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- What do you know about the past
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and how do you know it?
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Our species stretches
back over 300,000 years,
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yet we only have written records
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for the last 2% of that time.
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Across the long proceeding ages,
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how many cultures, kingdoms,
and even empires have vanished?
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All evidence of their
existence now turned to dust.
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Today, archeologists can
carbon-date artifacts
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and sequence DNA with computers.
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Yet the picture of the
deep past that emerges
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is often frustratingly incomplete.
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For the majority of our
time on this planet,
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humanity has relied on
myth to tell us the story
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of who we are and where we came from.
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Today we often think
of myths as fantasies,
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fairytales for simple-minded primitives.
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We read about science
myth-busting old ideas,
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demonstrating how
superior our knowledge is
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to that of our ancestors.
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But perhaps we shouldn't be so quick
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to draw these conclusions.
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We begun to discover that some
myths are rooted in truth.
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(upbeat music)
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Troy, the famous city attacked
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by Greek heroes in the Iliad
had been thought fiction
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for hundreds of years, an
invention of Homeric epic poetry.
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That is, until Heinrich Schliemann's team
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discovered its remains
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and those of its arch rival, Mycenae,
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in the late 19th century,
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completely shifting the
paradigm around the credibility
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of ancient sources.
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The great flood myths of many cultures
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have often been considered
religious parable,
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yet recent studies
suggest they may reflect
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cultural memories of
rapidly rising sea levels,
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like those that caused
massive catastrophic flooding
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of the Black Sea around 7,300 BC.
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Such evidence opens a tantalizing door,
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inviting us to wonder
about ancient civilizations
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of which no true records exist.
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But there's one myth that's unlike others
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for a simple reason,
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it has dates attached to it.
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That myth is Atlantis.
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Most of us only have a foggy notion
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of what the Atlantis
myth was really about.
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Was it an advanced civilization
from a missing period
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in prehistory?
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Or a decadent society on a lost continent
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crushed by the wrath of the
gods in a cataclysmic event?
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And if so, how exactly does a continent
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get lost in the first place?
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Let's begin with what Atlantis is,
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a story written down around
2,400 years ago here in Athens.
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The story is a strange one.
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Solon, famous law giver
of the Athenian state
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and one of the seven
sages of Ancient Greece
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journeyed to the Temple of
Sais in the Egyptian Nile Delta
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around 600 BC.
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He spoke with the high priests there
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about the prehistoric past,
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and told them the Greek's
own mythical version
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of these events,
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stretching back to the
great flood of Deucalion,
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and estimated what the
true dates might have been.
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An elder priest responded,
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"Oh, Solon, Solon, you
Greeks are always children.
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"No Greek is old.
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"You are young, let us say, in psyche
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"because you do not have inside you
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"any hearing of ancient knowledge,
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"and you have not learned
of things of the past."
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The priest describes a past
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interspersed with natural
disasters, droughts, wildfires,
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and not one, but many floods.
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It's a long past the Greeks have forgotten
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through a lack of continuity.
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Their culture had to reinvent
itself after each disaster,
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its populace reduced to a
life of basic subsistence.
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The Egyptians, by contrast,
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has escaped most of these disasters
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and maintained ongoing records
of events in their temples,
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including a major story
the priest is quite certain
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the Greeks have forgotten: Atlantis.
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It was said to be a continent
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with a mighty empire that
existed around 9,600 BC,
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ruled by 10 kings descended
from Poseidon, God of the Sea.
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Its capital city was
astoundingly large and decadent,
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its army and navy enormous.
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Its wealth was unmatched, as
was its thirst for conquest.
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It swept across North Africa,
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eventually conquering Egypt,
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and assaulted the western
Mediterranean coast of Europe
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up to central Italy.
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After a series of wars,
it was finally defeated
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by the ancestors of the Athenians
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who liberated Egypt
and many other peoples,
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only to lose their army
in the final assault
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on the capitol of this belligerent power
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during a horrific earthquake
and series of floods.
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The idea that an unknown
continent sank into the ocean,
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and the mystery surrounding its location
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has generated debate for hundreds
if not thousands of years.
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Most doubt it ever existed,
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but perhaps the most bizarre thing
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about the myth of Atlantis is its source,
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Plato, the greatest philosopher
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of the classical Greek world.
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Plato was born into the noble
classes of Periclean Athens
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toward the end of its
golden age of culture
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and worldly success.
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He grew up during the worst
civil war in Greek history
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between Athens and Sparta,
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and as a young man was educated
by distinguished teachers.
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Following the defeat of Athens
and the death of his mentor,
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Socrates in 399 BC, Plato
packed up and disappeared.
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For the next 12 years,
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we're told that he
traveled the Mediterranean,
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studying with the
greatest minds of the age
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in places like Sicily,
southern Italy, and Egypt.
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Around age 40, he returned to Athens
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where he founded a school
called The Academy,
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and taught great thinkers like Aristotle,
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as well as authoring dozens
of books on philosophy.
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The fact he wrote about
such a strange story,
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and not just one, but two of his books
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is something of a puzzle in itself.
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He wasn't an entertainer
for kids' birthday parties.
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He was a masterful thinker
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who crafted some of the most complex works
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at the very foundation of Western thought.
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Vague notions of a lost civilization
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that sank beneath the waves
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have sparked innumerable interpretations
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from Jules Verne to Disney
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in the roughly 2,400
years since Plato's death.
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Whatever the Atlantis
myth once represented
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has been washed from our minds
by a tsunami of pop culture.
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- [Narrator] Atlantis, a
land that harnessed the power
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of a volcano's fiery heart
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and learned to store the energy of the sun
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in giant crystals.
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Then used them to create secret weapons
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whose disintegrating rays
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could destroy the rest of the world.
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- All this bogus Atlantis imagery
has also had a side effect
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spawning an almost obsessive
interest by fringe theorists
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in uncovering a lost continent
sunken beneath the ocean.
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(calming music)
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Ignatius L. Donnelly's "Atlantis,
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the Antediluvian World" of 1882
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was among the first to
propose a massive continent
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that sank into the depths
of the Atlantic Ocean,
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the survivors of which allegedly fled
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to start new civilizations,
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everywhere from the Yucatan to Egypt.
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Donnelly surmised the Azores islands
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were the tips of this huge landmass,
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a theory that despite being incorrect
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has somehow persisted to the
present day in some circles.
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The fact that Plato borrowed
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certain allegories and
metaphors from older traditions
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has led a number of scholars
to propose the myth of Atlantis
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was inspired by a series of actual events,
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such as the powerful and deadly eruption
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of Thera on Santorini,
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the Sea People's Invasions,
or even the Trojan War.
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And this is just the tip of the iceberg.
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The location of Atlantis
has been proclaimed
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across the globe.
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With such a flood of wild
goose chase theories,
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it's not surprising that
most classicists today
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consider the Atlantis
myth as simply an allegory
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invented by Plato to explain
the dangers of hubris,
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bad government and military aggression.
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But not everyone agrees.
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(waves crashing)
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- Plato was the greatest
philosopher of all times.
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My major question was
why so rational a man
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was occupied writing myths?
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This is the beginning of
the story 20 years ago.
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- [Jack] George Sarantitis
does not believe
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in sinking continents.
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An independent researcher
of the Ancient Greek world,
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he's authored papers on
a broad range of topics,
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combining his knowledge
of the ancient language
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with geography, sailing,
and climate change
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to reconstruct pictures of the past
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that have confused scholars for centuries.
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His work on dating the Iliad
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through reference to astronomy
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has even been recognized
by the Greek Academy.
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Nearly 20 years ago,
George turned his attention
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to the work of his favorite
philosopher, Plato.
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- The main characteristic of Plato
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is to put you in the problem.
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It demands a very logical sequence.
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You cannot escape by doing
things that do not fit,
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otherwise you don't have results.
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- Unlike many other philosophers
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who sought to build perfect systems,
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few, if any of Plato's writings
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can be said to advocate a cut
and dried set of positions.
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His dialogues often seem to have
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dissatisfaction and puzzlement,
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even with the doctrines
he seems to be presenting
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for our consideration.
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In this sense, his exact positions
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often seem something of a mystery.
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- Plato was writing these myths
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for other highly educated people.
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What is the benefit for an educated person
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or a student of Plato,
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what could he take from a myth?
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That was the puzzle that
I would like to solve.
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- [Jack] George began analyzing
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Plato's philosophical dialogues,
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looking for patterns in the
way he wrote about myths,
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and over time formulated
a series of axioms.
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The theory he developed,
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he titled, "Methodology of Mythology",
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a theory he formally presented
in a series of papers
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at conferences throughout the first decade
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of the 21st century.
