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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:28,870 --> 00:00:30,252 Hello. 2 00:00:30,452 --> 00:00:31,540 Yeah this is him. 3 00:00:31,930 --> 00:00:33,040 Yeah, I knew Angel. 4 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,240 She had a given talent to be able to change her appearance. 5 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:38,240 There were a lot of details 6 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:39,620 that were never released to the public. 7 00:00:39,820 --> 00:00:42,310 I don't know that I'm at liberty to release some of this 8 00:00:42,510 --> 00:00:43,447 stuff now actually. 9 00:00:43,647 --> 00:00:46,280 I very well remember that night. 10 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:49,060 Um, you know, when you're in law enforcement, you always 11 00:00:49,260 --> 00:00:51,920 have that 1 or 2 cases that 12 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:53,800 haunt you, and this is one of them. 13 00:00:56,350 --> 00:00:57,770 You know, the police arrived on 14 00:00:57,970 --> 00:01:01,430 scene that night around 11:15, 11:30. 15 00:01:01,630 --> 00:01:05,620 And, uh, you know, they were finding bodies up until the 16 00:01:05,820 --> 00:01:07,510 late afternoon the next day. 17 00:01:07,630 --> 00:01:09,670 The murder scene was horrific. 18 00:01:09,790 --> 00:01:10,640 See, what unfolded Monday 19 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,550 morning was heartbreaking to see. 20 00:01:15,450 --> 00:01:18,510 An autopsy is pending, but police say an edged weapon like 21 00:01:18,710 --> 00:01:21,540 a knife was used in what they call a targeted attack. 22 00:01:32,190 --> 00:01:34,970 I want to take the time to thank you guys for actually 23 00:01:35,170 --> 00:01:37,950 investigating this further, because this is probably 24 00:01:38,150 --> 00:01:40,030 Arizona's biggest unsolved 25 00:01:40,230 --> 00:01:43,200 murder mystery in the state's history. 26 00:01:44,010 --> 00:01:47,490 You know, I personally knew her for a while. 27 00:01:47,700 --> 00:01:50,140 This case is wild, without a doubt. 28 00:01:50,340 --> 00:01:55,710 I mean, prostitution, alcohol, drugs and a murder scene, 29 00:01:55,910 --> 00:01:58,050 that it just doesn't make sense. 30 00:01:58,082 --> 00:01:59,820 Of course naturally. I said, where are you 31 00:02:00,020 --> 00:02:00,520 and what's going on? 32 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,910 You know, he's supposed to be off duty on his way home. 33 00:02:03,870 --> 00:02:06,360 And then he just said that he needed technicians. 34 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:07,800 He needed other detectives. 35 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,310 He needed paramedics. 36 00:02:09,510 --> 00:02:10,900 You know, the police arrived on 37 00:02:11,100 --> 00:02:15,510 scene that night around 11:15, 11:30. 38 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:20,340 And, uh, you know, they were finding bodies up until the 39 00:02:20,540 --> 00:02:22,260 late afternoon the next day. 40 00:02:23,070 --> 00:02:24,670 The murder scene was horrific. 41 00:02:24,870 --> 00:02:29,940 And I don't understand how they say one person committed all 42 00:02:30,140 --> 00:02:34,080 these crimes, and she doesn't weigh 135 pounds wet. 43 00:02:34,920 --> 00:02:36,490 You know, I actually knew her. 44 00:02:36,690 --> 00:02:42,060 And I just can't see how somebody, one person can murder 45 00:02:42,260 --> 00:02:43,290 all those people 46 00:02:45,060 --> 00:02:46,080 by herself. 47 00:02:48,210 --> 00:02:50,460 You know, the police department, I mean, they really 48 00:02:50,660 --> 00:02:51,900 dropped the ball on this one. 49 00:02:52,140 --> 00:02:56,160 None of the evidence pointed to her, but she was still charged. 50 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,550 The state's case is set to resume on Tuesday. 51 00:02:59,750 --> 00:03:00,490 What if she really didn't do it? 52 00:03:00,690 --> 00:03:03,870 That means there's someone out there still, and we still have 53 00:03:04,070 --> 00:03:06,030 no idea who did it. 54 00:03:06,060 --> 00:03:07,120 We, you know, honestly, we 55 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,640 still don't really know what happened. 56 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,450 It's possible that it could have been somebody else there 57 00:03:12,650 --> 00:03:13,180 to help. 58 00:03:13,380 --> 00:03:15,960 But the Da never found an accomplice. 59 00:03:16,140 --> 00:03:19,050 And he had just finished up another crime scene and he was 60 00:03:19,250 --> 00:03:20,130 on his way home. 61 00:03:20,940 --> 00:03:27,060 I don't know what made him go, the direction he went. 62 00:03:27,260 --> 00:03:27,790 I have no idea. 63 00:03:27,990 --> 00:03:31,080 All I know is he got on the radio and started saying he 64 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:32,220 needed back up. 65 00:03:32,310 --> 00:03:33,310 She was a good person. 66 00:03:33,510 --> 00:03:37,140 She just, you know, got caught up in the wrong situation, just 67 00:03:37,340 --> 00:03:37,720 out of thin air. 68 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,750 She decided to kill everybody. 69 00:03:39,870 --> 00:03:41,020 It makes no sense. 70 00:03:41,220 --> 00:03:44,400 And this is why this case is still an open investigation. 71 00:03:57,140 --> 00:03:59,460 The Angel Adams case shocked 72 00:03:59,660 --> 00:04:02,420 the country as the facts became known. 73 00:04:03,140 --> 00:04:06,300 The story dominated the headlines. 74 00:04:06,500 --> 00:04:10,730 I'm really fascinated with the Angel Adams case. 75 00:04:12,570 --> 00:04:14,850 And people flocked to social media 76 00:04:16,470 --> 00:04:20,880 to express their views about Adams personal demons and 77 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:22,170 ethical quandaries. 78 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,860 Angel Adams I know that's everything everyone can talk 79 00:04:26,060 --> 00:04:28,380 about, but I'm sorry she did this. 80 00:04:28,500 --> 00:04:30,360 She came into Walmart on the north side. 81 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:31,560 She was really hot. 82 00:04:31,950 --> 00:04:33,640 Miss Adams is my favorite teacher. 83 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:36,840 I don't believe she could do a horrible thing like that. 84 00:04:37,140 --> 00:04:40,830 A community remains haunted by the unsolved murders 85 00:04:41,030 --> 00:04:42,555 surrounding Angel Adams. 86 00:04:42,755 --> 00:04:44,887 Man they accused my girl, 87 00:04:45,087 --> 00:04:47,220 Angel Adams of three murders. 88 00:04:47,670 --> 00:04:49,050 I don't believe that shit. 89 00:04:49,380 --> 00:04:50,940 She's a vile human being. 90 00:04:51,750 --> 00:04:55,230 Through a series of gripping interviews with key players, 91 00:04:55,430 --> 00:04:57,070 delve into a complex web of 92 00:04:57,270 --> 00:05:01,110 motives, suspects and cryptic clues. 93 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,950 She is a criminal who did horrendous things. 94 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:06,750 Angel Adams is guilty. 95 00:05:08,070 --> 00:05:12,560 The Angel Adams mystery ignites the curiosity and leaves you, 96 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:17,755 questioning the boundaries of morality and the lengths we 97 00:05:17,955 --> 00:05:22,950 will go to seek redemption in the face of unspeakable evil. 98 00:05:37,310 --> 00:05:38,900 I'm rockin, Robin. 99 00:05:39,470 --> 00:05:42,020 You know I like the strange and unusual. 100 00:05:46,330 --> 00:05:47,490 I'm one of those kind of people. 101 00:05:47,690 --> 00:05:48,650 If you've ever seen the movie 102 00:05:48,850 --> 00:05:50,270 Beetlejuice, remember the young girl? 103 00:05:50,470 --> 00:05:53,170 She said she is a bit strange and unusual. 104 00:05:53,370 --> 00:05:55,250 I am that person because I 105 00:05:55,450 --> 00:05:57,675 delve into things not only true crime. 106 00:05:57,875 --> 00:06:00,100 I see it from the police officer's side. 107 00:06:02,650 --> 00:06:03,950 I'm like everyone else. 108 00:06:04,150 --> 00:06:07,470 I'm curious why things happen the way they do. 109 00:06:07,670 --> 00:06:10,790 I want to know why people do the things they do. 110 00:06:10,990 --> 00:06:16,300 But I also have a weird sense of the not so normal reasons 111 00:06:16,500 --> 00:06:17,980 why things happen. 112 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,780 Um, you know, kind of like the paranormal stuff. 113 00:06:20,980 --> 00:06:24,070 I know it's weird to mix that with true crime, but we really 114 00:06:24,270 --> 00:06:27,160 don't know what goes on with people. 115 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,050 We really don't know what happens. 116 00:06:30,250 --> 00:06:33,390 And here's the biggest thing how do we explain evil? 117 00:06:33,590 --> 00:06:36,730 How do we explain somebody that you would never know? 118 00:06:36,930 --> 00:06:37,850 I mean, how many times do you 119 00:06:38,050 --> 00:06:40,000 see serial killer people interviewed? 120 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:40,700 Oh, I knew him. 121 00:06:40,900 --> 00:06:42,710 He was a great guy, but he's 122 00:06:42,910 --> 00:06:44,620 out there killing a bunch of people. 123 00:06:44,820 --> 00:06:46,340 We just don't know. 124 00:06:46,540 --> 00:06:51,490 So what I do as an investigator, I just like to 125 00:06:51,690 --> 00:06:53,390 dig deep and find out what's going on. 126 00:06:53,590 --> 00:06:57,045 I want to know what's going on in these people's minds. 127 00:06:57,245 --> 00:07:00,700 I want to know what happens because things happen that just 128 00:07:00,900 --> 00:07:01,940 don't make sense. 129 00:07:02,140 --> 00:07:06,270 And, you know, I do a lot of podcasts, I do interviews, I 130 00:07:06,470 --> 00:07:10,600 talk to people from all different walks of life, and I 131 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,710 find it really interesting to 132 00:07:12,910 --> 00:07:15,060 learn about people, their psyche. 133 00:07:15,260 --> 00:07:17,210 And I do get to talk to people 134 00:07:17,410 --> 00:07:19,840 that do things out of the ordinary. 135 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,770 Um, and why I get to sit down and ask them why? 136 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,760 Because that's a natural curiosity. 137 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,900 Why are we so much involved with true crime shows? 138 00:07:29,100 --> 00:07:32,050 Because we want to know the answer. 139 00:07:32,250 --> 00:07:34,375 Why? Why would you do that? 140 00:07:34,575 --> 00:07:36,500 And, you know, I'm really 141 00:07:36,700 --> 00:07:39,500 fascinated with the Angel Adams case. 142 00:07:39,700 --> 00:07:44,350 I mean, come on, lone survivor in a mass killing and she 143 00:07:44,550 --> 00:07:45,910 wasn't convicted. 144 00:07:46,300 --> 00:07:49,635 Um, there has to be more to the story than that in the 145 00:07:49,835 --> 00:07:53,170 investigator in me wants to just get a hold of this and 146 00:07:53,370 --> 00:07:55,075 find out why. 147 00:07:55,275 --> 00:07:56,780 What happened? 148 00:07:56,980 --> 00:08:00,010 Why is there no resolve in this case? 149 00:08:00,210 --> 00:08:02,080 How many years has it been now? 150 00:08:02,380 --> 00:08:03,960 Um, what about her friend? 151 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:05,540 You know, the friend she 152 00:08:05,740 --> 00:08:08,170 supposedly had conversations with? 153 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,650 Yeah, there's just way too many details that don't make sense. 154 00:08:12,890 --> 00:08:15,210 And you have to ask yourself 155 00:08:15,410 --> 00:08:18,950 again, how is she the only survivor? 156 00:08:19,610 --> 00:08:22,110 I'm not willing to turn my back on this. 157 00:08:22,310 --> 00:08:25,370 And I do know other people are not willing to turn their back 158 00:08:25,570 --> 00:08:25,910 on this. 159 00:08:25,940 --> 00:08:27,030 We want to find out what 160 00:08:27,230 --> 00:08:29,890 happened, and we want to know why. 161 00:08:30,090 --> 00:08:32,750 And of course, who? Who did this? 162 00:08:32,780 --> 00:08:34,920 There's no way this should go unsolved. 163 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:39,590 So I'm not going to stop until I unturned every stone. 164 00:08:39,790 --> 00:08:41,860 I'm going to go after whatever I can, 165 00:08:42,060 --> 00:08:43,976 and I'm not going to give up. 166 00:08:44,180 --> 00:08:45,510 And the coolest thing. 