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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,793 --> 00:00:04,713 [dramatic music] 2 00:00:04,796 --> 00:00:05,714 ♪ ♪ 3 00:00:05,797 --> 00:00:07,507 - The subprime mortgage crisis 4 00:00:07,590 --> 00:00:09,217 has left millions of Americans 5 00:00:09,217 --> 00:00:10,885 struggling to stay 6 00:00:09,217 --> 00:00:10,885 in their homes 7 00:00:10,969 --> 00:00:13,221 and Wall Street is feeling 8 00:00:10,969 --> 00:00:13,221 their pain. 9 00:00:13,304 --> 00:00:16,516 - This is the biggest point 10 00:00:13,304 --> 00:00:16,516 drop that has ever been seen. 11 00:00:16,599 --> 00:00:18,893 - If Lehman can go down 12 00:00:16,599 --> 00:00:18,893 what does that mean about 13 00:00:18,977 --> 00:00:20,603 the health of the American 14 00:00:18,977 --> 00:00:20,603 financial system? 15 00:00:20,687 --> 00:00:22,939 - We're in the midst of 16 00:00:20,687 --> 00:00:22,939 a serious financial crisis, 17 00:00:23,022 --> 00:00:24,441 and the federal government 18 00:00:24,524 --> 00:00:26,067 is responding 19 00:00:24,524 --> 00:00:26,067 with decisive action. 20 00:00:26,151 --> 00:00:27,402 - These guys have 21 00:00:26,151 --> 00:00:27,402 been gambling 22 00:00:27,485 --> 00:00:29,279 with the house money 23 00:00:27,485 --> 00:00:29,279 for years 24 00:00:29,279 --> 00:00:31,156 and it's our job 25 00:00:29,279 --> 00:00:31,156 to bail them out? 26 00:00:31,239 --> 00:00:33,283 - They lived by 27 00:00:31,239 --> 00:00:33,283 the free market, 28 00:00:33,283 --> 00:00:34,909 let them die by 29 00:00:33,283 --> 00:00:34,909 the free market. 30 00:00:34,909 --> 00:00:37,245 - The largest swindle 31 00:00:34,909 --> 00:00:37,245 in Wall Street history, 32 00:00:37,245 --> 00:00:40,957 an alleged $50 billion Ponzi 33 00:00:37,245 --> 00:00:40,957 scheme by Bernard Madoff. 34 00:00:40,957 --> 00:00:42,250 - Every corporate official 35 00:00:42,250 --> 00:00:43,668 who has chosen 36 00:00:42,250 --> 00:00:43,668 to commit a crime 37 00:00:43,752 --> 00:00:45,420 can expect 38 00:00:43,752 --> 00:00:45,420 to face the consequences. 39 00:00:45,503 --> 00:00:47,130 - Belong in jail! 40 00:00:47,130 --> 00:00:48,631 - You belong in jail, you... 41 00:00:47,130 --> 00:00:48,631 Both: Criminal! 42 00:00:48,715 --> 00:00:50,800 - The party is over. 43 00:00:50,884 --> 00:00:53,803 [dramatic music] 44 00:00:53,887 --> 00:01:00,935 ♪ ♪ 45 00:01:12,781 --> 00:01:15,825 ♪ ♪ 46 00:01:41,851 --> 00:01:43,228 - Why? 47 00:01:41,851 --> 00:01:43,228 all: Why? 48 00:01:43,311 --> 00:01:45,897 - It is the chosen word 49 00:01:43,311 --> 00:01:45,897 of the non-conformist, 50 00:01:45,980 --> 00:01:48,733 the defiant, 51 00:01:45,980 --> 00:01:48,733 and the visionary. 52 00:01:48,733 --> 00:01:51,111 If you are not afraid 53 00:01:48,733 --> 00:01:51,111 to ask why... 54 00:01:51,194 --> 00:01:52,320 - Why? 55 00:01:52,403 --> 00:01:54,906 - You can change 56 00:01:52,403 --> 00:01:54,906 whatever it is you want. 57 00:01:56,699 --> 00:01:58,243 - Why? 58 00:01:58,243 --> 00:01:59,410 Why? 59 00:01:59,494 --> 00:02:00,620 Why? 60 00:02:00,703 --> 00:02:02,956 ♪ ♪ 61 00:02:02,956 --> 00:02:05,917 - If there was any company 62 00:02:02,956 --> 00:02:05,917 that could make energy cool 63 00:02:05,917 --> 00:02:07,293 it was Enron. 64 00:02:07,377 --> 00:02:09,921 - The Texas energy broker 65 00:02:07,377 --> 00:02:09,921 trade electricity 66 00:02:09,921 --> 00:02:11,965 like any other commodity. 67 00:02:12,048 --> 00:02:14,134 A sophisticated trading 68 00:02:12,048 --> 00:02:14,134 operation 69 00:02:14,217 --> 00:02:16,803 buys and sells billions 70 00:02:14,217 --> 00:02:16,803 of dollars worth 71 00:02:16,803 --> 00:02:18,638 of energy every day. 72 00:02:18,638 --> 00:02:21,641 It's the largest company 73 00:02:18,638 --> 00:02:21,641 of its kind in the world. 74 00:02:21,641 --> 00:02:25,145 - Enron is a company 75 00:02:21,641 --> 00:02:25,145 that deals with everyone 76 00:02:25,228 --> 00:02:26,646 with absolute integrity. 77 00:02:26,729 --> 00:02:29,858 We play by all the rules. 78 00:02:26,729 --> 00:02:29,858 We stand by our word. 79 00:02:29,858 --> 00:02:32,318 We mean what we say. 80 00:02:29,858 --> 00:02:32,318 We say what we mean. 81 00:02:32,402 --> 00:02:34,821 - Ken Lay was 82 00:02:32,402 --> 00:02:34,821 the original CEO. 83 00:02:34,904 --> 00:02:37,740 He ran Enron 84 00:02:34,904 --> 00:02:37,740 when the company was created 85 00:02:37,824 --> 00:02:39,701 out of the merger 86 00:02:37,824 --> 00:02:39,701 of two pipeline companies. 87 00:02:39,784 --> 00:02:43,705 He seemed like the ultimate 88 00:02:39,784 --> 00:02:43,705 American success story. 89 00:02:43,705 --> 00:02:46,499 - Ken Lay hired Jeff Skilling 90 00:02:46,499 --> 00:02:49,168 to innovate 91 00:02:46,499 --> 00:02:49,168 into commodity trading. 92 00:02:49,168 --> 00:02:51,504 - Every year, 93 00:02:49,168 --> 00:02:51,504 every day, every week, 94 00:02:51,588 --> 00:02:53,089 you have to come up 95 00:02:51,588 --> 00:02:53,089 with new ideas. 96 00:02:53,172 --> 00:02:55,341 - He was very charismatic. 97 00:02:55,425 --> 00:02:58,052 When you heard 98 00:02:55,425 --> 00:02:58,052 a "rah-rah" speech of his 99 00:02:58,052 --> 00:03:00,013 you just felt energized. 100 00:03:00,096 --> 00:03:02,056 I've likened him 101 00:03:00,096 --> 00:03:02,056 to a cult leader 102 00:03:02,056 --> 00:03:04,851 because he really could get 103 00:03:02,056 --> 00:03:04,851 you to drink the Kool-Aid. 104 00:03:04,934 --> 00:03:06,519 - We are doing 105 00:03:04,934 --> 00:03:06,519 the right thing. 106 00:03:06,519 --> 00:03:10,231 We are working to create open, 107 00:03:06,519 --> 00:03:10,231 competitive, fair markets. 108 00:03:10,315 --> 00:03:12,901 And in open, 109 00:03:10,315 --> 00:03:12,901 competitive, fair markets 110 00:03:12,901 --> 00:03:15,570 prices are lower and customers 111 00:03:12,901 --> 00:03:15,570 get better service. 112 00:03:15,570 --> 00:03:17,447 - You're the good guys? 113 00:03:17,447 --> 00:03:20,325 - We are the good guys. 114 00:03:17,447 --> 00:03:20,325 We are on the side of angels. 115 00:03:20,408 --> 00:03:22,994 - The pendulum in business, 116 00:03:20,408 --> 00:03:22,994 as in many other aspects, 117 00:03:23,077 --> 00:03:25,747 tends to swing too far 118 00:03:23,077 --> 00:03:25,747 in either direction, 119 00:03:25,830 --> 00:03:28,458 and this was an era 120 00:03:25,830 --> 00:03:28,458 of de-regulation. 121 00:03:28,541 --> 00:03:31,252 - The de-regulation of the 122 00:03:28,541 --> 00:03:31,252 energy industry in California 123 00:03:31,336 --> 00:03:34,297 is causing one problem 124 00:03:31,336 --> 00:03:34,297 after another. 125 00:03:34,297 --> 00:03:35,798 - Enron was very good 126 00:03:35,798 --> 00:03:38,801 at weakening 127 00:03:35,798 --> 00:03:38,801 existing rules and regulations 128 00:03:38,801 --> 00:03:40,178 and then taking advantage 129 00:03:40,261 --> 00:03:42,096 of the space 130 00:03:40,261 --> 00:03:42,096 between the rules. 131 00:03:42,180 --> 00:03:43,598 - In the midst 132 00:03:42,180 --> 00:03:43,598 of this heat wave 133 00:03:43,681 --> 00:03:46,643 an energy emergency has been 134 00:03:43,681 --> 00:03:46,643 declared in California today. 135 00:03:46,643 --> 00:03:48,269 - Californians could be 136 00:03:46,643 --> 00:03:48,269 spending 137 00:03:48,269 --> 00:03:50,146 part of another day 138 00:03:48,269 --> 00:03:50,146 in the dark. 139 00:03:50,313 --> 00:03:52,690 - The energy crisis 140 00:03:50,313 --> 00:03:52,690 in California 141 00:03:52,774 --> 00:03:54,901 was not just 142 00:03:52,774 --> 00:03:54,901 a force of nature. 143 00:03:54,984 --> 00:03:57,153 It was a result 144 00:03:54,984 --> 00:03:57,153 of market manipulation 145 00:03:57,153 --> 00:04:00,281 by energy generators 146 00:03:57,153 --> 00:04:00,281 and producers like Enron. 147 00:04:00,281 --> 00:04:02,659 ENRON TRADER: I want you 148 00:04:00,281 --> 00:04:02,659 guys to 149 00:04:02,659 --> 00:04:03,826 get a little creative... 150 00:04:03,826 --> 00:04:04,327 PLANET OPERATOR: Okay. 151 00:04:04,327 --> 00:04:05,245 ENRON TRADER: ...and come 152 00:04:04,327 --> 00:04:05,245 up with a reason 153 00:04:05,245 --> 00:04:05,995 to go down. 154 00:04:05,995 --> 00:04:07,789 PLANT OPERATOR: Okay, so 155 00:04:05,995 --> 00:04:07,789 we're just coming down for 156 00:04:07,789 --> 00:04:10,083 some maintenance, like a 157 00:04:07,789 --> 00:04:10,083 forced outage type thing? 158 00:04:10,083 --> 00:04:11,084 ENRON TRADER: Right. 159 00:04:11,084 --> 00:04:12,877 PLANT OPERATOR: 160 00:04:11,084 --> 00:04:12,877 And that's cool? 161 00:04:12,877 --> 00:04:14,504 ENRON TRADER: Hopefully. 162 00:04:14,712 --> 00:04:16,047 - They were gaming 163 00:04:14,712 --> 00:04:16,047 their system, 164 00:04:16,047 --> 00:04:17,715 withholding power 165 00:04:16,047 --> 00:04:17,715 at the borders, 166 00:04:17,715 --> 00:04:19,509 taking power plants offline, 167 00:04:19,592 --> 00:04:21,803 and it was devastating 168 00:04:19,592 --> 00:04:21,803 to California's economy. 169 00:04:21,803 --> 00:04:23,429 ENRON TRADER: They had to do 170 00:04:21,803 --> 00:04:23,429 a rolling blackout through 171 00:04:23,429 --> 00:04:24,764 the town and there was 172 00:04:23,429 --> 00:04:24,764 a red light there 173 00:04:24,764 --> 00:04:26,891 he didn't see. 174 00:04:27,642 --> 00:04:28,643 ENRON TRAADER 2: 175 00:04:27,642 --> 00:04:28,643 That's beautiful. 176 00:04:28,643 --> 00:04:29,644 ENRON TRADER 1: 177 00:04:28,643 --> 00:04:29,644 This is causing animosity 178 00:04:29,644 --> 00:04:31,354 throughout the state now. 179 00:04:31,354 --> 00:04:33,231 Cars are blowing up. 180 00:04:33,398 --> 00:04:34,899 - They had strategies 181 00:04:34,899 --> 00:04:36,818 for raping and pillaging 182 00:04:34,899 --> 00:04:36,818 California 183 00:04:36,901 --> 00:04:39,570 called "Death Star," 184 00:04:36,901 --> 00:04:39,570 "Get Shorty," "Ricochet." 185 00:04:39,654 --> 00:04:41,948 - As the lights went out 186 00:04:39,654 --> 00:04:41,948 on the West Coast 187 00:04:41,948 --> 00:04:44,909 Enron's wholesale revenues 188 00:04:41,948 --> 00:04:44,909 quadrupled 189 00:04:44,993 --> 00:04:48,079 from $12 billion 190 00:04:44,993 --> 00:04:48,079 to 48 billion, 191 00:04:48,079 --> 00:04:50,123 and doubled again 192 00:04:48,079 --> 00:04:50,123 three months later. 193 00:04:50,206 --> 00:04:51,791 - Every time there was 194 00:04:50,206 --> 00:04:51,791 a shortage 195 00:04:51,791 --> 00:04:53,084 or a little bit 196 00:04:51,791 --> 00:04:53,084 of a price spike 197 00:04:53,167 --> 00:04:54,794 it's always collusion, 198 00:04:53,167 --> 00:04:54,794 or conspiracy, or something. 199 00:04:54,794 --> 00:04:56,129 It always makes people 200 00:04:54,794 --> 00:04:56,129 feel better that way. 201 00:04:56,212 --> 00:04:57,964 - But you know as well 202 00:04:56,212 --> 00:04:57,964 as I do that the price-- 203 00:04:57,964 --> 00:04:59,257 it's nice for a business. 204 00:04:59,340 --> 00:05:01,634 You're in the business 205 00:04:59,340 --> 00:05:01,634 of making money 206 00:05:01,718 --> 00:05:03,344 for your shareholders, right? 207 00:05:01,718 --> 00:05:03,344 As a company. 208 00:05:03,428 --> 00:05:05,013 - Yeah. 209 00:05:05,096 --> 00:05:07,307 - So, you would be foolish, 210 00:05:05,096 --> 00:05:07,307 as you say, 211 00:05:07,390 --> 00:05:09,976 to turn down 212 00:05:07,390 --> 00:05:09,976 the kind of money 213 00:05:09,976 --> 00:05:11,936 you could make 214 00:05:09,976 --> 00:05:11,936 this past winter in California. 215 00:05:11,936 --> 00:05:13,688 Isn't there-- 216 00:05:13,688 --> 00:05:15,648 - I think you put words 217 00:05:13,688 --> 00:05:15,648 in my mouth there. 218 00:05:15,648 --> 00:05:17,150 - What happened 219 00:05:15,648 --> 00:05:17,150 in California 220 00:05:17,233 --> 00:05:19,694 was a flashing red signal 221 00:05:19,694 --> 00:05:22,989 about the nature 222 00:05:19,694 --> 00:05:22,989 of what Enron was all about. 223 00:05:22,989 --> 00:05:24,657 But what brought them down 224 00:05:24,657 --> 00:05:26,576 was just the sheer brazenness 225 00:05:26,659 --> 00:05:28,870 and the scope 226 00:05:26,659 --> 00:05:28,870 of their manipulation. 227 00:05:28,953 --> 00:05:31,331 - The SCC 228 00:05:28,953 --> 00:05:31,331 is now investigating 229 00:05:31,331 --> 00:05:33,207 Enron's accounting procedures 230 00:05:33,291 --> 00:05:35,668 after the company admitted 231 00:05:33,291 --> 00:05:35,668 it inflated earnings 232 00:05:35,668 --> 00:05:37,920 by more than 233 00:05:35,668 --> 00:05:37,920 half a billion dollars. 234 00:05:38,004 --> 00:05:39,547 - Enron, the OFEs. 235 00:05:39,547 --> 00:05:41,049 - Enron had businesses 236 00:05:41,049 --> 00:05:43,217 that were losing 237 00:05:41,049 --> 00:05:43,217 immense amounts of money. 