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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,900 --> 00:00:05,800 I'm Ian Meldrum, and what you've just seen 2 00:00:05,900 --> 00:00:08,600 is the opening of a new program titled Meldrum. 3 00:00:08,700 --> 00:00:12,560 We believe this show is a new concept in Australian television 4 00:00:12,660 --> 00:00:15,400 and that there's a ready-made market for a program of this type. 5 00:00:15,500 --> 00:00:19,840 We feel that a 6:30 timeslot, preferably Saturday or Sunday night, 6 00:00:19,940 --> 00:00:21,400 would be most suitable. 7 00:00:21,500 --> 00:00:26,400 (THE REAL THING BY RUSSELL MORRIS PLAYS) 8 00:00:26,500 --> 00:00:30,780 How did he get that name - Molly Meldrum? 9 00:00:32,020 --> 00:00:34,880 No-one knows. # Come and see the real thing 10 00:00:34,980 --> 00:00:37,960 # Come and see the real thing Come and see... # 11 00:00:38,060 --> 00:00:40,920 Why was he called Molly? I don't know. 12 00:00:41,020 --> 00:00:42,240 I've got no idea. 13 00:00:42,340 --> 00:00:43,280 Don't know. 14 00:00:43,380 --> 00:00:44,640 I have no idea. 15 00:00:44,740 --> 00:00:46,740 I thought maybe it was some Australian thing. 16 00:00:46,580 --> 00:00:49,400 # ..doesn't really mean a thing... # 17 00:00:49,500 --> 00:00:53,520 Not a lot of people know this... Uh...actually, I don't know either. 18 00:00:53,620 --> 00:00:55,160 I don't know how he got the nickname. 19 00:00:55,260 --> 00:00:57,260 Was it through Elton John? 20 00:00:56,500 --> 00:00:58,580 I don't really know how Molly got his nickname. 21 00:00:58,660 --> 00:01:00,660 He used to sing Good Golly, Miss Molly all the time. 22 00:01:00,540 --> 00:01:03,280 Good Golly, Miss Molly? I don't know. 23 00:01:03,380 --> 00:01:05,380 I didn't know his other name was Ian. 24 00:01:05,180 --> 00:01:08,480 What's a Molly Meldrum? What is it? Is it a drink? 25 00:01:08,580 --> 00:01:11,180 However he did, it stuck, and the best nicknames always just stick. 26 00:01:11,260 --> 00:01:14,560 # I am the real thing... # 27 00:01:14,660 --> 00:01:18,080 He has this weird habit of rubbing molasses all over his body 28 00:01:18,180 --> 00:01:19,400 and streaking. 29 00:01:19,500 --> 00:01:21,840 And it's sort of been an embarrassing thing, 30 00:01:21,940 --> 00:01:23,920 but 'Molly' ever since. 31 00:01:24,020 --> 00:01:26,500 Did he get it when he was writing for Go-Set magazine? 32 00:01:26,580 --> 00:01:29,420 I had a feeling that John Paul Young may have given that to him. 33 00:01:29,500 --> 00:01:30,840 No! I'd have no idea. 34 00:01:30,940 --> 00:01:33,100 I just wanna know how you got the name Molly. 35 00:01:33,180 --> 00:01:35,180 I mean, a name that rhymes with Dolly, 36 00:01:35,060 --> 00:01:37,060 and you don't look like a Molly to me. 37 00:01:36,980 --> 00:01:38,000 Stan Rofe. 38 00:01:38,100 --> 00:01:40,460 Stan Rofe, who was a disc jockey in Melbourne. 39 00:01:40,540 --> 00:01:42,540 Stan came up with the nickname Molly, 40 00:01:42,620 --> 00:01:44,620 and it really...it really stuck. 41 00:01:48,620 --> 00:01:51,640 (SMILEY BY RONNIE BURNS PLAYS) 42 00:01:51,740 --> 00:01:53,200 MAN: Where Molly grew up, 43 00:01:53,300 --> 00:01:55,480 very big on fruit, I believe. 44 00:01:55,580 --> 00:01:56,760 The Shepparton area. 45 00:01:56,860 --> 00:02:00,840 Ian was born on January 29 in 1943, 46 00:02:00,940 --> 00:02:02,940 in Orbost, which is in eastern Victoria. 47 00:02:03,020 --> 00:02:06,400 Ian's mum and dad, Robert Meldrum and Isobel Meldrum. 48 00:02:06,500 --> 00:02:08,960 For the first three years of his life, 49 00:02:09,060 --> 00:02:12,360 Ian was brought up by his grandmother and his mother, 50 00:02:12,460 --> 00:02:15,600 his father was off at the war. And that's the family. 51 00:02:15,700 --> 00:02:18,860 Ian, the oldest, myself, the middle child, and Robert, the youngest. 52 00:02:18,940 --> 00:02:21,040 # Smiley... # 53 00:02:21,140 --> 00:02:24,480 There's a wonderful shot of Ian with all of us, 54 00:02:24,580 --> 00:02:28,480 my cousin John, Dad and Mum, all standing out the front of the house. 55 00:02:28,580 --> 00:02:30,580 It looked like something out of The Sullivans. 56 00:02:30,460 --> 00:02:32,560 # Smiley, hey 57 00:02:32,660 --> 00:02:34,400 # They say you're a man today... # 58 00:02:34,500 --> 00:02:36,500 It was generally a very happy childhood. 59 00:02:36,380 --> 00:02:38,380 We didn't want for anything. 60 00:02:37,740 --> 00:02:41,560 I remember Ian built a train out of an oil drum and some cardboard boxes 61 00:02:41,660 --> 00:02:44,200 and, you know, we played in that for weeks. 62 00:02:44,300 --> 00:02:47,100 Back in those days, war games were very popular with kids, 63 00:02:47,180 --> 00:02:49,460 'cause the war hadn't been that long gone. 64 00:02:49,540 --> 00:02:52,380 And he'd dress up...he'd always want to be the German spy 65 00:02:52,460 --> 00:02:54,460 or something like that. 66 00:02:53,540 --> 00:02:56,220 We used to put, you know, firecrackers in people's letterboxes 67 00:02:56,300 --> 00:02:58,300 and blow them up, and stuff like that. 68 00:02:58,180 --> 00:03:00,180 I mean, there was always, you know, 69 00:02:59,500 --> 00:03:01,500 those sorts of things that the police were... 70 00:03:01,220 --> 00:03:03,220 It wasn't as though they were down every day, 71 00:03:03,060 --> 00:03:05,440 but we kept them on their toes. 72 00:03:05,540 --> 00:03:09,800 # Yesterday there was laughter and songs to sing... # 73 00:03:09,900 --> 00:03:11,440 He didn't go to school in Orbost, 74 00:03:11,540 --> 00:03:14,200 he moved...he and the family moved to Kyabram. 75 00:03:14,300 --> 00:03:17,180 When we got to Kyabram I distinctly remember him 76 00:03:17,260 --> 00:03:21,560 absolutely adoring music generally, but the musicals of the time - 77 00:03:21,660 --> 00:03:25,200 the My Fair Lady, Oklahoma!, Kismet. 78 00:03:25,300 --> 00:03:28,200 He just loved the whole theatre of those things. 79 00:03:28,300 --> 00:03:31,300 When your father isn't there for the first three years of your life, 80 00:03:31,380 --> 00:03:33,380 I mean, and the only people around you 81 00:03:32,860 --> 00:03:34,860 are your mother and your grandmother, 82 00:03:34,780 --> 00:03:38,800 well, she essentially will have some effect on that. 83 00:03:38,900 --> 00:03:41,440 # See the windows of the greenhouse... # 84 00:03:41,540 --> 00:03:44,400 Kyabram was too small. It was a country town. 85 00:03:44,500 --> 00:03:46,700 There wasn't a lot for him in a country town, 86 00:03:46,780 --> 00:03:48,780 with the interests that he had. 87 00:03:47,820 --> 00:03:51,400 And I know when he was sent to Melbourne by his parents, 88 00:03:51,500 --> 00:03:53,560 to live with his aunties, 89 00:03:53,660 --> 00:03:57,400 it was because I think they'd just about had enough of him - I think. 90 00:03:57,500 --> 00:04:00,860 I first met Ian 'Molly' Meldrum when he was a young boy from the country 91 00:04:00,940 --> 00:04:04,200 and he had those little patches on his jacket, 92 00:04:04,300 --> 00:04:06,580 and he was beginning to be a journalist. 93 00:04:06,660 --> 00:04:08,660 And he was very uni student. 94 00:04:08,220 --> 00:04:11,040 One day he got on the bus and he had his hair all dyed black, 95 00:04:11,140 --> 00:04:13,880 and it was like, "Look at this guy, he looks so different." 96 00:04:13,980 --> 00:04:16,280 And everyone in the bus is looking at him. 97 00:04:16,380 --> 00:04:19,960 And so about a week later, I got on the bus and I had a black suit, 98 00:04:20,060 --> 00:04:23,160 black umbrella, black briefcase, black socks, black shoes, 99 00:04:23,260 --> 00:04:26,000 black tie and my hair dyed black. 100 00:04:26,100 --> 00:04:28,640 Well, that must have driven Ian insane. 101 00:04:28,740 --> 00:04:31,180 My girlfriend and I used to go and buy potato cakes 102 00:04:31,260 --> 00:04:34,040 on the way home from school some afternoons, 103 00:04:34,140 --> 00:04:39,000 and I recall seeing this guy would hop off the bus 104 00:04:39,100 --> 00:04:42,600 and I'd say to my friends, "Isn't he gorgeous?" 105 00:04:42,700 --> 00:04:44,640 The next week he got on with all these books 106 00:04:44,740 --> 00:04:46,200 and he went to pay the fare, 107 00:04:46,300 --> 00:04:48,440 and he had all the books under his chin like this. 108 00:04:48,540 --> 00:04:50,960 And the guy's taking off with the bus, the bus is going, 109 00:04:51,060 --> 00:04:53,040 he knew exactly what he was going to do. 110 00:04:53,140 --> 00:04:56,440 And he goes to hand the money and then he goes, "Whoa," 111 00:04:56,540 --> 00:05:00,040 and all the books go right down the bus and land in everybody's lap. 112 00:05:00,140 --> 00:05:02,660 Well, he used to have this mop of Beatles hair, 113 00:05:02,740 --> 00:05:06,360 which was almost... he was a trailblazer at that time. 114 00:05:06,460 --> 00:05:08,680 He wore a red lamb's wool jumper 115 00:05:08,780 --> 00:05:12,000 and navy blue cords and desert boots. 116 00:05:12,100 --> 00:05:14,480 And I just thought he was so cool. 117 00:05:14,580 --> 00:05:17,500 And I found out later that this gorgeous-looking creature 118 00:05:17,580 --> 00:05:20,080 was at Melbourne University doing law. 119 00:05:20,180 --> 00:05:22,640 MAN: He started studying law at one stage. 120 00:05:22,740 --> 00:05:25,260 In fact, I think we talked about that when he was insulting me 121 00:05:25,340 --> 00:05:27,160 and knew that I was a lawyer 122 00:05:27,260 --> 00:05:30,240 and let it be known that he COULD HAVE been a lawyer 123 00:05:30,340 --> 00:05:32,080 but elected not to go that way. 124 00:05:32,180 --> 00:05:35,160 # See the clown who makes the children laugh... # 125 00:05:35,260 --> 00:05:37,860 My father said, "There's someone at the back door wants to see you. 126 00:05:37,940 --> 00:05:39,940 "I don't know who it is." 127 00:05:38,940 --> 00:05:40,940 So I went to the back door and through the screen, 128 00:05:40,700 --> 00:05:42,700 "Oh, that's the guy on the bus!" 129 00:05:42,140 --> 00:05:44,140 And he came in and he said, "My name's Ian," 130 00:05:43,980 --> 00:05:45,980 we introduced each other, and he said, 131 00:05:45,540 --> 00:05:47,660 "Would I be allowed to move into your house 132 00:05:47,740 --> 00:05:49,740 "with your family for two weeks?" 133 00:05:49,460 --> 00:05:52,100 And I said, "Look, Dad's in the lounge room, go and ask him." 134 00:05:52,180 --> 00:05:54,560 He went in and my dad said yes. 135 00:05:54,660 --> 00:05:57,560 I do believe he stayed there for nine years. 136 00:05:57,660 --> 00:06:00,720 # See the mountains made of ice-cream... # 137 00:06:00,820 --> 00:06:03,660 For Ian to meet the Burns family, but particularly Ronnie Burns, 138 00:06:03,740 --> 00:06:07,960 at that stage of his life, I think it changed his life forever. 139 00:06:08,060 --> 00:06:10,480 He used to live out in the veranda, he had his... 140 00:06:10,580 --> 00:06:12,400 Well, it was enclosed. 141 00:06:12,500 --> 00:06:13,920 And he lived there for years. 142 00:06:14,020 --> 00:06:15,480 And he was really happy there. 143 00:06:15,580 --> 00:06:18,040 Molly and I spent our misspent youth 144 00:06:18,140 --> 00:06:20,140 living here together with my parents - 145 00:06:19,900 --> 00:06:21,900 my mum and dad - and my brother. 146 00:06:21,300 --> 00:06:25,080 Right here in this building, and his bedroom was just at the front here, 147 00:06:25,180 --> 00:06:26,720 which is now a veranda. 148 00:06:26,820 --> 00:06:30,840 The bed was probably...looked like a camp stretcher, it was so...so tiny. 149 00:06:30,940 --> 00:06:34,480 It's a very, very tiny space, but it's just enough to put a bed 150 00:06:34,580 --> 00:06:36,980 and the little wardrobe and his little desk. 151 00:06:37,060 --> 00:06:40,440 And it really was from this flat, this building, 152 00:06:40,540 --> 00:06:44,160 that the careers of many Australian entertainers came about. 153 00:06:44,260 --> 00:06:48,280 # How I wish I were a little boy again 154 00:06:48,380 --> 00:06:52,320 # Living in a child's dream... # 155 00:06:52,420 --> 00:06:54,440 I had started, with friends from school, 156 00:06:54,540 --> 00:06:56,440 the original St Kilda cheer squad. 157 00:06:56,540 --> 00:07:00,560 And we put our little banner up on the fence at the MCG. 158 00:07:00,660 --> 00:07:06,040 Ian came up and asked me if he could join my cheer squad. 159 00:07:06,140 --> 00:07:08,560 Well, I realised that he was the gorgeous creature 160 00:07:08,660 --> 00:07:11,400 that I'd seen getting off the bus in Elwood, 161 00:07:11,500 --> 00:07:16,800 and so I was quite overcome and I said, "Oh, yes, of course you can." 162 00:07:16,900 --> 00:07:17,800 (LAUGHS) 163 00:07:17,900 --> 00:07:20,780 NEWSREEL: The Saints are in their first grand final in 52 years. 164 00:07:20,860 --> 00:07:23,640 BURNS: He had a boater hat, he wanted a scarf, 165 00:07:23,740 --> 00:07:25,680 so my mother made him a white scarf 166 00:07:25,780 --> 00:07:28,260 with the St Kilda colours at the end of it. 167 00:07:28,340 --> 00:07:31,680 My mum's feelings toward Ian were very special. 168 00:07:31,780 --> 00:07:34,760 She did see him like a son, and so did my dad, 169 00:07:34,860 --> 00:07:37,640 but there was a real closeness between them 170 00:07:37,740 --> 00:07:40,740 because at the time that he came to live in Elwood with us, 171 00:07:40,820 --> 00:07:43,160 I went out to start my career. 172 00:07:43,260 --> 00:07:45,860 I was out with the band four, five, six nights a week, 173 00:07:45,940 --> 00:07:49,360 and he was at home watching television with my parents. 174 00:07:49,460 --> 00:07:51,780 So, they formed a special relationship 175 00:07:51,860 --> 00:07:55,120 and, again, it was just part of that feeling of being family. 176 00:07:55,220 --> 00:07:57,860 And, you know, I'm happy that my mum and dad did that, 177 00:07:57,940 --> 00:08:00,380 because I don't know where he would have been without that. 178 00:08:00,460 --> 00:08:02,840 I do recall that Ronnie was really...he was nice. 179 00:08:02,940 --> 00:08:04,940 You know, he was just a nice guy. 180 00:08:04,300 --> 00:08:06,960 I mean, but I was sort of not a BIT in awe of him, 181 00:08:07,060 --> 00:08:08,480 I was totally in awe of him. 182 00:08:08,580 --> 00:08:11,580 You know, a guy playing in a band that was opening for the Rolling Stones, good heavens. 183 00:08:11,660 --> 00:08:13,840 # Smiley 184 00:08:13,940 --> 00:08:17,480 # You're out in the world today 185 00:08:17,580 --> 00:08:20,560 # Smiley You're all on your own... # 186 00:08:20,660 --> 00:08:24,320 We were always going to the beach. We used to put coconut oil on us. 187 00:08:24,420 --> 00:08:27,040 There was no slip, slop, slap in those days. 188 00:08:27,140 --> 00:08:29,180 And then other people came to the beach, 189 00:08:29,260 --> 00:08:32,880 like Jim Keays from the Masters Apprentices, and Russell Morris. 190 00:08:32,980 --> 00:08:35,220 MORRIS: We would always hang out either down at Elwood Beach 191 00:08:35,300 --> 00:08:37,480 or go up to Dendy Street, Brighton. 192 00:08:37,580 --> 00:08:40,240 I sort of tried to drag them up to Dendy Street 193 00:08:40,340 --> 00:08:42,340 because there was much better-looking women up there. 194 00:08:43,620 --> 00:08:45,200 # Nah, nah-nah, nah 195 00:08:45,300 --> 00:08:47,320 # Nah-nah-nah, nah-nah-nah... # 196 00:08:47,420 --> 00:08:50,680 Back then, we didn't have a plan. 197 00:08:50,780 --> 00:08:52,940 We'd run into people at the pizza shop. 198 00:08:53,020 --> 00:08:55,720 BREEN: None of us drank alcohol in those days. 199 00:08:55,820 --> 00:08:57,480 Fascinating. 200 00:08:57,580 --> 00:08:58,800 Times have changed. 201 00:08:58,900 --> 00:09:01,080 # Hush, hush 202 00:09:01,180 --> 00:09:03,260 # Thought I heard her calling my name now... # 203 00:09:03,340 --> 00:09:06,120 BREEN: In 1964, I remember Ian telling me, 204 00:09:06,220 --> 00:09:10,200 "I'm going to Surfers Paradise for three weeks for a surfing holiday." 205 00:09:10,300 --> 00:09:13,200 My boyfriend was away from me for that time, 206 00:09:13,300 --> 00:09:16,440 but he did send me the most gorgeous postcards. 207 00:09:16,540 --> 00:09:19,200 Well, I was so excited to receive them, 208 00:09:19,300 --> 00:09:24,120 and they do actually say how much he missed me and wanted to come back. 209 00:09:24,220 --> 00:09:26,200 Couldn't wait to see me, and all the rest. 210 00:09:26,300 --> 00:09:27,240 It was lovely. 211 00:09:27,340 --> 00:09:29,340 # She's got love that's like quicksand 212 00:09:29,300 --> 00:09:31,420 # Only took one touch of her hand... # 213 00:09:31,500 --> 00:09:36,720 He would come and pick me up in what he called his old Woody, 214 00:09:36,820 --> 00:09:40,760 which was his amazing old Chevy car, 215 00:09:40,860 --> 00:09:43,080 and I don't even know if he had a licence. 216 00:09:43,180 --> 00:09:45,400 We had a delightful relationship. 217 00:09:45,500 --> 00:09:47,440 # Hush, hush... # 218 00:09:47,540 --> 00:09:49,480 So, outside the front of Myer, 219 00:09:49,580 --> 00:09:52,220 the lay-by loo, he asked me to marry him. 220 00:09:53,260 --> 00:09:56,840 And I remember looking at him and just saying, 221 00:09:56,940 --> 00:10:02,440 "Oh, God, darling, I think we're having too much fun to get married!" 222 00:10:02,540 --> 00:10:05,560 I can see why Ian and her really, really hit it off. 223 00:10:05,660 --> 00:10:08,080 They seem to be very like-minded. 224 00:10:08,180 --> 00:10:12,280 If I'd married Ian, we'd have lasted one year if we'd have been lucky 225 00:10:12,380 --> 00:10:13,960 and that would have been that. 226 00:10:14,060 --> 00:10:17,360 So, instead of which, I didn't marry him 227 00:10:17,460 --> 00:10:20,080 and we've been friends for over 50 years. 228 00:10:20,180 --> 00:10:21,560 Best friends. 229 00:10:21,660 --> 00:10:23,640 # Hush, hush 230 00:10:23,740 --> 00:10:25,740 # Can't you hear me calling her name... # 231 00:10:25,660 --> 00:10:27,900 I looked over there and there was this blonde girl 232 00:10:27,980 --> 00:10:30,720 with the mesh stockings and the fancy dress 233 00:10:30,820 --> 00:10:33,360 and the lippy and all that sort of stuff, 234 00:10:33,460 --> 00:10:35,460 and I wondered what Mum was doing. 235 00:10:34,860 --> 00:10:38,000 She's calling out, "Ian, come back here! Come back here!" 236 00:10:38,100 --> 00:10:41,760 'Cause some guy wanted to pick up this girl, which was Molly in drag. 237 00:10:41,860 --> 00:10:45,880 I think by 1967, I'd slightly discovered other boys 238 00:10:45,980 --> 00:10:48,160 and I think Molly might have too. 239 00:10:48,260 --> 00:10:50,240 And then... (LAUGHS) 240 00:10:50,340 --> 00:10:56,040 ..in 1968 my husband of 46 years and I eloped. 