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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,441 --> 00:00:08,524 (film tape whirring) 2 00:00:10,978 --> 00:00:13,478 (eerie music) 3 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,130 - What do you know about the past 4 00:00:32,130 --> 00:00:33,303 and how do you know it? 5 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:39,210 Our species stretches back over 300,000 years, 6 00:00:39,210 --> 00:00:41,310 yet we only have written records 7 00:00:41,310 --> 00:00:43,503 for the last 2% of that time. 8 00:00:44,370 --> 00:00:46,890 Across the long proceeding ages, 9 00:00:46,890 --> 00:00:51,810 how many cultures, kingdoms, and even empires have vanished? 10 00:00:51,810 --> 00:00:55,713 All evidence of their existence now turned to dust. 11 00:00:57,810 --> 00:01:01,410 Today, archeologists can carbon-date artifacts 12 00:01:01,410 --> 00:01:04,110 and sequence DNA with computers. 13 00:01:04,110 --> 00:01:06,870 Yet the picture of the deep past that emerges 14 00:01:06,870 --> 00:01:09,273 is often frustratingly incomplete. 15 00:01:10,950 --> 00:01:14,130 For the majority of our time on this planet, 16 00:01:14,130 --> 00:01:17,760 humanity has relied on myth to tell us the story 17 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,793 of who we are and where we came from. 18 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,010 Today we often think of myths as fantasies, 19 00:01:26,010 --> 00:01:28,773 fairytales for simple-minded primitives. 20 00:01:29,610 --> 00:01:32,760 We read about science myth-busting old ideas, 21 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,873 demonstrating how superior our knowledge is 22 00:01:34,873 --> 00:01:37,023 to that of our ancestors. 23 00:01:38,850 --> 00:01:40,980 But perhaps we shouldn't be so quick 24 00:01:40,980 --> 00:01:42,900 to draw these conclusions. 25 00:01:42,900 --> 00:01:46,927 We begun to discover that some myths are rooted in truth. 26 00:01:46,927 --> 00:01:48,150 (upbeat music) 27 00:01:48,150 --> 00:01:50,430 Troy, the famous city attacked 28 00:01:50,430 --> 00:01:53,400 by Greek heroes in the Iliad had been thought fiction 29 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,483 for hundreds of years, an invention of Homeric epic poetry. 30 00:01:58,470 --> 00:02:00,990 That is, until Heinrich Schliemann's team 31 00:02:00,990 --> 00:02:02,700 discovered its remains 32 00:02:02,700 --> 00:02:05,130 and those of its arch rival, Mycenae, 33 00:02:05,130 --> 00:02:06,990 in the late 19th century, 34 00:02:06,990 --> 00:02:10,380 completely shifting the paradigm around the credibility 35 00:02:10,380 --> 00:02:11,733 of ancient sources. 36 00:02:14,190 --> 00:02:16,740 The great flood myths of many cultures 37 00:02:16,740 --> 00:02:19,203 have often been considered religious parable, 38 00:02:20,460 --> 00:02:23,490 yet recent studies suggest they may reflect 39 00:02:23,490 --> 00:02:27,240 cultural memories of rapidly rising sea levels, 40 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,570 like those that caused massive catastrophic flooding 41 00:02:30,570 --> 00:02:34,650 of the Black Sea around 7,300 BC. 42 00:02:34,650 --> 00:02:37,710 Such evidence opens a tantalizing door, 43 00:02:37,710 --> 00:02:40,860 inviting us to wonder about ancient civilizations 44 00:02:40,860 --> 00:02:43,230 of which no true records exist. 45 00:02:43,230 --> 00:02:45,180 But there's one myth that's unlike others 46 00:02:45,180 --> 00:02:46,830 for a simple reason, 47 00:02:46,830 --> 00:02:49,530 it has dates attached to it. 48 00:02:49,530 --> 00:02:51,873 That myth is Atlantis. 49 00:02:52,740 --> 00:02:55,110 Most of us only have a foggy notion 50 00:02:55,110 --> 00:02:57,573 of what the Atlantis myth was really about. 51 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,890 Was it an advanced civilization from a missing period 52 00:03:01,890 --> 00:03:03,003 in prehistory? 53 00:03:04,050 --> 00:03:07,920 Or a decadent society on a lost continent 54 00:03:07,920 --> 00:03:11,313 crushed by the wrath of the gods in a cataclysmic event? 55 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,350 And if so, how exactly does a continent 56 00:03:16,350 --> 00:03:18,123 get lost in the first place? 57 00:03:24,330 --> 00:03:26,550 Let's begin with what Atlantis is, 58 00:03:26,550 --> 00:03:31,290 a story written down around 2,400 years ago here in Athens. 59 00:03:31,290 --> 00:03:33,063 The story is a strange one. 60 00:03:34,230 --> 00:03:37,680 Solon, famous law giver of the Athenian state 61 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,800 and one of the seven sages of Ancient Greece 62 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,250 journeyed to the Temple of Sais in the Egyptian Nile Delta 63 00:03:44,250 --> 00:03:46,113 around 600 BC. 64 00:03:47,310 --> 00:03:49,470 He spoke with the high priests there 65 00:03:49,470 --> 00:03:51,423 about the prehistoric past, 66 00:03:52,500 --> 00:03:55,290 and told them the Greek's own mythical version 67 00:03:55,290 --> 00:03:56,970 of these events, 68 00:03:56,970 --> 00:04:00,090 stretching back to the great flood of Deucalion, 69 00:04:00,090 --> 00:04:03,033 and estimated what the true dates might have been. 70 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,457 An elder priest responded, 71 00:04:06,457 --> 00:04:10,957 "Oh, Solon, Solon, you Greeks are always children. 72 00:04:10,957 --> 00:04:12,727 "No Greek is old. 73 00:04:12,727 --> 00:04:15,487 "You are young, let us say, in psyche 74 00:04:15,487 --> 00:04:17,527 "because you do not have inside you 75 00:04:17,527 --> 00:04:19,777 "any hearing of ancient knowledge, 76 00:04:19,777 --> 00:04:22,497 "and you have not learned of things of the past." 77 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:25,950 The priest describes a past 78 00:04:25,950 --> 00:04:30,630 interspersed with natural disasters, droughts, wildfires, 79 00:04:30,630 --> 00:04:32,853 and not one, but many floods. 80 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,070 It's a long past the Greeks have forgotten 81 00:04:38,070 --> 00:04:39,963 through a lack of continuity. 82 00:04:41,580 --> 00:04:45,990 Their culture had to reinvent itself after each disaster, 83 00:04:45,990 --> 00:04:49,743 its populace reduced to a life of basic subsistence. 84 00:04:52,260 --> 00:04:54,540 The Egyptians, by contrast, 85 00:04:54,540 --> 00:04:57,210 has escaped most of these disasters 86 00:04:57,210 --> 00:05:00,870 and maintained ongoing records of events in their temples, 87 00:05:00,870 --> 00:05:03,900 including a major story the priest is quite certain 88 00:05:03,900 --> 00:05:07,740 the Greeks have forgotten: Atlantis. 89 00:05:07,740 --> 00:05:09,330 It was said to be a continent 90 00:05:09,330 --> 00:05:13,263 with a mighty empire that existed around 9,600 BC, 91 00:05:14,220 --> 00:05:18,303 ruled by 10 kings descended from Poseidon, God of the Sea. 92 00:05:19,620 --> 00:05:22,833 Its capital city was astoundingly large and decadent, 93 00:05:24,030 --> 00:05:26,073 its army and navy enormous. 94 00:05:27,630 --> 00:05:32,343 Its wealth was unmatched, as was its thirst for conquest. 95 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,210 It swept across North Africa, 96 00:05:36,210 --> 00:05:38,280 eventually conquering Egypt, 97 00:05:38,280 --> 00:05:41,790 and assaulted the western Mediterranean coast of Europe 98 00:05:41,790 --> 00:05:43,083 up to central Italy. 99 00:05:44,850 --> 00:05:48,120 After a series of wars, it was finally defeated 100 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,430 by the ancestors of the Athenians 101 00:05:50,430 --> 00:05:53,790 who liberated Egypt and many other peoples, 102 00:05:53,790 --> 00:05:56,610 only to lose their army in the final assault 103 00:05:56,610 --> 00:05:59,400 on the capitol of this belligerent power 104 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,793 during a horrific earthquake and series of floods. 105 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,350 The idea that an unknown continent sank into the ocean, 106 00:06:07,350 --> 00:06:09,360 and the mystery surrounding its location 107 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:13,260 has generated debate for hundreds if not thousands of years. 108 00:06:13,260 --> 00:06:14,883 Most doubt it ever existed, 109 00:06:15,780 --> 00:06:18,090 but perhaps the most bizarre thing 110 00:06:18,090 --> 00:06:20,970 about the myth of Atlantis is its source, 111 00:06:20,970 --> 00:06:23,250 Plato, the greatest philosopher 112 00:06:23,250 --> 00:06:24,700 of the classical Greek world. 113 00:06:25,830 --> 00:06:29,190 Plato was born into the noble classes of Periclean Athens 114 00:06:29,190 --> 00:06:31,710 toward the end of its golden age of culture 115 00:06:31,710 --> 00:06:33,273 and worldly success. 116 00:06:34,500 --> 00:06:37,680 He grew up during the worst civil war in Greek history 117 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,750 between Athens and Sparta, 118 00:06:39,750 --> 00:06:43,413 and as a young man was educated by distinguished teachers. 119 00:06:44,700 --> 00:06:48,000 Following the defeat of Athens and the death of his mentor, 120 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:53,000 Socrates in 399 BC, Plato packed up and disappeared. 121 00:06:54,420 --> 00:06:55,890 For the next 12 years, 122 00:06:55,890 --> 00:06:58,320 we're told that he traveled the Mediterranean, 123 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,660 studying with the greatest minds of the age 124 00:07:00,660 --> 00:07:04,920 in places like Sicily, southern Italy, and Egypt. 125 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,100 Around age 40, he returned to Athens 126 00:07:08,100 --> 00:07:10,350 where he founded a school called The Academy, 127 00:07:10,350 --> 00:07:12,840 and taught great thinkers like Aristotle, 128 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,603 as well as authoring dozens of books on philosophy. 129 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,560 The fact he wrote about such a strange story, 130 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,660 and not just one, but two of his books 131 00:07:21,660 --> 00:07:23,850 is something of a puzzle in itself. 132 00:07:23,850 --> 00:07:26,580 He wasn't an entertainer for kids' birthday parties. 133 00:07:26,580 --> 00:07:28,440 He was a masterful thinker 134 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,540 who crafted some of the most complex works 135 00:07:30,540 --> 00:07:32,853 at the very foundation of Western thought. 136 00:07:34,260 --> 00:07:36,870 Vague notions of a lost civilization 137 00:07:36,870 --> 00:07:38,940 that sank beneath the waves 138 00:07:38,940 --> 00:07:41,310 have sparked innumerable interpretations 139 00:07:41,310 --> 00:07:43,650 from Jules Verne to Disney 140 00:07:43,650 --> 00:07:47,253 in the roughly 2,400 years since Plato's death. 141 00:07:48,270 --> 00:07:50,850 Whatever the Atlantis myth once represented 142 00:07:50,850 --> 00:07:54,870 has been washed from our minds by a tsunami of pop culture. 143 00:07:54,870 --> 00:07:57,420 - [Narrator] Atlantis, a land that harnessed the power 144 00:07:57,420 --> 00:07:59,490 of a volcano's fiery heart 145 00:07:59,490 --> 00:08:01,440 and learned to store the energy of the sun 146 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:02,850 in giant crystals. 147 00:08:02,850 --> 00:08:05,250 Then used them to create secret weapons 148 00:08:05,250 --> 00:08:06,690 whose disintegrating rays 149 00:08:06,690 --> 00:08:08,553 could destroy the rest of the world. 150 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,110 - All this bogus Atlantis imagery has also had a side effect 151 00:08:13,110 --> 00:08:16,170 spawning an almost obsessive interest by fringe theorists 152 00:08:16,170 --> 00:08:19,900 in uncovering a lost continent sunken beneath the ocean. 153 00:08:19,900 --> 00:08:22,567 (calming music) 154 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,830 Ignatius L. Donnelly's "Atlantis, 155 00:08:37,830 --> 00:08:41,100 the Antediluvian World" of 1882 156 00:08:41,100 --> 00:08:44,940 was among the first to propose a massive continent 157 00:08:44,940 --> 00:08:47,850 that sank into the depths of the Atlantic Ocean, 158 00:08:47,850 --> 00:08:50,370 the survivors of which allegedly fled 159 00:08:50,370 --> 00:08:52,530 to start new civilizations, 160 00:08:52,530 --> 00:08:55,353 everywhere from the Yucatan to Egypt. 161 00:08:56,850 --> 00:08:59,850 Donnelly surmised the Azores islands 162 00:08:59,850 --> 00:09:03,060 were the tips of this huge landmass, 163 00:09:03,060 --> 00:09:06,000 a theory that despite being incorrect 164 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,933 has somehow persisted to the present day in some circles. 165 00:09:11,550 --> 00:09:12,840 The fact that Plato borrowed 166 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,900 certain allegories and metaphors from older traditions 167 00:09:15,900 --> 00:09:19,440 has led a number of scholars to propose the myth of Atlantis 168 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,350 was inspired by a series of actual events, 169 00:09:22,350 --> 00:09:24,420 such as the powerful and deadly eruption 170 00:09:24,420 --> 00:09:26,190 of Thera on Santorini, 171 00:09:26,190 --> 00:09:29,283 the Sea People's Invasions, or even the Trojan War. 172 00:09:30,810 --> 00:09:33,360 And this is just the tip of the iceberg. 173 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,570 The location of Atlantis has been proclaimed 174 00:09:36,570 --> 00:09:38,013 across the globe. 175 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,790 With such a flood of wild goose chase theories, 176 00:09:41,790 --> 00:09:44,700 it's not surprising that most classicists today 177 00:09:44,700 --> 00:09:47,610 consider the Atlantis myth as simply an allegory 178 00:09:47,610 --> 00:09:50,940 invented by Plato to explain the dangers of hubris, 179 00:09:50,940 --> 00:09:53,313 bad government and military aggression. 180 00:09:54,630 --> 00:09:56,313 But not everyone agrees. 181 00:09:57,234 --> 00:09:58,500 (waves crashing) 182 00:09:58,500 --> 00:10:02,253 - Plato was the greatest philosopher of all times. 183 00:10:03,330 --> 00:10:08,330 My major question was why so rational a man 184 00:10:10,140 --> 00:10:12,093 was occupied writing myths? 185 00:10:13,830 --> 00:10:16,533 This is the beginning of the story 20 years ago. 186 00:10:17,610 --> 00:10:20,130 - [Jack] George Sarantitis does not believe 187 00:10:20,130 --> 00:10:21,930 in sinking continents. 