:22,968 investigating everything from fraud to crimes against childrn 48 00:02:23,012 --> 00:02:25,362 to murder. 49 00:02:25,406 --> 00:02:29,192 - So, Wayne, you get a call to join this team. 50 00:02:29,236 --> 00:02:30,976 - So my supervisor approached me. 51 00:02:31,020 --> 00:02:32,935 He forwarded me the email chain and as I read through it, 52 00:02:32,978 --> 00:02:34,850 I thought no, this is a real case 53 00:02:34,893 --> 00:02:36,460 involving a missing teen. 54 00:02:36,504 --> 00:02:38,418 And yes, I want to be part of that. 55 00:02:38,462 --> 00:02:40,942 Wayne Jackowski was an accountant who joined the FI 56 00:02:40,986 --> 00:02:43,511 to investigate financial crime. 57 00:02:43,554 --> 00:02:45,774 He's been with the Rockford, Illinois resident agency 58 00:02:45,817 --> 00:02:48,690 for 14 years, investigating bank robberies, 59 00:02:48,733 --> 00:02:50,257 human trafficking and murder. 60 00:02:50,300 --> 00:02:52,476 - I was working violent crimes against children 61 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,957 on the squad in Chicago. 62 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,265 Wayne gave me a call to tell me about the case 63 00:02:58,308 --> 00:03:02,573 that he had been asked to provide some assistance. 64 00:03:02,617 --> 00:03:04,749 The daughter of an FBI agent, 65 00:03:04,793 --> 00:03:07,622 Kim Castro spent her first decade in the bureau 66 00:03:07,665 --> 00:03:09,319 working international terroris, 67 00:03:09,363 --> 00:03:12,192 before joining the violent crimes against children 68 00:03:12,235 --> 00:03:15,020 task force for FBI Chicago. 69 00:03:15,064 --> 00:03:16,935 - Chyenne Kircher was missing 14 year old girl 70 00:03:16,978 --> 00:03:19,373 from East Dubuque, Illinois which is on the other side 71 00:03:19,416 --> 00:03:21,244 of Illinois from Chicago. 72 00:03:21,288 --> 00:03:23,768 That happened in October of 2011. 73 00:03:30,297 --> 00:03:33,735 And the local police department had started to investigate it. 74 00:03:33,778 --> 00:03:36,390 I helped out a little bit initially on the case. 75 00:03:36,433 --> 00:03:39,305 Family had found a note inside of the car. 76 00:03:45,137 --> 00:03:47,401 - What was her home life like? 77 00:03:47,444 --> 00:03:49,707 - So there was Chyenne who lived in the house, 78 00:03:49,751 --> 00:03:51,666 her younger brother, her older brother. 79 00:03:51,709 --> 00:03:54,668 There was Terry Abbas, who was her stepdad, 80 00:03:54,712 --> 00:03:56,410 and then Laura Lyons was her mom 81 00:03:56,453 --> 00:03:59,281 and Steve Staver was Laura's boyfriend. 82 00:03:59,326 --> 00:04:01,110 Was the family dynamic. 83 00:04:01,153 --> 00:04:03,155 - Right, so wait a minute. Let me get this straight. 84 00:04:03,199 --> 00:04:05,332 The husband and she has a boyfriend at the same time? 85 00:04:05,375 --> 00:04:06,942 - Yes, correct. - And they know each other. 86 00:04:06,985 --> 00:04:08,639 They all live together. - They're all living together. 87 00:04:08,683 --> 00:04:10,598 - Interesting. - Very interesting. 88 00:04:10,641 --> 00:04:13,253 - Complicated. - Nontraditional. 89 00:04:13,296 --> 00:04:15,646 - Nontraditional, okay, okay. 90 00:04:19,171 --> 00:04:22,914 - When I first got this call to go over and help East Dubuque, 91 00:04:22,957 --> 00:04:26,048 and when the uniform officer and I go up to the house 92 00:04:26,091 --> 00:04:30,966 to ask some questions and just try to get some information, 93 00:04:33,316 --> 00:04:36,406 the smell was so overbearing. 94 00:04:44,588 --> 00:04:48,549 And it was a situation where I could see where a young child 95 00:04:48,592 --> 00:04:50,725 like Chyenne would maybe want to take off. 96 00:04:50,768 --> 00:04:52,509 - Want to run away. - Yeah. 97 00:04:52,553 --> 00:04:55,207 - What did you guys do with the note? Did we examine it? 98 00:04:55,251 --> 00:04:56,644 Did the FBI examine that? 99 00:04:56,687 --> 00:04:58,298 - No, actually East Dubuque sent that down 100 00:04:58,341 --> 00:05:00,517 to the state police lab and they examined it. 101 00:05:00,561 --> 00:05:03,128 The note read, Mom and Dad, 102 00:05:03,172 --> 00:05:05,392 you haven't done nothing wrong, 103 00:05:05,435 --> 00:05:08,351 but by the time you get this letter, I will be gone. 104 00:05:08,395 --> 00:05:11,398 Don't worry about me. I will always love you. 105 00:05:11,441 --> 00:05:14,270 You won't find me because I don't want to be found. 106 00:05:14,314 --> 00:05:17,491 So at last I say goodbye. Love, Chy. 107 00:05:17,534 --> 00:05:19,231 - And they determined it was her handwriting? 