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The theory suggests Plato
deliberately constructed his myths
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for use as a teaching tool,
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and that consistent
grammatical clues within them
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turn the stories into a
kind of mental gymnasium
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for advanced students.
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- Gradually you see that
there is a systematic writing
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of a myth.
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There is a frequent appearance of axioms,
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or the axiom that you
find from the beginning.
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You might see it later on and later on,
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and you can predict that you're going to
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find in front of you,
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such a thing,
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because there are also some
warnings within the text.
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He might use two similar sounding words
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at the beginning and at
the end of the paragraph,
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but with much different meaning.
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Do not underestimate any
detail to find out the tricks,
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the laws or axioms or systems
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the mythographer is following
to construct the myth.
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It's a very high scientific document,
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and you can use it to teach
either a child or an initiate.
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- The story of Atlantis
is briefly summarized
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in a book called Timaeus.
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The rest of this long
dialogue then goes on
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to focus on seemingly unrelated subjects.
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Plato's later dialogue,
Critias, on the other hand,
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is a description of the ancient conflict
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between the Athens of 9,600 BC
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and the hostile Atlantean empire,
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and it seems to have been
cut off mid-sentence.
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Most believe that either
the book was unfinished
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or that the rest has simply
been lost to history.
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George collected several
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of the best modern Greek
and English translations
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of Critias and Timaeus and
began to dig into them.
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Soon he noticed an unusual pattern.
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All the translations were in
agreement for the most part,
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but certain areas of complex description
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were often rendered completely differently
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with various degrees of incompatible,
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even conflicting logic.
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- When you see so many different meanings
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coming out of different translations,
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something is wrong.
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(George speaking Ancient Greek)
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- [Jack] He went back to
to the source documents,
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the Ancient Greek texts themselves,
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and began to compare
the modern translations
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to Plato's original words.
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- One of the very first things
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is that I had read Atlantic Ocean.
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There is no Atlantic
Ocean in the ancient text.
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- [Jack] We can see the same thing
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in many common English translations.
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For these histories
tell of a mighty power,
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which unprovoked, made an expedition
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against the whole of Europe and Asia,
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and to which your city put an end.
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This power came forth out
of the Atlantic Ocean,
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for in those days the
Atlantic was navigable.
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- It says Atlantic Pelagos.
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"Pelagos" and "ocean"
have no connection at all.
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They have much different properties.
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- [Jack] To get to Atlantis from Greece,
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you had to cross a large body of water,
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previously translated as Atlantic Ocean,
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but the actual Ancient Greek
says "Atlantic Pelagos" -
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something more like the Aegean Sea,
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partially enclosed by land.
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This meant something important.
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Atlantis couldn't possibly be
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where earlier researchers
like Ignatius Donnelly
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had said it was.
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But if Plato wasn't referring
to the Atlantic Ocean,
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what was this mysterious Atlantic Pelagos
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that led to Atlantis,
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and were there other
aspects of the Ancient Greek
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that were being lost in translation?
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- It's like mathematics.
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If you are using wrong data,
you have a wrong result.
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A lot of different translators
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were not able to translate
correctly the ancient text,
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and this was the spark and the main cause
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to push me to start to
retranslate the whole two books,
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Timaeus and Critias, from the beginning.
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- [Jack] George proceeded to spend
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over two years and 4,000 hours
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working with Athens University
philologist, Eva Dakia,
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to formulate new translations
of these two books
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to ensure he was correctly verifying
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every rule of syntax and grammar.
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- The same word on the sixth century
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might have different meaning
on the fifth century,
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different on the fourth
century, different.
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You need the correct
meaning of every word,
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phrase, line and paragraph.
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Otherwise you are reading a wrong story.
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- [Jack] Once he had the words,
then he rebuilt the phrases,
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then the sentences,
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because a changed sentence
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will change the meaning of a paragraph,
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which can alter the
meaning of an entire book.
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George began to see that Plato's geography
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was far more specific
than he or anyone else
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had realized before.
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Bit by bit the pieces of
the map began to take form
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based on the meaning of key words.
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Besides "Okeanos," Greek
has three main words
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for large bodies of water
we would call "seas."
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The Mediterranean Sea is a "thalassa."
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The Aegean is a "pelagos,"
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a sea that encloses
islands like an embrace.
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"Pontos" - what we call
in English, the Black Sea,
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Greeks called the "Euxenos Pontos."
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- And a pontos, it's not a
pelagos, and it's not an ocean,
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but in all the translations,
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all these are named ocean or sea.
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- [Jack] Through close
analysis of the grammar
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in Critias and Timaeus,
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George was also able
to identify and define
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three key terms that had
previously been translated
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interchangeably as island,
to great confusion.
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A continent, an island, and
the sacred center island
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of the Atlantean capital city.
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The size and concentric-ringed
shape of which
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are explained in great,
albeit confusing detail.
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Tradition has it that the phrase,
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"Let no one ignorant
of geometry enter here"
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was carved above the
door to Plato's Academy.
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If he included complex
geometrical diagrams,
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very specific geographic terms
and directional orientations,
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we have to ask, "Why are they there?"
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- If it was about a fairy tale,
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you don't need to give such details.
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It was instructions how
to approach Atlantis,
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start entering the Pillars of Hercules,
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which is characterized as a mouth
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where the larger cavity
is the Mediterranean
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and the smaller cavity
is an Atlantic Pelagos.
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After you pass these Pillars of Hercules,
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you are in front of an Atlantic Pelagos,
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and then you have in
front of you an island,
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a very large one,
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and he characterizes it
as well as a continent.
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For this continent, he describes
a semi-curved shape of land
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larger than Asia and Libya in length,
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where either by going
through the continent
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or through islands, step by step,
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somewhere in the middle of this curve,
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you can find something like
a harbor, then a "poros,"
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a narrow passage to pass
into another pelagos
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after you have left behind
you a pontos - different sea -
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Then you are in front of an island
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which is located in the
middle of this landmass
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of the island continent.
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And then suddenly I had
a new reality in my mind.
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- [Jack] According to Plato,
to get to Atlantis by sea,
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one first had to pass
the Pillars of Heracles.
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So not surprisingly,
George's first question was,
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where are the Pillars of Heracles?
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The answer, ever since Rome conquered
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the entire Mediterranean,
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has been that the pillars are located
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near the Strait of Gibraltar,
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perhaps with one in
Europe and one in Africa,
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but this was not always the case.
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When George began to dig,
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he found there had been
considerable confusion and dispute
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among ancient authors over
precisely what and where
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the Pillars of Heracles were.
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- As average person, I knew
that the Pillars of Heracles
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are somewhere in Gibraltar.
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But Plato is giving you instructions
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and he's giving a different direction
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where to find the Pillars of Heracles.
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You have to study the text very hard
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to understand where this place is.
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- While examining the
differences in descriptions
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between the two books,
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George realized Greek grammar
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was the key to narrowing in
on the location of the pillars
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and the mysterious Atlantic Pelagos.
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There's a subtle difference
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in how language is used
in Timaeus versus Critias.
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The closest parallel in
English might be the way
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we use this versus
that, or here and there.
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"This here" means something proximate,
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"that there" means something distant.
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The Egyptian priest speaks
of "this here Libya,"
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referring to a place that's
adjacent to his location
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in the Nile Delta Sais.
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This grammatical nuance can be used
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to pin down relative
locations in the story
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based on who was speaking
and where that person was
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at that moment in time.
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The writings refer to
how mighty was the force
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that marched in arrogance at the same time
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against all of Europe and Asia,
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that campaigned out of
the Atlantic Pelagos.
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The fact that the Atlanteans campaigned
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out of the Atlantic Pelagos suggests
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it is inside the Pillars of Heracles,
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that they demarcate a
kind of regional border,
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and that Europe and Asia are
on the outside of the pillars.
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- If the grammar and syntax was correct,
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the two Pillars of Heracles
both should exist within Africa.
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- [Jack] But where?
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Known as the father of history,
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the Ancient Greek author, Herodotus,
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wrote his famous work a
generation before Plato.
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It was widely known
throughout the Greek world
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for the travels he'd undertaken
all around the Mediterranean
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reporting on the kingdoms
and people he discovered.
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In book four of his history,
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he describes the voyage of a Samian ship
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that was blown off course,
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and made landfall on the
Libyan coast at modern Bomba.
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They then set sail for Egypt,
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but a powerful easterly wind drove them
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in the opposite direction,
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all the way through
the Pillars of Heracles
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to a place called Tartessos.
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The location of Tartessos
has been recently ascribed
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to southern Spain.