167 00:08:45,710 --> 00:08:50,245 I just happened to bump into the police dispatcher, and she 168 00:08:50,445 --> 00:08:54,980 wants to fill me in on some stuff, and she's not afraid to 169 00:08:55,180 --> 00:08:56,060 go on camera. 170 00:08:59,610 --> 00:09:01,650 I very well remember that night. 171 00:09:01,680 --> 00:09:04,230 Um, you know, when you're in law enforcement, you always 172 00:09:04,430 --> 00:09:07,740 have that 1 or 2 cases that haunt you. 173 00:09:07,940 --> 00:09:09,090 And this is one of them. 174 00:09:09,270 --> 00:09:12,830 Um, actually, I was, um, I was working with my detective, and 175 00:09:13,030 --> 00:09:16,590 he had just finished up another crime scene, and he was on his 176 00:09:16,790 --> 00:09:17,490 way home. 177 00:09:18,210 --> 00:09:24,360 I don't know what made him go the direction he went. 178 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:25,090 I have no idea. 179 00:09:25,290 --> 00:09:28,380 All I know is he got on the radio and started saying he 180 00:09:28,580 --> 00:09:29,670 needed backup. 181 00:09:30,210 --> 00:09:32,250 And of course, naturally, I said, where are you and what's 182 00:09:32,450 --> 00:09:32,880 going on? 183 00:09:32,970 --> 00:09:35,370 You know, he's supposed to be off duty on his way home. 184 00:09:35,910 --> 00:09:39,000 And then he just said that he needed technicians, he needed 185 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,650 other detectives, he needed paramedics. 186 00:09:41,850 --> 00:09:45,540 And then he told me, you know, that there was, you know, he 187 00:09:45,740 --> 00:09:47,410 was at this big, huge property. 188 00:09:47,610 --> 00:09:49,650 I think it was like, what, 2 or 3 acres? 189 00:09:49,850 --> 00:09:50,800 I don't remember now. 190 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:56,550 But he just said that there was a lot of bodies and he said 191 00:09:56,750 --> 00:10:01,140 something about a survivor. 192 00:10:01,650 --> 00:10:04,140 So of course, naturally, I started EMS, I started 193 00:10:04,340 --> 00:10:05,520 everybody that way. 194 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,640 And that ended up being a big mess. 195 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,140 You know, as far as. 196 00:10:11,610 --> 00:10:14,070 You know, there were a lot of details that were never 197 00:10:14,270 --> 00:10:14,710 released to the public. 198 00:10:14,910 --> 00:10:17,375 I don't know that I'm at liberty to release some of this 199 00:10:17,575 --> 00:10:20,040 stuff now, actually, because honestly, I don't want to get 200 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:20,650 in trouble myself. 201 00:10:20,850 --> 00:10:22,480 But the fact is that, you know, 202 00:10:22,680 --> 00:10:25,110 Angel Adams, initially she was charged. 203 00:10:25,830 --> 00:10:30,480 And then of course, as we all know, she was released. 204 00:10:32,580 --> 00:10:33,970 But I'm going to look at it as 205 00:10:34,170 --> 00:10:35,930 the point of the devil's advocate. 206 00:10:36,130 --> 00:10:37,890 Like, what if she really didn't do it? 207 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,130 What if she really didn't do it? 208 00:10:39,330 --> 00:10:42,510 That means there's someone out there still, and we still have 209 00:10:42,710 --> 00:10:44,670 no idea who did it. 210 00:10:44,700 --> 00:10:45,760 We, you know, honestly, we 211 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,510 still don't really know what happened. 212 00:10:48,930 --> 00:10:50,740 I just know that there was a lot of victims. 213 00:10:50,940 --> 00:10:54,575 There was a crime scene, honestly, that gives me I still 214 00:10:54,775 --> 00:10:58,210 wake up from bad dreams now because after I finished my 215 00:10:58,410 --> 00:11:01,380 shift, they asked me if I'd go out and help because they also 216 00:11:01,580 --> 00:11:04,170 knew I had experience as evidence technician, and they 217 00:11:04,370 --> 00:11:06,580 also knew that I had experience with photography. 218 00:11:06,780 --> 00:11:09,245 So they asked me if I'd go out there and help because, uh, the 219 00:11:09,445 --> 00:11:11,910 guy who was supposed to go out there and photograph the scene 220 00:11:12,110 --> 00:11:12,430 got sick. 221 00:11:12,630 --> 00:11:14,045 So they sent him home. 222 00:11:14,245 --> 00:11:15,660 So they sent me in there. 223 00:11:16,050 --> 00:11:19,770 You know, I'm not supposed to talk about this part. 224 00:11:22,140 --> 00:11:24,420 But when my officer found Angel, 225 00:11:26,340 --> 00:11:28,440 she was on the phone with someone. 226 00:11:29,220 --> 00:11:33,270 She called someone to come out there, and my officer heard her 227 00:11:33,300 --> 00:11:34,800 say, bring your camera. 228 00:11:37,210 --> 00:11:42,580 I'm still not entirely clear if that guy knew what had happened 229 00:11:42,780 --> 00:11:44,710 or knew what was going to happen. 230 00:11:44,770 --> 00:11:47,530 I don't know what the point was in calling him out there, but 231 00:11:47,730 --> 00:11:48,440 oh my God, they. 232 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,240 As soon as that guy arrived on scene, those cops were on him 233 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,350 like they were just all over him and they held him for 234 00:11:56,550 --> 00:11:58,730 several hours questioning what he knew about it. 235 00:11:58,930 --> 00:12:01,780 And of course, he was just insisting, you know, they'd 236 00:12:01,980 --> 00:12:02,630 been close. 237 00:12:02,830 --> 00:12:06,190 And whenever she got into any kind of situation, he was 238 00:12:06,390 --> 00:12:07,990 always the one she would call. 239 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,010 And she didn't tell him what was going on. 240 00:12:10,210 --> 00:12:13,125 She just said, bring your camera, bring your camera. 241 00:12:13,325 --> 00:12:16,240 So that poor guy ended up coming in and, um, definitely 242 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:17,510 being detained. 243 00:12:17,710 --> 00:12:21,130 And then finally they had to let him go. 244 00:12:21,370 --> 00:12:23,720 And to this day, they don't know if he actually had 245 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:29,980 something to do with it or if he really was just dragged into 246 00:12:30,180 --> 00:12:31,160 it by his friend. 247 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:32,870 And she's never been clear on 248 00:12:33,070 --> 00:12:35,020 why she brought him out there either. 249 00:12:35,560 --> 00:12:39,130 But my detective still has doubts about him, and he firmly 250 00:12:39,330 --> 00:12:42,310 believes that she had something to do with it, too. 251 00:12:42,510 --> 00:12:43,370 And the statements and things 252 00:12:43,570 --> 00:12:46,640 that she gave were just way out there. 253 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:52,180 Um, do you think you could, uh, is it possible to get us in 254 00:12:52,380 --> 00:12:53,480 contact with your detective? 255 00:12:53,680 --> 00:12:57,160 And would he be willing to talk about this case? 256 00:12:59,340 --> 00:13:01,363 I'm sure he would. I'm sure he would. 257 00:13:01,380 --> 00:13:02,040 I'll talk to him. 258 00:13:02,074 --> 00:13:03,340 We were. We were pretty close. 259 00:13:03,540 --> 00:13:06,660 We worked closely for years, and I know for a fact this this 260 00:13:06,860 --> 00:13:09,090 case still just really eats at him. 261 00:13:09,290 --> 00:13:09,510 Um. 262 00:13:11,230 --> 00:13:14,760 Frankly, it pisses him off because this is the one he 263 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,490 couldn't solve, and he does not like that at all. 264 00:13:20,380 --> 00:13:21,340 Rockin Robin. 265 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:22,540 I'm Detective Byrd. 266 00:13:23,050 --> 00:13:24,460 Detective Byrd, nice to meet you. 267 00:13:24,660 --> 00:13:25,180 Nice to meet you. 268 00:13:25,450 --> 00:13:26,475 How are you today? 269 00:13:26,675 --> 00:13:27,700 I'm good, I'm good. 270 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,310 In fact, I'm kind of looking forward to talking about this. 271 00:13:30,510 --> 00:13:30,470 Oh, good. 272 00:13:30,670 --> 00:13:32,290 I'm looking forward to hearing about it. 273 00:13:32,490 --> 00:13:33,250 So come on in. 274 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:34,240 Welcome to the studio. 275 00:13:34,330 --> 00:13:34,790 Let's have a seat. 276 00:13:34,990 --> 00:13:38,000 I know this may seem a little awkward for you, but 277 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,085 Beth, the dispatcher gave me your information, so I really 278 00:13:41,285 --> 00:13:44,170 do appreciate you being here to talk to me about this. 279 00:13:44,740 --> 00:13:48,730 Um, I know for a fact that this case has bothered you for a 280 00:13:48,930 --> 00:13:49,690 long time. 281 00:13:49,810 --> 00:13:52,930 I mean, I can see sitting here with me the level of concern on 282 00:13:53,130 --> 00:13:53,540 your face. 283 00:13:53,740 --> 00:13:56,500 And I've always been interested in it for some reason. 284 00:13:56,700 --> 00:13:57,860 It just bothers me as well. 285 00:13:58,060 --> 00:14:01,480 I mean, it doesn't make sense to me. 286 00:14:01,570 --> 00:14:03,540 She was the lone survivor. 287 00:14:03,740 --> 00:14:05,510 This is what happened. 288 00:14:05,710 --> 00:14:08,900 But yet there's so many variables going on here. 289 00:14:09,100 --> 00:14:13,090 There's so many people who have talked about things, and I tend 290 00:14:13,290 --> 00:14:14,780 to believe a lot of this is true. 291 00:14:14,980 --> 00:14:18,360 It's like, I'm not saying everybody is 100% truthful 292 00:14:18,560 --> 00:14:21,740 here, but there's a lot of information that I've had 293 00:14:21,940 --> 00:14:25,780 during my investigations that seem like we're getting the 294 00:14:25,980 --> 00:14:28,220 truth to some level out of some people. 295 00:14:28,420 --> 00:14:32,720 And, I mean, I know you're you're an officer. 296 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:37,170 Okay. I've, I've dealt with some really off the wall stuff 297 00:14:37,370 --> 00:14:41,620 during investigations, and it just doesn't seem right. 298 00:14:41,820 --> 00:14:44,652 It seems like there's something more to this. 299 00:14:44,852 --> 00:14:45,941 Without a doubt. 300 00:14:46,141 --> 00:14:47,230 And I mean it, 301 00:14:47,740 --> 00:14:52,150 I'm a skeptic myself, and I, and I know police officers have 302 00:14:52,350 --> 00:14:54,382 to follow a certain rule with investigations, but, 303 00:14:54,582 --> 00:14:54,940 We do. 304 00:14:55,330 --> 00:14:58,840 It just seems like there's something a little sinister 305 00:14:58,870 --> 00:15:00,190 going on here. 306 00:15:00,460 --> 00:15:01,850 Um, I mean, I don't know. 307 00:15:02,050 --> 00:15:03,710 I would correct you only to the 308 00:15:03,910 --> 00:15:05,950 extent that it's a little sinister. 309 00:15:06,150 --> 00:15:07,030 I think it's a lot sinister. 310 00:15:07,230 --> 00:15:07,600 You think so? 311 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:08,470 I do. 312 00:15:08,590 --> 00:15:10,550 This is that one case that really bothers me. 313 00:15:10,750 --> 00:15:16,688 We're talking a mass murder and lone survivor or involver, 314 00:15:16,707 --> 00:15:17,840 I don't know. 315 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,290 There's there's a lot there. 316 00:15:19,490 --> 00:15:20,540 There's a lot to unpack. 317 00:15:20,740 --> 00:15:24,310 So I am actually really appreciative of you hearing the 318 00:15:24,510 --> 00:15:25,840 story because I want to talk about it. 319 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:27,320 There's so much to talk about. 320 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:32,560 And not just Angel, but who is on the other end of that phone? 321 00:15:33,190 --> 00:15:34,510 Some camera guy. 322 00:15:34,750 --> 00:15:35,551 - Yeah. - What's with that? 323 00:15:35,751 --> 00:15:37,490 That doesn't make sense to me either. 324 00:15:37,690 --> 00:15:39,430 It makes sense if they're involved, 325 00:15:39,630 --> 00:15:41,140 then it does make sense. 326 00:15:41,290 --> 00:15:42,140 It just, 327 00:15:42,340 --> 00:15:45,520 it makes you wonder because she's the only one left. 328 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,270 Yeah. This stinks to high heaven. 329 00:15:47,470 --> 00:15:51,340 I can start at a lot of places, but where it really starts is 330 00:15:51,540 --> 00:15:52,330 with Angel. 331 00:15:52,870 --> 00:15:55,810 There's evidence on her miscarriage of justice. 332 00:15:56,260 --> 00:16:00,800 And why did she call that person that number, that 333 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,630 elusive individual that to this day, his information is 334 00:16:04,830 --> 00:16:06,865 redacted in almost every report. 