108 00:05:19,275 --> 00:05:21,146 - Yes, they did. 109 00:05:21,190 --> 00:05:22,757 - That was written not under duress. 110 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,411 - Correct. Not under duress. 111 00:05:24,454 --> 00:05:29,416 - Somebody who's so outgoing and so creative 112 00:05:29,459 --> 00:05:32,244 and wants to be friends with everybody, 113 00:05:32,288 --> 00:05:35,335 I just don't understand what would push a child 114 00:05:35,378 --> 00:05:37,511 to run away and tell their parents, 115 00:05:37,554 --> 00:05:39,513 "I love you, you did nothing wrong." 116 00:05:39,556 --> 00:05:43,560 - We have dozens of these types of cases throughout the year 117 00:05:43,604 --> 00:05:44,996 where children run away. 118 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,998 Dubuque, Iowa is a large city across the river 119 00:05:47,042 --> 00:05:48,609 from East Dubuque. 120 00:05:48,652 --> 00:05:50,828 So they thought maybe she just went over there with a friend, 121 00:05:50,872 --> 00:05:53,396 you know, went to hang out, get away from whatever problem 122 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,311 she might be facing. 123 00:05:55,355 --> 00:05:57,748 And so over at the sheriff's office we reached out 124 00:05:57,792 --> 00:06:00,403 a few times to check on, you guys need any help? 125 00:06:00,447 --> 00:06:02,144 They were confident in what they were doing. 126 00:06:02,187 --> 00:06:04,146 They were following up on some leads. 127 00:06:04,189 --> 00:06:05,974 But over the next 18 months, it went cold. 128 00:06:13,285 --> 00:06:15,026 And so my chief deputy 129 00:06:15,070 --> 00:06:17,812 formed this team to go a little bit deeper. 130 00:06:17,855 --> 00:06:19,901 It was called the Critical Incident Response Team. 131 00:06:19,944 --> 00:06:21,598 He invited the FBI. 132 00:06:21,642 --> 00:06:23,295 He invited state police, 133 00:06:23,339 --> 00:06:25,254 other local law enforcement agencies to join it. 134 00:06:25,297 --> 00:06:27,343 I'm going to be real honest, 135 00:06:27,387 --> 00:06:29,606 our relationship with the Rockford FBI office 136 00:06:29,650 --> 00:06:31,565 over the years wasn't the best. 137 00:06:31,608 --> 00:06:35,046 And so I wasn't 100% sure what Wayne was bringing to the table. 138 00:06:35,090 --> 00:06:36,744 Being in a small RA. 139 00:06:36,787 --> 00:06:39,529 To me, a lot of what we do is help our local partners, 140 00:06:39,573 --> 00:06:42,445 more so than making a ton of big cases on our own. 141 00:06:42,489 --> 00:06:44,404 A lot of times a small department, 142 00:06:44,447 --> 00:06:46,536 a small sheriff's department has limited resources, 143 00:06:46,580 --> 00:06:48,669 but if we partner up, we can accomplish something greater 144 00:06:48,712 --> 00:06:50,235 together than working separately. 145 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,064 - We initially started to investigate it 146 00:06:53,108 --> 00:06:56,111 by re-examining all of East Dubuque's reports. 147 00:06:56,154 --> 00:06:59,070 We went up to her school. We interviewed the superintendent. 148 00:06:59,114 --> 00:07:00,942 We cleared out her locker, we took all of her textbooks, 149 00:07:00,985 --> 00:07:02,639 all of her notebooks and everything. 150 00:07:02,683 --> 00:07:04,424 We turned over these to the East Dubuque police department 151 00:07:04,467 --> 00:07:05,773 for them to go through everything 152 00:07:05,816 --> 00:07:07,862 to find out if there's any notes in there, 153 00:07:07,905 --> 00:07:10,473 if there's any writings where she might be passwords. 154 00:07:10,517 --> 00:07:12,301 I mean, anything we could find. 155 00:07:12,344 --> 00:07:14,346 We turned them over to them and said please 156 00:07:14,390 --> 00:07:16,218 just look through em and see what you can find. 157 00:07:16,261 --> 00:07:18,176 - Interviewed friends, people in the general neighborhood 158 00:07:18,220 --> 00:07:20,091 just to see if anybody had seen her 159 00:07:20,135 --> 00:07:21,745 around the time she went missing, 160 00:07:21,789 --> 00:07:23,530 just to see if anybody knew something we didn't. 161 00:07:27,055 --> 00:07:32,495 - Wayne called me up and asked if I could assist him. 162 00:07:32,539 --> 00:07:34,497 - So did you think she was a runaway? 163 00:07:34,541 --> 00:07:36,543 - I thought there was a possibility 164 00:07:36,586 --> 00:07:38,588 that she was a runaway, but I definitely thought 165 00:07:38,632 --> 00:07:40,895 someone else was involved. 