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Remembered as just a
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Basketball player. Kobe
premieres January 25th
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On cnn.
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And I'm running. And
now we want to do I want
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and now we want to do I want
to do my favorite ballad and
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To do my favorite ballad and
beautiful love song on the new
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Beautiful love song on the
new album. It goes like
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This one, two, three.
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Hey hey, we have to have
a party right away. Right
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Up top. Hey, come on
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Hey, go! Stop at a
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Stop. Yeah, we're on the move.
Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Ain't no
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Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Ain't
no stopping us now. We got
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The groove. Oh, there
have been so many
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oh, there have been so many
things that have held us down.
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Things that have held us down.
But now it looks like things
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but now it looks like things
are finally coming around.
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Are finally coming around.
Yeah, I know we've got a
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yeah, I know we've got a long,
long way to go. And where
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Long, long way to go.
And where we'll end up.
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We'll end up. I don't
know, but we won't
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I don't know, but we won't let
nothing hold us back. We're
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Let nothing hold us back. We're
gonna get ourselves together.
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Gonna get ourselves together.
We're gonna polish up our
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we're gonna polish up our
act. Yeah. And if you've ever
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Act. Yeah. And if you've ever
been held down before, I know
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Been held down before, I know
that you refuse to be held down
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That you refuse to
be held down anymore.
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Anymore. Yeah,
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Yeah. Don't you let nothing,
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Nothing, nothing stand
in your way. And all
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Your. To every word I say.
Every word I say about it
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Every word I say about it
ain't no stopping us now.
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Ain't no stopping us now.
That's right. We're on the
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That's right. We're on the
move. You said it. We've got
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Move. You said it. We've got
the groove. Ain't no stopping
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The groove. Ain't no
stopping us now. We've
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Got the groove. Who
ain't no stopping us
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Now. We're on the move.
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On the move, yeah. Yeah yeah.
No stopping us now. We've got
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No stopping us now. We've got
the groove from the bronx, new
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York. Mr. Luther vandross.
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Were you very poor
as a child? Mhm.
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Child? Mhm. You know,
the funniest thing
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you know, the funniest thing
is if if there's enough love
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Is if if there's enough love
in your house and in your home
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In your house and in your home
and in your life. Poor, rich,
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And in your life. Poor, rich,
none of that stuff registers.
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None of that stuff registers.
We were we were well fed, well
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We were we were well fed,
well cared for. We had toys at
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Cared for. We had toys at
christmas and I don't know if
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Christmas and I don't know if
we were poor or not. I'll have
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We were poor or not. I'll have
to ask my mother, but it's
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To ask my mother, but it's
certainly my impression of
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Certainly my impression of
growing up was that life was
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Growing up was
that life was great
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This is very personal. This is
luther talking about what he
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Luther talking about what he
experienced as a child and as a
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Experienced as a child and
as a teenager, aware of of a
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Teenager, aware of of a
potential career in music. You
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Potential career in music. You
know, I was a motown child, the
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Know, I was a motown child, the
supremes and temptations on ed
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Supremes and temptations on ed
sullivan was a big deal around
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Sullivan was a big deal around
my neighborhood, you know?
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My neighborhood, you
know? So let's have a fine
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so let's have a fine
welcome for the case keenum
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I need love love, love.
Hey, my man, I need to find
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hey, my man, I need to find
find someone to call mine. But
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Find someone to call mine.
But mama said you can't hurry,
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Mama said you can't hurry,
love. No, you just have to wait
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Love. No, you just
have to wait and see.
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And see. I used
to love. I used to
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I used to love. I used to
draw pictures of the supremes
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Draw pictures of the supremes
in math class. You know, when I
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In math class. You know, when
I was a kid. Because I used to
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Was a kid. Because I used to
just love the way my mother
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Just love the way my mother
would punish me for doing
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Would punish me for doing
something wrong or get to me is
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Something wrong or get to me
is not allowing me to see the
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Not allowing me to see the
supremes on ed sullivan on on a
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Supremes on ed sullivan on on a
Sunday night, you know, and it
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Sunday night, you know, and it
worked. You know, I washed the
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Worked. You know, I washed the
dishes, took the garbage out,
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Dishes, took the garbage
out, did the homework, did
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Did the homework, did
everything. So you.
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Everything. So you. I
feel my skin. I yeah,
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I feel my skin. I yeah,
it's almost gone. I remember
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It's almost gone. I remember
my said I met luther when I was
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My said I met luther
when I was 15.
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15. We'd like so much of the
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we'd like so much of the same
music. The supremes would
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Same music. The supremes would
appear on ed sullivan and it
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Appear on ed sullivan and it
let's say, like maybe at 11:00
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Let's say, like maybe at 11:00
at night when everybody in my
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At night when everybody in
my house was in bed, I'd be
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House was in bed, I'd be
sitting by the phone and the
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Sitting by the phone and the
phone would ring and I'd pick
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Phone would ring and I'd pick
it up really quick. He'd say,
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It up really quick. He'd say,
did you see florence miss that
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Did you see florence miss that
step? No, I came down to it in
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Step? No, I came down
to it in my life alone.
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My life alone. Met
luther vandross in the
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met luther vandross in the
11th grade, and he would say, I
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11th grade, and he would say,
I think our first date was
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Think our first date was
friends was come to my house
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Friends was come to my house
and, you know, I'll make you
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And, you know, I'll make you
some lunch and we'll listen to
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Some lunch and we'll listen
to some music. Great. Happy.
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Some music. Great. Happy.
When she said, love, don't
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when she said, love,
don't come easy.
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Come easy. When I
met luther, the first
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when I met luther, the first
thing I was impressed with. He
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Thing I was impressed with. He
had composition books stuffed
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Had composition books stuffed
with papers that he had torn
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With papers that he had torn
out of another one and stuffed
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Out of another one
and stuffed inside.
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Inside. There, all filled with
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His lyrics. Like
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The shades of jade was
luther's first actual band,
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Luther's first actual band,
and we had a bass player,
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And we had a bass player,
myself, on guitar. Fonzi
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Myself, on guitar. Fonzi
luther, and we had a keyboard
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Luther, and we had
a keyboard player.
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Player. So he said,
well, if you're
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so he said, well, if you're
going to be in the group, you
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Going to be in the group, you
have to get the uniform. I
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Have to get the uniform. I
said, what's the uniform?
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Said, what's the uniform?
Well, you got to have patent
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well, you got to have patent
leather, green emerald shoes.
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Leather, green emerald shoes.
If you're in the shades of
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If you're in the shades of jade.
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Jade. He said, well, the shoes
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he said, well, the shoes
cost $23. And at that time,
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Cost $23. And at that time,
back in the 60s, my mother
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Back in the 60s, my mother
wasn't going to give me no $23
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Wasn't going to give me no $23
for no shoes to sing in. No
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For no shoes to
sing in. No group.
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Group. Don't you
know this fool
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don't you know this fool
goes to my mama's house? I'm
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Goes to my mama's house?
I'm talking about a latin
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Talking about a latin
household. Puerto rican. Only
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Household. Puerto rican.
Only my mother did not speak
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My mother did not speak
english. And then luther
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English. And then luther
vandross proceeds in his broken
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Vandross proceeds in
his broken spanish or
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Senora alamar es a muy
importante a los zapatos.
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Uh de carlos. Valverde green.
Uh, more important, and by the
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Uh, more important, and by the
time he finished talking to my
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Time he finished talking to my
mother, my mother came in the
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Mother, my mother came in the
room and said, here, take this
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Room and said, here, take this
$25 and go buy those shoes.
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$25 and go buy those shoes.
So he was a boss from the
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so he was a boss from the
beginning. He had he had
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Beginning. He had he had
vision. He had an idea of how
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Vision. He had an idea of how
he wanted it to go down. And
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He wanted it to go down.
And that's the way it went
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Down. Luther
studied every singer
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luther studied every singer
that he loved to sing.
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Guess my soul is my money
for me. Oh yes, a little
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For me. Oh yes, a little
respect when you get on. Great.
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Respect when you get on. Great.
When you heard what he liked
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When you heard what he liked
about female singers was he
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About female singers
was he loved the tone.
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Loved the tone.
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He loved the versatility, the
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Range, every aspect. Take
care. Tcb, you know, I
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take care. Tcb, you know,
I used to love listening to
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Used to love listening to
aretha franklin because aretha
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Aretha franklin because
aretha is so bad.
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Is so bad. You know,
she doesn't have
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you know, she doesn't have
to get you at her peak. High
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To get you at her peak. High
note. You know aretha, when
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Note. You know aretha, when
she's singing in neutral, can
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She's singing in neutral,
can render you helpless.
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I want you I respect every jane
coaston luther studied the soul
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Coaston luther studied
the soul of aretha.
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Of aretha. He
studied the sweet
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he studied the sweet
inspirations and their tight
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Inspirations and their
tight harmonies. Oh
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Yeah, he. He studied dionne
warwick, he studied. He studied
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Warwick, he studied. He studied
the tonality and the grace of
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The tonality and the grace
of of her voice. Paul.
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Of her voice. Paul.
Me. I'll be there.
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Just waiting. So don't
think because you've been
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Running around. I
won't answer the phone.
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The phone. When
your world tumbles
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when your world tumbles
down. You can call me any old
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Down. You can call me
any old time of the day.
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Time of the day. When
did you know that you
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when did you know
that you could sing?
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Could sing? I knew
that I wanted to
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I knew that I wanted to sing.
I was about 13 and I had
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Sing. I was about 13 and I had
gone to see dionne warwick at
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Gone to see dionne warwick at
the brooklyn fox theater. And.
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The brooklyn fox theater. And.
And I think I knew from that
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And I think I knew from that
moment that I wanted to be able
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Moment that I wanted to be able
to affect people the way she
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To affect people the way
she affected me that day.
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Affected me that day. It
was the height of black
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it was the height of black
music. The apollo theater was
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Music. The apollo theater was
the center for everything in
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The center for everything in
harlem. Musically. We got to
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Harlem. Musically. We got to
see it all happen and there was
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See it all happen and there was
music on 125th street blasting
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Music on 125th street
blasting all the
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Time. I like to
know. That your love.
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I can't turn you loose now is
one of the hottest groups in
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One of the hottest
groups in the country.
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The country. The
temptations, the world
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the temptations, the
world and saboteurs.
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And saboteurs. I
refuse to explain.
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I refuse to explain. I
just wish it would rain.
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I just wish it would
rain. Oh, let it rain.
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Oh, let it rain. We
were in a group called
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we were in a group called
missing my brother, which was
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Missing my brother, which was
owned and managed by the people
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Owned and managed by the people
who owned the apollo theater,
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Who owned the apollo theater,
and we used to get to see all
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And we used to get to see all
the shows from going to the
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The shows from going to the
apollo anytime we wanted to see
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Apollo anytime we wanted to see
any show. That was one of the
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Any show. That was
one of the real big
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Perks. Of the band. My
brother to what we've got
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my brother to what we've got
to say. This and my brother,
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To say. This and my brother,
cause this is our day.
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Cause this is our day.
Listen, my brother was five
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listen, my brother was five
guys, five girls and a five
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Guys, five girls and a five
piece band, and we were singing
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Piece band, and we were singing
these original songs about
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These original songs about
being young and black and
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Being young and black and
about, I'm going to make it.
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About, I'm going to make it.
And they were all topical as it
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And they were all topical as it
related to the time. Sometimes
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Related to the time.
Sometimes we get burdened.
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We get burdened. So many times
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We have to cry, but if you make
me look, I'll make it to the
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Me look, I'll make
it to the top.
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Top. It'll
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Tell you that's
a good step back.
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Back. The context that we're
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the context that we're
talking about is extremely
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Talking about is extremely
important. To have the whole
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Important. To have the whole
black panthers and all of that.
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Black panthers and all of
that. We sang songs about being
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we sang songs about being
young and black and no one
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Young and black and no one
stopping us. We're going to
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Stopping us. We're going to
make it to the top. Move, move
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Make it to the top. Move, move
out of our way, out of our way.
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Out of our way, out of our way.
These songs were, in effect,
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these songs were, in effect,
mantras that we would repeat
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Mantras that we would repeat
for the rest of our lives.
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For the rest of
our lives. Listen
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Everybody, we got
a story to tell.
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Tell. Peter long, who ran the
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peter long, who ran the
group, came to us one day in
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Group, came to us one day
in rehearsal and he said,
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Rehearsal and he said,
someone's going to come down
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Someone's going to come down
to see you guys because he'd
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To see you guys because he'd
always have people come down.
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Always have people come down.
So he said, this guy jim henson
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So he said, this guy jim henson
is going to come down to see
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Is going to come down to see
what you do. So we performed
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What you do. So we performed
the whole show for him. We go
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To rehearsal the next day and
peter comes to us and he says,
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Peter comes to us and he says,
there's a tv show, there's a
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There's a tv show, there's a
new show for kids coming on
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New show for kids coming on
that I want you guys to do,
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That I want you guys to do,
like tv. Are you kidding
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Like tv. Are you
kidding something? Yeah.
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Something? Yeah.
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You got to love something.
You got to like something to
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You got to like something
to get where you want to
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Be. A man can play a song. No,
no, there's no melody. Here. A
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No, there's no melody. Here. A
girl can bake a cake. Now. If
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Girl can bake a cake. Now. If
she don't have a recipe, a man
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She don't have a recipe, a
man can build a. House. If he
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Can build a. House. If he
can't cut a tree, you've got
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Can't cut a tree, you've got
to learn. You got to learn.
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To learn. You got to learn.
And he explains the concept
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and he explains the concept
of having a neighborhood just
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Of having a neighborhood just
like harlem. A lot of people
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Like harlem. A lot of people
look at sesame street as, oh,
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Look at sesame street as,
oh, sesame street, no, that's
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Sesame street, no, that's
harlem, just like those little
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Harlem, just like those little
buildings that you see. And
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Buildings that you see. And
everybody's sitting on the
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Everybody's sitting on the
porch and they're three story
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Porch and they're three story
walk ups and they're all kind
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Walk ups and they're all kind
of old, but they're really
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Of old, but they're really
well-kept and a lot of wood.
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Well-kept and a lot of wood.
That's harlem. Well, that
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That's harlem. Well, that
being said, you can't have
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Being said, you can't have
songs that are I'm sorry. So
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Songs that are I'm sorry. So
square a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h I
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Square a, b, c, d, e,
f, g, h I that ain't
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Swinging, that ain't soulful a
b c d e f g h I j k l m n o p q
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B c d e f g h I j k l m n
o p q r s t u v w x y z.
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R s t u v w x y z. Hey,
boys and girls, have
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hey, boys and girls, have
you met 26 letters of the
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You met 26 letters
of the alphabet?
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Alphabet? The little
rhyming words,
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the little rhyming words,
for lack of a better word,
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For lack of a better
word, we're rapping.
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We're rapping. Come
on, children, and
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come on, children, and
don't be slow. We're gonna
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Don't be slow. We're gonna
count to 20. And here
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We go. 1234567,
eight nine, ten.
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1234567, eight nine, ten.
We're only halfway. So here we
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We're only halfway. So
here we go again 11, 12.13.
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Go again 11, 12.13. 14.
It wasn't like he was
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14. It wasn't like he was
top dog. So don't look at
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Top dog. So don't look at
luther as being the top dog.
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Luther as being the top dog.
And listen to my brother. He
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And listen to my brother. He
wasn't. And the fact is for
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Wasn't. And the fact is for
that are the obvious. Black and
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That are the obvious. Black and
heavy. If you are too black or
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Heavy. If you are too black
or you're too fat, you got a
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You're too fat, you got a
problem. You didn't know you
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Problem. You didn't know you
had a problem until it was made
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Had a problem until it was made
a problem. Could you sing your
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A problem. Could you sing your
butt off better than everybody
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Butt off better than
everybody on that stage?
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On that stage? 17, 18, 19, 20?
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17, 18, 19, 20? Even
during those years, you
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Still had prejudices based on
the look and the appearance of
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The look and the appearance
of what it is, not the talent.
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That luther vandross went to
kalamazoo, michigan to go to
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Kalamazoo, michigan to go
to college. But boy, he was
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College. But boy, he was
miserable. He was. First of
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Miserable. He was. First of
all, we were in listen, my
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All, we were in listen, my
brother. And then he got
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Brother. And then he got
accepted. He didn't think he
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Accepted. He didn't think he
was going to get accepted.
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Was going to get accepted.
He used to always call down
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he used to always call down
to the rehearsal, what are
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To the rehearsal, what are
y'all doing? What are you
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Y'all doing? What are you
singing? That kind of stuff. So
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Singing? That kind of stuff. So
he was doing well in school. He
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He was doing well in school.
He always said he was like a b+
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Always said he was like a b+
student in school. But, um, his
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Student in school. But, um, his
his ear, he was thinking about
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His ear, he was thinking about
the music. He wanted to come
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The music. He wanted to
come back to new york and be
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Back to new york and be
involved with the things that
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Involved with the things
that we were doing.
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We were doing. When I went
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To college, I did not go back
the second year because I
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The second year because I
really did not want a plan b. I
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Really did not want a plan b. I
said, you know what? It's going
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Said, you know what? It's going
to be this or I'm going to be
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To be this or I'm going to be
80 trying to do it. And I told
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80 trying to do
it. And I told my
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Mother that I wanted to drop
out and pursue music, and she
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Out and pursue music, and she
surprisingly said, sure. And I
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Surprisingly said, sure. And I
think the reason she said sure
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Think the reason she said sure
is because of what I didn't
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Is because of what I didn't
know, which is that my father
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Know, which is that my father
was a brilliant singer. He
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Was a brilliant singer. He
passed away when I was eight
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Passed away when I was eight
years old, and they said that I
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Years old, and they said that
I got it from him. So I said,
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Got it from him. So I said,
I'm going to focus my entire
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I'm going to focus my entire
life and whole energy into
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Life and whole energy into
this, and there is no other
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This, and there is no other
consideration. So rejection
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Consideration. So rejection
will just have to happen. And
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Will just have to
happen. And if it
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Happens, it will happen.
And I'll keep on going.
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Philadelphia has a unique
blend of rhythm and blues that
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Blend of rhythm and
blues that is distinctly
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Philly. First it
was motown and then
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first it was motown and then
there was west philly. There
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There was west philly. There
was gamble and huff. There were
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Was gamble and huff. There were
just all of those great groups
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Just all of those great groups
that came out of there. The
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That came out of there.
The o'jays and first choice
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And the three degrees.
You. Will hear they
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Were doing their own thing. It
wasn't motown. It was. It was
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Wasn't motown. It was. It was
lush. But it was. It was east
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Lush. But it was. It was east
coast. It was. It just had a,
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Coast. It was. It
just had a, uh.
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Uh. I don't think they'll miss
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I don't think they'll miss
what they do. They smiling in
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What they do. They smiling in
your face all the time. You
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Your face all the time.
You want to take your
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Place? The. Backstabbers.
Backstabbers.
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Backstabbers. I
keep getting the
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I keep getting the
philadelphia sound. Took the
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Philadelphia sound. Took the
motown sound and stripped it of
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Motown sound and stripped it of
its formality. Stripped it of
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Its formality.
Stripped it of its
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Tuxedos and beaded gowns, and
it said, come as you are and
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It said, come as you are
and scream a little bit.
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And you,
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You are. Pick your hair out.
You know what I'm saying? Let
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You know what I'm saying? Let
your afro be big and bouncy and
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Your afro be big and bouncy and
wild. I know, I know, my, my
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Wild. I know, I know, my, my
motown was giving you a little
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Motown was giving you a
little bit more of like.
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We matching and we
home by midnight. More
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Than I deserve. For. You. Are.
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For. You. Are. You
know the philly sound
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you know the philly sound
was more to the point and
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Was more to the point
and really got deep
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Into the black experience. So
when I when I hear about boy,
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When I when I hear about boy,
when I hear about mick jagger,
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When I hear about mick jagger,
when I hear about all these
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When I hear about all these
people, this is music that they
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People, this is music that
they truly appreciated.
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It was a sound that deeply
resonated with them.
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Resonated with them.
To somebody like david
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to somebody like david
bowie, it was a little bit
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Bowie, it was a little bit
cooler, a little bit of the
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Cooler, a little bit of the
moment, a little bit raspier, a
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Moment, a little bit raspier, a
little bit rowdier. So why not
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Little bit rowdier.
So why not be
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There? Oh my. Yeah.
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Yeah. So we're
in new york city
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so we're in new york city
and carlos gets a call
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From david bowie. Hey, baby,
it's for the young americans
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It's for the young americans
album. And carlos has to go
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Album. And carlos has to go
down to philadelphia to record
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Down to philadelphia
to record the line.
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And my. Heart for you.
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During that time, we had this
whole thing where the way
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This whole thing where the way
that we used to get gigs is we
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That we used to get gigs is
we would attend each other's
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Would attend each other's
sessions. And if, incidentally,
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Sessions. And if, incidentally,
they happened to need somebody
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They happened to need somebody
to fill in, oh my friends, a
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To fill in, oh my friends, a
singer, he could definitely do
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Singer, he could definitely
do it. And we always brought
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It. And we always brought
luther come forward.
434
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Yeah, that looks great.
435
00:17:45,731 --> 00:17:51,731
Taking it all the right
way, keeping it in the back.
436
00:17:51,938 --> 00:17:54,405
Keeping it in the back.
Taking it all the right way.
437
00:17:54,407 --> 00:17:55,406
Taking it all the right way.
Lucy started doing what he
438
00:17:55,408 --> 00:17:56,841
lucy started doing what he
does, which is start singing.
439
00:17:56,843 --> 00:17:58,643
Does, which is start singing.
When david put music on, he
440
00:17:58,645 --> 00:17:59,910
When david put music on, he
starts, you know, whatever. How
441
00:17:59,912 --> 00:18:01,378
Starts, you know, whatever. How
many? And david was like, wow,
442
00:18:01,380 --> 00:18:03,648
Many? And david was like, wow,
this guy is great. Flying. Just
443
00:18:03,650 --> 00:18:06,217
This guy is great. Flying.
Just a sweet place.
444
00:18:06,219 --> 00:18:08,552
A sweet place. Never
been known to fail,
445
00:18:08,554 --> 00:18:09,020
never been known to
fail, never been known.
446
00:18:09,022 --> 00:18:10,421
Never been known. David
knew talent and he
447
00:18:10,423 --> 00:18:14,024
david knew talent and he
whispered to me, he said, I
448
00:18:14,026 --> 00:18:15,960
Whispered to me, he said, I
love this guy. And I'm like,
449
00:18:15,962 --> 00:18:17,261
Love this guy. And I'm like,
what's not to love, right?
450
00:18:17,263 --> 00:18:20,231
What's not to love, right?
And again, on the one, two,
451
00:18:20,233 --> 00:18:21,765
and again, on the one, two,
three time giving it when it,
452
00:18:21,767 --> 00:18:24,502
Three time giving it when it,
giving it, keeping it back.
453
00:18:24,504 --> 00:18:25,603
Giving it, keeping it back.
Right. That's fine. Okay. So
454
00:18:25,605 --> 00:18:27,305
Right. That's fine. Okay. So
we got that. That one's all
455
00:18:27,307 --> 00:18:28,739
We got that. That
one's all right.
456
00:18:28,741 --> 00:18:29,874
Right. Robin and
luther are always
457
00:18:29,876 --> 00:18:32,043
robin and luther are always
making up parts. That's what
458
00:18:32,045 --> 00:18:32,910
Making up parts. That's what
you do. And so they sit on the
459
00:18:32,912 --> 00:18:34,645
You do. And so they sit on
the couch. You know how it is.
460
00:18:34,647 --> 00:18:36,147
Couch. You know how it is.
Speakers are there. They're
461
00:18:36,149 --> 00:18:38,816
Speakers are there. They're
listening back to the music.
462
00:18:38,818 --> 00:18:39,483
Listening back to the
music. She took his babies.
463
00:18:39,485 --> 00:18:40,217
She took his babies.
It took him minutes.
464
00:18:40,219 --> 00:18:41,585
It took him minutes.
David bowie's back there
465
00:18:41,587 --> 00:18:42,953
david bowie's back there with
the engineer, and they're
466
00:18:42,955 --> 00:18:45,456
With the engineer, and
they're playing the tracks
467
00:18:46,024 --> 00:18:48,425
Back. It's. All
right. She wants the
468
00:18:48,427 --> 00:18:50,962
all right. She wants the young
469
00:18:51,263 --> 00:18:56,467
American and david, he's
playing young americans just to
470
00:18:56,469 --> 00:18:58,068
Playing young americans
just to to hear it.
471
00:18:58,070 --> 00:18:58,869
To hear it. And luther
leans over to me
472
00:18:58,871 --> 00:18:59,737
and luther leans over to me
and he says, robin, what do you
473
00:18:59,739 --> 00:19:02,473
And he says, robin, what do you
think of this young american,
474
00:19:02,475 --> 00:19:05,276
Think of this young
american, young american?
475
00:19:05,278 --> 00:19:08,412
Young american? She
wants a young. American.
476
00:19:08,414 --> 00:19:08,746
She wants a young.
American. And david,
477
00:19:09,248 --> 00:19:12,283
Unbeknownst to me, was sitting
at the board behind me with a
478
00:19:12,285 --> 00:19:15,252
At the board behind me with
a guy named carl who was the
479
00:19:15,254 --> 00:19:16,654
Guy named carl who was the
engineer. And he said, I love
480
00:19:16,656 --> 00:19:17,321
Engineer. And he
said, I love that.
481
00:19:17,323 --> 00:19:18,189
That. What a breath
of fresh air.
