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MAN: Hey, hey, hey.
Come on, come on!
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CLAMOUR
Roy! Roy!
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GABRIEL CLARKE: Who started it?
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I started it.
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HE LAUGHS
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For a decade, their clubs dominated
English football...
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CLIVE TYLDESLEY: A captain's goal
for Patrick Vieira!
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..in a brilliant, vicious Premier
League rivalry
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that's never been bettered.
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Roy Keane! Who else?
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Manchester United - Arsenal.
Ferguson - Wenger.
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Treble winners - Invincibles.
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They're the best teams in England,
and they really do not get on.
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And at the centre of it,
setting the tone,
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doing whatever it took,
an Irishman and a Frenchman.
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It's all starting to overheat.
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Keane - Vieira.
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Roy, Roy.
I'll see you out there!
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Shootin' your mouth off, you!
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Nothing more in here.
Yes.
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Understand?
Yes.
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Yes.
Thank you.
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I had a lot of hatred for Arsenal
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because I knew they were big rivals.
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I can't think of any other word...
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that springs to mind
when I was getting ready
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to go to battle with Arsenal.
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Absolute hatred was the word.
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When you finish the game,
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the first result you're gonna
look at is what United did.
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If you want to win the league,
you have to finish above United.
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It was simple as that.
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On a Monday I would be...
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Particularly the parts of my body
which I'd had previous injuries,
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whether it were my cruciate
or my hip or previous knocks,
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they would be aching me.
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And I know just cos my body knew
I was gonna be going into battle,
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and it was almost getting ready to,
listen... I'm gonna suffer.
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Describe Patrick Vieira -
the opponent.
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Very, very, very, very, tough.
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What was his biggest strength?
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He was tough.
HE CHUCKLES
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Describe Roy Keane - the opponent.
PATRICK LAUGHS
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He's a winner.
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He's a leader.
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The biggest compliment I'd give
Patrick is I knew I always had
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to be at my very, very, very best
against him.
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I couldn't have an off day
against him.
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He's my favourite enemy.
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I don't know if that makes sense
for you?
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But it did make sense for me
because... I loved every...
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..aspect of his game.
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What about the bad things?
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The bad things?
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He can lose his head.
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He can forget about the game.
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He can be reckless.
He can...
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'He can be reckless.'
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All right, how are you?
OK.
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What was his biggest weakness?
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I don't think he was as tough as me.
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How do you make that judgement?
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I just know.
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From playing against him.
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Did he intimidate you?
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No. He excited me.
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CROWD ROARS
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TYLDESLEY: Arsenal, Manchester
United, has got personal now.
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When you play against teams
like Arsenal,
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there's usually one
or two players you might like,
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but I don't remember
liking anybody at Arsenal.
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PATRICK LAUGHS
No, I have to say.
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I used to build myself up to...
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to have that hatred...
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and get my body psyched up
cos I knew I had to be
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at my kind of angriest to be at my
best in a sense against Arsenal.
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I never felt like that
against any other team,
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but Arsenal brought out
something different in me.
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You get used to beat any team...
Yeah.
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..to win everything
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and maybe you guys don't get used
to get that challenge.
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But, of course,
you had Liverpool before.
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But maybe the Arsenal before this
kind of foreign players came in...
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Maybe so.
There was maybe something...
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maybe new, maybe you had something
that you don't like
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about the foreigners come in,
and... bring something different.
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I think it was strange enough
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that usually when there's
rivalry between clubs,
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there's some mutual respect
amongst the managers
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and they almost play it down
a little bit,
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but nobody was taking the heat out
of it, do you not think?
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It was the media were loving it.
The media loving it.
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The media loving it.
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I think the managers were almost
enjoying it cos I never...
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I never remember the manager
ever saying to me,
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listen, relax
before the Arsenal game,
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or... erm...
kind of chill out a bit.
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It was like, they were kind
of quite happy for us
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to get our backs up a little bit
even before we started.
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And when you look at our...
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what was your strength
and what was my strength,
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I think is quite similar.
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If one of us take advantage
of the other ones,
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we may have more chance
to win the game.
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Absolutely.
I knew that before the game.
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If I was over you, we may have more
chance of winning the game
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because I know
how you was important.
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Every time we played, you thought
there's gonna be fireworks.
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You didn't know what to expect.
Of course.
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You didn't know what to expect.
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CROWD NOISE
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When I first came through,
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obviously, I was up against
Paul Gascoigne, Bryan Robson,
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and you always have
to establish yourself.
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It took me three or four years,
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then I was up
against the David Battys,
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the Rob Lees, the Gary Speeds...
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And then you were coming along
and I'm thinking, obviously,
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there's this new young kid
on the scene,
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it's almost my job is to try
and keep you down there.
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That was an important role
for me that I didn't feel
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you were gonna get the edge on me
because I needed...
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I needed to dominate...
even the players at Man United.
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My own midfielders.
So if you were beating me
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in these rivalries, these battles
in the middle of the park,
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I think would have...
It would have cost me long-term,
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so I had to try and keep you...
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quiet, which is obviously difficult.
But that's...
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But that's why I think we are
similar.
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That's why I think we...
We make it.
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Look at us... There we are.
Maybe we should...
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See, this one?
Can you get close to this one?
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You should get close
to that one here.
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Look.
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What age are you there?
A long time ago.
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17. 16?
No, I was...
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18. 17, 18.
I was in Cannes.
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What did you have as a young pro
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that other talented players
didn't have?
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Heart.
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'The dream was to be a footballer.
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'I had no other dreams
about anything else.
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'I left school with no real
education, which is a big regret.'
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When I got the trial at Forest,
I just...
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I knew I wouldn't be coming back.
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I can do sacrifice,
and I can work really hard,
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because I wanted to make it,
I wanted to be successful,
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and I was not gonna give up.
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I had massive desire
and determination.
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A ridiculous amount of hunger.
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I was proud of my roots, but I also
wanted to get away from my area.
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I wanted to go
and achieve something.
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What was your greatest moment
at Arsenal?
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Greatest moment? Erm...
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First year we won the double, '98.
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The commitment of the players,
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the love that the fans showing
to the people,
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the atmosphere in the stadium.
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This is where I realised I was,
er...
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I was in a really special place.
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What was your one greatest moment
at United?
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I think signing for them.
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Getting an opportunity to play for
Man United was absolutely fantastic.
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Absolutely.
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I'd had three great years
at Forest and, erm...
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No, going to United was brilliant.
A dream come true, I suppose.
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What is the one proudest moment
of your career?
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When, erm...
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Arsene decided I was going
to be the captain
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when Tony Adams wasn't there
any more.
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I suppose winning the treble
with United was a good achievement,
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a great achievement, really,
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in fairness
to a really good bunch of players.
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What's the first quality
a great captain has to have?
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Leadership.
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Try and be the best player.
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Who was the best manager
you played for?
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Arsene Wenger.
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Who's the best manager
you played for?
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Erm...
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Without a doubt...
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Brian Clough.
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Not Sir Alex?
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You asked me the question,
I answered you.
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CROWD ROARS
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PETER DRURY: Giggs! Oh, fantastic!
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HE PUFFS
It was like the end of the world.
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I never felt for one second I was...
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..more important than the manager.
Absolute... nonsense.
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MUSIC: 'Still D.R.E.'
by Dr Dre feat. Snoop Dogg
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Which was the best United team
you played?
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The one that won the treble.
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I think with Yorke
and Andy Cole up front.
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Beckham on the right,
Giggs on the left,
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Keane and Scholes in the middle.
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That was, for me,
the best United team.
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An epic FA Cup tie triggered
United's run to history.
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PETER DRURY: It's Beckham!
CROWD ROARS
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Fabulous goal!
Bergkamp's hit one!
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Magnificent equaliser for Arsenal!
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Keane went diving in...
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and is sent off.
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Tackle by Philip Neville...
A penalty.
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CROWD JEERING
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Oh, what a save!
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CROWD ROARS
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Unbelievable!
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Oh, Vieira, straight into the path
of Ryan Giggs
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who has Yorke ahead of him
and Scholes alongside.
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But he's run away from Vieira.