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However, the dictionary of
Greek and Roman geography
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notes that its location was
uncertain among the ancients.
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George soon saw the
problem in another light.
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A long time sailor, he did
some quick math and realized
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that at the rates of sea
travel in Herodotus's era,
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the Samian ship's journey to Gibraltar
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would've taken somewhere
between 20 and 30 days
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and involved sailing hundreds
of kilometers northward,
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completely around Tunisia,
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all the time without making landfall.
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- It's impossible to
have made this journey
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in the given time.
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Gibraltar could not be the place
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where the Pillars of Heracles were.
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- [Jack] There was another
much more logical location
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for the ancient Pillars of Heracles,
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the Gulf of Gabes in modern Tunisia.
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A journey to the Gulf of Gabes
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would've taken only six to 10 days
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instead of the 20 or 30 to Gibraltar.
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But if the Gulf of Gabes was
where the Pillars of Heracles
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were in Plato's era,
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where was the Atlantic Pelagos
that they supposedly led to?
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- If every word he's using
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has been translated in
your mind correctly,
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you will find the right way.
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- [Jack] While today the
linkage to inland Africa
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is blocked up,
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the Gulf once connected
the Mediterranean Sea
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to a large series of
salt lakes called chotts.
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Today, these chotts are only navigable
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by the smallest of boats,
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and even then, only during
Tunisia's annual wet season.
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This positioning for
the Pillars of Heracles
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and the Atlantic Pelagos
starts to make sense
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if we look back at Plato's
statement that "At that time
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the there-pelagos was navigable."
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Plato seems to be saying
that at the time of Atlantis,
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the chotts were once a larger
sea leading to inland Africa
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and deep enough to be sailed by ships,
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but that in his own time,
the pelagos had silted up.
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By contrast, the Roman era location
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of the Pillars of Heracles
at the Strait of Gibraltar
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was never impassable to ships.
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That waterway hasn't closed
up since the Mediterranean Sea
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refilled around 4.8 million years ago.
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- Gibraltar could not be the place
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where the Pillars of Heracles were.
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If you are able to catch this detail,
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then you get the picture.
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- [Jack] The new picture meant something
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startling and important.
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The map of the world looked different
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in the age of Atlantis.
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- Atlantis should be
the west part of Africa,
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and only there.
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- The lost continent of myth
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had been hiding in plain sight all along.
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How hard was it really
to believe that a place
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that contained the Atlas Mountains
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bordered the Atlantic Ocean
515
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,330
and contained a kingdom
516
00:28:30,330 --> 00:28:32,970
that Herodotus had once
called the Atlantes
517
00:28:32,970 --> 00:28:36,420
had been called Atlantis
in prehistoric times.
518
00:28:36,420 --> 00:28:38,730
But there's a much bigger problem.
519
00:28:38,730 --> 00:28:40,980
Most of Western Africa today is covered
520
00:28:40,980 --> 00:28:42,990
by lifeless Sahara desert.
521
00:28:42,990 --> 00:28:45,780
So even if the geography seemed to fit,
522
00:28:45,780 --> 00:28:48,480
how could any of the story
be true in the first place?
523
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,253
- The text contains the truth.
524
00:28:51,319 --> 00:28:53,986
(calming music)
525
00:29:03,965 --> 00:29:06,715
(dramatic music)
526
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,600
- Today, the Sahara is
an inhospitable expanse,
527
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,090
but starting at the dawn of the Holocene,
528
00:29:15,090 --> 00:29:18,600
and down until as recently as 3000 BC,
529
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,330
it was a lush green landscape
530
00:29:21,330 --> 00:29:25,440
supporting an enormous
array of animals and fish
531
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,350
hunted by our ancestors.
532
00:29:28,350 --> 00:29:31,923
Today we call this
period the Green Sahara.
533
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,820
What did this world actually look like
534
00:29:35,820 --> 00:29:38,493
and was it anything like
the world of Plato's myth?
535
00:29:39,382 --> 00:29:42,930
(storm rumbling)
536
00:29:42,930 --> 00:29:45,180
Cyclic changes altered the pattern
537
00:29:45,180 --> 00:29:47,460
of the African monsoon rains,
538
00:29:47,460 --> 00:29:50,460
causing them to intensify
and move northward
539
00:29:50,460 --> 00:29:53,250
around 11,000 BC.
540
00:29:53,250 --> 00:29:56,730
These powerful monsoons
not only replaced desert
541
00:29:56,730 --> 00:29:59,700
with vegetations and large animals,
542
00:29:59,700 --> 00:30:04,050
they also transformed the few
tiny lakes across North Africa
543
00:30:04,050 --> 00:30:07,080
from Clark Kent into Superman.
544
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,200
More than 12,000 lakes
have been identified,
545
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,290
likely covering over a
million square kilometers
546
00:30:13,290 --> 00:30:15,063
at their maximum extent.
547
00:30:15,990 --> 00:30:19,050
Hyper-arid desert was replaced by savannah
548
00:30:19,050 --> 00:30:20,430
and swiftly inhabited
549
00:30:20,430 --> 00:30:23,040
by prehistoric people who roamed there
550
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,633
for thousands of years.
551
00:30:25,740 --> 00:30:28,980
Archeologists have
corroborated the tales told
552
00:30:28,980 --> 00:30:32,610
by ancient rock art with
finds of bone fish hooks
553
00:30:32,610 --> 00:30:35,283
and harpoons in the middle of the desert.
554
00:30:37,350 --> 00:30:40,350
Five massive river systems flowed out
555
00:30:40,350 --> 00:30:43,380
from the central mountain
ranges of Africa,
556
00:30:43,380 --> 00:30:47,370
linking vast mosaics of
tributaries and wetlands.
557
00:30:47,370 --> 00:30:50,100
This allowed aquatic species to travel,
558
00:30:50,100 --> 00:30:54,553
including not just fish, but
crocodiles and hippopotami.
559
00:30:56,277 --> 00:30:59,880
In 2020, a research team
confirmed crocodiles
560
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:04,880
are still living in a rocky
plateau in southern Mauritania,
561
00:31:04,890 --> 00:31:08,163
a place now utterly surrounded by desert.
562
00:31:09,390 --> 00:31:13,020
The waterways of the Green
Sahara once extended here
563
00:31:13,020 --> 00:31:14,973
all the way from the Nile River.
564
00:31:16,530 --> 00:31:19,230
For a moment, if we close our eyes,
565
00:31:19,230 --> 00:31:22,050
we can imagine a map of two continents
566
00:31:22,050 --> 00:31:23,523
at the dawn of the Holocene,
567
00:31:24,420 --> 00:31:28,950
a North Africa divided
by seas, lakes and rivers
568
00:31:28,950 --> 00:31:31,563
into Libya and Atlantis.
569
00:31:33,750 --> 00:31:38,280
Was this the real world
Plato's myth was communicating
570
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,953
a distant memory of in
Timaeus and Critias?
571
00:31:43,860 --> 00:31:46,860
It would certainly answer
a lot of questions.
572
00:31:46,860 --> 00:31:50,133
Climate facts make
George's theory plausible,
573
00:31:51,300 --> 00:31:53,283
but what about the rest of the myth?
574
00:31:54,570 --> 00:31:57,720
Let's see if we can reassemble the pieces
575
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,133
of the Atlantis puzzle.
576
00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:07,380
George's work meant the Atlantis story
577
00:32:07,380 --> 00:32:10,353
could no longer be dismissed
as complete fantasy.
578
00:32:12,510 --> 00:32:14,940
If the myth isn't all made up,
579
00:32:14,940 --> 00:32:17,010
then we have our work cut out for us
580
00:32:17,010 --> 00:32:21,393
to determine which elements
might be false and which true.
581
00:32:23,910 --> 00:32:27,300
Our tale begins around 9,600 BC,
582
00:32:27,300 --> 00:32:29,583
at the dawn of the Green Sahara period.
583
00:32:30,510 --> 00:32:32,340
It's also roughly the same point
584
00:32:32,340 --> 00:32:35,220
at which modern scientists
mark the beginning
585
00:32:35,220 --> 00:32:37,080
of the Holocene epoch,
586
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,790
a geologic time period
587
00:32:38,790 --> 00:32:41,580
that continues down to the present day.
588
00:32:41,580 --> 00:32:43,590
We're told the Atlanteans of this era
589
00:32:43,590 --> 00:32:48,030
initiated a great war spreading
eastward across Africa
590
00:32:48,030 --> 00:32:50,223
and conquering everything in their path.
591
00:32:51,180 --> 00:32:54,140
Who were these mysterious Atlanteans?