335 00:16:07,065 --> 00:16:09,100 And that stinks to high heaven. 336 00:16:09,300 --> 00:16:10,060 It really does. 337 00:16:10,150 --> 00:16:11,918 That doesn't make sense to me. 338 00:16:12,118 --> 00:16:13,886 Thank you. It doesn't, right. 339 00:16:13,900 --> 00:16:15,280 Why would it be redacted? 340 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:16,090 Exactly. 341 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:17,621 Who are they? 342 00:16:17,650 --> 00:16:18,380 Who are they protecting? 343 00:16:18,580 --> 00:16:21,520 I don't somebody because that's not normal. 344 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:22,730 That's not normal protocol. 345 00:16:22,930 --> 00:16:25,780 I mean, I get you have to redact X amount of information, 346 00:16:25,980 --> 00:16:26,420 social security numbers. 347 00:16:26,620 --> 00:16:29,565 Sure. You know, maybe date of birth, maybe, but everything. 348 00:16:29,765 --> 00:16:32,710 Now, what's nice is I still have friends on the department, 349 00:16:32,910 --> 00:16:35,890 so if you want, I can definitely try to get that 350 00:16:36,090 --> 00:16:37,480 information for you through. 351 00:16:37,510 --> 00:16:40,000 It can't come from me, but I can get you that information if 352 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:40,340 that could help. 353 00:16:40,540 --> 00:16:42,145 Because I think he's the key. 354 00:16:42,345 --> 00:16:43,950 I really do. Now, is he dirty? 355 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,011 Yeah he is. He is. 356 00:16:46,030 --> 00:16:46,970 Without a doubt, he's dirty. 357 00:16:47,170 --> 00:16:52,600 But he could be helping her and they are helping him. 358 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,460 And so it could it could be the 359 00:16:54,660 --> 00:16:56,200 domino effect to solve this case. 360 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:57,740 I think he's the key, I really do. 361 00:16:57,940 --> 00:17:00,520 Okay, so why don't I give a get a crack at him. 362 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:01,900 Give me the opportunity with that. 363 00:17:02,100 --> 00:17:02,530 I mean. 364 00:17:02,650 --> 00:17:05,060 I love it and I will help in any way I can. 365 00:17:05,260 --> 00:17:09,880 I just if I do something not really above board, I just have 366 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:11,830 my name involved in that, I do, I. 367 00:17:12,030 --> 00:17:12,230 Don't know nothing. 368 00:17:12,430 --> 00:17:13,400 I have a good reputation. 369 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,450 I, you know, I'm not going to do anything to destroy that. 370 00:17:16,650 --> 00:17:18,010 You have my confidence in that. 371 00:17:18,210 --> 00:17:19,490 I will not do that to you. 372 00:17:19,690 --> 00:17:22,725 Okay. But if I can help you guys with this in any way, 373 00:17:22,925 --> 00:17:25,960 shape or form, I mean, look, how long is this gone on? 374 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:26,935 Oh, my God, decades. 375 00:17:27,135 --> 00:17:27,710 For a long time. 376 00:17:27,910 --> 00:17:28,660 - Decade. - Wouldn't you. 377 00:17:28,690 --> 00:17:30,580 Wouldn't you like to sleep at night? 378 00:17:30,850 --> 00:17:33,700 This will always bother me until justice. 379 00:17:34,660 --> 00:17:35,900 That's a mass murder. 380 00:17:36,100 --> 00:17:38,580 I mean, this is unheard of. 381 00:17:38,780 --> 00:17:41,060 Mass murders get solved. 382 00:17:41,260 --> 00:17:44,590 You don't redact and hide information. 383 00:17:44,790 --> 00:17:45,860 So I really do. 384 00:17:46,060 --> 00:17:48,400 Seriously, I really do appreciate you being involved 385 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:48,800 to the extent. 386 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:50,000 And I do think you could 387 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,420 probably get something where I couldn't. 388 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:53,960 I don't like this guy. 389 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,220 I don't, and it probably comes 390 00:17:56,420 --> 00:17:58,480 across when I talk to him, which. 391 00:17:58,870 --> 00:17:59,900 Give me a shot at it. 392 00:18:00,100 --> 00:18:01,940 Let me let me see what I can do with this guy. 393 00:18:02,140 --> 00:18:04,690 I would I would love for him to come clean because there's 394 00:18:04,890 --> 00:18:06,050 something he needs to come clean on. 395 00:18:06,250 --> 00:18:09,010 I don't know what it is, I don't, I just know it stinks to 396 00:18:09,210 --> 00:18:09,500 high heaven. 397 00:18:09,700 --> 00:18:11,298 He was the first phone call. 398 00:18:11,318 --> 00:18:13,771 I can't find information about him easily. 399 00:18:14,270 --> 00:18:17,870 Right. And why don't I get a chance to talk to this guy? 400 00:18:18,070 --> 00:18:20,240 So I don't like this guy now. 401 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:20,490 Thank you. 402 00:18:20,690 --> 00:18:21,520 I don't like this guy. 403 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:22,550 I've been excluded, so. 404 00:18:22,568 --> 00:18:23,809 Let me have a piece of him. 405 00:18:24,009 --> 00:18:25,050 Let me see what I can do. 406 00:18:25,250 --> 00:18:26,720 Maybe a little good cop, bad cop. 407 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,160 I would love that. 408 00:18:28,360 --> 00:18:29,600 I can't stay long. 409 00:18:29,780 --> 00:18:32,750 Um, but I don't want you to think that doesn't mean this 410 00:18:32,950 --> 00:18:33,420 isn't important to me. 411 00:18:33,620 --> 00:18:34,710 It is very important to me. 412 00:18:34,910 --> 00:18:36,440 I understand how important this is. 413 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,400 So I do, I do gotta take off. 414 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,460 But I will absolutely find you something. 415 00:18:41,660 --> 00:18:44,900 Something where you'll be able to talk to this guy. 416 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:45,985 Uh, I promise. 417 00:18:46,185 --> 00:18:47,210 And I'll just make 418 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,017 a phone call, you know, whenever I get something but. 419 00:18:51,048 --> 00:18:53,540 Listen, we're going to do our best with this, okay? 420 00:18:53,740 --> 00:18:54,270 I hope you can. 421 00:18:54,470 --> 00:18:56,763 - I mean it, I really do - We have to try, right? 422 00:18:56,780 --> 00:18:57,730 That's all we can do. 423 00:18:57,930 --> 00:18:58,880 Thank you for doing this. 424 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:00,150 Yeah. No worries. 425 00:19:00,350 --> 00:19:03,710 Okay. Um, you definitely hear from me. 426 00:19:03,910 --> 00:19:05,198 Okay. Works for me. 427 00:19:11,580 --> 00:19:12,480 This is Robin. 428 00:19:12,570 --> 00:19:15,069 Robin. Uh, detective Byrd here. 429 00:19:15,090 --> 00:19:16,500 Uh, is this a good time to talk? 430 00:19:16,530 --> 00:19:17,640 Absolutely. 431 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,300 I do have a name, I have information. 432 00:19:21,330 --> 00:19:24,415 Again, please don't release you got this from me. 433 00:19:24,420 --> 00:19:25,480 I don't know nothing. 434 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:26,830 I don't know where it came from. 435 00:19:27,030 --> 00:19:31,470 Um, I got your email from last week, so can I just email you 436 00:19:31,670 --> 00:19:32,230 the information? 437 00:19:32,430 --> 00:19:34,350 And that way there's nothing on the phone that way. 438 00:19:34,550 --> 00:19:35,310 Yeah, we can do that. 439 00:19:35,510 --> 00:19:36,270 It'll keep you safe. 440 00:19:37,110 --> 00:19:39,614 Do me a favor at the top just put info. 441 00:19:39,810 --> 00:19:40,881 You got it. Just info 442 00:19:40,890 --> 00:19:41,580 Just info. 443 00:19:41,610 --> 00:19:42,660 You don't have to do anything else. 444 00:19:42,860 --> 00:19:43,180 I'll expect that. 445 00:19:43,380 --> 00:19:45,072 So this way. I don't know the email. 446 00:19:45,090 --> 00:19:47,670 Don't know it's coming from you retrospectively. 447 00:19:47,870 --> 00:19:48,340 It's just there. 448 00:19:48,540 --> 00:19:50,375 So this way I know it's coming from you. 449 00:19:50,575 --> 00:19:52,410 Perfect. We'll keep it on the down low. 450 00:19:52,610 --> 00:19:54,255 Thank you. I truly appreciate that. 451 00:19:54,455 --> 00:19:57,091 And godspeed. Get this guy. 452 00:19:57,120 --> 00:19:58,805 You got it. I'll do my best. 453 00:19:58,830 --> 00:20:00,230 Thank you. Thank you for everything. 454 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:01,060 Get some rest, man. 455 00:20:01,260 --> 00:20:02,370 - Thanks, bye. - Take care. 456 00:20:09,270 --> 00:20:10,200 I miss her. 457 00:20:11,340 --> 00:20:13,050 She was a true friend. 458 00:20:13,338 --> 00:20:14,132 Um. 459 00:20:15,290 --> 00:20:20,150 She ended up in a really bizarre situation that, 460 00:20:22,250 --> 00:20:24,830 really cost her, her life. 461 00:20:26,180 --> 00:20:26,660 Um, 462 00:20:28,070 --> 00:20:31,790 at some point during this process, you're going to think 463 00:20:32,030 --> 00:20:33,590 I was involved. 464 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,940 I have no idea why she called me that night. 465 00:20:38,140 --> 00:20:39,530 It just doesn't make sense. 466 00:20:40,790 --> 00:20:45,710 But I met Angel, uh, in college, actually. 467 00:20:46,300 --> 00:20:50,200 We went to one of the local community colleges here in 468 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,360 Phoenix and psychology class, 469 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,520 actually a veteran psychology class. 470 00:20:55,720 --> 00:21:01,510 Uh, one day I walk in and, uh, you know, it's a normal day, 471 00:21:01,990 --> 00:21:03,550 Professor's giving a lecture, 472 00:21:04,780 --> 00:21:06,820 class was was pretty packed. 473 00:21:07,020 --> 00:21:09,270 And. The closest seat. 474 00:21:09,450 --> 00:21:15,210 Available seat was right next to her, so I go and sit down. 475 00:21:16,550 --> 00:21:18,050 Start to take notes. 476 00:21:18,380 --> 00:21:23,150 I just so happened to glance over at her laptop and, uh, 477 00:21:24,530 --> 00:21:26,250 you know, I probably wasn't 478 00:21:26,450 --> 00:21:28,435 supposed to see what was on there. 479 00:21:28,635 --> 00:21:30,420 It was just by sheer luck, honestly. 480 00:21:30,620 --> 00:21:37,790 But I looked over and there were these pictures of her, uh, 481 00:21:37,990 --> 00:21:40,970 looked like she had done what is known as a boudoir 482 00:21:41,090 --> 00:21:42,590 photography shoot. 483 00:21:43,190 --> 00:21:46,790 And, uh, you know my reaction? 484 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:52,250 This is where the spark in our relationship really happened. 485 00:21:52,490 --> 00:21:56,320 Um, you know, at that time, I was starting a photography 486 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,930 business, and, you know, she let me know that she was having 487 00:22:01,130 --> 00:22:05,540 trouble trying to upgrade the resolution and quality of these 488 00:22:05,740 --> 00:22:07,500 pictures that she had recently taken. 489 00:22:07,700 --> 00:22:11,120 You know, I knew a little bit about Photoshop and how to 490 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,200 upgrade the resolution of images. 491 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:18,800 So, um, you know, I taught her the difference between 72 dpi 492 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,360 and 300 dpi. 493 00:22:20,690 --> 00:22:27,680 So, um, her and I, you know, became friends, you know, based 494 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,820 off of, uh, you know, photography. 495 00:22:30,020 --> 00:22:33,410 And then, of course, you know, psychology class, you know, she 496 00:22:33,610 --> 00:22:36,650 was in school to be a school teacher. 497 00:22:36,860 --> 00:22:38,400 And, you know, that was her 498 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,170 goal for, you know, her future self. 499 00:22:42,890 --> 00:22:47,240 You know, after that day in class, you know, we, you know, 500 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:48,240 got closer. 501 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:54,200 And, uh, eventually she invited me over to her place to. 502 00:22:55,460 --> 00:22:57,500 Do a photo shoot. 503 00:22:57,980 --> 00:22:59,410 Let's be honest here. 504 00:22:59,610 --> 00:23:00,840 Angel was the reason. 505 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:05,300 You know, my photography prices started at $50 and then 506 00:23:05,500 --> 00:23:07,970 eventually went up to $200 an hour. 507 00:23:08,570 --> 00:23:13,195 Uh, you know, she introduced me to a network of, of individuals 508 00:23:13,395 --> 00:23:18,020 that, um, were paying for the right, you know, product, high 509 00:23:18,220 --> 00:23:18,930 resolution images. 