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Every year, in Europe,

700,000 people die
effects of tobacco.

Eight million worldwide.

This directive
determines to what extent

we want to protect our young people.

It was a long road
to get there.

Please upvote.

We now pass

to vote on this motion number 497.

Who is for it?

Who is against?

Abstentions?

Good morning.

Can you announce
the Health Commissioner?

The Health Commissioner has arrived.

The President
asks you to wait.

How long ?

John, this is a confidential interview.

Mr President.

Mr Dalli.

Mr. Dalli, will you take legal action
to clear your name?

Mr Dalli,
Please ?

I am not
still not informed

bases on which
they substantiated their accusations.

The report from the Anti-Fraud Office
is kept secret.

And President Barroso

refused

that I read it.

Here, thank you.

Did you have
undeclared appointments

with the tobacco lobby?

No, I...

only met a lawyer.

Mr. Dalli, have you accepted
60 million euros from Swedish Match

to influence your directive?

Never.

Never !

My answer is categorical.

Never anyone

didn't offer me any money

to influence me on anything.

Neither directly nor indirectly.

I don't know where you got that from.

With your stature, you did not have
the gun to his head.

Why this resignation?

I didn't sign
the resignation letter.

Good morning.

Enter.

The police humiliated him.

They kept him for 24 hours
in custody

and prevented him from sleeping.

Take care of it.

Not too many questions.

Miss,
we are not the police.

John.

Hello, Jose.

Good morning.

I can't believe it
to see you here.

We have always been adversaries.

I don't understand very well
your support.

Question of principle, John.

They treated me

like a criminal.

They pushed me

to confess something.

You really have nothing to confess?

My father was trapped.

I agreed to meet

a young lawyer.

I thought
that she wanted advice.

So, I accepted.

His name?

Gayle Kimberly.

She gave him a small file
from Swedish Match.

Three pages in favor of snus.

Very general information.

Copy-pasted from the Internet.

But I understood
that I had broken a rule.

I should have declared
this meeting.

Not having declared it was a mistake,
but that does not justify dismissal.

Kimberley claims to have seen my father again,
accompanied by another Maltese.

They accuse him of having demanded money
to promote snus.

But it's a web of lies.

There has never been

second meeting.

What did the directive say?

Does the fight against tobacco speak to you?

Very little.

Smoking before the age of 15,
it's a 90% chance of staying addicted

and die of cancer.

We will not stop a smoker from smoking.

But we can dissuade young people
to start.

His directive was historic.
A hard blow for the tobacco industry.

Dedicate 75% of packaging
health messages,

it was the death of marketing.

The tobacco industry
would have lost billions.

But how many lives saved?

The studies are formal.

Growing up in a world
praising tobacco has nothing to do

with another who assimilates it
to a deadly poison.

Ultimately,

we were aiming for the neutral package.

Without any logo.

But I doubt

may we get there one day.

The neutral package is coming soon

Ladies and Gentlemen,
the President

of the Commission,
José Manuel Durão Barroso.

Mr President,
President of the Council,

honorable members,
ladies

and gentlemen.

I have the honor
to address you

for the third speech
on the State of the Union.

- Hello, Jose.
- Good morning.

- Thank you for having us.
- Sit down.

This is Ewan Micallef.
He works with us at Malta Today.

He is an investigator that the police
regularly tries to poach us.

We have networks

and you do
an excellent relay in Brussels.

- A coffee.
- Nothing, thank you.

Look at the pizzeria,
behind me.

You see the big guy,

in red, near the bar?

It's Silvio Zammit, the boss.

He is Dalli's main accuser.

He was his electoral agent,
a few years ago.

They were good friends,

until the case.

For two or three years,
he sells snus

to the Swedes who live here.

The Swedes
are numerous on the island.

Many work in casinos.

And they want their snus,
they are addicted.

Here.

I offer it to you.

- So he's trafficking snus?
- It doesn't pay much.

- And where does he get his supplies?
- Here we are.

In Sweden, at Swedish Match.

Those who complained
against Dalli.

Does it chew?

Place it between the lip and the gum.

A little over a year ago,
Zammit had lunch

with executives from Swedish Match.

During lunch,

he bragged
to know Dalli well.

He said he could influence her

for him to modify
its anti-smoking directive,

in order to legalize snus
and open up the European market to them.

Your source?

Swedish Match.

We have their email exchanges
with Zammit.

Soon after,
Swedish Match has hired

a Maltese lawyer.