592
00:32:56,139 --> 00:32:58,890
Herodotus writes an enigmatic
phrase in his history
593
00:32:58,890 --> 00:33:01,980
when he speaks of both
eastern and western Ethiopians
594
00:33:01,980 --> 00:33:05,130
who dwelled at the extreme
ends of the African continent.
595
00:33:05,130 --> 00:33:06,570
Homer too in the Odyssey
596
00:33:06,570 --> 00:33:09,960
writes of "the Ethiopians
who dwell split in two,
597
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,293
some who dwell where the sun
rises, and some where it sets."
598
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,520
The root of the Ancient Greek "Aethiopia"
599
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,930
comes from "aitho," burn, and "ops," face.
600
00:33:21,930 --> 00:33:24,903
The land of those with darkened faces.
601
00:33:26,310 --> 00:33:28,680
The Ancient Greeks seemed to believe
602
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,510
that there were two major groups
603
00:33:30,510 --> 00:33:33,330
of dark-skinned North African people,
604
00:33:33,330 --> 00:33:36,753
somehow divided by an east-west split.
605
00:33:37,980 --> 00:33:41,490
Were the dark-skinned
inhabitants of Mauritania
606
00:33:41,490 --> 00:33:43,320
from Herodotus's era,
607
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,680
the direct descendants
of the mythic Atlanteans,
608
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,810
and were these the kind of people
609
00:33:48,810 --> 00:33:52,440
Plato had in mind when he wrote his books?
610
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,110
They just might be a hidden reality
611
00:33:55,110 --> 00:33:58,650
behind these descriptions
from Ancient Greek writers.
612
00:33:58,650 --> 00:34:02,160
Current linguistic research
suggests the people who spoke
613
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,070
the two major North
African language groups
614
00:34:05,070 --> 00:34:09,090
did in fact split some
time in the deep past.
615
00:34:09,090 --> 00:34:11,370
They were likely isolated from one another
616
00:34:11,370 --> 00:34:13,710
during a long dry period,
617
00:34:13,710 --> 00:34:17,520
and then reconnected
during the Green Sahara.
618
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,650
They differed not only in language,
619
00:34:19,650 --> 00:34:21,570
but in their ways of life,
620
00:34:21,570 --> 00:34:24,480
and so much so that
researchers have called them
621
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,183
the Land People and the Water People.
622
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,780
The water people spoke the language group
623
00:34:30,780 --> 00:34:33,090
known as Nilo-Saharan.
624
00:34:33,090 --> 00:34:36,870
The expansion of waterways
when the Green Sahara began
625
00:34:36,870 --> 00:34:40,260
led to rapid north and
westward outmigration
626
00:34:40,260 --> 00:34:41,313
of these people.
627
00:34:42,810 --> 00:34:46,230
They hunted fish, crocodiles and hippos
628
00:34:46,230 --> 00:34:49,593
using barbed harpoons and bone fish hooks.
629
00:34:51,570 --> 00:34:53,700
The land people, by contrast,
630
00:34:53,700 --> 00:34:57,630
were savannah hunters
who used bows and arrows.
631
00:34:57,630 --> 00:35:01,290
They spoke the language
family called Niger-Congo,
632
00:35:01,290 --> 00:35:03,000
which seems to have originated
633
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,060
in the region of modern day Mauritania.
634
00:35:06,060 --> 00:35:09,690
They migrated south and
eastward across the Sahara
635
00:35:09,690 --> 00:35:11,190
during the wet period.
636
00:35:11,190 --> 00:35:14,553
Evidence of their presence
spans Northern Africa.
637
00:35:16,530 --> 00:35:21,090
Climate and human migration
might actually support the idea
638
00:35:21,090 --> 00:35:22,830
of an Atlantean people,
639
00:35:22,830 --> 00:35:25,680
but were epic battles
like those in the myth
640
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,113
really a feature of the early Holocene?
641
00:35:34,050 --> 00:35:35,520
It's tempting to see the myth
642
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,590
of an aggressive Atlantean empire
643
00:35:37,590 --> 00:35:39,480
that took over North Africa
644
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,620
as based on the expansion of
Niger-Congo speaking hunters
645
00:35:43,620 --> 00:35:44,913
in the early Holocene.
646
00:35:45,810 --> 00:35:47,370
The time period was similar
647
00:35:47,370 --> 00:35:49,623
and so was the general
direction of movement.
648
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,140
Perhaps the cultural memories
of the Nile Valley people
649
00:35:55,140 --> 00:35:57,090
who encountered these intruders
650
00:35:57,090 --> 00:35:59,040
have found their way down to us
651
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,653
in a mythical reconstruction of events.
652
00:36:02,970 --> 00:36:06,333
This is however complete speculation.
653
00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:13,170
While the true origins of
the mythical Atlantean war
654
00:36:13,170 --> 00:36:14,820
may be in doubt,
655
00:36:14,820 --> 00:36:18,210
what is not in doubt is
that wars were indeed
656
00:36:18,210 --> 00:36:21,093
taking place in Ancient North Africa.
657
00:36:24,731 --> 00:36:27,510
Jebel Sahaba, Northern Sedan,
658
00:36:27,510 --> 00:36:29,820
a prehistoric massacre took place here
659
00:36:29,820 --> 00:36:34,820
between two different cultural
groups around 11,000 BC.
660
00:36:35,103 --> 00:36:39,000
In the 1960s, archeologists
first uncovered
661
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,510
a large number of skeletons
with stone arrowheads
662
00:36:42,510 --> 00:36:43,473
embedded in them.
663
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:49,560
These attacks may have taken
place over months or even years
664
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,453
in a kind of ongoing war.
665
00:36:52,770 --> 00:36:55,650
The closer we get to the early Holocene,
666
00:36:55,650 --> 00:36:59,130
the more evidence accumulates
for armed conflict
667
00:36:59,130 --> 00:37:00,990
by large groups.
668
00:37:00,990 --> 00:37:03,480
Cave paintings show teams of archers
669
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,633
confronting one another,
attacking or fleeing.
670
00:37:09,690 --> 00:37:14,100
Did a real Atlantean army
march east across North Africa
671
00:37:14,100 --> 00:37:16,890
11,600 years ago,
672
00:37:16,890 --> 00:37:20,910
annihilating resistance with
barrages of stone-tipped arrows
673
00:37:20,910 --> 00:37:24,033
and seizing territory
all the way to the Nile?
674
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,000
Or might the wars of
the myth be a projection
675
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,533
from Plato's own time?
676
00:37:32,590 --> 00:37:34,800
(crowds cheering)
677
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,160
Plato was no stranger to violence.
678
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,440
His childhood was spent in the shadow
679
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,783
of the worst civil war in Greek history.
680
00:37:43,620 --> 00:37:47,520
Athens and its allies were
engaged in bloody combat
681
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,690
with Sparta and its allies from 431 BC
682
00:37:51,690 --> 00:37:54,390
up until he was six or seven years old.
683
00:37:54,390 --> 00:37:56,220
A brief peace ensued,
684
00:37:56,220 --> 00:38:00,510
but by the time Plato reached
adolescence in 415 BC,
685
00:38:00,510 --> 00:38:02,613
war had broken out again.
686
00:38:03,870 --> 00:38:06,450
It lasted another 11 years,
687
00:38:06,450 --> 00:38:10,980
during which time Plato
himself saw military service
688
00:38:10,980 --> 00:38:15,090
before Athens finally
succumbed to a Spartan blockade
689
00:38:15,090 --> 00:38:16,383
and had to surrender.
690
00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:21,270
Some see a parallel between
the historical Athens
691
00:38:21,270 --> 00:38:23,730
and the one in the Atlantis myth.
692
00:38:23,730 --> 00:38:26,700
The Peloponnesian War of Plato's childhood
693
00:38:26,700 --> 00:38:29,850
was triggered by a Spartan ally's attack
694
00:38:29,850 --> 00:38:33,483
and the Athenians saw themselves
as being on the defensive.
695
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,640
In the Atlantis myth, the
Atlanteans begin as the aggressors
696
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,813
and are righteously repulsed
by the Athens of 9,600 BC.
697
00:38:43,740 --> 00:38:45,990
The second phase of the Peloponnesian War
698
00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:48,270
saw Athens as the aggressor
699
00:38:48,270 --> 00:38:51,663
when they attacked
Syracuse in Sicily by sea.
700
00:38:52,770 --> 00:38:56,550
In the myth, Athens also
became the aggressor
701
00:38:56,550 --> 00:38:58,950
when they marched all the way to the gates
702
00:38:58,950 --> 00:39:00,813
of the Atlantean capital city.
