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- A bomb plot at
The Home Depot in Long Island.
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- Well,
that's pretty serious stuff.
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- Why that Home Depot?
Why is this happening?
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- What's wrong with this guy?
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Why is he putting
so many people in danger?
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[sirens wailing]
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We had dispatched hundreds
of detectives and agents.
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- This is a callous,
calculating,
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horrible individual.
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But we didn't have a lead
on this guy.
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And then at the same time
as this investigation,
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there's gonna be a storm.
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[tense music]
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- Sandy is expected
to head up the coast,
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then turn west,
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making landfall
near New Jersey
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on Tuesday.
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♪ ♪
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- Hurricane Sandy
is threatening
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to wipe out
our entire investigation.
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- You guys gotta
keep the case going, right?
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- We're doing everything
you can possibly do.
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And there's not a lot of time.
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[explosion]
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[dramatic music]
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- In the FBI, we make
a lot of headlines.
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♪ ♪
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Drug busts,
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mob stings,
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terrorist takedowns.
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- Get down! Get down!
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- We understand why people
want to tell stories about us.
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- Mark it.
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- Freeze!
- FBI.
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- FBI!
- Action!
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- But they don't know
the half of it.
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[indistinct radio chatter]
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What really goes down,
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we save that for each other
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when we're talking
agent to agent.
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♪ ♪
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This is "FBI True."
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[tense music]
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♪ ♪
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- Cindy Coppola is a 23-year
veteran of the FBI.
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She worked on cases
that included
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organized crime and terrorism
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and took part in multinational
investigations
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into drug trafficking
and money laundering.
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Coppola finished her career
with the Los Angeles division
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running two offices,
supervising investigations,
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and providing undercover
security for special events.
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- Steve, I'm so glad
we could grab a beer today.
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Remind me,
when did you come in?
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What year was it?
- I actually started
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in the Bureau
back in 1988.
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- Steve Troyd was an agent
with the FBI for 28 years.
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He was an investigator
on the terrorist attacks
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of September 11th.
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Troyd was also a supervisor
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in the FBI's New York
Metro Gang Task Force.
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♪ ♪
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- How did you end up
getting to LIRA?
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- Certain areas,
like Long Island,
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had actually developed
quite a gang problem.
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- But as things happen,
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you get there
and you get other cases.
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And, you know, we had a bomb--
an extortionate bomb--case
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targeting Home Depot
around that time.
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- I want to hear
about the case now.
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A Home Depot case?
- Sure.
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- What was that?
- Yeah.
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It was
a very successful store.
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It was in Huntington,
up Rogues and 10th.
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Around the middle of October,
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a manager, Andy,
got a letter in the mail.
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- What was exactly
in the letter?
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- Well,
the letter starts off as:
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"To the store manager..."
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"I want 2 million,
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"or I will shut down
all your Long Island stores
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on Black Friday."
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"And pay me this one time,
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"and you will have my word you
will never hear from me again.
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"I will call your store
at noon on October 17th
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to see what you decide."
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- Well,
that's pretty serious stuff.
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- Yeah.
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- Obviously,
the manager's thinking,
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"Holy shit, there's a bomb
in one of my stores."
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Home Depot,
what did they want to do?
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- They evacuate The Home Depot.
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And the bomb squad go to
the lighting department area,
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which was indicated
in the ransom letter.
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They look through
the lighting department,
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and they find the bomb.
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- A bomb plot at
The Home Depot in Long Island.
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The FBI confirming a pipe bomb
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planted inside
on or near a shelf
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where innocent people
could find it and get hurt.
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- This person had rigged it
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so that there was a string
attached to the shelving.
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And if they pulled the box
off the shelf,
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that would trigger
the explosion.
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Using one of those robots...
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They move the bomb
into an area
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where no one's gonna be hurt
if it goes off.
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They X-ray it. They see
there's a pip in there.
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They decide they're gonna
shoot the bomb with a round
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that's supposed to knock off
the endcap on the pipe
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'cause the pipe
has two endcaps on it.
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And when they're
in the process of doing that,
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the thing explodes.
