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Just after 7:00
this morning,
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a man killed
as he mowed a lawn,
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a cab driver gunned down
at a gas station,
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a woman shot
as she sat on a bench,
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another woman vacuuming out
the back of her car.
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Between the third
and fifth shooting,
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it became very apparent
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that something
very sinister was going on.
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One of the most
massive manhunts
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in the nation's history.
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They put us out
patrolling at first.
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Everyone that was
available went.
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All around
the nation's capital,
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police on a hair-trigger
alerts
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in a desperate search
for suspects.
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None of the victims had
anything in common.
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They were just going out,
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doing what they do
on an average day.
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The serial sniper
has struck again.
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The victim is a child.
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That's just
a whole 'nother level
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of sick, demented
terrorist criminal.
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I'm very nervous.
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We're scared coming to work.
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I'm scareder than I've
ever been in my life.
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The whole region was
just gripped by fear,
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and it was up to us
in law enforcement to stop it.
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In the FBI, we make
a lot of headlines.
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Drug busts,
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mob stings,
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terrorist takedowns.
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Get down! Get down!
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We understand why people
want to tell stories about us.
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Mark it.
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- Freeze!
- FBI.
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- FBI!
- Action!
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But they don't know
the half of it.
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What really goes down,
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we save that for each other
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when we're talking
agent to agent.
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This is "FBI True."
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Kristy Kottis is a 24-year
veteran of the FBI.
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She worked gangs,
crimes against children,
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as well as human
and drug trafficking.
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Kottis was the supervisor
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of the FBI's
Threat Response Squad,
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overseeing
the Bureau's response
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to terrorism threats
in New York City.
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So the Beltway Snipers,
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what was your job
when this was unfolding?
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Where were you?
What was happening?
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I was working
cold case homicides
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in the Washington DC/Virginia
area.
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And when the first
shooting happened...
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A 55-year-old man shot
in a supermarket parking lot.
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James Martin shot
Wednesday night.
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It was in Maryland.
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No one thought
that it was going to evolve
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into the major case
that it evolved in.
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Melissa Thomas joined
the FBI in 1991,
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working with the Gang
Task Force in San Diego.
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She later joined
the Counterterrorism Squad
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in Washington DC
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and the Behavioral Analysis
Department at Quantico.
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She eventually transferred
to International Operations
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in Rome
where she retired in 2014.
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The DC/Maryland/Virginia
area, we have a lot--
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unfortunately
a lot of violent crime.
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That was
the Baltimore division.
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Washington field office
was not involved.
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And then another
shooting happened.
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Just after 7:00
this morning,
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a man killed
as he mowed a lawn.
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James "Sonny" Buchanan
killed
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behind the Fitzgerald
Auto Mall.
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And then another
shooting happened.
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A cab driver gunned down
at a gas station.
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Later, a woman shot
as she sat on a bench
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outside a post office.
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It came from right up there.
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And another woman
vacuuming out
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the back of her car
in a gas station.
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All were killed
by a single shot.
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So far, no one
has been connected
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to the killing spree.
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It became very apparent
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that something
very sinister was going on.
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Our homicide rate just
increased by 25% in one day.
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When did the FBI
and investigators realize
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that these shootings
may be connected?
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Very early on.
ATF took the lead
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on the ballistics analysis,
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and they quickly identified
that it was
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coming from the same weapon.
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We strongly feel that all
of these are connected.
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The weaponry seems
to be very similar.
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That does heighten our concern.
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It's a year after 9/11,
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so our investigative brains
start clicking.
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Is this another terrorist
out there shooting Americans?
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Now you don't know
if it's an act of terrorism
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or if it's just
some nut out there
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running around shooting people.
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Well, I had to get gas
today at a gas station,
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and I'm scareder than I've
ever been in my life.
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None of the victims had
anything in common
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other than the fact
that they were just going out,
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doing what they do
on an average day.
