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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:03,142 Just after 7:00 this morning, 2 00:00:03,186 --> 00:00:04,579 a man killed as he mowed a lawn, 3 00:00:04,622 --> 00:00:07,103 a cab driver gunned down at a gas station, 4 00:00:07,146 --> 00:00:09,061 a woman shot as she sat on a bench, 5 00:00:09,105 --> 00:00:11,803 another woman vacuuming out the back of her car. 6 00:00:11,847 --> 00:00:13,544 Between the third and fifth shooting, 7 00:00:13,588 --> 00:00:15,416 it became very apparent 8 00:00:15,459 --> 00:00:18,593 that something very sinister was going on. 9 00:00:18,636 --> 00:00:20,203 One of the most massive manhunts 10 00:00:20,246 --> 00:00:21,596 in the nation's history. 11 00:00:21,639 --> 00:00:23,424 They put us out patrolling at first. 12 00:00:23,467 --> 00:00:24,773 Everyone that was available went. 13 00:00:24,816 --> 00:00:26,252 All around the nation's capital, 14 00:00:26,296 --> 00:00:27,689 police on a hair-trigger alerts 15 00:00:27,732 --> 00:00:29,995 in a desperate search for suspects. 16 00:00:30,039 --> 00:00:32,215 None of the victims had anything in common. 17 00:00:32,258 --> 00:00:33,608 They were just going out, 18 00:00:33,651 --> 00:00:35,653 doing what they do on an average day. 19 00:00:35,697 --> 00:00:37,699 The serial sniper has struck again. 20 00:00:37,742 --> 00:00:39,178 The victim is a child. 21 00:00:39,222 --> 00:00:41,180 That's just a whole 'nother level 22 00:00:41,224 --> 00:00:42,878 of sick, demented terrorist criminal. 23 00:00:42,921 --> 00:00:44,009 I'm very nervous. 24 00:00:44,053 --> 00:00:45,576 We're scared coming to work. 25 00:00:45,620 --> 00:00:47,273 I'm scareder than I've ever been in my life. 26 00:00:47,317 --> 00:00:49,319 The whole region was just gripped by fear, 27 00:00:49,362 --> 00:00:52,278 and it was up to us in law enforcement to stop it. 28 00:00:55,543 --> 00:00:58,720 In the FBI, we make a lot of headlines. 29 00:01:01,723 --> 00:01:03,202 Drug busts, 30 00:01:03,246 --> 00:01:06,075 mob stings, 31 00:01:06,118 --> 00:01:07,859 terrorist takedowns. 32 00:01:07,903 --> 00:01:09,992 Get down! Get down! 33 00:01:10,035 --> 00:01:12,385 We understand why people want to tell stories about us. 34 00:01:12,429 --> 00:01:13,430 Mark it. 35 00:01:13,474 --> 00:01:14,910 - Freeze! - FBI. 36 00:01:14,953 --> 00:01:16,564 - FBI! - Action! 37 00:01:16,607 --> 00:01:18,609 But they don't know the half of it. 38 00:01:20,263 --> 00:01:22,352 What really goes down, 39 00:01:22,395 --> 00:01:24,615 we save that for each other 40 00:01:24,659 --> 00:01:26,704 when we're talking agent to agent. 41 00:01:29,751 --> 00:01:32,928 This is "FBI True." 42 00:01:42,459 --> 00:01:46,550 Kristy Kottis is a 24-year veteran of the FBI. 43 00:01:46,594 --> 00:01:49,422 She worked gangs, crimes against children, 44 00:01:49,466 --> 00:01:51,686 as well as human and drug trafficking. 45 00:01:51,729 --> 00:01:53,688 Kottis was the supervisor 46 00:01:53,731 --> 00:01:55,864 of the FBI's Threat Response Squad, 47 00:01:55,907 --> 00:01:57,561 overseeing the Bureau's response 48 00:01:57,605 --> 00:02:00,521 to terrorism threats in New York City. 49 00:02:03,741 --> 00:02:05,917 So the Beltway Snipers, 50 00:02:05,961 --> 00:02:08,354 what was your job when this was unfolding? 51 00:02:08,398 --> 00:02:09,660 Where were you? What was happening? 52 00:02:09,704 --> 00:02:11,227 I was working cold case homicides 53 00:02:11,270 --> 00:02:13,838 in the Washington DC/Virginia area. 54 00:02:13,882 --> 00:02:16,885 And when the first shooting happened... 55 00:02:19,844 --> 00:02:23,500 A 55-year-old man shot in a supermarket parking lot. 56 00:02:27,330 --> 00:02:29,637 James Martin shot Wednesday night. 57 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,813 It was in Maryland. 58 00:02:31,856 --> 00:02:33,466 No one thought that it was going to evolve 59 00:02:33,510 --> 00:02:35,425 into the major case that it evolved in. 60 00:02:35,468 --> 00:02:39,168 Melissa Thomas joined the FBI in 1991, 61 00:02:39,211 --> 00:02:42,258 working with the Gang Task Force in San Diego. 62 00:02:42,301 --> 00:02:44,173 She later joined the Counterterrorism Squad 63 00:02:44,216 --> 00:02:45,827 in Washington DC 64 00:02:45,870 --> 00:02:48,481 and the Behavioral Analysis Department at Quantico. 65 00:02:48,525 --> 00:02:51,267 She eventually transferred to International Operations 66 00:02:51,310 --> 00:02:54,313 in Rome where she retired in 2014. 67 00:02:54,357 --> 00:02:56,620 The DC/Maryland/Virginia area, we have a lot-- 68 00:02:56,664 --> 00:02:59,667 unfortunately a lot of violent crime. 69 00:02:59,710 --> 00:03:01,320 That was the Baltimore division. 70 00:03:01,364 --> 00:03:03,105 Washington field office was not involved. 