482
00:19:18,191 --> 00:19:19,256
What a breath of fresh air.
I mean, it had just such a
483
00:19:19,258 --> 00:19:20,624
I mean, it had just such a
fantastic voice that I asked
484
00:19:20,626 --> 00:19:22,826
Fantastic voice that I asked
him if he wanted to kind of
485
00:19:22,828 --> 00:19:24,161
Him if he wanted to kind of
join in the session and start
486
00:19:24,163 --> 00:19:26,764
Join in the session
and start doing the
487
00:19:27,266 --> 00:19:32,103
Backing vocals. So what right.
You want the young american
488
00:19:32,105 --> 00:19:34,438
you want the young american
younger man young american,
489
00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,440
Younger man young american,
what the young man?
490
00:19:36,442 --> 00:19:37,508
What the young man?
They went in there and
491
00:19:37,510 --> 00:19:38,175
they went in there and
started singing the young
492
00:19:38,177 --> 00:19:38,976
Started singing the young
americans. David bowie was
493
00:19:38,978 --> 00:19:41,845
Americans. David bowie was
blown away. He's like, you're
494
00:19:41,847 --> 00:19:44,115
Blown away. He's like, you're
in. I heard the news today.
495
00:19:44,117 --> 00:19:45,883
In. I heard the news today.
Oh boy. I got a sweet you
496
00:19:45,885 --> 00:19:50,955
oh boy. I got a sweet
you got the beat. Oh.
497
00:19:51,189 --> 00:19:57,189
Say no more. And they
retired. I'm happy that
498
00:19:57,596 --> 00:20:00,698
I remember that. Because I
499
00:20:02,267 --> 00:20:06,203
Know that. One night, all
night. You want the young
500
00:20:06,205 --> 00:20:07,004
Night. You want the young
american bowie was a rock and
501
00:20:07,006 --> 00:20:07,371
American bowie was
a rock and roller.
502
00:20:07,373 --> 00:20:09,039
Roller. He was
doing stuff that was
503
00:20:09,041 --> 00:20:10,307
he was doing stuff that was
miles away from what r&b music
504
00:20:10,309 --> 00:20:12,376
Miles away from what r&b music
is. You know, luther brought a
505
00:20:12,378 --> 00:20:15,146
Is. You know, luther brought a
certain style of singing, and
506
00:20:15,148 --> 00:20:20,151
Certain style of singing, and
bowie loved it the guy got
507
00:20:20,153 --> 00:20:22,353
Bowie loved it the guy got
magnus carlsen, and now
508
00:20:22,355 --> 00:20:24,521
Magnus carlsen, and now
suddenly luther was arranging
509
00:20:24,523 --> 00:20:26,357
Suddenly luther was arranging
the entire album, and this was
510
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,158
The entire album, and this was
also when luther had his group,
511
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:29,160
Also when luther had his group,
luther on cotillion, because he
512
00:20:29,162 --> 00:20:30,261
Luther on cotillion, because he
had a whole album full of songs
513
00:20:30,263 --> 00:20:31,695
Had a whole album full of
songs that he had written and
514
00:20:31,697 --> 00:20:32,863
That he had written and
produced, and david heard a
515
00:20:32,865 --> 00:20:34,531
Produced, and david heard a
song called funky music is a
516
00:20:34,533 --> 00:20:37,068
Song called funky
music is a part of
517
00:20:37,368 --> 00:20:39,736
Me. And he said, boy, I really,
really like that, but I can't
518
00:20:39,738 --> 00:20:41,204
Really like that, but I can't
sing it. It's funky music. So
519
00:20:41,206 --> 00:20:43,707
Sing it. It's funky
music. So they
520
00:20:44,876 --> 00:20:47,878
Rewrote it as fascination. As
nation, fascination shown up,
521
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,381
Nation, fascination shown up,
fascination takes a part of me
522
00:20:50,383 --> 00:20:53,050
Fascination takes a part of
me that was luther's song I
523
00:20:53,052 --> 00:20:54,986
That was luther's
song I can't help it.
524
00:20:54,988 --> 00:20:57,655
Can't help it. No,
I've got to move.
525
00:20:57,856 --> 00:21:03,093
Every time I get
music comes around.
526
00:21:03,095 --> 00:21:03,861
Around. Yeah, this
is luther, and
527
00:21:03,863 --> 00:21:06,196
yeah, this is luther, and
that's the name of the group.
528
00:21:06,198 --> 00:21:07,965
That's the name of the group.
Why? Just luther? Luther?
529
00:21:07,967 --> 00:21:09,133
Why? Just luther? Luther?
Uh, I write the songs, I
530
00:21:09,135 --> 00:21:11,368
uh, I write the songs, I
sing them, you know, some of
531
00:21:11,370 --> 00:21:12,403
Sing them, you know, some of
them. And the record company
532
00:21:12,405 --> 00:21:13,537
Them. And the record company
named us luther, by the way.
533
00:21:13,539 --> 00:21:16,007
Named us luther, by the way.
They thought that name would be
534
00:21:16,009 --> 00:21:17,074
They thought that name would
be more recognizable than the
535
00:21:17,076 --> 00:21:19,810
More recognizable than the
others that we had tried. I
536
00:21:19,812 --> 00:21:20,644
Others that we had tried. I
love singing, just give me the
537
00:21:20,646 --> 00:21:20,878
Love singing, just
give me the beat.
538
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:21,845
Beat. Just give
it to me. Give it
539
00:21:21,847 --> 00:21:24,982
just give it to me. Give it
to me, give it to me. Please.
540
00:21:24,984 --> 00:21:27,885
To me, give it to me. Please.
Come on now, come on now.
541
00:21:27,887 --> 00:21:30,387
Come on now, come on now.
Everybody. Everybody get up,
542
00:21:30,389 --> 00:21:34,225
Everybody. Everybody get up,
get up, get up, now. Oh, I
543
00:21:34,227 --> 00:21:36,060
Get up, get up, now. Oh, I
can't help myself. No, no.
544
00:21:36,062 --> 00:21:37,227
Can't help myself. No, no.
I love those days. David.
545
00:21:37,229 --> 00:21:38,595
I love those days. David. You
know what? He used to make
546
00:21:38,597 --> 00:21:39,563
You know what? He used to make
me do? This was when he first
547
00:21:39,565 --> 00:21:41,232
Me do? This was when he first
hired me. He first heard me
548
00:21:41,234 --> 00:21:43,634
Hired me. He first heard me
singing. He used to have me go
549
00:21:43,636 --> 00:21:44,802
Singing. He used to have me go
on stage and do a half an hour
550
00:21:44,804 --> 00:21:47,304
On stage and do a half an hour
show of only my own material,
551
00:21:47,306 --> 00:21:49,640
Show of only my own material,
and the audience was saying,
552
00:21:49,642 --> 00:21:52,176
And the audience was saying,
bowie. Bowie, you know, they
553
00:21:52,178 --> 00:21:52,976
Bowie. Bowie, you know, they
had no idea who I was. You
554
00:21:52,978 --> 00:21:53,878
Had no idea who I was.
You know, I was young and
555
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,012
Know, I was young and
everything, and I came off
556
00:21:55,014 --> 00:21:56,947
Everything, and I came off
stage. I said, david, if you're
557
00:21:56,949 --> 00:21:58,249
Stage. I said, david, if you're
trying to kill me, use an ax.
558
00:21:58,251 --> 00:22:00,451
Trying to kill me, use an ax.
Don't don't do it to me like
559
00:22:00,453 --> 00:22:01,819
Don't don't do it to me like
this, you know. And he was
560
00:22:01,821 --> 00:22:03,654
This, you know. And he was
saying, no, you have to
561
00:22:03,656 --> 00:22:04,588
Saying, no, you have to
understand. You're getting a
562
00:22:04,590 --> 00:22:05,923
Understand. You're getting a
chance to sharpen your tools
563
00:22:05,925 --> 00:22:07,091
Chance to sharpen your tools
and get out there. You're
564
00:22:07,093 --> 00:22:08,826
And get out there. You're
getting the experience of a
565
00:22:08,828 --> 00:22:10,627
Getting the experience of a
lifetime in advance of what I
566
00:22:10,629 --> 00:22:14,264
Lifetime in advance of what I
know is going to be your career
567
00:22:14,266 --> 00:22:15,265
Know is going to be your career
david introduced me to bette
568
00:22:15,267 --> 00:22:16,467
David introduced me to bette
midler, and I toured with bette
569
00:22:16,469 --> 00:22:18,202
Midler, and I toured with bette
midler for many years, and she
570
00:22:18,204 --> 00:22:19,636
Midler for many years, and she
was big on production. So some
571
00:22:19,638 --> 00:22:21,672
Was big on production. So some
of my early impressions about
572
00:22:21,674 --> 00:22:23,640
Of my early impressions about
what to do on stage were that
573
00:22:23,642 --> 00:22:25,342
What to do on stage were that
you should have, you know, big,
574
00:22:25,344 --> 00:22:29,280
You should have, you know, big,
elaborate productions. They do
575
00:22:29,282 --> 00:22:29,813
Elaborate productions.
They do it.
576
00:22:29,815 --> 00:22:30,647
It. They do. He believed that
577
00:22:30,649 --> 00:22:32,349
they do. He believed that
background singing was an art
578
00:22:32,351 --> 00:22:33,684
Background singing was an art
form because you have to know
579
00:22:33,686 --> 00:22:35,219
Form because you have to know
how to blend. You have to know
580
00:22:35,221 --> 00:22:36,487
How to blend. You have to know
how to follow instructions. You
581
00:22:36,489 --> 00:22:38,355
How to follow instructions.
You have to know what to add
582
00:22:38,357 --> 00:22:39,690
Have to know what to add
tonally. You know, luther's
583
00:22:39,692 --> 00:22:41,658
Tonally. You know, luther's
session career opened up from
584
00:22:41,660 --> 00:22:42,659
Session career opened up from
his work with david bowie and
585
00:22:42,661 --> 00:22:44,741
His work with david bowie
and bette midler and people
586
00:22:44,963 --> 00:22:49,032
Journalism. The whole story
with anderson cooper Sunday at
587
00:22:50,001 --> 00:22:54,705
Eight on cnn. The song we want
to do for you now is from the
588
00:22:54,707 --> 00:22:57,308
To do for you now is from the
broadway musical called the wiz
589
00:22:57,310 --> 00:22:58,375
Broadway musical called the
wiz okay, it was the winner of
590
00:22:58,377 --> 00:23:02,279
Okay, it was the winner of
seven tony awards, and I had
591
00:23:02,281 --> 00:23:04,047
Seven tony awards, and I had
the privilege and the pleasure
592
00:23:04,049 --> 00:23:05,883
The privilege and the pleasure
of being able to write one of
593
00:23:05,885 --> 00:23:08,386
Of being able to
write one of the songs
594
00:23:08,620 --> 00:23:11,989
In that show. Okay.
And we want to do it
595
00:23:11,991 --> 00:23:14,458
okay. And we want to do it
for you now in our own style.
596
00:23:14,460 --> 00:23:16,927
For you now in our own style.
Carry on, carry on everybody
597
00:23:16,929 --> 00:23:18,462
Carry on, carry on
everybody look around.
598
00:23:18,464 --> 00:23:21,031
Look around. Cause
there's a reason to
599
00:23:21,033 --> 00:23:22,900
cause there's a reason to
rejoice. You see everybody come
600
00:23:22,902 --> 00:23:25,602
Rejoice. You see everybody
come out and let's commence the
601
00:23:25,604 --> 00:23:26,103
Out and let's
commence the singing.
602
00:23:26,105 --> 00:23:27,137
Singing. We had a
vision, but there
603
00:23:27,139 --> 00:23:28,138
we had a vision, but there was
a long period of time where
604
00:23:28,140 --> 00:23:31,708
Was a long period of time where
he was trying to get a deal and
605
00:23:31,710 --> 00:23:32,176
He was trying to get
a deal and wasn't.
606
00:23:32,178 --> 00:23:33,243
Wasn't. So it
wasn't like this was
607
00:23:33,245 --> 00:23:37,548
so it wasn't like this was a
sure thing. It's love, see?
608
00:23:37,550 --> 00:23:39,249
A sure thing. It's love, see?
But he knew what he wanted. He
609
00:23:39,251 --> 00:23:41,151
But he knew what he wanted. He
knew he was talented enough to
610
00:23:41,153 --> 00:23:42,787
Knew he was talented enough to
have it. And he kept going for
611
00:23:42,789 --> 00:23:45,422
Have it. And he
kept going for it
612
00:23:45,891 --> 00:23:51,562
Can you feel? Daniel hagari
613
00:23:52,731 --> 00:23:58,731
Make you feel.
614
00:23:59,905 --> 00:24:03,073
Brand
615
00:24:04,309 --> 00:24:07,378
New? Because. Good night.
I was in luther's band and
616
00:24:07,380 --> 00:24:09,814
I was in luther's band and we
were opening for marvin gaye
617
00:24:09,816 --> 00:24:12,115
We were opening for marvin gaye
at radio city music hall. And
618
00:24:12,117 --> 00:24:15,786
At radio city music hall. And
in those days you had two shows
619
00:24:15,788 --> 00:24:16,987
In those days you had two shows
a night at radio city music
620
00:24:16,989 --> 00:24:19,590
A night at radio city music
hall. So we played our show.
621
00:24:19,592 --> 00:24:21,392
Hall. So we played our show.
Then during the intermission,
622
00:24:21,394 --> 00:24:23,360
Then during the intermission,
we ran over to the recording
623
00:24:23,362 --> 00:24:24,995
We ran over to the recording
studio and recorded my very
624
00:24:24,997 --> 00:24:28,131
Studio and recorded my very
first song, which was everybody
625
00:24:28,133 --> 00:24:29,710
First song, which was everybody
dance, everybody dance
626
00:24:29,734 --> 00:24:32,970
Doo doo doo doo, clap your
627
00:24:33,271 --> 00:24:36,707
Hands, clap your hands.
Everybody dance. Doo doo doo
628
00:24:36,709 --> 00:24:41,245
everybody dance. Doo doo doo
doo doo. Clap your hands, clap
629
00:24:41,247 --> 00:24:41,778
Doo doo. Clap your
hands, clap your hands.
630
00:24:41,780 --> 00:24:42,913
Your hands. Luther
came and he brought
631
00:24:42,915 --> 00:24:48,352
luther came and he brought
all of his singers. And it
632
00:24:48,354 --> 00:24:50,454
All of his singers. And it
sounded amazing. After I cut
633
00:24:50,456 --> 00:24:52,990
Sounded amazing. After I cut
everybody dance with luther, it
634
00:24:52,992 --> 00:24:54,992
Everybody dance with luther, it
just was magical. It was like,
635
00:24:54,994 --> 00:24:57,561
Just was magical. It was like,
wow, this is the sound. This is
636
00:24:57,563 --> 00:25:00,364
Wow, this is the sound. This
is something special. And it's
637
00:25:00,366 --> 00:25:00,831
Something special.
And it's chic.
638
00:25:00,833 --> 00:25:05,302
Chic. Love. Your feet.
639
00:25:06,070 --> 00:25:08,472
Say chic. Freak out.
640
00:25:08,706 --> 00:25:14,011
Have you heard about
the new dance craze?
641
00:25:14,013 --> 00:25:15,646
Dance craze? Listen to us.
642
00:25:15,648 --> 00:25:18,315
Listen to us. I'm
sure you'll be amazed
643
00:25:18,317 --> 00:25:20,817
I'm sure you'll be amazed big
fun to be had by everyone.
644
00:25:20,819 --> 00:25:23,287
Big fun to be had by
everyone. It's up to you.
645
00:25:23,289 --> 00:25:25,890
It's up to you.
Surely can't be done.
646
00:25:25,892 --> 00:25:28,025
Surely can't be done.
Young and old are doing it.
647
00:25:28,027 --> 00:25:30,394
Young and old are doing it.
I'm told it's called a freak.
648
00:25:30,396 --> 00:25:31,562
I'm told it's called a freak.
They're doing it night and
649
00:25:31,564 --> 00:25:35,999
They're doing it night and
day. I. We'll show you the
650
00:25:36,001 --> 00:25:41,071
Day. I. We'll show you the
way. Ah, freak show. You freak.
651
00:25:41,073 --> 00:25:41,572
Way. Ah, freak show.
You freak. So chic.
652
00:25:41,574 --> 00:25:42,673
So chic. Luther
singing every record
653
00:25:42,675 --> 00:25:44,508
luther singing every record
we did. He's on everything.
654
00:25:44,510 --> 00:25:46,310
We did. He's on everything.
Every every single record we
655
00:25:46,312 --> 00:25:48,545
Every every single record we
did. So the first chic album
656
00:25:48,547 --> 00:25:50,147
Did. So the first chic album
he's on, every song. The
657
00:25:50,149 --> 00:25:52,149
He's on, every song. The
second chic album he's on
658
00:25:52,151 --> 00:25:53,517
Second chic album he's on
every song. Then we do sister
659
00:25:53,519 --> 00:25:56,053
Every song. Then we do sister
sledge. He's on every song on
660
00:25:56,055 --> 00:25:58,422
Sledge. He's on every song on
that record. Luther vandross
661
00:25:58,424 --> 00:26:00,157
That record. Luther vandross
vocals had a big part, played a
662
00:26:00,159 --> 00:26:01,692
Vocals had a big part,
played a big part.
663
00:26:01,694 --> 00:26:02,693
Big part. What worked
for me was that
664
00:26:02,695 --> 00:26:05,696
what worked for me was that
I was one of the first real
665
00:26:05,698 --> 00:26:06,163
I was one of the
first real singers to
666
00:26:06,230 --> 00:26:11,234
Emerge out of that disco
period, and it made me kind of
667
00:26:11,236 --> 00:26:12,703
Period, and it made me kind of
singular in what I contributed
668
00:26:12,705 --> 00:26:15,238
Singular in what I contributed
to music at that point. And
669
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,240
To music at that point. And
from there I went into jingles.
670
00:26:17,242 --> 00:26:19,910
From there I went into jingles.
There's nothing like a roller
671
00:26:19,912 --> 00:26:21,878
There's nothing like a roller
coaster ride. There's nothing
672
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,182
Coaster ride. There's nothing
like a view from a mile in the
673
00:26:25,184 --> 00:26:25,983
Like a view from a mile in the
sky, and there's nothing like
674
00:26:25,985 --> 00:26:27,718
Sky, and there's
nothing like the
675
00:26:28,019 --> 00:26:31,722
Flavor of juicy fruit gum.
I come from a world of
676
00:26:31,724 --> 00:26:33,964
I come from a world of
background singing, singing for
677
00:26:34,526 --> 00:26:37,628
Other people. Welcome
to. Miller time,
678
00:26:37,630 --> 00:26:38,228
welcome to. Miller
time, doing jingles.
679
00:26:38,230 --> 00:26:39,029
Doing jingles. And
that's the world that
680
00:26:39,031 --> 00:26:40,897
and that's the world that
luther was traveling in.
681
00:26:40,899 --> 00:26:42,933
Luther was traveling in.
Bring your thirsty self
682
00:26:42,935 --> 00:26:45,435
bring your thirsty self
right here. The rich, smooth
683
00:26:45,437 --> 00:26:47,538
Right here. The rich,
smooth taste of miller beer.
684
00:26:47,540 --> 00:26:50,107
Taste of miller beer.
And so I knew his
685
00:26:50,408 --> 00:26:53,477
Voice before he became famous
686
00:26:54,646 --> 00:26:59,383
Tonight, tonight, tonight.
Let it be low. And bright.
687
00:26:59,385 --> 00:27:00,951
Let it be low. And bright.
You'll be loving that whole
688
00:27:00,953 --> 00:27:02,819
you'll be loving that whole
thing. The thing that I do came
689
00:27:02,821 --> 00:27:06,857
Thing. The thing that I do came
out of my first jingle. It was
690
00:27:07,959 --> 00:27:12,295
For gino's pizza. Gino's.
You go for the food.
691
00:27:12,297 --> 00:27:14,131
Go for the food. We've
got. Gino's. You go
692
00:27:14,133 --> 00:27:16,533
we've got. Gino's. You
go for it. Sizzling hot.
693
00:27:16,535 --> 00:27:17,601
For it. Sizzling hot. And
the producer, her name
694
00:27:17,603 --> 00:27:18,435
and the producer, her name
was debbie mcduffie. She says,
695
00:27:18,437 --> 00:27:19,135
Was debbie mcduffie. She says,
can you give me just something
696
00:27:19,137 --> 00:27:22,606
Can you give me just something
to make me feel it hot? Make me
697
00:27:22,608 --> 00:27:24,474
To make me feel it hot? Make
me feel it sizzling hot. And I
698
00:27:24,476 --> 00:27:26,810
Feel it sizzling hot. And I
said, gino's. You go for it.
699
00:27:26,812 --> 00:27:28,178
Said, gino's. You go for
it. It's sizzling hot. Hot.
700
00:27:28,180 --> 00:27:28,912
It's sizzling hot. Hot.
And, you know, I just could
701
00:27:28,914 --> 00:27:29,980
and, you know, I just could
see the control room just
702
00:27:29,982 --> 00:27:32,516
See the control room just
jumping up and clapping and
703
00:27:32,518 --> 00:27:32,983
Jumping up and
clapping and stuff.
704
00:27:32,985 --> 00:27:34,317
Stuff. He did it.
And and we did
705
00:27:34,319 --> 00:27:35,786
he did it. And and we did
erupt then because it was like,
706
00:27:35,788 --> 00:27:38,355
Erupt then because it was like,
oh man, this is going to end up
707
00:27:38,357 --> 00:27:40,457
Oh man, this is going to end up
being his his thing. So we were
708
00:27:40,459 --> 00:27:41,658
Being his his thing. So we were
thinking it in the control room
709
00:27:41,660 --> 00:27:42,793
Thinking it in the control
room and he was thinking it on
710
00:27:42,795 --> 00:27:43,627
And he was thinking it on
michael, I'm not doing this in
711
00:27:43,629 --> 00:27:46,163
Michael, I'm not
doing this in any more
712
00:27:46,464 --> 00:27:50,200
Jingles. And he never did.
Going up to set some trends,
713
00:27:50,202 --> 00:27:52,169
Going up to set some trends,
want to laugh and dance and
714
00:27:52,171 --> 00:27:52,669
Want to laugh and
dance and sing.
715
00:27:52,671 --> 00:27:53,904
Sing. And it was just he was
716
00:27:53,906 --> 00:27:56,139
and it was just he was
killing it. He was killing it.
717
00:27:56,141 --> 00:27:58,008
Killing it. He was killing it.
And the rates, the pay rates
718
00:27:58,010 --> 00:28:02,012
And the rates, the pay rates
that singers got paid was like
719
00:28:02,014 --> 00:28:04,347
That singers got paid was like
100 million times more than
720
00:28:04,349 --> 00:28:05,882
100 million times more than
what the musicians got paid. So
721
00:28:05,884 --> 00:28:07,350
What the musicians got paid. So
I would say, hey, man, can we
722
00:28:07,352 --> 00:28:08,185
I would say, hey, man, can we
go to your mailbox? I just want
723
00:28:08,187 --> 00:28:10,454
Go to your mailbox? I just want
to see those commercial checks
724
00:28:10,456 --> 00:28:12,155
To see those commercial checks
falling out of your mailbox.
725
00:28:12,157 --> 00:28:14,357
Falling out of your mailbox.
You know, as opposed to my
726
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,359
You know, as opposed
to my little $34 check.
727
00:28:16,361 --> 00:28:18,662
Little $34 check. It
was really a wonderful
728
00:28:18,664 --> 00:28:20,030
it was really a wonderful
period of of life. You know, it
729
00:28:20,032 --> 00:28:22,399
Period of of life. You know,
it allowed me to move out of my
730
00:28:22,401 --> 00:28:23,433
Allowed me to move out of my
mother's house, you know, and
731
00:28:23,435 --> 00:28:24,835
Mother's house, you know, and
it allowed me to move her out
732
00:28:24,837 --> 00:28:27,370
It allowed me to move her out
of her house and into someplace
733
00:28:27,372 --> 00:28:27,838
Of her house and into
someplace really nice.
734
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,239
Really nice. Luther
eventually became
735
00:28:29,241 --> 00:28:31,675
luther eventually became
like one of the number one
736
00:28:31,677 --> 00:28:33,243
Like one of the number
one background singers for
737
00:28:33,245 --> 00:28:33,910
Background singers for
commercials and also for
738
00:28:33,912 --> 00:28:35,846
Commercials and also for records
739
00:28:37,415 --> 00:28:40,651
Oh. For so long, strange was a
740
00:28:40,653 --> 00:28:43,220
for so long, strange was a
studio group. It was us singing
741
00:28:43,222 --> 00:28:43,987
Studio group. It was us singing
background, luther singing lead
742
00:28:43,989 --> 00:28:47,091
Background, luther singing lead
on a few things. Luther went in
743
00:28:47,093 --> 00:28:48,792
On a few things. Luther went in
and sang searching and glow of
744
00:28:48,794 --> 00:28:51,194
And sang searching and glow of
love in one take and nailed it.
745
00:28:51,196 --> 00:28:51,928
Love in one take and nailed
it. The producers heard me
746
00:28:51,930 --> 00:28:53,063
the producers heard me
singing in the background and
747
00:28:53,065 --> 00:28:54,865
Singing in the background and
they asked me, you know, if I
748
00:28:54,867 --> 00:28:56,399
They asked me, you know, if I
would sing the lead or audition
749
00:28:56,401 --> 00:28:57,934
Would sing the lead or audition
for the lead. We are one.
