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MAN: Hey, hey, hey. Come on, come on!

CLAMOUR Roy! Roy!

GABRIEL CLARKE: Who started it?

I started it.

HE LAUGHS

For a decade, their clubs dominated English football...

CLIVE TYLDESLEY: A captain's goal for Patrick Vieira!

..in a brilliant, vicious Premier League rivalry

that's never been bettered.

Roy Keane! Who else?

Manchester United - Arsenal. Ferguson - Wenger.

Treble winners - Invincibles.

They're the best teams in England, and they really do not get on.

And at the centre of it, setting the tone,

doing whatever it took, an Irishman and a Frenchman.

It's all starting to overheat.

Keane - Vieira.

Roy, Roy. I'll see you out there!

Shootin' your mouth off, you!

Nothing more in here. Yes.

Understand? Yes.

Yes. Thank you.

I had a lot of hatred for Arsenal

because I knew they were big rivals.

I can't think of any other word...

that springs to mind when I was getting ready

to go to battle with Arsenal.

Absolute hatred was the word.

When you finish the game,

the first result you're gonna look at is what United did.

If you want to win the league, you have to finish above United.

It was simple as that.

On a Monday I would be...

Particularly the parts of my body which I'd had previous injuries,

whether it were my cruciate or my hip or previous knocks,

they would be aching me.

And I know just cos my body knew I was gonna be going into battle,

and it was almost getting ready to, listen... I'm gonna suffer.

Describe Patrick Vieira - the opponent.

Very, very, very, very, tough.

What was his biggest strength?

He was tough. HE CHUCKLES

Describe Roy Keane - the opponent. PATRICK LAUGHS

He's a winner.

He's a leader.

The biggest compliment I'd give Patrick is I knew I always had

to be at my very, very, very best against him.

I couldn't have an off day against him.

He's my favourite enemy.

I don't know if that makes sense for you?

But it did make sense for me because... I loved every...

..aspect of his game.

What about the bad things?

The bad things?

He can lose his head.

He can forget about the game.

He can be reckless. He can...

'He can be reckless.'

All right, how are you? OK.

What was his biggest weakness?

I don't think he was as tough as me.

How do you make that judgement?

I just know.

From playing against him.

Did he intimidate you?

No. He excited me.

CROWD ROARS

TYLDESLEY: Arsenal, Manchester United, has got personal now.

When you play against teams like Arsenal,

there's usually one or two players you might like,

but I don't remember liking anybody at Arsenal.

PATRICK LAUGHS No, I have to say.

I used to build myself up to...

to have that hatred...

and get my body psyched up cos I knew I had to be

at my kind of angriest to be at my best in a sense against Arsenal.

I never felt like that against any other team,

but Arsenal brought out something different in me.

You get used to beat any team... Yeah.

..to win everything

and maybe you guys don't get used to get that challenge.

But, of course, you had Liverpool before.

But maybe the Arsenal before this kind of foreign players came in...

Maybe so. There was maybe something...

maybe new, maybe you had something that you don't like

about the foreigners come in, and... bring something different.

I think it was strange enough

that usually when there's rivalry between clubs,

there's some mutual respect amongst the managers

and they almost play it down a little bit,

but nobody was taking the heat out of it, do you not think?

It was the media were loving it. The media loving it.

The media loving it.

I think the managers were almost enjoying it cos I never...

I never remember the manager ever saying to me,

listen, relax before the Arsenal game,

or... erm... kind of chill out a bit.

It was like, they were kind of quite happy for us

to get our backs up a little bit even before we started.

And when you look at our...

what was your strength and what was my strength,

I think is quite similar.

If one of us take advantage of the other ones,

we may have more chance to win the game.

Absolutely. I knew that before the game.

If I was over you, we may have more chance of winning the game

because I know how you was important.

Every time we played, you thought there's gonna be fireworks.

You didn't know what to expect. Of course.

You didn't know what to expect.

CROWD NOISE

When I first came through,

obviously, I was up against Paul Gascoigne, Bryan Robson,

and you always have to establish yourself.

It took me three or four years,

then I was up against the David Battys,

the Rob Lees, the Gary Speeds...

And then you were coming along and I'm thinking, obviously,

there's this new young kid on the scene,

it's almost my job is to try and keep you down there.

That was an important role for me that I didn't feel

you were gonna get the edge on me because I needed...

I needed to dominate... even the players at Man United.

My own midfielders. So if you were beating me

in these rivalries, these battles in the middle of the park,

I think would have... It would have cost me long-term,

so I had to try and keep you...

quiet, which is obviously difficult. But that's...

But that's why I think we are similar.

That's why I think we... We make it.

Look at us... There we are. Maybe we should...

See, this one? Can you get close to this one?

You should get close to that one here.

Look.

What age are you there? A long time ago.

17. 16? No, I was...

18. 17, 18. I was in Cannes.

What did you have as a young pro

that other talented players didn't have?

Heart.

'The dream was to be a footballer.

'I had no other dreams about anything else.

'I left school with no real education, which is a big regret.'

When I got the trial at Forest, I just...

I knew I wouldn't be coming back.

I can do sacrifice, and I can work really hard,

because I wanted to make it, I wanted to be successful,

and I was not gonna give up.

I had massive desire and determination.

A ridiculous amount of hunger.

I was proud of my roots, but I also wanted to get away from my area.

I wanted to go and achieve something.

What was your greatest moment at Arsenal?

Greatest moment? Erm...

First year we won the double, '98.

The commitment of the players,

the love that the fans showing to the people,

the atmosphere in the stadium.

This is where I realised I was, er...

I was in a really special place.

What was your one greatest moment at United?

I think signing for them.

Getting an opportunity to play for Man United was absolutely fantastic.

Absolutely.

I'd had three great years at Forest and, erm...

No, going to United was brilliant. A dream come true, I suppose.

What is the one proudest moment of your career?

When, erm...

