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We had no clue what the hell was going on,
and we were very pissed off.
Pan Am jumbo jet with 258 people on board.
First pictures
from the devastated town of Lockerbie.
Both Scotland and England
were strewn with wreckage.
The explosive leaves no trace.
There was no indication that there was
anything out of the norm on this aircraft this evening.
Attention.
They were too afraid because of the ongoing threat
of Gaddafi wanting to bomb American planes.
What isn't in doubt is that David Cameron shares many
of the same views on the value
of intervention as Tony Blair.
The question, what is it gonna mean for us in the future?
Yeah, it's just complicated.
How could this happen?
Why wasn't more done?
It felt like we were reliving this again.
Open it up.
I feel like I've spent a lot of my life trying
to find a book about somebody who's walked
through grief like this, like, some sort of resource.
And I haven't, and someone said to me once,
like, "Maybe that's because you're supposed to do that."
Like, grief is real even when you are walking
through grieving somebody you never got to know.
I was 11 months old when my mom died,
and when, you know, my first baby turned 11 months,
like, that was hard.
I'm gonna cry thinking about it.
Just to realize, like, that's how old I was when she died,
like, I was a baby, but, like,
I can't imagine, like, being ripped
out of my son's life, too,
and, like, all that I would've missed.
Like, it's so sad. It's tragic.
So sorry, now I'm crying.
It was my grandfather, my uncle, and my mom.
They all went to London for a four- or five-day trip,
but I believe it was actually supposed to be him
and my grandmother that were gonna go on the trip together.
But she had had a heart attack that summer previous.
And so my mom spent a lotta time taking care of her.
So as a thank you gift, my grandfather invited her,
and then my uncle just decided to go along with them
for this little adventure.
I, like, vividly remember looking at myself in the mirror,
and I look just like her,
and it, like, kinda scared me a little bit
'cause, you know, I have so much of this person in me
that I don't even know.
So we have lots of photos of that day.
I was part of the dedication that day,
so President Clinton was there, and he gave a speech.
I was, gosh, it was '95, so I was seven.
It was myself and three other kids were part
of the actual ceremony that day.
And we laid flowers with him.
I remember there were a lot of people there.
And-
There you go.
11 years ago, the nose cone
of the plane landed in a field beside the church.
800 square miles of both Scotland
and England were strewn with wreckage,
each tiny piece a potentially key piece of evidence.
The army, the police, and civilian volunteers
painstakingly gathered all the debris.
And it's from these fragments the prosecution will build
its case against the two Libyan accused
who deny any involvement in the destruction of Pan Am 103.
Forensic tests established
that the bomb was hidden in a Toshiba radio cassette player
concealed under clothes in a suitcase.
The investigation proved wide ranging,
and theory is abundant.
11 years on, and the tears are still flowing
as the relatives of the victims of Lockerbie arrive,
finally, for tomorrow's trial.
- I may be able to see these guys go to jail
and live long enough to see 'em get out.
And that's not justice.
It's, like, no doubt that they were guilty.
I don't know what they were thinking.
Their lawyers, they didn't have a defense.
They just asked questions, but they didn't-
Right.
- Didn't put up any defense of their own.
Right.
- They just thought they'd get off
for some magical reason, and they didn't.
Outside, many said they found
the guilty verdict quite overwhelming.
We all heaved a sigh of relief,
and we all held each other's hands, and we hugged,
and you know, but there's no noise in the court,
just a gasp.
Exactly how al-Megrahi managed to smuggle
a bomb through Malta airport has never been explained.
But the judges were satisfied that he did.
No wonder this trial has taken its toll.
These people have spent 12 years waiting for explanations,
12 years praying for justice.
This man was found guilty of murdering 270 people.
20 years is less than a month per victim.
And somehow that doesn't sit right with me.
Megrahi's brother gestured as he left court.
The relatives are left with a culprit
but not the whole truth.
This judgment makes clear that Megrahi wasn't alone.
The other men who planned this crime are still free tonight.
It's highly unlikely they will ever be caught.
It was all over the news.
I mean, at least in the United States,
you couldn't turn the channel
and not see a talk show, a interview, a radio show.
And I was on one of them.
I mean, Theo's parents asked me to go to London
and be interviewed by Diane Sawyer on "Primetime Live."
And I did that because I was very guilty at the time,
and I would've done anything.
