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I'm Ian Meldrum,
and what you've just seen
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is the opening of a new program
titled Meldrum.
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We believe this show is a new
concept in Australian television
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and that there's a ready-made
market for a program of this type.
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We feel that a 6:30 timeslot,
preferably Saturday or Sunday night,
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would be most suitable.
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(THE REAL THING BY
RUSSELL MORRIS PLAYS)
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How did he get that name -
Molly Meldrum?
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No-one knows.
# Come and see the real thing
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# Come and see the real thing
Come and see... #
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Why was he called Molly?
I don't know.
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I've got no idea.
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Don't know.
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I have no idea.
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I thought maybe it was some
Australian thing.
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# ..doesn't really mean a thing... #
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Not a lot of people know this...
Uh...actually, I don't know either.
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I don't know how
he got the nickname.
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Was it through Elton John?
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I don't really know how Molly
got his nickname.
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He used to sing
Good Golly, Miss Molly all the time.
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Good Golly, Miss Molly?
I don't know.
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I didn't know his other name
was Ian.
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What's a Molly Meldrum?
What is it? Is it a drink?
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However he did, it stuck, and the
best nicknames always just stick.
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# I am the real thing... #
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He has this weird habit of rubbing
molasses all over his body
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and streaking.
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And it's sort of been
an embarrassing thing,
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but 'Molly' ever since.
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Did he get it when he was
writing for Go-Set magazine?
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I had a feeling that John Paul Young
may have given that to him.
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No! I'd have no idea.
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I just wanna know how
you got the name Molly.
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I mean, a name
that rhymes with Dolly,
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and you don't look like
a Molly to me.
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Stan Rofe.
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Stan Rofe,
who was a disc jockey in Melbourne.
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Stan came up with
the nickname Molly,
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and it really...it really stuck.
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(SMILEY BY RONNIE BURNS PLAYS)
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MAN: Where Molly grew up,
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very big on fruit, I believe.
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The Shepparton area.
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Ian was born on January 29 in 1943,
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in Orbost,
which is in eastern Victoria.
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Ian's mum and dad,
Robert Meldrum and Isobel Meldrum.
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For the first three
years of his life,
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Ian was brought up
by his grandmother and his mother,
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his father was off at the war.
And that's the family.
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Ian, the oldest, myself, the middle
child, and Robert, the youngest.
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# Smiley... #
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There's a wonderful shot of Ian
with all of us,
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my cousin John, Dad and Mum, all
standing out the front of the house.
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It looked like something
out of The Sullivans.
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# Smiley, hey
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# They say you're a man today... #
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It was generally
a very happy childhood.
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We didn't want for anything.
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I remember Ian built a train out of
an oil drum and some cardboard boxes
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and, you know,
we played in that for weeks.
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Back in those days, war games
were very popular with kids,
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'cause the war
hadn't been that long gone.
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And he'd dress up...he'd always
want to be the German spy
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or something like that.
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We used to put, you know,
firecrackers in people's letterboxes
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and blow them up,
and stuff like that.
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I mean, there was always, you know,
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those sorts of things
that the police were...
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It wasn't as though
they were down every day,
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but we kept them on their toes.
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# Yesterday there was laughter
and songs to sing... #
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He didn't go to school
in Orbost,
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he moved...he and the family
moved to Kyabram.
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When we got to Kyabram
I distinctly remember him
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absolutely adoring music generally,
but the musicals of the time -
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the My Fair Lady, Oklahoma!, Kismet.
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He just loved the whole
theatre of those things.
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When your father isn't there for
the first three years of your life,
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I mean, and the only people
around you
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are your mother
and your grandmother,
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well, she essentially
will have some effect on that.
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# See the windows
of the greenhouse... #
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Kyabram was too small.
It was a country town.
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There wasn't a lot for him
in a country town,
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with the interests that he had.
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And I know when he was sent
to Melbourne by his parents,
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to live with his aunties,
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it was because I think they'd just
about had enough of him - I think.
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I first met Ian 'Molly' Meldrum when
he was a young boy from the country
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and he had those little
patches on his jacket,
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and he was beginning to be
a journalist.
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And he was very uni student.
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One day he got on the bus
and he had his hair all dyed black,
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and it was like, "Look at this guy,
he looks so different."
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And everyone in the bus
is looking at him.
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And so about a week later, I got
on the bus and I had a black suit,
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black umbrella, black briefcase,
black socks, black shoes,
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black tie and my hair dyed black.
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Well, that must have
driven Ian insane.
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My girlfriend and I used to
go and buy potato cakes
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on the way home from school
some afternoons,
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and I recall seeing this guy
would hop off the bus
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and I'd say to my friends,
"Isn't he gorgeous?"
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The next week he got on
with all these books
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and he went to pay the fare,
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and he had all the books
under his chin like this.
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And the guy's taking off with
the bus, the bus is going,
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he knew exactly what
he was going to do.
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And he goes to hand the money
and then he goes, "Whoa,"
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and all the books go right down the
bus and land in everybody's lap.
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Well, he used to have this mop
of Beatles hair,
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which was almost...
he was a trailblazer at that time.
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He wore a red lamb's wool jumper
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and navy blue cords
and desert boots.
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And I just thought he was so cool.
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And I found out later that
this gorgeous-looking creature
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was at Melbourne University
doing law.
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MAN: He started studying
law at one stage.
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In fact, I think we talked
about that when he was insulting me
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and knew that I was a lawyer
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and let it be known that
he COULD HAVE been a lawyer
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but elected not to go that way.
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# See the clown who makes
the children laugh... #
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My father said, "There's someone
at the back door wants to see you.
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"I don't know who it is."
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So I went to the back door
and through the screen,
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"Oh, that's the guy on the bus!"
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And he came in and
he said, "My name's Ian,"
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we introduced each other,
and he said,
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"Would I be allowed to
move into your house
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"with your family for two weeks?"
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And I said, "Look, Dad's
in the lounge room, go and ask him."
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He went in and my dad said yes.
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I do believe he stayed there
for nine years.
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# See the mountains
made of ice-cream... #
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For Ian to meet the Burns family,
but particularly Ronnie Burns,
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at that stage of his life,
I think it changed his life forever.
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He used to live out in the veranda,
he had his...
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Well, it was enclosed.
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And he lived there for years.
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And he was really happy there.
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Molly and I spent our misspent youth
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living here together
with my parents -
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my mum and dad -
and my brother.
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Right here in this building, and his
bedroom was just at the front here,
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which is now a veranda.
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The bed was probably...looked like a
camp stretcher, it was so...so tiny.
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It's a very, very tiny space,
but it's just enough to put a bed
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and the little wardrobe
and his little desk.
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And it really was from this flat,
this building,
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that the careers of many Australian
entertainers came about.
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# How I wish I were
a little boy again
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# Living in a child's dream... #
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I had started,
with friends from school,
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the original St Kilda cheer squad.
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And we put our little banner up
on the fence at the MCG.
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Ian came up and asked me
if he could join my cheer squad.
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Well, I realised that
he was the gorgeous creature
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that I'd seen
getting off the bus in Elwood,
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and so I was quite overcome and I
said, "Oh, yes, of course you can."
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(LAUGHS)
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NEWSREEL: The Saints are in their
first grand final in 52 years.
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BURNS: He had a boater hat,
he wanted a scarf,
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so my mother made him a white scarf
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with the St Kilda colours
at the end of it.
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My mum's feelings toward Ian
were very special.
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She did see him like a son,
and so did my dad,
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but there was a real closeness
between them
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because at the time that he came
to live in Elwood with us,
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I went out to start my career.
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I was out with the band
four, five, six nights a week,
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and he was at home watching
television with my parents.
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So, they formed
a special relationship
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and, again, it was just part of
that feeling of being family.
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And, you know, I'm happy
that my mum and dad did that,
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because I don't know where
he would have been without that.
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I do recall that Ronnie
was really...he was nice.
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You know, he was just a nice guy.
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I mean, but I was sort of
not a BIT in awe of him,
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I was totally in awe of him.
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You know, a guy playing in a band
that was opening for the Rolling
Stones, good heavens.
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# Smiley
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# You're out in the world today
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# Smiley
You're all on your own... #
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We were always going to the beach.
We used to put coconut oil on us.
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There was no slip, slop, slap
in those days.
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And then other people
came to the beach,
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like Jim Keays from the Masters
Apprentices, and Russell Morris.
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MORRIS: We would always hang out
either down at Elwood Beach
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or go up to Dendy Street, Brighton.
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I sort of tried to drag them
up to Dendy Street
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because there was much
better-looking women up there.
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# Nah, nah-nah, nah
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# Nah-nah-nah, nah-nah-nah... #
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Back then, we didn't have a plan.
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We'd run into people
at the pizza shop.
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BREEN: None of us drank alcohol
in those days.
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Fascinating.
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Times have changed.
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# Hush, hush
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# Thought I heard her
calling my name now... #
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BREEN: In 1964,
I remember Ian telling me,
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"I'm going to Surfers Paradise for
three weeks for a surfing holiday."
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My boyfriend was away from me
for that time,
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but he did send me
the most gorgeous postcards.
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Well, I was so excited
to receive them,
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and they do actually say how much he
missed me and wanted to come back.
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Couldn't wait to see me,
and all the rest.
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It was lovely.
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# She's got love
that's like quicksand
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# Only took one touch
of her hand... #
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He would come and pick me up in
what he called his old Woody,
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which was his amazing old Chevy car,
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and I don't even know
if he had a licence.
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We had a delightful relationship.
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# Hush, hush... #
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So, outside the front of Myer,
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the lay-by loo,
he asked me to marry him.
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And I remember looking at him
and just saying,
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"Oh, God, darling, I think we're
having too much fun to get married!"
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I can see why Ian and her
really, really hit it off.
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They seem to be very like-minded.
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If I'd married Ian, we'd have lasted
one year if we'd have been lucky
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and that would have been that.
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So, instead of which,
I didn't marry him
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and we've been friends
for over 50 years.
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Best friends.
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# Hush, hush
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# Can't you hear me
calling her name... #
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I looked over there
and there was this blonde girl
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with the mesh stockings
and the fancy dress
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and the lippy
and all that sort of stuff,
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and I wondered what Mum was doing.
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She's calling out, "Ian,
come back here! Come back here!"
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'Cause some guy wanted to pick up
this girl, which was Molly in drag.
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I think by 1967,
I'd slightly discovered other boys
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and I think Molly might have too.
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And then... (LAUGHS)
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..in 1968 my husband of 46 years
and I eloped.
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And Molly burst into my office,
"Did you get married last week?!"
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"Yes."
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So, he said, "Get me a line,
I'm going to ring Aunty Edna."
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So, he phoned Aunty Edna and he
said, "Sandy got married last week.
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"That's it, I'm gay."
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(LAUGHS)
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NEWSREEL: And this is
absolutely wonderful
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here at the Southern Cross,
it's fantastic.
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MAN: When the Beatles arrived
in Australia in 1964,
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it was just absolute mayhem.
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No-one had ever seen
anything like it in Australia.
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You can't imagine what it's like
here at the Southern Cross.
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Everyone's going completely mad.
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The police were attempting,
you know...
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"We've gotta get
this car through here."
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So, what Ian did was, like,
"I'm on the side of the police.
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"Everybody stand back, get back,"
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just so that the police would say,
"Look at this guy.
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"He's really helping us. Maybe we
can take him in to see the Beatles."
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I don't know what
he had in his mind.
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When the Beatles came out
onto the balcony,
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because Ian was at that front point
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trying to hold everyone back
as he looked up at the balcony,
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he got pushed underneath
to the shopfronts there.
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And there was a florist
with glass windows,
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and he actually went
through the glass window
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and he was upset,
from what he told me,
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because he couldn't see them then.