Arsene decided I was going to be the captain

when Tony Adams wasn't there any more.

I suppose winning the treble with United was a good achievement,

a great achievement, really,

in fairness to a really good bunch of players.

What's the first quality a great captain has to have?

Leadership.

Try and be the best player.

Who was the best manager you played for?

Arsene Wenger.

Who's the best manager you played for?

Erm...

Without a doubt...

Brian Clough.

Not Sir Alex?

You asked me the question, I answered you.

CROWD ROARS

PETER DRURY: Giggs! Oh, fantastic!

HE PUFFS It was like the end of the world.

I never felt for one second I was...

..more important than the manager. Absolute... nonsense.

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Which was the best United team you played?

The one that won the treble.

I think with Yorke and Andy Cole up front.

Beckham on the right, Giggs on the left,

Keane and Scholes in the middle.

That was, for me, the best United team.

An epic FA Cup tie triggered United's run to history.

PETER DRURY: It's Beckham! CROWD ROARS

Fabulous goal! Bergkamp's hit one!

Magnificent equaliser for Arsenal!

Keane went diving in...

and is sent off.

Tackle by Philip Neville... A penalty.

CROWD JEERING

Oh, what a save!

CROWD ROARS

Unbelievable!

Oh, Vieira, straight into the path of Ryan Giggs

who has Yorke ahead of him and Scholes alongside.

But he's run away from Vieira.

It's Ryan Giggs wriggling into the penalty area.

Giggs! Oh, fantastic!

What a goal!

You probably still think about the pass to Giggsy.

Why do you have to start there? No, well, I have to...

We'll have to go on to my sending-off.

I still can't understand why no Arsenal player fouled him

when he was running...

40, 50 yards to score a goal.

I know people go on about your mistake,

but when you lose a ball on the halfway line,

you shouldn't worry too much when you're up against ten men.

If it was somebody else with the ball,

I don't think he will go that fast,

and to go until the end to score the goal.

If it was like on the Beckham side or anybody else's side,

it would not be as agile... But it's amazing nobody fouled him.

Yeah, yeah. It's amazing.

It was... It was bad defending from all of us.

I would have just absolutely took him out.

Absolutely. Yeah.

Cos you got to have... To me, what your team didn't do that night,

particularly - smell that danger.

You must know that a player like Giggsy

has it in his locker to go past people. Yeah...

I think it was United's moment.

Absolutely. If you played the game again ten times,

I believe we would win it nine times.

The way that we lost, especially when you was sent off,

and it was you being sent off, it wasn't somebody else...

Not that I deserved to be sent off.

I think the referee was a bit harsh on me again that night, but...

For once, for United, it was tough.

For once, the referee was hard on United, so...

When you lose your leader, you can be a little more weak.

And when we had the penalty, for me, it was game over.

We felt like we gave the game away because it was in our hand.

Do you think about that pass? You think about it?

Of course. Yeah.

Even if I don't think about it, I've seen so many...

United fans who will talk to me about it.

Giggs! Oh, fantastic! CROWD ROARS

What a goal!

HE PUFFS It was like the end of the world.

But I think history has to be like United has to go and win the treble.

A week after overcoming Arsenal,

those treble chance odds had widened again.

In Italy, Juventus were two goals in front

and smoothly on course for the Champions League Final.

Then...

TYLDESLEY: In towards Keane!

Roy Keane with a captain's goal for Manchester United!

Eight minutes later,

the skipper overstretched to reach an under-hit pass.

A flash of yellow meant suspension from any final.

In the very same stadium where Gazza shed semi-final tears,

Keane oozed defiance as United rolled onto victory.

REFEREE BLOWS WHISTLE

One night in Turin,

headlined for better and for worse by one man.

"Pounding every blade of grass,

"competing as if he would rather die of exhaustion than lose,

"he inspired all around him.

"I felt as if it were an honour to be associated with this player."

Sir Alex Ferguson on Roy Keane versus Juventus.

1999. He didn't...

He didn't put that in his last book, did he? No? No.

Not in the last one. OK.

The one before that. OK.

CROWD CHEERING

Stuff like that kind of almost insults me.

What am I supposed to do?

Give up?

Not cover every blade of grass?

Not do my best for my teammates?

Not do my best for my club?

Er...

To be honest, I actually get offended

when people throw quotes like that at me

as if I'm supposed to be, erm... honoured by it.

It's like praising the postman for delivering your letters.

He's supposed to, isn't he? That's his job.

My job is to try and win football matches for Man United.

On to Barcelona where the captain's resolve

was now part of the team's DNA.

Into Sheringham and Solskjaer has done it!

At the end, there was no John Terry kit change.

Keane kept his suit on and tried to smile.

Do you look at your Champions League Winner's medal?

I've eased off a bit.

At the time, I felt I didn't deserve it.

I have one.

Yeah, I think it was 13 games that year,

I played in 12 of them.

Maybe I do deserve it, I'm not sure.

My regret is the other finals we should have got to with Man Utd.

Domestically, his career spanned the greatest era at Old Trafford,

seven league titles in 12 years, all overseen by one manager

but more than 100 teammates received the benefit

of Keane's intense brand of insight.

OK, this is my all-time United 11.

The players I've played with.

Schmeichel, by far the best keeper.

Believe it or not, we actually didn't get on that well together.

PATRICK CHUCKLES You might be surprised to hear.

I'm not surprised at all, to be honest.

No, but... an absolute top, top goalkeeper.

Denis Irwin. Good at set pieces,

could defend, trained properly, good lad,

and he's an Irishman which always helps.

I've got Pallister for his size.

Even after two minutes,

he looked like he'd been playing for an hour.

Always looked tired.

Jaap - top centre half. Yeah, I remember.

Really... Jaap - tough guy,

you've obviously had a few run-ins with him.

Paul Parker, again, I played with Parks in his prime.

Top, top defender.