166 00:07:40,938 --> 00:07:44,942 She had been missing for about a year and a half at that point. 167 00:07:44,986 --> 00:07:49,120 The question was how could a 14 year old 168 00:07:49,164 --> 00:07:51,079 sustain themselves for that long? 169 00:07:51,122 --> 00:07:53,342 Where would they go 170 00:07:53,385 --> 00:07:56,301 and how would they be able to live? 171 00:07:56,345 --> 00:07:59,391 She had not left with her cell phone. 172 00:08:00,392 --> 00:08:03,308 She didn't have shoes. She didn't have her coat. 173 00:08:04,484 --> 00:08:07,095 She didn't have any money. 174 00:08:07,138 --> 00:08:09,619 Reviewing the police reports 175 00:08:09,663 --> 00:08:12,927 and kind of following up on some of those interviews, 176 00:08:12,970 --> 00:08:16,408 Chyenne didn't have a strong support system. 177 00:08:16,452 --> 00:08:20,412 She was a kid that was bullied at school, made fun of. 178 00:08:20,456 --> 00:08:22,589 She really craved attention. 179 00:08:22,632 --> 00:08:27,985 She was a gamer and had a very strong social media presence. 180 00:08:28,029 --> 00:08:31,380 - Okay everybody. I'm on Xbox 360 right now. 181 00:08:31,423 --> 00:08:33,600 Mainly she was on Facebook. 182 00:08:35,645 --> 00:08:38,256 She was also posting videos on YouTube 183 00:08:38,299 --> 00:08:40,040 and she was on another site, 184 00:08:40,084 --> 00:08:41,563 one that we got interested in called Chat Tango, 185 00:08:41,607 --> 00:08:44,306 where she was conversing with some people online 186 00:08:44,349 --> 00:08:46,134 through that app as well. 187 00:08:46,177 --> 00:08:49,616 - I'm kind of like going back and forth between the Xbox 360 188 00:08:49,659 --> 00:08:52,357 because I'm supposed to be video connecting with a friend. 189 00:08:52,401 --> 00:08:57,275 And I am kind of like going back and forth here to here. 190 00:08:57,319 --> 00:09:01,845 So if I don't reply to you in no time, then okay! 191 00:09:01,889 --> 00:09:06,154 So today is midnight hour. 192 00:09:06,197 --> 00:09:08,504 You can't send! 193 00:09:08,548 --> 00:09:11,289 - So the theory was that she had met up with someone 194 00:09:11,333 --> 00:09:14,205 and was living with them. 195 00:09:14,249 --> 00:09:17,731 - So, Wayne, what does the FBI then offer in the way of help? 196 00:09:17,774 --> 00:09:19,863 - Mainly in the way of electronics. 197 00:09:19,907 --> 00:09:21,735 Things need to be forensically examined, 198 00:09:21,778 --> 00:09:23,998 somebody needed to go through and get the contents 199 00:09:24,041 --> 00:09:25,826 of her cell phone or her computer to see 200 00:09:25,869 --> 00:09:27,828 who she might have been communicating with. 201 00:09:27,871 --> 00:09:30,395 And if any of that led to something that may involve 202 00:09:30,439 --> 00:09:33,311 going across state lines, things that we could assist with. 203 00:09:33,355 --> 00:09:36,619 - And this is where the FBI's help was tremendous 204 00:09:36,663 --> 00:09:38,621 because we don't have those capabilities. 205 00:09:38,665 --> 00:09:41,319 - We started quickly identifying the people 206 00:09:41,363 --> 00:09:43,017 she had been online with. 207 00:09:43,060 --> 00:09:45,933 At least one or two of them had a sexual undertone to them. 208 00:09:45,976 --> 00:09:47,848 Which was inappropriate because she's a child. 209 00:09:47,891 --> 00:09:49,458 - If she did meet someone online, 210 00:09:49,501 --> 00:09:51,373 who was she in contact with? 211 00:09:51,415 --> 00:09:54,202 Did she meet anyone in person? - Her life's kind of tough. 212 00:09:54,245 --> 00:09:55,812 She probably met somebody online. 213 00:09:55,856 --> 00:09:57,422 These are people she was talking to online 214 00:09:57,466 --> 00:09:59,033 for quite a period of time. 215 00:09:59,076 --> 00:10:01,601 - But I do have my friend talking on the other line. 216 00:10:01,644 --> 00:10:03,951 His name is Master BC. 217 00:10:03,994 --> 00:10:05,822 He's a nice dude. He's a nice dude. 218 00:10:05,866 --> 00:10:09,870 Shut up, Braden. And his real name's Braden. 219 00:10:09,913 --> 00:10:11,915 We're all good. We're all good. 220 00:10:11,959 --> 00:10:14,004 And by the way, Braden, you're kind of on video 221 00:10:14,048 --> 00:10:18,226 when I was talking to you. Just so that you know. 222 00:10:20,097 --> 00:10:22,099 Don't ask! 223 00:10:22,143 --> 00:10:24,101 - Makes sense she's with one of these people. 224 00:10:24,145 --> 00:10:27,670 So we focused in on finding those individuals quickly 225 00:10:27,714 --> 00:10:29,629 and they were all pretty much out of state. 