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- The subprime mortgage crisis
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has left millions of Americans
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struggling to stay
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in their homes
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and Wall Street is feeling
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their pain.
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- This is the biggest point
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drop that has ever been seen.
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- If Lehman can go down
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what does that mean about
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the health of the American
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financial system?
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- We're in the midst of
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a serious financial crisis,
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and the federal government
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is responding
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with decisive action.
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- These guys have
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been gambling
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with the house money
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for years
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and it's our job
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to bail them out?
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- They lived by
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the free market,
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let them die by
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the free market.
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- The largest swindle
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in Wall Street history,
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an alleged $50 billion Ponzi
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scheme by Bernard Madoff.
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- Every corporate official
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who has chosen
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to commit a crime
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can expect
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to face the consequences.
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- Belong in jail!
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- You belong in jail, you...
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Both: Criminal!
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- The party is over.
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- Why?
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all: Why?
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- It is the chosen word
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of the non-conformist,
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the defiant,
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and the visionary.
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If you are not afraid
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to ask why...
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- Why?
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- You can change
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whatever it is you want.
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- Why?
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Why?
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Why?
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- If there was any company
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that could make energy cool
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it was Enron.
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- The Texas energy broker
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trade electricity
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like any other commodity.
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A sophisticated trading
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operation
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buys and sells billions
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of dollars worth
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of energy every day.
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It's the largest company
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of its kind in the world.
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- Enron is a company
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that deals with everyone
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with absolute integrity.
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We play by all the rules.
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We stand by our word.
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We mean what we say.
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We say what we mean.
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- Ken Lay was
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the original CEO.
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He ran Enron
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when the company was created
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out of the merger
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of two pipeline companies.
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He seemed like the ultimate
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American success story.
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- Ken Lay hired Jeff Skilling
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to innovate
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into commodity trading.
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- Every year,
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every day, every week,
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you have to come up
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with new ideas.
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- He was very charismatic.
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When you heard
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a "rah-rah" speech of his
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you just felt energized.
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I've likened him
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to a cult leader
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because he really could get
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you to drink the Kool-Aid.
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- We are doing
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the right thing.
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We are working to create open,
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competitive, fair markets.
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And in open,
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competitive, fair markets
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prices are lower and customers
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get better service.
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- You're the good guys?
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- We are the good guys.
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We are on the side of angels.
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- The pendulum in business,
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as in many other aspects,
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tends to swing too far
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in either direction,
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and this was an era
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of de-regulation.
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- The de-regulation of the
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energy industry in California
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is causing one problem
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after another.
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- Enron was very good
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at weakening
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existing rules and regulations
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and then taking advantage
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of the space
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between the rules.
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- In the midst
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of this heat wave
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an energy emergency has been
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declared in California today.
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- Californians could be
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spending
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part of another day
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in the dark.
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- The energy crisis
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in California
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was not just
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a force of nature.
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It was a result
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of market manipulation
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by energy generators
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and producers like Enron.
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ENRON TRADER: I want you
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guys to
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get a little creative...
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PLANET OPERATOR: Okay.
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ENRON TRADER: ...and come
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up with a reason
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to go down.
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PLANT OPERATOR: Okay, so
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we're just coming down for
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some maintenance, like a
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forced outage type thing?
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ENRON TRADER: Right.
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PLANT OPERATOR:
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And that's cool?
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ENRON TRADER: Hopefully.
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- They were gaming
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their system,
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withholding power
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at the borders,
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taking power plants offline,
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and it was devastating
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to California's economy.
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ENRON TRADER: They had to do
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a rolling blackout through
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the town and there was
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a red light there
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he didn't see.
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ENRON TRAADER 2:
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That's beautiful.
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ENRON TRADER 1:
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This is causing animosity
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throughout the state now.
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Cars are blowing up.
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- They had strategies
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for raping and pillaging
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California
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called "Death Star,"
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"Get Shorty," "Ricochet."
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- As the lights went out
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on the West Coast
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Enron's wholesale revenues
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quadrupled
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from $12 billion
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to 48 billion,
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and doubled again
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three months later.
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- Every time there was
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a shortage
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or a little bit
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of a price spike
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it's always collusion,
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or conspiracy, or something.
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It always makes people
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feel better that way.
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- But you know as well
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as I do that the price--
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it's nice for a business.
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You're in the business
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of making money
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for your shareholders, right?
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As a company.
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- Yeah.
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- So, you would be foolish,
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as you say,
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to turn down
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the kind of money
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you could make
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this past winter in California.
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Isn't there--
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- I think you put words
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in my mouth there.
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- What happened
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in California
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was a flashing red signal
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about the nature
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of what Enron was all about.
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But what brought them down
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was just the sheer brazenness
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and the scope
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of their manipulation.
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- The SCC
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is now investigating
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Enron's accounting procedures
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after the company admitted
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it inflated earnings
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by more than
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half a billion dollars.
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- Enron, the OFEs.
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- Enron had businesses
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that were losing
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immense amounts of money.
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And so the company CFO,
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Andy Fastow,
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found extremely creative
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accounting methods
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in order to hide the losses,
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hide the debt,
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show investors profits
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that didn't actually exist yet
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in order to please Wall Street
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and keep its stock price high.
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- This week it was revealed
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that in the very same period
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when an in-house
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whistle-blower
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named Sherron Watkins
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was privately warning
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Chairman Ken Lay that...
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Lay was assuring
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employees that...
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And in fact urging them
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to buy more company stock.
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- Leadership knew
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that we had cooked the books,
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and yet Ken Lay,
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through the fall of 2001,
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was still selling stock,
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telling others to buy,
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but he was dumping.
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- They got theirs,
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but we're not gonna get ours.
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- Wooten and many others
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who work for Enron
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or a subsidiary saw
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their retirement nest eggs,
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made up heavily
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of Enron shares,
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wiped out this month.
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Worse, they are powerless
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to stop the hemorrhaging
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because Enron has blocked them
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from making any changes
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in their retirement plans.
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- When I saw the stock drop
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I called to sell,
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and was told
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that I was locked out.
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So I had to stand by
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and watch my savings disappear.
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- Many of the nation's
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top banks and mutual funds
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were also heavily invested
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in Enron.
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The company is widely expected
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to become
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the biggest bankruptcy case
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in history.
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- Enron was the moment
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that we realized that so much
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of the business world
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was not what we thought.
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- Something is very wrong
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in the case of Enron.
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A lot of knowledgeable people
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on Wall Street
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were either duped
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or purposefully
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went along for the ride
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at the expense
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of thousands of others.
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This is not a story
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of a few bad people.
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This is a story
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of a lot of bad people.
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They were aided and abetted
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by accountants, by lawyers.
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There was no cop
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on the beat.
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You gotta put limits
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on the greed
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that drives a whole
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lot of people.
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- Enron's Kenneth Lay
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and Jeffrey Skilling
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were once among
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the most celebrated
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business leaders in America.
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Tonight
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they are convicted felons.
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- Enron was just
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the first domino.
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It was followed by WorldCom,
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by HealthSouth,
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by Tyco, by one accounting
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fraud after another,
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on, and on,
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and on.
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This belief
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that giant corporations
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are going to be restrained
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from running amok
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was revealed in this decade
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to be basically
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a fairy story
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we tell ourselves at night
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so we can sleep better.
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- No executive is too prominent
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or too powerful
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and no scheme to defraud
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is too complex or too fancy
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to avoid
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the long arm of the law.
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[applause]
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- Thank you, all.
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Please be seated.
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I am here today
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because we are taking action
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to bring many thousands
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of Americans
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closer to owning a home.
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- Home ownership
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had been expanding
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during the early and mid 2000s.
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A part of this comes from
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President Bush's
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administration
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really making this a priority.
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- One of the biggest hurdles
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of home ownership
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is getting money
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for a down payment.
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And so today I am honored
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to be here
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to sign a law that will help
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many low-income buyers
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to overcome that hurdle
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and to achieve
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an important part
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of the American Dream.
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- This was everything Americans
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were supposed to want,
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the security and stability
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of owning their home.
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And so you were supposed
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to borrow money.
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Maybe you were even supposed
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to stretch a little bit.
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Because after all,
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since the Great Depression
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on average nationwide
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home prices had only gone up.
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- If there's one area
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of the economy
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that has stood its ground
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it's the housing market.
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Still a hot market fueled
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by low interest rates
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in hopes that real estate will
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offer not only a safe haven,
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but will continue
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to gain value.
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- John and Camille Carter
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are joining
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the growing number
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of first-time home buyers.
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Convinced the time is right
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thanks to dropping
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interest rates.
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- We pre-qualified
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a week ago
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and they've went
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down since then
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so it's kind of amazing.
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We're like, "We better buy
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something this week."
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- Everyone was talking
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about property.
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They all saw buying a house
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as the kind of,
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the main way to get wealth.
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House prices kept going up
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so it seemed like a no-risk,
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no-brainer thing to do.
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- Across the U.S.
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mortgage applications
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hit an all-time
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high last week.
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- Current homeowners
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taking advantage
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of lower interest rates too,
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refinancing their homes
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as Americans seek
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to lower payments
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and put more cash
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in their wallets.
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- This business has gotten
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so competitive
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and so aggressive
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because everyone wants
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a piece of the American Dream,
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the housing market.
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And there was this rampant fear
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of missing out.
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People started flipping houses.
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They were quitting their jobs
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to buy houses
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and to sell them
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at a higher price.
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- I don't see a bubble.
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I see prices continuing
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to climb at a steady rate.
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- There was a sort
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of euphoria where
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the American Dream
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of owning a home converged
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with the American Dream
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of risk-free investment,
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or you might say the myth
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of risk-free investments.
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[tense music]
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- New numbers out tonight
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suggest more than ever
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that the housing sector
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of the American economy
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is something
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of a house of cards.
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- The housing bubble started
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to come undone in 2006, 2007,
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and suddenly people started
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to default,
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and then they started
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to default in big numbers.
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It really became
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a domino effect
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and that devastated
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whole communities.
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- From bad to worse
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in the mortgage meltdown
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home prices experience
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their biggest drop
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in more than 20 years.
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- Two out of ten
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who bought their homes
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in the last two years
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are already upside down.
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- There were good intentions
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in this country
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about increased
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home ownership,
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but in the last years
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of the bubble
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that's ground cover for some
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very pernicious activities.
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- In the last six months
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Americans have seen
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their investments shrink,
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their property values plummet,
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and the country edge closer
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towards a recession,
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and at the heart
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of the problem
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is something called
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the subprime mortgage crisis.
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- Loans made to borrowers
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with low credit scores
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or no money
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for a down payment
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are commonly called
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subprime mortgages,
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00:12:00,553 --> 00:12:01,762
and the market for them
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has exploded
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in this country of late.
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- There's some decent aspects
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to subprime lending.
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It's an effort
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to reach people
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maybe whos credit
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isn't as good.
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An effort to try
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to give them the ability
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to move up and to reach
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the home-ownership dream.
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- But like so much else,
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it starts as a good idea
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that eventually gets perverted.
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That's--honestly,
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the history of the modern age
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of finance is that.
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- Washington has pretty much
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failed miserably
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for the last 10, 20 years
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as the mortgage lending market
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has changed.
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What Washington
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has been concerned about
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is making it easier
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for lenders
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to make loans
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without requiring them
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to do some due diligence.
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- It became possible
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to walk into a mortgage broker
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and buy a house
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with no provable income,
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no assets, and maybe not
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even using your real name.
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- People were saying
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to themselves,
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Eh, you're gonna give me
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a mortgage
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"when I don't have
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any money in the bank?
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"When I don't have a job?
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When I can lie on my form
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"and sign it and you'll give
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me the money anyway?
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"Essentially giving me
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a free option to buy a home?
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I'll do that all day long."
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People love free options.
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- Now, one company considered
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an innovator
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in these risky loans
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and one that aggressively
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00:13:10,039 --> 00:13:12,458
pursued that market,
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was Countrywide Financial.
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The company made a fortune
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and so did its CEO.
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- This may well become
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the deeply tanned face
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of the mortgage mess.
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The face belongs
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to Angelo Mozilo,
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the once celebrated CEO
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of Countrywide.
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Now facing allegations
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of predatory lending
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and rapacious greed.