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[explosion]
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So it was a real bomb.
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Nobody got hurt,
thank God,
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but it was pretty damaging
for a small pipe bomb.
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You know,
it shot into a steel door,
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and it left a lot of damage
on the door.
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It shot through the ceiling.
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And the walls had debris.
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And I was just,
like, thinking,
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my God,
what's wrong with this guy?
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Why is he putting
so many people in danger?
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This is a person
who doesn't care
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about, you know, your regular
guy going into Home Depot
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to buy a light
for his bathroom.
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The question in my mind
was, like, who's doing this?
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- Going back to the letter,
did you send it to the lab?
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I mean, 'cause the lab
can detect prints, anything.
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- So the letter was sent
for prints and DNA analysis.
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- Anything off of the bomb? No?
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- We didn't get
any clues from that.
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But they did find cat hair
in the letter.
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- You guys find cat hair?
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- There's cat hairs
in the letter, yeah.
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- That's a little strange,
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but at the same token,
he's a little crazy.
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So what did you do then?
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- We look
at the most likely suspect--
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in this case,
the manager--
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you know, 'cause he's the guy
that brings the letter
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to our attention,
so right away, it's like,
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hmm, is he doing
something wrong?
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We went into Home Depot,
and we met with the manager.
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But he was a good guy.
He cooperated completely.
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He loved working there.
He was happy to be there.
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He was bragging
about the company.
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He thought that the corporation
was good to the people.
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And I ruled him out
as a suspect pretty quickly.
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The bomber said in his letter
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he was gonna call back
the manager on October 17th.
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We had agents standing by
at the location
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waiting
for that one phone call.
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And we were going
to try and trace him.
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[phone ringing]
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- So the manager
gets the call.
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- Yeah, he gets
the ransom call at noon,
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and we were listening
to every word.
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- The phone call
was kind of brief.
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- What did you learn
from that phone call?
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- The fact that they knew
what number to call.
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We're suspicious
that it's an employee.
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- So it wasn't the
general number for Home Depot.
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It was a specific extension.
- Yeah, it was
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a specific extension
that he had chosen.
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And he showed
that he had
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at least done
some surveillance work.
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And he knew where he had
a internal phone list,
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so it made us think
that this is somebody
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that is working there.
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So we were looking
through lists of employees
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who had been
disciplinary problems,
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had quit
under bad circumstances,
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but nobody stood out.
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And then the first phone call,
we were able to identify
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through the computer system
at Home Depot.
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And it came back to a phone
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that was one of those
pay-as-you-go phones.
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So that's our one solid link.
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But it was hard to kind of
track who the buyer was
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because it was purchased
with cash from a 7-Eleven.
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And I have two agents.
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And they look at the history
of the phone.
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So we were able
to identify that phone number.
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So then we check
some of the numbers.
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I saw that there was, like,
these calls months before.
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Calls out to Craigslist ads.
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When we had, like,
a team of analysts,
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they followed up
on the phone numbers.
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And they looked
at the Craigslist ads.
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They kind of
subpoena it backwards.
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- Right, to find out
who was buying this stuff
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or potentially
looking at the ads.
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- Exactly. Exactly.
- Yeah.
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- And they found
that this target is buying
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a jet ski, scuba gear,
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some oxygen bottles.
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- So that number
that called The Home Depot...
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- Right.
- Had called these Craigslist--
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- Yeah, and they were
getting descriptions
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from the people that were
selling stuff to the subject,
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like he's in a green van--
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in a Ford van, I believe.
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White male.
- Oh, well, that helps.
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- Yeah.
- That helps, right?
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'Cause you didn't
have anything.
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- You're developing
some information--
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some identifying information.
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But we still don't know
who he is.
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And then a few days later,
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a second ransom letter arrives
at Home Depot.
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Four days before Black Friday,
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the biggest shopping day
of the year.
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[cheering]
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The letter reads...
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"To keep from being shot
from a distance,
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I am going to be wired up
like a Christmas tree."
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"I'm going to deposit
in one of your stores
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"the morning of the drop
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"a new device I designed.