188 00:10:21,930 --> 00:10:25,200 An independent researcher of the Ancient Greek world, 189 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,530 he's authored papers on a broad range of topics, 190 00:10:28,530 --> 00:10:31,320 combining his knowledge of the ancient language 191 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,740 with geography, sailing, and climate change 192 00:10:34,740 --> 00:10:37,140 to reconstruct pictures of the past 193 00:10:37,140 --> 00:10:40,143 that have confused scholars for centuries. 194 00:10:41,010 --> 00:10:42,840 His work on dating the Iliad 195 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,820 through reference to astronomy 196 00:10:44,820 --> 00:10:47,943 has even been recognized by the Greek Academy. 197 00:10:49,740 --> 00:10:53,430 Nearly 20 years ago, George turned his attention 198 00:10:53,430 --> 00:10:56,430 to the work of his favorite philosopher, Plato. 199 00:10:56,430 --> 00:10:59,010 - The main characteristic of Plato 200 00:10:59,010 --> 00:11:01,451 is to put you in the problem. 201 00:11:01,451 --> 00:11:05,034 It demands a very logical sequence. 202 00:11:05,958 --> 00:11:10,941 You cannot escape by doing things that do not fit, 203 00:11:11,946 --> 00:11:15,360 otherwise you don't have results. 204 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,490 - Unlike many other philosophers 205 00:11:17,490 --> 00:11:19,860 who sought to build perfect systems, 206 00:11:19,860 --> 00:11:22,560 few, if any of Plato's writings 207 00:11:22,560 --> 00:11:26,883 can be said to advocate a cut and dried set of positions. 208 00:11:28,020 --> 00:11:29,970 His dialogues often seem to have 209 00:11:29,970 --> 00:11:32,100 dissatisfaction and puzzlement, 210 00:11:32,100 --> 00:11:34,170 even with the doctrines he seems to be presenting 211 00:11:34,170 --> 00:11:36,000 for our consideration. 212 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,880 In this sense, his exact positions 213 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,550 often seem something of a mystery. 214 00:11:41,550 --> 00:11:45,630 - Plato was writing these myths 215 00:11:45,630 --> 00:11:48,990 for other highly educated people. 216 00:11:48,990 --> 00:11:53,990 What is the benefit for an educated person 217 00:11:54,630 --> 00:11:56,523 or a student of Plato, 218 00:11:57,570 --> 00:12:01,440 what could he take from a myth? 219 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:05,400 That was the puzzle that I would like to solve. 220 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,020 - [Jack] George began analyzing 221 00:12:07,020 --> 00:12:09,270 Plato's philosophical dialogues, 222 00:12:09,270 --> 00:12:12,240 looking for patterns in the way he wrote about myths, 223 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:16,080 and over time formulated a series of axioms. 224 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:17,550 The theory he developed, 225 00:12:17,550 --> 00:12:20,970 he titled, "Methodology of Mythology", 226 00:12:20,970 --> 00:12:24,120 a theory he formally presented in a series of papers 227 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,940 at conferences throughout the first decade 228 00:12:26,940 --> 00:12:28,860 of the 21st century. 229 00:12:28,860 --> 00:12:32,880 The theory suggests Plato deliberately constructed his myths 230 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,160 for use as a teaching tool, 231 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,310 and that consistent grammatical clues within them 232 00:12:38,310 --> 00:12:41,700 turn the stories into a kind of mental gymnasium 233 00:12:41,700 --> 00:12:43,770 for advanced students. 234 00:12:43,770 --> 00:12:48,770 - Gradually you see that there is a systematic writing 235 00:12:49,470 --> 00:12:50,520 of a myth. 236 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:55,050 There is a frequent appearance of axioms, 237 00:12:55,050 --> 00:12:59,280 or the axiom that you find from the beginning. 238 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,800 You might see it later on and later on, 239 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,316 and you can predict that you're going to 240 00:13:03,316 --> 00:13:04,920 find in front of you, 241 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:06,360 such a thing, 242 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:10,620 because there are also some warnings within the text. 243 00:13:10,620 --> 00:13:15,620 He might use two similar sounding words 244 00:13:17,100 --> 00:13:19,980 at the beginning and at the end of the paragraph, 245 00:13:19,980 --> 00:13:22,980 but with much different meaning. 246 00:13:22,980 --> 00:13:27,720 Do not underestimate any detail to find out the tricks, 247 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,620 the laws or axioms or systems 248 00:13:31,620 --> 00:13:35,130 the mythographer is following to construct the myth. 249 00:13:35,130 --> 00:13:40,130 It's a very high scientific document, 250 00:13:41,790 --> 00:13:46,790 and you can use it to teach either a child or an initiate. 251 00:13:48,300 --> 00:13:51,150 - The story of Atlantis is briefly summarized 252 00:13:51,150 --> 00:13:53,520 in a book called Timaeus. 253 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,160 The rest of this long dialogue then goes on 254 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,283 to focus on seemingly unrelated subjects. 255 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,570 Plato's later dialogue, Critias, on the other hand, 256 00:14:03,570 --> 00:14:05,970 is a description of the ancient conflict 257 00:14:05,970 --> 00:14:08,487 between the Athens of 9,600 BC 258 00:14:08,487 --> 00:14:11,070 and the hostile Atlantean empire, 259 00:14:11,070 --> 00:14:14,340 and it seems to have been cut off mid-sentence. 260 00:14:14,340 --> 00:14:16,890 Most believe that either the book was unfinished 261 00:14:16,890 --> 00:14:20,490 or that the rest has simply been lost to history. 262 00:14:20,490 --> 00:14:21,840 George collected several 263 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,960 of the best modern Greek and English translations 264 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,160 of Critias and Timaeus and began to dig into them. 265 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,700 Soon he noticed an unusual pattern. 266 00:14:32,700 --> 00:14:36,030 All the translations were in agreement for the most part, 267 00:14:36,030 --> 00:14:39,090 but certain areas of complex description 268 00:14:39,090 --> 00:14:41,970 were often rendered completely differently 269 00:14:41,970 --> 00:14:44,850 with various degrees of incompatible, 270 00:14:44,850 --> 00:14:47,220 even conflicting logic. 271 00:14:47,220 --> 00:14:51,220 - When you see so many different meanings 272 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:56,643 coming out of different translations, 273 00:14:57,900 --> 00:14:59,786 something is wrong. 274 00:14:59,786 --> 00:15:04,036 (George speaking Ancient Greek) 275 00:15:06,210 --> 00:15:08,640 - [Jack] He went back to to the source documents, 276 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,400 the Ancient Greek texts themselves, 277 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,160 and began to compare the modern translations 278 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,113 to Plato's original words. 279 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,350 - One of the very first things 280 00:15:19,350 --> 00:15:24,063 is that I had read Atlantic Ocean. 281 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,040 There is no Atlantic Ocean in the ancient text. 282 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:30,930 - [Jack] We can see the same thing 283 00:15:30,930 --> 00:15:33,660 in many common English translations. 284 00:15:33,660 --> 00:15:36,690 For these histories tell of a mighty power, 285 00:15:36,690 --> 00:15:39,300 which unprovoked, made an expedition 286 00:15:39,300 --> 00:15:41,820 against the whole of Europe and Asia, 287 00:15:41,820 --> 00:15:44,340 and to which your city put an end. 288 00:15:44,340 --> 00:15:48,090 This power came forth out of the Atlantic Ocean, 289 00:15:48,090 --> 00:15:52,200 for in those days the Atlantic was navigable. 290 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,220 - It says Atlantic Pelagos. 291 00:15:56,740 --> 00:15:59,610 "Pelagos" and "ocean" have no connection at all. 292 00:15:59,610 --> 00:16:02,193 They have much different properties. 293 00:16:03,030 --> 00:16:05,100 - [Jack] To get to Atlantis from Greece, 294 00:16:05,100 --> 00:16:08,130 you had to cross a large body of water, 295 00:16:08,130 --> 00:16:12,150 previously translated as Atlantic Ocean, 296 00:16:12,150 --> 00:16:16,440 but the actual Ancient Greek says "Atlantic Pelagos" - 297 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,990 something more like the Aegean Sea, 298 00:16:18,990 --> 00:16:21,870 partially enclosed by land. 299 00:16:21,870 --> 00:16:24,030 This meant something important. 300 00:16:24,030 --> 00:16:26,610 Atlantis couldn't possibly be 301 00:16:26,610 --> 00:16:30,030 where earlier researchers like Ignatius Donnelly 302 00:16:30,030 --> 00:16:31,203 had said it was. 303 00:16:32,580 --> 00:16:36,030 But if Plato wasn't referring to the Atlantic Ocean, 304 00:16:36,030 --> 00:16:39,060 what was this mysterious Atlantic Pelagos 305 00:16:39,060 --> 00:16:40,830 that led to Atlantis, 306 00:16:40,830 --> 00:16:44,010 and were there other aspects of the Ancient Greek 307 00:16:44,010 --> 00:16:47,160 that were being lost in translation? 308 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:48,810 - It's like mathematics. 309 00:16:48,810 --> 00:16:53,100 If you are using wrong data, you have a wrong result. 310 00:16:53,100 --> 00:16:56,190 A lot of different translators 311 00:16:56,190 --> 00:17:01,170 were not able to translate correctly the ancient text, 312 00:17:01,170 --> 00:17:06,150 and this was the spark and the main cause 313 00:17:07,110 --> 00:17:12,110 to push me to start to retranslate the whole two books, 314 00:17:13,488 --> 00:17:16,830 Timaeus and Critias, from the beginning. 315 00:17:16,830 --> 00:17:18,270 - [Jack] George proceeded to spend 316 00:17:18,270 --> 00:17:21,030 over two years and 4,000 hours 317 00:17:21,030 --> 00:17:25,020 working with Athens University philologist, Eva Dakia, 318 00:17:25,020 --> 00:17:28,560 to formulate new translations of these two books 319 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,870 to ensure he was correctly verifying 320 00:17:30,870 --> 00:17:33,660 every rule of syntax and grammar. 321 00:17:33,660 --> 00:17:36,150 - The same word on the sixth century 322 00:17:36,150 --> 00:17:39,840 might have different meaning on the fifth century, 323 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,450 different on the fourth century, different. 324 00:17:42,450 --> 00:17:46,920 You need the correct meaning of every word, 325 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,880 phrase, line and paragraph. 326 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,210 Otherwise you are reading a wrong story. 327 00:17:54,210 --> 00:17:57,930 - [Jack] Once he had the words, then he rebuilt the phrases, 328 00:17:57,930 --> 00:17:59,760 then the sentences, 329 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,560 because a changed sentence 330 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,840 will change the meaning of a paragraph, 331 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,753 which can alter the meaning of an entire book. 332 00:18:07,770 --> 00:18:10,740 George began to see that Plato's geography 333 00:18:10,740 --> 00:18:14,790 was far more specific than he or anyone else 334 00:18:14,790 --> 00:18:16,263 had realized before. 335 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:21,750 Bit by bit the pieces of the map began to take form 336 00:18:21,750 --> 00:18:24,123 based on the meaning of key words. 337 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:29,280 Besides "Okeanos," Greek has three main words 338 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,343 for large bodies of water we would call "seas." 339 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,720 The Mediterranean Sea is a "thalassa." 340 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,090 The Aegean is a "pelagos," 341 00:18:39,090 --> 00:18:42,183 a sea that encloses islands like an embrace. 342 00:18:43,132 --> 00:18:46,740 "Pontos" - what we call in English, the Black Sea, 343 00:18:46,740 --> 00:18:50,220 Greeks called the "Euxenos Pontos." 344 00:18:50,220 --> 00:18:54,840 - And a pontos, it's not a pelagos, and it's not an ocean, 345 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,510 but in all the translations, 346 00:18:57,510 --> 00:19:02,190 all these are named ocean or sea. 347 00:19:02,190 --> 00:19:04,110 - [Jack] Through close analysis of the grammar 348 00:19:04,110 --> 00:19:05,850 in Critias and Timaeus, 349 00:19:05,850 --> 00:19:09,390 George was also able to identify and define 350 00:19:09,390 --> 00:19:13,020 three key terms that had previously been translated 351 00:19:13,020 --> 00:19:17,400 interchangeably as island, to great confusion. 352 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:22,400 A continent, an island, and the sacred center island 353 00:19:22,410 --> 00:19:24,810 of the Atlantean capital city. 354 00:19:24,810 --> 00:19:27,810 The size and concentric-ringed shape of which 355 00:19:27,810 --> 00:19:31,683 are explained in great, albeit confusing detail. 356 00:19:33,060 --> 00:19:35,317 Tradition has it that the phrase, 357 00:19:35,317 --> 00:19:39,180 "Let no one ignorant of geometry enter here" 358 00:19:39,180 --> 00:19:42,720 was carved above the door to Plato's Academy. 359 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,410 If he included complex geometrical diagrams, 360 00:19:46,410 --> 00:19:51,210 very specific geographic terms and directional orientations, 361 00:19:51,210 --> 00:19:55,260 we have to ask, "Why are they there?" 362 00:19:55,260 --> 00:19:57,815 - If it was about a fairy tale, 363 00:19:57,815 --> 00:20:00,240 you don't need to give such details. 364 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:05,240 It was instructions how to approach Atlantis, 365 00:20:05,820 --> 00:20:09,760 start entering the Pillars of Hercules, 366 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,330 which is characterized as a mouth 367 00:20:12,330 --> 00:20:17,100 where the larger cavity is the Mediterranean 368 00:20:17,100 --> 00:20:21,960 and the smaller cavity is an Atlantic Pelagos. 