Here are the Beatles!
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(CROWD SCREAMS)
G'day. Welcome.
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MAN: The Beatles did that -
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they just turned popular music
into something
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that just forced its way
into people's lounge rooms,
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and he erupted as well with that.
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And then rock'n'roll just...
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They just introduced
this whole new feeling
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about popular music in Australia.
(CROWD ROARS)
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BURNS: So, this is where one of
the most memorable events occurred.
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We were here for one thing,
and that was to see the Beatles.
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And Molly would jump up at
every song, and he was screaming.
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And a St John's Ambulance guy
came in,
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made his way in through the aisle,
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and said to Ian,
"I've got to take you outside.
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"I don't feel safe about
the way you're carrying on."
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And I said, "Look, he'll be OK.
He's in my company."
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And I pulled him back down to the
chair, the ambulance guy took off
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and then Ian jumped up again,
screaming like a girl.
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So, I stood up to say,
"Molly, sit down,"
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and I must have had
my fist clenched,
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and the ushers came and they put
our arms up behind our back
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and just marched us straight out
to the aisle here
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and they took us down the stairs,
someone opened the door
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and they literally threw us out
like being drunks in a bar.
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They just chucked us outside
and we were devastated.
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Then the Beatles went into Long Tall
Sally and Ian was hysterical.
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NEWSREEL: In this
national newspaper,
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printed every Saturday in Melbourne,
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parents and oldies
have no say at all.
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MAN: Molly at Go-Set, well,
first of all he was a journalist.
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He was not only a student
but also, I suppose,
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in many ways a teacher
of pop culture.
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So why don't you go out
and buy your Go-Set for 15 cents,
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and also there's the 3XY news page,
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my column
and everything else in the paper.
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MAN: Well, Go-Set was great for if
you were interested in music at all
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because it had all the latest
gossip and pictures
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and, you know, interesting stuff
about people that we were fans of.
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I saw it as a very pure
magazine for the kids.
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NEWSREEL: It now has 15 people
working full-time
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and another 10 working part-time.
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YOUNG: I never knew until later
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that I was Molly Meldrum's first
interview for Go-Set magazine,
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and I always wondered why
he was so incredibly nervous.
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HEWETT: We had a phone call saying,
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"Oh, Go-Set want to do
an interview."
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We've gone, "Go-Set?!
I mean, God, that's like the Bible.
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"Why do they wanna talk to us?"
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You know, like, "Duh,"
sucking on our Fantas.
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Um, and Ian was the one
that did the interview.
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I think he must have been
17, 18, something like that.
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MAN: Have you got any policy
behind your column?
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I say it's a helpful column, to this
point, that even my best friends,
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including myself,
will be rubbished in that column.
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Molly had an interview with me
and he said,
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"How do you feel about a statement
that the Bee Gees made..."
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Which they never made,
I don't know where he got it from.
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"..saying that, you know, Australia
never gave them the chance
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"that they've had in England?"
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And I said, "I can't imagine them
saying that,
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"because I know how much
they love Australia,
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"but if they said it,
I would be really disappointed."
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So, the front page of the Go-Set
magazine the following week was,
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"Johnny Young slams Bee Gees!"
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And, you know, Barry and the boys
weren't very happy with me.
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So thank you, Molly, for that.
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In '66, '67, '68, '69,
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I was totally committed
to the pop scene.
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I lived the pop scene,
I ate and slept the pop scene.
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BURNS: He left us in Elwood,
and there was an absence for me
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because we were like brothers.
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And so he'd gone away
for three months,
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and then he decided he'd take
an extra three months
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and come back via America.
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And he went there to make his
fame and fortune, and he did it.
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The rest was really history
after that.
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The Beatles had founded
their own label, Apple Records.
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Believe it or not, Molly was
one of the few employees
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that worked there,
in promotions and publicity.
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He actually lived right next to
the Abbey Road Studios,
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so that smell must have
rubbed off on him.
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When he went to England
he met Terry Doran,
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who was the Beatles'
press photographer.
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So, at a party, he says,
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"Ian, I need you to come
and meet someone special."
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He took him across the floor
and that was when he said,
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"John Lennon, Ian Meldrum."
And Ian passed out on the floor.
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So, Lennon said,
"Who the hell's this?"
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They said, "That's Ian Meldrum."
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And that's how
they got to know each other.
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YOUNG: When I was living
in England in 1967,
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I heard a knock on the front door
at about 10 o'clock in the morning.
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There's Molly, and he said,
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"Oh, John, John,
have you got any brandy?
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"Have you got any brandy?"
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And I said, "What do you need brandy
for at 10 o'clock in the morning?"
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He said... And he had a little tape
recorder with him, and he said,
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"I've got to do an interview
with John Lennon and Yoko Ono
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"in 10 minutes and I'm so nervous
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"I don't think I'm gonna
be able to push the button
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"to start the tape recorder.
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So, I didn't have a brandy,
I think I had a Scotch,
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and I gave him some and
he calmed down a little bit
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and he went and did his interview,
and it was splendid.
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# Oh, baby, I love you so... #
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He sent me a postcard
signed by the Beatles.
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He's got a signed album
with all of the Beatles on it.
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It's the White Album,
signed by all of the Beatles.
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And that's rare.
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# I love you so
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# I can't go on... #
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We've had two pop television shows -
one that ran for an hour,
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which was The Go Show,
and two, Kommotion,
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which ran for five nights
a week at a half-hour.
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MAN: Kommotion was
basically a program
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of good-looking young
Melbourne girls and guys
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miming the songs of the day.
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The worst mimers on
the planet, you know.
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# Falling down across her arms
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# Hiding all the lady's charms... #
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MAN: I didn't realise that
the people that were on the TV
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weren't actually singing them.
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So, I was probably
a fan of Molly's, thinking,
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"Oh, jeez, I like the way he sounds
like he's got a megaphone on."
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I think he's had a longer career
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than most of the people
he wanted to be.
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HEWETT: He always had this funny
sort of dance thing, you know.
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I always used to call it
the university sort of dance.
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You know, it was kind of not
in rhythm, but somewhere there.
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That's how Ian moves.
He does that...
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Right, now here's that ever so
controversial Ian 'Molly' Meldrum.
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How do you do, Tony? How are you?
Speak to the camera.
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Oh, I'd like to wish everybody
a happy new year,
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and I hope you had
a ball of a Christmas.
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WYLLIE: Uptight was
a four-hour, live-to-air,
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unrehearsed television show
on a Saturday morning at Channel 0.
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I can assure you that I'll drop as
many names in 1969 as I did in 1968.
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WOMAN: Not possible.
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00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,900
WYLLIE: Molly was quite
an eccentric person, I felt.
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He was very out there. I remember
he was totally undisciplined.
409
00:18:38,120 --> 00:18:40,340
Do you feel that age
has much to do with...
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00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,440
You want to know how old I am?
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Yes, of course
I want to know how old you are.
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Much younger than Carol West.
(ALL LAUGH)
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On that note...
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WYLLIE: I used to have to
worry about Molly.
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He would sit on my left
and Youngy would sit on my right,
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and they were just both waiting
for me to fall over
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so they'd jump into my chair.
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And I had one sick day
in four years. (LAUGHS)
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I wasn't letting that chair go.
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As you probably know, Barry Gibb has
returned to Australia for two weeks,
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and I have Barry sitting next to me.
422
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Welcome to the program, Barry.
Hi, Ian.
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Well, first question is,
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what was your main purpose
for returning to Australia?
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Well, because it's
the only country in the world
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where you can depend on the sun.
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Uptight and Happening '70
were the ones
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that I have very clear memories of.
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I'll tell you what
we have got, Ian.
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What have you got?
Which is always...
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(STAMMERS) You surprise me
what you've...
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..always good to see.
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YOUNG: Suddenly in the mid-'60s,
we had this revolution,
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and Molly was a part
of this revolution.
435
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It was when we decided
we wanted to make our music,
436
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and out of that came
the adventures of Molly Meldrum.
437
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And now one of our biggest
records at the moment,
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by Melbourne boy Russell Morris,
and he is The Real Thing.
439
00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,340
# Come and see the real thing
440
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# Come and see the real thing
Come and see... #
441
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He managed the band that
I was in, Somebody's Image,
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and produced our first two singles
on a four-track machine,
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and did such an unbelievable job.
444
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Molly Meldrum was
extremely interested
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in the production of music,
446
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as well as being an admirer.
447
00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,480
Obviously he had to understand
how it was made.
448
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,260
And I don't think a lot of people
really know what a great producer
449
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he actually is.
450
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Finding someone who had that talent
was astronomical,
451
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,100
but that was the way it worked out.
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# I am the real thing... #
453
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What was happening in music,
all the solo artists
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and all the bands were just doing
straight songs,
455
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and Ian and I realised that
I had to do something
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that was out of the ordinary.
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(PLAYS OPENING CHORDS
OF THE REAL THING)
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From the start...
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# Come and see the real thing
460
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,860
# Come and see the real thing
Come and see
461
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# Come and see the... #
462
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It was that sort of up,
sort of vibey sort of thing,
463
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and we didn't...we just didn't
wanna do it like that.
464
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We needed something that was more
spacy and more sort of psychedelic.
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# Come and see the real thing
466
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,340
# Come and see the real thing
Come and see... #
467
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,180
I remember when I first heard
The Real Thing, Ian said,
468
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,260
"Listen, John Young's played us
some songs, have a listen to them."
469
00:21:11,360 --> 00:21:16,420
So John played me a number of songs,
and they were quite good.
470
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,520
I said, "They're pretty good,"
I said,
471
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,620
"but there are so many other solo
artists and these are similar.
472
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,720
"What we're looking for
is something different."
473
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,500
And Ian said,
"Play him that other song."
474
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,420
And Johnny said,
"No, it's not for a solo artist."
475
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,460
And Ian said, "Just play it to him,"
and he played The Real Thing.
476
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,860
And I looked at Ian and I said,
"That's what I want."
477
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,980
And Ian said, "Yes, I know."
478
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,660
And Johnny thought we were crazy.
479
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,760
When I wrote The Real Thing, I
didn't have Russell Morris in mind.
480
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,820
You know, I heard it more as
a band song, Beatle-esque.
481
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,880
I don't think anybody else
could have sung The Real Thing
482
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,260
as well as Russell has done it,
and he's made it his own.
483
00:21:52,360 --> 00:21:54,940
(AUDIENCE SCREAMS)
484
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,740
ROWE: All John knows is that
he wrote this song
485
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,380
and Molly wanted it,
and it went into the studio
486
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,460
and about - I don't know - seven
years later it came out as a record.
487
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,900
The word 'budget'
meant nothing to him.
488
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,900
So, you know, he'd just sort of...
489
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,380
.."that was no good.
490
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,900
"Scrap it, do it again.
Scrap it, do it again."
491
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,780
# There's a meaning there
But the meaning there doesn't... #
492
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,460
Ian rang me and said,
"I've got this brilliant idea.
493
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,560
"We're going to make it
six minutes long."
494
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,620
I said, "Are you insane?
How can we do that?"
495
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,580
He said, "I'll put sound effects."
496
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,300
I said, "Ian, there's at least
three minutes of nothingness."
497
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:32,900
I said, "It will be boring."
498
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,220
He said, "Oh, just leave it to me.
I'll fix it."
499
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:40,060
And I was very doubtful,
but...he really pulled it off.
500
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,620
He was the architect
of The Real Thing.
501
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:47,500
# I am not seeing you... #
502
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,600
YOUNG: Molly spent so much money,
503
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,320
and the people from
the record company came
504
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,180
and listened to the unmixed stuff,
505
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,280
and to them it just sounded
like nonsense,
506
00:22:56,360 --> 00:22:58,860
and it ran for seven minutes.