238 00:05:43,217 --> 00:05:45,887 And so the company CFO, 239 00:05:43,217 --> 00:05:45,887 Andy Fastow, 240 00:05:45,970 --> 00:05:49,223 found extremely creative 241 00:05:45,970 --> 00:05:49,223 accounting methods 242 00:05:49,223 --> 00:05:52,226 in order to hide the losses, 243 00:05:49,223 --> 00:05:52,226 hide the debt, 244 00:05:52,226 --> 00:05:55,772 show investors profits 245 00:05:52,226 --> 00:05:55,772 that didn't actually exist yet 246 00:05:55,772 --> 00:05:58,399 in order to please Wall Street 247 00:05:55,772 --> 00:05:58,399 and keep its stock price high. 248 00:05:58,399 --> 00:06:01,277 - This week it was revealed 249 00:05:58,399 --> 00:06:01,277 that in the very same period 250 00:06:01,277 --> 00:06:02,987 when an in-house 251 00:06:01,277 --> 00:06:02,987 whistle-blower 252 00:06:03,071 --> 00:06:05,573 named Sherron Watkins 253 00:06:03,071 --> 00:06:05,573 was privately warning 254 00:06:05,656 --> 00:06:07,241 Chairman Ken Lay that... 255 00:06:12,497 --> 00:06:14,916 Lay was assuring 256 00:06:12,497 --> 00:06:14,916 employees that... 257 00:06:18,419 --> 00:06:21,756 And in fact urging them 258 00:06:18,419 --> 00:06:21,756 to buy more company stock. 259 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,342 - Leadership knew 260 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,342 that we had cooked the books, 261 00:06:24,425 --> 00:06:26,969 and yet Ken Lay, 262 00:06:24,425 --> 00:06:26,969 through the fall of 2001, 263 00:06:27,053 --> 00:06:29,180 was still selling stock, 264 00:06:27,053 --> 00:06:29,180 telling others to buy, 265 00:06:29,263 --> 00:06:30,515 but he was dumping. 266 00:06:30,598 --> 00:06:33,142 - They got theirs, 267 00:06:30,598 --> 00:06:33,142 but we're not gonna get ours. 268 00:06:33,226 --> 00:06:35,520 - Wooten and many others 269 00:06:33,226 --> 00:06:35,520 who work for Enron 270 00:06:35,603 --> 00:06:38,189 or a subsidiary saw 271 00:06:35,603 --> 00:06:38,189 their retirement nest eggs, 272 00:06:38,189 --> 00:06:40,358 made up heavily 273 00:06:38,189 --> 00:06:40,358 of Enron shares, 274 00:06:40,358 --> 00:06:41,984 wiped out this month. 275 00:06:41,984 --> 00:06:44,987 Worse, they are powerless 276 00:06:41,984 --> 00:06:44,987 to stop the hemorrhaging 277 00:06:44,987 --> 00:06:46,572 because Enron has blocked them 278 00:06:46,656 --> 00:06:49,325 from making any changes 279 00:06:46,656 --> 00:06:49,325 in their retirement plans. 280 00:06:49,325 --> 00:06:51,494 - When I saw the stock drop 281 00:06:51,494 --> 00:06:53,538 I called to sell, 282 00:06:53,538 --> 00:06:55,998 and was told 283 00:06:53,538 --> 00:06:55,998 that I was locked out. 284 00:06:57,667 --> 00:07:02,380 So I had to stand by 285 00:06:57,667 --> 00:07:02,380 and watch my savings disappear. 286 00:07:02,463 --> 00:07:04,674 - Many of the nation's 287 00:07:02,463 --> 00:07:04,674 top banks and mutual funds 288 00:07:04,674 --> 00:07:07,218 were also heavily invested 289 00:07:04,674 --> 00:07:07,218 in Enron. 290 00:07:07,301 --> 00:07:09,595 The company is widely expected 291 00:07:07,301 --> 00:07:09,595 to become 292 00:07:09,679 --> 00:07:12,098 the biggest bankruptcy case 293 00:07:09,679 --> 00:07:12,098 in history. 294 00:07:12,181 --> 00:07:14,725 - Enron was the moment 295 00:07:14,725 --> 00:07:18,813 that we realized that so much 296 00:07:14,725 --> 00:07:18,813 of the business world 297 00:07:18,896 --> 00:07:20,731 was not what we thought. 298 00:07:20,815 --> 00:07:24,819 - Something is very wrong 299 00:07:20,815 --> 00:07:24,819 in the case of Enron. 300 00:07:24,902 --> 00:07:28,072 A lot of knowledgeable people 301 00:07:24,902 --> 00:07:28,072 on Wall Street 302 00:07:28,072 --> 00:07:29,449 were either duped 303 00:07:29,449 --> 00:07:32,285 or purposefully 304 00:07:29,449 --> 00:07:32,285 went along for the ride 305 00:07:32,285 --> 00:07:35,246 at the expense 306 00:07:32,285 --> 00:07:35,246 of thousands of others. 307 00:07:35,246 --> 00:07:38,249 This is not a story 308 00:07:35,246 --> 00:07:38,249 of a few bad people. 309 00:07:38,249 --> 00:07:40,126 This is a story 310 00:07:38,249 --> 00:07:40,126 of a lot of bad people. 311 00:07:40,209 --> 00:07:44,255 They were aided and abetted 312 00:07:40,209 --> 00:07:44,255 by accountants, by lawyers. 313 00:07:44,338 --> 00:07:45,923 There was no cop 314 00:07:44,338 --> 00:07:45,923 on the beat. 315 00:07:45,923 --> 00:07:48,092 You gotta put limits 316 00:07:45,923 --> 00:07:48,092 on the greed 317 00:07:48,092 --> 00:07:50,136 that drives a whole 318 00:07:48,092 --> 00:07:50,136 lot of people. 319 00:07:50,136 --> 00:07:52,597 - Enron's Kenneth Lay 320 00:07:50,136 --> 00:07:52,597 and Jeffrey Skilling 321 00:07:52,597 --> 00:07:54,098 were once among 322 00:07:52,597 --> 00:07:54,098 the most celebrated 323 00:07:54,182 --> 00:07:55,933 business leaders in America. 324 00:07:56,017 --> 00:07:58,603 Tonight 325 00:07:56,017 --> 00:07:58,603 they are convicted felons. 326 00:07:58,686 --> 00:08:01,397 - Enron was just 327 00:07:58,686 --> 00:08:01,397 the first domino. 328 00:08:01,481 --> 00:08:04,525 It was followed by WorldCom, 329 00:08:01,481 --> 00:08:04,525 by HealthSouth, 330 00:08:04,609 --> 00:08:08,154 by Tyco, by one accounting 331 00:08:04,609 --> 00:08:08,154 fraud after another, 332 00:08:08,154 --> 00:08:09,864 on, and on, 333 00:08:08,154 --> 00:08:09,864 and on. 334 00:08:09,864 --> 00:08:12,158 This belief 335 00:08:09,864 --> 00:08:12,158 that giant corporations 336 00:08:12,241 --> 00:08:15,536 are going to be restrained 337 00:08:12,241 --> 00:08:15,536 from running amok 338 00:08:15,620 --> 00:08:17,872 was revealed in this decade 339 00:08:17,955 --> 00:08:19,707 to be basically 340 00:08:17,955 --> 00:08:19,707 a fairy story 341 00:08:19,790 --> 00:08:22,001 we tell ourselves at night 342 00:08:19,790 --> 00:08:22,001 so we can sleep better. 343 00:08:22,084 --> 00:08:25,922 - No executive is too prominent 344 00:08:22,084 --> 00:08:25,922 or too powerful 345 00:08:26,005 --> 00:08:29,675 and no scheme to defraud 346 00:08:26,005 --> 00:08:29,675 is too complex or too fancy 347 00:08:29,759 --> 00:08:31,511 to avoid 348 00:08:29,759 --> 00:08:31,511 the long arm of the law. 349 00:08:32,094 --> 00:08:34,222 [applause] 350 00:08:34,305 --> 00:08:37,058 - Thank you, all. 351 00:08:34,305 --> 00:08:37,058 Please be seated. 352 00:08:37,141 --> 00:08:40,144 I am here today 353 00:08:37,141 --> 00:08:40,144 because we are taking action 354 00:08:40,144 --> 00:08:43,231 to bring many thousands 355 00:08:40,144 --> 00:08:43,231 of Americans 356 00:08:43,231 --> 00:08:45,566 closer to owning a home. 357 00:08:45,566 --> 00:08:48,236 - Home ownership 358 00:08:45,566 --> 00:08:48,236 had been expanding 359 00:08:48,319 --> 00:08:51,030 during the early and mid 2000s. 360 00:08:51,113 --> 00:08:53,199 A part of this comes from 361 00:08:53,199 --> 00:08:54,909 President Bush's 362 00:08:53,199 --> 00:08:54,909 administration 363 00:08:54,909 --> 00:08:57,036 really making this a priority. 364 00:08:57,036 --> 00:08:59,121 - One of the biggest hurdles 365 00:08:57,036 --> 00:08:59,121 of home ownership 366 00:08:59,205 --> 00:09:01,749 is getting money 367 00:08:59,205 --> 00:09:01,749 for a down payment. 368 00:09:01,749 --> 00:09:03,876 And so today I am honored 369 00:09:01,749 --> 00:09:03,876 to be here 370 00:09:03,876 --> 00:09:06,963 to sign a law that will help 371 00:09:03,876 --> 00:09:06,963 many low-income buyers 372 00:09:07,046 --> 00:09:09,298 to overcome that hurdle 373 00:09:07,046 --> 00:09:09,298 and to achieve 374 00:09:09,382 --> 00:09:13,219 an important part 375 00:09:09,382 --> 00:09:13,219 of the American Dream. 376 00:09:13,302 --> 00:09:15,263 - This was everything Americans 377 00:09:13,302 --> 00:09:15,263 were supposed to want, 378 00:09:15,346 --> 00:09:17,598 the security and stability 379 00:09:15,346 --> 00:09:17,598 of owning their home. 380 00:09:17,682 --> 00:09:19,267 And so you were supposed 381 00:09:17,682 --> 00:09:19,267 to borrow money. 382 00:09:19,350 --> 00:09:21,060 Maybe you were even supposed 383 00:09:19,350 --> 00:09:21,060 to stretch a little bit. 384 00:09:21,060 --> 00:09:23,604 Because after all, 385 00:09:21,060 --> 00:09:23,604 since the Great Depression 386 00:09:23,646 --> 00:09:26,482 on average nationwide 387 00:09:23,646 --> 00:09:26,482 home prices had only gone up. 388 00:09:26,566 --> 00:09:28,317 - If there's one area 389 00:09:26,566 --> 00:09:28,317 of the economy 390 00:09:28,317 --> 00:09:30,778 that has stood its ground 391 00:09:28,317 --> 00:09:30,778 it's the housing market. 392 00:09:30,861 --> 00:09:33,990 Still a hot market fueled 393 00:09:30,861 --> 00:09:33,990 by low interest rates 394 00:09:34,073 --> 00:09:36,659 in hopes that real estate will 395 00:09:34,073 --> 00:09:36,659 offer not only a safe haven, 396 00:09:36,659 --> 00:09:38,828 but will continue 397 00:09:36,659 --> 00:09:38,828 to gain value. 398 00:09:38,911 --> 00:09:40,955 - John and Camille Carter 399 00:09:38,911 --> 00:09:40,955 are joining 400 00:09:40,955 --> 00:09:43,624 the growing number 401 00:09:40,955 --> 00:09:43,624 of first-time home buyers. 402 00:09:43,624 --> 00:09:44,792 Convinced the time is right 403 00:09:44,792 --> 00:09:46,669 thanks to dropping 404 00:09:44,792 --> 00:09:46,669 interest rates. 405 00:09:46,752 --> 00:09:48,170 - We pre-qualified 406 00:09:46,752 --> 00:09:48,170 a week ago 407 00:09:48,254 --> 00:09:49,505 and they've went 408 00:09:48,254 --> 00:09:49,505 down since then 409 00:09:49,589 --> 00:09:51,465 so it's kind of amazing. 410 00:09:51,549 --> 00:09:53,175 We're like, "We better buy 411 00:09:51,549 --> 00:09:53,175 something this week." 412 00:09:53,175 --> 00:09:54,969 - Everyone was talking 413 00:09:53,175 --> 00:09:54,969 about property. 414 00:09:55,052 --> 00:09:57,305 They all saw buying a house 415 00:09:55,052 --> 00:09:57,305 as the kind of, 416 00:09:57,305 --> 00:09:59,056 the main way to get wealth. 417 00:09:59,140 --> 00:10:00,683 House prices kept going up 418 00:10:00,683 --> 00:10:03,853 so it seemed like a no-risk, 419 00:10:00,683 --> 00:10:03,853 no-brainer thing to do. 420 00:10:03,936 --> 00:10:06,230 - Across the U.S. 421 00:10:03,936 --> 00:10:06,230 mortgage applications 422 00:10:06,230 --> 00:10:08,274 hit an all-time 423 00:10:06,230 --> 00:10:08,274 high last week. 424 00:10:08,357 --> 00:10:09,942 - Current homeowners 425 00:10:08,357 --> 00:10:09,942 taking advantage 426 00:10:10,026 --> 00:10:11,736 of lower interest rates too, 427 00:10:11,736 --> 00:10:13,446 refinancing their homes 428 00:10:13,529 --> 00:10:15,406 as Americans seek 429 00:10:13,529 --> 00:10:15,406 to lower payments 430 00:10:15,406 --> 00:10:17,617 and put more cash 431 00:10:15,406 --> 00:10:17,617 in their wallets. 432 00:10:17,700 --> 00:10:19,243 - This business has gotten 433 00:10:17,700 --> 00:10:19,243 so competitive 434 00:10:19,327 --> 00:10:21,037 and so aggressive 435 00:10:19,327 --> 00:10:21,037 because everyone wants 436 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,539 a piece of the American Dream, 437 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,539 the housing market. 438 00:10:23,623 --> 00:10:26,208 And there was this rampant fear 439 00:10:23,623 --> 00:10:26,208 of missing out. 440 00:10:26,292 --> 00:10:28,252 People started flipping houses. 441 00:10:28,252 --> 00:10:29,879 They were quitting their jobs 442 00:10:29,962 --> 00:10:31,380 to buy houses 443 00:10:31,464 --> 00:10:32,923 and to sell them 444 00:10:31,464 --> 00:10:32,923 at a higher price. 445 00:10:32,923 --> 00:10:34,216 - I don't see a bubble. 446 00:10:34,300 --> 00:10:36,927 I see prices continuing 447 00:10:34,300 --> 00:10:36,927 to climb at a steady rate. 448 00:10:37,011 --> 00:10:39,055 - There was a sort 449 00:10:37,011 --> 00:10:39,055 of euphoria where 450 00:10:39,055 --> 00:10:42,391 the American Dream 451 00:10:39,055 --> 00:10:42,391 of owning a home converged 452 00:10:42,391 --> 00:10:45,978 with the American Dream 453 00:10:42,391 --> 00:10:45,978 of risk-free investment, 454 00:10:46,062 --> 00:10:49,523 or you might say the myth 455 00:10:46,062 --> 00:10:49,523 of risk-free investments. 456 00:10:49,607 --> 00:10:52,485 [tense music] 457 00:10:52,485 --> 00:10:56,155 - New numbers out tonight 458 00:10:52,485 --> 00:10:56,155 suggest more than ever 459 00:10:56,155 --> 00:10:58,699 that the housing sector 460 00:10:56,155 --> 00:10:58,699 of the American economy 461 00:10:58,783 --> 00:11:01,160 is something 462 00:10:58,783 --> 00:11:01,160 of a house of cards. 463 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,955 - The housing bubble started 464 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,955 to come undone in 2006, 2007, 465 00:11:04,955 --> 00:11:08,000 and suddenly people started 466 00:11:04,955 --> 00:11:08,000 to default, 467 00:11:08,084 --> 00:11:11,462 and then they started 468 00:11:08,084 --> 00:11:11,462 to default in big numbers. 