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"If you drop off anything
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"besides
U.S.-circulated currency,
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I will end Black Friday."
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This letter caused
a lot of activity on our part
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because it basically shows us
how callous this individual is.
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- And who knows if there was
another bomb somewhere else?
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Right?
- Absolutely.
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And at the same time
of this investigation,
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we were hearing on the news
that there was gonna be
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this incredible storm coming,
you know?
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- Hurricane Sandy
is churning its way
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up the east coast this evening,
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heading for landfall
in the mid-Atlantic region
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early next week.
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- I said, you know, these
weather guys are always wrong.
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You know?
- Yeah.
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- So I don't think there's
gonna be a storm, you know?
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But if a storm
does hit the east coast,
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the investigation
could be turned on its head.
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- So what do you guys do next?
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- The concern was
that it was somebody
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who was, you know,
working at Home Depot,
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was querying
this list of Craigslist sites.
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We did have people
that we interviewed
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and questioned
for long periods of time
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because they were electricians
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and they had basic skills
to create a bomb.
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- Yeah, I mean,
well, if you think about it,
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people that work at Home Depot
have some handyman skills.
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- But they were
not panning out.
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- So were you able
to finally track them down?
253
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- There's an IP address.
254
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By stepping out
into the modern world
255
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and using a phone,
he kind of revealed himself.
256
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And then we were able
to subpoena some information--
257
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- Sure, you can do ping order.
258
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Or everything.
- Yeah, you can do everything.
259
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And we start getting
some specialists involved
260
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who track cell towers.
261
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And we found him.
262
00:12:16,736 --> 00:12:18,955
- This guy matches
the description
263
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of the guy who was
buying stuff off of Craigslist.
264
00:12:21,044 --> 00:12:23,655
And it turns out
that he has a green van,
265
00:12:23,743 --> 00:12:26,397
just like the target
that we were looking for.
266
00:12:26,484 --> 00:12:29,836
And he's an employee
of Huntington Home Depot.
267
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- What's his name?
- Daniel Patrick Sheehan.
268
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And it's a relief
to think that,
269
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okay, we have
a viable subject here
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because, you know,
he's saying
271
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that he's gonna plant
more devices in the Home Depots
272
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and, you know, we're hoping
to stop that if we can.
273
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- You know where he lives now,
right?
274
00:12:51,335 --> 00:12:52,684
- Yeah, he lives
in a nice little home--
275
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a tudor home--
in Deer Park.
276
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And he's got a wife
and a child.
277
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And they have two cars.
278
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- So you know
the guy's name now,
279
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you know where he lives,
all that stuff.
280
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So what do you guys do next?
281
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- The next thing we're gonna do
is we're gonna put,
282
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you know, a tracking device
on him to keep tabs on him
283
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to have him
under surveillance--
284
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technical surveillance,
physical surveillance,
285
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phone surveillance.
286
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We had
all these different parts,
287
00:13:17,579 --> 00:13:20,321
and it all came together
very quickly.
288
00:13:20,408 --> 00:13:22,062
But we don't want
to scare him off
289
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because we still
need more evidence.
290
00:13:23,977 --> 00:13:25,630
And to make matters worse,
291
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Superstorm Sandy
was about to hit.
292
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- Businesses are bracing
for Hurricane Sandy.
293
00:13:30,635 --> 00:13:34,726
And residents are hoping
walls of sandbags will hold.
294
00:13:34,814 --> 00:13:36,293
- There were thing happening
around me that I saw--
295
00:13:36,380 --> 00:13:39,731
that, like, people were,
you know, boarding up windows.
296
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Nobody had a second to do
anything for their families.
297
00:13:41,646 --> 00:13:44,040
- Right. And you guys got
to keep the case going, right,
298
00:13:44,127 --> 00:13:45,781
in spite of this storm?
299
00:13:45,868 --> 00:13:48,131
- Yeah, and this storm
is bringing even more people
300
00:13:48,218 --> 00:13:50,873
to Home Depot who are
desperate for supplies.
301
00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:52,222
We got to catch this guy.