510 00:23:19,130 --> 00:23:24,290 And, you know, you got to keep in mind this is 2008, 2009 when 511 00:23:24,490 --> 00:23:27,380 cell phones, you know, the images weren't that great. 512 00:23:27,620 --> 00:23:31,460 Uh, you know, professional photography and things like 513 00:23:31,660 --> 00:23:34,250 that were, you know, still at the forefront. 514 00:23:34,450 --> 00:23:35,340 You know, the phones weren't 515 00:23:35,540 --> 00:23:37,740 advanced as they are in the present. 516 00:23:37,940 --> 00:23:43,300 So I go over to her apartment and, you know, her living room 517 00:23:43,500 --> 00:23:48,860 is pretty much a photography studio, except she didn't have 518 00:23:49,060 --> 00:23:49,290 the camera. 519 00:23:49,490 --> 00:23:52,310 She was, you know, having her friend taking these pictures 520 00:23:52,510 --> 00:23:52,560 and stuff. 521 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:59,390 So I set up my camera and, uh, you know, we go through, uh, a 522 00:23:59,590 --> 00:24:01,200 photo shoot, you know, we get 523 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,190 some pretty decent photos of her. 524 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,940 Um. You know, once again, I'm still starting out fresh. 525 00:24:08,140 --> 00:24:10,820 Actually, the angel was my my first. 526 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:12,780 A model that I worked with. 527 00:24:12,980 --> 00:24:16,945 So, um, you know, we're going through the, the motions of 528 00:24:17,145 --> 00:24:21,110 photography, and then, of course, you know, conversation 529 00:24:21,310 --> 00:24:22,650 is just going to start. 530 00:24:22,850 --> 00:24:28,220 So during this photo shoot, I learned that Angel was, 531 00:24:29,450 --> 00:24:33,410 she was an escort, you know, she was pulling in extra money 532 00:24:33,610 --> 00:24:34,230 for college. 533 00:24:34,430 --> 00:24:35,310 She didn't have any kids. 534 00:24:35,510 --> 00:24:38,960 But, you know, she had a certain lifestyle that, you 535 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,730 know, she wanted to live. 536 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,420 She could live by all means. 537 00:24:42,620 --> 00:24:46,700 That's her God-given right to do whatever you know she wants 538 00:24:46,900 --> 00:24:46,860 to do. 539 00:24:47,060 --> 00:24:50,210 So you know, she traveled. 540 00:24:51,450 --> 00:24:55,590 Dressed extremely well, her dress code and her appearance 541 00:24:55,790 --> 00:24:56,740 and, you know, wanting to 542 00:24:56,940 --> 00:24:58,550 travel and see different things. 543 00:24:58,750 --> 00:25:00,880 That's that was priority to her. 544 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,010 So, you know, she did exactly that. 545 00:25:03,210 --> 00:25:06,120 Things got personal and I learned a lot about her. 546 00:25:06,690 --> 00:25:10,680 One being photography and then two, you know. 547 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,970 You know, I used to sell a herb, you know, weed back in 548 00:25:15,170 --> 00:25:15,190 the day. 549 00:25:15,390 --> 00:25:17,200 So, uh, you know, it's legal 550 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,120 now here in the state of Arizona. 551 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,850 But, you know, back then, it was it was illegal. 552 00:25:23,050 --> 00:25:26,380 And, uh, you know, she was very private about that. 553 00:25:26,580 --> 00:25:31,110 So, you know, she opened up and she, you know, let me in and, 554 00:25:31,140 --> 00:25:38,550 um, you know, we formed a bond very quickly based off of 555 00:25:38,750 --> 00:25:42,070 pretty much photography, uh, our goals, 556 00:25:42,270 --> 00:25:44,910 and then, of course, you know, blazing trees. 557 00:25:45,110 --> 00:25:46,680 And she was old school. 558 00:25:47,130 --> 00:25:51,060 There was only three of her friends that actually knew she 559 00:25:51,260 --> 00:25:52,230 even smoked. 560 00:25:52,500 --> 00:25:58,020 We were probably the only people that she really let in 561 00:25:58,230 --> 00:25:59,110 to her life, 562 00:25:59,310 --> 00:26:01,300 and you knew knew her secrets. 563 00:26:01,500 --> 00:26:04,380 And, you know, we never judged her anything like that. 564 00:26:04,580 --> 00:26:06,690 That's why it's so confusing. 565 00:26:07,260 --> 00:26:12,500 Um. How the events turned out between all of us. 566 00:26:13,010 --> 00:26:18,410 One of the things that really stood out about Angel, I've 567 00:26:18,610 --> 00:26:23,600 never seen women gravitate to her like they did. 568 00:26:23,630 --> 00:26:26,030 She wasn't afraid to be herself. 569 00:26:26,390 --> 00:26:29,900 She was very outspoken. 570 00:26:30,260 --> 00:26:33,480 She was on her grind 24/7. 571 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,560 And, you know, I never judged her. 572 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,640 I never knocked her for what she did. 573 00:26:37,730 --> 00:26:40,770 She was young, you know, beautiful. 574 00:26:40,970 --> 00:26:43,670 Did everything that I believe she wanted to do. 575 00:26:43,700 --> 00:26:48,020 She wasn't ashamed of her line of work, especially with 576 00:26:48,110 --> 00:26:50,430 college and and stuff like that. 577 00:26:50,630 --> 00:26:56,570 You know, she had goals and, you know, being an escort 578 00:26:56,900 --> 00:27:01,370 helped her achieve those goals in a very quick fashion. 579 00:27:01,490 --> 00:27:06,440 Now, she kept her business to herself even after she became a 580 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:07,310 school teacher. 581 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,380 We were the only ones that knew. 582 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,150 So throughout the semester, you know, she booked more 583 00:27:14,350 --> 00:27:15,800 photography shoots with me. 584 00:27:16,010 --> 00:27:21,020 We'd sit back and blaze and just talk about our future. 585 00:27:21,220 --> 00:27:24,960 You know, we talked about the future quite often. 586 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,600 One thing that she definitely wanted was a husband, a family. 587 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:34,970 So, you know, I was doing her photo shoots pretty much. 588 00:27:35,170 --> 00:27:42,170 I was her personal photographer from 2009 to 2013. 589 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:48,200 Uh, you know, once we graduated, she immediately 590 00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:51,140 became a school teacher. 591 00:27:58,620 --> 00:27:59,970 Kim was the wild one 592 00:28:01,050 --> 00:28:02,490 during the semester. 593 00:28:03,660 --> 00:28:06,340 You know, photography shoots her vamping up. 594 00:28:06,540 --> 00:28:10,740 You know, she's booking probably three shoots a month 595 00:28:10,940 --> 00:28:11,560 with me. 596 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:17,550 And, uh, it allowed me to get better with working with, uh, 597 00:28:17,750 --> 00:28:19,150 you know, models, indoor 598 00:28:19,350 --> 00:28:21,250 photography and things like that. 599 00:28:21,450 --> 00:28:28,590 So one shoot in particular, I get inside and there's someone 600 00:28:28,790 --> 00:28:29,490 else there. 601 00:28:29,940 --> 00:28:37,050 And this is when, you know, I'm introduced to her friend Kim. 602 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,690 Kim was her, you know, business partner. 603 00:28:43,350 --> 00:28:48,180 Kim and Angel, they had a hustle and they took that 604 00:28:48,210 --> 00:28:53,040 hustle across the United States, you know, with being 605 00:28:53,550 --> 00:28:55,740 their personal photographer. 606 00:28:56,430 --> 00:29:01,085 Uh, you know, you hear a lot of, of stories, but, uh, you 607 00:29:01,285 --> 00:29:06,662 know, you learned a lot and you learned about how, you know, 608 00:29:06,862 --> 00:29:12,240 these women would use the strip club for to meet a client, and 609 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,780 they met clients of all levels. 610 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,690 Um, you know, politicians, sports figures. 611 00:29:19,890 --> 00:29:22,540 They met all kinds of people in the strip club. 612 00:29:22,740 --> 00:29:26,600 And then from there, you know, if if the client wanted to do 613 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,660 things outside of it, they would take that to that level, 614 00:29:30,860 --> 00:29:32,230 whether it was a private show 615 00:29:32,430 --> 00:29:35,675 or, you know, in the adult film industry. 616 00:29:35,875 --> 00:29:39,120 So, I mean, they were out there for sure. 617 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:44,920 And automatically you could tell Kim was the wild one. 618 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,070 She was the exact opposite of Angel. 619 00:29:48,610 --> 00:29:52,330 Kim did a lot of things without thinking about it. 620 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,150 Kim was just off the hook, man, you know? 621 00:29:55,180 --> 00:29:59,230 But they were a very good team. 622 00:29:59,260 --> 00:30:03,010 The chemistry between the two of them on camera. 623 00:30:03,580 --> 00:30:06,945 I always wondered if there was something sexual that happened 624 00:30:07,145 --> 00:30:11,397 between the two of them, and they just didn't talk about it 625 00:30:11,597 --> 00:30:15,850 because Angel's personality changed when Kim was around. 626 00:30:16,570 --> 00:30:18,890 She didn't talk about the future. 627 00:30:19,090 --> 00:30:24,460 She was more about being in the now, in that moment when Kim 628 00:30:24,660 --> 00:30:29,470 was around and, you know, Kim was the how can I put it? 629 00:30:29,670 --> 00:30:32,860 Kim was the spokesman of the two. 630 00:30:33,430 --> 00:30:37,118 Kim, very beautiful, gorgeous. 631 00:30:37,318 --> 00:30:40,490 You know, she she was a go-getter for sure. 632 00:30:40,690 --> 00:30:44,650 She probably was the one who roped the clients in. 633 00:30:45,420 --> 00:30:47,880 And you know, Angel sealed the deal. 634 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,030 They'd leave Phoenix. 635 00:30:49,230 --> 00:30:53,040 I mean, that, you know, I texted her and she'll be in 636 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,390 Florida, Texas the next 637 00:30:55,590 --> 00:30:59,117 weekend, New York the following weekend. 638 00:30:59,550 --> 00:31:03,590 I mean, that was I think they were more than friends. 639 00:31:03,790 --> 00:31:07,830 They were, uh, like I said, they were business partners. 640 00:31:08,130 --> 00:31:11,730 Um. They traveled, they they experienced 641 00:31:11,930 --> 00:31:13,297 almost everything you could. 642 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,880 You know, the pictures are there, you know, but she did a 643 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,140 lot in a short period of time. 644 00:31:23,670 --> 00:31:28,535 And you got to be careful because Kim is no longer alive. 645 00:31:28,735 --> 00:31:33,602 Right. So if it was up to Kim, Angel would have remained an 646 00:31:33,802 --> 00:31:38,670 escort, remained in the adult entertainment industry, and did 647 00:31:38,870 --> 00:31:40,080 that the rest of her life. 648 00:31:40,590 --> 00:31:47,640 Angel becoming a school teacher was a threat to business and 649 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,980 the partnership that the two of them had. 650 00:31:50,010 --> 00:31:54,800 I think the education side of Angel was definitely a threat 651 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,790 to Kim, and this could have been the reason for a fallout, 652 00:31:59,990 --> 00:32:03,390 but the events and how everything turned out, just 653 00:32:03,590 --> 00:32:04,650 like I said, it doesn't. 654 00:32:04,850 --> 00:32:05,710 It doesn't make sense. 655 00:32:05,910 --> 00:32:12,990 Also, shortly after graduation, Angel, you know, got her first 656 00:32:13,190 --> 00:32:13,890 teaching job. 657 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,150 She was a substitute teacher for, uh, Simpson Elementary, 658 00:32:18,350 --> 00:32:20,400 then eventually became the full 659 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,450 time teacher at the same school. 660 00:32:22,650 --> 00:32:24,840 So the kids that she was substituting, 661 00:32:25,910 --> 00:32:27,450 she's teaching those same kids 662 00:32:27,650 --> 00:32:29,420 just at the next level at third grade. 