241 00:10:56,140 --> 00:11:00,560 And Molly burst into my office, "Did you get married last week?!" 242 00:11:00,660 --> 00:11:01,760 "Yes." 243 00:11:01,860 --> 00:11:07,480 So, he said, "Get me a line, I'm going to ring Aunty Edna." 244 00:11:07,580 --> 00:11:11,880 So, he phoned Aunty Edna and he said, "Sandy got married last week. 245 00:11:11,980 --> 00:11:14,240 "That's it, I'm gay." 246 00:11:14,340 --> 00:11:15,800 (LAUGHS) 247 00:11:15,900 --> 00:11:17,900 NEWSREEL: And this is absolutely wonderful 248 00:11:17,540 --> 00:11:19,540 here at the Southern Cross, it's fantastic. 249 00:11:19,180 --> 00:11:21,460 MAN: When the Beatles arrived in Australia in 1964, 250 00:11:21,540 --> 00:11:24,520 it was just absolute mayhem. 251 00:11:24,620 --> 00:11:27,180 No-one had ever seen anything like it in Australia. 252 00:11:27,260 --> 00:11:29,540 You can't imagine what it's like here at the Southern Cross. 253 00:11:29,620 --> 00:11:31,480 Everyone's going completely mad. 254 00:11:31,580 --> 00:11:33,580 The police were attempting, you know... 255 00:11:32,940 --> 00:11:34,760 "We've gotta get this car through here." 256 00:11:34,860 --> 00:11:38,520 So, what Ian did was, like, "I'm on the side of the police. 257 00:11:38,620 --> 00:11:40,440 "Everybody stand back, get back," 258 00:11:40,540 --> 00:11:42,580 just so that the police would say, "Look at this guy. 259 00:11:42,660 --> 00:11:46,000 "He's really helping us. Maybe we can take him in to see the Beatles." 260 00:11:46,100 --> 00:11:47,840 I don't know what he had in his mind. 261 00:11:47,940 --> 00:11:50,080 When the Beatles came out onto the balcony, 262 00:11:50,180 --> 00:11:52,360 because Ian was at that front point 263 00:11:52,460 --> 00:11:54,860 trying to hold everyone back as he looked up at the balcony, 264 00:11:54,940 --> 00:11:58,240 he got pushed underneath to the shopfronts there. 265 00:11:58,340 --> 00:12:00,560 And there was a florist with glass windows, 266 00:12:00,660 --> 00:12:02,960 and he actually went through the glass window 267 00:12:03,060 --> 00:12:05,680 and he was upset, from what he told me, 268 00:12:05,780 --> 00:12:08,480 because he couldn't see them then. Here are the Beatles! 269 00:12:08,580 --> 00:12:10,640 (CROWD SCREAMS) G'day. Welcome. 270 00:12:10,740 --> 00:12:12,740 MAN: The Beatles did that - 271 00:12:11,740 --> 00:12:13,740 they just turned popular music into something 272 00:12:13,620 --> 00:12:15,860 that just forced its way into people's lounge rooms, 273 00:12:15,940 --> 00:12:18,240 and he erupted as well with that. 274 00:12:18,340 --> 00:12:20,080 And then rock'n'roll just... 275 00:12:20,180 --> 00:12:22,460 They just introduced this whole new feeling 276 00:12:22,540 --> 00:12:25,760 about popular music in Australia. (CROWD ROARS) 277 00:12:25,860 --> 00:12:29,000 BURNS: So, this is where one of the most memorable events occurred. 278 00:12:29,100 --> 00:12:31,720 We were here for one thing, and that was to see the Beatles. 279 00:12:31,820 --> 00:12:35,520 And Molly would jump up at every song, and he was screaming. 280 00:12:35,620 --> 00:12:38,240 And a St John's Ambulance guy came in, 281 00:12:38,340 --> 00:12:40,340 made his way in through the aisle, 282 00:12:39,740 --> 00:12:42,400 and said to Ian, "I've got to take you outside. 283 00:12:42,500 --> 00:12:45,320 "I don't feel safe about the way you're carrying on." 284 00:12:45,420 --> 00:12:47,720 And I said, "Look, he'll be OK. He's in my company." 285 00:12:47,820 --> 00:12:51,720 And I pulled him back down to the chair, the ambulance guy took off 286 00:12:51,820 --> 00:12:56,000 and then Ian jumped up again, screaming like a girl. 287 00:12:56,100 --> 00:12:58,600 So, I stood up to say, "Molly, sit down," 288 00:12:58,700 --> 00:13:00,480 and I must have had my fist clenched, 289 00:13:00,580 --> 00:13:05,000 and the ushers came and they put our arms up behind our back 290 00:13:05,100 --> 00:13:07,180 and just marched us straight out to the aisle here 291 00:13:07,260 --> 00:13:09,760 and they took us down the stairs, someone opened the door 292 00:13:09,860 --> 00:13:13,280 and they literally threw us out like being drunks in a bar. 293 00:13:13,380 --> 00:13:16,680 They just chucked us outside and we were devastated. 294 00:13:16,780 --> 00:13:21,000 Then the Beatles went into Long Tall Sally and Ian was hysterical. 295 00:13:21,100 --> 00:13:23,100 NEWSREEL: In this national newspaper, 296 00:13:22,820 --> 00:13:24,820 printed every Saturday in Melbourne, 297 00:13:24,540 --> 00:13:27,280 parents and oldies have no say at all. 298 00:13:27,380 --> 00:13:31,120 MAN: Molly at Go-Set, well, first of all he was a journalist. 299 00:13:31,220 --> 00:13:34,840 He was not only a student but also, I suppose, 300 00:13:34,940 --> 00:13:37,400 in many ways a teacher of pop culture. 301 00:13:37,500 --> 00:13:40,200 So why don't you go out and buy your Go-Set for 15 cents, 302 00:13:40,300 --> 00:13:43,120 and also there's the 3XY news page, 303 00:13:43,220 --> 00:13:45,560 my column and everything else in the paper. 304 00:13:45,660 --> 00:13:47,900 MAN: Well, Go-Set was great for if you were interested in music at all 305 00:13:47,980 --> 00:13:50,420 because it had all the latest gossip and pictures 306 00:13:50,500 --> 00:13:53,660 and, you know, interesting stuff about people that we were fans of. 307 00:13:53,740 --> 00:13:57,160 I saw it as a very pure magazine for the kids. 308 00:13:57,260 --> 00:13:59,820 NEWSREEL: It now has 15 people working full-time 309 00:13:59,900 --> 00:14:01,960 and another 10 working part-time. 310 00:14:02,060 --> 00:14:04,060 YOUNG: I never knew until later 311 00:14:03,300 --> 00:14:06,700 that I was Molly Meldrum's first interview for Go-Set magazine, 312 00:14:06,780 --> 00:14:10,040 and I always wondered why he was so incredibly nervous. 313 00:14:10,140 --> 00:14:12,640 HEWETT: We had a phone call saying, 314 00:14:12,740 --> 00:14:15,080 "Oh, Go-Set want to do an interview." 315 00:14:15,180 --> 00:14:18,960 We've gone, "Go-Set?! I mean, God, that's like the Bible. 316 00:14:19,060 --> 00:14:21,080 "Why do they wanna talk to us?" 317 00:14:21,180 --> 00:14:24,360 You know, like, "Duh," sucking on our Fantas. 318 00:14:24,460 --> 00:14:28,000 Um, and Ian was the one that did the interview. 319 00:14:28,100 --> 00:14:32,120 I think he must have been 17, 18, something like that. 320 00:14:32,220 --> 00:14:34,220 MAN: Have you got any policy behind your column? 321 00:14:34,300 --> 00:14:39,000 I say it's a helpful column, to this point, that even my best friends, 322 00:14:39,100 --> 00:14:43,400 including myself, will be rubbished in that column. 323 00:14:43,500 --> 00:14:45,540 Molly had an interview with me and he said, 324 00:14:45,620 --> 00:14:49,080 "How do you feel about a statement that the Bee Gees made..." 325 00:14:49,180 --> 00:14:51,500 Which they never made, I don't know where he got it from. 326 00:14:51,580 --> 00:14:54,880 "..saying that, you know, Australia never gave them the chance 327 00:14:54,980 --> 00:14:56,720 "that they've had in England?" 328 00:14:56,820 --> 00:14:58,860 And I said, "I can't imagine them saying that, 329 00:14:58,940 --> 00:15:01,140 "because I know how much they love Australia, 330 00:15:01,220 --> 00:15:04,480 "but if they said it, I would be really disappointed." 331 00:15:04,580 --> 00:15:09,200 So, the front page of the Go-Set magazine the following week was, 332 00:15:09,300 --> 00:15:12,400 "Johnny Young slams Bee Gees!" 333 00:15:12,500 --> 00:15:15,220 And, you know, Barry and the boys weren't very happy with me. 334 00:15:15,300 --> 00:15:17,160 So thank you, Molly, for that. 335 00:15:17,260 --> 00:15:19,880 In '66, '67, '68, '69, 336 00:15:19,980 --> 00:15:22,840 I was totally committed to the pop scene. 337 00:15:22,940 --> 00:15:25,480 I lived the pop scene, I ate and slept the pop scene. 338 00:15:25,580 --> 00:15:28,920 BURNS: He left us in Elwood, and there was an absence for me 339 00:15:29,020 --> 00:15:31,020 because we were like brothers. 340 00:15:30,420 --> 00:15:32,740 And so he'd gone away for three months, 341 00:15:32,820 --> 00:15:34,780 and then he decided he'd take an extra three months 342 00:15:34,860 --> 00:15:36,860 and come back via America. 343 00:15:36,140 --> 00:15:41,120 And he went there to make his fame and fortune, and he did it. 344 00:15:41,220 --> 00:15:43,420 The rest was really history after that. 345 00:15:43,500 --> 00:15:47,040 The Beatles had founded their own label, Apple Records. 346 00:15:47,140 --> 00:15:49,560 Believe it or not, Molly was one of the few employees 347 00:15:49,660 --> 00:15:52,120 that worked there, in promotions and publicity. 348 00:15:52,220 --> 00:15:54,960 He actually lived right next to the Abbey Road Studios, 349 00:15:55,060 --> 00:15:56,880 so that smell must have rubbed off on him. 350 00:15:56,980 --> 00:15:58,980 When he went to England he met Terry Doran, 351 00:15:58,820 --> 00:16:00,860 who was the Beatles' press photographer. 352 00:16:00,940 --> 00:16:02,940 So, at a party, he says, 353 00:16:02,260 --> 00:16:04,260 "Ian, I need you to come and meet someone special." 354 00:16:04,100 --> 00:16:06,620 He took him across the floor and that was when he said, 355 00:16:06,700 --> 00:16:10,400 "John Lennon, Ian Meldrum." And Ian passed out on the floor. 356 00:16:10,500 --> 00:16:12,960 So, Lennon said, "Who the hell's this?" 357 00:16:13,060 --> 00:16:15,060 They said, "That's Ian Meldrum." 358 00:16:14,180 --> 00:16:17,380 And that's how they got to know each other. 359 00:16:20,620 --> 00:16:23,720 YOUNG: When I was living in England in 1967, 360 00:16:23,820 --> 00:16:27,400 I heard a knock on the front door at about 10 o'clock in the morning. 361 00:16:27,500 --> 00:16:29,080 There's Molly, and he said, 362 00:16:29,180 --> 00:16:31,560 "Oh, John, John, have you got any brandy? 363 00:16:31,660 --> 00:16:33,240 "Have you got any brandy?" 364 00:16:33,340 --> 00:16:36,320 And I said, "What do you need brandy for at 10 o'clock in the morning?" 365 00:16:36,420 --> 00:16:38,700 He said... And he had a little tape recorder with him, and he said, 366 00:16:38,780 --> 00:16:42,000 "I've got to do an interview with John Lennon and Yoko Ono 367 00:16:42,100 --> 00:16:43,920 "in 10 minutes and I'm so nervous 368 00:16:44,020 --> 00:16:46,020 "I don't think I'm gonna be able to push the button 369 00:16:45,900 --> 00:16:47,560 "to start the tape recorder. 370 00:16:47,660 --> 00:16:49,660 So, I didn't have a brandy, I think I had a Scotch, 371 00:16:49,620 --> 00:16:51,540 and I gave him some and he calmed down a little bit 372 00:16:51,620 --> 00:16:53,620 and he went and did his interview, and it was splendid. 373 00:16:53,700 --> 00:16:57,160 # Oh, baby, I love you so... # 374 00:16:57,260 --> 00:17:00,640 He sent me a postcard signed by the Beatles. 375 00:17:00,740 --> 00:17:03,720 He's got a signed album with all of the Beatles on it. 376 00:17:03,820 --> 00:17:06,000 It's the White Album, signed by all of the Beatles. 377 00:17:06,100 --> 00:17:07,320 And that's rare. 378 00:17:07,420 --> 00:17:10,480 # I love you so 379 00:17:10,580 --> 00:17:13,160 # I can't go on... # 380 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,200 We've had two pop television shows - one that ran for an hour, 381 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,980 which was The Go Show, and two, Kommotion, 382 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,020 which ran for five nights a week at a half-hour. 383 00:17:22,120 --> 00:17:25,020 MAN: Kommotion was basically a program 384 00:17:25,120 --> 00:17:29,820 of good-looking young Melbourne girls and guys 385 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:31,920 miming the songs of the day. 386 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,940 The worst mimers on the planet, you know. 387 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,460 # Falling down across her arms 388 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:44,580 # Hiding all the lady's charms... # 389 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,680 MAN: I didn't realise that the people that were on the TV 390 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,520 weren't actually singing them. 391 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,960 So, I was probably a fan of Molly's, thinking, 392 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,600 "Oh, jeez, I like the way he sounds like he's got a megaphone on." 393 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,680 I think he's had a longer career 394 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,400 than most of the people he wanted to be. 395 00:17:55,120 --> 00:17:58,340 HEWETT: He always had this funny sort of dance thing, you know. 396 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,920 I always used to call it the university sort of dance. 397 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,340 You know, it was kind of not in rhythm, but somewhere there. 398 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,700 That's how Ian moves. He does that... 399 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,700 Right, now here's that ever so controversial Ian 'Molly' Meldrum. 400 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,800 How do you do, Tony? How are you? Speak to the camera. 401 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,140 Oh, I'd like to wish everybody a happy new year, 402 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,180 and I hope you had a ball of a Christmas. 403 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,820 WYLLIE: Uptight was a four-hour, live-to-air, 404 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,040 unrehearsed television show on a Saturday morning at Channel 0. 405 00:18:24,120 --> 00:18:29,060 I can assure you that I'll drop as many names in 1969 as I did in 1968. 406 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,160 WOMAN: Not possible. 407 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,900 WYLLIE: Molly was quite an eccentric person, I felt. 408 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:38,020 He was very out there. I remember he was totally undisciplined. 409 00:18:38,120 --> 00:18:40,340 Do you feel that age has much to do with... 410 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,440 You want to know how old I am? 411 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,760 Yes, of course I want to know how old you are. 412 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,620 Much younger than Carol West. (ALL LAUGH) 413 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:47,700 On that note... 414 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,220 WYLLIE: I used to have to worry about Molly. 415 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,500 He would sit on my left and Youngy would sit on my right, 416 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,560 and they were just both waiting for me to fall over 417 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,980 so they'd jump into my chair. 418 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:02,020 And I had one sick day in four years. (LAUGHS) 419 00:19:02,120 --> 00:19:03,780 I wasn't letting that chair go. 420 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,140 As you probably know, Barry Gibb has returned to Australia for two weeks, 421 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,540 and I have Barry sitting next to me. 422 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,600 Welcome to the program, Barry. Hi, Ian. 423 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:12,740 Well, first question is, 424 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,460 what was your main purpose for returning to Australia? 425 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,920 Well, because it's the only country in the world 426 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,000 where you can depend on the sun. 427 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,560 Uptight and Happening '70 were the ones 428 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:22,940 that I have very clear memories of. 429 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,040 I'll tell you what we have got, Ian. 430 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,520 What have you got? Which is always... 431 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,060 (STAMMERS) You surprise me what you've... 432 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,160 ..always good to see. 433 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,940 YOUNG: Suddenly in the mid-'60s, we had this revolution, 434 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,620 and Molly was a part of this revolution. 435 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,260 It was when we decided we wanted to make our music, 436 00:19:39,360 --> 00:19:42,820 and out of that came the adventures of Molly Meldrum. 437 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,320 And now one of our biggest records at the moment, 438 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:49,500 by Melbourne boy Russell Morris, and he is The Real Thing. 439 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,340 # Come and see the real thing 440 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,260 # Come and see the real thing Come and see... # 441 00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:57,380 He managed the band that I was in, Somebody's Image, 442 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:02,180 and produced our first two singles on a four-track machine, 443 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,100 and did such an unbelievable job. 444 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,320 Molly Meldrum was extremely interested 445 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,180 in the production of music, 446 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:10,940 as well as being an admirer. 447 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,480 Obviously he had to understand how it was made. 448 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,260 And I don't think a lot of people really know what a great producer 449 00:20:17,360 --> 00:20:18,860 he actually is. 450 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,940 Finding someone who had that talent was astronomical, 451 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,100 but that was the way it worked out. 452 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,940 # I am the real thing... # 453 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,300 What was happening in music, all the solo artists 454 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,400 and all the bands were just doing straight songs, 455 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,940 and Ian and I realised that I had to do something 456 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,020 that was out of the ordinary. 