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- A sailboat
with four Americans
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was pirated off of Africa.
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They thought,
well, that's American.
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We'll get that money.
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But there was just
a ton of Navy ships there.
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Then it gets a little dicey,
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and then these bursts
of gunfire.
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[gunfire]
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The SEALs get on board,
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and you can hear the medic say,
"Urgent, surgical,"
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and then you see guys
starting to do CPR.
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- We're just hoping
for their safe return.
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- So it turns out the pirates
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have a negotiator
that's on land.
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They work out the ransom,
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and now we have to go
into Somalia to arrest the guy.
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- To me, this is,
like, a precedent--
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a piracy case
where it was on land.
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You're chasing this guy
around Africa.
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The local law enforcement's
not gonna help you.
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- At the time,
it was literally lawless,
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and we're like, there's no way
we're chasing this guy around
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and not bringing him back.
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[dramatic music]
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- In the FBI, we make
a lot of headlines.
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♪ ♪
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Drug busts,
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mob stings,
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terrorist takedowns.
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- Get down! Get down!
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- We understand why people
want to tell stories about us.
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- Mark it.
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- Freeze!
- FBI.
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- FBI!
- Action!
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- But they don't know
the half of it.
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[indistinct radio chatter]
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What really goes down,
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we save that for each other
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when we're talking
agent to agent.
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♪ ♪
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This is "FBI True."
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[tense music]
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♪ ♪
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- Cindy Coppola is
a 23-year veteran of the FBI.
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She worked on cases
that included
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organized crime and terrorism
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and took part in
multinational investigations
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into drug trafficking
and money laundering.
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Coppola finished her career
with the Los Angeles division,
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running two offices,
supervising investigations,
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and providing undercover
security for special events.
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- My wife was kind of
bugging me.
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I was gone a lot,
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like, Monday to Friday
almost every week.
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She was telling me, "Hey,
you haven't spent a lot of time
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with your son lately,"
like, you know.
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So I'm like, "All right, I'm
gonna take off early on Friday.
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"I'll pick him up from school.
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go up
and we'll get some pizza."
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- Rob D'Amico served in the
U.S. Marines for 30 years
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on active duty and reserves.
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He was a member of the FBI's
elite Hostage Rescue Team.
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D'Amico became a key link
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between the Bureau
and the U.S. Military.
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He was deployed to Iraq,
Africa, and Afghanistan
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on missions to counter
piracy and terrorism.
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- Literally,
I order the pizza.
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My phone rings.
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It's restricted call,
which you know is coming
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from a government office,
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and she told me, like,
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"Hey, we're hearing
about a pirate thing.
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"A sailboat with four Americans
was pirated off of Africa,
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and I need you to be ready
to go overseas,"
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and I'm like, "You gotta
be fucking kidding me."
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So I drove home,
and then go code blue
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all the way up
from North Carolina
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to the Navy Command in Virginia
to get on a plane or something.
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- Yeah, you can't
miss that flight
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because you now have
four Americans in danger,
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being held hostage
on that yacht.
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- That's a four-hour drive,
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and I'm gonna get there
in three hours.
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So I'm going blue lights.
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I would see traffic,
I would hit the siren.
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I'm up by the North Carolina/
Virginia border.
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I pass by a cop in the median,
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and I'm doing about 95.
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[sirens wailing]
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I see him pull out,
and all of a sudden
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he starts catching me.
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I'm like, "Holy shit"--
- He's gonna pull you over.
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- And I'm like,
"You gotta be kidding me."
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So I pull over,
and I'm pissed.
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I jump out of the car
with my creds.
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And I'm like, "FBI!
What the fuck are you doing?"
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So I said,
"I gotta go--can't explain."
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I screech into the parking lot
in this compound,
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and I literally park,
and it was three hours...
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- On the dot.
- On the dot,
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and I run up
to the command center,
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and they're talking to the
SEAL commander who's on scene.
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This was a true blended
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military/law enforcement
operation.
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You had the Navy
'cause it was at sea.
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You got the SEALs there,
because it's an assault team,
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and then, you got us, the FBI,
'cause piracy's a crime
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that's gonna be prosecuted
back in a U.S. court.
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This sailboat,
this U.S. flag sailboat,
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The Quest, was pirated by,
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they were saying, like,
19 pirates from Somalia.
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- So since you're working
counterterrorism at the time,
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what did you know about piracy?
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- Absolutely, at that point,
nothing.