-Gayle Kimberly.
- Exact.

They paid her 5,000 euros
to approach Dalli.

Pardon.

It's despicable.

And the second time?

They would have seen each other again
in Zammit's restaurant.

But Dalli denies it.

The police have proof?

A priori, very little,

apart from the accusations
of Zammit and Kimberley.

You know
Dalli's nickname here?

Johnny Cash.

And there is something else.

While OLAF was examining the complaint,

Dalli made a curious round trip

in the Bahamas.

By private jet.

Is Dalli guilty?

Too early to tell.

Was he trapped?

Everything is possible.

We are continuing the investigation.

Zammit asked for 60 million
to influence the anti-tobacco directive

Dalli refuses to explain
his trip to the Bahamas

Dalligate: corruption within the EU?

Hi, Emily.

I'm still in the office.

Of course !

Yes, let's be crazy,
let's go have a drink!

No ? Sorry. All right.

Shall I join you?

I'm ready to work hard.

But working with José,
it's really exhausting.

For very little results.

It's very frustrating.

And now,
he is obsessed with Dalli.

At least someone cares.
It's good.

No, it's not good.

He still plays Don Quixote.

But it won't go anywhere.

Nobody cares about Dalli.

And he looks guilty.

You're becoming cynical.

I believed
that behind your sarcasm,

there was
hope and values.

And there, when I look at you,

I understand
that by playing the loser,

you end up really losing yourself.

That's why
that you dumped me?

I didn't dump you, Fabrice.

I was waiting for you to commit,
but that never happened.

While me,

I thought
just be an adventure for you.

I had never experienced that before.

The two of us were...

I know...

Why do you think Dalli is guilty?

I don't know.

I met him...

And Malta...

It stinks, right?

When I met you,
you had faith.

You need to regain your anger, Fabrice.

Dalli was fired for two days

before Barroso receives
the OLAF report.

Barroso hadn't read it?

How do you know?

I thought
my important post,

but no one
Don't pay any attention to me.

Sometimes people talk in front of me
as if I were transparent.

Something else...

The General Secretariat knew
the implications of the case

before receiving the report.

They already knew everything.

Even before the complaint
from Swedish Match.

Who warned them?

Do you know more?

I told you everything I knew.

I could get fired for this.

I'm going there.

Tell me,

do you think John Dalli
is the victim of a conspiracy?

We don't know.

Our business,
this is the correct operation

of our institutions.

Exactly.
We have to get out of this situation

where the Commission believes itself
above the laws and democracy.

We, parliamentarians,
we have a control mission.

Please forget
the so-called "Dalligate"

to interest you in “Snusgate”.

Did she say that?

But to whom?

Really ?

And do you have a source?

THANKS.

Bye.

Snus is made
and consumed in Sweden

for 300 years.

We represent a product
which takes root

in our cultural tradition.

We also represent a product
with high quality standards.

In Sweden we have approximately

8% of men smoke.

But 40% consume snus.

We have a cancer rate
among the lowest in the world

and the lowest mortality
linked to tobacco.

This study shows us that snus

is 95% to 99%

less risky than cigarettes.

Fabrice Portal,
assistant to MP Bové.

Is snus addictive?

Is it easy to stop?

To be honest,
it's as addictive as cigarettes.

And believe me, if I could
stop snus now,

I would.

But I can't.

Joking aside...

To stop smoking,

we think that snus
is a good alternative.

It is undoubtedly
the best option on the market.

At least from the Swedish market.

Which brings us to the last point.

Excuse me, sir.

You work with Mr. Bové,
is that right?

Could we arrange
an interview with him?

Since his very spiritual "Snusgate",

there were internal conflicts
at Swedish Match.

Conflicts?

Listen.

This affair makes us pass
for useful idiots.

We come to think
that we could have been manipulated.

- Good morning !
- Johan Gabrielsson, Swedish Match.

José Bové. Welcome.

- Good morning.
- Cecilia Isaksson.

You know Fabrice.

And here is Clémence.

- Sit down, please.
- THANKS.

Do you want a drink?

Water would be perfect.

GOOD.

Thanks for coming.

Thank you for having us.

First of all, I would like to clarify

that I usually never deal with
with the tobacco lobby.

I don't receive you
as in the context of the Dalli affair.

Is it well noted?

And to avoid...

To avoid trouble...

To avoid trouble,

I informed everyone
of this meeting.

So the 700 deputies...

705.

Everyone knows
that you are there.

And I forwarded the email
to Mr Barroso and Mr Kessler.

