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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:28,055 --> 00:01:30,524 * I'm not tryin' to cause a big sensation * 2 00:01:30,591 --> 00:01:32,793 * Talking 'bout my generation * 3 00:01:45,273 --> 00:01:47,975 Whatever happened that day when Keith Moon joined 4 00:01:48,041 --> 00:01:50,644 John, Pete and myself on the stage, 5 00:01:50,711 --> 00:01:52,380 something happened. 6 00:01:52,446 --> 00:01:55,048 There are billions of people on this planet. 7 00:01:55,115 --> 00:01:58,319 What the fuck put four 8 00:01:58,386 --> 00:02:00,388 total individuals together 9 00:02:00,454 --> 00:02:03,257 on the stage in Greenford to make this music? 10 00:02:03,324 --> 00:02:05,025 What the fuck did that? 11 00:02:46,700 --> 00:02:50,771 Towards the end of the war, everything was secret. 12 00:02:50,838 --> 00:02:52,798 You never knew whether you were winning or losing, 13 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,844 and most of the time they were saying you're winning when you felt you were losing. 14 00:03:01,615 --> 00:03:04,051 I was born into that world. 15 00:03:04,117 --> 00:03:08,356 I was born in the hour that Albert Speer was arrested. 16 00:03:08,422 --> 00:03:10,791 He was Hitler's premiere architect. 17 00:03:10,858 --> 00:03:13,961 I don't mean war architect. He was an actual architect. 18 00:03:14,027 --> 00:03:16,397 My father got these two messages. 19 00:03:16,464 --> 00:03:19,066 One was "Speer's been captured," and the other was, 20 00:03:19,132 --> 00:03:21,969 "It's a boy, Mr. Townshend." 21 00:03:23,971 --> 00:03:27,575 When I think about my childhood in the late '40s, '50s, 22 00:03:27,641 --> 00:03:29,643 it's almost like the world was black-and-white. 23 00:03:29,710 --> 00:03:30,978 It is very weird. 24 00:03:31,044 --> 00:03:32,946 Very Spartan living. 25 00:03:33,013 --> 00:03:35,215 We were still on food rationing. 26 00:03:35,283 --> 00:03:36,684 No cars in the street. 27 00:03:38,652 --> 00:03:41,034 After the war, there was bombed-out buildings 28 00:03:41,054 --> 00:03:43,291 that had loads of bricks, so we didn't need Lego. 29 00:03:43,357 --> 00:03:45,158 We had the real thing. 30 00:03:45,225 --> 00:03:47,575 Practically everybody I know that I grew up with, 31 00:03:47,595 --> 00:03:50,631 if they were wild and crazy and weird, or in a band, 32 00:03:50,698 --> 00:03:54,335 the chances were that they had some weird shit happen to them when they were kids. 33 00:03:57,871 --> 00:04:00,908 My parents were both working dance-band musicians, 34 00:04:00,974 --> 00:04:04,978 I grew up with the music of my father, which was the Basie Band, 35 00:04:05,045 --> 00:04:08,316 the Ellington Band, and great singers like Sarah Vaughan 36 00:04:08,382 --> 00:04:10,384 and Sinatra and Ella Fitzgerald. 37 00:04:10,451 --> 00:04:13,020 And I felt I couldn't even begin 38 00:04:13,086 --> 00:04:15,789 to emulate or occupy their territory. 39 00:04:19,727 --> 00:04:22,963 We were all interested in traditional jazz at the time. 40 00:04:23,030 --> 00:04:25,132 To me, trad jazz was something 41 00:04:25,198 --> 00:04:28,636 that was already a rebellious threat to the kind of serene 42 00:04:28,702 --> 00:04:31,872 dance-hall dance music that my father played. 43 00:04:31,939 --> 00:04:36,143 The first connection between the four talents of The Whocame in 1959, 44 00:04:36,209 --> 00:04:38,679 at a West London boys' school. 45 00:04:41,482 --> 00:04:44,318 I met John at Acton County Grammar School. 46 00:04:44,385 --> 00:04:46,587 Big guy. Funny. 47 00:04:46,654 --> 00:04:48,522 Very sharply dressed. 48 00:04:48,589 --> 00:04:53,126 John and Pete didn't really get to know one another well 49 00:04:53,193 --> 00:04:56,430 until they started up playing instruments together. 50 00:04:56,497 --> 00:04:59,433 Right from the beginning and right the way through our life, 51 00:04:59,500 --> 00:05:01,502 he was a great musical ally. 52 00:05:08,876 --> 00:05:10,978 Right over here, and you're, um... -John. 53 00:05:11,044 --> 00:05:14,247 You're John? And you're from... London too. 54 00:05:14,314 --> 00:05:15,616 From London too? Yeah. 55 00:05:26,059 --> 00:05:28,095 He was calling himself John Allison 56 00:05:28,161 --> 00:05:30,281 because his girlfriend was, of course, called Allison. 57 00:05:34,735 --> 00:05:37,037 We thought "Entwistle" was a really strange name 58 00:05:37,104 --> 00:05:38,539 for a band member. 59 00:05:38,606 --> 00:05:41,709 And we tried John Brown, and we thought, well, no. 60 00:05:41,775 --> 00:05:43,611 He's John Entwistle. 61 00:05:48,916 --> 00:05:51,318 The Who wouldn't have been The Who without Entwistle. 62 00:05:53,721 --> 00:05:55,723 He would fill the sound up with the bass. 63 00:05:57,157 --> 00:05:59,359 If you actually listen to any Who record 64 00:05:59,427 --> 00:06:02,262 and you isolate the bass, it's pretty astonishing what he's doing. 65 00:06:02,329 --> 00:06:04,612 It's nothing to do with what a normal bass player would do. 66 00:06:04,632 --> 00:06:09,069 * I'm a-gonna raise a fuss I'm a-gonna raise a holler * 67 00:06:12,239 --> 00:06:13,674 Entwistle stood still. 68 00:06:13,741 --> 00:06:16,644 You had Pete swinging his arm around like a windmill. 69 00:06:16,710 --> 00:06:19,680 You had Roger throwing his microphone around all over the place. 70 00:06:19,747 --> 00:06:23,584 Keith smacking away at the drums, and Dad stood away in the corner playing quietly. 71 00:06:23,651 --> 00:06:27,921 * The boss said * * No dice, son You gotta work late * 72 00:06:27,988 --> 00:06:29,857 I used to get cross 73 00:06:29,923 --> 00:06:32,426 that they didn't show John so much on the television. 74 00:06:32,493 --> 00:06:35,162 The cameras were always on Pete and Roge. 75 00:06:40,233 --> 00:06:44,271 He was, like, the central point in the spinning world, you know? 76 00:06:46,774 --> 00:06:49,943 I think a lot of people don't understand is that what he was doing 77 00:06:50,010 --> 00:06:53,413 is he was playing like a Bach organ. 78 00:06:53,481 --> 00:06:56,617 It was huge, massive, rich sound. 79 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,922 So I used to find my way inside there. 80 00:07:01,989 --> 00:07:04,958 I used to sit with John and sit inside, 81 00:07:05,025 --> 00:07:07,895 and he would follow me and support me, and we'd play together. 82 00:07:11,932 --> 00:07:15,636 John had such facility as a player, and really very unique. 83 00:07:15,703 --> 00:07:19,840 I don't think anyone had really gone into lead bass playing. 84 00:07:24,478 --> 00:07:26,680 He wasn't actually a quiet guy. 85 00:07:26,747 --> 00:07:29,149 He was just a very sardonic guy. 86 00:07:29,216 --> 00:07:31,652 Very cynical. He was very funny. 87 00:07:31,719 --> 00:07:33,821 But in that sort of laid-back way. 88 00:07:35,656 --> 00:07:37,891 Entwistle was uncompromising 89 00:07:37,958 --> 00:07:40,528 in leading his own life, you know. 90 00:07:40,594 --> 00:07:42,429 Afraid John takes after me. 91 00:07:42,496 --> 00:07:45,265 I like music, dancing, enjoying myself. 92 00:07:45,332 --> 00:07:48,401 Drinking. I love partying. 93 00:07:50,971 --> 00:07:53,206 I never, ever felt that 94 00:07:53,273 --> 00:07:58,579 John had any addictive problems at all, except one, 95 00:07:58,646 --> 00:08:00,548 which began with an H. 96 00:08:00,614 --> 00:08:02,616 It's a big shop in London called Harrods. 97 00:08:02,683 --> 00:08:04,384 That was his one addiction. 98 00:08:04,451 --> 00:08:06,987 He could never buy one pair of shoes. 99 00:08:07,054 --> 00:08:10,423 He always bought a dozen in each color, and the shirts and the trousers. 100 00:08:10,490 --> 00:08:12,292 He was certainly well dressed. 101 00:08:17,565 --> 00:08:20,033 Don't know about that skeleton fuckin' leather thing though 102 00:08:20,100 --> 00:08:22,469 that John Entwistle was... What's all that about? 103 00:08:24,972 --> 00:08:27,608 He was very musical right from the age of three. 104 00:08:27,675 --> 00:08:30,711 He knew all the pop songs that were in the charts, 105 00:08:30,778 --> 00:08:32,445 and he'd sing for hours. 106 00:08:32,512 --> 00:08:36,449 My first date with John was to go to a Boys' Brigade thing 107 00:08:36,516 --> 00:08:38,018 at the Albert Hall. 108 00:08:38,085 --> 00:08:40,020 He used to play the bugle. 109 00:08:40,087 --> 00:08:42,022 He joined the school orchestra. 110 00:08:42,089 --> 00:08:45,793 He wanted to play the trumpet, but they didn't have any left. 111 00:08:45,859 --> 00:08:48,395 The only instrument left was the French horn. 112 00:08:50,397 --> 00:08:52,332 He practiced in the loo. 113 00:08:52,399 --> 00:08:54,534 He became quite proficient. 114 00:08:54,602 --> 00:08:56,870 John Entwistle was the only one of us 115 00:08:56,937 --> 00:08:59,973 that kind of had any musical training at all. 116 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,611 He made his own first bass with his own hands, you know. 117 00:09:03,677 --> 00:09:07,380 What he realized was that he had the power 118 00:09:07,447 --> 00:09:10,784 to change the fuckin' instrument. 119 00:09:10,851 --> 00:09:12,953 You know, you don't change the trumpet. 120 00:09:13,020 --> 00:09:15,222 But the bass guitar was relatively new. 121 00:09:15,288 --> 00:09:17,791 He started to play it differently, hold it differently. 122 00:09:17,858 --> 00:09:21,228 Being on stage with a guitar, with a big amplifier, 123 00:09:21,294 --> 00:09:23,196 it became his voice. 124 00:09:30,103 --> 00:09:33,006 I was walking down the road one day, coming home from work. 125 00:09:33,073 --> 00:09:35,175 I worked in a sheet-metal work factory. 126 00:09:35,242 --> 00:09:39,179 I noticed this guy coming towards me who I recognized from being at school. 127 00:09:39,246 --> 00:09:42,883 And across his shoulder, he's got this strange-looking instrument. 128 00:09:42,950 --> 00:09:46,754 So I said to him, you know, stupidly, "What you got there?" 129 00:09:46,820 --> 00:09:48,488 He said, "It's a bass." 130 00:09:48,555 --> 00:09:50,824 They all went to the same school. 131 00:09:50,891 --> 00:09:53,460 Roger was at the same school, but he got expelled. 132 00:09:53,526 --> 00:09:56,129 I think he was accused of setting fire to the school. 133 00:09:56,196 --> 00:09:58,331 Roger was a bit of a tearaway. 134 00:09:58,398 --> 00:10:02,135 It's been said that I was a bully later on in my school career, 135 00:10:02,202 --> 00:10:05,005 but I don't think I actually was. 136 00:10:05,072 --> 00:10:06,606 I just loved to fight. 137 00:10:07,908 --> 00:10:09,409 Still do. 138 00:10:09,476 --> 00:10:11,144 When I first met Roger, 139 00:10:11,211 --> 00:10:13,613 he was one of the most powerful, charismatic, 140 00:10:13,681 --> 00:10:16,049 and literally powerful men I'd ever come across. 141 00:10:16,116 --> 00:10:18,318 You know, he was like Elvis Presley. 142 00:10:19,619 --> 00:10:22,856 Elvis, to me, was the guy I wanted to be. 143 00:10:22,923 --> 00:10:26,393 But realistically, the guy who showed me 144 00:10:26,459 --> 00:10:29,730 that I could, instead of just dreaming about this 145 00:10:29,797 --> 00:10:33,433 could actually go out there and do it, was a guy called Lonnie Donegan. 146 00:10:36,036 --> 00:10:40,607 * Sweet 16, goes to church Just to see the boys * 147 00:10:40,674 --> 00:10:43,510 Lonnie Donegan was a big influence on a lot of people. 148 00:10:43,576 --> 00:10:46,413 It's the rhythm, the beat and the freshness of it. 149 00:10:46,479 --> 00:10:48,882 * She's only putting on The style * 150 00:10:48,949 --> 00:10:53,486 * Yeah, putting on the agony Putting on the style * 151 00:10:53,553 --> 00:10:56,456 It had that kind of rock-and-roll sort of pace to it. 152 00:10:56,523 --> 00:10:58,759 Skiffle is really basically 153 00:10:58,826 --> 00:11:00,794 early American folk songs. 154 00:11:00,861 --> 00:11:03,101 It was so easy. Anyone could make a skiffle group. 155 00:11:03,163 --> 00:11:05,165 You could do it with home objects. 156 00:11:05,232 --> 00:11:07,567 For drums, we had an old washing board. 157 00:11:07,634 --> 00:11:10,170 Tea chest bass, which is basically a tea chest 158 00:11:10,237 --> 00:11:12,239 with a piece of string and a broomstick. 159 00:11:12,305 --> 00:11:15,743 It lifted the music from, like, big bands 160 00:11:15,809 --> 00:11:18,378 into people's parlors. 161 00:11:18,445 --> 00:11:19,947 You could do it yourself, like. 162 00:11:20,013 --> 00:11:22,549 Every street in Shepherd's Bush had it's own skiffle group. 163 00:11:22,615 --> 00:11:26,653 On Fielding Road, Roger Daltrey founded The Detours 164 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,223 with a guitar he made himself at the sheet-metal factory. 165 00:11:30,290 --> 00:11:32,893 At the age of 17 or 18, you know, 166 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,062 he was the king of the neighborhood. 167 00:11:36,997 --> 00:11:39,532 So anyway, I'm walking home from work one night, and immediately 168 00:11:39,599 --> 00:11:41,735 I kind of felt a bonding with this guy. 169 00:11:41,802 --> 00:11:45,338 So I said, "You in a band?" And he said, "Yeah, I'm in a band." 170 00:11:45,405 --> 00:11:47,540 I said, "Have you got any work?" 171 00:11:47,607 --> 00:11:50,243 He said, "No." I said, "Well, we have." 172 00:11:50,310 --> 00:11:53,013 I said, "Do you get paid for your work?" He said, "No." 173 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:54,915 I said, "We do." 174 00:11:54,982 --> 00:11:56,716 I was lying. 175 00:11:56,784 --> 00:12:00,087 I said, "We're looking for a bass player. Would you like to join?" 176 00:12:01,621 --> 00:12:04,925 Shortly after, Reg Bowen on rhythm guitar left the band, 177 00:12:04,992 --> 00:12:07,828 and John said, "Well, I know someone who's a good rhythm player." 178 00:12:07,895 --> 00:12:09,897 So we said, "Well, bring him along." 179 00:12:11,731 --> 00:12:14,434 John was very important for me because he never let me go. 180 00:12:14,501 --> 00:12:17,437 He could've done. A couple of the other guys did let me go. 181 00:12:17,504 --> 00:12:20,207 John was very encouraging to me and nurturing 182 00:12:20,273 --> 00:12:23,811 and used to constantly say to me, "No, you're a good musician." 183 00:12:23,877 --> 00:12:26,780 He was just vital to me in those days. 184 00:12:28,348 --> 00:12:32,519 By 1962, The Detours were playing pubs as a five-piece... 185 00:12:32,752 --> 00:12:35,889 John on bass, Doug Sandom on the drums, 186 00:12:35,956 --> 00:12:38,926 Pete played rhythm guitar, Colin Dawson singing, 187 00:12:38,992 --> 00:12:40,861 Roger playing lead guitar. 188 00:12:41,028 --> 00:12:43,797 It was Roger's band. The Detours were Roger's band. 189 00:12:44,031 --> 00:12:46,433 Roger was the driving force. Roger supplied all the energy, 190 00:12:46,499 --> 00:12:49,302 and he drove the van and picked people up and arranged everything. 191 00:12:49,369 --> 00:12:51,872 * Some way someday * 192 00:12:51,939 --> 00:12:53,807 * I'll find a way * 193 00:12:53,874 --> 00:12:56,977 * To make you see my way * 194 00:12:57,044 --> 00:12:59,412 In '63, Roger gave up the guitar, 195 00:12:59,479 --> 00:13:02,049 fired the singer and took over as front man. 196 00:13:02,115 --> 00:13:06,019 When there was just the three of us as a band... 197 00:13:06,086 --> 00:13:08,989 just two instruments, Pete and John... 198 00:13:09,056 --> 00:13:11,925 the only thing with strings was Pete and John... 199 00:13:11,992 --> 00:13:14,928 and I remember saying to him, "It sounds fucking great." 200 00:13:15,662 --> 00:13:19,399 * You see my way * 201 00:13:20,901 --> 00:13:23,871 * Oh, yeah * 202 00:13:26,406 --> 00:13:28,108 * Oh, yeah * 203 00:13:30,143 --> 00:13:34,814 * Everything gon' be all right This mornin' * 204 00:13:39,887 --> 00:13:43,156 The other guys in the band were working, and I was at art school. 205 00:13:43,223 --> 00:13:45,558 I was on a grant. I was having an easy life. 206 00:13:45,625 --> 00:13:47,928 I was smoking dope, listening to, you know, records. 207 00:13:47,995 --> 00:13:50,864 I met Pete when we were in art school, 208 00:13:50,931 --> 00:13:53,433 and I didn't even know he was in a band. 209 00:13:53,500 --> 00:13:56,636 We'd got this flat that had belonged to 210 00:13:56,703 --> 00:13:59,372 this American guy, Tom Wright. 211 00:13:59,439 --> 00:14:03,676 Tom Wright had a huge blues archive from the States. 212 00:14:05,445 --> 00:14:07,847 * Now, when I was a young boy * 213 00:14:07,915 --> 00:14:10,417 * At the age of five * 214 00:14:10,483 --> 00:14:12,719 All that early blues stuff... John Lee Hooker, 215 00:14:12,785 --> 00:14:14,554 Howlin' Wolf, Jimmy Reed. 216 00:14:21,328 --> 00:14:24,064 All those young kids loved the blues, 217 00:14:24,131 --> 00:14:27,800 because the working classes are in a similar sociological position, 218 00:14:27,867 --> 00:14:30,503 you know what I mean, to the blacks in America. 219 00:14:30,570 --> 00:14:32,605 My father was in the war. 220 00:14:32,672 --> 00:14:35,442 His ship gets torpedoed. 221 00:14:35,508 --> 00:14:38,645 My mother, who is pregnant, goes to the shipping office, 222 00:14:38,711 --> 00:14:41,448 as she did every week, to get his salary. 223 00:14:41,514 --> 00:14:44,784 And they say, "Oh, no, there's no salary this week, Mrs. Stamp. 224 00:14:44,851 --> 00:14:46,619 The ship's gone down." 225 00:14:48,989 --> 00:14:52,259 Right? So that was the status of the working class, right? 226 00:14:52,325 --> 00:14:56,229 * Well, it's a shame Shame, shame * 227 00:14:56,296 --> 00:14:59,632 * Shame, shame on you * 228 00:14:59,699 --> 00:15:02,869 We identified with American blues 229 00:15:02,936 --> 00:15:05,672 and those early black American artists. 230 00:15:05,738 --> 00:15:08,408 We started listening to that and thought, "This is great." 231 00:15:08,475 --> 00:15:11,311 And we started playing the blues. I played the harmonica. 232 00:15:15,715 --> 00:15:18,151 Through that music, we became aware 233 00:15:18,218 --> 00:15:21,321 of the limitations of our drummer. 234 00:15:21,388 --> 00:15:24,391 Doug Sandom was fired in April of 1964. 