703
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,300
The complete destruction
704
00:39:03,300 --> 00:39:06,000
of the Athenian military in the myth
705
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,590
might mirror the total loss
706
00:39:07,590 --> 00:39:11,130
of the Athenian army in
the assault on Syracuse
707
00:39:11,130 --> 00:39:14,013
during the second phase
of the Peloponnesian War.
708
00:39:15,384 --> 00:39:18,134
(dramatic music)
709
00:39:20,625 --> 00:39:24,458
Was the Atlantean war
real, total fabrication,
710
00:39:26,010 --> 00:39:30,183
or a blend of myth, history
and cultural memory?
711
00:39:31,470 --> 00:39:34,590
- He's giving this in a Platonic way.
712
00:39:34,590 --> 00:39:39,590
You have to decipher, you
have to extract from the text.
713
00:39:40,530 --> 00:39:44,160
- Plato is our only source for Atlantis.
714
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,670
Solely by proving or refuting his story,
715
00:39:47,670 --> 00:39:49,023
can we get to the truth.
716
00:39:49,980 --> 00:39:54,060
Unfortunately, archeological
evidence is scarce
717
00:39:54,060 --> 00:39:58,320
and the region as a whole is
in general poorly studied.
718
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,320
If we want to know whether story elements
719
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,410
like the vast Atlantean
trade networks were real,
720
00:40:04,410 --> 00:40:07,860
we have to look at analogous
evidence from other areas
721
00:40:07,860 --> 00:40:10,083
of North Africa and the Mediterranean.
722
00:40:17,697 --> 00:40:20,697
(ship horn blaring)
723
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,010
International trade is
724
00:40:23,010 --> 00:40:26,700
something we consider a hallmark
of modern globalization.
725
00:40:26,700 --> 00:40:28,770
The idea that an Atlantean society
726
00:40:28,770 --> 00:40:32,880
was trading across continents
more than 11,000 years ago
727
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,150
seems impossible, but it's not.
728
00:40:36,150 --> 00:40:39,690
8,000 year old DNA from an underwater site
729
00:40:39,690 --> 00:40:44,690
off the shore of the UK has
generated a strange revelation.
730
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,860
Hunter-gatherers were consuming
731
00:40:46,860 --> 00:40:49,140
two types of domesticated wheat here,
732
00:40:49,140 --> 00:40:53,160
long before anyone in Britain
began cultivating grain.
733
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,850
These wheat species have no wild ancestors
734
00:40:56,850 --> 00:40:57,960
in northern Europe.
735
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,570
They weren't grown locally.
736
00:41:00,570 --> 00:41:04,140
They arrived from the Middle
East through a trade network
737
00:41:04,140 --> 00:41:07,443
spanning the entire European continent.
738
00:41:09,240 --> 00:41:14,163
Continent-sweeping trade networks
existed in the Stone Age,
739
00:41:17,460 --> 00:41:20,010
But what about ancient seafaring?
740
00:41:20,010 --> 00:41:23,340
If an Atlantean army
really attacked Europe,
741
00:41:23,340 --> 00:41:26,760
they had to do more than
cross lakes and rivers.
742
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,739
They had to cross the open sea itself.
743
00:41:29,739 --> 00:41:32,489
(waves crashing)
744
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,750
Experts often tell us that Egypt
745
00:41:42,750 --> 00:41:45,783
was the world's first
great maritime society,
746
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:48,840
and it's been proclaimed
747
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:53,840
that massive 60-ton Egyptian
vessels from 1800 BC
748
00:41:53,975 --> 00:41:56,133
were the world's oldest seagoing boats.
749
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,540
But according to Plato's story,
750
00:42:00,540 --> 00:42:03,510
both Greek and African seafaring
751
00:42:03,510 --> 00:42:06,573
began at least 8,000 years earlier.
752
00:42:08,430 --> 00:42:11,610
Recent discoveries are
beginning to move the needle
753
00:42:11,610 --> 00:42:12,903
in Plato's favor.
754
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,560
Scientists have discovered
obsidian tools in central Tunisia
755
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,233
that originated in the
sixth millennium BC.
756
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,300
But they come from an
island called Pantelleria,
757
00:42:27,300 --> 00:42:30,423
roughly 60 kilometers
from the Tunisian coast.
758
00:42:31,650 --> 00:42:34,350
To acquire the obsidian for these tools
759
00:42:34,350 --> 00:42:39,350
means a round trip of over 120
kilometers across open sea,
760
00:42:39,690 --> 00:42:43,140
thousands of years before
historians believed
761
00:42:43,140 --> 00:42:44,283
this was possible.
762
00:42:46,770 --> 00:42:48,810
More hard evidence in Greece
763
00:42:48,810 --> 00:42:50,850
from the era of the Atlantis myth
764
00:42:50,850 --> 00:42:54,570
suggests that at least
part of Plato's story
765
00:42:54,570 --> 00:42:56,613
is solidly rooted in fact.
766
00:42:57,570 --> 00:43:00,870
Just outside Athens is a
site called Schistou Cave,
767
00:43:00,870 --> 00:43:03,450
where people brought
offerings from prehistory,
768
00:43:03,450 --> 00:43:05,670
all the way down to Roman times.
769
00:43:05,670 --> 00:43:08,010
Obsidian tools uncovered there
770
00:43:08,010 --> 00:43:10,260
demonstrate that the
region has been inhabited
771
00:43:10,260 --> 00:43:12,690
for at least 14,000 years,
772
00:43:12,690 --> 00:43:15,840
corroborating Plato's
assertions in the myth.
773
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,680
The shocking thing about this
is not the tools themselves
774
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,430
or even the early date, but
rather where they came from,
775
00:43:23,430 --> 00:43:27,483
the island of Milos in the
center of the Aegean Sea.
776
00:43:29,070 --> 00:43:31,950
Obsidian tools and weapons from Milos
777
00:43:31,950 --> 00:43:34,923
have been recently discovered
all around the Aegean.
778
00:43:35,790 --> 00:43:39,480
Their presence tells us that
extensive seafaring trade
779
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,743
was taking place in Greece
from at least 13,000 BC.
780
00:43:44,700 --> 00:43:49,260
It also means prehistoric Greeks
were sailing long distances
781
00:43:49,260 --> 00:43:54,243
more than 3000 years before the
events of the Atlantis myth.
782
00:43:55,830 --> 00:43:58,140
So if people were
conducting trade this way
783
00:43:58,140 --> 00:44:02,493
15 millennia ago, why haven't
we found any of their boats?
784
00:44:03,720 --> 00:44:05,703
In fact, we've begun to.
785
00:44:06,914 --> 00:44:10,470
In 1987, a Nigerian man digging a well
786
00:44:10,470 --> 00:44:12,210
struck a bizarre object
787
00:44:12,210 --> 00:44:13,683
near the village of Dufuna.
788
00:44:15,780 --> 00:44:19,320
When excavated, the strange
item revealed itself
789
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,843
to be a 27-foot-long canoe.
790
00:44:22,830 --> 00:44:27,240
Dated to around 6,500 BC,
it would've been in use
791
00:44:27,240 --> 00:44:30,240
right in the middle of
the Green Sahara period,
792
00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:34,383
less than 50 kilometers from
the shores of Lake Mega-Chad.
793
00:44:35,310 --> 00:44:38,550
The Water People who used
it were linked to the lake
794
00:44:38,550 --> 00:44:41,100
by huge networks of rivers and wetlands
795
00:44:41,100 --> 00:44:42,250
that filled the region.
796
00:44:44,580 --> 00:44:46,860
Because of its skillful construction,
797
00:44:46,860 --> 00:44:49,710
experts believe the canoe
represents a tradition
798
00:44:49,710 --> 00:44:52,500
that had already
undergone long development
799
00:44:52,500 --> 00:44:53,913
in the distant past.
800
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,510
Five meters below the surface,
801
00:44:57,510 --> 00:45:01,500
layers of clay protected
the Dufuna canoe from decay
802
00:45:01,500 --> 00:45:03,423
in an oxygen-free environment.
803
00:45:04,410 --> 00:45:08,250
Without that clay, it would've
deteriorated completely,
804
00:45:08,250 --> 00:45:10,440
and ancient African boat travel
805
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,783
might have remained speculation.
806
00:45:14,610 --> 00:45:16,530
The reason more ancient boats
807
00:45:16,530 --> 00:45:19,200
aren't sitting in museums today
808
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,110
isn't because they didn't exist.
809
00:45:22,110 --> 00:45:25,803
It's simply because they were
made of organic materials.