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Baltimore was taking the lead
for the FBI,
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working in conjunction
with Montgomery County.
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But we had our finger
kind of in the pie,
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because we wanna know,
do you all need any help?
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We have called in
other resources.
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We have members
of the Secret Service,
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FBI, Maryland State Police.
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I was sitting in the office,
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and got a call
from Montgomery County SWAT.
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They said,
we don't know what we have yet,
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but we may need you
to come down.
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For us at that time,
this was brand-new.
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We had never faced
anything like this.
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Keith Runk joined the
Maryland State Police in 1986,
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serving as a SWAT commander
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and assistant commander of the
Special Operations Division.
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Today,
he's the lead instructor
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for civilian response
to active shooter incidents.
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On the second day, we got
the call that they needed help,
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so we went down
to Montgomery County,
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where the tactical operations
were working out of.
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And, Whit,
did you have the same thing?
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You got the call?
It was a couple days
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after Keith
and his guys got involved.
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Whit Darnell spent 30 years
in law enforcement,
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beginning his career
at a state agency in Tennessee
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before joining the FBI,
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where he served
on the Hostage Rescue Team.
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Chief Moose had asked
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for help
from the federal government.
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Because of the magnitude
of the investigation,
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I am writing
to the attorney general
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to initiate a formal request
for assistance.
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I give him a lot of credit
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because he didn't just say,
I need help.
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He did an official request
for FBI assets,
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which means that,
under the serial killer act,
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the FBI was able
to get involved.
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They put us out just
kind of patrolling at first.
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Everyone that was
available went.
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The serial sniper
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terrorizing
suburban Washington,
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defying one of the most
massive manhunts
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in the nation's history.
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We broke the team down
into two shifts.
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We had day a shift
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and an afternoon/evening
night shift.
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The whole region was just
gripped by fear,
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and it was up to us
in law enforcement to stop it.
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As morning approaches, there
is a growing sense of dread.
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About 7:04,
the sniper is still at large.
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Fears that the killing spree
is not over
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are underscored
by two more shootings.
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72-year-old Pascal Charlot
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was killed
crossing the street.
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A woman was shot and wounded
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at a suburban shopping mall
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about 60 miles southwest
of Montgomery County.
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If a shooting happened,
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the patrol would try to go in
and triangulate
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and cordon that area off
and set up roadblocks,
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especially
at a major interstate,
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on-ramps or off-ramps
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that they could have
easily used to get away.
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And that big
law enforcement machine
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that was involved
is running leads.
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And they're getting
thousands of tips a day
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that they've gotta
sort through.
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Call our tip line at 1-888...
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324-9800.
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The tip line was
stood up overnight.
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We had approximately
50 lines in a room,
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eight-hour shifts.
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That tip line was covered 24/7.
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They would triage the tips
that would come in,
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and then I would
review those tips after
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and decide, okay, this looks
like interesting information.
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We'll send it up
to the command post.
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Every morning,
I would get in 5:30, 6:00,
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and I would start
reviewing tips.
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And by then, we had
the white van lead coming in.
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Gotten several reports
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of a white van being seen
in the area.
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We have a lookout
for a cream-colored Astro van.
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Can't tell you
how many thousands of tips
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we had called in about white
box trucks and white vans.
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We had no license plate,
really no make and model
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other than that.
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All day,
police have been stopping
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and searching
every white truck in sight.
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You had to look
into every single one of them.
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And every one was suspect
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because that's what we had
to go off of.
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That created a monster
like you cannot even believe.
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95 North, 95 South,
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in the middle
of Washington, DC,
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shut down for hours.
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It was a nightmare.
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The dragnet was very,
very quick.
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I actually got caught up in it
trying to get here.
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What we didn't know
at the time
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was there's probably
500,000 white panel vans
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driving around that area
at any given time.
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Thank you.
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It got to the point
where the drivers were like,
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hey, I was just stopped
five minutes ago.
