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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,960 MUSIC: 'Twinz (Deep Cover 98)' by Big Pun feat. Fat Joe 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,960 MAN: Hey, hey, hey. Come on, come on! 5 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,960 CLAMOUR Roy! Roy! 6 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:40,320 GABRIEL CLARKE: Who started it? 7 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:42,960 I started it. 8 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,960 HE LAUGHS 9 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:49,160 For a decade, their clubs dominated English football... 10 00:00:49,160 --> 00:00:51,960 CLIVE TYLDESLEY: A captain's goal for Patrick Vieira! 11 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,960 ..in a brilliant, vicious Premier League rivalry 12 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,320 that's never been bettered. 13 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,480 Roy Keane! Who else? 14 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,960 Manchester United - Arsenal. Ferguson - Wenger. 15 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,960 Treble winners - Invincibles. 16 00:01:04,960 --> 00:01:08,000 They're the best teams in England, and they really do not get on. 17 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,960 And at the centre of it, setting the tone, 18 00:01:10,960 --> 00:01:15,960 doing whatever it took, an Irishman and a Frenchman. 19 00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:17,800 It's all starting to overheat. 20 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:18,960 Keane - Vieira. 21 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:20,480 Roy, Roy. I'll see you out there! 22 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:21,960 Shootin' your mouth off, you! 23 00:01:21,960 --> 00:01:23,800 Nothing more in here. Yes. 24 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:24,960 Understand? Yes. 25 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:25,960 Yes. Thank you. 26 00:01:25,960 --> 00:01:28,480 I had a lot of hatred for Arsenal 27 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:29,960 because I knew they were big rivals. 28 00:01:29,960 --> 00:01:32,960 I can't think of any other word... 29 00:01:32,960 --> 00:01:34,960 that springs to mind when I was getting ready 30 00:01:34,960 --> 00:01:36,960 to go to battle with Arsenal. 31 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:39,960 Absolute hatred was the word. 32 00:01:39,960 --> 00:01:40,960 When you finish the game, 33 00:01:40,960 --> 00:01:43,960 the first result you're gonna look at is what United did. 34 00:01:43,960 --> 00:01:46,960 If you want to win the league, you have to finish above United. 35 00:01:46,960 --> 00:01:48,960 It was simple as that. 36 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,960 On a Monday I would be... 37 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,960 Particularly the parts of my body which I'd had previous injuries, 38 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,960 whether it were my cruciate or my hip or previous knocks, 39 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,960 they would be aching me. 40 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,960 And I know just cos my body knew I was gonna be going into battle, 41 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:06,000 and it was almost getting ready to, listen... I'm gonna suffer. 42 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,800 Describe Patrick Vieira - the opponent. 43 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,960 Very, very, very, very, tough. 44 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:17,960 What was his biggest strength? 45 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,960 He was tough. HE CHUCKLES 46 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,960 Describe Roy Keane - the opponent. PATRICK LAUGHS 47 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:27,960 He's a winner. 48 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,960 He's a leader. 49 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,800 The biggest compliment I'd give Patrick is I knew I always had 50 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,320 to be at my very, very, very best against him. 51 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,960 I couldn't have an off day against him. 52 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,960 He's my favourite enemy. 53 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:42,320 I don't know if that makes sense for you? 54 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:46,960 But it did make sense for me because... I loved every... 55 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:48,960 ..aspect of his game. 56 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,960 What about the bad things? 57 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:52,960 The bad things? 58 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,320 He can lose his head. 59 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:55,960 He can forget about the game. 60 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,800 He can be reckless. He can... 61 00:02:58,800 --> 00:02:59,960 'He can be reckless.' 62 00:02:59,960 --> 00:03:01,960 All right, how are you? OK. 63 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,960 What was his biggest weakness? 64 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,960 I don't think he was as tough as me. 65 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:10,800 How do you make that judgement? 66 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:11,960 I just know. 67 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,960 From playing against him. 68 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:17,960 Did he intimidate you? 69 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,640 No. He excited me. 70 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,000 CROWD ROARS 71 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,960 TYLDESLEY: Arsenal, Manchester United, has got personal now. 72 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,960 When you play against teams like Arsenal, 73 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,960 there's usually one or two players you might like, 74 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:42,960 but I don't remember liking anybody at Arsenal. 75 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:43,960 PATRICK LAUGHS No, I have to say. 76 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:45,960 I used to build myself up to... 77 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,960 to have that hatred... 78 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,960 and get my body psyched up cos I knew I had to be 79 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,960 at my kind of angriest to be at my best in a sense against Arsenal. 80 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:55,960 I never felt like that against any other team, 81 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:57,960 but Arsenal brought out something different in me. 82 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,960 You get used to beat any team... Yeah. 83 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:03,960 ..to win everything 84 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,960 and maybe you guys don't get used to get that challenge. 85 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:08,960 But, of course, you had Liverpool before. 86 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,960 But maybe the Arsenal before this kind of foreign players came in... 87 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,960 Maybe so. There was maybe something... 88 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,000 maybe new, maybe you had something that you don't like 89 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,960 about the foreigners come in, and... bring something different. 90 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,960 I think it was strange enough 91 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,960 that usually when there's rivalry between clubs, 92 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:25,960 there's some mutual respect amongst the managers 93 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:27,960 and they almost play it down a little bit, 94 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,160 but nobody was taking the heat out of it, do you not think? 95 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,960 It was the media were loving it. The media loving it. 96 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:33,960 The media loving it. 97 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,960 I think the managers were almost enjoying it cos I never... 98 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,960 I never remember the manager ever saying to me, 99 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:40,960 listen, relax before the Arsenal game, 100 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,960 or... erm... kind of chill out a bit. 101 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,960 It was like, they were kind of quite happy for us 102 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,960 to get our backs up a little bit even before we started. 103 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,960 And when you look at our... 104 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,960 what was your strength and what was my strength, 105 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,960 I think is quite similar. 106 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,960 If one of us take advantage of the other ones, 107 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,800 we may have more chance to win the game. 108 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:00,960 Absolutely. I knew that before the game. 109 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,960 If I was over you, we may have more chance of winning the game 110 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,960 because I know how you was important. 111 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,960 Every time we played, you thought there's gonna be fireworks. 112 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:11,960 You didn't know what to expect. Of course. 113 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:12,960 You didn't know what to expect. 114 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:14,960 CROWD NOISE 115 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:18,160 When I first came through, 116 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,960 obviously, I was up against Paul Gascoigne, Bryan Robson, 117 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,960 and you always have to establish yourself. 118 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,160 It took me three or four years, 119 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:25,960 then I was up against the David Battys, 120 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:26,960 the Rob Lees, the Gary Speeds... 121 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,960 And then you were coming along and I'm thinking, obviously, 122 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,960 there's this new young kid on the scene, 123 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,960 it's almost my job is to try and keep you down there. 124 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:36,960 That was an important role for me that I didn't feel 125 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,960 you were gonna get the edge on me because I needed... 126 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,960 I needed to dominate... even the players at Man United. 127 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,960 My own midfielders. So if you were beating me 128 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,800 in these rivalries, these battles in the middle of the park, 129 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,960 I think would have... It would have cost me long-term, 130 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:51,960 so I had to try and keep you... 131 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,960 quiet, which is obviously difficult. But that's... 132 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,960 But that's why I think we are similar. 133 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,960 That's why I think we... We make it. 134 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,000 Look at us... There we are. Maybe we should... 135 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,960 See, this one? Can you get close to this one? 136 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,960 You should get close to that one here. 137 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,000 Look. 138 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,960 What age are you there? A long time ago. 139 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,960 17. 16? No, I was... 140 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,960 18. 17, 18. I was in Cannes. 141 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,960 What did you have as a young pro 142 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,960 that other talented players didn't have? 143 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:20,960 Heart. 144 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:23,960 'The dream was to be a footballer. 145 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,960 'I had no other dreams about anything else. 146 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,960 'I left school with no real education, which is a big regret.' 147 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,960 When I got the trial at Forest, I just... 148 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:32,960 I knew I wouldn't be coming back. 149 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,640 I can do sacrifice, and I can work really hard, 150 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,960 because I wanted to make it, I wanted to be successful, 151 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,960 and I was not gonna give up. 152 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,960 I had massive desire and determination. 153 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:45,960 A ridiculous amount of hunger. 154 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:50,320 I was proud of my roots, but I also wanted to get away from my area. 155 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,160 I wanted to go and achieve something. 156 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,960 What was your greatest moment at Arsenal? 157 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,960 Greatest moment? Erm... 158 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,960 First year we won the double, '98. 159 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,960 The commitment of the players, 160 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,960 the love that the fans showing to the people, 161 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,960 the atmosphere in the stadium. 162 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,640 This is where I realised I was, er... 163 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,960 I was in a really special place. 164 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,960 What was your one greatest moment at United? 165 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,960 I think signing for them. 166 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,960 Getting an opportunity to play for Man United was absolutely fantastic. 