302
00:13:52,309 --> 00:13:53,920
He was threatening something
303
00:13:54,007 --> 00:13:56,400
that could have
terrible consequences.
304
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- The entire eastern seaboard
of the United States
305
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has been put on alert.
306
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- This thing hits, and
I'm sitting in my living room,
307
00:14:06,019 --> 00:14:06,933
thinking, oh, man.
308
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- Welcome
to "CBS This Morning."
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As daylight arrives,
much of the east coast
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is waking up to see
the full devastation
311
00:14:16,159 --> 00:14:17,944
of Superstorm Sandy.
312
00:14:18,031 --> 00:14:20,163
- The storm was pretty bad.
313
00:14:20,250 --> 00:14:21,686
There were some trees down.
314
00:14:21,773 --> 00:14:23,340
There were power outages
all over the place.
315
00:14:23,427 --> 00:14:24,689
- Did you lose power?
- I lost power.
316
00:14:24,776 --> 00:14:26,256
- Your whole life's disrupted,
you know?
317
00:14:26,343 --> 00:14:28,302
- Oh, yeah,
terrible disruption.
318
00:14:28,389 --> 00:14:30,478
You know, you're sleeping
in the cold, dark.
319
00:14:30,565 --> 00:14:33,611
I'm charging my phone
in the car.
320
00:14:33,698 --> 00:14:35,091
You know, you're showering
in the gym, at the office,
321
00:14:35,178 --> 00:14:36,832
'cause they have power there.
322
00:14:36,919 --> 00:14:40,662
- And your suspect
is still at large, right?
323
00:14:40,749 --> 00:14:42,751
- We had sent a detective
to his house
324
00:14:42,838 --> 00:14:44,665
on some other ruse call
325
00:14:44,753 --> 00:14:46,320
just to see what was
going on at the house.
326
00:14:46,407 --> 00:14:48,757
- Don't you have
enough evidence to arrest him?
327
00:14:48,844 --> 00:14:50,759
- No, we needed
to catch him with the phone,
328
00:14:50,846 --> 00:14:52,369
but it had been turned off
for a while.
329
00:14:55,372 --> 00:14:57,287
So I figured
I'd walk into Home Depot
330
00:14:57,374 --> 00:14:59,637
and try to find him myself.
331
00:14:59,724 --> 00:15:01,944
He's in the window
and doors department.
332
00:15:02,031 --> 00:15:04,164
I found him.
333
00:15:04,251 --> 00:15:05,992
When I met him face-to-face,
334
00:15:06,079 --> 00:15:09,212
it was strange
to see how normal he was.
335
00:15:09,299 --> 00:15:11,649
And I said, "Hey,
are there any generators?"
336
00:15:11,736 --> 00:15:12,955
And then, you know,
he said, like,
337
00:15:13,042 --> 00:15:14,696
"Home Depot was unprepared."
338
00:15:14,783 --> 00:15:16,654
You know, and I thought to
myself, oh, that's interesting.
339
00:15:16,741 --> 00:15:19,831
You know, he's critical...
both: Of Home Depot.
340
00:15:19,919 --> 00:15:23,748
- He's obviously angry with the
corporate structure, you know?
341
00:15:23,835 --> 00:15:25,185
Even if it was
just a passing comment,
342
00:15:25,272 --> 00:15:27,709
that was just his gut reaction.
343
00:15:27,796 --> 00:15:30,320
And I said, "Okay, thank you,"
and I just moved along.
344
00:15:30,407 --> 00:15:31,539
You know,
it kind of clicked with me
345
00:15:31,626 --> 00:15:32,627
what kind of person he was.
346
00:15:32,714 --> 00:15:34,324
- Disgruntled.
- Disgruntled.
347
00:15:34,411 --> 00:15:36,109
Cynical, right?
348
00:15:36,196 --> 00:15:37,501
Everybody's out for themselves.
349
00:15:37,588 --> 00:15:38,850
- When did you guys
get enough evidence
350
00:15:38,938 --> 00:15:40,417
to arrest this guy?
