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Times Square
on a beautiful Saturday,
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it is packed.
There was a T-shirt vendor
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who saw an individual get out
of a car,
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and take a lighter and toss it
in the passenger seat.
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- And then you heard this
little pop-pop-pop-pop.
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- All that glass,
all those bits and shards
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that are from 20 stories,
30 stories high.
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They're going to come
crashing to the ground.
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This is a bomber.
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Are they going to activate
some other bombs?
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Find the guy.
Stop the next act.
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- We need to pull
every single camera.
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He's on a plane.
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- Clock is ticking.
- Get that plane back now!
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In the FBI,
we make a lot of headlines.
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Drug busts, mob stings,
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terrorist takedowns.
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We understand why people want
to tell stories about us.
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- Mark it.
- Freeze!
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- FBI.
- FBI!
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- Action!
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- But they don't know
the half of it.
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What really goes down?
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We save that for each other,
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when we're talking
agent to agent.
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This is FBI True.
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- Guys, it's so great
to see you.
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Haven't seen you in,
like, a minute.
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- Kristy Kottis
is a 24-year veteran of the FB.
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She worked gangs,
crimes against children,
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as well as human
and drug trafficking.
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- Pete where were you
on May 1st, 2010?
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- I was in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn.
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- Peter Licata was one
of the FBI's top bomb experts.
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He dealt with more than 300
Improvised Explosive Devices
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on missions to Iraq.
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In 2010, he led
the Weapons of Mass Destruction
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Squad for New York City.
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My counterparts
in the NYPD bomb squad,
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they tell me we got
a thing going on Times Square.
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You probably want to start
rolling this way.
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I got a call,
not unusual
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because it always happens
either on a Friday or Saturday
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when you're getting
ready to relax.
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The assistant special agent
in charge called up,
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"Can you respond
as the on-scene commander?"
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- Greg Ehrie was recruited
from the US Air Force
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to join the FBI,
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where he worked organized crime
and intelligence cases.
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In 2010, he was
Supervisory Special Agent
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for the New York Domestic
Terrorism Squad.
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- At this point, we had been
doing a lot of bomb threats
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- We've been through
this before.
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This is not our first time.
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And so everyone knows
what their mission is.
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- Richard Frankel got his start
in the FBI
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investigating the infamous
Gambino crime family.
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After the attacks on 9/11,
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he moved into national securit.
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By 2009,
Frankel was responsible
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for domestic terrorist threats
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for the FBI's New York
field office.
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- So you're first on scene.
What do you see?
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- It's Times Square
on a beautiful Saturday,
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right around when shows
are letting out,
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shows are coming in,
it is packed.
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I look for my team.
I look for my counterparts,
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and the first thing goes,
what do we have here?
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And what they tell me is
there was a T-shirt vendor
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right on the corner of
45th and Broadway
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who saw an individual get out
of a car, a Nissan Pathfinder,
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and take a lighter and toss it
in the passenger seat.
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- And then you heard this
little pop-pop-pop-pop!
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Which was almost like
a firecracker
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going off and stuff.
And then sparks inside the car,
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you could see them.
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- At that point,
the T-shirt vendor
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sees a fire start
to engulf the car.
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- And when that happened,
everyone started running.
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Go, go!
Everybody back up!
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Everybody back up!
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Come on, keep going back.
Just keep moving.
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- The FDNY, they see two red,
five-gallon gasoline jugs
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in the back seat
of this of this SUV.
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They see some fusing systems.
They see some pyrotechnics,
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a.k.a. firecrackers,
consumer grade firecrackers.
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They see three propane tanks
in the cargo area of this SUV.
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And then they see a really long
gun locker.
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And they're like,
this isn't a normal car fire.
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We've got something more.
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- So based on your experience
as a bomb tech
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looking at this device,
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you're recognizing how powerful
this would have been
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if it went off.
How powerful are we talking?
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- Catastrophic.
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You have Times Square.
You have 45th Street.
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You have to worry about
the fragmentation
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from the vehicle,
the device itself.
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And then what we call secondary
and tertiary fragmentation.
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Which is all that glass.
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All those bits and shards
that are from 20 stories,
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30 stories high.
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They're going to come crashing
to the ground
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and not just
at 45th and Broadway.
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We're talking all the way up
the east side on 45th Street.
