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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,299 --> 00:00:02,667 Remembered as just a 2 00:00:02,869 --> 00:00:05,871 Basketball player. Kobe premieres January 25th 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,809 On cnn. 4 00:00:42,975 --> 00:00:44,543 And I'm running. And now we want to do I want 5 00:00:44,545 --> 00:00:49,247 and now we want to do I want to do my favorite ballad and 6 00:00:49,249 --> 00:00:51,016 To do my favorite ballad and beautiful love song on the new 7 00:00:51,018 --> 00:00:53,585 Beautiful love song on the new album. It goes like 8 00:00:53,787 --> 00:00:56,622 This one, two, three. 9 00:00:57,190 --> 00:01:03,190 Hey hey, we have to have a party right away. Right 10 00:01:05,732 --> 00:01:09,668 Up top. Hey, come on 11 00:01:11,905 --> 00:01:12,905 Hey, go! Stop at a 12 00:01:13,473 --> 00:01:19,473 Stop. Yeah, we're on the move. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Ain't no 13 00:01:22,316 --> 00:01:24,917 Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Ain't no stopping us now. We got 14 00:01:26,086 --> 00:01:29,521 The groove. Oh, there have been so many 15 00:01:29,523 --> 00:01:32,290 oh, there have been so many things that have held us down. 16 00:01:32,292 --> 00:01:33,659 Things that have held us down. But now it looks like things 17 00:01:33,661 --> 00:01:36,328 but now it looks like things are finally coming around. 18 00:01:36,330 --> 00:01:37,429 Are finally coming around. Yeah, I know we've got a 19 00:01:37,431 --> 00:01:41,967 yeah, I know we've got a long, long way to go. And where 20 00:01:41,969 --> 00:01:42,434 Long, long way to go. And where we'll end up. 21 00:01:42,436 --> 00:01:47,139 We'll end up. I don't know, but we won't 22 00:01:47,141 --> 00:01:49,341 I don't know, but we won't let nothing hold us back. We're 23 00:01:49,343 --> 00:01:51,076 Let nothing hold us back. We're gonna get ourselves together. 24 00:01:51,078 --> 00:01:53,245 Gonna get ourselves together. We're gonna polish up our 25 00:01:53,247 --> 00:01:56,081 we're gonna polish up our act. Yeah. And if you've ever 26 00:01:56,083 --> 00:01:58,150 Act. Yeah. And if you've ever been held down before, I know 27 00:01:58,152 --> 00:02:00,185 Been held down before, I know that you refuse to be held down 28 00:02:00,187 --> 00:02:00,652 That you refuse to be held down anymore. 29 00:02:00,654 --> 00:02:02,821 Anymore. Yeah, 30 00:02:03,055 --> 00:02:05,858 Yeah. Don't you let nothing, 31 00:02:06,092 --> 00:02:11,863 Nothing, nothing stand in your way. And all 32 00:02:13,166 --> 00:02:19,166 Your. To every word I say. Every word I say about it 33 00:02:19,874 --> 00:02:21,673 Every word I say about it ain't no stopping us now. 34 00:02:21,675 --> 00:02:23,808 Ain't no stopping us now. That's right. We're on the 35 00:02:23,810 --> 00:02:26,478 That's right. We're on the move. You said it. We've got 36 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,181 Move. You said it. We've got the groove. Ain't no stopping 37 00:02:29,183 --> 00:02:31,816 The groove. Ain't no stopping us now. We've 38 00:02:35,221 --> 00:02:38,423 Got the groove. Who ain't no stopping us 39 00:02:38,691 --> 00:02:41,560 Now. We're on the move. 40 00:02:42,262 --> 00:02:47,032 On the move, yeah. Yeah yeah. No stopping us now. We've got 41 00:02:47,034 --> 00:02:51,904 No stopping us now. We've got the groove from the bronx, new 42 00:02:52,138 --> 00:02:55,174 York. Mr. Luther vandross. 43 00:03:25,905 --> 00:03:29,474 Were you very poor as a child? Mhm. 44 00:03:29,476 --> 00:03:30,408 Child? Mhm. You know, the funniest thing 45 00:03:30,410 --> 00:03:31,910 you know, the funniest thing is if if there's enough love 46 00:03:31,912 --> 00:03:32,777 Is if if there's enough love in your house and in your home 47 00:03:32,779 --> 00:03:36,381 In your house and in your home and in your life. Poor, rich, 48 00:03:36,383 --> 00:03:38,283 And in your life. Poor, rich, none of that stuff registers. 49 00:03:38,285 --> 00:03:40,786 None of that stuff registers. We were we were well fed, well 50 00:03:40,788 --> 00:03:42,754 We were we were well fed, well cared for. We had toys at 51 00:03:42,756 --> 00:03:43,555 Cared for. We had toys at christmas and I don't know if 52 00:03:43,557 --> 00:03:44,322 Christmas and I don't know if we were poor or not. I'll have 53 00:03:44,324 --> 00:03:47,025 We were poor or not. I'll have to ask my mother, but it's 54 00:03:47,027 --> 00:03:47,793 To ask my mother, but it's certainly my impression of 55 00:03:47,795 --> 00:03:48,560 Certainly my impression of growing up was that life was 56 00:03:48,562 --> 00:03:51,063 Growing up was that life was great 57 00:03:56,302 --> 00:04:01,807 This is very personal. This is luther talking about what he 58 00:04:01,809 --> 00:04:03,975 Luther talking about what he experienced as a child and as a 59 00:04:03,977 --> 00:04:05,777 Experienced as a child and as a teenager, aware of of a 60 00:04:05,779 --> 00:04:07,679 Teenager, aware of of a potential career in music. You 61 00:04:07,681 --> 00:04:10,115 Potential career in music. You know, I was a motown child, the 62 00:04:10,117 --> 00:04:11,349 Know, I was a motown child, the supremes and temptations on ed 63 00:04:11,351 --> 00:04:12,985 Supremes and temptations on ed sullivan was a big deal around 64 00:04:12,987 --> 00:04:14,119 Sullivan was a big deal around my neighborhood, you know? 65 00:04:14,121 --> 00:04:16,121 My neighborhood, you know? So let's have a fine 66 00:04:16,123 --> 00:04:18,624 so let's have a fine welcome for the case keenum 67 00:04:21,828 --> 00:04:27,828 I need love love, love. Hey, my man, I need to find 68 00:04:29,236 --> 00:04:30,969 hey, my man, I need to find find someone to call mine. But 69 00:04:30,971 --> 00:04:33,605 Find someone to call mine. But mama said you can't hurry, 70 00:04:33,607 --> 00:04:35,473 Mama said you can't hurry, love. No, you just have to wait 71 00:04:35,475 --> 00:04:35,974 Love. No, you just have to wait and see. 72 00:04:35,976 --> 00:04:36,675 And see. I used to love. I used to 73 00:04:36,677 --> 00:04:37,842 I used to love. I used to draw pictures of the supremes 74 00:04:37,844 --> 00:04:39,711 Draw pictures of the supremes in math class. You know, when I 75 00:04:39,713 --> 00:04:40,979 In math class. You know, when I was a kid. Because I used to 76 00:04:40,981 --> 00:04:42,080 Was a kid. Because I used to just love the way my mother 77 00:04:42,082 --> 00:04:43,715 Just love the way my mother would punish me for doing 78 00:04:43,717 --> 00:04:45,550 Would punish me for doing something wrong or get to me is 79 00:04:45,552 --> 00:04:47,786 Something wrong or get to me is not allowing me to see the 80 00:04:47,788 --> 00:04:48,620 Not allowing me to see the supremes on ed sullivan on on a 81 00:04:48,622 --> 00:04:49,621 Supremes on ed sullivan on on a Sunday night, you know, and it 82 00:04:49,623 --> 00:04:51,389 Sunday night, you know, and it worked. You know, I washed the 83 00:04:51,391 --> 00:04:53,525 Worked. You know, I washed the dishes, took the garbage out, 84 00:04:53,527 --> 00:04:54,626 Dishes, took the garbage out, did the homework, did 85 00:04:54,628 --> 00:04:55,227 Did the homework, did everything. So you. 86 00:04:55,229 --> 00:04:56,862 Everything. So you. I feel my skin. I yeah, 87 00:04:56,864 --> 00:04:58,563 I feel my skin. I yeah, it's almost gone. I remember 88 00:04:58,565 --> 00:05:02,100 It's almost gone. I remember my said I met luther when I was 89 00:05:02,102 --> 00:05:02,634 My said I met luther when I was 15. 90 00:05:02,636 --> 00:05:03,401 15. We'd like so much of the 91 00:05:03,403 --> 00:05:05,537 we'd like so much of the same music. The supremes would 92 00:05:05,539 --> 00:05:07,472 Same music. The supremes would appear on ed sullivan and it 93 00:05:07,474 --> 00:05:09,274 Appear on ed sullivan and it let's say, like maybe at 11:00 94 00:05:09,276 --> 00:05:10,408 Let's say, like maybe at 11:00 at night when everybody in my 95 00:05:10,410 --> 00:05:11,643 At night when everybody in my house was in bed, I'd be 96 00:05:11,645 --> 00:05:12,544 House was in bed, I'd be sitting by the phone and the 97 00:05:12,546 --> 00:05:13,378 Sitting by the phone and the phone would ring and I'd pick 98 00:05:13,380 --> 00:05:14,646 Phone would ring and I'd pick it up really quick. He'd say, 99 00:05:14,648 --> 00:05:17,982 It up really quick. He'd say, did you see florence miss that 100 00:05:17,984 --> 00:05:19,818 Did you see florence miss that step? No, I came down to it in 101 00:05:19,820 --> 00:05:22,187 Step? No, I came down to it in my life alone. 102 00:05:22,189 --> 00:05:24,823 My life alone. Met luther vandross in the 103 00:05:24,825 --> 00:05:25,657 met luther vandross in the 11th grade, and he would say, I 104 00:05:25,659 --> 00:05:30,829 11th grade, and he would say, I think our first date was 105 00:05:30,831 --> 00:05:33,365 Think our first date was friends was come to my house 106 00:05:33,367 --> 00:05:35,067 Friends was come to my house and, you know, I'll make you 107 00:05:35,069 --> 00:05:37,469 And, you know, I'll make you some lunch and we'll listen to 108 00:05:37,471 --> 00:05:39,838 Some lunch and we'll listen to some music. Great. Happy. 109 00:05:39,840 --> 00:05:41,473 Some music. Great. Happy. When she said, love, don't 110 00:05:41,475 --> 00:05:42,006 when she said, love, don't come easy. 111 00:05:42,008 --> 00:05:42,874 Come easy. When I met luther, the first 112 00:05:42,876 --> 00:05:43,908 when I met luther, the first thing I was impressed with. He 113 00:05:43,910 --> 00:05:45,677 Thing I was impressed with. He had composition books stuffed 114 00:05:45,679 --> 00:05:46,678 Had composition books stuffed with papers that he had torn 115 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,713 With papers that he had torn out of another one and stuffed 116 00:05:48,715 --> 00:05:50,782 Out of another one and stuffed inside. 117 00:05:50,784 --> 00:05:53,352 Inside. There, all filled with 118 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,689 His lyrics. Like 119 00:05:58,157 --> 00:06:02,794 The shades of jade was luther's first actual band, 120 00:06:02,796 --> 00:06:05,530 Luther's first actual band, and we had a bass player, 121 00:06:05,532 --> 00:06:08,266 And we had a bass player, myself, on guitar. Fonzi 122 00:06:08,268 --> 00:06:09,334 Myself, on guitar. Fonzi luther, and we had a keyboard 123 00:06:09,336 --> 00:06:09,868 Luther, and we had a keyboard player. 124 00:06:09,870 --> 00:06:10,635 Player. So he said, well, if you're 125 00:06:10,637 --> 00:06:11,435 so he said, well, if you're going to be in the group, you 126 00:06:11,437 --> 00:06:12,537 Going to be in the group, you have to get the uniform. I 127 00:06:12,539 --> 00:06:14,038 Have to get the uniform. I said, what's the uniform? 128 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,908 Said, what's the uniform? Well, you got to have patent 129 00:06:16,910 --> 00:06:18,410 well, you got to have patent leather, green emerald shoes. 130 00:06:18,412 --> 00:06:20,712 Leather, green emerald shoes. If you're in the shades of 131 00:06:20,714 --> 00:06:21,246 If you're in the shades of jade. 132 00:06:21,248 --> 00:06:23,248 Jade. He said, well, the shoes 133 00:06:23,250 --> 00:06:24,883 he said, well, the shoes cost $23. And at that time, 134 00:06:24,885 --> 00:06:26,385 Cost $23. And at that time, back in the 60s, my mother 135 00:06:26,387 --> 00:06:28,086 Back in the 60s, my mother wasn't going to give me no $23 136 00:06:28,088 --> 00:06:29,955 Wasn't going to give me no $23 for no shoes to sing in. No 137 00:06:29,957 --> 00:06:30,488 For no shoes to sing in. No group. 138 00:06:30,490 --> 00:06:31,423 Group. Don't you know this fool 139 00:06:31,425 --> 00:06:32,557 don't you know this fool goes to my mama's house? I'm 140 00:06:32,559 --> 00:06:34,192 Goes to my mama's house? I'm talking about a latin 141 00:06:34,194 --> 00:06:35,026 Talking about a latin household. Puerto rican. Only 142 00:06:35,028 --> 00:06:35,727 Household. Puerto rican. Only my mother did not speak 143 00:06:35,729 --> 00:06:37,929 My mother did not speak english. And then luther 144 00:06:37,931 --> 00:06:40,532 English. And then luther vandross proceeds in his broken 145 00:06:40,534 --> 00:06:43,101 Vandross proceeds in his broken spanish or 146 00:06:43,335 --> 00:06:48,373 Senora alamar es a muy importante a los zapatos. 147 00:06:48,608 --> 00:06:53,144 Uh de carlos. Valverde green. Uh, more important, and by the 148 00:06:53,146 --> 00:06:54,146 Uh, more important, and by the time he finished talking to my 149 00:06:54,148 --> 00:06:55,346 Time he finished talking to my mother, my mother came in the 150 00:06:55,348 --> 00:06:56,948 Mother, my mother came in the room and said, here, take this 151 00:06:56,950 --> 00:06:57,582 Room and said, here, take this $25 and go buy those shoes. 152 00:06:57,584 --> 00:06:58,483 $25 and go buy those shoes. So he was a boss from the 153 00:06:58,485 --> 00:07:00,718 so he was a boss from the beginning. He had he had 154 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:01,953 Beginning. He had he had vision. He had an idea of how 155 00:07:01,955 --> 00:07:03,955 Vision. He had an idea of how he wanted it to go down. And 156 00:07:03,957 --> 00:07:06,491 He wanted it to go down. And that's the way it went 157 00:07:08,828 --> 00:07:10,328 Down. Luther studied every singer 158 00:07:10,330 --> 00:07:14,098 luther studied every singer that he loved to sing. 159 00:07:15,034 --> 00:07:20,238 Guess my soul is my money for me. Oh yes, a little 160 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:21,773 For me. Oh yes, a little respect when you get on. Great. 161 00:07:21,775 --> 00:07:23,775 Respect when you get on. Great. When you heard what he liked 162 00:07:23,777 --> 00:07:25,677 When you heard what he liked about female singers was he 163 00:07:25,679 --> 00:07:28,680 About female singers was he loved the tone. 164 00:07:28,682 --> 00:07:28,780 Loved the tone. 165 00:07:28,981 --> 00:07:31,349 He loved the versatility, the 166 00:07:32,018 --> 00:07:34,986 Range, every aspect. Take care. Tcb, you know, I 167 00:07:34,988 --> 00:07:36,788 take care. Tcb, you know, I used to love listening to 168 00:07:36,790 --> 00:07:37,589 Used to love listening to aretha franklin because aretha 169 00:07:37,591 --> 00:07:38,023 Aretha franklin because aretha is so bad. 170 00:07:38,025 --> 00:07:39,491 Is so bad. You know, she doesn't have 171 00:07:39,493 --> 00:07:41,793 you know, she doesn't have to get you at her peak. High 172 00:07:41,795 --> 00:07:42,794 To get you at her peak. High note. You know aretha, when 173 00:07:42,796 --> 00:07:45,797 Note. You know aretha, when she's singing in neutral, can 174 00:07:45,799 --> 00:07:47,759 She's singing in neutral, can render you helpless. 175 00:07:48,301 --> 00:07:53,404 I want you I respect every jane coaston luther studied the soul 176 00:07:53,406 --> 00:07:55,173 Coaston luther studied the soul of aretha. 177 00:07:55,175 --> 00:07:55,807 Of aretha. He studied the sweet 178 00:07:55,809 --> 00:07:58,142 he studied the sweet inspirations and their tight 179 00:07:58,144 --> 00:08:00,679 Inspirations and their tight harmonies. Oh 180 00:08:01,147 --> 00:08:05,517 Yeah, he. He studied dionne warwick, he studied. He studied 181 00:08:05,519 --> 00:08:07,018 Warwick, he studied. He studied the tonality and the grace of 182 00:08:07,020 --> 00:08:12,690 The tonality and the grace of of her voice. Paul. 183 00:08:12,692 --> 00:08:15,360 Of her voice. Paul. Me. I'll be there. 184 00:08:16,795 --> 00:08:21,900 Just waiting. So don't think because you've been 185 00:08:22,167 --> 00:08:24,536 Running around. I won't answer the phone. 186 00:08:24,538 --> 00:08:26,938 The phone. When your world tumbles 187 00:08:26,940 --> 00:08:29,841 when your world tumbles down. You can call me any old 188 00:08:29,843 --> 00:08:31,009 Down. You can call me any old time of the day. 189 00:08:31,011 --> 00:08:32,544 Time of the day. When did you know that you 190 00:08:32,546 --> 00:08:34,079 when did you know that you could sing? 191 00:08:34,081 --> 00:08:35,514 Could sing? I knew that I wanted to 192 00:08:35,516 --> 00:08:38,049 I knew that I wanted to sing. I was about 13 and I had 193 00:08:38,051 --> 00:08:40,251 Sing. I was about 13 and I had gone to see dionne warwick at 194 00:08:40,253 --> 00:08:42,820 Gone to see dionne warwick at the brooklyn fox theater. And. 195 00:08:42,822 --> 00:08:46,491 The brooklyn fox theater. And. And I think I knew from that 196 00:08:46,493 --> 00:08:48,192 And I think I knew from that moment that I wanted to be able 197 00:08:48,194 --> 00:08:49,661 Moment that I wanted to be able to affect people the way she 198 00:08:49,663 --> 00:08:52,097 To affect people the way she affected me that day. 199 00:08:52,099 --> 00:08:54,632 Affected me that day. It was the height of black 200 00:08:54,634 --> 00:08:56,468 it was the height of black music. The apollo theater was 201 00:08:56,470 --> 00:08:59,003 Music. The apollo theater was the center for everything in 202 00:08:59,005 --> 00:09:01,106 The center for everything in harlem. Musically. We got to 203 00:09:01,108 --> 00:09:02,206 Harlem. Musically. We got to see it all happen and there was 204 00:09:02,208 --> 00:09:05,209 See it all happen and there was music on 125th street blasting 205 00:09:05,211 --> 00:09:06,691 Music on 125th street blasting all the 206 00:09:07,346 --> 00:09:13,051 Time. I like to know. That your love. 207 00:09:13,285 --> 00:09:19,285 I can't turn you loose now is one of the hottest groups in 208 00:09:19,293 --> 00:09:19,691 One of the hottest groups in the country. 209 00:09:19,693 --> 00:09:21,326 The country. The temptations, the world 210 00:09:21,328 --> 00:09:23,661 the temptations, the world and saboteurs. 211 00:09:23,663 --> 00:09:24,295 And saboteurs. I refuse to explain. 212 00:09:24,297 --> 00:09:26,431 I refuse to explain. I just wish it would rain. 213 00:09:26,433 --> 00:09:28,366 I just wish it would rain. Oh, let it rain. 214 00:09:28,368 --> 00:09:29,701 Oh, let it rain. We were in a group called 215 00:09:29,703 --> 00:09:31,369 we were in a group called missing my brother, which was 216 00:09:31,371 --> 00:09:32,203 Missing my brother, which was owned and managed by the people 217 00:09:32,205 --> 00:09:33,972 Owned and managed by the people who owned the apollo theater, 218 00:09:33,974 --> 00:09:35,206 Who owned the apollo theater, and we used to get to see all 219 00:09:35,208 --> 00:09:37,909 And we used to get to see all the shows from going to the 220 00:09:37,911 --> 00:09:39,043 The shows from going to the apollo anytime we wanted to see 221 00:09:39,045 --> 00:09:40,078 Apollo anytime we wanted to see any show. That was one of the 222 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,680 Any show. That was one of the real big 223 00:09:43,349 --> 00:09:49,087 Perks. Of the band. My brother to what we've got 224 00:09:49,089 --> 00:09:51,389 my brother to what we've got to say. This and my brother, 225 00:09:51,391 --> 00:09:52,757 To say. This and my brother, cause this is our day. 226 00:09:52,759 --> 00:09:54,225 Cause this is our day. Listen, my brother was five 227 00:09:54,227 --> 00:09:56,294 listen, my brother was five guys, five girls and a five 228 00:09:56,296 --> 00:09:57,695 Guys, five girls and a five piece band, and we were singing 229 00:09:57,697 --> 00:09:59,631 Piece band, and we were singing these original songs about 230 00:09:59,633 --> 00:10:00,331 These original songs about being young and black and 231 00:10:00,333 --> 00:10:02,100 Being young and black and about, I'm going to make it. 232 00:10:02,102 --> 00:10:03,368 About, I'm going to make it. And they were all topical as it 233 00:10:03,370 --> 00:10:06,304 And they were all topical as it related to the time. Sometimes 234 00:10:06,306 --> 00:10:09,273 Related to the time. Sometimes we get burdened. 235 00:10:09,275 --> 00:10:09,874 We get burdened. So many times 236 00:10:10,042 --> 00:10:13,545 We have to cry, but if you make me look, I'll make it to the 237 00:10:13,547 --> 00:10:14,078 Me look, I'll make it to the top. 238 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,147 Top. It'll 239 00:10:17,350 --> 00:10:18,550 Tell you that's a good step back. 240 00:10:18,552 --> 00:10:19,316 Back. The context that we're 241 00:10:19,318 --> 00:10:20,618 the context that we're talking about is extremely 242 00:10:20,620 --> 00:10:22,453 Talking about is extremely important. To have the whole 243 00:10:22,455 --> 00:10:24,389 Important. To have the whole black panthers and all of that. 244 00:10:24,391 --> 00:10:25,557 Black panthers and all of that. We sang songs about being 245 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:26,891 we sang songs about being young and black and no one 246 00:10:26,893 --> 00:10:27,559 Young and black and no one stopping us. We're going to 247 00:10:27,561 --> 00:10:29,327 Stopping us. We're going to make it to the top. Move, move 248 00:10:29,329 --> 00:10:32,096 Make it to the top. Move, move out of our way, out of our way. 249 00:10:32,098 --> 00:10:34,199 Out of our way, out of our way. These songs were, in effect, 250 00:10:34,201 --> 00:10:35,200 these songs were, in effect, mantras that we would repeat 251 00:10:35,202 --> 00:10:36,801 Mantras that we would repeat for the rest of our lives. 252 00:10:36,803 --> 00:10:39,371 For the rest of our lives. Listen 253 00:10:40,973 --> 00:10:42,106 Everybody, we got a story to tell. 254 00:10:42,108 --> 00:10:43,107 Tell. Peter long, who ran the 255 00:10:43,109 --> 00:10:44,175 peter long, who ran the group, came to us one day in 256 00:10:44,177 --> 00:10:46,044 Group, came to us one day in rehearsal and he said, 257 00:10:46,046 --> 00:10:48,112 Rehearsal and he said, someone's going to come down 258 00:10:48,114 --> 00:10:49,947 Someone's going to come down to see you guys because he'd 259 00:10:49,949 --> 00:10:51,949 To see you guys because he'd always have people come down. 260 00:10:51,951 --> 00:10:52,950 Always have people come down. So he said, this guy jim henson 261 00:10:52,952 --> 00:10:53,951 So he said, this guy jim henson is going to come down to see 262 00:10:53,953 --> 00:10:55,753 Is going to come down to see what you do. So we performed 263 00:10:55,755 --> 00:10:59,958 What you do. So we performed the whole show for him. We go 264 00:11:00,926 --> 00:11:04,128 To rehearsal the next day and peter comes to us and he says, 265 00:11:04,130 --> 00:11:04,796 Peter comes to us and he says, there's a tv show, there's a 266 00:11:04,798 --> 00:11:06,798 There's a tv show, there's a new show for kids coming on 267 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,835 New show for kids coming on that I want you guys to do, 268 00:11:10,837 --> 00:11:13,805 That I want you guys to do, like tv. Are you kidding 269 00:11:13,807 --> 00:11:14,338 Like tv. Are you kidding something? Yeah. 270 00:11:14,340 --> 00:11:14,439 Something? Yeah. 271 00:11:14,607 --> 00:11:20,607 You got to love something. You got to like something to 272 00:11:21,214 --> 00:11:23,748 You got to like something to get where you want to 273 00:11:23,982 --> 00:11:28,820 Be. A man can play a song. No, no, there's no melody. Here. A 274 00:11:28,822 --> 00:11:33,391 No, there's no melody. Here. A girl can bake a cake. Now. If 275 00:11:33,393 --> 00:11:35,427 Girl can bake a cake. Now. If she don't have a recipe, a man 276 00:11:35,429 --> 00:11:40,432 She don't have a recipe, a man can build a. House. If he 277 00:11:40,434 --> 00:11:42,500 Can build a. House. If he can't cut a tree, you've got 278 00:11:42,502 --> 00:11:44,202 Can't cut a tree, you've got to learn. You got to learn. 279 00:11:44,204 --> 00:11:45,470 To learn. You got to learn. And he explains the concept 280 00:11:45,472 --> 00:11:48,172 and he explains the concept of having a neighborhood just 281 00:11:48,174 --> 00:11:49,240 Of having a neighborhood just like harlem. A lot of people 282 00:11:49,242 --> 00:11:51,175 Like harlem. A lot of people look at sesame street as, oh, 283 00:11:51,177 --> 00:11:52,844 Look at sesame street as, oh, sesame street, no, that's 284 00:11:52,846 --> 00:11:54,979 Sesame street, no, that's harlem, just like those little 285 00:11:54,981 --> 00:11:56,380 Harlem, just like those little buildings that you see. And 286 00:11:56,382 --> 00:11:57,148 Buildings that you see. And everybody's sitting on the 287 00:11:57,150 --> 00:11:57,982 Everybody's sitting on the porch and they're three story 288 00:11:57,984 --> 00:12:00,118 Porch and they're three story walk ups and they're all kind 289 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,253 Walk ups and they're all kind of old, but they're really 290 00:12:02,255 --> 00:12:04,856 Of old, but they're really well-kept and a lot of wood. 291 00:12:04,858 --> 00:12:07,191 Well-kept and a lot of wood. That's harlem. Well, that 292 00:12:07,193 --> 00:12:08,826 That's harlem. Well, that being said, you can't have 293 00:12:08,828 --> 00:12:11,663 Being said, you can't have songs that are I'm sorry. So 294 00:12:11,665 --> 00:12:17,068 Songs that are I'm sorry. So square a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h I 295 00:12:17,070 --> 00:12:17,469 Square a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h I that ain't 296 00:12:18,037 --> 00:12:24,037 Swinging, that ain't soulful a b c d e f g h I j k l m n o p q 297 00:12:26,313 --> 00:12:29,046 B c d e f g h I j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z. 298 00:12:29,048 --> 00:12:30,248 R s t u v w x y z. Hey, boys and girls, have 299 00:12:30,250 --> 00:12:32,850 hey, boys and girls, have you met 26 letters of the 300 00:12:32,852 --> 00:12:33,318 You met 26 letters of the alphabet? 