369 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,500 After you pass these Pillars of Hercules, 370 00:20:25,500 --> 00:20:27,870 you are in front of an Atlantic Pelagos, 371 00:20:27,870 --> 00:20:30,762 and then you have in front of you an island, 372 00:20:30,762 --> 00:20:32,344 a very large one, 373 00:20:32,344 --> 00:20:36,660 and he characterizes it as well as a continent. 374 00:20:36,660 --> 00:20:41,660 For this continent, he describes a semi-curved shape of land 375 00:20:42,300 --> 00:20:45,960 larger than Asia and Libya in length, 376 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,740 where either by going through the continent 377 00:20:49,740 --> 00:20:52,740 or through islands, step by step, 378 00:20:52,740 --> 00:20:54,993 somewhere in the middle of this curve, 379 00:20:56,070 --> 00:21:00,583 you can find something like a harbor, then a "poros," 380 00:21:00,583 --> 00:21:04,740 a narrow passage to pass into another pelagos 381 00:21:04,740 --> 00:21:09,000 after you have left behind you a pontos - different sea - 382 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,940 Then you are in front of an island 383 00:21:11,940 --> 00:21:15,990 which is located in the middle of this landmass 384 00:21:15,990 --> 00:21:18,420 of the island continent. 385 00:21:18,420 --> 00:21:22,683 And then suddenly I had a new reality in my mind. 386 00:21:24,180 --> 00:21:27,930 - [Jack] According to Plato, to get to Atlantis by sea, 387 00:21:27,930 --> 00:21:31,143 one first had to pass the Pillars of Heracles. 388 00:21:32,100 --> 00:21:36,270 So not surprisingly, George's first question was, 389 00:21:36,270 --> 00:21:38,313 where are the Pillars of Heracles? 390 00:21:41,940 --> 00:21:44,460 The answer, ever since Rome conquered 391 00:21:44,460 --> 00:21:46,200 the entire Mediterranean, 392 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,480 has been that the pillars are located 393 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,280 near the Strait of Gibraltar, 394 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,610 perhaps with one in Europe and one in Africa, 395 00:21:53,610 --> 00:21:56,760 but this was not always the case. 396 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,710 When George began to dig, 397 00:21:58,710 --> 00:22:02,580 he found there had been considerable confusion and dispute 398 00:22:02,580 --> 00:22:06,960 among ancient authors over precisely what and where 399 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,630 the Pillars of Heracles were. 400 00:22:09,630 --> 00:22:12,810 - As average person, I knew that the Pillars of Heracles 401 00:22:12,810 --> 00:22:14,943 are somewhere in Gibraltar. 402 00:22:15,810 --> 00:22:18,190 But Plato is giving you instructions 403 00:22:19,050 --> 00:22:22,770 and he's giving a different direction 404 00:22:22,770 --> 00:22:24,873 where to find the Pillars of Heracles. 405 00:22:26,310 --> 00:22:29,730 You have to study the text very hard 406 00:22:29,730 --> 00:22:33,300 to understand where this place is. 407 00:22:33,300 --> 00:22:35,610 - While examining the differences in descriptions 408 00:22:35,610 --> 00:22:37,080 between the two books, 409 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,900 George realized Greek grammar 410 00:22:39,900 --> 00:22:43,860 was the key to narrowing in on the location of the pillars 411 00:22:43,860 --> 00:22:47,370 and the mysterious Atlantic Pelagos. 412 00:22:47,370 --> 00:22:48,960 There's a subtle difference 413 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,800 in how language is used in Timaeus versus Critias. 414 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,020 The closest parallel in English might be the way 415 00:22:55,020 --> 00:22:58,650 we use this versus that, or here and there. 416 00:22:58,650 --> 00:23:01,140 "This here" means something proximate, 417 00:23:01,140 --> 00:23:03,960 "that there" means something distant. 418 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,410 The Egyptian priest speaks of "this here Libya," 419 00:23:07,410 --> 00:23:11,340 referring to a place that's adjacent to his location 420 00:23:11,340 --> 00:23:13,088 in the Nile Delta Sais. 421 00:23:13,088 --> 00:23:15,270 This grammatical nuance can be used 422 00:23:15,270 --> 00:23:18,270 to pin down relative locations in the story 423 00:23:18,270 --> 00:23:21,510 based on who was speaking and where that person was 424 00:23:21,510 --> 00:23:22,743 at that moment in time. 425 00:23:24,360 --> 00:23:27,750 The writings refer to how mighty was the force 426 00:23:27,750 --> 00:23:30,390 that marched in arrogance at the same time 427 00:23:30,390 --> 00:23:33,000 against all of Europe and Asia, 428 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,333 that campaigned out of the Atlantic Pelagos. 429 00:23:37,830 --> 00:23:40,230 The fact that the Atlanteans campaigned 430 00:23:40,230 --> 00:23:43,320 out of the Atlantic Pelagos suggests 431 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,053 it is inside the Pillars of Heracles, 432 00:23:46,890 --> 00:23:50,220 that they demarcate a kind of regional border, 433 00:23:50,220 --> 00:23:55,023 and that Europe and Asia are on the outside of the pillars. 434 00:23:56,220 --> 00:23:59,490 - If the grammar and syntax was correct, 435 00:23:59,490 --> 00:24:04,490 the two Pillars of Heracles both should exist within Africa. 436 00:24:06,390 --> 00:24:07,503 - [Jack] But where? 437 00:24:11,460 --> 00:24:13,560 Known as the father of history, 438 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,200 the Ancient Greek author, Herodotus, 439 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,683 wrote his famous work a generation before Plato. 440 00:24:20,910 --> 00:24:23,520 It was widely known throughout the Greek world 441 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,270 for the travels he'd undertaken all around the Mediterranean 442 00:24:27,270 --> 00:24:30,273 reporting on the kingdoms and people he discovered. 443 00:24:31,890 --> 00:24:34,290 In book four of his history, 444 00:24:34,290 --> 00:24:37,020 he describes the voyage of a Samian ship 445 00:24:37,020 --> 00:24:38,910 that was blown off course, 446 00:24:38,910 --> 00:24:42,423 and made landfall on the Libyan coast at modern Bomba. 447 00:24:43,890 --> 00:24:46,260 They then set sail for Egypt, 448 00:24:46,260 --> 00:24:49,020 but a powerful easterly wind drove them 449 00:24:49,020 --> 00:24:50,700 in the opposite direction, 450 00:24:50,700 --> 00:24:53,470 all the way through the Pillars of Heracles 451 00:24:54,330 --> 00:24:57,003 to a place called Tartessos. 452 00:24:57,930 --> 00:25:01,860 The location of Tartessos has been recently ascribed 453 00:25:01,860 --> 00:25:03,810 to southern Spain. 454 00:25:03,810 --> 00:25:07,320 However, the dictionary of Greek and Roman geography 455 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,643 notes that its location was uncertain among the ancients. 456 00:25:13,590 --> 00:25:16,653 George soon saw the problem in another light. 457 00:25:17,490 --> 00:25:21,690 A long time sailor, he did some quick math and realized 458 00:25:21,690 --> 00:25:25,410 that at the rates of sea travel in Herodotus's era, 459 00:25:25,410 --> 00:25:28,050 the Samian ship's journey to Gibraltar 460 00:25:28,050 --> 00:25:31,710 would've taken somewhere between 20 and 30 days 461 00:25:31,710 --> 00:25:35,070 and involved sailing hundreds of kilometers northward, 462 00:25:35,070 --> 00:25:37,050 completely around Tunisia, 463 00:25:37,050 --> 00:25:40,470 all the time without making landfall. 464 00:25:40,470 --> 00:25:43,920 - It's impossible to have made this journey 465 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,480 in the given time. 466 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,690 Gibraltar could not be the place 467 00:25:48,690 --> 00:25:51,270 where the Pillars of Heracles were. 468 00:25:51,270 --> 00:25:54,510 - [Jack] There was another much more logical location 469 00:25:54,510 --> 00:25:57,480 for the ancient Pillars of Heracles, 470 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,333 the Gulf of Gabes in modern Tunisia. 471 00:26:01,380 --> 00:26:03,510 A journey to the Gulf of Gabes 472 00:26:03,510 --> 00:26:06,180 would've taken only six to 10 days 473 00:26:06,180 --> 00:26:09,780 instead of the 20 or 30 to Gibraltar. 474 00:26:09,780 --> 00:26:13,710 But if the Gulf of Gabes was where the Pillars of Heracles 475 00:26:13,710 --> 00:26:16,350 were in Plato's era, 476 00:26:16,350 --> 00:26:21,240 where was the Atlantic Pelagos that they supposedly led to? 477 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,510 - If every word he's using 478 00:26:24,510 --> 00:26:28,713 has been translated in your mind correctly, 479 00:26:29,550 --> 00:26:31,623 you will find the right way. 480 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,700 - [Jack] While today the linkage to inland Africa 481 00:26:35,700 --> 00:26:37,290 is blocked up, 482 00:26:37,290 --> 00:26:40,530 the Gulf once connected the Mediterranean Sea 483 00:26:40,530 --> 00:26:43,563 to a large series of salt lakes called chotts. 484 00:26:44,730 --> 00:26:47,070 Today, these chotts are only navigable 485 00:26:47,070 --> 00:26:49,020 by the smallest of boats, 486 00:26:49,020 --> 00:26:53,250 and even then, only during Tunisia's annual wet season. 487 00:26:53,250 --> 00:26:56,190 This positioning for the Pillars of Heracles 488 00:26:56,190 --> 00:26:59,460 and the Atlantic Pelagos starts to make sense 489 00:26:59,460 --> 00:27:03,720 if we look back at Plato's statement that "At that time 490 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,123 the there-pelagos was navigable." 491 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,520 Plato seems to be saying that at the time of Atlantis, 492 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:16,520 the chotts were once a larger sea leading to inland Africa 493 00:27:16,740 --> 00:27:20,340 and deep enough to be sailed by ships, 494 00:27:20,340 --> 00:27:24,723 but that in his own time, the pelagos had silted up. 495 00:27:27,150 --> 00:27:30,090 By contrast, the Roman era location 496 00:27:30,090 --> 00:27:33,390 of the Pillars of Heracles at the Strait of Gibraltar 497 00:27:33,390 --> 00:27:35,943 was never impassable to ships. 498 00:27:37,020 --> 00:27:41,640 That waterway hasn't closed up since the Mediterranean Sea 499 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:46,290 refilled around 4.8 million years ago. 500 00:27:46,290 --> 00:27:49,380 - Gibraltar could not be the place 501 00:27:49,380 --> 00:27:51,720 where the Pillars of Heracles were. 502 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,720 If you are able to catch this detail, 503 00:27:57,510 --> 00:27:58,923 then you get the picture. 504 00:27:59,910 --> 00:28:01,740 - [Jack] The new picture meant something 505 00:28:01,740 --> 00:28:03,960 startling and important. 506 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,660 The map of the world looked different 507 00:28:06,660 --> 00:28:08,343 in the age of Atlantis. 508 00:28:09,630 --> 00:28:13,473 - Atlantis should be the west part of Africa, 509 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:15,353 and only there. 510 00:28:17,190 --> 00:28:18,990 - The lost continent of myth 511 00:28:18,990 --> 00:28:21,723 had been hiding in plain sight all along. 512 00:28:23,250 --> 00:28:25,380 How hard was it really to believe that a place 513 00:28:25,380 --> 00:28:27,540 that contained the Atlas Mountains 514 00:28:27,540 --> 00:28:29,280 bordered the Atlantic Ocean 515 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,330 and contained a kingdom 516 00:28:30,330 --> 00:28:32,970 that Herodotus had once called the Atlantes 517 00:28:32,970 --> 00:28:36,420 had been called Atlantis in prehistoric times. 518 00:28:36,420 --> 00:28:38,730 But there's a much bigger problem. 519 00:28:38,730 --> 00:28:40,980 Most of Western Africa today is covered 520 00:28:40,980 --> 00:28:42,990 by lifeless Sahara desert. 521 00:28:42,990 --> 00:28:45,780 So even if the geography seemed to fit, 522 00:28:45,780 --> 00:28:48,480 how could any of the story be true in the first place? 523 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,253 - The text contains the truth. 524 00:28:51,319 --> 00:28:53,986 (calming music) 525 00:29:03,965 --> 00:29:06,715 (dramatic music) 526 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,600 - Today, the Sahara is an inhospitable expanse, 527 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,090 but starting at the dawn of the Holocene, 528 00:29:15,090 --> 00:29:18,600 and down until as recently as 3000 BC, 529 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,330 it was a lush green landscape 530 00:29:21,330 --> 00:29:25,440 supporting an enormous array of animals and fish 531 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,350 hunted by our ancestors. 532 00:29:28,350 --> 00:29:31,923 Today we call this period the Green Sahara. 533 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,820 What did this world actually look like 534 00:29:35,820 --> 00:29:38,493 and was it anything like the world of Plato's myth? 535 00:29:39,382 --> 00:29:42,930 (storm rumbling) 536 00:29:42,930 --> 00:29:45,180 Cyclic changes altered the pattern 537 00:29:45,180 --> 00:29:47,460 of the African monsoon rains, 538 00:29:47,460 --> 00:29:50,460 causing them to intensify and move northward 539 00:29:50,460 --> 00:29:53,250 around 11,000 BC. 540 00:29:53,250 --> 00:29:56,730 These powerful monsoons not only replaced desert 541 00:29:56,730 --> 00:29:59,700 with vegetations and large animals, 542 00:29:59,700 --> 00:30:04,050 they also transformed the few tiny lakes across North Africa 543 00:30:04,050 --> 00:30:07,080 from Clark Kent into Superman. 544 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,200 More than 12,000 lakes have been identified, 545 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,290 likely covering over a million square kilometers 546 00:30:13,290 --> 00:30:15,063 at their maximum extent. 547 00:30:15,990 --> 00:30:19,050 Hyper-arid desert was replaced by savannah 548 00:30:19,050 --> 00:30:20,430 and swiftly inhabited 549 00:30:20,430 --> 00:30:23,040 by prehistoric people who roamed there 550 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,633 for thousands of years. 