167 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,800 Absolutely. 168 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,320 I'd had three great years at Forest and, erm... 169 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:42,800 No, going to United was brilliant. A dream come true, I suppose. 170 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,960 What is the one proudest moment of your career? 171 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:46,960 When, erm... 172 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,480 Arsene decided I was going to be the captain 173 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,960 when Tony Adams wasn't there any more. 174 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,640 I suppose winning the treble with United was a good achievement, 175 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,640 a great achievement, really, 176 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,960 in fairness to a really good bunch of players. 177 00:07:59,960 --> 00:08:03,960 What's the first quality a great captain has to have? 178 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:06,960 Leadership. 179 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:10,960 Try and be the best player. 180 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:12,960 Who was the best manager you played for? 181 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:16,960 Arsene Wenger. 182 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,960 Who's the best manager you played for? 183 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:21,960 Erm... 184 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,960 Without a doubt... 185 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:24,960 Brian Clough. 186 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,000 Not Sir Alex? 187 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,480 You asked me the question, I answered you. 188 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:38,800 CROWD ROARS 189 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,960 PETER DRURY: Giggs! Oh, fantastic! 190 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,960 HE PUFFS It was like the end of the world. 191 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,960 I never felt for one second I was... 192 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,960 ..more important than the manager. Absolute... nonsense. 193 00:08:53,960 --> 00:09:00,960 MUSIC: 'Still D.R.E.' by Dr Dre feat. Snoop Dogg 194 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,960 Which was the best United team you played? 195 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,960 The one that won the treble. 196 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:18,960 I think with Yorke and Andy Cole up front. 197 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,960 Beckham on the right, Giggs on the left, 198 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,320 Keane and Scholes in the middle. 199 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,000 That was, for me, the best United team. 200 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:32,960 An epic FA Cup tie triggered United's run to history. 201 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,960 PETER DRURY: It's Beckham! CROWD ROARS 202 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,640 Fabulous goal! Bergkamp's hit one! 203 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,960 Magnificent equaliser for Arsenal! 204 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,960 Keane went diving in... 205 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,960 and is sent off. 206 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,160 Tackle by Philip Neville... A penalty. 207 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:52,640 CROWD JEERING 208 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:53,960 Oh, what a save! 209 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:55,960 CROWD ROARS 210 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,640 Unbelievable! 211 00:09:59,960 --> 00:10:01,960 Oh, Vieira, straight into the path of Ryan Giggs 212 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,800 who has Yorke ahead of him and Scholes alongside. 213 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:05,960 But he's run away from Vieira. 214 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,960 It's Ryan Giggs wriggling into the penalty area. 215 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,960 Giggs! Oh, fantastic! 216 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,000 What a goal! 217 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,960 You probably still think about the pass to Giggsy. 218 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,960 Why do you have to start there? No, well, I have to... 219 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,160 We'll have to go on to my sending-off. 220 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,960 I still can't understand why no Arsenal player fouled him 221 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:26,960 when he was running... 222 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,960 40, 50 yards to score a goal. 223 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:31,960 I know people go on about your mistake, 224 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,960 but when you lose a ball on the halfway line, 225 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,800 you shouldn't worry too much when you're up against ten men. 226 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,960 If it was somebody else with the ball, 227 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,000 I don't think he will go that fast, 228 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,160 and to go until the end to score the goal. 229 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,960 If it was like on the Beckham side or anybody else's side, 230 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,960 it would not be as agile... But it's amazing nobody fouled him. 231 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,960 Yeah, yeah. It's amazing. 232 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:52,960 It was... It was bad defending from all of us. 233 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,960 I would have just absolutely took him out. 234 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:55,960 Absolutely. Yeah. 235 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,960 Cos you got to have... To me, what your team didn't do that night, 236 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,320 particularly - smell that danger. 237 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,160 You must know that a player like Giggsy 238 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,960 has it in his locker to go past people. Yeah... 239 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:05,960 I think it was United's moment. 240 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,960 Absolutely. If you played the game again ten times, 241 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,960 I believe we would win it nine times. 242 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,960 The way that we lost, especially when you was sent off, 243 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:15,960 and it was you being sent off, it wasn't somebody else... 244 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:17,960 Not that I deserved to be sent off. 245 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,480 I think the referee was a bit harsh on me again that night, but... 246 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:21,960 For once, for United, it was tough. 247 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,960 For once, the referee was hard on United, so... 248 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,960 When you lose your leader, you can be a little more weak. 249 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,960 And when we had the penalty, for me, it was game over. 250 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:36,640 We felt like we gave the game away because it was in our hand. 251 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,640 Do you think about that pass? You think about it? 252 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:39,960 Of course. Yeah. 253 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,960 Even if I don't think about it, I've seen so many... 254 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,960 United fans who will talk to me about it. 255 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,480 Giggs! Oh, fantastic! CROWD ROARS 256 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,960 What a goal! 257 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,960 HE PUFFS It was like the end of the world. 258 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:58,960 But I think history has to be like United has to go and win the treble. 259 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,960 A week after overcoming Arsenal, 260 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,960 those treble chance odds had widened again. 261 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,000 In Italy, Juventus were two goals in front 262 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,960 and smoothly on course for the Champions League Final. 263 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,160 Then... 264 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,960 TYLDESLEY: In towards Keane! 265 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,960 Roy Keane with a captain's goal for Manchester United! 266 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,960 Eight minutes later, 267 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,960 the skipper overstretched to reach an under-hit pass. 268 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,640 A flash of yellow meant suspension from any final. 269 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,960 In the very same stadium where Gazza shed semi-final tears, 270 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:37,960 Keane oozed defiance as United rolled onto victory. 271 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:39,960 REFEREE BLOWS WHISTLE 272 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,640 One night in Turin, 273 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,960 headlined for better and for worse by one man. 274 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:46,960 "Pounding every blade of grass, 275 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,960 "competing as if he would rather die of exhaustion than lose, 276 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:51,960 "he inspired all around him. 277 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:56,960 "I felt as if it were an honour to be associated with this player." 278 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,960 Sir Alex Ferguson on Roy Keane versus Juventus. 279 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:01,960 1999. He didn't... 280 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,960 He didn't put that in his last book, did he? No? No. 281 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:05,480 Not in the last one. OK. 282 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:06,960 The one before that. OK. 283 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,960 CROWD CHEERING 284 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,000 Stuff like that kind of almost insults me. 285 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,960 What am I supposed to do? 286 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:17,960 Give up? 287 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,960 Not cover every blade of grass? 288 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,960 Not do my best for my teammates? 289 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,960 Not do my best for my club? 290 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:25,960 Er... 291 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:27,960 To be honest, I actually get offended 292 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,960 when people throw quotes like that at me 293 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,960 as if I'm supposed to be, erm... honoured by it. 294 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,960 It's like praising the postman for delivering your letters. 295 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:36,960 He's supposed to, isn't he? That's his job. 296 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,640 My job is to try and win football matches for Man United. 297 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,960 On to Barcelona where the captain's resolve 298 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:44,480 was now part of the team's DNA. 299 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,960 Into Sheringham and Solskjaer has done it! 300 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,000 At the end, there was no John Terry kit change. 301 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,960 Keane kept his suit on and tried to smile. 302 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,480 Do you look at your Champions League Winner's medal? 303 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:00,800 I've eased off a bit. 304 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,800 At the time, I felt I didn't deserve it. 305 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:03,960 I have one. 306 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:05,960 Yeah, I think it was 13 games that year, 307 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:06,960 I played in 12 of them. 308 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,960 Maybe I do deserve it, I'm not sure. 309 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,960 My regret is the other finals we should have got to with Man Utd. 310 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:16,960 Domestically, his career spanned the greatest era at Old Trafford, 311 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,000 seven league titles in 12 years, all overseen by one manager 312 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:24,960 but more than 100 teammates received the benefit 313 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:26,960 of Keane's intense brand of insight. 314 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,960 OK, this is my all-time United 11. 315 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,000 The players I've played with. 316 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,960 Schmeichel, by far the best keeper. 317 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,960 Believe it or not, we actually didn't get on that well together. 318 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:42,960 PATRICK CHUCKLES You might be surprised to hear. 319 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,960 I'm not surprised at all, to be honest. 320 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:46,960 No, but... an absolute top, top goalkeeper. 321 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,960 Denis Irwin. Good at set pieces, 322 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:51,960 could defend, trained properly, good lad, 323 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,960 and he's an Irishman which always helps. 324 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:54,960 I've got Pallister for his size. 325 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:55,960 Even after two minutes, 326 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:57,960 he looked like he'd been playing for an hour. 327 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,000 Always looked tired. 