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(LOW, SOMBRE MUSIC)
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JANE: I think we should move.
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JANE: I think we should move.
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I'm not leaving this house! I
want to be around life, not death.
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Not death, every single
minute of the day.
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Guilty. He can't be...
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Guilty. He can't be...
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The case against you is
a travesty of justice.
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The entire prosecution
case rested on this.
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The tracks on the
fragment are of copper,
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The tracks on the
fragment are of copper,
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covered by a layer of pure tin.
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What is this? No, this
is not the same fragment.
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JIM: And I will do everything
in my power to help you.
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JIM: And I will do everything
in my power to help you.
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I've just heard Megrahi is
being granted a second appeal.
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But there's nothing in here that
helps us discover what did happen.
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CRAWFORD: Was Megrahi framed?
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Whatever it is, they
want to keep it buried.
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Whatever it is, they
want to keep it buried.
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I'm so sorry, but
it's prostate cancer.
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MEGRAHI: I don't want
to die here, Jim.
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I don't want that either.
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RODERICK: There's a good
possibility that you're released
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RODERICK: There's a good
possibility that you're released
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on compassionate grounds and
you can keep your appeal.
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MEGRAHI: I will never
give up my appeal.
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My name will be cleared,
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and you will go on and find
out who really did this.
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LIBYAN OFFICIAL:
(SPEAKING ARABIC)
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(LOW, TENSE MUSIC)
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(SCREAMING)
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(SOMBRE, PIANO MUSIC)
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(SOMBRE, PIANO MUSIC)
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(GATE CREAKS OPEN)
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Oh.
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(DOOR UNLOCKING)
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You're going to miss us.
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Mmm... (CHUCKLES)
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Yes, of course.
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It's for you.
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It's for you.
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(MUSIC CONTINUES)
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(ENGINE STARTS)
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(MOTORCYCLE ENGINES REVVING)
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(GENTLE MUSIC)
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NEWS: Britain's biggest mass
murderer is now a free man,
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shown mercy by Scotland's
Justice Secretary.
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Shown mercy by Scotland's
Justice Secretary.
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NEWS: Mister al-Megrahi now faces a
sentence imposed by a higher power.
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REPORTER 1: Justice
Secretary knew his decision
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would be welcomed and reviled.
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Would be welcomed and reviled.
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REPORTER 2: The FBI
director sent a letter
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to Scotland's justice officials
blasting their decision
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to release Abdelbaset...
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REPORTER 3: The decision
gives comfort to terrorists
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around the world...
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around the world...
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This man was convicted
of murdering 270 people.
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He showed no compassion to them.
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Served only eight years, and
that works out at about two weeks
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Served only eight years, and
that works out at about two weeks
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for every one of
the lives he took.
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REPORTER 3: Liberty
comes at a price.
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Expected to die within months,
he will do so a guilty man.
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REPORTER 4: Downing Street
released a letter written by
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REPORTER 4: Downing Street
released a letter written by
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Prime Minister Gordon Brown,
asking the Libyan leader
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to handle Megrahi's
arrival with sensitivity.
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REPORTER 5: requested that
the Libyan authorities
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REPORTER 5: requested that
the Libyan authorities
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keep Megrahi's return
low-key. It was anything but.
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Alongside Megrahi was
Colonel Gaddafi's son,
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Saif al-Islam.
(PAUSE BUTTON CLICKS)
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(TELEPHONE RINGING)
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Hello, Jim Swire.
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Jim, Lance Ferguson
from the Mirror.
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You've got the TV on, right?
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You've got the TV on, right?
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Yes. How are you
feeling right now?
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You campaigned for
Megrahi to go home,
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and this is how he thanks you.
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Have you been played, Jim?
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Have you been played, Jim?
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Has Megrahi killed your
search for justice stone dead?
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(PHONE BEEPS OFF)
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(LOW, SOMBRE MUSIC)
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(LOW, SOMBRE MUSIC)
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(SIGHS)
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(ELEVATOR DINGS)
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(ELEVATOR DINGS)
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Jim, how long have
you been waiting?
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A couple of hours. I couldn't
reach you on your phone.
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We've been in meetings
all day, and...
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Roddy's tied up in another case.
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(DOOR CLOSES)
(TELEPHONE RINGING)
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(DOOR CLOSES)
(TELEPHONE RINGING)
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Come through.
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I don't know why he
abandoned his appeal.
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We fought so hard for him.
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Why did he do it?
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The Libyans requested
Megrahi's release
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The Libyans requested
Megrahi's release
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under a prisoner transfer
agreement between Libya and the UK,
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but, of course, he was
convicted in a Scottish court,
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but, of course, he was
convicted in a Scottish court,
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and under Scottish law, a prisoner
transfer cannot be granted
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if there's an ongoing appeal,
which obviously there was.
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That still left
compassionate release,
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which Megrahi met
the criteria for.
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Which Megrahi met
the criteria for.
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Terminally ill, no more
than three months to live.
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And, crucially, he didn't
need to drop his appeal.
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The case would have still
gone to the appeal court,
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The case would have still
gone to the appeal court,
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even if he was in Libya. Even
if he were to die in Libya.
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Well, that's what he
promised me would happen.
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His appeal would go on
no matter where he was.
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Then, at the eleventh hour, he
seems to have changed his mind.