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I think this is the fifth
or sixth time,
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maybe the seventh time
I've been stopped.
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And it wasn't like
a typical traffic stop
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where you walk up
and you're like,
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hey, I need to see
your license and registration.
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- Yeah.
- Stopped you for speeding.
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We approached with guns out.
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We definitely felt
that if we engaged these guys,
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it was gonna end
in a shoot-out.
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So Melissa,
when do we start getting
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some breaks
in the investigation?
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Anything found
that was specific
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that you could use
with your team?
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The school shooting
in Bowie, Maryland,
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a 13-year-old boy was shot.
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The serial sniper has
struck again.
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This time, for the first time,
the victim is a child,
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a child who tonight
is fighting for his life.
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That's just a whole
'nother level
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of sick, demented terrorist.
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No one shoots an innocent child
coming out of school.
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It makes you angry.
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It pisses you off.
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We don't have more to go on.
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There was a note left
at the crime scene
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at the elementary school,
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a tarot card.
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The tarot card is the one
that depicts death.
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People started trying
to decipher the tarot card.
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What does it mean?
It's a death card.
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People started talking
to psychics,
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talking to mediums.
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It is a frightening symbol.
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What's the message?
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And there was a message
written on there.
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"Call me God."
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Gave me a little picture,
we're dealing
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with this psychotic individual
way outside the norm
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of human thinking
and ethics and morals.
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The sniper is still
at large.
255
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And the case has now entered
its second week,
256
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and this evening, the sniper
or snipers has struck again.
257
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Myers was just making
a quick trip
258
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to a Virginia gas station
259
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when he was shot in the head.
260
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They were canceling
outdoor events.
261
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- Yeah.
- They were telling people
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not to go out, be alert.
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It changed
the way people operated.
264
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I'm very nervous, you know.
265
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- We're scared to come to work.
- Everyone is frightened.
266
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This happened again,
and like the other shootings,
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the killer got away.
268
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No afternoon kindergarten
Montgomery County,
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outdoor school activities
suspended.
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For the first time
in 56 years,
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there will be no bands,
no floats,
272
00:11:48,673 --> 00:11:51,285
no kids dressed
in their Halloween costumes.
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People pumping gas crouching
down beside their cars.
274
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They would, you know,
put a little bit in,
275
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and they would get
out of there.
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Gas stations putting
big blue tarps up
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to hide people, give them
a little bit of concealment
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while they were pumping gas,
things like that.
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Not having a pattern.
280
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Not knowing who, what, why--
281
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the why of why
this was happening.
282
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We were all in fear of our life
283
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living in that area
at the time.
284
00:12:13,872 --> 00:12:17,137
And then when we found out
Linda Franklin had been shot,
285
00:12:17,180 --> 00:12:19,313
that ramped it up
another notch.
286
00:12:19,356 --> 00:12:21,228
Linda Franklin was a wife,
a mother,
287
00:12:21,271 --> 00:12:24,448
and an FBI employee.
288
00:12:24,492 --> 00:12:26,624
Her life ended
inside a Home Depot
289
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parking garage last night.
290
00:12:40,638 --> 00:12:42,640
Not only did we have
this chaos going on
291
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outside of our offices,
292
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but now here was
our own family member.
293
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I did not feel protected.
294
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It was just fear.
295
00:13:00,136 --> 00:13:02,443
No one has seen
the face of the killer
296
00:13:02,486 --> 00:13:05,315
or even has a firm description
of the getaway vehicle.
297
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When does the next
big break come?
298
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After the shooting
in Hanover County
299
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in Ashland at the Ponderosa.
300
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A man and his wife were
walking from the restaurant
301
00:13:17,762 --> 00:13:19,590
to their car when she heard
302
00:13:19,634 --> 00:13:21,375
what sounded like
a car backfiring.
303
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Her husband took
about three steps
304
00:13:23,290 --> 00:13:25,205
and then began to collapse
in the parking lot.