328 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,960 Jaap - top centre half. Yeah, I remember. 329 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:02,960 Really... Jaap - tough guy, 330 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,960 you've obviously had a few run-ins with him. 331 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:06,960 Paul Parker, again, I played with Parks in his prime. 332 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:08,480 Top, top defender. 333 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,960 I was expecting to see Gary Neville over there. 334 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,640 Yeah. Yeah, Gary... On the right-hand side. 335 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,960 Gary would be a little bit unlucky, but he'd be on the bench. 336 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:17,960 I played with Incey again in his prime, 337 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,960 and people tend to forget how good Incey was. 338 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,960 Ronaldo again, a young player when he came to United. 339 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,000 A great attitude, scores you goals for fun. 340 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,960 I found it very hard to leave Becks out because of his work rate, 341 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,000 the amount of goals he gets, his assists, his set play delivery. 342 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,960 If I was gonna leave anybody out, 343 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:34,960 it would probably be myself for probably Scholesy. 344 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:36,960 In terms of finishers, Ruud was the guy. 345 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:38,320 He can score goals, yeah. Absolutely. 346 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,960 When I saw him go through one-on-one on with the goalkeeper, 347 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,800 I just knew it was a goal. And Eric, a big character again. 348 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:45,960 When he came to United, 349 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:47,960 United had threatened to win the league for many, many years. 350 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,960 They'd obviously won a few cups and Eric was just that difference. 351 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,960 If you're going into battle against Arsenal, 352 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:55,800 then you want people like Eric in your team. 353 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,960 This team, I felt they were all very good characters 354 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,480 cos this team could play... Strong, yeah. 355 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:01,960 Yeah, can play when teams wanted to play, 356 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,960 and if teams wanted to fight us, 357 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:04,960 they would fight with the best of them. 358 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,960 Patrick, which player that Roy hasn't selected 359 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,960 would you have selected? Scholes. 360 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:12,960 No doubt about it. 361 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:17,640 I think Scholes was, for me, the best... English player, 362 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:22,960 and one of the best United players that I played against. 363 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:23,960 He can do everything. 364 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:25,960 Roy... Can we change it? 365 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:27,960 BOTH LAUGH 366 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:29,480 The most decorated player 367 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,960 in Manchester United's history is not in that team. 368 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,480 A great career doesn't mean you're a great player. 369 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,000 I think there's a big difference, and I'm not saying Giggsy wasn't... 370 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,960 Do I leave Ronaldo out? 371 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:41,960 One of the world's greatest players? 372 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,480 Do I leave Becks out? 373 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,960 I just couldn't feel like I could leave Becks out. 374 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,960 There is one common denominator, some fans might see 375 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,960 to some of the selections. 376 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:51,960 Stam... 377 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,960 ..Beckham... Keane... Ince... Van Nistelrooy. 378 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,960 Took on the manager. You don't win league titles 379 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,160 by having choirboys in your dressing room. 380 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,960 All these boys did challenge the manager in different ways. 381 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,160 Becks challenged him, but because if you marry a certain woman, 382 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,960 does that mean you're challenging the manager? Far from it. 383 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,000 I think the manager's got to understand that and say, listen, 384 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,960 we've got different personalities in our dressing room, 385 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,960 but maybe that's why we're winning trophies. 386 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:20,000 It's tough making a decision, by the way. 387 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,960 It's really tough to make a decision. 388 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,960 Yeah, absolutely. 389 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,320 Maybe that's why I'm not a manager. BOTH LAUGH 390 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:36,000 CROWD JEERING 391 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,960 WENGER: 'You had two competitive animals 392 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,320 'who are ready to do anything to win. 393 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,960 'It was an extension of the rivalry of the club and the managers. 394 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,960 'These two guys were a symbol of that.' 395 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:55,960 What was Arsene Wenger's one biggest strength? 396 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,000 Trust. He trusts his players. 397 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:03,960 He will try to make you make the right decision by yourself. 398 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,960 Not him telling you what he expects or what he wants you to do. 399 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,000 If he has a weakness, what is it? 400 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,960 That can be a weakness as well 401 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,960 because sometimes as a player, you needed... 402 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,960 a good kick in your arse. 403 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:23,960 If you had one word to describe Sir Alex Ferguson, what would it be? 404 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:26,960 HE EXHALES 405 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,480 Ruthless. 406 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,960 What's Sir Alex Ferguson's biggest strength? 407 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,960 I suppose he's ruthless. 408 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,320 What's Sir Alex Ferguson's biggest weakness? 409 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:57,960 Loyalty. 410 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,960 'Arsene just came from Japan 411 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,960 'and challenged Alex Ferguson in the press, 412 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,960 'in the field, building a strong team.' 413 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:12,960 United, Ferguson and Roy Keane was in a comfortable zone, 414 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,960 winning everything all the time. 415 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,160 Seeing these people come in and try to challenge them, 416 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,960 of course they didn't like it because when you win all the time, 417 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,960 why you want that to change? 418 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:23,960 The two words the manager - 419 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,000 and he spoke to me about it a number of times - 420 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,800 was control and power. That was how we worked. 421 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:29,960 I think we can clearly see that 422 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,320 because he's still striving for it now, 423 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,960 even though he's not the manager. 424 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,000 I don't think that will ever leave him. Erm... 425 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,960 I think there's a massive ego involved in that. 426 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,960 You have a power and control over people, 427 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,960 and then you try to have it even when you're not working with them. 428 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,160 Er... I suppose the biggest compliment I can give him 429 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:46,960 for all the games I played under him, 430 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,960 I always felt he got it right... 431 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,960 He always had a good feel for what the group needed, in the sense of... 432 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,000 it might be a team talk, erm... if a player stepped out of line. 433 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,320 He generally got it right. 434 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,960 When you're a captain, the type of character I was, 435 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,960 I would obviously push boundaries with certain people, 436 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,960 the coaching staff, to always want the best. 437 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,960 I think sometimes I got it wrong. Absolutely. 438 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,960 Sometimes maybe went overboard, but I think nine times out of ten, 439 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,960 I got it right, and I think that's not a bad average. 440 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,960 What went wrong, then? 441 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,960 What was it about the MUTV interview? 442 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:20,960 Nothing. That so upset... 443 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,960 Absolutely... What do you think it was? 444 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,960 I'm not sure. 445 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,960 FERGUSON: 'For one reason or another, 446 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,960 'he decided to go and criticise his teammates, and... 447 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,960 'I know most of you have not seen that video, 448 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,480 'but you couldn't release it. 449 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:34,960 'We couldn't release it.' 450 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,000 I did have to do a video with the club, it's in my contract, 451 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,960 where you analyse games. 452 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,960 And my game happened to be Middlesbrough 4-1. 453 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,960 I had an opportunity to watch this so-called programme 454 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,960 that apparently where I slagged everybody off, 455 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,960 and I spoke wages and... which was nonsense. 456 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:52,960 I said a few comments, to be fair. 457 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,480 About Darren Fletcher, about tackling, but... 458 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,000 ..almost tongue in cheek, really, about it. 459 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:00,960 But what was important for me, 460 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,960 that we managed to watch the DVD together, 461 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,960 the opportunity to say, look, any of you have a problem... 462 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,960 Cos a lot was getting through the media, exaggerated. 463 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,960 And that was important to me. 464 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,960 'For Roy, he overstepped his mark. Absolutely overstepped his mark, 465 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,960 'and there was no other thing we could do.' 466 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:18,000 Sir Alex Ferguson, in his new book, says that interview was a disgrace. 467 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,960 Well, he's wrong with that one. 468 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,960 Just cos Alex Ferguson says it, doesn't mean it's the truth. 469 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:23,960 He's absolutely wrong. 470 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,960 Really what would have helped everybody is if they just played... 471 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,960 the damn video! 472 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:29,960 He says in his book, 473 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,960 "Roy had reached the point where you were assuming managerial duties." 474 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,960 No, well, I'd been doing that for a number of years, 475 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,960 in the dressing room. 476 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,960 I think he actually appreciated that. 477 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,960 In private conversation with people, I always backed the manager, 478 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,960 even when beaten, I would say the players need to do better. 479 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,960 I never felt for one second I was... 480 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,960 more important than the manager. Absolute... nonsense. 