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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,260 --> 00:00:04,480 MAN: Dr. Oppenheimer's continuing conduct and associations 2 00:00:04,700 --> 00:00:07,320 have reflected a serious disregard 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,800 for the requirements of the security system. 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:11,800 MAN: The country asked him to do something 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:13,580 and he did it brilliantly. 6 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,300 MAN: He didn't understand what sort of forces he was up against. 7 00:01:16,300 --> 00:01:19,560 (lighter snaps shut) 8 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,600 (stenotype clicking) 9 00:01:35,740 --> 00:01:37,540 GORDON GRAY, US Special Counsel: The hearing will come to order. 10 00:01:40,290 --> 00:01:42,760 Dr. J.R. Oppenheimer, 11 00:01:42,830 --> 00:01:45,300 the Institute for Advanced Study, 12 00:01:45,370 --> 00:01:46,600 Princeton, New Jersey. 13 00:01:50,710 --> 00:01:52,940 There has developed considerable question 14 00:01:53,180 --> 00:01:54,980 whether your continued employment 15 00:01:54,980 --> 00:01:58,180 on Atomic Energy Commission work is consistent 16 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,660 with the interests of the national security. 17 00:02:05,740 --> 00:02:07,520 In view of your access 18 00:02:07,590 --> 00:02:10,160 to highly sensitive classified information, 19 00:02:10,230 --> 00:02:14,260 and in view of allegations which, until disproved, 20 00:02:14,330 --> 00:02:18,070 raise questions as to your veracity, conduct, 21 00:02:18,130 --> 00:02:20,300 and even your loyalty, 22 00:02:20,370 --> 00:02:23,200 the Commission has no other recourse 23 00:02:23,270 --> 00:02:25,510 but to suspend your clearance 24 00:02:25,570 --> 00:02:28,210 until the matter has been resolved. 25 00:02:50,220 --> 00:02:53,100 NARRATOR: The hearings were held in a makeshift courtroom 26 00:02:53,100 --> 00:02:56,320 in a shabby government office in Washington, D.C. 27 00:02:56,900 --> 00:02:58,800 GORDON GRAY, US Special Counsel: It was reported that your wife, 28 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,460 Katherine Puening Oppenheimer, was a member of the Communist Party. 29 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,200 It was reported that your brother 30 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,400 Frank Friedman Oppenheimer was a member of the Communist Party. 31 00:03:10,250 --> 00:03:11,890 NARRATOR: J. Robert Oppenheimer, 32 00:03:11,950 --> 00:03:14,920 the most eminent atomic scientist in America, 33 00:03:15,220 --> 00:03:19,240 stood accused, a risk to national security. 34 00:03:21,140 --> 00:03:23,000 It was 1954. 35 00:03:23,700 --> 00:03:26,440 The cold war with Russia was fueling fears 36 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,240 of Communist infiltration 37 00:03:28,580 --> 00:03:30,500 at the highest levels of government. 38 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,000 GORDON GRAY, US Special Counsel: It was reported that you stated 39 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,560 that you were not a Communist, 40 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,000 but had probably belonged to every Communist front organization 41 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:38,950 on the West Coast 42 00:03:38,950 --> 00:03:41,000 and had signed many petitions 43 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,040 in which Communists were interested. 44 00:03:47,860 --> 00:03:51,190 NARRATOR: The news shocked Americans everywhere. 45 00:03:51,260 --> 00:03:53,460 If Robert Oppenheimer could not be trusted 46 00:03:53,530 --> 00:03:56,330 with the nation's secrets, who could be? 47 00:04:01,740 --> 00:04:05,010 Brilliant, proud, charismatic, 48 00:04:05,070 --> 00:04:07,680 a poet as well as a physicist, 49 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,620 Oppenheimer had seemed to enjoy the full trust and confidence 50 00:04:11,620 --> 00:04:13,100 of his country's leaders. 51 00:04:14,180 --> 00:04:15,860 He was a national hero, 52 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,960 the man who had led the scientific team 53 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:20,980 which devised the atomic bomb... 54 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:29,900 (explosion) 55 00:04:30,100 --> 00:04:32,970 ...the ultimate weapon of mass destruction. 56 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,760 Oppenheimer came to prominence through unspeakable violence 57 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,720 and suffered all the ambiguities and contradictions 58 00:04:45,980 --> 00:04:47,680 he had helped to create. 59 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,220 J. Robert Oppenheimer, (archival): We knew the world would not be the same. 60 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,480 A few people laughed. 61 00:04:58,260 --> 00:04:59,760 A few people cried. 62 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,220 Most people were silent. 63 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:06,680 I remembered the... 64 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,680 line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad Gita. 65 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,440 Vishnu... 66 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,340 is trying to persuade the prince that 67 00:05:21,660 --> 00:05:23,200 he should do his duty, 68 00:05:23,840 --> 00:05:26,120 and to impress him, 69 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,220 takes on his multi-armed form 70 00:05:30,300 --> 00:05:31,440 and says, 71 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,040 "Now I am become death, the destroyer of worlds." 72 00:05:38,740 --> 00:05:41,340 I suppose we all thought that one way or another. 73 00:05:46,500 --> 00:05:50,080 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: What he was trying to help the world to understand 74 00:05:50,580 --> 00:05:52,820 is that these are not weapons. 75 00:05:52,820 --> 00:05:56,420 These are forces of destruction so great 76 00:05:57,100 --> 00:05:59,800 that we finally, as a species, are in a position 77 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,160 where we can destroy the entire human world, 78 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:03,960 without question. 79 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,500 NARRATOR: As the nation's top nuclear weapons advisor, 80 00:06:07,620 --> 00:06:09,900 Oppenheimer tried to warn his countrymen 81 00:06:09,900 --> 00:06:11,170 of their dangers, 82 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,260 but powerful figures within the government feared 83 00:06:14,260 --> 00:06:16,900 he was a threat to America's security. 84 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,500 They determined to destroy him. 85 00:06:20,060 --> 00:06:21,820 MARVIN L. GOLDBERGER, Physicist: The country asked him to do something, 86 00:06:21,820 --> 00:06:23,620 and he did it brilliantly, 87 00:06:24,550 --> 00:06:26,100 and they repaid him 88 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,640 for the tremendous job he did 89 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:32,520 by breaking him. 90 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,500 ROGER ROBB, Courtroom Prosecutor: Doctor, do you think that social contacts 91 00:06:36,500 --> 00:06:39,080 between a person employed in secret war work 92 00:06:39,490 --> 00:06:42,000 and Communists or Communist adherents 93 00:06:42,540 --> 00:06:43,460 is dangerous? 94 00:06:44,100 --> 00:06:45,780 Are we talking about today? 95 00:06:45,780 --> 00:06:46,660 Yes. 96 00:06:46,900 --> 00:06:49,470 Certainly not necessarily so. 97 00:06:49,540 --> 00:06:52,010 They could conceivably be. 98 00:06:52,070 --> 00:06:55,310 Was that your view in 1943 and during the war years? 99 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,860 NARRATOR: The hearings would go on for nearly a month, 100 00:06:59,260 --> 00:07:02,400 the story of Oppenheimer's life laid bare; 101 00:07:02,580 --> 00:07:04,180 his secrets exposed; 102 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,680 his brilliance and arrogance, 103 00:07:06,860 --> 00:07:09,080 naiveté and insecurities 104 00:07:09,260 --> 00:07:12,400 debated, dissected and judged. 105 00:07:15,340 --> 00:07:17,020 A special three-man board, 106 00:07:17,020 --> 00:07:19,400 appointed by the Atomic Energy Commission, 107 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,140 would rule on the charges. 108 00:07:21,580 --> 00:07:22,840 To defend himself, 109 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,300 the embattled scientist felt compelled 110 00:07:25,300 --> 00:07:28,200 to tell his own story in his own way. 111 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,640 OPPENHEIMER: The items of so-called derogatory information 112 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,440 cannot be fairly understood 113 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,640 except in the context of my life and-and work. 114 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,800 I was born in New York in 1904. 115 00:07:46,860 --> 00:07:49,800 My father came to this country at the age of 17 116 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:50,900 from Germany. 117 00:07:54,260 --> 00:07:57,900 NARRATOR: Julius Oppenheimer was a penniless Jewish immigrant 118 00:07:57,900 --> 00:08:00,720 who arrived in America in 1888 119 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,960 unable to speak a word of English, 120 00:08:03,300 --> 00:08:06,900 and went to work in his uncle's textile importing business. 121 00:08:08,380 --> 00:08:09,850 By the time he was 30, 122 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,290 he was a partner in the company and a wealthy man. 123 00:08:14,540 --> 00:08:15,660 When he fell in love, 124 00:08:16,100 --> 00:08:18,620 it was with a sensitive, talented woman 125 00:08:18,780 --> 00:08:21,200 of exquisite taste and refinement. 126 00:08:21,540 --> 00:08:23,460 My mother was born in Baltimore, 127 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,380 and before her marriage, 128 00:08:25,380 --> 00:08:27,620 she was an artist and teacher of art. 129 00:08:28,180 --> 00:08:30,980 NARRATOR: Ella Oppenheimer was "very delicate," 130 00:08:30,980 --> 00:08:32,240 a friend remembered, 131 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,860 with an air of sadness about her. 132 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,340 Robert was precociously brilliant, 133 00:08:38,340 --> 00:08:42,000 and both parents were protective of his uncommon gifts. 134 00:08:42,620 --> 00:08:44,660 Frail, frequently sick, 135 00:08:44,900 --> 00:08:46,820 he was attended to by servants, 136 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,060 driven everywhere. 137 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,680 He rarely played with other children. 138 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,520 PRISCILLA J. McMILLAN, Writer: He wasn't mischievous. 139 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,680 He was too brilliant to be just one of the children. 140 00:08:56,340 --> 00:08:58,540 But his parents treasured him, 141 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,500 treated him like a little jewel, 142 00:09:00,780 --> 00:09:03,340 and he just skipped being a boy. 143 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,740 NARRATOR: "My childhood did not prepare me for the fact 144 00:09:07,740 --> 00:09:11,120 that the world is full of cruel and bitter things," 145 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:12,300 Oppenheimer said. 146 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,860 "It gave me no normal, healthy way to be a bastard." 147 00:09:23,780 --> 00:09:25,820 Sometime around the age of five, 148 00:09:25,820 --> 00:09:29,230 Robert's grandfather gave him a small collection of minerals. 149 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,480 "From then on," he said, 150 00:09:31,820 --> 00:09:34,520 "I became, in a completely childish way, 151 00:09:34,820 --> 00:09:36,660 "an ardent mineral collector. 152 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:41,060 "But it began to be also a bit of a scientist's interest, 153 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,280 a fascination with crystals." 154 00:09:44,140 --> 00:09:47,040 MARTIN SHERWIN, Historian: He wrote to the New York Mineralogical Society 155 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,180 on a typewriter. 156 00:09:48,580 --> 00:09:52,290 They were so impressed with what he had to say that, 157 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,660 of course, thinking he was an adult, 158 00:09:54,660 --> 00:09:56,290 they invited him to give a lecture, 159 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,560 and little Robert, at age ten or 11, 160 00:09:59,560 --> 00:10:02,240 shows up at the New York Mineralogical Society, 161 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:03,700 and has to stand on a box 162 00:10:03,700 --> 00:10:06,720 in order to see over the lectern to give this lecture. 163 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,260 That is not a normal average childhood. 164 00:10:13,310 --> 00:10:16,580 NARRATOR: Eight years separated Robert from his brother Frank, 165 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,120 too many for companionship. 166 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,740 Robert was a loner. 167 00:10:22,300 --> 00:10:24,690 And at New York's Ethical Culture school, 168 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,660 he inhabited his own rarefied world, 169 00:10:27,940 --> 00:10:29,760 more comfortable with his teachers 170 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,160 than with the other students, 171 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,140 who nicknamed him "Booby" Oppenheimer. 172 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:35,960 To protect himself, 173 00:10:36,220 --> 00:10:38,700 he relied on his preternatural brilliance 174 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,260 and grew aloof and arrogant. 175 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,080 PRISCILLA J. McMILLAN, Writer: He didn't grow up. 176 00:10:45,980 --> 00:10:49,780 He studied a great deal, which shielded him from the world, 177 00:10:50,820 --> 00:10:52,650 and the emotional side of him 178 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,100 didn't catch up until much later. 179 00:10:57,500 --> 00:11:00,440 NARRATOR: Oppenheimer graduated high school valedictorian 180 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,620 and then conquered Harvard. 181 00:11:03,820 --> 00:11:06,940 He studied chemistry, physics, calculus, 182 00:11:07,300 --> 00:11:09,020 English and French literature, 183 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,320 Western, Chinese and Hindu philosophy. 184 00:11:12,580 --> 00:11:15,880 He even found time to write stories and poems. 185 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:17,360 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: He described it as being 186 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,380 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: like the Huns invading Rome, 187 00:11:19,610 --> 00:11:23,610 by which he meant he was going to swallow up every bit 188 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:27,450 of culture and art and science that he could possibly do. 189 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,180 MARTIN SHERWIN, Historian: Harvard is an environment in which the intellectual life 190 00:11:32,180 --> 00:11:34,240 is a rich feast, 191 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,220 but the social life is a desert. 192 00:11:44,300 --> 00:11:47,740 NARRATOR: In all his years at Harvard, he never had a date. 193 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,240 He remained immature, uncertain, 194 00:11:51,580 --> 00:11:54,580 easily bewildered in social situations. 195 00:11:56,740 --> 00:11:59,680 One friend remembered "bouts of melancholy 196 00:12:00,260 --> 00:12:02,640 and deep, deep depressions." 197 00:12:04,390 --> 00:12:08,620 "In the days of my almost infinitely prolonged adolescence," 198 00:12:08,620 --> 00:12:11,580 he said later, "I hardly took an action, 199 00:12:11,700 --> 00:12:14,800 "hardly did anything that did not arouse in me 200 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,100 "a very great sense of revulsion and of wrong. 201 00:12:19,180 --> 00:12:20,740 "My feeling about myself 202 00:12:20,740 --> 00:12:24,220 was always one of extreme discontent." 203 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,680 His doubts about himself came clear in his poems: 204 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,760 OPPENHEIMER (David Strathairn): The dawn invests our substance with desire 205 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:38,000 And the slow light betrays us, and our wistfulness... 206 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,420 We find ourselves again 207 00:12:41,540 --> 00:12:43,460 Each in his separate prison 208 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,180 Ready, hopeless for negotiation 209 00:12:47,180 --> 00:12:48,280 With other men. 210 00:12:55,380 --> 00:12:58,460 NARRATOR: Oppenheimer graduated in just three years, 211 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,380 and in 1925 headed for Cambridge, England, 212 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,260 and an advanced degree at the celebrated Cavendish laboratory. 213 00:13:07,680 --> 00:13:10,520 Academic success had always come easily. 214 00:13:10,950 --> 00:13:13,560 Ambitious, determined to succeed, 215 00:13:13,980 --> 00:13:16,760 in England he would learn what it was like to struggle 216 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:18,020 and fail. 217 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,840 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: Oppenheimer, like so many theoretical physicists, 218 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,520 it turns out that if he walks through a lab, 219 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:25,620 the instruments all break. 220 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,560 And he's trying to do a rather delicate physical experiment 221 00:13:29,560 --> 00:13:31,140 and he's not getting anywhere. 222 00:13:31,210 --> 00:13:33,070 And he's sinking deeper and deeper 223 00:13:33,140 --> 00:13:35,610 into that special despair 224 00:13:36,180 --> 00:13:39,700 that comes along when prodigies grow up 225 00:13:40,260 --> 00:13:42,480 and have... and realize they can't just do it 226 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:43,980 by being a prodigy anymore. 227 00:13:45,020 --> 00:13:48,560 MARTIN SHERWIN, Historian: His eyes and his hands and his mind 228 00:13:48,560 --> 00:13:49,720 are not coordinated. 229 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,440 He's can't do what all of the other young people 230 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:54,540 are able to do. 231 00:13:55,100 --> 00:13:58,800 And he finds himself one day standing at a blackboard, 232 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,280 staring into space, saying, "The point is... 233 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,000 The point is... The point is..." 234 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,220 There is no point. 235 00:14:11,940 --> 00:14:14,680 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: He fell into despair. He fell into depression. 236 00:14:15,420 --> 00:14:18,520 Here was a point where he was suddenly doubting his intellect, 237 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,120 his ability to do science, 238 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,720 so it's not surprising that at that point, 239 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,320 the whole thing would go collapsing down for him. 240 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,700 At the same time, he had never really learned 241 00:14:31,700 --> 00:14:33,580 how to approach women, 242 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,600 how to close the sale, if I may call it that, 243 00:14:37,260 --> 00:14:39,140 and he was dealing with that as well. 244 00:14:42,340 --> 00:14:44,000 NARRATOR: Wrestling with inner demons 245 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,750 that threatened to overwhelm him, 246 00:14:45,940 --> 00:14:50,360 he was, he later said, "at the point of bumping myself off." 247 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,960 In 1926, Oppenheimer would save himself. 248 00:14:58,860 --> 00:15:01,880 He cut free from the English experimental laboratory 249 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,900 and headed for Göttingen, Germany, 250 00:15:04,220 --> 00:15:06,140 to study theoretical physics 251 00:15:06,140 --> 00:15:09,000 with some of the greatest scientific minds of the century. 252 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:14,440 "I had very great misgivings about myself on all fronts," 253 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:15,220 he said. 254 00:15:15,660 --> 00:15:19,400 "I hadn't been good; I hadn't done anybody any good; 255 00:15:19,900 --> 00:15:23,220 and here was something I felt just driven to try." 256 00:15:24,860 --> 00:15:28,900 In Göttingen, Oppenheimer would make his mark in a new science 257 00:15:29,180 --> 00:15:33,000 which explored a world that ran counter to everyday experience: 258 00:15:33,420 --> 00:15:34,740 Quantum Physics. 259 00:15:34,830 --> 00:15:37,320 HERBERT YORK, Physicist: Quantum Physics is the basic Physics 260 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,360 behind electrons and atoms. 