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It's Ryan Giggs
wriggling into the penalty area.
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Giggs! Oh, fantastic!
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What a goal!
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You probably still think
about the pass to Giggsy.
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Why do you have to start there?
No, well, I have to...
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We'll have to go on to
my sending-off.
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I still can't understand
why no Arsenal player fouled him
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when he was running...
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40, 50 yards to score a goal.
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I know people go on
about your mistake,
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but when you lose a ball
on the halfway line,
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you shouldn't worry too much
when you're up against ten men.
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If it was somebody else
with the ball,
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I don't think he will go that fast,
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and to go until the end
to score the goal.
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If it was like on the Beckham side
or anybody else's side,
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it would not be as agile...
But it's amazing nobody fouled him.
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Yeah, yeah.
It's amazing.
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It was...
It was bad defending from all of us.
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I would have just absolutely took
him out.
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Absolutely.
Yeah.
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Cos you got to have... To me,
what your team didn't do that night,
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particularly - smell that danger.
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You must know that a player
like Giggsy
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has it in his locker
to go past people. Yeah...
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I think it was United's moment.
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Absolutely. If you played
the game again ten times,
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I believe we would win it
nine times.
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The way that we lost,
especially when you was sent off,
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and it was you being sent off,
it wasn't somebody else...
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Not that I deserved to be sent off.
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I think the referee was a bit harsh
on me again that night, but...
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For once, for United, it was tough.
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For once, the referee
was hard on United, so...
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When you lose your leader,
you can be a little more weak.
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And when we had the penalty, for me,
it was game over.
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We felt like we gave the game away
because it was in our hand.
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Do you think about that pass?
You think about it?
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Of course.
Yeah.
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Even if I don't think about it,
I've seen so many...
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United fans who will talk
to me about it.
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Giggs! Oh, fantastic!
CROWD ROARS
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What a goal!
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HE PUFFS
It was like the end of the world.
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But I think history has to be like
United has to go and win the treble.
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A week after overcoming Arsenal,
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those treble chance odds
had widened again.
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In Italy, Juventus were two goals
in front
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and smoothly on course
for the Champions League Final.
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Then...
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TYLDESLEY: In towards Keane!
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Roy Keane with a captain's goal
for Manchester United!
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Eight minutes later,
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the skipper overstretched
to reach an under-hit pass.
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A flash of yellow meant suspension
from any final.
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In the very same stadium
where Gazza shed semi-final tears,
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Keane oozed defiance
as United rolled onto victory.
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REFEREE BLOWS WHISTLE
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One night in Turin,
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headlined for better
and for worse by one man.
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"Pounding every blade of grass,
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"competing as if he would rather
die of exhaustion than lose,
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"he inspired all around him.
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"I felt as if it were an honour
to be associated with this player."
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Sir Alex Ferguson
on Roy Keane versus Juventus.
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1999.
He didn't...
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He didn't put that in his last book,
did he? No? No.
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Not in the last one.
OK.
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The one before that.
OK.
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CROWD CHEERING
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Stuff like that kind
of almost insults me.
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What am I supposed to do?
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Give up?
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Not cover every blade of grass?
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Not do my best for my teammates?
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Not do my best for my club?
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Er...
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To be honest,
I actually get offended
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when people throw quotes like that
at me
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as if I'm supposed to be,
erm... honoured by it.
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It's like praising the postman
for delivering your letters.
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He's supposed to, isn't he?
That's his job.
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My job is to try and win football
matches for Man United.
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On to Barcelona
where the captain's resolve
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was now part of the team's DNA.
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Into Sheringham and Solskjaer
has done it!
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At the end,
there was no John Terry kit change.
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Keane kept his suit on
and tried to smile.
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Do you look at your
Champions League Winner's medal?
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I've eased off a bit.
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At the time,
I felt I didn't deserve it.
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I have one.
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Yeah, I think it was 13 games
that year,
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I played in 12 of them.
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Maybe I do deserve it, I'm not sure.
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My regret is the other finals we
should have got to with Man Utd.
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Domestically, his career spanned
the greatest era at Old Trafford,
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seven league titles in 12 years,
all overseen by one manager
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but more than 100 teammates
received the benefit
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of Keane's intense brand of insight.
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OK, this is my all-time
United 11.
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The players I've played with.
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Schmeichel, by far the best keeper.
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Believe it or not, we actually
didn't get on that well together.
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PATRICK CHUCKLES
You might be surprised to hear.
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I'm not surprised at all,
to be honest.
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No, but... an absolute top,
top goalkeeper.
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Denis Irwin.
Good at set pieces,
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could defend, trained properly,
good lad,
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and he's an Irishman
which always helps.
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I've got Pallister for his size.
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Even after two minutes,
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he looked like he'd been playing
for an hour.
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Always looked tired.
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Jaap - top centre half.
Yeah, I remember.
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Really...
Jaap - tough guy,
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you've obviously
had a few run-ins with him.
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Paul Parker, again,
I played with Parks in his prime.
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Top, top defender.
333
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I was expecting
to see Gary Neville over there.
334
00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,640
Yeah. Yeah, Gary...
On the right-hand side.
335
00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,960
Gary would be a little bit unlucky,
but he'd be on the bench.
336
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I played with Incey again
in his prime,
337
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and people tend to forget
how good Incey was.
338
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Ronaldo again, a young player
when he came to United.
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A great attitude,
scores you goals for fun.
340
00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,960
I found it very hard to leave
Becks out because of his work rate,
341
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the amount of goals he gets,
his assists, his set play delivery.
342
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If I was gonna leave anybody out,
343
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it would probably be myself
for probably Scholesy.
344
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In terms of finishers,
Ruud was the guy.
345
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He can score goals, yeah.
Absolutely.
346
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When I saw him go through one-on-one
on with the goalkeeper,
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I just knew it was a goal.
And Eric, a big character again.
348
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When he came to United,
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United had threatened to win
the league for many, many years.
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They'd obviously won a few cups
and Eric was just that difference.
351
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If you're going into battle
against Arsenal,
352
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then you want people like Eric
in your team.
353
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This team, I felt they were
all very good characters
354
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cos this team could play...
Strong, yeah.
355
00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:01,960
Yeah, can play when teams wanted
to play,
356
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and if teams wanted to fight us,
357
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they would fight
with the best of them.
358
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Patrick, which player
that Roy hasn't selected
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would you have selected?
Scholes.
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No doubt about it.
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I think Scholes was, for me,
the best... English player,
362
00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:22,960
and one of the best United players
that I played against.
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He can do everything.
364
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Roy...
Can we change it?
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BOTH LAUGH
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The most decorated player
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in Manchester United's history
is not in that team.
368
00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,480
A great career
doesn't mean you're a great player.
369
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I think there's a big difference,
and I'm not saying Giggsy wasn't...
370
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Do I leave Ronaldo out?
371
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One of the world's greatest players?
372
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Do I leave Becks out?
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I just couldn't feel like
I could leave Becks out.
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There is one common denominator,
some fans might see
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to some of the selections.
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Stam...
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00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,960
..Beckham... Keane... Ince...
Van Nistelrooy.
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Took on the manager.
You don't win league titles
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by having choirboys
in your dressing room.
380
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All these boys did challenge
the manager in different ways.
381
00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,160
Becks challenged him, but because
if you marry a certain woman,
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00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,960
does that mean you're challenging
the manager? Far from it.
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00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,000
I think the manager's got to
understand that and say, listen,
384
00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,960
we've got different personalities
in our dressing room,
385
00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,960
but maybe
that's why we're winning trophies.
386
00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:20,000
It's tough making a decision,
by the way.
387
00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,960
It's really tough
to make a decision.
388
00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,960
Yeah, absolutely.
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Maybe that's why I'm not a manager.
BOTH LAUGH
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CROWD JEERING
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WENGER: 'You had two
competitive animals
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'who are ready to do anything
to win.
393
00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,960
'It was an extension of the rivalry
of the club and the managers.
394
00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,960
'These two guys
were a symbol of that.'
395
00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:55,960
What was Arsene Wenger's
one biggest strength?
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Trust. He trusts his players.