507
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,580
And so they said, "Molly, we're
gonna take you off the production."
508
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,140
Even when the EMI people
came down to hear it,
509
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,180
'cause they were so angry
we'd spent so much money,
510
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,180
Ian took the tapes,
he was terrified they'd hate it.
511
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,280
And he took the tapes
so they couldn't hear it.
512
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,600
Molly rang the record company
and said,
513
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,480
"I've got the master tapes here,
that we've spent a fortune on,
514
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,500
"and I've got a lighter,
515
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,980
"and if you don't give me a fax
516
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,040
"guaranteeing that I'm gonna be
able to finish this production,
517
00:23:26,120 --> 00:23:27,620
"I'm gonna burn the master."
518
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:32,660
# Trying hard to understand the
meaning that you'll see in me... #
519
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:37,420
And they went nuts and said they had
to hear it, so we played it for them
520
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,180
and of course Ian was right -
they hated it.
521
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,400
They thought it was the biggest
load of rubbish they'd ever heard.
522
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,760
And they went back to Sydney and
they weren't going to release it.
523
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,800
So, Ian and I got in the car
and drove up to Sydney
524
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,260
and went to all the radio stations
and got the program managers to say,
525
00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:52,180
"Yes, we will play this."
526
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:53,780
# There's a meaning there
527
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,860
# But the meaning there
doesn't really mean a thing... #
528
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,640
And, of course, the record company
was totally thrilled
529
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,720
because it turned out to be
530
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,320
one of the biggest-selling records
of all time.
531
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:08,740
# Am the real thing... #
532
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:13,300
The collaboration of Russell
Morris, Ian Meldrum and John Young
533
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,540
with The Real Thing, I think, was...
534
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,260
It was probably an incredibly
serendipitous moment for those guys.
535
00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:21,020
It really was a happy accident.
536
00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:23,120
It sounded like nothing else.
537
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:26,900
It just had, like,
this whole sort of world in a song.
538
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,660
It was groundbreaking stuff then.
539
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,820
It was, "Whoa, you know, wow,
they must be just tripping."
540
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,020
There I was, lying on the floor
541
00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:38,240
and I'm going...I'm listening to
the beginning of The Real Thing
542
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,780
and then on and on, all this stuff,
and Molly's got all this stuff,
543
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,740
and I'm going...
544
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,700
You know, I won't say the word,
but, "What?"
545
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,860
You know, just...more surprises and
more surprises and more surprises,
546
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,580
and sort of almost orgasmic,
you know?
547
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,680
Sort of like lovemaking.
548
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,140
And then at the end...
(MIMICS EXPLOSION)
549
00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,620
..the atom bomb.
550
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,120
And I...I wept. I wept.
551
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,020
HEWETT: What a production! Gosh!
552
00:25:08,120 --> 00:25:10,220
And I didn't realise at the time,
but, I mean,
553
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:15,420
Day By Day turned out to be
just as big of a production.
554
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,460
Oh! What a lot of fire
in that session. (GROWLS)
555
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,540
# Prepare ye
556
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:28,580
# The way of the Lord
557
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,540
# Prepare ye
558
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:37,620
# The way of the Lord... #
559
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:42,060
MAN: Colleen Hewett's record
Day By Day took 18 months,
560
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,160
somewhere like that.
561
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,460
I mean, I pity the poor girl
if she had to just keep singing
562
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,220
over and over again,
which is what I've heard.
563
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,860
# The way of the Lord... #
564
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,340
The third week, I've had it
up to here with Day By Day,
565
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,020
because it is a repetitive,
gorgeous melody.
566
00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:04,620
And the boys were so good,
their part was nailed.
567
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,720
And I came out,
and he kept on just...
568
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:12,100
Well, I just walked up to him
this day and I just lost it.
569
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:18,180
I went from no swearing,
no aggressiveness,
570
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,100
want to get on with everybody,
571
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,260
but he just...
I couldn't understand him.
572
00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:27,860
And I've grabbed him by his big
pullover and I've just shoved...
573
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,780
'Cause he's only little.
I wasn't this big then, either.
574
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,060
I shoved him up against the wall
and I've gone bang!
575
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,980
(LAUGHS) He's gone, "Oh!"
576
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,500
Fainted down on the floor.
577
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,340
# To see thee more clearly... #
578
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,100
But you know what?
579
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,340
It's the biggest hit song
I have ever had.
580
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,700
It's the most memorable arrangement.
581
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,180
The whole drama of it is Ian.
582
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,620
Ian doesn't go anywhere where there
isn't a little touch of drama.
583
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,780
That's the way he works.
That's the way he loves it.
584
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,800
Molly was the Phil Spector
type of person from Australia.
585
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,200
Phil would be absolutely obsessed
and manic as well.
586
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,280
Obviously I have a great
deal of respect for him
587
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,900
because he was doing stuff.
588
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,000
And people have to remember
the context.
589
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,700
It's 1969, for starters,
590
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,340
and he's out there doing something
that's so off the track
591
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,440
of what you should be doing
in those days -
592
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,380
so championing bands, going
to Sunbury, you know.
593
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,180
This is in '69, '70,
594
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,280
all those early years
when no-one was doing that.
595
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,080
It's like the guys that
were in the bands.
596
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,260
You know, that was such...so wrong
to do things like that.
597
00:27:34,360 --> 00:27:36,840
Now they've got courses in
primary school to be a rock star.
598
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,540
It's ridiculous.
I'll never forget Sunbury in '73
599
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:40,980
because Molly introduced me
600
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,180
to the crowd, and unbeknownst to me
said, "Make him feel welcome.
601
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,760
"When he comes out I want you
all to sort of light up your torches
602
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,540
"or your cigarette lighters
and move towards the stage."
603
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,020
So I come out, wondering what
I'm doing at a rock concert,
604
00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:57,140
and 40,000 kids, or whatever,
all lit up their lighters
605
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,240
and walked towards the stage.
606
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,280
And I thought,
"They're coming to get me."
607
00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:01,220
It was bloody Molly.
608
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,220
# Johnny's with a Julie
609
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,300
# He tells her she's his girl
610
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,420
# Says "I'll love you always"... #
611
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,520
MORRIS: He produced not only me,
612
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,200
he produced Ronnie Burns,
he produced Colleen Hewett,
613
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,660
he produced the Ferrets,
and they were all fabulous records.
614
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:20,660
# Ooh, ask no questions
and get told no lies... #
615
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,740
MILLER: I recorded a demo in Sydney
and I played it to him
616
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:29,140
and a couple of days later he called
me in, he was all emotional,
617
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,900
and said,
"We've gotta record this record.
618
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,500
"I'm ringing Gudinski."
619
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,380
There is no-one that has singly,
in my lifetime,
620
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,240
done more for Australian music
than Molly, nowhere near it.
621
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:40,620
Not even close to it.
622
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:41,860
# Don't fall in love
623
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,500
# Big mouths, bright lights... #
624
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:49,340
He had this ability to build a mix.
I've never seen anyone else do it.
625
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,820
It's sort of like magic.
626
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,620
# Can't you see they're
cheating all of you? #
627
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,400
He did the Ferrets record,
which came out in a brown paper bag.
628
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,360
I was that angry with him, he took
that long trying to get it right.
629
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,460
We credited it as
"Produced by Willie Everfinish",
630
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,560
which was a joke,
having a crack at him,
631
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,400
'cause we had a massive hit
632
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,520
and you need to, you know,
capitalise and keep moving.
633
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,980
# Don't fall in love... #
634
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,680
Cheetah, not only did they have
a massive hit in Australia
635
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,620
with Walking In the Rain,
it was top 10 in Germany as well.
636
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,580
I think as a producer,
Molly is very gifted.
637
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:27,460
I think he's got that sort of Phil
Spector, uh...connection to music.
638
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,140
As well as being a fan,
he can actually affect it,
639
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,240
he can actually change it,
he can mould it.
640
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,220
He knows a lot about music,
641
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,940
but he also knows a lot about
what connects with people
642
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,280
and what attaches to people.
He's a really clever man.
643
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:41,820
# Don't fall in love
644
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,300
# Big cars,
bright lights and bow ties... #
645
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,780
(COUNTDOWN THEME PLAYS)
646
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,020
(HORROR MOVIE BY SKYHOOKS PLAYS)
647
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,140
SYMONS: Pretty much every band
worth its salt,
648
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,580
every band that ever
recorded anything,
649
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,580
had an enormous amount
of television experience
650
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:04,180
that bands in the United States
or England simply didn't have
651
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,220
because we had this testing ground
called Countdown.
652
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,000
There was a couple of things you had
to do to be successful in Australia.
653
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,040
One of them was get your picture
in the middle of TV Week
654
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,080
and the other one was
to be on Countdown.
655
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,020
It was our version of Top Of
the Pops, so everybody popped in.
656
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,060
I mean, it's more of a question of
657
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,980
what bands didn't Molly
introduce me to.
658
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,380
It was a religion for us, you know.
I mean, that was our church.
659
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,680
That was the first time
I saw Molly in colour,
660
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,780
and what an eye-opener that was.
661
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,880
And I'll say do yourself a favour,
662
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,480
'cause you really must have a listen
to this album - Sports... Ah.
663
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,680
"Do yourself a favour" -
great catchcry -
664
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,120
was another Molly original
that he ripped off
665
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,400
out of the Marilyn Monroe-Tony
Curtis movie Some Like It Hot.
666
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,380
So, here I am, still this very
naive, young boy from Brisbane,
667
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,340
go into Molly's bedroom.
668
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,180
Molly's in the bed, and it was
a rather interesting negotiation
669
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,540
getting videos played on Countdown,
670
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,140
trying to be very serious
sitting on the end of the bed,
671
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,520
asking Molly Meldrum to please play
Simon and Garfunkel's latest video.
672
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,660
I don't think Australia had ever
had the amount of overseas talent
673
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,940
coming to Australia, and of course
they all did Countdown.
674
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,420
Molly knew his stuff.
675
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,460
He knew the questions and the songs,
676
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,560
and you could tell that
he cared about it.
677
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,040
(ON PHONE) Hey, this is
Paul Stanley from Kiss.
678
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,200
STANLEY: You have to remember
that interviews
679
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,020
and talking transcontinent
680
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,940
and across the oceans
was in its infancy then.
681
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,980
And it had the same kind
of connotations
682
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,380
as when you saw the astronauts
land on the moon.
683
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,480
(ON PHONE) Well, Molly, you know,
you've always been a pal.
684
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,440
You've been with us
since the beginning,
685
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,240
and I just wanted to wish
all the viewers of Countdown
686
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,320
the best for 1980.
687
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,480
I remember the first time
I met Molly.
688
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,100
It was at the Sebel Townhouse, um...
689
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,060
..and it was in the bar.
690
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,420
And he had that look in his eye...
691
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:56,020
..and I had that look in my eye,
and we went 'connect'.
692
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,820
And he bought me a drink.
693
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,540
And I believe at the time
it would have been
694
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,860
probably whisky and Diet Coke.
695
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,700
Madonna was untouchable.
696
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,260
No-one could get near Madonna unless
you were an uber-star yourself.
697
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,360
And that was Molly Meldrum.
698
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,460
You can be guaranteed Molly would
always mess up something -
699
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,560
and that was his beauty
and his charm.
700
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,400
He kept calling me Jane.
701
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,800
And I said, "No, it's Gene." He
said, "That's what I said - Jane."
702
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,460
We went back and forth on that
for a while.
703
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,760
Whether it be
the embarrassing moments
704
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,840
when he's interviewing
Prince Charles,
705
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,600
which none of us ever forget.