351
00:15:40,504 --> 00:15:42,898
- We're doing everything
you can possibly do.
352
00:15:42,985 --> 00:15:45,118
We're waiting for his burner
phone to be turned back on
353
00:15:45,205 --> 00:15:47,033
so we can see what he's up to.
354
00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,600
And I get a call from the
surveillance operation guys.
355
00:15:49,687 --> 00:15:51,428
And they're like,
356
00:15:51,515 --> 00:15:52,908
"The phone just went on
for, like, ten seconds."
357
00:15:52,995 --> 00:15:54,910
- Oh, my gosh, finally.
358
00:15:54,997 --> 00:15:57,739
- And this guy is
in a Home Depot parking lot.
359
00:15:57,826 --> 00:15:59,523
It's not the one he works in.
360
00:15:59,610 --> 00:16:01,047
He worked
in the Huntington one,
361
00:16:01,134 --> 00:16:03,266
and he went
to the Commack one.
362
00:16:03,353 --> 00:16:05,529
And he basically
turned the phone on.
363
00:16:05,616 --> 00:16:07,314
And he's sitting in his van
364
00:16:07,401 --> 00:16:09,577
in the Commack
Home Depot parking lot.
365
00:16:09,664 --> 00:16:11,187
We're like, okay.
We told the SO guys,
366
00:16:11,274 --> 00:16:13,233
"Keep on him.
We'll be right there."
367
00:16:14,974 --> 00:16:16,627
A bunch of us
jumped in the car.
368
00:16:16,714 --> 00:16:18,542
So we're driving up there now
and find out
369
00:16:18,629 --> 00:16:21,893
he's driving
around the mall slowly.
370
00:16:21,981 --> 00:16:22,851
- But you don't know
what he's doing.
371
00:16:22,938 --> 00:16:24,679
- We had no clue.
372
00:16:24,766 --> 00:16:25,897
For all we knew,
he could be using the phone
373
00:16:25,985 --> 00:16:28,248
to detonate a bomb.
374
00:16:28,335 --> 00:16:31,077
So we had to act fast.
375
00:16:31,164 --> 00:16:33,601
So we tell SO to stop him.
376
00:16:33,688 --> 00:16:35,603
And we're gonna
engage this guy.
377
00:16:39,737 --> 00:16:41,609
So they stop his van.
378
00:16:41,696 --> 00:16:44,177
SO goes over to him.
379
00:16:44,264 --> 00:16:46,527
It's a very tense situation.
380
00:16:46,614 --> 00:16:48,224
And he says,
"Hey, listen,
381
00:16:48,311 --> 00:16:51,401
"you know, we're getting a
report about some stolen iPads
382
00:16:51,488 --> 00:16:53,360
from a location,"
an Apple Store, something,
383
00:16:53,447 --> 00:16:55,362
"and your van
matches the description
384
00:16:55,449 --> 00:16:57,190
"of the van that was
observed in the area
385
00:16:57,277 --> 00:16:58,582
"during one of the robberies.
386
00:16:58,669 --> 00:17:00,149
"And would you mind
giving us consent
387
00:17:00,236 --> 00:17:01,672
so we can just eliminate you?"
388
00:17:01,759 --> 00:17:03,109
And, you know,
he's like, "Yeah.
389
00:17:03,196 --> 00:17:04,762
No, I didn't steal no laptops."
390
00:17:04,848 --> 00:17:07,722
You know, he's
completely oblivious to it.
391
00:17:07,809 --> 00:17:11,247
And then SO looks in the van,
and he sees the Tracfone.
392
00:17:13,249 --> 00:17:14,598
And the battery's out of it.
393
00:17:14,685 --> 00:17:17,384
And he puts the phone together
and calls me.
394
00:17:17,471 --> 00:17:18,819
- Oh, with the phone?
395
00:17:18,906 --> 00:17:19,907
Oh, that's awesome.
- Yeah.
396
00:17:19,994 --> 00:17:21,344
So I'm like,
it's the phone.
397
00:17:21,431 --> 00:17:23,303
And then we decided
we're gonna arrest him.
