All language subtitles for Lost.Boy.Killing.of.James.Bulger.S01E02[1]

I'm Leon Fergus
and I'm James' brother.

What happened to him,
it's horrid, really.

It's still always there for us.

It doesn't really get easy.

But we've got used to it.

I'm Torn Fergus, James's brother.

It's heart-wrenching,
isn't it, really?

I should have had another older
brother with me now.

What happened, it is
sickening, isn't it?

To my own brother.

REPORTER: Police searching for
a missing two-year-old boy

on Merseyside believe
he's been abducted.

If you've got my baby,
just bring him back.

If I'd had turned left,
I'd have got James back.

The idea that it could be done
by juveniles or even children was...

...it was off the scale.

I had 24 years police service at
that time.

I've arrested quite a few kids

but never dealt with a child
who'd committed murder.

REPORTER: Security cameras
caught him on film,

leaving the centre with two boys.

This could be any child, you know,
it could have happened to anybody.

REPORTER: Inch by inch, the police
have searched the railway line

where two-year-old James Bulger's
body was found yesterday.

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Still, I can't really think about
exactly what happened.

I don't really want to know
all the details about it.

We do think about him.

What happened to James,
it's unimaginable.

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The case of trying to extract
some kind of information

about how did James get
all these injuries.

I shouldn't have let go of his hand.
It is hard for me to say but...

...it's the truth.

I shouldn't have let go.

When you have a murder
investigation,

you'll always feel
desire and pressure

to get to the truth
and get to what happened

as soon as possible.

At the arrest point, they were just
two of the suspects that we treat

as we find them, you know,
there's no moments of euphoria,

"Yeah, we've got them, because we've
got everything we need here now."

We certainly didn't.

There was one desire,
and that was to get to the truth.

When you arrest a young child for
something horrendous as it was,

you've got to try and build
a friendship, otherwise

they'd oppose you and would not
speak to you at all.

Robert Thompson's interviews,

he admitted quicker he was
at the Strand.

I think at one stage, really
early on, he says he saw James

with his mother.

That's all he saw.

You report back to Marsh Lane

and they're all
"Did we have the right kids?"

I just said this,
"Listen, don't ask me that."

I said, "I haven't got a due
at the moment.

"If I get the feeling,
I'll tell you."

And then his interviews quite
quickly get to the stage

where he has, Jon, taken
his hand and taken him out.

There was nothing coming from
Venables but he was a different

character altogether.

Well, we knew Venables
had been in the Strand

and it was admitted that Venables
and Thompson were together,

so we knew, even before we started
interviewing them,

that they'd been in the Strand.

The first and second interview,
Venables just told us

about how he was playing
truant, getting up to mischief

in and around Walton, County Road.

Never been near the Strand.

He's taking us round everywhere
they went.

But he's not volunteering anything
in relation to the Strand.

When he gets asked about the Strand,
he just told us he was basically

here, there and everywhere
around Walton,

shoplifting and getting up
to no good.

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My name is Laurie Dalton.

I was a detective constable
for 26 years.

Thompson was calculating.

He cried whenever there was
an awkward situation

and he was immediately given
a Mars bar and a can of Coke,

and he latched onto this because
when I say he cried,

there was not a drop of water.

There wasn't a tear.

The boy was streetwise,
he was trying to con me.

He thought he was going home

because he kept asking,
"When am I going home?"

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That is a warped mind.

Very rare in kids' minds.

It's a chilling thing to say,
with hindsight.

At the time, it simply seemed to be
part of a pattern

of desperate lying,

of desperately just trying to talk
about anything else other than this.

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That's quite a bit cold, very eerie,
the fact that he

actually said it in the way
James would have said it.

Once he started to admit
that he was the one with Venables

to leave the Strand,
that's when your heart is pumping

and you feel like punching the air.

Then admitting that he was one
of the two boys that was with James,

that's when you're feeling
excited by all achievements,

that you've extracted
what you want.

Now you want to go further.

At the end of interview three,
which was the last interview

on the first night he was arrested,
which would be the Thursday,

we tell him that Robert Thompson has
already told us

that he's been in the Strand, and
then he admits being in the Strand.

Jon Venables was frightened
of upsetting his mother.

They put it to me that it
might be worth having a word

with Susan Venables.