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- Nothing?
- Like, piracy started,
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like, for the Somalis defending
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their territorial waters
with fishing,
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and then they started seeing
these big freighters going by,
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grabbing them.
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- I think I remember
news reports at the time.
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There was a couple from Seattle
and someone from California.
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- Ignoring explicit warnings
about pirates, two couples,
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Jean and Scott Adam and
Phyllis Macay and Bob Riggle,
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sailed alone
across the Indian Ocean
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in their 58-foot yacht,
The Quest.
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- They had been sailing
with the Blue Water Rally,
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which planned to stay together
for safety reasons
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as it headed from Mumbai
to the Gulf of Aden
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on its way to the Suez Canal.
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Prayers were said
for the hostages captured
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by the Somali pirates.
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Jean and Scott Adam
had been distributing Bibles
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on their
'round-the-world sail.
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The couple are members
of this Santa Monica church.
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- We're just hoping
for their safe return.
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- Can you imagine
their friends and family
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just worried sick about them?
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♪ ♪
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The yacht's
off the coast of Oman,
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and there's
an aircraft carrier
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and some other ships
sailing towards it.
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So we get on a plane.
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We get to Oman.
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They start talking
about getting us out
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to the aircraft carrier,
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and there was, like,
one last flight out of Oman.
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The three of us get left off.
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So I call the Navy Command.
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I said, "Hey, Pete, it's Rob.
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"I'm in Oman.
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"We just got kicked off the
last flight going to the ship.
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"You need to call the ship
and have them call the pilots,
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"'cause literally,
the plane's about
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to start turning propellers,"
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and all of a sudden,
sure enough,
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we're standing there, and this
crew chief comes running out.
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The back of the ramp opens up,
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and he's like,
"You guys off, you guys on."
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- Outstanding.
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- We land
on the aircraft carrier.
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But there was just
a ton of Navy ships there.
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Admiral McRaven,
the JSOC commander,
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had made a call saying,
"Hey, look,
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do not let that sailboat get
to Somalia,"
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because once they get
to Somalia,
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then the chances
of us doing any interdiction
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or--it drags on for years.
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- The local law enforcement's
not gonna help you.
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- At the time,
it was literally lawless.
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- Nearly 100 vessels
have been hijacked
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off the east coast of Africa
so far this year.
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- In three years,
the pirates have netted
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an estimated $30 million.
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- In all,
Somali pirates are believed
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to be holding
17 different ships
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and up to 270 crew members
hostage
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across the Indian Ocean.
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- They were kind of like
mules in the drug world.
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It was like the warlords
that would then get
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these crews to go out
and do their dirty work.
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We're brought
from the aircraft carrier
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over to the destroyer
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that's literally
right next to The Quest.
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- Has anybody made contact
with the Americans yet?
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Like, do the Americans know
that there's U.S. Military
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or FBI or anybody nearby?
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- Yeah, they're above deck.
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They can see
that this is going on.
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Matter of fact, I think the
gentleman who owned the boat,
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Scott Adam,
there were some fuel issues,
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and he was helping fix it.
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He was doing the thing,
trying to ingratiate himself
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with the pirates,
again, which is a tactic--
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make yourself human to them...
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- Sure.
- And be useful.
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So that was going on,
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but we're not trying to board
them or do anything like that.
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Our ship's negotiator is
talking on this loudspeaker,
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and then it gets
a little dicey.
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We can hear
some yelling down there.
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The snipers are reporting like,
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"Hey, some things
are going on,"
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and then all sudden,
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we look at the back
of the ship,
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and the guy grabs the RPG--
- It's like, "Holy shit."
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[chuckles]
- And he fires it.
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And, like, it goes over us
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while we were looking at it
like, "Damn, well"...
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- "They're not
messing around now."
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- And then all sudden,
I remember, like, looking down
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at The Quest, and
just these bursts of gunfire.
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[gunshots firing]
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The SEAL commander
basically gave the go
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for emergency assault.
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The SEALS get on board,
and then all sudden,
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the front of the sailboat,
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you see there's a hatch that
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goes down into the state rooms,
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and--and pirates just start
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flowing out
with their hands up,
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and while we're arresting them,
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all sudden, you could hear
the medics start to say,
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"Urgent, surgical."
We've been overseas enough
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that "Urgent, surgical"
is not good to hear in that,
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and then you see some guys
starting to do CPR,
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and we heard
one "Urgent, surgical,"
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and you heard two,
you heard three,
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and you heard four.