301 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:34,118 Alphabet? The little rhyming words, 302 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,854 the little rhyming words, for lack of a better word, 303 00:12:36,856 --> 00:12:37,388 For lack of a better word, we're rapping. 304 00:12:37,390 --> 00:12:38,055 We're rapping. Come on, children, and 305 00:12:38,057 --> 00:12:39,223 come on, children, and don't be slow. We're gonna 306 00:12:39,225 --> 00:12:41,760 Don't be slow. We're gonna count to 20. And here 307 00:12:42,394 --> 00:12:45,330 We go. 1234567, eight nine, ten. 308 00:12:45,332 --> 00:12:47,865 1234567, eight nine, ten. We're only halfway. So here we 309 00:12:47,867 --> 00:12:51,536 We're only halfway. So here we go again 11, 12.13. 310 00:12:51,538 --> 00:12:53,371 Go again 11, 12.13. 14. It wasn't like he was 311 00:12:53,373 --> 00:12:54,506 14. It wasn't like he was top dog. So don't look at 312 00:12:54,508 --> 00:12:55,507 Top dog. So don't look at luther as being the top dog. 313 00:12:55,509 --> 00:12:58,109 Luther as being the top dog. And listen to my brother. He 314 00:12:58,111 --> 00:13:00,311 And listen to my brother. He wasn't. And the fact is for 315 00:13:00,313 --> 00:13:05,183 Wasn't. And the fact is for that are the obvious. Black and 316 00:13:05,185 --> 00:13:06,718 That are the obvious. Black and heavy. If you are too black or 317 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,886 Heavy. If you are too black or you're too fat, you got a 318 00:13:08,888 --> 00:13:10,188 You're too fat, you got a problem. You didn't know you 319 00:13:10,190 --> 00:13:11,121 Problem. You didn't know you had a problem until it was made 320 00:13:11,123 --> 00:13:15,459 Had a problem until it was made a problem. Could you sing your 321 00:13:15,461 --> 00:13:16,227 A problem. Could you sing your butt off better than everybody 322 00:13:16,229 --> 00:13:18,196 Butt off better than everybody on that stage? 323 00:13:18,198 --> 00:13:21,132 On that stage? 17, 18, 19, 20? 324 00:13:21,134 --> 00:13:22,944 17, 18, 19, 20? Even during those years, you 325 00:13:22,968 --> 00:13:25,469 Still had prejudices based on the look and the appearance of 326 00:13:25,471 --> 00:13:30,475 The look and the appearance of what it is, not the talent. 327 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:40,151 That luther vandross went to kalamazoo, michigan to go to 328 00:13:40,153 --> 00:13:42,387 Kalamazoo, michigan to go to college. But boy, he was 329 00:13:42,389 --> 00:13:43,755 College. But boy, he was miserable. He was. First of 330 00:13:43,757 --> 00:13:45,656 Miserable. He was. First of all, we were in listen, my 331 00:13:45,658 --> 00:13:47,491 All, we were in listen, my brother. And then he got 332 00:13:47,493 --> 00:13:48,860 Brother. And then he got accepted. He didn't think he 333 00:13:48,862 --> 00:13:51,762 Accepted. He didn't think he was going to get accepted. 334 00:13:51,764 --> 00:13:52,930 Was going to get accepted. He used to always call down 335 00:13:52,932 --> 00:13:53,565 he used to always call down to the rehearsal, what are 336 00:13:53,567 --> 00:13:54,331 To the rehearsal, what are y'all doing? What are you 337 00:13:54,333 --> 00:13:54,966 Y'all doing? What are you singing? That kind of stuff. So 338 00:13:54,968 --> 00:13:57,468 Singing? That kind of stuff. So he was doing well in school. He 339 00:13:57,470 --> 00:13:58,970 He was doing well in school. He always said he was like a b+ 340 00:13:58,972 --> 00:14:01,406 Always said he was like a b+ student in school. But, um, his 341 00:14:01,408 --> 00:14:03,641 Student in school. But, um, his his ear, he was thinking about 342 00:14:03,643 --> 00:14:04,776 His ear, he was thinking about the music. He wanted to come 343 00:14:04,778 --> 00:14:06,844 The music. He wanted to come back to new york and be 344 00:14:06,846 --> 00:14:07,645 Back to new york and be involved with the things that 345 00:14:07,647 --> 00:14:09,781 Involved with the things that we were doing. 346 00:14:09,783 --> 00:14:10,903 We were doing. When I went 347 00:14:11,450 --> 00:14:14,886 To college, I did not go back the second year because I 348 00:14:14,888 --> 00:14:15,887 The second year because I really did not want a plan b. I 349 00:14:15,889 --> 00:14:16,720 Really did not want a plan b. I said, you know what? It's going 350 00:14:16,722 --> 00:14:19,123 Said, you know what? It's going to be this or I'm going to be 351 00:14:19,125 --> 00:14:21,359 To be this or I'm going to be 80 trying to do it. And I told 352 00:14:21,361 --> 00:14:23,961 80 trying to do it. And I told my 353 00:14:24,630 --> 00:14:27,799 Mother that I wanted to drop out and pursue music, and she 354 00:14:27,801 --> 00:14:30,101 Out and pursue music, and she surprisingly said, sure. And I 355 00:14:30,103 --> 00:14:31,302 Surprisingly said, sure. And I think the reason she said sure 356 00:14:31,304 --> 00:14:34,338 Think the reason she said sure is because of what I didn't 357 00:14:34,340 --> 00:14:36,107 Is because of what I didn't know, which is that my father 358 00:14:36,109 --> 00:14:38,610 Know, which is that my father was a brilliant singer. He 359 00:14:38,612 --> 00:14:40,044 Was a brilliant singer. He passed away when I was eight 360 00:14:40,046 --> 00:14:41,279 Passed away when I was eight years old, and they said that I 361 00:14:41,281 --> 00:14:44,749 Years old, and they said that I got it from him. So I said, 362 00:14:44,751 --> 00:14:46,818 Got it from him. So I said, I'm going to focus my entire 363 00:14:46,820 --> 00:14:49,387 I'm going to focus my entire life and whole energy into 364 00:14:49,389 --> 00:14:51,456 Life and whole energy into this, and there is no other 365 00:14:51,458 --> 00:14:52,189 This, and there is no other consideration. So rejection 366 00:14:52,191 --> 00:14:52,824 Consideration. So rejection will just have to happen. And 367 00:14:52,826 --> 00:14:55,026 Will just have to happen. And if it 368 00:14:56,829 --> 00:14:59,998 Happens, it will happen. And I'll keep on going. 369 00:15:01,066 --> 00:15:02,900 Philadelphia has a unique blend of rhythm and blues that 370 00:15:02,902 --> 00:15:05,403 Blend of rhythm and blues that is distinctly 371 00:15:05,638 --> 00:15:10,975 Philly. First it was motown and then 372 00:15:10,977 --> 00:15:11,643 first it was motown and then there was west philly. There 373 00:15:11,645 --> 00:15:13,744 There was west philly. There was gamble and huff. There were 374 00:15:13,746 --> 00:15:14,779 Was gamble and huff. There were just all of those great groups 375 00:15:14,781 --> 00:15:16,914 Just all of those great groups that came out of there. The 376 00:15:16,916 --> 00:15:19,517 That came out of there. The o'jays and first choice 377 00:15:20,152 --> 00:15:24,188 And the three degrees. You. Will hear they 378 00:15:25,024 --> 00:15:28,392 Were doing their own thing. It wasn't motown. It was. It was 379 00:15:28,394 --> 00:15:29,961 Wasn't motown. It was. It was lush. But it was. It was east 380 00:15:29,963 --> 00:15:34,532 Lush. But it was. It was east coast. It was. It just had a, 381 00:15:34,534 --> 00:15:35,066 Coast. It was. It just had a, uh. 382 00:15:35,068 --> 00:15:37,401 Uh. I don't think they'll miss 383 00:15:37,403 --> 00:15:39,470 I don't think they'll miss what they do. They smiling in 384 00:15:39,472 --> 00:15:40,438 What they do. They smiling in your face all the time. You 385 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,941 Your face all the time. You want to take your 386 00:15:43,241 --> 00:15:46,243 Place? The. Backstabbers. Backstabbers. 387 00:15:46,245 --> 00:15:46,878 Backstabbers. I keep getting the 388 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,680 I keep getting the philadelphia sound. Took the 389 00:15:48,682 --> 00:15:50,581 Philadelphia sound. Took the motown sound and stripped it of 390 00:15:50,583 --> 00:15:52,884 Motown sound and stripped it of its formality. Stripped it of 391 00:15:52,886 --> 00:15:55,420 Its formality. Stripped it of its 392 00:15:55,687 --> 00:16:00,057 Tuxedos and beaded gowns, and it said, come as you are and 393 00:16:00,059 --> 00:16:02,560 It said, come as you are and scream a little bit. 394 00:16:02,761 --> 00:16:05,796 And you, 395 00:16:05,998 --> 00:16:07,598 You are. Pick your hair out. You know what I'm saying? Let 396 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,734 You know what I'm saying? Let your afro be big and bouncy and 397 00:16:09,736 --> 00:16:13,437 Your afro be big and bouncy and wild. I know, I know, my, my 398 00:16:13,439 --> 00:16:15,139 Wild. I know, I know, my, my motown was giving you a little 399 00:16:15,141 --> 00:16:17,742 Motown was giving you a little bit more of like. 400 00:16:17,976 --> 00:16:23,280 We matching and we home by midnight. More 401 00:16:24,416 --> 00:16:27,518 Than I deserve. For. You. Are. 402 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,121 For. You. Are. You know the philly sound 403 00:16:30,123 --> 00:16:32,723 you know the philly sound was more to the point and 404 00:16:32,725 --> 00:16:35,226 Was more to the point and really got deep 405 00:16:35,527 --> 00:16:38,029 Into the black experience. So when I when I hear about boy, 406 00:16:38,031 --> 00:16:38,730 When I when I hear about boy, when I hear about mick jagger, 407 00:16:38,732 --> 00:16:39,864 When I hear about mick jagger, when I hear about all these 408 00:16:39,866 --> 00:16:42,466 When I hear about all these people, this is music that they 409 00:16:42,468 --> 00:16:44,969 People, this is music that they truly appreciated. 410 00:16:45,137 --> 00:16:46,470 It was a sound that deeply resonated with them. 411 00:16:46,472 --> 00:16:48,272 Resonated with them. To somebody like david 412 00:16:48,274 --> 00:16:50,041 to somebody like david bowie, it was a little bit 413 00:16:50,043 --> 00:16:51,943 Bowie, it was a little bit cooler, a little bit of the 414 00:16:51,945 --> 00:16:54,311 Cooler, a little bit of the moment, a little bit raspier, a 415 00:16:54,313 --> 00:16:56,313 Moment, a little bit raspier, a little bit rowdier. So why not 416 00:16:56,315 --> 00:16:58,916 Little bit rowdier. So why not be 417 00:16:59,150 --> 00:17:00,151 There? Oh my. Yeah. 418 00:17:00,153 --> 00:17:02,720 Yeah. So we're in new york city 419 00:17:02,722 --> 00:17:05,156 so we're in new york city and carlos gets a call 420 00:17:05,624 --> 00:17:09,293 From david bowie. Hey, baby, it's for the young americans 421 00:17:09,295 --> 00:17:11,162 It's for the young americans album. And carlos has to go 422 00:17:11,164 --> 00:17:13,864 Album. And carlos has to go down to philadelphia to record 423 00:17:13,866 --> 00:17:16,500 Down to philadelphia to record the line. 424 00:17:17,236 --> 00:17:22,306 And my. Heart for you. 425 00:17:22,975 --> 00:17:25,843 During that time, we had this whole thing where the way 426 00:17:25,845 --> 00:17:26,543 This whole thing where the way that we used to get gigs is we 427 00:17:26,545 --> 00:17:28,212 That we used to get gigs is we would attend each other's 428 00:17:28,214 --> 00:17:30,448 Would attend each other's sessions. And if, incidentally, 429 00:17:30,450 --> 00:17:32,516 Sessions. And if, incidentally, they happened to need somebody 430 00:17:32,518 --> 00:17:33,184 They happened to need somebody to fill in, oh my friends, a 431 00:17:33,186 --> 00:17:36,053 To fill in, oh my friends, a singer, he could definitely do 432 00:17:36,055 --> 00:17:37,789 Singer, he could definitely do it. And we always brought 433 00:17:37,791 --> 00:17:40,391 It. And we always brought luther come forward. 434 00:17:42,261 --> 00:17:44,695 Yeah, that looks great. 435 00:17:45,731 --> 00:17:51,731 Taking it all the right way, keeping it in the back. 436 00:17:51,938 --> 00:17:54,405 Keeping it in the back. Taking it all the right way. 437 00:17:54,407 --> 00:17:55,406 Taking it all the right way. Lucy started doing what he 438 00:17:55,408 --> 00:17:56,841 lucy started doing what he does, which is start singing. 439 00:17:56,843 --> 00:17:58,643 Does, which is start singing. When david put music on, he 440 00:17:58,645 --> 00:17:59,910 When david put music on, he starts, you know, whatever. How 441 00:17:59,912 --> 00:18:01,378 Starts, you know, whatever. How many? And david was like, wow, 442 00:18:01,380 --> 00:18:03,648 Many? And david was like, wow, this guy is great. Flying. Just 443 00:18:03,650 --> 00:18:06,217 This guy is great. Flying. Just a sweet place. 444 00:18:06,219 --> 00:18:08,552 A sweet place. Never been known to fail, 445 00:18:08,554 --> 00:18:09,020 never been known to fail, never been known. 446 00:18:09,022 --> 00:18:10,421 Never been known. David knew talent and he 447 00:18:10,423 --> 00:18:14,024 david knew talent and he whispered to me, he said, I 448 00:18:14,026 --> 00:18:15,960 Whispered to me, he said, I love this guy. And I'm like, 449 00:18:15,962 --> 00:18:17,261 Love this guy. And I'm like, what's not to love, right? 450 00:18:17,263 --> 00:18:20,231 What's not to love, right? And again, on the one, two, 451 00:18:20,233 --> 00:18:21,765 and again, on the one, two, three time giving it when it, 452 00:18:21,767 --> 00:18:24,502 Three time giving it when it, giving it, keeping it back. 453 00:18:24,504 --> 00:18:25,603 Giving it, keeping it back. Right. That's fine. Okay. So 454 00:18:25,605 --> 00:18:27,305 Right. That's fine. Okay. So we got that. That one's all 455 00:18:27,307 --> 00:18:28,739 We got that. That one's all right. 456 00:18:28,741 --> 00:18:29,874 Right. Robin and luther are always 457 00:18:29,876 --> 00:18:32,043 robin and luther are always making up parts. That's what 458 00:18:32,045 --> 00:18:32,910 Making up parts. That's what you do. And so they sit on the 459 00:18:32,912 --> 00:18:34,645 You do. And so they sit on the couch. You know how it is. 460 00:18:34,647 --> 00:18:36,147 Couch. You know how it is. Speakers are there. They're 461 00:18:36,149 --> 00:18:38,816 Speakers are there. They're listening back to the music. 462 00:18:38,818 --> 00:18:39,483 Listening back to the music. She took his babies. 463 00:18:39,485 --> 00:18:40,217 She took his babies. It took him minutes. 464 00:18:40,219 --> 00:18:41,585 It took him minutes. David bowie's back there 465 00:18:41,587 --> 00:18:42,953 david bowie's back there with the engineer, and they're 466 00:18:42,955 --> 00:18:45,456 With the engineer, and they're playing the tracks 467 00:18:46,024 --> 00:18:48,425 Back. It's. All right. She wants the 468 00:18:48,427 --> 00:18:50,962 all right. She wants the young 469 00:18:51,263 --> 00:18:56,467 American and david, he's playing young americans just to 470 00:18:56,469 --> 00:18:58,068 Playing young americans just to to hear it. 471 00:18:58,070 --> 00:18:58,869 To hear it. And luther leans over to me 472 00:18:58,871 --> 00:18:59,737 and luther leans over to me and he says, robin, what do you 473 00:18:59,739 --> 00:19:02,473 And he says, robin, what do you think of this young american, 474 00:19:02,475 --> 00:19:05,276 Think of this young american, young american? 475 00:19:05,278 --> 00:19:08,412 Young american? She wants a young. American. 476 00:19:08,414 --> 00:19:08,746 She wants a young. American. And david, 477 00:19:09,248 --> 00:19:12,283 Unbeknownst to me, was sitting at the board behind me with a 478 00:19:12,285 --> 00:19:15,252 At the board behind me with a guy named carl who was the 479 00:19:15,254 --> 00:19:16,654 Guy named carl who was the engineer. And he said, I love 480 00:19:16,656 --> 00:19:17,321 Engineer. And he said, I love that. 481 00:19:17,323 --> 00:19:18,189 That. What a breath of fresh air. 482 00:19:18,191 --> 00:19:19,256 What a breath of fresh air. I mean, it had just such a 483 00:19:19,258 --> 00:19:20,624 I mean, it had just such a fantastic voice that I asked 484 00:19:20,626 --> 00:19:22,826 Fantastic voice that I asked him if he wanted to kind of 485 00:19:22,828 --> 00:19:24,161 Him if he wanted to kind of join in the session and start 486 00:19:24,163 --> 00:19:26,764 Join in the session and start doing the 487 00:19:27,266 --> 00:19:32,103 Backing vocals. So what right. You want the young american 488 00:19:32,105 --> 00:19:34,438 you want the young american younger man young american, 489 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,440 Younger man young american, what the young man? 490 00:19:36,442 --> 00:19:37,508 What the young man? They went in there and 491 00:19:37,510 --> 00:19:38,175 they went in there and started singing the young 492 00:19:38,177 --> 00:19:38,976 Started singing the young americans. David bowie was 493 00:19:38,978 --> 00:19:41,845 Americans. David bowie was blown away. He's like, you're 494 00:19:41,847 --> 00:19:44,115 Blown away. He's like, you're in. I heard the news today. 495 00:19:44,117 --> 00:19:45,883 In. I heard the news today. Oh boy. I got a sweet you 496 00:19:45,885 --> 00:19:50,955 oh boy. I got a sweet you got the beat. Oh. 497 00:19:51,189 --> 00:19:57,189 Say no more. And they retired. I'm happy that 498 00:19:57,596 --> 00:20:00,698 I remember that. Because I 499 00:20:02,267 --> 00:20:06,203 Know that. One night, all night. You want the young 500 00:20:06,205 --> 00:20:07,004 Night. You want the young american bowie was a rock and 501 00:20:07,006 --> 00:20:07,371 American bowie was a rock and roller. 502 00:20:07,373 --> 00:20:09,039 Roller. He was doing stuff that was 503 00:20:09,041 --> 00:20:10,307 he was doing stuff that was miles away from what r&b music 504 00:20:10,309 --> 00:20:12,376 Miles away from what r&b music is. You know, luther brought a 505 00:20:12,378 --> 00:20:15,146 Is. You know, luther brought a certain style of singing, and 506 00:20:15,148 --> 00:20:20,151 Certain style of singing, and bowie loved it the guy got 507 00:20:20,153 --> 00:20:22,353 Bowie loved it the guy got magnus carlsen, and now 508 00:20:22,355 --> 00:20:24,521 Magnus carlsen, and now suddenly luther was arranging 509 00:20:24,523 --> 00:20:26,357 Suddenly luther was arranging the entire album, and this was 510 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,158 The entire album, and this was also when luther had his group, 511 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:29,160 Also when luther had his group, luther on cotillion, because he 512 00:20:29,162 --> 00:20:30,261 Luther on cotillion, because he had a whole album full of songs 513 00:20:30,263 --> 00:20:31,695 Had a whole album full of songs that he had written and 514 00:20:31,697 --> 00:20:32,863 That he had written and produced, and david heard a 515 00:20:32,865 --> 00:20:34,531 Produced, and david heard a song called funky music is a 516 00:20:34,533 --> 00:20:37,068 Song called funky music is a part of 517 00:20:37,368 --> 00:20:39,736 Me. And he said, boy, I really, really like that, but I can't 518 00:20:39,738 --> 00:20:41,204 Really like that, but I can't sing it. It's funky music. So 519 00:20:41,206 --> 00:20:43,707 Sing it. It's funky music. So they 520 00:20:44,876 --> 00:20:47,878 Rewrote it as fascination. As nation, fascination shown up, 521 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,381 Nation, fascination shown up, fascination takes a part of me 522 00:20:50,383 --> 00:20:53,050 Fascination takes a part of me that was luther's song I 523 00:20:53,052 --> 00:20:54,986 That was luther's song I can't help it. 524 00:20:54,988 --> 00:20:57,655 Can't help it. No, I've got to move. 525 00:20:57,856 --> 00:21:03,093 Every time I get music comes around. 526 00:21:03,095 --> 00:21:03,861 Around. Yeah, this is luther, and 527 00:21:03,863 --> 00:21:06,196 yeah, this is luther, and that's the name of the group. 528 00:21:06,198 --> 00:21:07,965 That's the name of the group. Why? Just luther? Luther? 529 00:21:07,967 --> 00:21:09,133 Why? Just luther? Luther? Uh, I write the songs, I 530 00:21:09,135 --> 00:21:11,368 uh, I write the songs, I sing them, you know, some of 531 00:21:11,370 --> 00:21:12,403 Sing them, you know, some of them. And the record company 532 00:21:12,405 --> 00:21:13,537 Them. And the record company named us luther, by the way. 533 00:21:13,539 --> 00:21:16,007 Named us luther, by the way. They thought that name would be 534 00:21:16,009 --> 00:21:17,074 They thought that name would be more recognizable than the 535 00:21:17,076 --> 00:21:19,810 More recognizable than the others that we had tried. I 536 00:21:19,812 --> 00:21:20,644 Others that we had tried. I love singing, just give me the 537 00:21:20,646 --> 00:21:20,878 Love singing, just give me the beat. 538 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:21,845 Beat. Just give it to me. Give it 539 00:21:21,847 --> 00:21:24,982 just give it to me. Give it to me, give it to me. Please. 540 00:21:24,984 --> 00:21:27,885 To me, give it to me. Please. Come on now, come on now. 541 00:21:27,887 --> 00:21:30,387 Come on now, come on now. Everybody. Everybody get up, 542 00:21:30,389 --> 00:21:34,225 Everybody. Everybody get up, get up, get up, now. Oh, I 543 00:21:34,227 --> 00:21:36,060 Get up, get up, now. Oh, I can't help myself. No, no. 544 00:21:36,062 --> 00:21:37,227 Can't help myself. No, no. I love those days. David. 545 00:21:37,229 --> 00:21:38,595 I love those days. David. You know what? He used to make 546 00:21:38,597 --> 00:21:39,563 You know what? He used to make me do? This was when he first 547 00:21:39,565 --> 00:21:41,232 Me do? This was when he first hired me. He first heard me 548 00:21:41,234 --> 00:21:43,634 Hired me. He first heard me singing. He used to have me go 549 00:21:43,636 --> 00:21:44,802 Singing. He used to have me go on stage and do a half an hour 550 00:21:44,804 --> 00:21:47,304 On stage and do a half an hour show of only my own material, 551 00:21:47,306 --> 00:21:49,640 Show of only my own material, and the audience was saying, 552 00:21:49,642 --> 00:21:52,176 And the audience was saying, bowie. Bowie, you know, they 553 00:21:52,178 --> 00:21:52,976 Bowie. Bowie, you know, they had no idea who I was. You 554 00:21:52,978 --> 00:21:53,878 Had no idea who I was. You know, I was young and 555 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,012 Know, I was young and everything, and I came off 556 00:21:55,014 --> 00:21:56,947 Everything, and I came off stage. I said, david, if you're 557 00:21:56,949 --> 00:21:58,249 Stage. I said, david, if you're trying to kill me, use an ax. 558 00:21:58,251 --> 00:22:00,451 Trying to kill me, use an ax. Don't don't do it to me like 559 00:22:00,453 --> 00:22:01,819 Don't don't do it to me like this, you know. And he was 560 00:22:01,821 --> 00:22:03,654 This, you know. And he was saying, no, you have to 561 00:22:03,656 --> 00:22:04,588 Saying, no, you have to understand. You're getting a 562 00:22:04,590 --> 00:22:05,923 Understand. You're getting a chance to sharpen your tools 563 00:22:05,925 --> 00:22:07,091 Chance to sharpen your tools and get out there. You're 564 00:22:07,093 --> 00:22:08,826 And get out there. You're getting the experience of a 565 00:22:08,828 --> 00:22:10,627 Getting the experience of a lifetime in advance of what I 566 00:22:10,629 --> 00:22:14,264 Lifetime in advance of what I know is going to be your career 567 00:22:14,266 --> 00:22:15,265 Know is going to be your career david introduced me to bette 568 00:22:15,267 --> 00:22:16,467 David introduced me to bette midler, and I toured with bette 569 00:22:16,469 --> 00:22:18,202 Midler, and I toured with bette midler for many years, and she 570 00:22:18,204 --> 00:22:19,636 Midler for many years, and she was big on production. So some 571 00:22:19,638 --> 00:22:21,672 Was big on production. So some of my early impressions about 572 00:22:21,674 --> 00:22:23,640 Of my early impressions about what to do on stage were that 573 00:22:23,642 --> 00:22:25,342 What to do on stage were that you should have, you know, big, 574 00:22:25,344 --> 00:22:29,280 You should have, you know, big, elaborate productions. They do 575 00:22:29,282 --> 00:22:29,813 Elaborate productions. They do it. 576 00:22:29,815 --> 00:22:30,647 It. They do. He believed that 577 00:22:30,649 --> 00:22:32,349 they do. He believed that background singing was an art 578 00:22:32,351 --> 00:22:33,684 Background singing was an art form because you have to know 579 00:22:33,686 --> 00:22:35,219 Form because you have to know how to blend. You have to know 580 00:22:35,221 --> 00:22:36,487 How to blend. You have to know how to follow instructions. You 581 00:22:36,489 --> 00:22:38,355 How to follow instructions. You have to know what to add 582 00:22:38,357 --> 00:22:39,690 Have to know what to add tonally. You know, luther's 583 00:22:39,692 --> 00:22:41,658 Tonally. You know, luther's session career opened up from 584 00:22:41,660 --> 00:22:42,659 Session career opened up from his work with david bowie and 585 00:22:42,661 --> 00:22:44,741 His work with david bowie and bette midler and people 586 00:22:44,963 --> 00:22:49,032 Journalism. The whole story with anderson cooper Sunday at 587 00:22:50,001 --> 00:22:54,705 Eight on cnn. The song we want to do for you now is from the 588 00:22:54,707 --> 00:22:57,308 To do for you now is from the broadway musical called the wiz 589 00:22:57,310 --> 00:22:58,375 Broadway musical called the wiz okay, it was the winner of 590 00:22:58,377 --> 00:23:02,279 Okay, it was the winner of seven tony awards, and I had 591 00:23:02,281 --> 00:23:04,047 Seven tony awards, and I had the privilege and the pleasure 592 00:23:04,049 --> 00:23:05,883 The privilege and the pleasure of being able to write one of 593 00:23:05,885 --> 00:23:08,386 Of being able to write one of the songs 594 00:23:08,620 --> 00:23:11,989 In that show. Okay. And we want to do it 595 00:23:11,991 --> 00:23:14,458 okay. And we want to do it for you now in our own style. 