469 00:11:11,462 --> 00:11:13,798 It really became 470 00:11:11,462 --> 00:11:13,798 a domino effect 471 00:11:13,881 --> 00:11:16,467 and that devastated 472 00:11:13,881 --> 00:11:16,467 whole communities. 473 00:11:16,550 --> 00:11:18,719 - From bad to worse 474 00:11:16,550 --> 00:11:18,719 in the mortgage meltdown 475 00:11:18,803 --> 00:11:21,013 home prices experience 476 00:11:18,803 --> 00:11:21,013 their biggest drop 477 00:11:21,013 --> 00:11:22,348 in more than 20 years. 478 00:11:22,348 --> 00:11:23,808 - Two out of ten 479 00:11:23,891 --> 00:11:26,185 who bought their homes 480 00:11:23,891 --> 00:11:26,185 in the last two years 481 00:11:26,185 --> 00:11:28,187 are already upside down. 482 00:11:28,270 --> 00:11:30,064 - There were good intentions 483 00:11:28,270 --> 00:11:30,064 in this country 484 00:11:30,147 --> 00:11:31,732 about increased 485 00:11:30,147 --> 00:11:31,732 home ownership, 486 00:11:31,816 --> 00:11:34,944 but in the last years 487 00:11:31,816 --> 00:11:34,944 of the bubble 488 00:11:35,027 --> 00:11:38,364 that's ground cover for some 489 00:11:35,027 --> 00:11:38,364 very pernicious activities. 490 00:11:38,447 --> 00:11:40,533 - In the last six months 491 00:11:40,533 --> 00:11:42,535 Americans have seen 492 00:11:40,533 --> 00:11:42,535 their investments shrink, 493 00:11:42,618 --> 00:11:44,537 their property values plummet, 494 00:11:44,537 --> 00:11:47,415 and the country edge closer 495 00:11:44,537 --> 00:11:47,415 towards a recession, 496 00:11:47,498 --> 00:11:48,874 and at the heart 497 00:11:47,498 --> 00:11:48,874 of the problem 498 00:11:48,958 --> 00:11:51,710 is something called 499 00:11:48,958 --> 00:11:51,710 the subprime mortgage crisis. 500 00:11:51,794 --> 00:11:54,880 - Loans made to borrowers 501 00:11:51,794 --> 00:11:54,880 with low credit scores 502 00:11:54,964 --> 00:11:57,133 or no money 503 00:11:54,964 --> 00:11:57,133 for a down payment 504 00:11:57,216 --> 00:12:00,469 are commonly called 505 00:11:57,216 --> 00:12:00,469 subprime mortgages, 506 00:12:00,553 --> 00:12:01,762 and the market for them 507 00:12:01,762 --> 00:12:04,265 has exploded 508 00:12:01,762 --> 00:12:04,265 in this country of late. 509 00:12:04,348 --> 00:12:06,892 - There's some decent aspects 510 00:12:04,348 --> 00:12:06,892 to subprime lending. 511 00:12:06,976 --> 00:12:08,602 It's an effort 512 00:12:06,976 --> 00:12:08,602 to reach people 513 00:12:08,602 --> 00:12:10,604 maybe whos credit 514 00:12:08,602 --> 00:12:10,604 isn't as good. 515 00:12:10,646 --> 00:12:13,107 An effort to try 516 00:12:10,646 --> 00:12:13,107 to give them the ability 517 00:12:13,107 --> 00:12:16,652 to move up and to reach 518 00:12:13,107 --> 00:12:16,652 the home-ownership dream. 519 00:12:16,652 --> 00:12:19,196 - But like so much else, 520 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,992 it starts as a good idea 521 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,992 that eventually gets perverted. 522 00:12:22,992 --> 00:12:24,618 That's--honestly, 523 00:12:24,702 --> 00:12:27,496 the history of the modern age 524 00:12:24,702 --> 00:12:27,496 of finance is that. 525 00:12:27,580 --> 00:12:29,498 - Washington has pretty much 526 00:12:27,580 --> 00:12:29,498 failed miserably 527 00:12:29,582 --> 00:12:31,459 for the last 10, 20 years 528 00:12:31,542 --> 00:12:33,627 as the mortgage lending market 529 00:12:31,542 --> 00:12:33,627 has changed. 530 00:12:33,711 --> 00:12:35,296 What Washington 531 00:12:33,711 --> 00:12:35,296 has been concerned about 532 00:12:35,296 --> 00:12:37,006 is making it easier 533 00:12:35,296 --> 00:12:37,006 for lenders 534 00:12:37,089 --> 00:12:39,175 to make loans 535 00:12:37,089 --> 00:12:39,175 without requiring them 536 00:12:39,175 --> 00:12:40,509 to do some due diligence. 537 00:12:40,593 --> 00:12:43,471 - It became possible 538 00:12:40,593 --> 00:12:43,471 to walk into a mortgage broker 539 00:12:43,471 --> 00:12:46,474 and buy a house 540 00:12:43,471 --> 00:12:46,474 with no provable income, 541 00:12:46,474 --> 00:12:50,144 no assets, and maybe not 542 00:12:46,474 --> 00:12:50,144 even using your real name. 543 00:12:50,144 --> 00:12:51,353 - People were saying 544 00:12:50,144 --> 00:12:51,353 to themselves, 545 00:12:51,437 --> 00:12:54,106 Eh, you're gonna give me 546 00:12:51,437 --> 00:12:54,106 a mortgage 547 00:12:54,190 --> 00:12:55,691 "when I don't have 548 00:12:54,190 --> 00:12:55,691 any money in the bank? 549 00:12:55,774 --> 00:12:58,110 "When I don't have a job? 550 00:12:55,774 --> 00:12:58,110 When I can lie on my form 551 00:12:58,194 --> 00:13:00,362 "and sign it and you'll give 552 00:12:58,194 --> 00:13:00,362 me the money anyway? 553 00:13:00,362 --> 00:13:03,449 "Essentially giving me 554 00:13:00,362 --> 00:13:03,449 a free option to buy a home? 555 00:13:03,532 --> 00:13:04,533 I'll do that all day long." 556 00:13:04,617 --> 00:13:06,285 People love free options. 557 00:13:06,368 --> 00:13:08,037 - Now, one company considered 558 00:13:08,037 --> 00:13:09,955 an innovator 559 00:13:08,037 --> 00:13:09,955 in these risky loans 560 00:13:10,039 --> 00:13:12,458 and one that aggressively 561 00:13:10,039 --> 00:13:12,458 pursued that market, 562 00:13:12,541 --> 00:13:14,251 was Countrywide Financial. 563 00:13:14,335 --> 00:13:17,296 The company made a fortune 564 00:13:14,335 --> 00:13:17,296 and so did its CEO. 565 00:13:17,379 --> 00:13:19,590 - This may well become 566 00:13:19,590 --> 00:13:22,426 the deeply tanned face 567 00:13:19,590 --> 00:13:22,426 of the mortgage mess. 568 00:13:22,510 --> 00:13:24,887 The face belongs 569 00:13:22,510 --> 00:13:24,887 to Angelo Mozilo, 570 00:13:24,970 --> 00:13:28,224 the once celebrated CEO 571 00:13:24,970 --> 00:13:28,224 of Countrywide. 572 00:13:28,307 --> 00:13:30,935 Now facing allegations 573 00:13:28,307 --> 00:13:30,935 of predatory lending 574 00:13:30,935 --> 00:13:33,103 and rapacious greed. 575 00:13:33,103 --> 00:13:34,730 - If you don't bear 576 00:13:33,103 --> 00:13:34,730 personal responsibility 577 00:13:34,897 --> 00:13:36,482 I don't know who does. 578 00:13:36,482 --> 00:13:38,150 - I do take full responsibility 579 00:13:38,150 --> 00:13:39,944 for anything that happens 580 00:13:38,150 --> 00:13:39,944 at Countrywide. 581 00:13:40,027 --> 00:13:41,487 - Mortgage lenders like 582 00:13:40,027 --> 00:13:41,487 AmeriQuest, 583 00:13:41,487 --> 00:13:43,322 and Countrywide, 584 00:13:41,487 --> 00:13:43,322 and New century 585 00:13:43,405 --> 00:13:47,451 concocted a whole series 586 00:13:43,405 --> 00:13:47,451 of loan products 587 00:13:47,535 --> 00:13:49,703 pedaling them aggressively 588 00:13:47,535 --> 00:13:49,703 to people 589 00:13:49,787 --> 00:13:52,498 who did not have the ability 590 00:13:49,787 --> 00:13:52,498 to pay those loans back. 591 00:13:52,581 --> 00:13:55,459 - When they say, "Sign here. 592 00:13:52,581 --> 00:13:55,459 Sign here. Sign here." 593 00:13:55,543 --> 00:13:57,878 And they tell you that they've 594 00:13:55,543 --> 00:13:57,878 told you everything 595 00:13:57,962 --> 00:13:59,338 that's important about the loan 596 00:13:59,421 --> 00:14:01,674 you think they have 597 00:13:59,421 --> 00:14:01,674 and you just sign. 598 00:14:01,674 --> 00:14:03,801 - [sobs] 599 00:14:03,801 --> 00:14:06,720 I just feel so stupid. 600 00:14:06,804 --> 00:14:08,806 - The whole system 601 00:14:06,804 --> 00:14:08,806 was designed 602 00:14:08,806 --> 00:14:11,517 to go after people 603 00:14:08,806 --> 00:14:11,517 with marginal means 604 00:14:11,517 --> 00:14:15,229 and then to put them in 605 00:14:11,517 --> 00:14:15,229 the highest cost loan possible 606 00:14:15,312 --> 00:14:17,231 'cause those are the ones 607 00:14:15,312 --> 00:14:17,231 that paid the most fees. 608 00:14:17,314 --> 00:14:20,442 - The banks didn't have 609 00:14:17,314 --> 00:14:20,442 to care anymore 610 00:14:20,526 --> 00:14:22,611 about whether the loan 611 00:14:20,526 --> 00:14:22,611 got paid back 612 00:14:22,695 --> 00:14:25,239 because the loan had been sold 613 00:14:22,695 --> 00:14:25,239 to Wall Street. 614 00:14:25,322 --> 00:14:27,366 - Instead of keeping 615 00:14:25,322 --> 00:14:27,366 the dicey loans 616 00:14:27,449 --> 00:14:29,118 in their own portfolios, 617 00:14:29,201 --> 00:14:31,412 the big banks 618 00:14:29,201 --> 00:14:31,412 and giant mortgage companies 619 00:14:31,495 --> 00:14:33,205 that originally underwrote them 620 00:14:33,289 --> 00:14:35,875 sold them off to big 621 00:14:33,289 --> 00:14:35,875 New York investment houses. 622 00:14:35,958 --> 00:14:38,210 - Firms like Bear Stearns 623 00:14:35,958 --> 00:14:38,210 and Merrill Lynch 624 00:14:38,210 --> 00:14:40,421 sliced the loans 625 00:14:38,210 --> 00:14:40,421 into little pieces, 626 00:14:40,421 --> 00:14:42,756 packaged them up 627 00:14:40,421 --> 00:14:42,756 with other investments, 628 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,425 then sold them 629 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,425 to their best customers 630 00:14:44,508 --> 00:14:45,801 around the world 631 00:14:45,885 --> 00:14:48,220 as high-yield, 632 00:14:45,885 --> 00:14:48,220 mortgage backed securities, 633 00:14:48,304 --> 00:14:51,056 turning sows' ears 634 00:14:48,304 --> 00:14:51,056 into silk purses. 635 00:14:51,140 --> 00:14:53,267 - Instead just buying 636 00:14:51,140 --> 00:14:53,267 one mortgage 637 00:14:53,350 --> 00:14:56,103 they would take a thousand, 638 00:14:53,350 --> 00:14:56,103 put them into a package, 639 00:14:56,103 --> 00:14:58,606 and then cut them 640 00:14:56,103 --> 00:14:58,606 into a thousand pieces, 641 00:14:58,689 --> 00:15:02,776 and then sell the pieces 642 00:14:58,689 --> 00:15:02,776 as a much safer investment. 643 00:15:02,860 --> 00:15:04,653 - The idea was 644 00:15:02,860 --> 00:15:04,653 that all this 645 00:15:04,653 --> 00:15:06,155 was diversified in 646 00:15:04,653 --> 00:15:06,155 a hundred different ways, 647 00:15:06,238 --> 00:15:08,782 everybody had little, 648 00:15:06,238 --> 00:15:08,782 little pieces of it 649 00:15:08,866 --> 00:15:12,161 and therefore if one of 650 00:15:08,866 --> 00:15:12,161 the little pieces went down, 651 00:15:12,161 --> 00:15:13,829 the other piece 652 00:15:12,161 --> 00:15:13,829 wouldn't go down. 653 00:15:13,829 --> 00:15:16,123 But that was the fallacy 654 00:15:13,829 --> 00:15:16,123 of the whole scheme. 655 00:15:16,206 --> 00:15:18,208 - From Main Street 656 00:15:16,206 --> 00:15:18,208 to Wall Street 657 00:15:18,292 --> 00:15:20,461 today's foreclosure numbers 658 00:15:18,292 --> 00:15:20,461 are foreboding. 659 00:15:20,461 --> 00:15:23,631 - They're rising so fast 660 00:15:20,461 --> 00:15:23,631 that they could soon involve 661 00:15:23,714 --> 00:15:26,634 one in a hundred 662 00:15:23,714 --> 00:15:26,634 American homes. 663 00:15:26,717 --> 00:15:28,552 - The fact that millions 664 00:15:26,717 --> 00:15:28,552 of Americans 665 00:15:28,636 --> 00:15:31,472 were getting mortgages that 666 00:15:28,636 --> 00:15:31,472 they should never have had. 667 00:15:31,472 --> 00:15:33,724 That's kind of 668 00:15:31,472 --> 00:15:33,724 an isolated virus, 669 00:15:33,807 --> 00:15:35,851 but Wall Street, 670 00:15:33,807 --> 00:15:35,851 ooh. 671 00:15:35,851 --> 00:15:38,395 Wall Street sent the virus 672 00:15:35,851 --> 00:15:38,395 all around the world. 673 00:15:39,146 --> 00:15:41,315 - Good evening, 674 00:15:39,146 --> 00:15:41,315 there is no shortage 675 00:15:41,398 --> 00:15:44,443 of evidence showing 676 00:15:41,398 --> 00:15:44,443 a U.S. economy either 677 00:15:44,526 --> 00:15:47,154 already in recession 678 00:15:44,526 --> 00:15:47,154 or heading there. 679 00:15:47,154 --> 00:15:50,115 Every day there is 680 00:15:47,154 --> 00:15:50,115 a new shock to the system. 681 00:15:50,199 --> 00:15:52,159 - The housing slump has turned 682 00:15:50,199 --> 00:15:52,159 many lives 683 00:15:52,242 --> 00:15:54,286 and bank accounts upside down. 684 00:15:54,286 --> 00:15:56,997 - The DOW futures down sharply 685 00:15:54,286 --> 00:15:56,997 for today's open 686 00:15:56,997 --> 00:15:59,541 as more banks report losses 687 00:15:56,997 --> 00:15:59,541 in the billions. 688 00:15:59,625 --> 00:16:01,293 - Mr. President, 689 00:15:59,625 --> 00:16:01,293 economists say 690 00:16:01,377 --> 00:16:05,214 that the nation is at 691 00:16:01,377 --> 00:16:05,214 increasing risk of recession. 692 00:16:05,297 --> 00:16:07,132 What do you say? 693 00:16:07,216 --> 00:16:09,009 - I say that 694 00:16:07,216 --> 00:16:09,009 the fundamentals 695 00:16:09,009 --> 00:16:12,012 of our nation's economy 696 00:16:09,009 --> 00:16:12,012 are strong. 