71 00:03:03,148 --> 00:03:04,802 And then another shooting happened. 72 00:03:04,846 --> 00:03:06,891 Just after 7:00 this morning, 73 00:03:06,935 --> 00:03:09,067 a man killed as he mowed a lawn. 74 00:03:09,111 --> 00:03:11,156 James "Sonny" Buchanan killed 75 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:12,723 behind the Fitzgerald Auto Mall. 76 00:03:12,767 --> 00:03:14,638 And then another shooting happened. 77 00:03:14,682 --> 00:03:17,206 A cab driver gunned down at a gas station. 78 00:03:20,513 --> 00:03:22,820 Later, a woman shot as she sat on a bench 79 00:03:22,864 --> 00:03:24,648 outside a post office. 80 00:03:24,692 --> 00:03:25,997 It came from right up there. 81 00:03:26,041 --> 00:03:27,433 And another woman vacuuming out 82 00:03:27,477 --> 00:03:29,653 the back of her car in a gas station. 83 00:03:29,697 --> 00:03:32,090 All were killed by a single shot. 84 00:03:32,134 --> 00:03:33,701 So far, no one has been connected 85 00:03:33,744 --> 00:03:34,919 to the killing spree. 86 00:03:34,963 --> 00:03:36,791 It became very apparent 87 00:03:36,834 --> 00:03:38,880 that something very sinister was going on. 88 00:03:38,923 --> 00:03:42,840 Our homicide rate just increased by 25% in one day. 89 00:03:46,322 --> 00:03:51,501 When did the FBI and investigators realize 90 00:03:51,544 --> 00:03:54,069 that these shootings may be connected? 91 00:03:54,112 --> 00:03:56,071 Very early on. ATF took the lead 92 00:03:56,114 --> 00:03:59,161 on the ballistics analysis, 93 00:03:59,204 --> 00:04:00,466 and they quickly identified that it was 94 00:04:00,510 --> 00:04:01,729 coming from the same weapon. 95 00:04:05,733 --> 00:04:08,344 We strongly feel that all of these are connected. 96 00:04:08,387 --> 00:04:11,216 The weaponry seems to be very similar. 97 00:04:11,260 --> 00:04:14,089 That does heighten our concern. 98 00:04:14,132 --> 00:04:16,047 It's a year after 9/11, 99 00:04:16,091 --> 00:04:19,747 so our investigative brains start clicking. 100 00:04:19,790 --> 00:04:24,229 Is this another terrorist out there shooting Americans? 101 00:04:24,273 --> 00:04:26,014 Now you don't know if it's an act of terrorism 102 00:04:26,057 --> 00:04:27,450 or if it's just some nut out there 103 00:04:27,493 --> 00:04:28,799 running around shooting people. 104 00:04:28,843 --> 00:04:30,758 Well, I had to get gas today at a gas station, 105 00:04:30,801 --> 00:04:33,195 and I'm scareder than I've ever been in my life. 106 00:04:33,238 --> 00:04:35,501 None of the victims had anything in common 107 00:04:35,545 --> 00:04:38,243 other than the fact that they were just going out, 108 00:04:38,287 --> 00:04:40,724 doing what they do on an average day. 109 00:04:40,768 --> 00:04:43,640 Baltimore was taking the lead for the FBI, 110 00:04:43,684 --> 00:04:45,990 working in conjunction with Montgomery County. 111 00:04:46,034 --> 00:04:49,254 But we had our finger kind of in the pie, 112 00:04:49,298 --> 00:04:52,518 because we wanna know, do you all need any help? 113 00:04:52,562 --> 00:04:54,346 We have called in other resources. 114 00:04:54,390 --> 00:04:56,653 We have members of the Secret Service, 115 00:04:56,697 --> 00:04:58,481 FBI, Maryland State Police. 116 00:04:59,917 --> 00:05:01,876 I was sitting in the office, 117 00:05:01,919 --> 00:05:05,444 and got a call from Montgomery County SWAT. 118 00:05:05,488 --> 00:05:07,142 They said, we don't know what we have yet, 119 00:05:07,185 --> 00:05:09,100 but we may need you to come down. 120 00:05:09,144 --> 00:05:11,537 For us at that time, this was brand-new. 121 00:05:11,581 --> 00:05:14,671 We had never faced anything like this. 122 00:05:14,715 --> 00:05:18,240 Keith Runk joined the Maryland State Police in 1986, 123 00:05:18,283 --> 00:05:20,329 serving as a SWAT commander 124 00:05:20,372 --> 00:05:23,680 and assistant commander of the Special Operations Division. 125 00:05:23,724 --> 00:05:26,161 Today, he's the lead instructor 126 00:05:26,204 --> 00:05:29,338 for civilian response to active shooter incidents. 127 00:05:29,381 --> 00:05:31,775 On the second day, we got the call that they needed help, 128 00:05:31,819 --> 00:05:36,649 so we went down to Montgomery County, 129 00:05:36,693 --> 00:05:39,783 where the tactical operations were working out of. 130 00:05:39,827 --> 00:05:41,132 And, Whit, did you have the same thing? 131 00:05:41,176 --> 00:05:42,481 You got the call? It was a couple days 132 00:05:42,525 --> 00:05:45,223 after Keith and his guys got involved. 133 00:05:45,267 --> 00:05:48,487 Whit Darnell spent 30 years in law enforcement, 134 00:05:48,531 --> 00:05:51,316 beginning his career at a state agency in Tennessee 135 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,449 before joining the FBI, 136 00:05:53,492 --> 00:05:55,886 where he served on the Hostage Rescue Team. 137 00:05:55,930 --> 00:05:57,018 Chief Moose had asked 138 00:05:57,061 --> 00:05:58,454 for help from the federal government. 