235 00:15:24,457 --> 00:15:27,794 * Oh, it's a shame on you * 236 00:15:37,704 --> 00:15:41,308 We got a session drummer in for a couple of gigs we had lined up. 237 00:15:41,374 --> 00:15:44,877 And we were playing one night at the Oldfield Hotel in Greenford. 238 00:15:46,179 --> 00:15:48,915 All I remember is I was standing onstage 239 00:15:48,982 --> 00:15:52,452 getting ready to take a break, when a-a... 240 00:15:53,886 --> 00:15:57,257 gingerbread man appeared in the audience in front of me, 241 00:15:57,324 --> 00:16:01,561 looking up at me with these great, big puppy dog brown eyes. 242 00:16:01,628 --> 00:16:03,530 He wanted to be a Beach Boy, 243 00:16:03,596 --> 00:16:06,533 so he bought some hydrogen peroxide and bleached his hair. 244 00:16:06,599 --> 00:16:09,269 It come out bright orange. 245 00:16:09,336 --> 00:16:13,506 And he came up and, with all the arrogance in the world, said, 246 00:16:13,573 --> 00:16:15,408 "I hear you're looking for a drummer. 247 00:16:15,475 --> 00:16:17,610 Well, I'm much better than the one you've got." 248 00:16:19,712 --> 00:16:21,148 He sat down. 249 00:16:21,214 --> 00:16:24,984 Pete starts off with a pick screeching down the string. 250 00:16:25,052 --> 00:16:28,421 Gets into a very heavy riff. 251 00:16:28,488 --> 00:16:31,391 All of a sudden, it's like a jet engine 252 00:16:31,458 --> 00:16:33,993 started up at the back of me. 253 00:16:41,568 --> 00:16:44,104 It was like magic. 254 00:16:44,171 --> 00:16:47,006 All of a sudden, it... everything worked. 255 00:16:47,074 --> 00:16:48,608 We were just astonished. 256 00:16:48,675 --> 00:16:50,277 This kid was the missing link, 257 00:16:50,343 --> 00:16:54,414 and it was obvious from the first minute of him playing with us. 258 00:16:59,319 --> 00:17:02,455 The whole dance floor stopped and started looking. It was extraordinary. 259 00:17:02,522 --> 00:17:06,126 You didn't watch drummers. He was the only drummer I know that you'd watch. 260 00:17:08,395 --> 00:17:10,497 Moon was a star. 261 00:17:23,143 --> 00:17:25,312 He was a shooting star. That's what he was. 262 00:17:26,546 --> 00:17:29,849 He was clearly an alcoholic, an addict, a sex addict. 263 00:17:31,084 --> 00:17:34,053 * Who are you? * 264 00:17:34,121 --> 00:17:36,022 * Who, who, who, who * 265 00:17:36,089 --> 00:17:39,792 On the one hand, he was this lunatic who, you know, 266 00:17:39,859 --> 00:17:43,296 couldn't wait to get on a drum kit and just explode with it. 267 00:17:43,363 --> 00:17:45,898 * Who are you? * 268 00:17:45,965 --> 00:17:49,902 And on the other hand, he was a very quiet, saddened person. 269 00:17:49,969 --> 00:17:51,671 * Who are you? * 270 00:17:51,738 --> 00:17:54,774 He clearly had tremendous esteem issue problems. 271 00:17:54,841 --> 00:17:57,210 He was a complex little ball of difficulty. 272 00:18:00,180 --> 00:18:02,482 Usually leave and get drunk. 273 00:18:02,549 --> 00:18:05,218 He wasn't like that as a boy. That's what I can't understand. 274 00:18:05,285 --> 00:18:06,886 He always did as he was told. 275 00:18:06,953 --> 00:18:09,989 He was very quiet, and I had no problem with him at all. 276 00:18:10,056 --> 00:18:11,491 He was a good boy. 277 00:18:13,926 --> 00:18:16,062 By the time he was 16, 278 00:18:16,129 --> 00:18:20,300 Moon was playing American surf music in a band called The Beachcombers. 279 00:18:20,367 --> 00:18:22,435 The Beachcombers was the first band 280 00:18:22,502 --> 00:18:26,038 that I remember him having at home and setting up in the front room. 281 00:18:28,608 --> 00:18:30,543 Keith liked the Beach Boys. 282 00:18:30,610 --> 00:18:32,379 I f... didn't like 'em. 283 00:18:32,445 --> 00:18:35,047 * Fun, fun, fun till your daddy Takes the T-Bird away * 284 00:18:35,114 --> 00:18:37,297 You know, and they would sing away. 285 00:18:37,317 --> 00:18:40,553 * Barbara Ann Ba-Ba, Ba-Barbara Ann * -* Barbara Ann * 286 00:18:40,620 --> 00:18:42,722 * Ba-Ba-Ba Ba-Barbara Ann * 287 00:18:42,789 --> 00:18:46,259 * You got me rockin' And a-rollin', rockin' And a-reelin', Barbara Ann * 288 00:18:46,326 --> 00:18:48,308 But he liked to do those backing vocals... 289 00:18:48,328 --> 00:18:50,763 you know, the girl-y backing vocals in a lot of their songs. 290 00:18:50,830 --> 00:18:53,032 The other thing that's really important, of course, 291 00:18:53,099 --> 00:18:55,602 is that Keith was a very lyrical drummer. 292 00:19:01,641 --> 00:19:04,311 Keith was like an orchestra on the drums. 293 00:19:04,377 --> 00:19:06,646 He wasn't a time drummer, like, "dum-dum-dum." 294 00:19:06,713 --> 00:19:08,881 It was, like, all around the kit. 295 00:19:15,655 --> 00:19:17,557 Moon was doing things that 296 00:19:17,624 --> 00:19:20,827 just made us all work a hundred percent harder. 297 00:19:22,028 --> 00:19:24,331 Not faster, not slower. 298 00:19:24,397 --> 00:19:26,399 A hundred percent harder. 299 00:19:32,672 --> 00:19:35,708 In late April 1964, he joined The Detours 300 00:19:35,775 --> 00:19:37,877 and started playing the blues. 301 00:19:37,944 --> 00:19:40,680 * Hey, fellas Have you heard the news? * 302 00:19:40,747 --> 00:19:44,517 When you've got a 12-bar sequence, it can become monotonous. 303 00:19:44,584 --> 00:19:47,920 Moonie had a very short attention span when it came to boredom. 304 00:19:47,987 --> 00:19:50,723 He started to double up the beat. 305 00:19:50,790 --> 00:19:52,892 And that led to Pete doubling the guitar. 306 00:19:55,662 --> 00:19:58,665 It led John to play more jazzy bits in between. 307 00:20:00,467 --> 00:20:04,404 And from that, what we became famous for evolved. 308 00:20:05,672 --> 00:20:08,241 That's when The Who started to have its own identity. 309 00:20:08,308 --> 00:20:11,511 We played the blues, but we'd put our own stamp on it. 310 00:20:25,492 --> 00:20:28,828 We'd been The Detours for quite a while, and we'd built up 311 00:20:28,895 --> 00:20:32,265 quite a following in West London on the pub circuit. 312 00:20:32,332 --> 00:20:35,201 John Entwistle, he'd heard about this band 313 00:20:35,268 --> 00:20:37,348 who'd got a record out in America called The Detours. 314 00:20:37,370 --> 00:20:39,706 So we sat around and had this think tank 315 00:20:39,772 --> 00:20:42,609 in Sunnyside Road, where Barney and I had a flat. 316 00:20:42,675 --> 00:20:44,444 And the band never came back there. 317 00:20:44,511 --> 00:20:46,346 I don't think they'd ever been there before, 318 00:20:46,413 --> 00:20:49,416 because Pete and I were art students smoking dope, 319 00:20:49,482 --> 00:20:50,917 and they didn't approve. 320 00:20:50,983 --> 00:20:54,020 And we were just jokingly throwing names around. 321 00:20:54,086 --> 00:20:56,656 We were trying to be avant-garde or something. 322 00:20:56,723 --> 00:20:58,563 Think of, like, The Nothing or names like that. 323 00:20:58,591 --> 00:21:00,860 I came up with The Hair. 324 00:21:00,927 --> 00:21:03,496 'Cause everything was about hair at the time. 325 00:21:03,563 --> 00:21:07,534 And I said The Who, 'cause basically I was just thinking of it on posters. 326 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,236 You know, one of those very quick conversations. 327 00:21:10,303 --> 00:21:11,938 "The Hair." "The Who." 328 00:21:12,004 --> 00:21:14,006 And everybody was laughing at each one. 329 00:21:14,073 --> 00:21:16,976 And for a while, it was kind of a bit of a war. 330 00:21:17,043 --> 00:21:20,880 "Well, we could call it The Hair and The Who." And it sounded like a pub. 331 00:21:20,947 --> 00:21:23,916 But The Who was something we came back to. 332 00:21:23,983 --> 00:21:28,521 It didn't take very long for us to carry our audience into the change. 333 00:21:28,588 --> 00:21:31,223 Within two weeks, they'd forgotten about The Detours 334 00:21:31,290 --> 00:21:33,292 and they knew that it was The Who. 335 00:21:36,863 --> 00:21:39,732 * Dressed right For a beach fight * 336 00:21:39,799 --> 00:21:42,502 * But I just can't explain * 337 00:21:42,569 --> 00:21:44,771 We were the first teenagers after the war. 338 00:21:44,837 --> 00:21:47,574 All we wanted to do was just 339 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,643 liberate ourselves, really, and have fun. 340 00:21:50,710 --> 00:21:53,413 South Coast police have warned that if the fights 341 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,282 between rival gangs of mods and rockers continue... 342 00:22:00,753 --> 00:22:03,723 We used to go to Brighton, areas like that, 343 00:22:03,790 --> 00:22:07,527 it was traditional that you would end up clashing. 344 00:22:07,594 --> 00:22:10,196 We were teenagers together. We were mods. 345 00:22:17,537 --> 00:22:20,840 It was all about a pop-art gang culture. 346 00:22:23,075 --> 00:22:25,778 We were called mods 'cause we were modernist. 347 00:22:25,845 --> 00:22:28,681 There was a type of, like, "fuck you," 348 00:22:28,748 --> 00:22:31,984 rebellious sort of behavior about the mod kids. 349 00:22:32,051 --> 00:22:35,054 It was very much, "Let's get out of this class system." 350 00:22:39,291 --> 00:22:42,395 The original mods were very smart. 351 00:22:42,462 --> 00:22:46,165 Short Italian jackets, tight trousers, winklepicker shoes. 352 00:22:46,232 --> 00:22:50,537 Perfectly tailored sort of skintight, sort of like sharkskin suit, 353 00:22:50,603 --> 00:22:54,373 with a little mascara on and a special haircut on Saturday nights. 354 00:22:54,441 --> 00:22:59,446 We spent all of our money on clothes. We were like little peacocks. 355 00:22:59,512 --> 00:23:02,014 * I'm the hippiest number In town * 356 00:23:02,081 --> 00:23:05,452 * And I'll tell you why And I'll tell you why * 357 00:23:05,518 --> 00:23:09,321 * I'm the snappiest dresser Right down to My inch-wide tie * 358 00:23:10,757 --> 00:23:13,860 Along came this guy called Pete Meaden. He was a publicist. 359 00:23:13,926 --> 00:23:15,628 And he transformed the band. 360 00:23:15,695 --> 00:23:18,531 He certainly had a finger on the pulse 361 00:23:18,598 --> 00:23:22,101 of this embryo of a fashion seed. 362 00:23:22,168 --> 00:23:24,804 And Pete Meaden had this theory that the mods 363 00:23:24,871 --> 00:23:27,306 were like the new religion, the new army, 364 00:23:27,373 --> 00:23:28,708 the new everything, 365 00:23:28,775 --> 00:23:31,911 and projected that onto us as individuals. 366 00:23:31,978 --> 00:23:35,014 He said, "Get out there, cut your hair, go out Carnaby Street, 367 00:23:35,081 --> 00:23:38,117 buy all the clever gear," and all of a sudden we're a mod band. 368 00:23:49,496 --> 00:23:53,432 Pete Meaden also said, "You've gotta change the name... The Who." 369 00:23:53,500 --> 00:23:56,536 And in that sense, he was right in getting us to be mods, 370 00:23:56,603 --> 00:23:59,672 but he was wrong in changing the name The Who to The High Numbers. 371 00:23:59,739 --> 00:24:03,442 We kept seeing these posters for The High Numbers, "Who" in brackets. 372 00:24:03,510 --> 00:24:06,646 They used to play in West Hampstead, the Railway Club. 373 00:24:06,713 --> 00:24:09,649 And it was a little hall, tiny little shabby hall. 374 00:24:09,716 --> 00:24:11,684 The Who came up as The High Numbers. 375 00:24:11,751 --> 00:24:14,153 We didn't know who they were. We just went up there. 376 00:24:14,220 --> 00:24:16,789 And the drummer was absolutely mental. 377 00:24:20,192 --> 00:24:23,329 * Gather round My swingin' friends * 378 00:24:23,395 --> 00:24:26,499 * Let me forget My hurtin' tears * 379 00:24:26,566 --> 00:24:29,869 * About the only girl I ever loved * 380 00:24:29,936 --> 00:24:33,139 * The only one, baby I, I gotta dance * 381 00:24:33,205 --> 00:24:35,374 * Just to keep from crying * 382 00:24:35,441 --> 00:24:38,477 * Gotta dance Just to keep from crying * 383 00:24:38,545 --> 00:24:42,381 * Whoa-oa, do the fly The flop, the twist * 384 00:24:42,448 --> 00:24:45,384 * Everybody It goes like this * 385 00:24:45,451 --> 00:24:48,420 * You gotta dance Got me swayin' all right * 386 00:24:48,487 --> 00:24:51,991 * Gotta dance Got me swayin', all right * 387 00:24:52,058 --> 00:24:55,595 * Do the bird, the fly * 388 00:24:55,662 --> 00:24:58,631 * Come on, gang, you know Bye, bye, bye, oh, yeah * 389 00:25:00,900 --> 00:25:03,636 They were amazing. It was nothing like the Beatles. 390 00:25:03,703 --> 00:25:05,672 Even the Stones. It was nothing like that. 391 00:25:05,738 --> 00:25:08,608 And they were playing music that you didn't hear very often... 392 00:25:08,675 --> 00:25:10,777 Tamla-Motown and blues. 393 00:25:10,843 --> 00:25:13,680 They were a mod band, and I was a mod. 394 00:25:13,746 --> 00:25:15,514 * Well, baby, so * 395 00:25:15,582 --> 00:25:18,651 * You know it's all right * 396 00:25:32,965 --> 00:25:36,135 When I met Kit, we decided to start to come up with 397 00:25:36,202 --> 00:25:38,204 an idea to make a film. 398 00:25:38,270 --> 00:25:41,841 We came up with a concept that we would find a group, 399 00:25:43,175 --> 00:25:46,946 we would manage the group to success, 400 00:25:47,013 --> 00:25:50,049 and we would all the time film it. 401 00:25:50,116 --> 00:25:51,751 This was the idea. 402 00:25:51,818 --> 00:25:55,154 Kit and I, we went up and down England looking for a group. 403 00:25:55,221 --> 00:25:59,225 We couldn't find anyone to put in the film, basically, until we saw The High Numbers. 404 00:25:59,291 --> 00:26:02,028 * Let me tell you 'bout Ooh Poo Pah Doo * 405 00:26:03,796 --> 00:26:06,098 * Baby, they call me the most * 406 00:26:07,499 --> 00:26:09,769 * Yeah, Ooh Poo Pah Doo * 407 00:26:11,070 --> 00:26:12,905 * Baby, call me the most * 408 00:26:12,972 --> 00:26:15,655 Lambert said immediately he knew that was the band he was looking for. 409 00:26:15,675 --> 00:26:17,877 * And I won't stop tryin' * 410 00:26:17,944 --> 00:26:19,946 * Till I create A disturbance in your mind * 411 00:26:20,012 --> 00:26:23,415 We met Lambert and Stamp, and the first thing they wanted to do, 412 00:26:23,482 --> 00:26:26,819 they loved everything else about us except the name. 413 00:26:26,886 --> 00:26:30,657 And then we told them we used to be called The Who. They went, "Great!" 414 00:26:33,292 --> 00:26:34,894 They were very individual. 415 00:26:34,961 --> 00:26:38,064 They didn't really get along, you know, that personally. 416 00:26:38,130 --> 00:26:41,400 I'd been in a gang in my adolescence. It wasn't that different. 417 00:26:46,172 --> 00:26:48,174 It just came across, not antisocial, 418 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,910 but they weren't there to try to please people. 419 00:26:50,977 --> 00:26:53,112 They were there to do what they were gonna do, 420 00:26:53,179 --> 00:26:55,047 and if you liked it, that's up to you. 421 00:26:57,083 --> 00:27:00,720 Pete was using these very high-volume amplifiers. 422 00:27:00,787 --> 00:27:04,090 He would, because of the power in the amplifier, create feedback. 423 00:27:07,894 --> 00:27:10,830 He did this thing where he used to lift the guitar like this. 424 00:27:10,897 --> 00:27:12,598 We had a very low ceiling there. 425 00:27:12,665 --> 00:27:15,567 I used to bang it to make it go boing, boing, boing, boing. 426 00:27:15,634 --> 00:27:18,971 And the guitar neck went through the ceiling. 427 00:27:19,038 --> 00:27:21,974 When it broke, I thought, well, I may as well finish it off. 428 00:27:24,844 --> 00:27:27,613 We just stood there. "What is going on here? It's great." 429 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,949 I mean, 430 00:27:30,016 --> 00:27:32,451 nobody had ever smashed anything on a stage. 431 00:27:34,854 --> 00:27:37,423 I saw Keith looking at me. 432 00:27:39,225 --> 00:27:41,728 Next week, I start banging my other guitar 433 00:27:41,794 --> 00:27:44,563 and immediately the drums were over, sticks through... 434 00:27:46,032 --> 00:27:48,334 Pete said afterwards, "Once I knew 435 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,737 that Moonie was with me, then I would do it again." 436 00:27:58,544 --> 00:28:01,580 The guitar became, when it was electrified, 437 00:28:01,647 --> 00:28:05,684 in my case, an instrument of control, 438 00:28:05,752 --> 00:28:08,687 aggression, latent violence. 439 00:28:11,423 --> 00:28:14,060 People say to me, "It's just stagecraft, isn't it? 440 00:28:14,126 --> 00:28:16,162 Just showing off, smashing your guitar." 441 00:28:16,228 --> 00:28:19,131 To me it was far, far, far more than that. 442 00:28:22,034 --> 00:28:24,036 At art school, Pete and Barnesy 443 00:28:24,103 --> 00:28:26,505 had attended lectures by Gustav Metzger, 444 00:28:26,572 --> 00:28:29,208 a German artist who destroyed his creations 445 00:28:29,275 --> 00:28:32,278 as a political protest against nuclear weapons. 446 00:28:32,344 --> 00:28:35,714 Gustav Metzger came to my college to do lectures. 447 00:28:35,782 --> 00:28:39,118 It was called The Destruction in Art symposium. 448 00:28:39,185 --> 00:28:42,454 Yoko Ono did that thing where she had her clothes cut up, 449 00:28:42,521 --> 00:28:46,458 and he slashed his way through a canvas with a samurai sword, 450 00:28:46,525 --> 00:28:51,063 and next thing I knew, I'm breaking up guitars at gigs. 451 00:28:52,664 --> 00:28:55,902 I thought it was a bit sort of airy-fairy, know what I mean? 452 00:28:55,968 --> 00:28:58,070 It was a bit sort of like, why bother? 453 00:28:58,137 --> 00:29:01,107 You're fucking angry, you're smashing your guitar up. It looks great. 454 00:29:01,173 --> 00:29:03,475 It does suggest the rage that we all feel. 455 00:29:05,244 --> 00:29:08,114 It really did annoy me that the visual 456 00:29:08,180 --> 00:29:11,350 kind of took over from what was really going on. 457 00:29:11,417 --> 00:29:13,585 I'd even have the guys in the band going, 458 00:29:13,652 --> 00:29:15,721 "What a lot of pompous, pretentious drivel." 459 00:29:15,788 --> 00:29:17,756 And I'd go, "No, it's auto-destructive art." 460 00:29:34,573 --> 00:29:37,409 Pete was, even in those days, in a class of his own. 461 00:29:39,979 --> 00:29:43,449 It was this act, you know, smashing up the instruments, feedback, 462 00:29:43,515 --> 00:29:46,518 Pete's windmilling arm. 463 00:29:46,585 --> 00:29:49,956 He did this sort of thing that the kids called the Birdman. 