261 00:15:39,700 --> 00:15:42,540 It turns out that classical ideas about 262 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,220 Newtonian mechanics and particle motion and so on, 263 00:15:46,220 --> 00:15:50,480 do not apply to things of... to things of atomic scale. 264 00:15:50,550 --> 00:15:52,300 You needed a new kind of physics. 265 00:15:52,660 --> 00:15:55,120 So if you're going to change on a different scale 266 00:15:55,460 --> 00:15:57,320 the-the whole structure of the physics, 267 00:15:57,390 --> 00:16:00,050 everything has to be redone, if you will, 268 00:16:00,420 --> 00:16:03,200 and that means there are enormous opportunities available 269 00:16:03,340 --> 00:16:05,280 for a young graduate student 270 00:16:05,420 --> 00:16:09,600 with talent to come in and make various aspects of this his own. 271 00:16:10,180 --> 00:16:12,120 NARRATOR: Oppenheimer immersed himself 272 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,520 in the mysteries of the subatomic universe, 273 00:16:14,620 --> 00:16:18,240 where nothing was certain, and probability the only rule. 274 00:16:18,860 --> 00:16:21,140 He found the work exhilarating. 275 00:16:21,460 --> 00:16:23,520 "There was terror," he wrote, 276 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,260 "as well as exaltation." 277 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,560 FREEMAN DYSON, Physicist: Oppenheimer really flourished there. 278 00:16:30,780 --> 00:16:32,820 He annoyed everybody, of course, by 279 00:16:33,140 --> 00:16:34,660 talking too much and... 280 00:16:36,820 --> 00:16:38,240 pretending he knew everything. 281 00:16:38,540 --> 00:16:41,840 He always considered very carefully what he said 282 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,920 as though he was speaking for the ages. 283 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,740 And he expected everybody to be seduced 284 00:16:47,740 --> 00:16:50,660 by his Renaissance man knowledge 285 00:16:51,020 --> 00:16:52,220 of everything. 286 00:16:53,860 --> 00:16:56,660 NARRATOR: In Göttingen, Oppenheimer came into his own 287 00:16:56,660 --> 00:16:58,210 as a theoretical physicist, 288 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,000 publishing 16 papers in three years. 289 00:17:02,860 --> 00:17:05,320 By the time he was ready to return to America, 290 00:17:05,500 --> 00:17:07,260 he was focused and confident, 291 00:17:07,620 --> 00:17:11,120 an ambitious young man with an international reputation. 292 00:17:14,140 --> 00:17:17,400 OPPENHEIMER: In the spring of 1929, I returned to the United States. 293 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,670 I was homesick for this country. 294 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,180 I had learned in my student days 295 00:17:22,180 --> 00:17:24,380 a great deal about the new physics. 296 00:17:24,380 --> 00:17:27,980 I wanted to pursue this myself, to explain it, 297 00:17:28,220 --> 00:17:30,100 and to foster its cultivation. 298 00:17:31,740 --> 00:17:33,840 NARRATOR: Oppenheimer was just 25 299 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,680 and already knew more about the Quantum Universe 300 00:17:36,860 --> 00:17:38,560 than nearly any other American. 301 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:40,940 He settled in California 302 00:17:41,060 --> 00:17:43,660 and began teaching at Cal Tech in Pasadena 303 00:17:43,900 --> 00:17:46,620 and the University of California in Berkeley. 304 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:48,300 But at first, 305 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,920 his lectures were incomprehensible. 306 00:17:51,460 --> 00:17:54,420 ROBERT CHRISTY, Physicist: It was customary until I got there 307 00:17:54,700 --> 00:17:57,580 for students to take his main course in Theoretical Physics 308 00:17:57,580 --> 00:17:58,720 twice in a row. 309 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,740 They would take a second year to fully understand it. 310 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,160 Other students were taking it in pairs. 311 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,600 One would listen, the other one would write notes 312 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,760 and they'd work out the lecture afterward. 313 00:18:10,780 --> 00:18:13,440 MARTIN SHERWIN, Historian: He spoke at a very fast clip, 314 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,860 puffing on his cigarette, which he always had; 315 00:18:15,860 --> 00:18:18,640 he was writing with his chalk, and he was moving back and forth 316 00:18:18,780 --> 00:18:21,220 between his left hand and his right hand so quickly 317 00:18:21,220 --> 00:18:23,300 that people thought he was going to smoke the chalk, 318 00:18:23,500 --> 00:18:25,200 you know, and write with the cigarette, 319 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,920 uh... and... they couldn't follow him. 320 00:18:30,860 --> 00:18:33,580 But he was able to transform himself 321 00:18:33,580 --> 00:18:36,940 into an excellent lecturer who was charismatic 322 00:18:36,940 --> 00:18:38,550 and extremely effective. 323 00:18:39,060 --> 00:18:42,320 NARRATOR: Oppenheimer became a magnetic, dazzling teacher, 324 00:18:42,380 --> 00:18:46,080 but his arrogance could make even his colleagues wince. 325 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:48,720 MARVIN L. GOLDBERGER, Physicist: He was not likable 326 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,780 MARVIN L. GOLDBERGER, Physicist: because he wouldn't let you look at him. 327 00:18:50,900 --> 00:18:52,940 He was always on stage. 328 00:18:53,340 --> 00:18:54,840 You never had a feeling 329 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,170 that he was speaking from the heart somehow. 330 00:18:58,540 --> 00:19:01,540 He never came across as a real person. 331 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,840 There was always a studied remark 332 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,600 intended to convey some sort of, 333 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,080 I don't know, superiority 334 00:19:10,740 --> 00:19:13,320 or deeper knowledge than you pos... 335 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,660 you slobs could possibly understand. 336 00:19:16,740 --> 00:19:19,960 He could be devastating, especially to young people. 337 00:19:20,260 --> 00:19:22,220 He became very impatient 338 00:19:22,220 --> 00:19:24,340 and was always all over them, 339 00:19:24,740 --> 00:19:27,800 and sometimes reduced them practically to tears. 340 00:19:28,100 --> 00:19:30,520 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: His sharp remarks were not inadvertent. 341 00:19:31,360 --> 00:19:34,660 They had to do with a kind of arrogance and contempt. 342 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,260 I take it to be a way 343 00:19:37,260 --> 00:19:39,800 that he disguised his anxieties, 344 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,460 that he disguised his social insecurities, 345 00:19:42,700 --> 00:19:44,520 but it was immensely cruel. 346 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,800 NARRATOR: Oppenheimer called his behavior "beastliness." 347 00:19:49,580 --> 00:19:52,520 "It is not easy," he wrote in a letter to his brother, 348 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,260 "at least it is not easy for me, 349 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:59,040 to be quite free of the desire to browbeat somebody." 350 00:20:05,980 --> 00:20:08,400 Ever since Oppenheimer had visited New Mexico 351 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,580 as a teenager, he had been haunted by its wild beauty. 352 00:20:17,060 --> 00:20:20,780 In 1927, his father took a lease on a rustic cabin 353 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,620 high in the mountains 45 miles northeast of Santa Fe 354 00:20:25,140 --> 00:20:27,150 and gave it to both his sons. 355 00:20:28,340 --> 00:20:31,240 The Oppenheimers called it Perro Caliente, 356 00:20:31,540 --> 00:20:33,900 Spanish for "hot dog." 357 00:20:34,460 --> 00:20:35,760 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: He found peace there. 358 00:20:36,140 --> 00:20:38,500 He found a different self there, 359 00:20:38,620 --> 00:20:41,900 one that he liked, a cowboy self. 360 00:20:43,860 --> 00:20:47,020 Friends who went to visit him later would talk about the fact 361 00:20:47,020 --> 00:20:50,420 that he would go out riding for three days at a time 362 00:20:50,420 --> 00:20:52,860 up the ridge of the Rocky Mountains 363 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,820 with a bar of chocolate 364 00:20:54,820 --> 00:20:57,280 and a pint of whiskey in his hip pocket, 365 00:20:57,460 --> 00:20:59,860 and they would be starving and terrified 366 00:20:59,860 --> 00:21:02,040 riding through mountain storms and lightning, 367 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,640 and he would just be having a wonderful time. 368 00:21:06,860 --> 00:21:08,320 NARRATOR: "My two great loves," 369 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:09,680 he once told a friend, 370 00:21:09,860 --> 00:21:12,420 "are physics and desert country. 371 00:21:13,900 --> 00:21:15,840 It's a pity they can't be combined." 372 00:21:16,940 --> 00:21:19,420 (birds singing) 373 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,480 (loud shouting, whistle blowing) 374 00:21:25,660 --> 00:21:26,780 (gunshots) 375 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:31,240 In 1934, San Francisco longshoremen battled police, 376 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,900 shutting down the waterfront just across the bay 377 00:21:33,900 --> 00:21:35,620 from Oppenheimer's home in Berkeley. 378 00:21:37,260 --> 00:21:40,680 America itself seemed on the verge of revolution, 379 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,600 with violence in the streets, 380 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,280 strikes, a failing economy, 381 00:21:45,540 --> 00:21:47,700 a third of the nation unemployed. 382 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,840 But Oppenheimer remained aloof. 383 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,200 OPPENHEIMER: I had no radio, no telephone. 384 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,300 I never read a newspaper or a current magazine. 385 00:21:58,540 --> 00:22:00,520 I learned of the stock market crash 386 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,420 in the fall of 1929 only long after the event. 387 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,460 I voted for the first time 388 00:22:06,460 --> 00:22:09,160 in a presidential election in 1936. 389 00:22:10,540 --> 00:22:12,880 I was deeply interested in my science, 390 00:22:13,140 --> 00:22:14,800 but I had no understanding 391 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,640 of the relations of man to his society. 392 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,260 MARTIN SHERWIN, Historian: The Depression didn't affect him personally. 393 00:22:20,260 --> 00:22:22,820 He had an income from his father, 394 00:22:22,820 --> 00:22:23,880 who was wealthy. 395 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,040 And politics 396 00:22:26,380 --> 00:22:28,460 seemed gross to him. 397 00:22:29,700 --> 00:22:32,180 OPPENHEIMER: Beginning late in 1936, 398 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,520 my interests began to change. 399 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,020 I saw what the Depression was doing to my students. 400 00:22:38,380 --> 00:22:40,120 Often, they could get no jobs. 401 00:22:40,580 --> 00:22:42,120 But I had no framework 402 00:22:42,120 --> 00:22:44,900 of political conviction or experience 403 00:22:44,900 --> 00:22:46,580 to give me perspective in these matters. 404 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,440 In the spring of 1936, 405 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,240 I was introduced by friends to Jean Tatlock. 406 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,540 In the autumn, I began to court her. 407 00:22:58,300 --> 00:23:01,200 We were at least twice close enough to marriage 408 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,280 to think of ourselves as engaged. 409 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:09,160 NARRATOR: Jean Tatlock was Oppenheimer's first real love. 410 00:23:09,780 --> 00:23:12,560 She was 22, studying to be a doctor, 411 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,380 and passionately involved 412 00:23:14,380 --> 00:23:16,460 with the contentious issues of her day: 413 00:23:17,060 --> 00:23:18,720 the civil war in Spain, 414 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,520 organizing workers, 415 00:23:20,740 --> 00:23:22,300 racial discrimination. 416 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,360 She was also a member of the Communist Party 417 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,600 and introduced Oppenheimer into her political circle. 418 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,000 I made left-wing friends, 419 00:23:31,260 --> 00:23:33,560 and felt sympathy for causes 420 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,200 which hitherto would have seemed so remote from me, 421 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,260 like the Loyalist cause in Spain 422 00:23:38,340 --> 00:23:40,780 and the organization of migratory workers. 423 00:23:41,980 --> 00:23:44,160 I liked the new sense of companionship 424 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,240 and, at the time, felt that I was coming to be part 425 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,400 of the life of my time and country. 426 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,560 I did not then regard Communists as dangerous, 427 00:23:54,340 --> 00:23:56,080 and some of their declared objectives 428 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,300 seemed to me desirable. 429 00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,600 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: In the 1930s, 430 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:00,940 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: in the bottom of the Depression, 431 00:24:00,940 --> 00:24:04,040 there was a deep and fundamental concern 432 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,060 about the future of this country, 433 00:24:06,220 --> 00:24:07,860 whether its economic 434 00:24:07,860 --> 00:24:11,480 and, to some degree, political system was adequate. 435 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,840 We came later in America to demonize people 436 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,500 who belonged to the Communist Party, 437 00:24:16,820 --> 00:24:19,620 but it was a very common business in the '30s. 438 00:24:20,420 --> 00:24:24,120 NARRATOR: Workers, teachers, doctors, writers. 439 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,100 Americans of every stripe and color were party members, 440 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,560 but although he shared many of their political concerns, 441 00:24:31,860 --> 00:24:33,020 there is nothing to prove 442 00:24:33,020 --> 00:24:35,540 that Oppenheimer himself was a Communist. 443 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,740 Oppenheimer never joined the party. 444 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,380 The FBI spent 30 years 445 00:24:40,380 --> 00:24:43,100 trying to prove that Oppenheimer had been a Communist 446 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,100 and was never able to do so. 447 00:24:45,380 --> 00:24:48,280 That's probably good evidence that he never joined the party. 448 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,480 NARRATOR: Oppenheimer was deeply bound to Tatlock, 449 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,040 but she was volatile, moody, 450 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:57,800 sometimes distraught. 451 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,380 After three years, she broke off their relationship. 452 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,420 PRISCILLA J. McMILLAN, Writer: Their relationship appears to have been 453 00:25:05,420 --> 00:25:07,030 PRISCILLA J. McMILLAN, Writer: quite a stormy one, 454 00:25:07,030 --> 00:25:09,040 and Jean Tatlock, 455 00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:14,200 although for many years people who knew her didn't say this, 456 00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:16,700 was uncertain whether she... 457 00:25:17,210 --> 00:25:21,160 wanted to be with men or women, 458 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,260 whether she was lesbian or heterosexual, 459 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,380 and, I believe, that must have been at the bottom 460 00:25:27,660 --> 00:25:29,820 of her crises with Oppenheimer. 461 00:25:30,180 --> 00:25:33,440 And how that fed into his own 462 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:38,420 sexual certainties and uncertainties, 463 00:25:38,700 --> 00:25:40,500 one can only imagine. 464 00:25:42,020 --> 00:25:43,180 He was troubled. 465 00:25:44,300 --> 00:25:47,200 That's why he was attracted to troubled women. 466 00:25:47,460 --> 00:25:48,460 He was troubled. 467 00:25:48,460 --> 00:25:50,040 He didn't know who he was. 468 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,080 NARRATOR: Oppenheimer would always feel a tender attachment to Jean, 469 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,340 but they had gone their separate ways. 470 00:25:58,540 --> 00:26:01,120 When Kitty Harrison set her cap for him. 471 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:03,940 Kitty was 29 472 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,640 and also a former Communist Party member. 473 00:26:06,980 --> 00:26:08,460 She was married to a doctor, 474 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,160 but that didn't stop her 475 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,500 from going after the well-known scientist. 476 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,280 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: When she saw Oppenheimer, she grabbed him. 477 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,220 They were together, of course, for the rest of their lives, 478 00:26:18,700 --> 00:26:19,980 but it was... 479 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,660 God knows, a tumultuous relationship 480 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,820 with a lot of bickering and a lot of fighting 481 00:26:25,820 --> 00:26:26,960 and a lot of drinking. 482 00:26:27,380 --> 00:26:30,940 You know, Kitty and Jean were both dominant women. 483 00:26:30,940 --> 00:26:32,820 They were passionate women, 484 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,340 and in some way, he could comfort them. 485 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,260 He could save them, or try to. 486 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,000 Here were two women who both presented themselves 487 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,580 as people who needed saving, 488 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,540 and Robert jumped in like the... 489 00:26:44,540 --> 00:26:47,260 like the white knight that he... I think, wanted to be. 490 00:26:47,980 --> 00:26:49,240 NARRATOR: In 1940, 491 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,980 NARRATOR: Oppenheimer became Kitty's fourth husband. 492 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,120 Less than seven months later, 493 00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:56,440 their first child, Peter, was born. 494 00:26:57,580 --> 00:27:00,560 Although they continued to see some of their left-wing friends, 495 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,640 the Oppenheimers were, by now, 496 00:27:02,740 --> 00:27:05,880 detaching themselves from Communist Party politics. 497 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,820 OPPENHEIMER: My views were evolving. 498 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,900 At that time, I did not fully understand, 499 00:27:10,900 --> 00:27:12,920 as in time I came to understand, 500 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,560 how completely the Communist Party in this country 501 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,420 was under the control of Russia. 502 00:27:21,300 --> 00:27:25,020 Many of its declared objectives seemed desirable to me, 503 00:27:25,020 --> 00:27:28,860 but I never accepted Communist dogma or theory. 504 00:27:29,300 --> 00:27:31,060 In fact, it never made any sense to me. 505 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,040 NARRATOR: What did make sense was science. 506 00:27:36,740 --> 00:27:39,660 He would never let politics interfere with his teaching 507 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,440 or his physics. 508 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,960 ROY J. GLAUBER, Physicist: Of course, he paid attention to experiment, 509 00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:48,530 but he was a theorist. 510 00:27:48,820 --> 00:27:51,080 He probed very deeply. 511 00:27:51,700 --> 00:27:54,760 He was interested in the deepest ideas, 512 00:27:54,980 --> 00:27:57,420 and he did contribute to some of them. 513 00:27:58,700 --> 00:28:00,080 FREEMAN DYSON, Physicist: In 1939, 514 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,540 he published with his student Hartland Snyder, 515 00:28:02,540 --> 00:28:04,320 really a great piece of work, 516 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,440 explaining how stars collapse, 517 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,360 how they can actually end up as black holes, 518 00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:10,960 which had never been understood before. 