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If we are to take and get in place then, maybe.
Welcome, everyone, to this press conference with The Pirate Bay.
Yes, we can start with questions.
What would a conviction mean for the Pirate Bay?
-Nothing. -What will they do?
They failed to take down the site once once. They are welcome to fail again.
This is not about the Pirate Bay going to trial, but about politics.
They try to control the internet by buying off those in power.
So this is about about the fight for a free internet.
-Yes, go ahead. -Where is Fredrik?
Well, I don't really know.
More questions?
/MOBIL RINGER/
-You're not blowing this now, are you? -I'll try.
-Good. See you tonight. Kiss, kiss. -Kiss.
-Good luck. -Thank you.
-How can you be so sure? -Mom... You don't need to be worried.
I just get so worried considering... Those are such long prison sentences.
This can't happen.
Okay, okay, okay. Love you.
Love you too. Bye. Bye.
I bought this one. Why don't you try it?
-Well... A bit long, maybe. -No, then.
It is very nice.
Then I'll get myself together and be on my way. So.
Pixie! /DOG IS HEARD PAWING/
-We'll see you. -Mm.
-Welcome home. -Thank you.
-So you still have the car? -Yes.
-And it's going well? -Yes.
You, uh...
It got really stupid last time on the trip, and...
I mean, we don't really not agree on much, but...
Well, we can just sort of forget about everything, and then...
we get through this, and... Shit, let's show these motherfuckers now.
Why are we here?
That's a damn good question.
Nice, isn't it?
This is great.
It is absolutely perfect.
-Peter, how do you feel about the trial? -It feels good. I'm sure it does.
-That's good. -And Anakata?
/APPLAUSE AND CHEERS/
Good morning, parties and representatives. You are called to the main hearing today
-in a case of suspicion of of complicity in copyright infringement.
Then we welcome Chamber Prosecutor Håkan Roswall to present his motion.
Thank you.
Today, the Pirate Bay is is the largest file-sharing service in the world.
It is financed by advertising, and the four defendants have been responsible for its operation.
In doing so, they have encouraged others to commit copyright infringements.
We request a sentence of one year in prison
-and claims for damages of 117 million.
What are the defendants' positions to the claim?
Carl Lundström contests the prosecution's claim.
Fredrik Neij contests the prosecution's claim.
Gottfrid Svartholm Warg contests the prosecution's claim.
Peter Sunde contests the prosecution's claim.
I have always had a a long interest in computers.
-and technology, and the internet and...networks.
-Now I got off my feet a bit. It's... -When did the site start?
In 1652 by Charles IX.
/MANY LAUGH/
-Yes, that was fun. -Thank you.
Long interest in technology, and it has always been my driving force...
I just wanted to be involved and... create a big, cool site.
And so we welcome up Peter Sunde "Koolmisoppi".
-Coli soup. -Yes.
What are your views on copyright?
Yes, I do think that it can be problematic, perhaps.
In what way?
Yes, the fact that we have to be here today shows that there is a problem.
No, we never talked purpose. I don't know what the purpose was from their side.
Fredrik told me that he would create the biggest site in the world.
I thought that sounded very good, so I decided to invest.
That is my purpose. Nothing else.
You have been described in the press described as a computer genius.
How would you yourself describe your skills?
I possess a certain technical competence. That is true.
"Some technical competence", what does it mean when compared to others?
I don't think this is the right time, place or medium
-to post my CV.
But now I am asking you, so could you please answer?
I am happy to avoid answering. The question seems too value-laden.
-Too value-oriented? -Yes.
When did you first meet IRL?
Was...was that IRL you said?
-In real life. -We don't like that expression.
We say AFK, away from keyboard. It's real with the internet. Thank you, Mr. President.
What will happen to the Pirate Bay?
Gottfrid! How did you feel on your first day?
Boring. The prosecution's strategy seems to be to lie in the most boring way possible.
117 million can be seen as a huge sum. Is it really justified?
The people I represent have the largest claim for damages, 93 million.
There are five films over six months.
This is an indication of the enormous damage done by the Pirate Bay. Thank you, Mr. President.
Can you just help me understand?
-Ana... -What?
How could you not encrypt your computer?
What does it matter now?
After the Cold War you have to find new enemies.
-Terror, piracy. -and drugs.
-Have you seen this? -Should you become Facebook friends with Jim?
Check. Days after the charges were filed. he changed his job status.