464 00:29:51,757 --> 00:29:55,327 Lambert and Stamp got us a gig at the Marquee in the West End of London, 465 00:29:55,394 --> 00:29:58,264 and Kit had this poster made of Pete with the guitar 466 00:29:58,330 --> 00:30:01,433 in the bird-like... 467 00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:04,236 sideways and a profile of his nose. 468 00:30:04,303 --> 00:30:06,205 Fabulous. Absolutely classic. 469 00:30:06,272 --> 00:30:09,308 You could not ignore that poster. It was like, "What is The Who?" 470 00:30:19,685 --> 00:30:22,254 Within a month, the queues would be 471 00:30:22,321 --> 00:30:25,504 all the way down Wardour Street, and they would be turning thousands of people away. 472 00:30:25,524 --> 00:30:28,127 It was incredible. 473 00:30:28,194 --> 00:30:31,964 I've got to admit that I felt that we were special. 474 00:30:32,031 --> 00:30:35,001 * Whenever she calls my name * 475 00:30:35,067 --> 00:30:38,971 * Yeah, yeah, yeah I can't explain * 476 00:30:39,038 --> 00:30:41,240 * I feel, I feel * 477 00:30:41,307 --> 00:30:43,976 * Yeah, I feel This burning flame * 478 00:30:44,043 --> 00:30:46,712 It's to do with attitude. 479 00:30:46,778 --> 00:30:49,281 It's like, you can hit your hand like that. 480 00:30:49,348 --> 00:30:51,350 That's a tempo. 481 00:30:51,417 --> 00:30:53,452 Or you can hit it like this. 482 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,356 Now, it's two totally different attitudes. 483 00:30:57,423 --> 00:30:59,558 The tempo hasn't changed at all. 484 00:30:59,625 --> 00:31:03,963 And The Who always did it with that attitude of drive. 485 00:31:04,030 --> 00:31:08,200 * Oh, yeah, oh, yeah * 486 00:31:09,902 --> 00:31:13,439 * Oh, yeah, oh, yeah * 487 00:31:21,647 --> 00:31:24,984 * Heat wave * * Burnin' in my heart * 488 00:31:25,051 --> 00:31:28,887 I remember one thing that we were very much aware of 489 00:31:28,955 --> 00:31:33,159 was that we were still copying other people's songs. 490 00:31:33,225 --> 00:31:34,826 * Heat wave * 491 00:31:38,297 --> 00:31:41,400 By 1964, The Beatles were revolutionizing 492 00:31:41,467 --> 00:31:43,802 popular music with their songwriting. 493 00:31:43,869 --> 00:31:47,273 The Rolling Stones and the Kinks joined the British invasion of America 494 00:31:47,339 --> 00:31:49,408 by recording original material. 495 00:31:49,475 --> 00:31:52,144 * Girl You really got me going * 496 00:31:52,211 --> 00:31:55,414 * You got me so I don't know What I'm doing * 497 00:31:55,481 --> 00:31:59,118 We needed a songwriter in the group, and Pete turned out to be one. 498 00:31:59,185 --> 00:32:03,255 I listened to a couple of Kinks songs and just produced this rhythm. 499 00:32:13,199 --> 00:32:16,935 * Got a feeling inside * * Can't explain * 500 00:32:17,003 --> 00:32:20,339 * Certain kind * * Can't explain * 501 00:32:20,406 --> 00:32:23,442 * I feel hot and cold * * Can't explain * 502 00:32:23,509 --> 00:32:26,878 - * Down in my soul, yeah * - * Can't explain * 503 00:32:26,945 --> 00:32:30,482 Unlike The Kinks, what on the surface appears to be 504 00:32:30,549 --> 00:32:32,784 a very frilly little pop song 505 00:32:32,851 --> 00:32:36,355 is a much, much bigger statement from the vocal... 506 00:32:36,422 --> 00:32:38,624 "I've got a feeling inside I can't explain." 507 00:32:38,690 --> 00:32:43,229 And you could see that Townshend as a writer had a huge potential. 508 00:32:43,295 --> 00:32:46,332 'Cause he wasn't going the normal way that pop songs go. 509 00:32:46,398 --> 00:32:47,799 It was going internal. 510 00:32:47,866 --> 00:32:50,836 * Can't explain I think it's love * 511 00:32:50,902 --> 00:32:54,473 * Try to say it to you When I feel blue * 512 00:32:54,540 --> 00:32:56,442 * But I can't explain * 513 00:32:56,508 --> 00:33:00,346 Back in those early days, I thought, "I'm not gonna write songs forever. 514 00:33:00,412 --> 00:33:02,048 This is boring." You know. 515 00:33:02,114 --> 00:33:04,483 I really thought "Can't Explain" was quite childish. 516 00:33:08,587 --> 00:33:12,058 Pete's home-recorded demo of the song would get them signed. 517 00:33:12,124 --> 00:33:14,126 He was 19. 518 00:33:14,193 --> 00:33:16,962 He had it on tape, which I played over the phone 519 00:33:17,029 --> 00:33:18,930 to Shel Talmy. 520 00:33:18,997 --> 00:33:23,169 The demo I heard was about a minute and ten seconds long. 521 00:33:23,235 --> 00:33:26,238 Probably safe to say in about the first, uh, 522 00:33:26,305 --> 00:33:29,041 30 to 45 seconds, I said, "Yes." 523 00:33:33,045 --> 00:33:34,713 I said "I will get us a deal." 524 00:33:34,780 --> 00:33:37,883 Kit told us this recording deal. 525 00:33:37,949 --> 00:33:41,453 And, I mean, I'm a Shepherd's Bush boy. You know, work the markets. 526 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,356 When Kit told us our percentage, 527 00:33:44,423 --> 00:33:48,260 it had something like a couple of cents on the end of it. 528 00:33:48,327 --> 00:33:50,796 When Kit Lambert and Chris Stamp 529 00:33:50,862 --> 00:33:53,932 were managing the band, they got a very bad deal. 530 00:33:53,999 --> 00:33:56,368 I went round to all the record shops, 531 00:33:56,435 --> 00:33:59,705 gave them free copies, gave them posters, 532 00:33:59,771 --> 00:34:02,274 and helped push it that way. 533 00:34:02,341 --> 00:34:05,511 But then luckily Radio Caroline played it. 534 00:34:05,577 --> 00:34:08,180 * Caroline The sound of ignition * 535 00:34:09,548 --> 00:34:11,283 * Caroline! * 536 00:34:14,686 --> 00:34:16,168 Twelve midnight tonight, Steve Young along 537 00:34:16,188 --> 00:34:18,023 on The Curly-Headed Kid Show until 3 a.m. 538 00:34:18,090 --> 00:34:21,026 * Got a feeling inside * * Can't explain * 539 00:34:21,093 --> 00:34:25,063 Radio Caroline was the first of the pirate radio stations. 540 00:34:25,131 --> 00:34:27,833 'Cause radio was controlled in England by the BBC. 541 00:34:27,899 --> 00:34:31,237 And suddenly these ships out of England jurisdiction 542 00:34:31,303 --> 00:34:33,305 started to pump the music out into England, 543 00:34:33,372 --> 00:34:35,641 and it took off like a rocket. 544 00:34:35,707 --> 00:34:38,444 The truth is, without pirate radio, 545 00:34:38,510 --> 00:34:41,880 the English invasion and all that pop scene would not have happened. 546 00:34:41,947 --> 00:34:44,650 * Can't explain I think it's love * 547 00:34:44,716 --> 00:34:48,287 * Try to say it to you When I feel blue * 548 00:34:48,354 --> 00:34:50,389 * But I can't explain * 549 00:34:50,456 --> 00:34:53,359 Released January 15, 1965, 550 00:34:53,425 --> 00:34:55,827 "I Can't Explain" would climb to number eight 551 00:34:55,894 --> 00:34:58,797 on the New Musical Express chart. 552 00:34:58,864 --> 00:35:01,367 I was driving over Hammersmith flyover 553 00:35:01,433 --> 00:35:03,535 and heard "Can't Explain" on the radio 554 00:35:03,602 --> 00:35:05,804 and thought, "Wow," you know. 555 00:35:05,871 --> 00:35:08,907 "I've got a commission, I've got a patron. This is art." 556 00:35:08,974 --> 00:35:13,912 Brunswick Records sold 104,000 copies of the single. 557 00:35:13,979 --> 00:35:16,715 The boys made £250 each. 558 00:35:16,782 --> 00:35:19,518 * Said I can't explain * 559 00:35:34,766 --> 00:35:38,404 It was chaos, 'cause we were smashing up all this equipment, and I had no money. 560 00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:42,441 I used to take all Pete's guitars and in between a show, putting 'em together. 561 00:35:42,508 --> 00:35:44,243 While one was being glued, 562 00:35:44,310 --> 00:35:46,912 the other one would be all set from the day before. 563 00:35:46,978 --> 00:35:49,348 And the main thing was keep the band working. 564 00:35:51,417 --> 00:35:54,353 - * I can go any way * - * Without you * 565 00:35:54,420 --> 00:35:57,256 - * I can live anyhow * - * Without you * 566 00:35:57,323 --> 00:35:59,090 * I can go anywhere * 567 00:35:59,157 --> 00:36:02,994 In those days, it wasn't uncommon for us to do a show at 8:00 till 9:00, 568 00:36:03,061 --> 00:36:06,131 travel 150 miles, 569 00:36:06,198 --> 00:36:08,734 and then do another show at midnight till 1:00. 570 00:36:12,471 --> 00:36:14,406 We used to take amphetamines. 571 00:36:14,473 --> 00:36:17,409 I discovered that taking amphetamines didn't go with being a good singer. 572 00:36:17,476 --> 00:36:19,945 * Oh, C * 573 00:36:20,011 --> 00:36:22,681 * C.C. Rider * 574 00:36:22,748 --> 00:36:26,652 * See what you have done now * 575 00:36:26,718 --> 00:36:29,621 They pilled up like no tomorrow, 576 00:36:29,688 --> 00:36:33,058 and their playing became just a noise. 577 00:36:36,194 --> 00:36:38,264 Tempos went out the window, 578 00:36:38,330 --> 00:36:40,165 volumes went out the window. 579 00:36:40,232 --> 00:36:44,936 And everything we worked to be good at 580 00:36:45,003 --> 00:36:48,106 suddenly disappeared out the window due to amphetamines. 581 00:36:51,477 --> 00:36:53,679 So it all came to a head at one show 582 00:36:53,745 --> 00:36:57,749 where I just gave up onstage, left the stage. 583 00:36:57,816 --> 00:37:00,819 Went back to the dressing room, got the bag of amphetamines. 584 00:37:00,886 --> 00:37:03,555 I mean, these guys. Flushed 'em down the toilet. 585 00:37:05,557 --> 00:37:10,028 Moon went up like a rocket and hit me with a tambourine. 586 00:37:10,095 --> 00:37:13,599 I laid into Moonie and ended up in a real good punch-up. 587 00:37:13,665 --> 00:37:15,801 The roadies pulled us apart, of course. 588 00:37:15,867 --> 00:37:18,136 But the damage had been done. 589 00:37:24,743 --> 00:37:27,879 Basically, I was thrown out the band. 590 00:37:27,946 --> 00:37:29,948 At that moment, I didn't give a fuck, 591 00:37:30,015 --> 00:37:32,083 'cause if that was gonna be the band 592 00:37:32,150 --> 00:37:35,854 as they had been on amphetamines, it wasn't worth being in anyway. 593 00:37:40,726 --> 00:37:43,895 He had been this sort of tough guy, boss of the group. 594 00:37:43,962 --> 00:37:47,666 Roger puts this band together and then finds the three dwarfs 595 00:37:47,733 --> 00:37:51,102 that he's brought in to support him suddenly sort of leaving him behind. 596 00:37:53,739 --> 00:37:56,608 It was the first time in my life that I realized that 597 00:37:56,675 --> 00:37:59,010 I loved something else other than myself. 598 00:37:59,077 --> 00:38:01,780 And I thought, if I'm being thrown out for being like I was, 599 00:38:01,847 --> 00:38:05,384 then I'll have to change, because the band is more important to me than anything. 600 00:38:05,451 --> 00:38:08,186 After about four weeks, they came back and said, 601 00:38:08,253 --> 00:38:13,058 "Look, you're back in the band, but you're on probation. 602 00:38:13,124 --> 00:38:15,126 And, uh, 603 00:38:15,193 --> 00:38:18,464 one more outburst like that, and you're out." 604 00:38:20,298 --> 00:38:23,535 Where's the place, Kit? I have absolutely no idea. 605 00:38:23,602 --> 00:38:25,170 They're going to find it. 606 00:38:27,706 --> 00:38:30,409 Four weeks after the blow-up in Copenhagen, 607 00:38:30,476 --> 00:38:34,446 The Who returned to the studio to record Pete's latest creation. 608 00:38:34,513 --> 00:38:36,382 When you're a kid and you, 609 00:38:36,448 --> 00:38:39,451 and you pick up a guitar for the first time, you know, 610 00:38:39,518 --> 00:38:41,420 you just want to make that sound. 611 00:38:50,929 --> 00:38:53,298 * People try to put us d-down * 612 00:38:53,365 --> 00:38:55,567 * Talking 'bout my generation * 613 00:38:55,634 --> 00:38:58,404 * Just because we get around * 614 00:38:58,470 --> 00:39:00,606 * Talking 'bout my generation * 615 00:39:00,672 --> 00:39:02,908 "My Generation" was the song 616 00:39:02,974 --> 00:39:05,844 that I felt an immediate sort of thing for. 617 00:39:05,911 --> 00:39:08,113 * I hope I die Before I get old * 618 00:39:08,179 --> 00:39:10,248 This had to be the essence of The Who. 619 00:39:10,315 --> 00:39:12,250 * This is my generation * 620 00:39:12,317 --> 00:39:15,854 * This is my generation, baby * 621 00:39:15,921 --> 00:39:18,657 I can remember the "My Generation" session very clearly, 622 00:39:18,724 --> 00:39:21,460 because it was so unusual, the fact that he stuttered on it. 623 00:39:21,527 --> 00:39:25,664 I mean, I thought that was absolutely brilliant. 624 00:39:25,731 --> 00:39:29,635 * I'm not tryin' to cause A big s-sensation * 625 00:39:29,701 --> 00:39:32,971 Roger's got a story about the stutter, and so has Chris Stamp. 626 00:39:33,038 --> 00:39:35,040 They're both well out of order. 627 00:39:35,106 --> 00:39:38,043 The stutter came from John Lee Hooker. 628 00:39:38,109 --> 00:39:40,178 It was to do with the pilled-up mod 629 00:39:40,245 --> 00:39:42,881 and the old blues stutter and so on. 630 00:39:42,948 --> 00:39:46,652 And when I put it on at the first demo, it was partly there. 631 00:39:46,718 --> 00:39:48,454 And Chris Stamp said, "What's that?" 632 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,456 And I said, "I'm stuttering." 633 00:39:50,522 --> 00:39:53,625 And I think maybe he didn't realize that I meant to stutter. 634 00:39:53,692 --> 00:39:56,562 I don't remember it being on the demo. It might have been. 635 00:39:56,628 --> 00:39:58,363 My memory's not that good on it. 636 00:39:58,430 --> 00:40:00,031 Does it... Does it really matter? 637 00:40:00,098 --> 00:40:02,267 * My generation * 638 00:40:02,333 --> 00:40:05,471 * This is my generation, baby * 639 00:40:08,907 --> 00:40:11,309 I marveled at that bass line. 640 00:40:12,711 --> 00:40:15,481 Very flashy, very effective and completely original. 641 00:40:15,547 --> 00:40:19,050 I don't know where it came from. 642 00:40:19,117 --> 00:40:20,852 It was fantastic. 643 00:40:24,022 --> 00:40:27,125 Amazing, the bass solo in "My Generation." 644 00:40:27,192 --> 00:40:30,272 If you could write that into words, that's what you'd have on your gravestone. 645 00:40:30,328 --> 00:40:33,031 * People try to put us d-down * 646 00:40:33,098 --> 00:40:35,501 * Talking 'bout my generation * 647 00:40:35,567 --> 00:40:37,903 * Just because We g-get around * 648 00:40:37,969 --> 00:40:40,438 * Talking 'bout my generation * 649 00:40:40,506 --> 00:40:43,575 We're talking about very, very early days here. 650 00:40:43,642 --> 00:40:46,545 I think back to those days, and I just... 651 00:40:46,612 --> 00:40:49,347 I think it was really painful. 652 00:40:49,414 --> 00:40:51,683 * This is my generation * 653 00:40:51,750 --> 00:40:56,087 We hadn't really respected the difficulties that Roger had. 654 00:40:56,154 --> 00:40:58,690 It's wrong for me to say this, but, you know... 655 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,995 Keith was a genius, John was a genius, 656 00:41:04,062 --> 00:41:06,765 I was certainly on the edge of it. 657 00:41:06,832 --> 00:41:10,569 You know, Roger was a singer. That was it. 658 00:41:10,636 --> 00:41:14,573 I just decided within myself 659 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,675 that I would never let them... 660 00:41:16,742 --> 00:41:20,278 whatever they did to me, whatever they did... 661 00:41:20,345 --> 00:41:23,715 I wouldn't ever react like that again to them. 662 00:41:23,782 --> 00:41:26,384 And I became a completely different guy, 663 00:41:26,451 --> 00:41:28,486 as far as that's concerned. 664 00:41:28,554 --> 00:41:30,455 * This is my generation * 665 00:41:30,522 --> 00:41:32,390 But I struggled more than anything 666 00:41:32,457 --> 00:41:35,226 to find a voice, a real voice for this band. 667 00:41:35,293 --> 00:41:38,263 * Talking 'bout my generation * * This is my generation * 668 00:41:52,944 --> 00:41:54,780 * I don't mind * 669 00:41:54,846 --> 00:41:58,216 * Other guys dancing With my girl * 670 00:41:59,818 --> 00:42:01,853 * That's fine * 671 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,724 * I know them all Pretty well * 672 00:42:07,025 --> 00:42:09,327 * But I know sometimes * 673 00:42:09,394 --> 00:42:13,899 * I must get out in the light * 674 00:42:13,965 --> 00:42:16,968 * Better leave her behind * 675 00:42:17,035 --> 00:42:20,471 * With the kids They're alright * 676 00:42:20,538 --> 00:42:23,875 * The kids are alright * 677 00:42:27,545 --> 00:42:31,316 Our ambitions in those days were very, very simple... to be rich and famous. 678 00:42:31,382 --> 00:42:33,384 We made no excuses for it. 679 00:42:33,451 --> 00:42:36,454 We just got out of having our ass hanging out of our trousers. 680 00:42:36,521 --> 00:42:39,190 I don't make any apologies for wanting to be rich and famous. 681 00:42:39,257 --> 00:42:41,793 Thank you very much. 682 00:42:41,860 --> 00:42:46,364 * I was born with A plastic spoon in my mouth * 683 00:42:47,633 --> 00:42:49,701 * The north side of my town Faced east * 684 00:42:49,768 --> 00:42:53,204 * And the east Was facing south * 685 00:42:53,271 --> 00:42:55,140 The Who played 60 shows 686 00:42:55,206 --> 00:42:58,109 through the first 90 days of 1966. 687 00:42:58,176 --> 00:43:01,012 And we have got for you the most controversial group in England! 688 00:43:01,079 --> 00:43:03,348 - Ladies and gentlemen, The Who! - The Who! 689 00:43:03,414 --> 00:43:04,916 - The Who! - Les Who! 690 00:43:04,983 --> 00:43:07,418 The Who! - The Who! - The Who! 691 00:43:07,485 --> 00:43:11,356 * One girl was called Jean Marie * 692 00:43:11,422 --> 00:43:13,892 * Another little girl Was called Felicity * 693 00:43:13,959 --> 00:43:16,762 It used to feel to me that the band was doomed. 694 00:43:16,828 --> 00:43:21,667 You know, I'm going off with this fucking horrible band of yobboes, 695 00:43:21,733 --> 00:43:24,435 you know, to Germany and to Sweden and to... 696 00:43:24,502 --> 00:43:27,238 and with people with whom I had absolutely 697 00:43:27,305 --> 00:43:30,942 nothing in common whatsoever... nothing. 698 00:43:31,009 --> 00:43:33,078 They were at each other a lot. 699 00:43:33,144 --> 00:43:35,346 The Who was built on competition. 