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Then, at the eleventh hour, he
seems to have changed his mind.
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When he told us,
Roddy was devastated.
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And it all happened so quickly.
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And it all happened so quickly.
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He was smuggled out of the country
before anyone could notice.
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Did he leave anything for me?
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A message, letter?
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Nothing.
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I only have, um, his address
and telephone number in Tripoli.
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I only have, um, his address
and telephone number in Tripoli.
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(CLEARS THROAT) May I have it?
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I mean, surely... his hand
must have been forced.
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We may never find out.
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And maybe that's for the best.
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(PAPER TEARING)
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Thank you, John.
(CLEARS THROAT)
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(DOOR OPENS)
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(DOOR CLOSES)
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(LOW, SOMBRE MUSIC CONTINUES)
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(LINE RINGING)
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REPORTER: Reportedly
living in the family villa
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REPORTER: Reportedly
living in the family villa
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in an upmarket area of Tripoli,
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Abdelbaset al-Megrahi, the
convicted Lockerbie bomber,
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is still alive
after nine months.
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Is still alive
after nine months.
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ROBERT MENENDEZ: Very much
alive, and very much free,
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living in the lap of luxury,
by all accounts.(LINE RINGING)
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REPORTER 2: He only had
three months to live,
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REPORTER 2: He only had
three months to live,
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may actually live
another ten years.
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REPORTER 2: The medical
evidence seems to be,
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when you look at it
closely, highly suspect.
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When you look at it
closely, highly suspect.
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LEILA RICHARDS: Nearly one year
on, Mr al-Megrahi is still alive.
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(LINE RINGING) Correct.
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Have you been in
contact with him?
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I've tried, but I've
been unable to reach him.
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I've tried, but I've
been unable to reach him.
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Dr Swire, has al-Megrahi
got away with it?
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A cancer prognosis,
as any doctor knows,
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A cancer prognosis,
as any doctor knows,
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is an inexact science. Yes.
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And the inference that he is
somehow "getting away with it,"
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frankly, I find that offensive.
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Frankly, I find that offensive.
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Why else would he
drop his appeal?
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I, and many other members
of the UK Families group,
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believe that the authorities pushed
Mr al-Megrahi to drop his appeal
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believe that the authorities pushed
Mr al-Megrahi to drop his appeal
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so that they would
never be held to account
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for the false conviction
of an innocent man.
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And that is why I
consider Mr al-Megrahi
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And that is why I
consider Mr al-Megrahi
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to be the 271st
victim of Lockerbie.
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(SOFT DRAMATIC MUSIC)
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You realise how many people
will find that offensive?
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You realise how many people
will find that offensive?
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The purpose is not to offend people.
The purpose is to find the truth.
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(SIGHS)
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Thank you.
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(MUSIC FADES, ENDS)
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(MUSIC FADES, ENDS)
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Where are you going? Out.
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Where? God knows. I
just need some air.
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I wish sometimes
you'd think about us
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before you open
your mouth to them.
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(DOOR CLOSES)
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(DOOR CLOSES)
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(DOORBELL RINGS)
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(DOORBELL RINGS) Alright.
Alright, alright.
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Murray.
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Long time no see, Jim.
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I thought you'd given up on us.
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Well, this story's got a funny
way of pulling me back in.
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Well...
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Jane is over at
Cathy's. She, um...
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(DOOR CLOSES)
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She spends quite a bit of
time there with the grandkids.
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She spends quite a bit of
time there with the grandkids.
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Right.
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Order tends to break down.
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Ah, no milk. Sorry.
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Ah, no milk. Sorry.
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Mmm.
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(CLEARS THROAT)
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You look exhausted.
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Have you been following
the WikiLeaks story?
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Have you been following
the WikiLeaks story?
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Uh... No, not really.
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It's a media organisation
that's been leaking secret
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and classified
information online.
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And classified
information online.
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It's linked to all
sorts of stuff.
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Assassinations in Somalia,
government corruption in Kenya,
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Guantanamo Bay,
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and thousands upon thousands
of US embassy cables.
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Well, we've read a few
of those. (CHUCKLES)
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Everything that the powers
that be don't want us to see.
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Everything that the powers
that be don't want us to see.
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And I found something.
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Buried amongst it all.
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About Megrahi.
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The Libyans made a
direct threat to the UK.
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What do you mean, "threat"?
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What do you mean, "threat"?
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They wanted Megrahi
out. Home. ASAP.
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If he died in prison here,
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then all trade, political ties,
would be ceased immediately.
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Then all trade, political ties,
would be ceased immediately.
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Trade with Libya
means only one thing.
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Oil.
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You remember when Tony
Blair met Gaddafi in 2004?
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You remember when Tony
Blair met Gaddafi in 2004?
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The "Deal in the Desert"? Aye?
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Well, they met again in 2007,
and BP signed a £90million deal.
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Well, they met again in 2007,
and BP signed a £90million deal.
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And in that second
meeting, Blair and Gaddafi
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signed a prisoner
transfer agreement.
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And I reckon that was
only ever about one man.
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Megrahi.
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Yeah. The British wanted into
those oil fields desperately,
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Yeah. The British wanted into
those oil fields desperately,
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and Gaddafi suddenly is
threatening to rip it all up.
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They had no choice but to sign.