697 00:16:12,012 --> 00:16:13,806 - Firms began 698 00:16:12,012 --> 00:16:13,806 to announce losses 699 00:16:13,889 --> 00:16:15,683 from subprime mortgage 700 00:16:13,889 --> 00:16:15,683 backed securities, 701 00:16:15,766 --> 00:16:17,726 but the whole idea was 702 00:16:15,766 --> 00:16:17,726 this is under control. 703 00:16:17,810 --> 00:16:19,061 And Ben Bernanke, 704 00:16:17,810 --> 00:16:19,061 who was then 705 00:16:19,144 --> 00:16:20,396 the chairman 706 00:16:19,144 --> 00:16:20,396 of the Federal Reserve, 707 00:16:20,479 --> 00:16:22,189 and Hank Paulson, 708 00:16:20,479 --> 00:16:22,189 who was then 709 00:16:22,272 --> 00:16:23,899 the secretary 710 00:16:22,272 --> 00:16:23,899 of the treasury said, 711 00:16:23,983 --> 00:16:25,234 basically, this is contained. 712 00:16:25,317 --> 00:16:28,237 - The U.S. economy 713 00:16:25,317 --> 00:16:28,237 is diverse and resilient 714 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,364 and our long-term fundamentals 715 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,364 are healthy. 716 00:16:30,364 --> 00:16:32,700 I believe that our economy 717 00:16:30,364 --> 00:16:32,700 will continue to grow 718 00:16:32,700 --> 00:16:34,201 although at a lesser pace 719 00:16:34,201 --> 00:16:35,911 than we have seen 720 00:16:34,201 --> 00:16:35,911 in recent years. 721 00:16:35,995 --> 00:16:39,206 - Hank Paulson had been 722 00:16:35,995 --> 00:16:39,206 the chief executive 723 00:16:39,206 --> 00:16:40,582 of Goldman Sachs. 724 00:16:40,666 --> 00:16:43,085 So he was an insider 725 00:16:40,666 --> 00:16:43,085 for better or worse. 726 00:16:43,085 --> 00:16:44,378 He knew where 727 00:16:43,085 --> 00:16:44,378 the bodies were buried 728 00:16:44,378 --> 00:16:45,921 and he knew 729 00:16:44,378 --> 00:16:45,921 how these markets work. 730 00:16:46,005 --> 00:16:47,798 - Testifying before 731 00:16:46,005 --> 00:16:47,798 a House committee, 732 00:16:47,881 --> 00:16:49,925 Federal Reserve Chairman, 733 00:16:47,881 --> 00:16:49,925 Ben Bernanke, 734 00:16:50,009 --> 00:16:52,469 through his weight 735 00:16:50,009 --> 00:16:52,469 behind a stimulus package. 736 00:16:52,553 --> 00:16:54,763 - Getting money to people 737 00:16:52,553 --> 00:16:54,763 quickly is good 738 00:16:54,847 --> 00:16:56,598 and getting money to low- 739 00:16:54,847 --> 00:16:56,598 and moderate-income people 740 00:16:56,598 --> 00:16:58,976 is good in the sense 741 00:16:56,598 --> 00:16:58,976 of getting bang for buck. 742 00:16:59,059 --> 00:17:01,770 - Ben Bernanke was an expert 743 00:16:59,059 --> 00:17:01,770 in the Great Depression. 744 00:17:01,770 --> 00:17:03,480 His one focus was to avoid 745 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,274 another Great Depression 746 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,274 in this country, 747 00:17:05,274 --> 00:17:07,985 and here we enter 748 00:17:05,274 --> 00:17:07,985 the Great Recession. 749 00:17:08,068 --> 00:17:10,112 - The fallout from 750 00:17:08,068 --> 00:17:10,112 the country's mortgage mess 751 00:17:10,195 --> 00:17:11,280 deepened today. 752 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,615 A major Wall Street firm, 753 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,615 Bear Sterns, 754 00:17:13,615 --> 00:17:15,659 reported its first 755 00:17:13,615 --> 00:17:15,659 quarterly loss 756 00:17:15,743 --> 00:17:17,119 in its 84-year history. 757 00:17:17,202 --> 00:17:19,121 - Bear Sterns was 758 00:17:17,202 --> 00:17:19,121 an investment bank, 759 00:17:19,204 --> 00:17:21,999 and investment banks 760 00:17:19,204 --> 00:17:21,999 are not the same as banks. 761 00:17:22,082 --> 00:17:23,834 They do not have 762 00:17:22,082 --> 00:17:23,834 small depositors. 763 00:17:23,917 --> 00:17:26,128 You and I cannot go in 764 00:17:23,917 --> 00:17:26,128 and open up an account. 765 00:17:26,128 --> 00:17:27,504 Investment bank clients 766 00:17:27,588 --> 00:17:29,173 are very sophisticated 767 00:17:27,588 --> 00:17:29,173 investors 768 00:17:29,256 --> 00:17:31,216 who both do 769 00:17:29,256 --> 00:17:31,216 and should know 770 00:17:31,300 --> 00:17:32,718 the risk of the institution 771 00:17:32,801 --> 00:17:34,303 when they do business 772 00:17:32,801 --> 00:17:34,303 with them. 773 00:17:34,386 --> 00:17:36,680 - Bear Sterns was one 774 00:17:34,386 --> 00:17:36,680 of Wall Street's major firms, 775 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:41,143 but with a slightly riskier, 776 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:41,143 edgier reputation. 777 00:17:41,143 --> 00:17:43,353 - Wherein Goldman Sachs 778 00:17:41,143 --> 00:17:43,353 is the queen 779 00:17:43,353 --> 00:17:46,231 and Morgan Stanley is-- 780 00:17:43,353 --> 00:17:46,231 you know, went to Harvard, 781 00:17:46,315 --> 00:17:47,566 Bear Sterns was 782 00:17:47,566 --> 00:17:49,568 the guy flipping you the bird 783 00:17:47,566 --> 00:17:49,568 in a corner. 784 00:17:49,568 --> 00:17:52,071 And it had probably 785 00:17:49,568 --> 00:17:52,071 a greater percentage 786 00:17:52,154 --> 00:17:55,074 of this toxic sludge, 787 00:17:52,154 --> 00:17:55,074 mortgage backed securities 788 00:17:55,074 --> 00:17:57,534 in its vaults 789 00:17:55,074 --> 00:17:57,534 than anybody else. 790 00:17:57,534 --> 00:17:59,578 - It's been a hard week 791 00:17:57,534 --> 00:17:59,578 for shares at Bear Stearns 792 00:17:59,661 --> 00:18:01,914 as the firm has been buffeted 793 00:17:59,661 --> 00:18:01,914 by constant rumors 794 00:18:01,997 --> 00:18:03,582 of a looming liquidity problem. 795 00:18:03,665 --> 00:18:05,918 Bear maintains 796 00:18:03,665 --> 00:18:05,918 that its balance sheet, 797 00:18:05,918 --> 00:18:08,045 capital positions, all strong. 798 00:18:08,045 --> 00:18:10,422 - Questioning a Wall Street 799 00:18:08,045 --> 00:18:10,422 firm's liquidity 800 00:18:10,422 --> 00:18:14,259 is very much akin to yelling 801 00:18:10,422 --> 00:18:14,259 fire in a crowded movie house. 802 00:18:14,343 --> 00:18:18,931 Once that cat is out the bag 803 00:18:14,343 --> 00:18:18,931 it risks triggering a stampede. 804 00:18:19,014 --> 00:18:20,641 - Should I be worried 805 00:18:19,014 --> 00:18:20,641 about Bear Stearns 806 00:18:20,724 --> 00:18:22,267 in terms of liquidity 807 00:18:20,724 --> 00:18:22,267 and get my money out of there? 808 00:18:22,351 --> 00:18:24,311 No! No! No! 809 00:18:24,394 --> 00:18:25,938 Bear Stearns is fine. 810 00:18:25,938 --> 00:18:27,439 Do not take your money out. 811 00:18:27,523 --> 00:18:30,192 - Our liquidity position 812 00:18:27,523 --> 00:18:30,192 has not changed at all. 813 00:18:30,275 --> 00:18:32,986 Our balance sheet 814 00:18:30,275 --> 00:18:32,986 has not weakened at all. 815 00:18:33,070 --> 00:18:35,823 - If you have to prove 816 00:18:33,070 --> 00:18:35,823 that you have credit, 817 00:18:35,823 --> 00:18:37,282 you don't have any. 818 00:18:37,282 --> 00:18:39,284 If you have to prove 819 00:18:37,282 --> 00:18:39,284 that these assets 820 00:18:39,284 --> 00:18:42,162 are worth what 821 00:18:39,284 --> 00:18:42,162 you say they are, they're not. 822 00:18:42,162 --> 00:18:46,708 That dawning fear 823 00:18:42,162 --> 00:18:46,708 that all of these mortgages 824 00:18:46,792 --> 00:18:50,379 might not be strong 825 00:18:46,792 --> 00:18:50,379 and reliable 826 00:18:50,462 --> 00:18:52,464 suddenly had 827 00:18:50,462 --> 00:18:52,464 everybody second-guessing. 828 00:18:52,464 --> 00:18:54,341 - For weeks there 829 00:18:52,464 --> 00:18:54,341 had been whispers 830 00:18:54,341 --> 00:18:56,176 of trouble at Bear Stearns. 831 00:18:56,176 --> 00:18:58,971 by today's opening bell 832 00:18:56,176 --> 00:18:58,971 it was a full-blown alarm. 833 00:18:58,971 --> 00:19:00,639 This morning, 834 00:18:58,971 --> 00:19:00,639 Schwartz said 835 00:19:00,722 --> 00:19:02,349 that the firm's cash position 836 00:19:02,432 --> 00:19:05,310 had deteriorated sharply 837 00:19:02,432 --> 00:19:05,310 over the past day. 838 00:19:05,310 --> 00:19:07,187 - The rumor became 839 00:19:05,310 --> 00:19:07,187 the reality. 840 00:19:07,271 --> 00:19:09,398 All the rumors got 841 00:19:07,271 --> 00:19:09,398 way too ahead 842 00:19:09,481 --> 00:19:11,066 of even the people's ability 843 00:19:09,481 --> 00:19:11,066 to manage it 844 00:19:11,150 --> 00:19:12,568 and that's really the story. 845 00:19:12,568 --> 00:19:14,903 - Who could possibly imagine 846 00:19:12,568 --> 00:19:14,903 that Bear Stearns, 847 00:19:14,903 --> 00:19:17,197 after 85 years 848 00:19:14,903 --> 00:19:17,197 of profitability, 849 00:19:17,281 --> 00:19:19,199 never having a losing quarter, 850 00:19:19,199 --> 00:19:22,911 would have a losing quarter 851 00:19:19,199 --> 00:19:22,911 in the fourth quarter of 2007 852 00:19:22,995 --> 00:19:25,038 and be out of business 853 00:19:22,995 --> 00:19:25,038 2 1/2 months later, 854 00:19:25,038 --> 00:19:26,248 in a week? 855 00:19:26,248 --> 00:19:27,708 - The fact that 856 00:19:26,248 --> 00:19:27,708 a Wall Street firm 857 00:19:27,791 --> 00:19:29,793 could lose 90% 858 00:19:27,791 --> 00:19:29,793 of its value 859 00:19:29,877 --> 00:19:32,254 in one weekend 860 00:19:29,877 --> 00:19:32,254 has some convinced 861 00:19:32,337 --> 00:19:34,882 the markets and the economy 862 00:19:32,337 --> 00:19:34,882 have farther to fall. 863 00:19:34,882 --> 00:19:37,092 - While most of the country 864 00:19:34,882 --> 00:19:37,092 was looking at this 865 00:19:37,176 --> 00:19:39,636 as one investment firm 866 00:19:37,176 --> 00:19:39,636 that maybe you've heard of, 867 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,763 maybe you haven't, 868 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,763 is teetering. 869 00:19:41,763 --> 00:19:44,892 It's a very different story 870 00:19:41,763 --> 00:19:44,892 in Washington. 871 00:19:44,892 --> 00:19:46,560 - An investment bank 872 00:19:44,892 --> 00:19:46,560 collapse, 873 00:19:46,643 --> 00:19:48,896 one as big as Bear Stearns 874 00:19:48,979 --> 00:19:52,149 is what Wall Street experts 875 00:19:48,979 --> 00:19:52,149 would have called 876 00:19:52,149 --> 00:19:53,984 an economic nightmare scenario. 877 00:19:54,067 --> 00:19:56,862 Here's the good news, 878 00:19:54,067 --> 00:19:56,862 it's been averted. 879 00:19:56,945 --> 00:19:59,698 Bear Stearns has been 880 00:19:56,945 --> 00:19:59,698 bailed out by the government, 881 00:19:59,781 --> 00:20:02,659 and now they've been 882 00:19:59,781 --> 00:20:02,659 bought out by a competitor. 883 00:20:02,659 --> 00:20:06,038 - The federal government 884 00:20:02,659 --> 00:20:06,038 had never stepped in before 885 00:20:06,121 --> 00:20:10,000 in the history of our republic 886 00:20:06,121 --> 00:20:10,000 to save an investment bank, 887 00:20:10,083 --> 00:20:13,545 but the Fed decided to change 888 00:20:10,083 --> 00:20:13,545 that in Bear Stearns' case 889 00:20:13,629 --> 00:20:15,547 because they decided 890 00:20:13,629 --> 00:20:15,547 that it wasn't because 891 00:20:15,631 --> 00:20:17,966 Bear Stearns was too big 892 00:20:15,631 --> 00:20:17,966 to fail as we'd like to say. 893 00:20:17,966 --> 00:20:20,010 It was too 894 00:20:17,966 --> 00:20:20,010 inter-connected to fail. 895 00:20:20,010 --> 00:20:21,845 - Given the current 896 00:20:20,010 --> 00:20:21,845 exceptional pressures 897 00:20:21,845 --> 00:20:23,847 on the global economy 898 00:20:21,845 --> 00:20:23,847 and financial system 899 00:20:23,931 --> 00:20:26,642 the damage caused 900 00:20:23,931 --> 00:20:26,642 by a default by Bear Stearns 901 00:20:26,642 --> 00:20:28,477 could have been severe 902 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:29,978 and extremely difficult 903 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:29,978 to contain. 904 00:20:30,062 --> 00:20:32,940 - The Fed knows this 905 00:20:30,062 --> 00:20:32,940 isn't just one firm. 906 00:20:33,023 --> 00:20:36,026 That when one tall building 907 00:20:33,023 --> 00:20:36,026 on Wall Street falls 908 00:20:36,026 --> 00:20:37,569 it's probably gonna land 909 00:20:36,026 --> 00:20:37,569 on another one. 910 00:20:37,569 --> 00:20:39,196 Which could land 911 00:20:37,569 --> 00:20:39,196 on another one. 912 00:20:39,279 --> 00:20:41,073 And it was 913 00:20:39,279 --> 00:20:41,073 that institutional risk, 914 00:20:41,156 --> 00:20:42,407 the idea that you might have 915 00:20:42,407 --> 00:20:45,035 an uncontrollable fire 916 00:20:42,407 --> 00:20:45,035 on Wall Street 917 00:20:45,118 --> 00:20:46,745 that primarily 918 00:20:45,118 --> 00:20:46,745 concerned Bernanke 919 00:20:46,828 --> 00:20:48,455 and the policymakers 920 00:20:46,828 --> 00:20:48,455 in Washington. 921 00:20:48,538 --> 00:20:51,708 - I think the big question 922 00:20:48,538 --> 00:20:51,708 on a lot of people's minds is 923 00:20:51,792 --> 00:20:54,753 are there other banks 924 00:20:51,792 --> 00:20:54,753 in a situation similar 925 00:20:54,836 --> 00:20:57,756 to Bear Stearns right now. 926 00:20:54,836 --> 00:20:57,756 Is this just the beginning? 