305
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Thankfully,
the victim survived.
306
00:13:26,728 --> 00:13:30,558
The crime scene search revealed
not only a shell casing,
307
00:13:30,601 --> 00:13:33,909
but there was also
a note tacked to a tree.
308
00:13:33,952 --> 00:13:35,824
It was found
in a little Halloween bag,
309
00:13:35,867 --> 00:13:38,435
and it had stars on it.
310
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It was a very bizarre note,
if you will.
311
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Childlike, to me.
312
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There were demands for money
313
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and information
that they were going to call
314
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these phones at a certain time.
315
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But we had already
missed that deadline.
316
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To the person
who left us a message
317
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at the Ponderosa last night,
318
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we do want to talk to you.
319
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Call us at the number
you provided.
320
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It also referred to children.
321
00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,424
What did it say
about children?
322
00:14:10,467 --> 00:14:13,470
It is in the form
of a postscript.
323
00:14:15,429 --> 00:14:21,391
"Your children are not safe
anywhere at any time."
324
00:14:21,435 --> 00:14:22,436
Wow.
325
00:14:22,479 --> 00:14:23,480
And it was like,
326
00:14:23,524 --> 00:14:25,787
oh, my God, now what?
327
00:14:30,879 --> 00:14:33,185
And they referred to
a priest that was called
328
00:14:33,229 --> 00:14:36,319
in Ashland in Virginia.
329
00:14:36,363 --> 00:14:38,974
And that priest told us that,
330
00:14:39,017 --> 00:14:41,193
yeah, he had received
this really weird phone call
331
00:14:41,237 --> 00:14:44,109
talking about
a shooting in Montgomery.
332
00:14:44,153 --> 00:14:47,809
And from the information
that the priest provided,
333
00:14:47,852 --> 00:14:49,550
the caller to the priest
was not talking
334
00:14:49,593 --> 00:14:51,987
about Montgomery County,
Maryland.
335
00:14:52,030 --> 00:14:54,294
He was talking about
Montgomery, Alabama.
336
00:14:57,166 --> 00:14:59,864
Somebody picked up the phone
and called Montgomery, Alabama,
337
00:14:59,908 --> 00:15:01,388
and said, do you have
any unsolved shootings
338
00:15:01,431 --> 00:15:02,954
that we could look at?
339
00:15:02,998 --> 00:15:04,739
The response back
from Montgomery, Alabama,
340
00:15:04,782 --> 00:15:06,915
was, oh, yeah, we do.
341
00:15:06,958 --> 00:15:08,699
On September the 21st,
342
00:15:08,743 --> 00:15:11,006
one Alabama State Liquor Board
employee was killed
343
00:15:11,049 --> 00:15:13,225
and another wounded
by a single gunman
344
00:15:13,269 --> 00:15:15,402
in the parking lot
outside their store.
345
00:15:15,445 --> 00:15:17,447
And they had a magazine,
346
00:15:17,491 --> 00:15:20,145
and I mean a magazine
like a periodical.
347
00:15:20,189 --> 00:15:21,277
But it had a fingerprint on it.
348
00:15:23,018 --> 00:15:25,542
The fingerprint from
the magazine was identified
349
00:15:25,586 --> 00:15:27,283
to Lee Boyd Malvo.
350
00:15:29,590 --> 00:15:32,070
Malvo was 17 years old,
351
00:15:32,114 --> 00:15:34,464
a Jamaican citizen.
352
00:15:34,508 --> 00:15:37,467
Okay.
What's his background?
353
00:15:37,511 --> 00:15:40,296
And things started
to get put together.
354
00:15:40,340 --> 00:15:42,211
There was a tip
that had come in
355
00:15:42,254 --> 00:15:45,475
to our Seattle division
from someone who said,
356
00:15:45,519 --> 00:15:50,567
listen, I am a friend
of John Muhammad.