139 00:05:58,497 --> 00:06:00,586 Because of the magnitude of the investigation, 140 00:06:00,630 --> 00:06:03,720 I am writing to the attorney general 141 00:06:03,764 --> 00:06:06,767 to initiate a formal request for assistance. 142 00:06:06,810 --> 00:06:08,159 I give him a lot of credit 143 00:06:08,203 --> 00:06:10,509 because he didn't just say, I need help. 144 00:06:10,553 --> 00:06:12,990 He did an official request for FBI assets, 145 00:06:13,034 --> 00:06:14,949 which means that, under the serial killer act, 146 00:06:14,992 --> 00:06:16,298 the FBI was able to get involved. 147 00:06:19,388 --> 00:06:23,653 They put us out just kind of patrolling at first. 148 00:06:23,696 --> 00:06:24,828 Everyone that was available went. 149 00:06:24,872 --> 00:06:26,177 The serial sniper 150 00:06:26,221 --> 00:06:27,962 terrorizing suburban Washington, 151 00:06:28,005 --> 00:06:30,355 defying one of the most massive manhunts 152 00:06:30,399 --> 00:06:31,704 in the nation's history. 153 00:06:31,748 --> 00:06:33,663 We broke the team down into two shifts. 154 00:06:33,706 --> 00:06:34,838 We had day a shift 155 00:06:34,882 --> 00:06:36,492 and an afternoon/evening night shift. 156 00:06:36,535 --> 00:06:38,886 The whole region was just gripped by fear, 157 00:06:38,929 --> 00:06:42,803 and it was up to us in law enforcement to stop it. 158 00:06:42,846 --> 00:06:45,414 As morning approaches, there is a growing sense of dread. 159 00:06:45,457 --> 00:06:48,069 About 7:04, the sniper is still at large. 160 00:06:48,112 --> 00:06:50,549 Fears that the killing spree is not over 161 00:06:50,593 --> 00:06:52,900 are underscored by two more shootings. 162 00:06:52,943 --> 00:06:54,858 72-year-old Pascal Charlot 163 00:06:54,902 --> 00:06:56,251 was killed crossing the street. 164 00:06:56,294 --> 00:06:57,861 A woman was shot and wounded 165 00:06:57,905 --> 00:06:59,428 at a suburban shopping mall 166 00:06:59,471 --> 00:07:02,431 about 60 miles southwest of Montgomery County. 167 00:07:02,474 --> 00:07:03,998 If a shooting happened, 168 00:07:04,041 --> 00:07:06,391 the patrol would try to go in and triangulate 169 00:07:06,435 --> 00:07:08,829 and cordon that area off and set up roadblocks, 170 00:07:08,872 --> 00:07:10,134 especially at a major interstate, 171 00:07:10,178 --> 00:07:11,657 on-ramps or off-ramps 172 00:07:11,701 --> 00:07:13,529 that they could have easily used to get away. 173 00:07:15,879 --> 00:07:17,446 And that big law enforcement machine 174 00:07:17,489 --> 00:07:20,231 that was involved is running leads. 175 00:07:20,275 --> 00:07:23,495 And they're getting thousands of tips a day 176 00:07:23,539 --> 00:07:24,714 that they've gotta sort through. 177 00:07:29,284 --> 00:07:32,026 Call our tip line at 1-888... 178 00:07:32,069 --> 00:07:34,898 324-9800. 179 00:07:34,942 --> 00:07:37,074 The tip line was stood up overnight. 180 00:07:38,946 --> 00:07:41,774 We had approximately 50 lines in a room, 181 00:07:41,818 --> 00:07:43,559 eight-hour shifts. 182 00:07:43,602 --> 00:07:45,778 That tip line was covered 24/7. 183 00:07:45,822 --> 00:07:48,694 They would triage the tips that would come in, 184 00:07:48,738 --> 00:07:51,872 and then I would review those tips after 185 00:07:51,915 --> 00:07:54,439 and decide, okay, this looks like interesting information. 186 00:07:54,483 --> 00:07:55,658 We'll send it up to the command post. 187 00:08:00,271 --> 00:08:04,319 Every morning, I would get in 5:30, 6:00, 188 00:08:04,362 --> 00:08:06,799 and I would start reviewing tips. 189 00:08:06,843 --> 00:08:11,630 And by then, we had the white van lead coming in. 190 00:08:11,674 --> 00:08:12,936 Gotten several reports 191 00:08:12,980 --> 00:08:14,938 of a white van being seen in the area. 192 00:08:14,982 --> 00:08:18,550 We have a lookout for a cream-colored Astro van. 193 00:08:18,594 --> 00:08:21,423 Can't tell you how many thousands of tips 194 00:08:21,466 --> 00:08:26,036 we had called in about white box trucks and white vans. 195 00:08:33,435 --> 00:08:35,567 We had no license plate, really no make and model 196 00:08:35,611 --> 00:08:37,047 other than that. 197 00:08:37,091 --> 00:08:38,962 All day, police have been stopping 198 00:08:39,006 --> 00:08:41,530 and searching every white truck in sight. 199 00:08:41,573 --> 00:08:44,228 You had to look into every single one of them. 200 00:08:44,272 --> 00:08:46,056 And every one was suspect 201 00:08:46,100 --> 00:08:48,189 because that's what we had to go off of. 202 00:08:48,232 --> 00:08:51,888 That created a monster like you cannot even believe. 