810
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,560
Clearly, the claim that the Egyptians
811
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,740
had the earliest
seafaring boats in 1800 BC
812
00:45:31,740 --> 00:45:33,390
is simply untrue.
813
00:45:33,390 --> 00:45:36,483
Just how untrue is almost mind-blowing.
814
00:45:38,340 --> 00:45:41,130
Crete is the largest island in Greece,
815
00:45:41,130 --> 00:45:44,550
hundreds of kilometers from
the North African coast.
816
00:45:44,550 --> 00:45:48,660
It detached from the mainland
around 5 million years ago
817
00:45:48,660 --> 00:45:51,783
and has remained a
separate island ever since.
818
00:45:53,190 --> 00:45:57,960
We used to think it was first
colonized around 6,500 BC
819
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,410
and was entirely unpopulated
before that time.
820
00:46:01,410 --> 00:46:04,053
However, that thinking has changed.
821
00:46:04,950 --> 00:46:07,260
Artifacts were recently discovered,
822
00:46:07,260 --> 00:46:10,650
indicating that the first
humans must have arrived
823
00:46:10,650 --> 00:46:15,650
on Crete by sea at
least 130,000 years ago.
824
00:46:18,060 --> 00:46:21,510
The deeper we look, the more
evidence seems to appear
825
00:46:21,510 --> 00:46:23,580
in support of Plato's assertion
826
00:46:23,580 --> 00:46:26,010
that seafaring isn't a new story.
827
00:46:26,010 --> 00:46:27,603
It's a very old story.
828
00:46:29,790 --> 00:46:33,030
If Greek or Atlantean armies
829
00:46:33,030 --> 00:46:37,743
wanted to cross the Mediterranean
Sea by ship in 9,600 BC,
830
00:46:38,940 --> 00:46:40,143
it was possible.
831
00:46:42,694 --> 00:46:45,361
(calming music)
832
00:46:46,890 --> 00:46:49,620
As astonishing as the
facts we've unearthed are,
833
00:46:49,620 --> 00:46:53,040
there are some major missing
pieces to the Atlantis puzzle.
834
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:54,720
Not all of Plato's descriptions
835
00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:57,240
seem to represent a realistic portrayal
836
00:46:57,240 --> 00:46:59,763
of ancient West Africa in 9,600 BC.
837
00:47:01,650 --> 00:47:04,590
Let's revisit some of the myth's claims.
838
00:47:04,590 --> 00:47:06,930
We're told of a ringed capital city
839
00:47:06,930 --> 00:47:09,240
nearly 40 kilometers across,
840
00:47:09,240 --> 00:47:11,340
set into a huge pointed island
841
00:47:11,340 --> 00:47:13,563
in the center of the Atlantean continent.
842
00:47:14,670 --> 00:47:18,210
It was filled with glorious
buildings and temples,
843
00:47:18,210 --> 00:47:21,363
as well as harbors bustling
with trade from all over.
844
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,480
The city's massive stone walls,
845
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,760
over 30 meters wide, and
dozens of kilometers long
846
00:47:28,650 --> 00:47:31,740
were supposedly covered in copper, tin,
847
00:47:31,740 --> 00:47:33,963
and a sparkling metal called orichalcum.
848
00:47:36,150 --> 00:47:39,780
The inhabitants of the
capital region were farmers
849
00:47:39,780 --> 00:47:42,180
who harvested crops twice a year
850
00:47:42,180 --> 00:47:44,650
with the aid of an
enormous irrigation system
851
00:47:45,660 --> 00:47:48,783
comprising thousands of
kilometers of canals.
852
00:47:50,730 --> 00:47:54,270
This kingdom, one of 10
that made up the empire,
853
00:47:54,270 --> 00:47:59,270
was said to field an army of
over a million men by itself
854
00:47:59,340 --> 00:48:02,340
with a navy of 1200 ships -
855
00:48:02,340 --> 00:48:05,583
greater than any known
fleet of the ancient world.
856
00:48:08,370 --> 00:48:13,323
Could all these things
have been true in 9,600 BC?
857
00:48:18,180 --> 00:48:19,013
Metallurgy.
858
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,200
The Atlantis myth claims
859
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,813
the empire made widespread use of metal.
860
00:48:25,710 --> 00:48:29,010
The current narrative of
ancient African metallurgy
861
00:48:29,010 --> 00:48:31,290
doesn't support Plato's descriptions
862
00:48:31,290 --> 00:48:35,400
of copper, silver, bronze, or gold
863
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:36,930
being used in large amounts
864
00:48:36,930 --> 00:48:39,753
by early Holocene people in West Africa.
865
00:48:41,070 --> 00:48:42,840
Humanity's use of copper
866
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,983
did begin as early as 10,000
BC in other locations,
867
00:48:47,970 --> 00:48:50,910
but we usually find it
only in small tools,
868
00:48:50,910 --> 00:48:52,743
spear tips or jewelry beads.
869
00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:57,540
Plato's descriptions of
kilometers-long walls
870
00:48:57,540 --> 00:49:01,653
clad with sheets of tin and
copper simply can't be real.
871
00:49:04,830 --> 00:49:06,060
Agriculture.
872
00:49:06,060 --> 00:49:09,450
While semi-domesticated
grains from the early Holocene
873
00:49:09,450 --> 00:49:13,170
have been found in Egypt
at sites like Nabta Playa,
874
00:49:13,170 --> 00:49:17,340
so far, there's no evidence
of farming in Western Africa
875
00:49:17,340 --> 00:49:19,920
until around 3000 BC,
876
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,523
and then only at one
isolated site in Morocco.
877
00:49:26,490 --> 00:49:27,323
Irrigation.
878
00:49:28,770 --> 00:49:32,190
Appearing along the Nile
for over 5,000 years,
879
00:49:32,190 --> 00:49:36,510
and later used at large scale
in Libya by the Garamantes,
880
00:49:36,510 --> 00:49:39,870
irrigation has been
found in few other places
881
00:49:39,870 --> 00:49:41,793
across North Africa to date.
882
00:49:43,980 --> 00:49:44,823
Population.
883
00:49:46,110 --> 00:49:49,470
To support the 1.6 million-man army
884
00:49:49,470 --> 00:49:52,470
of just one of the 10 Atlantean kingdoms
885
00:49:52,470 --> 00:49:56,040
would've required a population
six times that size,
886
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,140
bordering on 10 million.
887
00:49:58,140 --> 00:50:01,647
Ancient population numbers are
being revised upward today,
888
00:50:01,647 --> 00:50:03,750
and the best estimates we have
889
00:50:03,750 --> 00:50:06,420
are between one and 10 million people,
890
00:50:06,420 --> 00:50:08,823
but that's across the entire planet.
891
00:50:10,980 --> 00:50:11,813
Cities.
892
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:19,170
Athens, Sais, and the ringed
capital city of Atlantis
893
00:50:19,170 --> 00:50:20,700
were all supposed to have existed
894
00:50:20,700 --> 00:50:23,790
more than 10,000 years
ago according to the myth.
895
00:50:24,870 --> 00:50:26,460
While early cities did exist
896
00:50:26,460 --> 00:50:28,980
in the Middle East during that timeframe,
897
00:50:28,980 --> 00:50:31,650
so far nothing matching
Plato's descriptions
898
00:50:31,650 --> 00:50:32,613
has been unearthed.
899
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,993
There's another important concern as well.
900
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,160
Not everyone agrees about the nature
901
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,170
and extent of the waterways
902
00:50:43,170 --> 00:50:45,753
that existed in the Green Sahara period.
903
00:50:47,250 --> 00:50:49,950
It's possible the map of Atlantis
904
00:50:49,950 --> 00:50:53,193
didn't look exactly the
way it's been theorized.
905
00:50:55,620 --> 00:50:57,540
Does this mean that the vision
906
00:50:57,540 --> 00:51:01,290
of an ancient African Atlantean city
907
00:51:01,290 --> 00:51:03,753
is nothing more than just a fantasy?
908
00:51:07,590 --> 00:51:10,500
Mysterious stone
structures have been found
909
00:51:10,500 --> 00:51:11,823
across the Sahara.
910
00:51:15,240 --> 00:51:16,983
What do these structures mean?
911
00:51:20,790 --> 00:51:22,323
What was their purpose?
912
00:51:26,370 --> 00:51:28,023
Are they burial sites?
913
00:51:32,340 --> 00:51:35,193
Were they places of ritual and sacrifice?
914
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,413
Or the remnants of
defensive fortifications?
915
00:51:42,060 --> 00:51:45,870
Were they outposts of a
dying Atlantean empire
916
00:51:45,870 --> 00:51:49,803
whose constructs faded into dust long ago?