226 00:10:32,109 --> 00:10:34,285 Kim was really good and instrumental in getting leads 227 00:10:34,329 --> 00:10:35,722 out to our other offices. 228 00:10:35,765 --> 00:10:37,245 Find these people and see if Chyenne Kircher 229 00:10:37,288 --> 00:10:38,899 is with any of these people. 230 00:10:38,942 --> 00:10:40,727 So three stick out in my mind. 231 00:10:40,770 --> 00:10:43,686 One was in Florida. I'll call him a younger man. 232 00:10:43,730 --> 00:10:45,340 He's around 18 or 19 years old 233 00:10:45,383 --> 00:10:47,472 that we had law enforcement officers 234 00:10:47,516 --> 00:10:49,474 locate and interview him and he confirmed 235 00:10:49,518 --> 00:10:52,086 he communicated with her online and that he may have sent some 236 00:10:52,129 --> 00:10:54,218 inappropriate photos to her and asked for some in return, 237 00:10:54,262 --> 00:10:56,699 but that he never met up with her in person. 238 00:10:56,743 --> 00:10:59,049 Another lead was sent to Texas. 239 00:11:01,225 --> 00:11:04,185 And we had that person interviewed, nothing there. 240 00:11:04,228 --> 00:11:05,926 Another one was in Alaska. 241 00:11:05,969 --> 00:11:11,235 So that was by far the furthest reaching lead that we sent out. 242 00:11:11,279 --> 00:11:14,630 I remember being very excited for that lead. 243 00:11:14,674 --> 00:11:17,198 Some type of sexual offense in their criminal history, 244 00:11:17,241 --> 00:11:19,461 which led us to believe it might be the type of person 245 00:11:19,504 --> 00:11:21,463 that could lure a young girl away. 246 00:11:21,506 --> 00:11:23,552 So we felt that to be a very strong lead. 247 00:11:23,595 --> 00:11:25,380 And did it pan out? 248 00:11:25,423 --> 00:11:26,903 - It didn't. - Shoot. 249 00:11:26,947 --> 00:11:29,166 - Each lead that would get covered, 250 00:11:29,210 --> 00:11:31,125 you'd get the report back from the agent 251 00:11:31,168 --> 00:11:33,127 or they'd call you and say she's not there. 252 00:11:33,170 --> 00:11:34,868 Just was frustrating. 253 00:11:36,565 --> 00:11:39,742 We kind of always went back to this runaway note. 254 00:11:39,786 --> 00:11:43,746 The note was confirmed to be written by Chyenne, 255 00:11:43,790 --> 00:11:47,010 and she was not under duress when she wrote it. 256 00:11:47,054 --> 00:11:48,751 - I believed she was 100% a runaway, 257 00:11:48,795 --> 00:11:50,622 had no reason to think otherwise. 258 00:11:50,665 --> 00:11:52,537 - I get bored, you know. 259 00:11:52,581 --> 00:11:55,410 But no, nobody cares. 260 00:11:55,453 --> 00:11:59,414 So if you all have a problem with me being gone, 261 00:12:00,502 --> 00:12:03,461 I don't give a flying flute, okay? 262 00:12:04,332 --> 00:12:07,204 - We interviewed most of her friends and by and large, 263 00:12:07,248 --> 00:12:09,511 most of them don't know where she is. 264 00:12:09,554 --> 00:12:11,469 She's just gone. Don't know where she is. 265 00:12:11,513 --> 00:12:13,123 So there is a point that we keyed in 266 00:12:13,167 --> 00:12:15,169 on her very best friend, 267 00:12:15,212 --> 00:12:17,258 a person was always described to us as being 268 00:12:17,301 --> 00:12:20,304 her very best friend, that they were inseparable. 269 00:12:20,348 --> 00:12:22,045 And this friend had moved, unfortunately, to Wisconsin, 270 00:12:22,089 --> 00:12:24,047 so several hours away. 271 00:12:24,091 --> 00:12:26,397 But we knew we probably need to interview that friend. 272 00:12:28,443 --> 00:12:30,575 Quite honestly, I'm hoping Chyenne's with her. 273 00:12:30,619 --> 00:12:33,056 Thinking if her life's kind of rough, she ran away. 274 00:12:33,100 --> 00:12:35,015 Maybe the family took her in and she's in Wisconsin. 275 00:12:35,058 --> 00:12:37,321 And that's why nobody in the local community has seen her. 276 00:12:37,365 --> 00:12:39,976 So I went up and interviewed the friend. 277 00:12:41,935 --> 00:12:44,676 I was pretty blunt with her, I looked at her friend like, 278 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,156 "Where's Chyenne? She's here, isn't she?" 279 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,333 And immediately the friend became extremely emotional 280 00:12:49,377 --> 00:12:51,771 and broke down in tears and very upset. 281 00:12:51,814 --> 00:12:54,599 "She's dead. She's dead." And my heart sank. 282 00:12:54,643 --> 00:12:57,080 And I said, "What do you mean, she's dead?" 283 00:13:00,388 --> 00:13:02,956 We're so convinced we're going to find her alive and well 284 00:13:02,999 --> 00:13:04,740 and that she just ran away. 285 00:13:04,784 --> 00:13:06,698 And now it would seem that was going to be most definitely 286 00:13:06,742 --> 00:13:08,744 something else, something far worse. 