I was expecting to see Gary Neville over there.

Yeah. Yeah, Gary... On the right-hand side.

Gary would be a little bit unlucky, but he'd be on the bench.

I played with Incey again in his prime,

and people tend to forget how good Incey was.

Ronaldo again, a young player when he came to United.

A great attitude, scores you goals for fun.

I found it very hard to leave Becks out because of his work rate,

the amount of goals he gets, his assists, his set play delivery.

If I was gonna leave anybody out,

it would probably be myself for probably Scholesy.

In terms of finishers, Ruud was the guy.

He can score goals, yeah. Absolutely.

When I saw him go through one-on-one on with the goalkeeper,

I just knew it was a goal. And Eric, a big character again.

When he came to United,

United had threatened to win the league for many, many years.

They'd obviously won a few cups and Eric was just that difference.

If you're going into battle against Arsenal,

then you want people like Eric in your team.

This team, I felt they were all very good characters

cos this team could play... Strong, yeah.

Yeah, can play when teams wanted to play,

and if teams wanted to fight us,

they would fight with the best of them.

Patrick, which player that Roy hasn't selected

would you have selected? Scholes.

No doubt about it.

I think Scholes was, for me, the best... English player,

and one of the best United players that I played against.

He can do everything.

Roy... Can we change it?

BOTH LAUGH

The most decorated player

in Manchester United's history is not in that team.

A great career doesn't mean you're a great player.

I think there's a big difference, and I'm not saying Giggsy wasn't...

Do I leave Ronaldo out?

One of the world's greatest players?

Do I leave Becks out?

I just couldn't feel like I could leave Becks out.

There is one common denominator, some fans might see

to some of the selections.

Stam...

..Beckham... Keane... Ince... Van Nistelrooy.

Took on the manager. You don't win league titles

by having choirboys in your dressing room.

All these boys did challenge the manager in different ways.

Becks challenged him, but because if you marry a certain woman,

does that mean you're challenging the manager? Far from it.

I think the manager's got to understand that and say, listen,

we've got different personalities in our dressing room,

but maybe that's why we're winning trophies.

It's tough making a decision, by the way.

It's really tough to make a decision.

Yeah, absolutely.

Maybe that's why I'm not a manager. BOTH LAUGH

CROWD JEERING

WENGER: 'You had two competitive animals

'who are ready to do anything to win.

'It was an extension of the rivalry of the club and the managers.

'These two guys were a symbol of that.'

What was Arsene Wenger's one biggest strength?

Trust. He trusts his players.

He will try to make you make the right decision by yourself.

Not him telling you what he expects or what he wants you to do.

If he has a weakness, what is it?

That can be a weakness as well

because sometimes as a player, you needed...

a good kick in your arse.

If you had one word to describe Sir Alex Ferguson, what would it be?

HE EXHALES

Ruthless.

What's Sir Alex Ferguson's biggest strength?

I suppose he's ruthless.

What's Sir Alex Ferguson's biggest weakness?

Loyalty.

'Arsene just came from Japan

'and challenged Alex Ferguson in the press,

'in the field, building a strong team.'

United, Ferguson and Roy Keane was in a comfortable zone,

winning everything all the time.

Seeing these people come in and try to challenge them,

of course they didn't like it because when you win all the time,

why you want that to change?

The two words the manager -

and he spoke to me about it a number of times -

was control and power. That was how we worked.

I think we can clearly see that

because he's still striving for it now,

even though he's not the manager.

I don't think that will ever leave him. Erm...

I think there's a massive ego involved in that.

You have a power and control over people,

and then you try to have it even when you're not working with them.

Er... I suppose the biggest compliment I can give him

for all the games I played under him,

I always felt he got it right...

He always had a good feel for what the group needed, in the sense of...

it might be a team talk, erm... if a player stepped out of line.

He generally got it right.

When you're a captain, the type of character I was,

I would obviously push boundaries with certain people,

the coaching staff, to always want the best.

I think sometimes I got it wrong. Absolutely.

Sometimes maybe went overboard, but I think nine times out of ten,

I got it right, and I think that's not a bad average.

What went wrong, then?

What was it about the MUTV interview?

Nothing. That so upset...

Absolutely... What do you think it was?

I'm not sure.

FERGUSON: 'For one reason or another,

'he decided to go and criticise his teammates, and...

'I know most of you have not seen that video,

'but you couldn't release it.

'We couldn't release it.'

I did have to do a video with the club, it's in my contract,

where you analyse games.

And my game happened to be Middlesbrough 4-1.

I had an opportunity to watch this so-called programme

that apparently where I slagged everybody off,

and I spoke wages and... which was nonsense.

I said a few comments, to be fair.

About Darren Fletcher, about tackling, but...

..almost tongue in cheek, really, about it.

But what was important for me,

that we managed to watch the DVD together,

the opportunity to say, look, any of you have a problem...

Cos a lot was getting through the media, exaggerated.

And that was important to me.

'For Roy, he overstepped his mark. Absolutely overstepped his mark,

'and there was no other thing we could do.'

Sir Alex Ferguson, in his new book, says that interview was a disgrace.

Well, he's wrong with that one.

Just cos Alex Ferguson says it, doesn't mean it's the truth.

He's absolutely wrong.

Really what would have helped everybody is if they just played...

the damn video!

He says in his book,

"Roy had reached the point where you were assuming managerial duties."

No, well, I'd been doing that for a number of years,

in the dressing room.

I think he actually appreciated that.

In private conversation with people, I always backed the manager,

even when beaten, I would say the players need to do better.

I never felt for one second I was...

more important than the manager. Absolute... nonsense.

Come on, boys.

Come on, Wazza. Use your head.

'People think I was ranting and raving every day

'at my time at Man United.

'I certainly wouldn't have stayed that long.'

I wouldn't have been captain

and we wouldn't have won the trophies we won.

Generally, the players I was shouting at

were the ones I cared about.