596 00:23:14,460 --> 00:23:16,927 For you now in our own style. Carry on, carry on everybody 597 00:23:16,929 --> 00:23:18,462 Carry on, carry on everybody look around. 598 00:23:18,464 --> 00:23:21,031 Look around. Cause there's a reason to 599 00:23:21,033 --> 00:23:22,900 cause there's a reason to rejoice. You see everybody come 600 00:23:22,902 --> 00:23:25,602 Rejoice. You see everybody come out and let's commence the 601 00:23:25,604 --> 00:23:26,103 Out and let's commence the singing. 602 00:23:26,105 --> 00:23:27,137 Singing. We had a vision, but there 603 00:23:27,139 --> 00:23:28,138 we had a vision, but there was a long period of time where 604 00:23:28,140 --> 00:23:31,708 Was a long period of time where he was trying to get a deal and 605 00:23:31,710 --> 00:23:32,176 He was trying to get a deal and wasn't. 606 00:23:32,178 --> 00:23:33,243 Wasn't. So it wasn't like this was 607 00:23:33,245 --> 00:23:37,548 so it wasn't like this was a sure thing. It's love, see? 608 00:23:37,550 --> 00:23:39,249 A sure thing. It's love, see? But he knew what he wanted. He 609 00:23:39,251 --> 00:23:41,151 But he knew what he wanted. He knew he was talented enough to 610 00:23:41,153 --> 00:23:42,787 Knew he was talented enough to have it. And he kept going for 611 00:23:42,789 --> 00:23:45,422 Have it. And he kept going for it 612 00:23:45,891 --> 00:23:51,562 Can you feel? Daniel hagari 613 00:23:52,731 --> 00:23:58,731 Make you feel. 614 00:23:59,905 --> 00:24:03,073 Brand 615 00:24:04,309 --> 00:24:07,378 New? Because. Good night. I was in luther's band and 616 00:24:07,380 --> 00:24:09,814 I was in luther's band and we were opening for marvin gaye 617 00:24:09,816 --> 00:24:12,115 We were opening for marvin gaye at radio city music hall. And 618 00:24:12,117 --> 00:24:15,786 At radio city music hall. And in those days you had two shows 619 00:24:15,788 --> 00:24:16,987 In those days you had two shows a night at radio city music 620 00:24:16,989 --> 00:24:19,590 A night at radio city music hall. So we played our show. 621 00:24:19,592 --> 00:24:21,392 Hall. So we played our show. Then during the intermission, 622 00:24:21,394 --> 00:24:23,360 Then during the intermission, we ran over to the recording 623 00:24:23,362 --> 00:24:24,995 We ran over to the recording studio and recorded my very 624 00:24:24,997 --> 00:24:28,131 Studio and recorded my very first song, which was everybody 625 00:24:28,133 --> 00:24:29,710 First song, which was everybody dance, everybody dance 626 00:24:29,734 --> 00:24:32,970 Doo doo doo doo, clap your 627 00:24:33,271 --> 00:24:36,707 Hands, clap your hands. Everybody dance. Doo doo doo 628 00:24:36,709 --> 00:24:41,245 everybody dance. Doo doo doo doo doo. Clap your hands, clap 629 00:24:41,247 --> 00:24:41,778 Doo doo. Clap your hands, clap your hands. 630 00:24:41,780 --> 00:24:42,913 Your hands. Luther came and he brought 631 00:24:42,915 --> 00:24:48,352 luther came and he brought all of his singers. And it 632 00:24:48,354 --> 00:24:50,454 All of his singers. And it sounded amazing. After I cut 633 00:24:50,456 --> 00:24:52,990 Sounded amazing. After I cut everybody dance with luther, it 634 00:24:52,992 --> 00:24:54,992 Everybody dance with luther, it just was magical. It was like, 635 00:24:54,994 --> 00:24:57,561 Just was magical. It was like, wow, this is the sound. This is 636 00:24:57,563 --> 00:25:00,364 Wow, this is the sound. This is something special. And it's 637 00:25:00,366 --> 00:25:00,831 Something special. And it's chic. 638 00:25:00,833 --> 00:25:05,302 Chic. Love. Your feet. 639 00:25:06,070 --> 00:25:08,472 Say chic. Freak out. 640 00:25:08,706 --> 00:25:14,011 Have you heard about the new dance craze? 641 00:25:14,013 --> 00:25:15,646 Dance craze? Listen to us. 642 00:25:15,648 --> 00:25:18,315 Listen to us. I'm sure you'll be amazed 643 00:25:18,317 --> 00:25:20,817 I'm sure you'll be amazed big fun to be had by everyone. 644 00:25:20,819 --> 00:25:23,287 Big fun to be had by everyone. It's up to you. 645 00:25:23,289 --> 00:25:25,890 It's up to you. Surely can't be done. 646 00:25:25,892 --> 00:25:28,025 Surely can't be done. Young and old are doing it. 647 00:25:28,027 --> 00:25:30,394 Young and old are doing it. I'm told it's called a freak. 648 00:25:30,396 --> 00:25:31,562 I'm told it's called a freak. They're doing it night and 649 00:25:31,564 --> 00:25:35,999 They're doing it night and day. I. We'll show you the 650 00:25:36,001 --> 00:25:41,071 Day. I. We'll show you the way. Ah, freak show. You freak. 651 00:25:41,073 --> 00:25:41,572 Way. Ah, freak show. You freak. So chic. 652 00:25:41,574 --> 00:25:42,673 So chic. Luther singing every record 653 00:25:42,675 --> 00:25:44,508 luther singing every record we did. He's on everything. 654 00:25:44,510 --> 00:25:46,310 We did. He's on everything. Every every single record we 655 00:25:46,312 --> 00:25:48,545 Every every single record we did. So the first chic album 656 00:25:48,547 --> 00:25:50,147 Did. So the first chic album he's on, every song. The 657 00:25:50,149 --> 00:25:52,149 He's on, every song. The second chic album he's on 658 00:25:52,151 --> 00:25:53,517 Second chic album he's on every song. Then we do sister 659 00:25:53,519 --> 00:25:56,053 Every song. Then we do sister sledge. He's on every song on 660 00:25:56,055 --> 00:25:58,422 Sledge. He's on every song on that record. Luther vandross 661 00:25:58,424 --> 00:26:00,157 That record. Luther vandross vocals had a big part, played a 662 00:26:00,159 --> 00:26:01,692 Vocals had a big part, played a big part. 663 00:26:01,694 --> 00:26:02,693 Big part. What worked for me was that 664 00:26:02,695 --> 00:26:05,696 what worked for me was that I was one of the first real 665 00:26:05,698 --> 00:26:06,163 I was one of the first real singers to 666 00:26:06,230 --> 00:26:11,234 Emerge out of that disco period, and it made me kind of 667 00:26:11,236 --> 00:26:12,703 Period, and it made me kind of singular in what I contributed 668 00:26:12,705 --> 00:26:15,238 Singular in what I contributed to music at that point. And 669 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,240 To music at that point. And from there I went into jingles. 670 00:26:17,242 --> 00:26:19,910 From there I went into jingles. There's nothing like a roller 671 00:26:19,912 --> 00:26:21,878 There's nothing like a roller coaster ride. There's nothing 672 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,182 Coaster ride. There's nothing like a view from a mile in the 673 00:26:25,184 --> 00:26:25,983 Like a view from a mile in the sky, and there's nothing like 674 00:26:25,985 --> 00:26:27,718 Sky, and there's nothing like the 675 00:26:28,019 --> 00:26:31,722 Flavor of juicy fruit gum. I come from a world of 676 00:26:31,724 --> 00:26:33,964 I come from a world of background singing, singing for 677 00:26:34,526 --> 00:26:37,628 Other people. Welcome to. Miller time, 678 00:26:37,630 --> 00:26:38,228 welcome to. Miller time, doing jingles. 679 00:26:38,230 --> 00:26:39,029 Doing jingles. And that's the world that 680 00:26:39,031 --> 00:26:40,897 and that's the world that luther was traveling in. 681 00:26:40,899 --> 00:26:42,933 Luther was traveling in. Bring your thirsty self 682 00:26:42,935 --> 00:26:45,435 bring your thirsty self right here. The rich, smooth 683 00:26:45,437 --> 00:26:47,538 Right here. The rich, smooth taste of miller beer. 684 00:26:47,540 --> 00:26:50,107 Taste of miller beer. And so I knew his 685 00:26:50,408 --> 00:26:53,477 Voice before he became famous 686 00:26:54,646 --> 00:26:59,383 Tonight, tonight, tonight. Let it be low. And bright. 687 00:26:59,385 --> 00:27:00,951 Let it be low. And bright. You'll be loving that whole 688 00:27:00,953 --> 00:27:02,819 you'll be loving that whole thing. The thing that I do came 689 00:27:02,821 --> 00:27:06,857 Thing. The thing that I do came out of my first jingle. It was 690 00:27:07,959 --> 00:27:12,295 For gino's pizza. Gino's. You go for the food. 691 00:27:12,297 --> 00:27:14,131 Go for the food. We've got. Gino's. You go 692 00:27:14,133 --> 00:27:16,533 we've got. Gino's. You go for it. Sizzling hot. 693 00:27:16,535 --> 00:27:17,601 For it. Sizzling hot. And the producer, her name 694 00:27:17,603 --> 00:27:18,435 and the producer, her name was debbie mcduffie. She says, 695 00:27:18,437 --> 00:27:19,135 Was debbie mcduffie. She says, can you give me just something 696 00:27:19,137 --> 00:27:22,606 Can you give me just something to make me feel it hot? Make me 697 00:27:22,608 --> 00:27:24,474 To make me feel it hot? Make me feel it sizzling hot. And I 698 00:27:24,476 --> 00:27:26,810 Feel it sizzling hot. And I said, gino's. You go for it. 699 00:27:26,812 --> 00:27:28,178 Said, gino's. You go for it. It's sizzling hot. Hot. 700 00:27:28,180 --> 00:27:28,912 It's sizzling hot. Hot. And, you know, I just could 701 00:27:28,914 --> 00:27:29,980 and, you know, I just could see the control room just 702 00:27:29,982 --> 00:27:32,516 See the control room just jumping up and clapping and 703 00:27:32,518 --> 00:27:32,983 Jumping up and clapping and stuff. 704 00:27:32,985 --> 00:27:34,317 Stuff. He did it. And and we did 705 00:27:34,319 --> 00:27:35,786 he did it. And and we did erupt then because it was like, 706 00:27:35,788 --> 00:27:38,355 Erupt then because it was like, oh man, this is going to end up 707 00:27:38,357 --> 00:27:40,457 Oh man, this is going to end up being his his thing. So we were 708 00:27:40,459 --> 00:27:41,658 Being his his thing. So we were thinking it in the control room 709 00:27:41,660 --> 00:27:42,793 Thinking it in the control room and he was thinking it on 710 00:27:42,795 --> 00:27:43,627 And he was thinking it on michael, I'm not doing this in 711 00:27:43,629 --> 00:27:46,163 Michael, I'm not doing this in any more 712 00:27:46,464 --> 00:27:50,200 Jingles. And he never did. Going up to set some trends, 713 00:27:50,202 --> 00:27:52,169 Going up to set some trends, want to laugh and dance and 714 00:27:52,171 --> 00:27:52,669 Want to laugh and dance and sing. 715 00:27:52,671 --> 00:27:53,904 Sing. And it was just he was 716 00:27:53,906 --> 00:27:56,139 and it was just he was killing it. He was killing it. 717 00:27:56,141 --> 00:27:58,008 Killing it. He was killing it. And the rates, the pay rates 718 00:27:58,010 --> 00:28:02,012 And the rates, the pay rates that singers got paid was like 719 00:28:02,014 --> 00:28:04,347 That singers got paid was like 100 million times more than 720 00:28:04,349 --> 00:28:05,882 100 million times more than what the musicians got paid. So 721 00:28:05,884 --> 00:28:07,350 What the musicians got paid. So I would say, hey, man, can we 722 00:28:07,352 --> 00:28:08,185 I would say, hey, man, can we go to your mailbox? I just want 723 00:28:08,187 --> 00:28:10,454 Go to your mailbox? I just want to see those commercial checks 724 00:28:10,456 --> 00:28:12,155 To see those commercial checks falling out of your mailbox. 725 00:28:12,157 --> 00:28:14,357 Falling out of your mailbox. You know, as opposed to my 726 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,359 You know, as opposed to my little $34 check. 727 00:28:16,361 --> 00:28:18,662 Little $34 check. It was really a wonderful 728 00:28:18,664 --> 00:28:20,030 it was really a wonderful period of of life. You know, it 729 00:28:20,032 --> 00:28:22,399 Period of of life. You know, it allowed me to move out of my 730 00:28:22,401 --> 00:28:23,433 Allowed me to move out of my mother's house, you know, and 731 00:28:23,435 --> 00:28:24,835 Mother's house, you know, and it allowed me to move her out 732 00:28:24,837 --> 00:28:27,370 It allowed me to move her out of her house and into someplace 733 00:28:27,372 --> 00:28:27,838 Of her house and into someplace really nice. 734 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,239 Really nice. Luther eventually became 735 00:28:29,241 --> 00:28:31,675 luther eventually became like one of the number one 736 00:28:31,677 --> 00:28:33,243 Like one of the number one background singers for 737 00:28:33,245 --> 00:28:33,910 Background singers for commercials and also for 738 00:28:33,912 --> 00:28:35,846 Commercials and also for records 739 00:28:37,415 --> 00:28:40,651 Oh. For so long, strange was a 740 00:28:40,653 --> 00:28:43,220 for so long, strange was a studio group. It was us singing 741 00:28:43,222 --> 00:28:43,987 Studio group. It was us singing background, luther singing lead 742 00:28:43,989 --> 00:28:47,091 Background, luther singing lead on a few things. Luther went in 743 00:28:47,093 --> 00:28:48,792 On a few things. Luther went in and sang searching and glow of 744 00:28:48,794 --> 00:28:51,194 And sang searching and glow of love in one take and nailed it. 745 00:28:51,196 --> 00:28:51,928 Love in one take and nailed it. The producers heard me 746 00:28:51,930 --> 00:28:53,063 the producers heard me singing in the background and 747 00:28:53,065 --> 00:28:54,865 Singing in the background and they asked me, you know, if I 748 00:28:54,867 --> 00:28:56,399 They asked me, you know, if I would sing the lead or audition 749 00:28:56,401 --> 00:28:57,934 Would sing the lead or audition for the lead. We are one. 750 00:28:57,936 --> 00:28:59,870 For the lead. We are one. Having fun walking in the glow 751 00:28:59,872 --> 00:29:02,106 Having fun walking in the glow of love, soul searching and 752 00:29:02,108 --> 00:29:04,407 Of love, soul searching and glow of love went on to become 753 00:29:04,409 --> 00:29:05,542 Glow of love went on to become big records, and they wanted 754 00:29:05,544 --> 00:29:07,077 Big records, and they wanted luther to be officially become 755 00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:07,544 Luther to be officially become the. 756 00:29:07,546 --> 00:29:09,513 The. The lead singer of the 757 00:29:09,515 --> 00:29:10,413 the lead singer of the group. But luther's contention 758 00:29:10,415 --> 00:29:12,249 Group. But luther's contention was that I am a writer and a 759 00:29:12,251 --> 00:29:13,650 Was that I am a writer and a producer. I want to write and 760 00:29:13,652 --> 00:29:14,718 Producer. I want to write and produce my own songs. I don't 761 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:15,886 Produce my own songs. I don't want to be just the lead singer 762 00:29:15,888 --> 00:29:18,255 Want to be just the lead singer of your group while you feed me 763 00:29:18,257 --> 00:29:20,090 Of your group while you feed me songs, you know? So he kept 764 00:29:20,092 --> 00:29:21,358 Songs, you know? So he kept writing, he kept singing, he 765 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,894 Writing, he kept singing, he kept doing his own 766 00:29:24,863 --> 00:29:26,963 Thing. Roberta flack heard luther 767 00:29:26,965 --> 00:29:28,498 roberta flack heard luther and said, listen, I'm doing 768 00:29:28,500 --> 00:29:31,001 And said, listen, I'm doing gigs. I'm doing I know you do 769 00:29:31,003 --> 00:29:32,068 Gigs. I'm doing I know you do sessions during the week, but 770 00:29:32,070 --> 00:29:34,905 Sessions during the week, but maybe you'll come out with me 771 00:29:34,907 --> 00:29:37,641 Maybe you'll come out with me on the weekend, strolling in 772 00:29:37,643 --> 00:29:40,244 On the weekend, strolling in the park, watching winter 773 00:29:41,579 --> 00:29:46,683 Turns to spring. Walking in the dark. Seeing 774 00:29:46,685 --> 00:29:49,252 walking in the dark. Seeing lovers 775 00:29:52,757 --> 00:29:58,757 Do their thing. Ooh, that's the time I feel like making love to 776 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:02,499 Time I feel like making love to you. 777 00:30:02,501 --> 00:30:02,632 You. 778 00:30:02,834 --> 00:30:05,635 Making love to you. That's the time. 779 00:30:05,637 --> 00:30:05,769 The time. 780 00:30:05,937 --> 00:30:11,937 I feel like making dreams come true. Oh, baby. 781 00:30:14,947 --> 00:30:16,613 Come true. Oh, baby. I used to sing background 782 00:30:16,615 --> 00:30:19,583 I used to sing background vocals for roberta flack on the 783 00:30:19,585 --> 00:30:20,951 Vocals for roberta flack on the road. And roberta sometimes 784 00:30:20,953 --> 00:30:22,419 Road. And roberta sometimes would have interviews, and 785 00:30:22,421 --> 00:30:23,787 Would have interviews, and sometimes she'd be unable to 786 00:30:23,789 --> 00:30:25,655 Sometimes she'd be unable to show up at soundchecks. So I 787 00:30:25,657 --> 00:30:27,557 Show up at soundchecks. So I would sing her songs for her in 788 00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:30,293 Would sing her songs for her in soundchecks to test her 789 00:30:30,295 --> 00:30:31,361 Soundchecks to test her microphone. Making love to you. 790 00:30:31,363 --> 00:30:33,964 Microphone. Making love to you. I feel like making love to 791 00:30:33,966 --> 00:30:36,066 I feel like making love to you. That's the time. 792 00:30:36,068 --> 00:30:37,167 You. That's the time. What happened is that one 793 00:30:37,169 --> 00:30:39,302 what happened is that one day she had come back to the 794 00:30:39,304 --> 00:30:41,071 Day she had come back to the theater and I was singing, and 795 00:30:41,073 --> 00:30:43,707 Theater and I was singing, and she came over to me and she 796 00:30:43,709 --> 00:30:46,176 She came over to me and she said, you know, you're getting 797 00:30:46,178 --> 00:30:46,777 Said, you know, you're getting a little too comfortable 798 00:30:46,779 --> 00:30:47,543 A little too comfortable sitting on this stool in the 799 00:30:47,545 --> 00:30:48,745 Sitting on this stool in the background singing oohs and 800 00:30:48,747 --> 00:30:51,047 Background singing oohs and ahs. I really want you to make 801 00:30:51,049 --> 00:30:51,782 Ahs. I really want you to make your own statement and make 802 00:30:51,784 --> 00:30:54,351 Your own statement and make your own record, you know? And 803 00:30:54,353 --> 00:30:55,452 Your own record, you know? And she, in effect, fired me. 804 00:30:55,454 --> 00:30:56,953 She, in effect, fired me. Luther vandross likes to say 805 00:30:56,955 --> 00:30:58,688 luther vandross likes to say that I fired him, but I never 806 00:30:58,690 --> 00:31:00,224 That I fired him, but I never really fired him. What I did 807 00:31:00,226 --> 00:31:02,993 Really fired him. What I did was to encourage him to believe 808 00:31:02,995 --> 00:31:04,828 Was to encourage him to believe in his own ability to produce 809 00:31:04,830 --> 00:31:07,731 In his own ability to produce his first album. 810 00:31:07,733 --> 00:31:08,465 His first album. All the monies that he was 811 00:31:08,467 --> 00:31:11,001 all the monies that he was making from a hugely lucrative 812 00:31:11,003 --> 00:31:12,569 Making from a hugely lucrative recording career as a sideman. 813 00:31:12,571 --> 00:31:14,905 Recording career as a sideman. He was putting back into going 814 00:31:14,907 --> 00:31:16,172 He was putting back into going into the studio and creating 815 00:31:16,174 --> 00:31:18,575 Into the studio and creating his records. 816 00:31:18,577 --> 00:31:19,309 His records. Luther said, hey man, I want 817 00:31:19,311 --> 00:31:20,744 luther said, hey man, I want to make a demo for my own 818 00:31:20,746 --> 00:31:23,647 To make a demo for my own music. And I was like, why 819 00:31:23,649 --> 00:31:24,648 Music. And I was like, why would you want to take all the 820 00:31:24,650 --> 00:31:25,816 Would you want to take all the headaches of being an artist? 821 00:31:25,818 --> 00:31:27,451 Headaches of being an artist? You know, your number one 822 00:31:27,453 --> 00:31:28,252 You know, your number one background singer in new york 823 00:31:28,254 --> 00:31:29,953 Background singer in new york city? No, I have a sound in my 824 00:31:29,955 --> 00:31:31,855 City? No, I have a sound in my head and I got to get it out. 825 00:31:31,857 --> 00:31:34,491 Head and I got to get it out. So we went in the studio Sunday 826 00:31:34,493 --> 00:31:35,325 So we went in the studio Sunday morning because that was the 827 00:31:35,327 --> 00:31:37,894 Morning because that was the only time he could get studio 828 00:31:37,896 --> 00:31:38,395 Only time he could get studio time. 829 00:31:38,397 --> 00:31:39,763 Time. Everybody played on spec. 830 00:31:39,765 --> 00:31:41,097 Everybody played on spec. Marcus miller, nat adderley, 831 00:31:41,099 --> 00:31:43,267 Marcus miller, nat adderley, junior, you know, all the 832 00:31:43,269 --> 00:31:44,134 Junior, you know, all the musicians, cissy houston, all 833 00:31:44,136 --> 00:31:44,901 Musicians, cissy houston, all the singers they all sang with 834 00:31:44,903 --> 00:31:47,271 The singers they all sang with for no money. 835 00:31:47,273 --> 00:31:48,939 For no money. Nat says, okay, here's how 836 00:31:48,941 --> 00:31:51,574 nat says, okay, here's how it goes, fellas. Boom boom boom 837 00:31:51,576 --> 00:31:54,711 It goes, fellas. Boom boom boom boom boom boom boom. I'm just 838 00:31:54,713 --> 00:31:57,247 Boom boom boom boom. I'm just reading boom boom boom boom 839 00:31:57,249 --> 00:31:58,581 Reading boom boom boom boom boom boom boom. This is a 840 00:31:58,583 --> 00:32:01,118 Boom boom boom. This is a quirky little bass line 841 00:32:04,956 --> 00:32:09,259 All the record companies passed on me, turned me down, 842 00:32:09,261 --> 00:32:11,728 On me, turned me down, including cbs, including epic, 843 00:32:11,730 --> 00:32:12,529 Including cbs, including epic, including epic and columbia. 844 00:32:12,531 --> 00:32:13,129 Including epic and columbia. Separately, as a matter of 845 00:32:13,131 --> 00:32:15,198 separately, as a matter of fact. 846 00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:20,170 And I went back to a different person at epic with 847 00:32:20,172 --> 00:32:21,604 Different person at epic with never too much. That was my 848 00:32:21,606 --> 00:32:23,307 Never too much. That was my song, and that's how I got 849 00:32:23,309 --> 00:32:24,975 Song, and that's how I got signed. I can't feel myself. 850 00:32:24,977 --> 00:32:26,843 Signed. I can't feel myself. I don't want nobody else to 851 00:32:26,845 --> 00:32:28,611 I don't want nobody else to ever love me. 852 00:32:28,613 --> 00:32:30,447 Ever love me. You are my shining star, my 853 00:32:30,449 --> 00:32:32,482 you are my shining star, my guiding light, my love fantasy. 854 00:32:32,484 --> 00:32:34,284 Guiding light, my love fantasy. There's not a minute, hour, 855 00:32:34,286 --> 00:32:36,086 There's not a minute, hour, day or night that I don't love 856 00:32:36,088 --> 00:32:39,456 Day or night that I don't love you. You're at the top of my 857 00:32:39,458 --> 00:32:39,923 You. You're at the top of my list. 858 00:32:39,925 --> 00:32:41,491 List. Cause I'm always thinking 859 00:32:41,493 --> 00:32:43,093 cause I'm always thinking of you I still remember in the 860 00:32:43,095 --> 00:32:44,294 Of you I still remember in the days when I was scared to touch 861 00:32:44,296 --> 00:32:48,098 Days when I was scared to touch you. How I spend my day 862 00:32:48,100 --> 00:32:49,699 You. How I spend my day dreaming. Planning how to say I 863 00:32:49,701 --> 00:32:51,634 Dreaming. Planning how to say I love you. You must have known 864 00:32:51,636 --> 00:32:52,936 Love you. You must have known that I had feelings deep enough 865 00:32:52,938 --> 00:32:54,804 That I had feelings deep enough to swim in. That's when you 866 00:32:54,806 --> 00:32:56,206 To swim in. That's when you opened up your heart. And you 867 00:32:56,208 --> 00:33:00,644 Opened up your heart. And you told me to come in. Oh my 868 00:33:01,245 --> 00:33:07,017 Love. A thousand kisses from you. 869 00:33:07,019 --> 00:33:08,485 You. I remember one take. 870 00:33:08,487 --> 00:33:10,120 I remember one take. It was just so easy to play. 871 00:33:10,122 --> 00:33:13,123 It was just so easy to play. Simple. I mean, we knew what we 872 00:33:13,125 --> 00:33:14,358 Simple. I mean, we knew what we were doing and I thought it was 873 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,360 Were doing and I thought it was great. I was like, wow, this 874 00:33:16,362 --> 00:33:17,861 Great. I was like, wow, this sounded so different than 875 00:33:17,863 --> 00:33:18,628 Sounded so different than everything on the radio. But I 876 00:33:18,630 --> 00:33:20,990 Everything on the radio. But I didn't hear that it was going 877 00:33:21,132 --> 00:33:25,335 To be a hit. A million days in your arms is two grammy 878 00:33:25,337 --> 00:33:26,336 Your arms is two grammy nominations big hit song that 879 00:33:26,338 --> 00:33:28,238 Nominations big hit song that he had remained on the charts 880 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,141 He had remained on the charts for 84 weeks. 