287 00:13:16,143 --> 00:13:18,580 - Hi guys! I hope you guys like my new hair. 288 00:13:18,623 --> 00:13:21,235 It's got highlights as you'll see. 289 00:13:21,278 --> 00:13:23,933 Hi Dad. 290 00:13:23,977 --> 00:13:28,546 I hope everybody likes this video, 291 00:13:28,590 --> 00:13:30,853 likes my new hair. 292 00:13:30,897 --> 00:13:34,509 I got it done last Sunday, I think. 293 00:13:34,552 --> 00:13:36,728 Yeah, last Sunday. 294 00:13:36,772 --> 00:13:39,427 - I had no doubt Chyenne was absolutely a runaway. 295 00:13:39,470 --> 00:13:41,777 And now we have our very best friend saying, 296 00:13:41,821 --> 00:13:43,779 I think she's dead. 297 00:13:45,085 --> 00:13:47,304 It was a little unnerving. 298 00:13:47,348 --> 00:13:50,090 I said, "What do you mean? Why do you say she's dead?" 299 00:13:50,133 --> 00:13:52,092 She said, "She would drive me crazy. 300 00:13:52,135 --> 00:13:54,834 She would communicate with me via Facebook and text message 301 00:13:54,877 --> 00:13:57,880 and phone call so many times a day that she drove me nuts. 302 00:13:57,924 --> 00:13:59,534 And I started to hate her at times 303 00:13:59,577 --> 00:14:02,624 because she had to be in contact with me that often. 304 00:14:02,667 --> 00:14:05,192 And if I haven't heard from her by now, she's got to be dead." 305 00:14:11,024 --> 00:14:13,722 It was tough leaving that house. I felt dejected. 306 00:14:13,765 --> 00:14:15,898 But I knew I needed to call Casey and Kim 307 00:14:15,942 --> 00:14:17,857 and kind of explain what we came up with 308 00:14:17,900 --> 00:14:19,467 and where I thought we were. 309 00:14:19,510 --> 00:14:22,339 - I remember exactly what you said that day. 310 00:14:22,383 --> 00:14:24,776 You said she's dead. 311 00:14:24,820 --> 00:14:27,605 I know she's dead. - Yeah. 312 00:14:27,649 --> 00:14:31,044 - And we're all very vested in this at this point 313 00:14:31,087 --> 00:14:34,917 because we've spent so much time getting to know her 314 00:14:34,961 --> 00:14:37,180 and how she grew up. 315 00:14:37,224 --> 00:14:41,358 And so it does become super emotional and personal. 316 00:14:41,402 --> 00:14:43,099 - Totally, totally. 317 00:14:43,143 --> 00:14:47,451 - So then what do you turn to? You go back to family members? 318 00:14:47,495 --> 00:14:49,410 - Yes. 319 00:14:55,459 --> 00:14:56,983 - Who did you look at there? 320 00:14:57,026 --> 00:14:58,810 Who were the family members you had to look at? 321 00:14:58,854 --> 00:15:00,943 - The mom, Laura Lyons. 322 00:15:00,987 --> 00:15:03,076 We didn't know at that time if there was motivation, 323 00:15:03,119 --> 00:15:04,599 but you can't rule her out. 324 00:15:04,642 --> 00:15:07,428 Terry Abbas would have been Laura's husband. 325 00:15:07,471 --> 00:15:09,473 And then Steve Staver, well, he's the boyfriend 326 00:15:09,517 --> 00:15:10,997 in the whole situation. 327 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,955 So what could possibly be his motivation 328 00:15:12,999 --> 00:15:15,131 for wanting to do something to Chyenne? 329 00:15:15,175 --> 00:15:18,569 And Colorado, her older brother. 330 00:15:18,613 --> 00:15:21,964 - Warning, this man may kill you. 331 00:15:24,488 --> 00:15:26,926 Even though he was young at the time, 332 00:15:26,969 --> 00:15:28,797 we were told that he was potentially violent, 333 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,320 that he was potentially dangerous. 334 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:43,072 Oww! Stop! That hurt. 335 00:15:43,116 --> 00:15:47,076 - So we wanted to focus on everyone 336 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,644 until we had a reason not to focus on them. 337 00:15:49,687 --> 00:15:51,994 - The family up until that point, 338 00:15:52,038 --> 00:15:53,996 were they concerned like what happened, 339 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:55,693 like, did the family follow up on this? 340 00:15:55,737 --> 00:15:57,739 - Not as often as what we thought they should have. 341 00:15:57,782 --> 00:16:00,394 And there was not many phone calls made from the family 342 00:16:00,437 --> 00:16:02,918 asking, initially asking for updates 343 00:16:02,962 --> 00:16:05,138 or anything along those lines. 344 00:16:05,181 --> 00:16:07,140 Even after the actual team got involved, 345 00:16:07,183 --> 00:16:09,925 there wasn't a whole lot of calling from the family. 