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- If you don't bear
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personal responsibility
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I don't know who does.
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- I do take full responsibility
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for anything that happens
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at Countrywide.
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- Mortgage lenders like
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AmeriQuest,
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and Countrywide,
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and New century
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concocted a whole series
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of loan products
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pedaling them aggressively
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to people
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who did not have the ability
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to pay those loans back.
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- When they say, "Sign here.
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Sign here. Sign here."
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And they tell you that they've
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told you everything
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that's important about the loan
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you think they have
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and you just sign.
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- [sobs]
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I just feel so stupid.
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- The whole system
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was designed
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00:14:08,806 --> 00:14:11,517
to go after people
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00:14:08,806 --> 00:14:11,517
with marginal means
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00:14:11,517 --> 00:14:15,229
and then to put them in
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the highest cost loan possible
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'cause those are the ones
607
00:14:15,312 --> 00:14:17,231
that paid the most fees.
608
00:14:17,314 --> 00:14:20,442
- The banks didn't have
609
00:14:17,314 --> 00:14:20,442
to care anymore
610
00:14:20,526 --> 00:14:22,611
about whether the loan
611
00:14:20,526 --> 00:14:22,611
got paid back
612
00:14:22,695 --> 00:14:25,239
because the loan had been sold
613
00:14:22,695 --> 00:14:25,239
to Wall Street.
614
00:14:25,322 --> 00:14:27,366
- Instead of keeping
615
00:14:25,322 --> 00:14:27,366
the dicey loans
616
00:14:27,449 --> 00:14:29,118
in their own portfolios,
617
00:14:29,201 --> 00:14:31,412
the big banks
618
00:14:29,201 --> 00:14:31,412
and giant mortgage companies
619
00:14:31,495 --> 00:14:33,205
that originally underwrote them
620
00:14:33,289 --> 00:14:35,875
sold them off to big
621
00:14:33,289 --> 00:14:35,875
New York investment houses.
622
00:14:35,958 --> 00:14:38,210
- Firms like Bear Stearns
623
00:14:35,958 --> 00:14:38,210
and Merrill Lynch
624
00:14:38,210 --> 00:14:40,421
sliced the loans
625
00:14:38,210 --> 00:14:40,421
into little pieces,
626
00:14:40,421 --> 00:14:42,756
packaged them up
627
00:14:40,421 --> 00:14:42,756
with other investments,
628
00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,425
then sold them
629
00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,425
to their best customers
630
00:14:44,508 --> 00:14:45,801
around the world
631
00:14:45,885 --> 00:14:48,220
as high-yield,
632
00:14:45,885 --> 00:14:48,220
mortgage backed securities,
633
00:14:48,304 --> 00:14:51,056
turning sows' ears
634
00:14:48,304 --> 00:14:51,056
into silk purses.
635
00:14:51,140 --> 00:14:53,267
- Instead just buying
636
00:14:51,140 --> 00:14:53,267
one mortgage
637
00:14:53,350 --> 00:14:56,103
they would take a thousand,
638
00:14:53,350 --> 00:14:56,103
put them into a package,
639
00:14:56,103 --> 00:14:58,606
and then cut them
640
00:14:56,103 --> 00:14:58,606
into a thousand pieces,
641
00:14:58,689 --> 00:15:02,776
and then sell the pieces
642
00:14:58,689 --> 00:15:02,776
as a much safer investment.
643
00:15:02,860 --> 00:15:04,653
- The idea was
644
00:15:02,860 --> 00:15:04,653
that all this
645
00:15:04,653 --> 00:15:06,155
was diversified in
646
00:15:04,653 --> 00:15:06,155
a hundred different ways,
647
00:15:06,238 --> 00:15:08,782
everybody had little,
648
00:15:06,238 --> 00:15:08,782
little pieces of it
649
00:15:08,866 --> 00:15:12,161
and therefore if one of
650
00:15:08,866 --> 00:15:12,161
the little pieces went down,
651
00:15:12,161 --> 00:15:13,829
the other piece
652
00:15:12,161 --> 00:15:13,829
wouldn't go down.
653
00:15:13,829 --> 00:15:16,123
But that was the fallacy
654
00:15:13,829 --> 00:15:16,123
of the whole scheme.
655
00:15:16,206 --> 00:15:18,208
- From Main Street
656
00:15:16,206 --> 00:15:18,208
to Wall Street
657
00:15:18,292 --> 00:15:20,461
today's foreclosure numbers
658
00:15:18,292 --> 00:15:20,461
are foreboding.
659
00:15:20,461 --> 00:15:23,631
- They're rising so fast
660
00:15:20,461 --> 00:15:23,631
that they could soon involve
661
00:15:23,714 --> 00:15:26,634
one in a hundred
662
00:15:23,714 --> 00:15:26,634
American homes.
663
00:15:26,717 --> 00:15:28,552
- The fact that millions
664
00:15:26,717 --> 00:15:28,552
of Americans
665
00:15:28,636 --> 00:15:31,472
were getting mortgages that
666
00:15:28,636 --> 00:15:31,472
they should never have had.
667
00:15:31,472 --> 00:15:33,724
That's kind of
668
00:15:31,472 --> 00:15:33,724
an isolated virus,
669
00:15:33,807 --> 00:15:35,851
but Wall Street,
670
00:15:33,807 --> 00:15:35,851
ooh.
671
00:15:35,851 --> 00:15:38,395
Wall Street sent the virus
672
00:15:35,851 --> 00:15:38,395
all around the world.
673
00:15:39,146 --> 00:15:41,315
- Good evening,
674
00:15:39,146 --> 00:15:41,315
there is no shortage
675
00:15:41,398 --> 00:15:44,443
of evidence showing
676
00:15:41,398 --> 00:15:44,443
a U.S. economy either
677
00:15:44,526 --> 00:15:47,154
already in recession
678
00:15:44,526 --> 00:15:47,154
or heading there.
679
00:15:47,154 --> 00:15:50,115
Every day there is
680
00:15:47,154 --> 00:15:50,115
a new shock to the system.
681
00:15:50,199 --> 00:15:52,159
- The housing slump has turned
682
00:15:50,199 --> 00:15:52,159
many lives
683
00:15:52,242 --> 00:15:54,286
and bank accounts upside down.
684
00:15:54,286 --> 00:15:56,997
- The DOW futures down sharply
685
00:15:54,286 --> 00:15:56,997
for today's open
686
00:15:56,997 --> 00:15:59,541
as more banks report losses
687
00:15:56,997 --> 00:15:59,541
in the billions.
688
00:15:59,625 --> 00:16:01,293
- Mr. President,
689
00:15:59,625 --> 00:16:01,293
economists say
690
00:16:01,377 --> 00:16:05,214
that the nation is at
691
00:16:01,377 --> 00:16:05,214
increasing risk of recession.
692
00:16:05,297 --> 00:16:07,132
What do you say?
693
00:16:07,216 --> 00:16:09,009
- I say that
694
00:16:07,216 --> 00:16:09,009
the fundamentals
695
00:16:09,009 --> 00:16:12,012
of our nation's economy
696
00:16:09,009 --> 00:16:12,012
are strong.
697
00:16:12,012 --> 00:16:13,806
- Firms began
698
00:16:12,012 --> 00:16:13,806
to announce losses
699
00:16:13,889 --> 00:16:15,683
from subprime mortgage
700
00:16:13,889 --> 00:16:15,683
backed securities,
701
00:16:15,766 --> 00:16:17,726
but the whole idea was
702
00:16:15,766 --> 00:16:17,726
this is under control.
703
00:16:17,810 --> 00:16:19,061
And Ben Bernanke,
704
00:16:17,810 --> 00:16:19,061
who was then
705
00:16:19,144 --> 00:16:20,396
the chairman
706
00:16:19,144 --> 00:16:20,396
of the Federal Reserve,
707
00:16:20,479 --> 00:16:22,189
and Hank Paulson,
708
00:16:20,479 --> 00:16:22,189
who was then
709
00:16:22,272 --> 00:16:23,899
the secretary
710
00:16:22,272 --> 00:16:23,899
of the treasury said,
711
00:16:23,983 --> 00:16:25,234
basically, this is contained.
712
00:16:25,317 --> 00:16:28,237
- The U.S. economy
713
00:16:25,317 --> 00:16:28,237
is diverse and resilient
714
00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,364
and our long-term fundamentals
715
00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,364
are healthy.
716
00:16:30,364 --> 00:16:32,700
I believe that our economy
717
00:16:30,364 --> 00:16:32,700
will continue to grow
718
00:16:32,700 --> 00:16:34,201
although at a lesser pace
719
00:16:34,201 --> 00:16:35,911
than we have seen
720
00:16:34,201 --> 00:16:35,911
in recent years.
721
00:16:35,995 --> 00:16:39,206
- Hank Paulson had been
722
00:16:35,995 --> 00:16:39,206
the chief executive
723
00:16:39,206 --> 00:16:40,582
of Goldman Sachs.
724
00:16:40,666 --> 00:16:43,085
So he was an insider
725
00:16:40,666 --> 00:16:43,085
for better or worse.
726
00:16:43,085 --> 00:16:44,378
He knew where
727
00:16:43,085 --> 00:16:44,378
the bodies were buried
728
00:16:44,378 --> 00:16:45,921
and he knew
729
00:16:44,378 --> 00:16:45,921
how these markets work.
730
00:16:46,005 --> 00:16:47,798
- Testifying before
731
00:16:46,005 --> 00:16:47,798
a House committee,
732
00:16:47,881 --> 00:16:49,925
Federal Reserve Chairman,
733
00:16:47,881 --> 00:16:49,925
Ben Bernanke,
734
00:16:50,009 --> 00:16:52,469
through his weight
735
00:16:50,009 --> 00:16:52,469
behind a stimulus package.
736
00:16:52,553 --> 00:16:54,763
- Getting money to people
737
00:16:52,553 --> 00:16:54,763
quickly is good
738
00:16:54,847 --> 00:16:56,598
and getting money to low-
739
00:16:54,847 --> 00:16:56,598
and moderate-income people
740
00:16:56,598 --> 00:16:58,976
is good in the sense
741
00:16:56,598 --> 00:16:58,976
of getting bang for buck.
742
00:16:59,059 --> 00:17:01,770
- Ben Bernanke was an expert
743
00:16:59,059 --> 00:17:01,770
in the Great Depression.
744
00:17:01,770 --> 00:17:03,480
His one focus was to avoid
745
00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,274
another Great Depression
746
00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,274
in this country,
747
00:17:05,274 --> 00:17:07,985
and here we enter
748
00:17:05,274 --> 00:17:07,985
the Great Recession.
749
00:17:08,068 --> 00:17:10,112
- The fallout from
750
00:17:08,068 --> 00:17:10,112
the country's mortgage mess
751
00:17:10,195 --> 00:17:11,280
deepened today.
752
00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,615
A major Wall Street firm,
753
00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,615
Bear Sterns,
754
00:17:13,615 --> 00:17:15,659
reported its first
755
00:17:13,615 --> 00:17:15,659
quarterly loss
756
00:17:15,743 --> 00:17:17,119
in its 84-year history.
757
00:17:17,202 --> 00:17:19,121
- Bear Sterns was
758
00:17:17,202 --> 00:17:19,121
an investment bank,
759
00:17:19,204 --> 00:17:21,999
and investment banks
760
00:17:19,204 --> 00:17:21,999
are not the same as banks.
761
00:17:22,082 --> 00:17:23,834
They do not have
762
00:17:22,082 --> 00:17:23,834
small depositors.
763
00:17:23,917 --> 00:17:26,128
You and I cannot go in
764
00:17:23,917 --> 00:17:26,128
and open up an account.
765
00:17:26,128 --> 00:17:27,504
Investment bank clients
766
00:17:27,588 --> 00:17:29,173
are very sophisticated
767
00:17:27,588 --> 00:17:29,173
investors
768
00:17:29,256 --> 00:17:31,216
who both do
769
00:17:29,256 --> 00:17:31,216
and should know
770
00:17:31,300 --> 00:17:32,718
the risk of the institution
771
00:17:32,801 --> 00:17:34,303
when they do business
772
00:17:32,801 --> 00:17:34,303
with them.