481 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,960 Come on, boys. 482 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,960 Come on, Wazza. Use your head. 483 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,960 'People think I was ranting and raving every day 484 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,640 'at my time at Man United. 485 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,960 'I certainly wouldn't have stayed that long.' 486 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:03,960 I wouldn't have been captain 487 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,960 and we wouldn't have won the trophies we won. 488 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,960 Generally, the players I was shouting at 489 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,960 were the ones I cared about. 490 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,960 Of one confrontation, Sir Alex says in his book, 491 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,640 "His eyes started to narrow almost to wee black beads." No. 492 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,960 "It was frightening to watch." 493 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,960 Well, now, if you believe that... HE INHALES SHARPLY 494 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,640 ..you'll believe anything. 495 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,960 Fantastic! Fantastic! 496 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,960 Winning the title at Old Trafford, that would be history. 497 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,640 That will be there forever. 498 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,960 If you could do one thing again, what would it be? 499 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:41,960 Play in the World Cup. 500 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:51,960 MUSIC: 'Short Change Hero' by The Heavy 501 00:22:59,960 --> 00:23:01,960 Could your battle with Patrick determine 502 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,960 which way the match went? Absolutely. 503 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:04,960 A massive influence on it. Of course. 504 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,960 If I know I'm dominating Patrick, then I know the other players 505 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,960 will get a lift and certainly the supporters will get a lift. 506 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,960 And obviously that didn't always happen, 507 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,960 and the battles I felt I lost... 508 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,960 ..we generally lost them games. 509 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,320 What was your best performance against Roy? 510 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,960 I think when we won the title at Old Trafford 511 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,960 was a really big performance. 512 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,960 That was a good performance from Arsenal, from myself, 513 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,960 and a bad performance from Roy. HE LAUGHS GENTLY 514 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,800 Arsenal had won the FA Cup four days earlier. 515 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,960 A draw would clinch an historic third double, 516 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,640 but this was an opportunity to drive home their new dominance, 517 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,960 to make the enemy suffer. 518 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,960 TYLDESLEY: What a way to complete the double. 519 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,960 What a place to complete the double! 520 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:59,960 Winning the title at Old Trafford in your own house was... 521 00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:01,960 was something fantastic. 522 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,160 We talk about it all week. 523 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,960 We're going there not for a draw, for anything. 524 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,160 We are going there to win. 525 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,960 And I think the way we played... 526 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:15,000 It was a perfect game away from home because we defend really well, 527 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,000 and Wiltord scored the winning goal. 528 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,960 I always felt, even as a player, 529 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,320 when a team beat you or were the best team, 530 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:22,960 then you hold your hand up. 531 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,960 And I think we were always good at that at United, I think... 532 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,960 Listen, we battled, but if the team were the better team 533 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,960 throughout the season, you deserved it 534 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,960 cos you know what it's like to win the league, it's difficult. 535 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,640 We could say, OK, we're going there and what was important 536 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,960 was not to lose so we can win the title next week at home. 537 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,960 No. But we didn't think that way. 538 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,960 We wanted to win at Old Trafford 539 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,160 because of the rivalry between the two clubs. 540 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,960 And we say to ourselves it's gonna hurt them if we win it there. 541 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,960 We knew that if we... won the title there that would be history. 542 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,960 That will be there forever. 543 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,960 Fantastic! Fantastic! HE SCREAMS 544 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,960 He was a raw talent who became a club legend. 545 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,960 During his nine seasons in North London, 546 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,960 Arsenal evolved from their English roots, 547 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,960 but throughout, Patrick Vieira was a constant. 548 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,960 The rock of that success. 549 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:24,960 So, Roy, this is my, erm... all-time best 11. 550 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,480 We've, erm... David Seaman. 551 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,960 He was by far the best Arsenal goalkeeper that I played with. 552 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,960 When you look at this here in the back four, 553 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,960 Adams and Campbell, really strong. 554 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,960 On the left-hand side, it was really easy 555 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,960 because I believe that Ashley Cole at that time, 556 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,960 when he was at Arsenal, for me, 557 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,960 was the best left back in the country. 558 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,320 It's amazing to let him go to look back at it, isn't it? 559 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:48,960 I was... I was quite surprised, to be honest. 560 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,960 I tried to fight a little bit because I wanted him to stay. 561 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,640 Ashley's supposed to be the next Arsenal captain. Yeah. 562 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,960 Because he was there from the youth, he grew up through the club, 563 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,960 and to let him go was... I was really disappointed. 564 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,800 To such a big rival as well, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah. 565 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,960 On the right-hand side, we've... we've Lauren. 566 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,000 I think most of the people would be surprised. Yeah. 567 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,960 And they're gonna ask me why not Dixon? 568 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,960 Because I think Lauren, he was more comfortable on the ball. 569 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,640 When you look at the midfield four, 570 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,800 playing next to Emmanuel Petit who, for me, 571 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,960 was the best player I played with at Arsenal. 572 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,800 On the left-hand side, Pires, who, erm... 573 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,960 don't do a lot of work defensively when we don't have the ball. 574 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,960 Right. But going forward... 575 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,960 He makes up for it, yeah. He will create something. 576 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,480 That's why we gave him that freedom as well. 577 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,960 You do the minimum, but you make us win the games going forward. 578 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,160 Exactly, yeah. 579 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:46,960 And Ljunberg who, erm... was different than Robert. 580 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,960 Not really comfortable on the ball, with the ball at his feet, 581 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,960 but really clever making the run. 582 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:52,960 He can score goals. 583 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,960 Yeah, his record, I bet it must be pretty good. 584 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,960 He can score goals and up front we've Bergkamp and Henry. 585 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,960 I think Bergkamp was a big signing for Arsenal at the time, wasn't he? 586 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,960 I think, this is when he arrived... It sent a big message, I think. 587 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,960 This is where Arsenal changed a little bit the philosophy, 588 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,160 like the long-ball direct game completely changed. 589 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,960 Of course, Thierry because of the number of goals that he scored. 590 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,960 Even the one against United, do you remember? When, er... 591 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,960 The one he turned, yeah? At Highbury. 592 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:19,960 I'm not sure he meant that, but, go on... 593 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,960 PATRICK LAUGHS 594 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,800 CROWD ROARS 595 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,960 I think the strength of that team was the way we played football, 596 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,960 the way we can play for each other, but putting the ball on the floor, 597 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,960 the movement, how we can create something. 598 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,000 We have so many players with flair in the team. 599 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,960 The strength of United's team 600 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:48,960 is like Roy, based on character, and, erm... 601 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,160 quite strong mentally. Are you saying I couldn't play? 602 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,960 Yes. BOTH LAUGH 603 00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,960 You can win a game playing really bad. 604 00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:01,960 Yeah. Yeah, good point. 605 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,960 To win a game, we have to play well. 606 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,960 You've done a decent job, but... 607 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,800 Yeah, not too bad. We win the title. 608 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,160 How many? Just... Just one? 609 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,960 BOTH LAUGH 610 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,640 You have to win it six or seven times, that's the... No, no. 611 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,960 I wouldn't disagree with any of that. No, decent team. 612 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:25,960 CROWD CHEERING 613 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,960 What emotion did playing against Roy bring out in you? 614 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,960 If I play against him, I will be concentrating. 615 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,000 All the week. 616 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,480 So I would prepare myself in a different way maybe 617 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,960 because I still have this game in my mind 618 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,960 and I still have how to play against him in my mind. 619 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,960 CROWD CHEERING 620 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,960 A lot of my preparation would be fear, fear of losing, 621 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,320 fear of letting people down, 622 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,960 fear of letting my neighbourhood down, 623 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,960 fear of letting the family down. 624 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,320 Fear. Fear played a big part in my sporting career. 625 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:04,960 Which lasts longer? 626 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,960 The enjoyment at winning or the frustration at losing? 627 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,960 The enjoyment was very, very brief, I'm afraid. 628 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,960 Too brief. 629 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,960 Cos before you know it, you're going into another game 630 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,480 and the fear creeps back in and that... 631 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,960 again, not wanting to let anybody down. 632 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,960 PRESS: Roy. Any regrets at all, Roy? 633 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,960 HE SPEAKS FRENCH 634 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,640 Any comment, Roy? 635 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,960 What does France represent to you? 636 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,960 This is a country who gave me everything, I would say. 637 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,960 What does Ireland represent to you? 638 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,960 Frustration. 