346 00:16:09,969 --> 00:16:12,623 - Never any sense that they're frantic. 347 00:16:12,667 --> 00:16:14,625 Or "What have you found out? What do you know? 348 00:16:14,669 --> 00:16:16,540 What's new today that you didn't know yesterday?" 349 00:16:16,584 --> 00:16:18,281 Never a whole lot of urgency. 350 00:16:18,325 --> 00:16:20,588 - Did they have any other family members nearby? 351 00:16:20,631 --> 00:16:22,807 - So there was a grandmother next door and I thought 352 00:16:22,851 --> 00:16:24,374 that was kind of a key. 353 00:16:24,418 --> 00:16:26,246 During one of the many visits I made over to the house, 354 00:16:26,289 --> 00:16:28,291 I just happened to wander over and talked to her. 355 00:16:28,335 --> 00:16:30,076 And said, "Hey, has anybody ever talked to you 356 00:16:30,119 --> 00:16:31,773 about what's going on in the house over here?" 357 00:16:31,816 --> 00:16:33,688 And she said, "No, they really haven't." 358 00:16:33,731 --> 00:16:35,255 I said, "What's going on over there? 359 00:16:35,298 --> 00:16:36,691 Just kind of a strange household." 360 00:16:36,734 --> 00:16:38,867 And she said, "Let me tell you this. 361 00:16:38,910 --> 00:16:40,956 If Terry Abbas was out of that house 362 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,914 and Chyenne could come back, she would come home." 363 00:16:42,958 --> 00:16:45,569 - And that's her stepdad? - That's her stepdad. 364 00:16:48,268 --> 00:16:50,487 - And so I asked her, "What do you mean by that?" 365 00:16:50,531 --> 00:16:52,446 She said, before Chyenne went missing, she told me 366 00:16:52,489 --> 00:16:54,665 Terry would peek at her when she was in the bathroom 367 00:16:54,709 --> 00:16:56,972 and in the bathtub. 368 00:17:03,065 --> 00:17:05,720 And other times she'd barricade her door to try to keep him out. 369 00:17:14,729 --> 00:17:18,079 - So while you're reviewing different material, 370 00:17:18,124 --> 00:17:20,082 let's say, online, 371 00:17:20,126 --> 00:17:22,432 did you start then looking more in-depth 372 00:17:22,476 --> 00:17:25,521 at some of the work that she did like any of her YouTube videos, 373 00:17:25,566 --> 00:17:27,829 any of her postings that she was doing? 374 00:17:27,872 --> 00:17:30,788 Actually, we had assigned one of the task force members 375 00:17:30,832 --> 00:17:32,616 to do specifically that. 376 00:17:32,660 --> 00:17:34,749 And during his investigation of that, 377 00:17:34,792 --> 00:17:37,230 he found a YouTube video of Chyenne 378 00:17:37,273 --> 00:17:40,102 where she was sitting in her room, she was on her bed. 379 00:17:40,146 --> 00:17:42,844 She was, you know, talking to the camera, interacting with it. 380 00:17:42,887 --> 00:17:45,368 - You know, I'm really bored. 381 00:17:45,412 --> 00:17:48,241 I wonder if I've got anything to do. 382 00:17:48,284 --> 00:17:52,027 Man... 383 00:17:52,071 --> 00:17:56,118 I know what I can do! 384 00:17:56,162 --> 00:17:58,338 And this man comes into the room. 385 00:17:58,381 --> 00:18:01,036 All you see is his waist down. 386 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,517 And she gets up and they kind of come together 387 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,347 and it looks like he goes to put his hands around her 388 00:18:07,390 --> 00:18:09,305 and she grabs his wrists and she stops him 389 00:18:09,349 --> 00:18:11,264 and she whispers something in his ear. 390 00:18:17,270 --> 00:18:19,924 You can hear a man's voice, but it's very muffled. 391 00:18:19,968 --> 00:18:21,491 It just makes you feel uncomfortable, 392 00:18:21,535 --> 00:18:23,537 because it appears to be an adult male, 393 00:18:23,580 --> 00:18:25,626 even though you can't see who the person is. 394 00:18:25,669 --> 00:18:27,454 But it just leaves you with an uneasy feeling. 395 00:18:27,497 --> 00:18:29,630 Because she's young. She's 14 years old. 396 00:18:29,673 --> 00:18:33,634 - Did I say you were in this? No, you weren't. 397 00:18:33,677 --> 00:18:37,986 Get away! Help! See how abusive? 398 00:18:38,029 --> 00:18:40,554 No, he's not abusive. 399 00:18:40,597 --> 00:18:43,905 - You could hear her whispering something to him. 400 00:18:43,948 --> 00:18:48,866 But we had to play the video over and over and over again 401 00:18:48,910 --> 00:18:51,086 to actually understand what she was saying. 402 00:18:51,130 --> 00:18:53,219 - Do you remember what she whispered? 403 00:18:59,964 --> 00:19:03,446 There's a level of comfort that you would see 404 00:19:03,490 --> 00:19:07,537 between two people who are having a relationship. 