203 00:08:55,848 --> 00:08:58,329 95 North, 95 South, 204 00:08:58,373 --> 00:09:00,462 in the middle of Washington, DC, 205 00:09:00,505 --> 00:09:02,377 shut down for hours. 206 00:09:08,122 --> 00:09:09,993 It was a nightmare. 207 00:09:10,037 --> 00:09:11,734 The dragnet was very, very quick. 208 00:09:11,777 --> 00:09:13,997 I actually got caught up in it trying to get here. 209 00:09:14,041 --> 00:09:15,520 What we didn't know at the time 210 00:09:15,564 --> 00:09:18,523 was there's probably 500,000 white panel vans 211 00:09:18,567 --> 00:09:20,699 driving around that area at any given time. 212 00:09:20,743 --> 00:09:23,006 Thank you. 213 00:09:23,050 --> 00:09:24,312 It got to the point where the drivers were like, 214 00:09:24,355 --> 00:09:26,879 hey, I was just stopped five minutes ago. 215 00:09:26,923 --> 00:09:28,707 I think this is the fifth or sixth time, 216 00:09:28,751 --> 00:09:30,187 maybe the seventh time I've been stopped. 217 00:09:32,102 --> 00:09:34,844 And it wasn't like a typical traffic stop 218 00:09:34,887 --> 00:09:36,193 where you walk up and you're like, 219 00:09:36,237 --> 00:09:38,152 hey, I need to see your license and registration. 220 00:09:38,195 --> 00:09:39,240 - Yeah. - Stopped you for speeding. 221 00:09:39,283 --> 00:09:40,850 We approached with guns out. 222 00:09:45,072 --> 00:09:47,857 We definitely felt that if we engaged these guys, 223 00:09:47,900 --> 00:09:49,119 it was gonna end in a shoot-out. 224 00:09:52,166 --> 00:09:53,776 So Melissa, when do we start getting 225 00:09:53,819 --> 00:09:55,125 some breaks in the investigation? 226 00:09:55,169 --> 00:09:56,735 Anything found that was specific 227 00:09:56,779 --> 00:09:58,868 that you could use with your team? 228 00:09:58,911 --> 00:10:01,958 The school shooting in Bowie, Maryland, 229 00:10:02,002 --> 00:10:04,395 a 13-year-old boy was shot. 230 00:10:04,439 --> 00:10:06,658 The serial sniper has struck again. 231 00:10:06,702 --> 00:10:10,923 This time, for the first time, the victim is a child, 232 00:10:10,967 --> 00:10:13,578 a child who tonight is fighting for his life. 233 00:10:14,579 --> 00:10:16,190 That's just a whole 'nother level 234 00:10:16,233 --> 00:10:18,496 of sick, demented terrorist. 235 00:10:18,540 --> 00:10:21,847 No one shoots an innocent child coming out of school. 236 00:10:21,891 --> 00:10:23,632 It makes you angry. 237 00:10:23,675 --> 00:10:24,763 It pisses you off. 238 00:10:24,807 --> 00:10:27,723 We don't have more to go on. 239 00:10:27,766 --> 00:10:29,594 There was a note left at the crime scene 240 00:10:29,638 --> 00:10:31,466 at the elementary school, 241 00:10:31,509 --> 00:10:32,467 a tarot card. 242 00:10:34,643 --> 00:10:38,212 The tarot card is the one that depicts death. 243 00:10:38,255 --> 00:10:41,432 People started trying to decipher the tarot card. 244 00:10:41,476 --> 00:10:43,608 What does it mean? It's a death card. 245 00:10:43,652 --> 00:10:45,523 People started talking to psychics, 246 00:10:45,567 --> 00:10:47,177 talking to mediums. 247 00:10:47,221 --> 00:10:49,223 It is a frightening symbol. 248 00:10:49,266 --> 00:10:50,528 What's the message? 249 00:10:50,572 --> 00:10:51,399 And there was a message written on there. 250 00:10:53,618 --> 00:10:55,359 "Call me God." 251 00:10:57,144 --> 00:10:58,841 Gave me a little picture, we're dealing 252 00:10:58,884 --> 00:11:01,931 with this psychotic individual way outside the norm 253 00:11:01,974 --> 00:11:04,542 of human thinking and ethics and morals. 254 00:11:08,329 --> 00:11:10,418 The sniper is still at large. 255 00:11:10,461 --> 00:11:13,029 And the case has now entered its second week, 256 00:11:13,073 --> 00:11:16,598 and this evening, the sniper or snipers has struck again. 257 00:11:16,641 --> 00:11:18,861 Myers was just making a quick trip 258 00:11:18,904 --> 00:11:20,515 to a Virginia gas station 259 00:11:20,558 --> 00:11:22,386 when he was shot in the head. 260 00:11:22,430 --> 00:11:24,258 They were canceling outdoor events. 261 00:11:24,301 --> 00:11:25,911 - Yeah. - They were telling people 262 00:11:25,955 --> 00:11:28,566 not to go out, be alert. 263 00:11:28,610 --> 00:11:31,352 It changed the way people operated. 264 00:11:31,395 --> 00:11:33,484 I'm very nervous, you know. 265 00:11:33,528 --> 00:11:35,878 - We're scared to come to work. - Everyone is frightened. 266 00:11:35,921 --> 00:11:37,923 This happened again, and like the other shootings, 267 00:11:37,967 --> 00:11:39,360 the killer got away. 268 00:11:39,403 --> 00:11:41,231 No afternoon kindergarten Montgomery County, 269 00:11:41,275 --> 00:11:43,973 outdoor school activities suspended. 270 00:11:44,016 --> 00:11:46,193 For the first time in 56 years, 271 00:11:46,236 --> 00:11:48,630 there will be no bands, no floats, 272 00:11:48,673 --> 00:11:51,285 no kids dressed in their Halloween costumes. 