Susan just, you know, said to him,
"Look, you know, we'll always

"love you. We'll always support you.
You really need to tell the truth."

And so that was the breakthrough
then that led to the next interview.

You know, he actually said
those words - "I killed him."

In a private room,
his mother sat with Jon.

Basically said, "You need to tell
the truth, we'll support you.

"Don't be worrying." Ancl basically
he said, "I killed James.

"I killed him."

And that was the first and probably
only admission.

It was really difficult to consider
that anybody could carry out

those type of injuries
to another individual.

The idea that it could be someone
as young as ten

was difficult to comprehend.

That was the breakthrough then

that led to the next interview,

which was interview six, I think,
which then probably was as close

as you're going to get to the truth,

where Jon Venables then took
the interviewers through the Friday

when they took James.

This then became a difficult path

because now we've got
two ten-year-olds

who have killed a two-year-old,
and we have to then make sure

that we provide all the evidence
that we can to show what happened.

We got a sense of what sort of
went on on the journey.

They walked him past
Queen's Drive, past Christchurch,

took him on to the reservoir.

We've got no witnesses whatsoever
to the final, violent act.

Our priority was solely to discover
what happened to James.

Venables sought to remove himself

from any of the most
violent actions,

putting them all down
to Robert Thompson, saying,

"I only hit him a few times
because Robbie told me to do it.

"But, you know, I didn't
do it really hard."

We were getting information
coming through from Lower Lane

where Venables was being held

that he was now blaming Thompson.

They both started blaming
each other.

Because he knew there was only
him, Venables and James,

he knew that it would be hard for me
to say who did what, and that's why

it was easier for him to blame
it all on Venables.

These are the boys that took James
from Denise outside the Strand

and then left him

where he died, and, actually,
ultimately killed him.

We had the individuals responsible.

By time, the interviews are over,

Jon has made an admission, Robert
hasn't and said it was allJon,

and Jon has tried to push
and blame in Robert's direction.

And that was the point at which we
left the police interviews

and that remained
the case throughout the time

I was acting for them
through the trial,

that story didn't change.

We had enough evidence.

Once we have enough evidence,
we charge.

We've got a ten-year-old boy
standing on the other side

of the charge desk.

He can't even reach the top
of the desk.

And when he got charged, I thought,

"How could you,
as a ten-year-old boy,

"cause so much misery
to a person's life?"

The name's Ray Simpson.

I was the inspector in Merseyside
Police press office at the time.

It was just solid
with reporters,

camera crews,
all the satellites were outside.

By this time, I mean,
it was worldwide.

Two ten-year-old boys from the
Walton area have been charged

with the abduction
and murder of James Bulger.

DENISE: Well, I was kind of relieved

because I knew that
they couldn't go take another

child because I strongly believe

that they were on course,
when they were,

they would have gone on to do

because they would have got
away with it.

REPORTER: From early this morning,

local people, still furious
at the death of James Bulger,

began to gather outside
South Sefton Magistrates' Court.

50, less than two weeks
since James had been abducted,

there was a degree of
anger on the streets,

which was frightening.
It was frightening.

You want to give them to the people
and let them sort them out!

I've heard reports between
300 and 500.

It's not far off.
And they wanted blood.

They really did.

REPORTER: "Let them go,"
they chanted.

To say that emotions ran high
would be an understatement.

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There were some fairly violent
scenes as people tried to rush

at the police vans
and arrests were made,

it was generally
a very difficult scene.

My name is Diane Halliwell, and,
at the time of the investigation,

I was a press officer
for Merseyside Police.

We went into the court and then
the boys were brought in.

Jon Venables was with his father,

and Robert Thompson
was with a social worker.

And, as we sat at the back,
I think we were shocked

that they were only ten.
But, actually seeing the boys,

they were tiny - you could barely
see them above the desk.

I don't know what I imagined
I was going to see when those two

boys came into court and
what kind of monsters

I conjured up in my mind,

but you couldn't
have expected to see anything

more ordinary
and more unprepossessing

than these two tiny little boys,
looking very lost and bewildered

who were led into the courtroom.

And that was a shocking thing.

You couldn't believe, looking
at little boys like that,

that they'd clone that to James.

It was just so hard to believe.

My name is Sean Sexton.

I'm a solicitor in Liverpool.

I was brought in to help
Denise and the family.