-To one of the companies suing us. -Are you kidding?
And...that year he declared a capital income of 890,000.
-Well above his usual police salary. -But that's fucking insane!
Then he moved from his rental apartment in Solna to a house in Bromma.
Who the hell wants to live in Bromma?
A police officer investigating The Pirate Bay has gotten a job with one of the plaintiffs
-film company Warner Bros. One of the the defendants' defense lawyer says
-that it is a scandal if the job was already in question during the investigation.
It is true. I talked to the Warners.
It is unimaginably stupid.
The defendant has reported it, but nothing will come of it.
-But it doesn't look good. -I know.
The trial is also about about public opinion.
If we can find something that shifts the focus on them and put us on the offensive...
-Let me know if you think of anything. -Okay. Talk to you soon.
Revenues
Only losers pay taxes
I have to go.
Will they drop the case now?
We have filed a police report, so we will see.
-Have a good time, Mom. -Goodbye, my boy. Good luck to you.
But you...
I thought of one small thing. I have been following the trial.
Even if you are right on the merits.
you have a tendency to come across as a bit of a pussy.
Yes, you do. You seem so sensible.
Nobody likes a know-it-all. I just wanted to say it.
-Hi there. Love you. -You too.
Is it true that you earned so much?
It just shows how desperate the prosecution side is when they want to smear us.
That they actually have no indictment. Thank you, Mr. President.
That the Pirate Bay was illegal, I never thought that.
But even the name Pirate Bay
-implies illegal activity?
No, not for me. To me it just sounded good.
And so I am technically driven, not ideologically.
Mm. Well... Then I would like that we play the clip
-linked to exhibit A 4321, please.
You at the MPAA, the Anti-Piracy Bureau, Bush and Bodström, or whoever gave the order
-about this pathetic attack, stop messing with the internet!
It is a war you will never win.
Now we fire the big gun and say: In your face, Hollywood!
/CHEERS AND APPLAUSE IN THE VIDEO/ Monique: We can pause there. Thank you very much.
Fredrik, this shows that that you - or you in this case-
-actively working against Hollywood, which shows intent.
Or how would you explain this yourself?
But then I would rather talk about the prosecutor's internal PM
-dated approximately six weeks before the raid on PRQ, where you write
-and I quote: "The people behind The Pirate Bay are no fools."
"They have, in my opinion, studied Swedish copyright law"-
-"and know exactly how to stay within the law."
"In my opinion, it is not possible to get a court to convict them."
End quote.
I wonder, of course, what made the the prosecutor to change his mind?
-New findings put the case in a new light. -Or external pressure.
-Or that the prosecutor is a clown! -The judge demands order in the courtroom!
I remind you to speak only when you are are spoken to and to keep a good tone.
-You can go ahead. -Thank you.
So the beta is flying. It is a 128-bit encrypted VPN tunnel.
We are publishing it now and linking to the front page of the Pirate Bay.
-How much does it cost? -40-50 bucks a month.
It's not that bad. So much for Ipred.
-They have closed it down? -Shut down what?
Our police report against Jim. Now they're going to they will allow him to testify.
-The trial is becoming more and more bizarre. -You should be able to appeal.
I do not know if you can appeal against a refusal.
I listened to the radio for a while. It seems to have gone very well.
-But what the hell... -What is it?
Pirates have a new service that hides your IP address when you download.
-Okay. -Hey, look...
You have to pay 5 euros. They can pay for this, but not for a movie.
No matter what we do, they're gonna make something up.
But that doesn't mean that you should stop trying.
How many times did you did you ask me out before I said yes?
-Five. -And why didn't you give up then?
Because I fight for justice. I am doing it.
It's a damn lucky thing, then.
Welcome to today's main hearing in the so-called Pirate Bay case.
Let me start by talking about about the agreement we see on the screen.
How do you feel about your signature being there?
I guess it's like I've said before, technology has always been my focus.
Not legal documents that I don't read, because I don't understand them anyway.
All revenue from the advertisements went directly to the operation of the site.
I also had my own business until Attorney General Roswall-
-dismantled the whole thing.
Yes, but... in this email dated April 1, 2006, Oded writes:
"I am very worried that we risk
-"a business with a turnover of three million dollars a year."
Yes, as you say, it is dated April 1. /SCRAT/
Here we see another email from Gottfrid to Oded
-dated January 20, 2006. And I will read it to the court:
"Can you WU me $3,000 from my share of the TPB profits?"