706
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,080
(CLEARS THROAT) And now we come to
the most important part of the...
707
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,240
MAN: Hold it, Ian. Hold it a minute.
Alright. Alright.
708
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,360
Could I just have one glass
of water, please?
709
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,440
(MIMICS MOLLY) "Jane, tell me
something..." "No, no, Gene."
710
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:42,940
"Jane." "Gene." "Jane."
711
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,660
You don't have one of these,
uh...teleprompters?
712
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:46,780
No.
713
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,600
Some of the artists when Molly just,
one listen to their very first song,
714
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,860
Molly would just have that instinct
and gift and feel to say,
715
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,120
"We're gonna break this artist
here in Australia."
716
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,420
And that ranges from people
like Blondie and ABBA,
717
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,220
who broke here in a big way,
718
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,260
Madonna, John Mellencamp,
Meat Loaf, Cyndi Lauper.
719
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,360
Of course Billy Joel
720
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,760
and Michael Jackson,
who loved Molly.
721
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,360
It was amazing every time Michael
came to Australia
722
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,440
he wanted to see Molly,
723
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,800
and Molly would always secure
that amazing interview with him.
724
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:21,140
Molly was influencing
millions of dollars.
725
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,380
There was absolutely no doubt
that Molly was a leader.
726
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,460
The fact that they put unsigned
acts on Countdown was a great thing.
727
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,140
I mean, Supernaut came from nowhere
with I Like It Both Ways.
728
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,820
Uh...be it Pseudo Echo.
729
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,200
My manager calls me up,
all excited, and said,
730
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,960
"I've been speaking to Molly and
he wants to put you on the show."
731
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,720
And I said, "But we don't
even have a record deal,"
732
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,800
and it was just a big
blur from there on.
733
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,480
I think within a period of a couple
of weeks, we were on Countdown.
734
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,260
# And I say, you say
735
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,020
# Weren't you listening? #
736
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,980
Molly's on there talking about some
cool band that's about to explode
737
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,320
and, you record companies, you know,
you'd better look out for them,
738
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,520
and I'm going,
"Is he going to say us?"
739
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,800
And next thing he says, you know,
"This is this band Pseudo Echo.
740
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,560
"You know, Australia, do yourself
a favour, check them out."
741
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,040
And he really, you know,
drummed it home and hyped us up.
742
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,120
And then it was probably
about a month after that
743
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,080
that we started,
you know, signing a deal.
744
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,180
It was great when shows
like Countdown...
745
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,860
..when Molly would support you.
746
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,380
That just gives you confidence,
I guess.
747
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,940
He would go on, "Do yourself
a favour," hold up an album,
748
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,900
and people would go to the record
store and buy that album.
749
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,420
It's a strange question, you know?
Um...
750
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,100
I mean, is there, like...
Let me start again.
751
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,280
(LAUGHS) I didn't understand
the question at all!
752
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,200
I think he had a huge impact
on my career, personally.
753
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,220
I think he was instrumental
in really getting me
754
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,260
and my image and my records,
755
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,360
and everything, and putting
it on a platform that said,
756
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,520
"Hey, this is worth taking
notice of, kids," you know.
757
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,600
And they did.
758
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,980
If you have somebody who's excited
about music, it's infectious.
759
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,560
So he infected everybody
with that excitement.
760
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,660
# Don't come in
761
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,260
# I'll only run and hide
762
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,180
# Who can it be now? #
763
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,580
The 100th show of Countdown
started innocently enough
764
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,500
and then it arrived.
765
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:10,740
It was off its head and it...it was
telling everybody it was jet lag.
766
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,380
Alright, now...Sherbet...
767
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:19,420
He'd flown in and then he must have
had some sort of a pill
768
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,640
to sort of calm him down
a little bit,
769
00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:24,160
and I do believe there may
have been a vodka in there -
770
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:26,240
just one, just one vodka.
771
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,640
Ian Meldrum has been exhausted,
John.
772
00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:29,840
Oh, he is, man. I saw him.
Completely out of his...
773
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,840
He's had enough, Ian,
and he's gone, so...
774
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,400
Molly's the guy who was
in the dressing-room
775
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,500
of these amazing performers.
776
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,580
What are INXS gonna come next?
777
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,460
And it might just take him to say,
778
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,420
"Hey, there's this really cool
new band called INXS."
779
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,060
Yep, he's a connector.
780
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:49,460
He genuinely wants musicians
to hear other musicians
781
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:54,780
and artists to be connected.
And, uh...I can only imagine
782
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,780
all those little sparks of things
that he's been a part of.
783
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,640
Molly connects with people
'cause he's such a dag.
784
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,180
And he's passionate.
785
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:06,660
But he's a big dag.
786
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,980
There was a little group
called Duran Duran
787
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,540
who were on tour
here in Australia,
788
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,780
and they were at a party
at his house
789
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,860
and he kept playing this record
I had just finished with INXS,
790
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,420
called Original Sin.
791
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,520
And they heard it,
and he kept playing it
792
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,900
over and over and over again.
793
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,540
And I know that Simon Le Bon
and Nick Rhodes,
794
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,580
all the guys were like going,
"What IS that?"
795
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,060
Like, "That's, like, the most
amazing thing we ever heard."
796
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,100
Um...and he said, you know,
"It's Original Sin."
797
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,820
Like, "Who produced that?"
"Nile Rodgers."
798
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,060
# Dream on, white boy
White boy... #
799
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,980
That was a powerful moment for them.
800
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,060
Something magical about INXS
801
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:51,420
and being with Molly at that moment
in their lives overwhelmed them.
802
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,740
Thank God, because, you know,
it's given me lifelong friends
803
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,860
and a group that I've made hit
records for over and over again.
804
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,380
# The reflex is a lonely child... #
805
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,700
Yo, Molly, thanks for playing
Original Sin for Duran Duran,
806
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,220
'cause, I mean,
that was our hook-up.
807
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,940
Had they not heard that
in that situation,
808
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,040
maybe we would have never
gotten together
809
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,760
or maybe it would have taken
a hell of a lot longer.
810
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,180
But...here it is, history. Thanks.
811
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,620
# Isn't that bizarre? #
812
00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:25,340
Duran Duran has shot to number one
first week in on the British charts.
813
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,460
Which of course makes
Duran Duran very happy.
814
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,560
REYNE: I think it was instrumental
815
00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:31,600
that Molly might have played
John Taylor the song Reckless.
816
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,440
He said, "That song of yours
Reckless, I love that.
817
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,520
"We love that song.
818
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,800
"Why don't you guys
come and support us
819
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,660
"on a tour of England and Scotland?"
820
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,260
I'm going, "Sure,"
821
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,360
but inside going...
(MOCKINGLY) .."Sure."
822
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,280
And we ended up touring
with Duran Duran
823
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,360
when they were probably
the biggest band,
824
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,580
when they were at the peak of
their Duran-ness.
825
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,580
# Don't be so reckless
826
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,660
# Throw down your gun... #
827
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,360
And I think that Molly
was instrumental in that.
828
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,780
So, thank you. Thank you, Ian.
829
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,380
We did this little secret gig
called the Singing Budgie,
830
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,860
and Michael Hutchence
was in the audience,
831
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,020
and we just started
seeing each other.
832
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,300
Molly was there, and he was
in the middle of the audience
833
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,940
just willing me to do well.
834
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,580
Mr Meldrum, this is my mother.
835
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,680
How do you do, Mrs Mitchell.
Hello.
836
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,100
I would have been nervous
meeting Molly for the first time
837
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,020
because he's Molly.
838
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,340
I mean, that's it.
839
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,380
But perhaps he was more nervous
than me because he had to act.
840
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,520
And that's quite a talented daughter
you've got there too, Mrs Mitchell.
Yes.
841
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:40,220
Molly was that keen on the Minogues,
became friends, became consistent.
842
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,300
# Whoa-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh... #
843
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,220
DANNII MINOGUE: Molly has been
such a champion for my family.
844
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,460
His passion for music is one thing,
845
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,420
his passion for pop music
is ridiculous.
846
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:59,220
And I guess he saw that we loved it
too and we wanted to do that.
847
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,460
He's supported us and pop music
848
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,420
through times when
'pop' was a dirty word.
849
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,100
# Better the devil you know... #
850
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,300
My friendship with Molly
just grew over time,
851
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,940
but I have to say he was such
a strong supporter in the beginning,
852
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:19,260
and the beginning for me
was very successful
853
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,780
but not a lot of critical acclaim
whatsoever.
854
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,580
Just kind of this
fresh, naive success.
855
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,180
So, to have his support
was fantastic,
856
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,540
and I think...I don't know,
857
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,020
he kind of took me under his wing
a little bit
858
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,340
and it really developed into
a mutual respect
859
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,860
and a love and a friendship.
860
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,940
He defended me all the time.
861
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,980
And that, for me, is something
that I've never forgotten,
862
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,340
I've never forgotten.
863
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,660
And I just thought,
"Wow, what a man."
864
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,880
He's always been
unbelievably supportive
865
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,600
and even probably when he shouldn't
have been, in the early days.
866
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,960
They said only the prime minister
could ever have a hat.
867
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,840
So, I'd like to present you
with a Molly's hat.
868
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:07,820
(LAUGHS)
869
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,680
Molly, at the end of the day,
is everybody's friend.
870
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,280
Unless you're trying to steal
his hat. Then you're dead.
871
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:14,260
(MAN SHRIEKS)
872
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,400
And every time I see someone
in Australia with a hat on
873
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,480
I think, "Maybe it's Molly!"
874
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,540
Yeah, Lindsay Fox gave him the hat,
which is a bit of a poor effort
875
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,640
when you think about
how many trucks he's got.
876
00:40:23,240 --> 00:40:25,240
Why didn't he give him a big truck,
877
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,720
a big shiny truck that
he can drive around in?
878
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,920
MAN: The famous hat
that he has today...
879
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,220
Yes.
I bought for him in Aspen.
880
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:33,580
He argues about that.
881
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,680
That's where it started.
Yes.
882
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,420
# And high on the hill
looking over the bridge
883
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,060
# To the MCG... #
884
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,240
PAULA FOX: I remember when
he arrived in the helicopter,
885
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,940
and as he got out
he flashed a browneye.
886
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,900
(LAUGHS)
887
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,660
It wasn't attractive.
888
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,300
Oh, looking at Molly's backside
889
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,140
is something that
I wasn't interested in.
890
00:40:56,240 --> 00:40:59,460
# I go in leaps and bounds... #
891
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,460
Every Christmas, Molly goes over
to the Foxes and sits down.
892
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,360
Not only Christmas, probably
Boxing Day, New Year's Day.
893
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,780
Like, quite often Molly will just
be, like, you know, the extra kid.
894
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:15,060
He had 17 Christmases with us,
and Nana Peele used to come.
895
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,380
Mrs Peele was my mother, and he just
gravitated towards my mother.
896
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:20,460
And she adored him.
897
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,560
And he'd come round
and have dinner with Mum
898
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,120
and she'd make him
a lovely home-cooked meal.
899
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,500
So, she was only in a little house
900
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,060
and he was around the corner
in a little house as well.
901
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,300
LINDSAY FOX: Molly would turn up
there at any time
902
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,820
and jump into bed with
this 75-year-old woman.
903
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,860
And this was just
a regular occurrence
904
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,580
as a kid would jump into
bed with his mum or dad.
905
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,100
And this must have
gone on for 10 years.
906
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,160
Do you think your mother
interfered with him?
907
00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:51,340
I don't think so.
(INTERVIEWER LAUGHS)
908
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,060
I don't think so. He's terrible.
God.
909
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,580
# I remember... #
910
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,600
He took her out one night,
which was interesting.