- That's a shame.
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- And I'm like--
[sighs]
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- They were four Americans
sailing around the world.
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It was the dream
of their lives,
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but it came
to a deadly end today--
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killed by the Somali pirates,
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who seized their yacht
last Friday,
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south of Oman.
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- I mean, did they just panic?
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Do you think, like,
the pirates just panicked?
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'Cause what were they
gonna benefit then
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from killing them, right?
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They're not getting any money.
- Yeah, I don't wanna get--
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th--th--there was, I think,
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two that did the shooting,
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and they actually
shot their own people.
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Like, they had two pirates
and killed four Americans
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and two of their own.
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Like, how does that
even make sense?
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What it was
was the pirates thought,
252
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"Well, all these ships here
want the Americans.
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"So if we get rid
of the Americans,
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they'll go away."
255
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But here I am in the middle
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of the freakin' Indian Ocean,
257
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now with the sailboat,
two FBI guys on it,
258
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and a crime scene.
259
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- A crime scene
with four dead Americans
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that has to be processed
and protected.
261
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- So the Navy brings us
over on a RHIB.
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[dramatic music]
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♪ ♪
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And we board this thing.
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It was horrific.
266
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So here we are
in this sailboat.
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Now, we're trying to process
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the dead bodies' photograph,
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because a couple of 'em are
actually laying on weapons
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that we wanted to capture,
271
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and we gotta
get 'em in body bags
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and over to the other boat.
273
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"If something is about
to fall off that sailboat,
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"take a picture of it,
and then move it
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"to where it's safe, but leave
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everything you can in place."
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So we--we process it,
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and it's just one of those--
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it is a wreck.
We have the pirates in custody
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up on the aircraft carrier,
281
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and I'm like, "We need
to tow this back to Djibouti.
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This is the crime scene.
I wanna take it with me."
283
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- Yeah, you can't just
let it float off to sea.
284
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- 'Cause I got 15 guys
that I know that are gonna
285
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probably go to trial over this.
286
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- You can't make this shit up.
- No.
287
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- [laughs]
- And two days ago,
288
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I was trying
to get pizza with my son.
289
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We're coming
into the port of Djibouti.
290
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They're sending a team
of investigators from New York.
291
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Kevin Coughlin's
the case agent,
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and, uh, he's bringing
a team out
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to go to that aircraft carrier.
294
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They're getting
all the statements.
295
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Kevin's team's
doing the interviews and stuff.
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They have to process
15 pirates
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that are gonna go back
to the States, so...
298
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- It's like a big takedown,
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but it just happened overseas,
300
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and you gotta bring
all those subjects back
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and process them
here in the U.S.
302
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and end it all.
- Yep.
303
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All sudden, now, I--I get this
in the classified radio room
304
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that there's a guy
looking for me
305
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that has some info for me.
306
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We got the phone number
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from the pirates
for who to negotiate with.
308
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This guy, Rich, he's with
the special mission unit,
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working with some partners,
310
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and those partners go
and basically
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knock on a hotel room door
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in Galkayo, Somalia,
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and this guy answers,
314
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and his name was
Mohammad Shibin.
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These military folks
that we're working with
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are counterterrorism forces.
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So they basically accuse him
of being Al-Shabaab.
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- Al-Shabaab is
an Islamist militant group
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that's fighting
the UN government in Somalia.
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For a long time, it controlled
Southern Somalia,
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including the capital,
Mogadishu.
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- And then, he goes,
"I'm not Al-Shabaab."
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He goes--and he knows--he goes,
324
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"Look, here's my phone,"
325
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and it proves
I'm not Al-Shabaab.
326
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- Hands over the phone
like that?
327
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- He just hands it over.
328
00:12:40,890 --> 00:12:42,979
Rich is, like,
looking at this phone now.
329
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He doesn't have
no techno equipment to do,
330
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like, a real download of it,
331
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and he starts seeing, like,
332
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Google searches
about The Quest.
333
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They start seeing,
"How much is The Quest worth?"
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Like, he starts real--like, uh,
335
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"This is, like, evidence."
336
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So he literally takes,
337
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I think it was, 350 pictures
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of every screenshot,
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every contact.
340
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The pirates have a negotiator
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that's on land
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that basically,
they work out the ransom
343
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for the yacht
and the hostages--
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who, we find out,
Mr. Shibin is this negotiator.
345
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- He's the mastermind.