TPB is then The Pirate Bay.
And WU stands for Western Union.
A way to transfer money across national borders.
Pirate Bay's income comes from advertisements
-and paid from the company Eastpoint to Random Media BVI
-with an address in Geneva.
From there, the money is passed on
-to the tax haven British Virgin Islands.
And according to the bank it appears that Peter Sunde has transfers
-from Random Media in the amounts of 68 750, 92 500
-and SEK 37 500.
Yes, what is your view on this?
There is nothing that I remember.
-It is nothing that you remember? -No.
Well, that's convenient that you have just forgotten it.
Now let's calculate how much money we have earned.
We start with an exponential function. N. Then we choose a random number.
Between 100 and 52 000.
Square root of that, and you'll know what Monique's soul costs.
-The answer is... -Fan, not pi.
/MONIQUE IS HEARD LAUGHING AND TALKING/
So, how do you think it's going?
Yes, thank you. It's going well. How are you doing?
The same. I just didn't realize that you you could lie that much in a courtroom.
Interesting...interpretation.
The fact that Roswall constantly confuses bit and prey is laughable.
Sorry, what did you say?
Only that Roswall's technical skills is so rudimentary.
Shall we?
Goodbye, Monique.
Goodbye, Gottfrid.
A little too confident for my taste.
/FROM THE COMPUTER/
Hi, this is Peter. Can you meet me a little earlier tomorrow?
Good morning, parties and representatives. Welcome to today's main hearing.
-We'll start straight away with... -Mr. Chairman.
I'm sorry to interrupt, but new knowledge has reached me
-which I feel obliged to serve the Court immediately.
What is it?
I have been informed that representatives for the plaintiffs - Pontén and Wadsted
-and also the President himself, is a member of the SFU:
Swedish Association for Copyright. In addition, you are on the board of
-for the Swedish Association for industrial property rights.
Both these organizations represent copyright holders.
They work to meet their interests. So they are lobby groups.
In my opinion it is nothing less than a scandal
-that the judge has concealed his conflict of interest from the court.
Is there a risk that the trial be annulled on the grounds of bias?
That is for others to judge. I'm only in the in the SFU to keep myself updated
-on the subject, which is complicated. I do not have time for more questions now.
What do you think what do you think the consequences of this might be?
The SFU is a lobby group that works for stronger copyright.
We do not have the resources to hire private investigators
-like in some American movie, to find out what kind of person the judge is.
The trial against The Pirate Bay took an unexpected turn
-when the judge was accused of bias.
The defense has filed a complaint against the judge
-and considers that there are grounds for a review.
/DOOR SIGNAL/
/JUMPING STEPS ARE HEARD/
I worked hard to shut down the Pirate Bay and all I get is this T-shirt!
But hey, here's to Norström, then! For being so bad. Or biased.
-Cheers! -Cheers!
SFU receives funding from the Swedish Film industry, which is involved in suing us.
-Everyone has each other's backs. -It's embarrassing that they are so amateurish!
Norström was handpicked for the target, in violation of the draw rules.
The "process" all over. I feel like Josef K.
-You are. You are Josef K! -The trial must be annulled.
-There can be no alternative. -The question is whether they can do it again.
/MOBILE-SIGNALS/
Good evening. The Pirate Bay trial will not be retried in the District Court.
The judge was not disqualified, says Court of Appeal, but they criticize the judge
-for not disclosing his involvement in copyright issues.
We need to stop the defendants' activity, but also mark it.
I would like to add that...
...The Pirate Bay has caused major goodwill damage to the studios.
-through the fact that their films have been available alongside advertising
-for sexual services, among others.
As far as I know we have never seen the like...
to a more extensive infringement of copyright.
In all the technical complexity surrounding The Pirate Bay
-in the end, it is still a fairly simple question:
Can anyone be held responsible for the actions of others?
The answer is no. It is as simple as that.
Just lie on your back and let the fried sparrows
-Fly in the mouth - how it works The Pirate Bay for its users.
But when the feeling of satiety sets in, of course the interest decreases...
-to buy a DVD or go to the movies. It follows from common sense.
The defendants spit on the authors and tell them to go to hell.
Therefore, I advocate that the court imposing a very severe sentence.
There is a risk that the court will listen more to the capital here.
-than the little person. Integrity from the court is what is required.
Should you dig up the road because someone is speeding?