639 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,960 It was the summer of '98. 640 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,960 BRIAN MOORE: That's there! And it's Zidane! 641 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,800 And Patrick Vieira was just 22. 642 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,960 France was going through a difficult... 643 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,960 ..time of the identity. 644 00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:01,000 'And winning the World Cup showed what was France.' 645 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,960 We had Zidane was from Algeria and... 646 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,960 French. You had Desailly, 647 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,640 you had Djorkaeff, you have myself, you have Thuram. 648 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,480 It was a symbol. 649 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,800 Vieira playing it in again for Petit! 650 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,960 And it's another one! CROWD ROARS 651 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,960 How often do you think about that achievement? 652 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,480 Winning the World Cup? 653 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,960 All the time. HE LAUGHS 654 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:27,960 Of course, all the time. 655 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,800 That is one of my proudest moments in my life. 656 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,960 Can you imagine what it must have taken for Roy to leave a World Cup? 657 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,960 HE LAUGHS GENTLY 658 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,960 Erm... 659 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:45,960 No. 660 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,960 It was the summer of 2002, 661 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,320 and Roy Keane should have been captaining Ireland 662 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,960 at the World Cup Finals. 663 00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,960 REPORTER: Roy Keane has been sent home after a row 664 00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:00,960 with manager Mick McCarthy. 665 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,960 REPORTER: Roy Keane was quoted as saying, 666 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,960 "He had absolutely no regrets about the row." 667 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,960 REPORTER: The manager had no option but to send him home. 668 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,480 Just a few minutes ago, Roy Keane walked out of his house 669 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,160 with his dog and he's now gone into the countryside for a jog. 670 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:17,960 If you could do one thing again, what would it be? 671 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,960 Play in the World Cup. 672 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,960 It would have been nice to play. 673 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,960 I think a lot of people were disappointed, 674 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:26,960 particularly my family. 675 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,960 CAMERA SHUTTERS SNAPPING 676 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,640 Mick did say to me that, "Well, if you don't respect me, 677 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,000 "then how can you play for me?" 678 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,960 And what I should have said was I wasn't playing for him, 679 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,960 I was playing for my country, but... Yeah, it had obviously gone then. 680 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,960 FERGUSON: I didn't want him to go to the World Cup 681 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,960 because he needed an operation. 682 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,960 But he was determined to play for Ireland and... 683 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,960 go there and win it because that's the kind of man he is. 684 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,960 I just felt we needed a change our attitude a little bit, 685 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,640 that we at least prepare as well as the Germans and the Brazilians. 686 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:01,960 Why not prepare as well as them? 687 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,960 You know, people always thought I was looking for perfection. 688 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:05,960 Far from it. 689 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,960 But what I was looking for was progress. 690 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,960 PRESS MURMUR 691 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,800 Roy Keane is now making the decisions with Ireland. 692 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,960 In November 2013, his country appointed him 693 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,960 their new Assistant Manager. 694 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,960 We've had a lovely few days, the hotel's been lovely. 695 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,000 We've had footballs. It's been great, bibs, everything. 696 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,960 It's been... major progress. 697 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,960 GENTLE LAUGHTER 698 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,000 Shock was an understatement. I thought it was disgraceful. 699 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,960 The biggest regret would be my incident with Neil Ruddock. 700 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,960 It wasn't the image I wanted to give to people. 701 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,960 Many times I went on the football pitch to hurt players, 702 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,960 that was my job, but I never went out to injure a player. 703 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:59,960 MUSIC: 'Shook Ones (Part II)' by Mobb Deep 704 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,960 What sort of culture did you walk into when you walked into Arsenal? 705 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,960 The majority of the players was English, 706 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,960 but through the months, through the years, 707 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,960 I find players who really love the club. 708 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:27,000 Arsenal was really important. Arsenal was part of their blood. 709 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,960 From day one, I knew United was the club for me. 710 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,640 From the first minute. 711 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,960 They kind of stood for everything I stood for, 712 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,000 and that's trying to be the best, improving all the time, 713 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,960 trying to win for the supporters. 714 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,960 And it suited me. I think it suited... 715 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,960 Man United just sat right with me. 716 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,960 Which was the best Arsenal team you played in? 717 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,960 Whoa, whoa, whoa. 718 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,960 Which season? 719 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,960 It's gonna be really difficult for a season 720 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,960 because I started with some fantastic players 721 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,160 and I finished with some unbelievable players. 722 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,480 If you had to pick one? 723 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:01,960 The unbeaten team. 724 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,960 That... The Invincibles. 725 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,960 I don't like saying that bloody word but, erm... 726 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,960 they were pretty strong at the time. 727 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,960 That perfect season began explosively. 728 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,960 The clubs' mutual contempt culminated 729 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,800 in the notorious Battle Of Old Trafford. 730 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,640 TYLDESLEY: Vieira's off! 731 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,960 Ooh, he's not happy with Van Nistelrooy! 732 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,960 Oh! Would you believe it! CROWD ROARS 733 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,960 This is getting out of hand. 734 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,960 We haven't heard the last of this. 735 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,960 I don't think that was one of the most... 736 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,960 No, I don't... .. proudest moment for Arsenal... 737 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:41,960 Right, right, right. 738 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,960 ..how we behaved on the pitch at that day. 739 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,960 The referee lost it a little bit during the game. 740 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,960 That's not the excuse because you should never react like that. 741 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,000 But there was a lot of tension, frustration 742 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,320 because when you play at Old Trafford... 743 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,960 you have decisions going on your way, 744 00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:58,960 and that's the way it is. 745 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,960 And the same down at Arsenal at home. 746 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,960 Yeah, but not as much as United. 747 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:03,960 No, no. No? 748 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,960 Definitely. Definitely. The same when you go to Arsenal. 749 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,480 No, if you... Referee's decisions, absolutely. 750 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:10,960 No, I think it's only natural. United... 751 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,320 Yeah, but United is different. I don't know. I don't know. 752 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,640 You feel like you play against a fantastic football club, 753 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,320 fantastic players, but... 754 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,960 every decision was on United's side. The big incidents went against you. 755 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,000 Yes, and that gives you a frustration. 756 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,800 But to run off to a player and start jumping in his face. 757 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,960 Yeah, but that was a bad reaction. Shocking. 758 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,960 That's an understatement. I thought it was disgraceful. 759 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,960 Imagine... I will not go that far. 760 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,960 But to be jumping in a player's face, you know? No... 761 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,960 You lose your head and you make a decision... 762 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,960 I don't remember too many players jumping 763 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,640 in other players' faces, I have to say. 764 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:42,960 Yeah, it was Van Nistelrooy. 765 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,640 If it was somebody else, it was because it was not gonna happen. 766 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:50,960 OK. He... contribute on my sending-off. 767 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,960 And that was, for me, difficult to accept. 768 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,640 You certainly didn't do too much wrong. I don't think... 769 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:56,960 I didn't do nothing wrong. 770 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,960 I don't think Ruud did too much wrong, to be honest with you, 771 00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:01,960 but I think the referee... Again, we are on about the pressure. 772 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:06,000 Yeah. We're on about the pressure for the players... the manager... 773 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,960 Can you imagine the officials? If you were a referee out there. 774 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,960 I know the top referees wanna ref the top games... 775 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,960 Would you have fancied United-Arsenal? 776 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,960 I'm not sure. Especially at Old Trafford. 777 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,480 Or obviously at Highbury. 778 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,960 But like I said, get frustrated all you want, 779 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,640 to be jumping in players' faces is unacceptable. 780 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,960 Four Arsenal players received bans totalling nine games. 781 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:33,960 The club were fined ยฃ175,000, it remains a record amount. 782 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,960 We have a responsibility as well as a player to help the referee. 783 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,160 And one of them is to behave properly. Yeah. 784 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:43,960 And I think Ruud or even Martin or myself, 785 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,160 we didn't help the referee that day. Lauren wasn't... exactly... 786 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,960 Yeah, you can mention Lauren and I can mention Giggs. Giggsy. 787 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,320 I can mention Roy Keane. 788 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:51,960 I was nowhere near that. 789 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,960 I was quite surprised you wasn't there. 790 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,480 I behaved myself that day and regret it! 791 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,640 BOTH LAUGH 792 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,640 Arsenal went on to win the Fair Play Award. 