750
00:28:57,936 --> 00:28:59,870
For the lead. We are one.
Having fun walking in the glow
751
00:28:59,872 --> 00:29:02,106
Having fun walking in the glow
of love, soul searching and
752
00:29:02,108 --> 00:29:04,407
Of love, soul searching and
glow of love went on to become
753
00:29:04,409 --> 00:29:05,542
Glow of love went on to become
big records, and they wanted
754
00:29:05,544 --> 00:29:07,077
Big records, and they wanted
luther to be officially become
755
00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:07,544
Luther to be
officially become the.
756
00:29:07,546 --> 00:29:09,513
The. The lead singer of the
757
00:29:09,515 --> 00:29:10,413
the lead singer of the group.
But luther's contention
758
00:29:10,415 --> 00:29:12,249
Group. But luther's contention
was that I am a writer and a
759
00:29:12,251 --> 00:29:13,650
Was that I am a writer and a
producer. I want to write and
760
00:29:13,652 --> 00:29:14,718
Producer. I want to write and
produce my own songs. I don't
761
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:15,886
Produce my own songs. I don't
want to be just the lead singer
762
00:29:15,888 --> 00:29:18,255
Want to be just the lead singer
of your group while you feed me
763
00:29:18,257 --> 00:29:20,090
Of your group while you feed
me songs, you know? So he kept
764
00:29:20,092 --> 00:29:21,358
Songs, you know? So he kept
writing, he kept singing, he
765
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,894
Writing, he kept singing,
he kept doing his own
766
00:29:24,863 --> 00:29:26,963
Thing. Roberta
flack heard luther
767
00:29:26,965 --> 00:29:28,498
roberta flack heard luther
and said, listen, I'm doing
768
00:29:28,500 --> 00:29:31,001
And said, listen, I'm doing
gigs. I'm doing I know you do
769
00:29:31,003 --> 00:29:32,068
Gigs. I'm doing I know you do
sessions during the week, but
770
00:29:32,070 --> 00:29:34,905
Sessions during the week, but
maybe you'll come out with me
771
00:29:34,907 --> 00:29:37,641
Maybe you'll come out with me
on the weekend, strolling in
772
00:29:37,643 --> 00:29:40,244
On the weekend, strolling
in the park, watching winter
773
00:29:41,579 --> 00:29:46,683
Turns to spring. Walking
in the dark. Seeing
774
00:29:46,685 --> 00:29:49,252
walking in the
dark. Seeing lovers
775
00:29:52,757 --> 00:29:58,757
Do their thing. Ooh, that's the
time I feel like making love to
776
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:02,499
Time I feel like
making love to you.
777
00:30:02,501 --> 00:30:02,632
You.
778
00:30:02,834 --> 00:30:05,635
Making love to you.
That's the time.
779
00:30:05,637 --> 00:30:05,769
The time.
780
00:30:05,937 --> 00:30:11,937
I feel like making dreams
come true. Oh, baby.
781
00:30:14,947 --> 00:30:16,613
Come true. Oh, baby. I
used to sing background
782
00:30:16,615 --> 00:30:19,583
I used to sing background
vocals for roberta flack on the
783
00:30:19,585 --> 00:30:20,951
Vocals for roberta flack on
the road. And roberta sometimes
784
00:30:20,953 --> 00:30:22,419
Road. And roberta sometimes
would have interviews, and
785
00:30:22,421 --> 00:30:23,787
Would have interviews, and
sometimes she'd be unable to
786
00:30:23,789 --> 00:30:25,655
Sometimes she'd be unable to
show up at soundchecks. So I
787
00:30:25,657 --> 00:30:27,557
Show up at soundchecks. So I
would sing her songs for her in
788
00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:30,293
Would sing her songs for her
in soundchecks to test her
789
00:30:30,295 --> 00:30:31,361
Soundchecks to test her
microphone. Making love to you.
790
00:30:31,363 --> 00:30:33,964
Microphone. Making love to
you. I feel like making love to
791
00:30:33,966 --> 00:30:36,066
I feel like making love
to you. That's the time.
792
00:30:36,068 --> 00:30:37,167
You. That's the time.
What happened is that one
793
00:30:37,169 --> 00:30:39,302
what happened is that one
day she had come back to the
794
00:30:39,304 --> 00:30:41,071
Day she had come back to the
theater and I was singing, and
795
00:30:41,073 --> 00:30:43,707
Theater and I was singing, and
she came over to me and she
796
00:30:43,709 --> 00:30:46,176
She came over to me and she
said, you know, you're getting
797
00:30:46,178 --> 00:30:46,777
Said, you know, you're getting
a little too comfortable
798
00:30:46,779 --> 00:30:47,543
A little too comfortable
sitting on this stool in the
799
00:30:47,545 --> 00:30:48,745
Sitting on this stool in the
background singing oohs and
800
00:30:48,747 --> 00:30:51,047
Background singing oohs and
ahs. I really want you to make
801
00:30:51,049 --> 00:30:51,782
Ahs. I really want you to make
your own statement and make
802
00:30:51,784 --> 00:30:54,351
Your own statement and make
your own record, you know? And
803
00:30:54,353 --> 00:30:55,452
Your own record, you know?
And she, in effect, fired me.
804
00:30:55,454 --> 00:30:56,953
She, in effect, fired me.
Luther vandross likes to say
805
00:30:56,955 --> 00:30:58,688
luther vandross likes to say
that I fired him, but I never
806
00:30:58,690 --> 00:31:00,224
That I fired him, but I never
really fired him. What I did
807
00:31:00,226 --> 00:31:02,993
Really fired him. What I did
was to encourage him to believe
808
00:31:02,995 --> 00:31:04,828
Was to encourage him to believe
in his own ability to produce
809
00:31:04,830 --> 00:31:07,731
In his own ability to
produce his first album.
810
00:31:07,733 --> 00:31:08,465
His first album. All
the monies that he was
811
00:31:08,467 --> 00:31:11,001
all the monies that he was
making from a hugely lucrative
812
00:31:11,003 --> 00:31:12,569
Making from a hugely lucrative
recording career as a sideman.
813
00:31:12,571 --> 00:31:14,905
Recording career as a sideman.
He was putting back into going
814
00:31:14,907 --> 00:31:16,172
He was putting back into going
into the studio and creating
815
00:31:16,174 --> 00:31:18,575
Into the studio and
creating his records.
816
00:31:18,577 --> 00:31:19,309
His records. Luther
said, hey man, I want
817
00:31:19,311 --> 00:31:20,744
luther said, hey man, I want
to make a demo for my own
818
00:31:20,746 --> 00:31:23,647
To make a demo for my own
music. And I was like, why
819
00:31:23,649 --> 00:31:24,648
Music. And I was like, why
would you want to take all the
820
00:31:24,650 --> 00:31:25,816
Would you want to take all the
headaches of being an artist?
821
00:31:25,818 --> 00:31:27,451
Headaches of being an artist?
You know, your number one
822
00:31:27,453 --> 00:31:28,252
You know, your number one
background singer in new york
823
00:31:28,254 --> 00:31:29,953
Background singer in new york
city? No, I have a sound in my
824
00:31:29,955 --> 00:31:31,855
City? No, I have a sound in my
head and I got to get it out.
825
00:31:31,857 --> 00:31:34,491
Head and I got to get it out.
So we went in the studio Sunday
826
00:31:34,493 --> 00:31:35,325
So we went in the studio Sunday
morning because that was the
827
00:31:35,327 --> 00:31:37,894
Morning because that was the
only time he could get studio
828
00:31:37,896 --> 00:31:38,395
Only time he could
get studio time.
829
00:31:38,397 --> 00:31:39,763
Time. Everybody
played on spec.
830
00:31:39,765 --> 00:31:41,097
Everybody played on spec.
Marcus miller, nat adderley,
831
00:31:41,099 --> 00:31:43,267
Marcus miller, nat adderley,
junior, you know, all the
832
00:31:43,269 --> 00:31:44,134
Junior, you know, all the
musicians, cissy houston, all
833
00:31:44,136 --> 00:31:44,901
Musicians, cissy houston, all
the singers they all sang with
834
00:31:44,903 --> 00:31:47,271
The singers they all
sang with for no money.
835
00:31:47,273 --> 00:31:48,939
For no money. Nat
says, okay, here's how
836
00:31:48,941 --> 00:31:51,574
nat says, okay, here's how it
goes, fellas. Boom boom boom
837
00:31:51,576 --> 00:31:54,711
It goes, fellas. Boom boom boom
boom boom boom boom. I'm just
838
00:31:54,713 --> 00:31:57,247
Boom boom boom boom. I'm just
reading boom boom boom boom
839
00:31:57,249 --> 00:31:58,581
Reading boom boom boom boom
boom boom boom. This is a
840
00:31:58,583 --> 00:32:01,118
Boom boom boom. This is
a quirky little bass line
841
00:32:04,956 --> 00:32:09,259
All the record companies
passed on me, turned me down,
842
00:32:09,261 --> 00:32:11,728
On me, turned me down,
including cbs, including epic,
843
00:32:11,730 --> 00:32:12,529
Including cbs, including epic,
including epic and columbia.
844
00:32:12,531 --> 00:32:13,129
Including epic and columbia.
Separately, as a matter of
845
00:32:13,131 --> 00:32:15,198
separately, as a matter of fact.
846
00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:20,170
And I went back to a
different person at epic with
847
00:32:20,172 --> 00:32:21,604
Different person at epic with
never too much. That was my
848
00:32:21,606 --> 00:32:23,307
Never too much. That was my
song, and that's how I got
849
00:32:23,309 --> 00:32:24,975
Song, and that's how I got
signed. I can't feel myself.
850
00:32:24,977 --> 00:32:26,843
Signed. I can't feel myself.
I don't want nobody else to
851
00:32:26,845 --> 00:32:28,611
I don't want nobody
else to ever love me.
852
00:32:28,613 --> 00:32:30,447
Ever love me. You are
my shining star, my
853
00:32:30,449 --> 00:32:32,482
you are my shining star, my
guiding light, my love fantasy.
854
00:32:32,484 --> 00:32:34,284
Guiding light, my love fantasy.
There's not a minute, hour,
855
00:32:34,286 --> 00:32:36,086
There's not a minute, hour,
day or night that I don't love
856
00:32:36,088 --> 00:32:39,456
Day or night that I don't love
you. You're at the top of my
857
00:32:39,458 --> 00:32:39,923
You. You're at the
top of my list.
858
00:32:39,925 --> 00:32:41,491
List. Cause I'm
always thinking
859
00:32:41,493 --> 00:32:43,093
cause I'm always thinking of
you I still remember in the
860
00:32:43,095 --> 00:32:44,294
Of you I still remember in the
days when I was scared to touch
861
00:32:44,296 --> 00:32:48,098
Days when I was scared to
touch you. How I spend my day
862
00:32:48,100 --> 00:32:49,699
You. How I spend my day
dreaming. Planning how to say I
863
00:32:49,701 --> 00:32:51,634
Dreaming. Planning how to say
I love you. You must have known
864
00:32:51,636 --> 00:32:52,936
Love you. You must have known
that I had feelings deep enough
865
00:32:52,938 --> 00:32:54,804
That I had feelings deep enough
to swim in. That's when you
866
00:32:54,806 --> 00:32:56,206
To swim in. That's when you
opened up your heart. And you
867
00:32:56,208 --> 00:33:00,644
Opened up your heart. And
you told me to come in. Oh my
868
00:33:01,245 --> 00:33:07,017
Love. A thousand
kisses from you.
869
00:33:07,019 --> 00:33:08,485
You. I remember one take.
870
00:33:08,487 --> 00:33:10,120
I remember one take. It
was just so easy to play.
871
00:33:10,122 --> 00:33:13,123
It was just so easy to play.
Simple. I mean, we knew what we
872
00:33:13,125 --> 00:33:14,358
Simple. I mean, we knew what we
were doing and I thought it was
873
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,360
Were doing and I thought it was
great. I was like, wow, this
874
00:33:16,362 --> 00:33:17,861
Great. I was like, wow, this
sounded so different than
875
00:33:17,863 --> 00:33:18,628
Sounded so different than
everything on the radio. But I
876
00:33:18,630 --> 00:33:20,990
Everything on the radio. But I
didn't hear that it was going
877
00:33:21,132 --> 00:33:25,335
To be a hit. A million days
in your arms is two grammy
878
00:33:25,337 --> 00:33:26,336
Your arms is two grammy
nominations big hit song that
879
00:33:26,338 --> 00:33:28,238
Nominations big hit song that
he had remained on the charts
880
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,141
He had remained on the
charts for 84 weeks.
881
00:33:31,143 --> 00:33:31,874
For 84 weeks. Luther
vandross never too
882
00:33:31,876 --> 00:33:34,878
luther vandross never too
much, never too much, never too
883
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,514
Much, never too much, never
too much, never too much
884
00:33:43,021 --> 00:33:48,392
When I heard never too much,
I instantly recognized it as
885
00:33:48,394 --> 00:33:49,759
Instantly recognized it as
being original, and he was wise
886
00:33:49,761 --> 00:33:51,761
Being original, and he was wise
enough to know how to stand out
887
00:33:51,763 --> 00:33:56,099
Enough to know how to stand
out and to have a hook that we
888
00:33:56,101 --> 00:33:56,732
And to have a hook that
we wouldn't forget.
889
00:33:56,734 --> 00:33:58,835
Wouldn't forget. I just don't
890
00:33:59,170 --> 00:34:02,339
Want to stop. Oh. My
891
00:34:04,709 --> 00:34:06,977
My love, my love,
love love love love.
892
00:34:06,979 --> 00:34:07,877
Love love. I can
exactly weren't sure.
893
00:34:07,879 --> 00:34:08,544
I can exactly weren't sure.
But man, when that thing hit
894
00:34:08,546 --> 00:34:09,179
But man, when that thing hit
the airwaves, everybody else
895
00:34:09,181 --> 00:34:10,113
The airwaves, everybody else
was sure. Never too much was on
896
00:34:10,115 --> 00:34:12,982
Was sure. Never too much was
on the radio all day long, and
897
00:34:13,217 --> 00:34:14,517
Relief. Absolutely free.
Listen to chasing life with
898
00:34:14,519 --> 00:34:16,452
listen to chasing life with
me, doctor sanjay gupta,
899
00:34:16,454 --> 00:34:19,022
Me, doctor sanjay gupta,
wherever you get your
900
00:34:19,256 --> 00:34:24,661
Podcasts. Look here.
Roll back the rug.
901
00:34:24,895 --> 00:34:27,130
Everybody. Move
all the tables and
902
00:34:27,132 --> 00:34:32,736
move all the tables and
chairs we're going to have us
903
00:34:32,738 --> 00:34:35,071
Chairs we're going to have
us a good time tonight.
904
00:34:35,073 --> 00:34:35,739
A good time tonight. You
are cranking up there in
905
00:34:35,741 --> 00:34:36,272
you are cranking up
there in the charts.
906
00:34:36,274 --> 00:34:37,073
The charts. Yes.
Number one with a
907
00:34:37,075 --> 00:34:39,909
yes. Number one with a
bullet in billboard. See you
908
00:34:39,911 --> 00:34:40,377
Bullet in billboard.
See you there.
909
00:34:40,379 --> 00:34:41,277
There. Moving up five notches.
910
00:34:41,279 --> 00:34:43,346
Moving up five notches.
Second week in the countdown.
911
00:34:43,348 --> 00:34:45,281
Second week in the countdown.
Here's luther vandross with
912
00:34:45,283 --> 00:34:47,884
Here's luther vandross with
his third top 40 hit. Hey,
913
00:34:47,886 --> 00:34:48,351
His third top 40
hit. Hey, look.
914
00:34:48,353 --> 00:34:49,786
Look. Now, every night when I
915
00:34:49,788 --> 00:34:53,656
now, every night when I
sleep, I dream of my baby.
916
00:34:53,658 --> 00:34:54,257
Sleep, I dream of my
baby. She's such a lady.
917
00:34:54,259 --> 00:34:55,024
She's such a lady. He
has been praised as the
918
00:34:55,026 --> 00:34:56,358
he has been praised as the
most promising all around pop
919
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,429
Most promising all around pop
soul craftsman to emerge in the
920
00:34:59,431 --> 00:35:01,097
Soul craftsman to emerge in the
80s. The man I'm referring to
921
00:35:01,099 --> 00:35:03,233
80s. The man I'm referring
to is luther vandross, singer
922
00:35:03,235 --> 00:35:04,033
Is luther vandross, singer
songwriter producer arranger
923
00:35:04,035 --> 00:35:05,768
Songwriter producer arranger
whose latest album has recently
924
00:35:05,770 --> 00:35:08,337
Whose latest album has recently
gone platinum. I'm all by to
925
00:35:08,339 --> 00:35:08,938
Gone platinum. I'm all
by to my baby comes home.
926
00:35:08,940 --> 00:35:10,139
My baby comes home. You
know somebody who has
927
00:35:10,141 --> 00:35:12,675
you know somebody who has some
money to spend lives here.
928
00:35:12,677 --> 00:35:14,811
Some money to spend lives here.
This is one spectacular house,
929
00:35:14,813 --> 00:35:19,983
This is one spectacular
house, right? Baby?
930
00:35:19,985 --> 00:35:22,285
Right? Baby? It was
the most exciting
931
00:35:22,287 --> 00:35:24,153
it was the most exciting time
in the world. So, I mean,
932
00:35:24,155 --> 00:35:26,423
Time in the world. So, I mean,
my head, my heart, everything
933
00:35:26,425 --> 00:35:28,591
My head, my heart, everything
was immersed in this business.
934
00:35:28,593 --> 00:35:29,392
Was immersed in this business.
Luther has released four
935
00:35:29,394 --> 00:35:31,928
luther has released four
albums and all of them
936
00:35:32,129 --> 00:35:34,897
Platinum. The. Baby, I'm
all right, all right.
937
00:35:34,899 --> 00:35:35,598
Right, all right. It's
not only his voice
938
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,366
it's not only his voice
that's made him a superstar,
939
00:35:37,368 --> 00:35:39,836
That's made him a
superstar, he's also a
940
00:35:40,071 --> 00:35:41,671
Gifted producer, arranger, and
composer. He's been behind some
941
00:35:41,673 --> 00:35:45,608
Composer. He's been behind some
of the great hit songs of david
942
00:35:45,610 --> 00:35:47,077
Of the great hit songs of david
bowie, aretha franklin and my
943
00:35:47,079 --> 00:35:47,610
Bowie, aretha franklin
and my baby calls.
944
00:35:47,612 --> 00:35:49,712
Baby calls. I
gotta jump to it.
945
00:35:49,714 --> 00:35:51,714
I gotta jump to it. One
of the the most exciting
946
00:35:51,716 --> 00:35:53,149
one of the the most exciting
moments I have ever had is the
947
00:35:53,151 --> 00:35:55,151
Moments I have ever had is the
day that I met aretha franklin.
948
00:35:55,153 --> 00:35:57,820
Day that I met aretha franklin.
I jump, jump, jump, jump.
949
00:35:57,822 --> 00:35:59,022
I jump, jump, jump, jump.
A lot of people to this day
950
00:35:59,024 --> 00:36:00,857
a lot of people to this day
don't realize that he wrote
951
00:36:00,859 --> 00:36:04,861
Don't realize that he wrote
those songs. He was a fantastic
952
00:36:04,863 --> 00:36:06,863
Those songs. He was a fantastic
songwriter who became a great
953
00:36:06,865 --> 00:36:07,730
Songwriter who became a great
artist and then who became a
954
00:36:07,732 --> 00:36:11,167
Artist and then who became a
great performer. She was just a
955
00:36:11,169 --> 00:36:11,701
Great performer. She was
just a triple threat.
956
00:36:12,002 --> 00:36:13,736
Thank you very much. I'd like
to thank my producer, mr.
957
00:36:13,738 --> 00:36:17,840
Like to thank my producer,
mr. Luther vandross. Yes, ma'am.
958
00:36:17,842 --> 00:36:19,442
Luther vandross. Yes, ma'am.
Was it a thrill having had
959
00:36:19,444 --> 00:36:21,177
was it a thrill having had
those people as your idols to
960
00:36:21,179 --> 00:36:22,845
Those people as your idols
to produce their records?
961
00:36:22,847 --> 00:36:24,213
Produce their records? Oh,
the biggest thrill in my
962
00:36:24,215 --> 00:36:25,982
oh, the biggest thrill in
my life was was meeting and
963
00:36:25,984 --> 00:36:27,984
Life was was meeting and
working with aretha and dionne.
964
00:36:27,986 --> 00:36:30,019
Working with aretha and dionne.
And how many times can we
965
00:36:30,021 --> 00:36:32,588
and how many times can
we give it one more
966
00:36:32,856 --> 00:36:35,658
Try?
967
00:36:37,328 --> 00:36:39,829
Before we. Really?
968
00:36:41,499 --> 00:36:44,066
Say goodbye and you
sing. You get over luther
969
00:36:44,068 --> 00:36:45,535
you get over luther vandross,
a big kentucky fried
970
00:36:45,537 --> 00:36:48,070
Vandross, a big kentucky
fried chicken eating
971
00:36:49,006 --> 00:36:52,241
But he put his on.
972
00:36:53,177 --> 00:36:55,478
Beyoncรฉ bowl women go,
everybody is saying, oh, did
973
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:56,179
Everybody is saying, oh, did
you hear what eddie murphy
974
00:36:56,181 --> 00:36:57,213
You hear what eddie murphy
said? I said, yeah, I love it.
975
00:36:57,215 --> 00:36:58,314
Said? I said, yeah, I love it.
I think it's great. You know,
976
00:36:58,316 --> 00:36:59,482
I think it's great. You know,
you have to know how to play
977
00:36:59,484 --> 00:37:01,317
You have to know how
to play the game.
978
00:37:01,319 --> 00:37:02,251
The game. If you're
going to have a
979
00:37:02,253 --> 00:37:04,921
if you're going to have a
party, you got to party hearty.
980
00:37:04,923 --> 00:37:06,489
Party, you got to party hearty.
You got to do this thing
981
00:37:06,491 --> 00:37:07,023
you got to do this thing right.
982
00:37:07,025 --> 00:37:09,091
Right. You know what
983
00:37:09,326 --> 00:37:11,294
I'm saying? Woo! The
reason I did this is
984
00:37:11,296 --> 00:37:12,896
the reason I did this is
because I had looked on the
985
00:37:12,898 --> 00:37:14,263
Because I had looked on the
guest list to see who was
986
00:37:14,265 --> 00:37:16,766
Guest list to see who
was coming, and I saw
987
00:37:17,034 --> 00:37:19,068
Eddie's name. That's when I
got the idea. I said, we gotta
988
00:37:19,070 --> 00:37:19,936
Got the idea. I said, we gotta
we have to address this. This
989
00:37:19,938 --> 00:37:21,704
We have to address this.
This is going to be so funny.
990
00:37:21,706 --> 00:37:22,772
Is going to be so funny.
There's been a lot of talk
991
00:37:22,774 --> 00:37:25,542
There's been a lot of talk
going on about me lately.
992
00:37:25,544 --> 00:37:27,910
Going on about me lately.
Don't think I don't know
993
00:37:27,912 --> 00:37:29,245
Don't think I don't know
about it. And I didn't want to
994
00:37:29,247 --> 00:37:30,413
About it. And I didn't want to
let eddie murphy down, you know
995
00:37:30,415 --> 00:37:32,949
Let eddie murphy down,
you know what I'm
996
00:37:34,051 --> 00:37:37,120
Saying? Ooh,
997
00:37:37,354 --> 00:37:42,625
We're america's favorite.
But after bite, tender and
998
00:37:42,627 --> 00:37:45,562
but after bite, tender and
juicy, we do it right for you.
999
00:37:45,564 --> 00:37:49,932
Juicy, we do it right for you.
Yeah luther had been dealing
1000
00:37:49,934 --> 00:37:50,733
Yeah luther had been dealing
with this weight thing forever.
1001
00:37:50,735 --> 00:37:52,569
With this weight thing forever.
He was at his best in terms
1002
00:37:52,571 --> 00:37:55,404
he was at his best in terms
of his humor. When. When he
1003
00:37:57,908 --> 00:38:00,643
Got attacked or. Or there's a
situation that was difficult
1004
00:38:00,645 --> 00:38:03,346
Situation that was difficult
for him. His humor got him
1005
00:38:04,014 --> 00:38:08,551
Through. But it was hard
for him with him, it
1006
00:38:09,420 --> 00:38:13,188
Was all or nothing at all.
1007
00:38:13,390 --> 00:38:18,294
He was either eating or he was
dieting. And I used to just
1008
00:38:18,296 --> 00:38:21,231
Was dieting. And I used to just
say, just do it when you're
1009
00:38:21,233 --> 00:38:22,599
Say, just do it when you're
ready, you know? But he he felt
1010
00:38:22,601 --> 00:38:23,933
Ready, you know? But he he felt
like this was something that he
1011
00:38:23,935 --> 00:38:28,771
Like this was something that
he had to do, you know, to be
1012
00:38:28,773 --> 00:38:29,638
Had to do, you know, to be
accepted. What's there to say?
1013
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,441
Accepted. What's
there to say? There's
1014
00:38:31,708 --> 00:38:37,708
Not much to talk about. And
whatever happened to all of the
1015
00:38:39,317 --> 00:38:39,782
Whatever happened to all
of the love that we had?
1016
00:38:39,784 --> 00:38:39,982
Love that we had?
1017
00:38:40,150 --> 00:38:44,320
Well, you have lost
so much weight.