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So do you think the Labour
government put pressure
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on the Scottish
government to release him?
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On the Scottish
government to release him?
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Well, they claim they
didn't, but it's on record.
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Kenny MacAskill took phone
calls from Jack Straw,
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Kenny MacAskill took phone
calls from Jack Straw,
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Lord Chancellor and Justice
Minister at the time.
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And after that, MacAskill
met with Megrahi
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and his Libyan
lawyers in private.
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And his Libyan
lawyers in private.
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It caused an
outrage at the time.
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Now, we don't know what
was said in those meetings,
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but what we do know is
we've got two sides,
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but what we do know is
we've got two sides,
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both wanting what the other had.
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With Megrahi at the centre of it,
all reduced to a political pawn.
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With Megrahi at the centre of it,
all reduced to a political pawn.
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Aye.
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Makes you wonder what was
behind him dropping his appeal.
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REPORTER 1: The former Labour
government has been accused
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of organised hypocrisy.
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DAVID CAMERON: The Americans, they
wanted Megrahi to die in prison,
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DAVID CAMERON: The Americans, they
wanted Megrahi to die in prison,
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but saying privately to the Libyans
that they wanted him released.
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REPORTER 2: I'd like to know
if there was some kind of
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illicit deal here. There was a
story in many of the newspapers
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illicit deal here. There was a
story in many of the newspapers
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that this was done particularly
by the British government
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in return for getting an oil
contract. That would be despicable.
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In return for getting an oil
contract. That would be despicable.
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REPORTER 3: We need to know
what this oil deal was all about
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and whether there was a
compromise to the judicial system
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for commercial gain.
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INTERVIEWER: Some of your citizens
believe that it was the result
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INTERVIEWER: Some of your citizens
believe that it was the result
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of a deal, and that
deal had to do with oil.
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There was no deal. I can give you an
absolute, unconditional assurance...
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NEWS: The so-called Arab
Spring appears to be spreading
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NEWS: The so-called Arab
Spring appears to be spreading
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to Libya today, as hundreds
of anti-government protesters
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have clashed with police in
Libya's second city, Benghazi.
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Gaddafi, go away. We don't want
you. Neither you or your family.
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Gaddafi, go away. We don't want
you. Neither you or your family.
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REPORTER 4: Colonel
Gaddafi is crazy.
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They're worried he will
kill and kill and kill
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just to save his regime.
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Just to save his regime.
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REPORTER 5: This is not an
Egyptian-style protest movement.
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This is a war for Libya.
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HILLARY CLINTON: And the people of
Libya have made themselves clear.
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It is time for Gaddafi to go.
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It is time for Gaddafi to go.
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REPORTER 6: The rebel-held east of
Libya had been staring at defeat,
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but now they're tasting victory.
300
00:14:13,680 --> 00:14:15,680
REPORTER 7: A degree of
chaos is settling in here.
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There are simply too many
gunmen and no central authority.
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00:14:16,001 --> 00:14:19,080
There are simply too many
gunmen and no central authority.
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00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,200
REPORTER 8: Gaddafi,
from somewhere in hiding,
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is vowing to fight to the death.
305
00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:23,999
(SHOUTING IN ARABIC)
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(SHOUTING IN ARABIC)
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00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,040
DAVID CAMERON: I think
today is a day to remember
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all of Colonel
Gaddafi's victims.
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To Yvonne Fletcher, and
obviously those who died
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in connection with the Pan
Am flight over Lockerbie...
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in connection with the Pan
Am flight over Lockerbie...
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00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,280
REPORTER 9: With the fall of
Gaddafi, the darkest secrets
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of his regime are
beginning to surface.
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This is confirmation,
now that Colonel Gaddafi
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This is confirmation,
now that Colonel Gaddafi
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00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,560
personally ordered the
bombing of Pan Am Flight 103.
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00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,760
Libya's ex-foreign minister
reportedly telling a newspaper
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that Gaddafi gave the order
to Abdelbaset al-Megrahi.
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00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,736
That Gaddafi gave the order
to Abdelbaset al-Megrahi.
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00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,800
(LINE RINGING) This
brings into question
321
00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,240
the decision to approve
Megrahi's release.
322
00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:55,999
(SPEAKING ARABIC)
323
00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:56,800
(SPEAKING ARABIC)
324
00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,840
(LINE CONTINUES RINGING)
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(CALL CONNECTS) Baset?
326
00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,520
Baset, it's Jim Swire.
327
00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:09,960
(MAN SPEAKING ARABIC)
328
00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,999
No, please speak English.
Please speak English.
329
00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,336
No, please speak English.
Please speak English.
330
00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,360
(MAN CONTINUES SPEAKING ARABIC)
I need to know what's going on.
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00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,640
Baset, I need to know.
Please tell me why-
332
00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:20,000
(VOICEMAIL BEEPS)
333
00:15:20,001 --> 00:15:21,080
(VOICEMAIL BEEPS)
334
00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,999
(PHONE BEEPS OFF)
(LOW, TENSE STING)
335
00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,400
(PHONE BEEPS OFF)
(LOW, TENSE STING)
336
00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:37,640
Jim?
337
00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:45,880
Jim?