793 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,960 More significantly, that controversy fuelled their greatest ever season. 794 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,960 They were the first team in the modern era 795 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,640 to win the title without losing a match. 796 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,960 CROWD ROARS 797 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,000 Sir Alex Ferguson wanted to sign you, didn't he? 798 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,480 That was a good compliment. 799 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:19,960 Yeah. 800 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,960 Patrick Vieira signs for United. No. 801 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,960 No? No. 802 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,480 Never? Never. 803 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:27,960 Keane and Vieira? In the same midfield? 804 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,960 At Arsenal? 805 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,800 HE LAUGHS 806 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,000 OK, we try and pick the best team between the two of them? 807 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,960 Yeah? You happy with that? Yeah. Let's go, then. 808 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,320 We start with the goalkeepers. 809 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:45,960 David Seaman, top goalkeeper, 810 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,960 but I'd have Peter in there every day of the week. 811 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,960 I am gonna give you that one, the first one. Yeah. That was easy. 812 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,960 Right back? 813 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:54,960 To be honest, I quite like Lauren 814 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,960 because he's really good defensively, he liked to go forward. 815 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,960 I didn't like the guy that much, Lauren, 816 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,640 but I wouldn't hold it against you putting him in the team, 817 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:04,960 so, I'll give you that one. 818 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,960 You give me that one? We'll go with Lauren. 819 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:07,960 Left back? 820 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,960 I think that's gonna be a quick one as well. 821 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,960 Yeah, Denis, here we go. OK. 822 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,320 You'd have Cole over Denis Irwin? 823 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:15,960 Every day, I think. 824 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,960 We're looking after what the left back can bring to the team. Exactly. 825 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,480 Defensively and going forward. Exactly. 826 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,960 I believe that... BOTH LAUGH 827 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,960 We'll come back to that. Let's go with ones we've agreed on, 828 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,960 the keeper, the right back. Centre halves... 829 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,960 You can't have a team without Jaap Stam as a centre-half. 830 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,960 I give you that one. Stam, for me, was... unbelievable. 831 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,960 We'll go with this one. We'll go with this one. 832 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,960 OK. I'd be quite happy to give up... 833 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,640 give you maybe Tony Adams for his leadership skills, 834 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,960 and the fact that he could play, don't get me wrong. 835 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,960 He can play as well. Yeah, he can play. 836 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,960 Something obvious... 837 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,960 Ronaldo has to be part of... 838 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,960 Straight on with it? 839 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,960 Straight on with it. Right side or left side? 840 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,960 We'll go left. We can move him around anywhere. 841 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,960 If Denis Irwin's playing, he can get up outside him. 842 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,960 Yeah, yeah. PATRICK LAUGHS 843 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,160 You'd have to have Becks. Over Ljunberg? 844 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,960 Over Pires, I don't think so though. 845 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,800 You have Pires on the right instead of Beckham? 846 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:14,960 Jesus, Patrick. 847 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,960 Beckham, he will give you... goals... 848 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,960 and he's good on free kicks. 849 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:20,960 And he can run. And he can run. 850 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,480 He worked hard. He can play. 851 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,960 What you will need is somebody with a bit more flair, who can play. 852 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,960 I absolutely disagree with you, but... 853 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,480 we can't pick everybody. 854 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,960 I suppose it's very difficult to leave Henry out. 855 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,960 He was fantastic. No getting away from that. 856 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,960 As a modern striker, Henry can do everything. 857 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,960 He has to be in there. 858 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,960 Because he's... 859 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,960 The best striker in the last... Yeah. 860 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,640 ..20 years in the Premier League. 861 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,480 I want Ruud in the team. 862 00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,960 Because it's Henry, I'll go with Eric. 863 00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:01,960 But I can't leave Ruud. 864 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,960 I'm upset with that one. 865 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,960 Patrick, I'd put you in the team. 866 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,960 For the way you played, your presence, 867 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,800 actually scored a few goals, I think, along the way. 868 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:12,960 Especially against United. 869 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,960 Obviously, you were a big character for Arsenal. 870 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,960 You can pick the other midfielder, don't let me down. 871 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,960 BOTH LAUGH 872 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,960 No, no, no, no. You would be in my team, definitely. 873 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:22,960 Shall I put myself in, then? 874 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,960 Yeah, yeah, yeah. There we go. 875 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,960 I'll probably be sent off. 876 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,960 Can you imagine? You'll be sent off one week, 877 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,960 I'll be sent off the next week. 878 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,960 One last choice. 879 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,960 You'd have Denis Irwin in every day of the week. No. 880 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,960 Every day. No. 881 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,160 Never injured. Ashley is... 882 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,960 Never heard any off-the-field stuff. 883 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,480 Never on with the contracts. Ah... 884 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:44,960 All that comes into it. No, no. 885 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,960 All that comes into it. Does not come into it. 886 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,960 It's whoever gets there first. BOTH LAUGH 887 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,960 But I'd have Denis every day of the week. No chance. 888 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,960 Would Arsene Wenger have signed Roy Keane? 889 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:05,960 Erm... 890 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,960 That's a good question. HE LAUGHS 891 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,960 To be honest, football-wise, I would say yes, no doubt about it. 892 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:16,960 But there would be a big question about how Roy is... outside. 893 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,960 Yeah, that was a... That was a bad one. 894 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,960 I have to say, that was a bad day. I felt bad over that, definitely. 895 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,960 Do you think that intensity... 896 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,320 was your undoing? Er... With? 897 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,800 With Ireland and with United? Possibly so. 898 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,960 Nah, there's no doubt about it, but... 899 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:34,960 ..that's part of my DNA. 900 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,960 There's no point in saying I wish I'd stepped back from that and... 901 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,800 You have to get in the ring. 902 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,800 CROWD ROARS 903 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,480 TYLDESLEY: Roy Keane! Who else? 904 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,640 A captain's goal from Patrick Vieira. 905 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,960 They led and inspired. 906 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:53,960 Two winners with a shared weakness for losing it. 907 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:54,960 REFEREE BLOWS WHISTLE 908 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,960 Retaliation and retribution added up to 21 red cards between them. 909 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:02,960 A taxi to the dark side was never too far away. 910 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,000 What's the biggest regret of your career? 911 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,960 Probably snapping my cruciate at Leeds. 912 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,960 CROWD ROARS 913 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,960 A massive disappointment, obviously, to be out of the game for a year. 914 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,960 There's your pal. 915 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:25,960 My pal, yes. Ruddock. 916 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,960 You got sent off for that, didn't you? 917 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,160 Should I take a pen and shake... Did you? 918 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:33,960 The biggest regret, no doubt, would be my incident with Neil Ruddock. 919 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,960 Is that the one run-in you had with him, was it? 920 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,960 Yeah, that's the one, I spat on his face, 921 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,960 I think I'd be sent off, yeah. Yeah. 922 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,960 To go that low, it wasn't a good day. 923 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,960 It wasn't the image that I wanted to give to people. 924 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,960 Were you provoked? Yeah, but that's part of the game. 925 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:58,960 CROWD NOISE 926 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,960 Would you do anything differently 927 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,960 with the Haaland revenge... tackle? Erm... 928 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,480 HE EXHALES DEEPLY 929 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,960 No. 930 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,960 Many times I went on the football pitch to hurt players, absolutely, 931 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,960 that was my job. And players went out to hurt me. 932 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,960 But I never went out to injure a player. 933 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,960 And I've never said that in my career. 934 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,000 But I did go to hurt people because that was my job. 935 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,960 Haaland was one for shouting his mouth off. 936 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:26,960 But I had plenty of examples 937 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,960 where lads would try and give me stick. 938 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:29,960 Again, my Irish background, 939 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,960 the Irish gypsy, and a few players would throw that at me. 940 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,160 Stupid talk. In the heat of the moment. 941 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:36,640 CLAMOUR 942 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:37,960 KEANE: Fuckin' hell... INDISTINCT 943 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,960 GRAHAM POLL: Roy! Roy! 944 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,640 I'll fucking see you out there. I'll see you out there! 945 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:46,960 'Ey, 'ey, 'ey, Roy. Roy, Roy. 946 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,960 I'll see you out there. Shootin' your mouth off, you. 947 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,960 Every week, making out you're a nice guy. 948 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:51,960 Come on, Roy! Come on. 949 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,960 'Come on...' 950 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,960 Who started it? 951 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,320 I started it. 952 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,960 HE LAUGHS 953 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,960 I was cool, I was really calm, I was smiling at him, 954 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,960 and then he lost it. 955 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,960 Fucking picking on Gary Neville. I'll talk to him. 956 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:08,960 He can pick on one of us. 957 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,320 'As we were going out for the start, I'd forgotten my armband. 