357
00:15:50,611 --> 00:15:52,569
And I know that he's traveling
around the country
358
00:15:52,613 --> 00:15:57,139
with a younger man,
who his nickname is Sniper.
359
00:15:57,182 --> 00:16:00,142
And he said John Muhammad's
ex-wife lived
360
00:16:00,185 --> 00:16:02,318
in the DC area
with their children.
361
00:16:02,362 --> 00:16:05,190
And he told us
that John Muhammad
362
00:16:05,234 --> 00:16:09,891
used to target practice
in a backyard with a rifle.
363
00:16:09,934 --> 00:16:13,503
And then we quickly find out
that Malvo's mother
364
00:16:13,547 --> 00:16:15,331
had met John Muhammad
in the Caribbean.
365
00:16:18,116 --> 00:16:20,205
And so it was like, oh, okay,
366
00:16:20,249 --> 00:16:21,990
this probably is
Lee Boyd Malvo,
367
00:16:22,033 --> 00:16:24,819
and he probably is traveling
with John Muhammad.
368
00:16:24,862 --> 00:16:26,516
Background information
on John Muhammad
369
00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,518
was that he was former Army,
370
00:16:28,562 --> 00:16:31,434
had been stationed
in Washington.
371
00:16:31,478 --> 00:16:34,263
Quickly ran down information
about his ex-wife,
372
00:16:34,306 --> 00:16:35,917
where they lived.
373
00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:37,309
Your head would spin
374
00:16:37,353 --> 00:16:40,051
how fast this information
was coming in.
375
00:16:40,095 --> 00:16:42,314
Do we have a vehicle
associated with them?
376
00:16:42,358 --> 00:16:44,012
They weren't driving
a white box truck.
377
00:16:44,055 --> 00:16:46,318
We quickly found out that
John Muhammad was registered
378
00:16:46,362 --> 00:16:50,235
to an older model Chevy Caprice
379
00:16:50,279 --> 00:16:51,759
that had New Jersey
license plates.
380
00:16:54,022 --> 00:16:56,372
So we have the vehicle,
and we have the license plates.
381
00:16:56,416 --> 00:16:58,679
A federal arrest warrant
has been issued
382
00:16:58,722 --> 00:17:02,291
for John Allen Muhammad,
a Black male, 42 years of age.
383
00:17:02,334 --> 00:17:04,380
He may be in the company
of a juvenile.
384
00:17:04,424 --> 00:17:06,687
They are also looking
for a vehicle
385
00:17:06,730 --> 00:17:08,645
which these two are believed
to be driving,
386
00:17:08,689 --> 00:17:11,822
a 1990 Chevy Caprice,
New Jersey license plates,
387
00:17:11,866 --> 00:17:15,391
NDA-21Z.
388
00:17:18,394 --> 00:17:21,789
Within hours, we had someone
whose commute took him
389
00:17:21,832 --> 00:17:25,009
along I-70
in northwestern Maryland.
390
00:17:25,053 --> 00:17:26,881
He decided to pull over
to take a break.
391
00:17:26,924 --> 00:17:29,057
And because he heard that BOLO,
392
00:17:29,100 --> 00:17:30,754
he was like, oh, my God,
393
00:17:30,798 --> 00:17:32,495
there's this car right here.
394
00:17:48,685 --> 00:17:53,342
The information was
not even 12 hours old.
395
00:17:53,385 --> 00:17:55,779
I mean, it was
happening so fast.
396
00:17:57,433 --> 00:17:59,479
And they said to stop
what you're doing
397
00:17:59,522 --> 00:18:01,002
and head up to the rest stop.
398
00:18:01,045 --> 00:18:04,005
Helicopter was waiting.
We lifted off,
399
00:18:04,048 --> 00:18:06,616
and we started our planning
what we're gonna do.
400
00:18:09,706 --> 00:18:12,013
They had shut 70 down
in both directions.
401
00:18:12,056 --> 00:18:14,537
So there was no
traffic moving.