519 00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:14,960 NARRATOR: That same year, a startling dispatch 520 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,520 from the abstruse world of nuclear physics 521 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,360 changed the course of history 522 00:28:19,700 --> 00:28:21,240 and Oppenheimer's life. 523 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,560 Two German chemists 524 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,760 reported that the uranium nucleus 525 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:27,980 could be split. 526 00:28:28,740 --> 00:28:30,600 The discovery soon had a name: 527 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:32,480 Nuclear Fission. 528 00:28:34,100 --> 00:28:36,240 "The U-business is unbelievable," 529 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,510 Oppenheimer wrote. 530 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,020 "Many points are still unclear. 531 00:28:40,780 --> 00:28:42,940 "I think it really not too improbable 532 00:28:42,940 --> 00:28:46,060 "that a ten-centimeter cube of Uranium deuteride 533 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,820 might very well blow itself to hell." 534 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,440 The discovery of Nuclear Fission began a race that would end 535 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,300 with the atomic bomb. 536 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,500 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: He saw already 537 00:28:58,500 --> 00:29:00,160 at the beginning, as, I think, 538 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,980 any really good physicist did, 539 00:29:01,980 --> 00:29:03,080 just by doing the numbers, 540 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,000 about the 541 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,240 amount of energy released in this reaction, 542 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,040 that this was going to change the world. 543 00:29:11,740 --> 00:29:14,780 With that discovery came a change 544 00:29:14,780 --> 00:29:17,200 in the relationship between science 545 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,780 and the nation state. 546 00:29:19,900 --> 00:29:21,660 Every country in the world 547 00:29:21,940 --> 00:29:26,040 in 1939 and 1940 that had the capability 548 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,180 of even beginning to work on a bomb 549 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:29,720 began that work, 550 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,520 not only England and Germany and the United States, 551 00:29:33,900 --> 00:29:38,220 but also France, Japan and the Soviet Union. 552 00:29:40,770 --> 00:29:44,110 NARRATOR: But the only threat came from Germany. 553 00:29:45,100 --> 00:29:46,820 OPPENHEIMER: We had information in those days 554 00:29:46,820 --> 00:29:49,620 of German activity in the field of nuclear fission. 555 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,140 We were aware of what it might mean 556 00:29:52,140 --> 00:29:54,200 if they beat us to the draw 557 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,160 in the development of atomic bombs. 558 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,090 I had relatives there, 559 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,720 and was later to help in extricating them 560 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,100 and bringing them to this country. 561 00:30:02,500 --> 00:30:04,000 (weapons firing) 562 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,120 NARRATOR: Nine months after the discovery of nuclear fission, 563 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,120 Germany invaded Poland. 564 00:30:09,780 --> 00:30:12,100 World War II had begun. 565 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,880 When the United States entered the war two years later, 566 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,740 American scientists feared 567 00:30:17,740 --> 00:30:19,860 that Germany was already well ahead 568 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,080 in the race to build an atomic bomb. 569 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,060 If America was going to develop a bomb first, 570 00:30:26,340 --> 00:30:27,920 they would have to work fast. 571 00:30:27,990 --> 00:30:31,260 (train whistle blowing) 572 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,100 In October 1942, 573 00:30:34,260 --> 00:30:37,480 the 20th Century Limited was speeding toward New York City. 574 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,740 Sharing a private Pullman car were Robert Oppenheimer 575 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,940 and a 46-year-old career Army officer, 576 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,240 General Leslie Groves. 577 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,360 Groves had been placed in command 578 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,050 of the Manhattan Project, 579 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,240 the staggering enterprise 580 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,680 to marshal the vast technical and industrial resources 581 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,500 to develop an atomic bomb. 582 00:31:01,460 --> 00:31:03,800 Now, he was looking over the man 583 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,200 he hoped might head up the secret laboratory 584 00:31:06,420 --> 00:31:09,130 where the bomb would be designed and built. 585 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,160 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: Groves's way of operating was to be blunt and brutal. 586 00:31:13,660 --> 00:31:16,440 He knew, as they said during the First World War, 587 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,960 how to get the Spam to the front lines. 588 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,840 He knew how to get the job done. 589 00:31:21,860 --> 00:31:23,880 NARRATOR: The two men talked for hours. 590 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:25,600 When they were done, 591 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,600 Groves had made up his mind. 592 00:31:28,980 --> 00:31:30,480 Oppenheimer, he believed, 593 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,680 had the ambition, discipline and brilliance 594 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,500 to lead the most complex scientific effort 595 00:31:36,500 --> 00:31:38,500 America had ever undertaken. 596 00:31:39,660 --> 00:31:42,000 "He's a genius," Groves said later. 597 00:31:42,100 --> 00:31:43,300 "A real genius. 598 00:31:43,620 --> 00:31:45,830 "He can talk to you about anything you bring up. 599 00:31:46,460 --> 00:31:48,300 "Well, not exactly. 600 00:31:49,060 --> 00:31:51,000 He doesn't know anything about sports." 601 00:31:51,860 --> 00:31:53,520 ROBERT CHRISTY, Physicist: Groves went a way out on a limb 602 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,160 ROBERT CHRISTY, Physicist: in choosing Oppenheimer. 603 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,400 No one would have 604 00:31:56,620 --> 00:31:59,080 would have supposed that this esoteric person, 605 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,920 with an interest in French poetry 606 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,180 and Hindu mysticism, 607 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,520 would be a practical person to lead a laboratory. 608 00:32:06,700 --> 00:32:08,960 He'd never directed anything really, 609 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:10,400 to speak of. 610 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,660 He hadn't even been a department chairman. 611 00:32:12,780 --> 00:32:14,860 Most of his friends think 612 00:32:14,860 --> 00:32:17,420 that Oppenheimer could not run a hamburger stand. 613 00:32:18,580 --> 00:32:20,780 NARRATOR: Groves wanted Oppenheimer anyway, 614 00:32:21,180 --> 00:32:23,060 but the United States Army refused 615 00:32:23,060 --> 00:32:25,380 to give the scientist a security clearance. 616 00:32:26,620 --> 00:32:28,120 The country was at war. 617 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,360 Even though Russia was America's ally, 618 00:32:31,500 --> 00:32:33,760 anyone with Communist associations 619 00:32:33,980 --> 00:32:36,180 was considered a possible spy. 620 00:32:37,300 --> 00:32:38,580 It was the first time 621 00:32:38,580 --> 00:32:40,540 Oppenheimer's loyalty to America 622 00:32:40,540 --> 00:32:41,640 would be questioned. 623 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,260 MARTIN SHERWIN, Historian: The security people are appalled. 624 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,940 Oppenheimer is the last person they would want as director, 625 00:32:47,940 --> 00:32:49,640 and he's the next to the last person 626 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,020 they'd even want involved in the project at all 627 00:32:52,020 --> 00:32:54,140 as a... uh... as a janitor. 628 00:32:54,420 --> 00:32:56,100 Groves is very conservative. 629 00:32:56,100 --> 00:32:57,320 He hates Communists. 630 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,460 But Groves does not allow 631 00:33:00,460 --> 00:33:04,420 Oppenheimer's left-wing activities during the 1930s 632 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,120 to trump his belief 633 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,780 that Oppenheimer will be just the right person. 634 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,160 OPPENHEIMER: In early 1943, I received a letter, 635 00:33:13,580 --> 00:33:15,660 appointing me director of the laboratory. 636 00:33:15,980 --> 00:33:18,600 Almost everyone knew this was a great undertaking. 637 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,340 It might determine the outcome of the war. 638 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,560 It was an unparalleled opportunity 639 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,320 to bring to bear the knowledge and art of science 640 00:33:28,500 --> 00:33:29,960 for the benefit of the country. 641 00:33:30,300 --> 00:33:32,380 This job, if it were achieved, 642 00:33:32,660 --> 00:33:34,120 would be part of history. 643 00:33:40,580 --> 00:33:42,540 NARRATOR: Oppenheimer had once fantasized 644 00:33:42,540 --> 00:33:44,720 combining his passion for physics 645 00:33:44,940 --> 00:33:48,000 with his love of the desert and mountains of New Mexico. 646 00:33:50,980 --> 00:33:53,800 Now, he suggested a remote wilderness 647 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,960 near the Los Alamos Canyon, northeast of Santa Fe, 648 00:33:57,140 --> 00:33:59,520 as the site for the atomic bomb laboratory. 649 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,340 General Groves quickly agreed. 650 00:34:03,500 --> 00:34:06,140 Oppenheimer's fantasy had come true. 651 00:34:08,700 --> 00:34:10,520 Before leaving for Los Alamos, 652 00:34:10,780 --> 00:34:13,500 Oppenheimer entertained an old friend for dinner, 653 00:34:13,700 --> 00:34:15,180 Haakon Chevalier, 654 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,880 a French professor teaching at Berkeley 655 00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:19,840 and a dedicated Communist. 656 00:34:20,220 --> 00:34:22,960 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: Oppenheimer had known Chevalier for years. 657 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,500 He was... Chevalier was one of his closet friends. 658 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,060 He knew Chevalier was a Communist. 659 00:34:28,060 --> 00:34:29,600 It didn't really worry him. 660 00:34:30,340 --> 00:34:33,620 He judged that Chevalier wouldn't do anything 661 00:34:33,620 --> 00:34:36,480 that would compromise Robert Oppenheimer. 662 00:34:37,180 --> 00:34:39,420 NARRATOR: But Chevalier put Oppenheimer at risk. 663 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,400 He told his friend that a British engineer 664 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:43,580 named Eltenton 665 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,000 wanted information about Oppenheimer's scientific work 666 00:34:47,220 --> 00:34:50,260 to pass on to a diplomat at the Soviet Embassy. 667 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,320 Oppenheimer dismissed the idea. 668 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,820 "That would be treason," he said. 669 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,460 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: Oppenheimer did not, at the time, 670 00:34:58,460 --> 00:35:01,240 take this approach as something serious. 671 00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:03,800 It was only later that it came to be a problem 672 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,160 because it was useful to people who wanted to destroy him 673 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,200 to make it a problem. 674 00:35:08,700 --> 00:35:10,460 ROGER ROBB, Courtroom Prosecutor: Doctor, do you think that social contacts 675 00:35:10,460 --> 00:35:13,480 between a person employed in secret war work 676 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,340 and Communists or Communist adherents 677 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:17,860 is dangerous? 678 00:35:18,300 --> 00:35:20,040 Certainly not necessarily so. 679 00:35:20,220 --> 00:35:21,780 They could conceivably be. 680 00:35:22,500 --> 00:35:25,220 My awareness of the danger would be greater today. 681 00:35:25,660 --> 00:35:26,960 Doctor, in your opinion, 682 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,940 is association with the Communist movement 683 00:35:29,940 --> 00:35:32,920 compatible with a job on a secret war project? 684 00:35:33,580 --> 00:35:36,140 I was associated with the Communist movement, 685 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,220 and I did not regard it as inappropriate 686 00:35:39,220 --> 00:35:41,000 to take the job at Los Alamos. 687 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,820 Doctor, let me ask you a blunt question. 688 00:35:45,340 --> 00:35:48,400 Don't you know, and didn't you know certainly by 1943, 689 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,540 that the Communist Party was an instrument 690 00:35:50,540 --> 00:35:53,700 or a vehicle of espionage in this country? 691 00:35:55,020 --> 00:35:56,440 I was not clear about it. 692 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,400 I am asking you now... 693 00:36:01,980 --> 00:36:03,840 if fear of espionage 694 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:05,880 wasn't one of the reasons 695 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,640 why you felt that association with the Communist Party 696 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,980 was inconsistent with work on a secret war project? 697 00:36:12,660 --> 00:36:13,320 Yes. 698 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,380 Your answer is that it was? 699 00:36:16,380 --> 00:36:17,160 Yes. 700 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,420 You would have felt then, I assume, 701 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,420 that a rather continued or constant association 702 00:36:25,420 --> 00:36:29,200 between a person employed on the atomic bomb project 703 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,300 and Communists or Communist adherents 704 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:34,880 was dangerous? 705 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,660 Potentially dangerous, conceivably dangerous. 706 00:36:39,820 --> 00:36:42,980 Look, I have had a lot of secrets in my head a long time. 707 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,580 It does not matter who I associate with. 708 00:36:45,580 --> 00:36:47,360 I don't talk about those secrets. 709 00:36:51,420 --> 00:36:53,460 NARRATOR: In times of spiritual trial, 710 00:36:53,660 --> 00:36:56,440 Oppenheimer would search the Bhagavad Gita, 711 00:36:56,700 --> 00:36:58,520 a sacred Hindu text, 712 00:36:58,740 --> 00:37:00,420 for meaning and comfort. 713 00:37:01,140 --> 00:37:04,520 He often turned to the story of the warrior Prince Arjuna, 714 00:37:05,020 --> 00:37:09,080 who, to fulfill his destiny, must fight and kill. 715 00:37:11,900 --> 00:37:14,560 OPPENHEIMER: "In battle, in forest, 716 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,940 "at the precipice in the mountains, 717 00:37:17,940 --> 00:37:19,640 "on the dark great sea, 718 00:37:20,220 --> 00:37:22,570 "in the midst of javelins and arrows, 719 00:37:23,740 --> 00:37:26,520 "in sleep, in confusion, 720 00:37:27,220 --> 00:37:28,760 in the depths of shame, 721 00:37:29,780 --> 00:37:32,080 the good deeds a man has done before 722 00:37:32,720 --> 00:37:33,900 defend him." 723 00:37:36,780 --> 00:37:41,460 NARRATOR: In April 1943, Oppenheimer was 38 years old, 724 00:37:41,660 --> 00:37:43,220 about to take on a task 725 00:37:43,220 --> 00:37:45,380 for which few people thought him capable: 726 00:37:45,860 --> 00:37:47,880 harnessing the forces of the atom 727 00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:51,380 to build a bomb of awesome destructive power. 728 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,000 There was little doubt 729 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,260 that a potentially world-shattering undertaking lay ahead. 730 00:37:57,740 --> 00:38:00,260 We began to see the great explosion. 731 00:38:00,860 --> 00:38:04,640 We also began to see how rough, difficult, challenging 732 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,580 and unpredictable this job might turn out to be. 733 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,640 ROBERT CHRISTY, Physicist: A whole town was being constructed, 734 00:38:20,140 --> 00:38:22,740 and Oppenheimer was trying to organize the science. 735 00:38:23,060 --> 00:38:25,980 But in addition, they were constructing roads, 736 00:38:26,500 --> 00:38:28,360 laboratory buildings and homes. 737 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,520 We had no sidewalks anywhere, 738 00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:32,240 and in one season of the year, 739 00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:34,620 walked around in mud up to our ankles. 740 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,960 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: They were trying to build a first-class physics laboratory 741 00:38:39,140 --> 00:38:41,140 out in the middle of a howling wilderness. 742 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,960 It was a hell of a place to try to move a linear accelerator 743 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,640 up the narrow switchback mountain roads 744 00:38:47,860 --> 00:38:49,500 to install it at the top. 745 00:38:51,740 --> 00:38:55,480 NARRATOR: The laboratory at Los Alamos was a closely guarded secret. 746 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,840 From its beginnings, security had the highest priority. 747 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,960 Army intelligence watched over everything and everybody, 748 00:39:04,540 --> 00:39:07,820 especially the laboratory director with the left-wing past. 749 00:39:09,420 --> 00:39:11,380 Oppenheimer's phones were tapped, 750 00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:12,920 his mail opened, 751 00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:14,560 his office wired, 752 00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:17,220 his comings and goings closely monitored. 753 00:39:18,100 --> 00:39:21,180 His driver and bodyguard was an undercover agent. 754 00:39:22,740 --> 00:39:25,940 Oppenheimer, who knew everything that was going on at Los Alamos, 755 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,960 was still waiting for his security clearance. 756 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,460 MARTIN SHERWIN, Historian: Oppenheimer goes about doing the job as best he can do it, 757 00:39:33,460 --> 00:39:38,120 but the security people are like flies on a hot summer day. 758 00:39:38,260 --> 00:39:40,700 They're constantly buzzing around him. 759 00:39:40,700 --> 00:39:42,860 They're constantly annoying him. 760 00:39:43,020 --> 00:39:46,300 He does his best to shoo them, you know, away, 761 00:39:46,420 --> 00:39:48,140 but there's one instance 762 00:39:48,420 --> 00:39:52,180 where he makes a terrible, terrible mistake. 763 00:39:54,300 --> 00:39:57,740 OPPENHEIMER: I had visited Jean Tatlock in the spring of 1943. 764 00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:59,940 I almost had to. 765 00:40:00,300 --> 00:40:02,000 She was not much of a Communist, 766 00:40:02,030 --> 00:40:04,100 but she was certainly a member of the party. 767 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,540 There was nothing dangerous about that. 768 00:40:06,540 --> 00:40:08,920 There was nothing potentially dangerous about that. 769 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,880 NARRATOR: The government knew all about Oppenheimer's visit. 770 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,100 Agents from Army intelligence 771 00:40:15,100 --> 00:40:17,120 waited outside Tatlock's apartment, 772 00:40:17,260 --> 00:40:19,060 while Oppenheimer spent the night, 773 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,100 and reported the details to the FBI. 774 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,920 ROGER ROBB, Courtroom Prosecutor: Why did you have to see her? 775 00:40:25,140 --> 00:40:28,000 She had indicated a great desire to see me 776 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,640 before we left for Los Alamos. 777 00:40:30,980 --> 00:40:32,800 At that time, I couldn't go. 778 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,240 For one thing, I wasn't supposed to say 779 00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:37,160 where we were going or anything. 780 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,520 I felt that she had to see me. 781 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,240 She was undergoing psychiatric treatment. 782 00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:43,780 She was extremely unhappy. 