You know, OLAF.

To finish with all this
and be transparent,

I would like, with your permission,
record our conversation.

Does that suit you?

Yes.

Very good, thank you.

We are
a small Swedish company.

Our issues are not
those of the tobacco lobbies.

But in a sense,
you are a bit Philip Morris.

Not really.

There was a joint venture
in 2009 between you

and Philip Morris,

so Swedish Match and Philip Morris...

It's the same everywhere.

The tobacco industry
is moving towards smoke-free products.

It's the future,
but we remain a small company.

We sell matches
and snuff.

In my opinion,
the best is still that.

You worked at the Commission.

This is where you met
Gayle Kimberley?

Yes, in Brussels.
And Gayle is a friend of my wife.

It's you
who hired her.

- Is that it?
- Yes.

Do you trust him?

Okay, I'll tell you
what happened.

So... Gayle called me.

The second meeting
had moved her.

She asks me to come to Malta.

Once there, she told us
that Mr. Dalli is ready to intervene,

but he asks
compensation.

Then, Silvio Zammit appears.
We were in his restaurant.

He tells us the same story,
with his own words.

And he tells us the amount.

- Around 60 million.
- That's it.

Like you,
At first we thought it was a joke.

- Were you there too?
- Yes.

Mr Zammit
was very convincing.

He spoke in Dalli's name,
he said “my boss”.

He was very knowledgeable
about our society and about snus.

And on the legislative process.

He asked

until we make the transfer
directly to Mr. Dalli.

We had no reason
not to take them seriously.

We of course considered it necessary
to relate these facts

to the competent authorities.

Did you come for this?
To justify yourself?

We have something new,

on Kimberley.

We had access to new elements,
from Malta.

It's not out yet
in the press.

Your friend Gayle lied to you.

She gave Zammit 3,000 euros
out of the 5,000.

Here is...

proof of the transfer.

And if it was her,
Who was piloting Zammit?

Look.

She even dictated an email to him.

And this idiot
transferred it as is!

SO...

Who manipulates who?

I know Gayle lied to us.

And that Mr. Dalli
was not on the second date.

Pardon ?

Tell them.

Hi, Emily.
THANKS.

Thanks for what?

You put me back on Dalli.

Don't miss the press conference
Greens tomorrow.

Colleagues
have a statement to make

about the Dalli affair.

We actually have
revelations

which shed light in a new light

the Dalli affair scandal.

First-hand revelations,
coming from Swedish Match.

There was no
second appointment.

Mr. Dalli was not
at this second meeting

because it never existed.

I received a text message.

Lauren Holmes, Europolitics.

Mr. Palsson,
an executive from Swedish Match,

denies these remarks.

Here is what Mr. Gabrielsson,
from Swedish Match,

told us yesterday.

How long have you known this?

OLAF investigators told me

that Kimberley had recanted.

She lied
about the second meeting.

This meeting
may never have existed.

But why didn't you say anything?

Listen.

OLAF and the Maltese police
made it clear to me

only for good conduct
of the investigation,

it was better not to say anything

and stick to it
to the initial version.

Please excuse me.

Mr. Kessler!

You will finally honor us
of your presence.

Thank you so much.

Welcome, Mr. Kessler.

- Pardon.
- Sit down.

SO...

The Commission
budgetary control

will ask you about the Dalli affair.

If I can answer,
I will do it with pleasure.

GOOD.

When did it start
the case evaluation phase?

I can tell you,
because...

We keep all the traces.

She started...

on May 24, 2012.

Exactly. And the end date?

It ended on May 25.

It's a bit short, isn't it?

Not so much, it depends...

Every case is different,
there is no rule.

“Short”, I wouldn’t say that.

What is the average duration
evaluation phases?

I couldn't tell you,
I don't know.

That's 1.7 months.

Congratulations,
you teach me.

Why did you ask yourself
Mrs. Kimberley?

The matter was serious enough

so that I grant it
special care.

But according to official texts,

your role
is to guarantee impartiality

of the investigation.

In no case,
you are not supposed to intervene.

As Director General of OLAF,

I'm the one who gets it
the closure of the investigation.

Why this question ?

You interrupted
your interview with Mrs. Kimberley

to have a long lunch with her

without keeping any trace
of your exchanges.

No, it was just a break.

Liar.

Did you incite Swedish Match

to trick Mr. Zammit into recording him?

How did you gain access
to an investigation

covered by secrecy
education?