It was the Friday before James'
funeral on the Monday,

and I got a phone call
from a Sunday tabloid newspaper.

Er, and they told me they were
going to run a story on the Sunday

that, erm,

Denise had been shoplifting on the
day of James' abduction,

and she delayed reporting James
missing so she could stash the loot.

I wasn't aware that people
were saying nasty things about me.

I've never shoplifted or anything
like that, and anyone who knows me

knows that.

So all these people, all the people
that are claiming these nasty things

about me, they weren't there.

You look at the CCTV,

Denise is paying at the counter,
erm, or whatever.

She turns round and James is gone.

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It was a really cold morning.

Bitterly cold.

I was travelling in the car
and the crowds are sort of, like,

two or three deep all the way along.

It was a massive funeral.

There were people lining the route.

When I got out the funeral car
I just seen two sides of the road

lined with people, but I just put
me head back down because I just

wanted the day to be over.

When the tiny white coffin came in,
it was just really, really moving.

And at the front of the church,
there was a red armchair

that the dad had made,
Ralph had made, erm, for James,

and that was just really, really
sad. And Father Michael's address

was, you know, sitting there and
you'll be sitting

with Our Lord now, in heaven.

It was just really, really sad.

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Tragic.

Erm, I mean...

...y0U can see

the pictures
of the actual funeral itself

and there's rows and rows of people

just in tears.

It was a beautiful service.

Erm, Denise was very dignified.

She'd been told probably best
to buy a hat

so she could be private
in her grief,

and throughout it all,
she had a wide-brimmed hat on.

She kept her head down.

Alls I kept thinking was,
"I shouldn't be doing this,

"I shouldn't have to do this.

"I should not be putting
my child down there."

I think the Kirkby community,
you know, James was from Kirby,

it was a real sense of loss

because you felt he was like your
own, really.

That's the way I felt.

There were times when you just look
back at it and thought,

what a waste.

And it was.

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We all knew
and the court officials all knew

that this wasn't
an everyday court case

that would get reported in the
local paper.

This was a major international
story of the grimmest sort.

I felt that the boys had to go
to trial

regardless of the ages,
because the family deserved that.

The family deserved the fact
that they could be seen

to be on trial.

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I just wanted them to spend
many years behind bars.

That's someone's child
that they've taken

and they can't get away with it.

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We'd done everything we could do.
We presented the file of evidence

to the best of our ability.

Richard Henriques, Queen's Counsel.

Leading Prosecuting Counsel.

I felt more emotionally involved
than I have done in any other case.

It was a courtroom
I was very familiar with.

And seeing two 11-year-olds
in that dock

was a shock in itself.

It was an extraordinary spectacle,
really, to see all this legal

majesty surround these
two little tiny boys.

The fact that the boys were
intimidated, well, at the end

of the day, they did what they did,
and if they were then scared

by going into court, well...

...tough. You know.

It just didn't...l've got very
little sympathy

with them in terms of,

oh, it was such a terrible time,
I felt so scared in court,

and everything. Well, they brought
it on themselves and...

...hard lines.

Strangely, the critical evidence
of joint enterprise and involvement

in the crime didn't come
from the railway line at all,

but it came from that very long walk
from Bootle to Walton,

two-and-a-half miles
through a residential area.

And decent, responsible people

wanted to help and offered help.

The witnesses that appeared got
very, very upset because I think

they felt such guilt at not
being able to stop it,

and the fact that they hadn't
actually intervened to the point

where they'd taken
James off these two boys.

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I don't blame them witnesses
whatsoever.

Yeah, he could have been saved
by one, maybe more.

But no-one expects two ten-year-olds
to take a child

and do what they done.

Every time that they were actually
questioned as to what they were

doing, or where they were going,
or who James was,

they had stories ready.

The story changed along the way,

but they would give explanations
to the people who were actually

speaking to them as to what they
were doing with James,

where they were going,
why he was crying,

why he'd got a graze
on his head.

And they had so many opportunities
along the way

to perhaps give James
up to the people.

I am convinced

that they had one intention

and that was intention to kill him.

They'd walked James for three miles.

And then taken him
to the railway track.

They're just...

...plain evil.

The forensic evidence was chilling.

The pathologist evidence was

that, I think, 42 separate injuries

to James, a minimum of
30 separate blows,

either with bricks,

stones,

a metal object,

or feet to the body of James.