457 00:20:36,120 --> 00:20:40,340 (PLAYS OPENING CHORDS OF THE REAL THING) 458 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:41,820 From the start... 459 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,820 # Come and see the real thing 460 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,860 # Come and see the real thing Come and see 461 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,340 # Come and see the... # 462 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,460 It was that sort of up, sort of vibey sort of thing, 463 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,860 and we didn't...we just didn't wanna do it like that. 464 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:59,620 We needed something that was more spacy and more sort of psychedelic. 465 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,620 # Come and see the real thing 466 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,340 # Come and see the real thing Come and see... # 467 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,180 I remember when I first heard The Real Thing, Ian said, 468 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,260 "Listen, John Young's played us some songs, have a listen to them." 469 00:21:11,360 --> 00:21:16,420 So John played me a number of songs, and they were quite good. 470 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,520 I said, "They're pretty good," I said, 471 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,620 "but there are so many other solo artists and these are similar. 472 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,720 "What we're looking for is something different." 473 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,500 And Ian said, "Play him that other song." 474 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,420 And Johnny said, "No, it's not for a solo artist." 475 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,460 And Ian said, "Just play it to him," and he played The Real Thing. 476 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,860 And I looked at Ian and I said, "That's what I want." 477 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,980 And Ian said, "Yes, I know." 478 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,660 And Johnny thought we were crazy. 479 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,760 When I wrote The Real Thing, I didn't have Russell Morris in mind. 480 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,820 You know, I heard it more as a band song, Beatle-esque. 481 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,880 I don't think anybody else could have sung The Real Thing 482 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,260 as well as Russell has done it, and he's made it his own. 483 00:21:52,360 --> 00:21:54,940 (AUDIENCE SCREAMS) 484 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,740 ROWE: All John knows is that he wrote this song 485 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,380 and Molly wanted it, and it went into the studio 486 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,460 and about - I don't know - seven years later it came out as a record. 487 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,900 The word 'budget' meant nothing to him. 488 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,900 So, you know, he'd just sort of... 489 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,380 .."that was no good. 490 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,900 "Scrap it, do it again. Scrap it, do it again." 491 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,780 # There's a meaning there But the meaning there doesn't... # 492 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,460 Ian rang me and said, "I've got this brilliant idea. 493 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,560 "We're going to make it six minutes long." 494 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,620 I said, "Are you insane? How can we do that?" 495 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,580 He said, "I'll put sound effects." 496 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,300 I said, "Ian, there's at least three minutes of nothingness." 497 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:32,900 I said, "It will be boring." 498 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,220 He said, "Oh, just leave it to me. I'll fix it." 499 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:40,060 And I was very doubtful, but...he really pulled it off. 500 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,620 He was the architect of The Real Thing. 501 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:47,500 # I am not seeing you... # 502 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,600 YOUNG: Molly spent so much money, 503 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,320 and the people from the record company came 504 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,180 and listened to the unmixed stuff, 505 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,280 and to them it just sounded like nonsense, 506 00:22:56,360 --> 00:22:58,860 and it ran for seven minutes. 507 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,580 And so they said, "Molly, we're gonna take you off the production." 508 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,140 Even when the EMI people came down to hear it, 509 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,180 'cause they were so angry we'd spent so much money, 510 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,180 Ian took the tapes, he was terrified they'd hate it. 511 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,280 And he took the tapes so they couldn't hear it. 512 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,600 Molly rang the record company and said, 513 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,480 "I've got the master tapes here, that we've spent a fortune on, 514 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,500 "and I've got a lighter, 515 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,980 "and if you don't give me a fax 516 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,040 "guaranteeing that I'm gonna be able to finish this production, 517 00:23:26,120 --> 00:23:27,620 "I'm gonna burn the master." 518 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:32,660 # Trying hard to understand the meaning that you'll see in me... # 519 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:37,420 And they went nuts and said they had to hear it, so we played it for them 520 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,180 and of course Ian was right - they hated it. 521 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,400 They thought it was the biggest load of rubbish they'd ever heard. 522 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,760 And they went back to Sydney and they weren't going to release it. 523 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,800 So, Ian and I got in the car and drove up to Sydney 524 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,260 and went to all the radio stations and got the program managers to say, 525 00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:52,180 "Yes, we will play this." 526 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:53,780 # There's a meaning there 527 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,860 # But the meaning there doesn't really mean a thing... # 528 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,640 And, of course, the record company was totally thrilled 529 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,720 because it turned out to be 530 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,320 one of the biggest-selling records of all time. 531 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:08,740 # Am the real thing... # 532 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:13,300 The collaboration of Russell Morris, Ian Meldrum and John Young 533 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,540 with The Real Thing, I think, was... 534 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,260 It was probably an incredibly serendipitous moment for those guys. 535 00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:21,020 It really was a happy accident. 536 00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:23,120 It sounded like nothing else. 537 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:26,900 It just had, like, this whole sort of world in a song. 538 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,660 It was groundbreaking stuff then. 539 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,820 It was, "Whoa, you know, wow, they must be just tripping." 540 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,020 There I was, lying on the floor 541 00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:38,240 and I'm going...I'm listening to the beginning of The Real Thing 542 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,780 and then on and on, all this stuff, and Molly's got all this stuff, 543 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,740 and I'm going... 544 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,700 You know, I won't say the word, but, "What?" 545 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,860 You know, just...more surprises and more surprises and more surprises, 546 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,580 and sort of almost orgasmic, you know? 547 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,680 Sort of like lovemaking. 548 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,140 And then at the end... (MIMICS EXPLOSION) 549 00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,620 ..the atom bomb. 550 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,120 And I...I wept. I wept. 551 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,020 HEWETT: What a production! Gosh! 552 00:25:08,120 --> 00:25:10,220 And I didn't realise at the time, but, I mean, 553 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:15,420 Day By Day turned out to be just as big of a production. 554 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,460 Oh! What a lot of fire in that session. (GROWLS) 555 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,540 # Prepare ye 556 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:28,580 # The way of the Lord 557 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,540 # Prepare ye 558 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:37,620 # The way of the Lord... # 559 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:42,060 MAN: Colleen Hewett's record Day By Day took 18 months, 560 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,160 somewhere like that. 561 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,460 I mean, I pity the poor girl if she had to just keep singing 562 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,220 over and over again, which is what I've heard. 563 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,860 # The way of the Lord... # 564 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,340 The third week, I've had it up to here with Day By Day, 565 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,020 because it is a repetitive, gorgeous melody. 566 00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:04,620 And the boys were so good, their part was nailed. 567 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,720 And I came out, and he kept on just... 568 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:12,100 Well, I just walked up to him this day and I just lost it. 569 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:18,180 I went from no swearing, no aggressiveness, 570 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,100 want to get on with everybody, 571 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,260 but he just... I couldn't understand him. 572 00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:27,860 And I've grabbed him by his big pullover and I've just shoved... 573 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,780 'Cause he's only little. I wasn't this big then, either. 574 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,060 I shoved him up against the wall and I've gone bang! 575 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,980 (LAUGHS) He's gone, "Oh!" 576 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,500 Fainted down on the floor. 577 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,340 # To see thee more clearly... # 578 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,100 But you know what? 579 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,340 It's the biggest hit song I have ever had. 580 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,700 It's the most memorable arrangement. 581 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,180 The whole drama of it is Ian. 582 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,620 Ian doesn't go anywhere where there isn't a little touch of drama. 583 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,780 That's the way he works. That's the way he loves it. 584 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,800 Molly was the Phil Spector type of person from Australia. 585 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,200 Phil would be absolutely obsessed and manic as well. 586 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,280 Obviously I have a great deal of respect for him 587 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,900 because he was doing stuff. 588 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,000 And people have to remember the context. 589 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,700 It's 1969, for starters, 590 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,340 and he's out there doing something that's so off the track 591 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,440 of what you should be doing in those days - 592 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,380 so championing bands, going to Sunbury, you know. 593 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,180 This is in '69, '70, 594 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,280 all those early years when no-one was doing that. 595 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,080 It's like the guys that were in the bands. 596 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,260 You know, that was such...so wrong to do things like that. 597 00:27:34,360 --> 00:27:36,840 Now they've got courses in primary school to be a rock star. 598 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,540 It's ridiculous. I'll never forget Sunbury in '73 599 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:40,980 because Molly introduced me 600 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,180 to the crowd, and unbeknownst to me said, "Make him feel welcome. 601 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,760 "When he comes out I want you all to sort of light up your torches 602 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,540 "or your cigarette lighters and move towards the stage." 603 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,020 So I come out, wondering what I'm doing at a rock concert, 604 00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:57,140 and 40,000 kids, or whatever, all lit up their lighters 605 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,240 and walked towards the stage. 606 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,280 And I thought, "They're coming to get me." 607 00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:01,220 It was bloody Molly. 608 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,220 # Johnny's with a Julie 609 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,300 # He tells her she's his girl 610 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,420 # Says "I'll love you always"... # 611 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,520 MORRIS: He produced not only me, 612 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,200 he produced Ronnie Burns, he produced Colleen Hewett, 613 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,660 he produced the Ferrets, and they were all fabulous records. 614 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:20,660 # Ooh, ask no questions and get told no lies... # 615 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,740 MILLER: I recorded a demo in Sydney and I played it to him 616 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:29,140 and a couple of days later he called me in, he was all emotional, 617 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,900 and said, "We've gotta record this record. 618 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,500 "I'm ringing Gudinski." 619 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,380 There is no-one that has singly, in my lifetime, 620 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,240 done more for Australian music than Molly, nowhere near it. 621 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:40,620 Not even close to it. 622 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:41,860 # Don't fall in love 623 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,500 # Big mouths, bright lights... # 624 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:49,340 He had this ability to build a mix. I've never seen anyone else do it. 625 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,820 It's sort of like magic. 626 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,620 # Can't you see they're cheating all of you? # 627 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,400 He did the Ferrets record, which came out in a brown paper bag. 628 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,360 I was that angry with him, he took that long trying to get it right. 629 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,460 We credited it as "Produced by Willie Everfinish", 630 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,560 which was a joke, having a crack at him, 631 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,400 'cause we had a massive hit 632 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,520 and you need to, you know, capitalise and keep moving. 