397
00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:03,960
He will try to make you make
the right decision by yourself.
398
00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,960
Not him telling you what he expects
or what he wants you to do.
399
00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,000
If he has a weakness, what is it?
400
00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,960
That can be a weakness as well
401
00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,960
because sometimes as a player,
you needed...
402
00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,960
a good kick in your arse.
403
00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:23,960
If you had one word to describe Sir
Alex Ferguson, what would it be?
404
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HE EXHALES
405
00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,480
Ruthless.
406
00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,960
What's Sir Alex Ferguson's
biggest strength?
407
00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,960
I suppose he's ruthless.
408
00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,320
What's Sir Alex Ferguson's
biggest weakness?
409
00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:57,960
Loyalty.
410
00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,960
'Arsene just came from Japan
411
00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,960
'and challenged Alex Ferguson
in the press,
412
00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,960
'in the field,
building a strong team.'
413
00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:12,960
United, Ferguson and Roy Keane
was in a comfortable zone,
414
00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,960
winning everything all the time.
415
00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,160
Seeing these people come in
and try to challenge them,
416
00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,960
of course they didn't like it
because when you win all the time,
417
00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,960
why you want that to change?
418
00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:23,960
The two words the manager -
419
00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,000
and he spoke to me about it
a number of times -
420
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was control and power.
That was how we worked.
421
00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:29,960
I think we can clearly see that
422
00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,320
because he's still striving
for it now,
423
00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,960
even though he's not the manager.
424
00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,000
I don't think that will
ever leave him. Erm...
425
00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,960
I think there's a massive ego
involved in that.
426
00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,960
You have a power and control
over people,
427
00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,960
and then you try to have it even
when you're not working with them.
428
00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,160
Er... I suppose the biggest
compliment I can give him
429
00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:46,960
for all the games I played
under him,
430
00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,960
I always felt he got it right...
431
00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,960
He always had a good feel for what
the group needed, in the sense of...
432
00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,000
it might be a team talk, erm...
if a player stepped out of line.
433
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,320
He generally got it right.
434
00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,960
When you're a captain,
the type of character I was,
435
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,960
I would obviously push boundaries
with certain people,
436
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,960
the coaching staff,
to always want the best.
437
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,960
I think sometimes I got it wrong.
Absolutely.
438
00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,960
Sometimes maybe went overboard,
but I think nine times out of ten,
439
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,960
I got it right, and I think
that's not a bad average.
440
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,960
What went wrong, then?
441
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,960
What was it about
the MUTV interview?
442
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:20,960
Nothing.
That so upset...
443
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,960
Absolutely...
What do you think it was?
444
00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,960
I'm not sure.
445
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FERGUSON: 'For one reason
or another,
446
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,960
'he decided to go and criticise
his teammates, and...
447
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,960
'I know most of you
have not seen that video,
448
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,480
'but you couldn't release it.
449
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:34,960
'We couldn't release it.'
450
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,000
I did have to do a video
with the club, it's in my contract,
451
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,960
where you analyse games.
452
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,960
And my game happened
to be Middlesbrough 4-1.
453
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,960
I had an opportunity to watch this
so-called programme
454
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,960
that apparently
where I slagged everybody off,
455
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,960
and I spoke wages and...
which was nonsense.
456
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:52,960
I said a few comments, to be fair.
457
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,480
About Darren Fletcher,
about tackling, but...
458
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,000
..almost tongue in cheek, really,
about it.
459
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:00,960
But what was important for me,
460
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,960
that we managed to watch the DVD
together,
461
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,960
the opportunity to say, look,
any of you have a problem...
462
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,960
Cos a lot was getting
through the media, exaggerated.
463
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,960
And that was important to me.
464
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,960
'For Roy, he overstepped his mark.
Absolutely overstepped his mark,
465
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,960
'and there was no other thing
we could do.'
466
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:18,000
Sir Alex Ferguson, in his new book,
says that interview was a disgrace.
467
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,960
Well, he's wrong with that one.
468
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,960
Just cos Alex Ferguson says it,
doesn't mean it's the truth.
469
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:23,960
He's absolutely wrong.
470
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,960
Really what would have helped
everybody is if they just played...
471
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,960
the damn video!
472
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:29,960
He says in his book,
473
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,960
"Roy had reached the point where you
were assuming managerial duties."
474
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,960
No, well, I'd been doing that
for a number of years,
475
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,960
in the dressing room.
476
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,960
I think he actually
appreciated that.
477
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,960
In private conversation with people,
I always backed the manager,
478
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,960
even when beaten, I would say
the players need to do better.
479
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,960
I never felt for one second
I was...
480
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,960
more important than the manager.
Absolute... nonsense.
481
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,960
Come on, boys.
482
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,960
Come on, Wazza. Use your head.
483
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,960
'People think I was ranting
and raving every day
484
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,640
'at my time at Man United.
485
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,960
'I certainly wouldn't have stayed
that long.'
486
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:03,960
I wouldn't have been captain
487
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,960
and we wouldn't have won
the trophies we won.
488
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,960
Generally,
the players I was shouting at
489
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were the ones I cared about.
490
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,960
Of one confrontation,
Sir Alex says in his book,
491
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,640
"His eyes started to narrow
almost to wee black beads." No.
492
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,960
"It was frightening to watch."
493
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,960
Well, now, if you believe that...
HE INHALES SHARPLY
494
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,640
..you'll believe anything.
495
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,960
Fantastic! Fantastic!
496
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,960
Winning the title at Old Trafford,
that would be history.
497
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,640
That will be there forever.
498
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,960
If you could do one thing again,
what would it be?
499
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:41,960
Play in the World Cup.
500
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:51,960
MUSIC: 'Short Change Hero'
by The Heavy
501
00:22:59,960 --> 00:23:01,960
Could your battle
with Patrick determine
502
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,960
which way the match went?
Absolutely.
503
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:04,960
A massive influence on it.
Of course.
504
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,960
If I know I'm dominating Patrick,
then I know the other players
505
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,960
will get a lift and certainly
the supporters will get a lift.
506
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,960
And obviously that didn't
always happen,
507
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,960
and the battles I felt I lost...
508
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,960
..we generally lost them games.
509
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,320
What was your best performance
against Roy?
510
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,960
I think when we won
the title at Old Trafford
511
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,960
was a really big performance.
512
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,960
That was a good performance
from Arsenal, from myself,
513
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,960
and a bad performance from Roy.
HE LAUGHS GENTLY
514
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,800
Arsenal had won the FA Cup
four days earlier.
515
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,960
A draw would clinch an historic
third double,
516
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,640
but this was an opportunity
to drive home their new dominance,
517
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,960
to make the enemy suffer.
518
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,960
TYLDESLEY: What a way to complete
the double.
519
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,960
What a place to complete the double!
520
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:59,960
Winning the title at Old Trafford
in your own house was...
521
00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:01,960
was something fantastic.
522
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,160
We talk about it all week.
523
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,960
We're going there not for a draw,
for anything.
524
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,160
We are going there to win.
525
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,960
And I think the way we played...
526
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:15,000
It was a perfect game away from home
because we defend really well,
527
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,000
and Wiltord scored the winning goal.
528
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,960
I always felt, even as a player,
529
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,320
when a team beat you
or were the best team,
530
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:22,960
then you hold your hand up.
531
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,960
And I think we were always good
at that at United, I think...
532
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,960
Listen, we battled,
but if the team were the better team
533
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,960
throughout the season,
you deserved it
534
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,960
cos you know what it's like
to win the league, it's difficult.
535
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,640
We could say, OK, we're going there
and what was important
536
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,960
was not to lose so we can win
the title next week at home.
537
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,960
No.
But we didn't think that way.
538
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,960
We wanted to win at Old Trafford
539
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,160
because of the rivalry
between the two clubs.
540
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,960
And we say to ourselves it's gonna
hurt them if we win it there.
541
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,960
We knew that if we... won the title
there that would be history.
542
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,960
That will be there forever.
543
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,960
Fantastic! Fantastic!
HE SCREAMS
544
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,960
He was a raw talent
who became a club legend.