273 00:11:51,328 --> 00:11:54,853 People pumping gas crouching down beside their cars. 274 00:11:54,897 --> 00:11:56,159 They would, you know, put a little bit in, 275 00:11:56,203 --> 00:11:57,595 and they would get out of there. 276 00:11:57,639 --> 00:11:59,336 Gas stations putting big blue tarps up 277 00:11:59,380 --> 00:12:01,512 to hide people, give them a little bit of concealment 278 00:12:01,556 --> 00:12:03,253 while they were pumping gas, things like that. 279 00:12:03,297 --> 00:12:04,820 Not having a pattern. 280 00:12:04,863 --> 00:12:08,432 Not knowing who, what, why-- 281 00:12:08,476 --> 00:12:09,868 the why of why this was happening. 282 00:12:09,912 --> 00:12:11,653 We were all in fear of our life 283 00:12:11,696 --> 00:12:13,829 living in that area at the time. 284 00:12:13,872 --> 00:12:17,137 And then when we found out Linda Franklin had been shot, 285 00:12:17,180 --> 00:12:19,313 that ramped it up another notch. 286 00:12:19,356 --> 00:12:21,228 Linda Franklin was a wife, a mother, 287 00:12:21,271 --> 00:12:24,448 and an FBI employee. 288 00:12:24,492 --> 00:12:26,624 Her life ended inside a Home Depot 289 00:12:26,668 --> 00:12:28,365 parking garage last night. 290 00:12:40,638 --> 00:12:42,640 Not only did we have this chaos going on 291 00:12:42,684 --> 00:12:44,686 outside of our offices, 292 00:12:44,729 --> 00:12:48,211 but now here was our own family member. 293 00:12:48,255 --> 00:12:50,126 I did not feel protected. 294 00:12:50,170 --> 00:12:51,649 It was just fear. 295 00:13:00,136 --> 00:13:02,443 No one has seen the face of the killer 296 00:13:02,486 --> 00:13:05,315 or even has a firm description of the getaway vehicle. 297 00:13:05,359 --> 00:13:07,012 When does the next big break come? 298 00:13:07,056 --> 00:13:10,102 After the shooting in Hanover County 299 00:13:10,146 --> 00:13:11,582 in Ashland at the Ponderosa. 300 00:13:15,673 --> 00:13:17,719 A man and his wife were walking from the restaurant 301 00:13:17,762 --> 00:13:19,590 to their car when she heard 302 00:13:19,634 --> 00:13:21,375 what sounded like a car backfiring. 303 00:13:21,418 --> 00:13:23,246 Her husband took about three steps 304 00:13:23,290 --> 00:13:25,205 and then began to collapse in the parking lot. 305 00:13:25,248 --> 00:13:26,684 Thankfully, the victim survived. 306 00:13:26,728 --> 00:13:30,558 The crime scene search revealed not only a shell casing, 307 00:13:30,601 --> 00:13:33,909 but there was also a note tacked to a tree. 308 00:13:33,952 --> 00:13:35,824 It was found in a little Halloween bag, 309 00:13:35,867 --> 00:13:38,435 and it had stars on it. 310 00:13:38,479 --> 00:13:41,133 It was a very bizarre note, if you will. 311 00:13:41,177 --> 00:13:42,265 Childlike, to me. 312 00:13:42,309 --> 00:13:44,267 There were demands for money 313 00:13:44,311 --> 00:13:47,227 and information that they were going to call 314 00:13:47,270 --> 00:13:48,837 these phones at a certain time. 315 00:13:52,188 --> 00:13:54,756 But we had already missed that deadline. 316 00:13:54,799 --> 00:13:56,888 To the person who left us a message 317 00:13:56,932 --> 00:13:58,629 at the Ponderosa last night, 318 00:13:58,673 --> 00:14:01,545 we do want to talk to you. 319 00:14:01,589 --> 00:14:04,592 Call us at the number you provided. 320 00:14:04,635 --> 00:14:08,117 It also referred to children. 321 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,424 What did it say about children? 322 00:14:10,467 --> 00:14:13,470 It is in the form of a postscript. 323 00:14:15,429 --> 00:14:21,391 "Your children are not safe anywhere at any time." 324 00:14:21,435 --> 00:14:22,436 Wow. 325 00:14:22,479 --> 00:14:23,480 And it was like, 326 00:14:23,524 --> 00:14:25,787 oh, my God, now what? 327 00:14:30,879 --> 00:14:33,185 And they referred to a priest that was called 328 00:14:33,229 --> 00:14:36,319 in Ashland in Virginia. 329 00:14:36,363 --> 00:14:38,974 And that priest told us that, 330 00:14:39,017 --> 00:14:41,193 yeah, he had received this really weird phone call 331 00:14:41,237 --> 00:14:44,109 talking about a shooting in Montgomery. 332 00:14:44,153 --> 00:14:47,809 And from the information that the priest provided, 333 00:14:47,852 --> 00:14:49,550 the caller to the priest was not talking 334 00:14:49,593 --> 00:14:51,987 about Montgomery County, Maryland. 335 00:14:52,030 --> 00:14:54,294 He was talking about Montgomery, Alabama. 336 00:14:57,166 --> 00:14:59,864 Somebody picked up the phone and called Montgomery, Alabama, 337 00:14:59,908 --> 00:15:01,388 and said, do you have any unsolved shootings 338 00:15:01,431 --> 00:15:02,954 that we could look at? 339 00:15:02,998 --> 00:15:04,739 The response back from Montgomery, Alabama, 340 00:15:04,782 --> 00:15:06,915 was, oh, yeah, we do. 341 00:15:06,958 --> 00:15:08,699 On September the 21st, 342 00:15:08,743 --> 00:15:11,006 one Alabama State Liquor Board employee was killed 343 00:15:11,049 --> 00:15:13,225 and another wounded by a single gunman 344 00:15:13,269 --> 00:15:15,402 in the parking lot outside their store. 