1018
00:38:44,322 --> 00:38:46,956
Weight. You looks
you have lost
1019
00:38:47,424 --> 00:38:48,557
How much? 126 pounds.
1020
00:38:48,559 --> 00:38:49,292
126 pounds. Someone
was just saying over
1021
00:38:49,294 --> 00:38:50,026
someone was just saying over
there when they saw you sit
1022
00:38:50,028 --> 00:38:50,726
There when they saw you sit
down, they said, who's that?
1023
00:38:50,728 --> 00:38:51,494
Down, they said, who's that?
And I said, it's luther
1024
00:38:51,496 --> 00:38:52,262
And I said, it's luther
vandross. And they said, no,
1025
00:38:52,264 --> 00:38:54,163
Vandross. And they said, no,
no, no. He's about 150 pounds
1026
00:38:54,165 --> 00:38:55,731
No, no. He's about 150
pounds heavier than that.
1027
00:38:55,733 --> 00:38:56,666
Heavier than that. I'm
sure they want to know
1028
00:38:56,668 --> 00:38:57,900
I'm sure they want to know
who your diet doctor is. The
1029
00:38:57,902 --> 00:39:00,703
Who your diet doctor is. The
diet doctor, if anybody is, is,
1030
00:39:00,705 --> 00:39:04,373
Diet doctor, if anybody is, is,
uh, gianni versace. I was an
1031
00:39:04,375 --> 00:39:06,142
Uh, gianni versace. I was an
emotional eater. If something
1032
00:39:06,144 --> 00:39:07,877
Emotional eater. If something
if the music wasn't sounding
1033
00:39:07,879 --> 00:39:08,911
If the music wasn't sounding
right, I ate to cope any little
1034
00:39:08,913 --> 00:39:11,013
Right, I ate to cope any little
excuse that I could use, I
1035
00:39:11,015 --> 00:39:14,350
Excuse that I could use, I
would use to eat. And, um, I
1036
00:39:14,352 --> 00:39:15,652
Would use to eat. And, um, I
just decided not to not to do
1037
00:39:15,654 --> 00:39:18,187
Just decided not to
not to do that. You
1038
00:39:18,789 --> 00:39:21,157
Know, I just decided that that
that was not right for me. Give
1039
00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:23,826
That was not right for me. Give
me the reason I want you back.
1040
00:39:23,828 --> 00:39:27,297
Me the reason I want you back.
And why should I love you
1041
00:39:27,299 --> 00:39:27,830
and why should I love you again?
1042
00:39:27,832 --> 00:39:28,831
Again? You know,
I feel better, you
1043
00:39:28,833 --> 00:39:31,834
you know, I feel better, you
know, on stage, I move more.
1044
00:39:31,836 --> 00:39:33,146
Know, on stage, I move
more. Now, let's just say on
1045
00:39:33,170 --> 00:39:37,874
Stage I move now, whereas I
didn't before. And it hasn't
1046
00:39:37,876 --> 00:39:40,176
Didn't before. And it hasn't
affected my voice or my singing
1047
00:39:40,178 --> 00:39:42,712
Affected my voice or
my singing at all.
1048
00:39:44,081 --> 00:39:48,251
Back in the day, if you wanted
to fall in love, you let luther
1049
00:39:48,253 --> 00:39:52,322
To fall in love, you let luther
do the work for you. So I would
1050
00:39:52,324 --> 00:39:54,090
Do the work for you. So I would
put the phone up to the radio.
1051
00:39:54,092 --> 00:39:54,924
Put the phone up to the radio.
And what's crazy is you had to
1052
00:39:54,926 --> 00:39:56,058
And what's crazy is you had
to wait for it to come on the
1053
00:39:56,060 --> 00:39:58,461
Wait for it to come on the
radio, so I had to keep I'm
1054
00:39:58,463 --> 00:39:59,696
Radio, so I had to keep I'm
buying time until it came. And
1055
00:39:59,698 --> 00:40:01,063
Buying time until it came. And
here's luther vandross. Oh,
1056
00:40:01,065 --> 00:40:02,798
Here's luther vandross. Oh,
perfect. And I put the phone up
1057
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:03,499
Perfect. And I put the phone
up to the radio, and I tell her
1058
00:40:03,501 --> 00:40:05,268
To the radio, and I tell her
this is what I want to tell.
1059
00:40:05,270 --> 00:40:07,870
This is what I want
to tell. Tell you. Let
1060
00:40:08,172 --> 00:40:11,274
Me hold you tight.
1061
00:40:11,875 --> 00:40:17,875
If only for one night.
1062
00:40:18,248 --> 00:40:24,248
Let me keep you. Need ease.
Now that you're feeling it, go
1063
00:40:24,889 --> 00:40:29,959
That you're feeling it, go
right back. To your fear. And I
1064
00:40:29,961 --> 00:40:30,793
Right back. To your fear. And
I can honestly say ten out of
1065
00:40:30,795 --> 00:40:31,894
Can honestly say ten out of
ten. 100 times out of 100
1066
00:40:31,896 --> 00:40:34,263
Ten. 100 times out of 100
times. I put that luther on
1067
00:40:34,265 --> 00:40:36,098
Times. I put that luther on
him. It is what it is. All
1068
00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:38,100
Him. It is what it is. All
night. The one night of your.
1069
00:40:38,102 --> 00:40:40,770
Night. The one night
of your. Love, of your
1070
00:40:40,971 --> 00:40:45,841
Love, of your. Love, your love.
1071
00:40:47,710 --> 00:40:50,679
He did that thing.
He does. Woo woo woo.
1072
00:40:50,681 --> 00:40:51,480
Woo woo woo. That's
what they think of
1073
00:40:51,482 --> 00:40:52,815
that's what they think of you
as. Because you send folks
1074
00:40:52,817 --> 00:40:55,451
You as. Because you
send folks to the
1075
00:40:55,619 --> 00:41:01,619
Bedroom one. Look in your eyes
and there I see you want to
1076
00:41:02,460 --> 00:41:03,459
And there I see you want to
give these lovely ladies a
1077
00:41:03,461 --> 00:41:04,761
Give these lovely ladies a
little preview of what a date
1078
00:41:04,763 --> 00:41:06,162
Little preview of what a
date would be like with you.
1079
00:41:06,164 --> 00:41:09,031
Would be like with you. Oh,
let me, let me run it by
1080
00:41:09,033 --> 00:41:10,833
oh, let me, let me run it by
you. First. We'll sail out on
1081
00:41:10,835 --> 00:41:13,669
You. First. We'll sail out on
my private yacht. You know, all
1082
00:41:13,671 --> 00:41:16,272
My private yacht. You know,
all alone under the stars. I've
1083
00:41:16,274 --> 00:41:18,141
Alone under the stars. I've
been fantasizing about you and
1084
00:41:18,143 --> 00:41:19,942
Been fantasizing about you and
kissing your picture and stuff.
1085
00:41:19,944 --> 00:41:22,478
Kissing your picture and stuff.
You look like you've been
1086
00:41:22,946 --> 00:41:27,216
Kissing a weed whacker. I look
in your eyes, so they call you
1087
00:41:27,218 --> 00:41:28,350
In your eyes, so they call you
doctor love. Now you let me
1088
00:41:28,352 --> 00:41:29,585
Doctor love. Now you let me
tell you something. I don't
1089
00:41:29,587 --> 00:41:30,653
Tell you something. I don't
really take that title. I want
1090
00:41:30,655 --> 00:41:33,122
Really take that title. I want
to be remembered as a premier
1091
00:41:33,124 --> 00:41:34,357
To be remembered as a premier
singer of our day, all right?
1092
00:41:34,359 --> 00:41:38,628
Singer of our day, all right?
Not as the love doctor. The
1093
00:41:38,829 --> 00:41:43,833
Love that we share. Makes
light. Because he was
1094
00:41:43,835 --> 00:41:45,868
makes light. Because he was
so, so into the singing aspect
1095
00:41:45,870 --> 00:41:47,170
So, so into the singing aspect
of things. He didn't want that
1096
00:41:47,172 --> 00:41:51,040
Of things. He didn't want that
to be all you. You got out of
1097
00:41:51,042 --> 00:41:51,707
To be all you. You got out
of the musical experience of
1098
00:41:51,709 --> 00:41:55,044
The musical experience of
seeing him. So he would talk us
1099
00:41:55,046 --> 00:41:55,778
Seeing him. So he would talk
us down from it, but they were
1100
00:41:55,780 --> 00:41:58,347
Down from it, but they
were still running to the
1101
00:41:58,982 --> 00:42:02,151
Bedroom. Here
1102
00:42:03,020 --> 00:42:06,322
And. Now. I
1103
00:42:07,324 --> 00:42:13,324
Promise to love
faithfully he was your
1104
00:42:16,166 --> 00:42:19,335
Love is all. I.
1105
00:42:20,904 --> 00:42:24,073
Need. Nine.
1106
00:42:30,681 --> 00:42:31,914
And I keep getting the
1107
00:42:33,349 --> 00:42:35,250
the whole story with anderson
cooper Sunday at 8:00
1108
00:42:35,252 --> 00:42:37,853
Anderson cooper
Sunday at 8:00 on
1109
00:42:38,388 --> 00:42:41,589
Cnn.
1110
00:42:45,928 --> 00:42:47,228
Singer luther vandross was
driving in north hollywood
1111
00:42:47,230 --> 00:42:48,330
Driving in north hollywood
Sunday when his mercedes jumped
1112
00:42:48,332 --> 00:42:50,198
Sunday when his mercedes jumped
the divider and collided with
1113
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,233
The divider and collided
with two oncoming cars.
1114
00:42:52,235 --> 00:42:53,768
Two oncoming cars. One
person in vandross's car
1115
00:42:53,770 --> 00:42:54,602
one person in vandross's car
died. The singer is listed in
1116
00:42:54,604 --> 00:42:56,338
Died. The singer
is listed in fair
1117
00:42:56,706 --> 00:42:59,875
Condition tonight with
three broken ribs.
1118
00:43:00,609 --> 00:43:02,777
It was very tragic. You know,
I was in new york and he
1119
00:43:02,779 --> 00:43:04,779
Know, I was in new york and he
was in l.A., where the accident
1120
00:43:04,781 --> 00:43:05,981
Was in l.A., where the accident
happened. And I was talking to
1121
00:43:05,983 --> 00:43:08,883
Happened. And I was talking
to him in the hospital, and I
1122
00:43:08,885 --> 00:43:10,785
Him in the hospital, and I
said, man, are you okay? He
1123
00:43:10,787 --> 00:43:12,587
Said, man, are you okay? He
said, yeah, I'm good, man. I'm
1124
00:43:12,589 --> 00:43:15,390
Said, yeah, I'm good, man. I'm
good. I said, man, you need me
1125
00:43:15,392 --> 00:43:16,124
Good. I said, man, you need me
to come out. You know, that's
1126
00:43:16,126 --> 00:43:16,991
To come out. You know, that's
what we all say. You know, when
1127
00:43:16,993 --> 00:43:18,293
What we all say. You know, when
something happens, you know? He
1128
00:43:18,295 --> 00:43:19,194
Something happens, you know? He
said, actually, yeah. It's the
1129
00:43:19,196 --> 00:43:20,095
Said, actually, yeah. It's the
first time somebody ever said,
1130
00:43:20,097 --> 00:43:21,096
First time somebody ever said,
yeah, actually, yeah, I could
1131
00:43:21,098 --> 00:43:26,901
Yeah, actually, yeah, I could
use the support, you know.
1132
00:43:26,903 --> 00:43:27,002
Use the support, you know.
1133
00:43:27,236 --> 00:43:31,239
I lost one of my best friends,
and I just do not want
1134
00:43:31,241 --> 00:43:33,074
Friends, and I just do not want
to get back in touch with that
1135
00:43:33,076 --> 00:43:35,110
To get back in touch with that
in terms of doing an interview.
1136
00:43:35,112 --> 00:43:36,244
In terms of doing an interview.
And, and really, you know,
1137
00:43:36,246 --> 00:43:37,746
And, and really, you know,
talking about the I don't want
1138
00:43:37,748 --> 00:43:40,115
Talking about the I don't
want to relive that. That's an
1139
00:43:40,117 --> 00:43:41,816
To relive that. That's an
unfortunate thing that, you
1140
00:43:41,818 --> 00:43:44,452
Unfortunate thing
that, you know, that I
1141
00:43:45,421 --> 00:43:48,557
Wish had never happened.
1142
00:43:49,392 --> 00:43:52,928
So after he had the car
accident, it was a really rough
1143
00:43:52,930 --> 00:43:55,731
Accident, it was a really rough
time. But someone was killed in
1144
00:43:55,733 --> 00:43:57,665
Time. But someone was killed
in that accident, so it took a
1145
00:43:57,667 --> 00:43:59,834
That accident, so it took a
toll on him. And food was his
1146
00:43:59,836 --> 00:44:02,404
Toll on him. And
food was his panacea.
1147
00:44:02,605 --> 00:44:05,306
Food was his medicine, he
thought he said food has never
1148
00:44:05,308 --> 00:44:07,609
Thought he said food has never
let me down. And I said, yes,
1149
00:44:07,611 --> 00:44:10,145
Let me down. And I
said, yes, it has. Food
1150
00:44:10,346 --> 00:44:13,181
Is not your friend.
1151
00:44:17,353 --> 00:44:18,653
I was walking down the street
and this woman comes up
1152
00:44:18,655 --> 00:44:19,454
Street and this woman comes
up to me and she says, you're
1153
00:44:19,456 --> 00:44:20,488
To me and she says, you're
going to put it all back on,
1154
00:44:20,490 --> 00:44:23,959
Going to put it all back on,
just like luther did, which was
1155
00:44:23,961 --> 00:44:25,594
Just like luther did, which was
such a mean thing, you know,
1156
00:44:25,596 --> 00:44:27,896
Such a mean thing, you know,
such a mean thing to say.
1157
00:44:27,898 --> 00:44:30,131
Such a mean thing to say.
Anyone without the problem
1158
00:44:30,133 --> 00:44:31,866
anyone without the problem
may or may not understand the
1159
00:44:31,868 --> 00:44:33,501
May or may not understand the
full implication of what it is.
1160
00:44:33,503 --> 00:44:36,137
Full implication of what it
is. You know, it's all kinds of
1161
00:44:36,139 --> 00:44:37,005
You know, it's all kinds of
things. It's not just eating.
1162
00:44:37,007 --> 00:44:37,739
Things. It's not just
eating. It's not the food is
1163
00:44:37,741 --> 00:44:39,207
It's not the food is
incidental in it. It is more
1164
00:44:39,209 --> 00:44:41,309
Incidental in it. It is more
about your emotional state.
1165
00:44:41,311 --> 00:44:43,745
About your emotional state.
Right? Whatever your your
1166
00:44:43,747 --> 00:44:44,545
Right? Whatever your your
coping mechanism is, you know,
1167
00:44:44,547 --> 00:44:47,348
Coping mechanism is, you know,
if you feel hurt or betrayed
1168
00:44:47,350 --> 00:44:51,119
If you feel hurt or betrayed
you. Whether you know it or
1169
00:44:51,454 --> 00:44:52,788
Not, you go. You cope with
something. Something you cope
1170
00:44:52,790 --> 00:44:55,557
Something. Something you cope
with. You either go to church,
1171
00:44:55,559 --> 00:44:57,626
With. You either go to church,
you, you do drugs, you overeat,
1172
00:44:57,628 --> 00:45:00,562
You, you do drugs, you overeat,
you do something to cope.
1173
00:45:00,564 --> 00:45:03,398
You do something to cope.
We were preparing to tour
1174
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,903
we were preparing to tour
and they said, we're going to
1175
00:45:08,738 --> 00:45:13,408
Cancel the tour. But then he
decided to go and we gave him
1176
00:45:13,410 --> 00:45:17,012
Decided to go and we gave him
so much love he needed to be on
1177
00:45:17,014 --> 00:45:19,014
So much love he needed to be on
the road. Even though that had
1178
00:45:19,016 --> 00:45:19,614
The road. Even though that
had happened. Mentally.
1179
00:45:19,616 --> 00:45:20,448
Happened. Mentally. And
that. And that's exactly
1180
00:45:20,450 --> 00:45:22,016
and that. And that's exactly
what we said to him. You need
1181
00:45:22,018 --> 00:45:24,219
What we said to him.
You need to come out.
1182
00:45:24,221 --> 00:45:27,222
To come out. And he
really felt that,
1183
00:45:27,224 --> 00:45:27,722
and he really felt
that, that vibe.
1184
00:45:28,056 --> 00:45:29,925
Can we
1185
00:45:30,225 --> 00:45:33,094
Try this? Kevin? Um, santa here
in front of that and you all
1186
00:45:33,096 --> 00:45:34,229
In front of that and you all
take a, um, I really would like
1187
00:45:34,231 --> 00:45:35,196
Take a, um, I really would
like to give a ride to each.
1188
00:45:35,198 --> 00:45:37,699
To give a ride to each. Now,
1189
00:45:37,900 --> 00:45:39,234
He was a hard taskmaster, which
means, you know, when we went
1190
00:45:39,236 --> 00:45:42,237
Means, you know, when we went
to rehearsal or when we were
1191
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:43,038
To rehearsal or when we were
putting the show together, we
1192
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:43,571
Putting the show together,
we really worked.
1193
00:45:43,573 --> 00:45:43,872
Really worked. Right?
1194
00:45:43,874 --> 00:45:44,706
Right? And just.
You don't have to
1195
00:45:44,708 --> 00:45:47,242
and just. You don't have to
get here at the same time
1196
00:45:47,244 --> 00:45:47,975
Get here at the same time
because there's different
1197
00:45:47,977 --> 00:45:48,677
Because there's different
distances, you know, to travel.
1198
00:45:48,679 --> 00:45:49,845
Distances, you know, to travel.
We wave at you. Was that
1199
00:45:49,847 --> 00:45:51,913
we wave at you. Was that power
of love when we walk down
1200
00:45:51,915 --> 00:45:54,249
Power of love when we
walk down the street?
1201
00:45:54,251 --> 00:45:54,916
The street? That's this one.
1202
00:45:54,918 --> 00:45:55,783
That's this one. Okay.
1203
00:45:55,785 --> 00:45:56,852
Okay. When we I
just need in my
1204
00:45:56,854 --> 00:45:58,053
when we I just need in my
head to know where I end and
1205
00:45:58,055 --> 00:46:00,822
Head to know where I
end and where to go.
1206
00:46:00,824 --> 00:46:02,057
Where to go. Ten
hour days, six days a
1207
00:46:02,059 --> 00:46:03,859
ten hour days, six days a
week. That's right. Ten hour
1208
00:46:03,861 --> 00:46:06,394
Week. That's right.
Ten hour days. Me and
1209
00:46:06,929 --> 00:46:10,665
Lisa was like, are choreography
early? And then we would be
1210
00:46:10,667 --> 00:46:12,133
Early? And then we would be
learning it. And then luther
1211
00:46:12,135 --> 00:46:14,602
Learning it. And then luther
would come in and sit there and
1212
00:46:14,604 --> 00:46:16,271
Would come in and sit there and
watch us do the choreography
1213
00:46:16,273 --> 00:46:17,605
Watch us do the choreography
and try to put in, put the
1214
00:46:17,607 --> 00:46:19,440
And try to put in, put the
music with it. He'd be like,
1215
00:46:19,442 --> 00:46:21,176
Music with it. He'd be like,
excuse me, I'm not playing the
1216
00:46:21,178 --> 00:46:23,545
Excuse me, I'm not playing
the lottery. So get it right?
1217
00:46:23,547 --> 00:46:27,749
Lottery. So get it right?
That's right. You know, so you
1218
00:46:28,217 --> 00:46:32,954
Have. No one, no one, no one,
1219
00:46:33,489 --> 00:46:36,658
No one, no one,
1220
00:46:37,326 --> 00:46:43,231
No one, no one, no. One,
1221
00:46:46,802 --> 00:46:49,971
No. No. One.
1222
00:46:50,907 --> 00:46:55,109
We got a trailer for
lisa when she comes in.
1223
00:46:55,111 --> 00:46:55,577
When she comes
in. Right. Okay.
1224
00:46:55,579 --> 00:46:57,011
Right. Okay. He would
cast vocally, cast
1225
00:46:57,013 --> 00:47:00,916
he would cast vocally, cast
the right people with the right
1226
00:47:01,117 --> 00:47:05,520
Vibration of sound, the right
weight in their voice to
1227
00:47:05,522 --> 00:47:06,388
Weight in their voice to
complement the other person's
1228
00:47:06,390 --> 00:47:06,788
Complement the other
person's voice.
1229
00:47:06,790 --> 00:47:09,123
Voice. It was
almost like being a
1230
00:47:09,125 --> 00:47:11,626
it was almost like being a
film director for your ears
1231
00:47:12,495 --> 00:47:15,797
The rhythm is. To
1232
00:47:16,465 --> 00:47:22,465
Who? Who? Who. And it
goes on a cycle until
1233
00:47:24,141 --> 00:47:24,739
and it goes on a cycle
until the band fades out.
1234
00:47:24,741 --> 00:47:27,308
The band fades out. I
sure like us going back to
1235
00:47:27,310 --> 00:47:28,977
I sure like us going back to
this one again. It's easier.
1236
00:47:28,979 --> 00:47:32,080
This one again. It's easier.
Okay, so close your eyes
1237
00:47:32,082 --> 00:47:33,602
okay, so close your
eyes closer. And
1238
00:47:34,050 --> 00:47:37,318
You can feel it.
The requirement of
1239
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,687
the requirement of perfection
and the willingness
1240
00:47:39,689 --> 00:47:44,525
Perfection and the willingness
to take whatever time you
1241
00:47:44,527 --> 00:47:47,161
To take whatever time you
needed and spend whatever money
1242
00:47:47,163 --> 00:47:48,363
Needed and spend whatever money
you needed to accomplish that
1243
00:47:48,365 --> 00:47:50,999
You needed to accomplish
that because it's going to be
1244
00:47:51,001 --> 00:47:51,532
Because it's going to be right.
1245
00:47:51,534 --> 00:47:53,668
Right. You got to
1246
00:47:53,869 --> 00:47:58,039
Believe in love. It's feeling
at next turn and then stop
1247
00:47:58,041 --> 00:48:00,375
At next turn and then stop
until we are one with the power
1248
00:48:00,377 --> 00:48:01,810
Until we are one with
the power of love.
1249
00:48:01,812 --> 00:48:02,677
Of love. Tell
everyone when you're
1250
00:48:02,679 --> 00:48:03,411
tell everyone when you're out
there on the road, man, you
1251
00:48:03,413 --> 00:48:04,545
Out there on the road, man, you
know you have your good nights
1252
00:48:04,547 --> 00:48:07,048
Know you have your good nights
and your bad nights. No man.
1253
00:48:07,050 --> 00:48:10,585
And your bad nights. No man.
Every night, every night he was
1254
00:48:10,587 --> 00:48:12,186
Every night, every night he
was nailing it. And he expected
1255
00:48:12,188 --> 00:48:14,689
Nailing it. And he expected
everybody to nail it. Also,
1256
00:48:14,923 --> 00:48:18,026
When we walk down the
1257
00:48:18,260 --> 00:48:23,931
Street, we don't care who we
see or who meeting don't need
1258
00:48:23,933 --> 00:48:26,901
See or who meeting
don't need to run.
1259
00:48:26,903 --> 00:48:28,303
To run. Don't need
to hide. Cause
1260
00:48:29,839 --> 00:48:32,774
We've got something
burning inside.
1261
00:48:33,009 --> 00:48:35,910
Hey, we've got. Love
1262
00:48:36,111 --> 00:48:41,215
Love, power, power. We
all appreciated the witch
1263
00:48:41,217 --> 00:48:42,684
we all appreciated the witch
because it was making us
1264
00:48:42,686 --> 00:48:44,152
Because it was making us
better. And we saw year after
1265
00:48:44,154 --> 00:48:46,421
Better. And we saw year
after year how how we were
1266
00:48:46,423 --> 00:48:47,922
Year how how we were
developing. We were ready to
1267
00:48:47,924 --> 00:48:50,224
Developing. We were ready to
get up every day and go to work
1268
00:48:50,226 --> 00:48:52,393
Get up every day and go to work
for him. I know, I know that
1269
00:48:52,395 --> 00:48:52,861
For him. I know, I
know that we've got.
1270
00:48:52,863 --> 00:48:53,862
We've got. Love. We
got love with all
1271
00:48:53,864 --> 00:48:55,596
love. We got love with all of
the power. Yes, with all of
1272
00:48:55,598 --> 00:48:58,033
Of the power. Yes, with all of
the power. The greatest power
1273
00:48:58,035 --> 00:49:00,635
The power. The
greatest power of
1274
00:49:01,137 --> 00:49:05,973
Them all. Oh. Love the love,
the love power. Somewhere in
1275
00:49:05,975 --> 00:49:10,045
The love power. Somewhere in
the world together we can fall
1276
00:49:10,047 --> 00:49:11,346
The world together we can fall
I know, I know that we got
1277
00:49:11,348 --> 00:49:11,846
I know, I know that we got love.
1278
00:49:11,848 --> 00:49:12,613
Love. People would
say you could
1279
00:49:12,615 --> 00:49:13,915
people would say you could
just go on stage with a
1280
00:49:13,917 --> 00:49:14,982
Just go on stage with a
flashlight and not spend any
1281
00:49:14,984 --> 00:49:16,351
Flashlight and not spend any
money on staging and clothes.
1282
00:49:16,353 --> 00:49:18,986
Money on staging and clothes.