402
00:18:14,581 --> 00:18:17,235
Staging area was two
or three miles
403
00:18:17,279 --> 00:18:18,672
from the rest stop.
404
00:18:18,715 --> 00:18:20,674
Once we got there,
we got the verbal briefing
405
00:18:20,717 --> 00:18:23,894
from Keith
and the other leadership.
406
00:18:23,938 --> 00:18:26,723
So the idea was to smash
the windows out of the car,
407
00:18:26,767 --> 00:18:28,682
speed, surprise,
violence of action.
408
00:18:28,725 --> 00:18:30,814
Overwhelm them
with force and surprise
409
00:18:30,858 --> 00:18:32,207
and hopefully win the day.
410
00:18:35,253 --> 00:18:36,864
We'd park on the side
of the interstate,
411
00:18:36,907 --> 00:18:39,649
and we had to basically
climb up a grassy hill
412
00:18:39,693 --> 00:18:42,609
into the wood line to approach
the car from the rear.
413
00:18:42,652 --> 00:18:44,480
And the car was backed in.
414
00:18:44,524 --> 00:18:47,918
It was approximately
20 yards of open space
415
00:18:47,962 --> 00:18:50,051
between the wood line
and the back of the car.
416
00:18:50,094 --> 00:18:52,706
We really felt that we were
going into a shoot-out.
417
00:18:52,749 --> 00:18:54,490
That's what we were
gearing up for.
418
00:18:54,534 --> 00:18:56,448
We came out single file.
We split.
419
00:18:59,234 --> 00:19:02,237
We sprinted from the wood
line to the back of the car
420
00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,022
fully expecting the shots
to start at any moment.
421
00:19:05,066 --> 00:19:07,068
The car had very dark
tinted windows,
422
00:19:07,111 --> 00:19:09,853
so we really couldn't
see inside.
423
00:19:09,897 --> 00:19:11,812
I went to the passenger
side of the car.
424
00:19:11,855 --> 00:19:15,598
My job was to breach out
the rear window, which I did.
425
00:19:18,166 --> 00:19:20,472
As soon as I did,
my partner and I looked in,
426
00:19:20,516 --> 00:19:22,823
and Muhammad was
in the back seat setting up,
427
00:19:22,866 --> 00:19:24,172
and his eyes were
about this big.
428
00:19:25,869 --> 00:19:27,131
And we gave him commands,
429
00:19:27,175 --> 00:19:28,655
put your hands up,
which he did.
430
00:19:28,698 --> 00:19:30,352
And he's sitting there
like a deer in the headlights.
431
00:19:30,395 --> 00:19:32,180
So I reached in,
grabbed him by the wrist,
432
00:19:32,223 --> 00:19:35,357
and just as hard as I could
pulled him through the window.
433
00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:36,750
Simultaneously,
this is going on
434
00:19:36,793 --> 00:19:38,839
with Malvo in the front seat.
435
00:19:40,144 --> 00:19:43,060
It's like being sucked out
by a huge vacuum.
436
00:19:43,104 --> 00:19:44,453
So once you had them cuffed,
437
00:19:44,496 --> 00:19:45,802
did they try to talk
to each other?
438
00:19:45,846 --> 00:19:47,108
Did they look at each other?
439
00:19:47,151 --> 00:19:48,239
We kept them separated
440
00:19:48,283 --> 00:19:49,763
on opposite sides
of the vehicle.
441
00:19:49,806 --> 00:19:51,547
Muhammad was very quiet,
never said a word.
442
00:19:51,591 --> 00:19:53,244
Malvo, was he chatty or no?
443
00:19:53,288 --> 00:19:55,246
They didn't say a word.
444
00:19:55,290 --> 00:19:57,074
The one thing
that stands out to me
445
00:19:57,118 --> 00:20:00,121
is that they just had
that blank, unemotional stare.
446
00:20:03,864 --> 00:20:05,648
Their eyes said it all.