881 00:33:31,143 --> 00:33:31,874 For 84 weeks. Luther vandross never too 882 00:33:31,876 --> 00:33:34,878 luther vandross never too much, never too much, never too 883 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,514 Much, never too much, never too much, never too much 884 00:33:43,021 --> 00:33:48,392 When I heard never too much, I instantly recognized it as 885 00:33:48,394 --> 00:33:49,759 Instantly recognized it as being original, and he was wise 886 00:33:49,761 --> 00:33:51,761 Being original, and he was wise enough to know how to stand out 887 00:33:51,763 --> 00:33:56,099 Enough to know how to stand out and to have a hook that we 888 00:33:56,101 --> 00:33:56,732 And to have a hook that we wouldn't forget. 889 00:33:56,734 --> 00:33:58,835 Wouldn't forget. I just don't 890 00:33:59,170 --> 00:34:02,339 Want to stop. Oh. My 891 00:34:04,709 --> 00:34:06,977 My love, my love, love love love love. 892 00:34:06,979 --> 00:34:07,877 Love love. I can exactly weren't sure. 893 00:34:07,879 --> 00:34:08,544 I can exactly weren't sure. But man, when that thing hit 894 00:34:08,546 --> 00:34:09,179 But man, when that thing hit the airwaves, everybody else 895 00:34:09,181 --> 00:34:10,113 The airwaves, everybody else was sure. Never too much was on 896 00:34:10,115 --> 00:34:12,982 Was sure. Never too much was on the radio all day long, and 897 00:34:13,217 --> 00:34:14,517 Relief. Absolutely free. Listen to chasing life with 898 00:34:14,519 --> 00:34:16,452 listen to chasing life with me, doctor sanjay gupta, 899 00:34:16,454 --> 00:34:19,022 Me, doctor sanjay gupta, wherever you get your 900 00:34:19,256 --> 00:34:24,661 Podcasts. Look here. Roll back the rug. 901 00:34:24,895 --> 00:34:27,130 Everybody. Move all the tables and 902 00:34:27,132 --> 00:34:32,736 move all the tables and chairs we're going to have us 903 00:34:32,738 --> 00:34:35,071 Chairs we're going to have us a good time tonight. 904 00:34:35,073 --> 00:34:35,739 A good time tonight. You are cranking up there in 905 00:34:35,741 --> 00:34:36,272 you are cranking up there in the charts. 906 00:34:36,274 --> 00:34:37,073 The charts. Yes. Number one with a 907 00:34:37,075 --> 00:34:39,909 yes. Number one with a bullet in billboard. See you 908 00:34:39,911 --> 00:34:40,377 Bullet in billboard. See you there. 909 00:34:40,379 --> 00:34:41,277 There. Moving up five notches. 910 00:34:41,279 --> 00:34:43,346 Moving up five notches. Second week in the countdown. 911 00:34:43,348 --> 00:34:45,281 Second week in the countdown. Here's luther vandross with 912 00:34:45,283 --> 00:34:47,884 Here's luther vandross with his third top 40 hit. Hey, 913 00:34:47,886 --> 00:34:48,351 His third top 40 hit. Hey, look. 914 00:34:48,353 --> 00:34:49,786 Look. Now, every night when I 915 00:34:49,788 --> 00:34:53,656 now, every night when I sleep, I dream of my baby. 916 00:34:53,658 --> 00:34:54,257 Sleep, I dream of my baby. She's such a lady. 917 00:34:54,259 --> 00:34:55,024 She's such a lady. He has been praised as the 918 00:34:55,026 --> 00:34:56,358 he has been praised as the most promising all around pop 919 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,429 Most promising all around pop soul craftsman to emerge in the 920 00:34:59,431 --> 00:35:01,097 Soul craftsman to emerge in the 80s. The man I'm referring to 921 00:35:01,099 --> 00:35:03,233 80s. The man I'm referring to is luther vandross, singer 922 00:35:03,235 --> 00:35:04,033 Is luther vandross, singer songwriter producer arranger 923 00:35:04,035 --> 00:35:05,768 Songwriter producer arranger whose latest album has recently 924 00:35:05,770 --> 00:35:08,337 Whose latest album has recently gone platinum. I'm all by to 925 00:35:08,339 --> 00:35:08,938 Gone platinum. I'm all by to my baby comes home. 926 00:35:08,940 --> 00:35:10,139 My baby comes home. You know somebody who has 927 00:35:10,141 --> 00:35:12,675 you know somebody who has some money to spend lives here. 928 00:35:12,677 --> 00:35:14,811 Some money to spend lives here. This is one spectacular house, 929 00:35:14,813 --> 00:35:19,983 This is one spectacular house, right? Baby? 930 00:35:19,985 --> 00:35:22,285 Right? Baby? It was the most exciting 931 00:35:22,287 --> 00:35:24,153 it was the most exciting time in the world. So, I mean, 932 00:35:24,155 --> 00:35:26,423 Time in the world. So, I mean, my head, my heart, everything 933 00:35:26,425 --> 00:35:28,591 My head, my heart, everything was immersed in this business. 934 00:35:28,593 --> 00:35:29,392 Was immersed in this business. Luther has released four 935 00:35:29,394 --> 00:35:31,928 luther has released four albums and all of them 936 00:35:32,129 --> 00:35:34,897 Platinum. The. Baby, I'm all right, all right. 937 00:35:34,899 --> 00:35:35,598 Right, all right. It's not only his voice 938 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,366 it's not only his voice that's made him a superstar, 939 00:35:37,368 --> 00:35:39,836 That's made him a superstar, he's also a 940 00:35:40,071 --> 00:35:41,671 Gifted producer, arranger, and composer. He's been behind some 941 00:35:41,673 --> 00:35:45,608 Composer. He's been behind some of the great hit songs of david 942 00:35:45,610 --> 00:35:47,077 Of the great hit songs of david bowie, aretha franklin and my 943 00:35:47,079 --> 00:35:47,610 Bowie, aretha franklin and my baby calls. 944 00:35:47,612 --> 00:35:49,712 Baby calls. I gotta jump to it. 945 00:35:49,714 --> 00:35:51,714 I gotta jump to it. One of the the most exciting 946 00:35:51,716 --> 00:35:53,149 one of the the most exciting moments I have ever had is the 947 00:35:53,151 --> 00:35:55,151 Moments I have ever had is the day that I met aretha franklin. 948 00:35:55,153 --> 00:35:57,820 Day that I met aretha franklin. I jump, jump, jump, jump. 949 00:35:57,822 --> 00:35:59,022 I jump, jump, jump, jump. A lot of people to this day 950 00:35:59,024 --> 00:36:00,857 a lot of people to this day don't realize that he wrote 951 00:36:00,859 --> 00:36:04,861 Don't realize that he wrote those songs. He was a fantastic 952 00:36:04,863 --> 00:36:06,863 Those songs. He was a fantastic songwriter who became a great 953 00:36:06,865 --> 00:36:07,730 Songwriter who became a great artist and then who became a 954 00:36:07,732 --> 00:36:11,167 Artist and then who became a great performer. She was just a 955 00:36:11,169 --> 00:36:11,701 Great performer. She was just a triple threat. 956 00:36:12,002 --> 00:36:13,736 Thank you very much. I'd like to thank my producer, mr. 957 00:36:13,738 --> 00:36:17,840 Like to thank my producer, mr. Luther vandross. Yes, ma'am. 958 00:36:17,842 --> 00:36:19,442 Luther vandross. Yes, ma'am. Was it a thrill having had 959 00:36:19,444 --> 00:36:21,177 was it a thrill having had those people as your idols to 960 00:36:21,179 --> 00:36:22,845 Those people as your idols to produce their records? 961 00:36:22,847 --> 00:36:24,213 Produce their records? Oh, the biggest thrill in my 962 00:36:24,215 --> 00:36:25,982 oh, the biggest thrill in my life was was meeting and 963 00:36:25,984 --> 00:36:27,984 Life was was meeting and working with aretha and dionne. 964 00:36:27,986 --> 00:36:30,019 Working with aretha and dionne. And how many times can we 965 00:36:30,021 --> 00:36:32,588 and how many times can we give it one more 966 00:36:32,856 --> 00:36:35,658 Try? 967 00:36:37,328 --> 00:36:39,829 Before we. Really? 968 00:36:41,499 --> 00:36:44,066 Say goodbye and you sing. You get over luther 969 00:36:44,068 --> 00:36:45,535 you get over luther vandross, a big kentucky fried 970 00:36:45,537 --> 00:36:48,070 Vandross, a big kentucky fried chicken eating 971 00:36:49,006 --> 00:36:52,241 But he put his on. 972 00:36:53,177 --> 00:36:55,478 Beyoncรฉ bowl women go, everybody is saying, oh, did 973 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:56,179 Everybody is saying, oh, did you hear what eddie murphy 974 00:36:56,181 --> 00:36:57,213 You hear what eddie murphy said? I said, yeah, I love it. 975 00:36:57,215 --> 00:36:58,314 Said? I said, yeah, I love it. I think it's great. You know, 976 00:36:58,316 --> 00:36:59,482 I think it's great. You know, you have to know how to play 977 00:36:59,484 --> 00:37:01,317 You have to know how to play the game. 978 00:37:01,319 --> 00:37:02,251 The game. If you're going to have a 979 00:37:02,253 --> 00:37:04,921 if you're going to have a party, you got to party hearty. 980 00:37:04,923 --> 00:37:06,489 Party, you got to party hearty. You got to do this thing 981 00:37:06,491 --> 00:37:07,023 you got to do this thing right. 982 00:37:07,025 --> 00:37:09,091 Right. You know what 983 00:37:09,326 --> 00:37:11,294 I'm saying? Woo! The reason I did this is 984 00:37:11,296 --> 00:37:12,896 the reason I did this is because I had looked on the 985 00:37:12,898 --> 00:37:14,263 Because I had looked on the guest list to see who was 986 00:37:14,265 --> 00:37:16,766 Guest list to see who was coming, and I saw 987 00:37:17,034 --> 00:37:19,068 Eddie's name. That's when I got the idea. I said, we gotta 988 00:37:19,070 --> 00:37:19,936 Got the idea. I said, we gotta we have to address this. This 989 00:37:19,938 --> 00:37:21,704 We have to address this. This is going to be so funny. 990 00:37:21,706 --> 00:37:22,772 Is going to be so funny. There's been a lot of talk 991 00:37:22,774 --> 00:37:25,542 There's been a lot of talk going on about me lately. 992 00:37:25,544 --> 00:37:27,910 Going on about me lately. Don't think I don't know 993 00:37:27,912 --> 00:37:29,245 Don't think I don't know about it. And I didn't want to 994 00:37:29,247 --> 00:37:30,413 About it. And I didn't want to let eddie murphy down, you know 995 00:37:30,415 --> 00:37:32,949 Let eddie murphy down, you know what I'm 996 00:37:34,051 --> 00:37:37,120 Saying? Ooh, 997 00:37:37,354 --> 00:37:42,625 We're america's favorite. But after bite, tender and 998 00:37:42,627 --> 00:37:45,562 but after bite, tender and juicy, we do it right for you. 999 00:37:45,564 --> 00:37:49,932 Juicy, we do it right for you. Yeah luther had been dealing 1000 00:37:49,934 --> 00:37:50,733 Yeah luther had been dealing with this weight thing forever. 1001 00:37:50,735 --> 00:37:52,569 With this weight thing forever. He was at his best in terms 1002 00:37:52,571 --> 00:37:55,404 he was at his best in terms of his humor. When. When he 1003 00:37:57,908 --> 00:38:00,643 Got attacked or. Or there's a situation that was difficult 1004 00:38:00,645 --> 00:38:03,346 Situation that was difficult for him. His humor got him 1005 00:38:04,014 --> 00:38:08,551 Through. But it was hard for him with him, it 1006 00:38:09,420 --> 00:38:13,188 Was all or nothing at all. 1007 00:38:13,390 --> 00:38:18,294 He was either eating or he was dieting. And I used to just 1008 00:38:18,296 --> 00:38:21,231 Was dieting. And I used to just say, just do it when you're 1009 00:38:21,233 --> 00:38:22,599 Say, just do it when you're ready, you know? But he he felt 1010 00:38:22,601 --> 00:38:23,933 Ready, you know? But he he felt like this was something that he 1011 00:38:23,935 --> 00:38:28,771 Like this was something that he had to do, you know, to be 1012 00:38:28,773 --> 00:38:29,638 Had to do, you know, to be accepted. What's there to say? 1013 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,441 Accepted. What's there to say? There's 1014 00:38:31,708 --> 00:38:37,708 Not much to talk about. And whatever happened to all of the 1015 00:38:39,317 --> 00:38:39,782 Whatever happened to all of the love that we had? 1016 00:38:39,784 --> 00:38:39,982 Love that we had? 1017 00:38:40,150 --> 00:38:44,320 Well, you have lost so much weight. 1018 00:38:44,322 --> 00:38:46,956 Weight. You looks you have lost 1019 00:38:47,424 --> 00:38:48,557 How much? 126 pounds. 1020 00:38:48,559 --> 00:38:49,292 126 pounds. Someone was just saying over 1021 00:38:49,294 --> 00:38:50,026 someone was just saying over there when they saw you sit 1022 00:38:50,028 --> 00:38:50,726 There when they saw you sit down, they said, who's that? 1023 00:38:50,728 --> 00:38:51,494 Down, they said, who's that? And I said, it's luther 1024 00:38:51,496 --> 00:38:52,262 And I said, it's luther vandross. And they said, no, 1025 00:38:52,264 --> 00:38:54,163 Vandross. And they said, no, no, no. He's about 150 pounds 1026 00:38:54,165 --> 00:38:55,731 No, no. He's about 150 pounds heavier than that. 1027 00:38:55,733 --> 00:38:56,666 Heavier than that. I'm sure they want to know 1028 00:38:56,668 --> 00:38:57,900 I'm sure they want to know who your diet doctor is. The 1029 00:38:57,902 --> 00:39:00,703 Who your diet doctor is. The diet doctor, if anybody is, is, 1030 00:39:00,705 --> 00:39:04,373 Diet doctor, if anybody is, is, uh, gianni versace. I was an 1031 00:39:04,375 --> 00:39:06,142 Uh, gianni versace. I was an emotional eater. If something 1032 00:39:06,144 --> 00:39:07,877 Emotional eater. If something if the music wasn't sounding 1033 00:39:07,879 --> 00:39:08,911 If the music wasn't sounding right, I ate to cope any little 1034 00:39:08,913 --> 00:39:11,013 Right, I ate to cope any little excuse that I could use, I 1035 00:39:11,015 --> 00:39:14,350 Excuse that I could use, I would use to eat. And, um, I 1036 00:39:14,352 --> 00:39:15,652 Would use to eat. And, um, I just decided not to not to do 1037 00:39:15,654 --> 00:39:18,187 Just decided not to not to do that. You 1038 00:39:18,789 --> 00:39:21,157 Know, I just decided that that that was not right for me. Give 1039 00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:23,826 That was not right for me. Give me the reason I want you back. 1040 00:39:23,828 --> 00:39:27,297 Me the reason I want you back. And why should I love you 1041 00:39:27,299 --> 00:39:27,830 and why should I love you again? 1042 00:39:27,832 --> 00:39:28,831 Again? You know, I feel better, you 1043 00:39:28,833 --> 00:39:31,834 you know, I feel better, you know, on stage, I move more. 1044 00:39:31,836 --> 00:39:33,146 Know, on stage, I move more. Now, let's just say on 1045 00:39:33,170 --> 00:39:37,874 Stage I move now, whereas I didn't before. And it hasn't 1046 00:39:37,876 --> 00:39:40,176 Didn't before. And it hasn't affected my voice or my singing 1047 00:39:40,178 --> 00:39:42,712 Affected my voice or my singing at all. 1048 00:39:44,081 --> 00:39:48,251 Back in the day, if you wanted to fall in love, you let luther 1049 00:39:48,253 --> 00:39:52,322 To fall in love, you let luther do the work for you. So I would 1050 00:39:52,324 --> 00:39:54,090 Do the work for you. So I would put the phone up to the radio. 1051 00:39:54,092 --> 00:39:54,924 Put the phone up to the radio. And what's crazy is you had to 1052 00:39:54,926 --> 00:39:56,058 And what's crazy is you had to wait for it to come on the 1053 00:39:56,060 --> 00:39:58,461 Wait for it to come on the radio, so I had to keep I'm 1054 00:39:58,463 --> 00:39:59,696 Radio, so I had to keep I'm buying time until it came. And 1055 00:39:59,698 --> 00:40:01,063 Buying time until it came. And here's luther vandross. Oh, 1056 00:40:01,065 --> 00:40:02,798 Here's luther vandross. Oh, perfect. And I put the phone up 1057 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:03,499 Perfect. And I put the phone up to the radio, and I tell her 1058 00:40:03,501 --> 00:40:05,268 To the radio, and I tell her this is what I want to tell. 1059 00:40:05,270 --> 00:40:07,870 This is what I want to tell. Tell you. Let 1060 00:40:08,172 --> 00:40:11,274 Me hold you tight. 1061 00:40:11,875 --> 00:40:17,875 If only for one night. 1062 00:40:18,248 --> 00:40:24,248 Let me keep you. Need ease. Now that you're feeling it, go 1063 00:40:24,889 --> 00:40:29,959 That you're feeling it, go right back. To your fear. And I 1064 00:40:29,961 --> 00:40:30,793 Right back. To your fear. And I can honestly say ten out of 1065 00:40:30,795 --> 00:40:31,894 Can honestly say ten out of ten. 100 times out of 100 1066 00:40:31,896 --> 00:40:34,263 Ten. 100 times out of 100 times. I put that luther on 1067 00:40:34,265 --> 00:40:36,098 Times. I put that luther on him. It is what it is. All 1068 00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:38,100 Him. It is what it is. All night. The one night of your. 1069 00:40:38,102 --> 00:40:40,770 Night. The one night of your. Love, of your 1070 00:40:40,971 --> 00:40:45,841 Love, of your. Love, your love. 1071 00:40:47,710 --> 00:40:50,679 He did that thing. He does. Woo woo woo. 1072 00:40:50,681 --> 00:40:51,480 Woo woo woo. That's what they think of 1073 00:40:51,482 --> 00:40:52,815 that's what they think of you as. Because you send folks 1074 00:40:52,817 --> 00:40:55,451 You as. Because you send folks to the 1075 00:40:55,619 --> 00:41:01,619 Bedroom one. Look in your eyes and there I see you want to 1076 00:41:02,460 --> 00:41:03,459 And there I see you want to give these lovely ladies a 1077 00:41:03,461 --> 00:41:04,761 Give these lovely ladies a little preview of what a date 1078 00:41:04,763 --> 00:41:06,162 Little preview of what a date would be like with you. 1079 00:41:06,164 --> 00:41:09,031 Would be like with you. Oh, let me, let me run it by 1080 00:41:09,033 --> 00:41:10,833 oh, let me, let me run it by you. First. We'll sail out on 1081 00:41:10,835 --> 00:41:13,669 You. First. We'll sail out on my private yacht. You know, all 1082 00:41:13,671 --> 00:41:16,272 My private yacht. You know, all alone under the stars. I've 1083 00:41:16,274 --> 00:41:18,141 Alone under the stars. I've been fantasizing about you and 1084 00:41:18,143 --> 00:41:19,942 Been fantasizing about you and kissing your picture and stuff. 1085 00:41:19,944 --> 00:41:22,478 Kissing your picture and stuff. You look like you've been 1086 00:41:22,946 --> 00:41:27,216 Kissing a weed whacker. I look in your eyes, so they call you 1087 00:41:27,218 --> 00:41:28,350 In your eyes, so they call you doctor love. Now you let me 1088 00:41:28,352 --> 00:41:29,585 Doctor love. Now you let me tell you something. I don't 1089 00:41:29,587 --> 00:41:30,653 Tell you something. I don't really take that title. I want 1090 00:41:30,655 --> 00:41:33,122 Really take that title. I want to be remembered as a premier 1091 00:41:33,124 --> 00:41:34,357 To be remembered as a premier singer of our day, all right? 1092 00:41:34,359 --> 00:41:38,628 Singer of our day, all right? Not as the love doctor. The 1093 00:41:38,829 --> 00:41:43,833 Love that we share. Makes light. Because he was 1094 00:41:43,835 --> 00:41:45,868 makes light. Because he was so, so into the singing aspect 1095 00:41:45,870 --> 00:41:47,170 So, so into the singing aspect of things. He didn't want that 1096 00:41:47,172 --> 00:41:51,040 Of things. He didn't want that to be all you. You got out of 1097 00:41:51,042 --> 00:41:51,707 To be all you. You got out of the musical experience of 1098 00:41:51,709 --> 00:41:55,044 The musical experience of seeing him. So he would talk us 1099 00:41:55,046 --> 00:41:55,778 Seeing him. So he would talk us down from it, but they were 1100 00:41:55,780 --> 00:41:58,347 Down from it, but they were still running to the 1101 00:41:58,982 --> 00:42:02,151 Bedroom. Here 1102 00:42:03,020 --> 00:42:06,322 And. Now. I 1103 00:42:07,324 --> 00:42:13,324 Promise to love faithfully he was your 1104 00:42:16,166 --> 00:42:19,335 Love is all. I. 1105 00:42:20,904 --> 00:42:24,073 Need. Nine. 1106 00:42:30,681 --> 00:42:31,914 And I keep getting the 1107 00:42:33,349 --> 00:42:35,250 the whole story with anderson cooper Sunday at 8:00 1108 00:42:35,252 --> 00:42:37,853 Anderson cooper Sunday at 8:00 on 1109 00:42:38,388 --> 00:42:41,589 Cnn. 1110 00:42:45,928 --> 00:42:47,228 Singer luther vandross was driving in north hollywood 1111 00:42:47,230 --> 00:42:48,330 Driving in north hollywood Sunday when his mercedes jumped 1112 00:42:48,332 --> 00:42:50,198 Sunday when his mercedes jumped the divider and collided with 1113 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,233 The divider and collided with two oncoming cars. 1114 00:42:52,235 --> 00:42:53,768 Two oncoming cars. One person in vandross's car 1115 00:42:53,770 --> 00:42:54,602 one person in vandross's car died. The singer is listed in 1116 00:42:54,604 --> 00:42:56,338 Died. The singer is listed in fair 1117 00:42:56,706 --> 00:42:59,875 Condition tonight with three broken ribs. 1118 00:43:00,609 --> 00:43:02,777 It was very tragic. You know, I was in new york and he 1119 00:43:02,779 --> 00:43:04,779 Know, I was in new york and he was in l.A., where the accident 1120 00:43:04,781 --> 00:43:05,981 Was in l.A., where the accident happened. And I was talking to 1121 00:43:05,983 --> 00:43:08,883 Happened. And I was talking to him in the hospital, and I 1122 00:43:08,885 --> 00:43:10,785 Him in the hospital, and I said, man, are you okay? He 1123 00:43:10,787 --> 00:43:12,587 Said, man, are you okay? He said, yeah, I'm good, man. I'm 1124 00:43:12,589 --> 00:43:15,390 Said, yeah, I'm good, man. I'm good. I said, man, you need me 1125 00:43:15,392 --> 00:43:16,124 Good. I said, man, you need me to come out. You know, that's 1126 00:43:16,126 --> 00:43:16,991 To come out. You know, that's what we all say. You know, when 1127 00:43:16,993 --> 00:43:18,293 What we all say. You know, when something happens, you know? He 1128 00:43:18,295 --> 00:43:19,194 Something happens, you know? He said, actually, yeah. It's the 1129 00:43:19,196 --> 00:43:20,095 Said, actually, yeah. It's the first time somebody ever said, 1130 00:43:20,097 --> 00:43:21,096 First time somebody ever said, yeah, actually, yeah, I could 1131 00:43:21,098 --> 00:43:26,901 Yeah, actually, yeah, I could use the support, you know. 1132 00:43:26,903 --> 00:43:27,002 Use the support, you know. 1133 00:43:27,236 --> 00:43:31,239 I lost one of my best friends, and I just do not want 1134 00:43:31,241 --> 00:43:33,074 Friends, and I just do not want to get back in touch with that 1135 00:43:33,076 --> 00:43:35,110 To get back in touch with that in terms of doing an interview. 1136 00:43:35,112 --> 00:43:36,244 In terms of doing an interview. And, and really, you know, 1137 00:43:36,246 --> 00:43:37,746 And, and really, you know, talking about the I don't want 1138 00:43:37,748 --> 00:43:40,115 Talking about the I don't want to relive that. That's an 1139 00:43:40,117 --> 00:43:41,816 To relive that. That's an unfortunate thing that, you 1140 00:43:41,818 --> 00:43:44,452 Unfortunate thing that, you know, that I 1141 00:43:45,421 --> 00:43:48,557 Wish had never happened. 1142 00:43:49,392 --> 00:43:52,928 So after he had the car accident, it was a really rough 1143 00:43:52,930 --> 00:43:55,731 Accident, it was a really rough time. But someone was killed in 1144 00:43:55,733 --> 00:43:57,665 Time. But someone was killed in that accident, so it took a 1145 00:43:57,667 --> 00:43:59,834 That accident, so it took a toll on him. And food was his 1146 00:43:59,836 --> 00:44:02,404 Toll on him. And food was his panacea. 1147 00:44:02,605 --> 00:44:05,306 Food was his medicine, he thought he said food has never 1148 00:44:05,308 --> 00:44:07,609 Thought he said food has never let me down. And I said, yes, 1149 00:44:07,611 --> 00:44:10,145 Let me down. And I said, yes, it has. Food 1150 00:44:10,346 --> 00:44:13,181 Is not your friend. 1151 00:44:17,353 --> 00:44:18,653 I was walking down the street and this woman comes up 1152 00:44:18,655 --> 00:44:19,454 Street and this woman comes up to me and she says, you're 1153 00:44:19,456 --> 00:44:20,488 To me and she says, you're going to put it all back on, 1154 00:44:20,490 --> 00:44:23,959 Going to put it all back on, just like luther did, which was 1155 00:44:23,961 --> 00:44:25,594 Just like luther did, which was such a mean thing, you know, 1156 00:44:25,596 --> 00:44:27,896 Such a mean thing, you know, such a mean thing to say. 1157 00:44:27,898 --> 00:44:30,131 Such a mean thing to say. Anyone without the problem 1158 00:44:30,133 --> 00:44:31,866 anyone without the problem may or may not understand the 1159 00:44:31,868 --> 00:44:33,501 May or may not understand the full implication of what it is. 1160 00:44:33,503 --> 00:44:36,137 Full implication of what it is. You know, it's all kinds of 1161 00:44:36,139 --> 00:44:37,005 You know, it's all kinds of things. It's not just eating. 