398
00:17:25,392 --> 00:17:27,133
- Awesome, right away.
- Yeah, which is great.
399
00:17:27,220 --> 00:17:29,309
- That's great, yeah.
- Great collaborative effort.
400
00:17:31,137 --> 00:17:33,269
- What was his reaction?
401
00:17:33,356 --> 00:17:35,706
- He's basically in denial.
402
00:17:35,793 --> 00:17:37,665
Well, we get him back
to the office.
403
00:17:37,752 --> 00:17:40,450
We had some guys there that
were ready to interview him.
404
00:17:40,537 --> 00:17:41,669
And he's making up stories
like,
405
00:17:41,756 --> 00:17:43,540
"That phone is
one of the guys'--
406
00:17:43,627 --> 00:17:44,541
"the day laborers'.
407
00:17:44,628 --> 00:17:45,934
"I let them use that phone.
408
00:17:46,021 --> 00:17:47,370
You know,
rather than my phone--"
409
00:17:47,457 --> 00:17:49,633
- So he's bullshitting.
- He's bullshitting.
410
00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,026
So we caught him
with the burner phone.
411
00:17:51,113 --> 00:17:53,289
It's a pretty damning piece
of evidence.
412
00:17:53,376 --> 00:17:55,030
And we had
the two letters he wrote.
413
00:17:55,117 --> 00:17:58,425
Then he's in a position
where, "Okay, you got me."
414
00:17:58,512 --> 00:18:01,123
But now he wants
to talk about what he did,
415
00:18:01,210 --> 00:18:02,951
you know, like,
how it's a ego thing,
416
00:18:03,038 --> 00:18:04,735
like how smart he was,
417
00:18:04,822 --> 00:18:07,129
like how he put cat hair
in one of the letters
418
00:18:07,216 --> 00:18:08,696
to throw us off.
419
00:18:08,783 --> 00:18:10,306
And he doesn't have one.
He took a cat off the street.
420
00:18:10,393 --> 00:18:11,916
Put hairs...
[laughs]
421
00:18:12,003 --> 00:18:14,354
- Jesus, that's weird.
422
00:18:14,441 --> 00:18:16,443
- Just think of the time
that this guy spent on this.
423
00:18:16,530 --> 00:18:18,140
You know,
and then the Craigslist stuff
424
00:18:18,227 --> 00:18:20,490
was all a part of his plan
to get the money.
425
00:18:20,577 --> 00:18:23,450
The wetsuit, the air bottles,
the jet ski--
426
00:18:23,537 --> 00:18:25,539
he was gonna set up a scenario
427
00:18:25,626 --> 00:18:29,543
where he had this jet ski
in Huntington Harbor.
428
00:18:29,630 --> 00:18:31,762
And he went out
and he bought a cooler
429
00:18:31,849 --> 00:18:34,156
that he attached
to the jet ski.
430
00:18:34,243 --> 00:18:35,679
And then, with his wetsuit
431
00:18:35,766 --> 00:18:39,379
and his basically
reserve bottles of oxygen,
432
00:18:39,466 --> 00:18:43,731
he was gonna be
under the jet ski in the water,
433
00:18:43,818 --> 00:18:45,472
and we were gonna
place the money
434
00:18:45,559 --> 00:18:47,648
in the cooler
on the jet ski.
435
00:18:47,735 --> 00:18:49,258
And then he was gonna
take the money out
436
00:18:49,345 --> 00:18:50,607
from underneath the jet ski.
437
00:18:50,694 --> 00:18:52,174
- Get out.
- I swear.
438
00:18:52,261 --> 00:18:55,395
- It's like he's watching
too many James Bond movies.
439
00:18:55,482 --> 00:18:57,179
- If you know what
a million dollars looks like
440
00:18:57,266 --> 00:18:59,964
when it's a pile of money
on a table, it's a giant brick.
441
00:19:00,051 --> 00:19:01,401
- Yeah, he's not gonna
be able to, like--
442
00:19:01,488 --> 00:19:02,706
- And these little bottles?