Of one confrontation, Sir Alex says in his book,

"His eyes started to narrow almost to wee black beads." No.

"It was frightening to watch."

Well, now, if you believe that... HE INHALES SHARPLY

..you'll believe anything.

Fantastic! Fantastic!

Winning the title at Old Trafford, that would be history.

That will be there forever.

If you could do one thing again, what would it be?

Play in the World Cup.

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Could your battle with Patrick determine

which way the match went? Absolutely.

A massive influence on it. Of course.

If I know I'm dominating Patrick, then I know the other players

will get a lift and certainly the supporters will get a lift.

And obviously that didn't always happen,

and the battles I felt I lost...

..we generally lost them games.

What was your best performance against Roy?

I think when we won the title at Old Trafford

was a really big performance.

That was a good performance from Arsenal, from myself,

and a bad performance from Roy. HE LAUGHS GENTLY

Arsenal had won the FA Cup four days earlier.

A draw would clinch an historic third double,

but this was an opportunity to drive home their new dominance,

to make the enemy suffer.

TYLDESLEY: What a way to complete the double.

What a place to complete the double!

Winning the title at Old Trafford in your own house was...

was something fantastic.

We talk about it all week.

We're going there not for a draw, for anything.

We are going there to win.

And I think the way we played...

It was a perfect game away from home because we defend really well,

and Wiltord scored the winning goal.

I always felt, even as a player,

when a team beat you or were the best team,

then you hold your hand up.

And I think we were always good at that at United, I think...

Listen, we battled, but if the team were the better team

throughout the season, you deserved it

cos you know what it's like to win the league, it's difficult.

We could say, OK, we're going there and what was important

was not to lose so we can win the title next week at home.

No. But we didn't think that way.

We wanted to win at Old Trafford

because of the rivalry between the two clubs.

And we say to ourselves it's gonna hurt them if we win it there.

We knew that if we... won the title there that would be history.

That will be there forever.

Fantastic! Fantastic! HE SCREAMS

He was a raw talent who became a club legend.

During his nine seasons in North London,

Arsenal evolved from their English roots,

but throughout, Patrick Vieira was a constant.

The rock of that success.

So, Roy, this is my, erm... all-time best 11.

We've, erm... David Seaman.

He was by far the best Arsenal goalkeeper that I played with.

When you look at this here in the back four,

Adams and Campbell, really strong.

On the left-hand side, it was really easy

because I believe that Ashley Cole at that time,

when he was at Arsenal, for me,

was the best left back in the country.

It's amazing to let him go to look back at it, isn't it?

I was... I was quite surprised, to be honest.

I tried to fight a little bit because I wanted him to stay.

Ashley's supposed to be the next Arsenal captain. Yeah.

Because he was there from the youth, he grew up through the club,

and to let him go was... I was really disappointed.

To such a big rival as well, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah.

On the right-hand side, we've... we've Lauren.

I think most of the people would be surprised. Yeah.

And they're gonna ask me why not Dixon?

Because I think Lauren, he was more comfortable on the ball.

When you look at the midfield four,

playing next to Emmanuel Petit who, for me,

was the best player I played with at Arsenal.

On the left-hand side, Pires, who, erm...

don't do a lot of work defensively when we don't have the ball.

Right. But going forward...

He makes up for it, yeah. He will create something.

That's why we gave him that freedom as well.

You do the minimum, but you make us win the games going forward.

Exactly, yeah.

And Ljunberg who, erm... was different than Robert.

Not really comfortable on the ball, with the ball at his feet,

but really clever making the run.

He can score goals.

Yeah, his record, I bet it must be pretty good.

He can score goals and up front we've Bergkamp and Henry.

I think Bergkamp was a big signing for Arsenal at the time, wasn't he?

I think, this is when he arrived... It sent a big message, I think.

This is where Arsenal changed a little bit the philosophy,

like the long-ball direct game completely changed.

Of course, Thierry because of the number of goals that he scored.

Even the one against United, do you remember? When, er...

The one he turned, yeah? At Highbury.

I'm not sure he meant that, but, go on...

PATRICK LAUGHS

CROWD ROARS

I think the strength of that team was the way we played football,

the way we can play for each other, but putting the ball on the floor,

the movement, how we can create something.

We have so many players with flair in the team.

The strength of United's team

is like Roy, based on character, and, erm...

quite strong mentally. Are you saying I couldn't play?

Yes. BOTH LAUGH

You can win a game playing really bad.

Yeah. Yeah, good point.

To win a game, we have to play well.

You've done a decent job, but...

Yeah, not too bad. We win the title.

How many? Just... Just one?

BOTH LAUGH

You have to win it six or seven times, that's the... No, no.

I wouldn't disagree with any of that. No, decent team.

CROWD CHEERING

What emotion did playing against Roy bring out in you?

If I play against him, I will be concentrating.

All the week.

So I would prepare myself in a different way maybe

because I still have this game in my mind

and I still have how to play against him in my mind.

CROWD CHEERING

A lot of my preparation would be fear, fear of losing,

fear of letting people down,

fear of letting my neighbourhood down,

fear of letting the family down.

Fear. Fear played a big part in my sporting career.

Which lasts longer?

The enjoyment at winning or the frustration at losing?

The enjoyment was very, very brief, I'm afraid.

Too brief.

Cos before you know it, you're going into another game

and the fear creeps back in and that...

again, not wanting to let anybody down.

PRESS: Roy. Any regrets at all, Roy?

HE SPEAKS FRENCH

Any comment, Roy?

What does France represent to you?

This is a country who gave me everything, I would say.

What does Ireland represent to you?

Frustration.

It was the summer of '98.

BRIAN MOORE: That's there! And it's Zidane!

And Patrick Vieira was just 22.

France was going through a difficult...

..time of the identity.

'And winning the World Cup showed what was France.'

We had Zidane was from Algeria and...