I don't know if I would've done that today,
because I did feel like my story was twisted.
I know now how to take better care of myself.
But as a 20-year-old student who's just been
through a tragedy like that, I didn't, so I felt,
yeah, it's just complicated, and it's important to tell,
you know, like, news, and it's important we have news,
but there's just gotta be a better way of doing it
in the care of the people that you are interviewing.
- Did you get any guidance
from anyone in government?
- Absolutely none, absolutely none.
That, to me, is one of the positives that has come
out of this tragedy because the families created
a very solid group to support one another
that exists to this day in many ways
and lobbied very strongly to the US government
to make changes, so many of the ways
that you take for granted when you fly
in the United States are the result of what the victims
of Pan Am families did.
Victims of Pan Am Flight 103, or VPAF 103,
is the largest US-based family organization for the families
and friends of those who were killed on Flight 103.
It has four purposes.
The first is to seek the truth about this tragedy.
The second is to support family and friends.
The third is to advocate for increased safety for travel,
especially air travel, and finally to combat terrorism
and support national security.
There have been many terrible tragedies like that
that do not necessarily wind up
with active groups as Pan Am 103, VPAF 103 is.
I think it has, in some ways, helped in that sense
of purpose but also in the sense of comradery
that we are together in this situation, in this tragedy,
and we can help one another.
I'm the Pan Am 103 archivist here
at Syracuse University Libraries.
So I have responsibility for the collecting
and care of all of our collections
that have to do with the disaster.
We hold over 400 linear feet of material,
roughly 120 collections that are available
for public research,
everything from investigative photos turned personal effects
that have been donated by victims' families,
first-person accounts of the experience
in Lockerbie that night, and the beginnings
of the investigation, all the way through
to documentation of the construction of memorials,
materials about the trial, legislation for aviation
security that came out of Pan Am 103 so a whole range of
materials if it has to do with the disaster.
There's a woman named Carol Eckersley
who discovered in searching for a child
that she had given for adoption that he was one
of the victims on board the flight.
And whenever Carol comes, she makes a point of coming
to the archives and looking at the things
that we hold about Ken, her son.
Both of Ken's adoptive parents passed
before Carol, you know, discovered this information.
And it's almost as if they donated these things for her,
thinking that maybe Carol would come looking someday.
It's incredibly touching to spend time with her
when she's looking through these artifacts of his childhood.
Ken wanted to be a comic book illustrator at one point
in his life, and we have these fantastic comic books
that he created and all of his drawings from school.
And hers is just one of the more personal stories
and interactions that comes to mind.
It's always lovely to see them come through the doors
during Remembrance Week.
Early on, I remember a meeting at a restaurant
in Northern New Jersey called the Crow's Nest.
I think that was our first official victims' group meeting.
And we had a group of us who tried to help organize
the victims' family members.
There were parents of loved ones, there were spouses,
there were children, and nobody really knew what to do.
And so we met with congressmen and senators on Capitol Hill,
and I can remember going with my mother to meet
with the Senate staffers,
and everybody would have pictures of, in our case,
my sister Lynn and all the other victims.
And we just demanded that they listen to us
and that they talk about the state of aviation security,
which was one of our primary concerns as well.
How could a bomb end up on a plane
and blow an airplane like this out of the sky?
American 11,
climb and maintain at level three five zero.
American 11, Boston.
Mike Lima, how do you hear?
Mike Lima has you loud and clear.
American 11, Boston.
This is Boston.
I turned American 20 left, and I was gonna climb him.
He will not respond to me now.
We have some planes.
Just stay quiet, and you'll be okay.
We are returning to the airport.
- Is he inbound to JFK? - We don't know.
You don't know where he is at all?
He's being hijacked.
The pilot's having a hard time talking.
So I mean, we don't know.
We don't know where he's going.
Of course, when 9/11 happened here in the United States,
that became predominantly the story
about a terrorist attack, as it should.
But people don't realize that there was this other incident
that happened prior to that that was
really the first terrorist attack on American civilians.
Some young people don't know that this ever happened.
So I like that it's brought up so people know
that there's a longer history to this kind of loss
and this kind of collateral damage
that is created by geopolitics,
the power of that and how we need to continue to strive
to stop that warfare, you know.
That's the sun shining through what used
to be the World Trade Center.
All of the victims probably felt like we did.