443
00:19:02,793 --> 00:19:04,273
'Cause we had them
in evidence.
444
00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:06,841
And he's like, "Yeah,
they have 60 breaths each."
445
00:19:06,928 --> 00:19:09,235
And I'm like,
"You know how quickly
446
00:19:09,322 --> 00:19:10,758
you can go through 60 breaths?"
- 60 breaths?
447
00:19:10,845 --> 00:19:12,151
- You know,
and you're underwater,
448
00:19:12,238 --> 00:19:13,500
and you're exerting yourself,
449
00:19:13,587 --> 00:19:14,979
and you're trying
to move this money.
450
00:19:15,066 --> 00:19:16,720
And, you know,
the whole scheme
451
00:19:16,807 --> 00:19:18,418
depends on whether
we're gonna cooperate.
452
00:19:19,332 --> 00:19:21,856
- So did you finally find out
453
00:19:21,943 --> 00:19:23,684
the reason why he wanted
to bomb Home Depot?
454
00:19:23,771 --> 00:19:26,643
- He has
these ridiculous reasons.
455
00:19:26,730 --> 00:19:28,123
One, he's like,
"Well, they only gave me
456
00:19:28,210 --> 00:19:30,734
"nine hours a week to work.
457
00:19:30,821 --> 00:19:33,302
And they made me work
on my birthday."
458
00:19:33,389 --> 00:19:35,130
And I'm like, "Okay."
459
00:19:35,217 --> 00:19:36,827
- Oh, I worked many
of my birthdays.
460
00:19:36,914 --> 00:19:38,394
- I can't remember
the last time I had--
461
00:19:38,481 --> 00:19:39,526
I used to go out and
arrest people on my birthday
462
00:19:39,613 --> 00:19:41,180
'cause that was,
like, a great thing.
463
00:19:41,267 --> 00:19:43,878
And then he goes, "And they
took my Homer Award away."
464
00:19:43,965 --> 00:19:45,314
- Homer Award?
What is that?
465
00:19:45,401 --> 00:19:47,447
- He goes,
"It was a $100 gift card."
466
00:19:47,534 --> 00:19:49,144
And then...
- Oh, my.
467
00:19:49,231 --> 00:19:51,451
- All right,
so you want $2 million
468
00:19:51,538 --> 00:19:53,714
because you lost
your $100 gift card?
469
00:19:53,801 --> 00:19:55,933
- So did you guys proffer him?
470
00:19:56,020 --> 00:19:58,632
And did they offer a plea?
- Yeah.
471
00:19:58,719 --> 00:20:02,157
So, you know, he's looking
at 30 years for what he did.
472
00:20:02,244 --> 00:20:05,334
But he's insisting, you know,
the bomb wasn't active,
473
00:20:05,421 --> 00:20:07,293
the fuse was not attached.
474
00:20:07,380 --> 00:20:10,383
But it doesn't matter.
He's gonna go to trial.
475
00:20:13,951 --> 00:20:15,344
His wife is in the back
of the courtroom.
476
00:20:15,431 --> 00:20:17,128
And I looked at her face.
477
00:20:17,216 --> 00:20:20,741
And you could just see she was
so angry that he did this.
478
00:20:20,828 --> 00:20:22,830
- Yeah, a shame.
- And, you know, he's like,
479
00:20:22,917 --> 00:20:25,136
"Honey, I did this for us."
- Yeah, I know.
480
00:20:25,224 --> 00:20:26,964
- It was just like, oh, my God,
what happened to this guy?
481
00:20:27,051 --> 00:20:29,706
He was like a stone cold killer
blowing things up,
482
00:20:29,793 --> 00:20:31,273
and now he's worried
his wife is gonna,
483
00:20:31,360 --> 00:20:32,622
you know,
kick his ass.
484
00:20:32,709 --> 00:20:34,145
- His attorney says
he was depressed
485
00:20:34,233 --> 00:20:35,930
over losing work hours.
486
00:20:36,017 --> 00:20:38,237
- The ignition system
that he created,
487
00:20:38,324 --> 00:20:41,805
he deliberately left incomplete
and left out key components
488
00:20:41,892 --> 00:20:44,330
so that it could not ignite.