French. You had Desailly,

you had Djorkaeff, you have myself, you have Thuram.

It was a symbol.

Vieira playing it in again for Petit!

And it's another one! CROWD ROARS

How often do you think about that achievement?

Winning the World Cup?

All the time. HE LAUGHS

Of course, all the time.

That is one of my proudest moments in my life.

Can you imagine what it must have taken for Roy to leave a World Cup?

HE LAUGHS GENTLY

Erm...

No.

It was the summer of 2002,

and Roy Keane should have been captaining Ireland

at the World Cup Finals.

REPORTER: Roy Keane has been sent home after a row

with manager Mick McCarthy.

REPORTER: Roy Keane was quoted as saying,

"He had absolutely no regrets about the row."

REPORTER: The manager had no option but to send him home.

Just a few minutes ago, Roy Keane walked out of his house

with his dog and he's now gone into the countryside for a jog.

If you could do one thing again, what would it be?

Play in the World Cup.

It would have been nice to play.

I think a lot of people were disappointed,

particularly my family.

CAMERA SHUTTERS SNAPPING

Mick did say to me that, "Well, if you don't respect me,

"then how can you play for me?"

And what I should have said was I wasn't playing for him,

I was playing for my country, but... Yeah, it had obviously gone then.

FERGUSON: I didn't want him to go to the World Cup

because he needed an operation.

But he was determined to play for Ireland and...

go there and win it because that's the kind of man he is.

I just felt we needed a change our attitude a little bit,

that we at least prepare as well as the Germans and the Brazilians.

Why not prepare as well as them?

You know, people always thought I was looking for perfection.

Far from it.

But what I was looking for was progress.

PRESS MURMUR

Roy Keane is now making the decisions with Ireland.

In November 2013, his country appointed him

their new Assistant Manager.

We've had a lovely few days, the hotel's been lovely.

We've had footballs. It's been great, bibs, everything.

It's been... major progress.

GENTLE LAUGHTER

Shock was an understatement. I thought it was disgraceful.

The biggest regret would be my incident with Neil Ruddock.

It wasn't the image I wanted to give to people.

Many times I went on the football pitch to hurt players,

that was my job, but I never went out to injure a player.

MUSIC: 'Shook Ones (Part II)' by Mobb Deep

What sort of culture did you walk into when you walked into Arsenal?

The majority of the players was English,

but through the months, through the years,

I find players who really love the club.

Arsenal was really important. Arsenal was part of their blood.

From day one, I knew United was the club for me.

From the first minute.

They kind of stood for everything I stood for,

and that's trying to be the best, improving all the time,

trying to win for the supporters.

And it suited me. I think it suited...

Man United just sat right with me.

Which was the best Arsenal team you played in?

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Which season?

It's gonna be really difficult for a season

because I started with some fantastic players

and I finished with some unbelievable players.

If you had to pick one?

The unbeaten team.

That... The Invincibles.

I don't like saying that bloody word but, erm...

they were pretty strong at the time.

That perfect season began explosively.

The clubs' mutual contempt culminated

in the notorious Battle Of Old Trafford.

TYLDESLEY: Vieira's off!

Ooh, he's not happy with Van Nistelrooy!

Oh! Would you believe it! CROWD ROARS

This is getting out of hand.

We haven't heard the last of this.

I don't think that was one of the most...

No, I don't... .. proudest moment for Arsenal...

Right, right, right.

..how we behaved on the pitch at that day.

The referee lost it a little bit during the game.

That's not the excuse because you should never react like that.

But there was a lot of tension, frustration

because when you play at Old Trafford...

you have decisions going on your way,

and that's the way it is.

And the same down at Arsenal at home.

Yeah, but not as much as United.

No, no. No?

Definitely. Definitely. The same when you go to Arsenal.

No, if you... Referee's decisions, absolutely.

No, I think it's only natural. United...

Yeah, but United is different. I don't know. I don't know.

You feel like you play against a fantastic football club,

fantastic players, but...

every decision was on United's side. The big incidents went against you.

Yes, and that gives you a frustration.

But to run off to a player and start jumping in his face.

Yeah, but that was a bad reaction. Shocking.

That's an understatement. I thought it was disgraceful.

Imagine... I will not go that far.

But to be jumping in a player's face, you know? No...

You lose your head and you make a decision...

I don't remember too many players jumping

in other players' faces, I have to say.

Yeah, it was Van Nistelrooy.

If it was somebody else, it was because it was not gonna happen.

OK. He... contribute on my sending-off.

And that was, for me, difficult to accept.

You certainly didn't do too much wrong. I don't think...

I didn't do nothing wrong.

I don't think Ruud did too much wrong, to be honest with you,

but I think the referee... Again, we are on about the pressure.

Yeah. We're on about the pressure for the players... the manager...

Can you imagine the officials? If you were a referee out there.

I know the top referees wanna ref the top games...

Would you have fancied United-Arsenal?

I'm not sure. Especially at Old Trafford.

Or obviously at Highbury.

But like I said, get frustrated all you want,

to be jumping in players' faces is unacceptable.

Four Arsenal players received bans totalling nine games.

The club were fined £175,000, it remains a record amount.

We have a responsibility as well as a player to help the referee.

And one of them is to behave properly. Yeah.

And I think Ruud or even Martin or myself,

we didn't help the referee that day. Lauren wasn't... exactly...

Yeah, you can mention Lauren and I can mention Giggs. Giggsy.

I can mention Roy Keane.

I was nowhere near that.

I was quite surprised you wasn't there.

I behaved myself that day and regret it!

BOTH LAUGH

Arsenal went on to win the Fair Play Award.

More significantly, that controversy fuelled their greatest ever season.

They were the first team in the modern era

to win the title without losing a match.

CROWD ROARS

Sir Alex Ferguson wanted to sign you, didn't he?

That was a good compliment.

Yeah.

Patrick Vieira signs for United. No.