773
00:17:34,386 --> 00:17:36,680
- Bear Sterns was one
774
00:17:34,386 --> 00:17:36,680
of Wall Street's major firms,
775
00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:41,143
but with a slightly riskier,
776
00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:41,143
edgier reputation.
777
00:17:41,143 --> 00:17:43,353
- Wherein Goldman Sachs
778
00:17:41,143 --> 00:17:43,353
is the queen
779
00:17:43,353 --> 00:17:46,231
and Morgan Stanley is--
780
00:17:43,353 --> 00:17:46,231
you know, went to Harvard,
781
00:17:46,315 --> 00:17:47,566
Bear Sterns was
782
00:17:47,566 --> 00:17:49,568
the guy flipping you the bird
783
00:17:47,566 --> 00:17:49,568
in a corner.
784
00:17:49,568 --> 00:17:52,071
And it had probably
785
00:17:49,568 --> 00:17:52,071
a greater percentage
786
00:17:52,154 --> 00:17:55,074
of this toxic sludge,
787
00:17:52,154 --> 00:17:55,074
mortgage backed securities
788
00:17:55,074 --> 00:17:57,534
in its vaults
789
00:17:55,074 --> 00:17:57,534
than anybody else.
790
00:17:57,534 --> 00:17:59,578
- It's been a hard week
791
00:17:57,534 --> 00:17:59,578
for shares at Bear Stearns
792
00:17:59,661 --> 00:18:01,914
as the firm has been buffeted
793
00:17:59,661 --> 00:18:01,914
by constant rumors
794
00:18:01,997 --> 00:18:03,582
of a looming liquidity problem.
795
00:18:03,665 --> 00:18:05,918
Bear maintains
796
00:18:03,665 --> 00:18:05,918
that its balance sheet,
797
00:18:05,918 --> 00:18:08,045
capital positions, all strong.
798
00:18:08,045 --> 00:18:10,422
- Questioning a Wall Street
799
00:18:08,045 --> 00:18:10,422
firm's liquidity
800
00:18:10,422 --> 00:18:14,259
is very much akin to yelling
801
00:18:10,422 --> 00:18:14,259
fire in a crowded movie house.
802
00:18:14,343 --> 00:18:18,931
Once that cat is out the bag
803
00:18:14,343 --> 00:18:18,931
it risks triggering a stampede.
804
00:18:19,014 --> 00:18:20,641
- Should I be worried
805
00:18:19,014 --> 00:18:20,641
about Bear Stearns
806
00:18:20,724 --> 00:18:22,267
in terms of liquidity
807
00:18:20,724 --> 00:18:22,267
and get my money out of there?
808
00:18:22,351 --> 00:18:24,311
No! No! No!
809
00:18:24,394 --> 00:18:25,938
Bear Stearns is fine.
810
00:18:25,938 --> 00:18:27,439
Do not take your money out.
811
00:18:27,523 --> 00:18:30,192
- Our liquidity position
812
00:18:27,523 --> 00:18:30,192
has not changed at all.
813
00:18:30,275 --> 00:18:32,986
Our balance sheet
814
00:18:30,275 --> 00:18:32,986
has not weakened at all.
815
00:18:33,070 --> 00:18:35,823
- If you have to prove
816
00:18:33,070 --> 00:18:35,823
that you have credit,
817
00:18:35,823 --> 00:18:37,282
you don't have any.
818
00:18:37,282 --> 00:18:39,284
If you have to prove
819
00:18:37,282 --> 00:18:39,284
that these assets
820
00:18:39,284 --> 00:18:42,162
are worth what
821
00:18:39,284 --> 00:18:42,162
you say they are, they're not.
822
00:18:42,162 --> 00:18:46,708
That dawning fear
823
00:18:42,162 --> 00:18:46,708
that all of these mortgages
824
00:18:46,792 --> 00:18:50,379
might not be strong
825
00:18:46,792 --> 00:18:50,379
and reliable
826
00:18:50,462 --> 00:18:52,464
suddenly had
827
00:18:50,462 --> 00:18:52,464
everybody second-guessing.
828
00:18:52,464 --> 00:18:54,341
- For weeks there
829
00:18:52,464 --> 00:18:54,341
had been whispers
830
00:18:54,341 --> 00:18:56,176
of trouble at Bear Stearns.
831
00:18:56,176 --> 00:18:58,971
by today's opening bell
832
00:18:56,176 --> 00:18:58,971
it was a full-blown alarm.
833
00:18:58,971 --> 00:19:00,639
This morning,
834
00:18:58,971 --> 00:19:00,639
Schwartz said
835
00:19:00,722 --> 00:19:02,349
that the firm's cash position
836
00:19:02,432 --> 00:19:05,310
had deteriorated sharply
837
00:19:02,432 --> 00:19:05,310
over the past day.
838
00:19:05,310 --> 00:19:07,187
- The rumor became
839
00:19:05,310 --> 00:19:07,187
the reality.
840
00:19:07,271 --> 00:19:09,398
All the rumors got
841
00:19:07,271 --> 00:19:09,398
way too ahead
842
00:19:09,481 --> 00:19:11,066
of even the people's ability
843
00:19:09,481 --> 00:19:11,066
to manage it
844
00:19:11,150 --> 00:19:12,568
and that's really the story.
845
00:19:12,568 --> 00:19:14,903
- Who could possibly imagine
846
00:19:12,568 --> 00:19:14,903
that Bear Stearns,
847
00:19:14,903 --> 00:19:17,197
after 85 years
848
00:19:14,903 --> 00:19:17,197
of profitability,
849
00:19:17,281 --> 00:19:19,199
never having a losing quarter,
850
00:19:19,199 --> 00:19:22,911
would have a losing quarter
851
00:19:19,199 --> 00:19:22,911
in the fourth quarter of 2007
852
00:19:22,995 --> 00:19:25,038
and be out of business
853
00:19:22,995 --> 00:19:25,038
2 1/2 months later,
854
00:19:25,038 --> 00:19:26,248
in a week?
855
00:19:26,248 --> 00:19:27,708
- The fact that
856
00:19:26,248 --> 00:19:27,708
a Wall Street firm
857
00:19:27,791 --> 00:19:29,793
could lose 90%
858
00:19:27,791 --> 00:19:29,793
of its value
859
00:19:29,877 --> 00:19:32,254
in one weekend
860
00:19:29,877 --> 00:19:32,254
has some convinced
861
00:19:32,337 --> 00:19:34,882
the markets and the economy
862
00:19:32,337 --> 00:19:34,882
have farther to fall.
863
00:19:34,882 --> 00:19:37,092
- While most of the country
864
00:19:34,882 --> 00:19:37,092
was looking at this
865
00:19:37,176 --> 00:19:39,636
as one investment firm
866
00:19:37,176 --> 00:19:39,636
that maybe you've heard of,
867
00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,763
maybe you haven't,
868
00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,763
is teetering.
869
00:19:41,763 --> 00:19:44,892
It's a very different story
870
00:19:41,763 --> 00:19:44,892
in Washington.
871
00:19:44,892 --> 00:19:46,560
- An investment bank
872
00:19:44,892 --> 00:19:46,560
collapse,
873
00:19:46,643 --> 00:19:48,896
one as big as Bear Stearns
874
00:19:48,979 --> 00:19:52,149
is what Wall Street experts
875
00:19:48,979 --> 00:19:52,149
would have called
876
00:19:52,149 --> 00:19:53,984
an economic nightmare scenario.
877
00:19:54,067 --> 00:19:56,862
Here's the good news,
878
00:19:54,067 --> 00:19:56,862
it's been averted.
879
00:19:56,945 --> 00:19:59,698
Bear Stearns has been
880
00:19:56,945 --> 00:19:59,698
bailed out by the government,
881
00:19:59,781 --> 00:20:02,659
and now they've been
882
00:19:59,781 --> 00:20:02,659
bought out by a competitor.
883
00:20:02,659 --> 00:20:06,038
- The federal government
884
00:20:02,659 --> 00:20:06,038
had never stepped in before
885
00:20:06,121 --> 00:20:10,000
in the history of our republic
886
00:20:06,121 --> 00:20:10,000
to save an investment bank,
887
00:20:10,083 --> 00:20:13,545
but the Fed decided to change
888
00:20:10,083 --> 00:20:13,545
that in Bear Stearns' case
889
00:20:13,629 --> 00:20:15,547
because they decided
890
00:20:13,629 --> 00:20:15,547
that it wasn't because
891
00:20:15,631 --> 00:20:17,966
Bear Stearns was too big
892
00:20:15,631 --> 00:20:17,966
to fail as we'd like to say.
893
00:20:17,966 --> 00:20:20,010
It was too
894
00:20:17,966 --> 00:20:20,010
inter-connected to fail.
895
00:20:20,010 --> 00:20:21,845
- Given the current
896
00:20:20,010 --> 00:20:21,845
exceptional pressures
897
00:20:21,845 --> 00:20:23,847
on the global economy
898
00:20:21,845 --> 00:20:23,847
and financial system
899
00:20:23,931 --> 00:20:26,642
the damage caused
900
00:20:23,931 --> 00:20:26,642
by a default by Bear Stearns
901
00:20:26,642 --> 00:20:28,477
could have been severe
902
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:29,978
and extremely difficult
903
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:29,978
to contain.
904
00:20:30,062 --> 00:20:32,940
- The Fed knows this
905
00:20:30,062 --> 00:20:32,940
isn't just one firm.
906
00:20:33,023 --> 00:20:36,026
That when one tall building
907
00:20:33,023 --> 00:20:36,026
on Wall Street falls
908
00:20:36,026 --> 00:20:37,569
it's probably gonna land
909
00:20:36,026 --> 00:20:37,569
on another one.
910
00:20:37,569 --> 00:20:39,196
Which could land
911
00:20:37,569 --> 00:20:39,196
on another one.
912
00:20:39,279 --> 00:20:41,073
And it was
913
00:20:39,279 --> 00:20:41,073
that institutional risk,
914
00:20:41,156 --> 00:20:42,407
the idea that you might have
915
00:20:42,407 --> 00:20:45,035
an uncontrollable fire
916
00:20:42,407 --> 00:20:45,035
on Wall Street
917
00:20:45,118 --> 00:20:46,745
that primarily
918
00:20:45,118 --> 00:20:46,745
concerned Bernanke
919
00:20:46,828 --> 00:20:48,455
and the policymakers
920
00:20:46,828 --> 00:20:48,455
in Washington.
921
00:20:48,538 --> 00:20:51,708
- I think the big question
922
00:20:48,538 --> 00:20:51,708
on a lot of people's minds is
923
00:20:51,792 --> 00:20:54,753
are there other banks
924
00:20:51,792 --> 00:20:54,753
in a situation similar
925
00:20:54,836 --> 00:20:57,756
to Bear Stearns right now.
926
00:20:54,836 --> 00:20:57,756
Is this just the beginning?
927
00:20:57,839 --> 00:21:01,260
- Well,
928
00:20:57,839 --> 00:21:01,260
our financial institutions,
929
00:21:01,343 --> 00:21:03,804
our banks and investment banks,
930
00:21:01,343 --> 00:21:03,804
are very strong.
931
00:21:03,887 --> 00:21:05,764
And I'm convinced
932
00:21:03,887 --> 00:21:05,764
that they're gonna
933
00:21:05,764 --> 00:21:08,642
come out of
934
00:21:05,764 --> 00:21:08,642
this situation very strong.
935
00:21:08,725 --> 00:21:11,979
Our markets are resilient,
936
00:21:08,725 --> 00:21:11,979
they're flexible.
937
00:21:12,062 --> 00:21:13,897
I'm quite confident
938
00:21:12,062 --> 00:21:13,897
we're gonna
939
00:21:13,981 --> 00:21:15,649
work our way
940
00:21:13,981 --> 00:21:15,649
through this situation.
941
00:21:15,732 --> 00:21:17,276
- After Bear Stearns collapsed
942
00:21:17,276 --> 00:21:18,610
most people kind of thought,
943
00:21:18,694 --> 00:21:19,778
"Oh, whew.
944
00:21:18,694 --> 00:21:19,778
We dodged that bullet."