545
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,960
During his nine seasons
in North London,
546
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,960
Arsenal evolved
from their English roots,
547
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,960
but throughout,
Patrick Vieira was a constant.
548
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,960
The rock of that success.
549
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:24,960
So, Roy, this is my, erm...
all-time best 11.
550
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,480
We've, erm... David Seaman.
551
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,960
He was by far the best Arsenal
goalkeeper that I played with.
552
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,960
When you look at this here
in the back four,
553
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,960
Adams and Campbell,
really strong.
554
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,960
On the left-hand side,
it was really easy
555
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,960
because I believe
that Ashley Cole at that time,
556
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,960
when he was at Arsenal, for me,
557
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,960
was the best left back
in the country.
558
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,320
It's amazing to let him go
to look back at it, isn't it?
559
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:48,960
I was...
I was quite surprised, to be honest.
560
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,960
I tried to fight a little bit
because I wanted him to stay.
561
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,640
Ashley's supposed to be
the next Arsenal captain. Yeah.
562
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,960
Because he was there from the youth,
he grew up through the club,
563
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,960
and to let him go was...
I was really disappointed.
564
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,800
To such a big rival as well,
wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah.
565
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,960
On the right-hand side, we've...
we've Lauren.
566
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,000
I think most of the people
would be surprised. Yeah.
567
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,960
And they're gonna ask me
why not Dixon?
568
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,960
Because I think Lauren,
he was more comfortable on the ball.
569
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,640
When you look at the midfield four,
570
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,800
playing next to Emmanuel Petit
who, for me,
571
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,960
was the best player I played with
at Arsenal.
572
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,800
On the left-hand side, Pires,
who, erm...
573
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,960
don't do a lot of work defensively
when we don't have the ball.
574
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,960
Right.
But going forward...
575
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,960
He makes up for it, yeah.
He will create something.
576
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,480
That's why we gave him
that freedom as well.
577
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,960
You do the minimum, but you make us
win the games going forward.
578
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,160
Exactly, yeah.
579
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:46,960
And Ljunberg who, erm...
was different than Robert.
580
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,960
Not really comfortable on the ball,
with the ball at his feet,
581
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,960
but really clever making the run.
582
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:52,960
He can score goals.
583
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,960
Yeah, his record,
I bet it must be pretty good.
584
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,960
He can score goals and up front
we've Bergkamp and Henry.
585
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,960
I think Bergkamp was a big signing
for Arsenal at the time, wasn't he?
586
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,960
I think, this is when he arrived...
It sent a big message, I think.
587
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,960
This is where Arsenal
changed a little bit the philosophy,
588
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,160
like the long-ball direct game
completely changed.
589
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,960
Of course, Thierry because of
the number of goals that he scored.
590
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,960
Even the one against United,
do you remember? When, er...
591
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,960
The one he turned, yeah?
At Highbury.
592
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:19,960
I'm not sure he meant that,
but, go on...
593
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,960
PATRICK LAUGHS
594
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,800
CROWD ROARS
595
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,960
I think the strength of that team
was the way we played football,
596
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,960
the way we can play for each other,
but putting the ball on the floor,
597
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,960
the movement,
how we can create something.
598
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,000
We have so many players
with flair in the team.
599
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,960
The strength of United's team
600
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:48,960
is like Roy, based on character,
and, erm...
601
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,160
quite strong mentally.
Are you saying I couldn't play?
602
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,960
Yes.
BOTH LAUGH
603
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,960
You can win a game
playing really bad.
604
00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:01,960
Yeah. Yeah, good point.
605
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,960
To win a game, we have to play well.
606
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,960
You've done a decent job, but...
607
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,800
Yeah, not too bad.
We win the title.
608
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,160
How many? Just... Just one?
609
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,960
BOTH LAUGH
610
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,640
You have to win it six or seven
times, that's the... No, no.
611
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,960
I wouldn't disagree with any
of that. No, decent team.
612
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:25,960
CROWD CHEERING
613
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,960
What emotion did playing
against Roy bring out in you?
614
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,960
If I play against him,
I will be concentrating.
615
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,000
All the week.
616
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,480
So I would prepare myself
in a different way maybe
617
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,960
because I still have this game
in my mind
618
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,960
and I still have how to play against
him in my mind.
619
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,960
CROWD CHEERING
620
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,960
A lot of my preparation
would be fear, fear of losing,
621
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,320
fear of letting people down,
622
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,960
fear of letting
my neighbourhood down,
623
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,960
fear of letting the family down.
624
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,320
Fear. Fear played a big part
in my sporting career.
625
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:04,960
Which lasts longer?
626
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,960
The enjoyment at winning
or the frustration at losing?
627
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,960
The enjoyment was very, very brief,
I'm afraid.
628
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,960
Too brief.
629
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,960
Cos before you know it, you're going
into another game
630
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,480
and the fear creeps back in
and that...
631
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,960
again, not wanting
to let anybody down.
632
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,960
PRESS: Roy. Any regrets at all, Roy?
633
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,960
HE SPEAKS FRENCH
634
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,640
Any comment, Roy?
635
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,960
What does France represent to you?
636
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,960
This is a country
who gave me everything, I would say.
637
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,960
What does Ireland represent to you?
638
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,960
Frustration.
639
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,960
It was the summer of '98.
640
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,960
BRIAN MOORE: That's there!
And it's Zidane!
641
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,800
And Patrick Vieira was just 22.
642
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,960
France was going through
a difficult...
643
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,960
..time of the identity.
644
00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:01,000
'And winning the World Cup
showed what was France.'
645
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,960
We had Zidane was from Algeria
and...
646
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,960
French.
You had Desailly,
647
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,640
you had Djorkaeff, you have myself,
you have Thuram.
648
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,480
It was a symbol.
649
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,800
Vieira playing it in again
for Petit!
650
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,960
And it's another one!
CROWD ROARS
651
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,960
How often do you think
about that achievement?
652
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,480
Winning the World Cup?
653
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,960
All the time.
HE LAUGHS
654
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:27,960
Of course, all the time.
655
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,800
That is one of my proudest moments
in my life.
656
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,960
Can you imagine what it must have
taken for Roy to leave a World Cup?
657
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,960
HE LAUGHS GENTLY
658
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,960
Erm...
659
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:45,960
No.
660
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,960
It was the summer of 2002,
661
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,320
and Roy Keane should
have been captaining Ireland
662
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,960
at the World Cup Finals.
663
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,960
REPORTER: Roy Keane has been
sent home after a row
664
00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:00,960
with manager Mick McCarthy.
665
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,960
REPORTER: Roy Keane was quoted
as saying,
666
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,960
"He had absolutely no regrets
about the row."
667
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,960
REPORTER: The manager
had no option but to send him home.
668
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,480
Just a few minutes ago,
Roy Keane walked out of his house
669
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,160
with his dog and he's now gone
into the countryside for a jog.
670
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:17,960
If you could do one thing again,
what would it be?
671
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,960
Play in the World Cup.
672
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,960
It would have been nice to play.
673
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,960
I think a lot of people
were disappointed,
674
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:26,960
particularly my family.
675
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,960
CAMERA SHUTTERS SNAPPING
676
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,640
Mick did say to me that,
"Well, if you don't respect me,
677
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,000
"then how can you play for me?"
678
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,960
And what I should have said
was I wasn't playing for him,
679
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,960
I was playing for my country, but...
Yeah, it had obviously gone then.
680
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,960
FERGUSON: I didn't want him
to go to the World Cup
681
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,960
because he needed
an operation.
682
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,960
But he was determined to play
for Ireland and...
683
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,960
go there and win it because
that's the kind of man he is.
684
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,960
I just felt we needed a change
our attitude a little bit,
685
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,640
that we at least prepare as well
as the Germans and the Brazilians.
686
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:01,960
Why not prepare as well as them?
687
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,960
You know, people always thought
I was looking for perfection.
688
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:05,960
Far from it.
689
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,960
But what I was looking for
was progress.
690
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,960
PRESS MURMUR
691
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,800
Roy Keane is now making
the decisions with Ireland.
692
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,960
In November 2013,
his country appointed him
693
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,960
their new Assistant Manager.