No? No.

Never? Never.

Keane and Vieira? In the same midfield?

At Arsenal?

HE LAUGHS

OK, we try and pick the best team between the two of them?

Yeah? You happy with that? Yeah. Let's go, then.

We start with the goalkeepers.

David Seaman, top goalkeeper,

but I'd have Peter in there every day of the week.

I am gonna give you that one, the first one. Yeah. That was easy.

Right back?

To be honest, I quite like Lauren

because he's really good defensively, he liked to go forward.

I didn't like the guy that much, Lauren,

but I wouldn't hold it against you putting him in the team,

so, I'll give you that one.

You give me that one? We'll go with Lauren.

Left back?

I think that's gonna be a quick one as well.

Yeah, Denis, here we go. OK.

You'd have Cole over Denis Irwin?

Every day, I think.

We're looking after what the left back can bring to the team. Exactly.

Defensively and going forward. Exactly.

I believe that... BOTH LAUGH

We'll come back to that. Let's go with ones we've agreed on,

the keeper, the right back. Centre halves...

You can't have a team without Jaap Stam as a centre-half.

I give you that one. Stam, for me, was... unbelievable.

We'll go with this one. We'll go with this one.

OK. I'd be quite happy to give up...

give you maybe Tony Adams for his leadership skills,

and the fact that he could play, don't get me wrong.

He can play as well. Yeah, he can play.

Something obvious...

Ronaldo has to be part of...

Straight on with it?

Straight on with it. Right side or left side?

We'll go left. We can move him around anywhere.

If Denis Irwin's playing, he can get up outside him.

Yeah, yeah. PATRICK LAUGHS

You'd have to have Becks. Over Ljunberg?

Over Pires, I don't think so though.

You have Pires on the right instead of Beckham?

Jesus, Patrick.

Beckham, he will give you... goals...

and he's good on free kicks.

And he can run. And he can run.

He worked hard. He can play.

What you will need is somebody with a bit more flair, who can play.

I absolutely disagree with you, but...

we can't pick everybody.

I suppose it's very difficult to leave Henry out.

He was fantastic. No getting away from that.

As a modern striker, Henry can do everything.

He has to be in there.

Because he's...

The best striker in the last... Yeah.

..20 years in the Premier League.

I want Ruud in the team.

Because it's Henry, I'll go with Eric.

But I can't leave Ruud.

I'm upset with that one.

Patrick, I'd put you in the team.

For the way you played, your presence,

actually scored a few goals, I think, along the way.

Especially against United.

Obviously, you were a big character for Arsenal.

You can pick the other midfielder, don't let me down.

BOTH LAUGH

No, no, no, no. You would be in my team, definitely.

Shall I put myself in, then?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There we go.

I'll probably be sent off.

Can you imagine? You'll be sent off one week,

I'll be sent off the next week.

One last choice.

You'd have Denis Irwin in every day of the week. No.

Every day. No.

Never injured. Ashley is...

Never heard any off-the-field stuff.

Never on with the contracts. Ah...

All that comes into it. No, no.

All that comes into it. Does not come into it.

It's whoever gets there first. BOTH LAUGH

But I'd have Denis every day of the week. No chance.

Would Arsene Wenger have signed Roy Keane?

Erm...

That's a good question. HE LAUGHS

To be honest, football-wise, I would say yes, no doubt about it.

But there would be a big question about how Roy is... outside.

Yeah, that was a... That was a bad one.

I have to say, that was a bad day. I felt bad over that, definitely.

Do you think that intensity...

was your undoing? Er... With?

With Ireland and with United? Possibly so.

Nah, there's no doubt about it, but...

..that's part of my DNA.

There's no point in saying I wish I'd stepped back from that and...

You have to get in the ring.

CROWD ROARS

TYLDESLEY: Roy Keane! Who else?

A captain's goal from Patrick Vieira.

They led and inspired.

Two winners with a shared weakness for losing it.

REFEREE BLOWS WHISTLE

Retaliation and retribution added up to 21 red cards between them.

A taxi to the dark side was never too far away.

What's the biggest regret of your career?

Probably snapping my cruciate at Leeds.

CROWD ROARS

A massive disappointment, obviously, to be out of the game for a year.

There's your pal.

My pal, yes. Ruddock.

You got sent off for that, didn't you?

Should I take a pen and shake... Did you?

The biggest regret, no doubt, would be my incident with Neil Ruddock.

Is that the one run-in you had with him, was it?

Yeah, that's the one, I spat on his face,

I think I'd be sent off, yeah. Yeah.

To go that low, it wasn't a good day.

It wasn't the image that I wanted to give to people.

Were you provoked? Yeah, but that's part of the game.

CROWD NOISE

Would you do anything differently

with the Haaland revenge... tackle? Erm...

HE EXHALES DEEPLY

No.

Many times I went on the football pitch to hurt players, absolutely,

that was my job. And players went out to hurt me.

But I never went out to injure a player.

And I've never said that in my career.

But I did go to hurt people because that was my job.

Haaland was one for shouting his mouth off.

But I had plenty of examples

where lads would try and give me stick.

Again, my Irish background,

the Irish gypsy, and a few players would throw that at me.

Stupid talk. In the heat of the moment.

CLAMOUR

KEANE: Fuckin' hell... INDISTINCT

GRAHAM POLL: Roy! Roy!

I'll fucking see you out there. I'll see you out there!

'Ey, 'ey, 'ey, Roy. Roy, Roy.

I'll see you out there. Shootin' your mouth off, you.

Every week, making out you're a nice guy.

Come on, Roy! Come on.

'Come on...'

Who started it?

I started it.

HE LAUGHS

I was cool, I was really calm, I was smiling at him,

and then he lost it.

Fucking picking on Gary Neville. I'll talk to him.

He can pick on one of us.

'As we were going out for the start, I'd forgotten my armband.

'When I came out, I heard all this...'