633 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,980 # Don't fall in love... # 634 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,680 Cheetah, not only did they have a massive hit in Australia 635 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,620 with Walking In the Rain, it was top 10 in Germany as well. 636 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,580 I think as a producer, Molly is very gifted. 637 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:27,460 I think he's got that sort of Phil Spector, uh...connection to music. 638 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,140 As well as being a fan, he can actually affect it, 639 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,240 he can actually change it, he can mould it. 640 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,220 He knows a lot about music, 641 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,940 but he also knows a lot about what connects with people 642 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,280 and what attaches to people. He's a really clever man. 643 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:41,820 # Don't fall in love 644 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,300 # Big cars, bright lights and bow ties... # 645 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,780 (COUNTDOWN THEME PLAYS) 646 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,020 (HORROR MOVIE BY SKYHOOKS PLAYS) 647 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,140 SYMONS: Pretty much every band worth its salt, 648 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,580 every band that ever recorded anything, 649 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,580 had an enormous amount of television experience 650 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:04,180 that bands in the United States or England simply didn't have 651 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,220 because we had this testing ground called Countdown. 652 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,000 There was a couple of things you had to do to be successful in Australia. 653 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,040 One of them was get your picture in the middle of TV Week 654 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,080 and the other one was to be on Countdown. 655 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,020 It was our version of Top Of the Pops, so everybody popped in. 656 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,060 I mean, it's more of a question of 657 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,980 what bands didn't Molly introduce me to. 658 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,380 It was a religion for us, you know. I mean, that was our church. 659 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,680 That was the first time I saw Molly in colour, 660 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,780 and what an eye-opener that was. 661 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,880 And I'll say do yourself a favour, 662 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,480 'cause you really must have a listen to this album - Sports... Ah. 663 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,680 "Do yourself a favour" - great catchcry - 664 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,120 was another Molly original that he ripped off 665 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,400 out of the Marilyn Monroe-Tony Curtis movie Some Like It Hot. 666 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,380 So, here I am, still this very naive, young boy from Brisbane, 667 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,340 go into Molly's bedroom. 668 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,180 Molly's in the bed, and it was a rather interesting negotiation 669 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,540 getting videos played on Countdown, 670 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,140 trying to be very serious sitting on the end of the bed, 671 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,520 asking Molly Meldrum to please play Simon and Garfunkel's latest video. 672 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,660 I don't think Australia had ever had the amount of overseas talent 673 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,940 coming to Australia, and of course they all did Countdown. 674 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,420 Molly knew his stuff. 675 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,460 He knew the questions and the songs, 676 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,560 and you could tell that he cared about it. 677 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,040 (ON PHONE) Hey, this is Paul Stanley from Kiss. 678 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,200 STANLEY: You have to remember that interviews 679 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,020 and talking transcontinent 680 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,940 and across the oceans was in its infancy then. 681 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,980 And it had the same kind of connotations 682 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,380 as when you saw the astronauts land on the moon. 683 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,480 (ON PHONE) Well, Molly, you know, you've always been a pal. 684 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,440 You've been with us since the beginning, 685 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,240 and I just wanted to wish all the viewers of Countdown 686 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,320 the best for 1980. 687 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,480 I remember the first time I met Molly. 688 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,100 It was at the Sebel Townhouse, um... 689 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,060 ..and it was in the bar. 690 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,420 And he had that look in his eye... 691 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:56,020 ..and I had that look in my eye, and we went 'connect'. 692 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,820 And he bought me a drink. 693 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,540 And I believe at the time it would have been 694 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,860 probably whisky and Diet Coke. 695 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,700 Madonna was untouchable. 696 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,260 No-one could get near Madonna unless you were an uber-star yourself. 697 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,360 And that was Molly Meldrum. 698 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,460 You can be guaranteed Molly would always mess up something - 699 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,560 and that was his beauty and his charm. 700 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,400 He kept calling me Jane. 701 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,800 And I said, "No, it's Gene." He said, "That's what I said - Jane." 702 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,460 We went back and forth on that for a while. 703 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,760 Whether it be the embarrassing moments 704 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,840 when he's interviewing Prince Charles, 705 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,600 which none of us ever forget. 706 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,080 (CLEARS THROAT) And now we come to the most important part of the... 707 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,240 MAN: Hold it, Ian. Hold it a minute. Alright. Alright. 708 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,360 Could I just have one glass of water, please? 709 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,440 (MIMICS MOLLY) "Jane, tell me something..." "No, no, Gene." 710 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:42,940 "Jane." "Gene." "Jane." 711 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,660 You don't have one of these, uh...teleprompters? 712 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:46,780 No. 713 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,600 Some of the artists when Molly just, one listen to their very first song, 714 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,860 Molly would just have that instinct and gift and feel to say, 715 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,120 "We're gonna break this artist here in Australia." 716 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,420 And that ranges from people like Blondie and ABBA, 717 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,220 who broke here in a big way, 718 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,260 Madonna, John Mellencamp, Meat Loaf, Cyndi Lauper. 719 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,360 Of course Billy Joel 720 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,760 and Michael Jackson, who loved Molly. 721 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,360 It was amazing every time Michael came to Australia 722 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,440 he wanted to see Molly, 723 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,800 and Molly would always secure that amazing interview with him. 724 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:21,140 Molly was influencing millions of dollars. 725 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,380 There was absolutely no doubt that Molly was a leader. 726 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,460 The fact that they put unsigned acts on Countdown was a great thing. 727 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,140 I mean, Supernaut came from nowhere with I Like It Both Ways. 728 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,820 Uh...be it Pseudo Echo. 729 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,200 My manager calls me up, all excited, and said, 730 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,960 "I've been speaking to Molly and he wants to put you on the show." 731 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,720 And I said, "But we don't even have a record deal," 732 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,800 and it was just a big blur from there on. 733 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,480 I think within a period of a couple of weeks, we were on Countdown. 734 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,260 # And I say, you say 735 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,020 # Weren't you listening? # 736 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,980 Molly's on there talking about some cool band that's about to explode 737 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,320 and, you record companies, you know, you'd better look out for them, 738 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,520 and I'm going, "Is he going to say us?" 739 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,800 And next thing he says, you know, "This is this band Pseudo Echo. 740 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,560 "You know, Australia, do yourself a favour, check them out." 741 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,040 And he really, you know, drummed it home and hyped us up. 742 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,120 And then it was probably about a month after that 743 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,080 that we started, you know, signing a deal. 744 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,180 It was great when shows like Countdown... 745 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,860 ..when Molly would support you. 746 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,380 That just gives you confidence, I guess. 747 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,940 He would go on, "Do yourself a favour," hold up an album, 748 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,900 and people would go to the record store and buy that album. 749 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,420 It's a strange question, you know? Um... 750 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,100 I mean, is there, like... Let me start again. 751 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,280 (LAUGHS) I didn't understand the question at all! 752 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,200 I think he had a huge impact on my career, personally. 753 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,220 I think he was instrumental in really getting me 754 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,260 and my image and my records, 755 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,360 and everything, and putting it on a platform that said, 756 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,520 "Hey, this is worth taking notice of, kids," you know. 757 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,600 And they did. 758 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,980 If you have somebody who's excited about music, it's infectious. 759 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,560 So he infected everybody with that excitement. 760 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,660 # Don't come in 761 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,260 # I'll only run and hide 762 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,180 # Who can it be now? # 763 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,580 The 100th show of Countdown started innocently enough 764 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,500 and then it arrived. 765 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:10,740 It was off its head and it...it was telling everybody it was jet lag. 766 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,380 Alright, now...Sherbet... 767 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:19,420 He'd flown in and then he must have had some sort of a pill 768 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,640 to sort of calm him down a little bit, 769 00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:24,160 and I do believe there may have been a vodka in there - 770 00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:26,240 just one, just one vodka. 771 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,640 Ian Meldrum has been exhausted, John. 772 00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:29,840 Oh, he is, man. I saw him. Completely out of his... 773 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,840 He's had enough, Ian, and he's gone, so... 774 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,400 Molly's the guy who was in the dressing-room 775 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,500 of these amazing performers. 776 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,580 What are INXS gonna come next? 777 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,460 And it might just take him to say, 778 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,420 "Hey, there's this really cool new band called INXS." 779 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,060 Yep, he's a connector. 780 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:49,460 He genuinely wants musicians to hear other musicians 781 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:54,780 and artists to be connected. And, uh...I can only imagine 782 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,780 all those little sparks of things that he's been a part of. 783 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,640 Molly connects with people 'cause he's such a dag. 784 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,180 And he's passionate. 785 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:06,660 But he's a big dag. 786 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,980 There was a little group called Duran Duran 787 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,540 who were on tour here in Australia, 788 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,780 and they were at a party at his house 789 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,860 and he kept playing this record I had just finished with INXS, 790 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,420 called Original Sin. 791 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,520 And they heard it, and he kept playing it 792 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,900 over and over and over again. 793 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,540 And I know that Simon Le Bon and Nick Rhodes, 794 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,580 all the guys were like going, "What IS that?" 795 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,060 Like, "That's, like, the most amazing thing we ever heard." 796 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,100 Um...and he said, you know, "It's Original Sin." 797 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,820 Like, "Who produced that?" "Nile Rodgers." 798 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,060 # Dream on, white boy White boy... # 799 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,980 That was a powerful moment for them. 800 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,060 Something magical about INXS 801 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:51,420 and being with Molly at that moment in their lives overwhelmed them. 802 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,740 Thank God, because, you know, it's given me lifelong friends 803 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,860 and a group that I've made hit records for over and over again. 804 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,380 # The reflex is a lonely child... # 805 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,700 Yo, Molly, thanks for playing Original Sin for Duran Duran, 806 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,220 'cause, I mean, that was our hook-up. 807 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,940 Had they not heard that in that situation, 808 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,040 maybe we would have never gotten together 809 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,760 or maybe it would have taken a hell of a lot longer. 810 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,180 But...here it is, history. Thanks. 