783 00:40:44,980 --> 00:40:46,980 Did you find out why she had to see you? 784 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,680 Because she was still in love with me. 785 00:40:56,140 --> 00:40:59,000 When did you see her after that? 786 00:41:00,900 --> 00:41:04,500 She took me to the airport, and I never saw her again. 787 00:41:05,060 --> 00:41:07,780 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: Jean Tatlock was a wounded, lonely woman, 788 00:41:07,780 --> 00:41:09,220 who was at wit's end, 789 00:41:09,220 --> 00:41:11,260 and she wanted this man whom she loved 790 00:41:11,260 --> 00:41:12,940 to come to her and he did. 791 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,120 From the point of view of the gumshoes who sat outside 792 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,040 Jean Tatlock's apartment all night in their car, 793 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,640 writing down who came and who went and at what hour, 794 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,860 and when the lights were on and when the lights were off, 795 00:41:24,220 --> 00:41:25,980 there may have been a security problem. 796 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:27,820 But for him, 797 00:41:28,420 --> 00:41:30,980 human need, human compassion, 798 00:41:31,460 --> 00:41:33,380 caring for someone you love 799 00:41:33,380 --> 00:41:35,300 trumped the security system. 800 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,180 NARRATOR: The FBI feared that Tatlock 801 00:41:39,180 --> 00:41:42,020 might be passing atomic secrets to the Russians. 802 00:41:42,940 --> 00:41:44,280 They tapped her phone, 803 00:41:44,620 --> 00:41:47,330 but persistent eavesdropping revealed nothing. 804 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,340 Six months after Oppenheimer's visit, 805 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,020 Jean Tatlock killed herself. 806 00:41:55,940 --> 00:41:58,080 "I am disgusted with everything," 807 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,540 she wrote in an unsigned note. 808 00:42:01,340 --> 00:42:03,440 "To those who loved me and helped me, 809 00:42:03,720 --> 00:42:05,300 all love and courage. 810 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,400 "I wanted to live and to give, 811 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,180 and I got paralyzed. 812 00:42:10,820 --> 00:42:12,940 "I tried like hell to understand 813 00:42:13,220 --> 00:42:14,140 and couldn't. 814 00:42:15,020 --> 00:42:17,560 "I think I would have been a liability all my life. 815 00:42:18,500 --> 00:42:21,800 "At least I could take away the burden of a paralyzed soul 816 00:42:22,180 --> 00:42:23,580 from a fighting world." 817 00:42:24,500 --> 00:42:28,670 You have said that you knew she had been a Communist? 818 00:42:29,620 --> 00:42:32,480 Yes. I knew that in the fall of 1937. 819 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,200 Was there any reason for you to believe 820 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,720 that she wasn't still a Communist in 1943? 821 00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:37,080 No. 822 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:37,820 Pardon? 823 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,340 There wasn't. I do not know what she was doing in 1943. 824 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,960 You had no reason to believe she wasn't a Communist, did you? 825 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:46,080 No. 826 00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:53,840 You spent the night with her, 827 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:54,580 didn't you? 828 00:42:57,860 --> 00:42:58,660 Yes. 829 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,020 That is when you were working on a secret war project? 830 00:43:03,540 --> 00:43:04,300 Yes. 831 00:43:05,860 --> 00:43:08,080 You have told us, this morning, 832 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,640 that you thought that at times 833 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,780 social contacts with Communists 834 00:43:13,780 --> 00:43:17,600 on the part of one working on a secret war project 835 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,060 was dangerous. 836 00:43:19,620 --> 00:43:21,460 Could conceivably be. 837 00:43:22,260 --> 00:43:24,420 You didn't think spending a night 838 00:43:24,420 --> 00:43:26,260 with a dedicated Communist... 839 00:43:26,260 --> 00:43:28,830 I don't believe she was a dedicated Communist. 840 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:30,700 You don't? 841 00:43:30,700 --> 00:43:31,540 No. 842 00:43:49,900 --> 00:43:52,800 NARRATOR: Five weeks after Oppenheimer's visit to Tatlock, 843 00:43:52,980 --> 00:43:56,320 General Groves rammed through his security clearance. 844 00:43:57,060 --> 00:43:59,080 But Oppenheimer continued to operate 845 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,800 under a shadow of suspicion, 846 00:44:01,220 --> 00:44:05,500 and by the summer of 1943, the pressure began to tell. 847 00:44:06,180 --> 00:44:09,050 That August, Oppenheimer volunteered to talk 848 00:44:09,050 --> 00:44:10,870 with Colonel Boris Pash, 849 00:44:11,070 --> 00:44:13,950 chief of Army counterintelligence for the West Coast. 850 00:44:14,750 --> 00:44:17,160 He had begun to worry about his conversation 851 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,380 with his friend Haakon Chevalier. 852 00:44:20,150 --> 00:44:22,940 He realized that he should have reported it at once, 853 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,310 but he still didn't want to get his old friend in trouble. 854 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,220 BORIS PASH, Colonel US MI: General Groves has, more or less, I feel, 855 00:44:29,220 --> 00:44:30,680 BORIS PASH, Colonel US MI: placed a certain responsibility in me. 856 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,570 I don't mean to take up too much of your time. 857 00:44:33,100 --> 00:44:34,350 OPPENHEIMER: That's perfectly all right. 858 00:44:34,460 --> 00:44:36,000 Whatever time you choose. 859 00:44:37,770 --> 00:44:39,460 I have no firsthand knowledge, 860 00:44:40,060 --> 00:44:42,260 but a man attached to the Soviet Consul 861 00:44:42,460 --> 00:44:46,530 has indicated indirectly through an intermediary 862 00:44:46,710 --> 00:44:49,310 that he was in a position to transmit information. 863 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,460 I think it might not hurt to be on the lookout for it. 864 00:44:54,110 --> 00:44:56,080 If you wanted to watch him, 865 00:44:56,620 --> 00:44:58,480 I think it would be the appropriate thing to do. 866 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,370 His name is Eltenton. 867 00:45:01,580 --> 00:45:04,800 NARRATOR: Oppenheimer had simply wanted to alert Army intelligence 868 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,480 that Eltenton might be a threat, 869 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,260 but Pash did not trust Oppenheimer 870 00:45:09,660 --> 00:45:11,300 and his left-wing past. 871 00:45:13,500 --> 00:45:16,200 He hid a microphone in the telephone receiver 872 00:45:16,500 --> 00:45:18,940 and recorded their entire conversation. 873 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:24,320 Oppenheimer had no idea that everything he said was set down, 874 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,820 transcribed and added to his security file, 875 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,460 where it would be unearthed years later 876 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,660 with disastrous consequences. 877 00:45:33,660 --> 00:45:35,560 OPPENHEIMER: There were approaches to other people 878 00:45:36,140 --> 00:45:37,720 who were troubled by them 879 00:45:37,720 --> 00:45:40,240 and sometimes they came and discussed them with me. 880 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,020 And that's as far as I can go on that. 881 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,280 BORIS PASH, Colonel US MI: These people, were they contacted directly by Eltenton? 882 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:46,960 OPPENHEIMER: No. 883 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,980 BORIS PASH, Colonel US MI: Oh, through another party? 884 00:45:50,740 --> 00:45:51,460 Yes. 885 00:45:53,220 --> 00:45:54,040 Well, now, 886 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,110 could we know through whom that contact was made? 887 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,040 I think it would be a mistake. 888 00:45:58,340 --> 00:46:00,820 Oppenheimer makes up this complicated story 889 00:46:00,820 --> 00:46:05,400 so that the security people are looking all over the place, 890 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,580 and they won't finger Robert and they won't finger Chevalier. 891 00:46:09,720 --> 00:46:11,420 He evidently hadn't learned to think 892 00:46:11,420 --> 00:46:12,840 the way security people think. 893 00:46:14,140 --> 00:46:17,020 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: Every time he said something else, he just made it worse. 894 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:18,740 Pash ended up, of course, 895 00:46:18,740 --> 00:46:21,000 believing Oppenheimer was a Communist spy. 896 00:46:21,100 --> 00:46:23,380 OPPENHEIMER: But I think in mentioning Eltenton's name, 897 00:46:23,380 --> 00:46:26,280 I essentially said that he may be acting in a way 898 00:46:26,350 --> 00:46:27,710 which is dangerous to the country 899 00:46:27,780 --> 00:46:29,380 and which should be watched. 900 00:46:29,980 --> 00:46:33,180 I'm not going to mention anyone else's name in the same breath. 901 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:35,480 I just can't do that. 902 00:46:41,900 --> 00:46:44,960 NARRATOR: Oppenheimer quickly put the whole incident behind him. 903 00:46:45,540 --> 00:46:46,900 There was too much work to do. 904 00:46:49,020 --> 00:46:51,860 Los Alamos was growing into a bustling town 905 00:46:51,980 --> 00:46:53,310 with thousands of people. 906 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,800 He had wildly underestimated the magnitude of the job. 907 00:47:01,300 --> 00:47:02,620 But he was thriving. 908 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,320 In spite of the initial doubts of his scientific colleagues, 909 00:47:06,540 --> 00:47:08,660 he was proving that he was more than up 910 00:47:08,660 --> 00:47:10,300 to the enormous task. 911 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,860 MARVIN L. GOLDBERGER, Physicist: He showed an ability to motivate and inspire 912 00:47:15,260 --> 00:47:17,020 that, I think, surprised everyone. 913 00:47:17,420 --> 00:47:20,580 ROY J. GLAUBER, Physicist: Everyone loved him because he was everywhere. 914 00:47:20,980 --> 00:47:23,500 He understood all of these 915 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:25,500 absurdly 916 00:47:25,860 --> 00:47:28,360 difficult and intractable problems, 917 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,940 and he often had witty things to say about them. 918 00:47:32,540 --> 00:47:35,420 HAROLD AGNEW, Physicist: He had a certain charisma, a certain charm, 919 00:47:35,580 --> 00:47:37,240 a certain flair. 920 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,040 He had a robin's egg blue convertible Cadillac, you know. 921 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,840 And if you're a young kid, and here's the boss, 922 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,660 and he's driving around with his porkpie hat 923 00:47:46,660 --> 00:47:50,320 and his tweed jacket and cigarette always, 924 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:51,520 you know, like in the movies. 925 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:52,840 You know, you're impressed. 926 00:47:53,540 --> 00:47:55,900 ROY J. GLAUBER, Physicist: Oppenheimer inspired everyone. 927 00:47:56,240 --> 00:47:58,860 He expressed the intellectual essence 928 00:47:58,860 --> 00:48:00,370 of what we were doing, 929 00:48:01,260 --> 00:48:03,440 the deepest sense of what it was. 930 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,460 MARVIN L. GOLDBERGER, Physicist: I don't know in retrospect who could have done it better; 931 00:48:07,460 --> 00:48:09,160 who could have pulled that gang-- 932 00:48:09,420 --> 00:48:11,950 80% of which were prima donnas of their own. 933 00:48:12,420 --> 00:48:14,280 Could have pulled that gang together and 934 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,140 and made them work as a... as a unit. 935 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,720 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: In being the director of this historic laboratory, 936 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:30,840 Oppenheimer found his greatest and most natural role. 937 00:48:31,770 --> 00:48:34,440 He was cruel to people before the war. 938 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,640 He was cruel to people after the war, 939 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,240 but he wasn't cruel to people during the war. 940 00:48:40,380 --> 00:48:44,040 The period at Los Alamos was the only time in his life 941 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,880 when he wasn't plagued by existential doubt, 942 00:48:47,060 --> 00:48:50,640 when all the parts came together and worked together. 943 00:48:51,820 --> 00:48:54,160 It was the first chance he'd ever had 944 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,180 to serve the country and forget himself. 945 00:48:59,720 --> 00:49:02,440 NARRATOR: Oppenheimer shaped an array of brilliant, 946 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,180 eccentric scientists into a team. 947 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:10,280 The Hungarian refugee Edward Teller was his biggest problem. 948 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,940 ROY J. GLAUBER, Physicist: Teller was always an ebullient scientist. 949 00:49:16,940 --> 00:49:19,440 Very bright, quite impatient. 950 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,380 When I showed up at Los Alamos, 951 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,840 I saw this name chalked next to the door: 952 00:49:28,580 --> 00:49:30,200 E. Teller, 953 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,040 but there was no one in the office. 954 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,340 I learned that he was rather unhappy 955 00:49:36,340 --> 00:49:40,020 that he had not been chosen as leader of the theory division 956 00:49:40,020 --> 00:49:42,440 and had gone off in a huff. 957 00:49:43,580 --> 00:49:48,380 His passion from the very first was to create 958 00:49:48,580 --> 00:49:51,300 what he called "the Zupa," the super-bomb. 959 00:49:51,820 --> 00:49:54,640 NARRATOR: The "super" was a hydrogen bomb, 960 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,200 a weapon with nearly unlimited destructive power. 961 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,200 But since a hydrogen bomb would need 962 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,260 an atomic bomb to set it off, 963 00:50:02,500 --> 00:50:05,900 Oppenheimer gave Teller's super a low priority. 964 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,040 Oppenheimer, said, "No, no, we got enough on our hands. 965 00:50:09,260 --> 00:50:10,840 "We're not going to, we're not going to... 966 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,360 "we got to make the hy... we got to make the atomic bomb. 967 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:14,340 "That's what we're going to do. 968 00:50:14,340 --> 00:50:15,410 "That's our job 969 00:50:15,620 --> 00:50:17,360 and that's what we're going to focus on." 970 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:18,940 NARRATOR: Teller threatened to quit 971 00:50:19,010 --> 00:50:22,840 until Oppenheimer relented and let him work independently 972 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,760 to try and design his super-bomb, 973 00:50:26,540 --> 00:50:29,300 but there would always be bad blood between them. 974 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:30,960 MARVIN L. GOLDBERGER, Physicist: Teller was obsessive. 975 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,800 MARVIN L. GOLDBERGER, Physicist: He would not accept Oppenheimer's judgment 976 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,740 about the feasibility of this project. 977 00:50:35,980 --> 00:50:38,140 He was not a crackpot or anything like that. 978 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,800 He was an excellent physicist, 979 00:50:41,720 --> 00:50:45,340 but he got off on something that was simply wrong, 980 00:50:45,720 --> 00:50:47,240 and he couldn't let it go. 981 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,540 Teller never forgave Oppenheimer, 982 00:50:49,540 --> 00:50:50,600 and, uh... 983 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:53,240 he paid him back... 984 00:50:55,620 --> 00:50:56,850 unfortunately. 985 00:51:00,100 --> 00:51:02,080 NARRATOR: By summer of 1944, 986 00:51:02,220 --> 00:51:04,520 the enormous burden of responsibility 987 00:51:04,700 --> 00:51:06,400 had begun to take its toll. 988 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,520 Losing weight, afflicted with a rasping cough, 989 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,000 Oppenheimer chain-smoked his way 990 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,320 through increasingly demanding months. 991 00:51:16,900 --> 00:51:19,020 Kitty was an additional burden. 992 00:51:19,740 --> 00:51:22,900 She refused to take on the role of the director's wife 993 00:51:23,340 --> 00:51:25,740 and found herself at loose ends. 994 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,740 After their second child was born 995 00:51:28,740 --> 00:51:32,140 in the Los Alamos Hospital, a girl they named Toni, 996 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,020 she became even more distracted. 997 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:37,420 She was drinking hard, 998 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,720 on the verge of emotional collapse 999 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,030 while Oppenheimer was preoccupied, 1000 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,660 desperately pushing the project forward. 1001 00:51:45,580 --> 00:51:48,170 For me it was a time so filled with work, 1002 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,340 with the need for decision and action and consultation, 1003 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,360 there was room for little else. 1004 00:51:54,820 --> 00:51:57,960 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: They had to invent all these new technologies 1005 00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:59,700 in these very short months 1006 00:51:59,700 --> 00:52:02,580 from the summer of '44 to the summer of '45. 1007 00:52:02,860 --> 00:52:04,760 Oppenheimer nearly broke down. 1008 00:52:05,300 --> 00:52:07,120 He was really depressed. 1009 00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:08,280 He thought he'd blown it. 1010 00:52:08,540 --> 00:52:11,620 He thought they had found themselves at a dead end. 1011 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:13,660 ROY J. GLAUBER, Physicist: It was devilishly difficult 1012 00:52:13,660 --> 00:52:15,120 ROY J. GLAUBER, Physicist: grappling with problems 1013 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,320 which were on the edge of absurdity. 1014 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,680 Just imagine trying to find out 1015 00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,040 what's going on within an explosion 1016 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,220 all of which is over in less than a thousandth of a second. 1017 00:52:25,500 --> 00:52:27,810 He seriously considered leaving the project, 1018 00:52:28,220 --> 00:52:30,380 and one of his friends finally took him aside 1019 00:52:30,380 --> 00:52:31,540 and said, "Robert, you can't leave. 1020 00:52:31,540 --> 00:52:33,060 "You're the only person who can make this happen. 1021 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,340 You have to stay. I don't care what you think." 1022 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:36,640 And he did stay. 1023 00:52:37,140 --> 00:52:39,340 The consensus of all our opinions 1024 00:52:39,860 --> 00:52:41,360 and every directive I had 1025 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,220 stressed the extreme urgency of the work. 1026 00:52:44,780 --> 00:52:48,200 Time and time again we had in the technical work 1027 00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,200 almost paralyzing crises. 1028 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,960 Time and again the laboratory drew itself together 1029 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,100 and we faced the new problems and got on with the work. 1030 00:52:57,540 --> 00:52:59,520 We worked by night and by day. 1031 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,680 NARRATOR: While Oppenheimer and his team raced on, 1032 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,380 the war against Japan and Germany 1033 00:53:07,540 --> 00:53:09,460 was reaching a bloody climax. 1034 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,820 On May 7, 1945, 1035 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:14,820 the Nazis surrendered. 1036 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:19,040 The race with Germany to build the bomb was over. 1037 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:31,440 ROY J. GLAUBER, Physicist: We had joined this project fearing that the Germans 1038 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,040 were working on trying to produce a bomb 1039 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,440 and if they succeeded in reaching it before we did, 1040 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,840 they wouldn't be very sentimental about using it. 1041 00:53:41,660 --> 00:53:43,520 MARTIN SHERWIN, Historian: When Germany surrenders, 1042 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,700 the bomb is several months away from being built. 