We were just shocked and felt
like we were reliving this again.
How could this happen?
How could terrorists get onto airplanes
and hijack them in this manner?
I think the natural feeling from anybody
in our position is, why wasn't more done?
It was horrifying to see another group of victims die,
and victims' family members now have to deal
with the horror of the aftermath of tragically losing
someone you loved in a senseless act of violence.
- Should we tell 'em the story?
You may edit this out or whatever.
Kathy Tedeschi lived at the time in Princeton, New Jersey.
- That's right. - Okay.
She wrote something in her community paper,
and she said, "I am so sorry we failed you."
But what she said is, "We survived.
We lived through 103.
You can live through 9/11."
Right.
And this one woman
and her therapist called her immediately and said,
"We're having a support group meeting in the library
in the Jewish Community Center.
You'll be there, right?"
Right, so Kathy called us 'cause she said
there may be people there who lost children.
"And you might come to a meeting"-
- Right. - "the first meeting
- just to talk to people." - Right.
So we went there for two and a half years.
- For two and a half years. - Every Wednesday.
I mean, we're the only ones
that they can relate to, you know?
And as badly as our government treated us,
they treated them worse.
Yeah, and the stories
they would tell would be heartbreaking.
Yeah.
Bob did a lot of work on aviation security
and so forth, especially in the beginning.
The problem was
that the airlines didn't wanna pay for security.
They needed to have pilots,
they needed to have flight attendants,
they needed to have gas.
They needed those things,
but they didn't need the security to fly,
so they tried to save money on that.
They dragged their feet on a lot of stuff.
Could have been prevented.
At this point in time from the family members
that I have the privilege of knowing,
they've become quite savvy, I think,
and have been really helpful to other families,
and communities, and groups who have experienced
subsequent high-profile disasters or traumas.
So whether that be Oklahoma City, TWA, 9/11,
they've taken that experience, and their trauma,
and what they learned, and are passing it on to others
who unfortunately are gonna have to go through that.
- But does that mean, Leader Gaddafi,
does that mean supporting people who place bombs
and who kill and maim innocent people?
- We are not responsible about these means.
Who would've believed it?
Libya and Britain, Gaddafi and Blair shoulder to shoulder
in the war on terror.
Deals done today with Shell for gas exploration
with British airspace to build an airport.
One man who tried to sponsor terrorism in Britain,
another who condemns it at every step,
but today they're united, Al-Qaeda a common enemy,
proof once again that my enemy's enemy is my friend.
The Lockerbie bomber was not in court today
to give up his fight to prove his innocence.
His terminal prostate cancer now worsened considerably,
said his barrister, his prognosis extremely limited.
As soon as news broke last week
that he might be released on compassionate grounds,
they made it very clear they wanted al-Megrahi
to stay in jail in Scotland and die here.
In light of the circumstances laid
before us that we grant that leave.
The only man to be convicted
for the worst terrorist atrocity on British soil had served
just eight of the minimum 27 years
of his life sentence in Greenock Prison.
Al-Megrahi leaves prison to return to Libya
to his family and to die.
But he leaves behind him unanswered questions
about the Lockerbie bombing
and a storm of international protest.
It was not a political deal,
they said, but compassion.
Abdelbaset al-Megrahi boarded his plane
to Tripoli just two hours after Scotland's justice minister
had confirmed he was to be released.
It didn't feel like closure of any kind
because I felt like we're never really gonna know all
of the chess pieces that were happening
between the United States and Libya, United States and Iran,
and all the little pieces that were being moved around
that we don't even know about.
But some have come to light, much of which has come
to light by the work of "My Brother's Bomber" documentary
and all of the work that he did to uncover so much.
It's gonna be long.
You know, I hope I'm still alive by the time they get
through with this because they're talking-
- Years. - years of discovery.
We've seen the boxes from the floor to the ceiling
that the Lockerbie police are holding with evidence.
And then they're gonna get evidence from Germany,
and they're gonna get evidence from Switzerland, so if-
- And Malta. - And Malta,
and it's going to be a long, long process.
The new suspect is Abu Agila Mohammad Mas'ud,
who's already behind bars in Libya
on separate bomb-making charges.
The US alleges he conspired
with a fellow intelligence official, Abdelbaset al-Megrahi,
the only man ever convicted of the bombing.
Is the truth here in Libya?