945
00:21:19,861 --> 00:21:21,280
I mean,
946
00:21:19,861 --> 00:21:21,280
there was debate about it,
947
00:21:21,363 --> 00:21:22,990
there was criticism
948
00:21:21,363 --> 00:21:22,990
of the government stepping in,
949
00:21:22,990 --> 00:21:25,450
but the sense was
950
00:21:22,990 --> 00:21:25,450
it was a ripple.
951
00:21:25,534 --> 00:21:27,661
You know, not a bombshell.
952
00:21:27,661 --> 00:21:29,955
There's no question about it...
953
00:21:29,955 --> 00:21:32,291
Wall Street got drunk.
954
00:21:32,291 --> 00:21:32,958
That's one of the
955
00:21:32,291 --> 00:21:32,958
reasons I asked you
956
00:21:32,958 --> 00:21:36,044
to turn off your
957
00:21:32,958 --> 00:21:36,044
TV cameras.
958
00:21:36,044 --> 00:21:39,089
It got drunk, and
959
00:21:36,044 --> 00:21:39,089
now it's got a hangover.
960
00:21:39,089 --> 00:21:41,800
The question is, how
961
00:21:39,089 --> 00:21:41,800
long will it sober up?
962
00:21:42,551 --> 00:21:45,387
- Wall Street is bracing
963
00:21:42,551 --> 00:21:45,387
for another possible victim
964
00:21:45,470 --> 00:21:47,389
of the housing
965
00:21:45,470 --> 00:21:47,389
and credit crisis.
966
00:21:47,472 --> 00:21:49,266
Lehman Brothers,
967
00:21:47,472 --> 00:21:49,266
one of the largest
968
00:21:49,266 --> 00:21:51,268
and oldest brokerage firms
969
00:21:49,266 --> 00:21:51,268
in the country
970
00:21:51,268 --> 00:21:54,604
has been experiencing
971
00:21:51,268 --> 00:21:54,604
what many fear is a slow death
972
00:21:54,688 --> 00:21:56,273
because of the demise
973
00:21:54,688 --> 00:21:56,273
of its rival,
974
00:21:56,356 --> 00:21:58,608
Bear Stearns, back in April.
975
00:21:58,608 --> 00:22:01,778
- There had been rumblings
976
00:21:58,608 --> 00:22:01,778
that if Bear went down
977
00:22:01,778 --> 00:22:04,156
Lehman would be
978
00:22:01,778 --> 00:22:04,156
in severe trouble,
979
00:22:04,239 --> 00:22:06,450
and Dick Fuld,
980
00:22:04,239 --> 00:22:06,450
their CEO,
981
00:22:06,533 --> 00:22:08,952
had been warned
982
00:22:06,533 --> 00:22:08,952
that you may be next.
983
00:22:08,952 --> 00:22:11,788
- Hank Paulson, who knew
984
00:22:08,952 --> 00:22:11,788
him from his Goldman days,
985
00:22:11,872 --> 00:22:13,332
had sat down with him
986
00:22:11,872 --> 00:22:13,332
and said,
987
00:22:13,415 --> 00:22:15,042
"You might want to think
988
00:22:13,415 --> 00:22:15,042
of finding a partner.
989
00:22:15,125 --> 00:22:16,376
Somebody to take you over.
990
00:22:16,460 --> 00:22:18,045
Get somebody
991
00:22:16,460 --> 00:22:18,045
with a bigger balance sheet."
992
00:22:18,128 --> 00:22:21,840
And Fuld had famously dismissed
993
00:22:18,128 --> 00:22:21,840
those as absurd
994
00:22:21,923 --> 00:22:23,508
and completely unnecessary.
995
00:22:23,508 --> 00:22:25,343
- Wall Street
996
00:22:23,508 --> 00:22:25,343
is on edge tonight
997
00:22:25,343 --> 00:22:27,345
after a weekend of talks
998
00:22:25,343 --> 00:22:27,345
ended rescuing
999
00:22:27,429 --> 00:22:29,681
the struggling Lehman Brothers
1000
00:22:27,429 --> 00:22:29,681
investment bank.
1001
00:22:29,765 --> 00:22:32,893
- All weekend top executives
1002
00:22:29,765 --> 00:22:32,893
of rival banks
1003
00:22:32,976 --> 00:22:34,394
along with Federal Reserve
1004
00:22:34,478 --> 00:22:35,979
and Treasury Department
1005
00:22:34,478 --> 00:22:35,979
officials
1006
00:22:36,063 --> 00:22:37,898
met under tight security
1007
00:22:37,898 --> 00:22:41,359
to discuss plans to buy Lehman
1008
00:22:37,898 --> 00:22:41,359
whole or in parts.
1009
00:22:41,443 --> 00:22:43,904
- Lehman is on the ropes.
1010
00:22:43,987 --> 00:22:47,282
Every CEO of virtually all
1011
00:22:43,987 --> 00:22:47,282
the big banks
1012
00:22:47,365 --> 00:22:48,533
gets a phone call.
1013
00:22:48,533 --> 00:22:50,744
"Get down
1014
00:22:48,533 --> 00:22:50,744
to the Federal Reserve."
1015
00:22:50,827 --> 00:22:52,746
Hank Paulson had
1016
00:22:50,827 --> 00:22:52,746
been lambasted
1017
00:22:52,746 --> 00:22:55,082
for effectively bailing out
1018
00:22:52,746 --> 00:22:55,082
Bear Stearns,
1019
00:22:55,165 --> 00:22:57,626
and so he sat all of these
1020
00:22:55,165 --> 00:22:57,626
CEOs in a room
1021
00:22:57,709 --> 00:23:00,629
and said,
1022
00:22:57,709 --> 00:23:00,629
"It's your problem. Fix it."
1023
00:23:00,712 --> 00:23:01,880
- Pretty clear
1024
00:23:00,712 --> 00:23:01,880
the government is not
1025
00:23:01,963 --> 00:23:03,131
going to bail anyone else out.
1026
00:23:03,215 --> 00:23:04,591
At least that's the message
1027
00:23:03,215 --> 00:23:04,591
they're sending.
1028
00:23:04,674 --> 00:23:06,259
- More than clear.
1029
00:23:04,674 --> 00:23:06,259
Loud and clear.
1030
00:23:06,259 --> 00:23:07,594
In fact,
1031
00:23:06,259 --> 00:23:07,594
when I was talking
1032
00:23:07,594 --> 00:23:09,638
to folks at the treasury
1033
00:23:07,594 --> 00:23:09,638
on Friday they were saying,
1034
00:23:09,721 --> 00:23:11,723
"Look, we're trying
1035
00:23:09,721 --> 00:23:11,723
to "find a buyer here,
1036
00:23:11,807 --> 00:23:12,933
but let's be clear.
1037
00:23:13,016 --> 00:23:14,810
We are not going
1038
00:23:13,016 --> 00:23:14,810
to use taxpayer money."
1039
00:23:14,893 --> 00:23:16,937
- People believed
1040
00:23:14,893 --> 00:23:16,937
that if Lehman went under
1041
00:23:16,937 --> 00:23:18,605
then the panic might spread,
1042
00:23:18,688 --> 00:23:20,774
but people
1043
00:23:18,688 --> 00:23:20,774
were equally worried that
1044
00:23:20,774 --> 00:23:23,276
if they bailed Lehman out
1045
00:23:20,774 --> 00:23:23,276
that it would be obviating
1046
00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:24,820
this idea of moral hazard.
1047
00:23:24,903 --> 00:23:26,196
If you believe
1048
00:23:24,903 --> 00:23:26,196
the U.S. government
1049
00:23:26,279 --> 00:23:27,531
is always gonna bail you out
1050
00:23:27,614 --> 00:23:30,283
well, then why wouldn't you
1051
00:23:27,614 --> 00:23:30,283
make bad decisions?
1052
00:23:30,283 --> 00:23:31,618
- The government is trying
1053
00:23:31,701 --> 00:23:33,495
to restore confidence
1054
00:23:31,701 --> 00:23:33,495
in the markets,
1055
00:23:33,578 --> 00:23:34,955
and you don't
1056
00:23:33,578 --> 00:23:34,955
restore confidence
1057
00:23:34,955 --> 00:23:37,124
by rescuing one institution
1058
00:23:34,955 --> 00:23:37,124
after another,
1059
00:23:37,124 --> 00:23:39,126
after another, after another.
1060
00:23:39,126 --> 00:23:40,627
- That Friday,
1061
00:23:39,126 --> 00:23:40,627
when Secretary Paulson and I
1062
00:23:40,627 --> 00:23:42,963
brought the market together
1063
00:23:40,627 --> 00:23:42,963
at the New York Fed.
1064
00:23:43,046 --> 00:23:46,133
I don't think any of them,
1065
00:23:43,046 --> 00:23:46,133
and really any of us
1066
00:23:46,216 --> 00:23:48,301
realized how bad
1067
00:23:46,216 --> 00:23:48,301
it was gonna get still.
1068
00:23:48,385 --> 00:23:50,137
I think we were,
1069
00:23:48,385 --> 00:23:50,137
I would say terrified
1070
00:23:50,137 --> 00:23:52,973
at that point, but probably
1071
00:23:50,137 --> 00:23:52,973
not terrified enough.
1072
00:23:52,973 --> 00:23:55,725
- Lehman Brothers,
1073
00:23:52,973 --> 00:23:55,725
for 158 years
1074
00:23:55,809 --> 00:23:57,811
a cornerstone on Wall Street.
1075
00:23:57,811 --> 00:23:59,855
Failure to find
1076
00:23:57,811 --> 00:23:59,855
a buyer over the weekend
1077
00:23:59,855 --> 00:24:01,606
means it is now bankrupt.
1078
00:24:01,690 --> 00:24:04,568
- Meanwhile, Merrill Lynch,
1079
00:24:01,690 --> 00:24:04,568
fearing it could be next
1080
00:24:04,568 --> 00:24:06,736
agreed in an act
1081
00:24:04,568 --> 00:24:06,736
of desperation
1082
00:24:06,820 --> 00:24:09,364
to a shotgun marriage
1083
00:24:06,820 --> 00:24:09,364
with Bank of America.
1084
00:24:09,364 --> 00:24:10,615
- Now we're left
1085
00:24:09,364 --> 00:24:10,615
with Morgan Stanley
1086
00:24:10,699 --> 00:24:12,033
and Goldman Sachs.
1087
00:24:12,033 --> 00:24:14,578
Out of five, three months ago,
1088
00:24:12,033 --> 00:24:14,578
there are two left.
1089
00:24:14,578 --> 00:24:17,038
- How long have you worked
1090
00:24:14,578 --> 00:24:17,038
for Lehman, sir?
1091
00:24:17,122 --> 00:24:18,540
- When they declared bankruptcy
1092
00:24:18,623 --> 00:24:20,208
I cannot explain to you
1093
00:24:20,292 --> 00:24:22,794
the shock and awe
1094
00:24:20,292 --> 00:24:22,794
in the investment community.
1095
00:24:22,878 --> 00:24:24,254
- If Lehman can go down
1096
00:24:24,337 --> 00:24:25,463
what does that mean
1097
00:24:24,337 --> 00:24:25,463
about the health
1098
00:24:25,547 --> 00:24:27,048
of the American financial
1099
00:24:25,547 --> 00:24:27,048
system right now?
1100
00:24:27,132 --> 00:24:28,967
- You're talking about
1101
00:24:27,132 --> 00:24:28,967
investment banks.
1102
00:24:29,050 --> 00:24:31,052
These are the smartest money
1103
00:24:29,050 --> 00:24:31,052
on Wall Street.
1104
00:24:31,136 --> 00:24:33,471
How have they been
1105
00:24:31,136 --> 00:24:33,471
getting it wrong for so long?
1106
00:24:33,555 --> 00:24:36,433
- They say on Wall Street
1107
00:24:33,555 --> 00:24:36,433
that nothing happens
1108
00:24:36,516 --> 00:24:39,144
until the lines
1109
00:24:36,516 --> 00:24:39,144
of fear and greed cross,
1110
00:24:39,227 --> 00:24:40,896
and there's no better example
1111
00:24:40,896 --> 00:24:43,815
of the lines
1112
00:24:40,896 --> 00:24:43,815
of fear and greed crossing
1113
00:24:43,899 --> 00:24:48,153
then the Lehman bankruptcy
1114
00:24:43,899 --> 00:24:48,153
on September 15th, 2008.