1043 00:53:46,820 --> 00:53:49,080 And the question is, should we continue? 1044 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,020 Is it the right thing to do? 1045 00:53:51,020 --> 00:53:51,940 Is it ethical? 1046 00:53:53,580 --> 00:53:58,620 We never heard any suggestion from Oppenheimer that uh... 1047 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,120 there was any course other than continuing. 1048 00:54:02,740 --> 00:54:05,160 There was a kind of momentum involved 1049 00:54:05,240 --> 00:54:08,880 in our efforts in this direction. 1050 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,600 It was an enormous project. 1051 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,160 We were all deeply involved in 1052 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,500 finding out whether the darn thing would work. 1053 00:54:16,980 --> 00:54:19,320 When you see something that is technically sweet, 1054 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,060 you go ahead and do it 1055 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:23,840 and you argue about what to do about it 1056 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,340 only after you have had your technical success. 1057 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,740 NARRATOR: Caught up in the momentum of the project, 1058 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,260 driven by the desire to finish the job he had begun, 1059 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,220 Oppenheimer was determined to see it through. 1060 00:54:38,660 --> 00:54:41,500 "This might help to convince everybody," he argued, 1061 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,820 "that the next war would be fatal. 1062 00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:45,700 "For this purpose, 1063 00:54:45,700 --> 00:54:47,280 actual combat use 1064 00:54:47,660 --> 00:54:49,180 might even be the best thing." 1065 00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,680 He rejected the idea of demonstrating the bomb first. 1066 00:54:55,900 --> 00:54:57,720 HERBERT YORK, Physicist: If you have a demonstration, 1067 00:54:57,720 --> 00:55:00,460 what it is is a fantastic firework 1068 00:55:00,900 --> 00:55:02,300 with nobody getting hurt. 1069 00:55:02,780 --> 00:55:04,620 What's important about nuclear weapons 1070 00:55:04,620 --> 00:55:07,080 is not that it's fantastic fireworks. 1071 00:55:07,420 --> 00:55:09,100 What's important about nuclear weapons 1072 00:55:09,100 --> 00:55:10,580 is the fact they kill people. 1073 00:55:12,940 --> 00:55:15,500 NARRATOR: On May 31, 1945, 1074 00:55:15,620 --> 00:55:17,220 Oppenheimer joined a meeting 1075 00:55:17,220 --> 00:55:19,080 of high-ranking government officials, 1076 00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,360 scientists and military men. 1077 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,160 It was agreed that 1078 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,120 "the most desirable target 1079 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:28,750 "was a vital war plant 1080 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,520 "employing a large number of workers 1081 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,130 and closely surrounded by workers' houses." 1082 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,740 Oppenheimer made no objection. 1083 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,080 What worried him was whether the bomb would work. 1084 00:55:47,460 --> 00:55:50,940 The answer would come in New Mexico's Alamogordo desert, 1085 00:55:51,300 --> 00:55:54,940 the place the Spanish had called the Jornada del Muerto, 1086 00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,060 "The Journey of Death." 1087 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,020 On July 15, 1088 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,160 Oppenheimer climbed a 110-foot tower 1089 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:29,860 for one last look at the bomb. 1090 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:32,860 It would be tested the next day. 1091 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,340 He was down to 115 pounds, 1092 00:56:37,500 --> 00:56:39,420 tense, on edge. 1093 00:56:40,500 --> 00:56:43,240 ROY J. GLAUBER, Physicist: There was great tension about the test, 1094 00:56:43,240 --> 00:56:46,160 great uncertainty whether it would work 1095 00:56:46,170 --> 00:56:48,800 or produce a pathetic fizzle. 1096 00:56:49,100 --> 00:56:52,020 This had never been done before, and it was a... 1097 00:56:52,180 --> 00:56:55,320 no one had a clear picture at all of what to expect. 1098 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,480 NARRATOR: The evening before the test, someone recalled, 1099 00:57:01,700 --> 00:57:04,840 "The frogs had gathered in a little pond by the camp 1100 00:57:05,020 --> 00:57:08,060 and copulated and squawked all night long." 1101 00:57:10,180 --> 00:57:12,380 Oppenheimer chain-smoked nervously 1102 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,360 and sat quietly reading the French poet Baudelaire. 1103 00:57:17,780 --> 00:57:19,240 OPPENHEIMER: Seductive twilight, 1104 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,480 the criminal's friend. 1105 00:57:22,140 --> 00:57:23,640 Silent like a wolf. 1106 00:57:24,380 --> 00:57:26,260 The sky is closing down. 1107 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:30,740 A dark cloth drawn across an alcove. 1108 00:57:31,300 --> 00:57:34,520 Where the impatient man changes 1109 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,560 into a beast of prey. 1110 00:57:39,660 --> 00:57:42,640 NARRATOR: At 5:10, the countdown began 1111 00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,190 at zero minus 20 minutes. 1112 00:57:49,620 --> 00:57:53,220 As loudspeakers ticked off the time at five-minute intervals, 1113 00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,320 Oppenheimer wandered in and out of the control bunker, 1114 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:57,760 glancing up at the sky. 1115 00:57:59,420 --> 00:58:00,760 At the two-minute mark, 1116 00:58:00,940 --> 00:58:02,660 he was heard to say to himself, 1117 00:58:03,540 --> 00:58:06,500 "Lord, these affairs are hard on the heart." 1118 00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:10,220 Minus one minute. 1119 00:58:11,940 --> 00:58:13,740 Minus 55 seconds. 1120 00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,340 ROBERT CHRISTY, Physicist: We were given a piece of welder's glass 1121 00:58:17,460 --> 00:58:18,920 to hold in front of our eyes, 1122 00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:22,000 so that we could look at it without being blinded. 1123 00:58:23,340 --> 00:58:25,920 It was pitch-dark outside, just before dawn. 1124 00:58:26,300 --> 00:58:27,380 A lot of tension. 1125 00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:35,660 NARRATOR: Oppenheimer lay on his stomach, his face dreamy, withdrawn. 1126 00:58:36,900 --> 00:58:39,600 "He grew tenser as the last seconds ticked off," 1127 00:58:39,780 --> 00:58:41,420 an Army general remembered. 1128 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,180 "He scarcely breathed. 1129 00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:45,480 "For the last few seconds, 1130 00:58:45,860 --> 00:58:47,440 he stared directly ahead." 1131 00:58:52,460 --> 00:58:56,500 (explosion) 1132 00:59:03,140 --> 00:59:05,760 ROBERT CHRISTY, Physicist: There was a brilliant flash like daylight outside. 1133 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,560 Suddenly, from pitch-dark to daylight over a huge area. 1134 00:59:10,260 --> 00:59:13,240 There was this rapidly expanding glowing sphere 1135 00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,960 with swirling, dark clouds in it. 1136 00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:20,540 And finally as it dimmed, you could see on the outside 1137 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,690 a faint blue glow. 1138 00:59:23,260 --> 00:59:24,940 It was simply fantastic. 1139 00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,820 NARRATOR: "It worked," was all that Oppenheimer said. 1140 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:33,900 "It worked." 1141 00:59:34,780 --> 00:59:36,440 ROY J. GLAUBER, Physicist: We were just awestruck. 1142 00:59:36,580 --> 00:59:38,400 There it was. It had happened. 1143 00:59:38,940 --> 00:59:41,320 The test was evidently a success. 1144 00:59:41,780 --> 00:59:46,120 But we had no idea when the next thing would happen. 1145 00:59:47,180 --> 00:59:49,460 Nobody had said to us 1146 00:59:49,460 --> 00:59:52,120 that a bomb had already been shipped out. 1147 00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,280 There was total silence, 1148 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:56,540 fear and tension. 1149 00:59:56,540 --> 00:59:57,820 Now we're into something. 1150 00:59:57,820 --> 01:00:01,020 Now who knows what's going to ensue? 1151 01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,220 We heard not a single word 1152 01:00:05,100 --> 01:00:06,700 until the sixth of August. 1153 01:00:07,220 --> 01:00:12,720 (explosion) 1154 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,040 NARRATOR: On August 6, 1945, 1155 01:00:19,460 --> 01:00:23,200 the United States exploded an atomic bomb over Hiroshima, 1156 01:00:23,780 --> 01:00:26,800 a city with a population of 350,000. 1157 01:00:29,060 --> 01:00:30,520 Even before the blast, 1158 01:00:30,700 --> 01:00:32,880 Oppenheimer had been darkly mourning. 1159 01:00:33,620 --> 01:00:35,980 "Those poor little people," he said. 1160 01:00:36,900 --> 01:00:38,300 "Those poor little people." 1161 01:00:40,460 --> 01:00:43,320 Yet, he had given the military precise instructions 1162 01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,500 to ensure that the weapon would be delivered on target. 1163 01:00:48,020 --> 01:00:50,120 "No radar bombing," he wrote. 1164 01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:51,940 "It must be dropped visually. 1165 01:00:52,340 --> 01:00:54,540 "Don't let them detonate it too high 1166 01:00:54,540 --> 01:00:57,060 or the target won't get as much damage." 1167 01:01:02,940 --> 01:01:05,020 Oppenheimer was of two minds. 1168 01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,200 His success had been exhilarating, 1169 01:01:08,620 --> 01:01:11,420 but he was in anguish over the human costs. 1170 01:01:13,820 --> 01:01:16,440 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: There's no doubt that there was ambivalence about it. 1171 01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:21,500 I think Oppenheimer saw the question in all its complexity. 1172 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:23,840 It wasn't so simple as, 1173 01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,340 "Was he guilty about building such a weapon?" 1174 01:01:28,060 --> 01:01:31,260 He understood that the bomb was going to change history. 1175 01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,280 He might have hoped that there was some other way 1176 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,140 to demonstrate its effectiveness. 1177 01:01:37,980 --> 01:01:39,300 They knew what they were making. 1178 01:01:39,300 --> 01:01:40,800 They knew it was going to kill a lot of people. 1179 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:42,400 They didn't like that aspect of it, 1180 01:01:42,940 --> 01:01:44,030 but there you were. 1181 01:01:44,500 --> 01:01:46,920 (explosion) 1182 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:52,300 NARRATOR: The second atomic bomb, 1183 01:01:52,500 --> 01:01:55,460 exploded over Nagasaki on August 9, 1184 01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:59,180 left him morose, consumed by doubts, 1185 01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:01,560 fast sinking into depression. 1186 01:02:03,460 --> 01:02:05,760 "This undertaking," he wrote a friend, 1187 01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,160 "has not been without its misgivings. 1188 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:10,600 "They are heavy on us today, 1189 01:02:11,500 --> 01:02:12,560 "when the future, 1190 01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,830 "which has so many elements of high promise, 1191 01:02:16,380 --> 01:02:19,280 is yet only a stone's throw from despair." 1192 01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,620 "Some of you will have seen photographs 1193 01:02:34,620 --> 01:02:36,260 of the Nagasaki strike," 1194 01:02:36,260 --> 01:02:38,880 he told the American Philosophical Society 1195 01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:40,520 three months after the blast. 1196 01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,160 "Seen the great steel girders of factories 1197 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,220 twisted and wrecked." 1198 01:02:48,460 --> 01:02:51,080 "Atomic weapons are weapons of aggression, 1199 01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,880 "of surprise, and of terror. 1200 01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:56,700 "If they are ever used again, 1201 01:02:56,900 --> 01:02:58,940 "it may well be by the thousands, 1202 01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,720 or perhaps by the tens of thousands." 1203 01:03:06,100 --> 01:03:10,500 MARTIN SHERWIN, Historian: He was a great supporter of using the bomb, 1204 01:03:10,860 --> 01:03:13,520 but he understood all along 1205 01:03:13,860 --> 01:03:19,740 that he was on the cusp of a new terror... 1206 01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,090 ...even at the moment 1207 01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:27,000 when the scientists believed 1208 01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:28,740 that there was no other choice. 1209 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:35,180 They knew that most of the people killed were civilians. 1210 01:03:35,180 --> 01:03:37,720 They knew that the targets 1211 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,480 for these bombs were the centers of cities. 1212 01:03:41,820 --> 01:03:45,200 It's a very heavy burden 1213 01:03:45,380 --> 01:03:48,080 that he carries into the postwar period, 1214 01:03:48,220 --> 01:03:51,000 after Hiroshima and Nagasaki are destroyed. 1215 01:03:52,980 --> 01:03:55,860 I have been asked whether in the years to come, 1216 01:03:55,860 --> 01:03:59,980 it will be possible to kill 40 million American people 1217 01:04:00,180 --> 01:04:02,820 in the 20 largest American towns 1218 01:04:03,740 --> 01:04:07,040 by the use of atomic bombs in a single night. 1219 01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,660 I am afraid that the answer to that question is yes. 1220 01:04:14,020 --> 01:04:15,340 NARRATOR: In 1945, 1221 01:04:15,540 --> 01:04:17,860 America was the only country in the world 1222 01:04:17,860 --> 01:04:19,200 with the atomic bomb. 1223 01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,340 President Harry Truman believed that national security 1224 01:04:23,340 --> 01:04:26,760 depended on keeping nuclear technology secret. 1225 01:04:32,220 --> 01:04:36,060 Oppenheimer, along with nearly every other nuclear scientist, 1226 01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:37,180 disagreed. 1227 01:04:38,300 --> 01:04:41,520 OPPENHEIMER, (TV Archive): I have been asked whether there is hope for the nation's security 1228 01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:45,140 in keeping secret some of the knowledge 1229 01:04:45,140 --> 01:04:47,560 which has gone into the making of the bombs. 1230 01:04:48,620 --> 01:04:50,600 I am afraid there is no such hope. 1231 01:04:52,020 --> 01:04:53,940 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: President Truman really did seem to feel 1232 01:04:53,940 --> 01:04:55,940 that if you just kept the lid on enough, 1233 01:04:55,940 --> 01:04:57,240 we'd always have the secret 1234 01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:58,680 and no one else would ever get it. 1235 01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:00,400 There wasn't any secret. 1236 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:01,660 The secret was it worked. 1237 01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,720 NARRATOR: On October 25, 1945, 1238 01:05:11,180 --> 01:05:13,160 Oppenheimer met with President Truman 1239 01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:14,820 to share his concerns. 1240 01:05:19,060 --> 01:05:21,060 When the president assured his visitor 1241 01:05:21,060 --> 01:05:23,450 that the Soviets would never get the bomb, 1242 01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:25,840 Oppenheimer became frustrated. 1243 01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:28,920 "Mr. President," he said, 1244 01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:31,680 "I feel I have blood on my hands." 1245 01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,160 "Blood on his hands," Truman complained later. 1246 01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:39,180 "Damn it, he hasn't half as much blood on his hands as I have. 1247 01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:41,940 You just don't go around bellyaching about it." 1248 01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:45,480 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: It's not surprising 1249 01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:47,960 Truman just about threw him out of his office. 1250 01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:49,420 It was the president's decision. 1251 01:05:49,420 --> 01:05:51,040 It wasn't Oppenheimer's decision. 1252 01:05:52,020 --> 01:05:54,920 NARRATOR: Later, Truman told his secretary of state, 1253 01:05:55,700 --> 01:05:58,660 "I don't want to see that son of a bitch in this office again." 1254 01:06:03,620 --> 01:06:05,220 In the years after the war, 1255 01:06:05,500 --> 01:06:07,680 Robert Oppenheimer's fame grew. 1256 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,520 His name became a household word. 1257 01:06:11,300 --> 01:06:13,740 He was "the father of the A-bomb," 1258 01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:17,040 the government's top advisor on atomic weapons, 1259 01:06:17,060 --> 01:06:19,980 privy to all the nation's atomic secrets. 1260 01:06:21,180 --> 01:06:22,940 HERBERT YORK, Physicist: He was instantly famous. 1261 01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:25,560 Nuclear weapons, nuclear energy 1262 01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:26,560 and new things 1263 01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:28,780 such a surprise to nearly everyone, 1264 01:06:28,780 --> 01:06:30,600 that it was very widespread 1265 01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,600 to ask your local physicists, 1266 01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,360 "What does this all mean and what should we do?" 1267 01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,520 You know the Rotary clubs did it, 1268 01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:41,460 the Kiwanis did it, the PTAs, I mean, everybody. 1269 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,120 And not only that, whenever there was a... 1270 01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:45,700 anything in the papers about it, 1271 01:06:45,820 --> 01:06:48,120 it was always a "brilliant nuclear physicist." 1272 01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:49,620 There was no other kind. 1273 01:06:50,340 --> 01:06:52,740 Now, Oppenheimer was right at the top of it, 1274 01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,240 so it was the president or the Congress 1275 01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,360 or the senators or the UN, 1276 01:06:57,620 --> 01:06:58,680 you know, who asked him, 1277 01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:00,480 and for whom he gave his advice. 1278 01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:02,700 PRISCILLA J. McMILLAN, Writer: He was interested in power. 1279 01:07:02,700 --> 01:07:04,220 He was drawn to it. 1280 01:07:04,540 --> 01:07:08,640 He wanted to have a say in what became of those weapons. 1281 01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:12,060 He wasn't going to go back down on the farm 1282 01:07:12,380 --> 01:07:14,060 after he'd seen Paris. 1283 01:07:14,700 --> 01:07:17,840 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: He realized that he might turn this fame and power 1284 01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:19,920 into statesmanship. 1285 01:07:20,460 --> 01:07:23,640 That he might become the sort of philosopher-scientist, 1286 01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:25,320 and philosopher-statesman, 1287 01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:28,640 who could bring the rest of the message to government 1288 01:07:28,780 --> 01:07:31,060 about how you go about eliminating 1289 01:07:31,060 --> 01:07:32,440 nuclear weapons in the world. 1290 01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:34,920 Oppenheimer was naive in that. 1291 01:07:35,020 --> 01:07:37,480 He really thought that if he got inside, 1292 01:07:37,980 --> 01:07:39,500 he could change things. 1293 01:07:39,980 --> 01:07:41,660 Immediately after the war, 1294 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,700 I was deeply involved in the effort 1295 01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:46,660 to devise effective means 1296 01:07:46,660 --> 01:07:49,340 for the international control of atomic weapons. 1297 01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:53,640 NARRATOR: In 1946, Oppenheimer hammered out the details 1298 01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:55,180 of a visionary proposal 1299 01:07:55,300 --> 01:07:58,470 with some of America's most distinguished statesmen. 