338
00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,200
(LOW, SOMBRE MUSIC)
339
00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,120
(KEYPAD BEEPING)
340
00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,960
(MOBILE PHONE RINGING)
341
00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,240
(BEEPS) (RINGING STOPS)
342
00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:16,000
(TENSE, DRAMATIC MUSIC)
343
00:16:16,001 --> 00:16:18,040
(TENSE, DRAMATIC MUSIC)
344
00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:29,120
Jim?
345
00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,000
Jim!
346
00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,560
(TENSE, DRAMATIC
MUSIC CONTINUES)
347
00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:47,999
Oh, thank God. Thank
God. (MUSIC FADES, ENDS)
348
00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,760
Oh, thank God. Thank
God. (MUSIC FADES, ENDS)
349
00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,640
Jim. (BREATHING HEAVILY)
350
00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:56,000
What are you doing here?
351
00:16:56,001 --> 00:16:57,520
What are you doing here?
352
00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:00,440
You're freezing.
353
00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:03,640
I was so sure.
354
00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,960
I thought Baset was
innocent, but...
355
00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:12,000
..I don't know anymore.
356
00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,000
..I don't know anymore.
357
00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:16,800
Don't know what to believe.
358
00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,040
And if I don't know
that, if I don't know...
359
00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,280
..what I believe, then...
360
00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:29,920
What will I do?
361
00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:34,880
That's 20 years
of my life wasted.
362
00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,280
With no one to blame but myself.
363
00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:45,760
You have to go.
364
00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:48,520
To Libya.
365
00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,280
I don't even know if
he's alive or dead.
366
00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,440
I don't want you to, but it's
the only way you'll find out.
367
00:18:00,120 --> 00:18:02,440
You have to find him
and you have to ask him.
368
00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:12,480
(DOOR CLOSES)
369
00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,999
(SOFT MUSIC)
370
00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,000
(SOFT MUSIC)
371
00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,720
(AIRPLANE ENGINE WHOOSHING)
372
00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:32,000
(LOW, TENSE MUSIC)
373
00:18:32,001 --> 00:18:34,160
(LOW, TENSE MUSIC)
374
00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:39,800
Taxi?
375
00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:43,960
(DRIVER SPEAKING ARABIC)
376
00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:51,440
Where do you want to go?
377
00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,120
Will you take me here?
378
00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,120
(DISTANT GUNFIRE, SHOUTING)
379
00:19:02,120 --> 00:19:03,999
It's too dangerous.
I have money.
380
00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,280
It's too dangerous.
I have money.
381
00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:06,720
How much do you need?
382
00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,200
Yalla. Get in.
383
00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,440
(DISTANT GUNSHOTS)
384
00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,160
(MAN YELLING IN ARABIC)
385
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,800
(EXCLAIMS IN ARABIC)
386
00:19:29,360 --> 00:19:30,440
Who are they?
387
00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,360
Militia. (SPEAKS ARABIC)
388
00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,160
Many, many militia everywhere.
389
00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:36,000
(TAPPING ON WINDOW) (LOW,
TENSE MUSIC CONTINUES)
390
00:19:36,001 --> 00:19:38,760
(TAPPING ON WINDOW) (LOW,
TENSE MUSIC CONTINUES)
391
00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,160
(CONVERSATION IN ARABIC)
392
00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,760
(CONVERSATION CONTINUES)
393
00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,360
(MILITIA MEN SPEAKING
ARABIC) (GATE CLATTERS)
394
00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:03,640
Thank you.
395
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,400
Ah, add it to my tip.
396
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:15,600
(DISTANT GUNFIRE AND EXPLOSIONS)
(LOW, TENSE MUSIC CONTINUES)
397
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,680
(DOG BARKING)
398
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,000
(CAR DOOR CLOSES)
399
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:48,000
(INTERCOM BUZZING)
400
00:20:48,001 --> 00:20:51,640
(INTERCOM BUZZING)
401
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:03,999
(SPEAKING ARABIC)
402
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:04,360
(SPEAKING ARABIC)
403
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:05,720
Uh, I'm Jim Swire.
404
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,320
Jim Swire. I'm from England.
405
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:09,760
I've come to see Baset.
406
00:21:10,360 --> 00:21:11,999
(SPEAKING ARABIC) I'm
here to see Baset.
407
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,560
(SPEAKING ARABIC) I'm
here to see Baset.
408
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,440
I'm here to see Baset.
(SHOUTING IN ARABIC)
409
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:18,920
(SPEAKING ARABIC)
410
00:21:21,120 --> 00:21:22,560
Bye-bye.
411
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,200
Baset!
412
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:27,999
Baset! (SPEAKING ARABIC)
413
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:28,080
Baset! (SPEAKING ARABIC)
414
00:21:28,120 --> 00:21:29,720
Alright! (SPEAKING ARABIC)
415
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,920
Baset! It's Jim!
(AISHA SPEAKING ARABIC)
416
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,999
It's Jim. (SPEAKING ARABIC)
417
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,040
It's Jim. (SPEAKING ARABIC)
418
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:54,760
Thank you.
419
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:00,000
(DOOR OPENS)
420
00:22:00,001 --> 00:22:01,400
(DOOR OPENS)
421
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,000
Ghada. It's just me.
422
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:07,920
I promise you, I came alone.
423
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,160
I needed to see him, so I came.
424
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:15,999
Then you're crazy.
