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Welcome back to Unchin Life.
I am here with my friend,
owner, entrepreneur, teacher, DJ.
How are you, brother?
Great.
I'm glad you're here.
Sounds good.
So the idea at a certain point,
not sure I wanted to be a
teacher for my whole life.
Okay.
And have really these,
the passion for
collecting records and for DJing.
And I was DJing in clubs and lounges
and collecting records and slowly
getting more and more
records because it's an obsession.
And then in my mid 20s,
I got into craft beer.
Surprised that I got
into craft beer in Hong Kong
at both places.
And that's a whole long story.
Okay.
But when I got so
enthusiastic with both things,
DJing, collecting
records and craft beer,
I wanted to figure out a way to marry
those two passions of mine.
And I told friends, like, listen,
I want to build a place
that has these two things
side by side, craft
beer, vinyl records.
Told a friend and he said,
"That sounds like a place in
Japan that exists already."
I said, "What?"
So,
So you got no idea.
No idea that these places existed,
that you go to a bar or a
cafe and they play vinyl records
and they have a
collection behind the bar.
So we actually went
to Japan to pay homage
to the influences of beer racks.
And we met the gentleman Kobayashi-san,
who's in many ways a mentor that we met
and gave us his
blessing, which was incredible.
That's beautiful.
Yeah.
And how was that experience when he
gave us his blessing?
I mean, it was like a dream come true.
He tends to be kind of a curmudgeon.
He's an older gentleman at this point,
probably in the 70s.
Okay.
And we went there three
times and he warmed up to us
and we showed him pictures of the bar.
And he's a big hip hop head.
So we showed him
pictures of hip hop celebrities
that have been here and
his eyes just brightened up.
And at that point I kind of say,
"Oh yeah, now we're, we
have an in now with this guy."
So talk to me about
some of the hip hop people
that have shown up here.
So, I mean, that is another blessing
and it's more of those pinch ourselves
when we have people like Lars Professor
that was the person who
essentially discovered Nas.
We've had EZ Mobi DJ here
who made many of the beats
on Notorious B.I.G's album.
Wow.
Beat nuts, Paul Ju Ju, Psycho Less.
We've had, I mean,
it's a crazy list of folks
that are incredible DJs that
are really pioneering folks.
Like Ryan Wizard Theodore,
he was the inventor of the scratch.
I was fun here several times.
So it's been such a blessing.
So two days, I want to
go into the conversation.
What is, what makes a great DJ to you?
Yeah.
So a great DJ to me is
someone that takes the listener
on a journey, right?
That's very intentional about the
records they choose.
And it's not just
playing a one-off record
and then a run-off
record, another record,
another record, another record.
There is a transition that makes sense.
The songs are mixed or they're,
it's pretty
technically skilled at cutting,
but they're cut,
they're just like scratching.
And they can scratch into a mix.
But everything just seems
so seamless and flawless.
To me, those are the pinnacle of DJs.
So it's putting your
soul into it, right?
And having the technical expertise to
execute those mixes
and that journey that
you're taking the listener on.
I see here everywhere, it's Wu-Tang.
(laughing)
Talk to me about Wu-Tang.
I mean, Wu-Tang, I mean
Wu-Tang is just such a
entity within hip hop, right?
So I was kind of
like, my heyday in hip hop
was the early nineties.
Yeah.
So to have experienced like
that golden era of hip hop
and to have seen Wu-Tang
come along and do something
that no one has ever really done,
of having so many incredible MCs,
and they're part of one super group,
and they all split off
and do classic albums
in their own right.
So, and this-
Is like a legal superhero.
It's a legal, seriously.
I mean, that's the
perfect way to capture it.
And this, that was done by Kel,
by my major and an amazing
artist and friend of mine
from Staten Island.
This has been a kind of a show feast.
People walk by and they're
like, wait, what is this?
So talk to me about the experience.
I used to like the beer.
So the beer is stuck
with intentionality.
We try to focus on local
producers of craft beer.
So independently owned beer,
independently owned breweries,
try to keep it as local as possible.
Cause we have so many great producers
right here in New York state, right
here in New York city.
So that's what we
want to focus on local.
There's the closest
brewery that we have
that we serve their beer
is right around the block.
No way.
Form one.
They literally just opened up a couple,
about six, seven months
ago, making their own beer.
So the fact that we can source beer
that's on the same
block as us or in Gowanus
is just incredible in terms of like
kind of formed a table.
We're talking about, you
know, from the tank to the bar
within a mile.
So we love that in
terms of like reducing
the carbon footprint
because you're getting
and sourcing so close
to where it's being made.
Beautiful.
It's almost like you
have that agenda helping.
It's almost like when
you were back in school
helping the kids, right?
You're helping other businesses.
You are allowing artists to come and
display their work.
DJs to come and spend.
So both the artists,
the DJs are in the artist
in their own right.
And then the magic of
the liquid, you know,
of all these people that are
artists in their own right.
Very passionate about creating liquid,
creating craft beer
that is true to the style,
but also very unique.
So.
Well, you have to come
to this magical place.
Praise me, El Mano.
El Mano.
Love you brother.
Love you too, bro.
Thank you.
And we'll walk around.
We'll show you around.
Oon Ching, go like that.
Oon Ching.
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