1115
00:24:48,153 --> 00:24:50,780
The markets were fearful.
1116
00:24:50,864 --> 00:24:52,282
[bell ringing]
1117
00:24:52,282 --> 00:24:54,492
- Your future, my future,
1118
00:24:52,282 --> 00:24:54,492
our future at stake.
1119
00:24:54,576 --> 00:24:57,120
A meltdown on Wall Street,
1120
00:24:54,576 --> 00:24:57,120
the worst since 9/11.
1121
00:24:57,204 --> 00:24:59,956
- This is
1122
00:24:57,204 --> 00:24:59,956
a once-in-a-half-century,
1123
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,126
probably once-in-a-century
1124
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,126
type of event.
1125
00:25:03,126 --> 00:25:04,628
- Is it the worst you've ever
1126
00:25:03,126 --> 00:25:04,628
seen in your career?
1127
00:25:04,711 --> 00:25:05,795
- Oh, by far.
1128
00:25:05,879 --> 00:25:07,797
- Because he's let Lehman
1129
00:25:05,879 --> 00:25:07,797
go under
1130
00:25:07,881 --> 00:25:10,967
there's suddenly shock
1131
00:25:07,881 --> 00:25:10,967
in the financial world
1132
00:25:10,967 --> 00:25:13,178
that Morgan Stanley's
1133
00:25:10,967 --> 00:25:13,178
gonna go under
1134
00:25:13,178 --> 00:25:16,348
and Goldman Sachs is gonna go
1135
00:25:13,178 --> 00:25:16,348
under and now you've got panic.
1136
00:25:16,431 --> 00:25:18,892
- The American people
1137
00:25:16,431 --> 00:25:18,892
can remain confident
1138
00:25:18,975 --> 00:25:21,311
in the soundness
1139
00:25:18,975 --> 00:25:21,311
and the resilience
1140
00:25:21,394 --> 00:25:22,687
of our financial system.
1141
00:25:22,771 --> 00:25:25,440
- Nobody understood
1142
00:25:22,771 --> 00:25:25,440
what was happening.
1143
00:25:25,523 --> 00:25:29,069
They couldn't believe
1144
00:25:25,523 --> 00:25:29,069
that these grand institutions
1145
00:25:29,069 --> 00:25:31,071
were about to come undone.
1146
00:25:31,071 --> 00:25:32,739
And they were waking up
1147
00:25:31,071 --> 00:25:32,739
in the morning
1148
00:25:32,822 --> 00:25:34,366
and finding out
1149
00:25:32,822 --> 00:25:34,366
it was worse today
1150
00:25:34,449 --> 00:25:36,368
than it was the day before.
1151
00:25:36,368 --> 00:25:39,246
- It's the latest crisis
1152
00:25:36,368 --> 00:25:39,246
to rock the financial markets.
1153
00:25:39,329 --> 00:25:41,873
Insurance giant AIG teetering
1154
00:25:41,957 --> 00:25:43,458
on the brink of bankruptcy.
1155
00:25:43,541 --> 00:25:45,460
This is a colossal firm.
1156
00:25:45,543 --> 00:25:47,712
If it fails,
1157
00:25:45,543 --> 00:25:47,712
the ripples would travel
1158
00:25:47,712 --> 00:25:50,548
far and wide
1159
00:25:47,712 --> 00:25:50,548
throughout the global economy.
1160
00:25:50,548 --> 00:25:52,467
- All of a sudden,
1161
00:25:50,548 --> 00:25:52,467
who would have dreamt
1162
00:25:52,550 --> 00:25:56,096
this other bombshell goes off,
1163
00:25:52,550 --> 00:25:56,096
which is AIG.
1164
00:25:56,179 --> 00:25:58,390
And if you think
1165
00:25:56,179 --> 00:25:58,390
Lehman Brothers
1166
00:25:58,390 --> 00:26:00,600
was complicated to figure out,
1167
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,103
AIG was monumentally bigger.
1168
00:26:03,103 --> 00:26:05,438
- AIG is this massive
1169
00:26:03,103 --> 00:26:05,438
insurance company,
1170
00:26:05,522 --> 00:26:09,651
but they also had a division
1171
00:26:05,522 --> 00:26:09,651
called AIG Financial Products.
1172
00:26:09,734 --> 00:26:13,488
Which would offer something
1173
00:26:09,734 --> 00:26:13,488
called a credit default swap.
1174
00:26:13,571 --> 00:26:15,156
- A credit default swap
1175
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,784
is a contract
1176
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,784
between two people,
1177
00:26:17,867 --> 00:26:21,121
one of whom is
1178
00:26:17,867 --> 00:26:21,121
giving insurance to the other
1179
00:26:21,121 --> 00:26:24,624
that he will be paid
1180
00:26:21,121 --> 00:26:24,624
in the event
1181
00:26:24,708 --> 00:26:26,668
that a financial institution
1182
00:26:26,668 --> 00:26:28,670
or a financial instrument
1183
00:26:26,668 --> 00:26:28,670
fails.
1184
00:26:28,753 --> 00:26:31,006
- So it is
1185
00:26:28,753 --> 00:26:31,006
an insurance contract?
1186
00:26:31,006 --> 00:26:34,009
- It is an insurance contract
1187
00:26:31,006 --> 00:26:34,009
but they've been very careful
1188
00:26:34,092 --> 00:26:36,386
not to call it that.
1189
00:26:36,469 --> 00:26:39,681
Because if it were insurance
1190
00:26:36,469 --> 00:26:39,681
it would be regulated.
1191
00:26:39,681 --> 00:26:43,143
- AIG essentially facilitated
1192
00:26:39,681 --> 00:26:43,143
the creation
1193
00:26:43,226 --> 00:26:45,186
of a lot of these
1194
00:26:43,226 --> 00:26:45,186
mortgage securities
1195
00:26:45,270 --> 00:26:48,398
by essentially providing
1196
00:26:45,270 --> 00:26:48,398
an insurance policy
1197
00:26:48,481 --> 00:26:50,400
should they go bad.
1198
00:26:50,483 --> 00:26:53,737
But because the derivatives
1199
00:26:50,483 --> 00:26:53,737
market had been deregulated
1200
00:26:53,820 --> 00:26:56,072
AIG could do this
1201
00:26:53,820 --> 00:26:56,072
without any requirement
1202
00:26:56,156 --> 00:26:57,532
to put up any reserves.
1203
00:26:57,615 --> 00:26:59,409
It's like an insurance
1204
00:26:57,615 --> 00:26:59,409
company selling you
1205
00:26:59,409 --> 00:27:02,370
a life insurance policy
1206
00:26:59,409 --> 00:27:02,370
and not having any money
1207
00:27:02,454 --> 00:27:04,622
when the time came to pay off.
1208
00:27:04,706 --> 00:27:06,708
And the time came to pay off.
1209
00:27:06,708 --> 00:27:09,544
- After its credit rating
1210
00:27:06,708 --> 00:27:09,544
was downgraded over night
1211
00:27:09,627 --> 00:27:13,882
AIG must raise at least
1212
00:27:09,627 --> 00:27:13,882
$40 billion and fast.
1213
00:27:13,965 --> 00:27:17,927
- You had a full-scale run
1214
00:27:13,965 --> 00:27:17,927
on AIG.
1215
00:27:17,927 --> 00:27:20,096
And there was a real view,
1216
00:27:17,927 --> 00:27:20,096
by the way,
1217
00:27:20,180 --> 00:27:23,767
that if AIG went under
1218
00:27:20,180 --> 00:27:23,767
the game was over.
1219
00:27:23,850 --> 00:27:27,562
- AIG does business with every
1220
00:27:23,850 --> 00:27:27,562
major financial institution
1221
00:27:27,562 --> 00:27:29,939
and in 130 countries.
1222
00:27:29,939 --> 00:27:31,608
- AIG will destroy much
1223
00:27:31,608 --> 00:27:35,653
of the capital
1224
00:27:31,608 --> 00:27:35,653
formation process
1225
00:27:35,653 --> 00:27:36,946
in the Western world.
1226
00:27:36,946 --> 00:27:39,282
- Paulson, Bernanke,
1227
00:27:36,946 --> 00:27:39,282
Tim Geithner,
1228
00:27:39,282 --> 00:27:42,285
they saw the risk
1229
00:27:39,282 --> 00:27:42,285
that this could be
1230
00:27:42,285 --> 00:27:45,497
not just a fire that would
1231
00:27:42,285 --> 00:27:45,497
burn Wall Street down,
1232
00:27:45,497 --> 00:27:47,874
but that could burn down
1233
00:27:45,497 --> 00:27:47,874
our economy
1234
00:27:47,957 --> 00:27:50,335
and burn down
1235
00:27:47,957 --> 00:27:50,335
the world economy.
1236
00:27:50,335 --> 00:27:53,129
- It is Uncle Sam
1237
00:27:50,335 --> 00:27:53,129
to the rescue,
1238
00:27:53,129 --> 00:27:55,048
but, oh, what a price tag.
1239
00:27:55,131 --> 00:27:58,343
- The federal government
1240
00:27:55,131 --> 00:27:58,343
is saving insurance giant AIG
1241
00:27:58,343 --> 00:28:02,347
from possible collapse
1242
00:27:58,343 --> 00:28:02,347
with an $85 billion loan.
1243
00:28:02,430 --> 00:28:04,849
All of it your money.
1244
00:28:04,849 --> 00:28:07,477
- The move was designed
1245
00:28:04,849 --> 00:28:07,477
to calm and bring stability
1246
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,021
to the financial markets.
1247
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,021
Did it work?
1248
00:28:10,105 --> 00:28:12,857
Maybe down the road,
1249
00:28:10,105 --> 00:28:12,857
but not today.
1250
00:28:12,941 --> 00:28:15,527
- Another anxiety attack
1251
00:28:12,941 --> 00:28:15,527
on Wall Street
1252
00:28:15,610 --> 00:28:17,737
even after the AIG bailout.
1253
00:28:17,821 --> 00:28:21,199
The DOW tumbled
1254
00:28:17,821 --> 00:28:21,199
another 450 points.
1255
00:28:21,282 --> 00:28:23,118
- In your 30 years of
1256
00:28:21,282 --> 00:28:23,118
being down here have you ever
1257
00:28:23,201 --> 00:28:26,371
seen the market like this?
1258
00:28:23,201 --> 00:28:26,371
- No. Never.
1259
00:28:26,371 --> 00:28:27,580
- Hank Paulson
1260
00:28:26,371 --> 00:28:27,580
and Ben Bernanke
1261
00:28:27,580 --> 00:28:28,706
are working very hard,
1262
00:28:28,790 --> 00:28:30,750
but it doesn't feel like
1263
00:28:28,790 --> 00:28:30,750
they're in control.
1264
00:28:30,834 --> 00:28:32,627
And that is very,
1265
00:28:30,834 --> 00:28:32,627
very unsettling.
1266
00:28:33,378 --> 00:28:36,965
- The $85 billion
1267
00:28:33,378 --> 00:28:36,965
the Federal Reserve put up
1268
00:28:37,048 --> 00:28:40,218
to save AIG
1269
00:28:37,048 --> 00:28:40,218
from near certain bankruptcy
1270
00:28:40,301 --> 00:28:43,179
was not enough
1271
00:28:40,301 --> 00:28:43,179
to calm terrified investors
1272
00:28:43,179 --> 00:28:45,974
that the next disaster
1273
00:28:43,179 --> 00:28:45,974
is not around the corner.
1274
00:28:46,057 --> 00:28:48,017
- Banks, meanwhile,
1275
00:28:46,057 --> 00:28:48,017
are hoarding cash
1276
00:28:48,017 --> 00:28:50,353
reluctant even
1277
00:28:48,017 --> 00:28:50,353
to lend to each other.
1278
00:28:50,353 --> 00:28:52,188
- Banks are nervous
1279
00:28:50,353 --> 00:28:52,188
about giving loans
1280
00:28:52,188 --> 00:28:54,733
for appliances, cars, homes,
1281
00:28:54,733 --> 00:28:57,569
making Wall Street's troubles
1282
00:28:54,733 --> 00:28:57,569
a Main Street issue,
1283
00:28:57,652 --> 00:29:00,196
and potentially putting
1284
00:28:57,652 --> 00:29:00,196
economic recovery
1285
00:29:00,196 --> 00:29:01,906
even farther out of reach.