So it was a prolonged,
shockingly violent attack,

which, frankly,

could have had no other purpose
other than to kill.

That was a really difficult thing
to listen to

and there was real emotion.

I mean, I think a lot of the
forensic experts had given evidence

in dozens, if not hundreds
of trials.

And it's pretty matter-of-fact
for them,

but it's not matter-of-fact if the
victim is two-years-old.

I don't think any of them
tried to hide the fact

this was an unusually
distressing experience

to give evidence.

Thompson's trainers had been removed

without untying the laces.

The police had seized his trainers.

They were able to take an imprint
of the laces as they were tied

with a double bow.

There were some very marked, erm,

D rings, they were called,

through which the laces
had been laced.

The evidence as to why these marks
were made by Robert's footwear

and ultimately the evidence
concluded where the scientist

had taken a life-sized doll

and the footwear, and placed

the footwear in contact
with the doll's head,

where it would make the impression
that was visible.

That was a moment of clarity for me,
yeah. Yeah.

I had had by that time, quite
a long relationship with him

and during which time he had denied
all involvement

and to be presented with a picture

like that didn't break
my relationship.

Erm...

...it just meant that I had to...

...I had to be aware that there was
something else in it now.

Yeah.

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No-one could believe that two
ten-year-olds could do something

like that, be so evil
on another child.

The two of them
are as evil as each other.

So I strongly believe if they would
have got away with James's murder,

they would have gone
on to commit another crime.

They would have gone on
to take another child

and do the same to that child.

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I wanted to hear the sentence
that they were given.

That experience in itself, you know,

sitting so close to the two
that took my son's life,

took my world away from me,
destroyed my life.

So close to me.

I couldn't believe that they
were standing there laughing.

You just want to see the ones who
took your world away from you

go down.

It was an absolutely packed court.

You could have cut the atmosphere
with a knife.

There was always a worry at the back
of their minds that, you know,

maybe the jury
couldn't get beyond their age.

Maybe the jury would try and find
some way to avoid

an actual conviction for murder.

You could see in the jury

the weight of responsibility.

Some of the faces were really,

they were carrying
the weight of the world

on their shoulders.

The foreman of the jury was asked
if they had reached verdicts

on the abduction of James Bulger,
on the murder of James Bulger.

"Have you reached verdicts?"

Yes, they had.

Had there been an acquittal,

the competence of our criminal
justice process would have been

seriously questioned.

At that point, the judge decided
that was, you know,

enough to proceed

and he took the verdict.

Guilty.

They found them guilty.

You could almost feel the breath
that had been held in

which exhaled throughout
that courtroom.

I remember the family at the back.
You know, "Yes",

when the verdict came in.

I remember just feeling
a big sense of relief.

Robert Thompson was gasping for air.

He was in a state of absolute shock,

Jon Venables was crying.

It was a moment of the most
terrible drama.

The verdict coming was a relief

because it gave the Bulger family

the justice that, you know,
I think they deserved.

And I think
it was the right verdict.

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We were very happy
that they were named

because what they did,
they deserved to be named.

They could have been allowed
to fade into obscurity,

but the family didn't want that.

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I remember the judge,
at the end of it, he said,

"You will both serve very,
very many years in prison."

And I was pleased at that outcome.

I found out a few weeks later

that "very, very many years"
meant eight years.

That's not what I thought
was going to happen.

I do remember thinking, "How am
I going to tell Denise this?"

Like, that's not
"very, very many years".

Then I said, "Well, don't worry,
because the Lord ChiefJustice

"is going to have his say now",

and you know, I can't believe

he'll go along
with eight years too.

And the Lord ChiefJustice came back
with ten years...

...and that just, you know, it really
felt like an insult for...

...for the family. So that's when
they decided that they were going to

raise this petition because the
final decision was going to be made

by the Home Secretary.

Michael Howard.
I was Home Secretary.

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I had to consider what I thought
was the appropriate sentence.

Trialjudge said eight years.

The Lord ChiefJustice
had said ten years.

I had in the forefront of my mind

those words of the trialjudge.

This was an act of unparalleled
evil and barbarity.

I tried to work out what an adult
would have had as the sentence.

I thought would have been well
in excess of 20 years.