694
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,960
We've had a lovely few days,
the hotel's been lovely.
695
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,000
We've had footballs.
It's been great, bibs, everything.
696
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,960
It's been... major progress.
697
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,960
GENTLE LAUGHTER
698
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,000
Shock was an understatement.
I thought it was disgraceful.
699
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,960
The biggest regret would be
my incident with Neil Ruddock.
700
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,960
It wasn't the image
I wanted to give to people.
701
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,960
Many times I went on
the football pitch to hurt players,
702
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,960
that was my job, but I never went
out to injure a player.
703
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:59,960
MUSIC: 'Shook Ones (Part II)'
by Mobb Deep
704
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,960
What sort of culture did you walk
into when you walked into Arsenal?
705
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,960
The majority of the players
was English,
706
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,960
but through the months,
through the years,
707
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,960
I find players
who really love the club.
708
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:27,000
Arsenal was really important.
Arsenal was part of their blood.
709
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,960
From day one,
I knew United was the club for me.
710
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,640
From the first minute.
711
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,960
They kind of stood for everything
I stood for,
712
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,000
and that's trying to be the best,
improving all the time,
713
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,960
trying to win for the supporters.
714
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,960
And it suited me.
I think it suited...
715
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,960
Man United just sat right with me.
716
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,960
Which was the best Arsenal team
you played in?
717
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,960
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
718
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,960
Which season?
719
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,960
It's gonna be really difficult
for a season
720
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,960
because I started
with some fantastic players
721
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,160
and I finished
with some unbelievable players.
722
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,480
If you had to pick one?
723
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:01,960
The unbeaten team.
724
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,960
That... The Invincibles.
725
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,960
I don't like saying that bloody word
but, erm...
726
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,960
they were pretty strong at the time.
727
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,960
That perfect season
began explosively.
728
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,960
The clubs' mutual contempt
culminated
729
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,800
in the notorious
Battle Of Old Trafford.
730
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,640
TYLDESLEY: Vieira's off!
731
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,960
Ooh, he's not happy
with Van Nistelrooy!
732
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,960
Oh! Would you believe it!
CROWD ROARS
733
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,960
This is getting out of hand.
734
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,960
We haven't heard the last of this.
735
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,960
I don't think that was one
of the most...
736
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,960
No, I don't...
.. proudest moment for Arsenal...
737
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:41,960
Right, right, right.
738
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,960
..how we behaved
on the pitch at that day.
739
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,960
The referee lost it
a little bit during the game.
740
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,960
That's not the excuse because
you should never react like that.
741
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,000
But there was a lot of tension,
frustration
742
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,320
because when you play
at Old Trafford...
743
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,960
you have decisions
going on your way,
744
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:58,960
and that's the way it is.
745
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,960
And the same down
at Arsenal at home.
746
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,960
Yeah, but not as much as United.
747
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:03,960
No, no.
No?
748
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,960
Definitely. Definitely.
The same when you go to Arsenal.
749
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,480
No, if you...
Referee's decisions, absolutely.
750
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:10,960
No, I think it's only natural.
United...
751
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,320
Yeah, but United is different.
I don't know. I don't know.
752
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,640
You feel like you play against
a fantastic football club,
753
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,320
fantastic players, but...
754
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,960
every decision was on United's side.
The big incidents went against you.
755
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,000
Yes, and that gives you
a frustration.
756
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,800
But to run off to a player
and start jumping in his face.
757
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,960
Yeah, but that was a bad reaction.
Shocking.
758
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,960
That's an understatement.
I thought it was disgraceful.
759
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,960
Imagine...
I will not go that far.
760
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,960
But to be jumping
in a player's face, you know? No...
761
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,960
You lose your head
and you make a decision...
762
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,960
I don't remember
too many players jumping
763
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,640
in other players' faces,
I have to say.
764
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:42,960
Yeah, it was Van Nistelrooy.
765
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,640
If it was somebody else, it was
because it was not gonna happen.
766
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:50,960
OK.
He... contribute on my sending-off.
767
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,960
And that was, for me,
difficult to accept.
768
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,640
You certainly didn't do too much
wrong. I don't think...
769
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:56,960
I didn't do nothing wrong.
770
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,960
I don't think Ruud did too much
wrong, to be honest with you,
771
00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:01,960
but I think the referee...
Again, we are on about the pressure.
772
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:06,000
Yeah. We're on about the pressure
for the players... the manager...
773
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,960
Can you imagine the officials?
If you were a referee out there.
774
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,960
I know the top referees
wanna ref the top games...
775
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,960
Would you have fancied
United-Arsenal?
776
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,960
I'm not sure.
Especially at Old Trafford.
777
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,480
Or obviously at Highbury.
778
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,960
But like I said,
get frustrated all you want,
779
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,640
to be jumping in players' faces
is unacceptable.
780
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,960
Four Arsenal players received bans
totalling nine games.
781
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:33,960
The club were fined ยฃ175,000,
it remains a record amount.
782
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,960
We have a responsibility as well
as a player to help the referee.
783
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,160
And one of them
is to behave properly. Yeah.
784
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:43,960
And I think Ruud
or even Martin or myself,
785
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,160
we didn't help the referee that day.
Lauren wasn't... exactly...
786
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,960
Yeah, you can mention Lauren
and I can mention Giggs. Giggsy.
787
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,320
I can mention Roy Keane.
788
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:51,960
I was nowhere near that.
789
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,960
I was quite surprised
you wasn't there.
790
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,480
I behaved myself that day
and regret it!
791
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,640
BOTH LAUGH
792
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,640
Arsenal went on
to win the Fair Play Award.
793
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,960
More significantly, that controversy
fuelled their greatest ever season.
794
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,960
They were the first team
in the modern era
795
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,640
to win the title
without losing a match.
796
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,960
CROWD ROARS
797
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,000
Sir Alex Ferguson wanted
to sign you, didn't he?
798
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,480
That was a good compliment.
799
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:19,960
Yeah.
800
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,960
Patrick Vieira signs for United.
No.
801
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,960
No?
No.
802
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,480
Never?
Never.
803
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:27,960
Keane and Vieira?
In the same midfield?
804
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,960
At Arsenal?
805
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,800
HE LAUGHS
806
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,000
OK, we try and pick the best team
between the two of them?
807
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,960
Yeah? You happy with that?
Yeah. Let's go, then.
808
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,320
We start with the goalkeepers.
809
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:45,960
David Seaman, top goalkeeper,
810
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,960
but I'd have Peter in there
every day of the week.
811
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,960
I am gonna give you that one,
the first one. Yeah. That was easy.
812
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,960
Right back?
813
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:54,960
To be honest, I quite like Lauren
814
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,960
because he's really good
defensively, he liked to go forward.
815
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,960
I didn't like the guy that much,
Lauren,
816
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,640
but I wouldn't hold it
against you putting him in the team,
817
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:04,960
so, I'll give you that one.
818
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,960
You give me that one?
We'll go with Lauren.
819
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:07,960
Left back?
820
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,960
I think that's gonna be
a quick one as well.
821
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,960
Yeah, Denis, here we go.
OK.
822
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,320
You'd have Cole over Denis Irwin?
823
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:15,960
Every day, I think.
824
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,960
We're looking after what the left
back can bring to the team. Exactly.
825
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,480
Defensively and going forward.
Exactly.
826
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,960
I believe that...
BOTH LAUGH
827
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,960
We'll come back to that.
Let's go with ones we've agreed on,
828
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,960
the keeper, the right back.
Centre halves...
829
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,960
You can't have a team
without Jaap Stam as a centre-half.
830
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,960
I give you that one.
Stam, for me, was... unbelievable.
831
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,960
We'll go with this one.
We'll go with this one.
832
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,960
OK. I'd be quite happy to give up...
833
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,640
give you maybe Tony Adams
for his leadership skills,
834
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,960
and the fact that he could play,
don't get me wrong.
835
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,960
He can play as well.
Yeah, he can play.
836
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,960
Something obvious...
837
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,960
Ronaldo has to be part of...
838
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,960
Straight on with it?
839
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,960
Straight on with it.
Right side or left side?