Are there more answers to come?
I know that this is a part of the process of justice.
I know that because that's the profession
that I chose to be in.
You know, money recovered in a civil lawsuit, a conviction,
and jail term is another way that we, in civilized society,
try to compensate victims and try to address wrongdoing.
But at the end of the day, you have to really come to terms
with what's happened to you and your family.
And you have to make a determination
about how you're gonna live your life in the wake of that.
Some people were so consumed by anger
that they really became not effectively functional,
and they became embittered,
and kind of, you know, I think their lives were difficult
and probably shortened by what had happened.
Some people poured themselves into writing.
Some people became very spiritual.
Some people tried to help others,
and so a lot of different reactions to it.
And mine was to be purposeful, to try and think my career
as a prosecutor is an outgrowth of what happened to me.
I think my activity with the Victims of Pan Am Group
was certainly a reaction from me
to wanna do something to help people.
In October of '88, he wrote a philosophy of life,
which has been meaningful to people.
What does he say?
"So analytical tonight, feeling old at 20,
the lost innocence of youth.
Don't sit back. Make the most of everything.
Do all you can while you can.
Life is a one-time deal.
You can't ever redo what you miss the first time.
The opportunity is here.
Stop looking past it.
December 21st is going to be a great day,
but so is October 10th.
Be aggressive, be fun, go crazy.
There is no reason to hold anything back, nothing to lose."
One of Rick's Remembrance Scholars had
a tattoo on her wrist.
Yes.
So she's a second lieutenant in the army
in Korea right now, but on her wrist,
it says, "Nothing to lose."
Right.
And actually, it's in Rick's script.
She was just really a beautiful, beautiful person,
happy, a big personality, and she used to like
to drive my convertible when I wasn't around
I found out, and once drove it out of gas,
and had to figure out a way to gas it up
on the side of the road.
I wouldn't call her mischievous.
So that was a little out of character for her.
But she loved life, and so
it's really not fair
that she got robbed of it 'cause she really embraced it.
But I think that she is probably looking down on us
and hopefully is proud of the way we handled
the circumstances surrounding her leaving us.
So that's what I like to think of when I think of her.
Sorry for the emotion.
Three decades later, it still comes out.
- I know there's, I don't know which one it is,
but my grandfather, so my mom's dad who was with her
when he was stationed in Somalia,
he would write her letters,
and I know there's one specifically,
and I wanna say these are from, like, 1986,
maybe even sooner than that.
Yeah, 1986, just about how, you know,
some of the men he was working with,
their wives wanted to visit, but they were too afraid
because of the, like, ongoing threat of Gaddafi wanting
to bomb American planes.
I'm like, how ironic that he wrote that in a letter,
and two years later.
* Homeland Security, please lay your weapons down *
* Homeland Security *
* Please lay your weapons down *
* This is a rich man's war *
* What is the poor man fighting for *
* This is a rich man's war *
* What is the poor man fighting for *
* Roadside bombing and beheading *
* Done got outta hand *
* Roadside bombing and beheading *
* Done got outta hand *
* This is a rich man's war *
Prime minister, we've just come into Tripoli
surrounded by intense security.
Has our involvement here really been worth it?
- Yes, it has, because we helped to get rid
of a brutal dictator, Colonel Gaddafi,
who didn't just brutalize the Libyan people.
He gave Semtex to the IRA, killing our citizens.
He helped blow up an airliner over Lockerbie,
and his people killed Yvonne Fletcher
on the streets of London, so of course, Libya is better off,
and we are better off because Libya is better off.
Is it it difficult? Is it hard work?
Is it a long road to genuine democracy
and a secure country?
Yes, of course, it is.
One can debate how successful our involvement
in Libya has really been.
But what isn't in doubt is that David Cameron shares many
of the same views on the value
of intervention as Tony Blair.
The question, what is it gonna mean for us in the future?
I don't want history to continue to repeat itself.
So I do want people to know about this tragedy.
I felt like people didn't listen
to us here in the United States when we went to Congress,
and we said if they didn't do something,
it was gonna happen here.
And then 9/11 happened because they didn't listen.
The fire is still burning,
but from it has emerged a stronger spirit,
a more unified country, a more unified city,
and a more unified world in the goal of making certain
that something like this never happens again.