911
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,820
He got her out of bed
at about 11 o'clock at night
912
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,940
and he took her to a nightclub.
913
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,340
And they went into the city and he
got out of the car to do something
914
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,060
and the car took off down the hill.
915
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,380
So, she didn't go nightclubbing
with him again.
916
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,460
(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)
917
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,000
SYMONS: Hey Hey was
always a battleground.
918
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,400
It was everybody picking on
everybody else,
919
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,380
and Molly got his fair share.
920
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,700
I mean, right from the outset,
921
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:27,780
if he thought a band was good,
we would pooh-pooh the idea.
922
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,560
They sort of took the piss
out of Molly on Hey Hey,
923
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,280
but, at the same time,
they knew how important he was.
924
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,900
And it was all,
you know, like, I mean,
925
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,400
really they took the piss out of
everybody on Hey Hey It's Saturday.
926
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,240
He definitely had an impact
on Powderfinger's career
927
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,860
through that really mainstream
kind of medium.
928
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,580
Watch out for her.
She is absolutely sensational.
929
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,680
I remember playing him my demos
930
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,220
in the very early stages
of my writing career,
931
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,140
where his opinion was something
that I valued very, very much.
932
00:42:57,240 --> 00:42:59,440
It took a lot of guts for me
to kinda step up and go,
933
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,980
"Oh, excuse me, Molly, I know you
get a lot of demos and stuff,
934
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,720
"but this is my band and, you know,
if you could take a listen..."
935
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:11,260
I played my 14 12-year-old demos
to Molly and we spoke about music,
936
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:15,460
and he just was...absolutely knew
that I was gonna be doing music
937
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,780
and just completely supported
that from day one.
938
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,720
(I'M STILL STANDING
BY ELTON JOHN PLAYS)
939
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,940
That was a lot of fun, and that's
when he got involved with Elton John
940
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:34,020
and those kind of people.
# Happy birthday, dear Elton... #
941
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,520
Yeah, it totally makes sense that
Elton and Molly were friends.
942
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:37,500
Totally.
943
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,660
Archibald Prizewinner Wes Walters
944
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,760
painted an incredible
portrait of Molly,
945
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,940
and Elton John bought it
for him at auction
946
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,300
and it stands proudly in Molly's
house to this day.
947
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,520
# Your blood like winter
freezes just... #
948
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,560
OK, I've been to a few
parties with Molly
949
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,580
and I can't really talk about them.
950
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,680
(LAUGHS) As simple as that,
you know.
951
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:55,900
(LAUGHS)
952
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,940
When Molly's in party mode
953
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,620
it's probably best if
you're in party mode as well.
954
00:44:00,720 --> 00:44:03,560
And I think Ian obviously was
a lot worldlier than we were
955
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,100
and, you know, let us pretend that
we were the hard men of rock'n'roll
956
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,200
when I think he was actually
living harder that us.
957
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,560
I think he rode a Harley-Davidson
through my house one time.
958
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,420
# I'm still standing
better than I ever did... #
959
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,420
DANNII MINOGUE: He's in a limo
going up to the Dandenongs,
960
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,340
winding around the roads,
961
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,680
and, of course, Molly's having
a few drinks on the way.
962
00:44:25,240 --> 00:44:26,340
Molly says to the driver,
963
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,940
"I need to stop and get out
'cause I need to go to the toilet."
964
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,420
He stands up,
he's got his daks around his ankles,
965
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,500
he's having a whiz and falls
off the side of the mountain!
966
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,820
Tumbling down between all the trees
in the Dandenongs. "Aarggh!"
967
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,260
Swearing like anything.
968
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,180
# I'm still standing
969
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,020
# Yeah, yeah, yeah... #
970
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:53,220
I think when one got invited to
Ian's parties it was like "Wow!"
971
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,620
He showed us his cowboy tattoo
on his bum.
972
00:44:55,720 --> 00:44:57,760
(LAUGHS)
973
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,340
SAYER: Michael Chugg had
a birthday party in Phuket,
974
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,100
and Molly was there.
975
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,240
Out he comes
dressed as Marilyn Monroe.
976
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,260
It was...
977
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,360
Let's just say it was disastrous
and great in equal measures.
978
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,840
The ugliest Marilyn Monroe
I've ever seen in my life.
979
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,620
# Passionate kisses
980
00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:21,100
# Kiss me, kiss me, kiss me... #
981
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,580
We had a housekeeper come in,
982
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,060
and we forgot to tell her that Molly
was having a sleepover.
983
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,820
So, she's working away
in the kitchen, down comes Molly
984
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:35,100
simply wearing just the hat
and pink budgie smugglers
985
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,220
that looked like a serious mankini.
986
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:38,740
# Ooh, ooh, ooh
987
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,820
# 'Cause I'm on fire when you... #
988
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,660
So, everybody is cheering
at his house, another party,
989
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,060
and he presents me
with a present of this.
990
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,040
And he's standing there hugging me
and he's, like, "Check this out!"
991
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:55,660
(LAUGHS) And all of a sudden
this gorgeous woman walks on
992
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,040
and starts singing Born To Try
and dancing,
993
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,120
had way better legs than me -
994
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,140
and just, like, legs 11 -
and I was just...
995
00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:04,840
It was the first time I'd ever been
given a drag queen as a present.
996
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,460
# Passionate kisses... #
997
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,300
FANNING: Molly has a passion for
pretty much everything in his life,
998
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,620
whether it be music, Egypt, vodka...
999
00:46:16,720 --> 00:46:18,580
(LAUGHS) ..or the spa.
1000
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,000
We are on camera, so some things
we will take to our graves,
1001
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,140
but let me just say it was fun,
1002
00:46:23,240 --> 00:46:26,460
and whatever you think happened
at the parties, it was worse.
1003
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,960
I can picture Shane Warne
and Molly Meldrum in the spa.
1004
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,060
That's probably...
1005
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,060
..it's a little disturbing,
but yeah.
1006
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,900
Um, Moll's hand has been on my leg
plenty of times,
1007
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,700
um...but it wasn't in the spa, no.
1008
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,800
I might have had my hand on
someone else's leg in the spa,
1009
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:51,060
but it wasn't Molly's hand on mine.
# Kiss me passionately... #
1010
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,160
GUDINSKI: At the Melbourne Town Hall
1011
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,820
they've got portraits of kings
and queens of Moomba.
1012
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,840
I tell you, the photo of Molly, it
looks like he had a monster night.
1013
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,780
It looks like he had no sleep
whatsoever, ruffled and fluffled.
1014
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,880
CANHAM: You know that movie,
Peter Sellers, The Party?
1015
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:09,380
(LAUGHS) The elephant scene in that
often reminded me of Molly's house.
1016
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,980
Ian will, once he starts,
you just disappear,
1017
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,160
because if he happens to
get tired along the way
1018
00:47:15,240 --> 00:47:16,900
he's gonna pick a fight with you.
1019
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,100
He would always stand up for himself
1020
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,460
and he would always
stand up for his friends.
1021
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,460
So, wouldn't take a backward step.
1022
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,080
I think he did get into
a couple of little punch-ups.
1023
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:28,700
We had a massive blue out at the...
1024
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,920
And we got out of the car
and we were swinging at each other,
1025
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,000
and there was mud,
he was sinking in the grass,
1026
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,420
and two cars pulled up
and said, "Can you not...
1027
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,340
"Can you stop picking on Molly!"
He was picking on me.
1028
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,440
I think my wife knocked him out
one night.
1029
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,200
You know,
she punched him in the chin
1030
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,920
when he was having a fight
about his label with Michael.
1031
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,000
So, I've actually grabbed him,
I've shaken him.
1032
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,340
I remember shaking him
1033
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,580
and I've pushed his head
right in the microwave.
1034
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,160
You cannot shut a microwave door
with someone's head in it.
1035
00:48:06,240 --> 00:48:08,860
We'd been invited to a party
at Molly Meldrum's house,
1036
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,980
and just being a young
kid down here...
1037
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,340
We had to dress up. It was a
dress-up party, an Egyptian theme.
1038
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:18,140
# One way or another
I'm gonna find ya... #
1039
00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:20,880
The Egypt thing with Molly
is pretty incredible.
1040
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,960
'Cause that was one of the things,
when we went to his house
1041
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,160
to do an interview,
that I suppose I expected
1042
00:48:25,240 --> 00:48:27,680
to see a lot of music
memorabilia there.
1043
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,920
I mean, you are navigating
around pyramids and sphinxes
1044
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,000
and stuff there more than anything.
1045
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,400
It's incredible. It's really
beautiful, the collection of stuff
that he's got.
1046
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,480
It's incredible.
1047
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,940
The interior of his home
made a real big impact on me,
1048
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,040
'cause all Egyptian everywhere.
1049
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,260
And it was like,
"Oh, my God, this is amazing."
1050
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,120
Apparently he walks round his house
in his pharaoh's robes.
1051
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,200
But I haven't seen that.
1052
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,200
I'm surprised he hasn't
pulled the house down
1053
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,800
and just built a fuckin' pyramid.
1054
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,680
He was probably into bandage.
(LAUGHS)
1055
00:48:55,720 --> 00:48:58,160
When he was escorting Lady Diana
during Rocking the Royals,
1056
00:48:58,240 --> 00:49:00,360
she said, "I want to go back
to your house."
1057
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,440
So, he comes back to the house
1058
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,160
and his assistant's there
preparing lunch
1059
00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:07,000
for, you know, just Molly
really, and he then says,
1060
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,700
"Oh, please welcome to our house
Lady Diana."
1061
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,720
And the girl sort of said
something like,
1062
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,160
"Oh, yeah, and I'm a monkey's
uncle," you know!
1063
00:49:15,240 --> 00:49:19,100
Completely... And that is...
that is the tone of Molly's home.
1064
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,160
Yeah, look, I think we might have
both featured
1065
00:49:21,240 --> 00:49:26,500
on the front of his fence at various
stages throughout our careers.
1066
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,640
What's more bizarre is what's
on the other side of the fence.
1067
00:49:29,720 --> 00:49:34,020
His house is just...it's an absolute
museum. It's a freak show.
1068
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,260
(HOWZAT BY SHERBET PLAYS)
1069
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,020
VIZARD: You could have an interview
1070
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:40,820
where Molly's about to break
1071
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,660
the most significant rock'n'roll
story in history,
1072
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,380
but Molly, sitting on that story,
would be distracted
1073
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,620
if there was a change
to the St Kilda line-up.
1074
00:49:49,720 --> 00:49:51,860
# Howzat... #
1075
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,960
GUDINSKI: Only Molly would do
the outrageous
1076
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,840
and run onto the Junction Oval
1077
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,020
to give the St Kilda captain
Alan Morrow advice.
1078
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,800
RIEWOLDT: The first time I met him
was at the St Kilda
Team of the Century.
1079
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,240
You know, there were a lot of St
Kilda Football Club legends there,
1080
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,320
but for me and a few of
the other young guys,
1081
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,280
we just made a beeline for Molly.
1082
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,240
And I wanted to meet him as opposed
to all the footballers in the room.
1083
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,020
COMMENTATOR: It's taken by Breen!
1084
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:14,340
It's a...point.
1085
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,440
GUDINSKI: When I was very young,
1086
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,860
St Kilda won the only grand final
they'd won in 100 years,
1087
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,660
and the true story was
that Molly passed out
1088
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,220
when the scores were level,
30 seconds to go,
1089
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,740
and missed St Kilda
kicking the winning point.
1090
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,620
There's the siren!
St Kilda have won it!
1091
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:36,020
When the siren sounded, we all went
up hysterically and he fainted.
1092
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:37,460
# Howzat... #
1093
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,380
GUDINSKI: How he got into the
dressing-rooms was beyond me.