958 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:12,960 'When I came out, I heard all this...' 959 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,960 I think I'd seen you at the top of the tunnel, 960 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:15,960 probably having a go at Gary. 961 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,960 And maybe one or two others. 962 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,960 And what really annoyed me that night was, again, 963 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,000 whether I was right or wrong is that... 964 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,000 you were picking on Gary. You know? 965 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,960 I was looking at Nicky Butt, and I think Wes Brown, 966 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:28,960 and thinking, what are you... 967 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,960 You were almost picking on the weakest link. 968 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:32,960 So that's what got my back up. 969 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,960 That there was two or three of you ganging up on Gary, simple as that. 970 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,960 But where I wanted to make the point to him at that time was like 971 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,960 when we played at Old Trafford, he was like tackling, 972 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,960 was fouling Robert Pires, and was doing it on purpose. 973 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,960 And I said, "Listen, we're not at Old Trafford here. 974 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:46,960 "This is Highbury." 975 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:47,960 Were you as polite as that? 976 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:48,960 You know me. 977 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,960 OK. Yeah. OK. 978 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,960 So... PATRICK LAUGHS 979 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,320 So I said to him, "If... you touch Robert, 980 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,320 "I will come after you." Right. 981 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,000 So I was... with respect. Protecting one of your teammates. 982 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,960 Protecting the teammate, yeah. Putting a marker down. 983 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,960 Yeah, it's true. You wasn't there. You wasn't there. 984 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,960 I had to go back and get my armband, like I said. 985 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,480 I'd forgot it. You get involved with something you don't know. 986 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,160 I came at the end, but I still had to walk past you 987 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,160 to get down to the start of the tunnel, so... 988 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,960 You remember what you say to me, no? I... 989 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,960 "Excuse me, Patrick, don't be speaking 990 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:20,960 "to one of my teammates like that." 991 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,960 PATRICK LAUGHS 992 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,960 I don't quite remember. Erm... 993 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,800 I can't quite remember, I'm sure you're gonna remind me. 994 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,960 Yeah, of course I remember because I remember that. Fire away. 995 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,320 You said to me, "Yeah, just leave him alone. 996 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,960 "You pretend to be this kind of nice person, and that you're not. 997 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,960 "We will see on the pitch." 998 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,480 BOTH LAUGH Yeah, of course. 999 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,480 You lost it, and, er... 1000 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,960 And then when we started to come out of the tunnel, I quite liked it. 1001 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:49,960 Maybe so. So I was expecting you... 1002 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,960 ..to lose it with me on the pitch. I didn't, thank God. 1003 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:53,960 Nothing more in here. 1004 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:54,960 Guys! Thank you. 1005 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,960 As for what happened next... 1006 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,960 MAN: Let's go, leave it in here. 1007 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,960 There were no charges, no handshakes, 1008 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,000 and United won 4-2. 1009 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:07,960 It would be Keane and Vieira's last Premier League meeting. 1010 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,960 I wanted to stay at Arsenal, 1011 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,960 I wanted to finish my career at Arsenal. 1012 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,000 I was upset. Of course I was upset. 1013 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,960 And I did shed a few tears in my car outside the training ground 1014 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:24,960 for about two minutes. 1015 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:35,960 By May 2005, the Keane-Vieira cartel was coming to end. 1016 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,960 Jose Mourinho's Chelsea were Premier League champions. 1017 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,960 The FA Cup was the season's consolation prize. 1018 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,960 CROWD NOISE 1019 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,960 He didn't know it then, 1020 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,960 but this would be Roy Keane's last major occasion 1021 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:52,960 in a Manchester United shirt. 1022 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,480 TYLDESLEY: Vieira to win it. 1023 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:56,800 Yes! 1024 00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,960 He didn't know it then, but the game's decisive penalty 1025 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:05,800 would be Patrick Vieira's curtain call as an Arsenal player. 1026 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,960 How you won that game, I'll never know. 1027 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,960 Your last kick of a ball, obviously, winning the cup, 1028 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:14,960 no doubt a big thrill for you. 1029 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,960 But I do look back on that game and seeing how well United played. 1030 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,160 For us to hammer a team like Arsenal, 1031 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,960 in terms of possession and chances, very rarely happened. 1032 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,960 United was all over us. 1033 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,960 We accept that United was better than us on the day, 1034 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,160 so our job was not to concede a goal. 1035 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,960 But United with Ronaldo, Rooney, create chances 1036 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,960 and hit the bar and all the stuff like that. 1037 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:39,960 And, of course, with the luck, 1038 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,960 we went into the penalties and that was like... 1039 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,960 We all need a bit of luck. That was our day. 1040 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:45,960 Did you have an idea you might be leaving then? 1041 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:46,960 Was there any talk, no? 1042 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,960 No, I didn't have any idea that was the last game, 1043 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,960 and I wasn't thinking about leaving at all. 1044 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:57,480 The club really didn't fight or didn't really ask me to stay. 1045 00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,800 I wanted the club to say, "No. We don't want you to go, 1046 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,160 "I want you to stay," like they did before. 1047 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,960 Put it this way, when they accept the offer, that says enough. 1048 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,960 Of course. Yeah. So I knew that... 1049 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,000 it was time for me to go. 1050 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,960 Well, not a bad way to finish, was it? No. 1051 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,960 It's not a bad way, leaving Arsenal with the FA Cup. 1052 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,640 It was fantastic for me. 1053 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,320 It's better to be lucky than good, sometimes. 1054 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:18,960 Yeah, but that's part of the game. 1055 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,960 Yeah, of course. PATRICK LAUGHS 1056 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,960 I was really close, leaving to Madrid, the year before I left. 1057 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,960 The deal was done between the two clubs, 1058 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,960 so when it was the time for me to leave, 1059 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,960 erm... I change my mind because I... 1060 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,000 I wanted to stay at Arsenal. 1061 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,960 I wanted to finish my career at Arsenal. 1062 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,960 I didn't see any reason to leave. 1063 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,960 I don't know if it was lack of courage to go. Yeah. 1064 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,640 If I knew I was leaving the year after, 1065 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:49,960 I was going to Madrid. 1066 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,960 I wouldn't say I've got regrets about not going abroad. 1067 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,960 But I think it would have been a nice experience 1068 00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:56,960 to play for a different team. 1069 00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,960 When my contract ran out on a couple of occasions, 1070 00:48:59,960 --> 00:49:02,960 again, spoke to a few clubs, erm... 1071 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,960 Bayern Munich, Juventus, erm... 1072 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:07,960 And, yeah, I was very tempted, I have to say, 1073 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,960 but like yourself, maybe there was a bit of fear. 1074 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,960 Contracts were agreed, but I just never... 1075 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,960 never felt strong enough to say I'm gonna go for it because... Strong. 1076 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,160 ..I was very happy at United. 1077 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,960 Somebody who used to like me a few years ago. 1078 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,960 BOTH LAUGH 1079 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,960 Not any more. I'm sure deep inside he loves you. 1080 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,800 Four months after Arsenal's skipper was sold to Juventus, 1081 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,480 Manchester United's captain had left the club. 1082 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,960 REPORTER: Roy Keane has gone by mutual agreement. 1083 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,960 Following criticism of his teammates, 1084 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:44,960 Sir Alex Ferguson decided Roy Keane had to go. 1085 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:49,800 When you went into his office on November 18th, 2005, 1086 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,960 that Friday morning, did you expect him to say... 1087 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:53,960 "Time's up"? Yeah, no, 1088 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,960 I'd talked to my lawyer the night before. 1089 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,960 The manager said to me, "Listen, I think we've come to the end." 1090 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:00,960 I said, "You're right. We had." 1091 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,320 I'd obviously lost respect for him. 1092 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:03,480 He'd lost respect for me. 1093 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:04,960 Whatever had gone on in the few weeks... 1094 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,800 Alex Ferguson thanked me for my 11 and a half years at the club, 1095 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,000 I had to remind them I'd been there for 12 and a half. 1096 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,960 Erm... 1097 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:14,960 Again, I think that was all part of the game, you know. 1098 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,960 And I felt what would be best for Man United, 1099 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,960 if they felt I was some sort of loose cannon, shall we say, 1100 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:19,960 was to leave. 1101 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,960 What was your emotion walking out of that door? 1102 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:23,960 Erm... 1103 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,960 I kind of thought... I just knew that was business. 1104 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,960 Got my boots... drove out, and as I was driving out, 1105 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,960 obviously, players were coming into training. 1106 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,960 I think one or two of them thought what's going on here? 1107 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:40,960 Maybe I'm not well or something. 1108 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,960 Erm... Yeah. And drove back. 1109 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,960 Again, don't think I'm some sort of machine here, 1110 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,960 and I'm, you know... 1111 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,960 I was upset. Of course I was upset. 