1300 01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:01,660 The plan was designed to put atomic energy 1301 01:08:01,660 --> 01:08:04,380 into the hands of an international agency, 1302 01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:08,100 controlling uranium mines, atomic power plants 1303 01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:09,940 and atomic laboratories. 1304 01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,420 HERBERT YORK, Physicist: It involved giving up nuclear weapons 1305 01:08:12,580 --> 01:08:16,160 and internationalizing the entire nuclear enterprise. 1306 01:08:16,620 --> 01:08:18,280 And Oppenheimer writes, 1307 01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:21,780 "We know that people will say, 'This is impossible. 1308 01:08:21,780 --> 01:08:23,180 You can't do this.' 1309 01:08:23,660 --> 01:08:25,900 Our answer is, 'We must.'" 1310 01:08:28,940 --> 01:08:32,300 NARRATOR: But Oppenheimer's hope for an international accord 1311 01:08:32,460 --> 01:08:35,540 that would lead to the elimination of nuclear weapons 1312 01:08:35,540 --> 01:08:37,460 was facing fierce resistance, 1313 01:08:38,020 --> 01:08:40,400 foundering on the deepening antagonisms 1314 01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:42,220 between two former allies: 1315 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,540 the Soviet Union and the United States. 1316 01:08:51,580 --> 01:08:53,460 MARTIN SHERWIN, Historian: Oppenheimer believed that 1317 01:08:53,460 --> 01:08:55,180 if we could figure out 1318 01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:58,940 how to create a postwar period 1319 01:08:58,940 --> 01:09:02,440 in which the foundation of international affairs 1320 01:09:02,740 --> 01:09:05,120 was U.S. - Soviet cooperation, 1321 01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,420 the world would be a very different place. 1322 01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:13,440 NARRATOR: But the Soviet Army already occupied much of Eastern Europe. 1323 01:09:14,500 --> 01:09:17,800 Americans feared that Western Europe might be overrun. 1324 01:09:19,300 --> 01:09:22,600 Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin had fears of his own. 1325 01:09:23,180 --> 01:09:26,320 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: The Soviet Union was not about to let the United States 1326 01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:28,280 have a monopoly on these weapons. 1327 01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:29,780 They didn't trust us, 1328 01:09:30,380 --> 01:09:32,340 with reason. We had, after all, 1329 01:09:32,460 --> 01:09:34,160 built a weapon in secret, 1330 01:09:34,260 --> 01:09:38,280 telling our allies, Great Britain, but not telling our allies, the Soviet Union 1331 01:09:38,460 --> 01:09:40,160 and actually used the thing 1332 01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:42,940 on an enemy population. 1333 01:09:43,380 --> 01:09:45,160 Stalin had every reason to believe 1334 01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:46,840 that we would use it on him. 1335 01:09:49,100 --> 01:09:50,540 NARRATOR: In the face of opposition 1336 01:09:50,540 --> 01:09:53,100 from both the Soviets and the Americans, 1337 01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,840 Oppenheimer's plan to internationalize nuclear energy 1338 01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:58,340 went nowhere. 1339 01:09:59,060 --> 01:10:01,520 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: So, it was a brilliant and radical 1340 01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:04,940 and evidently premature idea. 1341 01:10:05,060 --> 01:10:07,500 Because national sovereignty trumped everything. 1342 01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:15,080 (explosion) 1343 01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,580 NARRATOR: On July 1, 1946, 1344 01:10:18,860 --> 01:10:22,880 the United States tested a 21,000-ton atomic bomb, 1345 01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:27,000 exploding it in Bikini Atoll in the Pacific Ocean. 1346 01:10:27,860 --> 01:10:31,360 Two months before, Oppenheimer had written President Truman 1347 01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,280 a letter opposing the tests. 1348 01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:35,660 Truman paid no attention, 1349 01:10:35,980 --> 01:10:39,340 calling Oppenheimer "that crybaby scientist." 1350 01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,860 By now, Oppenheimer was disillusioned 1351 01:10:43,860 --> 01:10:45,360 with America's efforts 1352 01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:47,740 to eliminate the threat of nuclear weapons, 1353 01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,820 but he was even more disillusioned with the Russians. 1354 01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:55,620 PRISCILLA J. McMILLAN, Writer: He saw how intransigent the Russians were going to be, 1355 01:10:55,700 --> 01:10:57,800 and he went into another mode 1356 01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,300 in his thinking about what should be done about the bomb. 1357 01:11:01,460 --> 01:11:04,600 He felt that what you had to do... 1358 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,340 instead of you had to accomplish the impossible, 1359 01:11:07,440 --> 01:11:10,640 what you had to do was accomplish another impossibility, 1360 01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,560 and that is live successfully and peacefully 1361 01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:15,000 with nuclear weapons. 1362 01:11:18,700 --> 01:11:21,980 NARRATOR: That fall, Oppenheimer was made a key advisor 1363 01:11:21,980 --> 01:11:24,680 to the newly created Atomic Energy Commission. 1364 01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:28,120 As chairman of its General Advisory Committee, 1365 01:11:28,480 --> 01:11:32,360 he reached what he described as a "melancholy" conclusion. 1366 01:11:35,500 --> 01:11:38,320 OPPENHEIMER: As the prospects of success receded 1367 01:11:38,480 --> 01:11:40,940 and as the evidence of Soviet hostility 1368 01:11:40,940 --> 01:11:43,320 and growing military power accumulated, 1369 01:11:43,580 --> 01:11:45,840 we were more and more to devote ourselves 1370 01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:50,480 to finding ways of adapting our atomic potential to offset the Soviet threat. 1371 01:11:51,300 --> 01:11:54,460 We concluded that the principal job of the Commission 1372 01:11:54,460 --> 01:11:56,620 was to provide atomic weapons 1373 01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:58,760 and good atomic weapons 1374 01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:00,710 and many atomic weapons. 1375 01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,700 NARRATOR: Oppenheimer was now a scientific statesman. 1376 01:12:08,660 --> 01:12:11,020 He had little time to be a scientist. 1377 01:12:13,380 --> 01:12:15,760 After the war, he had given up teaching 1378 01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:20,260 to become the director of the Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton, 1379 01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:23,340 a center for theoretical research, 1380 01:12:23,420 --> 01:12:26,840 renowned as the home of the most famous scientist in the world, 1381 01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:28,360 Albert Einstein. 1382 01:12:30,180 --> 01:12:33,700 But Oppenheimer rarely did any research himself anymore. 1383 01:12:34,380 --> 01:12:36,900 He published only a few scientific papers, 1384 01:12:37,140 --> 01:12:40,440 and after 1950, never published one again. 1385 01:12:41,580 --> 01:12:43,280 FREEMAN DYSON, Physicist: And that was a great grief to him. 1386 01:12:44,220 --> 01:12:48,180 He had had dreams of getting back into science and 1387 01:12:48,180 --> 01:12:50,340 doing something great while he was here. 1388 01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:55,520 His wife, Kitty, begged me if I couldn't actually work with Robert and 1389 01:12:56,020 --> 01:12:58,080 actually do some science with him, 1390 01:12:58,660 --> 01:12:59,900 and I never could. 1391 01:13:00,100 --> 01:13:01,720 Some... you know, it was... 1392 01:13:01,820 --> 01:13:04,060 he never got down to the nitty-gritty. 1393 01:13:04,340 --> 01:13:05,500 He was older. 1394 01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:07,240 What, he was 40? 1395 01:13:07,700 --> 01:13:11,780 He was past the age when people do their best scientific work. 1396 01:13:13,860 --> 01:13:16,440 NARRATOR: The popular press continued to depict him 1397 01:13:16,440 --> 01:13:18,900 as a scientist on the cutting edge 1398 01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:20,520 and a model American, 1399 01:13:21,440 --> 01:13:24,180 a happily married man with two small children 1400 01:13:24,180 --> 01:13:26,500 and a German shepherd called Buddy. 1401 01:13:29,260 --> 01:13:32,760 No one knew that he was under close surveillance by the FBI 1402 01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:35,460 because of his past ties to the Communist Party. 1403 01:13:36,100 --> 01:13:37,460 J. EDGAR HOOVER, (Archive): Communists have been, 1404 01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:39,980 still are, and always will be 1405 01:13:39,980 --> 01:13:43,120 a menace to freedom, to democratic ideals, 1406 01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:46,120 to the worship of God, and to America's way of life. 1407 01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,780 NARRATOR: With America's relationship with Russia deteriorating, 1408 01:13:49,900 --> 01:13:52,980 the fear of Communism seemed to be spreading everywhere, 1409 01:13:53,500 --> 01:13:55,840 and FBI director J. Edgar Hoover 1410 01:13:55,980 --> 01:13:58,660 continued to find Oppenheimer suspicious, 1411 01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:02,040 in spite of Oppenheimer's leadership at Los Alamos 1412 01:14:02,300 --> 01:14:03,940 and his immense reputation. 1413 01:14:04,260 --> 01:14:07,360 MARTIN SHERWIN, Historian: There were periods in which there was a letup, 1414 01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:11,200 but the FBI started to follow 1415 01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:16,660 and surveil Oppenheimer in about 1940, 1941, 1416 01:14:17,220 --> 01:14:18,660 and never stopped. 1417 01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:20,400 Never stopped. 1418 01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:29,980 NARRATOR: As the Soviets tightened their grip on Eastern Europe, 1419 01:14:30,180 --> 01:14:32,000 the hunt for Communist spies 1420 01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:34,430 was becoming a national obsession. 1421 01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:39,360 PRISCILLA J. McMILLAN, Writer: Looked at from outside, 1422 01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:42,240 the United States was the most powerful country in the world, 1423 01:14:42,480 --> 01:14:44,080 but in the U.S., 1424 01:14:44,500 --> 01:14:50,160 there was this awareness that the Russians had walked all over Eastern Europe 1425 01:14:50,460 --> 01:14:53,080 and that Communism was being foisted 1426 01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:55,020 on the peoples of those countries, 1427 01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:59,500 and that was terrifying to the American public. 1428 01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:03,080 And it wasn't long before there were politicians 1429 01:15:03,420 --> 01:15:05,740 who learned to exploit that fear. 1430 01:15:07,460 --> 01:15:09,800 NARRATOR: The House Un-American Activities Committee 1431 01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:12,020 had begun investigating what they called 1432 01:15:12,300 --> 01:15:15,580 the Communist threat to the American way of life. 1433 01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:20,060 In June 1949, it subpoenaed Oppenheimer. 1434 01:15:21,580 --> 01:15:24,340 The famous scientist tried to charm the congressmen. 1435 01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:29,480 When they asked, he confirmed the names of Communist Party members. 1436 01:15:30,220 --> 01:15:31,980 Some had been his students. 1437 01:15:34,500 --> 01:15:38,360 Later, he said that his nerve just gave way. 1438 01:15:39,300 --> 01:15:42,120 FREEMAN DYSON, Physicist: It looked as though he was just trying to save his own skin by 1439 01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:43,920 incriminating the students. 1440 01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:45,900 To me, it was horrible. 1441 01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:51,700 PRISCILLA J. McMILLAN, Writer: He must have sensed that the flames could 1442 01:15:52,020 --> 01:15:53,880 get to him sometime. 1443 01:15:54,220 --> 01:15:56,700 And it wasn't clear to him what he should do. 1444 01:15:57,860 --> 01:16:01,640 NARRATOR: That same June, Oppenheimer appeared before Congress again, 1445 01:16:01,900 --> 01:16:04,500 but this time, made a formidable enemy. 1446 01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:08,180 Lewis Strauss 1447 01:16:08,180 --> 01:16:11,060 was the president of the Institute for Advanced Study. 1448 01:16:11,500 --> 01:16:14,180 He had hired Oppenheimer as its director. 1449 01:16:14,940 --> 01:16:18,000 Strauss was also a member of the Atomic Energy Commission. 1450 01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:22,540 A self-made millionaire, ambitious, proud, 1451 01:16:23,140 --> 01:16:26,910 fiercely anti-Communist, he did not like to be crossed. 1452 01:16:27,980 --> 01:16:30,340 "If you disagree with Lewis about anything," 1453 01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:32,760 a fellow atomic energy commissioner said, 1454 01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,580 "he assumes you're just a fool at first, 1455 01:16:36,340 --> 01:16:38,140 "but if you go on disagreeing with him, 1456 01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:41,480 he concludes you must be a traitor." 1457 01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:46,380 Oppenheimer and Strauss clashed over a minor issue 1458 01:16:46,380 --> 01:16:47,880 at a congressional hearing, 1459 01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:50,120 and Strauss never forgave him. 1460 01:16:50,700 --> 01:16:54,020 OPPENHEIMER,(Archival): My opinion is that if the determination were made 1461 01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:56,800 that isotopes should not be shipped abroad, 1462 01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:00,240 the Congress will be making a profound mistake. 1463 01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:03,080 NARRATOR: Oppenheimer was testifying in support 1464 01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:05,700 of exporting radioisotopes to Europe 1465 01:17:05,980 --> 01:17:08,140 while Strauss looked on, seething. 1466 01:17:09,260 --> 01:17:11,160 Strauss violently disagreed, 1467 01:17:11,340 --> 01:17:14,560 fearing that the isotopes might fall into the hands of Russia. 1468 01:17:15,580 --> 01:17:17,700 In a reckless display of arrogance, 1469 01:17:17,980 --> 01:17:21,280 Oppenheimer aimed a jibe directly at Strauss, 1470 01:17:21,620 --> 01:17:23,960 telling the congressmen that radioisotopes 1471 01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:27,700 were no more dangerous than a shovel or a bottle of beer. 1472 01:17:28,440 --> 01:17:30,000 MARTIN SHERWIN, Historian: And everybody laughed, 1473 01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:33,080 and a journalist said he looked over at Lewis Strauss, 1474 01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:34,840 who had turned beet red. 1475 01:17:35,460 --> 01:17:39,200 He had never seen so much hate and anger 1476 01:17:39,380 --> 01:17:43,200 on anyone's face as he saw on Strauss's face at that moment. 1477 01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:47,800 PRISCILLA J. McMILLAN, Writer: Strauss was very sensitive to criticism. 1478 01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:49,720 If he didn't like people, 1479 01:17:50,580 --> 01:17:51,920 he dealt with them. 1480 01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:54,160 And he had a long memory. 1481 01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,580 He could deal with them a long time afterward, 1482 01:17:57,020 --> 01:17:59,320 um, if he wanted to. 1483 01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:02,900 (explosion) 1484 01:18:03,900 --> 01:18:06,280 NARRATOR: On August 29, 1949, 1485 01:18:06,480 --> 01:18:09,600 the Soviet Union tested its first atomic bomb. 1486 01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:13,650 America was still the most powerful nation on earth, 1487 01:18:14,220 --> 01:18:17,680 but the confidence of many of its citizens was shattered. 1488 01:18:20,740 --> 01:18:23,160 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: There was near-hysteria in Washington. 1489 01:18:24,980 --> 01:18:27,720 People were running around screaming, "The sky is falling." 1490 01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:29,700 Now, why would they do that? 1491 01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:33,880 If you've got all of your eggs in the basket that it's a secret, 1492 01:18:34,220 --> 01:18:35,860 and then the secret is lost, 1493 01:18:35,860 --> 01:18:37,720 then of course you think you've lost everything. 1494 01:18:38,900 --> 01:18:40,880 NARRATOR: The day the test made headlines, 1495 01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:44,440 Oppenheimer received a call from an agitated Edward Teller. 1496 01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:48,200 "What should I do now?" Teller wanted to know. 1497 01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:51,900 "Keep your shirt on," Oppenheimer told him. 1498 01:18:53,340 --> 01:18:56,420 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: From Teller's point of view, there was a balance of forces 1499 01:18:56,420 --> 01:18:58,440 between us and the Soviet Union in Europe. 1500 01:18:59,480 --> 01:19:01,960 They had four million men on the ground in Eastern Europe, 1501 01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:02,940 and we had the bomb. 1502 01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:06,860 Now, suddenly, they had four million men on the ground in Europe, 1503 01:19:06,860 --> 01:19:08,420 we had the bomb, and they had the bomb, 1504 01:19:08,780 --> 01:19:10,960 so the balance of forces was upset. 1505 01:19:11,860 --> 01:19:13,680 MARVIN L. GOLDBERGER, Physicist: He hated the Soviet Union. 1506 01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:15,240 He grew up in Hungary, 1507 01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:18,220 and Communism was a four-letter word, 1508 01:19:18,900 --> 01:19:22,920 so he thought the only way you could deal with the Soviet Union was 1509 01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:24,920 to have more bombs than they did, 1510 01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:28,560 that they would be influenced by force 1511 01:19:28,780 --> 01:19:30,220 and by nothing else. 1512 01:19:30,780 --> 01:19:33,820 NARRATOR: Teller believed he had the answer to the Soviet threat: 1513 01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:36,740 the Super, the hydrogen bomb, 1514 01:19:36,740 --> 01:19:40,100 which had remained his pet project ever since Los Alamos. 1515 01:19:41,020 --> 01:19:44,560 It was up to Oppenheimer and his General Advisory Committee 1516 01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:47,140 to recommend to the Atomic Energy Commission 1517 01:19:47,140 --> 01:19:49,020 whether or not to try and create 1518 01:19:49,020 --> 01:19:52,800 the most awesome weapon of mass destruction ever devised. 1519 01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:54,980 OPPENHEIMER: A good many people came to me 1520 01:19:54,980 --> 01:19:58,180 or called me or wrote me letters about the Super program. 1521 01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,560 It was not clear to me what the right thing to do was. 1522 01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:05,460 Was it crash development, the most rapid possible 1523 01:20:05,460 --> 01:20:07,600 development and construction of the Super? 1524 01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:11,720 NARRATOR: The debate over the H-bomb sparked a controversy 1525 01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:14,720 fraught with danger for the unsuspecting scientist. 1526 01:20:15,420 --> 01:20:17,200 Ever since he war had ended, 1527 01:20:17,480 --> 01:20:19,340 Teller had been trying to convince 1528 01:20:19,340 --> 01:20:21,220 any high official who would listen 1529 01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:24,300 that the Super would keep Americans safe. 1530 01:20:24,580 --> 01:20:26,440 MARVIN L. GOLDBERGER, Physicist: He thought that if we didn't develop it, 1531 01:20:26,440 --> 01:20:27,800 the Russians surely would, 1532 01:20:27,940 --> 01:20:29,940 and we would be at their mercy. 1533 01:20:30,460 --> 01:20:34,320 PRISCILLA J. McMILLAN, Writer: He thought that it would be crazy not to develop it 1534 01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:37,880 and then those who opposed it might possibly be unpatriotic. 1535 01:20:38,900 --> 01:20:42,240 NARRATOR: But Oppenheimer and the General Advisory Committee worried more 1536 01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:44,800 about the destructive power of the H-bomb 1537 01:20:45,140 --> 01:20:46,680 than they did about the Russians. 