345 00:15:15,445 --> 00:15:17,447 And they had a magazine, 346 00:15:17,491 --> 00:15:20,145 and I mean a magazine like a periodical. 347 00:15:20,189 --> 00:15:21,277 But it had a fingerprint on it. 348 00:15:23,018 --> 00:15:25,542 The fingerprint from the magazine was identified 349 00:15:25,586 --> 00:15:27,283 to Lee Boyd Malvo. 350 00:15:29,590 --> 00:15:32,070 Malvo was 17 years old, 351 00:15:32,114 --> 00:15:34,464 a Jamaican citizen. 352 00:15:34,508 --> 00:15:37,467 Okay. What's his background? 353 00:15:37,511 --> 00:15:40,296 And things started to get put together. 354 00:15:40,340 --> 00:15:42,211 There was a tip that had come in 355 00:15:42,254 --> 00:15:45,475 to our Seattle division from someone who said, 356 00:15:45,519 --> 00:15:50,567 listen, I am a friend of John Muhammad. 357 00:15:50,611 --> 00:15:52,569 And I know that he's traveling around the country 358 00:15:52,613 --> 00:15:57,139 with a younger man, who his nickname is Sniper. 359 00:15:57,182 --> 00:16:00,142 And he said John Muhammad's ex-wife lived 360 00:16:00,185 --> 00:16:02,318 in the DC area with their children. 361 00:16:02,362 --> 00:16:05,190 And he told us that John Muhammad 362 00:16:05,234 --> 00:16:09,891 used to target practice in a backyard with a rifle. 363 00:16:09,934 --> 00:16:13,503 And then we quickly find out that Malvo's mother 364 00:16:13,547 --> 00:16:15,331 had met John Muhammad in the Caribbean. 365 00:16:18,116 --> 00:16:20,205 And so it was like, oh, okay, 366 00:16:20,249 --> 00:16:21,990 this probably is Lee Boyd Malvo, 367 00:16:22,033 --> 00:16:24,819 and he probably is traveling with John Muhammad. 368 00:16:24,862 --> 00:16:26,516 Background information on John Muhammad 369 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,518 was that he was former Army, 370 00:16:28,562 --> 00:16:31,434 had been stationed in Washington. 371 00:16:31,478 --> 00:16:34,263 Quickly ran down information about his ex-wife, 372 00:16:34,306 --> 00:16:35,917 where they lived. 373 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:37,309 Your head would spin 374 00:16:37,353 --> 00:16:40,051 how fast this information was coming in. 375 00:16:40,095 --> 00:16:42,314 Do we have a vehicle associated with them? 376 00:16:42,358 --> 00:16:44,012 They weren't driving a white box truck. 377 00:16:44,055 --> 00:16:46,318 We quickly found out that John Muhammad was registered 378 00:16:46,362 --> 00:16:50,235 to an older model Chevy Caprice 379 00:16:50,279 --> 00:16:51,759 that had New Jersey license plates. 380 00:16:54,022 --> 00:16:56,372 So we have the vehicle, and we have the license plates. 381 00:16:56,416 --> 00:16:58,679 A federal arrest warrant has been issued 382 00:16:58,722 --> 00:17:02,291 for John Allen Muhammad, a Black male, 42 years of age. 383 00:17:02,334 --> 00:17:04,380 He may be in the company of a juvenile. 384 00:17:04,424 --> 00:17:06,687 They are also looking for a vehicle 385 00:17:06,730 --> 00:17:08,645 which these two are believed to be driving, 386 00:17:08,689 --> 00:17:11,822 a 1990 Chevy Caprice, New Jersey license plates, 387 00:17:11,866 --> 00:17:15,391 NDA-21Z. 388 00:17:18,394 --> 00:17:21,789 Within hours, we had someone whose commute took him 389 00:17:21,832 --> 00:17:25,009 along I-70 in northwestern Maryland. 390 00:17:25,053 --> 00:17:26,881 He decided to pull over to take a break. 391 00:17:26,924 --> 00:17:29,057 And because he heard that BOLO, 392 00:17:29,100 --> 00:17:30,754 he was like, oh, my God, 393 00:17:30,798 --> 00:17:32,495 there's this car right here. 394 00:17:48,685 --> 00:17:53,342 The information was not even 12 hours old. 395 00:17:53,385 --> 00:17:55,779 I mean, it was happening so fast. 396 00:17:57,433 --> 00:17:59,479 And they said to stop what you're doing 397 00:17:59,522 --> 00:18:01,002 and head up to the rest stop. 398 00:18:01,045 --> 00:18:04,005 Helicopter was waiting. We lifted off, 399 00:18:04,048 --> 00:18:06,616 and we started our planning what we're gonna do. 400 00:18:09,706 --> 00:18:12,013 They had shut 70 down in both directions. 401 00:18:12,056 --> 00:18:14,537 So there was no traffic moving. 402 00:18:14,581 --> 00:18:17,235 Staging area was two or three miles 403 00:18:17,279 --> 00:18:18,672 from the rest stop. 404 00:18:18,715 --> 00:18:20,674 Once we got there, we got the verbal briefing 405 00:18:20,717 --> 00:18:23,894 from Keith and the other leadership. 