663 00:32:29,620 --> 00:32:31,520 So it worked out for her. 664 00:32:31,670 --> 00:32:35,150 And this is also where she met Jake. 665 00:32:38,570 --> 00:32:40,250 You know the one thing about Jake, 666 00:32:40,450 --> 00:32:41,090 Angel, 667 00:32:42,140 --> 00:32:44,510 Angel wouldn't admit it, but I knew it. 668 00:32:44,710 --> 00:32:45,090 She loved him. 669 00:32:45,290 --> 00:32:48,650 And the reason why I say that is because, you know, when 670 00:32:48,850 --> 00:32:51,740 you're a friend, a true friend is somebody. 671 00:32:52,950 --> 00:32:56,190 Any time they're dating someone and they go through 672 00:32:56,390 --> 00:32:57,730 relationship issues. 673 00:32:57,930 --> 00:33:01,620 You know, those phone calls to get that male point of view. 674 00:33:02,350 --> 00:33:03,320 She would always call me. 675 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:08,770 But when Jake came, those phone calls slowed down and, 676 00:33:09,550 --> 00:33:12,380 I believe that was a genuine relationship. 677 00:33:12,580 --> 00:33:15,370 Like I said, she won't admit it, but she loved him. 678 00:33:15,860 --> 00:33:16,880 And. 679 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:24,385 This was really the second I believe issue that Kim may have 680 00:33:24,585 --> 00:33:31,010 had, because that partnership began to separate even further. 681 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,830 Um, but Jake was a school teacher. 682 00:33:33,860 --> 00:33:35,750 You know, he taught at the same school. 683 00:33:35,950 --> 00:33:37,370 He was a fifth grade teacher. 684 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,910 Jake was just a you know, he was a man's man. 685 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,360 You know, he played baseball, knew sports, 686 00:33:44,870 --> 00:33:46,380 he was smart, educated. 687 00:33:46,580 --> 00:33:49,620 And also because he was a teacher, you know, that was 688 00:33:49,820 --> 00:33:54,530 something that Angel just, you know, she gravitated towards 689 00:33:54,730 --> 00:33:55,520 him because of that. 690 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,280 Jake was that guy. 691 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:05,840 And that probably was a a threat to Kim because 692 00:34:07,670 --> 00:34:10,850 Angel began to travel with Jake. 693 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,610 Jake became that travel buddy. 694 00:34:14,250 --> 00:34:19,320 You know, a lot of the videos that she would send me when she 695 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,480 was with Jake, they were always on some nature hike. 696 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:28,680 And, you know, she really began to grow as an individual. 697 00:34:29,910 --> 00:34:35,220 But she still had this second life with Kim, and Jake didn't 698 00:34:35,420 --> 00:34:36,240 even know about it. 699 00:34:36,630 --> 00:34:38,790 This is where Angel. 700 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,630 Someone who was living a double life. 701 00:34:45,370 --> 00:34:50,590 Now, one thing about Angel, she had a given talent to be able 702 00:34:50,790 --> 00:34:52,210 to change her appearance. 703 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,940 So the school teacher that we saw. 704 00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:00,910 Was not the same person that was in the clubs or booking 705 00:35:01,110 --> 00:35:03,460 private shows and in the adult industry. 706 00:35:04,030 --> 00:35:08,680 You might have seen her in some adult films and pick your kid 707 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,650 up from school, and had no idea it was the same person. 708 00:35:11,850 --> 00:35:13,390 She was that good. 709 00:35:13,630 --> 00:35:19,480 In reality, Angel's growth was far more important than Kim's 710 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,240 need for that lifestyle. 711 00:35:22,510 --> 00:35:27,730 Angel was in that lifestyle because it helped her, uh, get 712 00:35:27,930 --> 00:35:28,780 through school. 713 00:35:28,930 --> 00:35:31,390 It helped her pay for the things that she wanted, the 714 00:35:31,590 --> 00:35:33,700 lifestyle she wanted, the place, the car. 715 00:35:34,330 --> 00:35:40,600 And Kim was in that lifestyle because, you know, like I said, 716 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,540 you got to be careful because she's no longer alive. 717 00:35:43,740 --> 00:35:46,390 But, you know, I think Kim needed, 718 00:35:46,540 --> 00:35:48,400 needed that attention. 719 00:35:48,910 --> 00:35:53,170 So when Jake came into the picture, Jake was that that guy 720 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,920 that that angel could, uh, share more than just a 721 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,060 friendship with. 722 00:35:58,090 --> 00:36:00,950 It, you know, was a genuine relationship. 723 00:36:01,150 --> 00:36:04,390 I truly believe it was a genuine relationship because 724 00:36:04,590 --> 00:36:06,460 most of the guys prior, 725 00:36:07,810 --> 00:36:10,030 you know, her independence alone, 726 00:36:11,140 --> 00:36:13,030 uh, intimidated men. 727 00:36:14,250 --> 00:36:19,260 But Jake was a cool dude, loved sports, loved education. 728 00:36:19,460 --> 00:36:20,860 He was an educator, a true educator. 729 00:36:21,060 --> 00:36:24,840 He actually coached too, so he knew the game of football. 730 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,830 Um, you know, loved volunteering, giving back to 731 00:36:29,030 --> 00:36:29,710 the community. 732 00:36:29,910 --> 00:36:31,830 And they hit it off immediately. 733 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,330 Don't get me wrong now, business was still business 734 00:36:36,530 --> 00:36:38,520 between Kim and Angel. 735 00:36:39,450 --> 00:36:43,920 They would still leave, go to different cities, book shows, 736 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:48,690 private events, adult films, things like that. 737 00:36:48,870 --> 00:36:50,280 But Jake didn't know. 738 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:56,195 That's probably the toughest part about being that male 739 00:36:56,395 --> 00:37:01,590 friend is knowing some of the things that, that I feel 740 00:37:01,790 --> 00:37:03,300 personally, he should have known. 741 00:37:03,570 --> 00:37:08,700 And Angel didn't want those two worlds to collide. 742 00:37:09,030 --> 00:37:11,010 I mean, think about it. 743 00:37:11,210 --> 00:37:12,780 You know, uh. 744 00:37:14,910 --> 00:37:17,550 Here on this hand, you have this person who? 745 00:37:19,210 --> 00:37:20,410 Is an escort, 746 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,600 travels around the nation, 747 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,350 booking private shows, strip clubs, 748 00:37:26,590 --> 00:37:28,480 she's in adult films 749 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,850 and now in this hand, she's graduated college, 750 00:37:33,940 --> 00:37:35,890 she's become a schoolteacher, 751 00:37:36,340 --> 00:37:40,210 she's met a guy that probably she could spend the 752 00:37:40,410 --> 00:37:42,710 rest of her life with, and 753 00:37:42,910 --> 00:37:45,340 she's trying to balance those two. 754 00:37:45,370 --> 00:37:48,580 She does not want these two worlds to collide. 755 00:37:51,700 --> 00:37:53,780 I'm extremely skeptical here. 756 00:37:53,980 --> 00:37:57,910 I don't really trust what anyone has to say. 757 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,320 You've got these people saying this, these people saying this, 758 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:03,410 and then you're dealing with 759 00:38:03,610 --> 00:38:06,090 things going into the court system. 760 00:38:06,290 --> 00:38:08,660 And why weren't certain things allowed? 761 00:38:08,860 --> 00:38:11,230 You have to ask yourself that question. 762 00:38:11,590 --> 00:38:17,350 Um, again, I am a huge skeptic and I'm focused on the actual 763 00:38:17,550 --> 00:38:20,470 details of what's going on here. 764 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,450 And I'm hearing stories from these people and these people, 765 00:38:24,650 --> 00:38:28,420 and everyone's like in my ears with their advice on who to 766 00:38:28,620 --> 00:38:29,860 believe, what to believe. 767 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:36,010 But again, I need to see the facts as they are and not just 768 00:38:36,210 --> 00:38:38,800 somebody saying what they think it is. 769 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,840 Show me the real details. 770 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,880 Okay, let's see that. 771 00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:47,410 Angel was going to do anything to make sure Jake didn't find 772 00:38:47,610 --> 00:38:50,110 out about her second life. 773 00:38:51,470 --> 00:38:57,860 But, you know, the thing about that is those worlds were going 774 00:38:58,060 --> 00:39:00,380 to eventually collide. 775 00:39:01,190 --> 00:39:06,710 And one night Angel called me and I knew it was serious 776 00:39:06,910 --> 00:39:09,680 because one she was crying, but two, 777 00:39:11,030 --> 00:39:15,260 she wasn't crying about what Jake did to her. 778 00:39:15,710 --> 00:39:19,610 She was crying about what she did to Jake. 779 00:39:20,090 --> 00:39:25,040 What happened was she was with a client of hers that was 780 00:39:25,240 --> 00:39:26,630 actually here in Phoenix, 781 00:39:26,810 --> 00:39:30,680 somebody that she saw regularly. 782 00:39:31,010 --> 00:39:38,390 And, um, she pretty much told him that she was with Kim, but 783 00:39:38,590 --> 00:39:41,540 in reality, she was with this client. 784 00:39:41,740 --> 00:39:44,690 And, um, Jake called a couple times. 785 00:39:45,020 --> 00:39:46,610 She didn't pick up, 786 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,430 and that wasn't like her 787 00:39:49,610 --> 00:39:51,980 because she was always with Kim. 788 00:39:52,430 --> 00:39:54,480 And any time they were out, she 789 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,450 had no problem picking up the phone. 790 00:39:56,780 --> 00:39:58,550 So Jake calls Kim 791 00:39:59,690 --> 00:40:01,520 and finds out that 792 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,030 Angel is not with Kim. 793 00:40:05,420 --> 00:40:08,510 There was this park that, uh, 794 00:40:09,860 --> 00:40:12,680 Angel would tell me she would go to with this, 795 00:40:13,940 --> 00:40:15,530 this client of hers. 796 00:40:15,650 --> 00:40:22,520 And, um, the next day, while Angel and her client are there, 797 00:40:22,730 --> 00:40:26,070 you know, typical fashion, Jake shows up with flowers. 798 00:40:26,270 --> 00:40:31,930 He's walking around, you know, he recognizes somebody that is 799 00:40:32,130 --> 00:40:37,790 built like Angel, and he walks over there and sees her pretty 800 00:40:37,990 --> 00:40:42,150 much, you know, in some other guy's arms. 801 00:40:42,350 --> 00:40:45,890 Jake recognized who he was, and there was a confrontation. 802 00:40:46,090 --> 00:40:49,140 And those worlds that Angel 803 00:40:49,340 --> 00:40:51,950 tried to separate finally collided. 804 00:40:52,700 --> 00:40:55,250 And she was devastated, heartbroken. 805 00:40:56,070 --> 00:40:59,750 This was the first time that Angel had called me with 806 00:40:59,950 --> 00:41:03,630 problems, and they were all about her, and she recognized 807 00:41:03,830 --> 00:41:06,600 that she couldn't do this anymore. 808 00:41:06,990 --> 00:41:09,210 He deserved to know the truth. 809 00:41:09,450 --> 00:41:13,980 But you know, from what I understand, Jake was pretty 810 00:41:14,180 --> 00:41:16,680 heartbroken, uh, hurt, 811 00:41:17,010 --> 00:41:18,910 And he, 812 00:41:19,110 --> 00:41:20,160 he left her. 813 00:41:20,190 --> 00:41:23,160 Left her right there in the park. 814 00:41:23,340 --> 00:41:27,240 So we're on the phone, and she is just. 815 00:41:27,390 --> 00:41:28,600 She's going through it. 816 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,900 She's not happy with herself, 817 00:41:31,100 --> 00:41:32,190 her actions. 818 00:41:32,850 --> 00:41:34,080 Um, you know. 819 00:41:35,230 --> 00:41:36,680 Anybody that gets caught, you 820 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,180 know, you're you're thinking differently. 821 00:41:40,207 --> 00:41:45,520 And, Angel, Angel knew she messed up. 822 00:41:46,030 --> 00:41:49,060 She turned to drinking heavy 823 00:41:49,420 --> 00:41:51,730 because Jake was no longer around. 824 00:41:52,870 --> 00:41:55,840 But she had a secret to tell him. 825 00:41:56,050 --> 00:41:56,900 And you know, when you're 826 00:41:57,100 --> 00:41:58,990 fighting those demons, you gotta, 827 00:41:59,020 --> 00:42:00,520 you turn to something. 