551 00:30:25,740 --> 00:30:28,980 Archeologists have corroborated the tales told 552 00:30:28,980 --> 00:30:32,610 by ancient rock art with finds of bone fish hooks 553 00:30:32,610 --> 00:30:35,283 and harpoons in the middle of the desert. 554 00:30:37,350 --> 00:30:40,350 Five massive river systems flowed out 555 00:30:40,350 --> 00:30:43,380 from the central mountain ranges of Africa, 556 00:30:43,380 --> 00:30:47,370 linking vast mosaics of tributaries and wetlands. 557 00:30:47,370 --> 00:30:50,100 This allowed aquatic species to travel, 558 00:30:50,100 --> 00:30:54,553 including not just fish, but crocodiles and hippopotami. 559 00:30:56,277 --> 00:30:59,880 In 2020, a research team confirmed crocodiles 560 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:04,880 are still living in a rocky plateau in southern Mauritania, 561 00:31:04,890 --> 00:31:08,163 a place now utterly surrounded by desert. 562 00:31:09,390 --> 00:31:13,020 The waterways of the Green Sahara once extended here 563 00:31:13,020 --> 00:31:14,973 all the way from the Nile River. 564 00:31:16,530 --> 00:31:19,230 For a moment, if we close our eyes, 565 00:31:19,230 --> 00:31:22,050 we can imagine a map of two continents 566 00:31:22,050 --> 00:31:23,523 at the dawn of the Holocene, 567 00:31:24,420 --> 00:31:28,950 a North Africa divided by seas, lakes and rivers 568 00:31:28,950 --> 00:31:31,563 into Libya and Atlantis. 569 00:31:33,750 --> 00:31:38,280 Was this the real world Plato's myth was communicating 570 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,953 a distant memory of in Timaeus and Critias? 571 00:31:43,860 --> 00:31:46,860 It would certainly answer a lot of questions. 572 00:31:46,860 --> 00:31:50,133 Climate facts make George's theory plausible, 573 00:31:51,300 --> 00:31:53,283 but what about the rest of the myth? 574 00:31:54,570 --> 00:31:57,720 Let's see if we can reassemble the pieces 575 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,133 of the Atlantis puzzle. 576 00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:07,380 George's work meant the Atlantis story 577 00:32:07,380 --> 00:32:10,353 could no longer be dismissed as complete fantasy. 578 00:32:12,510 --> 00:32:14,940 If the myth isn't all made up, 579 00:32:14,940 --> 00:32:17,010 then we have our work cut out for us 580 00:32:17,010 --> 00:32:21,393 to determine which elements might be false and which true. 581 00:32:23,910 --> 00:32:27,300 Our tale begins around 9,600 BC, 582 00:32:27,300 --> 00:32:29,583 at the dawn of the Green Sahara period. 583 00:32:30,510 --> 00:32:32,340 It's also roughly the same point 584 00:32:32,340 --> 00:32:35,220 at which modern scientists mark the beginning 585 00:32:35,220 --> 00:32:37,080 of the Holocene epoch, 586 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,790 a geologic time period 587 00:32:38,790 --> 00:32:41,580 that continues down to the present day. 588 00:32:41,580 --> 00:32:43,590 We're told the Atlanteans of this era 589 00:32:43,590 --> 00:32:48,030 initiated a great war spreading eastward across Africa 590 00:32:48,030 --> 00:32:50,223 and conquering everything in their path. 591 00:32:51,180 --> 00:32:54,140 Who were these mysterious Atlanteans? 592 00:32:56,139 --> 00:32:58,890 Herodotus writes an enigmatic phrase in his history 593 00:32:58,890 --> 00:33:01,980 when he speaks of both eastern and western Ethiopians 594 00:33:01,980 --> 00:33:05,130 who dwelled at the extreme ends of the African continent. 595 00:33:05,130 --> 00:33:06,570 Homer too in the Odyssey 596 00:33:06,570 --> 00:33:09,960 writes of "the Ethiopians who dwell split in two, 597 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,293 some who dwell where the sun rises, and some where it sets." 598 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,520 The root of the Ancient Greek "Aethiopia" 599 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,930 comes from "aitho," burn, and "ops," face. 600 00:33:21,930 --> 00:33:24,903 The land of those with darkened faces. 601 00:33:26,310 --> 00:33:28,680 The Ancient Greeks seemed to believe 602 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,510 that there were two major groups 603 00:33:30,510 --> 00:33:33,330 of dark-skinned North African people, 604 00:33:33,330 --> 00:33:36,753 somehow divided by an east-west split. 605 00:33:37,980 --> 00:33:41,490 Were the dark-skinned inhabitants of Mauritania 606 00:33:41,490 --> 00:33:43,320 from Herodotus's era, 607 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,680 the direct descendants of the mythic Atlanteans, 608 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,810 and were these the kind of people 609 00:33:48,810 --> 00:33:52,440 Plato had in mind when he wrote his books? 610 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,110 They just might be a hidden reality 611 00:33:55,110 --> 00:33:58,650 behind these descriptions from Ancient Greek writers. 612 00:33:58,650 --> 00:34:02,160 Current linguistic research suggests the people who spoke 613 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,070 the two major North African language groups 614 00:34:05,070 --> 00:34:09,090 did in fact split some time in the deep past. 615 00:34:09,090 --> 00:34:11,370 They were likely isolated from one another 616 00:34:11,370 --> 00:34:13,710 during a long dry period, 617 00:34:13,710 --> 00:34:17,520 and then reconnected during the Green Sahara. 618 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,650 They differed not only in language, 619 00:34:19,650 --> 00:34:21,570 but in their ways of life, 620 00:34:21,570 --> 00:34:24,480 and so much so that researchers have called them 621 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,183 the Land People and the Water People. 622 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,780 The water people spoke the language group 623 00:34:30,780 --> 00:34:33,090 known as Nilo-Saharan. 624 00:34:33,090 --> 00:34:36,870 The expansion of waterways when the Green Sahara began 625 00:34:36,870 --> 00:34:40,260 led to rapid north and westward outmigration 626 00:34:40,260 --> 00:34:41,313 of these people. 627 00:34:42,810 --> 00:34:46,230 They hunted fish, crocodiles and hippos 628 00:34:46,230 --> 00:34:49,593 using barbed harpoons and bone fish hooks. 629 00:34:51,570 --> 00:34:53,700 The land people, by contrast, 630 00:34:53,700 --> 00:34:57,630 were savannah hunters who used bows and arrows. 631 00:34:57,630 --> 00:35:01,290 They spoke the language family called Niger-Congo, 632 00:35:01,290 --> 00:35:03,000 which seems to have originated 633 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,060 in the region of modern day Mauritania. 634 00:35:06,060 --> 00:35:09,690 They migrated south and eastward across the Sahara 635 00:35:09,690 --> 00:35:11,190 during the wet period. 636 00:35:11,190 --> 00:35:14,553 Evidence of their presence spans Northern Africa. 637 00:35:16,530 --> 00:35:21,090 Climate and human migration might actually support the idea 638 00:35:21,090 --> 00:35:22,830 of an Atlantean people, 639 00:35:22,830 --> 00:35:25,680 but were epic battles like those in the myth 640 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,113 really a feature of the early Holocene? 641 00:35:34,050 --> 00:35:35,520 It's tempting to see the myth 642 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,590 of an aggressive Atlantean empire 643 00:35:37,590 --> 00:35:39,480 that took over North Africa 644 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,620 as based on the expansion of Niger-Congo speaking hunters 645 00:35:43,620 --> 00:35:44,913 in the early Holocene. 646 00:35:45,810 --> 00:35:47,370 The time period was similar 647 00:35:47,370 --> 00:35:49,623 and so was the general direction of movement. 648 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,140 Perhaps the cultural memories of the Nile Valley people 649 00:35:55,140 --> 00:35:57,090 who encountered these intruders 650 00:35:57,090 --> 00:35:59,040 have found their way down to us 651 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,653 in a mythical reconstruction of events. 652 00:36:02,970 --> 00:36:06,333 This is however complete speculation. 653 00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:13,170 While the true origins of the mythical Atlantean war 654 00:36:13,170 --> 00:36:14,820 may be in doubt, 655 00:36:14,820 --> 00:36:18,210 what is not in doubt is that wars were indeed 656 00:36:18,210 --> 00:36:21,093 taking place in Ancient North Africa. 657 00:36:24,731 --> 00:36:27,510 Jebel Sahaba, Northern Sedan, 658 00:36:27,510 --> 00:36:29,820 a prehistoric massacre took place here 659 00:36:29,820 --> 00:36:34,820 between two different cultural groups around 11,000 BC. 660 00:36:35,103 --> 00:36:39,000 In the 1960s, archeologists first uncovered 661 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,510 a large number of skeletons with stone arrowheads 662 00:36:42,510 --> 00:36:43,473 embedded in them. 663 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:49,560 These attacks may have taken place over months or even years 664 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,453 in a kind of ongoing war. 665 00:36:52,770 --> 00:36:55,650 The closer we get to the early Holocene, 666 00:36:55,650 --> 00:36:59,130 the more evidence accumulates for armed conflict 667 00:36:59,130 --> 00:37:00,990 by large groups. 668 00:37:00,990 --> 00:37:03,480 Cave paintings show teams of archers 669 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,633 confronting one another, attacking or fleeing. 670 00:37:09,690 --> 00:37:14,100 Did a real Atlantean army march east across North Africa 671 00:37:14,100 --> 00:37:16,890 11,600 years ago, 672 00:37:16,890 --> 00:37:20,910 annihilating resistance with barrages of stone-tipped arrows 673 00:37:20,910 --> 00:37:24,033 and seizing territory all the way to the Nile? 674 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,000 Or might the wars of the myth be a projection 675 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,533 from Plato's own time? 676 00:37:32,590 --> 00:37:34,800 (crowds cheering) 677 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,160 Plato was no stranger to violence. 678 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,440 His childhood was spent in the shadow 679 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,783 of the worst civil war in Greek history. 680 00:37:43,620 --> 00:37:47,520 Athens and its allies were engaged in bloody combat 681 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,690 with Sparta and its allies from 431 BC 682 00:37:51,690 --> 00:37:54,390 up until he was six or seven years old. 683 00:37:54,390 --> 00:37:56,220 A brief peace ensued, 684 00:37:56,220 --> 00:38:00,510 but by the time Plato reached adolescence in 415 BC, 685 00:38:00,510 --> 00:38:02,613 war had broken out again. 686 00:38:03,870 --> 00:38:06,450 It lasted another 11 years, 687 00:38:06,450 --> 00:38:10,980 during which time Plato himself saw military service 688 00:38:10,980 --> 00:38:15,090 before Athens finally succumbed to a Spartan blockade 689 00:38:15,090 --> 00:38:16,383 and had to surrender. 690 00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:21,270 Some see a parallel between the historical Athens 691 00:38:21,270 --> 00:38:23,730 and the one in the Atlantis myth. 692 00:38:23,730 --> 00:38:26,700 The Peloponnesian War of Plato's childhood 693 00:38:26,700 --> 00:38:29,850 was triggered by a Spartan ally's attack 694 00:38:29,850 --> 00:38:33,483 and the Athenians saw themselves as being on the defensive. 695 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,640 In the Atlantis myth, the Atlanteans begin as the aggressors 696 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,813 and are righteously repulsed by the Athens of 9,600 BC. 697 00:38:43,740 --> 00:38:45,990 The second phase of the Peloponnesian War 698 00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:48,270 saw Athens as the aggressor 699 00:38:48,270 --> 00:38:51,663 when they attacked Syracuse in Sicily by sea. 700 00:38:52,770 --> 00:38:56,550 In the myth, Athens also became the aggressor 701 00:38:56,550 --> 00:38:58,950 when they marched all the way to the gates 702 00:38:58,950 --> 00:39:00,813 of the Atlantean capital city. 703 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,300 The complete destruction 704 00:39:03,300 --> 00:39:06,000 of the Athenian military in the myth 705 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,590 might mirror the total loss 706 00:39:07,590 --> 00:39:11,130 of the Athenian army in the assault on Syracuse 707 00:39:11,130 --> 00:39:14,013 during the second phase of the Peloponnesian War. 708 00:39:15,384 --> 00:39:18,134 (dramatic music) 709 00:39:20,625 --> 00:39:24,458 Was the Atlantean war real, total fabrication, 710 00:39:26,010 --> 00:39:30,183 or a blend of myth, history and cultural memory? 711 00:39:31,470 --> 00:39:34,590 - He's giving this in a Platonic way. 712 00:39:34,590 --> 00:39:39,590 You have to decipher, you have to extract from the text. 713 00:39:40,530 --> 00:39:44,160 - Plato is our only source for Atlantis. 714 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,670 Solely by proving or refuting his story, 715 00:39:47,670 --> 00:39:49,023 can we get to the truth. 716 00:39:49,980 --> 00:39:54,060 Unfortunately, archeological evidence is scarce 717 00:39:54,060 --> 00:39:58,320 and the region as a whole is in general poorly studied. 718 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,320 If we want to know whether story elements 719 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,410 like the vast Atlantean trade networks were real, 720 00:40:04,410 --> 00:40:07,860 we have to look at analogous evidence from other areas 721 00:40:07,860 --> 00:40:10,083 of North Africa and the Mediterranean. 722 00:40:17,697 --> 00:40:20,697 (ship horn blaring) 723 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,010 International trade is 724 00:40:23,010 --> 00:40:26,700 something we consider a hallmark of modern globalization. 725 00:40:26,700 --> 00:40:28,770 The idea that an Atlantean society 726 00:40:28,770 --> 00:40:32,880 was trading across continents more than 11,000 years ago 727 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,150 seems impossible, but it's not. 728 00:40:36,150 --> 00:40:39,690 8,000 year old DNA from an underwater site 729 00:40:39,690 --> 00:40:44,690 off the shore of the UK has generated a strange revelation. 730 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,860 Hunter-gatherers were consuming 731 00:40:46,860 --> 00:40:49,140 two types of domesticated wheat here, 732 00:40:49,140 --> 00:40:53,160 long before anyone in Britain began cultivating grain. 