1162 00:44:37,007 --> 00:44:37,739 Things. It's not just eating. It's not the food is 1163 00:44:37,741 --> 00:44:39,207 It's not the food is incidental in it. It is more 1164 00:44:39,209 --> 00:44:41,309 Incidental in it. It is more about your emotional state. 1165 00:44:41,311 --> 00:44:43,745 About your emotional state. Right? Whatever your your 1166 00:44:43,747 --> 00:44:44,545 Right? Whatever your your coping mechanism is, you know, 1167 00:44:44,547 --> 00:44:47,348 Coping mechanism is, you know, if you feel hurt or betrayed 1168 00:44:47,350 --> 00:44:51,119 If you feel hurt or betrayed you. Whether you know it or 1169 00:44:51,454 --> 00:44:52,788 Not, you go. You cope with something. Something you cope 1170 00:44:52,790 --> 00:44:55,557 Something. Something you cope with. You either go to church, 1171 00:44:55,559 --> 00:44:57,626 With. You either go to church, you, you do drugs, you overeat, 1172 00:44:57,628 --> 00:45:00,562 You, you do drugs, you overeat, you do something to cope. 1173 00:45:00,564 --> 00:45:03,398 You do something to cope. We were preparing to tour 1174 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,903 we were preparing to tour and they said, we're going to 1175 00:45:08,738 --> 00:45:13,408 Cancel the tour. But then he decided to go and we gave him 1176 00:45:13,410 --> 00:45:17,012 Decided to go and we gave him so much love he needed to be on 1177 00:45:17,014 --> 00:45:19,014 So much love he needed to be on the road. Even though that had 1178 00:45:19,016 --> 00:45:19,614 The road. Even though that had happened. Mentally. 1179 00:45:19,616 --> 00:45:20,448 Happened. Mentally. And that. And that's exactly 1180 00:45:20,450 --> 00:45:22,016 and that. And that's exactly what we said to him. You need 1181 00:45:22,018 --> 00:45:24,219 What we said to him. You need to come out. 1182 00:45:24,221 --> 00:45:27,222 To come out. And he really felt that, 1183 00:45:27,224 --> 00:45:27,722 and he really felt that, that vibe. 1184 00:45:28,056 --> 00:45:29,925 Can we 1185 00:45:30,225 --> 00:45:33,094 Try this? Kevin? Um, santa here in front of that and you all 1186 00:45:33,096 --> 00:45:34,229 In front of that and you all take a, um, I really would like 1187 00:45:34,231 --> 00:45:35,196 Take a, um, I really would like to give a ride to each. 1188 00:45:35,198 --> 00:45:37,699 To give a ride to each. Now, 1189 00:45:37,900 --> 00:45:39,234 He was a hard taskmaster, which means, you know, when we went 1190 00:45:39,236 --> 00:45:42,237 Means, you know, when we went to rehearsal or when we were 1191 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:43,038 To rehearsal or when we were putting the show together, we 1192 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:43,571 Putting the show together, we really worked. 1193 00:45:43,573 --> 00:45:43,872 Really worked. Right? 1194 00:45:43,874 --> 00:45:44,706 Right? And just. You don't have to 1195 00:45:44,708 --> 00:45:47,242 and just. You don't have to get here at the same time 1196 00:45:47,244 --> 00:45:47,975 Get here at the same time because there's different 1197 00:45:47,977 --> 00:45:48,677 Because there's different distances, you know, to travel. 1198 00:45:48,679 --> 00:45:49,845 Distances, you know, to travel. We wave at you. Was that 1199 00:45:49,847 --> 00:45:51,913 we wave at you. Was that power of love when we walk down 1200 00:45:51,915 --> 00:45:54,249 Power of love when we walk down the street? 1201 00:45:54,251 --> 00:45:54,916 The street? That's this one. 1202 00:45:54,918 --> 00:45:55,783 That's this one. Okay. 1203 00:45:55,785 --> 00:45:56,852 Okay. When we I just need in my 1204 00:45:56,854 --> 00:45:58,053 when we I just need in my head to know where I end and 1205 00:45:58,055 --> 00:46:00,822 Head to know where I end and where to go. 1206 00:46:00,824 --> 00:46:02,057 Where to go. Ten hour days, six days a 1207 00:46:02,059 --> 00:46:03,859 ten hour days, six days a week. That's right. Ten hour 1208 00:46:03,861 --> 00:46:06,394 Week. That's right. Ten hour days. Me and 1209 00:46:06,929 --> 00:46:10,665 Lisa was like, are choreography early? And then we would be 1210 00:46:10,667 --> 00:46:12,133 Early? And then we would be learning it. And then luther 1211 00:46:12,135 --> 00:46:14,602 Learning it. And then luther would come in and sit there and 1212 00:46:14,604 --> 00:46:16,271 Would come in and sit there and watch us do the choreography 1213 00:46:16,273 --> 00:46:17,605 Watch us do the choreography and try to put in, put the 1214 00:46:17,607 --> 00:46:19,440 And try to put in, put the music with it. He'd be like, 1215 00:46:19,442 --> 00:46:21,176 Music with it. He'd be like, excuse me, I'm not playing the 1216 00:46:21,178 --> 00:46:23,545 Excuse me, I'm not playing the lottery. So get it right? 1217 00:46:23,547 --> 00:46:27,749 Lottery. So get it right? That's right. You know, so you 1218 00:46:28,217 --> 00:46:32,954 Have. No one, no one, no one, 1219 00:46:33,489 --> 00:46:36,658 No one, no one, 1220 00:46:37,326 --> 00:46:43,231 No one, no one, no. One, 1221 00:46:46,802 --> 00:46:49,971 No. No. One. 1222 00:46:50,907 --> 00:46:55,109 We got a trailer for lisa when she comes in. 1223 00:46:55,111 --> 00:46:55,577 When she comes in. Right. Okay. 1224 00:46:55,579 --> 00:46:57,011 Right. Okay. He would cast vocally, cast 1225 00:46:57,013 --> 00:47:00,916 he would cast vocally, cast the right people with the right 1226 00:47:01,117 --> 00:47:05,520 Vibration of sound, the right weight in their voice to 1227 00:47:05,522 --> 00:47:06,388 Weight in their voice to complement the other person's 1228 00:47:06,390 --> 00:47:06,788 Complement the other person's voice. 1229 00:47:06,790 --> 00:47:09,123 Voice. It was almost like being a 1230 00:47:09,125 --> 00:47:11,626 it was almost like being a film director for your ears 1231 00:47:12,495 --> 00:47:15,797 The rhythm is. To 1232 00:47:16,465 --> 00:47:22,465 Who? Who? Who. And it goes on a cycle until 1233 00:47:24,141 --> 00:47:24,739 and it goes on a cycle until the band fades out. 1234 00:47:24,741 --> 00:47:27,308 The band fades out. I sure like us going back to 1235 00:47:27,310 --> 00:47:28,977 I sure like us going back to this one again. It's easier. 1236 00:47:28,979 --> 00:47:32,080 This one again. It's easier. Okay, so close your eyes 1237 00:47:32,082 --> 00:47:33,602 okay, so close your eyes closer. And 1238 00:47:34,050 --> 00:47:37,318 You can feel it. The requirement of 1239 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,687 the requirement of perfection and the willingness 1240 00:47:39,689 --> 00:47:44,525 Perfection and the willingness to take whatever time you 1241 00:47:44,527 --> 00:47:47,161 To take whatever time you needed and spend whatever money 1242 00:47:47,163 --> 00:47:48,363 Needed and spend whatever money you needed to accomplish that 1243 00:47:48,365 --> 00:47:50,999 You needed to accomplish that because it's going to be 1244 00:47:51,001 --> 00:47:51,532 Because it's going to be right. 1245 00:47:51,534 --> 00:47:53,668 Right. You got to 1246 00:47:53,869 --> 00:47:58,039 Believe in love. It's feeling at next turn and then stop 1247 00:47:58,041 --> 00:48:00,375 At next turn and then stop until we are one with the power 1248 00:48:00,377 --> 00:48:01,810 Until we are one with the power of love. 1249 00:48:01,812 --> 00:48:02,677 Of love. Tell everyone when you're 1250 00:48:02,679 --> 00:48:03,411 tell everyone when you're out there on the road, man, you 1251 00:48:03,413 --> 00:48:04,545 Out there on the road, man, you know you have your good nights 1252 00:48:04,547 --> 00:48:07,048 Know you have your good nights and your bad nights. No man. 1253 00:48:07,050 --> 00:48:10,585 And your bad nights. No man. Every night, every night he was 1254 00:48:10,587 --> 00:48:12,186 Every night, every night he was nailing it. And he expected 1255 00:48:12,188 --> 00:48:14,689 Nailing it. And he expected everybody to nail it. Also, 1256 00:48:14,923 --> 00:48:18,026 When we walk down the 1257 00:48:18,260 --> 00:48:23,931 Street, we don't care who we see or who meeting don't need 1258 00:48:23,933 --> 00:48:26,901 See or who meeting don't need to run. 1259 00:48:26,903 --> 00:48:28,303 To run. Don't need to hide. Cause 1260 00:48:29,839 --> 00:48:32,774 We've got something burning inside. 1261 00:48:33,009 --> 00:48:35,910 Hey, we've got. Love 1262 00:48:36,111 --> 00:48:41,215 Love, power, power. We all appreciated the witch 1263 00:48:41,217 --> 00:48:42,684 we all appreciated the witch because it was making us 1264 00:48:42,686 --> 00:48:44,152 Because it was making us better. And we saw year after 1265 00:48:44,154 --> 00:48:46,421 Better. And we saw year after year how how we were 1266 00:48:46,423 --> 00:48:47,922 Year how how we were developing. We were ready to 1267 00:48:47,924 --> 00:48:50,224 Developing. We were ready to get up every day and go to work 1268 00:48:50,226 --> 00:48:52,393 Get up every day and go to work for him. I know, I know that 1269 00:48:52,395 --> 00:48:52,861 For him. I know, I know that we've got. 1270 00:48:52,863 --> 00:48:53,862 We've got. Love. We got love with all 1271 00:48:53,864 --> 00:48:55,596 love. We got love with all of the power. Yes, with all of 1272 00:48:55,598 --> 00:48:58,033 Of the power. Yes, with all of the power. The greatest power 1273 00:48:58,035 --> 00:49:00,635 The power. The greatest power of 1274 00:49:01,137 --> 00:49:05,973 Them all. Oh. Love the love, the love power. Somewhere in 1275 00:49:05,975 --> 00:49:10,045 The love power. Somewhere in the world together we can fall 1276 00:49:10,047 --> 00:49:11,346 The world together we can fall I know, I know that we got 1277 00:49:11,348 --> 00:49:11,846 I know, I know that we got love. 1278 00:49:11,848 --> 00:49:12,613 Love. People would say you could 1279 00:49:12,615 --> 00:49:13,915 people would say you could just go on stage with a 1280 00:49:13,917 --> 00:49:14,982 Just go on stage with a flashlight and not spend any 1281 00:49:14,984 --> 00:49:16,351 Flashlight and not spend any money on staging and clothes. 1282 00:49:16,353 --> 00:49:18,986 Money on staging and clothes. And we'd be fine with that. He 1283 00:49:18,988 --> 00:49:21,623 And we'd be fine with that. He wasn't fine with 1284 00:49:39,141 --> 00:49:42,077 Me awake at night. Tossing and turning my. Want a kiss? Wanna 1285 00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:44,079 Turning my. Want a kiss? Wanna hold your soul to. Ooh. But I 1286 00:49:44,081 --> 00:49:46,647 Hold your soul to. Ooh. But I want 1287 00:49:46,882 --> 00:49:52,820 To love. Whether you know or not. When you just hug me away. 1288 00:49:52,822 --> 00:49:55,690 Not. When you just hug me away. Leaving me laying there and 1289 00:49:55,692 --> 00:50:00,228 leaving me laying there and I just want to be the one that 1290 00:50:00,230 --> 00:50:02,130 I just want to be the one that you want to see. 1291 00:50:02,132 --> 00:50:04,099 You want to see. The elegance of those 1292 00:50:04,101 --> 00:50:04,699 the elegance of those dresses. Every dress was 1293 00:50:04,701 --> 00:50:06,067 Dresses. Every dress was hand-beaded and just so 1294 00:50:06,069 --> 00:50:08,937 Hand-beaded and just so beautiful. So beautiful. 1295 00:50:08,939 --> 00:50:11,472 Beautiful. So beautiful. Fly away almost every day. 1296 00:50:11,474 --> 00:50:13,641 Fly away almost every day. You're work a lot. You 1297 00:50:13,643 --> 00:50:18,913 you're work a lot. You never stop to love I love you. 1298 00:50:18,915 --> 00:50:21,516 Never stop to love I love you. Stop, stop. Come 1299 00:50:23,119 --> 00:50:27,922 Home from the road. Gotta stop to love. Yeah. And 1300 00:50:28,157 --> 00:50:31,592 Let's celebrate. Celebrate the love we got. Stop. 1301 00:50:31,594 --> 00:50:32,693 Love we got. Stop. He designed many of the 1302 00:50:32,695 --> 00:50:34,061 he designed many of the costumes himself and said. 1303 00:50:34,063 --> 00:50:35,530 Costumes himself and said. Listen, this is my idea. And 1304 00:50:35,532 --> 00:50:36,297 Listen, this is my idea. And took it to somebody and say, 1305 00:50:36,299 --> 00:50:37,332 Took it to somebody and say, this is what I want you to 1306 00:50:37,334 --> 00:50:41,068 This is what I want you to create. That is the key to 1307 00:50:41,070 --> 00:50:41,902 Create. That is the key to luther's entire career. You 1308 00:50:41,904 --> 00:50:42,903 Luther's entire career. You know, people don't understand 1309 00:50:42,905 --> 00:50:44,172 Know, people don't understand those amazing shows and all of 1310 00:50:44,174 --> 00:50:46,407 Those amazing shows and all of the regalia, all of the 1311 00:50:46,409 --> 00:50:47,542 The regalia, all of the costuming and all the staging 1312 00:50:47,544 --> 00:50:50,344 Costuming and all the staging and all that kind of stuff. He 1313 00:50:50,346 --> 00:50:51,746 And all that kind of stuff. He was putting his money into 1314 00:50:51,748 --> 00:50:54,348 Was putting his money into putting on those shows. Have 1315 00:50:54,583 --> 00:50:57,719 We got some? So 1316 00:50:59,021 --> 00:51:03,925 You're coming. Home? Oh, up to love. All right. 1317 00:51:04,159 --> 00:51:07,028 I love you. Stop, stop, 1318 00:51:08,097 --> 00:51:14,097 Stop. I feel my. To the beat. All right. We are live for 1319 00:51:14,170 --> 00:51:15,136 all right. We are live for our tribute to luther. 1320 00:51:15,138 --> 00:51:17,738 Our tribute to luther. Everybody's here 1321 00:51:18,174 --> 00:51:22,610 Right? At this time. Our guest of honor has arrived. Ladies 1322 00:51:22,612 --> 00:51:25,746 Of honor has arrived. Ladies and gentlemen, mr. Luther 1323 00:51:25,748 --> 00:51:27,108 And gentlemen, mr. Luther vandross. 1324 00:51:33,522 --> 00:51:37,692 Luther, welcome. Thank you. Glad to be here. Luther 1325 00:51:37,694 --> 00:51:39,093 Glad to be here. Luther vandross, look at all your 1326 00:51:39,095 --> 00:51:41,196 Vandross, look at all your fans. How does it feel when you 1327 00:51:41,198 --> 00:51:41,796 Fans. How does it feel when you see luther was r&b music? 1328 00:51:41,798 --> 00:51:42,597 See luther was r&b music? It was great r&b music. And 1329 00:51:42,599 --> 00:51:44,131 it was great r&b music. And a lot of that was to his 1330 00:51:44,133 --> 00:51:48,769 A lot of that was to his benefit. But it would only be 1331 00:51:48,771 --> 00:51:50,071 Benefit. But it would only be played on black radio. So it 1332 00:51:50,073 --> 00:51:51,606 Played on black radio. So it became a challenge is when he 1333 00:51:51,608 --> 00:51:56,978 Became a challenge is when he wanted to cross over because 1334 00:51:56,980 --> 00:51:59,647 Wanted to cross over because luther was not necessarily 1335 00:51:59,649 --> 00:52:02,083 Luther was not necessarily embraced or given the freedom 1336 00:52:02,085 --> 00:52:04,785 Embraced or given the freedom to do it the same way that 1337 00:52:04,787 --> 00:52:07,388 To do it the same way that other artists that don't look 1338 00:52:08,691 --> 00:52:12,793 Like luther are. He felt very strongly that 1339 00:52:12,795 --> 00:52:15,830 he felt very strongly that he was being treated in a 1340 00:52:15,832 --> 00:52:17,242 He was being treated in a racist way by 1341 00:52:17,266 --> 00:52:22,603 The executives. He felt it from the budgets that he was being 1342 00:52:22,605 --> 00:52:23,905 The budgets that he was being given to make records to the 1343 00:52:23,907 --> 00:52:24,906 Given to make records to the amount of money that they were 1344 00:52:24,908 --> 00:52:26,307 Amount of money that they were spending to promote. When he'd 1345 00:52:26,309 --> 00:52:27,642 Spending to promote. When he'd look around and know that the 1346 00:52:27,644 --> 00:52:29,610 Look around and know that the promotion budgets for that 1347 00:52:29,612 --> 00:52:30,578 Promotion budgets for that white artist or that white 1348 00:52:30,580 --> 00:52:32,080 White artist or that white artist were triple what they 1349 00:52:32,082 --> 00:52:32,980 Artist were triple what they were spending on his records. 1350 00:52:32,982 --> 00:52:34,482 Were spending on his records. He was not a guy who sort of 1351 00:52:34,484 --> 00:52:36,451 He was not a guy who sort of just made records and stayed 1352 00:52:36,453 --> 00:52:37,351 Just made records and stayed out of the business side of it. 1353 00:52:37,353 --> 00:52:40,488 Out of the business side of it. He was very astute. He was a 1354 00:52:40,490 --> 00:52:41,256 He was very astute. He was a very astute businessman, and he 1355 00:52:41,258 --> 00:52:43,190 Very astute businessman, and he he 1356 00:52:43,392 --> 00:52:47,095 Knew what was happening. The concept of crossing over 1357 00:52:47,097 --> 00:52:49,630 the concept of crossing over was really so important, 1358 00:52:49,632 --> 00:52:52,133 Was really so important, honestly, to 1359 00:52:52,635 --> 00:52:58,635 Every artist, radio in america really was black, white, black, 1360 00:52:58,975 --> 00:53:00,808 Really was black, white, black, white. And when you had the 1361 00:53:00,810 --> 00:53:02,744 White. And when you had the ability to cross over, if you 1362 00:53:02,746 --> 00:53:04,479 Ability to cross over, if you were fortunate enough to cross 1363 00:53:04,481 --> 00:53:08,382 Were fortunate enough to cross over, really what that did for 1364 00:53:08,384 --> 00:53:10,285 Over, really what that did for you was give you way more 1365 00:53:10,287 --> 00:53:12,520 You was give you way more record sales, because now you 1366 00:53:12,522 --> 00:53:13,521 Record sales, because now you had other lanes. You didn't 1367 00:53:13,523 --> 00:53:14,756 Had other lanes. You didn't just get played on the black 1368 00:53:14,758 --> 00:53:16,290 Just get played on the black station, you got played on the 1369 00:53:16,292 --> 00:53:18,960 Station, you got played on the white stations as well. 1370 00:53:18,962 --> 00:53:20,494 White stations as well. When records and cds were 1371 00:53:20,496 --> 00:53:21,763 when records and cds were sold in stores, when you walked 1372 00:53:21,765 --> 00:53:24,799 Sold in stores, when you walked into the store, it was very 1373 00:53:24,801 --> 00:53:25,800 Into the store, it was very rare that black records were 1374 00:53:25,802 --> 00:53:27,268 Rare that black records were even at the front of the store. 1375 00:53:27,270 --> 00:53:29,470 Even at the front of the store. So if you just came in to 1376 00:53:29,472 --> 00:53:30,671 So if you just came in to browse and you were a fan of 1377 00:53:30,673 --> 00:53:31,973 Browse and you were a fan of black music, you walk in the 1378 00:53:31,975 --> 00:53:34,442 Black music, you walk in the store and you're just looking 1379 00:53:34,444 --> 00:53:35,176 Store and you're just looking and you ain't really. Do they 1380 00:53:35,178 --> 00:53:38,580 And you ain't really. Do they even sell black music in here? 1381 00:53:38,582 --> 00:53:39,413 Even sell black music in here? And then somebody is telling 1382 00:53:39,415 --> 00:53:43,684 And then somebody is telling you and it's at the back. This 1383 00:53:43,686 --> 00:53:44,652 You and it's at the back. This is real talk. And when you go 1384 00:53:44,654 --> 00:53:45,820 Is real talk. And when you go to the back, it's starting to 1385 00:53:45,822 --> 00:53:48,756 To the back, it's starting to smell like mice. And you know 1386 00:53:48,758 --> 00:53:50,657 Smell like mice. And you know what I'm saying? The speakers 1387 00:53:50,659 --> 00:53:53,595 What I'm saying? The speakers are staticky. And are they even 1388 00:53:53,597 --> 00:53:54,963 Are staticky. And are they even playing black music in the 1389 00:53:54,965 --> 00:53:56,063 Playing black music in the record store for you to get 1390 00:53:56,065 --> 00:53:57,498 Record store for you to get that taste of, oh, should I buy 1391 00:53:57,500 --> 00:53:58,967 That taste of, oh, should I buy that? And luther was fighting 1392 00:53:58,969 --> 00:54:01,101 That? And luther was fighting all of this. That's why when 1393 00:54:01,103 --> 00:54:05,607 All of this. That's why when you hear him quoted so often, I 1394 00:54:05,609 --> 00:54:07,809 You hear him quoted so often, I want a number one record. Some 1395 00:54:07,811 --> 00:54:10,711 Want a number one record. Some of that is I want a number one 1396 00:54:10,713 --> 00:54:12,146 Of that is I want a number one record. Some of it is I want to 1397 00:54:12,148 --> 00:54:14,915 Record. Some of it is I want to be treated fairly in this 1398 00:54:14,917 --> 00:54:15,383 Be treated fairly in this business. 1399 00:54:15,385 --> 00:54:16,517 Business. Live from the shrine 1400 00:54:16,519 --> 00:54:19,020 live from the shrine auditorium in los angeles, the 1401 00:54:19,022 --> 00:54:21,556 Auditorium in los angeles, the 28th annual grammy awards 1402 00:54:21,558 --> 00:54:22,089 28th annual grammy awards tonight. 1403 00:54:22,091 --> 00:54:22,890 Tonight. Luther wanted to be number 1404 00:54:22,892 --> 00:54:26,761 luther wanted to be number one on the pop charts, and then 1405 00:54:26,763 --> 00:54:28,963 One on the pop charts, and then he also wanted a grammy. Now, 1406 00:54:28,965 --> 00:54:32,933 He also wanted a grammy. Now, most of us are too cool to want 1407 00:54:32,935 --> 00:54:34,636 Most of us are too cool to want a grammy. You know you want it. 1408 00:54:34,638 --> 00:54:35,803 A grammy. You know you want it. You're too cool to say you 1409 00:54:35,805 --> 00:54:36,704 You're too cool to say you want it. Luther didn't care 1410 00:54:36,706 --> 00:54:38,172 Want it. Luther didn't care about that. He's like, I want 1411 00:54:38,174 --> 00:54:40,008 About that. He's like, I want my grandmother. And it took a 1412 00:54:40,010 --> 00:54:45,813 My grandmother. And it took a while and the grammy goes to 1413 00:54:45,815 --> 00:54:47,715 While and the grammy goes to terence trent d'arby. We're 1414 00:54:47,717 --> 00:54:49,817 Terence trent d'arby. We're here to present the grammy for 1415 00:54:49,819 --> 00:54:52,387 Here to present the grammy for best r&b performance, male. 1416 00:54:52,389 --> 00:54:55,289 Best r&b performance, male. And the grammy goes to mr. 1417 00:54:55,291 --> 00:54:57,124 And the grammy goes to mr. Stevie wonder. 1418 00:54:57,126 --> 00:54:59,861 Stevie wonder. And the grammy goes to. 1419 00:54:59,863 --> 00:55:02,530 And the grammy goes to. Living in america, james brown. 1420 00:55:03,465 --> 00:55:05,400 She calls me up, he says, so the grammys are in new york 1421 00:55:05,402 --> 00:55:06,767 The grammys are in new york this year. He'd been nominated 1422 00:55:06,769 --> 00:55:09,871 This year. He'd been nominated nine times before and had not 1423 00:55:09,873 --> 00:55:10,704 Nine times before and had not won. He said, I ain't gonna 1424 00:55:10,706 --> 00:55:12,840 Won. He said, I ain't gonna win. So listen, just come with 1425 00:55:12,842 --> 00:55:13,808 Win. So listen, just come with me. You know, we'll go to the 1426 00:55:13,810 --> 00:55:16,444 Me. You know, we'll go to the ceremony, we'll go out and eat. 1427 00:55:16,446 --> 00:55:17,278 Ceremony, we'll go out and eat. We'll hang out the nominations 1428 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:18,913 We'll hang out the nominations for best. Regina belle and 1429 00:55:18,915 --> 00:55:20,314 For best. Regina belle and michael bolton are on the stage 1430 00:55:20,316 --> 00:55:22,116 Michael bolton are on the stage calling out the names, and the 1431 00:55:22,118 --> 00:55:24,719 Calling out the names, and the grammy goes to. 1432 00:55:25,054 --> 00:55:28,189 Luther 1433 00:55:28,857 --> 00:55:32,393 Vandross. Sam nunn. And I could feel him go like this. And then 1434 00:55:32,395 --> 00:55:34,696 Feel him go like this. And then he just sort of calmed down and 1435 00:55:34,698 --> 00:55:37,231 He just sort of calmed down and just got really cool 1436 00:55:37,466 --> 00:55:43,466 For. Your I mean, I'm stunned. I said, so this is a dude I met 1437 00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:45,339 I said, so this is a dude I met in the projects, and he's here 1438 00:55:45,341 --> 00:55:48,442 In the projects, and he's here tonight winning a grammy for 1439 00:55:48,444 --> 00:55:48,776 Tonight winning a grammy for here and 1440 00:55:49,111 --> 00:55:55,111 Now. You know, love is all. Your love is all I need 1441 00:55:56,618 --> 00:56:01,856 I'm so glad. I'm so glad. I'm so glad. 1442 00:56:01,858 --> 00:56:04,224 I'm so glad. I'm so glad. I'm so glad. I'm so glad. I'm 1443 00:56:04,226 --> 00:56:06,627 I'm so glad. I'm so glad. I'm so glad. 1444 00:56:06,629 --> 00:56:09,230 So glad. I'm so glad. Yes, 1445 00:56:11,834 --> 00:56:14,869 I am. That I won a grammy. So you walk into the studio 1446 00:56:14,871 --> 00:56:18,672 so you walk into the studio the next day, says everyone 1447 00:56:18,674 --> 00:56:19,507 The next day, says everyone here you are to address me for 1448 00:56:19,509 --> 00:56:21,375 Here you are to address me for the rest of the day as luther, 1449 00:56:21,377 --> 00:56:23,477 The rest of the day as luther, grammy winner vandross. So we 1450 00:56:23,479 --> 00:56:25,279 Grammy winner vandross. So we laughed, right? And he made us 1451 00:56:25,281 --> 00:56:28,182 Laughed, right? And he made us do that for the whole day. 1452 00:56:28,184 --> 00:56:30,685 Do that for the whole day. It's 1453 00:56:30,919 --> 00:56:33,287 About time. Time, time, time. 1454 00:56:33,289 --> 00:56:35,957 Time, time, time. I had to get 1455 00:56:36,625 --> 00:56:42,296 That in. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Those shows 1456 00:56:42,530 --> 00:56:44,865 Can weirdly inspire you because if you get shut out so many 1457 00:56:44,867 --> 00:56:45,866 If you get shut out so many times, if you think about it, 1458 00:56:45,868 --> 00:56:47,501 Times, if you think about it, luther's music just kept 1459 00:56:47,503 --> 00:56:48,836 Luther's music just kept getting better. It kept getting 1460 00:56:48,838 --> 00:56:51,005 Getting better. It kept getting better. He said, I'm going to 1461 00:56:51,007 --> 00:56:52,540 Better. He said, I'm going to be undenied. And so it could be 1462 00:56:52,542 --> 00:56:53,307 Be undenied. And so it could be the blessing and the curse. Of 1463 00:56:53,309 --> 00:56:54,175 The blessing and the curse. Of course, he should have won a 1464 00:56:54,177 --> 00:56:55,510 Course, he should have won a grammy nine times. Of the nine 1465 00:56:55,512 --> 00:56:58,112 Grammy nine times. Of the nine times 1466 00:56:58,380 --> 00:56:59,413 He was shut out, but 1467 00:57:00,548 --> 00:57:04,685 cnn's five things with kate baldwin now streaming on max I 1468 00:57:04,687 --> 00:57:04,952 Baldwin now streaming on max I try to 1469 00:57:05,154 --> 00:57:08,923 Do songs that I think I can do differently, you know, and that 1470 00:57:08,925 --> 00:57:10,257 Differently, you know, and that I think fit me, you know, sort 1471 00:57:10,259 --> 00:57:12,159 I think fit me, you know, sort of like a what somebody chooses 1472 00:57:12,161 --> 00:57:13,161 Of like a what somebody chooses to wear, you know, when they're 1473 00:57:13,163 --> 00:57:14,895 To wear, you know, when they're going to go to the academy 1474 00:57:14,897 --> 00:57:15,529 Going to go to the academy awards or something. 1475 00:57:15,531 --> 00:57:16,697 Awards or something. You know, they choose that 1476 00:57:16,699 --> 00:57:17,832 you know, they choose that special thing, you know? So 1477 00:57:17,834 --> 00:57:20,367 Special thing, you know? So that's the way I try to look 1478 00:57:20,369 --> 00:57:22,837 That's the way I try to look at the tunes I cover. 1479 00:57:22,839 --> 00:57:24,538 At the tunes I cover. Now, unlike a lot of artists 1480 00:57:24,540 --> 00:57:26,540 now, unlike a lot of artists from like the 80s and 90s up to 1481 00:57:26,542 --> 00:57:28,375 From like the 80s and 90s up to today, luther, his esthetic was 1482 00:57:28,377 --> 00:57:29,644 Today, luther, his esthetic was from the 60s and the 70s. 1483 00:57:29,646 --> 00:57:32,379 From the 60s and the 70s. Luther had heard superstar in 1484 00:57:32,381 --> 00:57:34,949 Luther had heard superstar in the early 70s. 1485 00:57:36,584 --> 00:57:39,086 Long ago, 1486 00:57:39,287 --> 00:57:44,192 And oh, so far away. And I'll never forget one 1487 00:57:44,194 --> 00:57:47,061 and I'll never forget one day he walks in and says, man, 1488 00:57:47,063 --> 00:57:50,097 Day he walks in and says, man, we're going to record 1489 00:57:50,099 --> 00:57:50,764 We're going to record superstar. I said, the 1490 00:57:50,766 --> 00:57:51,065 Superstar. I said, the carpenters. 1491 00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,201 He goes, yeah. And I said, okay, I know, I know better 1492 00:57:54,203 --> 00:57:55,736 Okay, I know, I know better than to question you, but I 1493 00:57:55,738 --> 00:57:58,239 Than to question you, but I need to see how this is 1494 00:57:59,274 --> 00:58:02,610 Going to work. I 1495 00:58:03,345 --> 00:58:06,414 Want to tell you, baby 1496 00:58:06,715 --> 00:58:12,620 The changes I've been going 1497 00:58:13,388 --> 00:58:16,457 Through. Missing 1498 00:58:16,692 --> 00:58:19,960 You. Listen, you. 1499 00:58:19,962 --> 00:58:20,694 Listen, you. Um, when luther does a 1500 00:58:20,696 --> 00:58:22,230 um, when luther does a cover, it's going to be slower 1501 00:58:22,232 --> 00:58:25,132 Cover, it's going to be slower than the original version, and 1502 00:58:25,134 --> 00:58:30,238 Than the original version, and he asked for an intro, and I 1503 00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:31,605 He asked for an intro, and I just went home and started 1504 00:58:31,607 --> 00:58:33,140 Just went home and started arranging. That was the first 1505 00:58:33,142 --> 00:58:35,710 Arranging. That was the first full arrangement that I did for 1506 00:58:36,879 --> 00:58:40,247 Him. Long ago. 1507 00:58:43,451 --> 00:58:46,554 And 1508 00:58:47,222 --> 00:58:50,357 I'm so far away. 1509 00:58:53,462 --> 00:58:58,933 I fell in love with you 1510 00:59:02,771 --> 00:59:05,973 Before 1511 00:59:06,174 --> 00:59:11,979 The second. Show oh 1512 00:59:12,246 --> 00:59:17,451 Don't you remember? You told me you love 1513 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:23,857 Me, baby. You said you'll be coming 1514 00:59:24,259 --> 00:59:27,361 Back this way again. 1515 00:59:28,330 --> 00:59:34,302 Baby. Baby, baby baby, baby 1516 00:59:34,503 --> 00:59:40,174 Oh baby yeah I 1517 00:59:40,508 --> 00:59:43,778 Love you 1518 00:59:46,048 --> 00:59:51,953 I really do he was such a master at space. 1519 00:59:51,955 --> 00:59:54,155 Master at space. He would let space go by. 1520 00:59:54,157 --> 00:59:55,689 He would let space go by. And get your anticipation up 1521 00:59:55,691 --> 00:59:56,958 And get your anticipation up for the next line. There were 1522 00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:00,894 For the next line. There were huge pauses where it was just 1523 01:00:00,896 --> 01:00:02,563 Huge pauses where it was just emotionally affect you. When he 1524 01:00:02,565 --> 01:00:05,532 Emotionally affect you. When he finally came back in, you look 1525 01:00:05,534 --> 01:00:08,035 Finally came back in, you look for me to be. 1526 01:00:08,037 --> 01:00:10,537 For me to be. Yours. You are my lord. To 1527 01:00:10,539 --> 01:00:15,242 yours. You are my lord. To on the road to be. Don't you 1528 01:00:17,846 --> 01:00:21,015 Remember me? Anyone? 1529 01:00:23,752 --> 01:00:26,687 And you know, there's one point in the song where he 1530 01:00:26,689 --> 01:00:30,758 Point in the song where he goes, keep it right there, keep 1531 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:31,993 Goes, keep it right there, keep it right there. Because we got 1532 01:00:31,995 --> 01:00:32,960 It right there. Because we got to that little part in the song 1533 01:00:32,962 --> 01:00:33,794 To that little part in the song that luther likes to add after 1534 01:00:33,796 --> 01:00:35,963 That luther likes to add after the song is supposed to be 1535 01:00:35,965 --> 01:00:36,964 The song is supposed to be ended, keep it right there. And 1536 01:00:36,966 --> 01:00:38,566 Ended, keep it right there. And he's telling me and the rest 1537 01:00:38,568 --> 01:00:41,235 He's telling me and the rest of the guys who like to play 1538 01:00:41,237 --> 01:00:43,370 Of the guys who like to play jazz don't jazz this thing up. 1539 01:00:43,372 --> 01:00:44,571 Jazz don't jazz this thing up. Keep it right there. Play it 1540 01:00:44,573 --> 01:00:45,906 Keep it right there. Play it easy. That's what he said. 1541 01:00:45,908 --> 01:00:47,775 Easy. That's what he said. Play it easy. Keep it right 1542 01:00:47,777 --> 01:00:49,543 play it easy. Keep it right there. Play it easy. 1543 01:00:49,545 --> 01:00:51,545 There. Play it easy. Keep it right there. Keep it 1544 01:00:51,547 --> 01:00:53,581 keep it right there. Keep it right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah 1545 01:00:53,583 --> 01:00:54,481 Right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I 1546 01:00:54,483 --> 01:00:55,015 Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I said okay. 1547 01:00:55,017 --> 01:00:55,749 Said okay. Well what are you going to 1548 01:00:55,751 --> 01:00:56,917 well what are you going to do is he's going to turn his 1549 01:00:56,919 --> 01:00:58,619 Do is he's going to turn his vocal off when the song gets 1550 01:00:58,621 --> 01:01:01,989 Vocal off when the song gets mixed. No, he just left it 1551 01:01:01,991 --> 01:01:02,823 Mixed. No, he just left it right there. And it became one 1552 01:01:02,825 --> 01:01:03,457 Right there. And it became one of the most wonderful parts of 1553 01:01:03,459 --> 01:01:06,394 Of the most wonderful parts of the song. 1554 01:01:06,396 --> 01:01:06,626 The song. 1555 01:01:06,794 --> 01:01:12,066 And I do. Remember even though it. 1556 01:01:14,435 --> 01:01:18,939 Was. Long ago. 1557 01:01:20,242 --> 01:01:23,377 Yeah, yeah, 1558 01:01:23,779 --> 01:01:26,914 Yeah, yeah. 1559 01:01:30,719 --> 01:01:33,821 So how do I do it? Right. Let me let me tell you 1560 01:01:33,823 --> 01:01:34,554 let me let me tell you something. Oh. Right there. 1561 01:01:34,556 --> 01:01:35,589 Something. Oh. Right there. Okay. Let me give it because I 1562 01:01:35,591 --> 01:01:36,957 Okay. Let me give it because I like the low end. Yeah. He 1563 01:01:36,959 --> 01:01:39,326 Like the low end. Yeah. He knows if you show yourself 1564 01:01:39,328 --> 01:01:39,827 Knows if you show yourself right. 1565 01:01:39,829 --> 01:01:40,961 Right. They all know her. 1566 01:01:40,963 --> 01:01:42,063 They all know her. They love her. I wait until 1567 01:01:42,065 --> 01:01:44,298 they love her. I wait until the end. Wait until after the 1568 01:01:44,300 --> 01:01:44,798 The end. Wait until after the song. 1569 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:45,299 Song. Yeah. 1570 01:01:45,301 --> 01:01:46,099 Yeah. And they know the record, 1571 01:01:46,101 --> 01:01:48,436 and they know the record, right? Exactly. 1572 01:01:48,438 --> 01:01:49,503 Right? Exactly. Luther just had such a pure 1573 01:01:49,505 --> 01:01:52,139 luther just had such a pure heart that came out through his 1574 01:01:52,141 --> 01:01:54,675 Heart that came out through his vocals and his music in general 1575 01:01:54,677 --> 01:01:59,346 Vocals and his music in general that, you know, it really was, 1576 01:01:59,348 --> 01:02:00,180 That, you know, it really was, like, otherworldly, like from 1577 01:02:00,182 --> 01:02:01,916 Like, otherworldly, like from out 1578 01:02:03,118 --> 01:02:06,320 Of a dream. 1579 01:02:07,089 --> 01:02:11,258 And in this dream, there was a major diva in 1580 01:02:11,460 --> 01:02:14,462 The wings waiting for me. 1581 01:02:16,431 --> 01:02:22,336 Oh, yes. She will appear out of 1582 01:02:22,338 --> 01:02:22,836 she will appear out of somewhere. 1583 01:02:22,838 --> 01:02:23,938 Somewhere. I was so nervous because I 1584 01:02:23,940 --> 01:02:28,842 I was so nervous because I had never probably played in a 1585 01:02:28,844 --> 01:02:30,878 Had never probably played in a place that big before. It's the 1586 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:31,712 Place that big before. It's the beginning of the performance 1587 01:02:31,714 --> 01:02:33,580 Beginning of the performance and luther's like. I'm seeking 1588 01:02:33,582 --> 01:02:37,551 And luther's like. I'm seeking out a diva and she's here and 1589 01:02:37,553 --> 01:02:40,121 Out a diva and she's here and she's there. 1590 01:02:40,322 --> 01:02:45,526 And I really was honored when he brought me out to sing 1591 01:02:46,061 --> 01:02:51,665 With him. My. Love there's only 1592 01:02:51,899 --> 01:02:57,371 You in my life. The only thing that's 1593 01:02:57,605 --> 01:03:00,508 Right. You. 1594 01:03:01,510 --> 01:03:07,510 My first love, your every breath that I take. Mariah kept 1595 01:03:07,683 --> 01:03:10,117 Breath that I take. Mariah kept coming up with song titles that 1596 01:03:10,119 --> 01:03:13,053 Coming up with song titles that she thought I would sound good 1597 01:03:13,055 --> 01:03:13,521 She thought I would sound good singing. 1598 01:03:13,523 --> 01:03:14,523 Singing. And then 1599 01:03:14,556 --> 01:03:16,924 She suggested endless love. And she says, oh, and I'll 1600 01:03:16,926 --> 01:03:19,226 and she says, oh, and I'll sing it with you. 1601 01:03:19,228 --> 01:03:22,062 Sing it with you. I want to share all 1602 01:03:23,331 --> 01:03:25,533 My love. So I guess it was my idea. 1603 01:03:25,535 --> 01:03:29,537 So I guess it was my idea. If luther said it was. But I 1604 01:03:29,539 --> 01:03:30,404 If luther said it was. But I couldn't have been happier 1605 01:03:30,406 --> 01:03:33,307 Couldn't have been happier because I was such a fan of his 1606 01:03:33,309 --> 01:03:35,743 Because I was such a fan of his and luther being one of the 1607 01:03:35,745 --> 01:03:37,411 And luther being one of the greatest vocalists is something 1608 01:03:37,413 --> 01:03:40,080 Greatest vocalists is something that I really was inspired by. 1609 01:03:40,082 --> 01:03:45,386 That I really was inspired by. I'll be that fool for 1610 01:03:46,221 --> 01:03:52,221 You, for you, baby. Oh. So sure that your know I 1611 01:03:52,561 --> 01:03:57,464 Don't mind. You know I don't, I don't mind 1612 01:03:58,066 --> 01:04:01,202 Yes 1613 01:04:01,636 --> 01:04:04,738 You be the only 1614 01:04:05,006 --> 01:04:10,411 One. Cause no one, no one can 1615 01:04:11,279 --> 01:04:17,279 Deny this love I have inside you. And I give it 1616 01:04:19,988 --> 01:04:25,988 All to you. Oh my, love, my love, my my, my, my endless. 1617 01:04:28,430 --> 01:04:31,599 Love 1618 01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:37,170 La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la 1619 01:04:39,608 --> 01:04:42,776 La. La 1620 01:04:43,445 --> 01:04:48,515 La la. Love hair. 1621 01:04:51,486 --> 01:04:56,857 Do la la la la la la la la la la love. 1622 01:04:59,761 --> 01:05:03,230 My. Love, played a 1623 01:05:03,765 --> 01:05:07,501 Downbeat like that for a verse. 1624 01:05:07,702 --> 01:05:12,640 Yeah. No a one more time. 1625 01:05:13,875 --> 01:05:19,875 Every time you go away, I'm gone. Yes, I always say. It's 1626 01:05:24,319 --> 01:05:27,254 Goodbye, dear. 1627 01:05:27,822 --> 01:05:32,459 Loving you the way I do. Check it out. 1628 01:05:32,461 --> 01:05:34,661 It out. Right. 1629 01:05:34,663 --> 01:05:37,197 Right. I take you back. 1630 01:05:37,532 --> 01:05:40,868 Without you I died in 1631 01:05:44,038 --> 01:05:47,041 Knowing 1632 01:05:48,209 --> 01:05:54,209 I love you so anyone a little would make me 1633 01:05:57,152 --> 01:06:00,154 Any. Arms. And love 1634 01:06:01,356 --> 01:06:05,292 Me too. You couldn't really ever. Have. And let like you 1635 01:06:05,294 --> 01:06:07,861 Ever. Have. And let like you had 1636 01:06:08,430 --> 01:06:13,433 Me and. Listen to what am I to do? 1637 01:06:13,435 --> 01:06:15,235 Do? What I loved more than 1638 01:06:15,237 --> 01:06:16,903 what I loved more than anything else about hearing the 1639 01:06:16,905 --> 01:06:18,339 Anything else about hearing the songs that he decided he wanted 1640 01:06:18,341 --> 01:06:23,544 Songs that he decided he wanted to record of mine was that he 1641 01:06:25,447 --> 01:06:27,647 Made them his own. It wasn't all I'm going to sing like 1642 01:06:27,649 --> 01:06:28,515 All I'm going to sing like dion sang it. I'm going to sing 1643 01:06:28,517 --> 01:06:29,048 Dion sang it. I'm going to sing it like luther. 1644 01:06:29,050 --> 01:06:31,318 It like luther. Mr. Luther vandross 1645 01:06:34,689 --> 01:06:37,758 Whoa! 1646 01:06:40,729 --> 01:06:43,897 Dum dum dum 1647 01:06:44,131 --> 01:06:46,733 Dum dum dum dum. Hey, baby. 1648 01:06:46,735 --> 01:06:48,268 Hey, baby. Whoa, honey, I remember 1649 01:06:48,270 --> 01:06:50,204 whoa, honey, I remember hearing a house is not a home 1650 01:06:50,206 --> 01:06:52,373 Hearing a house is not a home for the first time. I couldn't 1651 01:06:52,375 --> 01:06:54,508 For the first time. I couldn't believe that I was here. I told 1652 01:06:54,510 --> 01:06:57,444 Believe that I was here. I told him, I said, baby doll, you 1653 01:06:57,446 --> 01:06:59,279 Him, I said, baby doll, you have just given me the 1654 01:06:59,281 --> 01:07:01,081 Have just given me the definitive version of that 1655 01:07:01,083 --> 01:07:01,548 Definitive version of that song. 1656 01:07:01,550 --> 01:07:03,683 Song. a 1657 01:07:03,951 --> 01:07:08,922 Chair is still a chair. Even 1658 01:07:09,157 --> 01:07:14,428 When there's no. One sitting there. 1659 01:07:14,796 --> 01:07:17,130 Like what? He's singing about 1660 01:07:17,132 --> 01:07:19,299 he's singing about furniture in this did sound 1661 01:07:19,301 --> 01:07:24,238 Furniture in this did sound great. You know what I'm 1662 01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:27,107 Great. You know what I'm saying? We at wayfair put a 1663 01:07:27,109 --> 01:07:29,977 Saying? We at wayfair put a chair is still a chair but. 1664 01:07:29,979 --> 01:07:32,579 Chair is still a chair but. All I. 1665 01:07:32,581 --> 01:07:37,551 All I. Room is not a house. And a 1666 01:07:37,553 --> 01:07:39,853 room is not a house. And a house is not a. Home when the 1667 01:07:39,855 --> 01:07:42,356 House is not a. Home when the two 1668 01:07:42,590 --> 01:07:48,495 Of us, we are far apart and 1669 01:07:50,298 --> 01:07:56,003 One of us. Has a. Broken 1670 01:07:56,471 --> 01:07:59,706 Heart. Yeah. I got to say, when I was 1671 01:07:59,708 --> 01:08:02,209 I got to say, when I was being honored by the naacp and 1672 01:08:02,211 --> 01:08:04,678 Being honored by the naacp and he performed it 1673 01:08:04,912 --> 01:08:08,982 For me, it was it was overwhelming. It really was, 1674 01:08:08,984 --> 01:08:11,184 Overwhelming. It really was, because he just showed out that 1675 01:08:11,186 --> 01:08:14,021 Because he just showed out that night. He really did. Cause 1676 01:08:14,023 --> 01:08:16,824 Night. He really did. Cause I'm not meant to live alone. 1677 01:08:16,826 --> 01:08:18,892 I'm not meant to live alone. No no no no no no no no no 1678 01:08:18,894 --> 01:08:22,463 no no no no no no no no no no. Time is house. Into a home 1679 01:08:22,465 --> 01:08:25,032 No. Time is house. Into a home when I climb the. 1680 01:08:25,233 --> 01:08:30,770 Stairs. When I turn the. Key. Oh please be there saying that 1681 01:08:30,772 --> 01:08:35,876 Oh please be there saying that you're still in love. Your. So 1682 01:08:36,978 --> 01:08:40,013 In love with me 1683 01:08:41,916 --> 01:08:45,085 Oh. 1684 01:08:46,855 --> 01:08:51,558 I'm not meant to live. Alone. Time. This house into 1685 01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:56,930 alone. Time. This house into a home where I 1686 01:08:57,232 --> 01:09:02,870 Climb the stairs. Reach out and turn the. Key. 1687 01:09:03,071 --> 01:09:09,071 Oh baby please be there and still in love. 1688 01:09:12,881 --> 01:09:16,016 With. 1689 01:09:17,352 --> 01:09:23,123 Me. When? 1690 01:09:24,459 --> 01:09:30,459 Me. Oh love still 1691 01:09:32,467 --> 01:09:35,602 In love. Oh, with me. 1692 01:09:37,238 --> 01:09:38,238 Yeah. 1693 01:09:41,410 --> 01:09:45,946 We'll come to you. 800 821 4000. 1694 01:09:51,253 --> 01:09:53,721 What up, what up? The moment hip hop got on 1695 01:09:53,723 --> 01:09:58,359 the moment hip hop got on the radio, it became a huge 1696 01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:00,494 Challenge for artists like luther and all those r&b 1697 01:10:00,496 --> 01:10:03,031 Luther and all those r&b artists 1698 01:10:04,299 --> 01:10:09,303 Who dominated radio. And it became hip hop's time. So a lot 1699 01:10:09,305 --> 01:10:09,971 Became hip hop's time. So a lot of artists from luther's 1700 01:10:09,973 --> 01:10:10,737 Of artists from luther's generation got a little quiet 1701 01:10:10,739 --> 01:10:13,307 Generation got a little quiet for them, not to the point that 1702 01:10:13,309 --> 01:10:14,675 For them, not to the point that they weren't successful, but 1703 01:10:14,677 --> 01:10:15,410 They weren't successful, but not successful in the way that 1704 01:10:15,412 --> 01:10:17,211 Not successful in the way that they 1705 01:10:17,980 --> 01:10:21,215 Had previously been successful. Well, I haven't released a 1706 01:10:21,217 --> 01:10:22,950 well, I haven't released a product in a couple of years 1707 01:10:22,952 --> 01:10:25,052 Product in a couple of years now, and it'll be interesting 1708 01:10:25,054 --> 01:10:27,588 Now, and it'll be interesting because I'm about to sign a new 1709 01:10:27,590 --> 01:10:28,222 Because I'm about to sign a new record deal now. 1710 01:10:28,224 --> 01:10:28,790 Record deal now. Wait wait wait wait wait 1711 01:10:28,792 --> 01:10:29,624 wait wait wait wait wait wait wait. You're going to 1712 01:10:29,626 --> 01:10:30,391 Wait wait. You're going to side with I read this, you're 1713 01:10:30,393 --> 01:10:31,158 Side with I read this, you're going to side with clive davis, 1714 01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,628 Going to side with clive davis, I am yeah, you are going to 1715 01:10:33,630 --> 01:10:35,563 I am yeah, you are going to sign with jay records with his 1716 01:10:35,565 --> 01:10:36,030 Sign with jay records with his new label? 1717 01:10:36,032 --> 01:10:38,232 New label? Absolutely. Yeah. 1718 01:10:38,234 --> 01:10:40,968 Absolutely. Yeah. Clive davis is so known for 1719 01:10:40,970 --> 01:10:43,604 clive davis is so known for his expertise as an executive 1720 01:10:43,606 --> 01:10:46,006 His expertise as an executive producer. Aretha came to clive. 1721 01:10:46,008 --> 01:10:48,409 Producer. Aretha came to clive. Dionne came to clive. Whitney 1722 01:10:48,411 --> 01:10:50,211 Dionne came to clive. Whitney started with clive. He's just 1723 01:10:50,213 --> 01:10:53,180 Started with clive. He's just instrumental in a lot of black 1724 01:10:53,182 --> 01:10:55,683 Instrumental in a lot of black artists lives. And so if I'm 1725 01:10:55,685 --> 01:10:56,450 Artists lives. And so if I'm luther vandross and I'm a 1726 01:10:56,452 --> 01:10:58,619 Luther vandross and I'm a little bit at a turning point. 1727 01:10:58,621 --> 01:11:03,357 Little bit at a turning point. Clive can seem like. Um, a very 1728 01:11:03,359 --> 01:11:05,793 Clive can seem like. Um, a very soft place to land. 1729 01:11:05,795 --> 01:11:08,028 Soft place to land. I was just starting my new 1730 01:11:08,030 --> 01:11:10,531 I was just starting my new record label, j records, and we 1731 01:11:10,533 --> 01:11:13,534 Record label, j records, and we agreed to have dinner. 1732 01:11:13,536 --> 01:11:14,913 Agreed to have dinner. Luther had one mission in 1733 01:11:14,937 --> 01:11:19,640 Mind for that denim. Do you believe that I could have hit 1734 01:11:19,642 --> 01:11:21,742 Believe that I could have hit again? Said he, and I said, 1735 01:11:21,744 --> 01:11:23,644 Again? Said he, and I said, that opens up my question to 1736 01:11:23,646 --> 01:11:26,514 That opens up my question to you. Will you be open to 1737 01:11:28,851 --> 01:11:33,621 My finding some outside songs for you? He said, I am totally 1738 01:11:33,623 --> 01:11:36,224 For you? He said, I am totally open to outside 1739 01:11:37,726 --> 01:11:39,159 Material. He sold over 20 million 1740 01:11:39,161 --> 01:11:41,062 he sold over 20 million albums worldwide, and 1741 01:11:41,064 --> 01:11:43,698 Albums worldwide, and apparently he's definitely not 1742 01:11:43,700 --> 01:11:44,231 Apparently he's definitely not done. 1743 01:11:44,233 --> 01:11:47,235 Done. Luther had a voice like no 1744 01:11:47,468 --> 01:11:52,306 Other spectacular, and he was back to being platinum, 1745 01:11:52,541 --> 01:11:54,508 Making a special appearance. 106 and park, y'all better 1746 01:11:54,510 --> 01:11:58,746 106 and park, y'all better stand up right now. Give it up 1747 01:11:58,748 --> 01:12:01,282 Stand up right now. Give it up for the one and only luther 1748 01:12:01,284 --> 01:12:01,749 For the one and only luther vandross. 1749 01:12:01,751 --> 01:12:03,984 Vandross. All right? 