489
00:20:44,417 --> 00:20:46,027
So that's the defense.
490
00:20:48,072 --> 00:20:50,292
- He's trying to say,
"Oh, I did an extortion,
491
00:20:50,379 --> 00:20:53,948
"but I didn't use a bomb 'cause
a bomb would've been reckless.
492
00:20:54,035 --> 00:20:55,645
A bomb would've hurt people,
and that's not me."
493
00:20:55,732 --> 00:20:57,952
- But it was explodable, right?
494
00:20:58,039 --> 00:21:00,650
[explosion]
495
00:21:04,872 --> 00:21:06,526
- It blew up
when we tried to deactivate it.
496
00:21:06,613 --> 00:21:07,788
- He's trying to minimize.
497
00:21:07,875 --> 00:21:09,268
He was trying
to minimize basically.
498
00:21:09,355 --> 00:21:11,618
- Yeah, he's finagling
a lesser sentence.
499
00:21:11,705 --> 00:21:12,836
- Sure.
- And I said,
500
00:21:12,923 --> 00:21:14,664
"You go to trial
and you blow trial,
501
00:21:14,751 --> 00:21:16,753
"you got 30 years
you're looking at.
502
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,799
"You're a 50-year-old man.
503
00:21:18,886 --> 00:21:20,757
Like,
your life is over essentially."
504
00:21:20,844 --> 00:21:21,932
"No, no."
I said,
505
00:21:22,019 --> 00:21:26,589
"If you get a plea
for ten years,
506
00:21:26,676 --> 00:21:29,157
you'll still be able to go back
and be with your son."
507
00:21:30,071 --> 00:21:32,378
And he said to me,
"No, in my opinion,
508
00:21:32,465 --> 00:21:34,597
ten years is as much as 30."
509
00:21:34,684 --> 00:21:36,382
And I'm like,
"You're quitting.
510
00:21:36,469 --> 00:21:39,341
"You're quitting on your kid.
You're quitting on your wife.
511
00:21:39,428 --> 00:21:41,517
You're quitting on your life."
- Yeah, himself.
512
00:21:41,604 --> 00:21:42,866
- "And, you know,
you're looking
513
00:21:42,953 --> 00:21:44,825
to blame other people
for your failure."
514
00:21:44,912 --> 00:21:46,566
But, I mean,
I was of the opinion, like,
515
00:21:46,653 --> 00:21:48,698
how hard am I gonna try
to convince this guy?
516
00:21:48,785 --> 00:21:50,613
We had him dead to rights.
517
00:21:50,700 --> 00:21:51,919
The case was solid.
- Sure.
518
00:21:52,006 --> 00:21:54,965
- A seasoned prosecutor
is gonna destroy this guy.
519
00:21:55,052 --> 00:21:56,619
And--
- You guys are gonna win.
520
00:21:56,706 --> 00:21:57,490
- We were gonna win.
- Yeah.
521
00:22:14,289 --> 00:22:17,684
[dramatic music]
522
00:22:17,771 --> 00:22:20,034
I'm so glad we got a chance
to get to know each other.
523
00:22:20,121 --> 00:22:21,557
- Yeah. No, it was nice.
- And have a beer, you know?
524
00:22:21,644 --> 00:22:23,037
- Yeah.
- Congrats.
525
00:22:23,124 --> 00:22:24,647
Good job on the case.
- Thank you. Thank you.
526
00:22:24,734 --> 00:22:27,215
- I'm glad you're retired,
but I've got one question.
527
00:22:27,302 --> 00:22:28,521
- Uh-oh.
528
00:22:28,608 --> 00:22:30,131
- Do you still shop
at Home Depot?
529
00:22:30,218 --> 00:22:31,567
[laughter]
530
00:22:31,654 --> 00:22:33,134
- All the time.
- Awesome.
531
00:22:38,269 --> 00:22:41,185
[dramatic music]
532
00:22:41,272 --> 00:22:49,063
♪ ♪
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