346
00:13:14,445 --> 00:13:16,360
- Like, they gave him
his phone back.
347
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He didn't keep the phone.
- They were like--
348
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they went back to him and said,
349
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"Okay, yeah,
you're not Al-Shabaab,"
350
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and--and whatever.
351
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So Rich, he's got this CD
352
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of, like, 350 pictures
353
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of everything that was
on this guy's phone.
354
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I'm like, "Holy shit."
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Like, this, like,
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this is evidence.
- "We got a case."
357
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- Of this guy, like--
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- Really being involved.
- Really being involved.
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But we can't just grab him.
360
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For evidence and what
we looked at the trial,
361
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every single thing had to be
by the letter of the law.
362
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The assistant U.S. attorneys
in Norfolk,
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they want me
to testify in court
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that that phone
was on that person,
365
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and we need that phone
for evidence.
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I'm like, "There's no way
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"we're gonna be able
to get out of a car in Somalia
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and go do a search
of a hotel room."
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So I said, "Okay, hey, look.
370
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"If the Somalis go up
to this hotel room,
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"and they've walked
Mr. Shibin out,
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"and take his phone
out of his pocket
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"and they walk directly to me,
374
00:14:08,630 --> 00:14:11,067
"and hand me that phone
through the window,
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"is that good enough for me
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"to testify that that phone
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came from Mr. Shibin?"
- Yeah, exactly.
378
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It's chain of custody,
and yeah.
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- So they thought about it,
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and they're like,
"Yeah, we can do that."
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- So I mean, I get what you
guys did and everything,
382
00:14:23,471 --> 00:14:27,257
but you know, most people won't
even know why you're following,
383
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you know,
the letter of the law, right?
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- Even the military folks,
they just didn't understand
385
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the other--like,
getting there and getting back
386
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and all that crazy stuff--
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we broke all kinds of, like,
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precedents of how to do it.
- Sure.
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- But the law and the court--
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00:14:40,227 --> 00:14:43,186
because when you testify,
you gotta tell a juror
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that this phone was
with this person at this time.
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[rock music]
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So they approved this plan
for us to fly into Somalia
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drive down to Galkayo,
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and then do this.
396
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Four Americans are dead.
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We've gone
from the piracy at sea
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to investigation of the guy
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00:15:01,596 --> 00:15:02,771
arranging the ransom
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to a mission to arrest him.
401
00:15:04,425 --> 00:15:06,296
We thought,
"Hey, this is gonna be--"
402
00:15:06,383 --> 00:15:09,212
- Quick and done.
- Quick and done and go home,
403
00:15:09,299 --> 00:15:10,561
and then all sudden,
they come in,
404
00:15:10,648 --> 00:15:12,128
and they're like,
405
00:15:12,215 --> 00:15:14,261
"We think he's in Zambia."
406
00:15:14,348 --> 00:15:15,610
Like, what?
407
00:15:15,697 --> 00:15:18,004
♪ ♪
408
00:15:18,091 --> 00:15:19,483
I'm like,
"I gotta look at the map,
409
00:15:19,570 --> 00:15:20,789
figure out where Zambia is,
you know?"
410
00:15:20,876 --> 00:15:22,356
- Yeah.
- So, like--and we gotta
411
00:15:22,443 --> 00:15:23,923
get there.
- Why'd he go there?
412
00:15:24,010 --> 00:15:25,533
- Well, there's
a big Somali population.
413
00:15:25,620 --> 00:15:29,493
We think, because of The Quest
made the news,
414
00:15:29,580 --> 00:15:31,321
and it was getting, like--
- He wanted to get out
415
00:15:31,408 --> 00:15:32,888
of there.
- He knew the heat was on.
416
00:15:32,975 --> 00:15:34,150
We get on a commercial flight
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00:15:34,237 --> 00:15:36,500
over to Zambia,
set up a meeting
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00:15:36,587 --> 00:15:38,067
with the
Zambian intelligence service
419
00:15:38,154 --> 00:15:40,069
who, kind of, like,
knows where this guy's at.
420
00:15:40,156 --> 00:15:41,941
There was two areas in Zambia
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00:15:42,028 --> 00:15:43,768
where
the Somali's population were.
422
00:15:43,855 --> 00:15:45,509
They finally zeroed in.
423
00:15:45,596 --> 00:15:47,685
So right in the middle
of that meeting, though,
424
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we basically get word
that he's left Zambia.