447
00:20:05,692 --> 00:20:07,737
They knew the gig was up.
448
00:20:09,652 --> 00:20:10,871
During that whole three weeks,
449
00:20:10,914 --> 00:20:12,437
even at the point of takedown,
450
00:20:12,481 --> 00:20:14,352
I don't think we realized
451
00:20:14,396 --> 00:20:16,659
that they were shooting
from the back of that trunk.
452
00:20:23,666 --> 00:20:28,018
I remember my blood
just going cold because,
453
00:20:28,062 --> 00:20:32,762
had they been on watch
and been in that position,
454
00:20:32,806 --> 00:20:34,155
they would have had
the jump on us,
455
00:20:34,198 --> 00:20:35,809
and we would have had no idea.
456
00:20:39,029 --> 00:20:40,988
Good evening.
It's over. They got 'em.
457
00:20:41,031 --> 00:20:43,947
A joint tactical SWAT team
of federal, state,
458
00:20:43,991 --> 00:20:46,863
and local police captured
41-year-old John Muhammad
459
00:20:46,907 --> 00:20:49,257
and 17-year-old
John Lee Malvo,
460
00:20:49,300 --> 00:20:52,434
suspects
in the sniper shooting.
461
00:20:52,477 --> 00:20:53,696
Now our work has started,
462
00:20:53,740 --> 00:20:55,698
because now
we've got to figure out
463
00:20:55,742 --> 00:20:57,482
how to convict them
so that they never see
464
00:20:57,526 --> 00:20:59,528
the light of day anymore.
465
00:20:59,571 --> 00:21:03,010
Well, we wanted
to find out the story.
466
00:21:03,053 --> 00:21:04,533
You know,
how did these two meet?
467
00:21:06,448 --> 00:21:10,191
Malvo lived with Muhammad and
his children in the Caribbean.
468
00:21:10,234 --> 00:21:12,062
Muhammad had taken
his children there--
469
00:21:12,106 --> 00:21:13,760
illegally because he was going
470
00:21:13,803 --> 00:21:15,413
through a divorce
with the wife.
471
00:21:17,111 --> 00:21:20,549
That leads us to the why
of all this
472
00:21:20,592 --> 00:21:23,552
that we have been looking for.
473
00:21:23,595 --> 00:21:26,337
John Muhammad had to give
his children back to his wife.
474
00:21:26,381 --> 00:21:28,470
She took them
to live in Maryland.
475
00:21:28,513 --> 00:21:30,428
He was not seeing his children.
476
00:21:30,472 --> 00:21:32,561
That is our motive,
unbelievably enough,
477
00:21:32,604 --> 00:21:35,607
that he was just furious
478
00:21:35,651 --> 00:21:37,000
that he couldn't see his kids,
479
00:21:37,044 --> 00:21:39,089
and eventually wanted
to kill his ex-wife
480
00:21:39,133 --> 00:21:40,874
and get his children back.
481
00:21:42,614 --> 00:21:44,486
Muhammad started
his shooting spree
482
00:21:44,529 --> 00:21:46,618
to try to blend her in
483
00:21:46,662 --> 00:21:48,664
as just one
of the unfortunate victims.
484
00:21:48,708 --> 00:21:50,971
If he killed various people,
485
00:21:51,014 --> 00:21:52,973
it wouldn't get right back,
you know, that maybe
486
00:21:53,016 --> 00:21:54,844
it was the ex-husband
that killed the wife.
487
00:21:54,888 --> 00:21:57,673
You know, he's not
a natural-thinking human.
488
00:22:00,807 --> 00:22:02,939
Good evening.
With a possible death penalty
489
00:22:02,983 --> 00:22:05,899
looming if he is convicted,
the first defendant on trial
490
00:22:05,942 --> 00:22:08,858
in the DC area
serial sniper case
491
00:22:08,902 --> 00:22:10,817
pulled a last-minute
surprise today.