We did not have access
to your inquiry, unfortunately.

This is part of the authorizations

of the Budgetary Control Commission
to audition for Swedish Match.

It is our mission to ensure
of the integrity of our institutions.

Do you still have a lot of questions?

Yes, quite a few.

Why Mr. Dalli

was he summoned
before submitting your report?

I can't answer
to this question.

I am not
President Barroso!

You should summon him!

Count on us.

Kessler defends controversial report

Empty, John!
That's why they were hiding him.

It is now notorious
that OLAF had to shoot you down.

That's what I told you.

They killed me.

They have no scruples.

We hope to see Barroso apologize.

Looking forward.

You dream,

Jose.

Barroso is out of reach.

Thanks, John.

Good luck.

- Goodbye, John.
- Bye.

Why didn't you call?

You say that...

because you are not alone?

I don't deserve this.

I just got fired.

My trial period ended

and I understood well
that I was no longer welcome.

Is it because of me?
Because of the affair?

It doesn't matter.

I'll leave them to you, finally.

They are magnificent.

Goodbye, Emily.

I don't see what this is about.

A 2004 agreement
on illegal trafficking.

My mission,
it was health, not traffic.

I can't know everything.

For illegal traffic you will get

information from NGOs.

Okay, we'll see that.

Thanks John, goodbye.

Bye.

Cigarette trafficking
criminal networks

generates profits on the black market

and finance
illicit and terrorist activities.

Around 600 billion
contraband cigarettes

are expired each year.

Manufacturers and tobacconists
lose money.

States and taxpayers
are robbed

40 to 50 billion dollars per year.

This windfall could finance
public services,

our schools

and our local communities.

By joining forces,

the legal industry,

governments,

law enforcement

and civil society,

we can eradicate
illicit trade.

Together,

let's put an end to contraband cigarettes.

What wonderful propaganda!

The tobacco giants
managed to convince

Interpol and OLAF

that the industry was a victim
illicit trade.

But don't be fooled.

She is not the victim.

She is the main supplier.

Since 1989,
millions of documents

prove that the tobacco industry
knowingly collaborated

with criminal networks.

She goes so far as to organize the traffic
in his own interest.

Thank you.

How do you imagine fighting
against smuggling

without the help of industry?

It's simply impossible.

They organize the traffic

and they will continue to do so.

With these cheap products,
they target young people.

Entrust them with the fight against trafficking,
it's entrusting to the fox

guarding the henhouse.

Since their convictions,

the main players
of the tobacco industry

actively collaborate with OLAF
in the fight against trafficking.

This is the meaning of this agreement.

Alright. Can we read it?

Unfortunately, no.

What exactly do you have to hide?

Sorry, but that doesn't concern
public opinion.

We are not public opinion,

but Parliament.

Okay, but there is
a confidentiality issue

which is inherent to this type of agreement.

Oh well, why?

It is a legal reality.

This is data
private businesses, José.

They must remain secret,

because they have
immense market value.

Even if we wanted to,

there is no legal way
to make them public.

- And you deplore it, of course?
- Yes, obviously.

We should at least
let us take a look.

Mr. Gabrielsson?

Hello, this is José Bové.

Sorry...

I can't talk to you.

Can I call you back later?

I absolutely can't
talk to you.

I have just one question.

It's about your superior,
Mr. Palsson,

and Michel Petite, your lawyer.

I'm sorry, José,
I can't.

"Palsson leaves Brussels by train
in an hour."

Mr. Palsson.

Hello, I am José Bové.

The Minister of Justice
was shocked by our revelations.

It's a real scandal.

It's a shame for Giovanni Kessler,
the director of OLAF,

personally involved in the investigation,

but it's even more so
for President Barroso.

He must resign.

Can we talk
of a real conspiracy

at the initiative of the tobacco lobby?

No more searching for the lobby,
when he's inside.

It's a real "Barrosogate".

The argument that Mr. Petite
would have contacted the Secretariat

as a former civil servant
is inconceivable

just as naive.

Furthermore, it is difficult to support
that the activities of Mr. Petite

in connection with its customers

do not fall under
of a potential conflict of interest.

Every year, in Europe,

700,000 people
die from the effects of tobacco.

Eight million worldwide.

This directive determines

to what extent
we want to protect our young people.

It was a long road
to get there.

Please upvote.

We now pass

to vote on this motion

number 497.

Who is for it?

Who is against?

Abstentions?

By an overwhelming majority,
the motion is approved.

Adaptation: Olivier Pisella