425
00:15:51,820 --> 00:15:55,171
[dramatic beat]
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00:15:55,258 --> 00:15:56,129
We don't know
exactly where he went,
427
00:15:56,216 --> 00:15:57,565
but we know he's not here.
428
00:15:57,652 --> 00:15:59,393
The plane that we flew in on,
429
00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,961
we found out later,
he was on the flight
430
00:16:02,048 --> 00:16:03,136
going out.
- So you went all the way
431
00:16:03,223 --> 00:16:04,572
out of your way--
- Yeah.
432
00:16:04,659 --> 00:16:06,008
- You're chasing this guy
around Africa.
433
00:16:06,095 --> 00:16:07,053
- Oh, this is
"Catch Me If You Can"
434
00:16:07,140 --> 00:16:07,705
across Africa.
- Africa.
435
00:16:07,792 --> 00:16:09,969
[dramatic music]
436
00:16:10,056 --> 00:16:12,972
- So we get to the airport.
We jump on the plane.
437
00:16:13,059 --> 00:16:15,626
We fly back to Djibouti.
438
00:16:15,713 --> 00:16:18,716
That's the hub of all
U.S. government operations
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00:16:18,803 --> 00:16:20,414
in Northeast Africa.
440
00:16:20,501 --> 00:16:21,981
Now, a bunch of people
in D.C. are like,
441
00:16:22,068 --> 00:16:23,069
"Hey, you guys
need to come home"--
442
00:16:23,156 --> 00:16:24,984
both FBI, state department,
443
00:16:25,071 --> 00:16:26,159
and we're like, "No.
There's no way
444
00:16:26,246 --> 00:16:27,203
"we're chasing this guy around
445
00:16:27,290 --> 00:16:28,596
and not bringing him back."
446
00:16:28,683 --> 00:16:30,467
I even forget
how many weeks we were gone.
447
00:16:30,554 --> 00:16:33,209
At this point,
it was just kind of a blur.
448
00:16:33,296 --> 00:16:36,691
By now, we got feelers out
all over Africa
449
00:16:36,778 --> 00:16:39,389
looking for this guy.
And at one point, like,
450
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I get this call,
like the "Urgent."
451
00:16:41,739 --> 00:16:44,568
I go down, and it's one
of the Special Forces guys
452
00:16:44,655 --> 00:16:46,483
in Boosaaso, Somalia.
453
00:16:46,570 --> 00:16:49,008
He drives by and looks
at this corner tea shop
454
00:16:49,095 --> 00:16:51,140
and says, "Isn't that our guy?"
455
00:16:51,227 --> 00:16:53,012
- [laughs]
- So they radio back
456
00:16:53,099 --> 00:16:54,491
to the Somalis
in the follow vehicle.
457
00:16:54,578 --> 00:16:56,450
- That's awesome.
- Like, "Hey, is that Shib?"
458
00:16:56,537 --> 00:16:57,929
- And they're like,
"Yeah, that's him."
459
00:17:00,758 --> 00:17:02,543
So they literally
went around the corner,
460
00:17:02,630 --> 00:17:04,196
pulled over,
461
00:17:04,284 --> 00:17:06,373
and radioed back to the--
to the, you know,
462
00:17:06,460 --> 00:17:08,636
the JOC and said,
"Hey, we found him.
463
00:17:08,723 --> 00:17:10,159
What do you want us to do?"
- So you guys just jumped up--
464
00:17:10,246 --> 00:17:11,551
- Well, I just made
the decision.
465
00:17:11,638 --> 00:17:13,380
I'm like, "You know what?
466
00:17:13,467 --> 00:17:15,469
"Go get him.
Like, just grab him now.
467
00:17:15,556 --> 00:17:17,645
"We lost him for, like,
God knows how long.
468
00:17:17,732 --> 00:17:19,167
"I don't know
if we're gonna get him.
469
00:17:19,255 --> 00:17:20,691
Just grab him.
We'll figure it out later."
470
00:17:20,778 --> 00:17:27,523
♪ ♪
471
00:17:27,611 --> 00:17:29,091
So we get brought in.
472
00:17:31,702 --> 00:17:32,660
We're driving
through these streets,
473
00:17:32,747 --> 00:17:34,749
just hustling people
out of the way.
474
00:17:34,836 --> 00:17:37,926
♪ ♪
475
00:17:38,013 --> 00:17:39,971
And we get to the compound,
476
00:17:40,059 --> 00:17:41,712
and there's Mr. Shib,
477
00:17:41,799 --> 00:17:44,280
and I'm like, "Finally."