And we'd be fine with that. He
1283
00:49:18,988 --> 00:49:21,623
And we'd be fine with
that. He wasn't fine with
1284
00:49:39,141 --> 00:49:42,077
Me awake at night. Tossing and
turning my. Want a kiss? Wanna
1285
00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:44,079
Turning my. Want a kiss? Wanna
hold your soul to. Ooh. But I
1286
00:49:44,081 --> 00:49:46,647
Hold your soul to.
Ooh. But I want
1287
00:49:46,882 --> 00:49:52,820
To love. Whether you know or
not. When you just hug me away.
1288
00:49:52,822 --> 00:49:55,690
Not. When you just hug me away.
Leaving me laying there and
1289
00:49:55,692 --> 00:50:00,228
leaving me laying there and I
just want to be the one that
1290
00:50:00,230 --> 00:50:02,130
I just want to be the
one that you want to see.
1291
00:50:02,132 --> 00:50:04,099
You want to see. The
elegance of those
1292
00:50:04,101 --> 00:50:04,699
the elegance of those
dresses. Every dress was
1293
00:50:04,701 --> 00:50:06,067
Dresses. Every dress was
hand-beaded and just so
1294
00:50:06,069 --> 00:50:08,937
Hand-beaded and just so
beautiful. So beautiful.
1295
00:50:08,939 --> 00:50:11,472
Beautiful. So beautiful.
Fly away almost every day.
1296
00:50:11,474 --> 00:50:13,641
Fly away almost every day.
You're work a lot. You
1297
00:50:13,643 --> 00:50:18,913
you're work a lot. You never
stop to love I love you.
1298
00:50:18,915 --> 00:50:21,516
Never stop to love I love
you. Stop, stop. Come
1299
00:50:23,119 --> 00:50:27,922
Home from the road. Gotta
stop to love. Yeah. And
1300
00:50:28,157 --> 00:50:31,592
Let's celebrate. Celebrate
the love we got. Stop.
1301
00:50:31,594 --> 00:50:32,693
Love we got. Stop. He
designed many of the
1302
00:50:32,695 --> 00:50:34,061
he designed many of the
costumes himself and said.
1303
00:50:34,063 --> 00:50:35,530
Costumes himself and said.
Listen, this is my idea. And
1304
00:50:35,532 --> 00:50:36,297
Listen, this is my idea. And
took it to somebody and say,
1305
00:50:36,299 --> 00:50:37,332
Took it to somebody and say,
this is what I want you to
1306
00:50:37,334 --> 00:50:41,068
This is what I want you to
create. That is the key to
1307
00:50:41,070 --> 00:50:41,902
Create. That is the key to
luther's entire career. You
1308
00:50:41,904 --> 00:50:42,903
Luther's entire career. You
know, people don't understand
1309
00:50:42,905 --> 00:50:44,172
Know, people don't understand
those amazing shows and all of
1310
00:50:44,174 --> 00:50:46,407
Those amazing shows and all
of the regalia, all of the
1311
00:50:46,409 --> 00:50:47,542
The regalia, all of the
costuming and all the staging
1312
00:50:47,544 --> 00:50:50,344
Costuming and all the staging
and all that kind of stuff. He
1313
00:50:50,346 --> 00:50:51,746
And all that kind of stuff.
He was putting his money into
1314
00:50:51,748 --> 00:50:54,348
Was putting his money into
putting on those shows. Have
1315
00:50:54,583 --> 00:50:57,719
We got some? So
1316
00:50:59,021 --> 00:51:03,925
You're coming. Home? Oh,
up to love. All right.
1317
00:51:04,159 --> 00:51:07,028
I love you. Stop, stop,
1318
00:51:08,097 --> 00:51:14,097
Stop. I feel my. To the beat.
All right. We are live for
1319
00:51:14,170 --> 00:51:15,136
all right. We are live
for our tribute to luther.
1320
00:51:15,138 --> 00:51:17,738
Our tribute to luther.
Everybody's here
1321
00:51:18,174 --> 00:51:22,610
Right? At this time. Our guest
of honor has arrived. Ladies
1322
00:51:22,612 --> 00:51:25,746
Of honor has arrived. Ladies
and gentlemen, mr. Luther
1323
00:51:25,748 --> 00:51:27,108
And gentlemen,
mr. Luther vandross.
1324
00:51:33,522 --> 00:51:37,692
Luther, welcome. Thank you.
Glad to be here. Luther
1325
00:51:37,694 --> 00:51:39,093
Glad to be here. Luther
vandross, look at all your
1326
00:51:39,095 --> 00:51:41,196
Vandross, look at all your
fans. How does it feel when you
1327
00:51:41,198 --> 00:51:41,796
Fans. How does it feel when
you see luther was r&b music?
1328
00:51:41,798 --> 00:51:42,597
See luther was r&b music?
It was great r&b music. And
1329
00:51:42,599 --> 00:51:44,131
it was great r&b music. And
a lot of that was to his
1330
00:51:44,133 --> 00:51:48,769
A lot of that was to his
benefit. But it would only be
1331
00:51:48,771 --> 00:51:50,071
Benefit. But it would only be
played on black radio. So it
1332
00:51:50,073 --> 00:51:51,606
Played on black radio. So it
became a challenge is when he
1333
00:51:51,608 --> 00:51:56,978
Became a challenge is when he
wanted to cross over because
1334
00:51:56,980 --> 00:51:59,647
Wanted to cross over because
luther was not necessarily
1335
00:51:59,649 --> 00:52:02,083
Luther was not necessarily
embraced or given the freedom
1336
00:52:02,085 --> 00:52:04,785
Embraced or given the freedom
to do it the same way that
1337
00:52:04,787 --> 00:52:07,388
To do it the same way that
other artists that don't look
1338
00:52:08,691 --> 00:52:12,793
Like luther are. He
felt very strongly that
1339
00:52:12,795 --> 00:52:15,830
he felt very strongly that
he was being treated in a
1340
00:52:15,832 --> 00:52:17,242
He was being treated
in a racist way by
1341
00:52:17,266 --> 00:52:22,603
The executives. He felt it from
the budgets that he was being
1342
00:52:22,605 --> 00:52:23,905
The budgets that he was being
given to make records to the
1343
00:52:23,907 --> 00:52:24,906
Given to make records to the
amount of money that they were
1344
00:52:24,908 --> 00:52:26,307
Amount of money that they were
spending to promote. When he'd
1345
00:52:26,309 --> 00:52:27,642
Spending to promote. When he'd
look around and know that the
1346
00:52:27,644 --> 00:52:29,610
Look around and know that the
promotion budgets for that
1347
00:52:29,612 --> 00:52:30,578
Promotion budgets for that
white artist or that white
1348
00:52:30,580 --> 00:52:32,080
White artist or that white
artist were triple what they
1349
00:52:32,082 --> 00:52:32,980
Artist were triple what they
were spending on his records.
1350
00:52:32,982 --> 00:52:34,482
Were spending on his records.
He was not a guy who sort of
1351
00:52:34,484 --> 00:52:36,451
He was not a guy who sort of
just made records and stayed
1352
00:52:36,453 --> 00:52:37,351
Just made records and stayed
out of the business side of it.
1353
00:52:37,353 --> 00:52:40,488
Out of the business side of it.
He was very astute. He was a
1354
00:52:40,490 --> 00:52:41,256
He was very astute. He was a
very astute businessman, and he
1355
00:52:41,258 --> 00:52:43,190
Very astute
businessman, and he he
1356
00:52:43,392 --> 00:52:47,095
Knew what was happening.
The concept of crossing over
1357
00:52:47,097 --> 00:52:49,630
the concept of crossing over
was really so important,
1358
00:52:49,632 --> 00:52:52,133
Was really so
important, honestly, to
1359
00:52:52,635 --> 00:52:58,635
Every artist, radio in america
really was black, white, black,
1360
00:52:58,975 --> 00:53:00,808
Really was black, white, black,
white. And when you had the
1361
00:53:00,810 --> 00:53:02,744
White. And when you had the
ability to cross over, if you
1362
00:53:02,746 --> 00:53:04,479
Ability to cross over, if you
were fortunate enough to cross
1363
00:53:04,481 --> 00:53:08,382
Were fortunate enough to cross
over, really what that did for
1364
00:53:08,384 --> 00:53:10,285
Over, really what that did
for you was give you way more
1365
00:53:10,287 --> 00:53:12,520
You was give you way more
record sales, because now you
1366
00:53:12,522 --> 00:53:13,521
Record sales, because now you
had other lanes. You didn't
1367
00:53:13,523 --> 00:53:14,756
Had other lanes. You didn't
just get played on the black
1368
00:53:14,758 --> 00:53:16,290
Just get played on the black
station, you got played on the
1369
00:53:16,292 --> 00:53:18,960
Station, you got played on
the white stations as well.
1370
00:53:18,962 --> 00:53:20,494
White stations as well.
When records and cds were
1371
00:53:20,496 --> 00:53:21,763
when records and cds were sold
in stores, when you walked
1372
00:53:21,765 --> 00:53:24,799
Sold in stores, when you walked
into the store, it was very
1373
00:53:24,801 --> 00:53:25,800
Into the store, it was very
rare that black records were
1374
00:53:25,802 --> 00:53:27,268
Rare that black records were
even at the front of the store.
1375
00:53:27,270 --> 00:53:29,470
Even at the front of the store.
So if you just came in to
1376
00:53:29,472 --> 00:53:30,671
So if you just came in to
browse and you were a fan of
1377
00:53:30,673 --> 00:53:31,973
Browse and you were a fan of
black music, you walk in the
1378
00:53:31,975 --> 00:53:34,442
Black music, you walk in the
store and you're just looking
1379
00:53:34,444 --> 00:53:35,176
Store and you're just looking
and you ain't really. Do they
1380
00:53:35,178 --> 00:53:38,580
And you ain't really. Do they
even sell black music in here?
1381
00:53:38,582 --> 00:53:39,413
Even sell black music in here?
And then somebody is telling
1382
00:53:39,415 --> 00:53:43,684
And then somebody is telling
you and it's at the back. This
1383
00:53:43,686 --> 00:53:44,652
You and it's at the back. This
is real talk. And when you go
1384
00:53:44,654 --> 00:53:45,820
Is real talk. And when you go
to the back, it's starting to
1385
00:53:45,822 --> 00:53:48,756
To the back, it's starting to
smell like mice. And you know
1386
00:53:48,758 --> 00:53:50,657
Smell like mice. And you know
what I'm saying? The speakers
1387
00:53:50,659 --> 00:53:53,595
What I'm saying? The speakers
are staticky. And are they even
1388
00:53:53,597 --> 00:53:54,963
Are staticky. And are they
even playing black music in the
1389
00:53:54,965 --> 00:53:56,063
Playing black music in the
record store for you to get
1390
00:53:56,065 --> 00:53:57,498
Record store for you to get
that taste of, oh, should I buy
1391
00:53:57,500 --> 00:53:58,967
That taste of, oh, should I buy
that? And luther was fighting
1392
00:53:58,969 --> 00:54:01,101
That? And luther was fighting
all of this. That's why when
1393
00:54:01,103 --> 00:54:05,607
All of this. That's why when
you hear him quoted so often, I
1394
00:54:05,609 --> 00:54:07,809
You hear him quoted so often, I
want a number one record. Some
1395
00:54:07,811 --> 00:54:10,711
Want a number one record. Some
of that is I want a number one
1396
00:54:10,713 --> 00:54:12,146
Of that is I want a number one
record. Some of it is I want to
1397
00:54:12,148 --> 00:54:14,915
Record. Some of it is I want
to be treated fairly in this
1398
00:54:14,917 --> 00:54:15,383
Be treated fairly
in this business.
1399
00:54:15,385 --> 00:54:16,517
Business. Live from the shrine
1400
00:54:16,519 --> 00:54:19,020
live from the shrine
auditorium in los angeles, the
1401
00:54:19,022 --> 00:54:21,556
Auditorium in los angeles,
the 28th annual grammy awards
1402
00:54:21,558 --> 00:54:22,089
28th annual grammy
awards tonight.
1403
00:54:22,091 --> 00:54:22,890
Tonight. Luther
wanted to be number
1404
00:54:22,892 --> 00:54:26,761
luther wanted to be number one
on the pop charts, and then
1405
00:54:26,763 --> 00:54:28,963
One on the pop charts, and then
he also wanted a grammy. Now,
1406
00:54:28,965 --> 00:54:32,933
He also wanted a grammy. Now,
most of us are too cool to want
1407
00:54:32,935 --> 00:54:34,636
Most of us are too cool to want
a grammy. You know you want it.
1408
00:54:34,638 --> 00:54:35,803
A grammy. You know you want
it. You're too cool to say you
1409
00:54:35,805 --> 00:54:36,704
You're too cool to say you
want it. Luther didn't care
1410
00:54:36,706 --> 00:54:38,172
Want it. Luther didn't care
about that. He's like, I want
1411
00:54:38,174 --> 00:54:40,008
About that. He's like, I want
my grandmother. And it took a
1412
00:54:40,010 --> 00:54:45,813
My grandmother. And it took a
while and the grammy goes to
1413
00:54:45,815 --> 00:54:47,715
While and the grammy goes to
terence trent d'arby. We're
1414
00:54:47,717 --> 00:54:49,817
Terence trent d'arby. We're
here to present the grammy for
1415
00:54:49,819 --> 00:54:52,387
Here to present the grammy for
best r&b performance, male.
1416
00:54:52,389 --> 00:54:55,289
Best r&b performance, male.
And the grammy goes to mr.
1417
00:54:55,291 --> 00:54:57,124
And the grammy goes
to mr. Stevie wonder.
1418
00:54:57,126 --> 00:54:59,861
Stevie wonder. And
the grammy goes to.
1419
00:54:59,863 --> 00:55:02,530
And the grammy goes to. Living
in america, james brown.
1420
00:55:03,465 --> 00:55:05,400
She calls me up, he says, so
the grammys are in new york
1421
00:55:05,402 --> 00:55:06,767
The grammys are in new york
this year. He'd been nominated
1422
00:55:06,769 --> 00:55:09,871
This year. He'd been nominated
nine times before and had not
1423
00:55:09,873 --> 00:55:10,704
Nine times before and had not
won. He said, I ain't gonna
1424
00:55:10,706 --> 00:55:12,840
Won. He said, I ain't gonna
win. So listen, just come with
1425
00:55:12,842 --> 00:55:13,808
Win. So listen, just come with
me. You know, we'll go to the
1426
00:55:13,810 --> 00:55:16,444
Me. You know, we'll go to the
ceremony, we'll go out and eat.
1427
00:55:16,446 --> 00:55:17,278
Ceremony, we'll go out and eat.
We'll hang out the nominations
1428
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:18,913
We'll hang out the nominations
for best. Regina belle and
1429
00:55:18,915 --> 00:55:20,314
For best. Regina belle and
michael bolton are on the stage
1430
00:55:20,316 --> 00:55:22,116
Michael bolton are on the stage
calling out the names, and the
1431
00:55:22,118 --> 00:55:24,719
Calling out the names,
and the grammy goes to.
1432
00:55:25,054 --> 00:55:28,189
Luther
1433
00:55:28,857 --> 00:55:32,393
Vandross. Sam nunn. And I could
feel him go like this. And then
1434
00:55:32,395 --> 00:55:34,696
Feel him go like this. And then
he just sort of calmed down and
1435
00:55:34,698 --> 00:55:37,231
He just sort of calmed down
and just got really cool
1436
00:55:37,466 --> 00:55:43,466
For. Your I mean, I'm stunned.
I said, so this is a dude I met
1437
00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:45,339
I said, so this is a dude I met
in the projects, and he's here
1438
00:55:45,341 --> 00:55:48,442
In the projects, and he's here
tonight winning a grammy for
1439
00:55:48,444 --> 00:55:48,776
Tonight winning a
grammy for here and
1440
00:55:49,111 --> 00:55:55,111
Now. You know, love is all.
Your love is all I need
1441
00:55:56,618 --> 00:56:01,856
I'm so glad. I'm so
glad. I'm so glad.
1442
00:56:01,858 --> 00:56:04,224
I'm so glad. I'm so glad.
I'm so glad. I'm so glad. I'm
1443
00:56:04,226 --> 00:56:06,627
I'm so glad. I'm so
glad. I'm so glad.
1444
00:56:06,629 --> 00:56:09,230
So glad. I'm so glad. Yes,
1445
00:56:11,834 --> 00:56:14,869
I am. That I won a grammy.
So you walk into the studio
1446
00:56:14,871 --> 00:56:18,672
so you walk into the studio
the next day, says everyone
1447
00:56:18,674 --> 00:56:19,507
The next day, says everyone
here you are to address me for
1448
00:56:19,509 --> 00:56:21,375
Here you are to address me for
the rest of the day as luther,
1449
00:56:21,377 --> 00:56:23,477
The rest of the day as luther,
grammy winner vandross. So we
1450
00:56:23,479 --> 00:56:25,279
Grammy winner vandross. So we
laughed, right? And he made us
1451
00:56:25,281 --> 00:56:28,182
Laughed, right? And he made
us do that for the whole day.
1452
00:56:28,184 --> 00:56:30,685
Do that for the
whole day. It's
1453
00:56:30,919 --> 00:56:33,287
About time. Time, time, time.
1454
00:56:33,289 --> 00:56:35,957
Time, time, time. I had to get
1455
00:56:36,625 --> 00:56:42,296
That in. Yeah yeah
yeah yeah. Those shows
1456
00:56:42,530 --> 00:56:44,865
Can weirdly inspire you because
if you get shut out so many
1457
00:56:44,867 --> 00:56:45,866
If you get shut out so many
times, if you think about it,
1458
00:56:45,868 --> 00:56:47,501
Times, if you think about
it, luther's music just kept
1459
00:56:47,503 --> 00:56:48,836
Luther's music just kept
getting better. It kept getting
1460
00:56:48,838 --> 00:56:51,005
Getting better. It kept getting
better. He said, I'm going to
1461
00:56:51,007 --> 00:56:52,540
Better. He said, I'm going to
be undenied. And so it could be
1462
00:56:52,542 --> 00:56:53,307
Be undenied. And so it could be
the blessing and the curse. Of
1463
00:56:53,309 --> 00:56:54,175
The blessing and the curse. Of
course, he should have won a
1464
00:56:54,177 --> 00:56:55,510
Course, he should have won a
grammy nine times. Of the nine
1465
00:56:55,512 --> 00:56:58,112
Grammy nine times.
Of the nine times
1466
00:56:58,380 --> 00:56:59,413
He was shut out, but
1467
00:57:00,548 --> 00:57:04,685
cnn's five things with kate
baldwin now streaming on max I
1468
00:57:04,687 --> 00:57:04,952
Baldwin now streaming
on max I try to
1469
00:57:05,154 --> 00:57:08,923
Do songs that I think I can do
differently, you know, and that
1470
00:57:08,925 --> 00:57:10,257
Differently, you know, and that
I think fit me, you know, sort
1471
00:57:10,259 --> 00:57:12,159
I think fit me, you know, sort
of like a what somebody chooses
1472
00:57:12,161 --> 00:57:13,161
Of like a what somebody chooses
to wear, you know, when they're
1473
00:57:13,163 --> 00:57:14,895
To wear, you know, when they're
going to go to the academy
1474
00:57:14,897 --> 00:57:15,529
Going to go to the academy
awards or something.
1475
00:57:15,531 --> 00:57:16,697
Awards or something. You
know, they choose that
1476
00:57:16,699 --> 00:57:17,832
you know, they choose that
special thing, you know? So
1477
00:57:17,834 --> 00:57:20,367
Special thing, you know? So
that's the way I try to look
1478
00:57:20,369 --> 00:57:22,837
That's the way I try to
look at the tunes I cover.
1479
00:57:22,839 --> 00:57:24,538
At the tunes I cover. Now,
unlike a lot of artists
1480
00:57:24,540 --> 00:57:26,540
now, unlike a lot of artists
from like the 80s and 90s up to
1481
00:57:26,542 --> 00:57:28,375
From like the 80s and 90s up to
today, luther, his esthetic was
1482
00:57:28,377 --> 00:57:29,644
Today, luther, his esthetic
was from the 60s and the 70s.
1483
00:57:29,646 --> 00:57:32,379
From the 60s and the 70s.
Luther had heard superstar in
1484
00:57:32,381 --> 00:57:34,949
Luther had heard superstar
in the early 70s.
1485
00:57:36,584 --> 00:57:39,086
Long ago,
1486
00:57:39,287 --> 00:57:44,192
And oh, so far away. And
I'll never forget one
1487
00:57:44,194 --> 00:57:47,061
and I'll never forget one day
he walks in and says, man,
1488
00:57:47,063 --> 00:57:50,097
Day he walks in and says,
man, we're going to record
1489
00:57:50,099 --> 00:57:50,764
We're going to record
superstar. I said, the
1490
00:57:50,766 --> 00:57:51,065
Superstar. I said,
the carpenters.
1491
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,201
He goes, yeah. And I said,
okay, I know, I know better
1492
00:57:54,203 --> 00:57:55,736
Okay, I know, I know better
than to question you, but I
1493
00:57:55,738 --> 00:57:58,239
Than to question you, but
I need to see how this is
1494
00:57:59,274 --> 00:58:02,610
Going to work. I
1495
00:58:03,345 --> 00:58:06,414
Want to tell you, baby
1496
00:58:06,715 --> 00:58:12,620
The changes I've been going
1497
00:58:13,388 --> 00:58:16,457
Through. Missing
1498
00:58:16,692 --> 00:58:19,960
You. Listen, you.
1499
00:58:19,962 --> 00:58:20,694
Listen, you. Um,
when luther does a
1500
00:58:20,696 --> 00:58:22,230
um, when luther does a cover,
it's going to be slower
1501
00:58:22,232 --> 00:58:25,132
Cover, it's going to be slower
than the original version, and
1502
00:58:25,134 --> 00:58:30,238
Than the original version, and
he asked for an intro, and I
1503
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:31,605
He asked for an intro, and
I just went home and started
1504
00:58:31,607 --> 00:58:33,140
Just went home and started
arranging. That was the first
1505
00:58:33,142 --> 00:58:35,710
Arranging. That was the first
full arrangement that I did for
1506
00:58:36,879 --> 00:58:40,247
Him. Long ago.
1507
00:58:43,451 --> 00:58:46,554
And
1508
00:58:47,222 --> 00:58:50,357
I'm so far away.
1509
00:58:53,462 --> 00:58:58,933
I fell in love with you
1510
00:59:02,771 --> 00:59:05,973
Before
1511
00:59:06,174 --> 00:59:11,979
The second. Show oh
1512
00:59:12,246 --> 00:59:17,451
Don't you remember?
You told me you love
1513
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:23,857
Me, baby. You said
you'll be coming
1514
00:59:24,259 --> 00:59:27,361
Back this way again.
1515
00:59:28,330 --> 00:59:34,302
Baby. Baby, baby baby, baby
1516
00:59:34,503 --> 00:59:40,174
Oh baby yeah I
1517
00:59:40,508 --> 00:59:43,778
Love you
1518
00:59:46,048 --> 00:59:51,953
I really do he was
such a master at space.
1519
00:59:51,955 --> 00:59:54,155
Master at space. He
would let space go by.
1520
00:59:54,157 --> 00:59:55,689
He would let space go by.
And get your anticipation up
1521
00:59:55,691 --> 00:59:56,958
And get your anticipation up
for the next line. There were
1522
00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:00,894
For the next line. There were
huge pauses where it was just
1523
01:00:00,896 --> 01:00:02,563
Huge pauses where it was just
emotionally affect you. When he
1524
01:00:02,565 --> 01:00:05,532
Emotionally affect you. When he
finally came back in, you look
1525
01:00:05,534 --> 01:00:08,035
Finally came back in,
you look for me to be.
1526
01:00:08,037 --> 01:00:10,537
For me to be. Yours.
You are my lord. To
1527
01:00:10,539 --> 01:00:15,242
yours. You are my lord. To
on the road to be. Don't you
1528
01:00:17,846 --> 01:00:21,015
Remember me? Anyone?
1529
01:00:23,752 --> 01:00:26,687
And you know, there's one
point in the song where he
1530
01:00:26,689 --> 01:00:30,758
Point in the song where he
goes, keep it right there, keep
1531
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:31,993
Goes, keep it right there, keep
it right there. Because we got
1532
01:00:31,995 --> 01:00:32,960
It right there. Because we got
to that little part in the song
1533
01:00:32,962 --> 01:00:33,794
To that little part in the song
that luther likes to add after
1534
01:00:33,796 --> 01:00:35,963
That luther likes to add after
the song is supposed to be
1535
01:00:35,965 --> 01:00:36,964
The song is supposed to be
ended, keep it right there. And
1536
01:00:36,966 --> 01:00:38,566
Ended, keep it right there. And
he's telling me and the rest
1537
01:00:38,568 --> 01:00:41,235
He's telling me and the rest
of the guys who like to play
1538
01:00:41,237 --> 01:00:43,370
Of the guys who like to play
jazz don't jazz this thing up.
1539
01:00:43,372 --> 01:00:44,571
Jazz don't jazz this thing up.
Keep it right there. Play it
1540
01:00:44,573 --> 01:00:45,906
Keep it right there. Play it
easy. That's what he said.
1541
01:00:45,908 --> 01:00:47,775
Easy. That's what he said.
Play it easy. Keep it right
1542
01:00:47,777 --> 01:00:49,543
play it easy. Keep it
right there. Play it easy.