405 00:19:07,581 --> 00:19:12,063 There's a lot of touching, very close contact. 406 00:19:12,107 --> 00:19:15,763 When I first saw it, immediately I thought of grooming 407 00:19:15,806 --> 00:19:17,721 or that there was a sexual relationship 408 00:19:17,765 --> 00:19:19,549 between the two of them. 409 00:19:19,593 --> 00:19:23,292 - So we have all these clues, but who is it? 410 00:19:39,613 --> 00:19:42,093 - The day the video was discovered, 411 00:19:42,137 --> 00:19:45,706 someone called me in Chicago and sent it to me. 412 00:19:45,749 --> 00:19:49,231 And watching the video over and over and over. 413 00:19:49,275 --> 00:19:52,234 I immediately felt 414 00:19:52,278 --> 00:19:54,671 something weird was going on. 415 00:19:54,715 --> 00:19:57,196 I'm doing a live show, be careful. 416 00:19:57,239 --> 00:19:58,632 Okay. 417 00:19:58,675 --> 00:20:00,764 Listening to a little bit of his voice, 418 00:20:00,808 --> 00:20:03,376 you could hear after we all listened to it many, many times. 419 00:20:03,419 --> 00:20:05,682 By the time we all did, we are all in agreement that 420 00:20:05,726 --> 00:20:09,033 likely based on body type, clothing, voice, everything 421 00:20:09,077 --> 00:20:11,993 and accessibility, being in the same house, 422 00:20:12,036 --> 00:20:14,691 that is likely Terry Abbas, we're all in agreement. 423 00:20:14,735 --> 00:20:18,260 - When we all saw it, I think we all strongly believed 424 00:20:18,304 --> 00:20:20,219 it was her stepdad. 425 00:20:27,530 --> 00:20:31,882 And as the video goes on, she kind of jumps on the bed 426 00:20:31,926 --> 00:20:35,756 and there's a little slapping amongst the two of them 427 00:20:35,799 --> 00:20:38,498 and kind of playful wrestling, 428 00:20:38,541 --> 00:20:45,156 which again, was inappropriate and just way too comfortable. 429 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,986 The way he touched her, the way that she touched him. 430 00:20:49,030 --> 00:20:52,947 There was still a level of comfort between the two of them 431 00:20:52,990 --> 00:20:57,081 that just wasn't realistic 432 00:20:57,125 --> 00:20:59,040 based on the information that we had known 433 00:20:59,083 --> 00:21:01,695 about their relationship. 434 00:21:01,738 --> 00:21:05,307 That he was the stepfather, that she was afraid of him, 435 00:21:05,351 --> 00:21:08,745 that he didn't have a lot of contact with her. 436 00:21:08,789 --> 00:21:10,747 She avoided him. 437 00:21:10,791 --> 00:21:12,662 - Well, going back to what the grandmother said, 438 00:21:12,706 --> 00:21:15,056 that she would run away or, you know, 439 00:21:15,099 --> 00:21:18,929 wouldn't want to be around him, did that confuse you at all? 440 00:21:18,973 --> 00:21:21,628 - Working those types of cases 441 00:21:21,671 --> 00:21:26,676 and knowing the level of secrecy that usually if an adult 442 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,027 is molesting a child and especially in the household, 443 00:21:30,071 --> 00:21:34,118 there will be kind of an agreement of secrecy. 444 00:21:34,162 --> 00:21:37,339 It made sense. 445 00:21:37,383 --> 00:21:40,168 - It was in her bedroom, in the house, 446 00:21:40,211 --> 00:21:42,388 there seemed to be at least some other relationship 447 00:21:42,431 --> 00:21:44,390 behind what led up to this. 448 00:21:44,433 --> 00:21:46,696 This definitely wasn't a one time thing 449 00:21:46,740 --> 00:21:49,177 where all of a sudden let's be really touchy feely. 450 00:21:49,220 --> 00:21:52,354 - And at that point we learned before she went missing, 451 00:21:52,398 --> 00:21:54,574 Chyenne had disclosed to friends 452 00:21:54,617 --> 00:21:57,098 that Terry Abbas was sexually abusing her. 453 00:21:58,534 --> 00:22:01,102 - I told her that she needed to go to teachers. 454 00:22:01,145 --> 00:22:02,799 She needed to go to somebody she trusts. 455 00:22:02,843 --> 00:22:05,236 She needed to go tell somebody. Because I couldn't help her. 456 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,369 - So the East Dubuque police department opened 457 00:22:07,413 --> 00:22:08,979 an investigation on that. 458 00:22:09,023 --> 00:22:10,764 Chyenne was taken down to her local CAC. 459 00:22:10,807 --> 00:22:12,200 She was interviewed, she didn't disclose. 