1286
00:29:01,990 --> 00:29:03,408
- The markets are freezing.
1287
00:29:03,491 --> 00:29:06,745
The whole American economy
1288
00:29:03,491 --> 00:29:06,745
is built on the ability
1289
00:29:06,745 --> 00:29:08,788
to lend and borrow
1290
00:29:06,745 --> 00:29:08,788
and to invest.
1291
00:29:08,872 --> 00:29:11,040
And all of a sudden companies
1292
00:29:08,872 --> 00:29:11,040
throughout the country
1293
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,626
who borrow because
1294
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,626
they're buying equipment,
1295
00:29:13,710 --> 00:29:16,087
they need to make payroll,
1296
00:29:13,710 --> 00:29:16,087
they can't borrow.
1297
00:29:16,087 --> 00:29:18,423
Millions of people
1298
00:29:16,087 --> 00:29:18,423
started losing their jobs.
1299
00:29:18,423 --> 00:29:19,632
- The economy is shaken
1300
00:29:19,716 --> 00:29:21,092
and we're close
1301
00:29:19,716 --> 00:29:21,092
to a depression.
1302
00:29:21,176 --> 00:29:22,594
Forget the recession.
1303
00:29:22,594 --> 00:29:24,220
- It wasn't just a lost job.
1304
00:29:24,220 --> 00:29:26,222
It was a lost job
1305
00:29:24,220 --> 00:29:26,222
and am I going to have
1306
00:29:26,306 --> 00:29:29,225
a bank to go to
1307
00:29:26,306 --> 00:29:29,225
to get my retirement from?
1308
00:29:29,309 --> 00:29:30,769
Where am I gonna deposit
1309
00:29:29,309 --> 00:29:30,769
a check?
1310
00:29:30,769 --> 00:29:33,438
I mean, Ben Bernanke
1311
00:29:30,769 --> 00:29:33,438
and Hank Paulson
1312
00:29:33,521 --> 00:29:35,815
were really concerned
1313
00:29:33,521 --> 00:29:35,815
about whether or not
1314
00:29:35,815 --> 00:29:37,150
people would be able
1315
00:29:35,815 --> 00:29:37,150
to go to an ATM.
1316
00:29:37,233 --> 00:29:39,277
- Treasury Secretary Paulson
1317
00:29:37,233 --> 00:29:39,277
told Congress
1318
00:29:39,277 --> 00:29:41,321
in a sobering meeting
1319
00:29:39,277 --> 00:29:41,321
last night
1320
00:29:41,321 --> 00:29:44,282
that a bailout is the only way
1321
00:29:41,321 --> 00:29:44,282
to prevent a collapse.
1322
00:29:44,282 --> 00:29:48,620
- America's economy is facing
1323
00:29:44,282 --> 00:29:48,620
unprecedented challenges,
1324
00:29:48,620 --> 00:29:52,373
and we're responding
1325
00:29:48,620 --> 00:29:52,373
with unprecedented action.
1326
00:29:52,457 --> 00:29:54,959
- It is no stretch
1327
00:29:52,457 --> 00:29:54,959
to say that after this week
1328
00:29:55,043 --> 00:29:57,337
the era of big government
1329
00:29:55,043 --> 00:29:57,337
is back.
1330
00:29:57,420 --> 00:30:00,173
- It is an urgent request
1331
00:29:57,420 --> 00:30:00,173
from the Bush Administration
1332
00:30:00,173 --> 00:30:03,301
to Congress for $700 billion
1333
00:30:03,384 --> 00:30:06,679
to quickly stabilize
1334
00:30:03,384 --> 00:30:06,679
the financial system.
1335
00:30:06,679 --> 00:30:08,515
- Thursday afternoon
1336
00:30:06,679 --> 00:30:08,515
we start to hear
1337
00:30:08,515 --> 00:30:10,475
about this thing called TARP.
1338
00:30:10,475 --> 00:30:12,644
And TARP had many
1339
00:30:10,475 --> 00:30:12,644
different variations,
1340
00:30:12,727 --> 00:30:14,187
what it was gonna be,
1341
00:30:14,270 --> 00:30:17,065
but basically they were
1342
00:30:14,270 --> 00:30:17,065
gonna infuse capital
1343
00:30:17,065 --> 00:30:18,858
directly into some
1344
00:30:17,065 --> 00:30:18,858
of these companies.
1345
00:30:18,858 --> 00:30:20,693
- This troubled asset
1346
00:30:18,858 --> 00:30:20,693
relief program
1347
00:30:20,777 --> 00:30:24,405
must be properly designed
1348
00:30:20,777 --> 00:30:24,405
and sufficiently large
1349
00:30:24,405 --> 00:30:28,034
to have maximum impact
1350
00:30:24,405 --> 00:30:28,034
while including features
1351
00:30:28,117 --> 00:30:31,871
to protect the taxpayer
1352
00:30:28,117 --> 00:30:31,871
to the maximum extent possible.
1353
00:30:31,871 --> 00:30:36,042
- That $700 billion projected
1354
00:30:31,871 --> 00:30:36,042
price tag isn't pretty,
1355
00:30:36,125 --> 00:30:38,586
but the president says
1356
00:30:36,125 --> 00:30:38,586
it's a big package
1357
00:30:38,670 --> 00:30:40,588
because it is a big problem.
1358
00:30:40,588 --> 00:30:42,924
- My first instinct
1359
00:30:40,588 --> 00:30:42,924
was to let the market work
1360
00:30:43,007 --> 00:30:44,551
until I realized that--
1361
00:30:44,634 --> 00:30:48,888
from being briefed
1362
00:30:44,634 --> 00:30:48,888
by the experts
1363
00:30:48,888 --> 00:30:51,432
of how significant
1364
00:30:48,888 --> 00:30:51,432
this problem became.
1365
00:30:51,432 --> 00:30:54,143
And so I decided to act
1366
00:30:54,227 --> 00:30:56,104
and act boldly.
1367
00:30:56,104 --> 00:30:57,897
- George W. Bush understands
1368
00:30:57,897 --> 00:31:00,775
that he has
1369
00:30:57,897 --> 00:31:00,775
to put his ideology aside.
1370
00:31:00,775 --> 00:31:04,153
Put 30 years
1371
00:31:00,775 --> 00:31:04,153
of small government,
1372
00:31:04,237 --> 00:31:07,198
no taxes, small budget, aside
1373
00:31:07,282 --> 00:31:10,326
because the country needs it
1374
00:31:07,282 --> 00:31:10,326
and the economy needs it.
1375
00:31:10,326 --> 00:31:12,662
- Opposition seems to be
1376
00:31:10,326 --> 00:31:12,662
growing here in Congress
1377
00:31:12,745 --> 00:31:14,664
for the legislation
1378
00:31:12,745 --> 00:31:14,664
that could be
1379
00:31:14,747 --> 00:31:17,333
the most important
1380
00:31:14,747 --> 00:31:17,333
of Mr. Bush's presidency.
1381
00:31:17,417 --> 00:31:20,169
- This isn't legislation.
1382
00:31:17,417 --> 00:31:20,169
This is extortion.
1383
00:31:20,253 --> 00:31:22,505
- This is a huge cow patty
1384
00:31:22,589 --> 00:31:25,800
with a piece of marshmallow
1385
00:31:22,589 --> 00:31:25,800
stuck in the middle of it.
1386
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:30,346
- Please. Please don't betray
1387
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:30,346
this nation's great history.
1388
00:31:30,346 --> 00:31:32,807
- We are the working majority!
1389
00:31:32,891 --> 00:31:35,894
- We will not be ruled
1390
00:31:32,891 --> 00:31:35,894
by the rich minority.
1391
00:31:35,977 --> 00:31:38,187
- Main Street went
1392
00:31:35,977 --> 00:31:38,187
to Wall Street today
1393
00:31:38,271 --> 00:31:40,732
to protest the bailout plan.
1394
00:31:40,732 --> 00:31:43,192
- People said, "Well,
1395
00:31:40,732 --> 00:31:43,192
why give the banks money?
1396
00:31:43,192 --> 00:31:44,402
"We could give money
1397
00:31:43,192 --> 00:31:44,402
to homeowners
1398
00:31:44,485 --> 00:31:46,029
to pay off their mortgage.
1399
00:31:46,112 --> 00:31:49,365
Is it fair that a company
1400
00:31:46,112 --> 00:31:49,365
that should be going bankrupt
1401
00:31:49,449 --> 00:31:50,909
is getting a handout?
1402
00:31:50,992 --> 00:31:53,202
- If this package goes
1403
00:31:50,992 --> 00:31:53,202
through, the way I look at it,
1404
00:31:53,202 --> 00:31:55,204
they've just mortgaged
1405
00:31:53,202 --> 00:31:55,204
our future.
1406
00:31:55,288 --> 00:31:57,040
- They live by
1407
00:31:55,288 --> 00:31:57,040
the free market.
1408
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,042
Let them die by
1409
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,042
the free market.
1410
00:31:59,125 --> 00:32:01,294
- There were a lot of people
1411
00:31:59,125 --> 00:32:01,294
shouting, "Let them fail."
1412
00:32:01,377 --> 00:32:03,087
They got themselves
1413
00:32:01,377 --> 00:32:03,087
into this position
1414
00:32:03,171 --> 00:32:04,881
and it's survival
1415
00:32:03,171 --> 00:32:04,881
of the fittest.
1416
00:32:04,881 --> 00:32:07,133
And this is what capitalism
1417
00:32:04,881 --> 00:32:07,133
looks like.
1418
00:32:07,216 --> 00:32:09,218
- The last thing in the world
1419
00:32:07,216 --> 00:32:09,218
I wanted to do
1420
00:32:09,302 --> 00:32:12,055
was be going up
1421
00:32:09,302 --> 00:32:12,055
to Congress asking
1422
00:32:12,138 --> 00:32:13,306
for these kinds of things.
1423
00:32:13,389 --> 00:32:15,642
It is a terrible position
1424
00:32:13,389 --> 00:32:15,642
to be in.
1425
00:32:15,725 --> 00:32:18,561
The only thing worse
1426
00:32:15,725 --> 00:32:18,561
is the alternative.
1427
00:32:18,645 --> 00:32:20,438
- If the credit markets
1428
00:32:18,645 --> 00:32:20,438
are not functioning
1429
00:32:20,438 --> 00:32:23,441
jobs will be lost, more houses
1430
00:32:20,438 --> 00:32:23,441
will be foreclosed upon,
1431
00:32:23,524 --> 00:32:25,652
the economy will just
1432
00:32:23,524 --> 00:32:25,652
not be able to recover
1433
00:32:25,652 --> 00:32:27,445
no matter
1434
00:32:25,652 --> 00:32:27,445
what other policies are taken.
1435
00:32:27,445 --> 00:32:29,614
- I know that we will be
1436
00:32:27,445 --> 00:32:29,614
able to live up
1437
00:32:29,697 --> 00:32:31,991
to our side of the bargain.
1438
00:32:31,991 --> 00:32:33,952
I hope the Republicans
1439
00:32:31,991 --> 00:32:33,952
will too.
1440
00:32:33,952 --> 00:32:37,163
- We gotta vote.
1441
00:32:33,952 --> 00:32:37,163
Thank you very much.
1442
00:32:37,163 --> 00:32:39,624
- Good day, and
1443
00:32:37,163 --> 00:32:39,624
what a day it's been so far.
1444
00:32:39,624 --> 00:32:41,376
The president's financial
1445
00:32:39,624 --> 00:32:41,376
bailout plan
1446
00:32:41,459 --> 00:32:43,503
has suffered a major defeat.
1447
00:32:43,586 --> 00:32:46,005
- They go up to Capitol Hill
1448
00:32:43,586 --> 00:32:46,005
and the bill fails.
1449
00:32:46,005 --> 00:32:48,216
And the results are dramatic.
1450
00:32:48,299 --> 00:32:49,634
- We gotta go!
1451
00:32:48,299 --> 00:32:49,634
- What is it?
1452
00:32:49,717 --> 00:32:50,843
What's wrong?