1543
01:00:49,545 --> 01:00:51,545
There. Play it easy. Keep
it right there. Keep it
1544
01:00:51,547 --> 01:00:53,581
keep it right there. Keep it
right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah
1545
01:00:53,583 --> 01:00:54,481
Right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I
1546
01:00:54,483 --> 01:00:55,015
Yeah yeah yeah yeah
yeah yeah I said okay.
1547
01:00:55,017 --> 01:00:55,749
Said okay. Well what
are you going to
1548
01:00:55,751 --> 01:00:56,917
well what are you going to
do is he's going to turn his
1549
01:00:56,919 --> 01:00:58,619
Do is he's going to turn his
vocal off when the song gets
1550
01:00:58,621 --> 01:01:01,989
Vocal off when the song gets
mixed. No, he just left it
1551
01:01:01,991 --> 01:01:02,823
Mixed. No, he just left it
right there. And it became one
1552
01:01:02,825 --> 01:01:03,457
Right there. And it became one
of the most wonderful parts of
1553
01:01:03,459 --> 01:01:06,394
Of the most wonderful
parts of the song.
1554
01:01:06,396 --> 01:01:06,626
The song.
1555
01:01:06,794 --> 01:01:12,066
And I do. Remember
even though it.
1556
01:01:14,435 --> 01:01:18,939
Was. Long ago.
1557
01:01:20,242 --> 01:01:23,377
Yeah, yeah,
1558
01:01:23,779 --> 01:01:26,914
Yeah, yeah.
1559
01:01:30,719 --> 01:01:33,821
So how do I do it? Right.
Let me let me tell you
1560
01:01:33,823 --> 01:01:34,554
let me let me tell you
something. Oh. Right there.
1561
01:01:34,556 --> 01:01:35,589
Something. Oh. Right there.
Okay. Let me give it because I
1562
01:01:35,591 --> 01:01:36,957
Okay. Let me give it because
I like the low end. Yeah. He
1563
01:01:36,959 --> 01:01:39,326
Like the low end. Yeah. He
knows if you show yourself
1564
01:01:39,328 --> 01:01:39,827
Knows if you show
yourself right.
1565
01:01:39,829 --> 01:01:40,961
Right. They all know her.
1566
01:01:40,963 --> 01:01:42,063
They all know her. They
love her. I wait until
1567
01:01:42,065 --> 01:01:44,298
they love her. I wait until
the end. Wait until after the
1568
01:01:44,300 --> 01:01:44,798
The end. Wait until
after the song.
1569
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:45,299
Song. Yeah.
1570
01:01:45,301 --> 01:01:46,099
Yeah. And they
know the record,
1571
01:01:46,101 --> 01:01:48,436
and they know the
record, right? Exactly.
1572
01:01:48,438 --> 01:01:49,503
Right? Exactly. Luther
just had such a pure
1573
01:01:49,505 --> 01:01:52,139
luther just had such a pure
heart that came out through his
1574
01:01:52,141 --> 01:01:54,675
Heart that came out through his
vocals and his music in general
1575
01:01:54,677 --> 01:01:59,346
Vocals and his music in general
that, you know, it really was,
1576
01:01:59,348 --> 01:02:00,180
That, you know, it really was,
like, otherworldly, like from
1577
01:02:00,182 --> 01:02:01,916
Like, otherworldly,
like from out
1578
01:02:03,118 --> 01:02:06,320
Of a dream.
1579
01:02:07,089 --> 01:02:11,258
And in this dream, there
was a major diva in
1580
01:02:11,460 --> 01:02:14,462
The wings waiting for me.
1581
01:02:16,431 --> 01:02:22,336
Oh, yes. She will
appear out of
1582
01:02:22,338 --> 01:02:22,836
she will appear
out of somewhere.
1583
01:02:22,838 --> 01:02:23,938
Somewhere. I was so
nervous because I
1584
01:02:23,940 --> 01:02:28,842
I was so nervous because I
had never probably played in a
1585
01:02:28,844 --> 01:02:30,878
Had never probably played in a
place that big before. It's the
1586
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:31,712
Place that big before. It's the
beginning of the performance
1587
01:02:31,714 --> 01:02:33,580
Beginning of the performance
and luther's like. I'm seeking
1588
01:02:33,582 --> 01:02:37,551
And luther's like. I'm seeking
out a diva and she's here and
1589
01:02:37,553 --> 01:02:40,121
Out a diva and she's
here and she's there.
1590
01:02:40,322 --> 01:02:45,526
And I really was honored when
he brought me out to sing
1591
01:02:46,061 --> 01:02:51,665
With him. My. Love there's only
1592
01:02:51,899 --> 01:02:57,371
You in my life. The
only thing that's
1593
01:02:57,605 --> 01:03:00,508
Right. You.
1594
01:03:01,510 --> 01:03:07,510
My first love, your every
breath that I take. Mariah kept
1595
01:03:07,683 --> 01:03:10,117
Breath that I take. Mariah kept
coming up with song titles that
1596
01:03:10,119 --> 01:03:13,053
Coming up with song titles that
she thought I would sound good
1597
01:03:13,055 --> 01:03:13,521
She thought I would
sound good singing.
1598
01:03:13,523 --> 01:03:14,523
Singing. And then
1599
01:03:14,556 --> 01:03:16,924
She suggested endless love.
And she says, oh, and I'll
1600
01:03:16,926 --> 01:03:19,226
and she says, oh, and
I'll sing it with you.
1601
01:03:19,228 --> 01:03:22,062
Sing it with you.
I want to share all
1602
01:03:23,331 --> 01:03:25,533
My love. So I guess
it was my idea.
1603
01:03:25,535 --> 01:03:29,537
So I guess it was my idea.
If luther said it was. But I
1604
01:03:29,539 --> 01:03:30,404
If luther said it was. But
I couldn't have been happier
1605
01:03:30,406 --> 01:03:33,307
Couldn't have been happier
because I was such a fan of his
1606
01:03:33,309 --> 01:03:35,743
Because I was such a fan of
his and luther being one of the
1607
01:03:35,745 --> 01:03:37,411
And luther being one of the
greatest vocalists is something
1608
01:03:37,413 --> 01:03:40,080
Greatest vocalists is something
that I really was inspired by.
1609
01:03:40,082 --> 01:03:45,386
That I really was inspired
by. I'll be that fool for
1610
01:03:46,221 --> 01:03:52,221
You, for you, baby. Oh.
So sure that your know I
1611
01:03:52,561 --> 01:03:57,464
Don't mind. You know
I don't, I don't mind
1612
01:03:58,066 --> 01:04:01,202
Yes
1613
01:04:01,636 --> 01:04:04,738
You be the only
1614
01:04:05,006 --> 01:04:10,411
One. Cause no one, no one can
1615
01:04:11,279 --> 01:04:17,279
Deny this love I have
inside you. And I give it
1616
01:04:19,988 --> 01:04:25,988
All to you. Oh my, love, my
love, my my, my, my endless.
1617
01:04:28,430 --> 01:04:31,599
Love
1618
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:37,170
La la la la la la la
la la la la la la la la
1619
01:04:39,608 --> 01:04:42,776
La. La
1620
01:04:43,445 --> 01:04:48,515
La la. Love hair.
1621
01:04:51,486 --> 01:04:56,857
Do la la la la la
la la la la la love.
1622
01:04:59,761 --> 01:05:03,230
My. Love, played a
1623
01:05:03,765 --> 01:05:07,501
Downbeat like that for a verse.
1624
01:05:07,702 --> 01:05:12,640
Yeah. No a one more time.
1625
01:05:13,875 --> 01:05:19,875
Every time you go away, I'm
gone. Yes, I always say. It's
1626
01:05:24,319 --> 01:05:27,254
Goodbye, dear.
1627
01:05:27,822 --> 01:05:32,459
Loving you the way
I do. Check it out.
1628
01:05:32,461 --> 01:05:34,661
It out. Right.
1629
01:05:34,663 --> 01:05:37,197
Right. I take you back.
1630
01:05:37,532 --> 01:05:40,868
Without you I died in
1631
01:05:44,038 --> 01:05:47,041
Knowing
1632
01:05:48,209 --> 01:05:54,209
I love you so anyone
a little would make me
1633
01:05:57,152 --> 01:06:00,154
Any. Arms. And love
1634
01:06:01,356 --> 01:06:05,292
Me too. You couldn't really
ever. Have. And let like you
1635
01:06:05,294 --> 01:06:07,861
Ever. Have. And
let like you had
1636
01:06:08,430 --> 01:06:13,433
Me and. Listen to
what am I to do?
1637
01:06:13,435 --> 01:06:15,235
Do? What I loved more than
1638
01:06:15,237 --> 01:06:16,903
what I loved more than
anything else about hearing the
1639
01:06:16,905 --> 01:06:18,339
Anything else about hearing the
songs that he decided he wanted
1640
01:06:18,341 --> 01:06:23,544
Songs that he decided he wanted
to record of mine was that he
1641
01:06:25,447 --> 01:06:27,647
Made them his own. It wasn't
all I'm going to sing like
1642
01:06:27,649 --> 01:06:28,515
All I'm going to sing like
dion sang it. I'm going to sing
1643
01:06:28,517 --> 01:06:29,048
Dion sang it. I'm going
to sing it like luther.
1644
01:06:29,050 --> 01:06:31,318
It like luther.
Mr. Luther vandross
1645
01:06:34,689 --> 01:06:37,758
Whoa!
1646
01:06:40,729 --> 01:06:43,897
Dum dum dum
1647
01:06:44,131 --> 01:06:46,733
Dum dum dum dum. Hey, baby.
1648
01:06:46,735 --> 01:06:48,268
Hey, baby. Whoa,
honey, I remember
1649
01:06:48,270 --> 01:06:50,204
whoa, honey, I remember
hearing a house is not a home
1650
01:06:50,206 --> 01:06:52,373
Hearing a house is not a home
for the first time. I couldn't
1651
01:06:52,375 --> 01:06:54,508
For the first time. I couldn't
believe that I was here. I told
1652
01:06:54,510 --> 01:06:57,444
Believe that I was here. I told
him, I said, baby doll, you
1653
01:06:57,446 --> 01:06:59,279
Him, I said, baby doll,
you have just given me the
1654
01:06:59,281 --> 01:07:01,081
Have just given me the
definitive version of that
1655
01:07:01,083 --> 01:07:01,548
Definitive version of that song.
1656
01:07:01,550 --> 01:07:03,683
Song. a
1657
01:07:03,951 --> 01:07:08,922
Chair is still a chair. Even
1658
01:07:09,157 --> 01:07:14,428
When there's no.
One sitting there.
1659
01:07:14,796 --> 01:07:17,130
Like what? He's singing about
1660
01:07:17,132 --> 01:07:19,299
he's singing about
furniture in this did sound
1661
01:07:19,301 --> 01:07:24,238
Furniture in this did sound
great. You know what I'm
1662
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:27,107
Great. You know what I'm
saying? We at wayfair put a
1663
01:07:27,109 --> 01:07:29,977
Saying? We at wayfair put a
chair is still a chair but.
1664
01:07:29,979 --> 01:07:32,579
Chair is still a
chair but. All I.
1665
01:07:32,581 --> 01:07:37,551
All I. Room is
not a house. And a
1666
01:07:37,553 --> 01:07:39,853
room is not a house. And a
house is not a. Home when the
1667
01:07:39,855 --> 01:07:42,356
House is not a.
Home when the two
1668
01:07:42,590 --> 01:07:48,495
Of us, we are far apart and
1669
01:07:50,298 --> 01:07:56,003
One of us. Has a. Broken
1670
01:07:56,471 --> 01:07:59,706
Heart. Yeah. I got
to say, when I was
1671
01:07:59,708 --> 01:08:02,209
I got to say, when I was
being honored by the naacp and
1672
01:08:02,211 --> 01:08:04,678
Being honored by the
naacp and he performed it
1673
01:08:04,912 --> 01:08:08,982
For me, it was it was
overwhelming. It really was,
1674
01:08:08,984 --> 01:08:11,184
Overwhelming. It really was,
because he just showed out that
1675
01:08:11,186 --> 01:08:14,021
Because he just showed out that
night. He really did. Cause
1676
01:08:14,023 --> 01:08:16,824
Night. He really did. Cause
I'm not meant to live alone.
1677
01:08:16,826 --> 01:08:18,892
I'm not meant to live alone.
No no no no no no no no no
1678
01:08:18,894 --> 01:08:22,463
no no no no no no no no no
no. Time is house. Into a home
1679
01:08:22,465 --> 01:08:25,032
No. Time is house. Into
a home when I climb the.
1680
01:08:25,233 --> 01:08:30,770
Stairs. When I turn the. Key.
Oh please be there saying that
1681
01:08:30,772 --> 01:08:35,876
Oh please be there saying that
you're still in love. Your. So
1682
01:08:36,978 --> 01:08:40,013
In love with me
1683
01:08:41,916 --> 01:08:45,085
Oh.
1684
01:08:46,855 --> 01:08:51,558
I'm not meant to live.
Alone. Time. This house into
1685
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:56,930
alone. Time. This house
into a home where I
1686
01:08:57,232 --> 01:09:02,870
Climb the stairs. Reach
out and turn the. Key.
1687
01:09:03,071 --> 01:09:09,071
Oh baby please be there
and still in love.
1688
01:09:12,881 --> 01:09:16,016
With.
1689
01:09:17,352 --> 01:09:23,123
Me. When?
1690
01:09:24,459 --> 01:09:30,459
Me. Oh love still
1691
01:09:32,467 --> 01:09:35,602
In love. Oh, with me.
1692
01:09:37,238 --> 01:09:38,238
Yeah.
1693
01:09:41,410 --> 01:09:45,946
We'll come to
you. 800 821 4000.
1694
01:09:51,253 --> 01:09:53,721
What up, what up? The
moment hip hop got on
1695
01:09:53,723 --> 01:09:58,359
the moment hip hop got on
the radio, it became a huge
1696
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:00,494
Challenge for artists like
luther and all those r&b
1697
01:10:00,496 --> 01:10:03,031
Luther and all those r&b artists
1698
01:10:04,299 --> 01:10:09,303
Who dominated radio. And it
became hip hop's time. So a lot
1699
01:10:09,305 --> 01:10:09,971
Became hip hop's time. So a
lot of artists from luther's
1700
01:10:09,973 --> 01:10:10,737
Of artists from luther's
generation got a little quiet
1701
01:10:10,739 --> 01:10:13,307
Generation got a little quiet
for them, not to the point that
1702
01:10:13,309 --> 01:10:14,675
For them, not to the point that
they weren't successful, but
1703
01:10:14,677 --> 01:10:15,410
They weren't successful, but
not successful in the way that
1704
01:10:15,412 --> 01:10:17,211
Not successful in
the way that they
1705
01:10:17,980 --> 01:10:21,215
Had previously been successful.
Well, I haven't released a
1706
01:10:21,217 --> 01:10:22,950
well, I haven't released a
product in a couple of years
1707
01:10:22,952 --> 01:10:25,052
Product in a couple of years
now, and it'll be interesting
1708
01:10:25,054 --> 01:10:27,588
Now, and it'll be interesting
because I'm about to sign a new
1709
01:10:27,590 --> 01:10:28,222
Because I'm about to sign
a new record deal now.
1710
01:10:28,224 --> 01:10:28,790
Record deal now. Wait
wait wait wait wait
1711
01:10:28,792 --> 01:10:29,624
wait wait wait wait wait
wait wait. You're going to
1712
01:10:29,626 --> 01:10:30,391
Wait wait. You're going to
side with I read this, you're
1713
01:10:30,393 --> 01:10:31,158
Side with I read this, you're
going to side with clive davis,
1714
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,628
Going to side with clive davis,
I am yeah, you are going to
1715
01:10:33,630 --> 01:10:35,563
I am yeah, you are going to
sign with jay records with his
1716
01:10:35,565 --> 01:10:36,030
Sign with jay records
with his new label?
1717
01:10:36,032 --> 01:10:38,232
New label? Absolutely. Yeah.
1718
01:10:38,234 --> 01:10:40,968
Absolutely. Yeah. Clive
davis is so known for
1719
01:10:40,970 --> 01:10:43,604
clive davis is so known for
his expertise as an executive
1720
01:10:43,606 --> 01:10:46,006
His expertise as an executive
producer. Aretha came to clive.
1721
01:10:46,008 --> 01:10:48,409
Producer. Aretha came to clive.
Dionne came to clive. Whitney
1722
01:10:48,411 --> 01:10:50,211
Dionne came to clive. Whitney
started with clive. He's just
1723
01:10:50,213 --> 01:10:53,180
Started with clive. He's just
instrumental in a lot of black
1724
01:10:53,182 --> 01:10:55,683
Instrumental in a lot of black
artists lives. And so if I'm
1725
01:10:55,685 --> 01:10:56,450
Artists lives. And so if I'm
luther vandross and I'm a
1726
01:10:56,452 --> 01:10:58,619
Luther vandross and I'm a
little bit at a turning point.
1727
01:10:58,621 --> 01:11:03,357
Little bit at a turning point.
Clive can seem like. Um, a very
1728
01:11:03,359 --> 01:11:05,793
Clive can seem like. Um,
a very soft place to land.
1729
01:11:05,795 --> 01:11:08,028
Soft place to land. I
was just starting my new
1730
01:11:08,030 --> 01:11:10,531
I was just starting my new
record label, j records, and we
1731
01:11:10,533 --> 01:11:13,534
Record label, j records, and
we agreed to have dinner.
1732
01:11:13,536 --> 01:11:14,913
Agreed to have dinner.
Luther had one mission in
1733
01:11:14,937 --> 01:11:19,640
Mind for that denim. Do you
believe that I could have hit
1734
01:11:19,642 --> 01:11:21,742
Believe that I could have hit
again? Said he, and I said,
1735
01:11:21,744 --> 01:11:23,644
Again? Said he, and I said,
that opens up my question to
1736
01:11:23,646 --> 01:11:26,514
That opens up my question
to you. Will you be open to
1737
01:11:28,851 --> 01:11:33,621
My finding some outside songs
for you? He said, I am totally
1738
01:11:33,623 --> 01:11:36,224
For you? He said, I am
totally open to outside
1739
01:11:37,726 --> 01:11:39,159
Material. He sold
over 20 million
1740
01:11:39,161 --> 01:11:41,062
he sold over 20 million
albums worldwide, and
1741
01:11:41,064 --> 01:11:43,698
Albums worldwide, and
apparently he's definitely not
1742
01:11:43,700 --> 01:11:44,231
Apparently he's
definitely not done.
1743
01:11:44,233 --> 01:11:47,235
Done. Luther had
a voice like no
1744
01:11:47,468 --> 01:11:52,306
Other spectacular, and he
was back to being platinum,
1745
01:11:52,541 --> 01:11:54,508
Making a special appearance.
106 and park, y'all better
1746
01:11:54,510 --> 01:11:58,746
106 and park, y'all better
stand up right now. Give it up
1747
01:11:58,748 --> 01:12:01,282
Stand up right now. Give it
up for the one and only luther
1748
01:12:01,284 --> 01:12:01,749
For the one and only
luther vandross.
1749
01:12:01,751 --> 01:12:03,984
Vandross. All right?
1750
01:12:03,986 --> 01:12:04,919
All right? I'm
happier now than I've
1751
01:12:04,921 --> 01:12:07,655
I'm happier now than I've
ever been, but I expect to one
1752
01:12:07,657 --> 01:12:10,858
Ever been, but I expect to one
day be the happiest I can be.
1753
01:12:10,860 --> 01:12:13,194
Day be the happiest I can be.
I'm still looking for that
1754
01:12:13,196 --> 01:12:15,696
I'm still looking for that
meaningful other person in my
1755
01:12:15,698 --> 01:12:17,932
Meaningful other person in my
life. That is something that
1756
01:12:17,934 --> 01:12:19,100
Life. That is something that
baffles me that I haven't been
1757
01:12:19,102 --> 01:12:19,833
Baffles me that I haven't been
able to find. That seems like
1758
01:12:19,835 --> 01:12:24,105
Able to find. That seems like
such a basic thing. Sometimes I
1759
01:12:24,107 --> 01:12:25,673
Such a basic thing. Sometimes
I think that that fate has to
1760
01:12:25,675 --> 01:12:28,209
Think that that fate has
to work with you, you
1761
01:12:28,443 --> 01:12:32,313
Know, to find certain things. I
mean, if fate wants you to find
1762
01:12:32,315 --> 01:12:35,583
Mean, if fate wants you to
find love, you can hide in the
1763
01:12:35,585 --> 01:12:37,651
Love, you can hide in the
basement of your house with all
1764
01:12:37,653 --> 01:12:40,354
Basement of your house with all
the doors bolted, you know, and
1765
01:12:40,356 --> 01:12:43,124
The doors bolted, you know,
and it'll still happen. Yeah.
1766
01:12:43,126 --> 01:12:44,658
It'll still happen.
Yeah. Let's go.
1767
01:12:44,660 --> 01:12:46,127
Let's go. You've
done a number of
1768
01:12:46,129 --> 01:12:49,029
you've done a number of
great songs over the years.
1769
01:12:49,031 --> 01:12:51,665
Great songs over the years.
Which two were your favorite
1770
01:12:51,833 --> 01:12:57,705
And why? Mhm. Any love
remains my favorite
1771
01:12:57,707 --> 01:12:58,205
any love remains
my favorite song.
1772
01:12:58,207 --> 01:12:58,672
Song. Really? Why?
1773
01:12:59,007 --> 01:13:00,341
Because it is
1774
01:13:00,676 --> 01:13:03,144
Probably the only real
autobiographical song that I
1775
01:13:03,146 --> 01:13:04,044
Autobiographical song that I
wrote. That's exactly the way
1776
01:13:04,046 --> 01:13:07,982
Wrote. That's exactly the way
I was feeling when I wrote the
1777
01:13:07,984 --> 01:13:08,515
I was feeling when
I wrote the song.
1778
01:13:08,517 --> 01:13:11,152
Song. I speak to
myself sometimes
1779
01:13:11,154 --> 01:13:12,554
I speak to myself
sometimes and I
1780
01:13:13,956 --> 01:13:19,292
Say, oh, my. In a lot of ways
you're a lucky guy. And oh,
1781
01:13:20,829 --> 01:13:26,567
Now all you need is a
chance to try. And it
1782
01:13:28,170 --> 01:13:34,170
Love. In my heart there's a
need to shout die and scream
1783
01:13:36,512 --> 01:13:41,682
Need to shout die and scream
and cry and let me out.
1784
01:13:41,883 --> 01:13:46,787
There are all those feelings
that I want to touch any. Love.
1785
01:13:49,724 --> 01:13:51,592
When people ask me, tell me
about luther. I said, just
1786
01:13:51,594 --> 01:13:53,093
About luther. I said, just
listen to any love. Just listen
1787
01:13:53,095 --> 01:13:53,727
Listen to any love. Just
listen to those lyrics.
1788
01:13:53,729 --> 01:13:55,729
To those lyrics. You
1789
01:13:56,164 --> 01:13:58,565
Know, I got everything. I
speak to myself sometimes
1790
01:13:58,567 --> 01:14:01,802
I speak to myself sometimes
and I say, oh, my. In a lot of
1791
01:14:01,804 --> 01:14:04,104
And I say, oh, my. In a lot of
ways you're a lucky guy. Now
1792
01:14:04,106 --> 01:14:04,938
Ways you're a lucky guy. Now
all you need is a chance to try
1793
01:14:04,940 --> 01:14:07,441
All you need is a
chance to try any love
1794
01:14:08,076 --> 01:14:11,279
Right? Any love
1795
01:14:12,180 --> 01:14:15,883
And all everyone needs love.
1796
01:14:16,084 --> 01:14:20,954
No doubt. Any love. Any
1797
01:14:21,255 --> 01:14:25,026
Love. And all
everybody feels alone
1798
01:14:26,595 --> 01:14:29,730
Without any love.
1799
01:14:30,966 --> 01:14:34,235
Any love. And
1800
01:14:34,436 --> 01:14:37,604
I know there's someone waiting
1801
01:14:37,906 --> 01:14:43,906
To enter my. Life. Come
into my life and oh,
1802
01:14:44,013 --> 01:14:48,615
come into my life and oh,
suddenly out of the clear blue
1803
01:14:48,617 --> 01:14:49,083
Suddenly out of
the clear blue sky.
1804
01:14:49,085 --> 01:14:49,616
Sky. Oh yeah.
1805
01:14:49,618 --> 01:14:50,618
Oh yeah. That
1806
01:14:52,087 --> 01:14:55,156
Was that day.
1807
01:14:55,991 --> 01:14:58,059
Jon hamm. Oh, goodness.
And the next line is what?
1808
01:14:58,061 --> 01:14:58,926
And the next line is what?
Because I'm trying to think,
1809
01:14:58,928 --> 01:14:59,827
Because I'm trying to think,
why is it autobiographical?
1810
01:14:59,829 --> 01:15:00,627
Why is it autobiographical?
Lonely tears start to fill
1811
01:15:00,629 --> 01:15:03,263
lonely tears start to fill my
eyes. Oh, I get weak, but I
1812
01:15:03,265 --> 01:15:04,598
My eyes. Oh, I get weak, but
I refuse to cry. I've got to
1813
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:05,466
Refuse to cry. I've got to
keep holding on. You know it
1814
01:15:05,468 --> 01:15:08,102
Keep holding on. You
know it was one of those
1815
01:15:08,270 --> 01:15:11,972
Days. Y'all.
Everyone needs love.