478
00:17:44,367 --> 00:17:46,239
He's sitting
on a bunch of ammo,
479
00:17:46,326 --> 00:17:48,676
chewing khat,
and he's high as a kite,
480
00:17:48,763 --> 00:17:50,504
so we're like--obviously,
we can't interview him.
481
00:17:50,591 --> 00:17:53,333
So in the morning,
we find out we only have
482
00:17:53,420 --> 00:17:54,464
so many hour--
we're gonna turn him over
483
00:17:54,551 --> 00:17:56,423
to Boosaaso PD,
484
00:17:56,510 --> 00:17:58,207
and they're gonna bring him
to an airfield,
485
00:17:58,294 --> 00:17:59,208
and we're gonna fly him out.
486
00:17:59,295 --> 00:18:00,862
We read him his rights.
487
00:18:00,949 --> 00:18:02,037
We had him in Somali.
488
00:18:02,124 --> 00:18:04,126
He goes,
"My English is perfect,"
489
00:18:04,213 --> 00:18:05,867
and he signed Waiver of Rights,
490
00:18:05,954 --> 00:18:07,477
um, in English,
491
00:18:07,564 --> 00:18:09,044
and he--he actually
spoke very well.
492
00:18:09,131 --> 00:18:10,872
So after all that,
493
00:18:10,959 --> 00:18:12,917
four murdered Americans,
494
00:18:13,004 --> 00:18:14,223
SEAL team assault,
495
00:18:14,310 --> 00:18:16,051
chase this guy
all over Africa,
496
00:18:16,138 --> 00:18:17,531
we pick him up in a tea shop,
497
00:18:17,618 --> 00:18:20,055
and he agrees
to be interviewed.
498
00:18:20,142 --> 00:18:22,231
We want the phone
to connect him to the crime
499
00:18:22,318 --> 00:18:23,711
and make the case,
but it turns out
500
00:18:23,798 --> 00:18:25,278
the phone was not on him.
501
00:18:25,365 --> 00:18:28,107
- Okay.
- Now, before we left Somalia,
502
00:18:28,194 --> 00:18:29,064
we did a photo lineup.
503
00:18:29,151 --> 00:18:31,022
His phone, we had pictures
504
00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:32,720
of it from--from Rich,
505
00:18:32,807 --> 00:18:35,505
and then we took
all the incriminating messages
506
00:18:35,592 --> 00:18:37,551
he had sent
or searches on Google.
507
00:18:37,638 --> 00:18:40,597
We had him
contacting his bosses
508
00:18:40,684 --> 00:18:42,817
and doing searches
on Americans for ransom.
509
00:18:44,862 --> 00:18:46,690
So we had those with us.
510
00:18:46,777 --> 00:18:49,476
We knew that we had
to get that into evidence.
511
00:18:49,563 --> 00:18:51,304
- Sure.
- That he did those searches,
512
00:18:51,391 --> 00:18:53,175
and that was his phone.
We basically say,
513
00:18:53,262 --> 00:18:54,742
"Hey, Mr. Shibin,
is this your phone?"
514
00:18:54,829 --> 00:18:57,266
He says, "Yes."
We say, "If that's your phone,
515
00:18:57,353 --> 00:18:58,920
go ahead and sign
those papers saying it is,"
516
00:18:59,007 --> 00:19:00,313
and he does, and then we said,
517
00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,619
"With that phone,
did you do these searches?"
518
00:19:02,706 --> 00:19:05,100
And he signs all those
documents saying, "I did that."
519
00:19:05,187 --> 00:19:07,058
So--
- So you mean to tell me
520
00:19:07,146 --> 00:19:08,843
had he never
handed his phone over
521
00:19:08,930 --> 00:19:10,366
in Galkayo,
522
00:19:10,453 --> 00:19:12,020
he never would've
been arrested?
523
00:19:12,107 --> 00:19:13,413
- No.
- I mean, that's crazy.
524
00:19:13,500 --> 00:19:15,502
How stupid!
- Well, I mean--well, I mean,
525
00:19:15,589 --> 00:19:17,373
as you know,
criminals do some dumb things.
526
00:19:17,460 --> 00:19:18,766
- Yeah.
- He just didn't--
527
00:19:18,853 --> 00:19:19,419
- He was clueless.