700 00:43:35,413 --> 00:43:39,350 The competition was horrendous on and off the stage. 701 00:43:39,417 --> 00:43:43,855 Then it got great, because it became wonderfully sort of on edge because of that. 702 00:43:43,922 --> 00:43:47,625 You could be watching The Who in that '66-'67 period when they were gigging, 703 00:43:47,693 --> 00:43:50,762 and in the middle of a show, suddenly Pete would get the guitar 704 00:43:50,829 --> 00:43:53,064 and whack it around Roger's head... It was fantastic. 705 00:43:53,131 --> 00:43:56,534 Everyone was really on edge watching them all the time, you know. 706 00:43:59,370 --> 00:44:03,041 * I want to play cricket On the green * 707 00:44:03,108 --> 00:44:06,611 * Ride my bike Across the street * 708 00:44:06,678 --> 00:44:10,448 * Cut myself and see my blood * 709 00:44:10,515 --> 00:44:15,053 * I want to come home All covered in mud * 710 00:44:18,289 --> 00:44:21,559 * I'm a boy, I'm a boy But my mom won't admit it * 711 00:44:21,626 --> 00:44:24,963 * I'm a boy, I'm a boy I'm a boy * 712 00:44:25,030 --> 00:44:27,510 Roger talks now very romantically about those days, 713 00:44:27,565 --> 00:44:29,367 like it was some kind of magic. 714 00:44:29,434 --> 00:44:33,038 I don't think there was a lot of magic. What there was was a lot of brute force. 715 00:44:33,104 --> 00:44:36,607 * I'm a boy * 716 00:44:36,674 --> 00:44:38,543 Nobody knew what they were doing. 717 00:44:38,609 --> 00:44:40,746 Those bands were managed by kids. 718 00:44:40,812 --> 00:44:43,581 They didn't have a fuckin' clue what they were doing either. 719 00:44:46,051 --> 00:44:48,619 In March of '66, The Who and their management 720 00:44:48,686 --> 00:44:51,757 broke their contract with producer Shel Talmy 721 00:44:51,823 --> 00:44:54,159 and began making their own records. 722 00:44:54,225 --> 00:44:56,194 Very early on, Kit and I realized 723 00:44:56,261 --> 00:44:58,897 that if we weren't in control of the recording 724 00:44:58,964 --> 00:45:01,099 and how it went and what happened, 725 00:45:01,166 --> 00:45:02,734 it would just be hopeless. 726 00:45:02,801 --> 00:45:04,669 We would lose this gigantic piece 727 00:45:04,736 --> 00:45:07,238 of what the destiny of the group was. 728 00:45:07,305 --> 00:45:09,808 And so we had to get out of that contract. 729 00:45:13,111 --> 00:45:17,082 Lambert and Stamp started their own company, Track Records. 730 00:45:17,148 --> 00:45:18,950 I was like the executive producer. 731 00:45:19,017 --> 00:45:21,452 Kit was the overall sort of musical director. 732 00:45:21,519 --> 00:45:23,488 Day to day, right, in the studio. 733 00:45:27,492 --> 00:45:30,195 * I used to wake up In the morning * 734 00:45:31,296 --> 00:45:33,799 * I used to feel so bad * 735 00:45:33,865 --> 00:45:35,801 Kit Lambert... he had great ideas, 736 00:45:35,867 --> 00:45:37,587 but he wasn't really technically very good. 737 00:45:37,635 --> 00:45:39,905 Kit was the ultimate 738 00:45:39,971 --> 00:45:42,640 Barnum & Bailey con man in a lot of ways. 739 00:45:42,707 --> 00:45:45,243 He would bluster his way through things, you know. 740 00:45:45,310 --> 00:45:48,346 He had a lot of front and courage in that way. 741 00:45:48,413 --> 00:45:51,850 Big fucking pain in the ass, you know, in the studio. 742 00:45:51,917 --> 00:45:53,785 But he made it fun. 743 00:45:53,852 --> 00:45:57,522 * Pictures of Lily * I can do it if... you know, once I get used to sort of... 744 00:45:57,588 --> 00:45:58,990 Just do it with confidence. 745 00:45:59,057 --> 00:46:00,691 Just hit it, do you know? 746 00:46:00,758 --> 00:46:03,361 Keith, when you hit the very high note, back off a bit 747 00:46:03,428 --> 00:46:05,977 because you're really piercing because of the height of the thing. 748 00:46:05,997 --> 00:46:07,799 So you keep jumping on John's... 749 00:46:07,866 --> 00:46:09,600 John's usually louder 750 00:46:09,667 --> 00:46:11,669 than everyone else anyway, you know. 751 00:46:11,736 --> 00:46:14,772 And if anyone needs backing up, it's sort of me, you know. 752 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,809 You'll cut through everything anyway on that note. 753 00:46:26,051 --> 00:46:28,786 Oh! Oh! 754 00:46:36,527 --> 00:46:39,030 Kit Lambert's father, Constant Lambert, 755 00:46:39,097 --> 00:46:40,866 created the Royal Ballet. 756 00:46:40,932 --> 00:46:42,667 Created the Royal Ballet. 757 00:46:42,733 --> 00:46:45,470 Kit had gone into film because he didn't want to be 758 00:46:45,536 --> 00:46:47,272 anything to do with music. 759 00:46:47,338 --> 00:46:49,707 And suddenly, you know, life rips him back in 760 00:46:49,774 --> 00:46:52,510 right in the middle of music, only a different type. 761 00:46:52,577 --> 00:46:57,415 * And I ask you, hey, mister Have you ever seen * 762 00:46:57,482 --> 00:47:00,485 * Pictures of Lily? * 763 00:47:00,551 --> 00:47:04,155 I would say to Kit, "I really want to write a fuckin' opera. 764 00:47:04,222 --> 00:47:06,724 I don't want to write rock songs all the time." 765 00:47:06,791 --> 00:47:09,727 he constantly encouraged me on the basis of his background. 766 00:47:09,794 --> 00:47:12,964 * Her man's been gone * 767 00:47:13,031 --> 00:47:15,800 * For nearly a year * 768 00:47:15,867 --> 00:47:18,269 * He was due home yesterday * 769 00:47:18,336 --> 00:47:20,939 * But he ain't here * 770 00:47:21,006 --> 00:47:24,475 It was called a mini-opera, "A Quick One While He's Away," 771 00:47:24,542 --> 00:47:27,445 which is an English way of saying, you know, 772 00:47:27,512 --> 00:47:30,048 you have a quick fuck while the husband's away, right? 773 00:47:30,115 --> 00:47:32,283 Do you know what I mean? That was the story. 774 00:47:32,350 --> 00:47:36,621 * Down your street, your crying Is a well-known sound * 775 00:47:37,923 --> 00:47:40,258 It was a big operatic piece 776 00:47:40,325 --> 00:47:42,894 told in these sort of six or seven 777 00:47:42,961 --> 00:47:44,896 one-minute or two-minute pieces of song. 778 00:47:44,963 --> 00:47:49,000 * We have a remedy You'll appreciate * 779 00:47:49,067 --> 00:47:53,104 * No need to be so sad He's only late * 780 00:47:53,171 --> 00:47:56,474 Kit kept saying to me, "My father, Constant Lambert, would've loved The Who." 781 00:47:56,541 --> 00:48:00,078 So he was very supportive, and that's how that grew. 782 00:48:00,145 --> 00:48:02,280 Probably the most important relationship 783 00:48:02,347 --> 00:48:05,183 that Kit and Pete had was each other. 784 00:48:07,718 --> 00:48:10,588 * You are forgiven * 785 00:48:10,655 --> 00:48:13,858 During the recording session for A Quick One, 786 00:48:13,925 --> 00:48:16,727 Lambert introduced the band to one of the first artists 787 00:48:16,794 --> 00:48:19,530 signed by the new Track Records. 788 00:48:19,597 --> 00:48:22,267 He came to the studio before he became 789 00:48:22,333 --> 00:48:24,469 the legendary Jimi Hendrix, 790 00:48:24,535 --> 00:48:26,804 and he was just a guitarist in a soul band. 791 00:48:26,871 --> 00:48:30,841 * Forgiven, forgiven * 792 00:48:30,908 --> 00:48:32,377 You're forgiven. 793 00:48:41,919 --> 00:48:44,655 * Run, run, run * 794 00:48:44,722 --> 00:48:46,924 * Run, run, run * 795 00:48:46,992 --> 00:48:49,074 We'd always been looking at the United States, 796 00:48:49,094 --> 00:48:51,963 because that was sort of like the home 797 00:48:52,030 --> 00:48:53,898 of the music that we loved. 798 00:48:53,965 --> 00:48:57,102 They just wanted to crack America, and just toured and toured and toured. 799 00:48:57,168 --> 00:49:01,106 The Who were a brand that represented Britishness 800 00:49:01,172 --> 00:49:03,508 and everything that London stood for. 801 00:49:03,574 --> 00:49:07,378 They wore it on their backs for their British invasion. 802 00:49:07,445 --> 00:49:10,348 * You better run, run, run * 803 00:49:10,415 --> 00:49:12,650 * Run, run, run * 804 00:49:12,717 --> 00:49:16,287 We couldn't just come over here and make a couple of hit tunes, like pop hits. 805 00:49:16,354 --> 00:49:19,557 If they took The Who, they had to take the whole package. 806 00:49:21,259 --> 00:49:23,861 In March of 1967, 807 00:49:23,928 --> 00:49:27,165 they played a nine-day showcase in New York City. 808 00:49:27,232 --> 00:49:31,402 Three months later, they went with their new label-mate to Monterey, California. 809 00:49:34,005 --> 00:49:36,874 * If you're going * 810 00:49:36,941 --> 00:49:40,611 * To San Francisco * 811 00:49:40,678 --> 00:49:43,114 Monterey was a big one for us. 812 00:49:43,181 --> 00:49:46,451 Before we even got to Monterey, Monterey was built up 813 00:49:46,517 --> 00:49:49,854 in my imagination as an enormous event. 814 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:54,225 Worst thing about Monterey was we found out from one of our ex-roadies 815 00:49:54,292 --> 00:49:56,661 that Hendrix was gonna steal our act. 816 00:49:56,727 --> 00:49:59,764 Jimi was out of his brain on acid 817 00:49:59,830 --> 00:50:02,767 and wouldn't discuss who would go on first. 818 00:50:02,833 --> 00:50:04,902 It wasn't that we didn't want to follow him. 819 00:50:04,969 --> 00:50:07,472 We just wanted to get our act, you know, done first. 820 00:50:07,538 --> 00:50:09,474 We were kind of choked up 821 00:50:09,540 --> 00:50:12,310 because we were in debt because we smashed our guitars, 822 00:50:12,377 --> 00:50:15,313 and then suddenly someone was gonna come along from nowhere 823 00:50:15,380 --> 00:50:17,248 and steal it in front of all those people. 824 00:50:17,315 --> 00:50:19,517 I'd like to introduce you to an act 825 00:50:19,584 --> 00:50:23,054 who have been passed by slightly in America, but they won't be after this. 826 00:50:23,121 --> 00:50:25,090 This is The Who, this one. 827 00:50:32,163 --> 00:50:36,601 -* People try to put us down * -* Talking 'bout my generation * 828 00:50:36,667 --> 00:50:38,803 They played with kind of a sense of abandon 829 00:50:38,869 --> 00:50:41,706 in a way it hadn't been done before. 830 00:50:41,772 --> 00:50:44,442 I mean, the absolute abandon. 831 00:50:44,509 --> 00:50:47,778 * Yeah, I hope I die Before I get old * 832 00:50:47,845 --> 00:50:50,381 It was a sort of exorcism. 833 00:50:50,448 --> 00:50:53,184 The performance just went off into 834 00:50:53,251 --> 00:50:56,554 a kind of emotional meltdown, in a sense, 835 00:50:56,621 --> 00:50:58,923 which I don't think anyone had ever seen before. 836 00:51:19,277 --> 00:51:23,214 The visual was a ritualistic slaughter of a guitar, 837 00:51:23,281 --> 00:51:26,217 but the sound of that slaughter was fuckin' brilliant. 838 00:51:49,307 --> 00:51:52,143 It was the best jazz. It was the best rock and roll. 839 00:51:52,210 --> 00:51:54,712 It was something like no one had ever done before. 840 00:51:54,779 --> 00:51:57,014 And I still love it to this day. 841 00:52:11,028 --> 00:52:13,798 We made the house stand up and roar and scream and shout. 842 00:52:13,864 --> 00:52:15,466 It's the first time they'd ever seen it. 843 00:52:15,533 --> 00:52:17,373 They'd heard about it but never seen it happen. 844 00:52:17,435 --> 00:52:20,971 And then Hendrix came on, played fairly well 845 00:52:21,038 --> 00:52:24,442 and set his guitar alight, slung it in the air and did it all again. 846 00:52:24,509 --> 00:52:28,546 And this time the crowd got up with the same kind of roar, but slightly mystified... 847 00:52:28,613 --> 00:52:30,915 "Now, what's going on here?" you know. 848 00:52:43,728 --> 00:52:46,864 After Monterey Pop, I became very 849 00:52:46,931 --> 00:52:48,966 disturbed about acid. 850 00:52:50,868 --> 00:52:55,139 Coming back from Monterey, on the plane, he had a really bad trip 851 00:52:55,206 --> 00:52:59,377 and vowed he wouldn't take any more psychedelic drugs after that. 852 00:53:02,012 --> 00:53:05,149 I just started to get really sickened by LSD 853 00:53:05,216 --> 00:53:08,185 and acid and by psychedelia and... 854 00:53:08,253 --> 00:53:10,555 But I'd also been inspired by it. 855 00:53:10,621 --> 00:53:12,390 There was no question I'd been inspired. 856 00:53:12,457 --> 00:53:14,292 So I was confused by it. 857 00:53:16,461 --> 00:53:19,597 Within about two months of that, he was into Meher Baba. 858 00:53:29,307 --> 00:53:31,976 I found him through a man called Mike McInnerney. 859 00:53:32,042 --> 00:53:34,412 I was talking to Pete about it. 860 00:53:34,479 --> 00:53:38,082 I think Pete, like every other rock-and-roll star, was, um, 861 00:53:38,148 --> 00:53:40,485 was not having a good time sometimes. 862 00:53:42,219 --> 00:53:44,422 He gave me a book called The God-Man 863 00:53:44,489 --> 00:53:47,458 about this guy called Meher Baba. 864 00:53:47,525 --> 00:53:51,262 He was a Persian born in India who took a vow of silence 865 00:53:51,329 --> 00:53:53,398 and kept it for most of his life. 866 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,703 True believers called him an Avatar, god on Earth. 867 00:53:58,769 --> 00:54:02,106 The very simple thing that Baba asked you to do was to love him. 868 00:54:02,172 --> 00:54:06,010 There's a difficulty there for a start when you're in rock and roll. 869 00:54:06,076 --> 00:54:09,780 You're a performer and you're having to do all the stuff that Pete's having to do, 870 00:54:09,847 --> 00:54:13,551 and yet he chooses to try and to make a spiritual journey at the same time. 871 00:54:14,852 --> 00:54:17,488 The year Pete wrote "I Can't Explain," 872 00:54:17,555 --> 00:54:21,426 Meher Baba warned against searching for god in a pill. 873 00:54:21,492 --> 00:54:24,695 To the sincere seeker after truth, 874 00:54:24,762 --> 00:54:28,499 experimentation with drugs may well open doors, 875 00:54:28,566 --> 00:54:31,235 but continued use will lead to madness, 876 00:54:31,302 --> 00:54:33,638 death and insanity. 877 00:54:34,872 --> 00:54:38,275 And, you know, from what I've seen, 878 00:54:38,343 --> 00:54:40,778 there are very, very, very few exceptions. 879 00:54:52,757 --> 00:54:55,292 We were booked on a tour, bottom of the bill, 880 00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,795 with Herman's Hermits. 881 00:54:57,862 --> 00:55:00,798 You can imagine Herman's Hermits' audience 882 00:55:00,865 --> 00:55:03,434 was sort of 13-year-old middle-class girls. 883 00:55:03,501 --> 00:55:06,804 They were introduced to their first piece of danger. 884 00:55:06,871 --> 00:55:09,640 * I want the magic bus * 885 00:55:09,707 --> 00:55:11,509 * I want the magic bus * 886 00:55:11,576 --> 00:55:13,944 They just ran. They just... 887 00:55:14,011 --> 00:55:17,014 They ran to the back of the hall until Herman came on. 888 00:55:17,081 --> 00:55:19,350 * Too much The magic bus * 889 00:55:19,417 --> 00:55:22,587 In Georgia, Moonie discovered firework stands. 890 00:55:24,121 --> 00:55:27,224 And in Michigan, he celebrated his 21st birthday. 891 00:55:43,408 --> 00:55:46,511 I do remember a car did end up in a swimming pool. 892 00:55:46,577 --> 00:55:48,779 I don't know whether it was a Lincoln Continental, 893 00:55:48,846 --> 00:55:52,216 but a car did end up in the swimming pool, and there was a lot of carnage. 894 00:55:52,282 --> 00:55:54,118 However much of that is true, you don't know. 895 00:55:54,184 --> 00:55:56,086 I want it all to be true. You know. 896 00:55:56,153 --> 00:55:59,524 You want to think that he drove his Rolls-Royce into a swimming pool. 897 00:55:59,590 --> 00:56:01,426 It was Keith Moon, for crying out loud. 898 00:56:01,492 --> 00:56:04,762 The truth is several cars were damaged 899 00:56:04,829 --> 00:56:06,731 as well as several rooms in the hotel. 900 00:56:06,797 --> 00:56:09,133 Moonie chipped a tooth running from the law, 901 00:56:09,199 --> 00:56:13,103 and The Who was banned from Holiday Inns for life. 902 00:56:13,170 --> 00:56:16,474 And over here, the guy who plays the sloppy drums. 903 00:56:16,541 --> 00:56:19,243 Follow the Yellow Brick Road. What's your name? 904 00:56:19,309 --> 00:56:20,611 Keith. Keith? 905 00:56:20,678 --> 00:56:23,380 My friends call me Keith. You can call me John. 906 00:56:23,448 --> 00:56:25,249 What's the next song you're gonna do? 907 00:56:25,315 --> 00:56:27,685 "My Generation." 908 00:56:27,752 --> 00:56:28,986 Your generation? Yeah. 909 00:56:29,053 --> 00:56:30,488 I can really identify with that, 910 00:56:30,555 --> 00:56:32,537 because I really identify with these guys, I dig 'em. 911 00:56:32,557 --> 00:56:34,659 And this is a... 912 00:56:36,226 --> 00:56:38,963 You know, you got sloppy stagehands around here. 913 00:56:43,267 --> 00:56:46,136 On the last gig of the trip, they smashed up their gear 914 00:56:46,203 --> 00:56:48,405 for the first time on American television. 915 00:56:52,342 --> 00:56:55,646 Keith bribed that sloppy stagehand to overstuff his drum 916 00:56:55,713 --> 00:56:57,948 with a dangerous amount of explosives. 917 00:57:06,957 --> 00:57:10,194 Moon managed to fulfill the outrageous part of the band, 918 00:57:10,260 --> 00:57:12,963 and we just let him get on with it, and he was outrageous. 919 00:57:13,030 --> 00:57:16,100 Ow! Aaah! 920 00:57:22,172 --> 00:57:24,274 Uh, are you done? 921 00:57:33,484 --> 00:57:37,087 * Happy Jack wasn't old But he was a man * 922 00:57:37,154 --> 00:57:39,524 I think obviously Pete wanted a bigger challenge 923 00:57:39,590 --> 00:57:41,592 than just the three-minute single, you know. 924 00:57:41,659 --> 00:57:44,595 And he wanted to write something much more complex 925 00:57:44,662 --> 00:57:46,497 and detailed and layered. 926 00:57:48,599 --> 00:57:52,570 In four years, The Who had released eight singles in the UK, 927 00:57:52,637 --> 00:57:54,639 all of them top ten hits. 928 00:57:54,705 --> 00:57:56,173 Singles drove the market. 929 00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,877 Once the single happened, you immediately went to an album. 