I think I'd seen you at the top of the tunnel,

probably having a go at Gary.

And maybe one or two others.

And what really annoyed me that night was, again,

whether I was right or wrong is that...

you were picking on Gary. You know?

I was looking at Nicky Butt, and I think Wes Brown,

and thinking, what are you...

You were almost picking on the weakest link.

So that's what got my back up.

That there was two or three of you ganging up on Gary, simple as that.

But where I wanted to make the point to him at that time was like

when we played at Old Trafford, he was like tackling,

was fouling Robert Pires, and was doing it on purpose.

And I said, "Listen, we're not at Old Trafford here.

"This is Highbury."

Were you as polite as that?

You know me.

OK. Yeah. OK.

So... PATRICK LAUGHS

So I said to him, "If... you touch Robert,

"I will come after you." Right.

So I was... with respect. Protecting one of your teammates.

Protecting the teammate, yeah. Putting a marker down.

Yeah, it's true. You wasn't there. You wasn't there.

I had to go back and get my armband, like I said.

I'd forgot it. You get involved with something you don't know.

I came at the end, but I still had to walk past you

to get down to the start of the tunnel, so...

You remember what you say to me, no? I...

"Excuse me, Patrick, don't be speaking

"to one of my teammates like that."

PATRICK LAUGHS

I don't quite remember. Erm...

I can't quite remember, I'm sure you're gonna remind me.

Yeah, of course I remember because I remember that. Fire away.

You said to me, "Yeah, just leave him alone.

"You pretend to be this kind of nice person, and that you're not.

"We will see on the pitch."

BOTH LAUGH Yeah, of course.

You lost it, and, er...

And then when we started to come out of the tunnel, I quite liked it.

Maybe so. So I was expecting you...

..to lose it with me on the pitch. I didn't, thank God.

Nothing more in here.

Guys! Thank you.

As for what happened next...

MAN: Let's go, leave it in here.

There were no charges, no handshakes,

and United won 4-2.

It would be Keane and Vieira's last Premier League meeting.

I wanted to stay at Arsenal,

I wanted to finish my career at Arsenal.

I was upset. Of course I was upset.

And I did shed a few tears in my car outside the training ground

for about two minutes.

By May 2005, the Keane-Vieira cartel was coming to end.

Jose Mourinho's Chelsea were Premier League champions.

The FA Cup was the season's consolation prize.

CROWD NOISE

He didn't know it then,

but this would be Roy Keane's last major occasion

in a Manchester United shirt.

TYLDESLEY: Vieira to win it.

Yes!

He didn't know it then, but the game's decisive penalty

would be Patrick Vieira's curtain call as an Arsenal player.

How you won that game, I'll never know.

Your last kick of a ball, obviously, winning the cup,

no doubt a big thrill for you.

But I do look back on that game and seeing how well United played.

For us to hammer a team like Arsenal,

in terms of possession and chances, very rarely happened.

United was all over us.

We accept that United was better than us on the day,

so our job was not to concede a goal.

But United with Ronaldo, Rooney, create chances

and hit the bar and all the stuff like that.

And, of course, with the luck,

we went into the penalties and that was like...

We all need a bit of luck. That was our day.

Did you have an idea you might be leaving then?

Was there any talk, no?

No, I didn't have any idea that was the last game,

and I wasn't thinking about leaving at all.

The club really didn't fight or didn't really ask me to stay.

I wanted the club to say, "No. We don't want you to go,

"I want you to stay," like they did before.

Put it this way, when they accept the offer, that says enough.

Of course. Yeah. So I knew that...

it was time for me to go.

Well, not a bad way to finish, was it? No.

It's not a bad way, leaving Arsenal with the FA Cup.

It was fantastic for me.

It's better to be lucky than good, sometimes.

Yeah, but that's part of the game.

Yeah, of course. PATRICK LAUGHS

I was really close, leaving to Madrid, the year before I left.

The deal was done between the two clubs,

so when it was the time for me to leave,

erm... I change my mind because I...

I wanted to stay at Arsenal.

I wanted to finish my career at Arsenal.

I didn't see any reason to leave.

I don't know if it was lack of courage to go. Yeah.

If I knew I was leaving the year after,

I was going to Madrid.

I wouldn't say I've got regrets about not going abroad.

But I think it would have been a nice experience

to play for a different team.

When my contract ran out on a couple of occasions,

again, spoke to a few clubs, erm...

Bayern Munich, Juventus, erm...

And, yeah, I was very tempted, I have to say,

but like yourself, maybe there was a bit of fear.

Contracts were agreed, but I just never...

never felt strong enough to say I'm gonna go for it because... Strong.

..I was very happy at United.

Somebody who used to like me a few years ago.

BOTH LAUGH

Not any more. I'm sure deep inside he loves you.

Four months after Arsenal's skipper was sold to Juventus,

Manchester United's captain had left the club.

REPORTER: Roy Keane has gone by mutual agreement.

Following criticism of his teammates,

Sir Alex Ferguson decided Roy Keane had to go.

When you went into his office on November 18th, 2005,

that Friday morning, did you expect him to say...

"Time's up"? Yeah, no,

I'd talked to my lawyer the night before.

The manager said to me, "Listen, I think we've come to the end."

I said, "You're right. We had."

I'd obviously lost respect for him.

He'd lost respect for me.

Whatever had gone on in the few weeks...

Alex Ferguson thanked me for my 11 and a half years at the club,

I had to remind them I'd been there for 12 and a half.

Erm...

Again, I think that was all part of the game, you know.

And I felt what would be best for Man United,

if they felt I was some sort of loose cannon, shall we say,

was to leave.

What was your emotion walking out of that door?

Erm...

I kind of thought... I just knew that was business.

Got my boots... drove out, and as I was driving out,

obviously, players were coming into training.

I think one or two of them thought what's going on here?

Maybe I'm not well or something.