1538 01:20:47,180 --> 01:20:49,940 They voted eight to zero against it. 1539 01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:52,000 There was a surprising unanimity, 1540 01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:53,900 to me, very surprising, 1541 01:20:54,180 --> 01:20:57,120 that the United States ought not to take the initiative 1542 01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:58,840 in an all-out program 1543 01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:01,450 for the development of thermonuclear weapons. 1544 01:21:02,020 --> 01:21:03,920 MARTIN SHERWIN, Historian: The committee concluded 1545 01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:05,660 that it shouldn't be built, 1546 01:21:05,660 --> 01:21:08,100 because this was a weapon of genocide 1547 01:21:08,100 --> 01:21:12,160 that had absolutely no military necessity, 1548 01:21:12,500 --> 01:21:15,180 and that our stockpile of atomic bombs 1549 01:21:15,180 --> 01:21:16,980 was a sufficient deterrent. 1550 01:21:17,660 --> 01:21:19,580 NARRATOR: The debate seemed to be over. 1551 01:21:20,060 --> 01:21:22,360 Oppenheimer, along with some of the country's 1552 01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:24,580 most experienced nuclear scientists, 1553 01:21:24,580 --> 01:21:26,180 had rendered their opinion, 1554 01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:27,880 but President Truman, 1555 01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:30,920 fearing the Russians would develop an H-bomb first, 1556 01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:32,120 dismissed it. 1557 01:21:33,660 --> 01:21:36,600 (explosion) 1558 01:21:37,710 --> 01:21:39,720 On November 1, 1952, 1559 01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:42,840 the world's first hydrogen bomb explosion 1560 01:21:42,940 --> 01:21:46,640 vaporized the tiny island of Elugelab in the Pacific. 1561 01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:53,440 HAROLD AGNEW, Physicist: It became a great big lagoon. 1562 01:21:53,440 --> 01:21:54,520 It just went away. 1563 01:21:55,380 --> 01:21:58,370 And the whole water around it was milky white. 1564 01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:03,410 It was scary. 1565 01:22:06,020 --> 01:22:09,220 The heat from this thing was really very frightening. 1566 01:22:09,380 --> 01:22:12,600 It started getting hotter and hotter and hotter and hotter. 1567 01:22:13,540 --> 01:22:16,000 This is almost 30 miles away. 1568 01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:25,940 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: These were no longer weapons that were military devices. 1569 01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:28,900 They were simply weapons of mass destruction 1570 01:22:28,900 --> 01:22:30,480 on the most terrible scale. 1571 01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:33,580 Well, let's take New York. 1572 01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:37,240 The blast would destroy the entire greater New York area. 1573 01:22:37,460 --> 01:22:39,720 The fallout would take out the rest of the East Coast. 1574 01:22:40,100 --> 01:22:40,880 One bomb. 1575 01:22:44,620 --> 01:22:48,700 PRISCILLA J. McMILLAN, Writer: It meant that a new era of warfare was upon us. 1576 01:22:50,580 --> 01:22:53,080 We now had in our possession 1577 01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:57,040 a weapon of genocide, not just warfare. 1578 01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:01,460 The modern arms race started 1579 01:23:01,460 --> 01:23:04,320 with the invention of the hydrogen bomb, 1580 01:23:04,900 --> 01:23:08,340 and after which, it was escalation all the way. 1581 01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:13,580 OPPENHEIMER: If the development by the enemy, 1582 01:23:13,580 --> 01:23:16,480 as well as by us, of thermonuclear weapons 1583 01:23:16,480 --> 01:23:17,480 could have been averted, 1584 01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:20,960 I think we would be in a somewhat safer world today 1585 01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:21,780 than we are. 1586 01:23:22,220 --> 01:23:24,240 God knows, not entirely safe, 1587 01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:26,940 because atomic bombs are not jolly, either. 1588 01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:30,200 NARRATOR: Once the decision was made, 1589 01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:32,440 Oppenheimer did nothing to oppose it. 1590 01:23:33,300 --> 01:23:34,140 Frustrated, 1591 01:23:34,300 --> 01:23:36,580 he considered leaving the government altogether, 1592 01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:39,780 but instead, played the loyal soldier. 1593 01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:44,200 Later, Oppenheimer's lack of enthusiasm 1594 01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:47,160 would be interpreted as outright opposition. 1595 01:23:47,540 --> 01:23:50,000 Did you, subsequent to the president's decision 1596 01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:51,660 of January 1950, 1597 01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:53,680 ever express any opposition 1598 01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:55,660 to the production of the hydrogen bomb 1599 01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:57,520 on moral grounds? 1600 01:23:59,780 --> 01:24:01,840 I would think I could very well have said, 1601 01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:03,500 "This is a dreadful weapon," 1602 01:24:04,820 --> 01:24:06,360 or something like that. 1603 01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:09,520 Why do you think that you could very well have said that? 1604 01:24:10,420 --> 01:24:13,000 Because I have always thought it was a dreadful weapon. 1605 01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:15,380 Even if from a technical point of view, 1606 01:24:15,380 --> 01:24:18,040 it was a sweet and lovely and beautiful job, 1607 01:24:18,380 --> 01:24:20,780 I have still thought it was a dreadful weapon. 1608 01:24:20,860 --> 01:24:21,920 And have said so? 1609 01:24:22,220 --> 01:24:24,140 I would assume I have said so, yes. 1610 01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:26,340 You mean, 1611 01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:29,440 you had a moral revulsion 1612 01:24:29,440 --> 01:24:30,740 against the production 1613 01:24:30,740 --> 01:24:32,220 of such a dreadful weapon? 1614 01:24:32,220 --> 01:24:33,560 This is too strong. 1615 01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:34,480 Beg pardon? 1616 01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:35,770 That is too strong. 1617 01:24:36,060 --> 01:24:39,700 Which is too strong, the weapon or my expression? 1618 01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:41,400 Your expression. 1619 01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:44,660 I had grave concern and anxiety. 1620 01:24:45,580 --> 01:24:47,420 You had moral qualms about it. 1621 01:24:47,420 --> 01:24:48,540 Is that accurate? 1622 01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:51,240 Let us leave the word "moral" out of it. 1623 01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:53,860 You had qualms about it. 1624 01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:56,840 How could one not have qualms about it? 1625 01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:59,020 I know no one who doesn't have qualms about it. 1626 01:25:00,180 --> 01:25:03,260 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: Oppenheimer wasn't opposed to building nuclear weapons. 1627 01:25:03,260 --> 01:25:04,880 He was just opposed to building 1628 01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:06,080 huge nuclear weapons 1629 01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:08,320 that wouldn't... that were bigger than the targets. 1630 01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:10,560 (rapid gunfire) 1631 01:25:12,780 --> 01:25:14,000 NARRATOR: In 1950, 1632 01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,740 the United States went to war in Korea. 1633 01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:20,920 Soon, Americans were fighting 1634 01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:23,320 both Korean and Chinese communists, 1635 01:25:24,140 --> 01:25:25,960 while the Russians seemed to be growing 1636 01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:27,600 increasingly belligerent. 1637 01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:30,280 Oppenheimer knew 1638 01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:33,500 that America's military planned a devastating response 1639 01:25:33,500 --> 01:25:34,920 to any Soviet attack. 1640 01:25:37,540 --> 01:25:38,820 In 1951, 1641 01:25:39,260 --> 01:25:42,900 he was shown the Air Force's top-secret strategic war plan. 1642 01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:45,980 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: The plan was that we would 1643 01:25:45,980 --> 01:25:49,160 bomb our way across Eastern Europe with nuclear weapons. 1644 01:25:49,480 --> 01:25:51,500 We would then destroy the Soviet Union, 1645 01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:53,620 and then as a kind of an extra, 1646 01:25:53,620 --> 01:25:56,860 we'd go on and destroy China, because, after all, it was a Communist country. 1647 01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:02,220 MARTIN SHERWIN, Historian: The American government was planning, 1648 01:26:02,480 --> 01:26:06,540 in its nuclear weapons response to any Soviet attack, 1649 01:26:06,820 --> 01:26:10,020 to kill 200 and something million people 1650 01:26:10,020 --> 01:26:11,220 within a week or two. 1651 01:26:12,740 --> 01:26:16,160 I mean, Oppenheimer just felt that this was madness, 1652 01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:17,860 sheer madness. 1653 01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:20,840 NARRATOR: Oppenheimer spoke out for moderation. 1654 01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:24,840 He took a stand against building nuclear-powered aircraft 1655 01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:26,080 and submarines, 1656 01:26:26,260 --> 01:26:29,760 and advocated open discussion of the growing arms race. 1657 01:26:30,780 --> 01:26:32,380 It is a grave danger for us 1658 01:26:33,020 --> 01:26:35,140 that these decisions are taken 1659 01:26:35,140 --> 01:26:37,700 on the basis of facts held secret. 1660 01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:41,080 If we are guided by fear alone, 1661 01:26:41,460 --> 01:26:43,800 we'll fail in this time of crisis. 1662 01:26:44,180 --> 01:26:46,520 NARRATOR: But powerful Washington insiders 1663 01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:48,380 believed he was standing in the way 1664 01:26:48,380 --> 01:26:50,880 of America's ability to defend itself. 1665 01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:54,260 They were led by Lewis Strauss. 1666 01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:59,360 With the election of Dwight Eisenhower to the presidency, 1667 01:26:59,620 --> 01:27:02,880 Strauss became the chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission. 1668 01:27:03,480 --> 01:27:05,860 He now had the power to build a case 1669 01:27:05,860 --> 01:27:08,960 to rid the government of the influential scientist. 1670 01:27:09,740 --> 01:27:13,480 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: Strauss would deliberately destroy the name and reputation 1671 01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:16,140 and government position of Robert Oppenheimer. 1672 01:27:16,220 --> 01:27:19,080 And when he destroyed something, he destroyed it thoroughly. 1673 01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:23,020 NARRATOR: Strauss began by orchestrating a campaign 1674 01:27:23,020 --> 01:27:25,860 in America's most popular news magazines, 1675 01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:28,640 alleging that Oppenheimer was undermining 1676 01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:30,840 the nation's atomic weapons program. 1677 01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:35,440 The stories depicted Edward Teller 1678 01:27:35,700 --> 01:27:37,480 as a scientific patriot. 1679 01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:42,440 Teller readily joined the crusade against his old boss. 1680 01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:46,420 He had long wanted to remove Oppenheimer from public life. 1681 01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:50,960 In 1951, he told the FBI that 1682 01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:55,640 "a lot of people believe Oppenheimer opposed the development of the hydrogen bomb, 1683 01:27:55,940 --> 01:27:58,380 on direct orders from Moscow." 1684 01:27:59,100 --> 01:28:00,640 MARVIN L. GOLDBERGER, Physicist: Teller sincerely believed 1685 01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:03,920 that we were in a dangerous arms race with the Russians 1686 01:28:04,060 --> 01:28:06,820 and that Oppenheimer was standing in the way 1687 01:28:07,460 --> 01:28:11,000 of protecting the country against this dreaded foe. 1688 01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:16,740 I think he may well have sincerely believed that. 1689 01:28:17,140 --> 01:28:18,560 And I'm sure for Teller, 1690 01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:21,280 it was also a very personal jealousy. 1691 01:28:21,480 --> 01:28:24,140 Oppenheimer likes his bomb, but he doesn't like my bomb. 1692 01:28:24,140 --> 01:28:25,720 I know that sounds absurd, 1693 01:28:25,900 --> 01:28:29,160 and yet, I have no doubt that it was part of the equation. 1694 01:28:29,380 --> 01:28:31,400 So, get rid of him, and then Teller, 1695 01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:33,820 like cream, would rise to the top of the bottle. 1696 01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:36,060 They needed to get Oppenheimer out of the way 1697 01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:39,540 so that Strauss and Teller could realign the physics community 1698 01:28:39,540 --> 01:28:41,940 around the dream of building new and better bombs. 1699 01:28:42,340 --> 01:28:45,560 (explosion) 1700 01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:48,180 NARRATOR: Late in August 1953, 1701 01:28:48,480 --> 01:28:52,080 the Russians exploded what the press called a hydrogen bomb. 1702 01:28:52,940 --> 01:28:55,580 The news seemed to confirm what Americans feared. 1703 01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:58,680 Their nuclear secrets were being stolen. 1704 01:28:59,480 --> 01:29:00,720 Two years before, 1705 01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:04,260 reports that Soviet agents had penetrated Los Alamos 1706 01:29:04,480 --> 01:29:06,920 and passed atomic secrets to the Russians 1707 01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:09,860 under Oppenheimer's watch had stunned them. 1708 01:29:10,740 --> 01:29:12,880 Convinced that America was vulnerable, 1709 01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:15,860 many began searching for someone to blame. 1710 01:29:16,540 --> 01:29:18,560 One Communist on the faculty 1711 01:29:18,860 --> 01:29:22,050 of one university is one Communist too many. 1712 01:29:22,480 --> 01:29:25,500 NARRATOR: The reputations and careers of loyal citizens 1713 01:29:25,500 --> 01:29:28,240 in universities, businesses and government 1714 01:29:28,480 --> 01:29:29,940 were already being ruined. 1715 01:29:29,940 --> 01:29:32,820 Are you a member of the Communist conspiracy as of this moment? 1716 01:29:33,440 --> 01:29:36,160 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: People were really convinced that tomorrow, 1717 01:29:36,380 --> 01:29:38,420 Soviets were going to take over America, 1718 01:29:38,580 --> 01:29:41,820 and they were convinced that it would be because of internal subversion, 1719 01:29:42,220 --> 01:29:44,380 not because of external activity, 1720 01:29:44,380 --> 01:29:46,300 but because we had spies, 1721 01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:48,540 and they were destroying the American way. 1722 01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:50,980 NARRATOR: The former executive director 1723 01:29:50,980 --> 01:29:53,660 of the congressional Joint Committee on Atomic Energy 1724 01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,620 was convinced that Oppenheimer was one of them. 1725 01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:02,380 William Borden had harbored doubts about Oppenheimer for years 1726 01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:05,160 and shared his suspicions with Strauss. 1727 01:30:05,980 --> 01:30:09,920 MARTIN SHERWIN, Historian: Borden is a natural ally of Lewis Strauss. 1728 01:30:10,500 --> 01:30:13,400 And Strauss allows Borden 1729 01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:16,880 to take Oppenheimer's security file home, 1730 01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:20,800 and Borden studies it for months, 1731 01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:24,300 and writes this letter to J. Edgar Hoover. 1732 01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:28,240 NARRATOR: Borden outlined a series of charges 1733 01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:29,500 against Oppenheimer. 1734 01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:36,730 He concluded with an accusation that went off like a bombshell. 1735 01:30:37,700 --> 01:30:40,280 "More probably than not," Borden wrote, 1736 01:30:40,580 --> 01:30:45,220 "J. Robert Oppenheimer is an agent of the Soviet Union." 1737 01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:49,360 Hoover forwarded the letter to the White House. 1738 01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:52,660 The President called in Lewis Strauss 1739 01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:54,540 to help him decide what to do. 1740 01:30:55,440 --> 01:30:58,020 MARTIN SHERWIN, Historian: Strauss convinces Eisenhower that 1741 01:30:58,020 --> 01:31:01,060 if this letter was sat on by the administration, 1742 01:31:01,060 --> 01:31:03,640 it would cost Eisenhower politically, 1743 01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:05,200 and Eisenhower declares 1744 01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:08,880 that a wall should be put between Oppenheimer and secrecy. 1745 01:31:12,460 --> 01:31:17,400 NARRATOR: On December 21, 1953, Strauss told Oppenheimer 1746 01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:20,280 that his security clearance had been suspended. 1747 01:31:23,440 --> 01:31:26,980 The country's most famous authority on atomic weapons, 1748 01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:29,960 "the father of the A-bomb," was stunned. 1749 01:31:31,260 --> 01:31:34,200 He fell into a "despairing state of mind," 1750 01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:35,550 a friend remembered. 1751 01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:39,800 The following evening, after meeting with his lawyers 1752 01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:41,260 and more than one drink, 1753 01:31:41,780 --> 01:31:43,900 he fainted on the bathroom floor. 1754 01:31:48,980 --> 01:31:51,420 MARTIN SHERWIN, Historian: When he began to think about 1755 01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:55,540 the consequences of what he was facing, 1756 01:31:56,740 --> 01:31:59,220 I think, he realized that he was in 1757 01:31:59,220 --> 01:32:02,620 deep, deep trouble for the first time in his life. 1758 01:32:07,900 --> 01:32:11,600 PRISCILLA J. McMILLAN, Writer: Oppenheimer realized that he was going to pay. 1759 01:32:14,020 --> 01:32:16,400 I think he had the tragic sense. 1760 01:32:16,580 --> 01:32:22,040 He understood the drama that he had to play out, 1761 01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:24,160 even though he later called it a farce. 1762 01:32:38,220 --> 01:32:39,980 NARRATOR: The hearings were enveloped 1763 01:32:39,980 --> 01:32:42,880 in an atmosphere of fierce anti-Communism. 1764 01:32:43,140 --> 01:32:45,540 GORDON GRAY, US Special Counsel: It was reported that in 1940, 1765 01:32:45,540 --> 01:32:49,080 you were listed as a sponsor of the Friends of the Chinese People, 1766 01:32:49,580 --> 01:32:53,640 an organization characterized by the House Committee on Un-American Activities 1767 01:32:53,940 --> 01:32:56,260 as a Communist-front organization. 1768 01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:59,000 NARRATOR: At stake was a man's dignity 1769 01:32:59,500 --> 01:33:02,020 and the role that nuclear weapons would play 1770 01:33:02,020 --> 01:33:04,020 in America's military strategy. 1771 01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:07,180 GORDON GRAY, US Special Counsel: It was reported that you strongly opposed 1772 01:33:07,180 --> 01:33:09,640 the hydrogen bomb on moral grounds, 1773 01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:12,160 and by claiming that it was not feasible 1774 01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:14,040 and not politically desirable. 1775 01:33:14,140 --> 01:33:16,480 And even after it was determined to proceed, 1776 01:33:16,480 --> 01:33:18,720 you continued to oppose the project. 1777 01:33:19,140 --> 01:33:22,180 NARRATOR: Confronted with charges that could ruin his reputation, 1778 01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:25,220 Oppenheimer himself insisted on the hearing 1779 01:33:25,580 --> 01:33:27,940 despite the warnings of some of his friends. 1780 01:33:28,420 --> 01:33:31,660 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: Oppenheimer couldn't see tucking tail and walking away. 1781 01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:34,420 What would that say about the charges against him? 1782 01:33:35,180 --> 01:33:38,240 On the other hand, it's too bad he didn't understand 1783 01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:40,120 what sort of forces he was up against. 