Obviously, you had to discount from
that because the offenders

were very young and you obviously
had to take that into account,

and I thought 15 years
was the right sentence.

Michael Howard did up the sentence
to 15 years,

although I still wasn't happy,
but I was prepared to accept

because they would have been
spending time in a proper prison,

erm, once they come out
of the Young Offenders.

The petition backfired.
The boys challenged it.

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The petition, people forget,

called for, erm...

...Venables and Thompson
to be imprisoned for life.

So it didn't really take the
petition for me to know

what kind of reaction this
terrible crime had evoked.

It was decided the Lord Chief
Justice would decide the tariff

in those cases,

and he came out with seven years,
eight months.

That wasn't just a kick in the
teeth, it was a stab in the back.

I thought, you know,

James's life
didn't mean anything then.

15 years would have meant
that they did some time in jail,

and if that had happened...

...I think a lot of the pain
that is still there

wouldn't be there now.

If they'd done some time in jail,

if they'd heard
the clang of the prison gates,

then I think there would have been
some feeling

that, well, you know what,
they were punished.

But all they did was spend time
in a secure children's home.

They were in a children's home.

They never spent one day
in a Young Offenders institution,

never mind an adult prison.

I wanted justice for James.

I wanted them two to serve
a long time in an adult prison.

Young Offenders
is not going to learn them

that what they done was wrong.

They can't get away with murder.

That's someone's child
that they've taken.

And they can't get away with it.

I thought, you know, James's life
didn't mean anything then.

You know, they're not even going
to reach an adult prison.

They should have gone
to an adult prison.

My name is Amanda Knowles

and I was the Children's Resource
Centre Manager at Barton Moss.

I would see Robert on the unit

but every month, I would see him

in that formal setting
of a secure unit review.

He would sit curled up in his chair,
sucking his thumb.

It's like he'd regressed,

you know, because he knew that
what he'd done was very serious

and he wouldn't be going back
to his mum any time soon.

My name is David James Smith.

I did a great deal of research,

tracking back into the boys'
backgrounds.

In Robert's case,
he was truanting a lot,

and I think he's been described
as an "urban, feral child",

just left to, you know,
roam around the streets,

in and out of the shops
and the pubs and, you know,

just, generally, out of control.

I don't hold the view
that children are born evil.

Some staff had real difficulties
with that in the beginning,

coming to terms with, you know,
what Robert had done.

But with the help and support
of psychologists,

they were able to provide the care

that enabled Robert to be
successfully rehabilitated

and returned to, you know,
to society.

I did spend a little bit of time
at Red Bank

and came into contact with Jon.

He definitely appeared
to have more complex needs.

As a professional that worked
with children for a long time,

I would have been questioning things
like learning difficulties,

history of abuse,

how this might
be manifesting in his behaviour,

because that was visible
in his appearance.

When I looked
at Robert and Jon,

I saw, in Jon,

a boy that was more troubled
than Robert.

I suppose the word you'd use is,
he looked more disturbed.

He and Robert would both have been
so unbelievably scrutinised,

so their every actions were kind of
recorded, there are all these sort

of tear sheets, daily sheets where,
you know, almost hour by hour,

people are making notes
about what they're up to.

I sat at the dining table with Jon.

We were joking about fighting.

And I said something to the effect
that he couldn't pull the skin

off a rice pudding.

He replied, "Oh, yeah? Bring
your baby here and I'll batter it."

Jon Venables' parents had had
difficulties with depression.

The police had been called
once because Susan Venables

had left her children unattended.

She had issues with alcohol

and she came from a family
in which there was, you know,

known to be domestic violence.

There's loads of kids out there
who come from bad upbringings

and, you know, bad family
backgrounds and stuff like that.

I don't care whether they were
badly brought up.

That didn't give them the right

to go out and take the life
of a child.

My child.

I was just crying uncontrollably,
it's just, I couldn't believe it.

Ithought

yous haven't been punished
for murdering my son,

and yet, there yous are,
about to live new lives now.

I just couldn't believe it.

I didn't think they would
have been released so soon.

I felt like I'd let James down.

I didn't think I fought hard enough.

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The first thought I had is, I've got
a lot of nieces that go into town.

You know, one of them could have
been getting chatted up by them.

Who knows?

He could have took her to his house,
or vice versa.