Erm... Yeah. And drove back.

Again, don't think I'm some sort of machine here,

and I'm, you know...

I was upset. Of course I was upset.

And I did shed a few tears in my car

outside the training ground for about two minutes.

But also told myself I need to, you know,

I need to get on with my life now and get home and get on with it.

Did Sir Alex time it right with you?

In letting you go? Absolutely not.

I walked out with nothing.

I had no club lined up, and I was injured.

I did had to remind David Gill that I got injured

breaking my foot playing for Man United.

Yet there they were saying, "Oh, you're injured again."

Well... Huh! I was injured cos I was putting tackles in.

FERGUSON: They paid up his whole contract.

We gave him a testimonial the following season, 75,000.

We did everything we could

to honour the fact he was a great player for us.

I could play for Man United easily another couple of years.

In the middle of the park?

He says you were starting to think like Peter Pan.

Yeah, well, that's... Again, I...

Having said that, people are entitled to opinion.

What was key for any player when you get to 34, 35

is stay surrounded by the top players.

I'm not saying I would have dominated games,

but could I have played for Man United?

Look at my last game for Man United.

It was at Liverpool, and I think I done OK that day.

So this idea that I was getting frustrated

that I wasn't allowed to get forward?

I think I was the most relieved man around.

He says you didn't like the John Magnier issue.

I thought that was wrong, absolutely.

It can't be good for the football club, can't be.

If a manager of a football club is, you know,

having legal trouble or taking legal action against major shareholders...

If people don't think that was...

had a negative effect on what was going on at the club,

then they are living in cuckoo land.

What did Sir Alex's recent book tell you about him?

Mm... There was no surprises for me.

I'd have been disappointed if he hadn't said what he said.

REPORTER: Front left, please, Sir Alex!

PRESS CLAMOUR

The manager's obviously accused me of trying to manage Man United,

you know, behind his back. But what I did do, I did...

you know, I managed the dressing room.

That was my job. I tried to look after the players,

I tried to nail players who had stepped out of line,

that was my job.

How would you describe your relationship today?

Absolutely non-existent.

Of course it is. Do you feel let down?

Erm... No, no.

No.

Nothing...

Nothing surprises me these days with, erm... with that man.

CAMERA BEEPS SHUTTER SNAPS

PATRICK CHUCKLES

Arsenal haven't won a trophy

since you lifted the FA Cup in 2005 on your final day in the shirt.

Why?

When you look at Arsenal, the way you play,

they play fantastic football,

but I think you need to win games playing badly,

and I don't think Arsenal are capable of that at the moment.

And maybe as well at the lack of leadership.

They may not have a Tony Adams, they don't have a Martin Keown,

they don't have a Sol Campbell.

These kind of players who can be a leader on and off the field.

What does Man United mean to you?

Obviously, I felt raw after I left there,

but I've eased off now a bit in terms of...

any sort of bad feeling I had towards them.

Obviously, that helps that Ferguson's gone now.

And I have a couple of season tickets now

and I go and watch them with my son, you know, as much as we can,

so, no, I have that warmth towards Man United again.

And it did leave me for a year or two I have to say,

which I feel bad saying because in my every minute of every hour

of every day I spent at that football club,

I have to say, I really enjoyed it.

I feel very fortunate to have played for them.

I think I've never seen you like that.

Ah, you were stressing me out, man.

That was Neville's fault again. Look at your eyes.

I've never seen your eyes like that. It is, yeah. Look.

That's assault, that is. I'm always defending myself. Yeah.

You'd like to see it happening now with certain players.

You don't see it. We don't see it.

That's why I think the game changed.

If I watched Arsenal-United,

yeah, they will still play really good football,

but not this kind of excitement...

But they're almost too nice to each other, aren't they?

Yeah. Too much respect for each other.

WENGER: 'A great rivalry gets the best out of the big competitors.

'People who can handle the pressure

'and can raise their game when it's needed.

'These are the great sportsmen. There were two of them.'

How is it, Patrick, eh? Happy days.

Happy days. Yes. Happy days.

And who did win the war?

Me, of course. HE LAUGHS

I'm convinced I did.

Patrick won a few battles, no doubt about it,

and he was a very, very good opponent,

but if I had to play Patrick...

in ten games, I'm convinced I'd dominate him in about eight of them.

I was asking myself about you, how you are outside the field?

On the field, I knew how you was.

But outside the field, I always had this kind of question mark.

And I think we are quite similar.

We could open and talk about everything and nothing.

We have our own opinion,

and our own view on different things.

But I'm not disappointed at all how you are as a person

because how you are as a person is the same way you are on the field.

I really loved fighting against you

because, of course, there's a mutual respect there

for what you have accomplished as a player, as a captain, as a leader,

and that's why when they asked me to do this, I said yes straightaway.

I knew when I was playing against you,

I had to be at my very, very best,

and for that I appreciate it and I enjoyed our battles together.

And more importantly now I meet you away from footballing

and I still have that respect for you.

It was always a pleasure, and an honour playing against you.

Thank you, Patrick. No problem.

I think it's a weaker looking team then actually my United team,

if I'm being honest with you.

Like, Pires has no mind getting in there, do you not think?

You think so?

Oh, Becks... I don't...

Bergkamp has to be in the team. ROY CHUCKLES

No, seriously. He's not made it.

Bergkamp has to be in team. But he doesn't fly.

What does that say about him? He doesn't fly, it doesn't matter.

It does, you play a lot of your games away from home.

I know, but... Pre-season tours.

Give him an injection and he will fly.

An injection... PATRICK CHUCKLES

Pre-season tours, he can't make them.

No, I... You can't believe he isn't on the team,

and I can't believe Ruud van Nistelrooy...

Ruud's record.

He can score goals, yeah, I give you that.

That's the hardest part of football - scoring goals.

I reckon his record must be up there...

Is it not up there with Henry's for goals?

I don't think so.

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