927 00:20:57,839 --> 00:21:01,260 - Well, 928 00:20:57,839 --> 00:21:01,260 our financial institutions, 929 00:21:01,343 --> 00:21:03,804 our banks and investment banks, 930 00:21:01,343 --> 00:21:03,804 are very strong. 931 00:21:03,887 --> 00:21:05,764 And I'm convinced 932 00:21:03,887 --> 00:21:05,764 that they're gonna 933 00:21:05,764 --> 00:21:08,642 come out of 934 00:21:05,764 --> 00:21:08,642 this situation very strong. 935 00:21:08,725 --> 00:21:11,979 Our markets are resilient, 936 00:21:08,725 --> 00:21:11,979 they're flexible. 937 00:21:12,062 --> 00:21:13,897 I'm quite confident 938 00:21:12,062 --> 00:21:13,897 we're gonna 939 00:21:13,981 --> 00:21:15,649 work our way 940 00:21:13,981 --> 00:21:15,649 through this situation. 941 00:21:15,732 --> 00:21:17,276 - After Bear Stearns collapsed 942 00:21:17,276 --> 00:21:18,610 most people kind of thought, 943 00:21:18,694 --> 00:21:19,778 "Oh, whew. 944 00:21:18,694 --> 00:21:19,778 We dodged that bullet." 945 00:21:19,861 --> 00:21:21,280 I mean, 946 00:21:19,861 --> 00:21:21,280 there was debate about it, 947 00:21:21,363 --> 00:21:22,990 there was criticism 948 00:21:21,363 --> 00:21:22,990 of the government stepping in, 949 00:21:22,990 --> 00:21:25,450 but the sense was 950 00:21:22,990 --> 00:21:25,450 it was a ripple. 951 00:21:25,534 --> 00:21:27,661 You know, not a bombshell. 952 00:21:27,661 --> 00:21:29,955 There's no question about it... 953 00:21:29,955 --> 00:21:32,291 Wall Street got drunk. 954 00:21:32,291 --> 00:21:32,958 That's one of the 955 00:21:32,291 --> 00:21:32,958 reasons I asked you 956 00:21:32,958 --> 00:21:36,044 to turn off your 957 00:21:32,958 --> 00:21:36,044 TV cameras. 958 00:21:36,044 --> 00:21:39,089 It got drunk, and 959 00:21:36,044 --> 00:21:39,089 now it's got a hangover. 960 00:21:39,089 --> 00:21:41,800 The question is, how 961 00:21:39,089 --> 00:21:41,800 long will it sober up? 962 00:21:42,551 --> 00:21:45,387 - Wall Street is bracing 963 00:21:42,551 --> 00:21:45,387 for another possible victim 964 00:21:45,470 --> 00:21:47,389 of the housing 965 00:21:45,470 --> 00:21:47,389 and credit crisis. 966 00:21:47,472 --> 00:21:49,266 Lehman Brothers, 967 00:21:47,472 --> 00:21:49,266 one of the largest 968 00:21:49,266 --> 00:21:51,268 and oldest brokerage firms 969 00:21:49,266 --> 00:21:51,268 in the country 970 00:21:51,268 --> 00:21:54,604 has been experiencing 971 00:21:51,268 --> 00:21:54,604 what many fear is a slow death 972 00:21:54,688 --> 00:21:56,273 because of the demise 973 00:21:54,688 --> 00:21:56,273 of its rival, 974 00:21:56,356 --> 00:21:58,608 Bear Stearns, back in April. 975 00:21:58,608 --> 00:22:01,778 - There had been rumblings 976 00:21:58,608 --> 00:22:01,778 that if Bear went down 977 00:22:01,778 --> 00:22:04,156 Lehman would be 978 00:22:01,778 --> 00:22:04,156 in severe trouble, 979 00:22:04,239 --> 00:22:06,450 and Dick Fuld, 980 00:22:04,239 --> 00:22:06,450 their CEO, 981 00:22:06,533 --> 00:22:08,952 had been warned 982 00:22:06,533 --> 00:22:08,952 that you may be next. 983 00:22:08,952 --> 00:22:11,788 - Hank Paulson, who knew 984 00:22:08,952 --> 00:22:11,788 him from his Goldman days, 985 00:22:11,872 --> 00:22:13,332 had sat down with him 986 00:22:11,872 --> 00:22:13,332 and said, 987 00:22:13,415 --> 00:22:15,042 "You might want to think 988 00:22:13,415 --> 00:22:15,042 of finding a partner. 989 00:22:15,125 --> 00:22:16,376 Somebody to take you over. 990 00:22:16,460 --> 00:22:18,045 Get somebody 991 00:22:16,460 --> 00:22:18,045 with a bigger balance sheet." 992 00:22:18,128 --> 00:22:21,840 And Fuld had famously dismissed 993 00:22:18,128 --> 00:22:21,840 those as absurd 994 00:22:21,923 --> 00:22:23,508 and completely unnecessary. 995 00:22:23,508 --> 00:22:25,343 - Wall Street 996 00:22:23,508 --> 00:22:25,343 is on edge tonight 997 00:22:25,343 --> 00:22:27,345 after a weekend of talks 998 00:22:25,343 --> 00:22:27,345 ended rescuing 999 00:22:27,429 --> 00:22:29,681 the struggling Lehman Brothers 1000 00:22:27,429 --> 00:22:29,681 investment bank. 1001 00:22:29,765 --> 00:22:32,893 - All weekend top executives 1002 00:22:29,765 --> 00:22:32,893 of rival banks 1003 00:22:32,976 --> 00:22:34,394 along with Federal Reserve 1004 00:22:34,478 --> 00:22:35,979 and Treasury Department 1005 00:22:34,478 --> 00:22:35,979 officials 1006 00:22:36,063 --> 00:22:37,898 met under tight security 1007 00:22:37,898 --> 00:22:41,359 to discuss plans to buy Lehman 1008 00:22:37,898 --> 00:22:41,359 whole or in parts. 1009 00:22:41,443 --> 00:22:43,904 - Lehman is on the ropes. 1010 00:22:43,987 --> 00:22:47,282 Every CEO of virtually all 1011 00:22:43,987 --> 00:22:47,282 the big banks 1012 00:22:47,365 --> 00:22:48,533 gets a phone call. 1013 00:22:48,533 --> 00:22:50,744 "Get down 1014 00:22:48,533 --> 00:22:50,744 to the Federal Reserve." 1015 00:22:50,827 --> 00:22:52,746 Hank Paulson had 1016 00:22:50,827 --> 00:22:52,746 been lambasted 1017 00:22:52,746 --> 00:22:55,082 for effectively bailing out 1018 00:22:52,746 --> 00:22:55,082 Bear Stearns, 1019 00:22:55,165 --> 00:22:57,626 and so he sat all of these 1020 00:22:55,165 --> 00:22:57,626 CEOs in a room 1021 00:22:57,709 --> 00:23:00,629 and said, 1022 00:22:57,709 --> 00:23:00,629 "It's your problem. Fix it." 1023 00:23:00,712 --> 00:23:01,880 - Pretty clear 1024 00:23:00,712 --> 00:23:01,880 the government is not 1025 00:23:01,963 --> 00:23:03,131 going to bail anyone else out. 1026 00:23:03,215 --> 00:23:04,591 At least that's the message 1027 00:23:03,215 --> 00:23:04,591 they're sending. 1028 00:23:04,674 --> 00:23:06,259 - More than clear. 1029 00:23:04,674 --> 00:23:06,259 Loud and clear. 1030 00:23:06,259 --> 00:23:07,594 In fact, 1031 00:23:06,259 --> 00:23:07,594 when I was talking 1032 00:23:07,594 --> 00:23:09,638 to folks at the treasury 1033 00:23:07,594 --> 00:23:09,638 on Friday they were saying, 1034 00:23:09,721 --> 00:23:11,723 "Look, we're trying 1035 00:23:09,721 --> 00:23:11,723 to "find a buyer here, 1036 00:23:11,807 --> 00:23:12,933 but let's be clear. 1037 00:23:13,016 --> 00:23:14,810 We are not going 1038 00:23:13,016 --> 00:23:14,810 to use taxpayer money." 1039 00:23:14,893 --> 00:23:16,937 - People believed 1040 00:23:14,893 --> 00:23:16,937 that if Lehman went under 1041 00:23:16,937 --> 00:23:18,605 then the panic might spread, 1042 00:23:18,688 --> 00:23:20,774 but people 1043 00:23:18,688 --> 00:23:20,774 were equally worried that 1044 00:23:20,774 --> 00:23:23,276 if they bailed Lehman out 1045 00:23:20,774 --> 00:23:23,276 that it would be obviating 1046 00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:24,820 this idea of moral hazard. 1047 00:23:24,903 --> 00:23:26,196 If you believe 1048 00:23:24,903 --> 00:23:26,196 the U.S. government 1049 00:23:26,279 --> 00:23:27,531 is always gonna bail you out 1050 00:23:27,614 --> 00:23:30,283 well, then why wouldn't you 1051 00:23:27,614 --> 00:23:30,283 make bad decisions? 1052 00:23:30,283 --> 00:23:31,618 - The government is trying 1053 00:23:31,701 --> 00:23:33,495 to restore confidence 1054 00:23:31,701 --> 00:23:33,495 in the markets, 1055 00:23:33,578 --> 00:23:34,955 and you don't 1056 00:23:33,578 --> 00:23:34,955 restore confidence 1057 00:23:34,955 --> 00:23:37,124 by rescuing one institution 1058 00:23:34,955 --> 00:23:37,124 after another, 1059 00:23:37,124 --> 00:23:39,126 after another, after another. 1060 00:23:39,126 --> 00:23:40,627 - That Friday, 1061 00:23:39,126 --> 00:23:40,627 when Secretary Paulson and I 1062 00:23:40,627 --> 00:23:42,963 brought the market together 1063 00:23:40,627 --> 00:23:42,963 at the New York Fed. 1064 00:23:43,046 --> 00:23:46,133 I don't think any of them, 1065 00:23:43,046 --> 00:23:46,133 and really any of us 1066 00:23:46,216 --> 00:23:48,301 realized how bad 1067 00:23:46,216 --> 00:23:48,301 it was gonna get still. 1068 00:23:48,385 --> 00:23:50,137 I think we were, 1069 00:23:48,385 --> 00:23:50,137 I would say terrified 1070 00:23:50,137 --> 00:23:52,973 at that point, but probably 1071 00:23:50,137 --> 00:23:52,973 not terrified enough. 1072 00:23:52,973 --> 00:23:55,725 - Lehman Brothers, 1073 00:23:52,973 --> 00:23:55,725 for 158 years 1074 00:23:55,809 --> 00:23:57,811 a cornerstone on Wall Street. 1075 00:23:57,811 --> 00:23:59,855 Failure to find 1076 00:23:57,811 --> 00:23:59,855 a buyer over the weekend 1077 00:23:59,855 --> 00:24:01,606 means it is now bankrupt. 1078 00:24:01,690 --> 00:24:04,568 - Meanwhile, Merrill Lynch, 1079 00:24:01,690 --> 00:24:04,568 fearing it could be next 1080 00:24:04,568 --> 00:24:06,736 agreed in an act 1081 00:24:04,568 --> 00:24:06,736 of desperation 1082 00:24:06,820 --> 00:24:09,364 to a shotgun marriage 1083 00:24:06,820 --> 00:24:09,364 with Bank of America. 1084 00:24:09,364 --> 00:24:10,615 - Now we're left 1085 00:24:09,364 --> 00:24:10,615 with Morgan Stanley 1086 00:24:10,699 --> 00:24:12,033 and Goldman Sachs. 1087 00:24:12,033 --> 00:24:14,578 Out of five, three months ago, 1088 00:24:12,033 --> 00:24:14,578 there are two left. 1089 00:24:14,578 --> 00:24:17,038 - How long have you worked 1090 00:24:14,578 --> 00:24:17,038 for Lehman, sir? 1091 00:24:17,122 --> 00:24:18,540 - When they declared bankruptcy 1092 00:24:18,623 --> 00:24:20,208 I cannot explain to you 1093 00:24:20,292 --> 00:24:22,794 the shock and awe 1094 00:24:20,292 --> 00:24:22,794 in the investment community. 1095 00:24:22,878 --> 00:24:24,254 - If Lehman can go down 1096 00:24:24,337 --> 00:24:25,463 what does that mean 1097 00:24:24,337 --> 00:24:25,463 about the health 1098 00:24:25,547 --> 00:24:27,048 of the American financial 1099 00:24:25,547 --> 00:24:27,048 system right now? 1100 00:24:27,132 --> 00:24:28,967 - You're talking about 1101 00:24:27,132 --> 00:24:28,967 investment banks. 1102 00:24:29,050 --> 00:24:31,052 These are the smartest money 1103 00:24:29,050 --> 00:24:31,052 on Wall Street. 1104 00:24:31,136 --> 00:24:33,471 How have they been 1105 00:24:31,136 --> 00:24:33,471 getting it wrong for so long? 1106 00:24:33,555 --> 00:24:36,433 - They say on Wall Street 1107 00:24:33,555 --> 00:24:36,433 that nothing happens 1108 00:24:36,516 --> 00:24:39,144 until the lines 1109 00:24:36,516 --> 00:24:39,144 of fear and greed cross, 1110 00:24:39,227 --> 00:24:40,896 and there's no better example 1111 00:24:40,896 --> 00:24:43,815 of the lines 1112 00:24:40,896 --> 00:24:43,815 of fear and greed crossing 1113 00:24:43,899 --> 00:24:48,153 then the Lehman bankruptcy 1114 00:24:43,899 --> 00:24:48,153 on September 15th, 2008. 1115 00:24:48,153 --> 00:24:50,780 The markets were fearful. 1116 00:24:50,864 --> 00:24:52,282 [bell ringing] 1117 00:24:52,282 --> 00:24:54,492 - Your future, my future, 1118 00:24:52,282 --> 00:24:54,492 our future at stake. 1119 00:24:54,576 --> 00:24:57,120 A meltdown on Wall Street, 1120 00:24:54,576 --> 00:24:57,120 the worst since 9/11. 1121 00:24:57,204 --> 00:24:59,956 - This is 1122 00:24:57,204 --> 00:24:59,956 a once-in-a-half-century, 1123 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,126 probably once-in-a-century 1124 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,126 type of event. 1125 00:25:03,126 --> 00:25:04,628 - Is it the worst you've ever 1126 00:25:03,126 --> 00:25:04,628 seen in your career? 1127 00:25:04,711 --> 00:25:05,795 - Oh, by far. 1128 00:25:05,879 --> 00:25:07,797 - Because he's let Lehman 1129 00:25:05,879 --> 00:25:07,797 go under 1130 00:25:07,881 --> 00:25:10,967 there's suddenly shock 1131 00:25:07,881 --> 00:25:10,967 in the financial world 1132 00:25:10,967 --> 00:25:13,178 that Morgan Stanley's 1133 00:25:10,967 --> 00:25:13,178 gonna go under 1134 00:25:13,178 --> 00:25:16,348 and Goldman Sachs is gonna go 1135 00:25:13,178 --> 00:25:16,348 under and now you've got panic. 1136 00:25:16,431 --> 00:25:18,892 - The American people 1137 00:25:16,431 --> 00:25:18,892 can remain confident 1138 00:25:18,975 --> 00:25:21,311 in the soundness 1139 00:25:18,975 --> 00:25:21,311 and the resilience 1140 00:25:21,394 --> 00:25:22,687 of our financial system. 1141 00:25:22,771 --> 00:25:25,440 - Nobody understood 1142 00:25:22,771 --> 00:25:25,440 what was happening. 1143 00:25:25,523 --> 00:25:29,069 They couldn't believe 1144 00:25:25,523 --> 00:25:29,069 that these grand institutions 1145 00:25:29,069 --> 00:25:31,071 were about to come undone. 1146 00:25:31,071 --> 00:25:32,739 And they were waking up 1147 00:25:31,071 --> 00:25:32,739 in the morning 1148 00:25:32,822 --> 00:25:34,366 and finding out 1149 00:25:32,822 --> 00:25:34,366 it was worse today 1150 00:25:34,449 --> 00:25:36,368 than it was the day before. 1151 00:25:36,368 --> 00:25:39,246 - It's the latest crisis 1152 00:25:36,368 --> 00:25:39,246 to rock the financial markets. 