917
00:51:52,860 --> 00:51:54,570
While they are intriguing,
918
00:51:54,570 --> 00:51:56,940
most of these structures
are thought to date
919
00:51:56,940 --> 00:51:59,223
from a few thousand years BC,
920
00:52:00,780 --> 00:52:02,700
and in no way do they resemble
921
00:52:02,700 --> 00:52:05,673
the grand Atlantean city of the myth.
922
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,880
There's good reason not to
believe Plato's myth was true,
923
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,330
even if Atlantis was an
ancient name for West Africa,
924
00:52:15,330 --> 00:52:18,000
and Green Sahara waterways
partitioned it in some way
925
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,710
from the rest of the continent.
926
00:52:19,710 --> 00:52:22,770
Other aspects of the tale are ambiguous,
927
00:52:22,770 --> 00:52:24,750
but there's one major piece of evidence
928
00:52:24,750 --> 00:52:27,840
that's difficult for skeptics to dismiss.
929
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,410
If George was right about
the location of Atlantis,
930
00:52:31,410 --> 00:52:34,950
then exactly in the center
of the curved continent,
931
00:52:34,950 --> 00:52:38,320
there should be the remains
of a ringed capital city
932
00:52:39,210 --> 00:52:42,384
roughly 40 kilometers across.
933
00:52:42,384 --> 00:52:45,134
(dramatic music)
934
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,730
The Richat Structure is a
prominent circular feature
935
00:52:50,730 --> 00:52:53,493
in the Adrar plateau in Mauritania.
936
00:52:54,450 --> 00:52:57,000
It developed due to tectonic activity
937
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,403
going back hundreds of millions of years.
938
00:53:00,240 --> 00:53:03,510
Today, it appears as concentric rings,
939
00:53:03,510 --> 00:53:06,663
a circular structure unique on our planet.
940
00:53:08,790 --> 00:53:11,460
Because of its roughly 40 kilometer size
941
00:53:11,460 --> 00:53:13,290
and relative flatness,
942
00:53:13,290 --> 00:53:16,233
it cannot be seen from
land in its entirety.
943
00:53:18,540 --> 00:53:21,780
Freshwater fossils
confirm the general area
944
00:53:21,780 --> 00:53:24,873
was once home to significant
amounts of water.
945
00:53:25,740 --> 00:53:27,090
In the early Holocene,
946
00:53:27,090 --> 00:53:30,483
the Richat might have been
a fisherman's paradise.
947
00:53:33,030 --> 00:53:36,600
Scientists who examined
the site in the 1970s
948
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:40,530
discovered huge amounts of
stone tools in the sediments
949
00:53:40,530 --> 00:53:41,883
of the ringed valleys.
950
00:53:43,350 --> 00:53:47,613
Was this the lost
capital city of Atlantis?
951
00:53:48,630 --> 00:53:52,560
George took one more step
most people might not.
952
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:57,300
- So I took the plane, went
there with my instruments
953
00:53:57,300 --> 00:54:00,960
and measured all these formations
954
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,993
that were referred to
in the Platonic text.
955
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:06,900
- [Jack] A professional engineer,
956
00:54:06,900 --> 00:54:10,020
George traveled to the Richat in 2008
957
00:54:10,020 --> 00:54:13,983
with a small team of locals
and took GPS measurements,
958
00:54:14,850 --> 00:54:17,133
along with readings from altimeters.
959
00:54:19,020 --> 00:54:21,240
His results matched exceptionally well
960
00:54:21,240 --> 00:54:24,270
with the shape he had derived analytically
961
00:54:24,270 --> 00:54:25,833
from Plato's texts.
962
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:32,463
- Could you think that I could
be calm after that discovery?
963
00:54:35,070 --> 00:54:38,220
- George's new translation
finally illuminated
964
00:54:38,220 --> 00:54:43,110
certain vague nuances that
were proven out on location.
965
00:54:43,110 --> 00:54:45,930
There is not one outer ring, but two.
966
00:54:45,930 --> 00:54:48,000
One of the rings is a twin ring,
967
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,540
another small ring encloses
the central sacred aisle.
968
00:54:51,540 --> 00:54:53,490
Furthermore, there is a canal
969
00:54:53,490 --> 00:54:56,280
parallel to an original natural waterway.
970
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,850
It connects to the sea with
a flow that is synitetrito,
971
00:54:59,850 --> 00:55:02,700
involving harbors facing one another.
972
00:55:02,700 --> 00:55:04,830
There is also an oddly placed
973
00:55:04,830 --> 00:55:08,490
nine and a half kilometer canal
along the next inner ring,
974
00:55:08,490 --> 00:55:12,663
and thus the picture we get
of the city looks like this.
975
00:55:14,670 --> 00:55:17,040
If the resemblance of the Richat structure
976
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,760
to Plato's geography
is just a coincidence,
977
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,803
it is a remarkable coincidence.
978
00:55:24,450 --> 00:55:27,930
But there was no prize
awarded to George Sarantitis,
979
00:55:27,930 --> 00:55:29,373
or Ticker-tape parade.
980
00:55:30,450 --> 00:55:33,150
Instead, one person after another
981
00:55:33,150 --> 00:55:35,190
cashed in on his years of research
982
00:55:35,190 --> 00:55:37,680
without really understanding it.
983
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,890
Many of them made outlandish suggestions,
984
00:55:40,890 --> 00:55:42,420
stating that ocean levels
985
00:55:42,420 --> 00:55:45,330
were hundreds of meters
higher in the Holocene,
986
00:55:45,330 --> 00:55:49,860
claiming that continent-sweeping
floods purged North Africa,
987
00:55:49,860 --> 00:55:50,943
or worse.
988
00:55:50,943 --> 00:55:53,040
It seems unlikely
989
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,643
that any of these fringe
theorists speak Ancient Greek.
990
00:55:57,780 --> 00:56:01,410
- You have to prove according
to the Platonic text
991
00:56:01,410 --> 00:56:03,390
where Atlantis is.
992
00:56:03,390 --> 00:56:05,940
- In Plato's writings,
a philosopher is one
993
00:56:05,940 --> 00:56:08,880
who seeks the truth and
develops a true understanding
994
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,800
of the subject at hand.
995
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,430
A sophist by contrast,
might hold a true opinion,
996
00:56:14,430 --> 00:56:17,630
but they lack any real
knowledge of what underpins it.
997
00:56:17,630 --> 00:56:20,010
It ought to be clear by
now to which category
998
00:56:20,010 --> 00:56:22,683
George belongs versus his imitators.
999
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:28,520
- Believe me, it was
a very difficult task.
1000
00:56:30,006 --> 00:56:32,673
(calming music)
1001
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,360
- At last we come to a final question.
1002
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,330
Atlantis was supposed to
have sunk into the sea,
1003
00:56:39,330 --> 00:56:41,403
disappearing in a single day and night.
1004
00:56:42,270 --> 00:56:44,580
I'm here at Mount Lycabettus in Athens,
1005
00:56:44,580 --> 00:56:48,060
277 meters above sea level.
1006
00:56:48,060 --> 00:56:52,200
Even if every single ice sheet
on the entire planet melted,
1007
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,410
the rising oceans would
not even come close
1008
00:56:55,410 --> 00:56:57,570
to where I'm sitting right now.
1009
00:56:57,570 --> 00:57:01,560
- This misunderstanding has been created
1010
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,290
because of two characteristic words
1011
00:57:04,290 --> 00:57:06,453
which exist in the Platonic text.
1012
00:57:07,470 --> 00:57:11,645
One word is the word "thisa,"
1013
00:57:11,645 --> 00:57:14,761
and the other is "izomani."
1014
00:57:15,729 --> 00:57:20,555
Thisa was wrongly
translated to "submerged,"
1015
00:57:24,030 --> 00:57:27,763
but when you have poeticoetio,
1016
00:57:27,763 --> 00:57:29,820
a special condition
1017
00:57:29,820 --> 00:57:33,153
where the energy of a verb
returns to the subject,
1018
00:57:34,110 --> 00:57:38,400
then this verb has different meaning,
1019
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,823
and the meaning actually is "covered."
1020
00:57:42,900 --> 00:57:47,900
So we are talking about two
totally different meanings.
1021
00:57:48,390 --> 00:57:50,793
"Sank" - wrong translation,
1022
00:57:51,630 --> 00:57:56,630
or it's steady and was covered by the sea.
1023
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:02,460
The actual meaning of izomani
1024
00:58:02,460 --> 00:58:06,593
is that it was settled
1025
00:58:06,593 --> 00:58:09,660
and not inundated.