733 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,850 These wheat species have no wild ancestors 734 00:40:56,850 --> 00:40:57,960 in northern Europe. 735 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,570 They weren't grown locally. 736 00:41:00,570 --> 00:41:04,140 They arrived from the Middle East through a trade network 737 00:41:04,140 --> 00:41:07,443 spanning the entire European continent. 738 00:41:09,240 --> 00:41:14,163 Continent-sweeping trade networks existed in the Stone Age, 739 00:41:17,460 --> 00:41:20,010 But what about ancient seafaring? 740 00:41:20,010 --> 00:41:23,340 If an Atlantean army really attacked Europe, 741 00:41:23,340 --> 00:41:26,760 they had to do more than cross lakes and rivers. 742 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,739 They had to cross the open sea itself. 743 00:41:29,739 --> 00:41:32,489 (waves crashing) 744 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,750 Experts often tell us that Egypt 745 00:41:42,750 --> 00:41:45,783 was the world's first great maritime society, 746 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:48,840 and it's been proclaimed 747 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:53,840 that massive 60-ton Egyptian vessels from 1800 BC 748 00:41:53,975 --> 00:41:56,133 were the world's oldest seagoing boats. 749 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,540 But according to Plato's story, 750 00:42:00,540 --> 00:42:03,510 both Greek and African seafaring 751 00:42:03,510 --> 00:42:06,573 began at least 8,000 years earlier. 752 00:42:08,430 --> 00:42:11,610 Recent discoveries are beginning to move the needle 753 00:42:11,610 --> 00:42:12,903 in Plato's favor. 754 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,560 Scientists have discovered obsidian tools in central Tunisia 755 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,233 that originated in the sixth millennium BC. 756 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,300 But they come from an island called Pantelleria, 757 00:42:27,300 --> 00:42:30,423 roughly 60 kilometers from the Tunisian coast. 758 00:42:31,650 --> 00:42:34,350 To acquire the obsidian for these tools 759 00:42:34,350 --> 00:42:39,350 means a round trip of over 120 kilometers across open sea, 760 00:42:39,690 --> 00:42:43,140 thousands of years before historians believed 761 00:42:43,140 --> 00:42:44,283 this was possible. 762 00:42:46,770 --> 00:42:48,810 More hard evidence in Greece 763 00:42:48,810 --> 00:42:50,850 from the era of the Atlantis myth 764 00:42:50,850 --> 00:42:54,570 suggests that at least part of Plato's story 765 00:42:54,570 --> 00:42:56,613 is solidly rooted in fact. 766 00:42:57,570 --> 00:43:00,870 Just outside Athens is a site called Schistou Cave, 767 00:43:00,870 --> 00:43:03,450 where people brought offerings from prehistory, 768 00:43:03,450 --> 00:43:05,670 all the way down to Roman times. 769 00:43:05,670 --> 00:43:08,010 Obsidian tools uncovered there 770 00:43:08,010 --> 00:43:10,260 demonstrate that the region has been inhabited 771 00:43:10,260 --> 00:43:12,690 for at least 14,000 years, 772 00:43:12,690 --> 00:43:15,840 corroborating Plato's assertions in the myth. 773 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,680 The shocking thing about this is not the tools themselves 774 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,430 or even the early date, but rather where they came from, 775 00:43:23,430 --> 00:43:27,483 the island of Milos in the center of the Aegean Sea. 776 00:43:29,070 --> 00:43:31,950 Obsidian tools and weapons from Milos 777 00:43:31,950 --> 00:43:34,923 have been recently discovered all around the Aegean. 778 00:43:35,790 --> 00:43:39,480 Their presence tells us that extensive seafaring trade 779 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,743 was taking place in Greece from at least 13,000 BC. 780 00:43:44,700 --> 00:43:49,260 It also means prehistoric Greeks were sailing long distances 781 00:43:49,260 --> 00:43:54,243 more than 3000 years before the events of the Atlantis myth. 782 00:43:55,830 --> 00:43:58,140 So if people were conducting trade this way 783 00:43:58,140 --> 00:44:02,493 15 millennia ago, why haven't we found any of their boats? 784 00:44:03,720 --> 00:44:05,703 In fact, we've begun to. 785 00:44:06,914 --> 00:44:10,470 In 1987, a Nigerian man digging a well 786 00:44:10,470 --> 00:44:12,210 struck a bizarre object 787 00:44:12,210 --> 00:44:13,683 near the village of Dufuna. 788 00:44:15,780 --> 00:44:19,320 When excavated, the strange item revealed itself 789 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,843 to be a 27-foot-long canoe. 790 00:44:22,830 --> 00:44:27,240 Dated to around 6,500 BC, it would've been in use 791 00:44:27,240 --> 00:44:30,240 right in the middle of the Green Sahara period, 792 00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:34,383 less than 50 kilometers from the shores of Lake Mega-Chad. 793 00:44:35,310 --> 00:44:38,550 The Water People who used it were linked to the lake 794 00:44:38,550 --> 00:44:41,100 by huge networks of rivers and wetlands 795 00:44:41,100 --> 00:44:42,250 that filled the region. 796 00:44:44,580 --> 00:44:46,860 Because of its skillful construction, 797 00:44:46,860 --> 00:44:49,710 experts believe the canoe represents a tradition 798 00:44:49,710 --> 00:44:52,500 that had already undergone long development 799 00:44:52,500 --> 00:44:53,913 in the distant past. 800 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,510 Five meters below the surface, 801 00:44:57,510 --> 00:45:01,500 layers of clay protected the Dufuna canoe from decay 802 00:45:01,500 --> 00:45:03,423 in an oxygen-free environment. 803 00:45:04,410 --> 00:45:08,250 Without that clay, it would've deteriorated completely, 804 00:45:08,250 --> 00:45:10,440 and ancient African boat travel 805 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,783 might have remained speculation. 806 00:45:14,610 --> 00:45:16,530 The reason more ancient boats 807 00:45:16,530 --> 00:45:19,200 aren't sitting in museums today 808 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,110 isn't because they didn't exist. 809 00:45:22,110 --> 00:45:25,803 It's simply because they were made of organic materials. 810 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,560 Clearly, the claim that the Egyptians 811 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,740 had the earliest seafaring boats in 1800 BC 812 00:45:31,740 --> 00:45:33,390 is simply untrue. 813 00:45:33,390 --> 00:45:36,483 Just how untrue is almost mind-blowing. 814 00:45:38,340 --> 00:45:41,130 Crete is the largest island in Greece, 815 00:45:41,130 --> 00:45:44,550 hundreds of kilometers from the North African coast. 816 00:45:44,550 --> 00:45:48,660 It detached from the mainland around 5 million years ago 817 00:45:48,660 --> 00:45:51,783 and has remained a separate island ever since. 818 00:45:53,190 --> 00:45:57,960 We used to think it was first colonized around 6,500 BC 819 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,410 and was entirely unpopulated before that time. 820 00:46:01,410 --> 00:46:04,053 However, that thinking has changed. 821 00:46:04,950 --> 00:46:07,260 Artifacts were recently discovered, 822 00:46:07,260 --> 00:46:10,650 indicating that the first humans must have arrived 823 00:46:10,650 --> 00:46:15,650 on Crete by sea at least 130,000 years ago. 824 00:46:18,060 --> 00:46:21,510 The deeper we look, the more evidence seems to appear 825 00:46:21,510 --> 00:46:23,580 in support of Plato's assertion 826 00:46:23,580 --> 00:46:26,010 that seafaring isn't a new story. 827 00:46:26,010 --> 00:46:27,603 It's a very old story. 828 00:46:29,790 --> 00:46:33,030 If Greek or Atlantean armies 829 00:46:33,030 --> 00:46:37,743 wanted to cross the Mediterranean Sea by ship in 9,600 BC, 830 00:46:38,940 --> 00:46:40,143 it was possible. 831 00:46:42,694 --> 00:46:45,361 (calming music) 832 00:46:46,890 --> 00:46:49,620 As astonishing as the facts we've unearthed are, 833 00:46:49,620 --> 00:46:53,040 there are some major missing pieces to the Atlantis puzzle. 834 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:54,720 Not all of Plato's descriptions 835 00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:57,240 seem to represent a realistic portrayal 836 00:46:57,240 --> 00:46:59,763 of ancient West Africa in 9,600 BC. 837 00:47:01,650 --> 00:47:04,590 Let's revisit some of the myth's claims. 838 00:47:04,590 --> 00:47:06,930 We're told of a ringed capital city 839 00:47:06,930 --> 00:47:09,240 nearly 40 kilometers across, 840 00:47:09,240 --> 00:47:11,340 set into a huge pointed island 841 00:47:11,340 --> 00:47:13,563 in the center of the Atlantean continent. 842 00:47:14,670 --> 00:47:18,210 It was filled with glorious buildings and temples, 843 00:47:18,210 --> 00:47:21,363 as well as harbors bustling with trade from all over. 844 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,480 The city's massive stone walls, 845 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,760 over 30 meters wide, and dozens of kilometers long 846 00:47:28,650 --> 00:47:31,740 were supposedly covered in copper, tin, 847 00:47:31,740 --> 00:47:33,963 and a sparkling metal called orichalcum. 848 00:47:36,150 --> 00:47:39,780 The inhabitants of the capital region were farmers 849 00:47:39,780 --> 00:47:42,180 who harvested crops twice a year 850 00:47:42,180 --> 00:47:44,650 with the aid of an enormous irrigation system 851 00:47:45,660 --> 00:47:48,783 comprising thousands of kilometers of canals. 852 00:47:50,730 --> 00:47:54,270 This kingdom, one of 10 that made up the empire, 853 00:47:54,270 --> 00:47:59,270 was said to field an army of over a million men by itself 854 00:47:59,340 --> 00:48:02,340 with a navy of 1200 ships - 855 00:48:02,340 --> 00:48:05,583 greater than any known fleet of the ancient world. 856 00:48:08,370 --> 00:48:13,323 Could all these things have been true in 9,600 BC? 857 00:48:18,180 --> 00:48:19,013 Metallurgy. 858 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,200 The Atlantis myth claims 859 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,813 the empire made widespread use of metal. 860 00:48:25,710 --> 00:48:29,010 The current narrative of ancient African metallurgy 861 00:48:29,010 --> 00:48:31,290 doesn't support Plato's descriptions 862 00:48:31,290 --> 00:48:35,400 of copper, silver, bronze, or gold 863 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:36,930 being used in large amounts 864 00:48:36,930 --> 00:48:39,753 by early Holocene people in West Africa. 865 00:48:41,070 --> 00:48:42,840 Humanity's use of copper 866 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,983 did begin as early as 10,000 BC in other locations, 867 00:48:47,970 --> 00:48:50,910 but we usually find it only in small tools, 868 00:48:50,910 --> 00:48:52,743 spear tips or jewelry beads. 869 00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:57,540 Plato's descriptions of kilometers-long walls 870 00:48:57,540 --> 00:49:01,653 clad with sheets of tin and copper simply can't be real. 871 00:49:04,830 --> 00:49:06,060 Agriculture. 872 00:49:06,060 --> 00:49:09,450 While semi-domesticated grains from the early Holocene 873 00:49:09,450 --> 00:49:13,170 have been found in Egypt at sites like Nabta Playa, 874 00:49:13,170 --> 00:49:17,340 so far, there's no evidence of farming in Western Africa 875 00:49:17,340 --> 00:49:19,920 until around 3000 BC, 876 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,523 and then only at one isolated site in Morocco. 877 00:49:26,490 --> 00:49:27,323 Irrigation. 878 00:49:28,770 --> 00:49:32,190 Appearing along the Nile for over 5,000 years, 879 00:49:32,190 --> 00:49:36,510 and later used at large scale in Libya by the Garamantes, 880 00:49:36,510 --> 00:49:39,870 irrigation has been found in few other places 881 00:49:39,870 --> 00:49:41,793 across North Africa to date. 882 00:49:43,980 --> 00:49:44,823 Population. 883 00:49:46,110 --> 00:49:49,470 To support the 1.6 million-man army 884 00:49:49,470 --> 00:49:52,470 of just one of the 10 Atlantean kingdoms 885 00:49:52,470 --> 00:49:56,040 would've required a population six times that size, 886 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,140 bordering on 10 million. 887 00:49:58,140 --> 00:50:01,647 Ancient population numbers are being revised upward today, 888 00:50:01,647 --> 00:50:03,750 and the best estimates we have 889 00:50:03,750 --> 00:50:06,420 are between one and 10 million people, 890 00:50:06,420 --> 00:50:08,823 but that's across the entire planet. 891 00:50:10,980 --> 00:50:11,813 Cities. 892 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:19,170 Athens, Sais, and the ringed capital city of Atlantis 893 00:50:19,170 --> 00:50:20,700 were all supposed to have existed 894 00:50:20,700 --> 00:50:23,790 more than 10,000 years ago according to the myth. 895 00:50:24,870 --> 00:50:26,460 While early cities did exist 896 00:50:26,460 --> 00:50:28,980 in the Middle East during that timeframe, 897 00:50:28,980 --> 00:50:31,650 so far nothing matching Plato's descriptions 898 00:50:31,650 --> 00:50:32,613 has been unearthed. 899 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,993 There's another important concern as well. 900 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,160 Not everyone agrees about the nature 901 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,170 and extent of the waterways 902 00:50:43,170 --> 00:50:45,753 that existed in the Green Sahara period. 903 00:50:47,250 --> 00:50:49,950 It's possible the map of Atlantis 904 00:50:49,950 --> 00:50:53,193 didn't look exactly the way it's been theorized. 905 00:50:55,620 --> 00:50:57,540 Does this mean that the vision 906 00:50:57,540 --> 00:51:01,290 of an ancient African Atlantean city 907 00:51:01,290 --> 00:51:03,753 is nothing more than just a fantasy? 908 00:51:07,590 --> 00:51:10,500 Mysterious stone structures have been found 909 00:51:10,500 --> 00:51:11,823 across the Sahara. 910 00:51:15,240 --> 00:51:16,983 What do these structures mean? 911 00:51:20,790 --> 00:51:22,323 What was their purpose? 912 00:51:26,370 --> 00:51:28,023 Are they burial sites? 913 00:51:32,340 --> 00:51:35,193 Were they places of ritual and sacrifice? 914 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,413 Or the remnants of defensive fortifications? 