528
00:19:21,508 --> 00:19:23,945
- And then word
in the town got out
529
00:19:24,032 --> 00:19:27,035
that we had taken Mr. Shibin.
530
00:19:27,122 --> 00:19:28,384
So there's starting to be
531
00:19:28,471 --> 00:19:30,343
some noise
outside the compound.
532
00:19:30,430 --> 00:19:32,040
- Right.
- So the whole handoff
533
00:19:32,127 --> 00:19:34,390
now started going
out the window.
534
00:19:34,477 --> 00:19:36,697
- Yeah, like,
you gotta get him out.
535
00:19:36,784 --> 00:19:38,829
- We go out at midnight,
blackened out airfield.
536
00:19:38,916 --> 00:19:40,309
It's a dirt trip.
537
00:19:40,396 --> 00:19:43,573
There's a plane
all blacked out sitting there,
538
00:19:43,660 --> 00:19:45,488
and they start
bringing Mr. Shibin out.
539
00:19:45,575 --> 00:19:47,403
We're like, "Holy cow."
He shows up.
540
00:19:47,490 --> 00:19:49,710
They had a hood on him,
and we take the hood off,
541
00:19:49,797 --> 00:19:51,233
and he sees me,
542
00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:52,452
and I said, "Mr. Shibin,
you're under arrest
543
00:19:52,539 --> 00:19:54,105
for murder of four Americans,
544
00:19:54,193 --> 00:19:56,107
and he looks at me,
545
00:19:56,195 --> 00:19:58,849
and he says,
"Are you gonna kill me?"
546
00:19:58,936 --> 00:20:00,068
I said, "No, Mr. Shibin,
547
00:20:00,155 --> 00:20:01,374
"I'm gonna take you
back to the U.S.,
548
00:20:01,461 --> 00:20:03,506
"and you're gonna stand trial
549
00:20:03,593 --> 00:20:04,899
for the murder
of those Americans,"
550
00:20:04,986 --> 00:20:07,206
and he kind of looked at me,
I think, thinking, like,
551
00:20:07,293 --> 00:20:08,772
in his country
or somewhere else,
552
00:20:08,859 --> 00:20:09,425
they would just put
a bullet in his head,
553
00:20:09,512 --> 00:20:10,687
I get on the plane and leave.
554
00:20:10,774 --> 00:20:12,515
- Yeah.
- But that's not what we do.
555
00:20:14,343 --> 00:20:16,171
- So you got
Shibin in custody.
556
00:20:16,258 --> 00:20:17,390
He gets into the U.S.
557
00:20:17,477 --> 00:20:18,739
- Yeah.
- The case agents
558
00:20:18,826 --> 00:20:21,437
then take it from there.
They go to trial.
559
00:20:21,524 --> 00:20:22,612
- Yeah.
- They follow all the process
560
00:20:22,699 --> 00:20:23,657
with the U.S. Attorney's
office,
561
00:20:23,744 --> 00:20:25,224
and I mean, to me,
562
00:20:25,311 --> 00:20:26,660
this is, like, a precedent.
563
00:20:26,747 --> 00:20:27,878
Like, this is a precedent
564
00:20:27,965 --> 00:20:30,272
for, you know, a piracy case
565
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,579
where the po--it was on land.
566
00:20:32,666 --> 00:20:34,058
Like, he wasn't even on sea,
right?
567
00:20:34,145 --> 00:20:35,321
He was captured on land.
568
00:20:35,408 --> 00:20:36,844
- Yeah,
so when they charged him,
569
00:20:36,931 --> 00:20:38,715
they charged him
with piracy on the high seas,
570
00:20:38,802 --> 00:20:41,283
and the big thing
was they had to prove
571
00:20:41,370 --> 00:20:43,416
that he knew
the pirates were going out
572
00:20:43,503 --> 00:20:45,679
to pirate a ship
before they left,
573
00:20:45,766 --> 00:20:47,811
and the interviews
with Mr. Shibin,
574
00:20:47,898 --> 00:20:48,812
we got that out of him.
575
00:20:48,899 --> 00:20:56,037
♪ ♪
576
00:20:57,821 --> 00:20:59,301
So when I testified,
577
00:20:59,388 --> 00:21:01,564
the family of the victims
578
00:21:01,651 --> 00:21:03,610
never knew the story
of what we went through
579
00:21:03,697 --> 00:21:05,438
to get him.