460 00:22:12,243 --> 00:22:14,942 And where we're at, 461 00:22:14,985 --> 00:22:17,248 child victim doesn't disclose, you don't have a case. 462 00:22:17,292 --> 00:22:19,555 And then the school needed to set up 463 00:22:19,599 --> 00:22:22,123 a physical for her and for whatever reason, 464 00:22:22,166 --> 00:22:23,994 Terry Abbas, who was her stepdad, 465 00:22:24,038 --> 00:22:26,388 was the one who was supposed to set up 466 00:22:26,432 --> 00:22:27,998 all of this stuff with the physical, 467 00:22:28,042 --> 00:22:30,784 and he kept dragging his feet and he wouldn't do it. 468 00:22:30,827 --> 00:22:33,395 - Was he afraid that maybe she would tell a doctor 469 00:22:33,439 --> 00:22:35,702 or tell somebody or they would find something? 470 00:22:35,745 --> 00:22:38,008 - Absolutely. - I totally agree with that. 471 00:22:38,052 --> 00:22:39,967 Because when a child goes in to have these physicals, 472 00:22:40,010 --> 00:22:41,621 I mean, doctors can ask them, 473 00:22:41,664 --> 00:22:43,536 who knows what a doctor's going to ask them? 474 00:22:51,282 --> 00:22:53,415 - That's a turning point for you guys. 475 00:22:53,459 --> 00:22:55,417 Definitely a turning point. - Where we pivot. 476 00:22:55,461 --> 00:22:57,376 - You pivot. And what do you do next, then? 477 00:22:57,419 --> 00:22:59,116 - We'd applied for a warrant 478 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,467 to get a GPS tracking system for his truck, 479 00:23:01,510 --> 00:23:03,991 because one of the things is we had talked about in theory 480 00:23:04,034 --> 00:23:06,515 was that if he did kill her and he dumped the body somewhere, 481 00:23:06,559 --> 00:23:09,039 he's going to go back and maybe revisit the body 482 00:23:09,083 --> 00:23:11,085 because we're starting to shake the trees a little bit harder. 483 00:23:11,128 --> 00:23:14,480 I fired it up and we're able to track him a little bit. 484 00:23:14,523 --> 00:23:16,525 And at one point in time, he's going across 485 00:23:16,569 --> 00:23:18,614 the Julian Dubuque Bridge and the signal stops dead. 486 00:23:22,923 --> 00:23:25,839 Just shuts off. Like it ceases to exist, right? 487 00:23:25,882 --> 00:23:28,798 So I'm freaking out because it's like, okay, we did all this work 488 00:23:28,842 --> 00:23:30,670 and now the GPS system isn't working. 489 00:23:30,713 --> 00:23:32,672 Did he find it and toss it in the river? 490 00:23:32,715 --> 00:23:35,196 That's what I thought he did. 491 00:23:35,239 --> 00:23:37,807 What we found out later, it was still on the truck. 492 00:23:37,851 --> 00:23:39,809 We were able to get it back. It just turned off. 493 00:23:39,853 --> 00:23:42,246 So what do you do next? 494 00:23:42,290 --> 00:23:44,553 - Line up our polygraph examinations. 495 00:23:44,597 --> 00:23:47,556 I think at that point the first round of the three simultaneous 496 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,081 was Laura and Terry Abbas and Colorado, her older brother. 497 00:23:55,216 --> 00:23:57,131 - Polygraphs are going on. 498 00:23:57,174 --> 00:24:00,264 The polygraph guy texts Wayne and he says, "Get up here. 499 00:24:00,308 --> 00:24:01,744 Terry Abbas, he wants to talk to you." 500 00:24:01,788 --> 00:24:03,311 It was "Get up here now." 501 00:24:03,354 --> 00:24:05,618 - So what's going through your mind when you get the call 502 00:24:05,661 --> 00:24:07,228 and say you need to go talk to Terry? 503 00:24:07,271 --> 00:24:09,622 - More things than I could ever recall. 504 00:24:09,665 --> 00:24:12,276 My mind was going a million miles an hour, 505 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,801 trying to prepare my mind for anything he might tell me 506 00:24:14,844 --> 00:24:16,411 or any possibility. 507 00:24:16,455 --> 00:24:18,239 I didn't want to fail the family. 508 00:24:18,282 --> 00:24:19,936 I didn't want to fail Chyenne, 509 00:24:19,980 --> 00:24:22,635 our team or the FBI for that matter. 510 00:24:24,593 --> 00:24:27,074 The pressure was high 511 00:24:27,117 --> 00:24:30,033 and somehow, some way I had to deliver. 512 00:24:34,342 --> 00:24:36,431 Next time on FBI True. 513 00:24:36,475 --> 00:24:38,259 - All these leads, 514 00:24:38,302 --> 00:24:40,435 all the things that we ran down as a team. 515 00:24:47,877 --> 00:24:50,227 - I need more details of what happened. 516 00:24:55,058 --> 00:24:56,930 I didn't believe him. 517 00:24:56,973 --> 00:25:00,455 And he walks us up this steep wooded embankment 518 00:25:00,499 --> 00:25:02,457 behind the house. 519 00:25:02,501 --> 00:25:04,154 I mean, this is only like the halfway point. 520 00:25:06,592 --> 00:25:09,595 We really believed he was just screwing with us. 521 00:25:11,118 --> 00:25:13,424 This isn't going to go away until we find out where she is. 42246

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