1112 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,960 And I did shed a few tears in my car 1113 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,480 outside the training ground for about two minutes. 1114 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,960 But also told myself I need to, you know, 1115 00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,960 I need to get on with my life now and get home and get on with it. 1116 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,960 Did Sir Alex time it right with you? 1117 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,800 In letting you go? Absolutely not. 1118 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:07,960 I walked out with nothing. 1119 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,960 I had no club lined up, and I was injured. 1120 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:11,960 I did had to remind David Gill that I got injured 1121 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,960 breaking my foot playing for Man United. 1122 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,960 Yet there they were saying, "Oh, you're injured again." 1123 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,960 Well... Huh! I was injured cos I was putting tackles in. 1124 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,480 FERGUSON: They paid up his whole contract. 1125 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,960 We gave him a testimonial the following season, 75,000. 1126 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:28,960 We did everything we could 1127 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,960 to honour the fact he was a great player for us. 1128 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,960 I could play for Man United easily another couple of years. 1129 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:35,960 In the middle of the park? 1130 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,960 He says you were starting to think like Peter Pan. 1131 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,160 Yeah, well, that's... Again, I... 1132 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,800 Having said that, people are entitled to opinion. 1133 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,960 What was key for any player when you get to 34, 35 1134 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,960 is stay surrounded by the top players. 1135 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,960 I'm not saying I would have dominated games, 1136 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:51,640 but could I have played for Man United? 1137 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:52,960 Look at my last game for Man United. 1138 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,480 It was at Liverpool, and I think I done OK that day. 1139 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,960 So this idea that I was getting frustrated 1140 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,960 that I wasn't allowed to get forward? 1141 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:02,960 I think I was the most relieved man around. 1142 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,960 He says you didn't like the John Magnier issue. 1143 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,800 I thought that was wrong, absolutely. 1144 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,960 It can't be good for the football club, can't be. 1145 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,960 If a manager of a football club is, you know, 1146 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,640 having legal trouble or taking legal action against major shareholders... 1147 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,960 If people don't think that was... 1148 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,960 had a negative effect on what was going on at the club, 1149 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,960 then they are living in cuckoo land. 1150 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,960 What did Sir Alex's recent book tell you about him? 1151 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,160 Mm... There was no surprises for me. 1152 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,960 I'd have been disappointed if he hadn't said what he said. 1153 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,960 REPORTER: Front left, please, Sir Alex! 1154 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,160 PRESS CLAMOUR 1155 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,960 The manager's obviously accused me of trying to manage Man United, 1156 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,960 you know, behind his back. But what I did do, I did... 1157 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:45,480 you know, I managed the dressing room. 1158 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,960 That was my job. I tried to look after the players, 1159 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,960 I tried to nail players who had stepped out of line, 1160 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:50,960 that was my job. 1161 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,960 How would you describe your relationship today? 1162 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,640 Absolutely non-existent. 1163 00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,480 Of course it is. Do you feel let down? 1164 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,960 Erm... No, no. 1165 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:02,960 No. 1166 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:03,960 Nothing... 1167 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,960 Nothing surprises me these days with, erm... with that man. 1168 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,960 CAMERA BEEPS SHUTTER SNAPS 1169 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:16,960 PATRICK CHUCKLES 1170 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,000 Arsenal haven't won a trophy 1171 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:23,640 since you lifted the FA Cup in 2005 on your final day in the shirt. 1172 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:24,960 Why? 1173 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,960 When you look at Arsenal, the way you play, 1174 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:28,480 they play fantastic football, 1175 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,960 but I think you need to win games playing badly, 1176 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,960 and I don't think Arsenal are capable of that at the moment. 1177 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,320 And maybe as well at the lack of leadership. 1178 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,960 They may not have a Tony Adams, they don't have a Martin Keown, 1179 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:41,960 they don't have a Sol Campbell. 1180 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:46,960 These kind of players who can be a leader on and off the field. 1181 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,960 What does Man United mean to you? 1182 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,960 Obviously, I felt raw after I left there, 1183 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,960 but I've eased off now a bit in terms of... 1184 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,960 any sort of bad feeling I had towards them. 1185 00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,960 Obviously, that helps that Ferguson's gone now. 1186 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,960 And I have a couple of season tickets now 1187 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,960 and I go and watch them with my son, you know, as much as we can, 1188 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,960 so, no, I have that warmth towards Man United again. 1189 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:08,960 And it did leave me for a year or two I have to say, 1190 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,960 which I feel bad saying because in my every minute of every hour 1191 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,960 of every day I spent at that football club, 1192 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:15,960 I have to say, I really enjoyed it. 1193 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,960 I feel very fortunate to have played for them. 1194 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,960 I think I've never seen you like that. 1195 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,960 Ah, you were stressing me out, man. 1196 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:26,960 That was Neville's fault again. Look at your eyes. 1197 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:28,960 I've never seen your eyes like that. It is, yeah. Look. 1198 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,960 That's assault, that is. I'm always defending myself. Yeah. 1199 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:36,960 You'd like to see it happening now with certain players. 1200 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:38,640 You don't see it. We don't see it. 1201 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:39,960 That's why I think the game changed. 1202 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,960 If I watched Arsenal-United, 1203 00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:43,960 yeah, they will still play really good football, 1204 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,960 but not this kind of excitement... 1205 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:47,960 But they're almost too nice to each other, aren't they? 1206 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:49,960 Yeah. Too much respect for each other. 1207 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:56,000 WENGER: 'A great rivalry gets the best out of the big competitors. 1208 00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:57,960 'People who can handle the pressure 1209 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,960 'and can raise their game when it's needed. 1210 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,960 'These are the great sportsmen. There were two of them.' 1211 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:12,960 How is it, Patrick, eh? Happy days. 1212 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:14,960 Happy days. Yes. Happy days. 1213 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,960 And who did win the war? 1214 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:18,960 Me, of course. HE LAUGHS 1215 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:20,960 I'm convinced I did. 1216 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,960 Patrick won a few battles, no doubt about it, 1217 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,960 and he was a very, very good opponent, 1218 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,960 but if I had to play Patrick... 1219 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,960 in ten games, I'm convinced I'd dominate him in about eight of them. 1220 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:42,960 I was asking myself about you, how you are outside the field? 1221 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,640 On the field, I knew how you was. 1222 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,960 But outside the field, I always had this kind of question mark. 1223 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,960 And I think we are quite similar. 1224 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,960 We could open and talk about everything and nothing. 1225 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:54,960 We have our own opinion, 1226 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,960 and our own view on different things. 1227 00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,960 But I'm not disappointed at all how you are as a person 1228 00:55:59,960 --> 00:56:02,960 because how you are as a person is the same way you are on the field. 1229 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,960 I really loved fighting against you 1230 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,960 because, of course, there's a mutual respect there 1231 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,160 for what you have accomplished as a player, as a captain, as a leader, 1232 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,960 and that's why when they asked me to do this, I said yes straightaway. 1233 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:18,960 I knew when I was playing against you, 1234 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:20,320 I had to be at my very, very best, 1235 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,960 and for that I appreciate it and I enjoyed our battles together. 1236 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,960 And more importantly now I meet you away from footballing 1237 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:27,960 and I still have that respect for you. 1238 00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,960 It was always a pleasure, and an honour playing against you. 1239 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,960 Thank you, Patrick. No problem. 1240 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,960 I think it's a weaker looking team then actually my United team, 1241 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:49,960 if I'm being honest with you. 1242 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,960 Like, Pires has no mind getting in there, do you not think? 1243 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:54,960 You think so? 1244 00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:58,960 Oh, Becks... I don't... 1245 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:00,960 Bergkamp has to be in the team. ROY CHUCKLES 1246 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:02,960 No, seriously. He's not made it. 1247 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,000 Bergkamp has to be in team. But he doesn't fly. 1248 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,960 What does that say about him? He doesn't fly, it doesn't matter. 1249 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,160 It does, you play a lot of your games away from home. 1250 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:12,960 I know, but... Pre-season tours. 1251 00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,960 Give him an injection and he will fly. 1252 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:16,800 An injection... PATRICK CHUCKLES 1253 00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,960 Pre-season tours, he can't make them. 1254 00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,960 No, I... You can't believe he isn't on the team, 1255 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:23,960 and I can't believe Ruud van Nistelrooy... 1256 00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:25,960 Ruud's record. 1257 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:27,960 He can score goals, yeah, I give you that. 1258 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:29,960 That's the hardest part of football - scoring goals. 1259 00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:31,960 I reckon his record must be up there... 1260 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,960 Is it not up there with Henry's for goals? 1261 00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:36,320 I don't think so. 1262 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,960 Subtitles by ITV SignPost 96035

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