840
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,960
We'll go left.
We can move him around anywhere.
841
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,960
If Denis Irwin's playing,
he can get up outside him.
842
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,960
Yeah, yeah.
PATRICK LAUGHS
843
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,160
You'd have to have Becks.
Over Ljunberg?
844
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,960
Over Pires,
I don't think so though.
845
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,800
You have Pires on the right
instead of Beckham?
846
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:14,960
Jesus, Patrick.
847
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,960
Beckham, he will give you...
goals...
848
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,960
and he's good on free kicks.
849
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:20,960
And he can run.
And he can run.
850
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,480
He worked hard.
He can play.
851
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,960
What you will need is somebody
with a bit more flair, who can play.
852
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,960
I absolutely disagree with you,
but...
853
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,480
we can't pick everybody.
854
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,960
I suppose it's very difficult
to leave Henry out.
855
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,960
He was fantastic.
No getting away from that.
856
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,960
As a modern striker,
Henry can do everything.
857
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,960
He has to be in there.
858
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,960
Because he's...
859
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,960
The best striker in the last...
Yeah.
860
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,640
..20 years in the Premier League.
861
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,480
I want Ruud in the team.
862
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,960
Because it's Henry,
I'll go with Eric.
863
00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:01,960
But I can't leave Ruud.
864
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,960
I'm upset with that one.
865
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,960
Patrick, I'd put you in the team.
866
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,960
For the way you played,
your presence,
867
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,800
actually scored a few goals,
I think, along the way.
868
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:12,960
Especially against United.
869
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,960
Obviously, you were a big character
for Arsenal.
870
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,960
You can pick the other midfielder,
don't let me down.
871
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,960
BOTH LAUGH
872
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,960
No, no, no, no.
You would be in my team, definitely.
873
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:22,960
Shall I put myself in, then?
874
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,960
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There we go.
875
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,960
I'll probably be sent off.
876
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,960
Can you imagine?
You'll be sent off one week,
877
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,960
I'll be sent off the next week.
878
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,960
One last choice.
879
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,960
You'd have Denis Irwin
in every day of the week. No.
880
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,960
Every day.
No.
881
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,160
Never injured.
Ashley is...
882
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,960
Never heard any off-the-field stuff.
883
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,480
Never on with the contracts.
Ah...
884
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:44,960
All that comes into it.
No, no.
885
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,960
All that comes into it.
Does not come into it.
886
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,960
It's whoever gets there first.
BOTH LAUGH
887
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,960
But I'd have Denis every day
of the week. No chance.
888
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,960
Would Arsene Wenger
have signed Roy Keane?
889
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:05,960
Erm...
890
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,960
That's a good question.
HE LAUGHS
891
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,960
To be honest, football-wise,
I would say yes, no doubt about it.
892
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:16,960
But there would be a big question
about how Roy is... outside.
893
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,960
Yeah, that was a...
That was a bad one.
894
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,960
I have to say, that was a bad day.
I felt bad over that, definitely.
895
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,960
Do you think that intensity...
896
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,320
was your undoing?
Er... With?
897
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,800
With Ireland and with United?
Possibly so.
898
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,960
Nah, there's no doubt about it,
but...
899
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:34,960
..that's part of my DNA.
900
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,960
There's no point in saying I wish
I'd stepped back from that and...
901
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,800
You have to get in the ring.
902
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,800
CROWD ROARS
903
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,480
TYLDESLEY: Roy Keane! Who else?
904
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,640
A captain's goal
from Patrick Vieira.
905
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,960
They led and inspired.
906
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:53,960
Two winners with a shared weakness
for losing it.
907
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:54,960
REFEREE BLOWS WHISTLE
908
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,960
Retaliation and retribution added up
to 21 red cards between them.
909
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:02,960
A taxi to the dark side
was never too far away.
910
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,000
What's the biggest regret
of your career?
911
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,960
Probably snapping my cruciate
at Leeds.
912
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,960
CROWD ROARS
913
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,960
A massive disappointment, obviously,
to be out of the game for a year.
914
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,960
There's your pal.
915
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:25,960
My pal, yes.
Ruddock.
916
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,960
You got sent off for that,
didn't you?
917
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,160
Should I take a pen and shake...
Did you?
918
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:33,960
The biggest regret, no doubt, would
be my incident with Neil Ruddock.
919
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,960
Is that the one run-in
you had with him, was it?
920
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,960
Yeah, that's the one,
I spat on his face,
921
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,960
I think I'd be sent off, yeah.
Yeah.
922
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,960
To go that low,
it wasn't a good day.
923
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,960
It wasn't the image
that I wanted to give to people.
924
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,960
Were you provoked?
Yeah, but that's part of the game.
925
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:58,960
CROWD NOISE
926
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,960
Would you do anything differently
927
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,960
with the Haaland revenge... tackle?
Erm...
928
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,480
HE EXHALES DEEPLY
929
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,960
No.
930
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,960
Many times I went on the football
pitch to hurt players, absolutely,
931
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,960
that was my job.
And players went out to hurt me.
932
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,960
But I never went out
to injure a player.
933
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,960
And I've never said that
in my career.
934
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,000
But I did go to hurt people
because that was my job.
935
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,960
Haaland was one
for shouting his mouth off.
936
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:26,960
But I had plenty of examples
937
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,960
where lads would try
and give me stick.
938
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:29,960
Again, my Irish background,
939
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,960
the Irish gypsy, and a few players
would throw that at me.
940
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,160
Stupid talk.
In the heat of the moment.
941
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:36,640
CLAMOUR
942
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:37,960
KEANE: Fuckin' hell...
INDISTINCT
943
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,960
GRAHAM POLL: Roy! Roy!
944
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,640
I'll fucking see you out there.
I'll see you out there!
945
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:46,960
'Ey, 'ey, 'ey, Roy. Roy, Roy.
946
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,960
I'll see you out there.
Shootin' your mouth off, you.
947
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,960
Every week,
making out you're a nice guy.
948
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:51,960
Come on, Roy! Come on.
949
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,960
'Come on...'
950
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,960
Who started it?
951
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,320
I started it.
952
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,960
HE LAUGHS
953
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,960
I was cool, I was really calm,
I was smiling at him,
954
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,960
and then he lost it.
955
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,960
Fucking picking on Gary Neville.
I'll talk to him.
956
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:08,960
He can pick on one of us.
957
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,320
'As we were going out for the start,
I'd forgotten my armband.
958
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:12,960
'When I came out,
I heard all this...'
959
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,960
I think I'd seen you
at the top of the tunnel,
960
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:15,960
probably having a go at Gary.
961
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,960
And maybe one or two others.
962
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,960
And what really annoyed me
that night was, again,
963
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,000
whether I was right or wrong
is that...
964
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,000
you were picking on Gary.
You know?
965
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,960
I was looking at Nicky Butt,
and I think Wes Brown,
966
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:28,960
and thinking, what are you...
967
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,960
You were almost picking
on the weakest link.
968
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:32,960
So that's what got my back up.
969
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,960
That there was two or three of you
ganging up on Gary, simple as that.
970
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,960
But where I wanted to make the point
to him at that time was like
971
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,960
when we played at Old Trafford,
he was like tackling,
972
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,960
was fouling Robert Pires,
and was doing it on purpose.
973
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,960
And I said, "Listen,
we're not at Old Trafford here.
974
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:46,960
"This is Highbury."
975
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:47,960
Were you as polite as that?
976
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:48,960
You know me.
977
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,960
OK. Yeah.
OK.
978
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,960
So...
PATRICK LAUGHS
979
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,320
So I said to him,
"If... you touch Robert,
980
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,320
"I will come after you."
Right.
981
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,000
So I was... with respect.
Protecting one of your teammates.
982
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,960
Protecting the teammate, yeah.
Putting a marker down.
983
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,960
Yeah, it's true. You wasn't there.
You wasn't there.
984
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,960
I had to go back and get my
armband, like I said.
985
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,480
I'd forgot it. You get involved
with something you don't know.
986
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,160
I came at the end,
but I still had to walk past you
987
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,160
to get down to the start
of the tunnel, so...