811 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,620 # Isn't that bizarre? # 812 00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:25,340 Duran Duran has shot to number one first week in on the British charts. 813 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,460 Which of course makes Duran Duran very happy. 814 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,560 REYNE: I think it was instrumental 815 00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:31,600 that Molly might have played John Taylor the song Reckless. 816 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,440 He said, "That song of yours Reckless, I love that. 817 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,520 "We love that song. 818 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,800 "Why don't you guys come and support us 819 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,660 "on a tour of England and Scotland?" 820 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,260 I'm going, "Sure," 821 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,360 but inside going... (MOCKINGLY) .."Sure." 822 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,280 And we ended up touring with Duran Duran 823 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,360 when they were probably the biggest band, 824 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,580 when they were at the peak of their Duran-ness. 825 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,580 # Don't be so reckless 826 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,660 # Throw down your gun... # 827 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,360 And I think that Molly was instrumental in that. 828 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,780 So, thank you. Thank you, Ian. 829 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,380 We did this little secret gig called the Singing Budgie, 830 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,860 and Michael Hutchence was in the audience, 831 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,020 and we just started seeing each other. 832 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,300 Molly was there, and he was in the middle of the audience 833 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,940 just willing me to do well. 834 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,580 Mr Meldrum, this is my mother. 835 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,680 How do you do, Mrs Mitchell. Hello. 836 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,100 I would have been nervous meeting Molly for the first time 837 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,020 because he's Molly. 838 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,340 I mean, that's it. 839 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,380 But perhaps he was more nervous than me because he had to act. 840 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,520 And that's quite a talented daughter you've got there too, Mrs Mitchell. Yes. 841 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:40,220 Molly was that keen on the Minogues, became friends, became consistent. 842 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,300 # Whoa-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh... # 843 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,220 DANNII MINOGUE: Molly has been such a champion for my family. 844 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,460 His passion for music is one thing, 845 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,420 his passion for pop music is ridiculous. 846 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:59,220 And I guess he saw that we loved it too and we wanted to do that. 847 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,460 He's supported us and pop music 848 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,420 through times when 'pop' was a dirty word. 849 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,100 # Better the devil you know... # 850 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,300 My friendship with Molly just grew over time, 851 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,940 but I have to say he was such a strong supporter in the beginning, 852 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:19,260 and the beginning for me was very successful 853 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,780 but not a lot of critical acclaim whatsoever. 854 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,580 Just kind of this fresh, naive success. 855 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,180 So, to have his support was fantastic, 856 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,540 and I think...I don't know, 857 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,020 he kind of took me under his wing a little bit 858 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,340 and it really developed into a mutual respect 859 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,860 and a love and a friendship. 860 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,940 He defended me all the time. 861 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,980 And that, for me, is something that I've never forgotten, 862 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,340 I've never forgotten. 863 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,660 And I just thought, "Wow, what a man." 864 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,880 He's always been unbelievably supportive 865 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,600 and even probably when he shouldn't have been, in the early days. 866 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,960 They said only the prime minister could ever have a hat. 867 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,840 So, I'd like to present you with a Molly's hat. 868 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:07,820 (LAUGHS) 869 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,680 Molly, at the end of the day, is everybody's friend. 870 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,280 Unless you're trying to steal his hat. Then you're dead. 871 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:14,260 (MAN SHRIEKS) 872 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,400 And every time I see someone in Australia with a hat on 873 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,480 I think, "Maybe it's Molly!" 874 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,540 Yeah, Lindsay Fox gave him the hat, which is a bit of a poor effort 875 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,640 when you think about how many trucks he's got. 876 00:40:23,240 --> 00:40:25,240 Why didn't he give him a big truck, 877 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,720 a big shiny truck that he can drive around in? 878 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,920 MAN: The famous hat that he has today... 879 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,220 Yes. I bought for him in Aspen. 880 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:33,580 He argues about that. 881 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,680 That's where it started. Yes. 882 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,420 # And high on the hill looking over the bridge 883 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,060 # To the MCG... # 884 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,240 PAULA FOX: I remember when he arrived in the helicopter, 885 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,940 and as he got out he flashed a browneye. 886 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,900 (LAUGHS) 887 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,660 It wasn't attractive. 888 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,300 Oh, looking at Molly's backside 889 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,140 is something that I wasn't interested in. 890 00:40:56,240 --> 00:40:59,460 # I go in leaps and bounds... # 891 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,460 Every Christmas, Molly goes over to the Foxes and sits down. 892 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,360 Not only Christmas, probably Boxing Day, New Year's Day. 893 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,780 Like, quite often Molly will just be, like, you know, the extra kid. 894 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:15,060 He had 17 Christmases with us, and Nana Peele used to come. 895 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,380 Mrs Peele was my mother, and he just gravitated towards my mother. 896 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:20,460 And she adored him. 897 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,560 And he'd come round and have dinner with Mum 898 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,120 and she'd make him a lovely home-cooked meal. 899 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,500 So, she was only in a little house 900 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,060 and he was around the corner in a little house as well. 901 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,300 LINDSAY FOX: Molly would turn up there at any time 902 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,820 and jump into bed with this 75-year-old woman. 903 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,860 And this was just a regular occurrence 904 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,580 as a kid would jump into bed with his mum or dad. 905 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,100 And this must have gone on for 10 years. 906 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,160 Do you think your mother interfered with him? 907 00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:51,340 I don't think so. (INTERVIEWER LAUGHS) 908 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,060 I don't think so. He's terrible. God. 909 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,580 # I remember... # 910 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,600 He took her out one night, which was interesting. 911 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,820 He got her out of bed at about 11 o'clock at night 912 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,940 and he took her to a nightclub. 913 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,340 And they went into the city and he got out of the car to do something 914 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,060 and the car took off down the hill. 915 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,380 So, she didn't go nightclubbing with him again. 916 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,460 (CHEERING AND APPLAUSE) 917 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,000 SYMONS: Hey Hey was always a battleground. 918 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,400 It was everybody picking on everybody else, 919 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,380 and Molly got his fair share. 920 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,700 I mean, right from the outset, 921 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:27,780 if he thought a band was good, we would pooh-pooh the idea. 922 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,560 They sort of took the piss out of Molly on Hey Hey, 923 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,280 but, at the same time, they knew how important he was. 924 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,900 And it was all, you know, like, I mean, 925 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,400 really they took the piss out of everybody on Hey Hey It's Saturday. 926 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,240 He definitely had an impact on Powderfinger's career 927 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,860 through that really mainstream kind of medium. 928 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,580 Watch out for her. She is absolutely sensational. 929 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,680 I remember playing him my demos 930 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,220 in the very early stages of my writing career, 931 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,140 where his opinion was something that I valued very, very much. 932 00:42:57,240 --> 00:42:59,440 It took a lot of guts for me to kinda step up and go, 933 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,980 "Oh, excuse me, Molly, I know you get a lot of demos and stuff, 934 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,720 "but this is my band and, you know, if you could take a listen..." 935 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:11,260 I played my 14 12-year-old demos to Molly and we spoke about music, 936 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:15,460 and he just was...absolutely knew that I was gonna be doing music 937 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,780 and just completely supported that from day one. 938 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,720 (I'M STILL STANDING BY ELTON JOHN PLAYS) 939 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,940 That was a lot of fun, and that's when he got involved with Elton John 940 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:34,020 and those kind of people. # Happy birthday, dear Elton... # 941 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,520 Yeah, it totally makes sense that Elton and Molly were friends. 942 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:37,500 Totally. 943 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,660 Archibald Prizewinner Wes Walters 944 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,760 painted an incredible portrait of Molly, 945 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,940 and Elton John bought it for him at auction 946 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,300 and it stands proudly in Molly's house to this day. 947 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,520 # Your blood like winter freezes just... # 948 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,560 OK, I've been to a few parties with Molly 949 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,580 and I can't really talk about them. 950 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,680 (LAUGHS) As simple as that, you know. 951 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:55,900 (LAUGHS) 952 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,940 When Molly's in party mode 953 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,620 it's probably best if you're in party mode as well. 954 00:44:00,720 --> 00:44:03,560 And I think Ian obviously was a lot worldlier than we were 955 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,100 and, you know, let us pretend that we were the hard men of rock'n'roll 956 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,200 when I think he was actually living harder that us. 957 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,560 I think he rode a Harley-Davidson through my house one time. 958 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,420 # I'm still standing better than I ever did... # 959 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,420 DANNII MINOGUE: He's in a limo going up to the Dandenongs, 960 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,340 winding around the roads, 961 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,680 and, of course, Molly's having a few drinks on the way. 962 00:44:25,240 --> 00:44:26,340 Molly says to the driver, 963 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,940 "I need to stop and get out 'cause I need to go to the toilet." 964 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,420 He stands up, he's got his daks around his ankles, 965 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,500 he's having a whiz and falls off the side of the mountain! 966 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,820 Tumbling down between all the trees in the Dandenongs. "Aarggh!" 967 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,260 Swearing like anything. 968 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,180 # I'm still standing 969 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,020 # Yeah, yeah, yeah... # 970 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:53,220 I think when one got invited to Ian's parties it was like "Wow!" 971 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,620 He showed us his cowboy tattoo on his bum. 972 00:44:55,720 --> 00:44:57,760 (LAUGHS) 973 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,340 SAYER: Michael Chugg had a birthday party in Phuket, 974 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,100 and Molly was there. 975 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,240 Out he comes dressed as Marilyn Monroe. 976 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,260 It was... 977 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,360 Let's just say it was disastrous and great in equal measures. 978 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,840 The ugliest Marilyn Monroe I've ever seen in my life. 979 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,620 # Passionate kisses 980 00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:21,100 # Kiss me, kiss me, kiss me... # 981 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,580 We had a housekeeper come in, 982 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,060 and we forgot to tell her that Molly was having a sleepover. 983 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,820 So, she's working away in the kitchen, down comes Molly 984 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:35,100 simply wearing just the hat and pink budgie smugglers 985 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,220 that looked like a serious mankini. 