That is what this judgment is about.
Svartholm Warg stated in his interrogation
-that the weekly price for an ad was SEK 3 500.
If you then simply make a mathematical application
-that's 224,000 SEK a week.
If you then take that figure times 52, the number of weeks per year
-well, then the revenue of the the business at SEK 11.6 million.
Then the Pirate Bay is not a non-profit but a pure business activity.
That concludes the main hearing in Case B 13301-06.
The so-called Pirate Bay case. We now enter into deliberations.
Judgment to be given by April 17, 2009. Thank you very much.
Interesting way to dispose of taxpayers' money.
Does any of this matter if the whole thing is corrupt?
-Yes, it's fucking crazy! - Isn't it? -Mm.
How does it feel?
If there's one thing Hollywood has taught us it's that the good guys always win.
/CALL TONE/
Hi, you've reached Lee. Please leave me a message and I'll get back to you...
-Has it started? -Soon.
-Has it started, or? -Any moment now.
-Reporter: Hello and welcome. -Now.
We are broadcasting live as the verdict in the Pirate Bay case is about to be announced.
And now the verdict is in.
So... Let's see.
The defendants have intentionally committed a criminal offense.
They have acted negligently, and their complicity involves liability.
Gottfrid Svartholm Warg is sentenced to one year in prison.
Fredrik Neij to ten months. Peter Sunde to eight months.
And Carl Lundström to four months. And to pay joint and several damages
-of SEK 46 million. Thus, the court considers the court considers that the defendants have cooperated
-with the operation and further development of The Pirate Bay website.
They have had knowledge that copyrighted material has been file-shared
-and has willfully promoted the copyright infringement of others.
The Court therefore finds that the defendants are guilty of aiding and abetting the crime.
/MOBIL RINGER/
/SMS-SIGNAL/
/EXHALES/
-Where is the champagne? -I have it set up in the bathroom.
-Congratulations on the judgment. -Thank you.
Good news!
Well, well, well! I guess the next step is to shut down the site.
Yes... It's a bit tricky.
What do you mean?
No one knows where the servers are.
They seem to be scattered in several countries.
Is he serious?
So we have won...
...but nothing has changed?
In any case, it is now illegal.
-But we won, right? -What a fucking nightmare.
-What difference does it make? -None at all.
So we spent millions of dollars and several years...
Washington should have intervened immediately!
/THEY SHOUT IN EACH OTHER'S MOUTHS/
-Are you coming? -Mm.
-Interpol has pretty poor security. -What the hell, you hacked Interpol?
Pretty cool though that we are wanted.
-They have misspelled your name. -Mine? What does it mean?
-You should be able to travel. -Are you sure?
-Yes, I think so. -Where are you somewhere?
Are you from Interpol, or what?
No, but I am in an acquaintance's family cottage.
I don't know how wanted we are really. We've been to Bangkok.
-And why do you have it? -Just a little business. - Isn't it?
-What do you do then, Gotte? -Nothing special. I've got to go.
Bye. - He looked pretty stressed, Gotte. How do you think he is?
I do not know. It's probably just stress when it's crunch time.
-What is he working on now? -It's a big deal for Wikileaks again.
How long is the limitation period?
Five years, I think.
-You should be able to cure that. -Mm.
-You, we'll be in touch. -Take care of yourself. Hey. Uh...
Then we welcome Henrik Pontén. He is is a lawyer at the Antipiratbyrån
-and worked on the Pirate Bay case last year. /BLOG/
No, you guys!
We can disagree on many things, but here we stand for free speech.
We welcome the first questioner.
If I were to download something, and then admit it, what would you do?
I would ask you to stop. /SCRATCH/
/BUANDEN/ You have invited me to talk, then I would like to do so.
/DE TYSTNAR/ Thank you. Uh...
We're joined by Peter, one of the founders of The Pirate Bay.
You are on Skype, because if you were here you could be arrested.
What is it like to be on the dark side of the internet?
I think I belong to the bright side.
I may be a pirate and a hacker, but I fight for a good cause.
Pass, please.
/HARD DOOR KNOCKING/
Excuse me for a moment.
-Get out of the car. -Why? -Why?
Polis!
-Peter Sunde? -No.
Put on your dojos.
This is really unnecessary!
Lee! Call your mom! Get back in the car. You're gonna be okay.
Let's go.
Everything.
/THE BIRD IS CHIRPING/
/KVITTRAR/
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