1816
01:15:12,473 --> 01:15:14,408
No doubt. Any love
1817
01:15:15,077 --> 01:15:19,146
Any love. And oh,
I love, love, love
1818
01:15:19,148 --> 01:15:20,013
and oh, I love, love, love
that song. And he loved before
1819
01:15:20,015 --> 01:15:21,048
That song. And he loved before
I worked for luther. But once I
1820
01:15:21,050 --> 01:15:23,117
I worked for luther. But once
I started working for luther, I
1821
01:15:23,119 --> 01:15:25,753
Started working for luther, I
could see that the desperation
1822
01:15:25,755 --> 01:15:28,289
Could see that the desperation
described in that song was
1823
01:15:28,291 --> 01:15:29,656
Described in that song was
real. And I hated that song
1824
01:15:29,658 --> 01:15:32,059
Real. And I hated that song
after that because it always
1825
01:15:32,061 --> 01:15:34,295
After that because it always
reminded me that he wasn't
1826
01:15:34,297 --> 01:15:34,828
Reminded me that he
wasn't seeking love.
1827
01:15:34,830 --> 01:15:37,498
Seeking love. He was
seeking any love.
1828
01:15:37,500 --> 01:15:38,780
He was seeking any love. Is
1829
01:15:41,303 --> 01:15:44,472
There. Any?
1830
01:15:47,042 --> 01:15:50,144
Love?
1831
01:16:03,525 --> 01:16:07,561
That he would say, I feel like
a trick has been played on me.
1832
01:16:07,563 --> 01:16:09,630
A trick has been played on me.
What do you mean? Well, god
1833
01:16:09,632 --> 01:16:11,799
what do you mean? Well, god
has given me everything I asked
1834
01:16:11,801 --> 01:16:14,802
Has given me everything I asked
for except for this one thing
1835
01:16:14,804 --> 01:16:16,684
For except for this one
thing to have one person
1836
01:16:17,239 --> 01:16:19,840
Who loves me. And we would say,
but luther, you know we love
1837
01:16:19,842 --> 01:16:21,141
But luther, you know we love
you. And he said, I know you
1838
01:16:21,143 --> 01:16:22,443
You. And he said, I know you
guys love me. That's not what
1839
01:16:22,445 --> 01:16:26,880
Guys love me. That's not what
I'm talking about. So we never
1840
01:16:26,882 --> 01:16:29,683
I'm talking about. So we never
made that a focal point of our
1841
01:16:29,685 --> 01:16:31,452
Made that a focal point of
our relationship. And we were
1842
01:16:31,454 --> 01:16:32,719
Relationship. And we were
together quite a bit. Our dream
1843
01:16:32,721 --> 01:16:33,654
Together quite a bit. Our dream
for luther was just that he
1844
01:16:33,656 --> 01:16:35,756
For luther was just that he
could be loved and appreciated
1845
01:16:35,758 --> 01:16:37,158
Could be loved and appreciated
for who he was, because he was
1846
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:39,760
For who he was, because he
was a wonderful human being
1847
01:16:40,362 --> 01:16:45,765
His life had some extremely
joyful moments and some really
1848
01:16:45,767 --> 01:16:47,201
Joyful moments and some
really difficult moments.
1849
01:16:47,203 --> 01:16:49,436
Difficult moments. There
was one time, after
1850
01:16:49,438 --> 01:16:51,705
there was one time, after
luther lost all the weight.
1851
01:16:51,707 --> 01:16:52,773
Luther lost all the weight.
There was a rumor that he died
1852
01:16:52,775 --> 01:16:55,376
There was a rumor that he
died or that he had aids or
1853
01:16:55,378 --> 01:16:55,943
Or that he had
aids or something.
1854
01:16:55,945 --> 01:16:56,610
Something. Now,
last week there was
1855
01:16:56,612 --> 01:16:58,111
now, last week there was
last. Last year there were a
1856
01:16:58,113 --> 01:16:59,379
Last. Last year there were a
lot of rumors because you got
1857
01:16:59,381 --> 01:16:59,880
Lot of rumors
because you got thin.
1858
01:16:59,882 --> 01:17:00,380
Thin. Yeah.
1859
01:17:00,382 --> 01:17:01,248
Yeah. You're not
going to ask me
1860
01:17:01,250 --> 01:17:02,016
you're not going to ask me
about that stupid thing?
1861
01:17:02,018 --> 01:17:03,116
About that stupid thing?
No, I'm going to ask you
1862
01:17:03,118 --> 01:17:05,486
no, I'm going to ask you
what diet you went on.
1863
01:17:05,488 --> 01:17:06,086
What diet you went
on. So irresponsibly.
1864
01:17:06,088 --> 01:17:07,188
So irresponsibly.
I'm not going to even
1865
01:17:07,190 --> 01:17:07,721
I'm not going to
even mention it.
1866
01:17:07,723 --> 01:17:08,389
Mention it. There
was a report out, a
1867
01:17:08,391 --> 01:17:10,724
there was a report out, a
rumor out, that luther was
1868
01:17:10,726 --> 01:17:11,192
Rumor out, that luther was dead.
1869
01:17:11,194 --> 01:17:12,292
Dead. Oh, yeah?
1870
01:17:12,294 --> 01:17:14,094
Oh, yeah? Did you
guys see that?
1871
01:17:14,096 --> 01:17:15,496
Did you guys see that?
Yeah, I heard it. Yeah.
1872
01:17:15,498 --> 01:17:16,930
Yeah, I heard it. Yeah.
There was. So finally, it
1873
01:17:16,932 --> 01:17:19,132
there was. So finally, it
just made me realize you have
1874
01:17:19,134 --> 01:17:21,635
Just made me realize you
have to just. I copped to
1875
01:17:22,737 --> 01:17:24,071
It. I died, and
can you imagine?
1876
01:17:24,073 --> 01:17:24,805
Imagine? He said,
man, I'm sitting
1877
01:17:24,807 --> 01:17:26,607
he said, man, I'm sitting
here in the living room
1878
01:17:26,609 --> 01:17:29,009
Here in the living room
watching tv on Sunday, and the
1879
01:17:29,011 --> 01:17:32,613
Watching tv on Sunday, and the
pastor is saying a prayer for
1880
01:17:32,615 --> 01:17:35,315
Pastor is saying a prayer for
me because I just passed. He
1881
01:17:35,317 --> 01:17:37,784
Me because I just passed. He
went, no, I'm still here. Can
1882
01:17:37,786 --> 01:17:39,152
Went, no, I'm still here. Can
you imagine? I mean, this is
1883
01:17:39,154 --> 01:17:40,754
You imagine? I mean, this is
like I tell a lot of you young
1884
01:17:40,756 --> 01:17:43,290
Like I tell a lot of you young
people, fame and fortune,
1885
01:17:43,292 --> 01:17:45,426
People, fame and fortune,
fortunes. Cool. Fame is not
1886
01:17:45,428 --> 01:17:48,062
Fortunes. Cool. Fame
is not always so
1887
01:17:48,597 --> 01:17:51,732
Cool.
1888
01:17:55,770 --> 01:18:01,770
Knowing love the way
I do. I can say for
1889
01:18:04,513 --> 01:18:07,681
Certain that it's
true. There's a
1890
01:18:09,951 --> 01:18:11,685
Chance for me and you.
Oh, what do you say? You
1891
01:18:11,687 --> 01:18:12,753
oh, what do you say? You
spent more time being in love
1892
01:18:12,755 --> 01:18:15,256
Spent more time being in
love or like, waiting for
1893
01:18:15,690 --> 01:18:18,092
Love? Waiting,
waiting. And the
1894
01:18:18,094 --> 01:18:19,260
waiting, waiting. And the
time that was spent being in
1895
01:18:19,262 --> 01:18:22,096
Time that was spent being
in love was largely,
1896
01:18:22,098 --> 01:18:24,865
Love was largely,
unfortunately. Always
1897
01:18:24,867 --> 01:18:25,599
Unfortunately. Always
unrequited. Unreciprocated.
1898
01:18:25,601 --> 01:18:26,300
Unrequited. Unreciprocated.
Whatever the word is, you know
1899
01:18:26,302 --> 01:18:28,268
Whatever the word is, you
know what I'm saying? Now, I
1900
01:18:28,270 --> 01:18:30,837
What I'm saying?
Now, I remember
1901
01:18:31,005 --> 01:18:36,043
Spending all my time
on a dream that kept
1902
01:18:36,344 --> 01:18:39,480
Me wishing that you could
1903
01:18:39,681 --> 01:18:42,683
Be. Mine.
1904
01:18:42,884 --> 01:18:47,488
Yeah, I don't consider myself
unlovable by any stretch, but
1905
01:18:47,490 --> 01:18:50,491
Unlovable by any stretch,
but no, it has. That had not
1906
01:18:50,493 --> 01:18:53,060
No, it has. That had not
happened, you know, so I I'm
1907
01:18:53,062 --> 01:18:55,662
Happened, you know, so I I'm
still waiting for me to get the
1908
01:18:55,664 --> 01:18:58,198
Still waiting for me
to get the love I've
1909
01:18:58,433 --> 01:19:01,635
Been missing. Sometimes
love takes a long time.
1910
01:19:01,637 --> 01:19:03,036
Takes a long time.
But wait for love.
1911
01:19:03,038 --> 01:19:07,341
But wait for love. And
you're gonna get it up
1912
01:19:07,343 --> 01:19:08,642
and you're gonna get it up
chance to love, wait for love.
1913
01:19:08,644 --> 01:19:11,211
Chance to love, wait for
love. Wait for love. And
1914
01:19:12,547 --> 01:19:18,118
You. You. Yeah, I love.
Takes. It always made me
1915
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:19,686
takes. It always made me
sad. Because I always wanted
1916
01:19:19,688 --> 01:19:21,688
Sad. Because I always wanted
luther to find whatever would
1917
01:19:21,690 --> 01:19:23,991
Luther to find whatever
would fulfill his heart.
1918
01:19:23,993 --> 01:19:26,660
Fulfill his heart. There's
something inside of
1919
01:19:26,861 --> 01:19:29,296
Luther that he just. I think,
in some ways, felt like he
1920
01:19:29,298 --> 01:19:31,832
In some ways, felt like
he couldn't share all of
1921
01:19:32,767 --> 01:19:35,936
Himself.
1922
01:19:36,638 --> 01:19:40,174
I think that because of the
stigma back then, if he was
1923
01:19:40,176 --> 01:19:42,843
Stigma back then, if he was
gay, the thought of, quote
1924
01:19:42,845 --> 01:19:44,478
Gay, the thought of, quote
coming out that he couldn't
1925
01:19:44,480 --> 01:19:47,548
Coming out that he couldn't
bear it, he'd rather be alone
1926
01:19:48,950 --> 01:19:52,152
Than have that stigma attached.
1927
01:19:55,390 --> 01:19:58,892
One of the things that
really me off is there were
1928
01:19:58,894 --> 01:20:01,595
Really me off is there were
people who have talked about
1929
01:20:01,597 --> 01:20:04,164
People who have talked about
his personal life who, you
1930
01:20:04,166 --> 01:20:06,667
His personal life who,
you know, he considered
1931
01:20:08,503 --> 01:20:11,538
Friends. Did he
struggle with the
1932
01:20:11,540 --> 01:20:13,841
did he struggle with the
idea of coming out publicly?
1933
01:20:13,843 --> 01:20:15,108
Idea of coming out publicly?
Was that was that something
1934
01:20:15,110 --> 01:20:15,976
Was that was that something
that you talked about at all?
1935
01:20:15,978 --> 01:20:17,110
That you talked about at
all? We talked about it.
1936
01:20:17,112 --> 01:20:18,579
We talked about it. It
was basically he did not
1937
01:20:18,581 --> 01:20:21,248
it was basically he did not
want his mother to be, although
1938
01:20:21,250 --> 01:20:23,784
Want his mother to be, although
she might have known, but he
1939
01:20:23,786 --> 01:20:24,785
She might have known, but he
wasn't going to come out and
1940
01:20:24,787 --> 01:20:26,387
Wasn't going to come out and
say this to the world. And he
1941
01:20:26,389 --> 01:20:28,088
Say this to the world. And he
had a lot of lady fans, and he
1942
01:20:28,090 --> 01:20:30,190
Had a lot of lady fans, and
he told me that he just didn't
1943
01:20:30,192 --> 01:20:32,760
Told me that he just
didn't want to upset the
1944
01:20:34,329 --> 01:20:38,598
World. I don't
really know what I
1945
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:41,001
I don't really know what I
want to say. I'm going to
1946
01:20:41,003 --> 01:20:43,603
Want to say. I'm going
to always respect
1947
01:20:44,906 --> 01:20:48,508
Whatever position he
took. Questions about my
1948
01:20:48,510 --> 01:20:51,144
questions about my
sexuality. Well, I suppose
1949
01:20:51,579 --> 01:20:54,948
Just always be questions. Let
me tell you who I owe answers
1950
01:20:54,950 --> 01:20:57,217
Me tell you who I owe answers
to. What I owe you is my music,
1951
01:20:57,219 --> 01:21:01,588
To. What I owe you is my music,
my talent, my best effort. You
1952
01:21:01,590 --> 01:21:04,124
My talent, my best effort.
You know, that's all. I will
1953
01:21:04,325 --> 01:21:09,529
Neither deny or confirm that
any such rumors about personal
1954
01:21:09,531 --> 01:21:12,032
Any such rumors about personal
things like that are true or
1955
01:21:12,034 --> 01:21:14,167
Things like that are true
or untrue. I won't give the
1956
01:21:14,169 --> 01:21:16,437
Untrue. I won't give the
satisfaction of a denial,
1957
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:18,272
Satisfaction of a denial,
because that is a submission of
1958
01:21:18,274 --> 01:21:19,172
Because that is a submission of
sorts. I wouldn't even address
1959
01:21:19,174 --> 01:21:21,808
Sorts. I wouldn't even address
it. I would just say, mind your
1960
01:21:21,810 --> 01:21:24,611
It. I would just say, mind
your own business. That's my
1961
01:21:24,613 --> 01:21:27,147
Own business. That's
my response to that.
1962
01:21:29,050 --> 01:21:32,052
You seem to be at a weight
that you're comfortable with.
1963
01:21:32,054 --> 01:21:33,386
That you're comfortable with.
How did you lose it? And are
1964
01:21:33,388 --> 01:21:34,288
how did you lose it? And are
you feeling better these days
1965
01:21:34,290 --> 01:21:36,189
You feeling better these days
than you have in a long time?
1966
01:21:36,191 --> 01:21:37,057
Than you have in a long time?
I am feeling better. I'm
1967
01:21:37,059 --> 01:21:39,025
I am feeling better. I'm
somewhere in the middle right
1968
01:21:39,027 --> 01:21:40,461
Somewhere in the middle right
now, but I'm feeling better
1969
01:21:40,463 --> 01:21:42,195
Now, but I'm feeling better
than I than I do when I'm
1970
01:21:42,197 --> 01:21:44,498
Than I than I do when I'm
really obese. I lost a 120
1971
01:21:44,500 --> 01:21:47,033
Really obese. I lost a 120
pounds put on a some fraction
1972
01:21:47,035 --> 01:21:49,870
Pounds put on a some fraction
of that. I'm not giving any
1973
01:21:49,872 --> 01:21:50,370
Of that. I'm not
giving any specifics.
1974
01:21:50,372 --> 01:21:51,071
Specifics. You look
great at whatever
1975
01:21:51,073 --> 01:21:52,072
you look great at whatever
weight you're currently at.
1976
01:21:52,074 --> 01:21:54,675
Weight you're currently at.
Luther vandross, thank you so
1977
01:21:55,043 --> 01:21:57,210
Much for joining us. So
the whole thing of being
1978
01:21:57,212 --> 01:21:58,411
so the whole thing of being
fat and being thin and being
1979
01:21:58,413 --> 01:21:59,780
Fat and being thin and being
fat and being thin, we always
1980
01:21:59,782 --> 01:22:01,314
Fat and being thin, we always
told him, dude, you can't keep
1981
01:22:01,316 --> 01:22:02,949
Told him, dude, you can't keep
this up. Can't you just find
1982
01:22:02,951 --> 01:22:05,085
This up. Can't you just find
out where your basic? Because
1983
01:22:05,087 --> 01:22:06,753
Out where your basic? Because
everybody normalizes at a
1984
01:22:06,755 --> 01:22:09,456
Everybody normalizes at a
certain place. But if you have
1985
01:22:09,458 --> 01:22:11,325
Certain place. But if you have
diabetes, you don't know what
1986
01:22:11,327 --> 01:22:12,693
Diabetes, you don't know what
anybody's negotiating with at
1987
01:22:12,695 --> 01:22:17,464
Anybody's negotiating with at
any one time. And so we must
1988
01:22:17,466 --> 01:22:20,000
Any one time. And so we must
not forget that above all
1989
01:22:20,234 --> 01:22:24,505
Things, luther was a diabetic.
You know, we all worried
1990
01:22:24,507 --> 01:22:26,807
you know, we all worried
about it because it's how many
1991
01:22:26,809 --> 01:22:28,408
About it because it's how many
times can your body take that?
1992
01:22:28,410 --> 01:22:29,543
Times can your body take that?
And he says, robin, you don't
1993
01:22:29,545 --> 01:22:32,112
And he says, robin, you don't
have the same problem I have.
1994
01:22:32,114 --> 01:22:34,080
Have the same problem I have.
He said, I obsess about food.
1995
01:22:34,082 --> 01:22:35,415
He said, I obsess about food.
He said, I'm thinking about
1996
01:22:35,417 --> 01:22:37,684
He said, I'm thinking about
food from the time I wake up
1997
01:22:37,686 --> 01:22:40,821
Food from the time I wake up
until the time I go to sleep.
1998
01:22:40,823 --> 01:22:43,256
Until the time I go to sleep.
And I just said, whoa I read in
1999
01:22:43,258 --> 01:22:45,292
And I just said, whoa I read
in a magazine once, this is the
2000
01:22:45,294 --> 01:22:46,092
A magazine once, this is the
weirdest question I'm sure
2001
01:22:46,094 --> 01:22:47,394
Weirdest question I'm sure
you've ever heard, but I read
2002
01:22:47,396 --> 01:22:48,729
You've ever heard, but I
read in a magazine one of the
2003
01:22:48,731 --> 01:22:50,831
In a magazine one of the
strangest things you had ever
2004
01:22:50,833 --> 01:22:51,532
Strangest things you had ever
eaten was a hamburger between
2005
01:22:51,534 --> 01:22:52,298
Eaten was a hamburger between
two glazed donuts because you
2006
01:22:52,300 --> 01:22:53,466
Two glazed donuts because you
couldn't find any hamburger
2007
01:22:53,468 --> 01:22:53,934
Couldn't find any
hamburger rolls.
2008
01:22:53,936 --> 01:22:54,768
Rolls. Is that a
true story? And
2009
01:22:54,770 --> 01:22:57,137
is that a true story? And how
2010
01:22:57,338 --> 01:22:59,940
Disgusting was that?
Disgusting. Oh no. No, that
2011
01:22:59,942 --> 01:23:00,473
disgusting. Oh no.
No, that was good.
2012
01:23:00,475 --> 01:23:02,810
Was good. You take
somebody who was as
2013
01:23:02,812 --> 01:23:07,347
you take somebody who was
as huge a talent and as
2014
01:23:07,349 --> 01:23:08,081
Huge a talent and as
accomplished as he was, and
2015
01:23:08,083 --> 01:23:10,717
Accomplished as he was, and
they just sort of, like, shrunk
2016
01:23:10,719 --> 01:23:11,918
They just sort of, like,
shrunk him down to that, to a
2017
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:14,421
Him down to that, to
a soundbite about his
2018
01:23:14,856 --> 01:23:18,425
Weight. It's like it
absolutely irritated him, as it
2019
01:23:18,427 --> 01:23:19,059
Absolutely irritated
him, as it should have.
2020
01:23:19,061 --> 01:23:21,361
Should have. A lot
of people make a big
2021
01:23:21,363 --> 01:23:22,563
a lot of people make a big
deal out of your weight. Does
2022
01:23:22,565 --> 01:23:24,931
Deal out of your weight.
Does it bother you?
2023
01:23:24,933 --> 01:23:26,033
It bother you? Yeah,
it's bothersome right
2024
01:23:26,035 --> 01:23:27,267
yeah, it's bothersome right
now. Now that you're asking
2025
01:23:27,269 --> 01:23:28,101
Now. Now that you're asking
me, it's bothersome because I
2026
01:23:28,103 --> 01:23:29,736
Me, it's bothersome because I
don't enjoy talking about it a
2027
01:23:29,738 --> 01:23:30,904
Don't enjoy talking about it
a lot. You know, my record
2028
01:23:30,906 --> 01:23:32,005
Lot. You know, my record
company, j records, used to
2029
01:23:32,007 --> 01:23:32,839
Company, j records, used to
always insist, oh, you got it.
2030
01:23:32,841 --> 01:23:33,640
Always insist, oh, you got it.
Because I used to say, I don't
2031
01:23:33,642 --> 01:23:35,141
Because I used to say, I don't
want to talk about that. And I
2032
01:23:35,143 --> 01:23:36,309
Want to talk about that. And I
don't really want to speak on
2033
01:23:36,311 --> 01:23:38,111
Don't really want to speak
on that. You know, that's a
2034
01:23:38,113 --> 01:23:40,714
That. You know, that's a
personal struggle. And and they
2035
01:23:40,716 --> 01:23:41,448
Personal struggle. And and they
would always say, yeah, but it
2036
01:23:41,450 --> 01:23:42,582
Would always say, yeah, but
it it's like a human interest
2037
01:23:42,584 --> 01:23:43,583
It's like a human interest
story and everybody wants to
2038
01:23:43,585 --> 01:23:44,251
Story and everybody wants to
talk about it. And I said,
2039
01:23:44,253 --> 01:23:45,151
Talk about it. And I said,
yeah, but what if I talk about
2040
01:23:45,153 --> 01:23:46,787
Yeah, but what if I talk about
it and gain any of it back. You
2041
01:23:46,789 --> 01:23:48,889
It and gain any of it back. You
know, then I have to carry that
2042
01:23:48,891 --> 01:23:51,458
Know, then I have to carry
that type of paranoia
2043
01:23:53,895 --> 01:23:56,396
His weight was like
this huge story.
2044
01:23:56,398 --> 01:23:57,130
Story. I mean,
it broke my heart
2045
01:23:57,132 --> 01:23:59,399
I mean, it broke my heart
when, you know, when he finally
2046
01:23:59,401 --> 01:24:01,401
When, you know, when he finally
managed his weight, when he was
2047
01:24:01,403 --> 01:24:04,071
Managed his weight, when he was
maintaining his weight, they
2048
01:24:04,073 --> 01:24:05,171
Maintaining his weight, they
decided to promote the album.
2049
01:24:05,173 --> 01:24:06,706
Decided to promote the album.
It would all be about his
2050
01:24:06,708 --> 01:24:08,541
It would all be about his
weight loss story. It was too
2051
01:24:08,543 --> 01:24:09,943
Weight loss story. It was
too much and it broke and he
2052
01:24:09,945 --> 01:24:11,378
Much and it broke and he
started to gain the weight
2053
01:24:11,380 --> 01:24:13,046
Started to gain the weight
back. And it was so sad that
2054
01:24:13,048 --> 01:24:17,951
Back. And it was so sad that
there was such a fixation about
2055
01:24:18,453 --> 01:24:21,621
His weight. That
was heartbreaking.
2056
01:24:22,490 --> 01:24:26,026
Luther, big luther though,
big luther, not little luther.
2057
01:24:26,028 --> 01:24:27,193
Big luther, not little
luther. Oh, I don't do little
2058
01:24:27,195 --> 01:24:27,661
oh, I don't do little luther.
2059
01:24:27,663 --> 01:24:29,062
Luther. I don't
do little luther,
2060
01:24:29,064 --> 01:24:31,265
I don't do little
luther, I, like big curl.
2061
01:24:31,267 --> 01:24:32,633
I, like big curl. Ain't
quite right, luther.
2062
01:24:32,635 --> 01:24:35,202
Ain't quite right, luther.
That's the one I like.
2063
01:24:36,271 --> 01:24:37,804
That's. Here's a man who was
2064
01:24:37,806 --> 01:24:38,738
here's a man who was
probably like, I need to get
2065
01:24:38,740 --> 01:24:40,540
Probably like, I need to get
healthy. But it's tough because
2066
01:24:40,542 --> 01:24:43,243
Healthy. But it's tough because
when we see you and we love
2067
01:24:43,245 --> 01:24:44,844
When we see you and we love
you, we love you for what we
2068
01:24:44,846 --> 01:24:45,979
You, we love you for what we
see and love, right then, if
2069
01:24:45,981 --> 01:24:47,648
See and love, right then, if
something changes, you know how
2070
01:24:47,650 --> 01:24:49,249
Something changes, you know how
black people, you lose weight,
2071
01:24:49,251 --> 01:24:50,684
Black people, you lose weight,
man. You okay? You know black
2072
01:24:50,686 --> 01:24:51,851
Man. You okay? You know black
people. You can't lose no
2073
01:24:51,853 --> 01:24:54,454
People. You can't lose no
weight. You okay? You're sick.
2074
01:24:54,456 --> 01:24:55,489
Weight. You okay? You're sick.
If we were to be able to talk
2075
01:24:55,491 --> 01:24:58,058
If we were to be able to talk
to luther at that time, as
2076
01:24:58,060 --> 01:24:59,059
To luther at that time, as
fans, we'd be able to say
2077
01:24:59,061 --> 01:25:01,662
Fans, we'd be able to say
whatever weight you are, we
2078
01:25:01,664 --> 01:25:04,665
Whatever weight you are, we
don't care. We just. We just
2079
01:25:04,667 --> 01:25:07,167
Don't care. We just.