986 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:38,740 # Ooh, ooh, ooh 987 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,820 # 'Cause I'm on fire when you... # 988 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,660 So, everybody is cheering at his house, another party, 989 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,060 and he presents me with a present of this. 990 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,040 And he's standing there hugging me and he's, like, "Check this out!" 991 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:55,660 (LAUGHS) And all of a sudden this gorgeous woman walks on 992 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,040 and starts singing Born To Try and dancing, 993 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,120 had way better legs than me - 994 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,140 and just, like, legs 11 - and I was just... 995 00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:04,840 It was the first time I'd ever been given a drag queen as a present. 996 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,460 # Passionate kisses... # 997 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,300 FANNING: Molly has a passion for pretty much everything in his life, 998 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,620 whether it be music, Egypt, vodka... 999 00:46:16,720 --> 00:46:18,580 (LAUGHS) ..or the spa. 1000 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,000 We are on camera, so some things we will take to our graves, 1001 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,140 but let me just say it was fun, 1002 00:46:23,240 --> 00:46:26,460 and whatever you think happened at the parties, it was worse. 1003 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,960 I can picture Shane Warne and Molly Meldrum in the spa. 1004 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,060 That's probably... 1005 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,060 ..it's a little disturbing, but yeah. 1006 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,900 Um, Moll's hand has been on my leg plenty of times, 1007 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,700 um...but it wasn't in the spa, no. 1008 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,800 I might have had my hand on someone else's leg in the spa, 1009 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:51,060 but it wasn't Molly's hand on mine. # Kiss me passionately... # 1010 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,160 GUDINSKI: At the Melbourne Town Hall 1011 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,820 they've got portraits of kings and queens of Moomba. 1012 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,840 I tell you, the photo of Molly, it looks like he had a monster night. 1013 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,780 It looks like he had no sleep whatsoever, ruffled and fluffled. 1014 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,880 CANHAM: You know that movie, Peter Sellers, The Party? 1015 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:09,380 (LAUGHS) The elephant scene in that often reminded me of Molly's house. 1016 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,980 Ian will, once he starts, you just disappear, 1017 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,160 because if he happens to get tired along the way 1018 00:47:15,240 --> 00:47:16,900 he's gonna pick a fight with you. 1019 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,100 He would always stand up for himself 1020 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,460 and he would always stand up for his friends. 1021 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,460 So, wouldn't take a backward step. 1022 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,080 I think he did get into a couple of little punch-ups. 1023 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:28,700 We had a massive blue out at the... 1024 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,920 And we got out of the car and we were swinging at each other, 1025 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,000 and there was mud, he was sinking in the grass, 1026 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,420 and two cars pulled up and said, "Can you not... 1027 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,340 "Can you stop picking on Molly!" He was picking on me. 1028 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,440 I think my wife knocked him out one night. 1029 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,200 You know, she punched him in the chin 1030 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,920 when he was having a fight about his label with Michael. 1031 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,000 So, I've actually grabbed him, I've shaken him. 1032 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,340 I remember shaking him 1033 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,580 and I've pushed his head right in the microwave. 1034 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,160 You cannot shut a microwave door with someone's head in it. 1035 00:48:06,240 --> 00:48:08,860 We'd been invited to a party at Molly Meldrum's house, 1036 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,980 and just being a young kid down here... 1037 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,340 We had to dress up. It was a dress-up party, an Egyptian theme. 1038 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:18,140 # One way or another I'm gonna find ya... # 1039 00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:20,880 The Egypt thing with Molly is pretty incredible. 1040 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,960 'Cause that was one of the things, when we went to his house 1041 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,160 to do an interview, that I suppose I expected 1042 00:48:25,240 --> 00:48:27,680 to see a lot of music memorabilia there. 1043 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,920 I mean, you are navigating around pyramids and sphinxes 1044 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,000 and stuff there more than anything. 1045 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,400 It's incredible. It's really beautiful, the collection of stuff that he's got. 1046 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,480 It's incredible. 1047 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,940 The interior of his home made a real big impact on me, 1048 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,040 'cause all Egyptian everywhere. 1049 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,260 And it was like, "Oh, my God, this is amazing." 1050 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,120 Apparently he walks round his house in his pharaoh's robes. 1051 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,200 But I haven't seen that. 1052 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,200 I'm surprised he hasn't pulled the house down 1053 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,800 and just built a fuckin' pyramid. 1054 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,680 He was probably into bandage. (LAUGHS) 1055 00:48:55,720 --> 00:48:58,160 When he was escorting Lady Diana during Rocking the Royals, 1056 00:48:58,240 --> 00:49:00,360 she said, "I want to go back to your house." 1057 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,440 So, he comes back to the house 1058 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,160 and his assistant's there preparing lunch 1059 00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:07,000 for, you know, just Molly really, and he then says, 1060 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,700 "Oh, please welcome to our house Lady Diana." 1061 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,720 And the girl sort of said something like, 1062 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,160 "Oh, yeah, and I'm a monkey's uncle," you know! 1063 00:49:15,240 --> 00:49:19,100 Completely... And that is... that is the tone of Molly's home. 1064 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,160 Yeah, look, I think we might have both featured 1065 00:49:21,240 --> 00:49:26,500 on the front of his fence at various stages throughout our careers. 1066 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,640 What's more bizarre is what's on the other side of the fence. 1067 00:49:29,720 --> 00:49:34,020 His house is just...it's an absolute museum. It's a freak show. 1068 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,260 (HOWZAT BY SHERBET PLAYS) 1069 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,020 VIZARD: You could have an interview 1070 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:40,820 where Molly's about to break 1071 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,660 the most significant rock'n'roll story in history, 1072 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,380 but Molly, sitting on that story, would be distracted 1073 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,620 if there was a change to the St Kilda line-up. 1074 00:49:49,720 --> 00:49:51,860 # Howzat... # 1075 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,960 GUDINSKI: Only Molly would do the outrageous 1076 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,840 and run onto the Junction Oval 1077 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,020 to give the St Kilda captain Alan Morrow advice. 1078 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,800 RIEWOLDT: The first time I met him was at the St Kilda Team of the Century. 1079 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,240 You know, there were a lot of St Kilda Football Club legends there, 1080 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,320 but for me and a few of the other young guys, 1081 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,280 we just made a beeline for Molly. 1082 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,240 And I wanted to meet him as opposed to all the footballers in the room. 1083 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,020 COMMENTATOR: It's taken by Breen! 1084 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:14,340 It's a...point. 1085 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,440 GUDINSKI: When I was very young, 1086 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,860 St Kilda won the only grand final they'd won in 100 years, 1087 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,660 and the true story was that Molly passed out 1088 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,220 when the scores were level, 30 seconds to go, 1089 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,740 and missed St Kilda kicking the winning point. 1090 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,620 There's the siren! St Kilda have won it! 1091 00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:36,020 When the siren sounded, we all went up hysterically and he fainted. 1092 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:37,460 # Howzat... # 1093 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,380 GUDINSKI: How he got into the dressing-rooms was beyond me. 1094 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,660 Drinking champagne with St Kilda's captain Darrel Baldock, 1095 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:44,660 what a hero. 1096 00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:50,260 I was the president at the football club there from about '79 to '86, 1097 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,500 and Molly was a standard feature. 1098 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,600 And he'd draw more attention 1099 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,200 than the footballers running out of the race. 1100 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,300 # Howzat 1101 00:50:58,400 --> 00:50:59,780 # You messed about... # 1102 00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,080 WARNE: I think it's quite funny that Molly paints his fence 1103 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,160 in all the different things. 1104 00:51:03,240 --> 00:51:05,240 Especially I like it when he does the Saints. 1105 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:06,660 It's great about the Storm too. 1106 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,760 But when the Ashes are on, 1107 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,760 that's sort of when the real cricket comes in 1108 00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:11,740 and Molly does his fence in Ashes stuff, 1109 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,840 Aussie flags, all those sorts of things. 1110 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,180 And, no, he's brilliant. 1111 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,400 I think he was, like, one of the guys who championed rugby league 1112 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,200 in Melbourne, and he was one of the first guys that really brought, 1113 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,520 you know, more and more people to the game. 1114 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,520 So, you know, I think rugby league owes him as well. 1115 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,000 You know, he's always been our number one supporter, 1116 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,100 and a very loyal supporter at that. 1117 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,460 Molly has a wicked sense of humour. 1118 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,140 That's another thing we connect on. 1119 00:51:35,240 --> 00:51:37,920 He's got a great sense of humour. He's a funny bastard, you know. 1120 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,500 Molly's funny by being Molly. 1121 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,840 He's funny because he's a unique one-off. 1122 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,180 He's funny 'cause he's eccentric. He's funny 'cause he wears a hat. 1123 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,080 And he's funny because he's doing a review of an artist 1124 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,160 and he's brought the wrong records. 1125 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,680 Some people tell jokes, some people construct scenarios, 1126 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,500 some people do one-liners, Molly doesn't do that. 1127 00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,540 Molly is funny 'cause he's Molly. 1128 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:03,060 And one day at the Melbourne Cup, when we'd had quite a big day, 1129 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,520 I looked over at Molly and someone had offered him some chips, 1130 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,600 and before you know it he grabbed one 1131 00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:10,820 and he went to light it like a cigarette. 1132 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,100 Oh, I loved playing Molly. He was my favourite. 1133 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,180 He's just, like, true blue, 1134 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,740 um...Aussie icon legend, you know. 1135 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,860 He's a bloody ripper, you know. 1136 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,540 He's a very, very bright man, you know. 1137 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,820 And, regardless of people thinking 1138 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,340 that he can't string two words together, 1139 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:31,900 that is not the case. 1140 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:36,500 Even when Molly's had a few... he still makes a lot of sense. 1141 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,640 GUDINSKI: I think a lot of people didn't realise 1142 00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:42,160 till he had that incredible success for charity on Millionaire. 1143 00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:45,080 I think that really showed how intelligent Molly was. 1144 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,300 (TOTAL CONTROL BY THE MOTELS PLAYS) 1145 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,460 Molly and Michael Gudinski have a sort of... 1146 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,780 They love each other, they've done great things together. 1147 00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:55,880 They've been through thick and thin together, 1148 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,800 they've seen the best and the worst of each other. 1149 00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,700 # Looking counterclockwise 1150 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,500 # Knowing what could happen... # 1151 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,320 KYLIE MINOGUE: You can't talk about Molly without talking about Michael, 1152 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,980 because they're like brothers, 1153 00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,320 or like two little old ladies bickering. 1154 00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,820 For no reason, Ian started screaming at Michael 1155 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,980 and accused him of something 1156 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,360 and picked up papers and threw them in his face and then stormed out. 1157 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,360 And I walked out and I said, "That wasn't Michael's fault." 1158 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,440 And he said, "Yeah, I know." 1159 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:27,780 He said, "I was tired. I needed to pep myself up." (LAUGHS) 1160 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,740 # Over you... # 1161 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,840 GUDINSKI: We had a label together with Molly, 1162 00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,360 Melodian Records, which we started. 1163 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,580 And that's the respect that we had at Mushroom for Molly, 1164 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:40,980 was to create his own label, and out of that came Peter Andre. 