We are telling these stories to bring a humanity
to situations like these that are born
out of diplomatic war, geopolitical situations
that we believe don't affect us,
but this bomb was being made,
and this plan was being laid out
during my two years in college.
And I had no idea that this was heading directly
for me and for everyone who knew someone on that plane,
nor did the people on that plane know.
But all of the geopolitical decisions
and ramifications of one discotheque being bombed here
and retribution by the US in Libya,
we watch that every day glazed over on our news,
and we don't think it has the possibility
of ramming into our lives and huge political
and human toll that it can take,
not just for us, but for them, too.
And you don't understand the human cost
until you know the human.
And I want people to know these people,
and the students to know the legacy
that they are carrying when they're a scholar,
and the importance of not just knowing this person
but knowing this person and taking
that into the future when they think
about situations like this.
The Legacy Award is an award that was started
by the Victims of Pan Am Flight 103.
One of the recent scholars works for a US government agency
that is very much involved in terrorism prevention.
There is another scholar, a scientist,
who is actually working
on preventing missiles from striking.
There's another scholar who was in the military
when he was doing his graduate program
and has returned to the military for counterintelligence,
so just three examples of that.
You can become very cynical
and very worried that the world is going bad.
But when I look at the scholars,
when I look at the young people that I deal with
through the Remembrance and Lockerbie Scholarship,
I realize there's a lot of hope for the world.
The Lockerbie Scholars are two students
from Lockerbie Academy in Scotland who are selected
and come to Syracuse for one year as visiting scholars.
The Lockerbie Scholars are ambassadors at a very young age,
and they're always very good.
There's us two, and then there's
the 35, like, Syracuse Remembrance Scholars
'cause there was 35 on the plane.
So each person that is a Remembrance Scholar
represents one person on the plane.
The two Lockerbie Scholars each year,
one represents Andrew McClune,
and then the other represents the people
in Lockerbie that died on the ground.
In the archives at the library,
there's things from each of the students,
and the Remembrance Scholars go into the archives
and see who they relate to by student activities,
by geography, by whatever.
When one scholar met us, and she started quoting things
that Rick wrote 30 years ago word for word,
and saying, "Remember when Rick wrote this?"
I go, "No, I don't remember."
But she read every damn thing he wrote.
Yeah.
I represent Nicholas Andreas Vrenios.
A story of his that really resonates
with me is "Youthfulness."
He said, even though we're growing, you know,
we still have to keep the kid inside
of us just for positivity reasons.
We both have a love for music.
And I've gone to explore the magic of Pink Floyd
thanks to him as well as the magic of reggae.
I'm just more than happy to educate others about him.
I was chosen this year to represent Wendy Lincoln.
I was also the first student veteran
who has ever been selected for the Remembrance Scholarship.
And I'm super proud of that and very honored.
And it's just, it's an amazing experience
to remember the victims and to carry on their legacies.
I want to be for others what I wish I had to look up to.
During Remembrance Week, which is usually in October,
the Lockerbie Scholars are usually in the corners
of the room not talking to anybody
'cause there's, like, 10 times more people
in Syracuse University than live in Lockerbie,
so they were kids.
Claire was a kid, but she didn't know it.
So Claire was very talkative
and very demonstrative, and we connected with her.
When she left Lockerbie,
she and her father were at loggerheads.
Colin was a policeman, and he was Scottish,
and he didn't talk about nothing.
He was also the youngest policeman.
He had just graduated from the academy, the police academy,
I mean, like, a couple of weeks before the tragedy.
So not a meeting of the minds there.
But she came home in June, the following June,
and she said to her dad, "I understand what you went through
because I went to the archives.
I found all this stuff, talked to these scholars,
and they filled me in on what happened.
Now, I know."
And they started dialoguing,
and Colin started talking about it.
Mm-hmm.
First time he ever talked about it.
So it was 20 years after the fact
that he finally started talking about what happened.
And you've noticed he hasn't stopped talking about it.
All the stuff that he kept buried has come out.
Yeah.
He takes anybody you want on a tour.
Yeah.
He thinks he's the ambassador, which he is.
But it's just been wonderful to see
his connection with Syracuse and the way
that the town has come connected also to Syracuse.
As the first victims of the doomed jumbo jet
began their journey home to America tonight,
the town of Lockerbie turned out to grieve.
Parade, attention.
An honor guard was formed
from the policeman who worked so tirelessly
to search out the victims.