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We're talking around the block
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and we're talking all the way
back down to the Hudson River,
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going down the west Side.
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In order to get a view
of the device,
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you use a remote-controlled
robot to do a reconnaissance
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for you to get a look
at the hazard
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without putting a bomb tech
in harm's way.
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First thing you do
is you make the device safe,
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a.k.a. render it safe
neutralizer,
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which means you separate
any fusing system
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or the switch from
the energetic or the explosives.
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Then once we have the explosive
isolated,
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we can put it in a vehicle
or a flatbed
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and we can haul it out of there.
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Whether he was able to set
this device off or not,
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it doesn't matter.
The bomb didn't explode,
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but this is still a bomber.
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- So all these thoughts
are starting to race
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through my head.
Now the temperature's
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gone up even more,
because you're thinking,
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it's not a pipe bomb,
which is damaging enough.
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How big could this be?
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- It was just a couple
of short years ago,
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you had the Mexican
consulate bombing.
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You had a bombing
at the Times Square
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recruiting station
just around the corner.
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You had a potential attack on
the New York City subway system.
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- Our job since 9/11
has been to prevent
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an act of terrorism in New York
and elsewhere.
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And we can't let this happen
a second time on our watch.
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- I'm starting to think
at this point,
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okay, where's the subject?
Who was driving the car?
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Because are they going
to activate some other bombs?
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And in my head, I literally
am thinking of a stopwatch
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being clicked. because now,
the hunt is on.
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The JOC is now
completely up and running.
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You've got analysts,
you've got surveillance teams,
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you've got lawyers from both
the U.S. Attorney's office
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and the FBI.
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The entire task force
is up and running
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and it's 24-7.
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I'm on the phone
with Greg, with Pete,
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with everyone saying,
is there any other bomb?
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Is there any other actor here
in the United States
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that we have to worry about?
And the mission was,
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find the guy. Stop the next act.
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Everyone was about the mission
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- Remember Times Square, busy.
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People are moving around.
It's not evacuated yet.
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Who came out of that car
and went somewhere?
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We need to pull
every single camera.
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You know, I need to see a face.
Who came out of that car?
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- Wasn't there some information
that we ran down
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because it was video
of a man changing his clothes?
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- We are currently examining
video that shows
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a white male in his 40s
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in Shubert Alley,
looking back in the direction
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of West 45 Street.
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He also was seen shedding
a dark-coloured shirt,
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revealing a red one underneath.
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This happened about
a half block
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from where the vehicle
was parked.
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- Looks like he's coming
from the car.
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Very suspicious.
Goes down an alley.
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- It's a clue.
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So we start to focus in
on that very quickly.
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That became
a person of interest.
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So we are getting some
information that's coming in.
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The license plate,
because it was obvious,
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we got that one.
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- We run it. What do we get?
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- Comes back to a body shop
over in Brooklyn.
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So let's get people out
to that body shop,
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find out what we know.
But remember, everywhere we go,
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even if it doesn't look good,
you're assuming
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this is a terrorism
organization.
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This is a bomber.
This is somebody who's armed.
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So you can't just go
willy nilly.
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I remember them dragging
the owner of this body shop
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out of bed, you know,
and talking to him.
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He was able to very quickly say
it belonged to a pickup truck
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that he still had right there.
He said, I thought the plates
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were still in the car.
So we know that's a dead end.
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So I remember banging Pete
and his folks hard to say,
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"Give me something from here."
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There's a set of keys
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that somebody had left,
didn't know what they were to.
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- We're looking for what
we call trace evidence,
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which are fingerprints, hairs,
fibers, any DNA,
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the lighter and the keys
that are found
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on the floorboard of the seat.
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- Pete was able to relay to us
the VIN number,
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the one in the windshield
was obliterated.
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And at some point, very quickly,
when you were going to move
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the car, somebody was able
to get the VIN
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from the frame underneath.
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- Finding the VIN...
- Huge.
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- Huge, and that is almost
a turning point in our mind
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because we're like,
we can solve this.
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- The VIN number came back to,
I remember, to an 18-year-old
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who had sold the car
to somebody.
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We start sending people out
and it was over in...
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- Connecticut.
- Connecticut, it was up
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in Connecticut.
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So we sent a group
of people up there,
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and she tells us she got a call
from somebody who said,
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"I'd like to buy the car."
And he looked at it.