1165 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:42,740 Now, people don't know this - 1166 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,500 he didn't want any credit for it at the time - 1167 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,920 the song was called Mysterious Boy. 1168 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,740 Now, Molly changed that lyric to Mysterious Girl. Say no more. 1169 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,180 # Mysterious girl I wanna get close to you 1170 00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:57,940 # Oh, baby, baby... # 1171 00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,780 Peter supported Madonna. There was like a natural... 1172 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,840 I'm getting goose bumps actually, talking about that thing. 1173 00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,380 It's true, he changed that word, which was a critical word, 1174 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,480 and when you think about Molly, 1175 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,400 you think he would have been happy with the word 'boy', wouldn't you? 1176 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:10,900 But Molly was thinking. 1177 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,900 Now, Ian, you've had your finger on the pulse of... 1178 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,100 I beg your pardon? 1179 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,200 SAYER: Molly's sexuality... 1180 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,540 Let's not forget that a gay man working in television 1181 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:23,140 in the '70s and '80s would have got thrown straight out of the room. 1182 00:54:23,240 --> 00:54:25,360 It's a sex that you've never experienced before? 1183 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,440 I find this very hard to believe. 1184 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:28,960 (GIGGLES) Now, let's control ourselves. 1185 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,520 Your reputation precedes you, Mr Meldrum. 1186 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:31,620 I know. 1187 00:54:31,720 --> 00:54:33,940 Molly is not given enough credit 1188 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:38,420 for being the first out gay man 1189 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,300 in Australian media. 1190 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,440 REYNE: Molly, just he way he just embraced, 1191 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,440 was completely open and proud and straight-up, 1192 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,820 and it's brave now, but to be brave, you know, in the '70s! 1193 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,220 Seriously brave. 1194 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:53,260 Some girls do... and some girls don't. 1195 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,980 GAVIN WOOD: Well, what do you do? Oh, please, Gav. 1196 00:54:56,080 --> 00:55:01,180 Ian was engaged a couple of times to lovely girls. 1197 00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,500 But they just never worked out, 1198 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,700 and, you know, so what? 1199 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,840 Neither did my three marriages! I mean... 1200 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,980 On the last Countdown tour, we got married. 1201 00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,900 He said he was going to go straight for me 1202 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,460 and he proposed to me on stage. 1203 00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,480 It was lovely. I still have the ring. I didn't give it back to him. 1204 00:55:29,460 --> 00:55:31,500 There's another side to Molly that people, you know, 1205 00:55:31,580 --> 00:55:34,320 obviously don't see, and that's what a wonderful parent he can be. 1206 00:55:34,420 --> 00:55:35,920 I mean, he's got Morgan. 1207 00:55:36,020 --> 00:55:38,380 GUDINSKI: In the mid-'80s, Molly adopted the baby 1208 00:55:38,460 --> 00:55:41,780 of a very good friend of his, Jan. His name is Morgan. 1209 00:55:41,300 --> 00:55:44,040 GOODREM: I would have just turned 14 when I first met Molly. 1210 00:55:44,140 --> 00:55:46,520 It was at a Christmas party - HIS Christmas party - 1211 00:55:46,620 --> 00:55:48,320 at his wonderful Egyptian house. 1212 00:55:48,420 --> 00:55:51,520 Then I was sitting at the bench around the corner in his house, 1213 00:55:51,620 --> 00:55:53,620 and I was just sitting there by myself, 1214 00:55:52,940 --> 00:55:54,980 'cause there were a lot of adults there, obviously, 1215 00:55:55,060 --> 00:55:58,840 and Morgan, his young son, who was about the same age as me 1216 00:55:58,940 --> 00:56:00,840 came up and sat on the bench next to me. 1217 00:56:00,940 --> 00:56:04,560 And we kind of got chatting and chatted away kind of all night. 1218 00:56:04,660 --> 00:56:06,400 So, I found someone my age. 1219 00:56:06,500 --> 00:56:09,320 And all of a sudden Morgan and I just became really great friends. 1220 00:56:09,420 --> 00:56:12,800 And really then, that was the start of me becoming 1221 00:56:12,900 --> 00:56:15,000 a part of Molly's family on a really family side, 1222 00:56:15,100 --> 00:56:16,760 it didn't really become music first. 1223 00:56:16,860 --> 00:56:21,480 And when he first heard those early songs in demo form of Delta's music, 1224 00:56:21,580 --> 00:56:23,580 he just knew that was something special. 1225 00:56:23,380 --> 00:56:26,400 Because we had such a personal family relationship 1226 00:56:26,500 --> 00:56:28,920 I've been able to ask him questions throughout my life. 1227 00:56:29,020 --> 00:56:32,520 INTERVIEWER: Was it important to you for Molly to be proud of you? 1228 00:56:32,620 --> 00:56:34,920 Yeah, very much so. 1229 00:56:35,020 --> 00:56:37,840 Sorry, that's a really hard one. The way that hits me. 1230 00:56:37,940 --> 00:56:39,360 Um...yes. 1231 00:56:39,460 --> 00:56:41,120 Yeah, sorry, sorry. 1232 00:56:41,220 --> 00:56:42,680 Um...yeah. 1233 00:56:42,780 --> 00:56:45,200 (STAMMERS) It's, um...it's...it's... 1234 00:56:45,300 --> 00:56:47,300 Sorry. 1235 00:56:47,900 --> 00:56:52,120 Yes, it's been really important for Molly to be proud of me doing music. 1236 00:56:52,220 --> 00:56:54,360 Um... 1237 00:56:54,460 --> 00:56:58,440 You know, uh...I guess when people really support you and care 1238 00:56:58,540 --> 00:57:01,880 and, um, uh... 1239 00:57:01,980 --> 00:57:04,560 ..when they really take the time to listen and care 1240 00:57:04,660 --> 00:57:06,900 and talk you through the different chapters that you go through, 1241 00:57:06,980 --> 00:57:08,760 you value that. 1242 00:57:08,860 --> 00:57:11,840 And I've only ever wanted to make him proud as an artist 1243 00:57:11,940 --> 00:57:13,560 and as an adult. 1244 00:57:13,660 --> 00:57:17,080 Morgan's almost 30 now, and he's looked after him, 1245 00:57:17,180 --> 00:57:19,420 he's brought him up, and now Morgan's got a child, 1246 00:57:19,500 --> 00:57:21,820 so Molly gets to be a grandpa. 1247 00:57:26,500 --> 00:57:29,680 I rang him and the phone didn't answer. 1248 00:57:29,780 --> 00:57:33,400 So, I thought, "Oh, he's in the backyard doing something." 1249 00:57:33,500 --> 00:57:37,080 So, I rang Joe the gardener, and Joe answers the phone. 1250 00:57:37,180 --> 00:57:39,420 He says, "Yeah, I'm just in the shed out the back 1251 00:57:39,500 --> 00:57:42,420 "and Molly's come down from the roof to answer your call, 1252 00:57:42,500 --> 00:57:44,540 "and he missed it, he's gone back up." 1253 00:57:44,620 --> 00:57:47,220 And I've gone, "Oh, right, OK, well, I'll speak to him later." 1254 00:57:47,300 --> 00:57:51,200 And then straightaway, within seconds of us talking, 1255 00:57:51,300 --> 00:57:53,300 he just yelled through the phone, 1256 00:57:53,140 --> 00:57:56,400 "Molly's just fallen off the roof. He's hit his head. 1257 00:57:56,500 --> 00:57:59,960 "Call an ambulance." NEWSREADER: Molly's fight for life. 1258 00:58:00,060 --> 00:58:04,080 Family, friends and celebrities rally for a favourite son. 1259 00:58:04,180 --> 00:58:06,800 MILLER: In 2011, we were all just sitting around 1260 00:58:06,900 --> 00:58:11,080 preparing for the onslaught of family and everybody for Christmas, 1261 00:58:11,180 --> 00:58:16,600 and we heard that Ian was seriously ill after falling off the ladder. 1262 00:58:16,700 --> 00:58:18,700 VIZARD: Mate, what are you doing for Christmas? 1263 00:58:18,580 --> 00:58:20,580 What's your plan of attack? 1264 00:58:20,020 --> 00:58:23,680 MOLLY: I'm leaving to go to Bangkok next Tuesday. 1265 00:58:23,780 --> 00:58:26,320 (ON RECORDING) And then I'm going to Phuket 1266 00:58:26,420 --> 00:58:28,040 and staying there for a month. 1267 00:58:28,140 --> 00:58:31,760 INTERVIEWER: Tell us about that day in December 2011. 1268 00:58:31,860 --> 00:58:34,680 Molly was a regular guest on my radio show. 1269 00:58:34,780 --> 00:58:40,720 It was the weekend before Christmas and Molly came in to have his chat. 1270 00:58:40,820 --> 00:58:44,560 Molly and I were talking about how important your health is. 1271 00:58:44,660 --> 00:58:50,440 And then that night Molly had been in a horrible, horrible accident. 1272 00:58:50,540 --> 00:58:54,000 My phone started to ring and it was the media. 1273 00:58:54,100 --> 00:58:56,920 And the first call I just answered naturally, without thinking, 1274 00:58:57,020 --> 00:59:00,240 and they said, "We've heard that Molly's had a horrific fall." 1275 00:59:00,340 --> 00:59:02,200 And I've just all of a sudden... 1276 00:59:02,300 --> 00:59:03,960 I think that was the moment when I went, 1277 00:59:04,060 --> 00:59:05,560 "Oh, holy shit, this is serious." 1278 00:59:05,660 --> 00:59:07,080 I got a call from Yael. 1279 00:59:07,180 --> 00:59:09,720 Yael, you know, was crying. 1280 00:59:09,820 --> 00:59:11,680 She said Ian had had a fall, 1281 00:59:11,780 --> 00:59:15,280 come to the Alfred as quick as you can. 1282 00:59:15,380 --> 00:59:17,380 My wife and I went straight there 1283 00:59:17,180 --> 00:59:19,960 and we were met by the doctor's there 1284 00:59:20,060 --> 00:59:23,840 and we went into a sort of a side room. 1285 00:59:23,940 --> 00:59:27,400 He was...he'd just arrived, 1286 00:59:27,500 --> 00:59:30,840 and I guess within about half an hour I was in there to see him. 1287 00:59:30,940 --> 00:59:32,940 He was obviously unconscious, he was in a very bad way. 1288 00:59:33,020 --> 00:59:35,020 It was a very distressing moment. 1289 00:59:34,420 --> 00:59:38,560 What happened, he tried to climb up with his mobile phone, 1290 00:59:38,660 --> 00:59:40,840 his bloody cigarettes, 1291 00:59:40,940 --> 00:59:44,680 and you can't climb a ladder with those in your hands. 1292 00:59:44,780 --> 00:59:46,640 And he lost...and he fell. 1293 00:59:46,740 --> 00:59:49,420 But what he did as he came down, he collected the ladder, 1294 00:59:49,500 --> 00:59:55,960 which was not on a 45-degree pitch, it was more like a 70-degree pitch, 1295 00:59:56,060 --> 00:59:57,440 and so as he went down, 1296 00:59:57,540 --> 01:00:00,140 every part of his body hit those rungs of the ladder. 1297 01:00:00,220 --> 01:00:04,040 So, his jaw, his shoulder, his rib cage, his elbow, 1298 01:00:04,140 --> 01:00:05,880 his legs, his knee, all of that. 1299 01:00:05,980 --> 01:00:09,340 And then, he said, "The only thing I can't remember was the concrete at the bottom." 1300 01:00:09,420 --> 01:00:11,420 It's a waiting game, 1301 01:00:10,420 --> 01:00:13,460 so certainly not out of the woods by any stretch of the imagination. 1302 01:00:13,540 --> 01:00:15,540 Molly's still in an induced coma, 1303 01:00:15,060 --> 01:00:17,220 and I suspect that's gonna be the case for a number of days. 1304 01:00:17,300 --> 01:00:19,280 # Your arms are warm 1305 01:00:19,380 --> 01:00:21,520 # They make me feel... # 1306 01:00:21,620 --> 01:00:23,620 COHN: The surgeons came in and said, 1307 01:00:22,900 --> 01:00:26,720 "Look, we have to do emergency surgery on his head." 1308 01:00:26,820 --> 01:00:30,320 And as soon as they said that, I just fell apart, 1309 01:00:30,420 --> 01:00:33,460 because it was, like, "What?" 1310 01:00:34,660 --> 01:00:37,960 I can't begin to tell you the shock. 1311 01:00:38,060 --> 01:00:40,840 Like, um, even now I don't like talking about it. 1312 01:00:40,940 --> 01:00:42,320 It was just awful, awful. 1313 01:00:42,420 --> 01:00:44,980 It's horrible when your friends get sick and you think, 1314 01:00:45,060 --> 01:00:47,060 am I not gonna see them again? 1315 01:00:46,300 --> 01:00:49,340 You know, I really need to tell them a lot of things, you know. 1316 01:00:49,420 --> 01:00:52,800 It was like a family member being unwell. 1317 01:00:52,900 --> 01:00:54,900 You know, it's really, really tough times. 1318 01:00:54,820 --> 01:00:56,880 It was so... 1319 01:00:56,980 --> 01:00:59,860 ..disturbing to think that... 1320 01:01:01,620 --> 01:01:03,040 ..he mightn't survive. 1321 01:01:03,140 --> 01:01:06,300 Of course you fear the worst, and, uh... 1322 01:01:08,860 --> 01:01:12,480 ..oh, I just felt for him, like everyone else, yeah. 1323 01:01:12,580 --> 01:01:16,040 The thought of someone like him 1324 01:01:16,140 --> 01:01:20,800 losing his life to an accident like that was, um...heartbreaking. 1325 01:01:20,900 --> 01:01:23,000 And I followed it every day. 1326 01:01:23,100 --> 01:01:27,080 He wouldn't have had the accident, but what he did, 1327 01:01:27,180 --> 01:01:29,720 it was getting close to four o'clock. 1328 01:01:29,820 --> 01:01:32,580 And I dropped in and we were sitting around and he said, 1329 01:01:32,660 --> 01:01:34,560 "Listen, I need you to take 1330 01:01:34,660 --> 01:01:38,000 "the Vanessa Amorosi masters to Sing Sing." 1331 01:01:38,100 --> 01:01:41,360 Yeah, it wouldn't have probably happened 1332 01:01:41,460 --> 01:01:43,460 if he hadn't have asked me 1333 01:01:42,820 --> 01:01:44,900 to take those master tapes to Sing Sing. 1334 01:01:44,980 --> 01:01:50,280 # I'm in chains 1335 01:01:50,380 --> 01:01:55,480 # I'm in chains 1336 01:01:55,580 --> 01:01:57,320 # I'm in chains... # 1337 01:01:57,420 --> 01:02:01,360 I'd just joined Twitter and I suddenly saw Molly's name trending, 1338 01:02:01,460 --> 01:02:03,000 and I thought, "Well, what's..." 1339 01:02:03,100 --> 01:02:05,200 You know, normally that's not such a good thing. 1340 01:02:05,300 --> 01:02:08,060 Mum called me on the phone and, yeah, it really rattled me. 1341 01:02:08,140 --> 01:02:11,360 Then it seemed to be it was a life-or-death situation, 1342 01:02:11,460 --> 01:02:15,800 and this all happened over maybe about 12 hours. 1343 01:02:15,900 --> 01:02:18,740 I told Elton, I told Mick Jagger and that as well, and they were, like, 1344 01:02:18,820 --> 01:02:22,120 "Oh, my God," you know, "Please pass on our best to Molly." 1345 01:02:22,220 --> 01:02:25,760 I think I went through the "He'll be absolutely fine, right?" 1346 01:02:25,860 --> 01:02:27,240 Like, you know, absolutely fine. 1347 01:02:27,340 --> 01:02:31,200 Like, I couldn't stomach that he wasn't gonna get through that. 1348 01:02:31,300 --> 01:02:33,300 We're really concerned for his life. 1349 01:02:32,780 --> 01:02:35,060 I mean, this is a life-and-death matter. 1350 01:02:35,140 --> 01:02:37,840 Here he was perfectly well yesterday 1351 01:02:37,940 --> 01:02:40,020 and here he is today fighting for his life. 1352 01:02:40,100 --> 01:02:42,900 COHN: Brian and I went and saw him before his operation. 1353 01:02:42,980 --> 01:02:45,620 We looked at each other, and there was just that moment of... 1354 01:02:45,700 --> 01:02:48,440 We could see the man was fighting for his life. 1355 01:02:48,540 --> 01:02:52,160 He was fighting for each breath, and I thought, 1356 01:02:52,260 --> 01:02:55,840 "You can't get rid of him that easy. No way." Sorry. 1357 01:02:55,940 --> 01:02:59,320 Throughout it all, my prime concern was for Ian Meldrum, 1358 01:02:59,420 --> 01:03:00,640 it wasn't for Molly Meldrum. 1359 01:03:00,740 --> 01:03:02,740 It was for Ian Meldrum, my brother. 1360 01:03:01,940 --> 01:03:05,440 And I think that's how it had to be treated - 1361 01:03:05,540 --> 01:03:09,080 treated as someone in your family who's in an hour of need 1362 01:03:09,180 --> 01:03:11,840 and, therefore, you've gotta respond to that need. 1363 01:03:11,940 --> 01:03:14,620 The doctor that operated on Molly was a friend of Lindsay's, 1364 01:03:14,700 --> 01:03:17,080 and they were quite concerned. 1365 01:03:17,180 --> 01:03:19,740 They fought really hard to save Molly's life. 1366 01:03:19,820 --> 01:03:23,280 He did a magnificent job. That surgeon was sensational. 1367 01:03:23,380 --> 01:03:25,380 # Any minute now 1368 01:03:28,140 --> 01:03:30,480 # My ship is coming in... # 1369 01:03:30,580 --> 01:03:32,580 Why were you up a ladder, Moll? 1370 01:03:33,780 --> 01:03:39,380 # I keep checking the horizon 1371 01:03:42,540 --> 01:03:45,620 # And I'll stand on the bow 1372 01:03:48,500 --> 01:03:51,620 # And feel the waves come crashing 1373 01:03:54,460 --> 01:03:56,460 # Come crashing down 1374 01:03:57,380 --> 01:04:03,120 # Down, down on me... # 1375 01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,640 Fans of Molly Meldrum are being told to be patient 1376 01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:07,900 as they wait for news on the music guru 1377 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,780 who fell from a ladder at his home on Thursday night. 1378 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,780 Luckily, he survived. 1379 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,120 And I think he still suffers a bit of pain 1380 01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,200 with the problems that he had. 1381 01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:20,160 I know he's got lots of plates and that in his leg. 1382 01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,640 KLEMENS: I got a phone call from, I think it was his brother, 1383 01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,740 if I remember, saying, "Look, there's a little issue. 1384 01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,440 "Molly's actually escaped." I said, "Escaped from what?" 1385 01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:30,520 And he said, "Escaped from..." 1386 01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:31,880 I said, "Well, escaped from hospital?!" 1387 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,600 So, he'd had enough and he'd walked home. 1388 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:35,780 I could feel that Molly was up to something. 