1750 01:12:03,986 --> 01:12:04,919 All right? I'm happier now than I've 1751 01:12:04,921 --> 01:12:07,655 I'm happier now than I've ever been, but I expect to one 1752 01:12:07,657 --> 01:12:10,858 Ever been, but I expect to one day be the happiest I can be. 1753 01:12:10,860 --> 01:12:13,194 Day be the happiest I can be. I'm still looking for that 1754 01:12:13,196 --> 01:12:15,696 I'm still looking for that meaningful other person in my 1755 01:12:15,698 --> 01:12:17,932 Meaningful other person in my life. That is something that 1756 01:12:17,934 --> 01:12:19,100 Life. That is something that baffles me that I haven't been 1757 01:12:19,102 --> 01:12:19,833 Baffles me that I haven't been able to find. That seems like 1758 01:12:19,835 --> 01:12:24,105 Able to find. That seems like such a basic thing. Sometimes I 1759 01:12:24,107 --> 01:12:25,673 Such a basic thing. Sometimes I think that that fate has to 1760 01:12:25,675 --> 01:12:28,209 Think that that fate has to work with you, you 1761 01:12:28,443 --> 01:12:32,313 Know, to find certain things. I mean, if fate wants you to find 1762 01:12:32,315 --> 01:12:35,583 Mean, if fate wants you to find love, you can hide in the 1763 01:12:35,585 --> 01:12:37,651 Love, you can hide in the basement of your house with all 1764 01:12:37,653 --> 01:12:40,354 Basement of your house with all the doors bolted, you know, and 1765 01:12:40,356 --> 01:12:43,124 The doors bolted, you know, and it'll still happen. Yeah. 1766 01:12:43,126 --> 01:12:44,658 It'll still happen. Yeah. Let's go. 1767 01:12:44,660 --> 01:12:46,127 Let's go. You've done a number of 1768 01:12:46,129 --> 01:12:49,029 you've done a number of great songs over the years. 1769 01:12:49,031 --> 01:12:51,665 Great songs over the years. Which two were your favorite 1770 01:12:51,833 --> 01:12:57,705 And why? Mhm. Any love remains my favorite 1771 01:12:57,707 --> 01:12:58,205 any love remains my favorite song. 1772 01:12:58,207 --> 01:12:58,672 Song. Really? Why? 1773 01:12:59,007 --> 01:13:00,341 Because it is 1774 01:13:00,676 --> 01:13:03,144 Probably the only real autobiographical song that I 1775 01:13:03,146 --> 01:13:04,044 Autobiographical song that I wrote. That's exactly the way 1776 01:13:04,046 --> 01:13:07,982 Wrote. That's exactly the way I was feeling when I wrote the 1777 01:13:07,984 --> 01:13:08,515 I was feeling when I wrote the song. 1778 01:13:08,517 --> 01:13:11,152 Song. I speak to myself sometimes 1779 01:13:11,154 --> 01:13:12,554 I speak to myself sometimes and I 1780 01:13:13,956 --> 01:13:19,292 Say, oh, my. In a lot of ways you're a lucky guy. And oh, 1781 01:13:20,829 --> 01:13:26,567 Now all you need is a chance to try. And it 1782 01:13:28,170 --> 01:13:34,170 Love. In my heart there's a need to shout die and scream 1783 01:13:36,512 --> 01:13:41,682 Need to shout die and scream and cry and let me out. 1784 01:13:41,883 --> 01:13:46,787 There are all those feelings that I want to touch any. Love. 1785 01:13:49,724 --> 01:13:51,592 When people ask me, tell me about luther. I said, just 1786 01:13:51,594 --> 01:13:53,093 About luther. I said, just listen to any love. Just listen 1787 01:13:53,095 --> 01:13:53,727 Listen to any love. Just listen to those lyrics. 1788 01:13:53,729 --> 01:13:55,729 To those lyrics. You 1789 01:13:56,164 --> 01:13:58,565 Know, I got everything. I speak to myself sometimes 1790 01:13:58,567 --> 01:14:01,802 I speak to myself sometimes and I say, oh, my. In a lot of 1791 01:14:01,804 --> 01:14:04,104 And I say, oh, my. In a lot of ways you're a lucky guy. Now 1792 01:14:04,106 --> 01:14:04,938 Ways you're a lucky guy. Now all you need is a chance to try 1793 01:14:04,940 --> 01:14:07,441 All you need is a chance to try any love 1794 01:14:08,076 --> 01:14:11,279 Right? Any love 1795 01:14:12,180 --> 01:14:15,883 And all everyone needs love. 1796 01:14:16,084 --> 01:14:20,954 No doubt. Any love. Any 1797 01:14:21,255 --> 01:14:25,026 Love. And all everybody feels alone 1798 01:14:26,595 --> 01:14:29,730 Without any love. 1799 01:14:30,966 --> 01:14:34,235 Any love. And 1800 01:14:34,436 --> 01:14:37,604 I know there's someone waiting 1801 01:14:37,906 --> 01:14:43,906 To enter my. Life. Come into my life and oh, 1802 01:14:44,013 --> 01:14:48,615 come into my life and oh, suddenly out of the clear blue 1803 01:14:48,617 --> 01:14:49,083 Suddenly out of the clear blue sky. 1804 01:14:49,085 --> 01:14:49,616 Sky. Oh yeah. 1805 01:14:49,618 --> 01:14:50,618 Oh yeah. That 1806 01:14:52,087 --> 01:14:55,156 Was that day. 1807 01:14:55,991 --> 01:14:58,059 Jon hamm. Oh, goodness. And the next line is what? 1808 01:14:58,061 --> 01:14:58,926 And the next line is what? Because I'm trying to think, 1809 01:14:58,928 --> 01:14:59,827 Because I'm trying to think, why is it autobiographical? 1810 01:14:59,829 --> 01:15:00,627 Why is it autobiographical? Lonely tears start to fill 1811 01:15:00,629 --> 01:15:03,263 lonely tears start to fill my eyes. Oh, I get weak, but I 1812 01:15:03,265 --> 01:15:04,598 My eyes. Oh, I get weak, but I refuse to cry. I've got to 1813 01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:05,466 Refuse to cry. I've got to keep holding on. You know it 1814 01:15:05,468 --> 01:15:08,102 Keep holding on. You know it was one of those 1815 01:15:08,270 --> 01:15:11,972 Days. Y'all. Everyone needs love. 1816 01:15:12,473 --> 01:15:14,408 No doubt. Any love 1817 01:15:15,077 --> 01:15:19,146 Any love. And oh, I love, love, love 1818 01:15:19,148 --> 01:15:20,013 and oh, I love, love, love that song. And he loved before 1819 01:15:20,015 --> 01:15:21,048 That song. And he loved before I worked for luther. But once I 1820 01:15:21,050 --> 01:15:23,117 I worked for luther. But once I started working for luther, I 1821 01:15:23,119 --> 01:15:25,753 Started working for luther, I could see that the desperation 1822 01:15:25,755 --> 01:15:28,289 Could see that the desperation described in that song was 1823 01:15:28,291 --> 01:15:29,656 Described in that song was real. And I hated that song 1824 01:15:29,658 --> 01:15:32,059 Real. And I hated that song after that because it always 1825 01:15:32,061 --> 01:15:34,295 After that because it always reminded me that he wasn't 1826 01:15:34,297 --> 01:15:34,828 Reminded me that he wasn't seeking love. 1827 01:15:34,830 --> 01:15:37,498 Seeking love. He was seeking any love. 1828 01:15:37,500 --> 01:15:38,780 He was seeking any love. Is 1829 01:15:41,303 --> 01:15:44,472 There. Any? 1830 01:15:47,042 --> 01:15:50,144 Love? 1831 01:16:03,525 --> 01:16:07,561 That he would say, I feel like a trick has been played on me. 1832 01:16:07,563 --> 01:16:09,630 A trick has been played on me. What do you mean? Well, god 1833 01:16:09,632 --> 01:16:11,799 what do you mean? Well, god has given me everything I asked 1834 01:16:11,801 --> 01:16:14,802 Has given me everything I asked for except for this one thing 1835 01:16:14,804 --> 01:16:16,684 For except for this one thing to have one person 1836 01:16:17,239 --> 01:16:19,840 Who loves me. And we would say, but luther, you know we love 1837 01:16:19,842 --> 01:16:21,141 But luther, you know we love you. And he said, I know you 1838 01:16:21,143 --> 01:16:22,443 You. And he said, I know you guys love me. That's not what 1839 01:16:22,445 --> 01:16:26,880 Guys love me. That's not what I'm talking about. So we never 1840 01:16:26,882 --> 01:16:29,683 I'm talking about. So we never made that a focal point of our 1841 01:16:29,685 --> 01:16:31,452 Made that a focal point of our relationship. And we were 1842 01:16:31,454 --> 01:16:32,719 Relationship. And we were together quite a bit. Our dream 1843 01:16:32,721 --> 01:16:33,654 Together quite a bit. Our dream for luther was just that he 1844 01:16:33,656 --> 01:16:35,756 For luther was just that he could be loved and appreciated 1845 01:16:35,758 --> 01:16:37,158 Could be loved and appreciated for who he was, because he was 1846 01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:39,760 For who he was, because he was a wonderful human being 1847 01:16:40,362 --> 01:16:45,765 His life had some extremely joyful moments and some really 1848 01:16:45,767 --> 01:16:47,201 Joyful moments and some really difficult moments. 1849 01:16:47,203 --> 01:16:49,436 Difficult moments. There was one time, after 1850 01:16:49,438 --> 01:16:51,705 there was one time, after luther lost all the weight. 1851 01:16:51,707 --> 01:16:52,773 Luther lost all the weight. There was a rumor that he died 1852 01:16:52,775 --> 01:16:55,376 There was a rumor that he died or that he had aids or 1853 01:16:55,378 --> 01:16:55,943 Or that he had aids or something. 1854 01:16:55,945 --> 01:16:56,610 Something. Now, last week there was 1855 01:16:56,612 --> 01:16:58,111 now, last week there was last. Last year there were a 1856 01:16:58,113 --> 01:16:59,379 Last. Last year there were a lot of rumors because you got 1857 01:16:59,381 --> 01:16:59,880 Lot of rumors because you got thin. 1858 01:16:59,882 --> 01:17:00,380 Thin. Yeah. 1859 01:17:00,382 --> 01:17:01,248 Yeah. You're not going to ask me 1860 01:17:01,250 --> 01:17:02,016 you're not going to ask me about that stupid thing? 1861 01:17:02,018 --> 01:17:03,116 About that stupid thing? No, I'm going to ask you 1862 01:17:03,118 --> 01:17:05,486 no, I'm going to ask you what diet you went on. 1863 01:17:05,488 --> 01:17:06,086 What diet you went on. So irresponsibly. 1864 01:17:06,088 --> 01:17:07,188 So irresponsibly. I'm not going to even 1865 01:17:07,190 --> 01:17:07,721 I'm not going to even mention it. 1866 01:17:07,723 --> 01:17:08,389 Mention it. There was a report out, a 1867 01:17:08,391 --> 01:17:10,724 there was a report out, a rumor out, that luther was 1868 01:17:10,726 --> 01:17:11,192 Rumor out, that luther was dead. 1869 01:17:11,194 --> 01:17:12,292 Dead. Oh, yeah? 1870 01:17:12,294 --> 01:17:14,094 Oh, yeah? Did you guys see that? 1871 01:17:14,096 --> 01:17:15,496 Did you guys see that? Yeah, I heard it. Yeah. 1872 01:17:15,498 --> 01:17:16,930 Yeah, I heard it. Yeah. There was. So finally, it 1873 01:17:16,932 --> 01:17:19,132 there was. So finally, it just made me realize you have 1874 01:17:19,134 --> 01:17:21,635 Just made me realize you have to just. I copped to 1875 01:17:22,737 --> 01:17:24,071 It. I died, and can you imagine? 1876 01:17:24,073 --> 01:17:24,805 Imagine? He said, man, I'm sitting 1877 01:17:24,807 --> 01:17:26,607 he said, man, I'm sitting here in the living room 1878 01:17:26,609 --> 01:17:29,009 Here in the living room watching tv on Sunday, and the 1879 01:17:29,011 --> 01:17:32,613 Watching tv on Sunday, and the pastor is saying a prayer for 1880 01:17:32,615 --> 01:17:35,315 Pastor is saying a prayer for me because I just passed. He 1881 01:17:35,317 --> 01:17:37,784 Me because I just passed. He went, no, I'm still here. Can 1882 01:17:37,786 --> 01:17:39,152 Went, no, I'm still here. Can you imagine? I mean, this is 1883 01:17:39,154 --> 01:17:40,754 You imagine? I mean, this is like I tell a lot of you young 1884 01:17:40,756 --> 01:17:43,290 Like I tell a lot of you young people, fame and fortune, 1885 01:17:43,292 --> 01:17:45,426 People, fame and fortune, fortunes. Cool. Fame is not 1886 01:17:45,428 --> 01:17:48,062 Fortunes. Cool. Fame is not always so 1887 01:17:48,597 --> 01:17:51,732 Cool. 1888 01:17:55,770 --> 01:18:01,770 Knowing love the way I do. I can say for 1889 01:18:04,513 --> 01:18:07,681 Certain that it's true. There's a 1890 01:18:09,951 --> 01:18:11,685 Chance for me and you. Oh, what do you say? You 1891 01:18:11,687 --> 01:18:12,753 oh, what do you say? You spent more time being in love 1892 01:18:12,755 --> 01:18:15,256 Spent more time being in love or like, waiting for 1893 01:18:15,690 --> 01:18:18,092 Love? Waiting, waiting. And the 1894 01:18:18,094 --> 01:18:19,260 waiting, waiting. And the time that was spent being in 1895 01:18:19,262 --> 01:18:22,096 Time that was spent being in love was largely, 1896 01:18:22,098 --> 01:18:24,865 Love was largely, unfortunately. Always 1897 01:18:24,867 --> 01:18:25,599 Unfortunately. Always unrequited. Unreciprocated. 1898 01:18:25,601 --> 01:18:26,300 Unrequited. Unreciprocated. Whatever the word is, you know 1899 01:18:26,302 --> 01:18:28,268 Whatever the word is, you know what I'm saying? Now, I 1900 01:18:28,270 --> 01:18:30,837 What I'm saying? Now, I remember 1901 01:18:31,005 --> 01:18:36,043 Spending all my time on a dream that kept 1902 01:18:36,344 --> 01:18:39,480 Me wishing that you could 1903 01:18:39,681 --> 01:18:42,683 Be. Mine. 1904 01:18:42,884 --> 01:18:47,488 Yeah, I don't consider myself unlovable by any stretch, but 1905 01:18:47,490 --> 01:18:50,491 Unlovable by any stretch, but no, it has. That had not 1906 01:18:50,493 --> 01:18:53,060 No, it has. That had not happened, you know, so I I'm 1907 01:18:53,062 --> 01:18:55,662 Happened, you know, so I I'm still waiting for me to get the 1908 01:18:55,664 --> 01:18:58,198 Still waiting for me to get the love I've 1909 01:18:58,433 --> 01:19:01,635 Been missing. Sometimes love takes a long time. 1910 01:19:01,637 --> 01:19:03,036 Takes a long time. But wait for love. 1911 01:19:03,038 --> 01:19:07,341 But wait for love. And you're gonna get it up 1912 01:19:07,343 --> 01:19:08,642 and you're gonna get it up chance to love, wait for love. 1913 01:19:08,644 --> 01:19:11,211 Chance to love, wait for love. Wait for love. And 1914 01:19:12,547 --> 01:19:18,118 You. You. Yeah, I love. Takes. It always made me 1915 01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:19,686 takes. It always made me sad. Because I always wanted 1916 01:19:19,688 --> 01:19:21,688 Sad. Because I always wanted luther to find whatever would 1917 01:19:21,690 --> 01:19:23,991 Luther to find whatever would fulfill his heart. 1918 01:19:23,993 --> 01:19:26,660 Fulfill his heart. There's something inside of 1919 01:19:26,861 --> 01:19:29,296 Luther that he just. I think, in some ways, felt like he 1920 01:19:29,298 --> 01:19:31,832 In some ways, felt like he couldn't share all of 1921 01:19:32,767 --> 01:19:35,936 Himself. 1922 01:19:36,638 --> 01:19:40,174 I think that because of the stigma back then, if he was 1923 01:19:40,176 --> 01:19:42,843 Stigma back then, if he was gay, the thought of, quote 1924 01:19:42,845 --> 01:19:44,478 Gay, the thought of, quote coming out that he couldn't 1925 01:19:44,480 --> 01:19:47,548 Coming out that he couldn't bear it, he'd rather be alone 1926 01:19:48,950 --> 01:19:52,152 Than have that stigma attached. 1927 01:19:55,390 --> 01:19:58,892 One of the things that really me off is there were 1928 01:19:58,894 --> 01:20:01,595 Really me off is there were people who have talked about 1929 01:20:01,597 --> 01:20:04,164 People who have talked about his personal life who, you 1930 01:20:04,166 --> 01:20:06,667 His personal life who, you know, he considered 1931 01:20:08,503 --> 01:20:11,538 Friends. Did he struggle with the 1932 01:20:11,540 --> 01:20:13,841 did he struggle with the idea of coming out publicly? 1933 01:20:13,843 --> 01:20:15,108 Idea of coming out publicly? Was that was that something 1934 01:20:15,110 --> 01:20:15,976 Was that was that something that you talked about at all? 1935 01:20:15,978 --> 01:20:17,110 That you talked about at all? We talked about it. 1936 01:20:17,112 --> 01:20:18,579 We talked about it. It was basically he did not 1937 01:20:18,581 --> 01:20:21,248 it was basically he did not want his mother to be, although 1938 01:20:21,250 --> 01:20:23,784 Want his mother to be, although she might have known, but he 1939 01:20:23,786 --> 01:20:24,785 She might have known, but he wasn't going to come out and 1940 01:20:24,787 --> 01:20:26,387 Wasn't going to come out and say this to the world. And he 1941 01:20:26,389 --> 01:20:28,088 Say this to the world. And he had a lot of lady fans, and he 1942 01:20:28,090 --> 01:20:30,190 Had a lot of lady fans, and he told me that he just didn't 1943 01:20:30,192 --> 01:20:32,760 Told me that he just didn't want to upset the 1944 01:20:34,329 --> 01:20:38,598 World. I don't really know what I 1945 01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:41,001 I don't really know what I want to say. I'm going to 1946 01:20:41,003 --> 01:20:43,603 Want to say. I'm going to always respect 1947 01:20:44,906 --> 01:20:48,508 Whatever position he took. Questions about my 1948 01:20:48,510 --> 01:20:51,144 questions about my sexuality. Well, I suppose 1949 01:20:51,579 --> 01:20:54,948 Just always be questions. Let me tell you who I owe answers 1950 01:20:54,950 --> 01:20:57,217 Me tell you who I owe answers to. What I owe you is my music, 1951 01:20:57,219 --> 01:21:01,588 To. What I owe you is my music, my talent, my best effort. You 1952 01:21:01,590 --> 01:21:04,124 My talent, my best effort. You know, that's all. I will 1953 01:21:04,325 --> 01:21:09,529 Neither deny or confirm that any such rumors about personal 1954 01:21:09,531 --> 01:21:12,032 Any such rumors about personal things like that are true or 1955 01:21:12,034 --> 01:21:14,167 Things like that are true or untrue. I won't give the 1956 01:21:14,169 --> 01:21:16,437 Untrue. I won't give the satisfaction of a denial, 1957 01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:18,272 Satisfaction of a denial, because that is a submission of 1958 01:21:18,274 --> 01:21:19,172 Because that is a submission of sorts. I wouldn't even address 1959 01:21:19,174 --> 01:21:21,808 Sorts. I wouldn't even address it. I would just say, mind your 1960 01:21:21,810 --> 01:21:24,611 It. I would just say, mind your own business. That's my 1961 01:21:24,613 --> 01:21:27,147 Own business. That's my response to that. 1962 01:21:29,050 --> 01:21:32,052 You seem to be at a weight that you're comfortable with. 1963 01:21:32,054 --> 01:21:33,386 That you're comfortable with. How did you lose it? And are 1964 01:21:33,388 --> 01:21:34,288 how did you lose it? And are you feeling better these days 1965 01:21:34,290 --> 01:21:36,189 You feeling better these days than you have in a long time? 1966 01:21:36,191 --> 01:21:37,057 Than you have in a long time? I am feeling better. I'm 1967 01:21:37,059 --> 01:21:39,025 I am feeling better. I'm somewhere in the middle right 1968 01:21:39,027 --> 01:21:40,461 Somewhere in the middle right now, but I'm feeling better 1969 01:21:40,463 --> 01:21:42,195 Now, but I'm feeling better than I than I do when I'm 1970 01:21:42,197 --> 01:21:44,498 Than I than I do when I'm really obese. I lost a 120 1971 01:21:44,500 --> 01:21:47,033 Really obese. I lost a 120 pounds put on a some fraction 1972 01:21:47,035 --> 01:21:49,870 Pounds put on a some fraction of that. I'm not giving any 1973 01:21:49,872 --> 01:21:50,370 Of that. I'm not giving any specifics. 1974 01:21:50,372 --> 01:21:51,071 Specifics. You look great at whatever 1975 01:21:51,073 --> 01:21:52,072 you look great at whatever weight you're currently at. 1976 01:21:52,074 --> 01:21:54,675 Weight you're currently at. Luther vandross, thank you so 1977 01:21:55,043 --> 01:21:57,210 Much for joining us. So the whole thing of being 1978 01:21:57,212 --> 01:21:58,411 so the whole thing of being fat and being thin and being 1979 01:21:58,413 --> 01:21:59,780 Fat and being thin and being fat and being thin, we always 1980 01:21:59,782 --> 01:22:01,314 Fat and being thin, we always told him, dude, you can't keep 1981 01:22:01,316 --> 01:22:02,949 Told him, dude, you can't keep this up. Can't you just find 1982 01:22:02,951 --> 01:22:05,085 This up. Can't you just find out where your basic? Because 1983 01:22:05,087 --> 01:22:06,753 Out where your basic? Because everybody normalizes at a 1984 01:22:06,755 --> 01:22:09,456 Everybody normalizes at a certain place. But if you have 1985 01:22:09,458 --> 01:22:11,325 Certain place. But if you have diabetes, you don't know what 1986 01:22:11,327 --> 01:22:12,693 Diabetes, you don't know what anybody's negotiating with at 1987 01:22:12,695 --> 01:22:17,464 Anybody's negotiating with at any one time. And so we must 1988 01:22:17,466 --> 01:22:20,000 Any one time. And so we must not forget that above all 1989 01:22:20,234 --> 01:22:24,505 Things, luther was a diabetic. You know, we all worried 1990 01:22:24,507 --> 01:22:26,807 you know, we all worried about it because it's how many 1991 01:22:26,809 --> 01:22:28,408 About it because it's how many times can your body take that? 1992 01:22:28,410 --> 01:22:29,543 Times can your body take that? And he says, robin, you don't 1993 01:22:29,545 --> 01:22:32,112 And he says, robin, you don't have the same problem I have. 1994 01:22:32,114 --> 01:22:34,080 Have the same problem I have. He said, I obsess about food. 1995 01:22:34,082 --> 01:22:35,415 He said, I obsess about food. He said, I'm thinking about 1996 01:22:35,417 --> 01:22:37,684 He said, I'm thinking about food from the time I wake up 1997 01:22:37,686 --> 01:22:40,821 Food from the time I wake up until the time I go to sleep. 1998 01:22:40,823 --> 01:22:43,256 Until the time I go to sleep. And I just said, whoa I read in 1999 01:22:43,258 --> 01:22:45,292 And I just said, whoa I read in a magazine once, this is the 2000 01:22:45,294 --> 01:22:46,092 A magazine once, this is the weirdest question I'm sure 2001 01:22:46,094 --> 01:22:47,394 Weirdest question I'm sure you've ever heard, but I read 2002 01:22:47,396 --> 01:22:48,729 You've ever heard, but I read in a magazine one of the 2003 01:22:48,731 --> 01:22:50,831 In a magazine one of the strangest things you had ever 2004 01:22:50,833 --> 01:22:51,532 Strangest things you had ever eaten was a hamburger between 2005 01:22:51,534 --> 01:22:52,298 Eaten was a hamburger between two glazed donuts because you 2006 01:22:52,300 --> 01:22:53,466 Two glazed donuts because you couldn't find any hamburger 2007 01:22:53,468 --> 01:22:53,934 Couldn't find any hamburger rolls. 2008 01:22:53,936 --> 01:22:54,768 Rolls. Is that a true story? And 2009 01:22:54,770 --> 01:22:57,137 is that a true story? And how 2010 01:22:57,338 --> 01:22:59,940 Disgusting was that? Disgusting. Oh no. No, that 2011 01:22:59,942 --> 01:23:00,473 disgusting. Oh no. No, that was good. 2012 01:23:00,475 --> 01:23:02,810 Was good. You take somebody who was as 2013 01:23:02,812 --> 01:23:07,347 you take somebody who was as huge a talent and as 2014 01:23:07,349 --> 01:23:08,081 Huge a talent and as accomplished as he was, and 2015 01:23:08,083 --> 01:23:10,717 Accomplished as he was, and they just sort of, like, shrunk 2016 01:23:10,719 --> 01:23:11,918 They just sort of, like, shrunk him down to that, to a 2017 01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:14,421 Him down to that, to a soundbite about his 2018 01:23:14,856 --> 01:23:18,425 Weight. It's like it absolutely irritated him, as it 2019 01:23:18,427 --> 01:23:19,059 Absolutely irritated him, as it should have. 2020 01:23:19,061 --> 01:23:21,361 Should have. A lot of people make a big 2021 01:23:21,363 --> 01:23:22,563 a lot of people make a big deal out of your weight. Does 2022 01:23:22,565 --> 01:23:24,931 Deal out of your weight. Does it bother you? 2023 01:23:24,933 --> 01:23:26,033 It bother you? Yeah, it's bothersome right 2024 01:23:26,035 --> 01:23:27,267 yeah, it's bothersome right now. Now that you're asking 2025 01:23:27,269 --> 01:23:28,101 Now. Now that you're asking me, it's bothersome because I 2026 01:23:28,103 --> 01:23:29,736 Me, it's bothersome because I don't enjoy talking about it a 2027 01:23:29,738 --> 01:23:30,904 Don't enjoy talking about it a lot. You know, my record 2028 01:23:30,906 --> 01:23:32,005 Lot. You know, my record company, j records, used to 2029 01:23:32,007 --> 01:23:32,839 Company, j records, used to always insist, oh, you got it. 2030 01:23:32,841 --> 01:23:33,640 Always insist, oh, you got it. Because I used to say, I don't 2031 01:23:33,642 --> 01:23:35,141 Because I used to say, I don't want to talk about that. And I 2032 01:23:35,143 --> 01:23:36,309 Want to talk about that. And I don't really want to speak on 2033 01:23:36,311 --> 01:23:38,111 Don't really want to speak on that. You know, that's a 2034 01:23:38,113 --> 01:23:40,714 That. You know, that's a personal struggle. And and they 2035 01:23:40,716 --> 01:23:41,448 Personal struggle. And and they would always say, yeah, but it 2036 01:23:41,450 --> 01:23:42,582 Would always say, yeah, but it it's like a human interest 2037 01:23:42,584 --> 01:23:43,583 It's like a human interest story and everybody wants to 2038 01:23:43,585 --> 01:23:44,251 Story and everybody wants to talk about it. And I said, 2039 01:23:44,253 --> 01:23:45,151 Talk about it. And I said, yeah, but what if I talk about 2040 01:23:45,153 --> 01:23:46,787 Yeah, but what if I talk about it and gain any of it back. You 2041 01:23:46,789 --> 01:23:48,889 It and gain any of it back. You know, then I have to carry that 2042 01:23:48,891 --> 01:23:51,458 Know, then I have to carry that type of paranoia 2043 01:23:53,895 --> 01:23:56,396 His weight was like this huge story. 2044 01:23:56,398 --> 01:23:57,130 Story. I mean, it broke my heart 2045 01:23:57,132 --> 01:23:59,399 I mean, it broke my heart when, you know, when he finally 2046 01:23:59,401 --> 01:24:01,401 When, you know, when he finally managed his weight, when he was 2047 01:24:01,403 --> 01:24:04,071 Managed his weight, when he was maintaining his weight, they 2048 01:24:04,073 --> 01:24:05,171 Maintaining his weight, they decided to promote the album. 2049 01:24:05,173 --> 01:24:06,706 Decided to promote the album. It would all be about his 2050 01:24:06,708 --> 01:24:08,541 It would all be about his weight loss story. It was too 2051 01:24:08,543 --> 01:24:09,943 Weight loss story. It was too much and it broke and he 2052 01:24:09,945 --> 01:24:11,378 Much and it broke and he started to gain the weight 2053 01:24:11,380 --> 01:24:13,046 Started to gain the weight back. And it was so sad that 2054 01:24:13,048 --> 01:24:17,951 Back. And it was so sad that there was such a fixation about 2055 01:24:18,453 --> 01:24:21,621 His weight. That was heartbreaking. 