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He paid cash.
But the brother stops
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and is talking to our agents
and says,
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"You know, he never
gave us a name."
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The person who bought the car
did make the mistake.
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He gave them a phone number.
So we start running that down.
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- You've got the phone number,
you run it...
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- Yeah, numerous calls
to Pakistan,
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specifically on the...
Right before the bomb
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was put in place.
Now it's, okay. Game is on.
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We know this
is an act of terror.
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The focus now is find
this individual
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and who else is connected.
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And then we found
a clip of video...
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- And you will see that
the Muslim war has just started.
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- Right now, we have the VIN,
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the license plate,
the phone number.
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- We start running
all the numbers
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with our other government
agency friends.
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We run that and we found
the person who bought the car
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did make numerous calls
to Pakistan.
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- And during this time,
we also have a Pakistani Taliban
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group releasing a video
taking credit for the bomb,
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even though it didn't explode.
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- Up until this point,
it's a criminal case.
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But once you now see Pakistan
and you see it on the phone,
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we now have a whole new
host of tradecraft
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that we can use.
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Um, we've got
the military there.
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You know, their criminal
and counterintelligence
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investigators are with us.
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You can start seeing who
on the other side
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was being talked to.
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And now reverse that
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and see who they're talking
to in the United States.
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- Pete, did this bomb
have an IED signature
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that you recognized
from a certain...
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Like, these are used
in Afghanistan.
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These were used in Pakistan.
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- You have a locker
that's weighing over about
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200 pounds, full of some
type of fertilizer mixture
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with propane tanks
and gasoline cylinders
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and all this stuff.
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A signature of what was
happening overseas.
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Al Qaeda has posted several
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videos providing
step-by-step instructions
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on how to construct a car bomb
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using propane tanks
and gasoline.
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- So it's like, okay,
what did this guy think
261
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he or she was going to do?
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And it's now starting to scale
in our mind's eye,
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the technical expertise
of this individual.
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So we went to rural
Pennsylvania.
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We found a similar vehicle.
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We were in an isolated,
desolated area,
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very rural, not anyone around.
And we built a device,
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over 200 pounds of ammonium
nitrate and fuel oil detonating.
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It was a devastating device.
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Now, you picture that
in the middle of Times Square
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at six-something on a Saturday.
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- When Pete and his team
set off that live shot,
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that bomb...
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we all looked at that
and said, "What if?"
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- So we've got the phone number.
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- We run that, and a young
analyst comes up and says,
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"Hey, that number was listed
on a customs form
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a year or two before,
and it comes back to somebody."
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So in other words, somebody had
come into the United States,
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gone through customs and listed
that number as a contact.
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And that was Faisal Shahzad.
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. We got something.
283
00:14:00,404 --> 00:14:03,059
Now we have something real.
284
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The bomb squad.
They're still working the bomb
285
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and getting any information
that you can.
286
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Analysts now focus
on Faisal Shahzad.
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Get us everything.
288
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- And there was
a clip of video...
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- Jihad is the obligate duty
in Islam of every Muslim.
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This attack on
the United States
291
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will also be a revenge attack
for all the Mujahideen.
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- So now we have oh,
this is really
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looking like our person,
294
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- We actually went out
and found
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where the firecrackers
were bought.
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- We started to receive
some of that video feed
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00:14:38,965 --> 00:14:41,054
and that wound up being
Faisal Shahzad.
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It was again,
collecting that evidence
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to get that paper
to get him arrested.
300
00:15:01,161 --> 00:15:03,206
- We know who he is.
We know where he is.
301
00:15:03,250 --> 00:15:04,860
We've got the surveillance team
out there,
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00:15:04,904 --> 00:15:07,341
and they're following
Faisal Shahzad in Connecticut.
303
00:15:09,299 --> 00:15:10,735
- Again, you're looking,
is he going to meet
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with somebody?
Is there somebody else?
305
00:15:12,955 --> 00:15:14,914
Is there another SUV
out there that's rigged?
306
00:15:14,957 --> 00:15:16,263
Is there something else
out there?
307
00:15:16,306 --> 00:15:17,351
The temperature's rising.
308
00:15:17,394 --> 00:15:19,396
- All the Muslim Arabs
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that have been martyred,
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I will take revenge
on their behalf inshallah.