1389 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,300 Not only was he busting to get out of hospital, 1390 01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,860 he was asking me questions about the location 1391 01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:44,300 when he crosses the road to go into his physio, etc. 1392 01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:48,820 When he went to rehab, he just turned and started walking home. 1393 01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:50,920 He's a, you know, bastard, he won't stay in hospital. 1394 01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:52,680 You know, they turn their back and he keeps going for walks, 1395 01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:54,640 and trying to walk home. 1396 01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:55,720 So, he wanted to be in his own house. 1397 01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,200 So, at that point I realised 1398 01:04:56,760 --> 01:05:00,180 he maybe still be sort of recovering, but he was gonna be OK. 1399 01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:03,160 The escape was great because the escape was him saying, 1400 01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:04,740 "I'm ready to come home now." 1401 01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:06,840 And then I just used to cook some food 1402 01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,440 and go over and sit with him and talk to him. 1403 01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,960 HAY: I think he has incredible intestinal fortitude 1404 01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,740 and he has a great constitution. 1405 01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,560 Very strong. Like, he's physically incredibly strong. 1406 01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,280 SLATER: The first time I saw Molly after the accident was at a game. 1407 01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,320 We'd just narrowly beaten our opponents, 1408 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,820 and I was sitting on the field, you know, waving to the crowd, 1409 01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,500 and I just seen the hat up in a stand, 1410 01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:32,600 and above the hat was his hand 1411 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,080 waving a purple and white scarf around. 1412 01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,480 So, you know, it was a great moment. 1413 01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,120 You just won't find a better person on this planet. 1414 01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,400 WARNE: He's always got along well with my mum and dad, my brother. 1415 01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:44,480 He gets along great with my children too. 1416 01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:47,260 So, you know, a true friend knows your family, 1417 01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:49,360 you know, they know your parents, they know your children, 1418 01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:51,800 they know...they've shared some experiences with you too. 1419 01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,020 JACKMAN: When Molly met my son, my son was about six, 1420 01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:55,700 and he's really into nature. 1421 01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,300 And he was just...I watched him, he was watching my son, 1422 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,420 who was off sort of in the garden, and we were in a group talking, 1423 01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,300 and he just sort of went off and just... 1424 01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,060 I looked over and just realised he'd been hanging with Oscar 1425 01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:07,620 for I don't know how long. 1426 01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:11,280 And at the end of the day, he took off his hat and gave it to Oscar. 1427 01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:16,260 And Oscar...to this day, has that hat, treasured that hat. 1428 01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:18,500 And that really... It's so weird. 1429 01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,600 Oscar went through a period where he hadn't worn the hat 1430 01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:21,860 for a couple of years, 1431 01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:25,700 and he put it on one morning and he wore it to school. 1432 01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:29,740 And that was the day that Molly had that tragic accident, when he fell. 1433 01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,040 You know, he is, he's a good friend of the family's 1434 01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:33,700 and a great friend of mine. 1435 01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:37,060 As a parent, when you see someone outside of all the hullabaloo 1436 01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:40,980 and drinks and meeting, when you see them walking over 1437 01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:47,220 and just hanging with your kid, that's why people love Molly. 1438 01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:48,620 That's why I love him. 1439 01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,720 He's great friends with my wife, 1440 01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:53,860 and she's done him up a painting of him and Ziggy, 1441 01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,420 his little dog, and the hat, so... 1442 01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,260 # Say goodbye # Say goodbye... # 1443 01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:01,860 His whole kind of thing was bringing the music 1444 01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:03,960 and the bands to the people, 1445 01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,540 but for us he was just as kind of famous. 1446 01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:09,580 I think Molly has always been the ambassador of rock'n'roll. 1447 01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:13,740 And hopefully every country has a Molly Meldrum. 1448 01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:15,840 The people that he's been able to interview, 1449 01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:17,420 which nobody else could get - 1450 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:19,600 you know, the biggest acts in the universe - 1451 01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:23,180 Molly had 'em because of his love of music and the industry 1452 01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,280 and the people in the industry. 1453 01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:28,740 He was the voice of Australia, as far as music went, in the UK. 1454 01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:30,840 Molly's always been obsessed with music 1455 01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,200 and new bands that are coming up, and still is. 1456 01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:34,080 You know, very rarely do you get people 1457 01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:39,380 where that enthusiasm and interest and energy keeps going. 1458 01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:41,840 Once Molly was out of hospital, it wasn't too long 1459 01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,820 before he found a great new artist - Sarah Rzek - 1460 01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:48,880 and recorded and produced a great new single for her. 1461 01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:53,920 # And your eyes are closing down on the day. # 1462 01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:58,800 A good friend of mine in the audience tonight. 1463 01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:00,300 I've known this guy seems like all my life. 1464 01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,400 Put your hands together for Molly Meldrum. 1465 01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:03,780 Come on, guys. 1466 01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:07,140 (CHEERING AND APPLAUSE) 1467 01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:08,780 What a character. 1468 01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:12,420 I like to feel my life has been more colourful with him in it. 1469 01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:13,580 Thank you, Molly. 1470 01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:15,760 I don't think I've met anyone that dislikes Ian. 1471 01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:17,840 It's, like...it's just the way it is. 1472 01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,880 If you were in the trenches, Molly would definitely be one of the guys 1473 01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,120 that you'd say, "Rightio, Moll, I want you next to me, mate." 1474 01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,420 And you know what? He would be too. 1475 01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:26,900 People that have been around for 40 years or more - 1476 01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,420 you know, the Stones, Rod Stewart, Madonna, 1477 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,020 you name 'em - they know who he is. 1478 01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:33,940 And they know what an influence he's been. 1479 01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,640 (CHEERING) 1480 01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:40,540 Wanna say a few words? 1481 01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:42,640 I love you too. 1482 01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:47,060 AUDIENCE: (CHANTS) Molly! Molly! Molly! Molly! Molly! 1483 01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:51,140 Molly is very highly regarded worldwide 1484 01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:55,340 by the heads and moguls of record companies, 1485 01:08:55,440 --> 01:08:58,240 television people and the artists themselves. 1486 01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:01,700 I know, for instances, over the years 1487 01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:05,500 where Rod Stewart would only do one interview for the world, 1488 01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:06,940 and that was Molly. 1489 01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,040 I've come from warm sheets to do this interview, 1490 01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,640 You know that, don't you? I realise that, yes. 1491 01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,620 And you've come up well after the party last night. 1492 01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,380 Four hours' sleep. Pardon? How many hours' sleep? 1493 01:09:15,480 --> 01:09:16,380 About four. 1494 01:09:16,480 --> 01:09:18,100 You went to bed at seven. It's now five. 1495 01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,720 Seven. Well, it took me five hours to get ready. I see. 1496 01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,900 Molly...he started so early that he sort of like, 1497 01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,000 he became synonymous with television. 1498 01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:29,220 It was sort of like, you know, if Brian Henderson wasn't on 1499 01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:32,860 or Molly wasn't on, then there's something wrong with television. 1500 01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,760 He was one of the original heads that turned up. 1501 01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,860 Molly Meldrum's life and times 1502 01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:42,620 is something that all Australians should be proud of mostly 1503 01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,620 and should celebrate in true tradition. 1504 01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,540 And I think that is putting a smile on my face, 1505 01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,140 I know that would be putting a smile on Ian's face. 1506 01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:55,020 Molly would give you his soul. He's just an amazing, generous person. 1507 01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:59,600 There's just so much in his heart that he loves to give. Mm. 1508 01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:03,200 Jeez, I'm lucky he's not straight, he might have run off with you. 1509 01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,820 (LAUGHS) I don't think so. 1510 01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:07,820 Lindsay. 1511 01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:11,380 I've known Ian 'Molly' Meldrum for 47 years. 1512 01:10:11,480 --> 01:10:14,100 47 bloody years - can you believe it? 1513 01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,340 And our relationship today's no different 1514 01:10:16,440 --> 01:10:19,420 to what it was 47 years ago. 1515 01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,520 I'm very proud to be his mate. 1516 01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,040 I'd like to kill him more often than not, 1517 01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:26,340 but I am very proud to be Molly's mate. 1518 01:10:26,440 --> 01:10:30,100 CROWD: (CHANTS) Molly! Molly! Molly! Molly! Molly! 1519 01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:32,660 MORRIS: He will be embarrassed, 1520 01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:34,820 but he'll be proud about the documentary. 1521 01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:36,900 He'll think, "Oh, why do people fuss over me?" 1522 01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,260 But he'll be really proud that it's been done. 1523 01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:42,800 Molly will hate the fact that he had no control over this documentary. 1524 01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,880 Molly will love the fact that it covers all aspects of his life. 1525 01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:50,180 He'll get embarrassed about people talking so highly of him. 1526 01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:54,440 But deep down he'll love the recognition, and he deserves it. 1527 01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,100 Wow. It feels good being Molly Meldrum. 1528 01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,520 Greetings, Molly. Do yourself a favour. 1529 01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:08,720 Do yourself a favour. Do yourself a favour. 1530 01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,740 This is a big hat to fill. Do yourself a favour. 1531 01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:13,840 Cheers, mate. Hats off to you. 1532 01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,320 Love ya, Moll. Love ya, Moll. Mwah. 1533 01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:16,660 We love you, Molly. We do. 1534 01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:18,720 Thanks, Moll. Do yourself a favour. 1535 01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,420 Do yourself a favour. Love you, Molly. 1536 01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,180 Um...uh...uh... 1537 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:27,600 This is what's under his hat. This is what's under MY hat. 1538 01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,500 Long may you wear it. You are the real thing. 1539 01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:31,600 Do yourself a favour. 1540 01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,940 Good on ya, son. You want to do what?! 1541 01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,120 Thanks, Moll. Good on ya, Molly. Mwah! 1542 01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,200 Love ya, Molly. You're the best, mate. 1543 01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,540 I'm so sorry I didn't accept your hand in marriage. 1544 01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:42,540 Love ya, Moll. Thanks, Molly. 1545 01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:44,260 Do yourself a favour. 1546 01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,220 F Troop. We take our hats off to ya. 1547 01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,320 We love you down at the Melbourne Storm. 1548 01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:50,400 Thanks, Moll. I'm feeling very Brokeback Mountain. 1549 01:11:50,480 --> 01:11:53,220 This hat's too big for me. Wear it proud. 1550 01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:55,320 The world's a better place with you. 1551 01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:56,700 Molly Meldrum, we love you. 1552 01:11:56,800 --> 01:12:00,140 Thanks, Ian, for making my life a joy. 1553 01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:01,860 Love you, Molly. Go, Saints. 1554 01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:04,340 What are you? Amazing! 1555 01:12:04,440 --> 01:12:06,640 I think this is looking good on me, Molly. 1556 01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:08,140 Now I'm wearing the hat. 1557 01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:09,420 You are the real thing. 1558 01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,300 Here I am again, talking about you, lovey! 1559 01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,020 Do yourself a favour, Molly. 1560 01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:15,340 You're the best. 1561 01:12:15,440 --> 01:12:16,660 I'm not Molly Meldrum. 1562 01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:20,280 Molly, last time you said farewell to me... 1563 01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:23,840 To you. (LAUGHS) 1564 01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:26,940 That is shocking! 1565 01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:30,460 Oh, Lindsay. Oh, you can't do that. 126178

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