And it was a scary thought
thatl had.

And when I had the conversation
with me nieces,

they were all taken aback by it,
going,

"Never even thought about that."

So, yeah, it was a big concern
for my family.

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When he was released,
he was in the charge

of a probation officer.

And his life was, you know,
began to descend into chaos.

He was collecting child abuse,
pornography online

and going online, pretending to be
a woman with a child

who they were offering up
for other people to abuse.

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Yeah, definitely did say,
"I told you so"

when he reoffended. I knew all along
it was going to happen.

I didn't know
when it was going to happen,

but I did know it would happen.

It took him a bit of time
but he got there.

As I knew he would.

I'm hoping they are seeing through
him now and I'm hoping that they

are realising that he is a danger,
and he is a danger to society.

For everyone who says, you know,
I should let it go,

why should I let it go?

It was my son that they took.

I'm never going to let this go.

We just had all this done up
for his birthday.

It's just our little way of giving
him something, really, isn't it?

It just makes us feel better
as a family as well,

because he knows he's not forgotten.

He'll never be forgotten by us.

I didn't think for one minute
I'd be standing with a new family

looking over the son that I lost.

In the beginning, I didn't think
I'd meet anyone else.

When I first met Stewie,

he didn't know I was James's mum,

but once the wall come down,

you know, I couldn't have met
a better man.

He's just pulled me through so much.

The day I married Stewie,

Thomas was three months old

and obviously, we had Michael,
and it was such a lovely day,

and, you know, that day
I couldn't stop smiling

because I could see my family
growing again.

I'm Leon Fergus
and I'm James's brother.

I'm Torn Fergus, James's brother.

It still is weird seeing about James
on the news to this day, obviously.

It always will be, so obviously,
I just, like...

He should have been here with us.

We shouldn't be looking at him on
the news about a kid being murdered.

We'd rather him be sat next to us.

When I learnt that them two
were getting released,

that was hard for me,
for them to go to school then,

because I thought, you know,

what happens if they're
outside the school,

waiting for them, or whatever?

Going off places,
if we was, like,

walking round shopping and that,
she'd always make sure

she's at the back so that she can
watch us walk forward

in front of her. She'd want to know
where we were at all times.

É

As a kid, you're a bit like, ah, I
want to do this, I want to do that.

But obviously, growing up now,
you'd understand why,

why she was like that.

But he'll do it.
He'll get there.

I've seen him
growing into a young man now,

who's going to become a dad
himself.

So, yeah, it is a new chapter
in our book.

Through what's happened with me mum
and James, as becoming a dad,

seeing it from me mum's...seeing
me mum's eyes, really,

it is, it's going to make me
more protective

and hold the baby closer

than you'd think anyone could.

Well, I wanted James to be
remembered as a little boy

and not just the murdered child,

so we set up a charity in his name.

We started off with a caravan,

but we've upgraded that now
to a lodge.

When we first set up the charity,

we were, like,
deciding what's the best way to go

about it and to make it easier.

We had, like, such a wide spectrum,
didn't we?

50, families going through
bereavement, a parent, a child,

er, kids that have been bullied,

er, kids that have been
victims of crime.

We just wanted to give
them a free holiday.

I think James would be running up
and down here because the first

family holiday that we had
with James, was a caravan

and he absolutely loved it.
Loved it.

So, I mean, just seeing the smiles
on his face, remembering the smiles

on his face, I'm hoping that works,
spreading that to a lot of other

kids that come here.

I look back on this whole
case with enormous sadness.

James was let down by us,
really, because, you know,

his innocence was there
for everyone to see.

He was a two-year-old, so to see
his innocence taken away from him

like that is really, really sad
when I think about it.

I felt so totally helpless

and I remember trying
to keep it together.

I think people feel guilty
that they didn't stop it.

It was just really, really sad.

People could, like, look at their
kids and think,

maybe, just like, hug them tighter
or something because you don't

know what could happen to that
kid or to their child.

He's always there with us,

we're always there for him.

I think if there is such
a thing as closure,

I don't think I'm going
to get it sometime soon.

At this moment in time,
I don't see closure.

Every single day, even after
all these years, I miss him.

I miss him growing up,
I miss him, you know,

going on his own little venture,
whatever he'd become,

do or whatever.

Every single day without James,
he's missed.

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