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And I really wish
that the hearts of the Muslim
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will be pleased with
this attack and inshallah.
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- Surveillance team
is following him around
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and in the JOC,
behind the scenes,
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we're talking to Rich.
We're talking to the special
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agent in charge.
And as he's going around,
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what if he gets out of a car?
318
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What if he pulls up
into a school parking lot?
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00:15:42,811 --> 00:15:44,639
What if he gets out
carrying a backpack?
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Do we arrest him?
Do we have enough to arrest him?
321
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We have to engage him.
322
00:15:48,382 --> 00:15:50,253
Is this going to be
a bomber that we have to stop?
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We're putting agents
in harm's way.
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- Right.
- They're going to potentially
325
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come face to face
with somebody
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who just planted a bomb
in Times Square.
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So all these thoughts
are going on.
328
00:15:57,782 --> 00:15:59,001
And at one point,
329
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he comes out of his residence...
330
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He is in his SUV,
a white Isuzu Trooper,
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drives to a mall.
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He parks in a parking lot.
We're making decisions
333
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literally on the spot live.
334
00:16:19,021 --> 00:16:20,675
And he gets out of the car
wearing, I think,
335
00:16:20,718 --> 00:16:22,155
shorts and a t-shirt.
So our comfort level
336
00:16:22,198 --> 00:16:23,721
at least goes down.
337
00:16:23,765 --> 00:16:25,462
But we come up with the idea,
338
00:16:25,506 --> 00:16:27,508
"Hey, while he's in this mall,
we don't know how much
339
00:16:27,551 --> 00:16:29,292
time we have.
Get that keychain
340
00:16:29,336 --> 00:16:31,164
that we found in
the Nissan Pathfinder
341
00:16:31,207 --> 00:16:32,861
in Times Square.
342
00:16:32,904 --> 00:16:34,602
- You mentioned there was
another set of keys.
343
00:16:34,645 --> 00:16:35,733
Were those keys found in the car
344
00:16:35,777 --> 00:16:38,649
or like in the ignition
on the seat?
345
00:16:38,693 --> 00:16:40,173
- I think they were found
on the floorboards.
346
00:16:40,216 --> 00:16:42,392
He just threw things
in the car
347
00:16:42,436 --> 00:16:44,481
in the middle of Times Square.
Dumb mistake, right?
348
00:16:44,525 --> 00:16:46,179
- Right.
- So we go up to Connecticut
349
00:16:46,222 --> 00:16:48,137
and we try the second
set of keys
350
00:16:48,181 --> 00:16:49,530
in the lock of his car.
351
00:16:49,573 --> 00:16:51,401
So now we know the lawyers
are happy.
352
00:16:51,445 --> 00:16:52,663
We can arrest this person.
353
00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,802
- So we're back
at the command post
354
00:17:00,845 --> 00:17:02,804
and we know he went back
to his residence
355
00:17:02,847 --> 00:17:05,415
and everything our surveillance
is telling me,
356
00:17:05,459 --> 00:17:07,983
we know that he's still inside.
357
00:17:08,027 --> 00:17:11,204
So we're going to get
our FBI SWAT team
358
00:17:11,247 --> 00:17:13,205
stacked at the door,
which means they're going to be
359
00:17:13,249 --> 00:17:15,034
ready to go and crash the door.
360
00:17:15,077 --> 00:17:18,079
I actually start the briefing
and as I'm briefing,
361
00:17:18,124 --> 00:17:21,605
I get tapped on the shoulder
by a member of the JTTF,
362
00:17:21,648 --> 00:17:24,217
the federal air marshal liaison.
363
00:17:24,260 --> 00:17:25,914
He goes, "Rich,
I gotta talk to you."
364
00:17:25,957 --> 00:17:27,307
I'm like, "Listen,
I can't talk to you now.
365
00:17:27,349 --> 00:17:29,178
We're going to go."
I go, "We got surveillance
366
00:17:29,222 --> 00:17:30,919
on him," and we start arguing.
367
00:17:30,962 --> 00:17:34,923
"JTTF, FBI, we think this guy
is in the apartment."
368
00:17:34,966 --> 00:17:39,101
He goes, "Faisal Shahzad
is not in his room.
369
00:17:39,145 --> 00:17:41,582
He's at the airport.
He's on a plane."