1153 00:25:39,329 --> 00:25:41,873 Insurance giant AIG teetering 1154 00:25:41,957 --> 00:25:43,458 on the brink of bankruptcy. 1155 00:25:43,541 --> 00:25:45,460 This is a colossal firm. 1156 00:25:45,543 --> 00:25:47,712 If it fails, 1157 00:25:45,543 --> 00:25:47,712 the ripples would travel 1158 00:25:47,712 --> 00:25:50,548 far and wide 1159 00:25:47,712 --> 00:25:50,548 throughout the global economy. 1160 00:25:50,548 --> 00:25:52,467 - All of a sudden, 1161 00:25:50,548 --> 00:25:52,467 who would have dreamt 1162 00:25:52,550 --> 00:25:56,096 this other bombshell goes off, 1163 00:25:52,550 --> 00:25:56,096 which is AIG. 1164 00:25:56,179 --> 00:25:58,390 And if you think 1165 00:25:56,179 --> 00:25:58,390 Lehman Brothers 1166 00:25:58,390 --> 00:26:00,600 was complicated to figure out, 1167 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,103 AIG was monumentally bigger. 1168 00:26:03,103 --> 00:26:05,438 - AIG is this massive 1169 00:26:03,103 --> 00:26:05,438 insurance company, 1170 00:26:05,522 --> 00:26:09,651 but they also had a division 1171 00:26:05,522 --> 00:26:09,651 called AIG Financial Products. 1172 00:26:09,734 --> 00:26:13,488 Which would offer something 1173 00:26:09,734 --> 00:26:13,488 called a credit default swap. 1174 00:26:13,571 --> 00:26:15,156 - A credit default swap 1175 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,784 is a contract 1176 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,784 between two people, 1177 00:26:17,867 --> 00:26:21,121 one of whom is 1178 00:26:17,867 --> 00:26:21,121 giving insurance to the other 1179 00:26:21,121 --> 00:26:24,624 that he will be paid 1180 00:26:21,121 --> 00:26:24,624 in the event 1181 00:26:24,708 --> 00:26:26,668 that a financial institution 1182 00:26:26,668 --> 00:26:28,670 or a financial instrument 1183 00:26:26,668 --> 00:26:28,670 fails. 1184 00:26:28,753 --> 00:26:31,006 - So it is 1185 00:26:28,753 --> 00:26:31,006 an insurance contract? 1186 00:26:31,006 --> 00:26:34,009 - It is an insurance contract 1187 00:26:31,006 --> 00:26:34,009 but they've been very careful 1188 00:26:34,092 --> 00:26:36,386 not to call it that. 1189 00:26:36,469 --> 00:26:39,681 Because if it were insurance 1190 00:26:36,469 --> 00:26:39,681 it would be regulated. 1191 00:26:39,681 --> 00:26:43,143 - AIG essentially facilitated 1192 00:26:39,681 --> 00:26:43,143 the creation 1193 00:26:43,226 --> 00:26:45,186 of a lot of these 1194 00:26:43,226 --> 00:26:45,186 mortgage securities 1195 00:26:45,270 --> 00:26:48,398 by essentially providing 1196 00:26:45,270 --> 00:26:48,398 an insurance policy 1197 00:26:48,481 --> 00:26:50,400 should they go bad. 1198 00:26:50,483 --> 00:26:53,737 But because the derivatives 1199 00:26:50,483 --> 00:26:53,737 market had been deregulated 1200 00:26:53,820 --> 00:26:56,072 AIG could do this 1201 00:26:53,820 --> 00:26:56,072 without any requirement 1202 00:26:56,156 --> 00:26:57,532 to put up any reserves. 1203 00:26:57,615 --> 00:26:59,409 It's like an insurance 1204 00:26:57,615 --> 00:26:59,409 company selling you 1205 00:26:59,409 --> 00:27:02,370 a life insurance policy 1206 00:26:59,409 --> 00:27:02,370 and not having any money 1207 00:27:02,454 --> 00:27:04,622 when the time came to pay off. 1208 00:27:04,706 --> 00:27:06,708 And the time came to pay off. 1209 00:27:06,708 --> 00:27:09,544 - After its credit rating 1210 00:27:06,708 --> 00:27:09,544 was downgraded over night 1211 00:27:09,627 --> 00:27:13,882 AIG must raise at least 1212 00:27:09,627 --> 00:27:13,882 $40 billion and fast. 1213 00:27:13,965 --> 00:27:17,927 - You had a full-scale run 1214 00:27:13,965 --> 00:27:17,927 on AIG. 1215 00:27:17,927 --> 00:27:20,096 And there was a real view, 1216 00:27:17,927 --> 00:27:20,096 by the way, 1217 00:27:20,180 --> 00:27:23,767 that if AIG went under 1218 00:27:20,180 --> 00:27:23,767 the game was over. 1219 00:27:23,850 --> 00:27:27,562 - AIG does business with every 1220 00:27:23,850 --> 00:27:27,562 major financial institution 1221 00:27:27,562 --> 00:27:29,939 and in 130 countries. 1222 00:27:29,939 --> 00:27:31,608 - AIG will destroy much 1223 00:27:31,608 --> 00:27:35,653 of the capital 1224 00:27:31,608 --> 00:27:35,653 formation process 1225 00:27:35,653 --> 00:27:36,946 in the Western world. 1226 00:27:36,946 --> 00:27:39,282 - Paulson, Bernanke, 1227 00:27:36,946 --> 00:27:39,282 Tim Geithner, 1228 00:27:39,282 --> 00:27:42,285 they saw the risk 1229 00:27:39,282 --> 00:27:42,285 that this could be 1230 00:27:42,285 --> 00:27:45,497 not just a fire that would 1231 00:27:42,285 --> 00:27:45,497 burn Wall Street down, 1232 00:27:45,497 --> 00:27:47,874 but that could burn down 1233 00:27:45,497 --> 00:27:47,874 our economy 1234 00:27:47,957 --> 00:27:50,335 and burn down 1235 00:27:47,957 --> 00:27:50,335 the world economy. 1236 00:27:50,335 --> 00:27:53,129 - It is Uncle Sam 1237 00:27:50,335 --> 00:27:53,129 to the rescue, 1238 00:27:53,129 --> 00:27:55,048 but, oh, what a price tag. 1239 00:27:55,131 --> 00:27:58,343 - The federal government 1240 00:27:55,131 --> 00:27:58,343 is saving insurance giant AIG 1241 00:27:58,343 --> 00:28:02,347 from possible collapse 1242 00:27:58,343 --> 00:28:02,347 with an $85 billion loan. 1243 00:28:02,430 --> 00:28:04,849 All of it your money. 1244 00:28:04,849 --> 00:28:07,477 - The move was designed 1245 00:28:04,849 --> 00:28:07,477 to calm and bring stability 1246 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,021 to the financial markets. 1247 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,021 Did it work? 1248 00:28:10,105 --> 00:28:12,857 Maybe down the road, 1249 00:28:10,105 --> 00:28:12,857 but not today. 1250 00:28:12,941 --> 00:28:15,527 - Another anxiety attack 1251 00:28:12,941 --> 00:28:15,527 on Wall Street 1252 00:28:15,610 --> 00:28:17,737 even after the AIG bailout. 1253 00:28:17,821 --> 00:28:21,199 The DOW tumbled 1254 00:28:17,821 --> 00:28:21,199 another 450 points. 1255 00:28:21,282 --> 00:28:23,118 - In your 30 years of 1256 00:28:21,282 --> 00:28:23,118 being down here have you ever 1257 00:28:23,201 --> 00:28:26,371 seen the market like this? 1258 00:28:23,201 --> 00:28:26,371 - No. Never. 1259 00:28:26,371 --> 00:28:27,580 - Hank Paulson 1260 00:28:26,371 --> 00:28:27,580 and Ben Bernanke 1261 00:28:27,580 --> 00:28:28,706 are working very hard, 1262 00:28:28,790 --> 00:28:30,750 but it doesn't feel like 1263 00:28:28,790 --> 00:28:30,750 they're in control. 1264 00:28:30,834 --> 00:28:32,627 And that is very, 1265 00:28:30,834 --> 00:28:32,627 very unsettling. 1266 00:28:33,378 --> 00:28:36,965 - The $85 billion 1267 00:28:33,378 --> 00:28:36,965 the Federal Reserve put up 1268 00:28:37,048 --> 00:28:40,218 to save AIG 1269 00:28:37,048 --> 00:28:40,218 from near certain bankruptcy 1270 00:28:40,301 --> 00:28:43,179 was not enough 1271 00:28:40,301 --> 00:28:43,179 to calm terrified investors 1272 00:28:43,179 --> 00:28:45,974 that the next disaster 1273 00:28:43,179 --> 00:28:45,974 is not around the corner. 1274 00:28:46,057 --> 00:28:48,017 - Banks, meanwhile, 1275 00:28:46,057 --> 00:28:48,017 are hoarding cash 1276 00:28:48,017 --> 00:28:50,353 reluctant even 1277 00:28:48,017 --> 00:28:50,353 to lend to each other. 1278 00:28:50,353 --> 00:28:52,188 - Banks are nervous 1279 00:28:50,353 --> 00:28:52,188 about giving loans 1280 00:28:52,188 --> 00:28:54,733 for appliances, cars, homes, 1281 00:28:54,733 --> 00:28:57,569 making Wall Street's troubles 1282 00:28:54,733 --> 00:28:57,569 a Main Street issue, 1283 00:28:57,652 --> 00:29:00,196 and potentially putting 1284 00:28:57,652 --> 00:29:00,196 economic recovery 1285 00:29:00,196 --> 00:29:01,906 even farther out of reach. 1286 00:29:01,990 --> 00:29:03,408 - The markets are freezing. 1287 00:29:03,491 --> 00:29:06,745 The whole American economy 1288 00:29:03,491 --> 00:29:06,745 is built on the ability 1289 00:29:06,745 --> 00:29:08,788 to lend and borrow 1290 00:29:06,745 --> 00:29:08,788 and to invest. 1291 00:29:08,872 --> 00:29:11,040 And all of a sudden companies 1292 00:29:08,872 --> 00:29:11,040 throughout the country 1293 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,626 who borrow because 1294 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,626 they're buying equipment, 1295 00:29:13,710 --> 00:29:16,087 they need to make payroll, 1296 00:29:13,710 --> 00:29:16,087 they can't borrow. 1297 00:29:16,087 --> 00:29:18,423 Millions of people 1298 00:29:16,087 --> 00:29:18,423 started losing their jobs. 1299 00:29:18,423 --> 00:29:19,632 - The economy is shaken 1300 00:29:19,716 --> 00:29:21,092 and we're close 1301 00:29:19,716 --> 00:29:21,092 to a depression. 1302 00:29:21,176 --> 00:29:22,594 Forget the recession. 1303 00:29:22,594 --> 00:29:24,220 - It wasn't just a lost job. 1304 00:29:24,220 --> 00:29:26,222 It was a lost job 1305 00:29:24,220 --> 00:29:26,222 and am I going to have 1306 00:29:26,306 --> 00:29:29,225 a bank to go to 1307 00:29:26,306 --> 00:29:29,225 to get my retirement from? 1308 00:29:29,309 --> 00:29:30,769 Where am I gonna deposit 1309 00:29:29,309 --> 00:29:30,769 a check? 1310 00:29:30,769 --> 00:29:33,438 I mean, Ben Bernanke 1311 00:29:30,769 --> 00:29:33,438 and Hank Paulson 1312 00:29:33,521 --> 00:29:35,815 were really concerned 1313 00:29:33,521 --> 00:29:35,815 about whether or not 1314 00:29:35,815 --> 00:29:37,150 people would be able 1315 00:29:35,815 --> 00:29:37,150 to go to an ATM. 1316 00:29:37,233 --> 00:29:39,277 - Treasury Secretary Paulson 1317 00:29:37,233 --> 00:29:39,277 told Congress 1318 00:29:39,277 --> 00:29:41,321 in a sobering meeting 1319 00:29:39,277 --> 00:29:41,321 last night 1320 00:29:41,321 --> 00:29:44,282 that a bailout is the only way 1321 00:29:41,321 --> 00:29:44,282 to prevent a collapse. 1322 00:29:44,282 --> 00:29:48,620 - America's economy is facing 1323 00:29:44,282 --> 00:29:48,620 unprecedented challenges, 1324 00:29:48,620 --> 00:29:52,373 and we're responding 1325 00:29:48,620 --> 00:29:52,373 with unprecedented action. 1326 00:29:52,457 --> 00:29:54,959 - It is no stretch 1327 00:29:52,457 --> 00:29:54,959 to say that after this week 1328 00:29:55,043 --> 00:29:57,337 the era of big government 1329 00:29:55,043 --> 00:29:57,337 is back. 1330 00:29:57,420 --> 00:30:00,173 - It is an urgent request 1331 00:29:57,420 --> 00:30:00,173 from the Bush Administration 1332 00:30:00,173 --> 00:30:03,301 to Congress for $700 billion 1333 00:30:03,384 --> 00:30:06,679 to quickly stabilize 1334 00:30:03,384 --> 00:30:06,679 the financial system. 1335 00:30:06,679 --> 00:30:08,515 - Thursday afternoon 1336 00:30:06,679 --> 00:30:08,515 we start to hear 1337 00:30:08,515 --> 00:30:10,475 about this thing called TARP. 1338 00:30:10,475 --> 00:30:12,644 And TARP had many 1339 00:30:10,475 --> 00:30:12,644 different variations, 1340 00:30:12,727 --> 00:30:14,187 what it was gonna be, 1341 00:30:14,270 --> 00:30:17,065 but basically they were 1342 00:30:14,270 --> 00:30:17,065 gonna infuse capital 1343 00:30:17,065 --> 00:30:18,858 directly into some 1344 00:30:17,065 --> 00:30:18,858 of these companies. 1345 00:30:18,858 --> 00:30:20,693 - This troubled asset 1346 00:30:18,858 --> 00:30:20,693 relief program 1347 00:30:20,777 --> 00:30:24,405 must be properly designed 1348 00:30:20,777 --> 00:30:24,405 and sufficiently large 1349 00:30:24,405 --> 00:30:28,034 to have maximum impact 1350 00:30:24,405 --> 00:30:28,034 while including features 1351 00:30:28,117 --> 00:30:31,871 to protect the taxpayer 1352 00:30:28,117 --> 00:30:31,871 to the maximum extent possible. 1353 00:30:31,871 --> 00:30:36,042 - That $700 billion projected 1354 00:30:31,871 --> 00:30:36,042 price tag isn't pretty, 1355 00:30:36,125 --> 00:30:38,586 but the president says 1356 00:30:36,125 --> 00:30:38,586 it's a big package 1357 00:30:38,670 --> 00:30:40,588 because it is a big problem. 1358 00:30:40,588 --> 00:30:42,924 - My first instinct 1359 00:30:40,588 --> 00:30:42,924 was to let the market work 1360 00:30:43,007 --> 00:30:44,551 until I realized that-- 1361 00:30:44,634 --> 00:30:48,888 from being briefed 1362 00:30:44,634 --> 00:30:48,888 by the experts 1363 00:30:48,888 --> 00:30:51,432 of how significant 1364 00:30:48,888 --> 00:30:51,432 this problem became. 1365 00:30:51,432 --> 00:30:54,143 And so I decided to act 1366 00:30:54,227 --> 00:30:56,104 and act boldly. 1367 00:30:56,104 --> 00:30:57,897 - George W. Bush understands 1368 00:30:57,897 --> 00:31:00,775 that he has 1369 00:30:57,897 --> 00:31:00,775 to put his ideology aside. 