425
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,000
Then you're crazy.
426
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:18,920
Yes, probably.
427
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:21,960
Is he here?
428
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,000
(SPEAKING ARABIC)
429
00:22:24,001 --> 00:22:26,280
(SPEAKING ARABIC)
430
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,720
(SPEAKING ARABIC)
431
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:34,600
Come with us.
432
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:36,960
(DOOR OPENS)
433
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,999
(AISHA SPEAKING ARABIC)
434
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:48,800
(AISHA SPEAKING ARABIC)
435
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,080
(ALL GREETING IN ARABIC)
436
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:23,880
You shouldn't have come.
437
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:25,840
I had to.
438
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,000
Libya is a dangerous
country. You could be killed.
439
00:23:28,001 --> 00:23:30,080
Libya is a dangerous
country. You could be killed.
440
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,360
I realise that.
441
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,000
Come.
442
00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:41,160
Please.
443
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,560
(DOOR CLOSES)
444
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,480
I know why you have come.
445
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:51,999
It was not to inquire
after my health.
446
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:52,960
It was not to inquire
after my health.
447
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,960
I phoned. I wrote letters.
448
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:57,600
I did not reply.
449
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,760
I saw this as a friendship.
450
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,040
It is friendship.
451
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,240
It is.
452
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,680
I gave you my word.
453
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,280
I broke my word.
454
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,520
Forgive me.
455
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,999
I know that dropping my appeal means
you're still not released from this.
456
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,696
I know that dropping my appeal means
you're still not released from this.
457
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:26,960
Why did you?
458
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,400
I had no choice.
459
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:31,999
I was allowed only to return
home to my family to die here.
460
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,760
I was allowed only to return
home to my family to die here.
461
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,200
Under one condition.
462
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:41,880
I still remain guilty.
463
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,999
I am only a tiny player in a...
464
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,240
I am only a tiny player in a...
465
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,120
..far greater game.
466
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,800
They don't care
about my innocence.
467
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:55,999
They never have.
468
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,000
They never have.
469
00:24:57,360 --> 00:25:00,240
I am no use to anyone
as an innocent man.
470
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,600
Only to you.
471
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,760
(LOW, SOMBRE MUSIC)
472
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,000
But I am tired now.
473
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,000
But I am tired now.
474
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:17,760
And I am dying.
475
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:20,000
I cannot take them on. I
cannot prove them wrong.
476
00:25:20,001 --> 00:25:24,360
I cannot take them on. I
cannot prove them wrong.
477
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:27,840
But you...
478
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,720
You can keep fighting.
479
00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:33,600
(MUTTERS)
480
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,240
(BUZZING)
481
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:43,999
(SPEAKING ARABIC)
482
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,000
(SPEAKING ARABIC)
483
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,360
(DOOR CLOSES)
484
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:58,480
We have worked on this together,
myself, Ghada, and John Ashton.
485
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:00,000
We had to keep it secret,
486
00:26:00,001 --> 00:26:01,760
We had to keep it secret,
487
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,560
for fear of censorship.
488
00:26:08,360 --> 00:26:10,800
John will publish
the findings soon.
489
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,360
Please, Jim. Open, open.
490
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:22,760
PT/35b.
491
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,240
The timer fragment.
492
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,720
The key piece of evidence
against my father.
493
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,999
The head of the FBI
investigation, Richard Marquis,
494
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:32,720
The head of the FBI
investigation, Richard Marquis,
495
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,240
said that without it, there would
not have been an indictment.
496
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,160
Without it, there is no
case against my father.
497
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,200
But John Ashton met the technician
who built the MEBO timer boards.
498
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,400
From the timers that
were supplied to Libya.
499
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:47,999
Mmm. He told him that the
circuitry on MEBO boards was coated
500
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,480
Mmm. He told him that the
circuitry on MEBO boards was coated
501
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,520
with an alloy of 70%
tin and 30% lead.
502
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:56,000
That is how he always
constructed them.
503
00:26:56,001 --> 00:26:57,521
That is how he always
constructed them.
504
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,120
But PT/35b was
coated with pure tin,
505
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,999
no lead whatsoever.
506
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:04,640
No lead whatsoever.
507
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,040
The fragment is not
from a MEBO board.
508
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,120
It was not sold to Libya.
509
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:12,000
But Feraday in court,
the forensics expert,
510
00:27:12,001 --> 00:27:15,480
But Feraday in court,
the forensics expert,
511
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,080
he swore that the timer fragment
was similar in all respects...
512
00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:20,000
..to the sample boards
obtained from MEBO.
513
00:27:20,001 --> 00:27:21,641
..to the sample boards
obtained from MEBO.
514
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:22,920
Feraday's notes.
515
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,440
The page is dated August 1991,
516
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:27,999
four months before
his forensic report.
517
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,520
Four months before
his forensic report.
518
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,920
He records that the metallic
coating on the fragment is pure tin.
519
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:35,999
But here, on this
page, he also states
520
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,880
But here, on this
page, he also states
521
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,480
that the metallic coating on
the sample board itself was...
522
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:43,999
You see? You see
what he's written?
523
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,360
You see? You see
what he's written?
524
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,400
In other notes, he even speculated
why there could be discrepancies.
525
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:52,000
He knew they weren't
an exact match.