1784 01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:42,600 NARRATOR: With no credible evidence 1785 01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:46,240 to prove that Oppenheimer had put America's security at risk, 1786 01:33:46,580 --> 01:33:50,600 Prosecutor Roger Robb would have to wear the scientist down, 1787 01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:55,060 force him into contradictions, confuse and embarrass him. 1788 01:33:55,800 --> 01:34:00,620 Your brother Frank told you in 1936, probably in 1937, 1789 01:34:00,620 --> 01:34:03,880 that he and his wife Jackie had joined the Communist Party. 1790 01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:06,420 Did he ask your advice about it? 1791 01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:07,680 Oh, Lord, no. 1792 01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:09,420 He had taken the step. 1793 01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:13,660 I had confidence in his decency and straightforwardness 1794 01:34:13,660 --> 01:34:15,320 and in his loyalty to me. 1795 01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:18,400 Tell us the test that you applied to acquire 1796 01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:20,350 the confidence that you have spoken of. 1797 01:34:20,820 --> 01:34:23,960 In the case of a brother, one doesn't make tests; 1798 01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:25,120 at least I didn't. 1799 01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:26,000 Well... 1800 01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:27,160 I knew my brother. 1801 01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:31,960 When did you decide that your brother was no longer 1802 01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:35,660 a member of the party and no longer dangerous? 1803 01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:40,060 I never regarded my brother as dangerous. 1804 01:34:43,460 --> 01:34:45,960 NARRATOR: Robb was an experienced trial lawyer, 1805 01:34:46,340 --> 01:34:49,500 but Lewis Strauss wasn't taking any chances. 1806 01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:55,180 The hearings turned into a trial in which Strauss made the rules. 1807 01:34:55,660 --> 01:34:57,460 Strauss selected the judges, 1808 01:34:57,580 --> 01:35:00,820 kept the defense from seeing all the relevant documents 1809 01:35:01,100 --> 01:35:04,340 and from knowing in advance which witnesses would be called. 1810 01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:07,740 MARTIN SHERWIN, Historian: They are in a war against Communism 1811 01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:12,260 and, therefore, the normal rules of justice 1812 01:35:12,260 --> 01:35:13,940 have to be set aside 1813 01:35:13,940 --> 01:35:16,780 in order to protect the body politic. 1814 01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:20,560 NARRATOR: Strauss even broke the law to get his man. 1815 01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:25,040 The FBI bugged Oppenheimer's lawyer's offices, 1816 01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:26,040 his home, 1817 01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:27,600 nearly everywhere he went, 1818 01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:30,520 then passed the information along to the prosecutor. 1819 01:35:31,120 --> 01:35:35,020 The defense strategy was known to the prosecution in advance. 1820 01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:38,180 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: It was the worst kind of kangaroo court. 1821 01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:41,440 They had them ten ways to Sunday. 1822 01:35:42,500 --> 01:35:46,640 OPPENHEIMER (on record): There were approaches to other people who were troubled by them 1823 01:35:46,860 --> 01:35:49,520 and sometimes they came and discussed them with me. 1824 01:35:50,520 --> 01:35:52,860 And that's as far as I can go on that. 1825 01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:55,380 NARRATOR: Unknown to Oppenheimer or his lawyer, 1826 01:35:55,500 --> 01:35:57,920 Robb had discovered the secret recording 1827 01:35:57,920 --> 01:35:59,760 of Oppenheimer's conversation 1828 01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:02,850 with Army Intelligence Officer Colonel Pash. 1829 01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:05,580 He carefully studied the transcript 1830 01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:09,320 and prepared a trap to catch Oppenheimer in a lie. 1831 01:36:09,900 --> 01:36:14,080 ROGER ROBB, Courtroom Prosecutor: Did Chevalier tell you or indicate to you in any way 1832 01:36:14,740 --> 01:36:18,400 that he had talked to anyone but you about this matter? 1833 01:36:18,820 --> 01:36:19,680 No. 1834 01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:21,100 You are sure about that? 1835 01:36:21,500 --> 01:36:22,340 Yes. 1836 01:36:23,900 --> 01:36:25,520 Did you learn 1837 01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:27,860 from anybody else or hear 1838 01:36:27,860 --> 01:36:30,460 that Chevalier had approached anyone but you 1839 01:36:30,460 --> 01:36:31,620 about this matter? 1840 01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:33,100 No. 1841 01:36:33,140 --> 01:36:34,340 You are sure about that? 1842 01:36:34,340 --> 01:36:35,240 That is right. 1843 01:36:36,580 --> 01:36:39,680 Doctor, I would like to read from the transcript 1844 01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:41,760 of your interview with Colonel Pash. 1845 01:36:43,500 --> 01:36:45,380 "There were approaches to other people 1846 01:36:45,380 --> 01:36:46,920 "who were troubled by them, 1847 01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:49,620 "and sometimes came and discussed them with me. 1848 01:36:49,940 --> 01:36:53,320 That's as far as I can go on that." 1849 01:36:53,940 --> 01:36:55,680 Do you recall saying something like that? 1850 01:36:55,740 --> 01:36:58,180 I don't recall that conversation very well. 1851 01:36:58,440 --> 01:37:01,380 I can only rely on the transcript. 1852 01:37:01,740 --> 01:37:03,500 Doctor, for your information, 1853 01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:07,080 I might say that we have a record of your voice. 1854 01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:10,690 Sure. 1855 01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:13,880 Do you have any doubt that you said that? 1856 01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:15,460 No. 1857 01:37:17,580 --> 01:37:19,140 So as to be clear, 1858 01:37:20,520 --> 01:37:23,800 did you discuss with or disclose to Pash 1859 01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:25,240 the identity of Chevalier? 1860 01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:26,460 No. 1861 01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:31,180 Let us refer to him then, for the time being, as "X." 1862 01:37:31,480 --> 01:37:32,180 All right. 1863 01:37:32,740 --> 01:37:36,080 Didn't you say that X had approached three people? 1864 01:37:38,340 --> 01:37:39,260 Probably. 1865 01:37:40,060 --> 01:37:41,900 Why did you do that, Doctor? 1866 01:37:44,860 --> 01:37:46,280 Because I was an idiot. 1867 01:37:46,900 --> 01:37:49,080 Is that your only explanation, Doctor? 1868 01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:51,080 I was reluctant to mention Chevalier. 1869 01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:51,860 Yes? 1870 01:37:52,600 --> 01:37:55,060 No doubt somewhat reluctant to mention myself. 1871 01:37:55,700 --> 01:37:57,140 So you told Pash 1872 01:37:57,140 --> 01:38:00,180 that there were several people that were contacted. 1873 01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:01,440 Right. 1874 01:38:01,820 --> 01:38:03,780 And your testimony now 1875 01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:06,520 is that was a lie? 1876 01:38:08,020 --> 01:38:08,660 Right. 1877 01:38:08,660 --> 01:38:09,700 That wasn't true? 1878 01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:10,800 That is right. 1879 01:38:11,740 --> 01:38:13,440 You did, you are sure, 1880 01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:15,320 tell Colonel Pash 1881 01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:17,500 there was more than one person involved. 1882 01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:25,440 This whole thing is a pure fabrication 1883 01:38:25,440 --> 01:38:27,160 except for the one name Eltenton. 1884 01:38:28,060 --> 01:38:30,580 Why did you go to such great 1885 01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:33,520 circumstantial detail about this thing 1886 01:38:34,980 --> 01:38:36,020 if you knew 1887 01:38:36,020 --> 01:38:37,800 it was a cock-and-bull story? 1888 01:38:44,180 --> 01:38:46,850 I fear this whole thing is a piece of idiocy. 1889 01:38:50,340 --> 01:38:53,460 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: Oppenheimer was up against a kind of psychological torture. 1890 01:38:54,100 --> 01:38:57,780 He was broken down by a very, very skillful prosecutor, 1891 01:38:58,240 --> 01:38:59,700 made to look stupid... 1892 01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:03,100 made to look like a fool. 1893 01:39:05,540 --> 01:39:08,380 PRISCILLA J. McMILLAN, Writer: The purpose in proving him a liar 1894 01:39:08,380 --> 01:39:10,500 was to impress the hearing board 1895 01:39:10,980 --> 01:39:12,580 that he couldn't be trusted 1896 01:39:12,580 --> 01:39:15,660 and that they should declare him a security risk. 1897 01:39:17,340 --> 01:39:19,400 It had to be totally humiliating 1898 01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:22,020 and destroy his confidence in himself. 1899 01:39:23,020 --> 01:39:24,440 He's being told 1900 01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:29,640 that he's a liar, untrustworthy, unworthy, 1901 01:39:30,700 --> 01:39:31,980 and he folded. 1902 01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:34,860 OPPENHEIMER: The story I told Pash is not a true story. 1903 01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:38,680 There were not three or more people involved. 1904 01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:43,240 I believe I can do no more 1905 01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:45,840 than say that the story I told is a false story. 1906 01:39:48,780 --> 01:39:50,660 It is not easy to say that. 1907 01:39:52,540 --> 01:39:55,740 Now, when you ask as to why I did this, 1908 01:39:55,740 --> 01:39:57,920 other than that I was an idiot, 1909 01:39:59,180 --> 01:40:01,480 I am going to have more trouble being understandable. 1910 01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:07,400 I found myself, I believe, trying to give a tip 1911 01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:09,860 to the intelligence people without realizing 1912 01:40:10,020 --> 01:40:14,860 that when you give a tip, you must tell the whole story. 1913 01:40:16,620 --> 01:40:20,220 But I am, in any case, solemnly testifying 1914 01:40:21,900 --> 01:40:25,440 that there was no conspiracy in what I knew 1915 01:40:25,940 --> 01:40:27,680 and what I know of this matter. 1916 01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:35,980 I wish I could explain to you better why I falsified and fabricated. 1917 01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:44,340 PRISCILLA J. McMILLAN, Writer: The trial proved to him his worst fears. 1918 01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:52,360 Oppenheimer had been troubled all his life about who he was. 1919 01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:57,280 He later said that he was repulsive to himself. 1920 01:40:59,660 --> 01:41:04,060 The trial said that he had defects of character, 1921 01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:06,700 that he was not a good human being, 1922 01:41:07,420 --> 01:41:08,980 and unfortunately he agreed. 1923 01:41:12,380 --> 01:41:15,860 NARRATOR: Oppenheimer testified for 27 hours. 1924 01:41:17,100 --> 01:41:20,200 A parade of witnesses was called on both sides. 1925 01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:24,320 He looked wan, demoralized 1926 01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:26,860 by the time Edward Teller took the stand. 1927 01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:31,660 Teller drove the final nail into Oppenheimer's coffin. 1928 01:41:33,220 --> 01:41:37,280 EDWARD TELLER (dramatized): I thoroughly disagreed with Dr. Oppenheimer 1929 01:41:37,640 --> 01:41:42,380 in numerous issues, and his actions, frankly, 1930 01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:47,300 appeared to me confused and complicated. 1931 01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:50,940 I feel that I would like to 1932 01:41:50,940 --> 01:41:54,300 see the vital interests of this country 1933 01:41:54,380 --> 01:41:57,700 in hands which I understand better 1934 01:41:58,180 --> 01:42:00,780 and therefore trust more. 1935 01:42:02,540 --> 01:42:05,520 I would feel personally more secure 1936 01:42:05,900 --> 01:42:09,900 if public matters would rest in other hands. 1937 01:42:22,160 --> 01:42:23,200 I'm sorry. 1938 01:42:26,020 --> 01:42:27,800 After what you've just said... 1939 01:42:31,220 --> 01:42:32,720 I don't know what you mean. 1940 01:42:40,980 --> 01:42:43,420 NARRATOR: The hearing lasted nearly four weeks. 1941 01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:47,760 In his closing remarks, Oppenheimer's lawyer warned, 1942 01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:51,540 "America must not devour her own children." 1943 01:42:56,820 --> 01:43:00,160 GORDON GRAY, US Special Counsel: We find that Dr. Oppenheimer's continuing conduct 1944 01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:04,580 and associations have reflected a serious disregard 1945 01:43:04,580 --> 01:43:07,240 for the requirements of the security system. 1946 01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:11,320 We have found a susceptibility to influence, 1947 01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:13,440 which could have serious implications 1948 01:43:13,440 --> 01:43:15,640 for the security interests of the country. 1949 01:43:16,740 --> 01:43:19,960 We find his conduct in the hydrogen bomb program 1950 01:43:20,540 --> 01:43:22,200 sufficiently disturbing. 1951 01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:26,280 We have regretfully concluded 1952 01:43:26,740 --> 01:43:29,660 that Dr. Oppenheimer has been less than candid 1953 01:43:29,660 --> 01:43:32,620 in several instances in his testimony. 1954 01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:35,720 NARRATOR: By a vote of two to one, 1955 01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:41,280 the board concluded that, although Oppenheimer was a loyal citizen, 1956 01:43:41,620 --> 01:43:44,280 his security clearance should be revoked. 1957 01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:49,000 Numb and bewildered, Oppenheimer told a friend, 1958 01:43:49,720 --> 01:43:52,440 "I have so little sense of self remaining." 1959 01:43:56,360 --> 01:44:00,440 In a futile gesture, he appealed to the Atomic Energy Commission, 1960 01:44:00,780 --> 01:44:02,860 chaired by Lewis Strauss. 1961 01:44:04,060 --> 01:44:07,080 The Commission upheld the verdict, four to one. 1962 01:44:13,560 --> 01:44:15,800 JEREMY BERNSTEIN: I took a train ride with him to New York, 1963 01:44:18,020 --> 01:44:20,900 and for some reason, he started talking about "my case." 1964 01:44:21,780 --> 01:44:22,640 "My Case." 1965 01:44:24,420 --> 01:44:25,740 And he said to me 1966 01:44:26,720 --> 01:44:30,120 that at the time, he thought it was happening to somebody else. 1967 01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:36,180 PRISCILLA J. McMILLAN, Writer: He wasn't accused in the course of the hearing 1968 01:44:36,320 --> 01:44:38,420 of having ever betrayed a secret. 1969 01:44:39,620 --> 01:44:41,680 It was about getting Oppenheimer 1970 01:44:41,680 --> 01:44:44,840 out of the security councils of the U.S. government. 1971 01:44:47,360 --> 01:44:51,120 NARRATOR: America's most influential voice for nuclear moderation 1972 01:44:51,440 --> 01:44:52,580 had been stilled. 1973 01:44:53,400 --> 01:44:56,460 MARTIN SHERWIN, Historian: The Oppenheimer hearing was a political battle 1974 01:44:56,680 --> 01:44:59,200 between the Strauss view-- 1975 01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:03,080 "We need more and more and more nuclear weapons"-- 1976 01:45:03,300 --> 01:45:06,580 and the Oppenheimer view that nuclear weapons are 1977 01:45:06,680 --> 01:45:08,440 a part of our defense, 1978 01:45:08,440 --> 01:45:11,280 but we have to, you know, use them sensibly 1979 01:45:11,280 --> 01:45:13,540 and we can't rely on them totally. 1980 01:45:15,020 --> 01:45:18,480 That hearing had a profound effect on the nuclear arms race. 1981 01:45:18,480 --> 01:45:21,240 It essentially opened the floodgates. 1982 01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:26,980 It removed the legitimacy of criticism 1983 01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:30,580 against more and more nuclear weapons. 1984 01:45:31,940 --> 01:45:35,740 NARRATOR: In 1954, the year of the Oppenheimer hearings, 1985 01:45:35,980 --> 01:45:39,680 America had some 300 nuclear weapons. 1986 01:45:41,220 --> 01:45:43,000 By the end of the 20th century, 1987 01:45:43,440 --> 01:45:47,760 the United States would have at the ready more than 70,000. 1988 01:45:52,260 --> 01:45:55,340 We built so many more than we ever needed, 1989 01:45:56,220 --> 01:45:57,980 and the Soviets followed suit. 1990 01:46:17,860 --> 01:46:21,780 NARRATOR: In 1954, Robert Oppenheimer turned 50. 1991 01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:26,760 His security clearance had been revoked. 1992 01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:30,220 His connection to the government had been severed. 1993 01:46:32,620 --> 01:46:37,200 He would live for 13 more years, but he was never the same man. 1994 01:46:39,380 --> 01:46:42,640 ROBERT CHRISTY, Physicist: He had been a strong, forceful leader before that, 1995 01:46:43,200 --> 01:46:45,040 and he was a beaten man afterwards. 1996 01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:51,340 RICHARD RHODES, Writer: He gave lectures on science and its interaction with humanity. 1997 01:46:52,100 --> 01:46:55,180 He continued to direct the Institute for Advanced Study. 1998 01:46:55,780 --> 01:46:59,420 He became what Yeats calls a smiling public man. 1999 01:47:02,320 --> 01:47:04,340 MARVIN L. GOLDBERGER, Physicist: I saw a lot of him at that time, 2000 01:47:04,340 --> 01:47:07,880 and I saw the impact that this tragedy had on him. 2001 01:47:08,540 --> 01:47:10,890 I can't recall ever seeing him happy, 2002 01:47:11,060 --> 01:47:14,080 you know, just relaxed and having fun. 2003 01:47:15,060 --> 01:47:19,180 I don't have the feeling that he ever felt good about himself 2004 01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:23,480 and if he was ever in any sense at peace with himself. 2005 01:47:27,980 --> 01:47:29,580 NARRATOR: In 1963, 2006 01:47:29,580 --> 01:47:33,060 Oppenheimer received what many saw as an official apology. 2007 01:47:34,300 --> 01:47:36,520 President Lyndon Johnson presented him 2008 01:47:36,520 --> 01:47:39,500 with one of the nation's highest scientific honors: 2009 01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:43,180 the Fermi Award from the Atomic Energy Commission. 2010 01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:47,140 With countless other men and women, 2011 01:47:47,520 --> 01:47:51,100 we are engaged in this great enterprise of our time, 2012 01:47:51,560 --> 01:47:55,240 testing whether men can live without war 2013 01:47:55,460 --> 01:47:57,460 as the great arbiter of history. 2014 01:47:58,080 --> 01:48:01,600 I think it's just possible, Mr. President, 2015 01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:05,460 that it has taken some character and some courage 2016 01:48:05,460 --> 01:48:07,700 for you to make this award today. 2017 01:48:09,580 --> 01:48:11,580 NARRATOR: Edward Teller was there that day, 2018 01:48:12,140 --> 01:48:14,250 come to offer his congratulations. 2019 01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:16,980 When he extended his hand, 2020 01:48:17,320 --> 01:48:19,660 once again, Oppenheimer shook it. 2021 01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:22,480 After the ceremony, 2022 01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:26,020 Lewis Strauss wrote an angry letter to Life magazine, 2023 01:48:26,300 --> 01:48:28,420 complaining that honoring Oppenheimer 2024 01:48:28,680 --> 01:48:30,200 "dealt a severe blow 2025 01:48:30,200 --> 01:48:33,260 to the security system which protects our country." 2026 01:48:41,500 --> 01:48:44,360 Robert Oppenheimer died four years later. 2027 01:48:45,080 --> 01:48:46,280 He was 62. 2028 01:48:49,020 --> 01:48:50,640 In those twilight years, 2029 01:48:50,820 --> 01:48:54,820 he seldom returned to the New Mexico where he had come to feel at peace. 2030 01:48:58,060 --> 01:48:59,600 When he was 24, 2031 01:49:00,040 --> 01:49:03,980 he had written a poem inspired by the wilderness he loved so well 2032 01:49:04,860 --> 01:49:07,020 and the allure of death. 2033 01:49:09,460 --> 01:49:11,680 OPPENHEIMER: It was evening when we came to the river 2034 01:49:12,620 --> 01:49:14,780 With a low moon over the desert 2035 01:49:14,780 --> 01:49:17,520 That we had lost in the mountains, forgotten, 2036 01:49:18,000 --> 01:49:20,580 What with the cold and the sweating 2037 01:49:21,060 --> 01:49:23,080 And the ranges barring the sky. 2038 01:49:24,260 --> 01:49:27,000 We waited a long time in silence. 2039 01:49:28,300 --> 01:49:33,120 Then, we heard the oars creaking, and afterwards, 2040 01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:36,360 I remember the boatman called to us. 2041 01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:40,620 We did not look back at the mountains. 2042 01:50:39,330 --> 01:50:42,730 There's more American Experience at pbs.org. 2043 01:50:44,870 --> 01:50:48,000 American Experience: "The Trials of J. 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