915 00:51:42,060 --> 00:51:45,870 Were they outposts of a dying Atlantean empire 916 00:51:45,870 --> 00:51:49,803 whose constructs faded into dust long ago? 917 00:51:52,860 --> 00:51:54,570 While they are intriguing, 918 00:51:54,570 --> 00:51:56,940 most of these structures are thought to date 919 00:51:56,940 --> 00:51:59,223 from a few thousand years BC, 920 00:52:00,780 --> 00:52:02,700 and in no way do they resemble 921 00:52:02,700 --> 00:52:05,673 the grand Atlantean city of the myth. 922 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,880 There's good reason not to believe Plato's myth was true, 923 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,330 even if Atlantis was an ancient name for West Africa, 924 00:52:15,330 --> 00:52:18,000 and Green Sahara waterways partitioned it in some way 925 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,710 from the rest of the continent. 926 00:52:19,710 --> 00:52:22,770 Other aspects of the tale are ambiguous, 927 00:52:22,770 --> 00:52:24,750 but there's one major piece of evidence 928 00:52:24,750 --> 00:52:27,840 that's difficult for skeptics to dismiss. 929 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,410 If George was right about the location of Atlantis, 930 00:52:31,410 --> 00:52:34,950 then exactly in the center of the curved continent, 931 00:52:34,950 --> 00:52:38,320 there should be the remains of a ringed capital city 932 00:52:39,210 --> 00:52:42,384 roughly 40 kilometers across. 933 00:52:42,384 --> 00:52:45,134 (dramatic music) 934 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,730 The Richat Structure is a prominent circular feature 935 00:52:50,730 --> 00:52:53,493 in the Adrar plateau in Mauritania. 936 00:52:54,450 --> 00:52:57,000 It developed due to tectonic activity 937 00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,403 going back hundreds of millions of years. 938 00:53:00,240 --> 00:53:03,510 Today, it appears as concentric rings, 939 00:53:03,510 --> 00:53:06,663 a circular structure unique on our planet. 940 00:53:08,790 --> 00:53:11,460 Because of its roughly 40 kilometer size 941 00:53:11,460 --> 00:53:13,290 and relative flatness, 942 00:53:13,290 --> 00:53:16,233 it cannot be seen from land in its entirety. 943 00:53:18,540 --> 00:53:21,780 Freshwater fossils confirm the general area 944 00:53:21,780 --> 00:53:24,873 was once home to significant amounts of water. 945 00:53:25,740 --> 00:53:27,090 In the early Holocene, 946 00:53:27,090 --> 00:53:30,483 the Richat might have been a fisherman's paradise. 947 00:53:33,030 --> 00:53:36,600 Scientists who examined the site in the 1970s 948 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:40,530 discovered huge amounts of stone tools in the sediments 949 00:53:40,530 --> 00:53:41,883 of the ringed valleys. 950 00:53:43,350 --> 00:53:47,613 Was this the lost capital city of Atlantis? 951 00:53:48,630 --> 00:53:52,560 George took one more step most people might not. 952 00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:57,300 - So I took the plane, went there with my instruments 953 00:53:57,300 --> 00:54:00,960 and measured all these formations 954 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,993 that were referred to in the Platonic text. 955 00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:06,900 - [Jack] A professional engineer, 956 00:54:06,900 --> 00:54:10,020 George traveled to the Richat in 2008 957 00:54:10,020 --> 00:54:13,983 with a small team of locals and took GPS measurements, 958 00:54:14,850 --> 00:54:17,133 along with readings from altimeters. 959 00:54:19,020 --> 00:54:21,240 His results matched exceptionally well 960 00:54:21,240 --> 00:54:24,270 with the shape he had derived analytically 961 00:54:24,270 --> 00:54:25,833 from Plato's texts. 962 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:32,463 - Could you think that I could be calm after that discovery? 963 00:54:35,070 --> 00:54:38,220 - George's new translation finally illuminated 964 00:54:38,220 --> 00:54:43,110 certain vague nuances that were proven out on location. 965 00:54:43,110 --> 00:54:45,930 There is not one outer ring, but two. 966 00:54:45,930 --> 00:54:48,000 One of the rings is a twin ring, 967 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,540 another small ring encloses the central sacred aisle. 968 00:54:51,540 --> 00:54:53,490 Furthermore, there is a canal 969 00:54:53,490 --> 00:54:56,280 parallel to an original natural waterway. 970 00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,850 It connects to the sea with a flow that is synitetrito, 971 00:54:59,850 --> 00:55:02,700 involving harbors facing one another. 972 00:55:02,700 --> 00:55:04,830 There is also an oddly placed 973 00:55:04,830 --> 00:55:08,490 nine and a half kilometer canal along the next inner ring, 974 00:55:08,490 --> 00:55:12,663 and thus the picture we get of the city looks like this. 975 00:55:14,670 --> 00:55:17,040 If the resemblance of the Richat structure 976 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,760 to Plato's geography is just a coincidence, 977 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,803 it is a remarkable coincidence. 978 00:55:24,450 --> 00:55:27,930 But there was no prize awarded to George Sarantitis, 979 00:55:27,930 --> 00:55:29,373 or Ticker-tape parade. 980 00:55:30,450 --> 00:55:33,150 Instead, one person after another 981 00:55:33,150 --> 00:55:35,190 cashed in on his years of research 982 00:55:35,190 --> 00:55:37,680 without really understanding it. 983 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,890 Many of them made outlandish suggestions, 984 00:55:40,890 --> 00:55:42,420 stating that ocean levels 985 00:55:42,420 --> 00:55:45,330 were hundreds of meters higher in the Holocene, 986 00:55:45,330 --> 00:55:49,860 claiming that continent-sweeping floods purged North Africa, 987 00:55:49,860 --> 00:55:50,943 or worse. 988 00:55:50,943 --> 00:55:53,040 It seems unlikely 989 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,643 that any of these fringe theorists speak Ancient Greek. 990 00:55:57,780 --> 00:56:01,410 - You have to prove according to the Platonic text 991 00:56:01,410 --> 00:56:03,390 where Atlantis is. 992 00:56:03,390 --> 00:56:05,940 - In Plato's writings, a philosopher is one 993 00:56:05,940 --> 00:56:08,880 who seeks the truth and develops a true understanding 994 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,800 of the subject at hand. 995 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,430 A sophist by contrast, might hold a true opinion, 996 00:56:14,430 --> 00:56:17,630 but they lack any real knowledge of what underpins it. 997 00:56:17,630 --> 00:56:20,010 It ought to be clear by now to which category 998 00:56:20,010 --> 00:56:22,683 George belongs versus his imitators. 999 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:28,520 - Believe me, it was a very difficult task. 1000 00:56:30,006 --> 00:56:32,673 (calming music) 1001 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,360 - At last we come to a final question. 1002 00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,330 Atlantis was supposed to have sunk into the sea, 1003 00:56:39,330 --> 00:56:41,403 disappearing in a single day and night. 1004 00:56:42,270 --> 00:56:44,580 I'm here at Mount Lycabettus in Athens, 1005 00:56:44,580 --> 00:56:48,060 277 meters above sea level. 1006 00:56:48,060 --> 00:56:52,200 Even if every single ice sheet on the entire planet melted, 1007 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,410 the rising oceans would not even come close 1008 00:56:55,410 --> 00:56:57,570 to where I'm sitting right now. 1009 00:56:57,570 --> 00:57:01,560 - This misunderstanding has been created 1010 00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,290 because of two characteristic words 1011 00:57:04,290 --> 00:57:06,453 which exist in the Platonic text. 1012 00:57:07,470 --> 00:57:11,645 One word is the word "thisa," 1013 00:57:11,645 --> 00:57:14,761 and the other is "izomani." 1014 00:57:15,729 --> 00:57:20,555 Thisa was wrongly translated to "submerged," 1015 00:57:24,030 --> 00:57:27,763 but when you have poeticoetio, 1016 00:57:27,763 --> 00:57:29,820 a special condition 1017 00:57:29,820 --> 00:57:33,153 where the energy of a verb returns to the subject, 1018 00:57:34,110 --> 00:57:38,400 then this verb has different meaning, 1019 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,823 and the meaning actually is "covered." 1020 00:57:42,900 --> 00:57:47,900 So we are talking about two totally different meanings. 1021 00:57:48,390 --> 00:57:50,793 "Sank" - wrong translation, 1022 00:57:51,630 --> 00:57:56,630 or it's steady and was covered by the sea. 1023 00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:02,460 The actual meaning of izomani 1024 00:58:02,460 --> 00:58:06,593 is that it was settled 1025 00:58:06,593 --> 00:58:09,660 and not inundated. 1026 00:58:09,660 --> 00:58:14,313 It's definitely impossible to have a flooded continent. 1027 00:58:15,660 --> 00:58:19,830 The rhombic island was also not flooded. 1028 00:58:19,830 --> 00:58:24,830 But what was flooded is the capital city of Atlantis. 1029 00:58:25,950 --> 00:58:29,670 - Plato never wrote that an island or a continent sank. 1030 00:58:29,670 --> 00:58:32,520 Instead, the destruction of Atlantis 1031 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,800 would've gone something like this. 1032 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,250 First, a huge earthquake in the region 1033 00:58:38,250 --> 00:58:39,693 of the rhombic island. 1034 00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:45,600 Second, an influx of water from an adjacent inland sea. 1035 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,270 This may have been combined with liquefaction 1036 00:58:48,270 --> 00:58:51,240 of water-saturated land on the rhombic island, 1037 00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,070 causing a landslide. 1038 00:58:53,070 --> 00:58:56,883 Either of these could have caused a localized tsunami. 1039 00:58:58,020 --> 00:59:00,690 Third, after the liquefaction, 1040 00:59:00,690 --> 00:59:02,790 loose clay stopped up the drainage 1041 00:59:02,790 --> 00:59:06,090 of excess water from the ringed capital city. 1042 00:59:06,090 --> 00:59:09,390 It alone was flooded as a consequence. 1043 00:59:09,390 --> 00:59:13,260 Lastly, as the Green Sahara monsoons continued, 1044 00:59:13,260 --> 00:59:17,253 runoff arrived and kept the Richat Structure full of water. 1045 00:59:18,090 --> 00:59:22,230 Allegedly it was still swamped around 600 BC 1046 00:59:22,230 --> 00:59:25,653 when the Egyptian priest told Solon the story. 1047 00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:30,450 I met with Oregon State University earthquake expert 1048 00:59:30,450 --> 00:59:32,220 Dr. Scott Ashford, 1049 00:59:32,220 --> 00:59:35,580 to see if George's description was possible. 1050 00:59:35,580 --> 00:59:40,580 - Is there any way that a tsunami could sink a continent? 1051 00:59:40,610 --> 00:59:41,940 The answer is no. 1052 00:59:41,940 --> 00:59:46,020 The amount of energy that is generated in the earthquake 1053 00:59:46,020 --> 00:59:47,628 and then the amount of energy 1054 00:59:47,628 --> 00:59:50,110 that it carries in that tsunami 1055 00:59:51,030 --> 00:59:54,060 is nothing compared to what it would take 1056 00:59:54,060 --> 00:59:56,100 to sink a continent. 1057 00:59:56,100 --> 01:00:00,960 But are there ways that an earthquake and a tsunami 1058 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,000 could destroy a city, remove a city, 1059 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:07,620 make it look like it's been wiped off the face of the earth? 1060 01:00:07,620 --> 01:00:09,240 - [Jack] Mauritania isn't known 1061 01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,600 for strong seismic activity in recent decades, 1062 01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,410 but smaller earthquakes do tend to cluster around a region 1063 01:00:16,410 --> 01:00:19,080 to the north of the rhombic island. 1064 01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:20,850 - Can we get a big earthquake in an area 1065 01:00:20,850 --> 01:00:23,760 that where we don't normally have earthquakes? 1066 01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,850 And certainly the Pacific Northwest is a great example. 1067 01:00:26,850 --> 01:00:31,850 We get these great earthquakes every 300, 400, or 500 years. 1068 01:00:32,550 --> 01:00:35,070 Sometimes there's a thousand years 1069 01:00:35,070 --> 01:00:38,340 between these great earthquakes. 1070 01:00:38,340 --> 01:00:41,280 - [Jack] The deadliest earthquake in recorded history 1071 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:45,630 was likely Shaanxi China in 1556, 1072 01:00:45,630 --> 01:00:50,630 where an area 520 miles across was completely destroyed 1073 01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:55,773 and an estimated 830,000 people were killed. 1074 01:00:56,730 --> 01:01:00,100 - An earthquake in Japan last decade 1075 01:01:00,990 --> 01:01:03,780 caused thousands of landslides 1076 01:01:03,780 --> 01:01:06,210 just because it happened to take place 1077 01:01:06,210 --> 01:01:07,890 during the rainy season. 1078 01:01:07,890 --> 01:01:10,710 If you were to walk on liquefaction, it would look, 1079 01:01:10,710 --> 01:01:12,480 it would be like quick sand, 1080 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,370 and you'd just sink right into it. 1081 01:01:14,370 --> 01:01:17,040 The sand loses all its strength. 1082 01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,590 The slope will fail, will cause a landslide. 1083 01:01:19,590 --> 01:01:20,700 In the Hawaiian islands, 1084 01:01:20,700 --> 01:01:23,850 part of one of the islands slid away, 1085 01:01:23,850 --> 01:01:28,560 caused a tsunami that affected the the nearby islands. 1086 01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:32,070 - [Jack] If the adjacent sea was struck by an earthquake, 1087 01:01:32,070 --> 01:01:35,370 or if a huge landslide plunged into the rings of water 1088 01:01:35,370 --> 01:01:37,830 around the Atlantean capital city, 1089 01:01:37,830 --> 01:01:40,920 it would've created a powerful tsunami, 1090 01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:44,640 one of the deadliest natural disasters on earth. 