526
00:27:52,001 --> 00:27:54,120
He knew they weren't
an exact match.
527
00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:58,240
The question is, who else knew?
528
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,000
The Scottish police,
the Crown office,
529
00:28:00,001 --> 00:28:02,000
The Scottish police,
the Crown office,
530
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,960
the prosecution, DOJ, CIA?
531
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,560
(LOW, SOMBRE MUSIC)
532
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,000
PT/35b...
533
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,120
..was planted.
534
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,999
The timer fragment has
no connection to Libya,
535
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,016
The timer fragment has
no connection to Libya,
536
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,760
and no connection to my father.
537
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,840
It was used only to frame him.
538
00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:24,000
The whole case against me
dissolves into thin air.
539
00:28:24,001 --> 00:28:26,200
The whole case against me
dissolves into thin air.
540
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,840
(SIGHS) (DOOR OPENS)
541
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,000
(ALL SPEAKING ARABIC)
542
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,720
Dr Jim Swire.
(GREETS IN ARABIC)
543
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:02,360
Jim...
544
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,920
How did I survive so long?
545
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,999
How did I confound
medical expertise?
546
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,440
How did I confound
medical expertise?
547
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,760
Here... is the answer.
548
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,000
We have lived so
long with the dead...
549
00:29:28,001 --> 00:29:31,000
We have lived so
long with the dead...
550
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,160
..and we must never forget them.
551
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:36,000
But how much sweeter...
552
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,000
But how much sweeter...
553
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,600
..to be with the living.
554
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:44,000
(GENTLE MUSIC)
555
00:29:44,001 --> 00:29:47,720
(GENTLE MUSIC)
556
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,240
(SIGHS)
557
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,240
When I die, Jim...
558
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,040
..I am going to a place
where I hope to see Flora.
559
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,160
I will tell her...
560
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,280
..that her father is my friend.
561
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,999
Go back, Jim. Go
home to your family.
562
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,440
Go back, Jim. Go
home to your family.
563
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:48,000
(MUSIC CONTINUES)
564
00:30:48,001 --> 00:30:49,880
(MUSIC CONTINUES)
565
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,480
Dr Swire?
566
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,999
Our father is not
the Lockerbie bomber.
567
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,520
Our father is not
the Lockerbie bomber.
568
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:08,560
He's a good man.
569
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:12,000
He's lucky to have
you as a friend.
570
00:31:12,001 --> 00:31:13,401
He's lucky to have
you as a friend.
571
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:16,760
Thank you.
572
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,400
(DOOR OPENS)
573
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,000
(INDISTINCT
ANNOUNCEMENTS OVER PA)
574
00:31:33,688 --> 00:31:35,999
(INDISTINCT
ANNOUNCEMENTS OVER PA)
575
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,360
(INDISTINCT
ANNOUNCEMENTS OVER PA)
576
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,960
Back in one piece.
577
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:52,000
Have you got
another trip in you?
578
00:31:52,001 --> 00:31:53,321
Have you got
another trip in you?
579
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,680
Skye, me, the kids,
the grandkids.
580
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,120
Will you come?
581
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:01,800
Am I wanted?
582
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:07,999
(SOFT STRING MUSIC)
583
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,720
(SOFT STRING MUSIC)
584
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,800
(MUSIC CONTINUES)
585
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,880
(MUSIC FADES, ENDS)
586
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,800
I'll leave you to it.
587
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,960
So where do you think
the fragment came from?
588
00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:01,360
We think, Baset, Ghada,
John Ashton, myself,
589
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,400
we think it was planted,
590
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,000
somewhere along the line.
591
00:33:04,001 --> 00:33:05,360
Somewhere along the line.
592
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,560
Planted where?
593
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,280
Well, it could have been planted
by the US intelligence services,
594
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:12,000
or the UK's, or both of
them conspiring together.
595
00:33:12,001 --> 00:33:14,800
Or the UK's, or both of
them conspiring together.
596
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,600
It's happened before.
597
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,000
Is that what happened here?
598
00:33:20,001 --> 00:33:21,081
Is that what happened here?
599
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,360
Have they fooled the
world for 30 years?
600
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,480
If you think about
everything that's happened,
601
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,520
is it really so wild a claim?
602
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,000
Let Iran off the hook, blame
the rogue state, Libya.
603
00:33:36,001 --> 00:33:38,560
Let Iran off the hook, blame
the rogue state, Libya.
604
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,360
Maybe there's some
truth in that.
605
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:43,999
Younger Murray believed it.
606
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:44,680
Younger Murray believed it.
607
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,960
"Just asking the question."
I've still got questions.
608
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,840
(CHUCKLES)
609
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,480
I'll never run out of them.
610
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,720
Why did Gaddafi want to get
one man back to Libya so badly?
611
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,840
Why was it so important to him?
612
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:00,000
Popularity? Yeah.
613
00:34:00,001 --> 00:34:01,600
Popularity? Yeah.
614
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,600
Partly, because Megrahi
is a hero, a martyr.
615
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,800
We saw that when he
got off that plane.
616
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,400
I think he was involved, Jim.
617
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:13,640
I really do.
618
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:15,999
I think Iran wanted revenge
for its Airbus being shot down.
619
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,720
I think Iran wanted revenge
for its Airbus being shot down.