930 00:57:59,944 --> 00:58:02,446 As much as we loved the three-minute single, 931 00:58:02,513 --> 00:58:05,616 the value was more than just a three-minute single, 932 00:58:05,683 --> 00:58:07,985 and it could add up to a lot more. 933 00:58:08,052 --> 00:58:10,621 In December 1967, 934 00:58:10,688 --> 00:58:13,257 The Who produced a piece of pop art. 935 00:58:13,323 --> 00:58:15,292 The only time I'd even approached 936 00:58:15,359 --> 00:58:17,595 my art-school training was in Who Sell Out. 937 00:58:17,662 --> 00:58:21,265 Doing commercials, writing songs about products and all of that kind of stuff. 938 00:58:23,267 --> 00:58:24,935 * Coca-Cola * 939 00:58:25,002 --> 00:58:28,338 * Things go better with Coke * 940 00:58:28,405 --> 00:58:31,609 Little bit about it, because it's a very unusual concept. 941 00:58:31,676 --> 00:58:34,111 We want the album to run very smoothly 942 00:58:34,178 --> 00:58:37,247 and perhaps have the atmosphere of a pirate radio station. 943 00:58:37,314 --> 00:58:40,685 So we've done a commercial for Jaguar cars, Heinz baked beans, 944 00:58:40,751 --> 00:58:43,520 and each one, funnily enough, has opened up 945 00:58:43,588 --> 00:58:45,990 a fairly unique opportunity musically 946 00:58:46,056 --> 00:58:48,759 which we wouldn't have got through our normal numbers. 947 00:58:48,826 --> 00:58:50,995 Keith will play one we did yesterday. 948 00:58:51,061 --> 00:58:53,731 Would you do that? It'd be very bold of you. 949 00:58:56,366 --> 00:58:58,836 Pete realized he was onto something. 950 00:58:58,903 --> 00:59:01,806 We knew the album was gonna be the new art form. 951 00:59:03,173 --> 00:59:06,911 Rock music changed the business in 1968. 952 00:59:06,977 --> 00:59:08,746 That year, for the first time, 953 00:59:08,813 --> 00:59:12,082 people bought more albums than singles. 954 00:59:12,149 --> 00:59:15,385 I used to say the '60s was like a renaissance almost. 955 00:59:15,452 --> 00:59:19,256 But the one art form or means of communication 956 00:59:19,323 --> 00:59:22,960 that was more important than all the others was popular music. 957 00:59:23,027 --> 00:59:25,930 * More music, more music More music, more music * 958 00:59:28,899 --> 00:59:32,069 The Who toured the UK, Europe, Australia. 959 00:59:32,136 --> 00:59:36,106 They went coast to coast across North America twice. 960 00:59:36,173 --> 00:59:38,208 * I know you've deceived me * 961 00:59:38,275 --> 00:59:40,978 * Now here's a surprise * 962 00:59:43,447 --> 00:59:45,082 * I know that you have * 963 00:59:45,149 --> 00:59:49,253 * 'Cause there's magic In my eyes * 964 00:59:49,319 --> 00:59:53,390 * I can see for miles And miles * 965 00:59:53,457 --> 00:59:56,927 * And miles and miles * 966 00:59:56,994 --> 00:59:59,897 * And miles * 967 01:00:01,031 --> 01:00:02,633 * Oh, yeah * 968 01:00:02,700 --> 01:00:04,802 We put out "I Can See For Miles," 969 01:00:04,869 --> 01:00:06,483 and it clearly wasn't gonna change the world, 970 01:00:06,503 --> 01:00:09,406 and it was the best possible thing I could ever write. 971 01:00:09,473 --> 01:00:12,109 So I just thought, well, what do we do now? We're fucked. 972 01:00:12,176 --> 01:00:15,445 * Here's a poke at you You're gonna choke on it too * 973 01:00:15,512 --> 01:00:17,614 * You're gonna lose that smile * 974 01:00:17,682 --> 01:00:20,550 * Because all the while * 975 01:00:20,617 --> 01:00:24,154 * I can see for miles And miles * 976 01:00:24,221 --> 01:00:27,491 * I can see for miles And miles * 977 01:00:27,557 --> 01:00:29,359 I went away, and I thought, 978 01:00:29,426 --> 01:00:31,628 "I have to save this band. I have to do it." 979 01:00:31,696 --> 01:00:34,298 Kit can't do it. Keith can't do it. Roger can't do it. 980 01:00:34,364 --> 01:00:36,066 I have to do it. 981 01:00:53,884 --> 01:00:56,520 Pete comes up with this idea 982 01:00:56,586 --> 01:00:59,690 of this deaf, dumb and blind boy. 983 01:00:59,757 --> 01:01:03,460 The only way he connects with life 984 01:01:03,527 --> 01:01:06,563 is he feels the vibes, right? 985 01:01:08,065 --> 01:01:11,802 The vibes are music, right? 986 01:01:11,869 --> 01:01:13,637 That was it. 987 01:01:13,704 --> 01:01:17,007 That was like... You know the screenplay written on the back of a cigarette packet? 988 01:01:17,074 --> 01:01:18,876 That's what Pete's idea was. 989 01:01:21,779 --> 01:01:25,049 It's a bit like an opera, but in actual fact, it's a rock opera. 990 01:01:25,115 --> 01:01:27,117 It's modern music as such. 991 01:01:27,184 --> 01:01:30,287 It's the story of Tommy, the deaf, dumb and blind boy, 992 01:01:30,354 --> 01:01:33,290 and his... his journey through 993 01:01:33,357 --> 01:01:35,492 to extreme high levels of consciousness, 994 01:01:35,559 --> 01:01:37,762 despite the fact that he's deaf, dumb and blind. 995 01:01:42,933 --> 01:01:44,735 * I'm free * 996 01:01:46,570 --> 01:01:49,306 * I'm free * 997 01:01:51,575 --> 01:01:54,979 * Freedom tastes * 998 01:01:55,045 --> 01:01:57,381 * Of reality * 999 01:01:57,447 --> 01:02:00,785 It's all part of reincarnation and, uh, 1000 01:02:00,851 --> 01:02:03,320 levels of consciousness and stuff like this. 1001 01:02:03,387 --> 01:02:05,222 Meher Baba stuff. 1002 01:02:05,289 --> 01:02:09,059 Baba might have provided spiritual glue which made sense of 1003 01:02:09,126 --> 01:02:11,261 the travails this character was going through, 1004 01:02:11,328 --> 01:02:13,530 and the symbolism, if you like. 1005 01:02:15,833 --> 01:02:19,603 If you think about the wound of all the sort of working-class war kids, 1006 01:02:19,669 --> 01:02:22,773 it's that we didn't have a voice, you know, we couldn't see. 1007 01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,075 We all had exactly the same experience. 1008 01:02:25,142 --> 01:02:27,477 When you went to Grandad and you said, 1009 01:02:27,544 --> 01:02:30,080 "What do you think made the fucking Germans do that?" 1010 01:02:30,147 --> 01:02:32,983 He'd go, "I don't want to fuckin' talk about it. 1011 01:02:33,050 --> 01:02:34,651 You know, fuck off." 1012 01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:38,889 * You didn't hear it You didn't see it * 1013 01:02:38,956 --> 01:02:42,126 * You won't say nothing To no one never in your life * 1014 01:02:42,192 --> 01:02:45,529 * You never heard it How absurd it all seems * 1015 01:02:45,595 --> 01:02:47,531 * Without any proof * 1016 01:02:47,597 --> 01:02:50,767 We had all these fucking lies we grew up with. 1017 01:02:50,835 --> 01:02:53,838 Tommy was so much rooted in my-my childhood story. 1018 01:02:55,405 --> 01:02:59,643 Recording began in the fall of '68 and lasted six months. 1019 01:03:03,547 --> 01:03:06,316 Pete at the time was writing a song a week. 1020 01:03:06,383 --> 01:03:09,987 And literally... or even a song the same evening 1021 01:03:10,054 --> 01:03:12,422 as we'd been in the studio in the afternoon. 1022 01:03:12,489 --> 01:03:16,093 He'd come in the next day and say, "Here's the next one and here's the next one." 1023 01:03:19,696 --> 01:03:24,168 That was when the ideas from the other guys in the band started to come in. 1024 01:03:24,234 --> 01:03:26,236 * I'm your wicked Uncle Ernie * 1025 01:03:26,303 --> 01:03:29,706 * Glad you can't see or hear me As I fiddle about * 1026 01:03:29,773 --> 01:03:31,909 * Fiddle about, fiddle about * 1027 01:03:31,976 --> 01:03:35,512 John Entwistle came up with two really very, very powerful songs 1028 01:03:35,579 --> 01:03:38,548 about abuse and bullying that I couldn't write myself 1029 01:03:38,615 --> 01:03:41,451 because of my own childhood tenderness on the subject. 1030 01:03:41,518 --> 01:03:45,222 * Down with the bedclothes Up with your nightshirt * 1031 01:03:45,289 --> 01:03:49,226 * Fiddle about Fiddle about, fiddle about * 1032 01:03:49,293 --> 01:03:51,261 His input shouldn't be underestimated. 1033 01:03:51,328 --> 01:03:54,664 I mean, the antagonists like Uncle Ernie, 1034 01:03:54,731 --> 01:03:57,134 who he initially is, and Cousin Kevin, 1035 01:03:57,201 --> 01:04:00,004 are just as important as the hero. 1036 01:04:00,070 --> 01:04:01,738 It gave the whole thing a balance. 1037 01:04:01,805 --> 01:04:04,574 Good morning, campers! * I'm your Uncle Ernie * 1038 01:04:04,641 --> 01:04:07,511 * And I welcome you to Tommy's Holiday Camp * 1039 01:04:09,046 --> 01:04:12,216 Keith Moon came up with the idea that the temple, 1040 01:04:12,282 --> 01:04:15,986 the bizarre church that I created, should actually be a British holiday camp. 1041 01:04:16,053 --> 01:04:19,589 * It is forever Ha-ha! 1042 01:04:19,656 --> 01:04:22,592 In that moment, all of the elements of it come together. 1043 01:04:26,230 --> 01:04:30,134 And instead of talking about the trouble that we'd created a couple of years ago, 1044 01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:33,370 we were talking about the project, about what we could do with it. 1045 01:04:33,437 --> 01:04:35,940 * You don't answer my call * 1046 01:04:36,006 --> 01:04:38,542 * With even a nod or a wink * 1047 01:04:38,608 --> 01:04:43,080 * But you gaze at Your own reflection All right * 1048 01:04:43,147 --> 01:04:45,249 * You don't seem to see me * 1049 01:04:45,315 --> 01:04:48,685 * But I think You can see yourself * 1050 01:04:48,752 --> 01:04:51,922 * How can the mirror Affect you? * 1051 01:04:55,592 --> 01:04:57,794 Can you explain in any kind of a way 1052 01:04:57,861 --> 01:05:00,130 what satisfaction you get from it? 1053 01:05:00,197 --> 01:05:02,032 Yeah. Sexual. 1054 01:05:03,500 --> 01:05:05,269 I've always liked balls, 1055 01:05:05,335 --> 01:05:10,040 and, uh, to see big, shiny, silver balls 1056 01:05:10,107 --> 01:05:12,509 runnin' round a playground like this, 1057 01:05:12,576 --> 01:05:15,845 I can get a certain amount of satisfaction 1058 01:05:15,912 --> 01:05:18,915 building up a score that's gonna knock everybody else into oblivion, 1059 01:05:18,983 --> 01:05:21,251 which, you know... which I do often. 1060 01:05:32,296 --> 01:05:34,698 They came up with this idea of introducing pinball 1061 01:05:34,764 --> 01:05:38,068 into this bizarre, strange story that was going all over the place. 1062 01:05:38,135 --> 01:05:41,505 * Ever since I was a young boy I played the silver ball * 1063 01:05:41,571 --> 01:05:43,640 * From Soho Down to Brighton * 1064 01:05:43,707 --> 01:05:45,775 * I must've played 'em all * 1065 01:05:45,842 --> 01:05:49,546 * But I ain't seen Nothin' like him In any amusement hall * 1066 01:05:49,613 --> 01:05:53,817 * That deaf, dumb and blind kid Sure plays a mean pinball * 1067 01:05:53,883 --> 01:05:56,220 Pete said, "I thought it was rubbish. 1068 01:05:56,286 --> 01:05:58,555 I didn't know whether I should bother finishing it." 1069 01:05:58,622 --> 01:06:02,259 And he played it and everyone went quiet until someone said, "That's the number one." 1070 01:06:02,326 --> 01:06:05,162 And he went, "Aw," you know. He couldn't see that it was good. 1071 01:06:05,229 --> 01:06:09,366 * He's a pinball wizard There has to be a twist * 1072 01:06:09,433 --> 01:06:14,338 * A pinball wizard's Got such a supple wrist * 1073 01:06:14,404 --> 01:06:17,441 Roger suddenly decided that he would be Tommy. 1074 01:06:17,507 --> 01:06:19,676 I was supposed to sing Tommy. 1075 01:06:19,743 --> 01:06:21,578 He said, "Can I be Tommy?" 1076 01:06:21,645 --> 01:06:24,148 And I remember thinking, yeah. 1077 01:06:24,214 --> 01:06:26,450 * See me * 1078 01:06:28,885 --> 01:06:30,587 * Feel me * 1079 01:06:32,656 --> 01:06:34,358 * Touch me * 1080 01:06:36,793 --> 01:06:38,595 * Heal me * 1081 01:06:38,662 --> 01:06:41,931 It was only really though when we got onstage with Tommy 1082 01:06:41,998 --> 01:06:44,968 as a complete piece of music 1083 01:06:45,035 --> 01:06:48,472 that I really found my feet and found The Who voice. 1084 01:06:48,538 --> 01:06:50,274 * Touch me * 1085 01:06:52,476 --> 01:06:54,578 * Heal me * 1086 01:06:56,080 --> 01:07:00,150 Roger suddenly became this different kind of singer. 1087 01:07:00,217 --> 01:07:03,153 * Feel me * 1088 01:07:03,220 --> 01:07:05,855 He'd never had that quality that he now has, 1089 01:07:05,922 --> 01:07:09,059 which is of going up to the audience and engaging them 1090 01:07:09,126 --> 01:07:12,529 and opening his body to them, you know, and that kind of nakedness, 1091 01:07:12,596 --> 01:07:15,865 instead of being a really tight little kind of, "I'm a vicious mug. 1092 01:07:15,932 --> 01:07:17,834 Don't get in my way" kind of thing. 1093 01:07:17,901 --> 01:07:20,036 * Listening to you * 1094 01:07:20,104 --> 01:07:22,606 * I get the music * 1095 01:07:22,672 --> 01:07:25,041 * Gazing at you * 1096 01:07:25,109 --> 01:07:27,244 * I get the heat * 1097 01:07:27,311 --> 01:07:29,879 * Following you * 1098 01:07:29,946 --> 01:07:32,216 * I climb a mountain * 1099 01:07:32,282 --> 01:07:38,054 * I get excitement At your feet * 1100 01:07:38,122 --> 01:07:39,623 It was a role. 1101 01:07:39,689 --> 01:07:42,126 He actually lived each song as it went through. 1102 01:07:42,192 --> 01:07:46,396 * Got a feeling '21 Is gonna be a good year * 1103 01:07:47,831 --> 01:07:51,768 * Especially if you and me See it in together * 1104 01:07:53,470 --> 01:07:56,440 * So you think '21 Is gonna be a good year * 1105 01:07:56,506 --> 01:07:59,643 Rock and roll was still being seen on a very bad level. 1106 01:07:59,709 --> 01:08:02,149 The sound systems weren't good. You couldn't hear it properly. 1107 01:08:02,179 --> 01:08:04,481 So we thought, well, let's use opera houses. 1108 01:08:04,548 --> 01:08:08,118 * Have no reason to be Overoptimistic * 1109 01:08:08,185 --> 01:08:12,956 The group played Tommy truly as an opera, and it was, like, fantastic. 1110 01:08:13,022 --> 01:08:17,127 'Cause you had these ancient, beautiful acoustical places, right, 1111 01:08:17,194 --> 01:08:19,496 and this audience hearing their music 1112 01:08:19,563 --> 01:08:22,199 played this way for the first time. 1113 01:08:22,266 --> 01:08:24,534 After 18 months of touring, 1114 01:08:24,601 --> 01:08:26,903 The Who played one final opera house 1115 01:08:26,970 --> 01:08:29,506 in New York City... the Metropolitan. 1116 01:08:36,146 --> 01:08:37,861 They really didn't want us to go in there. 1117 01:08:37,881 --> 01:08:40,730 They really didn't want to put rock and roll in the Metropolitan Opera House. 1118 01:08:40,750 --> 01:08:43,287 The worst snobs turned out to be Americans. 1119 01:08:43,353 --> 01:08:46,089 We got in, and when we got in, 1120 01:08:46,156 --> 01:08:48,558 Decca Universal re-released Tommy. 1121 01:08:48,625 --> 01:08:51,328 It just sold again 1122 01:08:51,395 --> 01:08:53,730 like five times what it had sold the first time. 1123 01:08:53,797 --> 01:08:57,934 It became one of those huge albums. That was the printing-money era. 1124 01:08:58,001 --> 01:09:00,437 * Can you, can you hear me? * 1125 01:09:00,504 --> 01:09:06,510 * How can we be saved? * 1126 01:09:06,576 --> 01:09:08,878 Tommy was huge 1127 01:09:08,945 --> 01:09:11,581 and did take the band along on its coattails. 1128 01:09:11,648 --> 01:09:15,419 Tommy, in its own way, became as big as The Who. 1129 01:09:15,485 --> 01:09:17,887 * Waking up On Christmas morning * 1130 01:09:17,954 --> 01:09:21,425 * Hours before The winter sun's igniting * 1131 01:09:23,927 --> 01:09:26,162 * They believe in dreams And all they mean * 1132 01:09:26,230 --> 01:09:28,998 * Including heaven's Generosity * 1133 01:09:31,668 --> 01:09:35,004 * Peeping round the door to see What parcels are for free * 1134 01:09:35,071 --> 01:09:36,873 * In curiosity * 1135 01:09:39,175 --> 01:09:42,579 They were developing this high-powered sound for live gigs. 1136 01:09:42,646 --> 01:09:44,548 And it's absolutely incredible 1137 01:09:44,614 --> 01:09:47,784 that you could get that fantastic full, 1138 01:09:47,851 --> 01:09:50,186 rich, rock sound out of just a guitar, 1139 01:09:50,254 --> 01:09:52,088 a bass guitar and a drum. 1140 01:10:09,138 --> 01:10:13,176 * Listening to you I get the music * 1141 01:10:13,243 --> 01:10:16,713 * Gazing at you I get the heat * 1142 01:10:16,780 --> 01:10:18,515 * Following you * 1143 01:10:18,582 --> 01:10:21,718 * I climb the mountain * 1144 01:10:21,785 --> 01:10:25,289 * I get excitement At your feet * 1145 01:10:25,355 --> 01:10:26,990 Come on! 1146 01:10:27,056 --> 01:10:31,428 I started to feel accepted again in the band during Tommy. 1147 01:10:31,495 --> 01:10:35,832 Roger became Tommy, became this figure. Then it equalized. 1148 01:10:35,899 --> 01:10:38,468 And then we were unbelievably potent, 1149 01:10:38,535 --> 01:10:40,770 because we were balanced. 1150 01:10:40,837 --> 01:10:43,407 It was a marriage, but it was a good marriage. 1151 01:10:43,473 --> 01:10:45,609 Those were glorious years. 1152 01:10:45,675 --> 01:10:49,613 * Behind you I see the millions * 1153 01:10:49,679 --> 01:10:54,017 * From you, I see the glory * 1154 01:10:54,083 --> 01:10:57,754 * From you, I get opinions * 1155 01:10:57,821 --> 01:11:02,025 * From you, I get the story * 1156 01:11:37,527 --> 01:11:40,664 * No one knows what it's like * 1157 01:11:40,730 --> 01:11:43,099 * To be the bad man * 1158 01:11:44,534 --> 01:11:46,836 * To be the sad man * 1159 01:11:48,538 --> 01:11:50,974 * Behind blue eyes * 1160 01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:54,444 I think that Pete has always felt the pressure 1161 01:11:54,511 --> 01:11:58,014 of being the guy who came up with the ideas. 1162 01:11:58,081 --> 01:12:00,584 It was such a special gift that he had. 1163 01:12:00,650 --> 01:12:03,587 * No one knows what it's like * 1164 01:12:03,653 --> 01:12:05,922 * To be hated * 1165 01:12:07,424 --> 01:12:10,594 * To be fated * 1166 01:12:10,660 --> 01:12:13,229 * To telling only lies * 1167 01:12:13,296 --> 01:12:15,432 I went through terrible periods where 1168 01:12:15,499 --> 01:12:17,767 I would want to be getting closer to him, 1169 01:12:17,834 --> 01:12:21,204 but I had to push myself away because he was in a creative thing. 1170 01:12:21,270 --> 01:12:24,708 And you kind of felt that if you left him alone, it would be better. 1171 01:12:24,774 --> 01:12:28,211 But it must have been, for Pete, incredibly lonely. 