1453
00:32:50,927 --> 00:32:52,512
- Wall Street watched
1454
00:32:50,927 --> 00:32:52,512
Washington
1455
00:32:52,595 --> 00:32:54,055
with shock and fear.
1456
00:32:54,138 --> 00:32:57,016
As the bailout package
1457
00:32:54,138 --> 00:32:57,016
went down on Capitol Hill
1458
00:32:57,100 --> 00:32:59,185
the DOW went down like a sub.
1459
00:32:59,268 --> 00:33:03,064
- This is the biggest point
1460
00:32:59,268 --> 00:33:03,064
drop that has ever been seen.
1461
00:33:03,106 --> 00:33:04,357
There's virtually no American
1462
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,109
who is not feeling this
1463
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,109
one way or another.
1464
00:33:06,192 --> 00:33:09,237
- They just wiped out
1465
00:33:06,192 --> 00:33:09,237
everybody's 401k.
1466
00:33:09,237 --> 00:33:11,239
- There's just pure disgust
1467
00:33:09,237 --> 00:33:11,239
with the politicians.
1468
00:33:11,239 --> 00:33:12,865
There's absolutely
1469
00:33:11,239 --> 00:33:12,865
zero confidence
1470
00:33:12,865 --> 00:33:14,575
with what's going on here.
1471
00:33:12,865 --> 00:33:14,575
None.
1472
00:33:14,575 --> 00:33:18,079
- Paulson called me that night
1473
00:33:14,575 --> 00:33:18,079
stunned and scared.
1474
00:33:18,162 --> 00:33:19,372
People were days away
1475
00:33:18,162 --> 00:33:19,372
from not being able
1476
00:33:19,372 --> 00:33:20,748
to take money
1477
00:33:19,372 --> 00:33:20,748
out of their ATMs.
1478
00:33:20,748 --> 00:33:22,083
And it was happening
1479
00:33:20,748 --> 00:33:22,083
around the world,
1480
00:33:22,083 --> 00:33:23,418
not just in the United States.
1481
00:33:23,418 --> 00:33:27,088
It was a more dangerous
1482
00:33:23,418 --> 00:33:27,088
global crisis and scope
1483
00:33:27,171 --> 00:33:29,090
than anything we'd seen
1484
00:33:27,171 --> 00:33:29,090
since the Great Depression.
1485
00:33:29,090 --> 00:33:31,426
And we were effectively
1486
00:33:29,090 --> 00:33:31,426
out of ammunition.
1487
00:33:31,426 --> 00:33:33,386
- Two days after
1488
00:33:31,426 --> 00:33:33,386
the House killed
1489
00:33:33,469 --> 00:33:35,221
the financial rescue package
1490
00:33:35,221 --> 00:33:38,224
the Senate leadership is
1491
00:33:35,221 --> 00:33:38,224
determined to pass it tonight
1492
00:33:38,224 --> 00:33:41,060
and pressure the House
1493
00:33:38,224 --> 00:33:41,060
into taking action.
1494
00:33:41,060 --> 00:33:44,647
- To Democrats and Republicans
1495
00:33:41,060 --> 00:33:44,647
who've opposed this plan
1496
00:33:44,731 --> 00:33:47,358
I say step up to the plate.
1497
00:33:47,442 --> 00:33:50,028
Let's do what's right
1498
00:33:47,442 --> 00:33:50,028
for the country at this time.
1499
00:33:50,111 --> 00:33:53,114
Because the time to act is now.
1500
00:33:53,114 --> 00:33:55,158
- If we fail to act.
1501
00:33:55,158 --> 00:33:58,828
The gears of our economy
1502
00:33:55,158 --> 00:33:58,828
will grind to a halt.
1503
00:33:58,911 --> 00:34:01,956
- This is the greatest
1504
00:33:58,911 --> 00:34:01,956
market disruption
1505
00:34:01,956 --> 00:34:04,792
that's happened since
1506
00:34:01,956 --> 00:34:04,792
the crash of 1929.
1507
00:34:04,792 --> 00:34:08,796
Reality finally imposes itself
1508
00:34:04,792 --> 00:34:08,796
on Capitol Hill.
1509
00:34:09,797 --> 00:34:11,299
- The motion is adopted.
1510
00:34:11,299 --> 00:34:14,302
- Given a second chance,
1511
00:34:11,299 --> 00:34:14,302
the House did an about-face.
1512
00:34:14,385 --> 00:34:17,472
Easily passing
1513
00:34:14,385 --> 00:34:17,472
the $700 billion bailout
1514
00:34:17,555 --> 00:34:19,640
of the financial industry.
1515
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,350
There were moments this week
1516
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,350
when some thought
1517
00:34:21,434 --> 00:34:22,685
that the federal government
1518
00:34:22,685 --> 00:34:24,228
could not rise
1519
00:34:22,685 --> 00:34:24,228
to the challenge,
1520
00:34:24,312 --> 00:34:25,980
but thanks to the hard work
1521
00:34:24,312 --> 00:34:25,980
of members
1522
00:34:25,980 --> 00:34:28,691
of both parties
1523
00:34:25,980 --> 00:34:28,691
in both houses
1524
00:34:28,775 --> 00:34:31,402
in the spirit of cooperation
1525
00:34:28,775 --> 00:34:31,402
between Capitol Hill
1526
00:34:31,486 --> 00:34:33,196
and my administration,
1527
00:34:33,196 --> 00:34:36,699
we completed this bill
1528
00:34:33,196 --> 00:34:36,699
in a timely manner.
1529
00:34:36,783 --> 00:34:39,869
- In the aftermath,
1530
00:34:36,783 --> 00:34:39,869
people criticized Paulson
1531
00:34:39,869 --> 00:34:41,913
for this and the other,
1532
00:34:39,869 --> 00:34:41,913
and that's fine.
1533
00:34:41,913 --> 00:34:44,040
But the truth is
1534
00:34:41,913 --> 00:34:44,040
if he hadn't been there
1535
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,625
and they hadn't intervened
1536
00:34:45,708 --> 00:34:48,294
we never would have
1537
00:34:45,708 --> 00:34:48,294
crawled out of that hole.
1538
00:34:48,377 --> 00:34:50,213
- They rescued
1539
00:34:48,377 --> 00:34:50,213
the financial system.
1540
00:34:50,213 --> 00:34:51,756
Like it or not.
1541
00:34:51,756 --> 00:34:54,092
I mean,
1542
00:34:51,756 --> 00:34:54,092
you can wish all day long
1543
00:34:54,175 --> 00:34:56,052
that they'd all gone down
1544
00:34:54,175 --> 00:34:56,052
the tubes,
1545
00:34:56,052 --> 00:34:58,137
but I really don't think
1546
00:34:58,221 --> 00:34:59,931
we would have enjoyed that
1547
00:34:58,221 --> 00:34:59,931
one bit.
1548
00:35:00,014 --> 00:35:01,891
- Our so-called ownership
1549
00:35:00,014 --> 00:35:01,891
society
1550
00:35:01,891 --> 00:35:03,893
just didn't make the break,
1551
00:35:03,976 --> 00:35:06,646
but at least we saved those
1552
00:35:03,976 --> 00:35:06,646
Wall Street banks.
1553
00:35:08,606 --> 00:35:11,150
[indistinct chatter]
1554
00:35:11,150 --> 00:35:14,153
- Get 'em boys!
1555
00:35:11,150 --> 00:35:14,153
Get' em.
1556
00:35:14,153 --> 00:35:15,321
- Bernie, give me one minute.
1557
00:35:15,404 --> 00:35:16,656
- What do you have to say
1558
00:35:15,404 --> 00:35:16,656
to the public?
1559
00:35:16,656 --> 00:35:17,949
To your investors?
1560
00:35:18,032 --> 00:35:19,325
- There are
1561
00:35:18,032 --> 00:35:19,325
new details tonight
1562
00:35:19,325 --> 00:35:20,827
about what may be
1563
00:35:19,325 --> 00:35:20,827
the largest swindle
1564
00:35:20,910 --> 00:35:23,621
in Wall Street history.
1565
00:35:20,910 --> 00:35:23,621
An alleged $50 billion
1566
00:35:23,704 --> 00:35:26,874
Ponzi scheme by former Nasdaq
1567
00:35:23,704 --> 00:35:26,874
chairman, Bernard Madoff.
1568
00:35:26,958 --> 00:35:29,127
- What would you say to all
1569
00:35:26,958 --> 00:35:29,127
those people that lost money?
1570
00:35:29,127 --> 00:35:31,796
What would you say to them?
1571
00:35:31,879 --> 00:35:34,298
- When you have a collapse
1572
00:35:31,879 --> 00:35:34,298
on Wall Street
1573
00:35:34,382 --> 00:35:36,467
I always think of it
1574
00:35:34,382 --> 00:35:36,467
as the water
1575
00:35:36,551 --> 00:35:38,302
going out of a lake
1576
00:35:36,551 --> 00:35:38,302
or something.
1577
00:35:38,386 --> 00:35:40,888
And suddenly you can see
1578
00:35:38,386 --> 00:35:40,888
the roots of those trees.
1579
00:35:40,972 --> 00:35:43,141
You can see all the ugly stuff
1580
00:35:40,972 --> 00:35:43,141
that gets caught in them.
1581
00:35:43,141 --> 00:35:44,642
Including, like, dead bodies.
1582
00:35:44,725 --> 00:35:46,144
And that's how I feel, like,
1583
00:35:46,144 --> 00:35:48,229
that the water went down
1584
00:35:46,144 --> 00:35:48,229
so much
1585
00:35:48,229 --> 00:35:50,314
and everybody was like,
1586
00:35:50,314 --> 00:35:51,899
"That's Bernie Madoff
1587
00:35:50,314 --> 00:35:51,899
down there."
1588
00:35:51,983 --> 00:35:54,694
- A Wall Street whiz
1589
00:35:51,983 --> 00:35:54,694
with a golden reputation,
1590
00:35:54,694 --> 00:35:57,697
Bernie Madoff earned trust
1591
00:35:54,694 --> 00:35:57,697
from many of his clients
1592
00:35:57,697 --> 00:36:00,241
because he made them money,
1593
00:35:57,697 --> 00:36:00,241
lots of it.
1594
00:36:00,324 --> 00:36:01,909
Or so they thought.
1595
00:36:01,993 --> 00:36:03,369
- Bernie Madoff
1596
00:36:01,993 --> 00:36:03,369
was a modern day
1597
00:36:03,452 --> 00:36:04,912
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.
1598
00:36:04,996 --> 00:36:08,249
He had a legitimate life
1599
00:36:04,996 --> 00:36:08,249
that was highly successful,
1600
00:36:08,332 --> 00:36:10,626
and he had this darker secret
1601
00:36:10,710 --> 00:36:14,046
that fed his need for success.
1602
00:36:14,046 --> 00:36:15,464
- Madoff allegedly had been
1603
00:36:15,548 --> 00:36:17,758
using new investment money
1604
00:36:15,548 --> 00:36:17,758
from clients
1605
00:36:17,758 --> 00:36:20,928
to pay supposed profits
1606
00:36:17,758 --> 00:36:20,928
out to other investors.
1607
00:36:20,928 --> 00:36:22,972
Under the weight
1608
00:36:20,928 --> 00:36:22,972
of a tumbling stock market
1609
00:36:23,055 --> 00:36:24,974
the scheme had collapsed.
1610
00:36:25,057 --> 00:36:26,809
Desperate investors
1611
00:36:25,057 --> 00:36:26,809
and their lawyers
1612
00:36:26,893 --> 00:36:29,812
scrambled to Madoff's
1613
00:36:26,893 --> 00:36:29,812
East Side offices Friday
1614
00:36:29,896 --> 00:36:31,230
looking for their money.
1615
00:36:31,314 --> 00:36:33,274
They were turned away
1616
00:36:31,314 --> 00:36:33,274
in the lobby.
1617
00:36:33,274 --> 00:36:35,943
- There has never been
1618
00:36:33,274 --> 00:36:35,943
a Ponzi scheme
1619
00:36:35,943 --> 00:36:37,862
on the scale of Madoff ever.
1620
00:36:37,945 --> 00:36:39,989
We're talking
1621
00:36:37,945 --> 00:36:39,989
thousands of people
1622
00:36:39,989 --> 00:36:42,617
who thought that
1623
00:36:39,989 --> 00:36:42,617
they had millions of dollars
1624
00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:44,202
socked away for retirement
1625
00:36:44,285 --> 00:36:45,995
suddenly found out it was gone.