1094
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,660
Drinking champagne with St Kilda's
captain Darrel Baldock,
1095
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:44,660
what a hero.
1096
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:50,260
I was the president at the football
club there from about '79 to '86,
1097
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,500
and Molly was a standard feature.
1098
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,600
And he'd draw more attention
1099
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,200
than the footballers
running out of the race.
1100
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,300
# Howzat
1101
00:50:58,400 --> 00:50:59,780
# You messed about... #
1102
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,080
WARNE: I think it's quite funny
that Molly paints his fence
1103
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,160
in all the different things.
1104
00:51:03,240 --> 00:51:05,240
Especially I like it
when he does the Saints.
1105
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:06,660
It's great about the Storm too.
1106
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,760
But when the Ashes are on,
1107
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,760
that's sort of when
the real cricket comes in
1108
00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:11,740
and Molly does his fence
in Ashes stuff,
1109
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,840
Aussie flags,
all those sorts of things.
1110
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,180
And, no, he's brilliant.
1111
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,400
I think he was, like, one of the
guys who championed rugby league
1112
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,200
in Melbourne, and he was one of
the first guys that really brought,
1113
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,520
you know, more and more people
to the game.
1114
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,520
So, you know, I think rugby league
owes him as well.
1115
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,000
You know, he's always been
our number one supporter,
1116
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,100
and a very loyal supporter at that.
1117
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,460
Molly has a wicked sense of humour.
1118
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,140
That's another thing we connect on.
1119
00:51:35,240 --> 00:51:37,920
He's got a great sense of humour.
He's a funny bastard, you know.
1120
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,500
Molly's funny by being Molly.
1121
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,840
He's funny because
he's a unique one-off.
1122
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,180
He's funny 'cause he's eccentric.
He's funny 'cause he wears a hat.
1123
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,080
And he's funny because he's
doing a review of an artist
1124
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,160
and he's brought the wrong records.
1125
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,680
Some people tell jokes,
some people construct scenarios,
1126
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,500
some people do one-liners,
Molly doesn't do that.
1127
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,540
Molly is funny 'cause he's Molly.
1128
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:03,060
And one day at the Melbourne Cup,
when we'd had quite a big day,
1129
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,520
I looked over at Molly and someone
had offered him some chips,
1130
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,600
and before you know it
he grabbed one
1131
00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:10,820
and he went to light it
like a cigarette.
1132
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,100
Oh, I loved playing Molly.
He was my favourite.
1133
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,180
He's just, like, true blue,
1134
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,740
um...Aussie icon legend, you know.
1135
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,860
He's a bloody ripper, you know.
1136
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,540
He's a very, very bright man,
you know.
1137
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,820
And, regardless of people thinking
1138
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,340
that he can't string
two words together,
1139
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:31,900
that is not the case.
1140
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:36,500
Even when Molly's had a few...
he still makes a lot of sense.
1141
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,640
GUDINSKI: I think a lot of people
didn't realise
1142
00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:42,160
till he had that incredible success
for charity on Millionaire.
1143
00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:45,080
I think that really showed
how intelligent Molly was.
1144
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,300
(TOTAL CONTROL BY THE MOTELS PLAYS)
1145
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,460
Molly and Michael Gudinski
have a sort of...
1146
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,780
They love each other,
they've done great things together.
1147
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:55,880
They've been through
thick and thin together,
1148
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,800
they've seen the best
and the worst of each other.
1149
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,700
# Looking counterclockwise
1150
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,500
# Knowing what could happen... #
1151
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,320
KYLIE MINOGUE: You can't talk about
Molly without talking about Michael,
1152
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,980
because they're like brothers,
1153
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,320
or like two little old ladies
bickering.
1154
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,820
For no reason,
Ian started screaming at Michael
1155
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,980
and accused him of something
1156
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,360
and picked up papers and threw them
in his face and then stormed out.
1157
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,360
And I walked out and I said,
"That wasn't Michael's fault."
1158
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,440
And he said, "Yeah, I know."
1159
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:27,780
He said, "I was tired. I needed to
pep myself up." (LAUGHS)
1160
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,740
# Over you... #
1161
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,840
GUDINSKI: We had a label
together with Molly,
1162
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,360
Melodian Records, which we started.
1163
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,580
And that's the respect
that we had at Mushroom for Molly,
1164
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:40,980
was to create his own label,
and out of that came Peter Andre.
1165
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:42,740
Now, people don't know this -
1166
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,500
he didn't want any credit
for it at the time -
1167
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,920
the song was called Mysterious Boy.
1168
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,740
Now, Molly changed that lyric
to Mysterious Girl. Say no more.
1169
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,180
# Mysterious girl
I wanna get close to you
1170
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:57,940
# Oh, baby, baby... #
1171
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,780
Peter supported Madonna.
There was like a natural...
1172
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,840
I'm getting goose bumps actually,
talking about that thing.
1173
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,380
It's true, he changed that word,
which was a critical word,
1174
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,480
and when you think about Molly,
1175
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,400
you think he would have been happy
with the word 'boy', wouldn't you?
1176
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:10,900
But Molly was thinking.
1177
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,900
Now, Ian, you've had
your finger on the pulse of...
1178
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,100
I beg your pardon?
1179
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,200
SAYER: Molly's sexuality...
1180
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,540
Let's not forget that a gay man
working in television
1181
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:23,140
in the '70s and '80s would have got
thrown straight out of the room.
1182
00:54:23,240 --> 00:54:25,360
It's a sex that you've never
experienced before?
1183
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,440
I find this very hard to believe.
1184
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:28,960
(GIGGLES) Now,
let's control ourselves.
1185
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,520
Your reputation precedes you,
Mr Meldrum.
1186
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:31,620
I know.
1187
00:54:31,720 --> 00:54:33,940
Molly is not given enough credit
1188
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:38,420
for being the first out gay man
1189
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,300
in Australian media.
1190
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,440
REYNE: Molly, just he way
he just embraced,
1191
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,440
was completely open and proud
and straight-up,
1192
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,820
and it's brave now, but to be brave,
you know, in the '70s!
1193
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,220
Seriously brave.
1194
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:53,260
Some girls do...
and some girls don't.
1195
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,980
GAVIN WOOD: Well, what do you do?
Oh, please, Gav.
1196
00:54:56,080 --> 00:55:01,180
Ian was engaged a couple of times
to lovely girls.
1197
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,500
But they just never worked out,
1198
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,700
and, you know, so what?
1199
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,840
Neither did my three marriages!
I mean...
1200
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,980
On the last Countdown tour,
we got married.
1201
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,900
He said he was going to
go straight for me
1202
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,460
and he proposed to me on stage.
1203
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,480
It was lovely. I still have the
ring. I didn't give it back to him.
1204
00:55:29,460 --> 00:55:31,500
There's another side to Molly
that people, you know,
1205
00:55:31,580 --> 00:55:34,320
obviously don't see, and that's
what a wonderful parent he can be.
1206
00:55:34,420 --> 00:55:35,920
I mean, he's got Morgan.
1207
00:55:36,020 --> 00:55:38,380
GUDINSKI: In the mid-'80s,
Molly adopted the baby
1208
00:55:38,460 --> 00:55:41,780
of a very good friend of his, Jan.
His name is Morgan.
1209
00:55:41,300 --> 00:55:44,040
GOODREM: I would have just turned 14
when I first met Molly.
1210
00:55:44,140 --> 00:55:46,520
It was at a Christmas party -
HIS Christmas party -
1211
00:55:46,620 --> 00:55:48,320
at his wonderful Egyptian house.
1212
00:55:48,420 --> 00:55:51,520
Then I was sitting at the bench
around the corner in his house,
1213
00:55:51,620 --> 00:55:53,620
and I was just sitting
there by myself,
1214
00:55:52,940 --> 00:55:54,980
'cause there were a lot of
adults there, obviously,
1215
00:55:55,060 --> 00:55:58,840
and Morgan, his young son,
who was about the same age as me
1216
00:55:58,940 --> 00:56:00,840
came up and sat on the bench
next to me.
1217
00:56:00,940 --> 00:56:04,560
And we kind of got chatting
and chatted away kind of all night.
1218
00:56:04,660 --> 00:56:06,400
So, I found someone my age.
1219
00:56:06,500 --> 00:56:09,320
And all of a sudden Morgan and I
just became really great friends.
1220
00:56:09,420 --> 00:56:12,800
And really then, that was
the start of me becoming
1221
00:56:12,900 --> 00:56:15,000
a part of Molly's family
on a really family side,
1222
00:56:15,100 --> 00:56:16,760
it didn't really become music first.
1223
00:56:16,860 --> 00:56:21,480
And when he first heard those early
songs in demo form of Delta's music,
1224
00:56:21,580 --> 00:56:23,580
he just knew that was
something special.
1225
00:56:23,380 --> 00:56:26,400
Because we had such a personal
family relationship
1226
00:56:26,500 --> 00:56:28,920
I've been able to ask him
questions throughout my life.
1227
00:56:29,020 --> 00:56:32,520
INTERVIEWER: Was it important to you
for Molly to be proud of you?
1228
00:56:32,620 --> 00:56:34,920
Yeah, very much so.
1229
00:56:35,020 --> 00:56:37,840
Sorry, that's a really hard one.
The way that hits me.
1230
00:56:37,940 --> 00:56:39,360
Um...yes.
1231
00:56:39,460 --> 00:56:41,120
Yeah, sorry, sorry.
1232
00:56:41,220 --> 00:56:42,680
Um...yeah.
1233
00:56:42,780 --> 00:56:45,200
(STAMMERS) It's, um...it's...it's...
1234
00:56:45,300 --> 00:56:47,300
Sorry.
1235
00:56:47,900 --> 00:56:52,120
Yes, it's been really important for
Molly to be proud of me doing music.
1236
00:56:52,220 --> 00:56:54,360
Um...
1237
00:56:54,460 --> 00:56:58,440
You know, uh...I guess when people
really support you and care
1238
00:56:58,540 --> 00:57:01,880
and, um, uh...
1239
00:57:01,980 --> 00:57:04,560
..when they really take the time
to listen and care
1240
00:57:04,660 --> 00:57:06,900
and talk you through the different
chapters that you go through,
1241
00:57:06,980 --> 00:57:08,760
you value that.
1242
00:57:08,860 --> 00:57:11,840
And I've only ever wanted to
make him proud as an artist
1243
00:57:11,940 --> 00:57:13,560
and as an adult.
1244
00:57:13,660 --> 00:57:17,080
Morgan's almost 30 now,
and he's looked after him,
1245
00:57:17,180 --> 00:57:19,420
he's brought him up,
and now Morgan's got a child,
1246
00:57:19,500 --> 00:57:21,820
so Molly gets to be a grandpa.
1247
00:57:26,500 --> 00:57:29,680
I rang him
and the phone didn't answer.
1248
00:57:29,780 --> 00:57:33,400
So, I thought, "Oh, he's
in the backyard doing something."
1249
00:57:33,500 --> 00:57:37,080
So, I rang Joe the gardener,
and Joe answers the phone.
1250
00:57:37,180 --> 00:57:39,420
He says, "Yeah, I'm just
in the shed out the back
1251
00:57:39,500 --> 00:57:42,420
"and Molly's come down from
the roof to answer your call,
1252
00:57:42,500 --> 00:57:44,540
"and he missed it,
he's gone back up."
1253
00:57:44,620 --> 00:57:47,220
And I've gone, "Oh, right, OK, well,
I'll speak to him later."
1254
00:57:47,300 --> 00:57:51,200
And then straightaway,
within seconds of us talking,
1255
00:57:51,300 --> 00:57:53,300
he just yelled through the phone,
1256
00:57:53,140 --> 00:57:56,400
"Molly's just fallen off the roof.