492
00:22:10,860 --> 00:22:12,688
Part that amazed
all of us was,
493
00:22:12,732 --> 00:22:14,081
he wanted to represent himself.
494
00:22:15,735 --> 00:22:17,824
This is a capital murder case,
495
00:22:17,867 --> 00:22:19,303
you're facing
the death penalty,
496
00:22:19,347 --> 00:22:21,610
you're not a lawyer,
and you say,
497
00:22:21,653 --> 00:22:24,004
I'm gonna represent myself
because I know better
498
00:22:24,047 --> 00:22:27,311
than anybody else, because
that was who he is--he was.
499
00:22:27,355 --> 00:22:30,184
A psychologist might say
this is a death wish for him.
500
00:22:30,227 --> 00:22:33,622
Muhammad will also be able
to face down his accusers,
501
00:22:33,665 --> 00:22:36,886
including survivors,
and that is a chilling prospect
502
00:22:36,930 --> 00:22:40,847
for those who were terrorized
around this time last year.
503
00:22:40,890 --> 00:22:43,240
For me personally,
I've never been cross-examined
504
00:22:43,284 --> 00:22:44,589
by a subject
of one of my case.
505
00:22:44,633 --> 00:22:46,809
And he--he did.
He cross-examined me
506
00:22:46,853 --> 00:22:49,159
after I testified
for the prosecution,
507
00:22:49,203 --> 00:22:51,161
and he asked me
just basic question.
508
00:22:52,859 --> 00:22:55,383
And whether it was
an HRT guy,
509
00:22:55,426 --> 00:22:57,777
whether it was a survivor,
510
00:22:57,820 --> 00:23:00,127
or whether it was
a family member,
511
00:23:00,170 --> 00:23:02,259
he didn't get
any satisfaction from them.
512
00:23:02,303 --> 00:23:04,958
They answered his questions,
513
00:23:05,001 --> 00:23:08,048
and they didn't break down
and cry in front of him,
514
00:23:08,091 --> 00:23:10,790
and I think that's probably
something he was looking for.
515
00:23:32,289 --> 00:23:34,248
I was very proud just
to have been a part of it.
516
00:23:34,291 --> 00:23:35,858
I also felt lucky,
517
00:23:35,902 --> 00:23:37,642
because there were other guys
out there like us...
518
00:23:37,686 --> 00:23:39,209
- Yeah.
- And everybody wanted
519
00:23:39,253 --> 00:23:41,385
to be the ones to do the arrest
520
00:23:41,429 --> 00:23:43,300
or do the takedown,
and we just happened to be
521
00:23:43,344 --> 00:23:45,825
in the right place
at the right time.
522
00:23:45,868 --> 00:23:48,001
When he was given
the death penalty,
523
00:23:48,044 --> 00:23:49,219
of course, you know,
524
00:23:49,263 --> 00:23:51,743
we're supposed to keep it
together, right?
525
00:23:51,787 --> 00:23:56,270
But there was a investigator
who turned around
526
00:23:56,313 --> 00:23:59,664
and looked at me
and was just in tears,
527
00:23:59,708 --> 00:24:00,970
because that's how we felt.
528
00:24:01,014 --> 00:24:02,624
Like, okay, you know,
we did it.
529
00:24:02,667 --> 00:24:05,888
We did justice for,
you know, this set of victims.
530
00:24:05,932 --> 00:24:07,890
I don't know if there was
a dry eye in the courtroom,
531
00:24:07,934 --> 00:24:11,111
because it was like,
okay, all of this work,
532
00:24:11,154 --> 00:24:14,418
all of this emotion, not only
from the investigators
533
00:24:14,462 --> 00:24:15,680
but the family members
534
00:24:15,724 --> 00:24:19,293
who courageously testified
every day
535
00:24:19,336 --> 00:24:23,123
or sat in that courtroom
and listened and watched.
536
00:24:23,166 --> 00:24:24,951
It felt good.
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