828 00:42:02,230 --> 00:42:07,690 So Angel turned to alcohol, and she turned back to the life 829 00:42:07,890 --> 00:42:09,670 that she had with Kim. 830 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:15,460 All the while still showing up Monday through Friday as a full 831 00:42:15,660 --> 00:42:17,590 time third grade school teacher. 832 00:42:17,890 --> 00:42:18,770 It's amazing. 833 00:42:18,970 --> 00:42:20,530 She held it together. 834 00:42:20,590 --> 00:42:24,280 She pretty much became a functional alcoholic. 835 00:42:25,060 --> 00:42:29,087 She was perfectly fine at work. 836 00:42:29,410 --> 00:42:33,610 Then she'd come home and drinking every day, pretty much 837 00:42:33,810 --> 00:42:34,990 drinking herself to sleep. 838 00:42:36,130 --> 00:42:39,890 This is where Angel's dark side really began to show. 839 00:42:40,090 --> 00:42:44,560 And, you know, once again, I don't think Kim helped out, but 840 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,900 Kim had her business partner back. 841 00:42:47,500 --> 00:42:54,040 Now that Angel has a real drinking problem, some of the 842 00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:57,460 shows that they booked don't go as planned. 843 00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:01,660 Angel isn't at the top of her game. 844 00:43:02,260 --> 00:43:07,390 Angel told me about an argument that her and Kim got into while 845 00:43:07,590 --> 00:43:10,300 they were out of town, and it was pretty big. 846 00:43:10,500 --> 00:43:10,910 It blew up. 847 00:43:11,110 --> 00:43:16,545 Kim was not happy at all with Angel's behavior, who she's 848 00:43:16,745 --> 00:43:22,180 become, and, uh, you know, she came to a point in her life 849 00:43:22,380 --> 00:43:28,010 where she had to choose between Kim and Jake. 850 00:43:28,210 --> 00:43:32,350 And at this point in time in her life, she wasn't happy with 851 00:43:32,550 --> 00:43:33,430 either of them. 852 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,440 This was probably the first time in Angel's life where 853 00:43:38,590 --> 00:43:42,110 things aren't going the way she expected. 854 00:43:42,310 --> 00:43:46,150 Maybe she felt like she was losing control, like like, I 855 00:43:46,350 --> 00:43:51,910 don't know, she had to pick one because obviously 856 00:43:53,260 --> 00:44:00,160 the weight of both lifestyles were taking a toll on her, so 857 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:01,300 she had to choose. 858 00:44:04,300 --> 00:44:07,200 This is a part of the story that 859 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,300 shit just doesn't make sense. 860 00:44:11,140 --> 00:44:14,920 Based off of what the detectives say, 861 00:44:16,310 --> 00:44:18,020 this is what went down. 862 00:44:18,410 --> 00:44:23,120 Angel, Kim and a group of people decide to go to a 863 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,580 concert and Jake is invited. 864 00:44:26,420 --> 00:44:28,315 The environment is great. 865 00:44:28,515 --> 00:44:30,410 The energy is just flowing. 866 00:44:32,690 --> 00:44:34,560 Angel decides to invite 867 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,460 everybody over to her parents place. 868 00:44:37,490 --> 00:44:43,100 Everybody leaves the concert venue and they head over to 869 00:44:43,300 --> 00:44:45,350 Angel's parents place. 870 00:44:45,550 --> 00:44:47,600 And this place is massive. 871 00:44:47,780 --> 00:44:49,230 The drinks and the fun 872 00:44:49,430 --> 00:44:53,270 continues and the detectives say. 873 00:44:54,350 --> 00:44:58,100 Angel decides to drug everybody's drink, 874 00:44:59,570 --> 00:45:01,190 including her own. 875 00:45:04,550 --> 00:45:05,750 At some point, 876 00:45:07,430 --> 00:45:10,200 one of the guests recorded 877 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,830 Angel and Jake having a conversation, 878 00:45:14,780 --> 00:45:19,430 and then, based off of what the detectives say, 879 00:45:21,380 --> 00:45:22,910 Angel went on a killing spree. 880 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,280 You know, when I say this doesn't make sense, you have to 881 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:53,630 look at it this way. 882 00:45:53,900 --> 00:45:57,620 Apparently, they found the first body somewhere, just a 883 00:45:57,820 --> 00:45:59,910 little bit before midnight, and 884 00:46:00,110 --> 00:46:02,930 then scattered across all these acres. 885 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:07,040 The last body is found the following day, and then, you 886 00:46:07,240 --> 00:46:08,390 know, you have all this talk 887 00:46:08,590 --> 00:46:10,380 how possibly, 888 00:46:10,580 --> 00:46:12,820 and, you know, I let's just get this straight. 889 00:46:13,020 --> 00:46:15,060 I have nothing against the police force, okay? 890 00:46:15,260 --> 00:46:18,835 I like to work with them on trying to solve some of these 891 00:46:19,035 --> 00:46:23,197 details, but there's rumors that maybe something in the 892 00:46:23,397 --> 00:46:27,560 investigation process was not done exactly correctly. 893 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,780 So something was mishandled. 894 00:46:30,260 --> 00:46:32,870 Um, you know, you got these people over here who don't like 895 00:46:33,070 --> 00:46:33,210 these people. 896 00:46:33,410 --> 00:46:36,110 You got these people over here who don't like these people. 897 00:46:36,310 --> 00:46:39,200 But yet, where's the professionality in all of this? 898 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:48,590 Yo, man what's up? 899 00:46:49,590 --> 00:46:50,870 No way. 900 00:46:51,070 --> 00:46:52,350 You got it? 901 00:46:53,250 --> 00:46:56,633 Oh, seriously, dude that's awesome. 902 00:46:57,060 --> 00:46:58,290 Yeah. Get it to me. 903 00:46:58,320 --> 00:46:59,460 Send it in a Dropbox file. 904 00:46:59,660 --> 00:47:00,450 I'll wait for it. 905 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,460 You are the best. 906 00:47:02,660 --> 00:47:03,420 Thank you. 907 00:47:05,420 --> 00:47:10,490 Ah. You know, I have, um, a colleague that I work with that 908 00:47:10,690 --> 00:47:13,940 ran across a video that Angel posted on Facebook. 909 00:47:14,780 --> 00:47:16,670 Um, here's the thing, though. 910 00:47:16,870 --> 00:47:17,640 It disappeared. 911 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:23,570 So why would she post something afterwards and then all of a 912 00:47:23,770 --> 00:47:24,800 sudden remove it? 913 00:47:25,310 --> 00:47:26,870 Uh, what gives, sweetheart? 914 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:32,180 But you know something I got to tell you, just because you 915 00:47:32,380 --> 00:47:35,300 posted on the internet and delete it doesn't mean it 916 00:47:35,500 --> 00:47:36,860 doesn't exist somewhere. 917 00:47:37,370 --> 00:47:39,110 So 918 00:47:40,340 --> 00:47:43,070 I managed to get a hold of that video. 919 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,580 Now, you all remember Detective Bird, right? 920 00:47:46,970 --> 00:47:49,730 He's actually going to come back in the studio with me for 921 00:47:49,930 --> 00:47:51,080 his second interview. 922 00:47:51,650 --> 00:47:53,310 And here's the cool thing. 923 00:47:53,510 --> 00:47:57,560 I'm extremely excited about this because my understanding 924 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,110 is he doesn't know this video exists. 925 00:48:00,310 --> 00:48:01,550 He's never seen it. 926 00:48:01,670 --> 00:48:06,470 So yours truly is going to show it to him. 927 00:48:07,070 --> 00:48:10,045 I'm Detective Bird with the Phoenix Police Department, and 928 00:48:10,245 --> 00:48:13,220 as the lead investigator of the Angel case, I'm here to tell 929 00:48:13,420 --> 00:48:15,570 you something stinks. 930 00:48:15,770 --> 00:48:17,070 There's something wrong here. 931 00:48:17,270 --> 00:48:21,050 It was such a horrific experience coming across those 932 00:48:21,250 --> 00:48:23,420 bodies the way I stumbled upon it. 933 00:48:23,620 --> 00:48:26,165 But I kicked it in high gear. 934 00:48:26,365 --> 00:48:28,710 I was I was went into cop mode. 935 00:48:28,910 --> 00:48:33,950 I immediately contacted supervisors, uh, crisis team, 936 00:48:34,150 --> 00:48:35,460 the CSI. 937 00:48:35,660 --> 00:48:38,510 I got Ahold of everyone, did everything by the book. 938 00:48:40,490 --> 00:48:45,740 The part that makes me sad is the way I came across not one 939 00:48:45,940 --> 00:48:47,390 body, not two bodies. 940 00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:49,740 It just didn't stop. 941 00:48:49,940 --> 00:48:51,720 Just when I start to get my head around it. 942 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:56,960 And keep in mind, this is at night, 11:30 at night as I 943 00:48:57,410 --> 00:48:59,540 literally stumble on this body. 944 00:49:00,060 --> 00:49:01,770 I can't see very well. 945 00:49:01,860 --> 00:49:03,035 No one can. 946 00:49:03,235 --> 00:49:04,410 And they're 947 00:49:05,490 --> 00:49:08,280 in what little moonlight we had was this, 948 00:49:10,170 --> 00:49:12,810 this human being that was once alive and is now dead. 949 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,800 Now, as bad as that is, you realize, oh my God, there could 950 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:17,970 be a bad guy around here. 951 00:49:18,170 --> 00:49:18,520 Something going on? 952 00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:19,840 So you start walking around 953 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,160 knowing you have to secure the scene. 954 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,540 That's when all the calls came out and I got everyone rolling. 955 00:49:24,740 --> 00:49:25,785 But I still had to look around, 956 00:49:25,985 --> 00:49:26,830 make sure I didn't have a killer. 957 00:49:27,030 --> 00:49:30,540 And instead of finding a killer, I find another body and 958 00:49:30,740 --> 00:49:32,280 another body and another body. 959 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,560 It just did not stop. 960 00:49:34,650 --> 00:49:37,890 It didn't stop until the next afternoon. 961 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:43,830 Everybody that was at that party on her parents' property 962 00:49:44,580 --> 00:49:45,870 is no longer here. 963 00:49:47,300 --> 00:49:48,680 Jake is gone, 964 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,330 Kim is gone, 965 00:49:50,690 --> 00:49:52,250 and eight other people. 966 00:49:54,450 --> 00:49:57,750 When the cops arrived on the scene that night. 967 00:49:59,590 --> 00:50:01,600 They found their first body around 968 00:50:02,650 --> 00:50:03,910 11:38. 969 00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:09,110 They found the last body. 970 00:50:10,900 --> 00:50:15,040 Late the next afternoon, almost around 4 p.m.. 971 00:50:15,690 --> 00:50:17,640 Now here's the strange thing. 972 00:50:19,620 --> 00:50:23,070 There was never a 911 call that was placed 973 00:50:24,540 --> 00:50:26,225 to emergency dispatchers. 974 00:50:26,425 --> 00:50:28,110 The police just showed up. 975 00:50:29,310 --> 00:50:31,540 And what they found, 976 00:50:33,730 --> 00:50:34,960 was horrific. 977 00:50:35,170 --> 00:50:41,260 One cop described it as the worst crime scene he's ever 978 00:50:41,460 --> 00:50:43,810 seen in his 26 years of law enforcement. 979 00:50:44,340 --> 00:50:47,580 There were 4 to 5 different murder weapons. 980 00:50:49,190 --> 00:50:51,236 And Angel, 981 00:50:51,900 --> 00:50:53,970 was the only person that lived. 982 00:50:55,670 --> 00:50:57,027 The person I knew, 983 00:50:57,227 --> 00:51:00,372 there's no way in hell she could have killed all those people. 984 00:51:00,830 --> 00:51:05,810 One of the bodies was so badly dismembered, 985 00:51:08,010 --> 00:51:10,660 that she actually detached the 986 00:51:10,860 --> 00:51:12,660 dude's, like, face from his skull. 987 00:51:15,610 --> 00:51:18,940 Parts of the skull was still like, how? 988 00:51:19,150 --> 00:51:24,003 How could a woman who's 5'7", 135 pounds, 989 00:51:24,590 --> 00:51:25,230 do that? 990 00:51:25,430 --> 00:51:27,230 And what does she do that with? 991 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,160 There were bodies in the house. 992 00:51:30,610 --> 00:51:33,220 There were bodies on the side of the house. 993 00:51:33,970 --> 00:51:36,940 There was bodies down by the little manmade lake. 994 00:51:37,768 --> 00:51:40,030 There was blood everywhere. 995 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,480 You know, I had to actually, 996 00:51:44,020 --> 00:51:44,900 take the stand. 997 00:51:45,100 --> 00:51:49,000 And I took the stand in defense of Angel. 