620
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,640
They farmed it out
to the PFLP-GC,
621
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,960
but then they got busted
by the German police.
622
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,000
So someone else
stepped forward. Libya.
623
00:34:24,001 --> 00:34:26,000
So someone else
stepped forward. Libya.
624
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,640
I think when they handed Megrahi
and Fhimah over to be tried,
625
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:31,999
they didn't think
they'd be convicted.
626
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:32,640
They didn't think
they'd be convicted.
627
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,440
There wasn't enough evidence.
But he was found guilty.
628
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,999
Gaddafi owed it to
Megrahi to get him home.
629
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,680
Gaddafi owed it to
Megrahi to get him home.
630
00:34:41,720 --> 00:34:44,040
He owed it to all his
security service personnel
631
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,440
for keeping him in power.
632
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:47,999
But just because it
was a sham trial,
633
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,480
But just because it
was a sham trial,
634
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,440
it doesn't make
Megrahi innocent.
635
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:54,800
It was Libya.
636
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:56,000
It was also Iran.
637
00:34:56,001 --> 00:34:57,960
It was also Iran.
638
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,680
And Syria. And the Palestinians.
639
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:02,200
You believe all of them?
640
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:09,000
I don't think we ever truly
realise how much the West is hated.
641
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:11,999
And no wonder. Look
how we act, what we do.
642
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,560
And no wonder. Look
how we act, what we do.
643
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:15,920
Look how we justify it.
644
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,720
I mean, always someone else.
645
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,400
Never us.
646
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,000
You might never find the answer
you're looking for. You know that?
647
00:35:28,001 --> 00:35:30,601
You might never find the answer
you're looking for. You know that?
648
00:35:31,240 --> 00:35:33,280
Well, there, Murray, I
have to disagree with you.
649
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,000
That's new evidence.
650
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,000
That's new evidence.
651
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,400
No one can dispute it. No
one. Changes everything.
652
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:42,800
So the fight goes on.
653
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:43,999
Well, of course
the fight goes on.
654
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:44,640
Well, of course
the fight goes on.
655
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,120
They're gonna write that on
your gravestone, you know that?
656
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,160
Well, I'm not planning
one of those just yet.
657
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,440
It's been a hell of
a ride, Dr Swire.
658
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,000
It's far from over, Murray.
659
00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:05,680
It's far from over.
660
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:08,000
(SOFT DRAMATIC MUSIC)
661
00:36:08,001 --> 00:36:10,560
(SOFT DRAMATIC MUSIC)
662
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,560
Can I pay for that?
663
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:22,680
What's that?
664
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,760
The Lockerbie disaster.
665
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:28,920
What was that?
666
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,760
(WEATHER REPORT ON RADIO)
667
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,280
But again, essentially,
a dry picture.
668
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,520
And as I mentioned, warming
up as the week goes on.
669
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:48,000
And that's how it's looking at
the moment. Susan, back to you.
670
00:36:48,001 --> 00:36:50,441
And that's how it's looking at
the moment. Susan, back to you.
671
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,440
SUSAN: Thank you, Helen.
That was Helen Willets.
672
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:56,000
(BELLS CHIME)
673
00:36:56,001 --> 00:36:57,960
(BELLS CHIME)
674
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,999
(ON RADIO) BBC News at 6:00.
This is Peter Donaldson.
675
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,056
(ON RADIO) BBC News at 6:00.
This is Peter Donaldson.
676
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,200
(CLOCK CHIMES ON RADIO)
677
00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:17,800
Good evening.
678
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,999
The only person to be convicted
of the Lockerbie bombing
679
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:20,480
The only person to be convicted
of the Lockerbie bombing
680
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,880
has died of cancer
at his home in Libya.
681
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,240
David Cameron said the death
of Abdelbaset al-Megrahi
682
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:27,999
was a moment to remember the
victims of what he called
683
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:28,760
was a moment to remember the
victims of what he called
684
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,080
an "appalling terrorist act."
685
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,040
The Scottish government has said
investigations into the bombings
686
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,640
will continue.
687
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:36,000
An earthquake has
struck northern Italy...
688
00:37:36,001 --> 00:37:38,160
An earthquake has
struck northern Italy...
689
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,560
(CONTINUES INDISTINCTLY)
(LOW, SOMBRE MUSIC)
690
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:00,000
(MUSIC CONTINUES)
691
00:38:00,001 --> 00:38:02,200
(MUSIC CONTINUES)
692
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:05,120
WILL: Go! Come on!
Run, run, run, run!
693
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,600
(LAUGHS)
694
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:21,720
(SIGHS)
695
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:23,999
CATHY: Isabel! Archie, come on!
696
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,240
CATHY: Isabel! Archie, come on!
697
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,360
He's dead.
698
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,240
I don't know what to say.
699
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,600
At some kind of
peace now, hopefully.
700
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:47,999
But not you.
701
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,000
But not you.
702
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,280
Well, he's gone, but...
703
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:56,000
..it's not the end, no.
704
00:38:56,001 --> 00:38:57,560
..it's not the end, no.
705
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:04,000
There was a time I envied you.
706
00:39:04,001 --> 00:39:05,480
There was a time I envied you.
707
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,080
Your persistence, your anger.
708
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,840
How it drove you on.