We just love you.
2080
01:25:09,269 --> 01:25:14,407
We worried about him because
when luther was under stress is
2081
01:25:14,409 --> 01:25:16,476
When luther was under stress is
when he would eat. I'm supposed
2082
01:25:16,478 --> 01:25:17,477
When he would eat. I'm supposed
to ignore this camera, but I'm
2083
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:19,012
To ignore this camera, but I'm
going to wait, wait, wait. He
2084
01:25:19,014 --> 01:25:20,580
Going to wait, wait, wait.
He was back and forth at the
2085
01:25:20,582 --> 01:25:23,016
Was back and forth at the
studio 24 over seven. He was
2086
01:25:23,018 --> 01:25:25,585
Studio 24 over seven.
He was working on
2087
01:25:25,786 --> 01:25:29,656
That record like crazy just
to get it done, to get it out.
2088
01:25:29,658 --> 01:25:30,824
Get it done, to get it out.
He called me in the middle
2089
01:25:30,826 --> 01:25:32,192
he called me in the middle of
the night one night, like at
2090
01:25:32,194 --> 01:25:33,026
Of the night one night, like
at 3:00 in the morning. He's.
2091
01:25:33,028 --> 01:25:34,328
3:00 in the morning. He's.
He's in the studio at hit
2092
01:25:34,330 --> 01:25:35,329
He's in the studio at hit
factory when it was on 54th
2093
01:25:35,331 --> 01:25:37,097
Factory when it was on
54th street. He says, come
2094
01:25:37,099 --> 01:25:37,931
Street. He says, come
downstairs, I want you to take
2095
01:25:37,933 --> 01:25:39,866
Downstairs, I want you to take
a ride with me. I said, okay,
2096
01:25:39,868 --> 01:25:40,968
A ride with me. I said, okay,
fine, get in the car. He says,
2097
01:25:40,970 --> 01:25:41,801
Fine, get in the car. He says,
I got this new song I want to
2098
01:25:41,803 --> 01:25:43,870
I got this new song
I want to play for
2099
01:25:45,039 --> 01:25:50,276
You. At the end of it, my face
is wet. I said, what is that?
2100
01:25:50,278 --> 01:25:51,578
Is wet. I said, what is that?
He said, this is going to be my
2101
01:25:51,580 --> 01:25:52,345
He said, this is going to be
my career song. He said, I'm
2102
01:25:52,347 --> 01:25:53,045
Career song. He said, I'm
probably going to have a
2103
01:25:53,047 --> 01:25:55,182
Probably going to have a
struggle with the rest of the
2104
01:25:55,184 --> 01:25:57,217
Struggle with the rest of the
record company, he said. But
2105
01:25:57,219 --> 01:25:59,052
Record company, he said.
But this is my career song.
2106
01:25:59,054 --> 01:26:01,621
This is my career
song. Back when I was a
2107
01:26:04,158 --> 01:26:07,260
Child. Before
2108
01:26:07,996 --> 01:26:13,996
Life removed all the innocence.
My father would lift me. High.
2109
01:26:16,739 --> 01:26:19,172
My father would lift me. High.
And dance with my mother and
2110
01:26:19,174 --> 01:26:24,745
And dance with my mother and
me. And then spin me around
2111
01:26:26,748 --> 01:26:31,351
Till I fell asleep. Then up the
stairs he would carry me. And
2112
01:26:33,888 --> 01:26:37,057
I knew for sure I
2113
01:26:37,458 --> 01:26:43,458
Was. Loved. If I could.
When he played it I was in
2114
01:26:44,033 --> 01:26:44,564
when he played it I was in awe.
2115
01:26:44,566 --> 01:26:46,332
Awe. Because how could he
2116
01:26:46,334 --> 01:26:47,033
because how could he
remember these things?
2117
01:26:47,035 --> 01:26:47,734
Remember these things?
You know, he said, I wrote
2118
01:26:47,736 --> 01:26:50,570
you know, he said, I wrote
this, listen. And then when I
2119
01:26:50,572 --> 01:26:53,339
This, listen. And then when I
heard it as a saying, it just
2120
01:26:53,341 --> 01:26:59,341
Heard it as a saying, it just
it grabbed me and how I'd love,
2121
01:26:59,381 --> 01:26:59,579
It grabbed me and
how I'd love, love.
2122
01:27:00,081 --> 01:27:01,982
Love to dance
2123
01:27:02,450 --> 01:27:03,950
With my father again.
Him doing dance with my
2124
01:27:03,952 --> 01:27:06,786
him doing dance with my
father. It's almost like he put
2125
01:27:06,788 --> 01:27:07,988
Father. It's almost like he put
his own flag in the sand. It's
2126
01:27:07,990 --> 01:27:09,122
His own flag in the sand.
It's like, I've got this song,
2127
01:27:09,124 --> 01:27:10,657
Like, I've got this song,
y'all are going to put this
2128
01:27:10,659 --> 01:27:11,925
Y'all are going to put this
out. And they did. And he was
2129
01:27:11,927 --> 01:27:14,428
Out. And they did. And he
was right. And I'd hear how
2130
01:27:14,595 --> 01:27:16,729
My mother cried for him. They
could have chose something else
2131
01:27:16,731 --> 01:27:17,664
Could have chose something else
in the story, might have been
2132
01:27:17,666 --> 01:27:18,832
In the story, might have been
different. He might have never
2133
01:27:18,834 --> 01:27:19,966
Different. He might have never
had a number one record. We
2134
01:27:19,968 --> 01:27:21,334
Had a number one record. We
might not have ever heard this
2135
01:27:21,336 --> 01:27:23,703
Might not have ever heard
this emotion that speaks to
2136
01:27:23,705 --> 01:27:26,273
Emotion that speaks to
everyone. Every night I fall
2137
01:27:26,275 --> 01:27:29,075
Everyone. Every night I fall
asleep and this is all I ever.
2138
01:27:29,610 --> 01:27:35,610
Dream I just was crying,
man, because, you
2139
01:27:35,817 --> 01:27:37,784
Know, he wrote it from
such an honest place.
2140
01:27:37,786 --> 01:27:40,153
Honest place. And he
had been. Refining
2141
01:27:40,155 --> 01:27:42,355
and he had been. Refining
this, this song in his head
2142
01:28:00,941 --> 01:28:04,678
Go to the new apartment where
luther was, and we were still
2143
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:05,211
Luther was, and we
were still renovating.
2144
01:28:05,213 --> 01:28:05,945
Renovating. I rang
the doorbell and
2145
01:28:05,947 --> 01:28:07,614
I rang the doorbell and
luther didn't pick up, which
2146
01:28:07,616 --> 01:28:09,382
Luther didn't pick up, which
was really odd. He was always
2147
01:28:09,384 --> 01:28:13,987
Was really odd. He was always
on time. So I had to go see
2148
01:28:13,989 --> 01:28:15,788
On time. So I had to go see
what was going on, and we had
2149
01:28:15,790 --> 01:28:17,257
What was going on, and we had
just replaced the doors and
2150
01:28:17,259 --> 01:28:19,592
Just replaced the doors and
they were like these beautiful
2151
01:28:19,594 --> 01:28:21,061
They were like these beautiful
mahogany doors. And so we broke
2152
01:28:21,063 --> 01:28:22,962
Mahogany doors. And so we
broke down the door and I was
2153
01:28:22,964 --> 01:28:24,597
Down the door and I was
screaming as we were breaking
2154
01:28:24,599 --> 01:28:25,866
Screaming as we were breaking
down the door. I'm so sorry,
2155
01:28:25,868 --> 01:28:27,400
Down the door. I'm so sorry,
luther. I know I'm out of
2156
01:28:27,402 --> 01:28:28,835
Luther. I know I'm out of
control. I'm sorry to break
2157
01:28:28,837 --> 01:28:29,635
Control. I'm sorry to break
down the door. I know you just
2158
01:28:29,637 --> 01:28:30,403
Down the door. I know you just
had it done. You can take it
2159
01:28:30,405 --> 01:28:30,904
Had it done. You can take
it out of my paycheck, but I
2160
01:28:30,906 --> 01:28:32,272
Out of my paycheck, but I
don't know what's going on,
2161
01:28:32,274 --> 01:28:33,439
Don't know what's going on,
and you're not answering. And
2162
01:28:33,441 --> 01:28:35,608
And you're not answering. And
I just need to see what's going
2163
01:28:35,610 --> 01:28:38,111
I just need to see
what's going on.
2164
01:28:38,312 --> 01:28:43,083
And it was quiet, so I walked
around and I walked down the
2165
01:28:43,085 --> 01:28:44,851
Around and I walked down the
hallway, and I looked to the
2166
01:28:44,853 --> 01:28:47,420
Hallway, and I looked
to the right, to
2167
01:28:48,756 --> 01:28:51,858
The bedroom.
2168
01:28:53,460 --> 01:28:56,462
Seoul singer luther vandross
is still hospitalized in
2169
01:28:56,464 --> 01:28:57,864
Is still hospitalized in
intensive care in a new york
2170
01:28:57,866 --> 01:28:59,533
Intensive care in a new york
city hospital after r&b legend
2171
01:28:59,535 --> 01:29:00,833
City hospital after r&b legend
luther vandross suffered a
2172
01:29:00,835 --> 01:29:03,269
Luther vandross suffered a
massive stroke that left him
2173
01:29:03,271 --> 01:29:04,003
Massive stroke that left
him hospitalized in critical
2174
01:29:04,005 --> 01:29:04,404
Hospitalized in
critical condition.
2175
01:29:04,406 --> 01:29:05,004
Condition. Those
were some difficult
2176
01:29:05,006 --> 01:29:06,472
those were some difficult
times to see. The the strongest
2177
01:29:06,474 --> 01:29:10,343
Times to see. The the strongest
person you knew to be knocked
2178
01:29:10,345 --> 01:29:13,213
Person you knew to be knocked
to his knees. You know, in a
2179
01:29:13,215 --> 01:29:15,481
To his knees. You know, in
a health situation, the last
2180
01:29:15,483 --> 01:29:17,850
Health situation, the last
thing that anybody thought,
2181
01:29:17,852 --> 01:29:20,887
Thing that anybody thought,
including him, is that that
2182
01:29:20,889 --> 01:29:21,387
Including him, is that
that would happen.
2183
01:29:21,655 --> 01:29:24,057
How devastatingly ironic is it
that that song is number one
2184
01:29:24,059 --> 01:29:26,659
It that that song is number
one on the pop charts? And he
2185
01:29:26,661 --> 01:29:27,527
On the pop charts? And he
can't even appreciate it
2186
01:29:27,529 --> 01:29:29,862
Can't even appreciate it
because he was in and out of
2187
01:29:29,864 --> 01:29:34,334
Because he was in and out of
that coma? You know, and the
2188
01:29:37,872 --> 01:29:40,540
Grammy goes to.
Richard marx and luther
2189
01:29:40,542 --> 01:29:42,542
richard marx and luther
vandross for dance with my
2190
01:29:42,544 --> 01:29:45,145
Vandross for dance
with my father, luther
2191
01:29:45,813 --> 01:29:50,784
Vandross. I have had
the honor for the
2192
01:29:50,786 --> 01:29:53,319
I have had the honor for the
last 13 years to write songs
2193
01:29:53,321 --> 01:29:55,154
Last 13 years to write songs
with luther, my friend, who I
2194
01:29:55,156 --> 01:29:56,489
With luther, my friend, who I
love, who I wish was here with
2195
01:29:56,491 --> 01:29:57,724
Love, who I wish was here with
me because he'd be whispering
2196
01:29:57,726 --> 01:30:00,827
Me because he'd be whispering
to me about what everybody's
2197
01:30:00,829 --> 01:30:02,269
To me about what
everybody's wearing.
2198
01:30:02,830 --> 01:30:06,699
You all know how ridiculously
talented he is, but some of you
2199
01:30:06,701 --> 01:30:08,501
Talented he is, but some of you
don't know that. He's also one
2200
01:30:08,503 --> 01:30:10,971
Don't know that. He's also
one of the funniest, kindest,
2201
01:30:10,973 --> 01:30:11,771
Of the funniest, kindest,
brightest people on the face of
2202
01:30:11,773 --> 01:30:13,939
Brightest people on the face of
the earth. I thank the academy
2203
01:30:13,941 --> 01:30:16,309
The earth. I thank the academy
so much for honoring not only
2204
01:30:16,311 --> 01:30:18,177
So much for honoring not only
our song dance with my father,
2205
01:30:18,179 --> 01:30:18,812
Our song dance with my father,
but luther himself tonight,
2206
01:30:18,814 --> 01:30:19,579
But luther himself tonight,
because no one is more
2207
01:30:19,581 --> 01:30:22,082
Because no one is more deserving
2208
01:30:27,555 --> 01:30:31,190
I went right from the grammys
to see him because I wanted to
2209
01:30:31,192 --> 01:30:32,792
To see him because I wanted to
celebrate with him. But, you
2210
01:30:32,794 --> 01:30:34,294
Celebrate with him. But, you
know, obviously he was in bad
2211
01:30:34,296 --> 01:30:37,530
Know, obviously he was in
bad shape, but we he did his
2212
01:30:37,532 --> 01:30:38,965
Shape, but we he did his
exercises and he did this
2213
01:30:38,967 --> 01:30:40,000
Exercises and he did this
therapy. And then we ended up
2214
01:30:40,002 --> 01:30:43,002
Therapy. And then we ended up
coming back to his room and and
2215
01:30:43,004 --> 01:30:45,171
Coming back to his room and and
we did have a pretty amazing
2216
01:30:45,173 --> 01:30:47,774
We did have a pretty
amazing conversation about
2217
01:30:49,877 --> 01:30:53,613
Winning that grammy.
2218
01:30:53,814 --> 01:30:57,784
I said, luther, it's.
Everything that we could have
2219
01:30:57,786 --> 01:31:00,353
Everything that we
could have hoped
2220
01:31:00,755 --> 01:31:06,660
For. I mean, it is everybody's
favorite song. Favorite record.
2221
01:31:06,662 --> 01:31:09,195
Favorite song. Favorite
record. We're going platinum
2222
01:31:10,131 --> 01:31:16,131
And greater, and smile came on
his face. He said, I love it
2223
01:31:17,272 --> 01:31:20,173
His face. He said, I love it
the doctors were shocked. I
2224
01:31:20,175 --> 01:31:24,344
The doctors were shocked. I
mean, he understood every word
2225
01:31:24,346 --> 01:31:28,848
Mean, he understood every word
that I was saying it was such a
2226
01:31:28,850 --> 01:31:31,551
That I was saying it was such a
wonderful sign. At the time of
2227
01:31:31,553 --> 01:31:37,090
Wonderful sign. At the time
of recovery was a possibility.
2228
01:31:41,062 --> 01:31:43,596
I want to know what you
2229
01:31:43,797 --> 01:31:48,267
Want to say to your many,
many, many, many fans.
2230
01:31:48,269 --> 01:31:52,972
Many, many fans. I
want to thank them for
2231
01:31:52,974 --> 01:31:55,875
I want to thank them for
even caring as it was a
2232
01:31:55,877 --> 01:31:56,642
Even caring as it was a
wonderful feeling every day.
2233
01:31:56,644 --> 01:31:56,876
Wonderful feeling
every day. Do you
2234
01:31:57,078 --> 01:32:02,081
Say, I want to get a little
better at something well, right
2235
01:32:02,083 --> 01:32:02,515
Better at something
well, right now what?
2236
01:32:02,517 --> 01:32:05,919
Now what? I want
to get better at
2237
01:32:07,054 --> 01:32:13,054
Is, um. Living with this,
living with these thoughts,
2238
01:32:13,094 --> 01:32:15,461
Living with these thoughts,
living with this, you know,
2239
01:32:15,463 --> 01:32:20,166
Living with this, you know,
feeling of, uh, of the last
2240
01:32:21,369 --> 01:32:24,504
Chapter.
2241
01:32:26,807 --> 01:32:30,744
Now, I got a call from the
hospital saying you need to
2242
01:32:30,746 --> 01:32:31,811
Hospital saying you need
to come here. I said, what?
2243
01:32:31,813 --> 01:32:33,913
Come here. I said, what?
What's the matter? They said,
2244
01:32:33,915 --> 01:32:34,814
What's the matter? They said,
well, he's he's not breathing.
2245
01:32:34,816 --> 01:32:35,548
Well, he's he's not breathing.
I said, what do you mean he's
2246
01:32:35,550 --> 01:32:36,316
I said, what do you mean he's
not breathing? I said, what
2247
01:32:36,318 --> 01:32:37,917
Not breathing? I said, what
does that mean? They said, you
2248
01:32:37,919 --> 01:32:40,486
Does that mean? They
said, you just need to
2249
01:32:42,022 --> 01:32:43,756
Come. We went into
the room where
2250
01:32:43,758 --> 01:32:46,226
we went into the room where his
2251
01:32:46,994 --> 01:32:50,096
Body was. And
2252
01:32:51,365 --> 01:32:54,534
We saw our friend.
2253
01:32:55,703 --> 01:33:00,974
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
2254
01:33:01,175 --> 01:33:03,409
I just remember us going
into the room. And me, robin
2255
01:33:03,411 --> 01:33:06,346
Into the room. And me, robin
and carlos just holding him.
2256
01:33:06,348 --> 01:33:08,181
And carlos just holding him.
Just. Just holding him. Just
2257
01:33:08,183 --> 01:33:10,683
Just. Just holding him.
Just like. This is crazy
2258
01:33:18,659 --> 01:33:21,828
All right, all right.
2259
01:33:28,636 --> 01:33:31,437
O jesus will be. Waiting
2260
01:33:34,407 --> 01:33:39,579
For me. I think I
was just too full
2261
01:33:39,947 --> 01:33:44,917
At luther's. Service to.
2262
01:33:45,252 --> 01:33:50,857
I can't tell you who
else did what or what or
2263
01:33:51,058 --> 01:33:56,596
It was just overwhelming for me.
2264
01:33:59,066 --> 01:34:01,567
Brazil me john avlon.
Russell, are you coming up
2265
01:34:01,569 --> 01:34:04,170
russell, are you
coming up alive?
2266
01:34:04,172 --> 01:34:09,843
Alive? I thought
it was real. Being
2267
01:34:09,845 --> 01:34:12,311
I thought it was real. Being
asked to speak. We will all
2268
01:34:12,313 --> 01:34:13,613
Asked to speak. We will all
miss him. But as has been said,
2269
01:34:13,615 --> 01:34:15,214
Miss him. But as has been said,
and probably will be said over
2270
01:34:15,216 --> 01:34:18,084
And probably will be said over
and over again, his legacy
2271
01:34:22,156 --> 01:34:27,627
Will live on forever. It was
something that had to be done.
2272
01:34:27,629 --> 01:34:29,549
Something that had to be
done. We got through it.
2273
01:34:31,098 --> 01:34:34,234
I love all of
2274
01:34:35,636 --> 01:34:40,073
Bahamas is the
greatest power of them.
2275
01:34:40,075 --> 01:34:42,909
Of them. All. Love.
Them. Honor the
2276
01:34:42,911 --> 01:34:45,278
all. Love. Them.
Honor the power.
2277
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:47,980
Power. That day of his
2278
01:34:48,181 --> 01:34:52,351
Funeral was so beautiful.
Everybody sang. We got up and
2279
01:34:52,353 --> 01:34:54,987
Everybody sang. We got up and
sang. Stevie was singing alicia
2280
01:34:54,989 --> 01:34:59,859
Sang. Stevie was singing
alicia keys. Everybody. Freddie
2281
01:35:00,094 --> 01:35:05,398
Jackson, everybody was there.
And we made it a celebration.
2282
01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:07,967
And we made it a
celebration. And so greatest
2283
01:35:10,137 --> 01:35:12,238
Power. Is going
on. I'm gonna love
2284
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:13,940
is going on. I'm gonna love
everybody has something that
2285
01:35:13,942 --> 01:35:16,409
Everybody has something that
they're supposed to do in this
2286
01:35:16,411 --> 01:35:16,876
They're supposed
to do in this life.
2287
01:35:16,878 --> 01:35:17,710
Life. My uncle had a job to do
2288
01:35:17,712 --> 01:35:21,881
my uncle had a job to do
while he was here, and he did
2289
01:35:21,883 --> 01:35:24,417
While he was here, and he
did it. He fulfilled his
2290
01:35:25,219 --> 01:35:29,455
Obligation to this earth.
You can't think of that man
2291
01:35:29,957 --> 01:35:34,127
Without thinking about love.
Thank you for coming out and
2292
01:35:34,129 --> 01:35:36,696
Thank you for coming out
and celebrating this awesome
2293
01:35:36,698 --> 01:35:38,431
Celebrating this awesome
occasion with us. The store
2294
01:35:38,433 --> 01:35:40,700
Occasion with us. The store
will be here for many, many
2295
01:35:40,702 --> 01:35:41,567
Will be here for many, many
moons for many, many people to
2296
01:35:41,569 --> 01:35:45,705
Moons for many, many people to
come back. And when they see
2297
01:35:45,707 --> 01:35:47,907
Come back. And when they see
his name. They're going to
2298
01:35:47,909 --> 01:35:50,476
His name. They're going to
remember why they love him.
2299
01:35:50,878 --> 01:35:56,878
Love has truly been good to me.
2300
01:35:57,751 --> 01:36:01,921
Not even one had. Day or
minute have I had since you've
2301
01:36:01,923 --> 01:36:04,424
Minute have I had
since you've come my
2302
01:36:04,858 --> 01:36:08,194
Way. I hope you
2303
01:36:08,462 --> 01:36:11,531
Know I'm gladly
2304
01:36:11,932 --> 01:36:17,069
Go anywhere you take me.
It's so amazing to. Be
2305
01:36:17,071 --> 01:36:21,908
it's so amazing to. Be
loved. I'd follow you to the
2306
01:36:22,343 --> 01:36:26,379
Moon in the sky. Above. If
you say aretha, you know
2307
01:36:26,381 --> 01:36:27,547
if you say aretha, you know
who we're talking about. If
2308
01:36:27,549 --> 01:36:29,549
Who we're talking about. If
you say marvin, you hear a
2309
01:36:29,551 --> 01:36:30,383
You say marvin, you hear a
sound in your head. Stevie.
2310
01:36:30,385 --> 01:36:32,485
Sound in your head. Stevie.
Definitely hear like a few
2311
01:36:32,487 --> 01:36:34,620
Definitely hear like a few
thousand. Yeah. And if you say
2312
01:36:34,622 --> 01:36:35,354
Thousand. Yeah. And if you say
luther, we all know exactly
2313
01:36:35,356 --> 01:36:39,993
Luther, we all know exactly
what you're talking about. Got
2314
01:36:39,995 --> 01:36:42,362
What you're talking about. Got
to tell you, I can't think of
2315
01:36:42,364 --> 01:36:44,764
To tell you, I can't think of
anybody that is near to him.
2316
01:36:44,766 --> 01:36:46,932
Anybody that is near to him.
And his uniqueness and his
2317
01:36:46,934 --> 01:36:48,368
and his uniqueness and his
talent. Just even the texture
2318
01:36:48,370 --> 01:36:49,435
Talent. Just even the texture
of his voice. You only come
2319
01:36:49,437 --> 01:36:50,936
Of his voice. You only come
across an artist like luther
2320
01:36:50,938 --> 01:36:53,439
Across an artist like luther
vandross, like once in a
2321
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:57,577
Lifetime. And it's so.
Amazing. Amazing. I could stay
2322
01:36:57,579 --> 01:36:59,512
amazing. I could stay forever.
2323
01:36:59,913 --> 01:37:05,518
Stay. Forever. Here in love
and not leave you. Never.
2324
01:37:05,919 --> 01:37:09,088
Cause we've got a love
2325
01:37:09,757 --> 01:37:12,892
Truly. It's amazing, amazing
2326
01:37:13,527 --> 01:37:18,731
Love brought us together.
Together I would leave you now
2327
01:37:18,733 --> 01:37:21,300
Together I would leave you
now and never guess. We've got
2328
01:37:21,501 --> 01:37:27,306
Amazing love. They
say things take time
2329
01:37:27,308 --> 01:37:27,807
they say things take
time and effort.
2330
01:37:27,809 --> 01:37:29,409
And effort. But it's
worth the wait I
2331
01:37:29,411 --> 01:37:31,410
but it's worth the wait
I can tell some stories.
2332
01:37:31,412 --> 01:37:33,613
Can tell some stories.
I'm so excited.
2333
01:37:33,615 --> 01:37:34,513
I'm so excited. Believe
twitter brought the
2334
01:37:34,515 --> 01:37:35,548
believe twitter brought the
world together and the world
2335
01:37:35,550 --> 01:37:37,116
World together and the world
was not ready to see itself.
2336
01:37:37,118 --> 01:37:38,584
Was not ready to see itself.
You read the comments.
2337
01:37:38,586 --> 01:37:39,318
You read the comments.
Yeah, I might recommend that
2338
01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:40,986
yeah, I might recommend that
you don't. Yeah, that's how I
2339
01:37:40,988 --> 01:37:41,454
You don't. Yeah,
that's how I get by.
2340
01:37:41,456 --> 01:37:42,421
Get by. We never backed away.
2341
01:37:42,423 --> 01:37:45,524
We never backed away. He
never stepped down. Oh,
2342
01:37:45,526 --> 01:37:47,336
he never stepped down.
Oh, that's how I give up.
2343
01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:49,796
I feel at home here.
2344
01:37:50,063 --> 01:37:55,268
Lord. That's how I get by.
2345
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:03,375
I want to be the greatest
player that I could possibly
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