370
00:17:47,762 --> 00:17:49,720
Everything our surveillance
is telling me,
371
00:17:49,764 --> 00:17:52,375
we know that he's still inside.
372
00:17:52,419 --> 00:17:55,204
Faisal Shahzad
is not in his room.
373
00:17:55,248 --> 00:17:57,250
- Somebody says,
"Where's the car?"
374
00:17:57,293 --> 00:18:00,296
He's driving a white
Isuzu Trooper. It's not there.
375
00:18:00,340 --> 00:18:03,821
- I believe there was another
white vehicle nearby.
376
00:18:03,865 --> 00:18:06,389
So when the change
of the eye happened,
377
00:18:06,433 --> 00:18:08,565
they didn't even think
that the vehicle would move
378
00:18:08,609 --> 00:18:10,219
because there's still
another white vehicle
379
00:18:10,263 --> 00:18:12,308
in that general location.
380
00:18:12,352 --> 00:18:14,963
So the federal
air marshal liaison.
381
00:18:15,006 --> 00:18:16,573
He goes, "Rich,
I gotta talk to you.
382
00:18:16,617 --> 00:18:18,532
He's at the airport.
He's on a plane."
383
00:18:18,575 --> 00:18:20,751
I got the documentation here.
384
00:18:20,795 --> 00:18:23,537
That's his passport number.
That's his date of birth.
385
00:18:23,580 --> 00:18:25,582
The only thing we don't have
is the picture."
386
00:18:25,626 --> 00:18:28,455
He's like, "This is the guy.
387
00:18:28,498 --> 00:18:32,285
He's on a plane.
Get that plane back now!"
388
00:18:32,328 --> 00:18:34,548
- Inshallah eight years
has passed by in Afghanistan
389
00:18:34,591 --> 00:18:38,029
and you'll see that
the Muslim war has just started.
390
00:18:42,121 --> 00:18:47,256
- I make it from 14th Street
to JFK in, like 18 minutes.
391
00:18:47,300 --> 00:18:49,389
- Legend.
- No, he didn't.
392
00:18:49,432 --> 00:18:51,304
- Greg, you dispute the fact.
- I dispute this.
393
00:18:51,347 --> 00:18:53,523
- I made it in 18 minutes.
- He got there very fast.
394
00:18:53,567 --> 00:18:55,264
He got there in very good time.
- I had troopers
395
00:18:55,308 --> 00:18:57,179
actually tell me I drove well.
396
00:18:57,223 --> 00:18:59,399
A trooper never tells
an FBI agent they drove well
397
00:18:59,442 --> 00:19:01,227
unless he did something
like that.
398
00:19:05,622 --> 00:19:08,059
So we get out of the car,
we all go running in
399
00:19:08,103 --> 00:19:09,670
into Terminal 4,
I believe it was.
400
00:19:09,713 --> 00:19:11,976
- it's a footrace now.
It's a straight on sprint.
401
00:19:12,020 --> 00:19:15,066
He gets to the airport,
he gets on the plane.
402
00:19:15,110 --> 00:19:17,547
They shut the door,
- And that plane is,
403
00:19:17,591 --> 00:19:20,028
by all accounts now,
404
00:19:20,071 --> 00:19:23,031
basically going to be entering
international space.
405
00:19:23,074 --> 00:19:24,946
We have to know,
are there guns?
406
00:19:24,989 --> 00:19:27,427
Are there bombs?
Are there any other bad guys?
407
00:19:27,470 --> 00:19:28,906
We have to know
this immediately.
408
00:19:28,950 --> 00:19:30,604
- Imagine you're on the plane.
You're Faisal Shahzad,
409
00:19:30,647 --> 00:19:33,084
and you think you're home free.
Doors close.
410
00:19:33,128 --> 00:19:34,869
You know, please prepare
for takeoff.
411
00:19:45,140 --> 00:19:47,447
- Engines wind back down,
plane turns around.
412
00:19:47,490 --> 00:19:49,013
You go back to the gate.
413
00:19:49,057 --> 00:19:50,798
- I think it was Customs
and Border Protection.
414
00:19:50,841 --> 00:19:52,974
They went on board, I think,
with a couple of Port Authority
415
00:19:53,017 --> 00:19:56,456
cops and brought Faisal Shahzad
off the plane.