406 00:18:23,938 --> 00:18:26,723 So the idea was to smash the windows out of the car, 407 00:18:26,767 --> 00:18:28,682 speed, surprise, violence of action. 408 00:18:28,725 --> 00:18:30,814 Overwhelm them with force and surprise 409 00:18:30,858 --> 00:18:32,207 and hopefully win the day. 410 00:18:35,253 --> 00:18:36,864 We'd park on the side of the interstate, 411 00:18:36,907 --> 00:18:39,649 and we had to basically climb up a grassy hill 412 00:18:39,693 --> 00:18:42,609 into the wood line to approach the car from the rear. 413 00:18:42,652 --> 00:18:44,480 And the car was backed in. 414 00:18:44,524 --> 00:18:47,918 It was approximately 20 yards of open space 415 00:18:47,962 --> 00:18:50,051 between the wood line and the back of the car. 416 00:18:50,094 --> 00:18:52,706 We really felt that we were going into a shoot-out. 417 00:18:52,749 --> 00:18:54,490 That's what we were gearing up for. 418 00:18:54,534 --> 00:18:56,448 We came out single file. We split. 419 00:18:59,234 --> 00:19:02,237 We sprinted from the wood line to the back of the car 420 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,022 fully expecting the shots to start at any moment. 421 00:19:05,066 --> 00:19:07,068 The car had very dark tinted windows, 422 00:19:07,111 --> 00:19:09,853 so we really couldn't see inside. 423 00:19:09,897 --> 00:19:11,812 I went to the passenger side of the car. 424 00:19:11,855 --> 00:19:15,598 My job was to breach out the rear window, which I did. 425 00:19:18,166 --> 00:19:20,472 As soon as I did, my partner and I looked in, 426 00:19:20,516 --> 00:19:22,823 and Muhammad was in the back seat setting up, 427 00:19:22,866 --> 00:19:24,172 and his eyes were about this big. 428 00:19:25,869 --> 00:19:27,131 And we gave him commands, 429 00:19:27,175 --> 00:19:28,655 put your hands up, which he did. 430 00:19:28,698 --> 00:19:30,352 And he's sitting there like a deer in the headlights. 431 00:19:30,395 --> 00:19:32,180 So I reached in, grabbed him by the wrist, 432 00:19:32,223 --> 00:19:35,357 and just as hard as I could pulled him through the window. 433 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:36,750 Simultaneously, this is going on 434 00:19:36,793 --> 00:19:38,839 with Malvo in the front seat. 435 00:19:40,144 --> 00:19:43,060 It's like being sucked out by a huge vacuum. 436 00:19:43,104 --> 00:19:44,453 So once you had them cuffed, 437 00:19:44,496 --> 00:19:45,802 did they try to talk to each other? 438 00:19:45,846 --> 00:19:47,108 Did they look at each other? 439 00:19:47,151 --> 00:19:48,239 We kept them separated 440 00:19:48,283 --> 00:19:49,763 on opposite sides of the vehicle. 441 00:19:49,806 --> 00:19:51,547 Muhammad was very quiet, never said a word. 442 00:19:51,591 --> 00:19:53,244 Malvo, was he chatty or no? 443 00:19:53,288 --> 00:19:55,246 They didn't say a word. 444 00:19:55,290 --> 00:19:57,074 The one thing that stands out to me 445 00:19:57,118 --> 00:20:00,121 is that they just had that blank, unemotional stare. 446 00:20:03,864 --> 00:20:05,648 Their eyes said it all. 447 00:20:05,692 --> 00:20:07,737 They knew the gig was up. 448 00:20:09,652 --> 00:20:10,871 During that whole three weeks, 449 00:20:10,914 --> 00:20:12,437 even at the point of takedown, 450 00:20:12,481 --> 00:20:14,352 I don't think we realized 451 00:20:14,396 --> 00:20:16,659 that they were shooting from the back of that trunk. 452 00:20:23,666 --> 00:20:28,018 I remember my blood just going cold because, 453 00:20:28,062 --> 00:20:32,762 had they been on watch and been in that position, 454 00:20:32,806 --> 00:20:34,155 they would have had the jump on us, 455 00:20:34,198 --> 00:20:35,809 and we would have had no idea. 456 00:20:39,029 --> 00:20:40,988 Good evening. It's over. They got 'em. 457 00:20:41,031 --> 00:20:43,947 A joint tactical SWAT team of federal, state, 458 00:20:43,991 --> 00:20:46,863 and local police captured 41-year-old John Muhammad 459 00:20:46,907 --> 00:20:49,257 and 17-year-old John Lee Malvo, 460 00:20:49,300 --> 00:20:52,434 suspects in the sniper shooting. 461 00:20:52,477 --> 00:20:53,696 Now our work has started, 462 00:20:53,740 --> 00:20:55,698 because now we've got to figure out 463 00:20:55,742 --> 00:20:57,482 how to convict them so that they never see 464 00:20:57,526 --> 00:20:59,528 the light of day anymore. 465 00:20:59,571 --> 00:21:03,010 Well, we wanted to find out the story. 466 00:21:03,053 --> 00:21:04,533 You know, how did these two meet? 467 00:21:06,448 --> 00:21:10,191 Malvo lived with Muhammad and his children in the Caribbean. 468 00:21:10,234 --> 00:21:12,062 Muhammad had taken his children there-- 469 00:21:12,106 --> 00:21:13,760 illegally because he was going 470 00:21:13,803 --> 00:21:15,413 through a divorce with the wife. 471 00:21:17,111 --> 00:21:20,549 That leads us to the why of all this 472 00:21:20,592 --> 00:21:23,552 that we have been looking for. 473 00:21:23,595 --> 00:21:26,337 John Muhammad had to give his children back to his wife. 474 00:21:26,381 --> 00:21:28,470 She took them to live in Maryland. 