1172 01:12:28,277 --> 01:12:30,394 It must've felt sometimes that we didn't give a fuck about him. 1173 01:12:30,414 --> 01:12:34,250 * I have hours * 1174 01:12:34,317 --> 01:12:36,219 * Only lonely * 1175 01:12:37,954 --> 01:12:40,223 * My love is vengeance * 1176 01:12:41,858 --> 01:12:44,594 * That's never free * 1177 01:12:46,095 --> 01:12:48,097 It took a terrible toll on him. 1178 01:12:48,164 --> 01:12:50,333 After Tommy, they said, "What are you gonna do next?" 1179 01:12:51,635 --> 01:12:53,369 In 1971, 1180 01:12:53,437 --> 01:12:56,172 Pete conceived the first interactive rock show. 1181 01:12:56,239 --> 01:12:58,742 He imagined fans connected to the band, 1182 01:12:58,808 --> 01:13:00,710 the music, the art. 1183 01:13:00,777 --> 01:13:03,580 The futuristic performance was to be filmed for a movie 1184 01:13:03,647 --> 01:13:06,049 and called Lifehouse. 1185 01:13:06,115 --> 01:13:09,018 The trouble is with Lifehouse 1186 01:13:09,085 --> 01:13:12,288 no one I've ever met, apart from Pete, ever understood it. 1187 01:13:12,355 --> 01:13:14,424 At the time, people just thought I was nuts. 1188 01:13:14,491 --> 01:13:16,960 Including his mentor. 1189 01:13:17,026 --> 01:13:20,830 Behind my back, Kit Lambert was telling everybody 1190 01:13:20,897 --> 01:13:23,066 that I was insane 1191 01:13:23,132 --> 01:13:26,703 and that what we were really doing was making a movie of Tommy, 1192 01:13:26,770 --> 01:13:28,672 and he was directing it. 1193 01:13:28,738 --> 01:13:30,807 Pete said, "I've had enough of that. 1194 01:13:30,874 --> 01:13:34,644 We're gonna be known just for Tommy. It's bigger than the band." 1195 01:13:34,711 --> 01:13:38,548 That was the point at which Kit just exploded the relationship. 1196 01:13:39,949 --> 01:13:43,186 * No one knows what it's like * 1197 01:13:43,252 --> 01:13:45,421 * To be the bad man * 1198 01:13:46,923 --> 01:13:49,392 * To be the sad man * 1199 01:13:51,094 --> 01:13:54,664 * Behind blue eyes * 1200 01:13:54,731 --> 01:13:57,901 In the spring of '71, Lifehouse was abandoned. 1201 01:14:03,607 --> 01:14:05,809 The songs for Lifehouse became the basis 1202 01:14:05,875 --> 01:14:09,045 of The Who's most successful album, Who's Next. 1203 01:14:10,747 --> 01:14:13,517 The opening track was an anthem named in part 1204 01:14:13,583 --> 01:14:16,653 for Pete's spiritual guide, Meher Baba. 1205 01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:18,722 The nerve of having something open 1206 01:14:18,788 --> 01:14:21,725 with that huge, long synthesizer intro, 1207 01:14:21,791 --> 01:14:24,961 which everyone in rock at the time said, "You can't have an intro like that, 1208 01:14:25,028 --> 01:14:26,863 because the radio won't play it." 1209 01:14:26,930 --> 01:14:29,866 He claims... Pete says that those riffs are that 1210 01:14:29,933 --> 01:14:34,103 he put Meher Baba's birth into the computer, and this is what came out. 1211 01:14:34,170 --> 01:14:37,073 "Yeah, yeah, I know you, Pete. Yeah, right." 1212 01:14:37,140 --> 01:14:38,775 You know. Like hell. 1213 01:14:47,551 --> 01:14:50,053 * Out here in the fields * 1214 01:14:52,188 --> 01:14:54,624 * I fight for my meals * 1215 01:14:56,059 --> 01:14:58,595 One of the first messages that received directly 1216 01:14:58,662 --> 01:15:01,531 from Meher Baba was that he recognized me. 1217 01:15:01,598 --> 01:15:03,366 That I was one of his, as it were. 1218 01:15:03,432 --> 01:15:05,935 And he died two years later, so I never met him. 1219 01:15:08,437 --> 01:15:10,640 * Don't cry * 1220 01:15:12,141 --> 01:15:15,378 * Don't raise your eye * 1221 01:15:16,512 --> 01:15:23,086 * It's only teenage wasteland * 1222 01:15:25,421 --> 01:15:27,456 * Sally, take my hand * 1223 01:15:29,358 --> 01:15:31,895 * We'll travel south 'Cross land * 1224 01:15:32,762 --> 01:15:35,198 * Put out the fire * 1225 01:15:35,264 --> 01:15:38,101 * And don't look past My shoulder * 1226 01:15:41,404 --> 01:15:43,640 Following the tour for Who's Next, 1227 01:15:43,707 --> 01:15:46,743 Pete went to India to visit the tomb of his spiritual guide. 1228 01:15:46,810 --> 01:15:49,545 "Beloved Baba sends his love to you. 1229 01:15:49,613 --> 01:15:52,582 He is always with you, in you and near you, 1230 01:15:52,649 --> 01:15:56,185 and he says, be happy and not to worry." 1231 01:15:56,252 --> 01:15:59,255 In a sense, I was engaged in some kind of sabotage. 1232 01:15:59,322 --> 01:16:03,159 I was inside this very, very macho group that smashed its guitars 1233 01:16:03,226 --> 01:16:06,562 and had a reputation for being quite rebellious, 1234 01:16:06,630 --> 01:16:10,199 trying to spread this message of love and peace. 1235 01:16:31,788 --> 01:16:33,957 * I went back to the doctor * 1236 01:16:34,023 --> 01:16:36,893 * To get another shrink * 1237 01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:40,363 * I sit and tell him About my weekend * 1238 01:16:40,429 --> 01:16:44,500 * But he never betrays What he thinks, whoo * 1239 01:16:44,567 --> 01:16:47,236 * Can you see the real me * 1240 01:16:47,303 --> 01:16:50,339 * Doctor, Doctor? * 1241 01:16:50,406 --> 01:16:54,978 * Can you see The real me, Doctor? * 1242 01:16:55,979 --> 01:16:58,481 * Whoa, Doctor * 1243 01:17:00,549 --> 01:17:05,088 In 1973, Pete crafted a second rock opera. 1244 01:17:05,154 --> 01:17:07,390 Quadrophenia was set against the rumble 1245 01:17:07,456 --> 01:17:09,525 of the mods and rockers. 1246 01:17:09,592 --> 01:17:12,628 * She said "I know how it feels, Son * 1247 01:17:12,696 --> 01:17:15,765 * 'Cause it runs In the family" * 1248 01:17:15,832 --> 01:17:18,401 I wanted Kit to be a part of Quadrophenia, 1249 01:17:18,467 --> 01:17:20,369 even though it was done and dusted. 1250 01:17:20,436 --> 01:17:23,506 Chris Stamp said, "He's in New York and he's got a bit of a problem. 1251 01:17:23,572 --> 01:17:25,074 He's become a heroin addict." 1252 01:17:25,141 --> 01:17:27,576 After Tommy, the drugs changed. 1253 01:17:27,643 --> 01:17:30,379 We'd lost a bit of our... our vision. 1254 01:17:30,446 --> 01:17:34,984 The dynamic of wealth introduced into this family 1255 01:17:35,051 --> 01:17:36,619 was what changed it. 1256 01:17:42,726 --> 01:17:45,895 Kit and Chris were fighting on a daily basis. 1257 01:17:45,962 --> 01:17:48,998 They began to fall apart as partners, 1258 01:17:49,065 --> 01:17:51,567 and they began to fall apart as people. 1259 01:17:51,634 --> 01:17:53,870 It was quite obvious that Kit was now 1260 01:17:53,937 --> 01:17:56,172 into quite heavy substances. 1261 01:17:56,239 --> 01:17:58,141 And money was going missing. 1262 01:17:58,207 --> 01:18:00,509 It wasn't a matter of they were trying to screw us. 1263 01:18:00,576 --> 01:18:02,812 They were just completely out of control. 1264 01:18:02,879 --> 01:18:04,680 We became the problem, right? 1265 01:18:04,748 --> 01:18:07,583 So if we were to go, the problem would resolve itself. 1266 01:18:07,650 --> 01:18:11,254 Now, I've never understood that. 1267 01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:14,157 Because although we may have been fucked up, 1268 01:18:14,223 --> 01:18:17,193 we could still utter one decent idea once a week... 1269 01:18:18,494 --> 01:18:20,329 from our stupor, you know? 1270 01:18:20,396 --> 01:18:22,231 So, I don't know. It ended. 1271 01:18:23,566 --> 01:18:25,601 The band turned to Bill Curbishley 1272 01:18:25,668 --> 01:18:27,336 to take over management. 1273 01:18:27,403 --> 01:18:30,139 I looked at the past contracts 1274 01:18:30,206 --> 01:18:33,509 and what they were achieving as live performers, 1275 01:18:33,576 --> 01:18:36,980 and I felt that could be dramatically changed. 1276 01:18:37,046 --> 01:18:38,414 * Bell boy * 1277 01:18:38,481 --> 01:18:42,185 -* Gonna get running now * -* Bell boy * 1278 01:18:42,251 --> 01:18:45,721 Having set their affairs in order, he urged them to tour Quadrophenia. 1279 01:18:45,789 --> 01:18:49,425 * Carry the bloody Baggage out * -* Bell boy * 1280 01:18:49,492 --> 01:18:52,261 * Always running At someone's heel * 1281 01:18:52,328 --> 01:18:55,231 But Pete's new opera was much more demanding live 1282 01:18:55,298 --> 01:18:57,066 than Tommy had been. 1283 01:18:57,133 --> 01:18:59,335 What happened on Quadrophenia was 1284 01:18:59,402 --> 01:19:02,071 I had absolute control. 1285 01:19:02,138 --> 01:19:04,841 And everybody involved in it was like my puppet. 1286 01:19:04,908 --> 01:19:08,411 And I think by the very, very end of it, Roger just got sick of it. 1287 01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:14,350 Roger and Pete had a fight in rehearsals. 1288 01:19:17,486 --> 01:19:19,522 Pete just got really angry with me. 1289 01:19:19,588 --> 01:19:21,991 Takes his guitar and hits me over the shoulder with it. 1290 01:19:22,058 --> 01:19:24,293 So the road crew, they jump on me. 1291 01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:28,131 I was holding Pete back, and the roadies were holding Roger back. 1292 01:19:28,197 --> 01:19:30,533 And I hadn't done anything. 1293 01:19:30,599 --> 01:19:33,169 Pete turned around and said, "Yeah, let me go, let me go." 1294 01:19:33,236 --> 01:19:35,138 So, I thought, fine. I let him go. 1295 01:19:35,204 --> 01:19:38,041 And he just came at me. He was so drunk. 1296 01:19:38,107 --> 01:19:42,345 - And he walked up to Roger. - I just managed to catch him with a very lucky punch. 1297 01:19:42,411 --> 01:19:45,081 - Whack. - Completely knocked him sparko. 1298 01:19:45,148 --> 01:19:46,148 Thump. 1299 01:19:48,317 --> 01:19:51,620 His feet left the ground, and he hit his head on the stage. 1300 01:19:51,687 --> 01:19:54,057 And he was unconscious, and I thought, "Fuck." 1301 01:19:56,192 --> 01:19:59,929 We were all exhausted. And it's a magnificent piece of work. 1302 01:19:59,996 --> 01:20:03,366 Absolutely magnificent. It's our towering triumph, Quadrophenia. 1303 01:20:03,432 --> 01:20:05,835 So, in a sense, you know, 1304 01:20:05,902 --> 01:20:08,737 a little bit of blood spilt on the way is nothing. 1305 01:20:11,674 --> 01:20:14,510 As boys, they played dance halls and pubs. 1306 01:20:14,577 --> 01:20:17,680 Here they are, The Who! 1307 01:20:17,746 --> 01:20:22,051 Less than a decade later, they were headlining stadiums. 1308 01:20:22,118 --> 01:20:25,154 As The Who developed, so had the business. 1309 01:20:25,221 --> 01:20:29,425 Just think about the feeling to walk onto a stage, 1310 01:20:29,492 --> 01:20:32,461 and you've got 60,000 people out there to see you. 1311 01:20:33,562 --> 01:20:38,534 Adulation from masses of people is power. 1312 01:20:38,601 --> 01:20:40,503 And it distorts. 1313 01:20:45,942 --> 01:20:48,311 The adrenaline that you get from stage... 1314 01:20:48,377 --> 01:20:53,449 it's incredibly good when it's used. 1315 01:20:53,516 --> 01:20:57,253 But if you can't use it, it's incredibly destructive. 1316 01:20:59,122 --> 01:21:02,325 Keith and John together were a dangerous double act. 1317 01:21:02,391 --> 01:21:03,927 I was very naive. 1318 01:21:03,993 --> 01:21:06,729 I didn't realize how much coke they were doing, as well as drinking. 1319 01:21:06,795 --> 01:21:08,531 And Keith was doing everything else. 1320 01:21:15,638 --> 01:21:17,640 Mandrax to go to sleep. 1321 01:21:17,706 --> 01:21:20,276 Elephant tranquilizer. Anything anybody gave him, he would do it. 1322 01:21:22,311 --> 01:21:24,747 Who knows what was going on in his brain? 1323 01:21:24,813 --> 01:21:29,218 I sometimes feel that he started to believe that he was invincible. 1324 01:21:29,285 --> 01:21:31,787 "I can take anything. I'm Keith Moon of The Who." 1325 01:21:39,295 --> 01:21:42,731 He was falling down with drug overdoses 1326 01:21:42,798 --> 01:21:46,635 on the stage during the shows! 1327 01:22:00,616 --> 01:22:03,052 I thought if we kept doing what we were doing, 1328 01:22:03,119 --> 01:22:04,820 you know, Keith was gonna die. 1329 01:22:10,726 --> 01:22:12,628 After the Quadrophenia tour, 1330 01:22:12,695 --> 01:22:15,731 The Who did not take the stage again for 16 months. 1331 01:22:22,471 --> 01:22:25,341 We were off the road for long periods of time, 1332 01:22:25,408 --> 01:22:27,443 and that in itself was destructive to Keith. 1333 01:22:27,510 --> 01:22:31,514 Keith used to go out on benders because he didn't have nothing else to do. 1334 01:22:35,818 --> 01:22:37,653 He loved dressing up. 1335 01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:40,023 But the trouble is, you'd end up in a nightclub 1336 01:22:40,089 --> 01:22:42,425 with him dressed up as a tart or a cavalier. 1337 01:22:42,491 --> 01:22:45,194 And then 3:00 in the morning, 1338 01:22:45,261 --> 01:22:48,097 you've gone home, and he's still that person. 1339 01:22:48,164 --> 01:22:50,666 * Ba... Ba-Bar-Ran * 1340 01:22:50,733 --> 01:22:53,569 We'd just book a hotel in London, and he'd pull 1341 01:22:53,636 --> 01:22:55,971 all the Swedish models out of Tramps for four nights 1342 01:22:56,039 --> 01:22:57,906 and, excuse my French, shag ourselves to death. 1343 01:22:57,973 --> 01:23:02,411 I used to drive him home, and he was like that in the car. 1344 01:23:02,478 --> 01:23:05,248 I'd just get him outside, but he goes, "Ah, dear boy. 1345 01:23:05,314 --> 01:23:08,251 What a brilliant four days. Let's do that again next week." 1346 01:23:08,317 --> 01:23:10,186 And I'd go, "Yeah, okay." 1347 01:23:10,253 --> 01:23:12,221 Dougal, he was always there for Keith. 1348 01:23:12,288 --> 01:23:14,623 He was a good roadie. He was a good driver. 1349 01:23:14,690 --> 01:23:18,394 He was a good... He was a good cornerman. 1350 01:23:18,461 --> 01:23:22,031 Moon's previous cornerman was killed on the job. 1351 01:23:22,098 --> 01:23:25,501 In 1970, his childhood friend, Neil Boland, 1352 01:23:25,568 --> 01:23:27,603 was accidentally run over by Keith 1353 01:23:27,670 --> 01:23:31,174 during an alcohol-fueled scuffle outside a nightclub. 1354 01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:35,010 Nobody's really clear on what happened that night, 1355 01:23:35,078 --> 01:23:37,446 but Keith's journey 1356 01:23:37,513 --> 01:23:40,216 of experience with alcohol and drugs 1357 01:23:40,283 --> 01:23:43,619 basically gathered speed. 1358 01:23:45,188 --> 01:23:48,291 In 1974, Moon moved to Malibu, 1359 01:23:48,357 --> 01:23:51,760 home of the Southern California surfer music he loved so much. 1360 01:23:51,827 --> 01:23:54,963 * Here by the sea and sand * 1361 01:23:55,030 --> 01:23:57,666 * Nothing ever goes as planned * 1362 01:23:57,733 --> 01:24:00,503 * I just couldn't face Going home * 1363 01:24:02,205 --> 01:24:05,141 * It was just a drag On my own * 1364 01:24:05,208 --> 01:24:06,909 He wanted to get into movies. 1365 01:24:06,975 --> 01:24:09,812 People would say, "Oh, he'd make a great movie star." 1366 01:24:09,878 --> 01:24:12,348 At the end, it became too much. 1367 01:24:12,415 --> 01:24:15,551 * I'm the face If you want it, baby * 1368 01:24:15,618 --> 01:24:18,821 * I'm the face if you want it * 1369 01:24:18,887 --> 01:24:22,925 I made a phone call to Bill Curbishley and I said, "Look, I'm leaving, 1370 01:24:22,991 --> 01:24:24,760 'cause I can't do it anymore." 1371 01:24:24,827 --> 01:24:27,530 * If you want it * 1372 01:24:27,596 --> 01:24:31,700 But I did say to Bill, "Get him home as soon as possible, 1373 01:24:31,767 --> 01:24:35,738 'cause the way he's carrying on, he's not gonna be here much longer." 1374 01:24:37,106 --> 01:24:40,209 * Nothing is planned By the sea and the sand * 1375 01:24:46,682 --> 01:24:51,086 In 1975, Tommy was immortalized on film, 1376 01:24:51,154 --> 01:24:53,122 but not by Kit Lambert. 1377 01:24:53,189 --> 01:24:57,460 Director Ken Russell wrote a new script for the rock opera. 1378 01:24:57,526 --> 01:25:00,062 The film is appalling, right? It's dreadful. 1379 01:25:00,129 --> 01:25:04,066 And everybody in it really should question their fuckin' judg... 1380 01:25:04,133 --> 01:25:05,768 particularly Eric Clapton. 1381 01:25:05,834 --> 01:25:09,705 A bit pants. A little bit pants. 1382 01:25:09,772 --> 01:25:12,941 And I've always been a fan of Ken's, both as a person 1383 01:25:13,008 --> 01:25:16,212 and as a visionary, and I love it... I just love it. 1384 01:25:16,279 --> 01:25:19,448 Tommy spent 14 weeks atop the British box office 1385 01:25:19,515 --> 01:25:22,618 and garnered three Academy Award nominations. 1386 01:25:24,653 --> 01:25:28,357 As his most popular creation took another lap around the world, 1387 01:25:28,424 --> 01:25:31,126 Pete went to work on a new album. 1388 01:25:31,194 --> 01:25:33,696 I would think, "I can't go through that again." 1389 01:25:33,762 --> 01:25:35,464 I just can't go through it again. 1390 01:25:35,531 --> 01:25:38,534 I can't come up with some great idea and push it through. 1391 01:25:38,601 --> 01:25:41,937 I don't have the arrogance. I don't have the... 1392 01:25:42,004 --> 01:25:44,673 I don't have the... the balls to do it again. 1393 01:25:44,740 --> 01:25:48,277 * It's clear to all my friends That I habitually lie * 1394 01:25:48,344 --> 01:25:51,214 * I just bring them down * 1395 01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:54,250 Where we saw our future was in movies. 1396 01:25:54,317 --> 01:25:56,252 We'd already done Tommy. 1397 01:25:56,319 --> 01:25:59,188 We'd managed to get a foothold in Shepperton Studios. 1398 01:25:59,255 --> 01:26:01,857 We thought that we were gonna be about movies. 1399 01:26:01,924 --> 01:26:04,427 Manager Bill Curbishley would strike a deal 1400 01:26:04,493 --> 01:26:07,563 to produce the film of Quadrophenia. 1401 01:26:07,630 --> 01:26:10,499 As they pursued the new popular art form, 1402 01:26:10,566 --> 01:26:13,101 a new generation began taking over music. 1403 01:26:17,172 --> 01:26:19,975 Punk... I hated it, and I couldn't see the point 1404 01:26:20,042 --> 01:26:21,877 of spitting and all that crap. 1405 01:26:21,944 --> 01:26:24,213 It was the revolution of the uglies. 1406 01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:26,282 And the uglies loved The Who. 1407 01:26:26,349 --> 01:26:31,420 * You think that we look Pretty good together * 1408 01:26:33,322 --> 01:26:35,924 You know, they'd come under that category a little bit 1409 01:26:35,991 --> 01:26:38,861 as big, big stars that weren't approachable. 