He's hit his head.
1257
00:57:56,500 --> 00:57:59,960
"Call an ambulance."
NEWSREADER: Molly's fight for life.
1258
00:58:00,060 --> 00:58:04,080
Family, friends and celebrities
rally for a favourite son.
1259
00:58:04,180 --> 00:58:06,800
MILLER: In 2011,
we were all just sitting around
1260
00:58:06,900 --> 00:58:11,080
preparing for the onslaught of
family and everybody for Christmas,
1261
00:58:11,180 --> 00:58:16,600
and we heard that Ian was seriously
ill after falling off the ladder.
1262
00:58:16,700 --> 00:58:18,700
VIZARD: Mate, what are you
doing for Christmas?
1263
00:58:18,580 --> 00:58:20,580
What's your plan of attack?
1264
00:58:20,020 --> 00:58:23,680
MOLLY: I'm leaving to go
to Bangkok next Tuesday.
1265
00:58:23,780 --> 00:58:26,320
(ON RECORDING)
And then I'm going to Phuket
1266
00:58:26,420 --> 00:58:28,040
and staying there for a month.
1267
00:58:28,140 --> 00:58:31,760
INTERVIEWER: Tell us
about that day in December 2011.
1268
00:58:31,860 --> 00:58:34,680
Molly was a regular guest
on my radio show.
1269
00:58:34,780 --> 00:58:40,720
It was the weekend before Christmas
and Molly came in to have his chat.
1270
00:58:40,820 --> 00:58:44,560
Molly and I were talking about
how important your health is.
1271
00:58:44,660 --> 00:58:50,440
And then that night Molly had been
in a horrible, horrible accident.
1272
00:58:50,540 --> 00:58:54,000
My phone started to ring
and it was the media.
1273
00:58:54,100 --> 00:58:56,920
And the first call I just answered
naturally, without thinking,
1274
00:58:57,020 --> 00:59:00,240
and they said, "We've heard that
Molly's had a horrific fall."
1275
00:59:00,340 --> 00:59:02,200
And I've just all of a sudden...
1276
00:59:02,300 --> 00:59:03,960
I think that was the moment
when I went,
1277
00:59:04,060 --> 00:59:05,560
"Oh, holy shit, this is serious."
1278
00:59:05,660 --> 00:59:07,080
I got a call from Yael.
1279
00:59:07,180 --> 00:59:09,720
Yael, you know, was crying.
1280
00:59:09,820 --> 00:59:11,680
She said Ian had had a fall,
1281
00:59:11,780 --> 00:59:15,280
come to the Alfred
as quick as you can.
1282
00:59:15,380 --> 00:59:17,380
My wife and I went straight there
1283
00:59:17,180 --> 00:59:19,960
and we were met
by the doctor's there
1284
00:59:20,060 --> 00:59:23,840
and we went into
a sort of a side room.
1285
00:59:23,940 --> 00:59:27,400
He was...he'd just arrived,
1286
00:59:27,500 --> 00:59:30,840
and I guess within about half
an hour I was in there to see him.
1287
00:59:30,940 --> 00:59:32,940
He was obviously unconscious,
he was in a very bad way.
1288
00:59:33,020 --> 00:59:35,020
It was a very distressing moment.
1289
00:59:34,420 --> 00:59:38,560
What happened, he tried to climb up
with his mobile phone,
1290
00:59:38,660 --> 00:59:40,840
his bloody cigarettes,
1291
00:59:40,940 --> 00:59:44,680
and you can't climb a ladder
with those in your hands.
1292
00:59:44,780 --> 00:59:46,640
And he lost...and he fell.
1293
00:59:46,740 --> 00:59:49,420
But what he did as he came down,
he collected the ladder,
1294
00:59:49,500 --> 00:59:55,960
which was not on a 45-degree pitch,
it was more like a 70-degree pitch,
1295
00:59:56,060 --> 00:59:57,440
and so as he went down,
1296
00:59:57,540 --> 01:00:00,140
every part of his body hit
those rungs of the ladder.
1297
01:00:00,220 --> 01:00:04,040
So, his jaw, his shoulder,
his rib cage, his elbow,
1298
01:00:04,140 --> 01:00:05,880
his legs, his knee, all of that.
1299
01:00:05,980 --> 01:00:09,340
And then, he said, "The only thing
I can't remember was
the concrete at the bottom."
1300
01:00:09,420 --> 01:00:11,420
It's a waiting game,
1301
01:00:10,420 --> 01:00:13,460
so certainly not out of the woods
by any stretch of the imagination.
1302
01:00:13,540 --> 01:00:15,540
Molly's still in an induced coma,
1303
01:00:15,060 --> 01:00:17,220
and I suspect that's gonna be
the case for a number of days.
1304
01:00:17,300 --> 01:00:19,280
# Your arms are warm
1305
01:00:19,380 --> 01:00:21,520
# They make me feel... #
1306
01:00:21,620 --> 01:00:23,620
COHN: The surgeons came in and said,
1307
01:00:22,900 --> 01:00:26,720
"Look, we have to do
emergency surgery on his head."
1308
01:00:26,820 --> 01:00:30,320
And as soon as they said that,
I just fell apart,
1309
01:00:30,420 --> 01:00:33,460
because it was, like, "What?"
1310
01:00:34,660 --> 01:00:37,960
I can't begin to tell you the shock.
1311
01:00:38,060 --> 01:00:40,840
Like, um, even now
I don't like talking about it.
1312
01:00:40,940 --> 01:00:42,320
It was just awful, awful.
1313
01:00:42,420 --> 01:00:44,980
It's horrible when your friends
get sick and you think,
1314
01:00:45,060 --> 01:00:47,060
am I not gonna see them again?
1315
01:00:46,300 --> 01:00:49,340
You know, I really need to tell them
a lot of things, you know.
1316
01:00:49,420 --> 01:00:52,800
It was like a family member
being unwell.
1317
01:00:52,900 --> 01:00:54,900
You know, it's really,
really tough times.
1318
01:00:54,820 --> 01:00:56,880
It was so...
1319
01:00:56,980 --> 01:00:59,860
..disturbing to think that...
1320
01:01:01,620 --> 01:01:03,040
..he mightn't survive.
1321
01:01:03,140 --> 01:01:06,300
Of course you fear the worst,
and, uh...
1322
01:01:08,860 --> 01:01:12,480
..oh, I just felt for him,
like everyone else, yeah.
1323
01:01:12,580 --> 01:01:16,040
The thought of someone like him
1324
01:01:16,140 --> 01:01:20,800
losing his life to an accident
like that was, um...heartbreaking.
1325
01:01:20,900 --> 01:01:23,000
And I followed it every day.
1326
01:01:23,100 --> 01:01:27,080
He wouldn't have had the accident,
but what he did,
1327
01:01:27,180 --> 01:01:29,720
it was getting close
to four o'clock.
1328
01:01:29,820 --> 01:01:32,580
And I dropped in and we were
sitting around and he said,
1329
01:01:32,660 --> 01:01:34,560
"Listen, I need you to take
1330
01:01:34,660 --> 01:01:38,000
"the Vanessa Amorosi masters
to Sing Sing."
1331
01:01:38,100 --> 01:01:41,360
Yeah, it wouldn't
have probably happened
1332
01:01:41,460 --> 01:01:43,460
if he hadn't have asked me
1333
01:01:42,820 --> 01:01:44,900
to take those master tapes
to Sing Sing.
1334
01:01:44,980 --> 01:01:50,280
# I'm in chains
1335
01:01:50,380 --> 01:01:55,480
# I'm in chains
1336
01:01:55,580 --> 01:01:57,320
# I'm in chains... #
1337
01:01:57,420 --> 01:02:01,360
I'd just joined Twitter and I
suddenly saw Molly's name trending,
1338
01:02:01,460 --> 01:02:03,000
and I thought, "Well, what's..."
1339
01:02:03,100 --> 01:02:05,200
You know, normally that's
not such a good thing.
1340
01:02:05,300 --> 01:02:08,060
Mum called me on the phone and,
yeah, it really rattled me.
1341
01:02:08,140 --> 01:02:11,360
Then it seemed to be it was
a life-or-death situation,
1342
01:02:11,460 --> 01:02:15,800
and this all happened
over maybe about 12 hours.
1343
01:02:15,900 --> 01:02:18,740
I told Elton, I told Mick Jagger and
that as well, and they were, like,
1344
01:02:18,820 --> 01:02:22,120
"Oh, my God," you know,
"Please pass on our best to Molly."
1345
01:02:22,220 --> 01:02:25,760
I think I went through the
"He'll be absolutely fine, right?"
1346
01:02:25,860 --> 01:02:27,240
Like, you know, absolutely fine.
1347
01:02:27,340 --> 01:02:31,200
Like, I couldn't stomach that
he wasn't gonna get through that.
1348
01:02:31,300 --> 01:02:33,300
We're really concerned for his life.
1349
01:02:32,780 --> 01:02:35,060
I mean, this is
a life-and-death matter.
1350
01:02:35,140 --> 01:02:37,840
Here he was perfectly well yesterday
1351
01:02:37,940 --> 01:02:40,020
and here he is today
fighting for his life.
1352
01:02:40,100 --> 01:02:42,900
COHN: Brian and I went
and saw him before his operation.
1353
01:02:42,980 --> 01:02:45,620
We looked at each other, and
there was just that moment of...
1354
01:02:45,700 --> 01:02:48,440
We could see the man
was fighting for his life.
1355
01:02:48,540 --> 01:02:52,160
He was fighting for each breath,
and I thought,
1356
01:02:52,260 --> 01:02:55,840
"You can't get rid of him
that easy. No way." Sorry.
1357
01:02:55,940 --> 01:02:59,320
Throughout it all, my prime concern
was for Ian Meldrum,
1358
01:02:59,420 --> 01:03:00,640
it wasn't for Molly Meldrum.
1359
01:03:00,740 --> 01:03:02,740
It was for Ian Meldrum, my brother.
1360
01:03:01,940 --> 01:03:05,440
And I think that's how
it had to be treated -
1361
01:03:05,540 --> 01:03:09,080
treated as someone in your family
who's in an hour of need
1362
01:03:09,180 --> 01:03:11,840
and, therefore,
you've gotta respond to that need.
1363
01:03:11,940 --> 01:03:14,620
The doctor that operated on Molly
was a friend of Lindsay's,
1364
01:03:14,700 --> 01:03:17,080
and they were quite concerned.
1365
01:03:17,180 --> 01:03:19,740
They fought really hard
to save Molly's life.
1366
01:03:19,820 --> 01:03:23,280
He did a magnificent job.
That surgeon was sensational.
1367
01:03:23,380 --> 01:03:25,380
# Any minute now
1368
01:03:28,140 --> 01:03:30,480
# My ship is coming in... #
1369
01:03:30,580 --> 01:03:32,580
Why were you up a ladder, Moll?
1370
01:03:33,780 --> 01:03:39,380
# I keep checking the horizon
1371
01:03:42,540 --> 01:03:45,620
# And I'll stand on the bow
1372
01:03:48,500 --> 01:03:51,620
# And feel the waves come crashing
1373
01:03:54,460 --> 01:03:56,460
# Come crashing down
1374
01:03:57,380 --> 01:04:03,120
# Down, down on me... #
1375
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,640
Fans of Molly Meldrum
are being told to be patient
1376
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:07,900
as they wait for news
on the music guru
1377
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,780
who fell from a ladder at his home
on Thursday night.
1378
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,780
Luckily, he survived.
1379
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,120
And I think he still
suffers a bit of pain
1380
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,200
with the problems that he had.
1381
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:20,160
I know he's got lots of plates
and that in his leg.