988
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,960
You remember what you say to me, no?
I...
989
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,960
"Excuse me, Patrick,
don't be speaking
990
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:20,960
"to one of my teammates like that."
991
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,960
PATRICK LAUGHS
992
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,960
I don't quite remember. Erm...
993
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,800
I can't quite remember,
I'm sure you're gonna remind me.
994
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,960
Yeah, of course I remember
because I remember that. Fire away.
995
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,320
You said to me,
"Yeah, just leave him alone.
996
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,960
"You pretend to be this kind of nice
person, and that you're not.
997
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,960
"We will see on the pitch."
998
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,480
BOTH LAUGH
Yeah, of course.
999
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,480
You lost it, and, er...
1000
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,960
And then when we started to come out
of the tunnel, I quite liked it.
1001
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:49,960
Maybe so.
So I was expecting you...
1002
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,960
..to lose it with me on the pitch.
I didn't, thank God.
1003
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:53,960
Nothing more in here.
1004
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:54,960
Guys!
Thank you.
1005
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,960
As for what happened next...
1006
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,960
MAN: Let's go, leave it in here.
1007
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,960
There were no charges,
no handshakes,
1008
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,000
and United won 4-2.
1009
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:07,960
It would be Keane and Vieira's
last Premier League meeting.
1010
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,960
I wanted to stay at Arsenal,
1011
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,960
I wanted to finish
my career at Arsenal.
1012
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,000
I was upset.
Of course I was upset.
1013
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,960
And I did shed a few tears in my car
outside the training ground
1014
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:24,960
for about two minutes.
1015
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:35,960
By May 2005, the Keane-Vieira cartel
was coming to end.
1016
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,960
Jose Mourinho's Chelsea
were Premier League champions.
1017
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,960
The FA Cup was the season's
consolation prize.
1018
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,960
CROWD NOISE
1019
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,960
He didn't know it then,
1020
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,960
but this would be Roy Keane's
last major occasion
1021
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:52,960
in a Manchester United shirt.
1022
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,480
TYLDESLEY: Vieira to win it.
1023
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:56,800
Yes!
1024
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,960
He didn't know it then,
but the game's decisive penalty
1025
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:05,800
would be Patrick Vieira's curtain
call as an Arsenal player.
1026
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,960
How you won that game,
I'll never know.
1027
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,960
Your last kick of a ball,
obviously, winning the cup,
1028
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:14,960
no doubt a big thrill for you.
1029
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,960
But I do look back on that game
and seeing how well United played.
1030
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,160
For us to hammer a team
like Arsenal,
1031
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,960
in terms of possession and chances,
very rarely happened.
1032
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,960
United was all over us.
1033
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,960
We accept that United
was better than us on the day,
1034
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,160
so our job was not to concede
a goal.
1035
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,960
But United with Ronaldo, Rooney,
create chances
1036
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,960
and hit the bar
and all the stuff like that.
1037
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:39,960
And, of course, with the luck,
1038
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,960
we went into the penalties
and that was like...
1039
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,960
We all need a bit of luck.
That was our day.
1040
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:45,960
Did you have an idea
you might be leaving then?
1041
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:46,960
Was there any talk, no?
1042
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,960
No, I didn't have any idea
that was the last game,
1043
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,960
and I wasn't thinking
about leaving at all.
1044
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:57,480
The club really didn't fight
or didn't really ask me to stay.
1045
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,800
I wanted the club to say,
"No. We don't want you to go,
1046
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,160
"I want you to stay,"
like they did before.
1047
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,960
Put it this way, when they accept
the offer, that says enough.
1048
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,960
Of course. Yeah.
So I knew that...
1049
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,000
it was time for me to go.
1050
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,960
Well, not a bad way to finish,
was it? No.
1051
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,960
It's not a bad way,
leaving Arsenal with the FA Cup.
1052
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,640
It was fantastic for me.
1053
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,320
It's better to be lucky than good,
sometimes.
1054
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:18,960
Yeah, but that's part of the game.
1055
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,960
Yeah, of course.
PATRICK LAUGHS
1056
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,960
I was really close, leaving
to Madrid, the year before I left.
1057
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,960
The deal was done
between the two clubs,
1058
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,960
so when it was the time for me
to leave,
1059
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,960
erm... I change my mind because I...
1060
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,000
I wanted to stay at Arsenal.
1061
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,960
I wanted to finish my career
at Arsenal.
1062
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,960
I didn't see any reason to leave.
1063
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,960
I don't know if it was
lack of courage to go. Yeah.
1064
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,640
If I knew I was leaving
the year after,
1065
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:49,960
I was going to Madrid.
1066
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,960
I wouldn't say I've got regrets
about not going abroad.
1067
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,960
But I think it would have been
a nice experience
1068
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:56,960
to play for a different team.
1069
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,960
When my contract ran out
on a couple of occasions,
1070
00:48:59,960 --> 00:49:02,960
again, spoke to a few clubs, erm...
1071
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,960
Bayern Munich, Juventus, erm...
1072
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:07,960
And, yeah, I was very tempted,
I have to say,
1073
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,960
but like yourself,
maybe there was a bit of fear.
1074
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,960
Contracts were agreed,
but I just never...
1075
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,960
never felt strong enough to say I'm
gonna go for it because... Strong.
1076
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,160
..I was very happy at United.
1077
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,960
Somebody who used to like me
a few years ago.
1078
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,960
BOTH LAUGH
1079
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,960
Not any more.
I'm sure deep inside he loves you.
1080
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,800
Four months after Arsenal's skipper
was sold to Juventus,
1081
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,480
Manchester United's captain
had left the club.
1082
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,960
REPORTER: Roy Keane has gone
by mutual agreement.
1083
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,960
Following criticism
of his teammates,
1084
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:44,960
Sir Alex Ferguson
decided Roy Keane had to go.
1085
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:49,800
When you went into his office
on November 18th, 2005,
1086
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,960
that Friday morning,
did you expect him to say...
1087
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:53,960
"Time's up"?
Yeah, no,
1088
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,960
I'd talked to my lawyer
the night before.
1089
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,960
The manager said to me, "Listen,
I think we've come to the end."
1090
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:00,960
I said, "You're right. We had."
1091
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,320
I'd obviously lost respect
for him.
1092
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:03,480
He'd lost respect for me.
1093
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:04,960
Whatever had gone on
in the few weeks...
1094
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,800
Alex Ferguson thanked me for my
11 and a half years at the club,
1095
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,000
I had to remind them I'd been there
for 12 and a half.
1096
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,960
Erm...
1097
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:14,960
Again, I think that was all part
of the game, you know.
1098
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,960
And I felt what would be best
for Man United,
1099
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,960
if they felt I was some sort
of loose cannon, shall we say,
1100
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:19,960
was to leave.
1101
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,960
What was your emotion walking out
of that door?
1102
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:23,960
Erm...
1103
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,960
I kind of thought...
I just knew that was business.
1104
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,960
Got my boots...
drove out, and as I was driving out,
1105
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,960
obviously, players were coming
into training.
1106
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,960
I think one or two of them
thought what's going on here?
1107
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:40,960
Maybe I'm not well or something.
1108
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,960
Erm... Yeah.
And drove back.
1109
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,960
Again, don't think I'm some sort
of machine here,
1110
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,960
and I'm, you know...
1111
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,960
I was upset.
Of course I was upset.
1112
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,960
And I did shed a few tears
in my car
1113
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,480
outside the training ground
for about two minutes.
1114
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,960
But also told myself I need to,
you know,
1115
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,960
I need to get on with my life now
and get home and get on with it.
1116
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,960
Did Sir Alex time it right with you?
1117
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,800
In letting you go?
Absolutely not.
1118
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:07,960
I walked out with nothing.
1119
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,960
I had no club lined up,
and I was injured.
1120
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:11,960
I did had to remind David Gill
that I got injured
1121
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,960
breaking my foot
playing for Man United.
1122
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,960
Yet there they were saying,
"Oh, you're injured again."
1123
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,960
Well... Huh! I was injured
cos I was putting tackles in.
1124
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,480
FERGUSON: They paid up
his whole contract.