1410 01:26:38,927 --> 01:26:41,964 * Substitute for another guy * 1411 01:26:42,030 --> 01:26:44,767 We were frightened. It was like the French Revolution. 1412 01:26:44,833 --> 01:26:46,802 It could've ended up with, you know, 1413 01:26:46,869 --> 01:26:50,939 The Beatles, The Stones and The Who being beheaded in public. 1414 01:26:51,006 --> 01:26:55,844 * I was born with A plastic spoon in my mouth * 1415 01:26:55,911 --> 01:27:00,082 Me and Cookie went down to Speakeasy, which was an after-hours place in London, 1416 01:27:00,148 --> 01:27:02,184 and Townshend was in there, already drunk. 1417 01:27:02,251 --> 01:27:06,255 Went screaming up to Jones and Cook and kind of going, you know, 1418 01:27:06,322 --> 01:27:09,238 "If you want to take over, fuckin' take over. Just fuckin' get on with it. 1419 01:27:09,258 --> 01:27:11,226 Good fuckin' luck." 1420 01:27:11,294 --> 01:27:15,230 I think we might've been all a bit tipsy, but he was hammered. 1421 01:27:15,298 --> 01:27:18,634 And he was going up to people saying, "Who are ya? Who are ya?" 1422 01:27:18,701 --> 01:27:20,002 To everyone. 1423 01:27:30,446 --> 01:27:33,849 In 1977, Keith returned to England. 1424 01:27:33,916 --> 01:27:37,252 Pete had been writing new material. 1425 01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:39,355 * Who are you? * 1426 01:27:39,422 --> 01:27:42,391 * Who, who, who, who * 1427 01:27:42,458 --> 01:27:45,193 * Who are you? * 1428 01:27:47,162 --> 01:27:49,131 * Who the fuck are you? * 1429 01:27:49,197 --> 01:27:51,534 That December, they filmed a performance 1430 01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:54,370 for the band's latest project, a documentary film. 1431 01:27:54,437 --> 01:27:56,739 * Who are you? * 1432 01:27:58,741 --> 01:28:00,743 * Tell me, who are you? * * Who are you? * 1433 01:28:00,809 --> 01:28:03,312 It was their first time back onstage in more than a year. 1434 01:28:03,379 --> 01:28:05,381 * Oh, tell me, who are you? * 1435 01:28:05,448 --> 01:28:07,450 * Who are you? * 1436 01:28:11,454 --> 01:28:13,922 * I woke up in a Soho doorway * 1437 01:28:13,989 --> 01:28:17,292 * A policeman knew my name * 1438 01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:19,728 * You can go sleep At home tonight * 1439 01:28:19,795 --> 01:28:21,730 * If you can get up And walk away * 1440 01:28:23,366 --> 01:28:25,534 * I staggered back To the underground * 1441 01:28:25,601 --> 01:28:29,004 * And the breeze Blew back my hair * 1442 01:28:29,071 --> 01:28:31,507 * I remember Throwing punches around * 1443 01:28:31,574 --> 01:28:34,710 * And preaching from my chair * 1444 01:28:34,777 --> 01:28:37,380 * Who are you? * 1445 01:28:37,446 --> 01:28:39,748 Unfortunately, the band didn't play as well, 1446 01:28:39,815 --> 01:28:42,818 but we all... I think all of us had such a good time together. 1447 01:28:42,885 --> 01:28:46,054 But we were all wrecks. You know, so it's kind of like... 1448 01:29:05,841 --> 01:29:09,144 * Who are you? * 1449 01:29:09,211 --> 01:29:12,047 -* Who, who, who, who * -* I really want to know * 1450 01:29:12,114 --> 01:29:14,383 * Who are you? * 1451 01:29:14,450 --> 01:29:16,952 * Who, who, who, who * 1452 01:29:17,019 --> 01:29:18,954 * Oh, who the fuck are you? * 1453 01:29:19,021 --> 01:29:20,956 In the spring of 1978, 1454 01:29:21,023 --> 01:29:24,627 they went back into the studio for the first time in three years. 1455 01:29:24,693 --> 01:29:28,130 That summer, Moon began taking prescription medicine 1456 01:29:28,196 --> 01:29:29,798 to try to curb his drinking. 1457 01:29:34,336 --> 01:29:36,839 Keith did that thing of, uh... 1458 01:29:36,905 --> 01:29:39,808 I said, "Now, come on, come on. Give it a real go." 1459 01:29:39,875 --> 01:29:42,678 And he'd start to try and play. 1460 01:29:42,745 --> 01:29:45,047 I'd say, "Come on. Try again." 1461 01:29:46,281 --> 01:29:49,384 And in the end, he threw down his sticks and went, 1462 01:29:49,452 --> 01:29:52,421 "I'm still... having a bad day... 1463 01:29:52,488 --> 01:29:56,358 but I'm still the best fuckin'... 1464 01:29:56,425 --> 01:29:59,294 Keith Moon-type... drummer in the world!" 1465 01:30:12,007 --> 01:30:14,710 * Who are you? * 1466 01:30:14,777 --> 01:30:17,312 * Who, who, who, who * 1467 01:30:17,379 --> 01:30:19,281 * I really want to know * 1468 01:30:19,347 --> 01:30:22,951 Who Are You was released August 18, 1978. 1469 01:30:23,018 --> 01:30:25,153 * I really want to know * 1470 01:30:25,220 --> 01:30:27,389 * Who are you? * 1471 01:30:27,456 --> 01:30:29,458 * Who * 1472 01:30:29,525 --> 01:30:32,027 * I really want to know * 1473 01:30:32,094 --> 01:30:35,063 * I really want to know * 1474 01:30:35,130 --> 01:30:37,566 * Come on Tell me, who are you * 1475 01:30:37,633 --> 01:30:41,937 * You, you, who are you? * 1476 01:30:45,741 --> 01:30:48,544 He was found unconscious in a London flat this morning. 1477 01:30:48,611 --> 01:30:51,093 The doctor was called, who pronounced Moon dead. 1478 01:30:51,113 --> 01:30:54,316 He was found dead by his girlfriend early today. He was 32. 1479 01:30:58,887 --> 01:31:02,958 It was a silly mistake that made him take a handful of Heminevrin. 1480 01:31:03,025 --> 01:31:06,962 It disables the esophagus, and, you know, he couldn't throw up, and... 1481 01:31:07,029 --> 01:31:10,699 He just always took pills in handfuls. It was just a habit that he had. 1482 01:31:12,300 --> 01:31:14,770 He was never gonna grow old gracefully. 1483 01:31:14,837 --> 01:31:18,206 I don't think he was destined to make old bones. 1484 01:31:19,407 --> 01:31:22,010 I suppose he was designed in such a way 1485 01:31:22,077 --> 01:31:23,946 to be remembered as he was. 1486 01:31:25,347 --> 01:31:27,482 It is the end of an era. 1487 01:31:27,550 --> 01:31:29,952 We're gonna try and go on. 1488 01:31:30,018 --> 01:31:32,120 The one thing that everyone must understand... 1489 01:31:32,187 --> 01:31:34,790 It will never, ever be the same. That died. 1490 01:31:50,539 --> 01:31:53,441 But it was very strange, 'cause there's something underneath 1491 01:31:53,508 --> 01:31:56,979 that determined not to let the one thing 1492 01:31:57,045 --> 01:32:02,250 that we'd all created, including Keith, die... 1493 01:32:02,317 --> 01:32:04,152 the music, not to let it die. 1494 01:32:04,219 --> 01:32:08,156 * Long live rock I need it every night * 1495 01:32:11,426 --> 01:32:13,428 * Long live rock * 1496 01:32:13,495 --> 01:32:15,564 * Come on and join the line * 1497 01:32:19,134 --> 01:32:23,606 * Long live rock * 1498 01:32:23,672 --> 01:32:25,941 * Be it dead or alive * 1499 01:32:26,008 --> 01:32:28,156 Less than eight months after Moonie's death, 1500 01:32:28,176 --> 01:32:31,546 The Who returned to the stage with keyboard player Rabbit Bundrick 1501 01:32:31,614 --> 01:32:34,216 and drummer Kenney Jones. 1502 01:32:34,282 --> 01:32:36,852 Kenney Jones was a good mate from The Small Faces, 1503 01:32:36,919 --> 01:32:40,589 and we'd always admired him as a drummer, and we liked him as a guy. 1504 01:32:40,656 --> 01:32:44,593 Anything can change, especially, you know, with Pete. 1505 01:32:44,660 --> 01:32:48,597 So, you just go with it, and you got to know when to go with it. 1506 01:32:53,636 --> 01:32:56,939 I went to see The Who for the first time without Keith, 1507 01:32:57,005 --> 01:32:59,141 and I'm standing at the side of the stage, 1508 01:32:59,207 --> 01:33:01,443 and Pete goes off onto some sort of 1509 01:33:01,509 --> 01:33:03,846 freestyle sort of riff, you know, on his guitar, 1510 01:33:03,912 --> 01:33:06,348 and he turns to Keith. 1511 01:33:06,414 --> 01:33:09,084 Because he's gone as far as he can go. 1512 01:33:09,151 --> 01:33:11,687 So he turns to Keith to take it over. 1513 01:33:13,722 --> 01:33:16,692 Those moments, like on the stage when I'm taken aback, 1514 01:33:16,759 --> 01:33:19,327 because I look, and I expect him to be there. 1515 01:33:19,394 --> 01:33:21,529 This is because it is like a marriage. 1516 01:33:21,596 --> 01:33:23,666 * Long live rock * 1517 01:33:23,732 --> 01:33:25,734 * Come on and join the line * 1518 01:33:25,801 --> 01:33:27,836 A real sense of connection 1519 01:33:27,903 --> 01:33:31,139 and of life wanting to kind of go on like a wheel. 1520 01:33:31,206 --> 01:33:34,376 And thinking, well, everything that goes comes back again. 1521 01:33:34,442 --> 01:33:37,245 And the thing is, is that with people it doesn't work like that, 1522 01:33:37,312 --> 01:33:39,381 and they don't come back again. 1523 01:33:41,016 --> 01:33:43,585 Let's have the biggest hand of the night 1524 01:33:43,652 --> 01:33:46,554 for Mr. Kenney Jones, our new drummer. 1525 01:33:46,621 --> 01:33:48,657 Hey. 1526 01:33:51,259 --> 01:33:54,663 Didn't know what I was letting myself in for, to be honest. But there you go. 1527 01:33:57,666 --> 01:34:01,536 What happened to me was I started to drift into substances, you know. 1528 01:34:03,138 --> 01:34:05,974 Pete's addiction in 1979 1529 01:34:06,041 --> 01:34:09,211 was perhaps a reflection of, I think, the guilt 1530 01:34:09,277 --> 01:34:13,381 that both... I'm sure Pete felt. 1531 01:34:13,448 --> 01:34:17,119 'Cause I know I did. That I hadn't done enough... 1532 01:34:17,185 --> 01:34:19,421 enough to save Kei... save Keith. 1533 01:34:21,123 --> 01:34:24,860 You know, even I started to do things I'd never done before. 1534 01:34:24,927 --> 01:34:27,495 You know, I felt very miserable for a long time. 1535 01:34:28,596 --> 01:34:32,200 Roger obviously was missing Moonie. 1536 01:34:32,267 --> 01:34:35,003 Not just onstage, but in many other ways. 1537 01:34:35,070 --> 01:34:37,372 And I think it really got to him a bit. 1538 01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:40,943 I didn't bank on the emotional elements, you know. 1539 01:34:42,010 --> 01:34:43,846 During Kenney's first tour, 1540 01:34:43,912 --> 01:34:48,116 The Who played through the deadliest rock concert in US history. 1541 01:34:48,183 --> 01:34:51,987 Cincinnati was an emotionally devastating situation. 1542 01:34:52,054 --> 01:34:55,958 The band were, like, 20 minutes into their show. 1543 01:34:56,024 --> 01:34:58,293 The co-promoter came to me, and he said, 1544 01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:01,529 "We've got a problem up on the plaza level." 1545 01:35:03,165 --> 01:35:05,801 What happened is there was only one door to get through 1546 01:35:05,868 --> 01:35:08,536 and a staircase to go down, so they all rushed. 1547 01:35:08,603 --> 01:35:11,874 And those kids that fell got trampled on. 1548 01:35:13,308 --> 01:35:15,677 The band were unaware of what was happening 1549 01:35:15,744 --> 01:35:17,712 until they finished the show. 1550 01:35:20,015 --> 01:35:22,885 We had to go back to America a couple of months later 1551 01:35:22,951 --> 01:35:25,453 and be grilled by the lawyers... 1552 01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:28,523 "Do you feel responsible for the people that died?" You know. 1553 01:35:28,824 --> 01:35:31,960 It still haunts me to this day. 1554 01:35:32,027 --> 01:35:35,330 I can't tell you how I felt about 1555 01:35:35,397 --> 01:35:38,166 the parents of those kids. 1556 01:35:38,233 --> 01:35:40,235 Their kids had gone off to a concert, 1557 01:35:40,302 --> 01:35:42,037 and they don't come home. 1558 01:35:44,106 --> 01:35:45,908 We all bear scars. 1559 01:35:45,974 --> 01:35:49,978 But you don't live without 1560 01:35:50,045 --> 01:35:53,281 having that map of life somewhere on your face. 1561 01:36:11,133 --> 01:36:13,701 They released two albums in two years... 1562 01:36:13,768 --> 01:36:15,804 Face Dances in '81 1563 01:36:15,871 --> 01:36:17,940 and It's Hard in '82, 1564 01:36:18,006 --> 01:36:21,009 only to be savaged by some fans and critics. 1565 01:36:21,076 --> 01:36:23,756 When you read the newspapers and the reviews, it's like, 1566 01:36:23,812 --> 01:36:27,549 "This album is the worst thing that's ever happened in the history of rock and roll. 1567 01:36:27,615 --> 01:36:29,855 Townshend has gone mad, and he's masturbating in public." 1568 01:36:29,918 --> 01:36:33,255 You know. "They may as well crawl away and die." 1569 01:36:33,321 --> 01:36:35,457 * Sun shines * 1570 01:36:37,625 --> 01:36:39,461 * People forget * 1571 01:36:43,231 --> 01:36:45,367 * Spray flies * 1572 01:36:45,433 --> 01:36:47,469 * As the speedboat glides * 1573 01:36:47,535 --> 01:36:49,271 * People forget * 1574 01:36:49,337 --> 01:36:52,274 The man who encouraged Pete to write works of art 1575 01:36:52,340 --> 01:36:55,410 died of a brain hemorrhage in 1981. 1576 01:36:55,477 --> 01:36:58,113 Kit Lambert was 45. 1577 01:36:58,180 --> 01:36:59,614 I didn't have an answer. 1578 01:36:59,681 --> 01:37:01,516 I couldn't work out what to do 1579 01:37:01,583 --> 01:37:04,586 that would return the band to its halcyon years. 1580 01:37:04,652 --> 01:37:07,222 * As the skier tracks * 1581 01:37:07,289 --> 01:37:09,191 * People forget * 1582 01:37:09,257 --> 01:37:11,559 * They forget they're hiding * 1583 01:37:12,727 --> 01:37:14,762 * It's an eminence front * 1584 01:37:14,829 --> 01:37:17,765 What makes The Who special is that it's not even what's written. 1585 01:37:17,832 --> 01:37:21,203 It's the bits you don't know are going to happen, and they come out of thin air. 1586 01:37:21,269 --> 01:37:24,172 Some nights it makes it, some nights it doesn't. 1587 01:37:24,239 --> 01:37:27,242 But the nights that it makes it, they were the... 1588 01:37:27,309 --> 01:37:30,845 That was the trouble with Kenney. Those nights became fewer and fewer. 1589 01:37:32,747 --> 01:37:35,450 It was Roger who pushed 1590 01:37:35,517 --> 01:37:37,519 to get him out of the band. 1591 01:37:37,585 --> 01:37:39,287 He didn't think he was right for The Who. 1592 01:37:39,354 --> 01:37:41,289 There is no right drummer for The Who. 1593 01:37:41,356 --> 01:37:43,825 There will be never be the right drummer for The Who. 1594 01:37:43,892 --> 01:37:45,560 It will only be Keith. 1595 01:37:46,895 --> 01:37:48,463 But there you go. 1596 01:37:48,530 --> 01:37:51,466 * Eminence front, yeah * 1597 01:37:51,533 --> 01:37:54,502 * Just an eminence front It's a put-on * 1598 01:37:54,569 --> 01:37:58,640 In 1983, Pete officially dissolved the band. 1599 01:37:58,706 --> 01:38:03,711 Just months before, Tommy was reissued on a new format... the compact disc. 1600 01:38:03,778 --> 01:38:07,149 * Bullshit, bullshit Yeah, yeah, yeah * 1601 01:38:07,215 --> 01:38:09,551 We just reached the end, you know. 1602 01:38:09,617 --> 01:38:12,054 That's the way I feel about it. I don't know why. 1603 01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:15,123 Bye, bye. I can't wait to get out. 1604 01:38:15,190 --> 01:38:17,960 * You got to dress to kill * 1605 01:38:23,999 --> 01:38:26,101 * Dress yourself to kill * 1606 01:38:30,672 --> 01:38:32,840 You've been traveling on this thing 1607 01:38:32,907 --> 01:38:35,677 that was going a million miles an hour, and all of a sudden, 1608 01:38:35,743 --> 01:38:38,246 it comes to a complete, dead stop. 1609 01:38:38,313 --> 01:38:42,985 And it's incredibly difficult to adjust. 1610 01:38:43,051 --> 01:38:45,620 Because we haven't lived normal lives. 1611 01:38:45,687 --> 01:38:48,423 It's as though the world stops. 1612 01:38:58,733 --> 01:39:00,802 At the time, I was fairly convinced 1613 01:39:00,868 --> 01:39:02,971 that I would do better as a solo artist. 1614 01:39:03,038 --> 01:39:05,473 I did a few songs. It was a pragmatic decision. 1615 01:39:05,540 --> 01:39:08,276 Whether it was the right or wrong decision, I had to do something. 1616 01:39:09,477 --> 01:39:11,413 I think if we'd have continued to work, 1617 01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:13,881 I think I would've been a casualty. 1618 01:39:13,948 --> 01:39:16,851 I blamed rock and roll, and, of course, after three or four years 1619 01:39:16,918 --> 01:39:19,154 being out of frontline rock and roll, 1620 01:39:19,221 --> 01:39:22,724 I realize I was just as sick, just as mad, and you know, just as overworked. 1621 01:39:22,790 --> 01:39:26,228 You know, so... it was me that was the problem. 1622 01:39:26,294 --> 01:39:30,065 The Who returned to the stage on only two occasions 1623 01:39:30,132 --> 01:39:32,467 over the next 13 years... 1624 01:39:32,534 --> 01:39:34,869 a 20-minute set at Live Aid 1625 01:39:34,936 --> 01:39:39,407 and an all-star tour for the 20th anniversary of Tommy. 1626 01:39:39,474 --> 01:39:40,808 That's the weird thing. 1627 01:39:40,875 --> 01:39:44,246 It's like soldiers that used to go out to war and come back 1628 01:39:44,312 --> 01:39:46,714 and just couldn't identify with, like, normal life anymore. 1629 01:39:46,781 --> 01:39:51,253 When you come home, it's like, "I can't take this, like, normal existence." 1630 01:39:51,319 --> 01:39:53,355 John lived for gigging. 1631 01:39:53,421 --> 01:39:57,092 He went out with solo bands, and it cost him. 1632 01:39:57,159 --> 01:40:01,296 He'd finance it. He didn't make any money. Just to be out there. 1633 01:40:01,363 --> 01:40:03,398 John was deeply in debt. 1634 01:40:03,465 --> 01:40:05,533 I don't think it's any secret that he was. 1635 01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:07,635 Those years when The Who weren't working, 1636 01:40:07,702 --> 01:40:11,073 he continued to spend and live the lifestyle. 1637 01:40:18,546 --> 01:40:22,584 I went to Pete and said, "You know, this is the only way he's gonna ever get 1638 01:40:22,650 --> 01:40:26,721 a chance to dig himself out of the hole is if you would get The Who back together." 1639 01:40:27,589 --> 01:40:29,424 * Why should I care? * 1640 01:40:31,326 --> 01:40:33,027 * Why should I care? * 1641 01:40:33,095 --> 01:40:35,463 I would never hesitate to consider, at least, 1642 01:40:35,530 --> 01:40:38,466 that it might be something to do, because I would just think, 1643 01:40:38,533 --> 01:40:40,702 "Well, without him, I wouldn't even be here." 1644 01:40:47,442 --> 01:40:50,978 Pete agreed to tour Quadrophenia in 1996. 