1382
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,640
KLEMENS: I got a phone call from,
I think it was his brother,
1383
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,740
if I remember, saying,
"Look, there's a little issue.
1384
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,440
"Molly's actually escaped."
I said, "Escaped from what?"
1385
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:30,520
And he said, "Escaped from..."
1386
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:31,880
I said, "Well, escaped
from hospital?!"
1387
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,600
So, he'd had enough
and he'd walked home.
1388
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:35,780
I could feel that Molly
was up to something.
1389
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,300
Not only was he busting
to get out of hospital,
1390
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,860
he was asking me questions
about the location
1391
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:44,300
when he crosses the road
to go into his physio, etc.
1392
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:48,820
When he went to rehab, he just
turned and started walking home.
1393
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:50,920
He's a, you know, bastard,
he won't stay in hospital.
1394
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:52,680
You know, they turn their back
and he keeps going for walks,
1395
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:54,640
and trying to walk home.
1396
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:55,720
So, he wanted to be
in his own house.
1397
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,200
So, at that point I realised
1398
01:04:56,760 --> 01:05:00,180
he maybe still be sort of
recovering, but he was gonna be OK.
1399
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:03,160
The escape was great
because the escape was him saying,
1400
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:04,740
"I'm ready to come home now."
1401
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:06,840
And then I just used to
cook some food
1402
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,440
and go over and sit with him
and talk to him.
1403
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,960
HAY: I think he has incredible
intestinal fortitude
1404
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,740
and he has a great constitution.
1405
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,560
Very strong. Like, he's physically
incredibly strong.
1406
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,280
SLATER: The first time I saw Molly
after the accident was at a game.
1407
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,320
We'd just narrowly
beaten our opponents,
1408
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,820
and I was sitting on the field,
you know, waving to the crowd,
1409
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,500
and I just seen the hat
up in a stand,
1410
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:32,600
and above the hat was his hand
1411
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,080
waving a purple and white scarf
around.
1412
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,480
So, you know, it was a great moment.
1413
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,120
You just won't find a better
person on this planet.
1414
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,400
WARNE: He's always got along well
with my mum and dad, my brother.
1415
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:44,480
He gets along great
with my children too.
1416
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:47,260
So, you know, a true friend
knows your family,
1417
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:49,360
you know, they know your parents,
they know your children,
1418
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:51,800
they know...they've shared
some experiences with you too.
1419
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,020
JACKMAN: When Molly met my son,
my son was about six,
1420
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:55,700
and he's really into nature.
1421
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,300
And he was just...I watched him,
he was watching my son,
1422
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,420
who was off sort of in the garden,
and we were in a group talking,
1423
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,300
and he just sort of went off
and just...
1424
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,060
I looked over and just realised
he'd been hanging with Oscar
1425
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:07,620
for I don't know how long.
1426
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:11,280
And at the end of the day, he took
off his hat and gave it to Oscar.
1427
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:16,260
And Oscar...to this day,
has that hat, treasured that hat.
1428
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:18,500
And that really... It's so weird.
1429
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,600
Oscar went through a period
where he hadn't worn the hat
1430
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:21,860
for a couple of years,
1431
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:25,700
and he put it on one morning
and he wore it to school.
1432
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:29,740
And that was the day that Molly had
that tragic accident, when he fell.
1433
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,040
You know, he is,
he's a good friend of the family's
1434
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:33,700
and a great friend of mine.
1435
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:37,060
As a parent, when you see someone
outside of all the hullabaloo
1436
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:40,980
and drinks and meeting,
when you see them walking over
1437
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:47,220
and just hanging with your kid,
that's why people love Molly.
1438
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:48,620
That's why I love him.
1439
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,720
He's great friends with my wife,
1440
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:53,860
and she's done him up a painting
of him and Ziggy,
1441
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,420
his little dog, and the hat, so...
1442
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,260
# Say goodbye
# Say goodbye... #
1443
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:01,860
His whole kind of thing
was bringing the music
1444
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:03,960
and the bands to the people,
1445
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,540
but for us
he was just as kind of famous.
1446
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:09,580
I think Molly has always been
the ambassador of rock'n'roll.
1447
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:13,740
And hopefully every country
has a Molly Meldrum.
1448
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:15,840
The people that he's been able
to interview,
1449
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:17,420
which nobody else could get -
1450
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:19,600
you know, the biggest acts
in the universe -
1451
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:23,180
Molly had 'em because of his love
of music and the industry
1452
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,280
and the people in the industry.
1453
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:28,740
He was the voice of Australia,
as far as music went, in the UK.
1454
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:30,840
Molly's always been obsessed
with music
1455
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,200
and new bands that are coming up,
and still is.
1456
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:34,080
You know, very rarely
do you get people
1457
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:39,380
where that enthusiasm and interest
and energy keeps going.
1458
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:41,840
Once Molly was out of hospital,
it wasn't too long
1459
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,820
before he found a great
new artist - Sarah Rzek -
1460
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:48,880
and recorded and produced
a great new single for her.
1461
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:53,920
# And your eyes are closing down
on the day. #
1462
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:58,800
A good friend of mine
in the audience tonight.
1463
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:00,300
I've known this guy
seems like all my life.
1464
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,400
Put your hands together
for Molly Meldrum.
1465
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:03,780
Come on, guys.
1466
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:07,140
(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)
1467
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:08,780
What a character.
1468
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:12,420
I like to feel my life has been
more colourful with him in it.
1469
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:13,580
Thank you, Molly.
1470
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:15,760
I don't think I've met anyone
that dislikes Ian.
1471
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:17,840
It's, like...it's just
the way it is.
1472
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,880
If you were in the trenches, Molly
would definitely be one of the guys
1473
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,120
that you'd say, "Rightio, Moll,
I want you next to me, mate."
1474
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,420
And you know what? He would be too.
1475
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:26,900
People that have been around
for 40 years or more -
1476
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,420
you know, the Stones,
Rod Stewart, Madonna,
1477
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,020
you name 'em - they know who he is.
1478
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:33,940
And they know what
an influence he's been.
1479
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,640
(CHEERING)
1480
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:40,540
Wanna say a few words?
1481
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:42,640
I love you too.
1482
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:47,060
AUDIENCE: (CHANTS) Molly! Molly!
Molly! Molly! Molly!
1483
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:51,140
Molly is very highly regarded
worldwide
1484
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:55,340
by the heads and moguls
of record companies,
1485
01:08:55,440 --> 01:08:58,240
television people
and the artists themselves.
1486
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:01,700
I know, for instances,
over the years
1487
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:05,500
where Rod Stewart would only
do one interview for the world,
1488
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:06,940
and that was Molly.
1489
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,040
I've come from warm sheets
to do this interview,
1490
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,640
You know that, don't you?
I realise that, yes.
1491
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,620
And you've come up well
after the party last night.
1492
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,380
Four hours' sleep.
Pardon? How many hours' sleep?
1493
01:09:15,480 --> 01:09:16,380
About four.
1494
01:09:16,480 --> 01:09:18,100
You went to bed at seven.
It's now five.
1495
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,720
Seven. Well, it took me
five hours to get ready.
I see.
1496
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,900
Molly...he started so early
that he sort of like,
1497
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,000
he became synonymous
with television.
1498
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:29,220
It was sort of like, you know,
if Brian Henderson wasn't on
1499
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:32,860
or Molly wasn't on, then there's
something wrong with television.
1500
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,760
He was one of the original heads
that turned up.
1501
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,860
Molly Meldrum's life and times
1502
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:42,620
is something that all Australians
should be proud of mostly
1503
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,620
and should celebrate
in true tradition.
1504
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,540
And I think that is putting
a smile on my face,
1505
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,140
I know that would be
putting a smile on Ian's face.
1506
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:55,020
Molly would give you his soul. He's
just an amazing, generous person.
1507
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:59,600
There's just so much in his heart
that he loves to give. Mm.
1508
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:03,200
Jeez, I'm lucky he's not straight,
he might have run off with you.
1509
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,820
(LAUGHS) I don't think so.
1510
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:07,820
Lindsay.
1511
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:11,380
I've known Ian 'Molly' Meldrum
for 47 years.
1512
01:10:11,480 --> 01:10:14,100
47 bloody years -
can you believe it?
1513
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,340
And our relationship today's
no different
1514
01:10:16,440 --> 01:10:19,420
to what it was 47 years ago.
1515
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,520
I'm very proud to be his mate.
1516
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,040
I'd like to kill him
more often than not,
1517
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:26,340
but I am very proud
to be Molly's mate.
1518
01:10:26,440 --> 01:10:30,100
CROWD: (CHANTS) Molly! Molly!
Molly! Molly! Molly!
1519
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:32,660
MORRIS: He will be embarrassed,
1520
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:34,820
but he'll be proud
about the documentary.
1521
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:36,900
He'll think,
"Oh, why do people fuss over me?"
1522
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,260
But he'll be really proud
that it's been done.
1523
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:42,800
Molly will hate the fact that he had
no control over this documentary.
1524
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,880
Molly will love the fact that it
covers all aspects of his life.
1525
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:50,180
He'll get embarrassed about people
talking so highly of him.
1526
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:54,440
But deep down he'll love
the recognition, and he deserves it.
1527
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,100
Wow.
It feels good being Molly Meldrum.
1528
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,520
Greetings, Molly.
Do yourself a favour.
1529
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:08,720
Do yourself a favour.
Do yourself a favour.
1530
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,740
This is a big hat to fill.
Do yourself a favour.
1531
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:13,840
Cheers, mate.
Hats off to you.
1532
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,320
Love ya, Moll.
Love ya, Moll. Mwah.
1533
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:16,660
We love you, Molly.
We do.
1534
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:18,720
Thanks, Moll.
Do yourself a favour.
1535
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,420
Do yourself a favour.
Love you, Molly.
1536
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,180
Um...uh...uh...
1537
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:27,600
This is what's under his hat.
This is what's under MY hat.
1538
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,500
Long may you wear it.
You are the real thing.
1539
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:31,600
Do yourself a favour.
1540
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,940
Good on ya, son.
You want to do what?!
1541
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,120
Thanks, Moll.
Good on ya, Molly.
Mwah!
1542
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,200
Love ya, Molly.
You're the best, mate.
1543
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,540
I'm so sorry I didn't accept
your hand in marriage.
1544
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:42,540
Love ya, Moll.
Thanks, Molly.
1545
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:44,260
Do yourself a favour.
1546
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,220
F Troop.
We take our hats off to ya.
1547
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,320
We love you down
at the Melbourne Storm.
1548
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:50,400
Thanks, Moll. I'm feeling
very Brokeback Mountain.
1549
01:11:50,480 --> 01:11:53,220
This hat's too big for me.
Wear it proud.
1550
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:55,320
The world's a better
place with you.
1551
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:56,700
Molly Meldrum, we love you.
1552
01:11:56,800 --> 01:12:00,140
Thanks, Ian,
for making my life a joy.
1553
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:01,860
Love you, Molly. Go, Saints.
1554
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:04,340
What are you? Amazing!
1555
01:12:04,440 --> 01:12:06,640
I think this is looking
good on me, Molly.
1556
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:08,140
Now I'm wearing the hat.
1557
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:09,420
You are the real thing.
1558
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,300
Here I am again,
talking about you, lovey!
1559
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,020
Do yourself a favour, Molly.
1560
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:15,340
You're the best.
1561
01:12:15,440 --> 01:12:16,660
I'm not Molly Meldrum.
1562
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:20,280
Molly, last time
you said farewell to me...
1563
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:23,840
To you.
(LAUGHS)
1564
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:26,940
That is shocking!
1565
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:30,460
Oh, Lindsay. Oh, you can't do that.
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