1626
00:36:46,078 --> 00:36:48,456
- Rose and Jack Lass
1627
00:36:46,078 --> 00:36:48,456
say they invested
1628
00:36:48,539 --> 00:36:51,000
every penny of their savings
1629
00:36:48,539 --> 00:36:51,000
with Madoff.
1630
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,502
- We started
1631
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,502
to sell our furniture,
1632
00:36:53,586 --> 00:36:57,298
some of our things
1633
00:36:53,586 --> 00:36:57,298
that we value,
1634
00:36:57,298 --> 00:37:00,384
so that we should have some
1635
00:36:57,298 --> 00:37:00,384
money immediately.
1636
00:37:00,468 --> 00:37:03,012
- Then there's 91-year-old
1637
00:37:00,468 --> 00:37:03,012
Ian Fearman.
1638
00:37:03,095 --> 00:37:05,223
He had to take a job
1639
00:37:03,095 --> 00:37:05,223
at a grocery store
1640
00:37:05,306 --> 00:37:08,476
after losing $700,000
1641
00:37:05,306 --> 00:37:08,476
to Madoff.
1642
00:37:08,476 --> 00:37:12,396
- The human suffering
1643
00:37:08,476 --> 00:37:12,396
that Madoff caused,
1644
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,941
I don't think
1645
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,941
we can ever fully grasp.
1646
00:37:15,024 --> 00:37:18,694
- Homes had to be sold,
1647
00:37:15,024 --> 00:37:18,694
college educations truncated,
1648
00:37:18,778 --> 00:37:20,404
people had to come out
1649
00:37:18,778 --> 00:37:20,404
of retirement,
1650
00:37:20,404 --> 00:37:23,199
go to work at whatever job
1651
00:37:20,404 --> 00:37:23,199
they could get.
1652
00:37:23,282 --> 00:37:24,951
And, for those people,
1653
00:37:25,034 --> 00:37:27,912
the Madoff fraud
1654
00:37:25,034 --> 00:37:27,912
is never gonna be over.
1655
00:37:27,912 --> 00:37:31,415
- What may very well be
1656
00:37:27,912 --> 00:37:31,415
the final steps of freedom
1657
00:37:31,415 --> 00:37:34,293
for perhaps the most
1658
00:37:31,415 --> 00:37:34,293
despised man in America.
1659
00:37:34,377 --> 00:37:36,879
Bernie Madoff entered
1660
00:37:34,377 --> 00:37:36,879
a federal court
1661
00:37:36,879 --> 00:37:38,589
in Manhattan today
1662
00:37:36,879 --> 00:37:38,589
and pleaded guilty
1663
00:37:38,589 --> 00:37:42,051
to the greatest investor fraud
1664
00:37:38,589 --> 00:37:42,051
in U.S. history.
1665
00:37:42,134 --> 00:37:44,804
- I think the connection
1666
00:37:42,134 --> 00:37:44,804
between Bernie Madoff and
1667
00:37:44,887 --> 00:37:48,224
the financial crisis
1668
00:37:44,887 --> 00:37:48,224
was one fundamentally about
1669
00:37:44,887 --> 00:37:48,224
trust.
1670
00:37:48,224 --> 00:37:51,644
It was about a loss of trust
1671
00:37:48,224 --> 00:37:51,644
in the system.
1672
00:37:51,727 --> 00:37:53,437
About a loss of trust
1673
00:37:53,437 --> 00:37:56,315
in people that
1674
00:37:53,437 --> 00:37:56,315
you thought were worthy.
1675
00:37:56,315 --> 00:37:59,777
- We all trusted
1676
00:37:56,315 --> 00:37:59,777
the free enterprise system.
1677
00:37:59,860 --> 00:38:02,947
We trusted these
1678
00:37:59,860 --> 00:38:02,947
deregulated markets
1679
00:38:03,030 --> 00:38:05,950
to foster our prosperity.
1680
00:38:06,033 --> 00:38:09,328
All of America felt
1681
00:38:06,033 --> 00:38:09,328
that they had been betrayed
1682
00:38:09,412 --> 00:38:11,289
by Wall Street.
1683
00:38:11,372 --> 00:38:14,166
- The stock market just
1684
00:38:11,372 --> 00:38:14,166
can't seem to find a bottom.
1685
00:38:14,166 --> 00:38:16,127
- It's day after day,
1686
00:38:14,166 --> 00:38:16,127
week after week,
1687
00:38:16,210 --> 00:38:18,170
and it's hurting
1688
00:38:16,210 --> 00:38:18,170
the public morale.
1689
00:38:18,170 --> 00:38:19,964
- There is a deep sense
1690
00:38:18,170 --> 00:38:19,964
across the country
1691
00:38:20,047 --> 00:38:22,466
that those who were not
1692
00:38:20,047 --> 00:38:22,466
responsible for this crisis
1693
00:38:22,466 --> 00:38:25,469
are bearing a greater burden
1694
00:38:22,466 --> 00:38:25,469
than those who were.
1695
00:38:25,553 --> 00:38:27,013
The scariest thing
1696
00:38:25,553 --> 00:38:27,013
about that time
1697
00:38:27,013 --> 00:38:30,016
was that the United Sates
1698
00:38:27,013 --> 00:38:30,016
had already thrown
1699
00:38:30,016 --> 00:38:31,976
a lot at this problem,
1700
00:38:31,976 --> 00:38:33,644
and the recession
1701
00:38:31,976 --> 00:38:33,644
was getting much worse.
1702
00:38:33,644 --> 00:38:36,689
We were losing 750,000 jobs
1703
00:38:33,644 --> 00:38:36,689
a month.
1704
00:38:36,772 --> 00:38:39,358
- Just this weekend there was
1705
00:38:36,772 --> 00:38:39,358
a job fair at Dodger Stadium.
1706
00:38:39,442 --> 00:38:42,611
500 jobs available for ushers,
1707
00:38:39,442 --> 00:38:42,611
food workers,
1708
00:38:42,695 --> 00:38:45,031
security, 9 to $18 an hour.
1709
00:38:45,031 --> 00:38:47,283
Part-time, 500 jobs.
1710
00:38:47,366 --> 00:38:49,869
4,500 showed up.
1711
00:38:49,952 --> 00:38:52,872
- [crying]
1712
00:38:49,952 --> 00:38:52,872
It's a lot of competition.
1713
00:38:52,872 --> 00:38:56,876
I'm 55 years old
1714
00:38:52,872 --> 00:38:56,876
trying to get a job.
1715
00:38:56,876 --> 00:38:59,086
It's heart-breaking.
1716
00:38:59,086 --> 00:39:01,088
- Millions of people
1717
00:38:59,086 --> 00:39:01,088
lost their jobs.
1718
00:39:01,172 --> 00:39:02,882
Millions lost their homes.
1719
00:39:02,882 --> 00:39:05,926
Cities and towns
1720
00:39:02,882 --> 00:39:05,926
were devastated.
1721
00:39:05,926 --> 00:39:09,263
And on the other hand
1722
00:39:05,926 --> 00:39:09,263
Wall Street survived.
1723
00:39:09,347 --> 00:39:10,890
Quite nicely, I might add.
1724
00:39:10,973 --> 00:39:13,392
- After they got
1725
00:39:10,973 --> 00:39:13,392
their $84 million bailout,
1726
00:39:13,476 --> 00:39:16,479
AIG executives spent hundreds
1727
00:39:13,476 --> 00:39:16,479
of thousands of dollars
1728
00:39:16,562 --> 00:39:19,023
on fancy hotels
1729
00:39:16,562 --> 00:39:19,023
and spa treatments.
1730
00:39:19,023 --> 00:39:21,192
- They were getting
1731
00:39:19,023 --> 00:39:21,192
their manicures
1732
00:39:21,275 --> 00:39:23,486
their facials,
1733
00:39:21,275 --> 00:39:23,486
their pedicures,
1734
00:39:23,569 --> 00:39:25,946
and their massages
1735
00:39:25,946 --> 00:39:29,325
while American people
1736
00:39:25,946 --> 00:39:29,325
were footing the bill.
1737
00:39:29,408 --> 00:39:31,118
- Your company's now bankrupt,
1738
00:39:31,202 --> 00:39:33,537
our economy is
1739
00:39:31,202 --> 00:39:33,537
in a state of crisis,
1740
00:39:33,621 --> 00:39:36,791
but you get to keep
1741
00:39:33,621 --> 00:39:36,791
$480 million.
1742
00:39:36,874 --> 00:39:39,126
- It's been a continuing
1743
00:39:36,874 --> 00:39:39,126
source of frustration
1744
00:39:39,126 --> 00:39:42,797
that essentially no one
1745
00:39:39,126 --> 00:39:42,797
at the big banks
1746
00:39:42,797 --> 00:39:46,050
was ever prosecuted
1747
00:39:42,797 --> 00:39:46,050
or held accountable for this.
1748
00:39:46,133 --> 00:39:49,512
- I do not think
1749
00:39:46,133 --> 00:39:49,512
that we did anything wrong.
1750
00:39:49,595 --> 00:39:52,473
We did not cause
1751
00:39:49,595 --> 00:39:52,473
the financial crisis.
1752
00:39:52,473 --> 00:39:56,143
- There were a lot of people
1753
00:39:52,473 --> 00:39:56,143
who made a lot of mistakes.
1754
00:39:56,227 --> 00:39:59,355
The question is whether
1755
00:39:56,227 --> 00:39:59,355
they were criminal mistakes.
1756
00:39:59,355 --> 00:40:01,148
It was hard to make the case.
1757
00:40:01,232 --> 00:40:02,566
- You belong in jail!
1758
00:40:02,650 --> 00:40:04,110
- You belong in jail, you...
1759
00:40:02,650 --> 00:40:04,110
both: Criminal!
1760
00:40:04,193 --> 00:40:05,736
- You should go to jail!
1761
00:40:05,736 --> 00:40:08,864
- There's just part of us
1762
00:40:05,736 --> 00:40:08,864
that wants justice.
1763
00:40:08,948 --> 00:40:12,535
And sometimes justice is not
1764
00:40:08,948 --> 00:40:12,535
what you should be asking for.
1765
00:40:12,535 --> 00:40:14,078
You should sometimes
1766
00:40:12,535 --> 00:40:14,078
just realize
1767
00:40:14,161 --> 00:40:16,789
a system's broken
1768
00:40:14,161 --> 00:40:16,789
and needs to be fixed.
1769
00:40:16,872 --> 00:40:20,042
That said,
1770
00:40:16,872 --> 00:40:20,042
Wall Street never changes.
1771
00:40:20,042 --> 00:40:22,211
- There's always gonna be
1772
00:40:20,042 --> 00:40:22,211
people out there
1773
00:40:22,294 --> 00:40:25,047
who are paid
1774
00:40:22,294 --> 00:40:25,047
to try to find the loophole.
1775
00:40:25,131 --> 00:40:26,632
Or if there's a regulation,
1776
00:40:26,715 --> 00:40:28,884
to try to roll back
1777
00:40:26,715 --> 00:40:28,884
the regulation.
1778
00:40:28,968 --> 00:40:30,469
It never ends.
1779
00:40:28,968 --> 00:40:30,469
It never will end.
1780
00:40:30,553 --> 00:40:33,889
[protestors chanting]
1781
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- And that's why Wall Street
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has always been
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a very dangerous place.
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And it remains
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a very dangerous place.
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There's plenty of reasons
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why the same thing
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could happen again
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in the near-term.
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- $10.
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We can boogaloo,
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we can barbecue,
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but you won't get burned
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on Wall Street.
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$10, $10, right here.
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- The results of a new survey
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from "CBS News"
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and "The New York Times"
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revealed the financial hardship
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is taking a psychological toll
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on families,
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but there's
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one silver-lining
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in an otherwise
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heart-breaking report.
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The challenge has
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motivated people
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to learn new skills and
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more than half are confident
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their next job will be
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as good as their last.
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Though the American Dream has
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evaporated for some families,
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at least for now,
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American optimism
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has proved to be
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a renewable resource
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and perhaps
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the most important tool
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on the road to our recovery.
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