It never really got out there,
580
00:21:05,525 --> 00:21:07,701
and after I testified,
I get off the stand,
581
00:21:07,788 --> 00:21:09,268
the daughter comes up to me,
and she's like,
582
00:21:09,355 --> 00:21:11,879
"Oh, my God, I never knew,"
583
00:21:11,966 --> 00:21:14,795
and I'm like, "Yeah,
it was really a crazy thing,"
584
00:21:14,882 --> 00:21:16,231
and she goes,
585
00:21:16,318 --> 00:21:18,929
"I would love
to thank the SEALs,"
586
00:21:19,016 --> 00:21:20,235
and I'm say--I looked at her.
587
00:21:20,322 --> 00:21:21,845
I said, "I'm sorry, you can't."
588
00:21:21,932 --> 00:21:23,282
She goes, "I understand
the secrecy thing."
589
00:21:23,369 --> 00:21:24,587
I said, "No, actually,
590
00:21:24,674 --> 00:21:28,548
"unfortunately,
six months after that op,
591
00:21:28,635 --> 00:21:33,422
"that SEAL troop
that did the boarding,
592
00:21:33,509 --> 00:21:35,946
they all died in Afghanistan."
593
00:21:36,033 --> 00:21:38,862
- Afghan officials say
a NATO Chinook helicopter
594
00:21:38,949 --> 00:21:41,604
crashed during
anti-Taliban mission
595
00:21:41,691 --> 00:21:44,128
overnight in a region
west of Kabul.
596
00:21:44,215 --> 00:21:47,958
- The majority of those
killed in this incident
597
00:21:48,045 --> 00:21:51,179
are believed to be
U.S. Navy SEALs.
598
00:21:51,266 --> 00:21:52,876
This may, in fact, become,
599
00:21:52,963 --> 00:21:55,314
sadly, a historic loss
600
00:21:55,401 --> 00:21:57,925
for U.S. Navy SEALs...
601
00:21:58,012 --> 00:21:59,405
- How do you feel,
602
00:21:59,492 --> 00:22:01,711
um, now, you know,
being retired and--
603
00:22:01,798 --> 00:22:02,973
about this case?
604
00:22:03,060 --> 00:22:05,541
- Looking back on it,
it--it--loo--
605
00:22:05,628 --> 00:22:07,674
one, it was
the unbelievable team effort
606
00:22:07,761 --> 00:22:11,330
to bring this guy
to justice in the right way--
607
00:22:11,417 --> 00:22:12,766
- Yeah.
- Preserving all his rights.
608
00:22:12,853 --> 00:22:14,463
Truly,
that's what I'm most proud of--
609
00:22:14,550 --> 00:22:16,726
to bring this one person back
610
00:22:16,813 --> 00:22:18,946
and then to have him sit
in a court of law
611
00:22:19,033 --> 00:22:19,990
just like anyone else
612
00:22:20,077 --> 00:22:21,252
and get convicted by a jury.
613
00:22:21,340 --> 00:22:28,477
♪ ♪
614
00:22:33,482 --> 00:22:35,615
- So on a personal level,
615
00:22:35,702 --> 00:22:37,704
you were sitting there,
having pizza with your son,
616
00:22:37,791 --> 00:22:39,836
and you get called,
and then you're gone.
617
00:22:39,923 --> 00:22:41,098
So how did that impact
618
00:22:41,185 --> 00:22:43,362
your family and you--
- Well, this one,
619
00:22:43,449 --> 00:22:44,624
I actually got a medal for.
620
00:22:44,711 --> 00:22:46,365
I got the
Meritorious Achievement Medal,
621
00:22:46,452 --> 00:22:47,888
and at first,
I was embarrassed.
622
00:22:47,975 --> 00:22:49,411
I'm like, "I don't want it,"
and I forget
623
00:22:49,498 --> 00:22:51,065
who in the Bureau told me--
he said, "Hey, the medal's
624
00:22:51,152 --> 00:22:52,371
not for you.
It's for your family.
625
00:22:52,458 --> 00:22:54,024
So when my family
went up to D.C.,
626
00:22:54,111 --> 00:22:55,678
to get the medal,
627
00:22:55,765 --> 00:22:58,855
it, to them,
I think, explained,
628
00:22:58,942 --> 00:23:00,161
like, what I was doing
629
00:23:00,248 --> 00:23:01,423
and how it was worth it
630
00:23:01,510 --> 00:23:02,424
and why Dad was gone so much.
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