475 00:21:28,513 --> 00:21:30,428 He was not seeing his children. 476 00:21:30,472 --> 00:21:32,561 That is our motive, unbelievably enough, 477 00:21:32,604 --> 00:21:35,607 that he was just furious 478 00:21:35,651 --> 00:21:37,000 that he couldn't see his kids, 479 00:21:37,044 --> 00:21:39,089 and eventually wanted to kill his ex-wife 480 00:21:39,133 --> 00:21:40,874 and get his children back. 481 00:21:42,614 --> 00:21:44,486 Muhammad started his shooting spree 482 00:21:44,529 --> 00:21:46,618 to try to blend her in 483 00:21:46,662 --> 00:21:48,664 as just one of the unfortunate victims. 484 00:21:48,708 --> 00:21:50,971 If he killed various people, 485 00:21:51,014 --> 00:21:52,973 it wouldn't get right back, you know, that maybe 486 00:21:53,016 --> 00:21:54,844 it was the ex-husband that killed the wife. 487 00:21:54,888 --> 00:21:57,673 You know, he's not a natural-thinking human. 488 00:22:00,807 --> 00:22:02,939 Good evening. With a possible death penalty 489 00:22:02,983 --> 00:22:05,899 looming if he is convicted, the first defendant on trial 490 00:22:05,942 --> 00:22:08,858 in the DC area serial sniper case 491 00:22:08,902 --> 00:22:10,817 pulled a last-minute surprise today. 492 00:22:10,860 --> 00:22:12,688 Part that amazed all of us was, 493 00:22:12,732 --> 00:22:14,081 he wanted to represent himself. 494 00:22:15,735 --> 00:22:17,824 This is a capital murder case, 495 00:22:17,867 --> 00:22:19,303 you're facing the death penalty, 496 00:22:19,347 --> 00:22:21,610 you're not a lawyer, and you say, 497 00:22:21,653 --> 00:22:24,004 I'm gonna represent myself because I know better 498 00:22:24,047 --> 00:22:27,311 than anybody else, because that was who he is--he was. 499 00:22:27,355 --> 00:22:30,184 A psychologist might say this is a death wish for him. 500 00:22:30,227 --> 00:22:33,622 Muhammad will also be able to face down his accusers, 501 00:22:33,665 --> 00:22:36,886 including survivors, and that is a chilling prospect 502 00:22:36,930 --> 00:22:40,847 for those who were terrorized around this time last year. 503 00:22:40,890 --> 00:22:43,240 For me personally, I've never been cross-examined 504 00:22:43,284 --> 00:22:44,589 by a subject of one of my case. 505 00:22:44,633 --> 00:22:46,809 And he--he did. He cross-examined me 506 00:22:46,853 --> 00:22:49,159 after I testified for the prosecution, 507 00:22:49,203 --> 00:22:51,161 and he asked me just basic question. 508 00:22:52,859 --> 00:22:55,383 And whether it was an HRT guy, 509 00:22:55,426 --> 00:22:57,777 whether it was a survivor, 510 00:22:57,820 --> 00:23:00,127 or whether it was a family member, 511 00:23:00,170 --> 00:23:02,259 he didn't get any satisfaction from them. 512 00:23:02,303 --> 00:23:04,958 They answered his questions, 513 00:23:05,001 --> 00:23:08,048 and they didn't break down and cry in front of him, 514 00:23:08,091 --> 00:23:10,790 and I think that's probably something he was looking for. 515 00:23:32,289 --> 00:23:34,248 I was very proud just to have been a part of it. 516 00:23:34,291 --> 00:23:35,858 I also felt lucky, 517 00:23:35,902 --> 00:23:37,642 because there were other guys out there like us... 518 00:23:37,686 --> 00:23:39,209 - Yeah. - And everybody wanted 519 00:23:39,253 --> 00:23:41,385 to be the ones to do the arrest 520 00:23:41,429 --> 00:23:43,300 or do the takedown, and we just happened to be 521 00:23:43,344 --> 00:23:45,825 in the right place at the right time. 522 00:23:45,868 --> 00:23:48,001 When he was given the death penalty, 523 00:23:48,044 --> 00:23:49,219 of course, you know, 524 00:23:49,263 --> 00:23:51,743 we're supposed to keep it together, right? 525 00:23:51,787 --> 00:23:56,270 But there was a investigator who turned around 526 00:23:56,313 --> 00:23:59,664 and looked at me and was just in tears, 527 00:23:59,708 --> 00:24:00,970 because that's how we felt. 528 00:24:01,014 --> 00:24:02,624 Like, okay, you know, we did it. 529 00:24:02,667 --> 00:24:05,888 We did justice for, you know, this set of victims. 530 00:24:05,932 --> 00:24:07,890 I don't know if there was a dry eye in the courtroom, 531 00:24:07,934 --> 00:24:11,111 because it was like, okay, all of this work, 532 00:24:11,154 --> 00:24:14,418 all of this emotion, not only from the investigators 533 00:24:14,462 --> 00:24:15,680 but the family members 534 00:24:15,724 --> 00:24:19,293 who courageously testified every day 535 00:24:19,336 --> 00:24:23,123 or sat in that courtroom and listened and watched. 536 00:24:23,166 --> 00:24:24,951 It felt good. 41187

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