The chief constable gave the salute,
standing in the high street of the town,
Pan Am stewardesses struggling with their emotions.
The soldiers on the mountain rescue teams
with their dogs watched as the final journey began,
the people of America and Scotland united in grief.
We represent the Scottish side of the link
between Lockerbie and Syracuse.
And it's, like, making something good
out of something bad, like, look back, act forward.
And it's connecting people as well from here and there,
you know, 'cause they found a suspect, like, very recently.
But it's still, like, an incident
that is technically ongoing.
But I think there is still the ability to, like, move on
from that, regardless of the fact that it's an ongoing case
and regardless of the fact that, on a technical level,
there isn't any, like, closure.
People have still been able to move on.
I think that's important.
Group of cyclists now on route
on their final leg of a journey
from Lockerbie, Scotland, to Syracuse.
They left from Central Park
in New York City early this morning.
The group is made up of first responders
who are making the trip to mark the 30th anniversary
of the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103.
The cyclists are first responders who were called
to duty the night of December 21st, 1988,
when 270 people died in the terrorist bombing,
including 35 Syracuse University students.
- The cyclists are expected to- - This picture is
when they arrived in Philadelphia.
And in fact, they are in front of Independence Hall
where our Declaration of Independence
and our Constitution were signed.
My friends in Syracuse participated in that.
Both of them, like me, are former United States attorneys.
They actually both rode certain legs of the trip,
Dan French and Glenn Suddaby.
These are kind of dear friends who I met professionally
during my career with the Justice Department,
both of whom served as United States attorneys,
like I did, before me, and so for them to kind of fly over
to Lockerbie with us to be there when I went up to the site
where my sister's body was found,
it was just a beautiful act of friendship
that I really appreciate them doing.
60 tons of equipment here all landed
between that row of houses there
and that row of houses there,
which meant that people
like Peter were largely physically uninjured.
But the mental scars were another thing.
Got an email out of the blue from a chap
called Rick Otenasek, and Rick explained
that his mum lived near Baltimore.
So when we were in the US, would we mind stopping
to meet his mum?
Rick had laid on, I think, a reception.
Half the local town arrived at the sheriff's office
where there was press and, you know, a lot of family members
and things like that.
And this car pulls up, and Peggy gets
outta the passenger seat clutching a photograph
of her daughter and a pebble.
The connections in Lockerbie have made me realize
the global community in which this tragedy created
and the healing that exists within that.
Even though they live thousands of miles away,
I feel very close to them.
And you know, my daughter's about to go to England
for school, and everyone's like,
"How are you able to do that?
Aren't you scared?
Aren't you worried?"
And I'm the one that's been pushing her.
I was like, "Go experience life.
Go meet people from other places.
Go to uni there where you can meet people
coming from Europe.
Go expand.
You have this incredible opportunity,
and it shouldn't be stopped by my experience."
And it wasn't about being there.
It was about what happened when they tried to go home.
So it has no connection.
It's about choosing the paths that you wanna choose.
And I'm really happy I chose the fire service as my path.
You know, I'm very lucky, very lucky.
Yes, we have to deal with traumatic things,
but we sometimes help people,
which is what we join for.
We can't wait to take our kids to Lockerbie.
Like, this is their story, too, you know.
You get to know their stories,
you get to know their families,
and it just is so much bigger,
and it means more, and course, it's sad, it's tragic.
These are the people that have gone,
but it's, like, all these people now
that are also in my circle,
and I'm sure it's so much bigger than I even comprehend,
the connections that have been made.
Do we have a picture of the orchid in there?
- No. - Of course, I do.
Oh.
I got a picture everything.
I know, I know.
Last summer,
several of Rick's Remembrance Scholars came to our house.
Maddie came from Michigan.
Maddie came from Upstate New, where is she?
Maddie came from Upstate New York.
Right, before she went into this-
- Right- - active service.
And Kylie, we didn't get to meet in person
because she was a COVID Remembrance Scholar.
But she came from King of Prussia.
Maddie Messare brought this as a gift,
which was nice.
It bloomed. It was beautiful.
But the flowers all died over the winter.
I cut off the stems.
Two new stems came up, and we got more flowers.
- And we have more flowers. - So, I sent her a picture
of it saying, "You know, this gift keeps
on giving over and over again.
- Right. - She was happy.
Oh.
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