998 00:51:50,630 --> 00:51:52,640 Here's why they thought I was involved. 999 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,370 One. She called me. 1000 00:51:54,570 --> 00:51:57,947 Two. the crime scene itself on that property, 1001 00:51:58,970 --> 00:52:00,980 there had to be an accomplice. 1002 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,560 But the DA could never prove it. 1003 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,660 Some of those murders that took place on that property. 1004 00:52:09,650 --> 00:52:13,250 I mean, they couldn't even place her in the location. 1005 00:52:13,970 --> 00:52:17,270 The blood on her was unreal. 1006 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,910 It was a scene, like, right out of a horror movie. 1007 00:52:21,530 --> 00:52:23,120 Bodies were everywhere. 1008 00:52:23,930 --> 00:52:28,130 And that property is almost two acres of land. 1009 00:52:28,790 --> 00:52:31,040 One of the bodies that was discovered. 1010 00:52:32,410 --> 00:52:37,660 There was no visible footprints or tire tracks around. 1011 00:52:38,140 --> 00:52:43,300 It's like something magically placed that body there because 1012 00:52:43,500 --> 00:52:47,590 she was the only one alive and nothing made sense. 1013 00:52:48,570 --> 00:52:50,310 They charged her with the crime. 1014 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,320 You know, the police department 1015 00:52:52,770 --> 00:52:54,780 really dropped the ball on this one. 1016 00:52:55,050 --> 00:52:56,880 They really fucked up. 1017 00:52:58,040 --> 00:52:59,871 And it's, 1018 00:53:00,620 --> 00:53:05,120 a big part of the reason why when she went to court, she was 1019 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:06,030 found not guilty. 1020 00:53:06,230 --> 00:53:09,200 There was too many bodies not to have enough evidence for 1021 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:09,450 this case. 1022 00:53:09,650 --> 00:53:13,790 So the whole idea that there could be a not guilty. 1023 00:53:13,990 --> 00:53:14,990 Are you kidding me? 1024 00:53:15,230 --> 00:53:18,950 When I came across Angel and the first thing she does is 1025 00:53:19,150 --> 00:53:20,160 make a phone call. 1026 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:25,100 Not to police, not to fire, not to ambulance, not to anyone 1027 00:53:25,300 --> 00:53:26,790 except her friend. 1028 00:53:26,990 --> 00:53:29,340 Now, how is that not suspicious? 1029 00:53:29,540 --> 00:53:33,380 How is that not worthy of a tight investigation? 1030 00:53:33,580 --> 00:53:33,810 It was. 1031 00:53:34,010 --> 00:53:35,780 It was worthy of a tight investigation. 1032 00:53:35,980 --> 00:53:37,070 We did a tight investigation. 1033 00:53:37,270 --> 00:53:38,010 We got enough evidence. 1034 00:53:38,210 --> 00:53:41,420 Circumstantial? Sure, but we had enough. 1035 00:53:41,620 --> 00:53:41,960 We. 1036 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:45,660 The jury should have convicted. 1037 00:53:45,860 --> 00:53:47,220 So what went wrong? 1038 00:53:47,990 --> 00:53:48,450 You tell me. 1039 00:53:48,650 --> 00:53:51,080 I don't know, because we did our job. 1040 00:53:53,410 --> 00:53:55,720 What bothers me about this case. 1041 00:53:57,370 --> 00:54:00,855 I can't sleep without thinking about all those lives, sitting 1042 00:54:01,055 --> 00:54:04,540 in trial, listening to loved ones talk about how important 1043 00:54:06,130 --> 00:54:08,410 that life was that they lost. 1044 00:54:12,050 --> 00:54:16,010 Not only is this a miscarriage of justice, but there's a 1045 00:54:16,210 --> 00:54:17,420 killer walking around. 1046 00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,440 You can give them a title investigative lead. 1047 00:54:21,470 --> 00:54:24,112 You can give a title witness, which is 1048 00:54:24,650 --> 00:54:25,670 crock of shit. 1049 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,470 Not only he's a suspect, he's a murderer. 1050 00:54:31,770 --> 00:54:32,975 He was involved. 1051 00:54:33,175 --> 00:54:34,380 Angel was involved. 1052 00:54:35,730 --> 00:54:37,770 I'll believe it till the day I die. 1053 00:54:38,460 --> 00:54:40,860 Throughout that entire court process. 1054 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,090 I mean, it was a complete shit show. 1055 00:54:47,180 --> 00:54:50,870 You know, I just want to know what exactly happened. 1056 00:54:52,340 --> 00:54:54,950 Because the one thing about this case is. 1057 00:54:57,090 --> 00:54:58,890 All these people died. 1058 00:54:58,980 --> 00:55:02,933 The person that committed these crimes, 1059 00:55:04,100 --> 00:55:05,030 still out there. 1060 00:55:05,690 --> 00:55:10,240 When you look at those crime scene photos and you look at 1061 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:14,990 the the sheer size of that property, and you got to keep 1062 00:55:15,190 --> 00:55:16,067 in mind. 1063 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,310 You're talking about two acres of land. 1064 00:55:18,670 --> 00:55:20,170 Intoxicated. 1065 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,820 We don't know exactly what happened on that property. 1066 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:28,840 But the police. 1067 00:55:29,610 --> 00:55:31,560 Tried to pin everything on her. 1068 00:55:32,130 --> 00:55:37,440 You know, the news had a field day with this because, um, 1069 00:55:38,130 --> 00:55:41,015 there's a few things about this 1070 00:55:41,215 --> 00:55:44,100 case that just are mind-boggling. 1071 00:55:44,130 --> 00:55:47,160 First, there's no 1072 00:55:48,140 --> 00:55:49,910 911 emergency call. 1073 00:55:50,660 --> 00:55:52,310 The police just showed up. 1074 00:55:54,240 --> 00:55:55,260 Second. 1075 00:55:57,470 --> 00:55:59,630 There's 4 to 5 different murder weapons. 1076 00:56:02,180 --> 00:56:03,960 Bodies stretched out over two 1077 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,220 acres of land and through investigation. 1078 00:56:08,260 --> 00:56:10,420 Where some of those bodies were placed. 1079 00:56:10,620 --> 00:56:12,590 The person that they say killed 1080 00:56:12,790 --> 00:56:15,880 everybody wasn't even in those locations. 1081 00:56:16,990 --> 00:56:18,760 You can't even place her there. 1082 00:56:19,850 --> 00:56:23,820 One of the people that was intoxicated and passed out on 1083 00:56:24,020 --> 00:56:29,810 the floor was later found down by the lake, and they verified 1084 00:56:30,010 --> 00:56:32,180 this through the carpet fibers 1085 00:56:32,270 --> 00:56:34,190 that was on the back of his shirt. 1086 00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:41,770 So he passed out drunk and was killed in his sleep and then 1087 00:56:41,970 --> 00:56:45,179 moved to another location, 1088 00:56:46,260 --> 00:56:47,520 on the property. 1089 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,130 No footsteps, 1090 00:56:51,330 --> 00:56:53,220 no tire marks, no nothing. 1091 00:56:53,250 --> 00:56:55,120 Sitting in trial every day. 1092 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,380 Hearing the testimony of the officers. 1093 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:00,720 Hearing Angel. 1094 00:57:02,300 --> 00:57:03,800 This investigative lead. 1095 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,490 I thought we were going to get a guilty verdict. 1096 00:57:08,690 --> 00:57:10,990 So when that verdict is handed 1097 00:57:11,190 --> 00:57:15,510 down as not guilty, I was shocked. 1098 00:57:15,710 --> 00:57:16,930 I mean, I was beyond shocked. 1099 00:57:17,130 --> 00:57:20,850 I was, you know, when you say shock, I mean literally shock 1100 00:57:21,050 --> 00:57:25,725 where I felt like blood pressure boiling, I got dizzy. 1101 00:57:25,925 --> 00:57:30,600 I was literally in physical shock at that verdict. 1102 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:32,760 That was the last thing I expected. 1103 00:57:33,510 --> 00:57:35,910 We just had too much evidence. 1104 00:57:36,110 --> 00:57:38,010 So what am I missing? 1105 00:57:38,210 --> 00:57:40,110 What, what went wrong? 1106 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:41,220 I, uh, 1107 00:57:42,420 --> 00:57:43,150 I don't want to say it's a 1108 00:57:43,350 --> 00:57:46,500 travesty of justice because a jury. 1109 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:52,740 I don't want to throw down that jury, but something, in my 1110 00:57:52,940 --> 00:57:54,300 opinion, stinks to high heaven. 1111 00:57:54,480 --> 00:58:00,450 Uh, all those days, listening to all that solid police work. 1112 00:58:01,020 --> 00:58:02,160 And for what? 1113 00:58:02,610 --> 00:58:03,720 Not guilty. 1114 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:05,690 I. 1115 00:58:07,100 --> 00:58:09,260 It's that one case for so many reasons. 1116 00:58:09,460 --> 00:58:10,850 It was injustice. 1117 00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,590 It was, um. 1118 00:58:14,770 --> 00:58:15,580 It was horrible. 1119 00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,050 Sorry. It was horrible. 1120 00:58:17,260 --> 00:58:18,860 Um. And I'm having a hard time 1121 00:58:19,060 --> 00:58:22,270 living with what I saw and that outcome. 1122 00:58:22,470 --> 00:58:23,530 But Jake's dead. 1123 00:58:24,220 --> 00:58:25,390 Kim is dead. 1124 00:58:26,230 --> 00:58:28,210 Everybody there died. 1125 00:58:31,150 --> 00:58:32,770 And nobody knows why. 1126 00:58:34,750 --> 00:58:37,890 Nobody knows, what happened? 1127 00:58:38,090 --> 00:58:41,450 I don't even think Angel truly knows what happened. 1128 00:58:41,750 --> 00:58:43,195 Keep in mind, she was. 1129 00:58:43,395 --> 00:58:44,840 She was drugged too. 1130 00:58:49,740 --> 00:58:52,020 We did the right thing to take this to trial. 1131 00:58:52,220 --> 00:58:54,630 We had a lot of circumstantial evidence. 1132 00:58:54,830 --> 00:58:55,780 And you can do a case. 1133 00:58:55,980 --> 00:58:58,050 You can convict on circumstantial evidence. 1134 00:58:58,250 --> 00:58:59,550 You just have a lot of it. 1135 00:58:59,700 --> 00:59:01,480 But we didn't have was direct evidence. 1136 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,620 Well, maybe because suspect was at the scene. 1137 00:59:04,820 --> 00:59:06,970 You think, um, that's. 1138 00:59:07,170 --> 00:59:09,240 That was my problem with this whole thing. 1139 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:09,910 It always has been. 1140 00:59:10,110 --> 00:59:13,320 My contention is this case should have been prosecutable. 1141 00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,450 This case should have been a conviction. 1142 00:59:15,650 --> 00:59:17,160 So where did it go wrong? 1143 00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:18,090 Who, 1144 00:59:19,980 --> 00:59:20,778 Who screwed up? 1145 00:59:20,978 --> 00:59:23,307 Or is there something more to this case? 1146 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:25,420 Is there something I don't know? 1147 00:59:25,620 --> 00:59:30,780 Because this this should have been a slam dunk in a sense 1148 00:59:30,980 --> 00:59:33,240 that we had so much circumstantial evidence. 1149 00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,100 Yeah, there wasn't direct evidence. 1150 00:59:35,300 --> 00:59:37,990 There wasn't, you know, DNA 1151 00:59:38,190 --> 00:59:39,700 that that, you know, smoking gun. 1152 00:59:39,900 --> 00:59:43,145 We didn't have the video showing who did the crime. 1153 00:59:43,345 --> 00:59:46,590 But you can convict on circumstantial and we didn't. 1154 00:59:47,750 --> 00:59:48,779 It fell apart. 1155 00:59:48,782 --> 00:59:52,207 And I think, well, I don't want to say I think 1156 00:59:53,900 --> 00:59:57,350 I hate to speculate, but really that's all I can do. 1157 00:59:57,500 --> 01:00:00,860 Somebody had their hands in this case and intentionally 1158 01:00:01,060 --> 01:00:02,090 hurt this case. 1159 01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:04,225 Again, that's just my thoughts. 1160 01:00:04,425 --> 01:00:05,810 I don't know, I really don't. 1161 01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,110 The DA tried to find an accomplice. 1162 01:00:11,180 --> 01:00:12,350 They never did. 1163 01:00:12,980 --> 01:00:14,690 So when the time came. 1164 01:00:15,300 --> 01:00:16,770 They indicted Angel 1165 01:00:18,180 --> 01:00:23,730 and her alone, knowing that it wasn't a solid case, and they 1166 01:00:23,930 --> 01:00:26,520 went to trial and Angel's life. 1167 01:00:27,180 --> 01:00:29,315 Unfortunately came to light. 1168 01:00:29,515 --> 01:00:31,450 That was probably the worst 1169 01:00:31,650 --> 01:00:34,500 thing about going to court for her. 1170 01:00:35,290 --> 01:00:39,610 Was having to tell the truth about her lifestyle because it 1171 01:00:39,810 --> 01:00:42,790 could have been one of her clients. 