709
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,240
Well, if I'd done nothing,
710
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,280
if I'd just sat down and
cried, I'd never have stopped.
711
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,760
All these years.
712
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,560
On and on and on.
713
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,240
It's always for her.
714
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,760
It's always been for her.
715
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,600
That night, the
night it happened...
716
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,040
..do you remember
the awful waiting?
717
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,280
Not knowing if she
was alive or dead?
718
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:52,000
(SOFT STRING MUSIC)
719
00:39:52,001 --> 00:39:53,040
(SOFT STRING MUSIC)
720
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,960
Sometimes I think we're no closer
to the truth now than we were then.
721
00:40:01,720 --> 00:40:06,360
Maybe the only truth is... we'll
never really know what happened.
722
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,200
And that breaks my heart.
723
00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:16,000
But once I started to accept
that I may never get an answer,
724
00:40:16,001 --> 00:40:18,840
But once I started to accept
that I may never get an answer,
725
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,760
I may never know...
726
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,960
..it meant that I could go on.
727
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,040
And I will.
728
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,040
For them.
729
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,120
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
730
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,000
(CHEERING) WILL:
Come on, come on.
731
00:40:40,001 --> 00:40:41,321
(CHEERING) WILL:
Come on, come on.
732
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,440
You can't give up. I know that.
733
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:48,000
I know.
734
00:40:48,001 --> 00:40:49,200
I know.
735
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,320
(SOFT MUSIC CONTINUES)
736
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:14,920
(CLEARS THROAT)
737
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,000
(CHUCKLES)
738
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:20,000
Lucas, I wanna catch this!
739
00:41:20,001 --> 00:41:21,041
Lucas, I wanna catch this!
740
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,120
(CHEERING)
741
00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:28,000
Oh, now things are going to
change up. Granddad's playing.
742
00:41:28,001 --> 00:41:30,600
Oh, now things are going to
change up. Granddad's playing.
743
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,000
(INDISTINCT CHATTER CONTINUES)
744
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,760
Look out over here.
Probably better get way out.
745
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,880
(BALL THUDS) Oh! Yeah!
746
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,600
We got out! We got him out!
747
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:07,999
(SOFT MUSIC CONTINUES)
748
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,280
(SOFT MUSIC CONTINUES)
749
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,000
(MUSIC FADES, ENDS)
750
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,600
(LOW, SOMBRE MUSIC)
751
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,480
JIM (MEMORY): It's too full.
752
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,600
FLORA: (WHISPERING) It's fine.
753
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,720
Ta-da! (LAUGHTER)
754
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:11,999
WILL: Dad, Mum, come here.
755
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,040
WILL: Dad, Mum, come here.
756
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:14,920
JANE: Why? What is it?
757
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,760
A newsflash.
758
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,040
A plane's gone down.
759
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,000
It won't be her
flight. It can't be.
760
00:43:20,001 --> 00:43:21,401
It won't be her
flight. It can't be.
761
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:23,920
CATHY: What's going on?
762
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,560
Cathy, did Flora
make her flight?
763
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,200
Yeah, I think so. Oh!
764
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,360
So all your damn computers,
765
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,320
and you can't say whether
my child is on that plane!
766
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,800
WOMAN: We have
confirmation for you.
767
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,600
The passenger list has
been checked and verified.
768
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:50,080
Flora MacDonald Margaret Swire was
a passenger on Pan Am Flight 103.
769
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:52,000
I'm afraid there
are no survivors.
770
00:43:52,001 --> 00:43:53,520
I'm afraid there
are no survivors.
771
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,160
(JANE AND CATHY SOBBING)
772
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:00,000
CATHY: (SOBBING) No...
773
00:44:00,001 --> 00:44:01,200
CATHY: (SOBBING) No...
774
00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:04,440
No, no.
775
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:07,999
(LOW, SOMBRE MUSIC CONTINUES)
776
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,080
(LOW, SOMBRE MUSIC CONTINUES)
777
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,760
MEGRAHI: We have lived
so long with the dead,
778
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,960
but how much sweeter
to be with the living.
779
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,480
MURRAY: It's been a hell
of a ride, Dr Swire.
780
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:31,880
LORD SUTHERLAND: Guilty.
781
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:32,000
(SILENT SCENE)
782
00:44:32,001 --> 00:44:34,480
(SILENT SCENE)
783
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,680
(SILENT SCENE)
(MUSIC CONTINUES)
784
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:00,400
Be with us.
785
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,999
(SOFT DRAMATIC MUSIC)
786
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:04,360
(SOFT DRAMATIC MUSIC)
787
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,200
(CROWD CHEERING)
788
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,200
(MUSIC SWELLS)
789
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,999
(MUSIC SOFTENS)
790
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,000
(MUSIC SOFTENS)
791
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,440
Go and have the
time of your life.
792
00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:30,040
FLORA: Love you, Dad.
793
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,400
(LOW, SOMBRE MUSIC)
794
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,160
(MUSIC CONTINUES)
795
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,960
(LOW, SOMBRE MUSIC CONTINUES)
796
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:48,000
(MUSIC FADES, ENDS)
797
00:46:48,001 --> 00:46:50,040
(MUSIC FADES, ENDS)
798
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,880
(LOW, SOMBRE MUSIC)
799
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,000
(THEME MUSIC)
800
00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:13,680
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