1125
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,960
We gave him a testimonial
the following season, 75,000.
1126
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:28,960
We did everything we could
1127
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,960
to honour the fact
he was a great player for us.
1128
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,960
I could play for Man United easily
another couple of years.
1129
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:35,960
In the middle of the park?
1130
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,960
He says you were starting
to think like Peter Pan.
1131
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,160
Yeah, well, that's...
Again, I...
1132
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,800
Having said that,
people are entitled to opinion.
1133
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,960
What was key for any player
when you get to 34, 35
1134
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,960
is stay surrounded
by the top players.
1135
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,960
I'm not saying I would have
dominated games,
1136
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:51,640
but could I have played
for Man United?
1137
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:52,960
Look at my last game for Man United.
1138
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,480
It was at Liverpool,
and I think I done OK that day.
1139
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,960
So this idea
that I was getting frustrated
1140
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,960
that I wasn't allowed
to get forward?
1141
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:02,960
I think I was
the most relieved man around.
1142
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,960
He says you didn't like
the John Magnier issue.
1143
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,800
I thought that was wrong,
absolutely.
1144
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,960
It can't be good
for the football club, can't be.
1145
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,960
If a manager of a football club
is, you know,
1146
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,640
having legal trouble or taking legal
action against major shareholders...
1147
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,960
If people don't think that was...
1148
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,960
had a negative effect
on what was going on at the club,
1149
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,960
then they are living
in cuckoo land.
1150
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,960
What did Sir Alex's recent book
tell you about him?
1151
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,160
Mm...
There was no surprises for me.
1152
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,960
I'd have been disappointed
if he hadn't said what he said.
1153
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,960
REPORTER: Front left, please,
Sir Alex!
1154
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,160
PRESS CLAMOUR
1155
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,960
The manager's obviously accused me
of trying to manage Man United,
1156
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,960
you know, behind his back.
But what I did do, I did...
1157
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:45,480
you know,
I managed the dressing room.
1158
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,960
That was my job.
I tried to look after the players,
1159
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,960
I tried to nail players
who had stepped out of line,
1160
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:50,960
that was my job.
1161
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,960
How would you describe
your relationship today?
1162
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,640
Absolutely non-existent.
1163
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,480
Of course it is.
Do you feel let down?
1164
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,960
Erm... No, no.
1165
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:02,960
No.
1166
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:03,960
Nothing...
1167
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,960
Nothing surprises me these days
with, erm... with that man.
1168
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,960
CAMERA BEEPS
SHUTTER SNAPS
1169
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:16,960
PATRICK CHUCKLES
1170
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,000
Arsenal haven't won a trophy
1171
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:23,640
since you lifted the FA Cup in 2005
on your final day in the shirt.
1172
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:24,960
Why?
1173
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,960
When you look at Arsenal,
the way you play,
1174
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:28,480
they play fantastic football,
1175
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,960
but I think you need
to win games playing badly,
1176
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,960
and I don't think Arsenal
are capable of that at the moment.
1177
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,320
And maybe as well
at the lack of leadership.
1178
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,960
They may not have a Tony Adams,
they don't have a Martin Keown,
1179
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:41,960
they don't have a Sol Campbell.
1180
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:46,960
These kind of players who can be
a leader on and off the field.
1181
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,960
What does Man United mean to you?
1182
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,960
Obviously,
I felt raw after I left there,
1183
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,960
but I've eased off now
a bit in terms of...
1184
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,960
any sort of bad feeling
I had towards them.
1185
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,960
Obviously, that helps
that Ferguson's gone now.
1186
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,960
And I have a couple
of season tickets now
1187
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,960
and I go and watch them with my son,
you know, as much as we can,
1188
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,960
so, no, I have that warmth
towards Man United again.
1189
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:08,960
And it did leave me
for a year or two I have to say,
1190
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,960
which I feel bad saying because
in my every minute of every hour
1191
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,960
of every day I spent
at that football club,
1192
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:15,960
I have to say, I really enjoyed it.
1193
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,960
I feel very fortunate
to have played for them.
1194
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,960
I think I've never seen you
like that.
1195
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,960
Ah, you were stressing me out, man.
1196
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:26,960
That was Neville's fault again.
Look at your eyes.
1197
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:28,960
I've never seen your eyes like that.
It is, yeah. Look.
1198
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,960
That's assault, that is.
I'm always defending myself. Yeah.
1199
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:36,960
You'd like to see it happening now
with certain players.
1200
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:38,640
You don't see it.
We don't see it.
1201
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:39,960
That's why I think the game changed.
1202
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,960
If I watched Arsenal-United,
1203
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:43,960
yeah, they will still play
really good football,
1204
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,960
but not this kind of excitement...
1205
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:47,960
But they're almost too nice
to each other, aren't they?
1206
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:49,960
Yeah.
Too much respect for each other.
1207
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:56,000
WENGER: 'A great rivalry gets
the best out of the big competitors.
1208
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:57,960
'People who can handle the pressure
1209
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,960
'and can raise their game
when it's needed.
1210
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,960
'These are the great sportsmen.
There were two of them.'
1211
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:12,960
How is it, Patrick, eh?
Happy days.
1212
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:14,960
Happy days. Yes. Happy days.
1213
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,960
And who did win the war?
1214
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:18,960
Me, of course.
HE LAUGHS
1215
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:20,960
I'm convinced I did.
1216
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,960
Patrick won a few battles,
no doubt about it,
1217
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,960
and he was a very, very
good opponent,
1218
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,960
but if I had to play Patrick...
1219
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,960
in ten games, I'm convinced I'd
dominate him in about eight of them.
1220
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:42,960
I was asking myself about you,
how you are outside the field?
1221
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,640
On the field, I knew how you was.
1222
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,960
But outside the field, I always
had this kind of question mark.
1223
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,960
And I think we are quite similar.
1224
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,960
We could open and talk about
everything and nothing.
1225
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:54,960
We have our own opinion,
1226
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,960
and our own view
on different things.
1227
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,960
But I'm not disappointed at all
how you are as a person
1228
00:55:59,960 --> 00:56:02,960
because how you are as a person is
the same way you are on the field.
1229
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,960
I really loved fighting against you
1230
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,960
because, of course,
there's a mutual respect there
1231
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,160
for what you have accomplished as
a player, as a captain, as a leader,
1232
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,960
and that's why when they asked me
to do this, I said yes straightaway.
1233
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:18,960
I knew
when I was playing against you,
1234
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:20,320
I had to be at my very, very best,
1235
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,960
and for that I appreciate it
and I enjoyed our battles together.
1236
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,960
And more importantly
now I meet you away from footballing
1237
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:27,960
and I still have that respect
for you.
1238
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,960
It was always a pleasure,
and an honour playing against you.
1239
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,960
Thank you, Patrick.
No problem.
1240
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,960
I think it's a weaker looking team
then actually my United team,
1241
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:49,960
if I'm being honest with you.
1242
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,960
Like, Pires has no mind getting
in there, do you not think?
1243
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:54,960
You think so?
1244
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:58,960
Oh, Becks...
I don't...
1245
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:00,960
Bergkamp has to be in the team.
ROY CHUCKLES
1246
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:02,960
No, seriously.
He's not made it.
1247
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,000
Bergkamp has to be in team.
But he doesn't fly.
1248
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,960
What does that say about him?
He doesn't fly, it doesn't matter.
1249
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,160
It does, you play a lot of your
games away from home.
1250
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:12,960
I know, but...
Pre-season tours.
1251
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,960
Give him an injection
and he will fly.
1252
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:16,800
An injection...
PATRICK CHUCKLES
1253
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,960
Pre-season tours,
he can't make them.
1254
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,960
No, I... You can't believe
he isn't on the team,
1255
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:23,960
and I can't believe
Ruud van Nistelrooy...
1256
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:25,960
Ruud's record.
1257
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:27,960
He can score goals,
yeah, I give you that.
1258
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:29,960
That's the hardest part
of football - scoring goals.
1259
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:31,960
I reckon his record
must be up there...
1260
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,960
Is it not up there
with Henry's for goals?
1261
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:36,320
I don't think so.
1262
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,960
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