2056 01:24:22,490 --> 01:24:26,026 Luther, big luther though, big luther, not little luther. 2057 01:24:26,028 --> 01:24:27,193 Big luther, not little luther. Oh, I don't do little 2058 01:24:27,195 --> 01:24:27,661 oh, I don't do little luther. 2059 01:24:27,663 --> 01:24:29,062 Luther. I don't do little luther, 2060 01:24:29,064 --> 01:24:31,265 I don't do little luther, I, like big curl. 2061 01:24:31,267 --> 01:24:32,633 I, like big curl. Ain't quite right, luther. 2062 01:24:32,635 --> 01:24:35,202 Ain't quite right, luther. That's the one I like. 2063 01:24:36,271 --> 01:24:37,804 That's. Here's a man who was 2064 01:24:37,806 --> 01:24:38,738 here's a man who was probably like, I need to get 2065 01:24:38,740 --> 01:24:40,540 Probably like, I need to get healthy. But it's tough because 2066 01:24:40,542 --> 01:24:43,243 Healthy. But it's tough because when we see you and we love 2067 01:24:43,245 --> 01:24:44,844 When we see you and we love you, we love you for what we 2068 01:24:44,846 --> 01:24:45,979 You, we love you for what we see and love, right then, if 2069 01:24:45,981 --> 01:24:47,648 See and love, right then, if something changes, you know how 2070 01:24:47,650 --> 01:24:49,249 Something changes, you know how black people, you lose weight, 2071 01:24:49,251 --> 01:24:50,684 Black people, you lose weight, man. You okay? You know black 2072 01:24:50,686 --> 01:24:51,851 Man. You okay? You know black people. You can't lose no 2073 01:24:51,853 --> 01:24:54,454 People. You can't lose no weight. You okay? You're sick. 2074 01:24:54,456 --> 01:24:55,489 Weight. You okay? You're sick. If we were to be able to talk 2075 01:24:55,491 --> 01:24:58,058 If we were to be able to talk to luther at that time, as 2076 01:24:58,060 --> 01:24:59,059 To luther at that time, as fans, we'd be able to say 2077 01:24:59,061 --> 01:25:01,662 Fans, we'd be able to say whatever weight you are, we 2078 01:25:01,664 --> 01:25:04,665 Whatever weight you are, we don't care. We just. We just 2079 01:25:04,667 --> 01:25:07,167 Don't care. We just. We just love you. 2080 01:25:09,269 --> 01:25:14,407 We worried about him because when luther was under stress is 2081 01:25:14,409 --> 01:25:16,476 When luther was under stress is when he would eat. I'm supposed 2082 01:25:16,478 --> 01:25:17,477 When he would eat. I'm supposed to ignore this camera, but I'm 2083 01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:19,012 To ignore this camera, but I'm going to wait, wait, wait. He 2084 01:25:19,014 --> 01:25:20,580 Going to wait, wait, wait. He was back and forth at the 2085 01:25:20,582 --> 01:25:23,016 Was back and forth at the studio 24 over seven. He was 2086 01:25:23,018 --> 01:25:25,585 Studio 24 over seven. He was working on 2087 01:25:25,786 --> 01:25:29,656 That record like crazy just to get it done, to get it out. 2088 01:25:29,658 --> 01:25:30,824 Get it done, to get it out. He called me in the middle 2089 01:25:30,826 --> 01:25:32,192 he called me in the middle of the night one night, like at 2090 01:25:32,194 --> 01:25:33,026 Of the night one night, like at 3:00 in the morning. He's. 2091 01:25:33,028 --> 01:25:34,328 3:00 in the morning. He's. He's in the studio at hit 2092 01:25:34,330 --> 01:25:35,329 He's in the studio at hit factory when it was on 54th 2093 01:25:35,331 --> 01:25:37,097 Factory when it was on 54th street. He says, come 2094 01:25:37,099 --> 01:25:37,931 Street. He says, come downstairs, I want you to take 2095 01:25:37,933 --> 01:25:39,866 Downstairs, I want you to take a ride with me. I said, okay, 2096 01:25:39,868 --> 01:25:40,968 A ride with me. I said, okay, fine, get in the car. He says, 2097 01:25:40,970 --> 01:25:41,801 Fine, get in the car. He says, I got this new song I want to 2098 01:25:41,803 --> 01:25:43,870 I got this new song I want to play for 2099 01:25:45,039 --> 01:25:50,276 You. At the end of it, my face is wet. I said, what is that? 2100 01:25:50,278 --> 01:25:51,578 Is wet. I said, what is that? He said, this is going to be my 2101 01:25:51,580 --> 01:25:52,345 He said, this is going to be my career song. He said, I'm 2102 01:25:52,347 --> 01:25:53,045 Career song. He said, I'm probably going to have a 2103 01:25:53,047 --> 01:25:55,182 Probably going to have a struggle with the rest of the 2104 01:25:55,184 --> 01:25:57,217 Struggle with the rest of the record company, he said. But 2105 01:25:57,219 --> 01:25:59,052 Record company, he said. But this is my career song. 2106 01:25:59,054 --> 01:26:01,621 This is my career song. Back when I was a 2107 01:26:04,158 --> 01:26:07,260 Child. Before 2108 01:26:07,996 --> 01:26:13,996 Life removed all the innocence. My father would lift me. High. 2109 01:26:16,739 --> 01:26:19,172 My father would lift me. High. And dance with my mother and 2110 01:26:19,174 --> 01:26:24,745 And dance with my mother and me. And then spin me around 2111 01:26:26,748 --> 01:26:31,351 Till I fell asleep. Then up the stairs he would carry me. And 2112 01:26:33,888 --> 01:26:37,057 I knew for sure I 2113 01:26:37,458 --> 01:26:43,458 Was. Loved. If I could. When he played it I was in 2114 01:26:44,033 --> 01:26:44,564 when he played it I was in awe. 2115 01:26:44,566 --> 01:26:46,332 Awe. Because how could he 2116 01:26:46,334 --> 01:26:47,033 because how could he remember these things? 2117 01:26:47,035 --> 01:26:47,734 Remember these things? You know, he said, I wrote 2118 01:26:47,736 --> 01:26:50,570 you know, he said, I wrote this, listen. And then when I 2119 01:26:50,572 --> 01:26:53,339 This, listen. And then when I heard it as a saying, it just 2120 01:26:53,341 --> 01:26:59,341 Heard it as a saying, it just it grabbed me and how I'd love, 2121 01:26:59,381 --> 01:26:59,579 It grabbed me and how I'd love, love. 2122 01:27:00,081 --> 01:27:01,982 Love to dance 2123 01:27:02,450 --> 01:27:03,950 With my father again. Him doing dance with my 2124 01:27:03,952 --> 01:27:06,786 him doing dance with my father. It's almost like he put 2125 01:27:06,788 --> 01:27:07,988 Father. It's almost like he put his own flag in the sand. It's 2126 01:27:07,990 --> 01:27:09,122 His own flag in the sand. It's like, I've got this song, 2127 01:27:09,124 --> 01:27:10,657 Like, I've got this song, y'all are going to put this 2128 01:27:10,659 --> 01:27:11,925 Y'all are going to put this out. And they did. And he was 2129 01:27:11,927 --> 01:27:14,428 Out. And they did. And he was right. And I'd hear how 2130 01:27:14,595 --> 01:27:16,729 My mother cried for him. They could have chose something else 2131 01:27:16,731 --> 01:27:17,664 Could have chose something else in the story, might have been 2132 01:27:17,666 --> 01:27:18,832 In the story, might have been different. He might have never 2133 01:27:18,834 --> 01:27:19,966 Different. He might have never had a number one record. We 2134 01:27:19,968 --> 01:27:21,334 Had a number one record. We might not have ever heard this 2135 01:27:21,336 --> 01:27:23,703 Might not have ever heard this emotion that speaks to 2136 01:27:23,705 --> 01:27:26,273 Emotion that speaks to everyone. Every night I fall 2137 01:27:26,275 --> 01:27:29,075 Everyone. Every night I fall asleep and this is all I ever. 2138 01:27:29,610 --> 01:27:35,610 Dream I just was crying, man, because, you 2139 01:27:35,817 --> 01:27:37,784 Know, he wrote it from such an honest place. 2140 01:27:37,786 --> 01:27:40,153 Honest place. And he had been. Refining 2141 01:27:40,155 --> 01:27:42,355 and he had been. Refining this, this song in his head 2142 01:28:00,941 --> 01:28:04,678 Go to the new apartment where luther was, and we were still 2143 01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:05,211 Luther was, and we were still renovating. 2144 01:28:05,213 --> 01:28:05,945 Renovating. I rang the doorbell and 2145 01:28:05,947 --> 01:28:07,614 I rang the doorbell and luther didn't pick up, which 2146 01:28:07,616 --> 01:28:09,382 Luther didn't pick up, which was really odd. He was always 2147 01:28:09,384 --> 01:28:13,987 Was really odd. He was always on time. So I had to go see 2148 01:28:13,989 --> 01:28:15,788 On time. So I had to go see what was going on, and we had 2149 01:28:15,790 --> 01:28:17,257 What was going on, and we had just replaced the doors and 2150 01:28:17,259 --> 01:28:19,592 Just replaced the doors and they were like these beautiful 2151 01:28:19,594 --> 01:28:21,061 They were like these beautiful mahogany doors. And so we broke 2152 01:28:21,063 --> 01:28:22,962 Mahogany doors. And so we broke down the door and I was 2153 01:28:22,964 --> 01:28:24,597 Down the door and I was screaming as we were breaking 2154 01:28:24,599 --> 01:28:25,866 Screaming as we were breaking down the door. I'm so sorry, 2155 01:28:25,868 --> 01:28:27,400 Down the door. I'm so sorry, luther. I know I'm out of 2156 01:28:27,402 --> 01:28:28,835 Luther. I know I'm out of control. I'm sorry to break 2157 01:28:28,837 --> 01:28:29,635 Control. I'm sorry to break down the door. I know you just 2158 01:28:29,637 --> 01:28:30,403 Down the door. I know you just had it done. You can take it 2159 01:28:30,405 --> 01:28:30,904 Had it done. You can take it out of my paycheck, but I 2160 01:28:30,906 --> 01:28:32,272 Out of my paycheck, but I don't know what's going on, 2161 01:28:32,274 --> 01:28:33,439 Don't know what's going on, and you're not answering. And 2162 01:28:33,441 --> 01:28:35,608 And you're not answering. And I just need to see what's going 2163 01:28:35,610 --> 01:28:38,111 I just need to see what's going on. 2164 01:28:38,312 --> 01:28:43,083 And it was quiet, so I walked around and I walked down the 2165 01:28:43,085 --> 01:28:44,851 Around and I walked down the hallway, and I looked to the 2166 01:28:44,853 --> 01:28:47,420 Hallway, and I looked to the right, to 2167 01:28:48,756 --> 01:28:51,858 The bedroom. 2168 01:28:53,460 --> 01:28:56,462 Seoul singer luther vandross is still hospitalized in 2169 01:28:56,464 --> 01:28:57,864 Is still hospitalized in intensive care in a new york 2170 01:28:57,866 --> 01:28:59,533 Intensive care in a new york city hospital after r&b legend 2171 01:28:59,535 --> 01:29:00,833 City hospital after r&b legend luther vandross suffered a 2172 01:29:00,835 --> 01:29:03,269 Luther vandross suffered a massive stroke that left him 2173 01:29:03,271 --> 01:29:04,003 Massive stroke that left him hospitalized in critical 2174 01:29:04,005 --> 01:29:04,404 Hospitalized in critical condition. 2175 01:29:04,406 --> 01:29:05,004 Condition. Those were some difficult 2176 01:29:05,006 --> 01:29:06,472 those were some difficult times to see. The the strongest 2177 01:29:06,474 --> 01:29:10,343 Times to see. The the strongest person you knew to be knocked 2178 01:29:10,345 --> 01:29:13,213 Person you knew to be knocked to his knees. You know, in a 2179 01:29:13,215 --> 01:29:15,481 To his knees. You know, in a health situation, the last 2180 01:29:15,483 --> 01:29:17,850 Health situation, the last thing that anybody thought, 2181 01:29:17,852 --> 01:29:20,887 Thing that anybody thought, including him, is that that 2182 01:29:20,889 --> 01:29:21,387 Including him, is that that would happen. 2183 01:29:21,655 --> 01:29:24,057 How devastatingly ironic is it that that song is number one 2184 01:29:24,059 --> 01:29:26,659 It that that song is number one on the pop charts? And he 2185 01:29:26,661 --> 01:29:27,527 On the pop charts? And he can't even appreciate it 2186 01:29:27,529 --> 01:29:29,862 Can't even appreciate it because he was in and out of 2187 01:29:29,864 --> 01:29:34,334 Because he was in and out of that coma? You know, and the 2188 01:29:37,872 --> 01:29:40,540 Grammy goes to. Richard marx and luther 2189 01:29:40,542 --> 01:29:42,542 richard marx and luther vandross for dance with my 2190 01:29:42,544 --> 01:29:45,145 Vandross for dance with my father, luther 2191 01:29:45,813 --> 01:29:50,784 Vandross. I have had the honor for the 2192 01:29:50,786 --> 01:29:53,319 I have had the honor for the last 13 years to write songs 2193 01:29:53,321 --> 01:29:55,154 Last 13 years to write songs with luther, my friend, who I 2194 01:29:55,156 --> 01:29:56,489 With luther, my friend, who I love, who I wish was here with 2195 01:29:56,491 --> 01:29:57,724 Love, who I wish was here with me because he'd be whispering 2196 01:29:57,726 --> 01:30:00,827 Me because he'd be whispering to me about what everybody's 2197 01:30:00,829 --> 01:30:02,269 To me about what everybody's wearing. 2198 01:30:02,830 --> 01:30:06,699 You all know how ridiculously talented he is, but some of you 2199 01:30:06,701 --> 01:30:08,501 Talented he is, but some of you don't know that. He's also one 2200 01:30:08,503 --> 01:30:10,971 Don't know that. He's also one of the funniest, kindest, 2201 01:30:10,973 --> 01:30:11,771 Of the funniest, kindest, brightest people on the face of 2202 01:30:11,773 --> 01:30:13,939 Brightest people on the face of the earth. I thank the academy 2203 01:30:13,941 --> 01:30:16,309 The earth. I thank the academy so much for honoring not only 2204 01:30:16,311 --> 01:30:18,177 So much for honoring not only our song dance with my father, 2205 01:30:18,179 --> 01:30:18,812 Our song dance with my father, but luther himself tonight, 2206 01:30:18,814 --> 01:30:19,579 But luther himself tonight, because no one is more 2207 01:30:19,581 --> 01:30:22,082 Because no one is more deserving 2208 01:30:27,555 --> 01:30:31,190 I went right from the grammys to see him because I wanted to 2209 01:30:31,192 --> 01:30:32,792 To see him because I wanted to celebrate with him. But, you 2210 01:30:32,794 --> 01:30:34,294 Celebrate with him. But, you know, obviously he was in bad 2211 01:30:34,296 --> 01:30:37,530 Know, obviously he was in bad shape, but we he did his 2212 01:30:37,532 --> 01:30:38,965 Shape, but we he did his exercises and he did this 2213 01:30:38,967 --> 01:30:40,000 Exercises and he did this therapy. And then we ended up 2214 01:30:40,002 --> 01:30:43,002 Therapy. And then we ended up coming back to his room and and 2215 01:30:43,004 --> 01:30:45,171 Coming back to his room and and we did have a pretty amazing 2216 01:30:45,173 --> 01:30:47,774 We did have a pretty amazing conversation about 2217 01:30:49,877 --> 01:30:53,613 Winning that grammy. 2218 01:30:53,814 --> 01:30:57,784 I said, luther, it's. Everything that we could have 2219 01:30:57,786 --> 01:31:00,353 Everything that we could have hoped 2220 01:31:00,755 --> 01:31:06,660 For. I mean, it is everybody's favorite song. Favorite record. 2221 01:31:06,662 --> 01:31:09,195 Favorite song. Favorite record. We're going platinum 2222 01:31:10,131 --> 01:31:16,131 And greater, and smile came on his face. He said, I love it 2223 01:31:17,272 --> 01:31:20,173 His face. He said, I love it the doctors were shocked. I 2224 01:31:20,175 --> 01:31:24,344 The doctors were shocked. I mean, he understood every word 2225 01:31:24,346 --> 01:31:28,848 Mean, he understood every word that I was saying it was such a 2226 01:31:28,850 --> 01:31:31,551 That I was saying it was such a wonderful sign. At the time of 2227 01:31:31,553 --> 01:31:37,090 Wonderful sign. At the time of recovery was a possibility. 2228 01:31:41,062 --> 01:31:43,596 I want to know what you 2229 01:31:43,797 --> 01:31:48,267 Want to say to your many, many, many, many fans. 2230 01:31:48,269 --> 01:31:52,972 Many, many fans. I want to thank them for 2231 01:31:52,974 --> 01:31:55,875 I want to thank them for even caring as it was a 2232 01:31:55,877 --> 01:31:56,642 Even caring as it was a wonderful feeling every day. 2233 01:31:56,644 --> 01:31:56,876 Wonderful feeling every day. Do you 2234 01:31:57,078 --> 01:32:02,081 Say, I want to get a little better at something well, right 2235 01:32:02,083 --> 01:32:02,515 Better at something well, right now what? 2236 01:32:02,517 --> 01:32:05,919 Now what? I want to get better at 2237 01:32:07,054 --> 01:32:13,054 Is, um. Living with this, living with these thoughts, 2238 01:32:13,094 --> 01:32:15,461 Living with these thoughts, living with this, you know, 2239 01:32:15,463 --> 01:32:20,166 Living with this, you know, feeling of, uh, of the last 2240 01:32:21,369 --> 01:32:24,504 Chapter. 2241 01:32:26,807 --> 01:32:30,744 Now, I got a call from the hospital saying you need to 2242 01:32:30,746 --> 01:32:31,811 Hospital saying you need to come here. I said, what? 2243 01:32:31,813 --> 01:32:33,913 Come here. I said, what? What's the matter? They said, 2244 01:32:33,915 --> 01:32:34,814 What's the matter? They said, well, he's he's not breathing. 2245 01:32:34,816 --> 01:32:35,548 Well, he's he's not breathing. I said, what do you mean he's 2246 01:32:35,550 --> 01:32:36,316 I said, what do you mean he's not breathing? I said, what 2247 01:32:36,318 --> 01:32:37,917 Not breathing? I said, what does that mean? They said, you 2248 01:32:37,919 --> 01:32:40,486 Does that mean? They said, you just need to 2249 01:32:42,022 --> 01:32:43,756 Come. We went into the room where 2250 01:32:43,758 --> 01:32:46,226 we went into the room where his 2251 01:32:46,994 --> 01:32:50,096 Body was. And 2252 01:32:51,365 --> 01:32:54,534 We saw our friend. 2253 01:32:55,703 --> 01:33:00,974 I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 2254 01:33:01,175 --> 01:33:03,409 I just remember us going into the room. And me, robin 2255 01:33:03,411 --> 01:33:06,346 Into the room. And me, robin and carlos just holding him. 2256 01:33:06,348 --> 01:33:08,181 And carlos just holding him. Just. Just holding him. Just 2257 01:33:08,183 --> 01:33:10,683 Just. Just holding him. Just like. This is crazy 2258 01:33:18,659 --> 01:33:21,828 All right, all right. 2259 01:33:28,636 --> 01:33:31,437 O jesus will be. Waiting 2260 01:33:34,407 --> 01:33:39,579 For me. I think I was just too full 2261 01:33:39,947 --> 01:33:44,917 At luther's. Service to. 2262 01:33:45,252 --> 01:33:50,857 I can't tell you who else did what or what or 2263 01:33:51,058 --> 01:33:56,596 It was just overwhelming for me. 2264 01:33:59,066 --> 01:34:01,567 Brazil me john avlon. Russell, are you coming up 2265 01:34:01,569 --> 01:34:04,170 russell, are you coming up alive? 2266 01:34:04,172 --> 01:34:09,843 Alive? I thought it was real. Being 2267 01:34:09,845 --> 01:34:12,311 I thought it was real. Being asked to speak. We will all 2268 01:34:12,313 --> 01:34:13,613 Asked to speak. We will all miss him. But as has been said, 2269 01:34:13,615 --> 01:34:15,214 Miss him. But as has been said, and probably will be said over 2270 01:34:15,216 --> 01:34:18,084 And probably will be said over and over again, his legacy 2271 01:34:22,156 --> 01:34:27,627 Will live on forever. It was something that had to be done. 2272 01:34:27,629 --> 01:34:29,549 Something that had to be done. We got through it. 2273 01:34:31,098 --> 01:34:34,234 I love all of 2274 01:34:35,636 --> 01:34:40,073 Bahamas is the greatest power of them. 2275 01:34:40,075 --> 01:34:42,909 Of them. All. Love. Them. Honor the 2276 01:34:42,911 --> 01:34:45,278 all. Love. Them. Honor the power. 2277 01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:47,980 Power. That day of his 2278 01:34:48,181 --> 01:34:52,351 Funeral was so beautiful. Everybody sang. We got up and 2279 01:34:52,353 --> 01:34:54,987 Everybody sang. We got up and sang. Stevie was singing alicia 2280 01:34:54,989 --> 01:34:59,859 Sang. Stevie was singing alicia keys. Everybody. Freddie 2281 01:35:00,094 --> 01:35:05,398 Jackson, everybody was there. And we made it a celebration. 2282 01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:07,967 And we made it a celebration. And so greatest 2283 01:35:10,137 --> 01:35:12,238 Power. Is going on. I'm gonna love 2284 01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:13,940 is going on. I'm gonna love everybody has something that 2285 01:35:13,942 --> 01:35:16,409 Everybody has something that they're supposed to do in this 2286 01:35:16,411 --> 01:35:16,876 They're supposed to do in this life. 2287 01:35:16,878 --> 01:35:17,710 Life. My uncle had a job to do 2288 01:35:17,712 --> 01:35:21,881 my uncle had a job to do while he was here, and he did 2289 01:35:21,883 --> 01:35:24,417 While he was here, and he did it. He fulfilled his 2290 01:35:25,219 --> 01:35:29,455 Obligation to this earth. You can't think of that man 2291 01:35:29,957 --> 01:35:34,127 Without thinking about love. Thank you for coming out and 2292 01:35:34,129 --> 01:35:36,696 Thank you for coming out and celebrating this awesome 2293 01:35:36,698 --> 01:35:38,431 Celebrating this awesome occasion with us. The store 2294 01:35:38,433 --> 01:35:40,700 Occasion with us. The store will be here for many, many 2295 01:35:40,702 --> 01:35:41,567 Will be here for many, many moons for many, many people to 2296 01:35:41,569 --> 01:35:45,705 Moons for many, many people to come back. And when they see 2297 01:35:45,707 --> 01:35:47,907 Come back. And when they see his name. They're going to 2298 01:35:47,909 --> 01:35:50,476 His name. They're going to remember why they love him. 2299 01:35:50,878 --> 01:35:56,878 Love has truly been good to me. 2300 01:35:57,751 --> 01:36:01,921 Not even one had. Day or minute have I had since you've 2301 01:36:01,923 --> 01:36:04,424 Minute have I had since you've come my 2302 01:36:04,858 --> 01:36:08,194 Way. I hope you 2303 01:36:08,462 --> 01:36:11,531 Know I'm gladly 2304 01:36:11,932 --> 01:36:17,069 Go anywhere you take me. It's so amazing to. Be 2305 01:36:17,071 --> 01:36:21,908 it's so amazing to. Be loved. I'd follow you to the 2306 01:36:22,343 --> 01:36:26,379 Moon in the sky. Above. If you say aretha, you know 2307 01:36:26,381 --> 01:36:27,547 if you say aretha, you know who we're talking about. If 2308 01:36:27,549 --> 01:36:29,549 Who we're talking about. If you say marvin, you hear a 2309 01:36:29,551 --> 01:36:30,383 You say marvin, you hear a sound in your head. Stevie. 2310 01:36:30,385 --> 01:36:32,485 Sound in your head. Stevie. Definitely hear like a few 2311 01:36:32,487 --> 01:36:34,620 Definitely hear like a few thousand. Yeah. And if you say 2312 01:36:34,622 --> 01:36:35,354 Thousand. Yeah. And if you say luther, we all know exactly 2313 01:36:35,356 --> 01:36:39,993 Luther, we all know exactly what you're talking about. Got 2314 01:36:39,995 --> 01:36:42,362 What you're talking about. Got to tell you, I can't think of 2315 01:36:42,364 --> 01:36:44,764 To tell you, I can't think of anybody that is near to him. 2316 01:36:44,766 --> 01:36:46,932 Anybody that is near to him. And his uniqueness and his 2317 01:36:46,934 --> 01:36:48,368 and his uniqueness and his talent. Just even the texture 2318 01:36:48,370 --> 01:36:49,435 Talent. Just even the texture of his voice. You only come 2319 01:36:49,437 --> 01:36:50,936 Of his voice. You only come across an artist like luther 2320 01:36:50,938 --> 01:36:53,439 Across an artist like luther vandross, like once in a 2321 01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:57,577 Lifetime. And it's so. Amazing. Amazing. I could stay 2322 01:36:57,579 --> 01:36:59,512 amazing. I could stay forever. 2323 01:36:59,913 --> 01:37:05,518 Stay. Forever. Here in love and not leave you. Never. 2324 01:37:05,919 --> 01:37:09,088 Cause we've got a love 2325 01:37:09,757 --> 01:37:12,892 Truly. It's amazing, amazing 2326 01:37:13,527 --> 01:37:18,731 Love brought us together. Together I would leave you now 2327 01:37:18,733 --> 01:37:21,300 Together I would leave you now and never guess. We've got 2328 01:37:21,501 --> 01:37:27,306 Amazing love. They say things take time 2329 01:37:27,308 --> 01:37:27,807 they say things take time and effort. 2330 01:37:27,809 --> 01:37:29,409 And effort. But it's worth the wait I 2331 01:37:29,411 --> 01:37:31,410 but it's worth the wait I can tell some stories. 2332 01:37:31,412 --> 01:37:33,613 Can tell some stories. I'm so excited. 2333 01:37:33,615 --> 01:37:34,513 I'm so excited. Believe twitter brought the 2334 01:37:34,515 --> 01:37:35,548 believe twitter brought the world together and the world 2335 01:37:35,550 --> 01:37:37,116 World together and the world was not ready to see itself. 2336 01:37:37,118 --> 01:37:38,584 Was not ready to see itself. You read the comments. 2337 01:37:38,586 --> 01:37:39,318 You read the comments. Yeah, I might recommend that 2338 01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:40,986 yeah, I might recommend that you don't. Yeah, that's how I 2339 01:37:40,988 --> 01:37:41,454 You don't. Yeah, that's how I get by. 2340 01:37:41,456 --> 01:37:42,421 Get by. We never backed away. 2341 01:37:42,423 --> 01:37:45,524 We never backed away. He never stepped down. Oh, 2342 01:37:45,526 --> 01:37:47,336 he never stepped down. Oh, that's how I give up. 2343 01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:49,796 I feel at home here. 2344 01:37:50,063 --> 01:37:55,268 Lord. That's how I get by. 2345 01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:03,375 I want to be the greatest player that I could possibly 201947

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