1645 01:40:51,045 --> 01:40:53,681 The band brought in Ringo Starr's son, 1646 01:40:53,748 --> 01:40:56,084 Zak Starkey, on drums. 1647 01:40:56,151 --> 01:40:58,920 As soon as we played those songs, Moonie was alive again. 1648 01:41:00,855 --> 01:41:04,292 - * Girls of 15 * - * Sexually knowing * 1649 01:41:04,359 --> 01:41:08,196 - * The ushers are sniffing * - * Eau-de-cologne-ing * 1650 01:41:08,263 --> 01:41:11,999 At the end John was handed checks of well over two, three million dollars, 1651 01:41:12,066 --> 01:41:13,835 and they were gone overnight. 1652 01:41:13,901 --> 01:41:16,138 * Prettier women * 1653 01:41:19,807 --> 01:41:22,277 With John in financial trouble, they agreed to 1654 01:41:22,344 --> 01:41:24,712 yet another reunion in 1999 1655 01:41:24,779 --> 01:41:26,581 with just their basic lineup. 1656 01:41:26,648 --> 01:41:29,083 * I've got a feeling inside * 1657 01:41:29,151 --> 01:41:30,752 * Can't explain * 1658 01:41:30,818 --> 01:41:34,389 -* It's a certain kind * -* Can't explain * 1659 01:41:34,456 --> 01:41:36,591 John never seemed to go into a depression. 1660 01:41:36,658 --> 01:41:40,428 As long as there was a nice, big wardrobe with 15 pairs of shoes in it 1661 01:41:40,495 --> 01:41:42,730 and, uh... and the obligatory 1662 01:41:42,797 --> 01:41:45,933 serially monogamous girlfriend along, he was happy. 1663 01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:49,671 Under the continued leadership of manager Bill Curbishley, 1664 01:41:49,737 --> 01:41:53,074 the band agreed to a series of live shows. 1665 01:41:53,141 --> 01:41:55,977 * I can't explain I think it's love * 1666 01:41:56,043 --> 01:41:59,514 * Try to say it to you When I feel blue * 1667 01:41:59,581 --> 01:42:02,083 * But I can't explain * 1668 01:42:02,150 --> 01:42:04,018 Something happened then. 1669 01:42:04,085 --> 01:42:05,587 Pete became inspired again. 1670 01:42:05,653 --> 01:42:08,423 It was like the wheel was back on the barrow. 1671 01:42:16,964 --> 01:42:20,034 We were just celebrating the old music. 1672 01:42:20,101 --> 01:42:24,038 I'd felt like we should just 1673 01:42:24,105 --> 01:42:26,274 accept that, you know, we had these great songs, 1674 01:42:26,341 --> 01:42:28,910 and personally, I was never gonna be able to surpass them. 1675 01:42:28,976 --> 01:42:31,613 * I said, I can't explain * 1676 01:42:40,222 --> 01:42:42,056 Thank you very much. 1677 01:42:44,959 --> 01:42:48,596 We are honored to be here. 1678 01:42:58,005 --> 01:43:00,141 Music is an art form. 1679 01:43:00,208 --> 01:43:03,044 That art form includes rhythm, 1680 01:43:03,110 --> 01:43:05,380 meaning and communication. 1681 01:43:05,447 --> 01:43:08,383 I've met people from different walks of life, 1682 01:43:08,450 --> 01:43:12,186 and they've all been touched in such a unique 1683 01:43:12,254 --> 01:43:14,689 and pure way. 1684 01:43:14,756 --> 01:43:18,360 They really feel this deep connection. 1685 01:43:18,426 --> 01:43:21,496 So now you've got, for me, 1686 01:43:21,563 --> 01:43:24,165 the greatest art form that ever existed. 1687 01:43:38,313 --> 01:43:40,715 * There'll be fighting In the streets * 1688 01:43:40,782 --> 01:43:45,086 * With our children At our feet * 1689 01:43:45,152 --> 01:43:48,956 * And the morals That we worshipped Will be gone * 1690 01:43:51,893 --> 01:43:54,796 * And the men Who spurred us on * 1691 01:43:54,862 --> 01:43:56,931 When we got that call 1692 01:43:56,998 --> 01:43:59,901 about the concert for New York, 1693 01:43:59,967 --> 01:44:03,271 America meant so much to The Who, we had to go. 1694 01:44:06,408 --> 01:44:10,144 * I'll tip my hat To the new constitution * 1695 01:44:10,211 --> 01:44:13,715 * Take a bow For the new revolution * 1696 01:44:13,781 --> 01:44:16,984 * Smile and grin At the change all around * 1697 01:44:17,051 --> 01:44:19,521 * Pick up my guitar And I'll play * 1698 01:44:19,587 --> 01:44:22,957 I was standing just off the stage. 1699 01:44:23,024 --> 01:44:26,894 I mean, you know, for me, over all those years of watching The Who, 1700 01:44:26,961 --> 01:44:30,097 man, I've never seen anything like that. 1701 01:44:31,433 --> 01:44:34,336 * We don't get fooled again * 1702 01:44:35,637 --> 01:44:37,439 * No, no * 1703 01:44:46,113 --> 01:44:49,751 I was sitting with Bono, just the two of us. Could not believe it. 1704 01:44:49,817 --> 01:44:54,188 Just the way they just owned that event, you know, over the TV. 1705 01:45:01,963 --> 01:45:04,899 * There's nothing In the streets * 1706 01:45:04,966 --> 01:45:08,436 * Looks any different To me * 1707 01:45:08,503 --> 01:45:11,606 * And the slogans Are replaced * 1708 01:45:11,673 --> 01:45:13,408 * By the by * 1709 01:45:14,776 --> 01:45:17,345 Just so much more powerful live 1710 01:45:17,412 --> 01:45:19,781 than anyone else that was on the bill that night. 1711 01:45:20,715 --> 01:45:22,149 That show in New York, 1712 01:45:22,216 --> 01:45:25,720 that could be one of the best illustrations of the power of music. 1713 01:45:39,401 --> 01:45:42,537 * Yeah! * 1714 01:45:49,310 --> 01:45:52,179 * Not gonna get fooled * 1715 01:45:52,246 --> 01:45:54,616 * Don't you get fooled again * 1716 01:45:56,150 --> 01:45:57,719 * No, no, no, no * 1717 01:46:13,468 --> 01:46:15,336 The sentiments of those songs... 1718 01:46:15,403 --> 01:46:18,706 If I could explain it to you, right, it would... 1719 01:46:18,773 --> 01:46:21,308 It would be too easy to explain it to you. 1720 01:46:21,375 --> 01:46:25,513 It's magic how those songs came from Shepherd's Bush, you know, 1721 01:46:25,580 --> 01:46:29,316 and mean as much to people 40 years later 1722 01:46:29,383 --> 01:46:31,385 than they did when they were written. 1723 01:46:31,453 --> 01:46:34,402 You know, that's phenomenal. And that's something you can't put into words. 1724 01:46:34,422 --> 01:46:36,257 It's just magic, man. 1725 01:46:46,267 --> 01:46:49,036 They were back in a big, big way. 1726 01:46:49,103 --> 01:46:51,372 Back as a four-piece. Back on the road. 1727 01:46:51,439 --> 01:46:53,407 It was like a rebirth again. 1728 01:47:01,248 --> 01:47:05,252 We had to go back and play there. We had a contract to play Las Vegas. 1729 01:47:07,655 --> 01:47:09,924 I flew out to Las Vegas, 1730 01:47:09,991 --> 01:47:14,462 and the next morning got a call from my tour manager saying they couldn't wake John up. 1731 01:47:21,435 --> 01:47:24,138 Let's put something into a little bit of perspective. 1732 01:47:24,205 --> 01:47:26,774 John was one of the best bass players in the world. 1733 01:47:26,841 --> 01:47:28,876 John died at the age of nearly 60 1734 01:47:28,943 --> 01:47:32,580 with a woman, in bed, after snorting cocaine. 1735 01:47:32,647 --> 01:47:34,916 Now, you think, "Hold on, John. 1736 01:47:34,982 --> 01:47:39,286 You should've done this in the '70s, not now." 1737 01:47:40,688 --> 01:47:42,924 The coroner's report of the situation 1738 01:47:42,990 --> 01:47:44,926 in Las Vegas is quite clear. 1739 01:47:44,992 --> 01:47:48,329 He shouldn't have been there, doing what he was doing, and it was crazy. 1740 01:47:48,395 --> 01:47:50,998 It's kind of what he chose to do. 1741 01:47:51,065 --> 01:47:53,835 That's just how he was. 1742 01:47:53,901 --> 01:47:55,903 I did have a chuckle. I mean, 1743 01:47:55,970 --> 01:47:59,974 if he was gonna go, he couldn't have gone in a better way, really. 1744 01:48:00,041 --> 01:48:02,043 On tour, doing all the things he, 1745 01:48:02,109 --> 01:48:04,345 and being around the things he loved best, you know. 1746 01:48:09,250 --> 01:48:11,886 I think all of us would want to die onstage. 1747 01:48:11,953 --> 01:48:15,923 I mean, none of us want to be, uh, just written off. 1748 01:48:15,990 --> 01:48:18,660 It gets more difficult as you get older. 1749 01:48:18,726 --> 01:48:20,494 How do I say this? 1750 01:48:20,562 --> 01:48:23,765 Let's say for argument's sake you're a 58-year-old guy 1751 01:48:23,831 --> 01:48:26,901 who's been in a band from the '60s, all right? 1752 01:48:26,968 --> 01:48:29,837 It's fuckin' frowned upon in this country. 1753 01:48:29,904 --> 01:48:32,774 Like, "You fucking idiot. What are you doing, silly old man?" 1754 01:48:34,809 --> 01:48:38,079 We have this tendency to kind of take the piss out of lads like that. 1755 01:48:38,145 --> 01:48:39,714 I don't know why it is, you know. 1756 01:48:39,781 --> 01:48:43,350 We should keep going until it's over. 1757 01:48:43,417 --> 01:48:45,119 We shouldn't stop. 1758 01:48:47,221 --> 01:48:52,560 * They make my dream Come true * 1759 01:48:54,596 --> 01:48:59,466 * They make my dream Come true * 1760 01:49:01,002 --> 01:49:04,572 Pete rang me back and said, "I want to continue with this tour." 1761 01:49:04,639 --> 01:49:07,474 If we'd have split up and gone our own ways, 1762 01:49:07,541 --> 01:49:10,845 the next day, I think we would've probably 1763 01:49:10,912 --> 01:49:14,548 found it very difficult to get back together on a stage. 1764 01:49:15,783 --> 01:49:17,652 The Who performed four days later 1765 01:49:17,719 --> 01:49:19,887 at the Hollywood Bowl in Los Angeles. 1766 01:49:25,359 --> 01:49:29,163 Pino Paladino was the band's first choice to fill in on bass. 1767 01:49:30,632 --> 01:49:32,700 Listen, we know this... 1768 01:49:32,767 --> 01:49:35,703 for some of the fans that have followed us for many years, 1769 01:49:35,770 --> 01:49:37,538 this is gonna be very difficult. 1770 01:49:37,605 --> 01:49:39,373 And, uh, we understand. 1771 01:49:39,440 --> 01:49:43,678 And we're not pretending that nothing's happened, as Roger said earlier on. 1772 01:49:43,745 --> 01:49:45,680 And, uh... 1773 01:49:45,747 --> 01:49:47,514 And, uh, it is difficult. 1774 01:49:49,350 --> 01:49:51,552 I can tell you with my hand on my heart 1775 01:49:51,619 --> 01:49:54,722 that when I did look over there and he wasn't there, 1776 01:49:54,789 --> 01:49:58,159 I wanted to die... I just wanted to die. 1777 01:49:58,225 --> 01:50:00,594 * The song is over * 1778 01:50:03,197 --> 01:50:06,200 * I'm left with only tears * 1779 01:50:07,969 --> 01:50:10,071 * I must remember * 1780 01:50:12,707 --> 01:50:14,709 * Even if it takes * 1781 01:50:14,776 --> 01:50:19,446 * A million years * 1782 01:50:21,448 --> 01:50:23,617 If Moon was predictable, 1783 01:50:23,685 --> 01:50:25,753 then John was unnecessary. 1784 01:50:26,954 --> 01:50:28,756 A great, great loss. 1785 01:50:28,823 --> 01:50:30,557 Great loss, John. 1786 01:50:34,829 --> 01:50:37,331 I miss him so much, I can't tell you. 1787 01:50:52,680 --> 01:50:55,516 What's actually now happened, a further gift 1788 01:50:55,582 --> 01:50:57,785 that John's death has given me is 1789 01:50:57,852 --> 01:51:01,622 to enjoy an acutely 1790 01:51:01,689 --> 01:51:03,691 emphatic relationship with Roger. 1791 01:51:05,126 --> 01:51:06,794 You know, we experienced John's death. 1792 01:51:06,861 --> 01:51:09,096 He saw me get arrested for, you know, 1793 01:51:09,163 --> 01:51:11,665 a child pornography allegation. 1794 01:51:11,733 --> 01:51:16,037 * How dare you wear a robe To preside * 1795 01:51:16,103 --> 01:51:20,074 * How dare you cover Your head to hide * 1796 01:51:20,141 --> 01:51:22,209 * Your face from God * 1797 01:51:22,276 --> 01:51:23,911 He was vilified. 1798 01:51:23,978 --> 01:51:26,714 He was dragged across the fuckin' national papers 1799 01:51:26,781 --> 01:51:29,250 in a scurrilous way, you know. 1800 01:51:29,316 --> 01:51:31,786 And after months of investigation, 1801 01:51:31,853 --> 01:51:35,389 they established that there was nothing he could be charged with. 1802 01:51:41,829 --> 01:51:45,399 In the end, nobody much is gonna listen to me. 1803 01:51:45,466 --> 01:51:47,869 But Roger Daltrey, his partner, 1804 01:51:47,935 --> 01:51:50,371 he went to bat for him, 1805 01:51:50,437 --> 01:51:53,040 and he was under a lot of pressure, Roger. 1806 01:51:53,107 --> 01:51:57,311 * How dare you? Do you think I'll quietly go? * 1807 01:51:57,378 --> 01:52:00,815 * You are much braver Than you know * 1808 01:52:00,882 --> 01:52:03,384 * For I can't die * 1809 01:52:03,450 --> 01:52:06,153 Roger is the voice of The Who, and when you're growing up, 1810 01:52:06,220 --> 01:52:10,424 you think that he wrote all those things and he's singing them from his heart and... 1811 01:52:10,491 --> 01:52:13,594 And then you realize that it's coming from this guy, Pete. 1812 01:52:13,660 --> 01:52:16,697 That's when I started to realize there was something deeper going on here. 1813 01:52:16,764 --> 01:52:18,732 They're two incredibly strong forces, 1814 01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:20,835 and they've relied on each other for years. 1815 01:52:31,678 --> 01:52:36,283 Since John died, we're probably musically more together. 1816 01:52:36,350 --> 01:52:38,953 I'm sure spiritually we are. 1817 01:52:39,020 --> 01:52:41,122 * Will you have some tea * 1818 01:52:47,194 --> 01:52:50,064 * At the theater with me? * 1819 01:52:56,303 --> 01:52:57,872 * We did it all * 1820 01:53:01,142 --> 01:53:03,610 * Didn't we? * 1821 01:53:03,677 --> 01:53:06,313 * Jumped every wall * 1822 01:53:06,380 --> 01:53:10,151 I think Roger is the best interpreter of my work 1823 01:53:10,217 --> 01:53:12,086 that I could've ever hoped for. 1824 01:53:12,153 --> 01:53:15,589 * Unraveled codes * 1825 01:53:16,891 --> 01:53:19,493 * Ingeniously * 1826 01:53:19,560 --> 01:53:22,296 What's very interesting about what Roger and I are left with 1827 01:53:22,363 --> 01:53:25,032 is that we have a very pure relationship. 1828 01:53:25,099 --> 01:53:27,401 * So seamlessly * 1829 01:53:28,870 --> 01:53:31,939 * We made it work * 1830 01:53:32,006 --> 01:53:34,808 I recognize his genius, and I love him dearly. 1831 01:53:34,876 --> 01:53:37,912 He's like a brother. You know, that's love. 1832 01:53:37,979 --> 01:53:40,481 Even though on the outside and when you read things 1833 01:53:40,547 --> 01:53:44,051 about what we did in the past and how many fights we used to have, 1834 01:53:44,118 --> 01:53:46,320 you'd think these guys used to hate each other. 1835 01:53:46,387 --> 01:53:48,622 Did we? Fuck. You know. 1836 01:53:49,590 --> 01:53:52,193 Well, I didn't anyway. I loved him. 1837 01:53:52,259 --> 01:53:56,597 * A great dream derailed * 1838 01:53:56,663 --> 01:53:59,233 He's my friend, I love him, 1839 01:53:59,300 --> 01:54:02,003 and I'm standing by him, and he stands by me. 1840 01:54:02,069 --> 01:54:04,571 We can say what we like about each other now. 1841 01:54:04,638 --> 01:54:07,875 It's not easy for either of us, because we're so 1842 01:54:07,942 --> 01:54:11,378 unbelievably un-alike. 1843 01:54:11,445 --> 01:54:14,148 But, you know, we're kind of all we've got now. 1844 01:54:14,215 --> 01:54:17,318 * One of us, me * 1845 01:54:17,384 --> 01:54:20,187 * All of us, sad * 1846 01:54:20,254 --> 01:54:23,090 It is really not important whether I am at the time 1847 01:54:23,157 --> 01:54:25,927 getting on with Pete or he's getting on with me. 1848 01:54:25,993 --> 01:54:29,530 It doesn't matter. All that matters is what we create on the stage... 1849 01:54:29,596 --> 01:54:31,598 that two hours of music that night. 1850 01:54:31,665 --> 01:54:34,568 And as long as that is still moving people 1851 01:54:34,635 --> 01:54:36,770 and sending people out with a buzz, 1852 01:54:36,837 --> 01:54:38,705 then we're succeeding. 1853 01:54:38,772 --> 01:54:41,008 * Will you have some tea * 1854 01:54:46,480 --> 01:54:49,516 * At the theater with me? * 1855 01:55:16,610 --> 01:55:19,113 One, two! One, two, three! 1856 01:55:24,285 --> 01:55:26,620 * People try to put us d-down * 1857 01:55:26,687 --> 01:55:29,156 * Talking 'bout my generation * 1858 01:55:29,223 --> 01:55:31,125 * Just because we g-get around * 1859 01:55:31,192 --> 01:55:33,794 * Talking 'bout my generation * 1860 01:55:33,860 --> 01:55:36,263 * Things, they do look Awful c-cold * 1861 01:55:36,330 --> 01:55:38,032 * Talking 'bout my generation * 1862 01:55:38,099 --> 01:55:40,334 * I hope I die Before I get old * 1863 01:55:40,401 --> 01:55:44,171 -* Talking 'bout my generation * -* This is my generation * 1864 01:55:44,238 --> 01:55:47,274 * This is my generation, baby * 1865 01:55:47,341 --> 01:55:49,910 * Why don't you all F-Fade away * 1866 01:55:49,977 --> 01:55:52,213 * Talking 'bout my generation * 1867 01:55:52,279 --> 01:55:54,148 * Don't try to dig What we all say * 1868 01:55:54,215 --> 01:55:56,883 * Talking 'bout my generation * 1869 01:55:56,950 --> 01:55:59,653 * I'm not trying to cause A b-big sensation * 1870 01:55:59,720 --> 01:56:01,822 * Talking 'bout my generation * 1871 01:56:01,888 --> 01:56:04,591 * Just talking 'bout My g-generation * 1872 01:56:04,658 --> 01:56:06,960 * Talking 'bout my g... * 1873 01:56:07,028 --> 01:56:09,163 -* My generation * -* Talking 'bout my generation * 1874 01:56:09,230 --> 01:56:11,398 * Talking 'bout my generation * 1875 01:56:36,557 --> 01:56:40,061 * Why don't you all F-Fade away * 1876 01:56:40,127 --> 01:56:44,998 * And don't try to dig What-What we all s-say * 1877 01:56:45,066 --> 01:56:50,304 * I'm not trying to cause A bloody big sensation * 1878 01:56:50,737 --> 01:56:54,808 -* Talking 'bout my-my-my * -* Talking 'bout my generation * 1879 01:56:54,875 --> 01:56:56,843 * My g-generation * 1880 01:57:07,121 --> 01:57:09,290 * Yeah, I'm talking 'bout it * 1881 01:57:35,082 --> 01:57:36,317 * Hey * 1882 01:57:38,885 --> 01:57:40,154 * Hey * 1883 01:58:37,110 --> 01:58:38,879 Keith Moon on the drums here. 1884 01:58:38,945 --> 01:58:41,382 In the black corner, the Ox. 1885 01:58:41,448 --> 01:58:43,717 For Mr. Kenney Jones. 1886 01:58:43,784 --> 01:58:46,520 Pino Paladino on bass! 1887 01:58:46,587 --> 01:58:49,623 Simon Townshend, guitar, vocal! 1888 01:58:49,690 --> 01:58:51,958 Zak Starkey on the drums! 1889 01:58:52,025 --> 01:58:55,929 John "Rabbit" Bundrick on keyboards! 1890 01:58:55,996 --> 01:58:59,433 But most of all, you! 1891 01:59:07,241 --> 01:59:10,744 We will be back!154051

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