1091 01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:48,728 - If you have a landslide that falls into a small sea 1092 01:01:48,728 --> 01:01:51,900 or a big lake, it causes a wave, 1093 01:01:51,900 --> 01:01:55,710 and that wave hits a nearby town, 1094 01:01:55,710 --> 01:01:59,520 certainly that can wash away some of the smaller structures, 1095 01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,560 depends how big it is. 1096 01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:05,880 So this huge machine behind me is our tsunami wave basin, 1097 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:09,630 and there are paddles along the back 1098 01:02:09,630 --> 01:02:12,240 that are computer-controlled 1099 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:16,800 and allow us to generate almost any kind of wave. 1100 01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,920 We've actually had a scale model of some cities 1101 01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:24,920 and we look at what is the effect of a tsunami on this town. 1102 01:02:25,061 --> 01:02:27,978 (machine whirring) 1103 01:02:33,514 --> 01:02:36,264 (waves crashing) 1104 01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:43,650 - It gives you that feeling of what a real disaster 1105 01:02:43,650 --> 01:02:44,483 would've looked like. 1106 01:02:44,483 --> 01:02:45,316 - Yeah. 1107 01:02:49,157 --> 01:02:52,320 (waves crashing) 1108 01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:53,547 - That's a tsunami. 1109 01:02:54,927 --> 01:02:58,440 How do these natural disasters interact? 1110 01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,330 A tsunami or landslide, 1111 01:03:00,330 --> 01:03:03,390 it carries all the debris along with it. 1112 01:03:03,390 --> 01:03:06,660 I've seen the sand almost look like toothpaste 1113 01:03:06,660 --> 01:03:09,300 filling up all the drainage canals. 1114 01:03:09,300 --> 01:03:10,830 As the water dissipates, 1115 01:03:10,830 --> 01:03:14,580 it's gonna leave your drainage system filled with dirt. 1116 01:03:14,580 --> 01:03:17,250 If you have flooding after that, 1117 01:03:17,250 --> 01:03:19,050 there's nowhere for the water to go. 1118 01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:24,090 Plato - the way that he describes different events 1119 01:03:24,090 --> 01:03:27,660 has truth as far as what we observe today. 1120 01:03:27,660 --> 01:03:31,590 Flooding, earthquakes, liquefaction, landslides, 1121 01:03:31,590 --> 01:03:35,010 any of those could have destroyed the settlement, 1122 01:03:35,010 --> 01:03:37,530 making the town unviable. 1123 01:03:37,530 --> 01:03:40,290 While there may be some damage, they also may not be able 1124 01:03:40,290 --> 01:03:44,883 to continue their commerce, and the town still dies. 1125 01:03:49,260 --> 01:03:52,080 - Ever since George's ideas became known, 1126 01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:55,230 adventurers have gone to the Mauritanian desert, 1127 01:03:55,230 --> 01:03:57,813 looking for the remains of a lost city. 1128 01:03:59,190 --> 01:04:01,530 In 2020, satellite images 1129 01:04:01,530 --> 01:04:05,220 allowed for the discovery of hundreds of stone ruins 1130 01:04:05,220 --> 01:04:07,170 in the Richat area. 1131 01:04:07,170 --> 01:04:10,440 These ruins, however remain undated, 1132 01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:14,850 and even if found to originate close to 9,600 BC, 1133 01:04:14,850 --> 01:04:17,700 they are a far cry from the massive city 1134 01:04:17,700 --> 01:04:19,260 described in the myth. 1135 01:04:19,260 --> 01:04:22,830 Mighty palaces, irrigation systems, 1136 01:04:22,830 --> 01:04:27,210 temples, gymnasiums, boat houses cut in stone, 1137 01:04:27,210 --> 01:04:30,960 and city walls, dozens of kilometers long. 1138 01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,690 Here, in the details of the city, 1139 01:04:33,690 --> 01:04:38,310 perhaps we are encountering some of Plato's untruths. 1140 01:04:38,310 --> 01:04:40,740 Today, we tend to associate great civilizations 1141 01:04:40,740 --> 01:04:43,080 with Titanic works of architecture, 1142 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,750 as did the Ancient Egyptians and Greeks. 1143 01:04:45,750 --> 01:04:47,880 But the construction of large temples, 1144 01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:49,980 fortifications and palaces 1145 01:04:49,980 --> 01:04:52,230 only makes sense if a large population 1146 01:04:52,230 --> 01:04:55,473 is dwelling in a single area for an extended period of time. 1147 01:04:56,430 --> 01:04:59,013 What if our ancestors didn't? 1148 01:05:00,180 --> 01:05:04,590 The Mongolian Empire was the largest contiguous land empire 1149 01:05:04,590 --> 01:05:06,240 in human history, 1150 01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,570 conquering everyone they found in their path. 1151 01:05:09,570 --> 01:05:13,350 Living on the move, they weren't prolific builders. 1152 01:05:13,350 --> 01:05:16,950 They were a free-ranging nomadic population 1153 01:05:16,950 --> 01:05:19,650 that still maintained a few permanent 1154 01:05:19,650 --> 01:05:22,530 or semi-permanent settlements. 1155 01:05:22,530 --> 01:05:26,763 This pattern was almost universal in the early Holocene. 1156 01:05:28,230 --> 01:05:30,870 Temporary camps and seasonal movement 1157 01:05:30,870 --> 01:05:32,673 were the default way of life. 1158 01:05:33,570 --> 01:05:37,800 In fact, the nomadic lifestyle dominated North Africa 1159 01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,950 all the way until colonialism arrived. 1160 01:05:40,950 --> 01:05:42,990 Some, like the Tuareg, 1161 01:05:42,990 --> 01:05:45,120 maintained their traditional ways 1162 01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,043 up to the early 20th century. 1163 01:05:49,620 --> 01:05:52,260 Maybe the idea of the Atlantean capital 1164 01:05:52,260 --> 01:05:53,850 sprang from later people, 1165 01:05:53,850 --> 01:05:55,980 the Egyptians and Greeks. 1166 01:05:55,980 --> 01:05:58,770 They might have imposed their own cultural assumptions 1167 01:05:58,770 --> 01:06:02,553 about architecture onto the story of the Atlantean empire, 1168 01:06:03,660 --> 01:06:05,800 dreaming up an enormous capital city 1169 01:06:06,810 --> 01:06:10,080 where in fact only hunter-gatherer villages 1170 01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,663 and fishing encampments once existed. 1171 01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,440 Whoever discovered bits of such ruins 1172 01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,780 and stone tools around the Richat 1173 01:06:18,780 --> 01:06:19,980 might have inferred 1174 01:06:19,980 --> 01:06:23,070 that they were tiny remnants of an epic city 1175 01:06:23,070 --> 01:06:25,563 that met its destruction long in the past. 1176 01:06:27,570 --> 01:06:29,490 With certain embellishments, 1177 01:06:29,490 --> 01:06:34,110 perhaps the myth of Atlantis does record the last vestiges 1178 01:06:34,110 --> 01:06:37,323 of a great ancient African empire. 1179 01:06:39,300 --> 01:06:41,190 But there must be dozens of ways 1180 01:06:41,190 --> 01:06:43,443 the story could have come down to us. 1181 01:06:46,170 --> 01:06:48,930 Was it made up by ancient Mauritanians 1182 01:06:48,930 --> 01:06:52,080 to explain a puzzling geographic feature 1183 01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:56,133 and found its way to Egypt over time via trade caravans? 1184 01:06:57,570 --> 01:07:00,930 Was the Atlantean culture completely fabricated 1185 01:07:00,930 --> 01:07:02,280 or was its description 1186 01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:05,610 by the Egyptian priest true in some respects 1187 01:07:05,610 --> 01:07:06,873 and not in others? 1188 01:07:07,980 --> 01:07:11,490 Was the story based on a real cultural memory 1189 01:07:11,490 --> 01:07:15,900 of Niger-Congo hunters attacking Nile Valley civilization 1190 01:07:15,900 --> 01:07:17,403 at the dawn of the Holocene? 1191 01:07:18,510 --> 01:07:21,450 Was it enhanced with reports of ruins 1192 01:07:21,450 --> 01:07:23,673 at a far-off ringed landmark? 1193 01:07:24,630 --> 01:07:25,980 Did the priests of Sais 1194 01:07:25,980 --> 01:07:29,670 invent certain dramatic aspects as allegory? 1195 01:07:29,670 --> 01:07:33,663 Or did Solon, Critias, or Plato himself? 1196 01:07:35,220 --> 01:07:37,560 At each step along the way, 1197 01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:42,183 changes might have been made, facts confused, 1198 01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:45,783 or elements invented. 1199 01:07:48,390 --> 01:07:53,390 There's simply no way to know the truth with 100% certainty. 1200 01:07:54,690 --> 01:07:58,680 But what if we're asking the wrong questions? 1201 01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:01,080 Plato's intent with the myth of Atlantis 1202 01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,090 might have had nothing at all to do with 1203 01:08:03,090 --> 01:08:05,940 where it supposedly was or who lived there. 1204 01:08:05,940 --> 01:08:07,950 It might have had everything to do 1205 01:08:07,950 --> 01:08:10,849 with how we understand our distant human past 1206 01:08:10,849 --> 01:08:13,516 and how we think in the present. 1207 01:08:27,450 --> 01:08:29,310 The Atlantis myth has had people 1208 01:08:29,310 --> 01:08:32,340 chasing lost continents for millennia, 1209 01:08:32,340 --> 01:08:35,100 and yet most of us have failed to ask 1210 01:08:35,100 --> 01:08:40,100 why Plato cared so much about this particular ancient tale. 1211 01:08:41,820 --> 01:08:44,340 The fundamental theme appears to be 1212 01:08:44,340 --> 01:08:46,290 the destruction of Atlantis 1213 01:08:46,290 --> 01:08:48,843 due to hubris and moral corruption. 1214 01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:55,173 But the story isn't about the loss of just one civilization. 1215 01:08:56,460 --> 01:09:00,570 It takes an Egyptian priest with a temple full of records 1216 01:09:00,570 --> 01:09:02,520 to make the Greeks realize 1217 01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:05,943 that they have completely lost their own past. 1218 01:09:06,870 --> 01:09:11,823 Is this myth more about Atlantis or the ancient Athenians? 1219 01:09:13,710 --> 01:09:15,150 In Plato's era, 1220 01:09:15,150 --> 01:09:18,840 the Greeks knew a legendary people had preceded them 1221 01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:22,020 and had possessed writing that was later lost, 1222 01:09:22,020 --> 01:09:24,753 along with all the history it represented. 1223 01:09:26,100 --> 01:09:30,753 In fact, Greece had writing from at least 1850 BC. 1224 01:09:31,620 --> 01:09:35,913 One script we know of, Linear B, lasted centuries, 1225 01:09:36,870 --> 01:09:39,270 but it all vanished when the great palaces 1226 01:09:39,270 --> 01:09:43,680 of the Mycenaeans were destroyed in the 12th century BC. 1227 01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:47,490 For hundreds of years afterward, the Greeks were illiterate 1228 01:09:47,490 --> 01:09:49,803 before writing was reinvented. 1229 01:09:52,950 --> 01:09:56,040 This same theme of civilizational destruction 1230 01:09:56,040 --> 01:10:00,633 and cultural loss was also present in Plato's own time. 1231 01:10:02,130 --> 01:10:06,510 Not only did he experience decades of war himself, 1232 01:10:06,510 --> 01:10:09,300 but two generations before he was born, 1233 01:10:09,300 --> 01:10:13,293 Athens was utterly destroyed by an invading Persian army. 1234 01:10:14,250 --> 01:10:16,353 Nearly everything was lost, 1235 01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,370 and yet even when the most sacred temples 1236 01:10:20,370 --> 01:10:25,370 were sacked and burned, the core myths of Greek culture, 1237 01:10:25,830 --> 01:10:29,073 the Iliad and the Odyssey lived on. 1238 01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:35,970 Plato realized that myth might be the most durable way 1239 01:10:35,970 --> 01:10:39,243 of preserving knowledge and wisdom across time. 1240 01:10:40,237 --> 01:10:42,540 (dramatic music) 1241 01:10:42,540 --> 01:10:45,363 Atlantis, a story of destruction, 1242 01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:51,200 simultaneously acts as a tool for cultural preservation. 1243 01:10:52,770 --> 01:10:56,100 Functioning as an ancient time capsule, 1244 01:10:56,100 --> 01:11:00,330 this myth allows us to ponder the same questions 1245 01:11:00,330 --> 01:11:04,563 he posed to his students more than 2000 years ago. 1246 01:11:08,850 --> 01:11:11,130 How can we know ourselves as a culture 1247 01:11:11,130 --> 01:11:13,053 if we have forgotten our past? 1248 01:11:14,940 --> 01:11:16,890 How do we know what is true 1249 01:11:16,890 --> 01:11:19,623 if we have no records of what happened? 1250 01:11:21,750 --> 01:11:25,320 How do we preserve the continuity of civilization, 1251 01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:28,230 knowing that disasters will strike 1252 01:11:28,230 --> 01:11:31,563 and that everything can be so easily lost? 1253 01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:35,670 We shouldn't be surprised 1254 01:11:35,670 --> 01:11:38,910 that Plato's myth is something very different 1255 01:11:38,910 --> 01:11:41,190 from what we might expect. 1256 01:11:41,190 --> 01:11:45,483 A profound teaching device in the form of a puzzle. 1257 01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:49,470 - Do not underestimate any detail. 1258 01:11:49,470 --> 01:11:54,470 It's a very high scientific document, 1259 01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:59,067 and you can use it to teach either a child 1260 01:11:59,067 --> 01:12:00,526 or an initiate. 1261 01:12:05,970 --> 01:12:09,543 - A modern puzzle has a single solution or answer, 1262 01:12:10,860 --> 01:12:13,620 but the Atlantis myth presents an entirely 1263 01:12:13,620 --> 01:12:15,660 different kind of puzzle. 1264 01:12:15,660 --> 01:12:17,910 A multi-layered apparatus, 1265 01:12:17,910 --> 01:12:21,720 designed for improving your thinking, yourself 1266 01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:24,060 and how you see the world, 1267 01:12:24,060 --> 01:12:27,663 a world where everything is richly connected. 1268 01:12:29,550 --> 01:12:32,190 Plato's best students knew all the writings 1269 01:12:32,190 --> 01:12:37,190 and historical events we've covered: the Odyssey, the Iliad, 1270 01:12:37,367 --> 01:12:39,150 Herodotus's history, 1271 01:12:39,150 --> 01:12:42,273 the Persian wars and the Peloponnesian War. 1272 01:12:43,710 --> 01:12:46,320 Given the keen minds of this audience, 1273 01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:49,953 Plato could freely play with a vast array of ideas. 1274 01:12:51,030 --> 01:12:54,090 If you look hard, you may begin to notice 1275 01:12:54,090 --> 01:12:56,973 certain connections and double meanings. 