1370 00:31:00,775 --> 00:31:04,153 Put 30 years 1371 00:31:00,775 --> 00:31:04,153 of small government, 1372 00:31:04,237 --> 00:31:07,198 no taxes, small budget, aside 1373 00:31:07,282 --> 00:31:10,326 because the country needs it 1374 00:31:07,282 --> 00:31:10,326 and the economy needs it. 1375 00:31:10,326 --> 00:31:12,662 - Opposition seems to be 1376 00:31:10,326 --> 00:31:12,662 growing here in Congress 1377 00:31:12,745 --> 00:31:14,664 for the legislation 1378 00:31:12,745 --> 00:31:14,664 that could be 1379 00:31:14,747 --> 00:31:17,333 the most important 1380 00:31:14,747 --> 00:31:17,333 of Mr. Bush's presidency. 1381 00:31:17,417 --> 00:31:20,169 - This isn't legislation. 1382 00:31:17,417 --> 00:31:20,169 This is extortion. 1383 00:31:20,253 --> 00:31:22,505 - This is a huge cow patty 1384 00:31:22,589 --> 00:31:25,800 with a piece of marshmallow 1385 00:31:22,589 --> 00:31:25,800 stuck in the middle of it. 1386 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:30,346 - Please. Please don't betray 1387 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:30,346 this nation's great history. 1388 00:31:30,346 --> 00:31:32,807 - We are the working majority! 1389 00:31:32,891 --> 00:31:35,894 - We will not be ruled 1390 00:31:32,891 --> 00:31:35,894 by the rich minority. 1391 00:31:35,977 --> 00:31:38,187 - Main Street went 1392 00:31:35,977 --> 00:31:38,187 to Wall Street today 1393 00:31:38,271 --> 00:31:40,732 to protest the bailout plan. 1394 00:31:40,732 --> 00:31:43,192 - People said, "Well, 1395 00:31:40,732 --> 00:31:43,192 why give the banks money? 1396 00:31:43,192 --> 00:31:44,402 "We could give money 1397 00:31:43,192 --> 00:31:44,402 to homeowners 1398 00:31:44,485 --> 00:31:46,029 to pay off their mortgage. 1399 00:31:46,112 --> 00:31:49,365 Is it fair that a company 1400 00:31:46,112 --> 00:31:49,365 that should be going bankrupt 1401 00:31:49,449 --> 00:31:50,909 is getting a handout? 1402 00:31:50,992 --> 00:31:53,202 - If this package goes 1403 00:31:50,992 --> 00:31:53,202 through, the way I look at it, 1404 00:31:53,202 --> 00:31:55,204 they've just mortgaged 1405 00:31:53,202 --> 00:31:55,204 our future. 1406 00:31:55,288 --> 00:31:57,040 - They live by 1407 00:31:55,288 --> 00:31:57,040 the free market. 1408 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,042 Let them die by 1409 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,042 the free market. 1410 00:31:59,125 --> 00:32:01,294 - There were a lot of people 1411 00:31:59,125 --> 00:32:01,294 shouting, "Let them fail." 1412 00:32:01,377 --> 00:32:03,087 They got themselves 1413 00:32:01,377 --> 00:32:03,087 into this position 1414 00:32:03,171 --> 00:32:04,881 and it's survival 1415 00:32:03,171 --> 00:32:04,881 of the fittest. 1416 00:32:04,881 --> 00:32:07,133 And this is what capitalism 1417 00:32:04,881 --> 00:32:07,133 looks like. 1418 00:32:07,216 --> 00:32:09,218 - The last thing in the world 1419 00:32:07,216 --> 00:32:09,218 I wanted to do 1420 00:32:09,302 --> 00:32:12,055 was be going up 1421 00:32:09,302 --> 00:32:12,055 to Congress asking 1422 00:32:12,138 --> 00:32:13,306 for these kinds of things. 1423 00:32:13,389 --> 00:32:15,642 It is a terrible position 1424 00:32:13,389 --> 00:32:15,642 to be in. 1425 00:32:15,725 --> 00:32:18,561 The only thing worse 1426 00:32:15,725 --> 00:32:18,561 is the alternative. 1427 00:32:18,645 --> 00:32:20,438 - If the credit markets 1428 00:32:18,645 --> 00:32:20,438 are not functioning 1429 00:32:20,438 --> 00:32:23,441 jobs will be lost, more houses 1430 00:32:20,438 --> 00:32:23,441 will be foreclosed upon, 1431 00:32:23,524 --> 00:32:25,652 the economy will just 1432 00:32:23,524 --> 00:32:25,652 not be able to recover 1433 00:32:25,652 --> 00:32:27,445 no matter 1434 00:32:25,652 --> 00:32:27,445 what other policies are taken. 1435 00:32:27,445 --> 00:32:29,614 - I know that we will be 1436 00:32:27,445 --> 00:32:29,614 able to live up 1437 00:32:29,697 --> 00:32:31,991 to our side of the bargain. 1438 00:32:31,991 --> 00:32:33,952 I hope the Republicans 1439 00:32:31,991 --> 00:32:33,952 will too. 1440 00:32:33,952 --> 00:32:37,163 - We gotta vote. 1441 00:32:33,952 --> 00:32:37,163 Thank you very much. 1442 00:32:37,163 --> 00:32:39,624 - Good day, and 1443 00:32:37,163 --> 00:32:39,624 what a day it's been so far. 1444 00:32:39,624 --> 00:32:41,376 The president's financial 1445 00:32:39,624 --> 00:32:41,376 bailout plan 1446 00:32:41,459 --> 00:32:43,503 has suffered a major defeat. 1447 00:32:43,586 --> 00:32:46,005 - They go up to Capitol Hill 1448 00:32:43,586 --> 00:32:46,005 and the bill fails. 1449 00:32:46,005 --> 00:32:48,216 And the results are dramatic. 1450 00:32:48,299 --> 00:32:49,634 - We gotta go! 1451 00:32:48,299 --> 00:32:49,634 - What is it? 1452 00:32:49,717 --> 00:32:50,843 What's wrong? 1453 00:32:50,927 --> 00:32:52,512 - Wall Street watched 1454 00:32:50,927 --> 00:32:52,512 Washington 1455 00:32:52,595 --> 00:32:54,055 with shock and fear. 1456 00:32:54,138 --> 00:32:57,016 As the bailout package 1457 00:32:54,138 --> 00:32:57,016 went down on Capitol Hill 1458 00:32:57,100 --> 00:32:59,185 the DOW went down like a sub. 1459 00:32:59,268 --> 00:33:03,064 - This is the biggest point 1460 00:32:59,268 --> 00:33:03,064 drop that has ever been seen. 1461 00:33:03,106 --> 00:33:04,357 There's virtually no American 1462 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,109 who is not feeling this 1463 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,109 one way or another. 1464 00:33:06,192 --> 00:33:09,237 - They just wiped out 1465 00:33:06,192 --> 00:33:09,237 everybody's 401k. 1466 00:33:09,237 --> 00:33:11,239 - There's just pure disgust 1467 00:33:09,237 --> 00:33:11,239 with the politicians. 1468 00:33:11,239 --> 00:33:12,865 There's absolutely 1469 00:33:11,239 --> 00:33:12,865 zero confidence 1470 00:33:12,865 --> 00:33:14,575 with what's going on here. 1471 00:33:12,865 --> 00:33:14,575 None. 1472 00:33:14,575 --> 00:33:18,079 - Paulson called me that night 1473 00:33:14,575 --> 00:33:18,079 stunned and scared. 1474 00:33:18,162 --> 00:33:19,372 People were days away 1475 00:33:18,162 --> 00:33:19,372 from not being able 1476 00:33:19,372 --> 00:33:20,748 to take money 1477 00:33:19,372 --> 00:33:20,748 out of their ATMs. 1478 00:33:20,748 --> 00:33:22,083 And it was happening 1479 00:33:20,748 --> 00:33:22,083 around the world, 1480 00:33:22,083 --> 00:33:23,418 not just in the United States. 1481 00:33:23,418 --> 00:33:27,088 It was a more dangerous 1482 00:33:23,418 --> 00:33:27,088 global crisis and scope 1483 00:33:27,171 --> 00:33:29,090 than anything we'd seen 1484 00:33:27,171 --> 00:33:29,090 since the Great Depression. 1485 00:33:29,090 --> 00:33:31,426 And we were effectively 1486 00:33:29,090 --> 00:33:31,426 out of ammunition. 1487 00:33:31,426 --> 00:33:33,386 - Two days after 1488 00:33:31,426 --> 00:33:33,386 the House killed 1489 00:33:33,469 --> 00:33:35,221 the financial rescue package 1490 00:33:35,221 --> 00:33:38,224 the Senate leadership is 1491 00:33:35,221 --> 00:33:38,224 determined to pass it tonight 1492 00:33:38,224 --> 00:33:41,060 and pressure the House 1493 00:33:38,224 --> 00:33:41,060 into taking action. 1494 00:33:41,060 --> 00:33:44,647 - To Democrats and Republicans 1495 00:33:41,060 --> 00:33:44,647 who've opposed this plan 1496 00:33:44,731 --> 00:33:47,358 I say step up to the plate. 1497 00:33:47,442 --> 00:33:50,028 Let's do what's right 1498 00:33:47,442 --> 00:33:50,028 for the country at this time. 1499 00:33:50,111 --> 00:33:53,114 Because the time to act is now. 1500 00:33:53,114 --> 00:33:55,158 - If we fail to act. 1501 00:33:55,158 --> 00:33:58,828 The gears of our economy 1502 00:33:55,158 --> 00:33:58,828 will grind to a halt. 1503 00:33:58,911 --> 00:34:01,956 - This is the greatest 1504 00:33:58,911 --> 00:34:01,956 market disruption 1505 00:34:01,956 --> 00:34:04,792 that's happened since 1506 00:34:01,956 --> 00:34:04,792 the crash of 1929. 1507 00:34:04,792 --> 00:34:08,796 Reality finally imposes itself 1508 00:34:04,792 --> 00:34:08,796 on Capitol Hill. 1509 00:34:09,797 --> 00:34:11,299 - The motion is adopted. 1510 00:34:11,299 --> 00:34:14,302 - Given a second chance, 1511 00:34:11,299 --> 00:34:14,302 the House did an about-face. 1512 00:34:14,385 --> 00:34:17,472 Easily passing 1513 00:34:14,385 --> 00:34:17,472 the $700 billion bailout 1514 00:34:17,555 --> 00:34:19,640 of the financial industry. 1515 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,350 There were moments this week 1516 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,350 when some thought 1517 00:34:21,434 --> 00:34:22,685 that the federal government 1518 00:34:22,685 --> 00:34:24,228 could not rise 1519 00:34:22,685 --> 00:34:24,228 to the challenge, 1520 00:34:24,312 --> 00:34:25,980 but thanks to the hard work 1521 00:34:24,312 --> 00:34:25,980 of members 1522 00:34:25,980 --> 00:34:28,691 of both parties 1523 00:34:25,980 --> 00:34:28,691 in both houses 1524 00:34:28,775 --> 00:34:31,402 in the spirit of cooperation 1525 00:34:28,775 --> 00:34:31,402 between Capitol Hill 1526 00:34:31,486 --> 00:34:33,196 and my administration, 1527 00:34:33,196 --> 00:34:36,699 we completed this bill 1528 00:34:33,196 --> 00:34:36,699 in a timely manner. 1529 00:34:36,783 --> 00:34:39,869 - In the aftermath, 1530 00:34:36,783 --> 00:34:39,869 people criticized Paulson 1531 00:34:39,869 --> 00:34:41,913 for this and the other, 1532 00:34:39,869 --> 00:34:41,913 and that's fine. 1533 00:34:41,913 --> 00:34:44,040 But the truth is 1534 00:34:41,913 --> 00:34:44,040 if he hadn't been there 1535 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,625 and they hadn't intervened 1536 00:34:45,708 --> 00:34:48,294 we never would have 1537 00:34:45,708 --> 00:34:48,294 crawled out of that hole. 1538 00:34:48,377 --> 00:34:50,213 - They rescued 1539 00:34:48,377 --> 00:34:50,213 the financial system. 1540 00:34:50,213 --> 00:34:51,756 Like it or not. 1541 00:34:51,756 --> 00:34:54,092 I mean, 1542 00:34:51,756 --> 00:34:54,092 you can wish all day long 1543 00:34:54,175 --> 00:34:56,052 that they'd all gone down 1544 00:34:54,175 --> 00:34:56,052 the tubes, 1545 00:34:56,052 --> 00:34:58,137 but I really don't think 1546 00:34:58,221 --> 00:34:59,931 we would have enjoyed that 1547 00:34:58,221 --> 00:34:59,931 one bit. 1548 00:35:00,014 --> 00:35:01,891 - Our so-called ownership 1549 00:35:00,014 --> 00:35:01,891 society 1550 00:35:01,891 --> 00:35:03,893 just didn't make the break, 1551 00:35:03,976 --> 00:35:06,646 but at least we saved those 1552 00:35:03,976 --> 00:35:06,646 Wall Street banks. 1553 00:35:08,606 --> 00:35:11,150 [indistinct chatter] 1554 00:35:11,150 --> 00:35:14,153 - Get 'em boys! 1555 00:35:11,150 --> 00:35:14,153 Get' em. 1556 00:35:14,153 --> 00:35:15,321 - Bernie, give me one minute. 1557 00:35:15,404 --> 00:35:16,656 - What do you have to say 1558 00:35:15,404 --> 00:35:16,656 to the public? 1559 00:35:16,656 --> 00:35:17,949 To your investors? 1560 00:35:18,032 --> 00:35:19,325 - There are 1561 00:35:18,032 --> 00:35:19,325 new details tonight 1562 00:35:19,325 --> 00:35:20,827 about what may be 1563 00:35:19,325 --> 00:35:20,827 the largest swindle 1564 00:35:20,910 --> 00:35:23,621 in Wall Street history. 1565 00:35:20,910 --> 00:35:23,621 An alleged $50 billion 1566 00:35:23,704 --> 00:35:26,874 Ponzi scheme by former Nasdaq 1567 00:35:23,704 --> 00:35:26,874 chairman, Bernard Madoff. 1568 00:35:26,958 --> 00:35:29,127 - What would you say to all 1569 00:35:26,958 --> 00:35:29,127 those people that lost money? 1570 00:35:29,127 --> 00:35:31,796 What would you say to them? 1571 00:35:31,879 --> 00:35:34,298 - When you have a collapse 1572 00:35:31,879 --> 00:35:34,298 on Wall Street 1573 00:35:34,382 --> 00:35:36,467 I always think of it 1574 00:35:34,382 --> 00:35:36,467 as the water 1575 00:35:36,551 --> 00:35:38,302 going out of a lake 1576 00:35:36,551 --> 00:35:38,302 or something. 1577 00:35:38,386 --> 00:35:40,888 And suddenly you can see 1578 00:35:38,386 --> 00:35:40,888 the roots of those trees. 1579 00:35:40,972 --> 00:35:43,141 You can see all the ugly stuff 1580 00:35:40,972 --> 00:35:43,141 that gets caught in them. 1581 00:35:43,141 --> 00:35:44,642 Including, like, dead bodies. 1582 00:35:44,725 --> 00:35:46,144 And that's how I feel, like, 1583 00:35:46,144 --> 00:35:48,229 that the water went down 1584 00:35:46,144 --> 00:35:48,229 so much 1585 00:35:48,229 --> 00:35:50,314 and everybody was like, 1586 00:35:50,314 --> 00:35:51,899 "That's Bernie Madoff 1587 00:35:50,314 --> 00:35:51,899 down there." 1588 00:35:51,983 --> 00:35:54,694 - A Wall Street whiz 1589 00:35:51,983 --> 00:35:54,694 with a golden reputation, 1590 00:35:54,694 --> 00:35:57,697 Bernie Madoff earned trust 1591 00:35:54,694 --> 00:35:57,697 from many of his clients 1592 00:35:57,697 --> 00:36:00,241 because he made them money, 1593 00:35:57,697 --> 00:36:00,241 lots of it. 1594 00:36:00,324 --> 00:36:01,909 Or so they thought. 1595 00:36:01,993 --> 00:36:03,369 - Bernie Madoff 1596 00:36:01,993 --> 00:36:03,369 was a modern day 1597 00:36:03,452 --> 00:36:04,912 Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. 