416
00:19:56,499 --> 00:19:59,198
And they've now,
for the first time, I think,
417
00:19:59,241 --> 00:20:01,112
in the history of JFK,
418
00:20:01,156 --> 00:20:03,985
taken somebody off
of an airplane
419
00:20:04,028 --> 00:20:06,161
that had already left the gate.
420
00:20:09,991 --> 00:20:12,036
So at this point,
we have to take care
421
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,864
of what's going on in New Haven.
422
00:20:13,908 --> 00:20:16,606
But we want to do it smart
and safe
423
00:20:16,650 --> 00:20:18,782
because that place
could be wired.
424
00:20:18,826 --> 00:20:20,610
- Bomb techs go ahead
and they start
425
00:20:20,654 --> 00:20:24,179
clearing for hazards, tripwires,
booby traps.
426
00:20:24,223 --> 00:20:26,137
Then that's passed
to the command post,
427
00:20:26,181 --> 00:20:28,749
going, "Alright. We're good."
428
00:20:36,583 --> 00:20:39,847
- And then you got
the three suits from, you know,
429
00:20:39,890 --> 00:20:41,370
the Joint Terrorism Task Force,
430
00:20:41,414 --> 00:20:46,332
who then take him into a room
to begin the interview.
431
00:20:46,375 --> 00:20:49,944
And again, this is not supposed
to be a Mirandaed interview.
432
00:20:49,987 --> 00:20:52,338
The interview basically
is public safety.
433
00:20:52,381 --> 00:20:54,514
And I said to the to the agent
and the detectives,
434
00:20:54,557 --> 00:20:56,777
"Do not Mirandize him.
I want him to waive
435
00:20:56,820 --> 00:20:58,692
presentment to the courts.
436
00:20:58,735 --> 00:21:00,955
I want him to waive
the attorney.
437
00:21:00,998 --> 00:21:05,220
I want him to waive
everything he can
438
00:21:05,264 --> 00:21:07,962
and that he wants to speak to us
in private."
439
00:21:08,005 --> 00:21:11,226
And he goes, they go back in
and said, "Yep, he does.
440
00:21:11,270 --> 00:21:13,794
And by the way, we kind of
can't shut him up.
441
00:21:13,837 --> 00:21:15,491
He keeps wanting to tell us
what's going on."
442
00:21:15,535 --> 00:21:17,232
- So we have the homerun
already.
443
00:21:17,276 --> 00:21:18,755
We have, the human being,
444
00:21:18,799 --> 00:21:21,062
we have the parts that
we believe hr's associated with.
445
00:21:21,105 --> 00:21:23,760
All this does is now put that
final nail in the coffin
446
00:21:23,804 --> 00:21:25,849
and put the final,
"Happy birthday, Faisal.
447
00:21:25,893 --> 00:21:27,373
We gotcha..."
- Exactly.
448
00:21:27,416 --> 00:21:29,418
- ...on the cake
for the prosecutor to go,
449
00:21:29,462 --> 00:21:32,203
"We've got our guy, and there's
no doubt in anyone's eye.
450
00:21:32,247 --> 00:21:35,119
- A suspect is now in custody
451
00:21:35,163 --> 00:21:37,121
and is being questioned.
452
00:21:37,165 --> 00:21:39,559
The American people
can be assured that the FBI
453
00:21:39,602 --> 00:21:41,343
and their partners
in this process
454
00:21:41,387 --> 00:21:43,389
have all the tools
and experience they need
455
00:21:43,432 --> 00:21:45,608
to learn everything we can.
456
00:21:45,652 --> 00:21:47,306
And that includes what, if any,
457
00:21:47,349 --> 00:21:50,874
connection this individual
has to terrorist groups.
458
00:21:58,099 --> 00:22:00,406
Shahzad surprised
a NY courtroom,
459
00:22:00,449 --> 00:22:02,886
telling a judge that he wanted
to plead guilty
460
00:22:02,930 --> 00:22:05,976
in what was expected to be
a routine arraignment.
461
00:22:06,020 --> 00:22:08,892
He said he would plead guilty
and 100 times more.
462
00:22:33,874 --> 00:22:39,009
- 53 hours from the lighting
the fuse to being under arrest.
463
00:22:39,053 --> 00:22:44,232
The fact that the JTTF
worked the way it did.
464
00:22:44,275 --> 00:22:46,669
It was as it should be.
465
00:22:46,713 --> 00:22:48,845
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