1276 01:12:58,740 --> 01:13:00,990 The size of the Atlantean military 1277 01:13:00,990 --> 01:13:04,950 recalls Greek estimates of the army that destroyed Athens 1278 01:13:04,950 --> 01:13:06,213 in the Persian war. 1279 01:13:07,710 --> 01:13:11,070 The sequence of the Atlantean war echoes the flow 1280 01:13:11,070 --> 01:13:15,030 of the Peloponnesian war between Athens and Sparta 1281 01:13:15,030 --> 01:13:17,880 that shook Greece to its foundation 1282 01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:21,333 just as it began to recover from fending off the Persians. 1283 01:13:23,250 --> 01:13:25,800 Or perhaps you'll see how Plato requires you 1284 01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:29,040 to bend your thinking when he writes 1285 01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:30,720 that the length of Atlantis 1286 01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,303 is longer than Libya and Asia together. 1287 01:13:34,380 --> 01:13:37,320 This distance is only definable 1288 01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:39,420 if we realize that the phrase 1289 01:13:39,420 --> 01:13:43,140 is nearly word for word from Herodotus 1290 01:13:43,140 --> 01:13:46,320 when he describes the length of Europe. 1291 01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,960 And this length doesn't fit Atlantis 1292 01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,060 unless we curve it into an arc 1293 01:13:51,060 --> 01:13:52,923 to follow the shape of the continent. 1294 01:13:54,780 --> 01:13:57,570 Moving away from thinking in a straight line 1295 01:13:57,570 --> 01:14:01,080 is powerfully emblematic of the approach it takes 1296 01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,963 to reach the hidden meaning in Plato's myth. 1297 01:14:05,670 --> 01:14:07,410 This becomes most apparent 1298 01:14:07,410 --> 01:14:09,750 in the journey from familiar waters 1299 01:14:09,750 --> 01:14:12,873 into the unknown lands of Atlantis. 1300 01:14:20,190 --> 01:14:23,460 To get to Atlantis, one first had to pass 1301 01:14:23,460 --> 01:14:24,783 the Pillars of Heracles, 1302 01:14:26,370 --> 01:14:30,240 but the word Plato used for the pillars, stela, 1303 01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,050 didn't mean a structural column 1304 01:14:33,030 --> 01:14:36,333 or natural formation like the Rock of Gibraltar. 1305 01:14:37,448 --> 01:14:40,500 A stela was a commemorative stone plaque, 1306 01:14:40,500 --> 01:14:44,400 something demarcating the edge of Greek expansion, 1307 01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:46,683 the limits of what was known. 1308 01:14:47,700 --> 01:14:49,830 When you pass by this marker, 1309 01:14:49,830 --> 01:14:53,340 you enter an enormous uncertain territory 1310 01:14:53,340 --> 01:14:56,733 that you must navigate completely on your own. 1311 01:14:59,190 --> 01:15:04,083 It is exactly this territory that Plato wants us to seek. 1312 01:15:05,130 --> 01:15:10,110 To succeed there, you'll have to look past easy answers, 1313 01:15:10,110 --> 01:15:12,123 leaving linear thinking behind. 1314 01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:15,960 And you'll only find your way 1315 01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,600 by grappling with conflicting information 1316 01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:21,273 and complexities at the same time. 1317 01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,630 Perhaps Atlantis signifies 1318 01:15:24,630 --> 01:15:26,250 that while the knowledge of the moment 1319 01:15:26,250 --> 01:15:28,470 may crumble and fade with time, 1320 01:15:28,470 --> 01:15:32,193 we will always need to discern between true and false. 1321 01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:37,113 And even if we'll never reach a perfect ultimate truth, 1322 01:15:38,100 --> 01:15:42,120 there is still virtue in taking a step closer to it 1323 01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:43,023 if we can. 1324 01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:46,410 In today's world of fake news, 1325 01:15:46,410 --> 01:15:50,703 Plato's challenge couldn't be more necessary or timelier. 1326 01:15:53,820 --> 01:15:55,860 The myth of Atlantis in that sense 1327 01:15:55,860 --> 01:15:59,340 holds a greater truth than all our scientific theories 1328 01:15:59,340 --> 01:16:00,843 and archeological digs. 1329 01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:07,160 - I was looking for Plato and found Atlantis. 1330 01:16:08,820 --> 01:16:13,223 The other guys are looking for Atlantis and forgot Plato. 1331 01:16:20,310 --> 01:16:23,970 - [Jack] Plato invited his students into a hidden way 1332 01:16:23,970 --> 01:16:26,880 of engaging with the puzzle he'd created, 1333 01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:29,310 where cultural continuity 1334 01:16:29,310 --> 01:16:33,360 and the individual's journey toward wisdom come together 1335 01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:35,343 and in an extraordinary way. 1336 01:16:36,480 --> 01:16:39,303 The timeless way of the initiate. 1337 01:16:40,860 --> 01:16:44,580 This way of thought is perhaps best illustrated 1338 01:16:44,580 --> 01:16:48,420 in trying to answer one of the most stubborn enigmas 1339 01:16:48,420 --> 01:16:50,700 of this entire story, 1340 01:16:50,700 --> 01:16:55,203 the fact that the Atlantis myth has no ending. 1341 01:16:56,790 --> 01:16:59,940 - You realize that you might have in front of you 1342 01:16:59,940 --> 01:17:00,873 a puzzle to solve. 1343 01:17:01,770 --> 01:17:03,933 Do not underestimate the text. 1344 01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:07,560 - Critias appears unfinished, 1345 01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:09,990 as if Plato was writing it one day, 1346 01:17:09,990 --> 01:17:12,360 put his pen down mid-sentence 1347 01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:15,003 and never got around to completing the story. 1348 01:17:16,170 --> 01:17:18,420 Or maybe he did finish it 1349 01:17:18,420 --> 01:17:21,453 and the manuscript was partially destroyed by time, 1350 01:17:22,470 --> 01:17:24,843 leaving us with only a fragment. 1351 01:17:26,190 --> 01:17:28,833 These are the official explanations, 1352 01:17:31,170 --> 01:17:33,363 but let's take a closer look. 1353 01:17:36,090 --> 01:17:38,940 The cut-off end of Critias takes place 1354 01:17:38,940 --> 01:17:40,650 in a conference of the Gods, 1355 01:17:40,650 --> 01:17:44,700 where Zeus addresses the subject of the Atlanteans. 1356 01:17:44,700 --> 01:17:47,550 Zeus, realizing that the chosen race 1357 01:17:47,550 --> 01:17:49,380 was behaving despicably, 1358 01:17:49,380 --> 01:17:53,130 wishing to punish them, called to council all the gods, 1359 01:17:53,130 --> 01:17:56,883 and on having assembled them said... Said what? 1360 01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:00,570 Knowing what you know now, 1361 01:18:00,570 --> 01:18:02,190 doesn't the idea that Plato 1362 01:18:02,190 --> 01:18:04,650 simply left off mid-sentence 1363 01:18:04,650 --> 01:18:07,473 seem just a little suspicious to you? 1364 01:18:10,140 --> 01:18:12,600 To get to the bottom of this enigma, 1365 01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:16,353 we need to think like one of Plato's initiates. 1366 01:18:19,205 --> 01:18:21,872 (calming music) 1367 01:18:29,010 --> 01:18:33,330 Plato challenges you not to memorize what he says, 1368 01:18:33,330 --> 01:18:35,343 but to think for yourself. 1369 01:18:36,420 --> 01:18:39,510 As we met to discuss his work for the last time, 1370 01:18:39,510 --> 01:18:42,453 George demonstrated the depth of his own thinking, 1371 01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:46,830 revealing a connection between Plato's Atlantis 1372 01:18:46,830 --> 01:18:51,063 and Homer's Odyssey that no one had ever realized before. 1373 01:18:52,050 --> 01:18:55,470 Critias has always been considered unfinished, 1374 01:18:55,470 --> 01:18:58,290 leaving us to conjecture about the full extent 1375 01:18:58,290 --> 01:19:01,680 of the Atlantis story we have lost. 1376 01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:03,990 But George has strong evidence 1377 01:19:03,990 --> 01:19:07,380 the mid-sentence ending was intentional 1378 01:19:07,380 --> 01:19:10,953 and that scholars have misread it for centuries. 1379 01:19:12,750 --> 01:19:15,240 When Zeus calls together all the gods 1380 01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:18,780 to make his cutoff speech at the end of Critias, 1381 01:19:18,780 --> 01:19:20,880 we're presented with a scene 1382 01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:23,700 identical to one that takes place 1383 01:19:23,700 --> 01:19:26,523 right on the first page of the Odyssey. 1384 01:19:28,530 --> 01:19:30,600 Only Poseidon is missing 1385 01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:35,550 from the conference of the Gods in the Odyssey, and why? 1386 01:19:35,550 --> 01:19:39,600 Poseidon had gone to visit the Ethiopians worlds away 1387 01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:43,443 to receive an offering, bulls and rams by the hundred. 1388 01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:48,963 He's busy enjoying an animal sacrifice in Africa, 1389 01:19:49,830 --> 01:19:50,760 much like the one 1390 01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:54,123 Plato has the Atlantean kings perform in Critias. 1391 01:19:55,170 --> 01:19:58,080 Poseidon is the patron God of Atlantis, 1392 01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:01,593 and a traditional rival to Athena, Goddess of Athens. 1393 01:20:02,580 --> 01:20:07,290 He was also God of the Sea and of earthquakes, 1394 01:20:07,290 --> 01:20:10,803 which together destroyed the Atlantean capital city. 1395 01:20:12,630 --> 01:20:15,993 The matching conferences of the gods called by Zeus, 1396 01:20:17,940 --> 01:20:21,603 the links to Africa and Poseidon's special role there. 1397 01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:25,623 The parallel animal sacrifices. 1398 01:20:27,090 --> 01:20:30,330 These connections between Critias and the Odyssey 1399 01:20:30,330 --> 01:20:33,633 seem too obvious not to have been deliberate. 1400 01:20:34,830 --> 01:20:36,993 Where is Plato leading us? 1401 01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:43,520 - Plato is forcing you to find out the right piece, 1402 01:20:45,128 --> 01:20:46,530 which is missing. 1403 01:20:46,530 --> 01:20:49,655 Make a crosscheck between the Atlantis story 1404 01:20:49,655 --> 01:20:52,380 and the Odyssey story. 1405 01:20:52,380 --> 01:20:57,330 Decide by yourself, what could be the end of the story? 1406 01:20:57,330 --> 01:21:01,920 - Look at how the Atlantis story ends seemingly mid-sentence 1407 01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:03,570 and now here's Zeus, 1408 01:21:03,570 --> 01:21:06,420 speaking at an identical gathering of the Gods 1409 01:21:06,420 --> 01:21:08,910 on page one of the Odyssey. 1410 01:21:08,910 --> 01:21:11,700 Zeus, realizing that the chosen race 1411 01:21:11,700 --> 01:21:13,650 was behaving despicably, 1412 01:21:13,650 --> 01:21:17,550 wishing to punish them, called to council all the gods, 1413 01:21:17,550 --> 01:21:19,987 and on having assembled them said, 1414 01:21:19,987 --> 01:21:23,587 "Oh alas, how mortals put the blame on the gods. 1415 01:21:23,587 --> 01:21:27,007 "They declare that from us stem their misfortunes, 1416 01:21:27,007 --> 01:21:29,497 "while it is often they themselves 1417 01:21:29,497 --> 01:21:32,677 "who with their bad deeds fall into grief 1418 01:21:32,677 --> 01:21:34,394 "beyond what's written." 1419 01:21:36,030 --> 01:21:37,410 It doesn't cut off part way 1420 01:21:37,410 --> 01:21:40,140 because Plato was too lazy to finish it. 1421 01:21:40,140 --> 01:21:41,880 He did it on purpose. 1422 01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:45,240 It redirects you back to the beginning of the Odyssey. 1423 01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:47,970 - And what is the story of the Odyssey? 1424 01:21:47,970 --> 01:21:51,660 - A man who left the civilization that he knows 1425 01:21:51,660 --> 01:21:54,960 and has to go on this long, circuitous journey. 1426 01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:57,390 He has to suffer and struggle mightily 1427 01:21:57,390 --> 01:22:00,870 just to get back to the point where he started from. 1428 01:22:00,870 --> 01:22:05,870 - Welcome Jack, to the realm of Plato's initiates. 1429 01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:07,450 - Thanks, George. 1430 01:22:09,753 --> 01:22:12,720 This is Plato's meta-lesson 1431 01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,963 about the continuity of human civilization. 1432 01:22:16,890 --> 01:22:20,730 If we do not fight against corruption in our society 1433 01:22:20,730 --> 01:22:22,020 and ourselves, 1434 01:22:22,020 --> 01:22:25,680 and if we do not plan ahead for periods of disaster, 1435 01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:28,170 we will wind up reduced to ignorance, 1436 01:22:28,170 --> 01:22:31,170 losing all the great blessings we enjoy, 1437 01:22:31,170 --> 01:22:33,810 and it will be a long, circuitous, 1438 01:22:33,810 --> 01:22:38,133 and tortured Odyssey to get back to where we began. 1439 01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:46,170 "It's certainly possible that things are that way, 1440 01:22:46,170 --> 01:22:48,900 "but it is also possible that they are not, 1441 01:22:48,900 --> 01:22:52,650 "so you must investigate them courageously and thoroughly 1442 01:22:52,650 --> 01:22:55,170 "and not accept anything easily. 1443 01:22:55,170 --> 01:22:58,650 "You are still young and in your prime after all. 1444 01:22:58,650 --> 01:23:01,590 "Then, after you've investigated them, 1445 01:23:01,590 --> 01:23:04,080 "if you happen to discover the truth, 1446 01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:05,463 "you can share it with me." 1447 01:23:11,627 --> 01:23:14,210 (upbeat music) 1448 01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:34,020 - I think we can learn not to ignore the myths, right, 1449 01:23:34,020 --> 01:23:36,610 and I think, you know, all the time we're finding 1450 01:23:37,470 --> 01:23:38,940 what we thought was a myth, 1451 01:23:38,940 --> 01:23:41,607 now we find actually is a reality. 1452 01:23:41,607 --> 01:23:44,190 (upbeat music) 1453 01:23:45,945 --> 01:23:48,612 (calming music) 1454 01:24:11,402 --> 01:24:14,069 (calming music) 116215

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