1598 00:36:04,996 --> 00:36:08,249 He had a legitimate life 1599 00:36:04,996 --> 00:36:08,249 that was highly successful, 1600 00:36:08,332 --> 00:36:10,626 and he had this darker secret 1601 00:36:10,710 --> 00:36:14,046 that fed his need for success. 1602 00:36:14,046 --> 00:36:15,464 - Madoff allegedly had been 1603 00:36:15,548 --> 00:36:17,758 using new investment money 1604 00:36:15,548 --> 00:36:17,758 from clients 1605 00:36:17,758 --> 00:36:20,928 to pay supposed profits 1606 00:36:17,758 --> 00:36:20,928 out to other investors. 1607 00:36:20,928 --> 00:36:22,972 Under the weight 1608 00:36:20,928 --> 00:36:22,972 of a tumbling stock market 1609 00:36:23,055 --> 00:36:24,974 the scheme had collapsed. 1610 00:36:25,057 --> 00:36:26,809 Desperate investors 1611 00:36:25,057 --> 00:36:26,809 and their lawyers 1612 00:36:26,893 --> 00:36:29,812 scrambled to Madoff's 1613 00:36:26,893 --> 00:36:29,812 East Side offices Friday 1614 00:36:29,896 --> 00:36:31,230 looking for their money. 1615 00:36:31,314 --> 00:36:33,274 They were turned away 1616 00:36:31,314 --> 00:36:33,274 in the lobby. 1617 00:36:33,274 --> 00:36:35,943 - There has never been 1618 00:36:33,274 --> 00:36:35,943 a Ponzi scheme 1619 00:36:35,943 --> 00:36:37,862 on the scale of Madoff ever. 1620 00:36:37,945 --> 00:36:39,989 We're talking 1621 00:36:37,945 --> 00:36:39,989 thousands of people 1622 00:36:39,989 --> 00:36:42,617 who thought that 1623 00:36:39,989 --> 00:36:42,617 they had millions of dollars 1624 00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:44,202 socked away for retirement 1625 00:36:44,285 --> 00:36:45,995 suddenly found out it was gone. 1626 00:36:46,078 --> 00:36:48,456 - Rose and Jack Lass 1627 00:36:46,078 --> 00:36:48,456 say they invested 1628 00:36:48,539 --> 00:36:51,000 every penny of their savings 1629 00:36:48,539 --> 00:36:51,000 with Madoff. 1630 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,502 - We started 1631 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,502 to sell our furniture, 1632 00:36:53,586 --> 00:36:57,298 some of our things 1633 00:36:53,586 --> 00:36:57,298 that we value, 1634 00:36:57,298 --> 00:37:00,384 so that we should have some 1635 00:36:57,298 --> 00:37:00,384 money immediately. 1636 00:37:00,468 --> 00:37:03,012 - Then there's 91-year-old 1637 00:37:00,468 --> 00:37:03,012 Ian Fearman. 1638 00:37:03,095 --> 00:37:05,223 He had to take a job 1639 00:37:03,095 --> 00:37:05,223 at a grocery store 1640 00:37:05,306 --> 00:37:08,476 after losing $700,000 1641 00:37:05,306 --> 00:37:08,476 to Madoff. 1642 00:37:08,476 --> 00:37:12,396 - The human suffering 1643 00:37:08,476 --> 00:37:12,396 that Madoff caused, 1644 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,941 I don't think 1645 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,941 we can ever fully grasp. 1646 00:37:15,024 --> 00:37:18,694 - Homes had to be sold, 1647 00:37:15,024 --> 00:37:18,694 college educations truncated, 1648 00:37:18,778 --> 00:37:20,404 people had to come out 1649 00:37:18,778 --> 00:37:20,404 of retirement, 1650 00:37:20,404 --> 00:37:23,199 go to work at whatever job 1651 00:37:20,404 --> 00:37:23,199 they could get. 1652 00:37:23,282 --> 00:37:24,951 And, for those people, 1653 00:37:25,034 --> 00:37:27,912 the Madoff fraud 1654 00:37:25,034 --> 00:37:27,912 is never gonna be over. 1655 00:37:27,912 --> 00:37:31,415 - What may very well be 1656 00:37:27,912 --> 00:37:31,415 the final steps of freedom 1657 00:37:31,415 --> 00:37:34,293 for perhaps the most 1658 00:37:31,415 --> 00:37:34,293 despised man in America. 1659 00:37:34,377 --> 00:37:36,879 Bernie Madoff entered 1660 00:37:34,377 --> 00:37:36,879 a federal court 1661 00:37:36,879 --> 00:37:38,589 in Manhattan today 1662 00:37:36,879 --> 00:37:38,589 and pleaded guilty 1663 00:37:38,589 --> 00:37:42,051 to the greatest investor fraud 1664 00:37:38,589 --> 00:37:42,051 in U.S. history. 1665 00:37:42,134 --> 00:37:44,804 - I think the connection 1666 00:37:42,134 --> 00:37:44,804 between Bernie Madoff and 1667 00:37:44,887 --> 00:37:48,224 the financial crisis 1668 00:37:44,887 --> 00:37:48,224 was one fundamentally about 1669 00:37:44,887 --> 00:37:48,224 trust. 1670 00:37:48,224 --> 00:37:51,644 It was about a loss of trust 1671 00:37:48,224 --> 00:37:51,644 in the system. 1672 00:37:51,727 --> 00:37:53,437 About a loss of trust 1673 00:37:53,437 --> 00:37:56,315 in people that 1674 00:37:53,437 --> 00:37:56,315 you thought were worthy. 1675 00:37:56,315 --> 00:37:59,777 - We all trusted 1676 00:37:56,315 --> 00:37:59,777 the free enterprise system. 1677 00:37:59,860 --> 00:38:02,947 We trusted these 1678 00:37:59,860 --> 00:38:02,947 deregulated markets 1679 00:38:03,030 --> 00:38:05,950 to foster our prosperity. 1680 00:38:06,033 --> 00:38:09,328 All of America felt 1681 00:38:06,033 --> 00:38:09,328 that they had been betrayed 1682 00:38:09,412 --> 00:38:11,289 by Wall Street. 1683 00:38:11,372 --> 00:38:14,166 - The stock market just 1684 00:38:11,372 --> 00:38:14,166 can't seem to find a bottom. 1685 00:38:14,166 --> 00:38:16,127 - It's day after day, 1686 00:38:14,166 --> 00:38:16,127 week after week, 1687 00:38:16,210 --> 00:38:18,170 and it's hurting 1688 00:38:16,210 --> 00:38:18,170 the public morale. 1689 00:38:18,170 --> 00:38:19,964 - There is a deep sense 1690 00:38:18,170 --> 00:38:19,964 across the country 1691 00:38:20,047 --> 00:38:22,466 that those who were not 1692 00:38:20,047 --> 00:38:22,466 responsible for this crisis 1693 00:38:22,466 --> 00:38:25,469 are bearing a greater burden 1694 00:38:22,466 --> 00:38:25,469 than those who were. 1695 00:38:25,553 --> 00:38:27,013 The scariest thing 1696 00:38:25,553 --> 00:38:27,013 about that time 1697 00:38:27,013 --> 00:38:30,016 was that the United Sates 1698 00:38:27,013 --> 00:38:30,016 had already thrown 1699 00:38:30,016 --> 00:38:31,976 a lot at this problem, 1700 00:38:31,976 --> 00:38:33,644 and the recession 1701 00:38:31,976 --> 00:38:33,644 was getting much worse. 1702 00:38:33,644 --> 00:38:36,689 We were losing 750,000 jobs 1703 00:38:33,644 --> 00:38:36,689 a month. 1704 00:38:36,772 --> 00:38:39,358 - Just this weekend there was 1705 00:38:36,772 --> 00:38:39,358 a job fair at Dodger Stadium. 1706 00:38:39,442 --> 00:38:42,611 500 jobs available for ushers, 1707 00:38:39,442 --> 00:38:42,611 food workers, 1708 00:38:42,695 --> 00:38:45,031 security, 9 to $18 an hour. 1709 00:38:45,031 --> 00:38:47,283 Part-time, 500 jobs. 1710 00:38:47,366 --> 00:38:49,869 4,500 showed up. 1711 00:38:49,952 --> 00:38:52,872 - [crying] 1712 00:38:49,952 --> 00:38:52,872 It's a lot of competition. 1713 00:38:52,872 --> 00:38:56,876 I'm 55 years old 1714 00:38:52,872 --> 00:38:56,876 trying to get a job. 1715 00:38:56,876 --> 00:38:59,086 It's heart-breaking. 1716 00:38:59,086 --> 00:39:01,088 - Millions of people 1717 00:38:59,086 --> 00:39:01,088 lost their jobs. 1718 00:39:01,172 --> 00:39:02,882 Millions lost their homes. 1719 00:39:02,882 --> 00:39:05,926 Cities and towns 1720 00:39:02,882 --> 00:39:05,926 were devastated. 1721 00:39:05,926 --> 00:39:09,263 And on the other hand 1722 00:39:05,926 --> 00:39:09,263 Wall Street survived. 1723 00:39:09,347 --> 00:39:10,890 Quite nicely, I might add. 1724 00:39:10,973 --> 00:39:13,392 - After they got 1725 00:39:10,973 --> 00:39:13,392 their $84 million bailout, 1726 00:39:13,476 --> 00:39:16,479 AIG executives spent hundreds 1727 00:39:13,476 --> 00:39:16,479 of thousands of dollars 1728 00:39:16,562 --> 00:39:19,023 on fancy hotels 1729 00:39:16,562 --> 00:39:19,023 and spa treatments. 1730 00:39:19,023 --> 00:39:21,192 - They were getting 1731 00:39:19,023 --> 00:39:21,192 their manicures 1732 00:39:21,275 --> 00:39:23,486 their facials, 1733 00:39:21,275 --> 00:39:23,486 their pedicures, 1734 00:39:23,569 --> 00:39:25,946 and their massages 1735 00:39:25,946 --> 00:39:29,325 while American people 1736 00:39:25,946 --> 00:39:29,325 were footing the bill. 1737 00:39:29,408 --> 00:39:31,118 - Your company's now bankrupt, 1738 00:39:31,202 --> 00:39:33,537 our economy is 1739 00:39:31,202 --> 00:39:33,537 in a state of crisis, 1740 00:39:33,621 --> 00:39:36,791 but you get to keep 1741 00:39:33,621 --> 00:39:36,791 $480 million. 1742 00:39:36,874 --> 00:39:39,126 - It's been a continuing 1743 00:39:36,874 --> 00:39:39,126 source of frustration 1744 00:39:39,126 --> 00:39:42,797 that essentially no one 1745 00:39:39,126 --> 00:39:42,797 at the big banks 1746 00:39:42,797 --> 00:39:46,050 was ever prosecuted 1747 00:39:42,797 --> 00:39:46,050 or held accountable for this. 1748 00:39:46,133 --> 00:39:49,512 - I do not think 1749 00:39:46,133 --> 00:39:49,512 that we did anything wrong. 1750 00:39:49,595 --> 00:39:52,473 We did not cause 1751 00:39:49,595 --> 00:39:52,473 the financial crisis. 1752 00:39:52,473 --> 00:39:56,143 - There were a lot of people 1753 00:39:52,473 --> 00:39:56,143 who made a lot of mistakes. 1754 00:39:56,227 --> 00:39:59,355 The question is whether 1755 00:39:56,227 --> 00:39:59,355 they were criminal mistakes. 1756 00:39:59,355 --> 00:40:01,148 It was hard to make the case. 1757 00:40:01,232 --> 00:40:02,566 - You belong in jail! 1758 00:40:02,650 --> 00:40:04,110 - You belong in jail, you... 1759 00:40:02,650 --> 00:40:04,110 both: Criminal! 1760 00:40:04,193 --> 00:40:05,736 - You should go to jail! 1761 00:40:05,736 --> 00:40:08,864 - There's just part of us 1762 00:40:05,736 --> 00:40:08,864 that wants justice. 1763 00:40:08,948 --> 00:40:12,535 And sometimes justice is not 1764 00:40:08,948 --> 00:40:12,535 what you should be asking for. 1765 00:40:12,535 --> 00:40:14,078 You should sometimes 1766 00:40:12,535 --> 00:40:14,078 just realize 1767 00:40:14,161 --> 00:40:16,789 a system's broken 1768 00:40:14,161 --> 00:40:16,789 and needs to be fixed. 1769 00:40:16,872 --> 00:40:20,042 That said, 1770 00:40:16,872 --> 00:40:20,042 Wall Street never changes. 1771 00:40:20,042 --> 00:40:22,211 - There's always gonna be 1772 00:40:20,042 --> 00:40:22,211 people out there 1773 00:40:22,294 --> 00:40:25,047 who are paid 1774 00:40:22,294 --> 00:40:25,047 to try to find the loophole. 1775 00:40:25,131 --> 00:40:26,632 Or if there's a regulation, 1776 00:40:26,715 --> 00:40:28,884 to try to roll back 1777 00:40:26,715 --> 00:40:28,884 the regulation. 1778 00:40:28,968 --> 00:40:30,469 It never ends. 1779 00:40:28,968 --> 00:40:30,469 It never will end. 1780 00:40:30,553 --> 00:40:33,889 [protestors chanting] 1781 00:40:33,889 --> 00:40:35,057 - And that's why Wall Street 1782 00:40:35,141 --> 00:40:37,726 has always been 1783 00:40:35,141 --> 00:40:37,726 a very dangerous place. 1784 00:40:37,810 --> 00:40:39,937 And it remains 1785 00:40:37,810 --> 00:40:39,937 a very dangerous place. 1786 00:40:39,937 --> 00:40:42,356 There's plenty of reasons 1787 00:40:39,937 --> 00:40:42,356 why the same thing 1788 00:40:42,523 --> 00:40:44,984 could happen again 1789 00:40:42,523 --> 00:40:44,984 in the near-term. 1790 00:40:45,067 --> 00:40:46,318 - $10. 1791 00:40:46,318 --> 00:40:47,820 We can boogaloo, 1792 00:40:46,318 --> 00:40:47,820 we can barbecue, 1793 00:40:47,820 --> 00:40:49,321 but you won't get burned 1794 00:40:47,820 --> 00:40:49,321 on Wall Street. 1795 00:40:49,405 --> 00:40:51,198 $10, $10, right here. 1796 00:40:51,282 --> 00:40:53,492 - The results of a new survey 1797 00:40:51,282 --> 00:40:53,492 from "CBS News" 1798 00:40:53,492 --> 00:40:56,162 and "The New York Times" 1799 00:40:53,492 --> 00:40:56,162 revealed the financial hardship 1800 00:40:56,245 --> 00:40:58,622 is taking a psychological toll 1801 00:40:56,245 --> 00:40:58,622 on families, 1802 00:40:58,706 --> 00:41:00,458 but there's 1803 00:40:58,706 --> 00:41:00,458 one silver-lining 1804 00:41:00,458 --> 00:41:02,334 in an otherwise 1805 00:41:00,458 --> 00:41:02,334 heart-breaking report. 1806 00:41:02,418 --> 00:41:04,462 The challenge has 1807 00:41:02,418 --> 00:41:04,462 motivated people 1808 00:41:04,462 --> 00:41:07,339 to learn new skills and 1809 00:41:04,462 --> 00:41:07,339 more than half are confident 1810 00:41:07,423 --> 00:41:10,050 their next job will be 1811 00:41:07,423 --> 00:41:10,050 as good as their last. 1812 00:41:10,134 --> 00:41:13,512 Though the American Dream has 1813 00:41:10,134 --> 00:41:13,512 evaporated for some families, 1814 00:41:13,512 --> 00:41:15,347 at least for now, 1815 00:41:13,512 --> 00:41:15,347 American optimism 1816 00:41:15,347 --> 00:41:17,975 has proved to be 1817 00:41:15,347 --> 00:41:17,975 a renewable resource 1818 00:41:18,058 --> 00:41:19,977 and perhaps 1819 00:41:18,058 --> 00:41:19,977 the most important tool 1820 00:41:20,060 --> 00:41:23,105 on the road to our recovery. 111094

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