1172 01:00:43,090 --> 01:00:47,610 It could have been the client that Jake got in a fight with, 1173 01:00:47,810 --> 01:00:52,205 but she had to tell the truth about who she really was and 1174 01:00:52,405 --> 01:00:56,800 what she was doing, and it probably hurt her the most. 1175 01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:00,430 But in the end, she was found not guilty. 1176 01:01:01,210 --> 01:01:03,260 Uh, none of the evidence that 1177 01:01:03,460 --> 01:01:06,100 was stacked against her made sense. 1178 01:01:06,300 --> 01:01:07,060 None of it did. 1179 01:01:07,550 --> 01:01:11,330 You weren't going to find a jury that was going to convict 1180 01:01:11,530 --> 01:01:12,080 that girl. 1181 01:01:13,470 --> 01:01:14,850 Just none of it made sense. 1182 01:01:15,550 --> 01:01:20,410 You know, the verdict really surprised me, being that she 1183 01:01:20,610 --> 01:01:22,150 was the sole survivor. 1184 01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,780 You would think she would have been found guilty of this. 1185 01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:33,160 And for her to walk away, I mean, I don't know, it's 1186 01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,870 there's still a lot that doesn't make sense. 1187 01:01:36,070 --> 01:01:40,060 It's just it just doesn't make sense how she was able to walk 1188 01:01:40,260 --> 01:01:41,200 away from this. 1189 01:01:42,430 --> 01:01:47,530 I just can't see her causing that type of pain to not only 1190 01:01:47,730 --> 01:01:50,110 them, but their family members. 1191 01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,670 But I want to know what happened to my friend. 1192 01:01:53,270 --> 01:01:54,680 Did she just snap? 1193 01:01:54,710 --> 01:01:58,220 Did she try to tell Jake and he snapped? 1194 01:01:58,430 --> 01:02:04,640 Or did her client track her, become jealous and killed 1195 01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:06,110 everybody at the party? 1196 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,170 And here's the weird thing. 1197 01:02:08,370 --> 01:02:10,100 Nobody has heard from her. 1198 01:02:10,250 --> 01:02:12,445 I had expected to maybe hear from her. 1199 01:02:12,645 --> 01:02:14,840 I wanted to talk to her, I reached out. 1200 01:02:14,900 --> 01:02:16,700 I've got nothing. 1201 01:02:16,820 --> 01:02:19,520 I have no clue what her mental state is. 1202 01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:21,170 I don't know where she is. 1203 01:02:21,290 --> 01:02:25,010 Last I heard, she had moved out of the state. 1204 01:02:25,210 --> 01:02:26,840 But wherever she is. 1205 01:02:27,490 --> 01:02:29,500 You know the one thing about Angel? 1206 01:02:30,550 --> 01:02:33,340 She could change her appearance quick. 1207 01:02:33,730 --> 01:02:35,500 Almost like Carmen Sandiego. 1208 01:02:35,530 --> 01:02:37,470 You know, if she doesn't want 1209 01:02:37,670 --> 01:02:39,610 to be found, you won't find her. 1210 01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,640 You have to wonder, as the sole survivor. 1211 01:02:42,730 --> 01:02:46,960 If they found her not guilty of this, then, 1212 01:02:47,470 --> 01:02:48,650 what gives? 1213 01:02:48,850 --> 01:02:53,950 Who is supposed to be held responsible for what happened? 1214 01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:57,850 And in my mind, she was left there. 1215 01:02:58,050 --> 01:02:58,970 She survived. 1216 01:02:59,170 --> 01:03:01,570 She had to have known something. 1217 01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:03,920 So why can't we find her and talk to her? 1218 01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:07,480 Why has she not come forward to answer these questions? 1219 01:03:07,900 --> 01:03:11,320 Um, you know, I'm in the mind frame that she still has to 1220 01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,380 know what happened because she was there. 1221 01:03:15,490 --> 01:03:17,590 What the hell did you get yourself into? 1222 01:03:17,620 --> 01:03:19,420 And where the hell are you, Angel? 1223 01:03:20,020 --> 01:03:22,660 Really couple things that I would want to know is. 1224 01:03:23,450 --> 01:03:25,370 Why did you call me that night? 1225 01:03:26,370 --> 01:03:27,420 And two. 1226 01:03:27,750 --> 01:03:29,580 You know, if she knows. 1227 01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:30,300 Um. 1228 01:03:32,170 --> 01:03:33,530 You know what actually happened? 1229 01:03:33,730 --> 01:03:35,200 Because I know you're still out there. 1230 01:03:35,780 --> 01:03:37,610 You know, where exactly are, 1231 01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:38,400 nobody knows. 1232 01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,850 But. What actually happened that night. 1233 01:03:43,370 --> 01:03:46,100 There's a reason why this case is unsolved. 1234 01:03:46,130 --> 01:03:49,040 I think the DA needed to pin it on somebody. 1235 01:03:50,420 --> 01:03:51,710 And it didn't work. 1236 01:03:51,740 --> 01:03:54,860 The case was shaky and unstable from the start. 1237 01:03:55,060 --> 01:03:56,610 But most importantly, and like 1238 01:03:56,810 --> 01:03:58,700 I said, I believe she didn't do it. 1239 01:04:00,690 --> 01:04:05,640 The person or people that did do it are still out there 1240 01:04:07,020 --> 01:04:08,070 right now. 1241 01:04:08,580 --> 01:04:10,830 You know, I've thought about it. 1242 01:04:11,450 --> 01:04:13,220 She's the lone survivor. 1243 01:04:13,250 --> 01:04:14,390 What the hell? 1244 01:04:14,930 --> 01:04:16,800 It just doesn't make any sense. 1245 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,480 And then you have all these other weird elements and all 1246 01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:21,680 these things that I've, 1247 01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:23,030 I've heard about. 1248 01:04:23,990 --> 01:04:25,220 It's just. 1249 01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:29,900 Why? Why is she the only survivor? 1250 01:04:29,930 --> 01:04:31,260 Maybe she saw them. 1251 01:04:31,460 --> 01:04:34,580 Maybe she knows them, I don't know. 1252 01:04:35,550 --> 01:04:39,870 You know that athlete that Jake got in that confrontation with? 1253 01:04:40,021 --> 01:04:40,470 Um, 1254 01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:43,710 probably wanted revenge for some reason. 1255 01:04:43,910 --> 01:04:44,640 Who knows? 1256 01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:51,360 I mean, Angel would have to be the one to tell it, or a new 1257 01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:55,290 witness will come out, but nobody really knows. 1258 01:04:55,500 --> 01:05:00,090 All we know is Angel was the only person that survived. 1259 01:05:01,820 --> 01:05:03,980 And all those other people died as well. 1260 01:05:06,380 --> 01:05:08,750 They tried to pin it on Angel, but 1261 01:05:09,980 --> 01:05:13,490 no jury in their right mind was going to convict that girl 1262 01:05:14,060 --> 01:05:15,620 of all those crimes. 1263 01:05:16,220 --> 01:05:17,500 It's virtually impossible. 1264 01:05:17,700 --> 01:05:18,980 She would have had to. 1265 01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:23,910 Fly around that property and and kill everybody if she did 1266 01:05:24,110 --> 01:05:24,960 it by herself. 1267 01:05:25,500 --> 01:05:27,870 Because during the trial, you could tell that 1268 01:05:29,850 --> 01:05:32,767 she wasn't talking, fully. 1269 01:05:34,330 --> 01:05:39,220 And I think she experienced something that was unnatural. 1270 01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:40,450 I really do. 1271 01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:46,035 But, you know, if you ever need somebody to talk to, somebody 1272 01:05:46,235 --> 01:05:50,950 to hear your truth and what happened and what took place. 1273 01:05:52,650 --> 01:05:54,480 The state of Arizona. 1274 01:05:55,780 --> 01:05:58,930 The families and the people that lost loved ones. 1275 01:05:59,590 --> 01:06:04,030 They they deserve to know what happened. 1276 01:06:04,750 --> 01:06:05,170 Um. 1277 01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,830 And like I said, Angel is the only person that can tell us 1278 01:06:11,030 --> 01:06:12,690 exactly what happened 1279 01:06:14,580 --> 01:06:15,780 and nobody can find her. 1280 01:06:15,930 --> 01:06:16,860 So. 1281 01:06:20,570 --> 01:06:22,940 Like I said, there's a reason why this case. 1282 01:06:23,630 --> 01:06:27,170 Is still unsolved and is open. 1283 01:06:27,980 --> 01:06:32,830 And really seriously, you guys, the filmmakers, you know, I 1284 01:06:33,030 --> 01:06:37,880 hope you get those questions answered because the community 1285 01:06:37,970 --> 01:06:39,320 still ask. 1286 01:06:41,590 --> 01:06:45,400 What happened to Angel Adams and what happened that night on 1287 01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:46,300 that property? 1288 01:06:47,950 --> 01:06:50,560 It just does not make any damn sense. 1289 01:06:52,460 --> 01:06:53,900 And we want to know what happened. 1290 01:06:53,990 --> 01:06:58,700 So I keep coming across thoughts that there's something 1291 01:06:58,900 --> 01:07:00,560 else at play here, and I don't know what it is. 1292 01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:01,790 I'm not here to accuse anyone. 1293 01:07:01,990 --> 01:07:02,780 I'm not. 1294 01:07:03,020 --> 01:07:05,420 But something's not right. 1295 01:07:05,620 --> 01:07:06,515 Something is fishy. 1296 01:07:06,715 --> 01:07:07,610 Something there's. 1297 01:07:09,950 --> 01:07:12,260 Someone has a hand at this. 1298 01:07:12,500 --> 01:07:18,800 Because that case was investigated perfectly. 1299 01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:20,673 There was not 1300 01:07:21,410 --> 01:07:22,550 a mess up. 1301 01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:26,070 No, it was really well executed. 1302 01:07:26,270 --> 01:07:28,730 That investigation from beginning to end. 1303 01:07:28,930 --> 01:07:31,850 So what's at play here again? 1304 01:07:32,050 --> 01:07:34,820 I don't know, I don't. 1305 01:07:36,450 --> 01:07:38,400 Is there someone that has connections? 1306 01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:41,580 And again, I keep going back to one piece of information that 1307 01:07:41,780 --> 01:07:43,290 really makes no sense. 1308 01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:48,210 This guy that just gets a phone call comes down. 1309 01:07:49,140 --> 01:07:50,170 What's with that? 1310 01:07:50,370 --> 01:07:52,890 And how come you don't really hear his name? 1311 01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:56,340 How come there's so much information that we don't know 1312 01:07:56,540 --> 01:07:57,330 about him? 1313 01:07:58,730 --> 01:08:01,485 Is there a connection here? Does he have connections? 1314 01:08:01,490 --> 01:08:03,929 What's going on? I don't like it. 1315 01:08:05,870 --> 01:08:07,275 It bothers me. 1316 01:08:07,293 --> 01:08:09,410 Now, that's the part that makes me angry. 1317 01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:12,740 Maybe it's not meant for us to know what happened. 1318 01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,880 But it's it's unsettling knowing that 1319 01:08:22,770 --> 01:08:24,240 the killer is still out there. 1320 01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:29,870 Hello. 1321 01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:32,730 Oh. You do? 1322 01:08:33,630 --> 01:08:34,810 Okay. Um, yeah. 1323 01:08:35,010 --> 01:08:36,630 I would love to have that information. 1324 01:08:36,830 --> 01:08:37,300 Can you give me a second? 1325 01:08:37,500 --> 01:08:39,180 Let me find something to write it down with. 1326 01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:41,400 Sure, absolutely. 1327 01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:42,000 Hold on. 1328 01:08:45,130 --> 01:08:46,690 Okay. And what's that number? 1329 01:08:50,730 --> 01:08:52,770 Thank you very much, I appreciate it. 1330 01:08:53,460 --> 01:08:55,020 Yeah, absolutely. 1331 01:08:55,410 --> 01:08:57,060 Thank you so much. 1332 01:08:57,720 --> 01:08:58,915 All right. Goodbye. 1333 01:09:00,630 --> 01:09:01,650 Wow. 1334 01:13:38,540 --> 01:13:40,170 Ms. Adams was my favorite teacher. 1335 01:13:40,370 --> 01:13:42,020 I don't believe she could do a horrible thing. 1336 01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:47,280 She's a vile human. 1337 01:13:58,150 --> 01:14:01,287 Man they said she was out here slicing motherfuckers up like. 102792

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