1026
00:58:09,660 --> 00:58:14,313
It's definitely impossible
to have a flooded continent.
1027
00:58:15,660 --> 00:58:19,830
The rhombic island was also not flooded.
1028
00:58:19,830 --> 00:58:24,830
But what was flooded is the
capital city of Atlantis.
1029
00:58:25,950 --> 00:58:29,670
- Plato never wrote that an
island or a continent sank.
1030
00:58:29,670 --> 00:58:32,520
Instead, the destruction of Atlantis
1031
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,800
would've gone something like this.
1032
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,250
First, a huge earthquake in the region
1033
00:58:38,250 --> 00:58:39,693
of the rhombic island.
1034
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:45,600
Second, an influx of water
from an adjacent inland sea.
1035
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,270
This may have been
combined with liquefaction
1036
00:58:48,270 --> 00:58:51,240
of water-saturated land
on the rhombic island,
1037
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,070
causing a landslide.
1038
00:58:53,070 --> 00:58:56,883
Either of these could have
caused a localized tsunami.
1039
00:58:58,020 --> 00:59:00,690
Third, after the liquefaction,
1040
00:59:00,690 --> 00:59:02,790
loose clay stopped up the drainage
1041
00:59:02,790 --> 00:59:06,090
of excess water from
the ringed capital city.
1042
00:59:06,090 --> 00:59:09,390
It alone was flooded as a consequence.
1043
00:59:09,390 --> 00:59:13,260
Lastly, as the Green
Sahara monsoons continued,
1044
00:59:13,260 --> 00:59:17,253
runoff arrived and kept the
Richat Structure full of water.
1045
00:59:18,090 --> 00:59:22,230
Allegedly it was still
swamped around 600 BC
1046
00:59:22,230 --> 00:59:25,653
when the Egyptian priest
told Solon the story.
1047
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:30,450
I met with Oregon State
University earthquake expert
1048
00:59:30,450 --> 00:59:32,220
Dr. Scott Ashford,
1049
00:59:32,220 --> 00:59:35,580
to see if George's
description was possible.
1050
00:59:35,580 --> 00:59:40,580
- Is there any way that a
tsunami could sink a continent?
1051
00:59:40,610 --> 00:59:41,940
The answer is no.
1052
00:59:41,940 --> 00:59:46,020
The amount of energy that is
generated in the earthquake
1053
00:59:46,020 --> 00:59:47,628
and then the amount of energy
1054
00:59:47,628 --> 00:59:50,110
that it carries in that tsunami
1055
00:59:51,030 --> 00:59:54,060
is nothing compared to what it would take
1056
00:59:54,060 --> 00:59:56,100
to sink a continent.
1057
00:59:56,100 --> 01:00:00,960
But are there ways that an
earthquake and a tsunami
1058
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,000
could destroy a city, remove a city,
1059
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:07,620
make it look like it's been
wiped off the face of the earth?
1060
01:00:07,620 --> 01:00:09,240
- [Jack] Mauritania isn't known
1061
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,600
for strong seismic
activity in recent decades,
1062
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,410
but smaller earthquakes do
tend to cluster around a region
1063
01:00:16,410 --> 01:00:19,080
to the north of the rhombic island.
1064
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:20,850
- Can we get a big earthquake in an area
1065
01:00:20,850 --> 01:00:23,760
that where we don't
normally have earthquakes?
1066
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,850
And certainly the Pacific
Northwest is a great example.
1067
01:00:26,850 --> 01:00:31,850
We get these great earthquakes
every 300, 400, or 500 years.
1068
01:00:32,550 --> 01:00:35,070
Sometimes there's a thousand years
1069
01:00:35,070 --> 01:00:38,340
between these great earthquakes.
1070
01:00:38,340 --> 01:00:41,280
- [Jack] The deadliest
earthquake in recorded history
1071
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:45,630
was likely Shaanxi China in 1556,
1072
01:00:45,630 --> 01:00:50,630
where an area 520 miles across
was completely destroyed
1073
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:55,773
and an estimated 830,000
people were killed.
1074
01:00:56,730 --> 01:01:00,100
- An earthquake in Japan last decade
1075
01:01:00,990 --> 01:01:03,780
caused thousands of landslides
1076
01:01:03,780 --> 01:01:06,210
just because it happened to take place
1077
01:01:06,210 --> 01:01:07,890
during the rainy season.
1078
01:01:07,890 --> 01:01:10,710
If you were to walk on
liquefaction, it would look,
1079
01:01:10,710 --> 01:01:12,480
it would be like quick sand,
1080
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,370
and you'd just sink right into it.
1081
01:01:14,370 --> 01:01:17,040
The sand loses all its strength.
1082
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,590
The slope will fail,
will cause a landslide.
1083
01:01:19,590 --> 01:01:20,700
In the Hawaiian islands,
1084
01:01:20,700 --> 01:01:23,850
part of one of the islands slid away,
1085
01:01:23,850 --> 01:01:28,560
caused a tsunami that affected
the the nearby islands.
1086
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:32,070
- [Jack] If the adjacent sea
was struck by an earthquake,
1087
01:01:32,070 --> 01:01:35,370
or if a huge landslide plunged
into the rings of water
1088
01:01:35,370 --> 01:01:37,830
around the Atlantean capital city,
1089
01:01:37,830 --> 01:01:40,920
it would've created a powerful tsunami,
1090
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:44,640
one of the deadliest
natural disasters on earth.
1091
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:48,728
- If you have a landslide
that falls into a small sea
1092
01:01:48,728 --> 01:01:51,900
or a big lake, it causes a wave,
1093
01:01:51,900 --> 01:01:55,710
and that wave hits a nearby town,
1094
01:01:55,710 --> 01:01:59,520
certainly that can wash away
some of the smaller structures,
1095
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,560
depends how big it is.
1096
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:05,880
So this huge machine behind
me is our tsunami wave basin,
1097
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:09,630
and there are paddles along the back
1098
01:02:09,630 --> 01:02:12,240
that are computer-controlled
1099
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:16,800
and allow us to generate
almost any kind of wave.
1100
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,920
We've actually had a
scale model of some cities
1101
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:24,920
and we look at what is the
effect of a tsunami on this town.
1102
01:02:25,061 --> 01:02:27,978
(machine whirring)
1103
01:02:33,514 --> 01:02:36,264
(waves crashing)
1104
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:43,650
- It gives you that feeling
of what a real disaster
1105
01:02:43,650 --> 01:02:44,483
would've looked like.
1106
01:02:44,483 --> 01:02:45,316
- Yeah.
1107
01:02:49,157 --> 01:02:52,320
(waves crashing)
1108
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:53,547
- That's a tsunami.
1109
01:02:54,927 --> 01:02:58,440
How do these natural disasters interact?
1110
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,330
A tsunami or landslide,
1111
01:03:00,330 --> 01:03:03,390
it carries all the debris along with it.
1112
01:03:03,390 --> 01:03:06,660
I've seen the sand almost
look like toothpaste
1113
01:03:06,660 --> 01:03:09,300
filling up all the drainage canals.
1114
01:03:09,300 --> 01:03:10,830
As the water dissipates,
1115
01:03:10,830 --> 01:03:14,580
it's gonna leave your drainage
system filled with dirt.
1116
01:03:14,580 --> 01:03:17,250
If you have flooding after that,
1117
01:03:17,250 --> 01:03:19,050
there's nowhere for the water to go.
1118
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:24,090
Plato - the way that he
describes different events
1119
01:03:24,090 --> 01:03:27,660
has truth as far as what we observe today.
1120
01:03:27,660 --> 01:03:31,590
Flooding, earthquakes,
liquefaction, landslides,
1121
01:03:31,590 --> 01:03:35,010
any of those could have
destroyed the settlement,
1122
01:03:35,010 --> 01:03:37,530
making the town unviable.
1123
01:03:37,530 --> 01:03:40,290
While there may be some damage,
they also may not be able
1124
01:03:40,290 --> 01:03:44,883
to continue their commerce,
and the town still dies.
1125
01:03:49,260 --> 01:03:52,080
- Ever since George's ideas became known,
1126
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:55,230
adventurers have gone to
the Mauritanian desert,
1127
01:03:55,230 --> 01:03:57,813
looking for the remains of a lost city.
1128
01:03:59,190 --> 01:04:01,530
In 2020, satellite images
1129
01:04:01,530 --> 01:04:05,220
allowed for the discovery
of hundreds of stone ruins
1130
01:04:05,220 --> 01:04:07,170
in the Richat area.
1131
01:04:07,170 --> 01:04:10,440
These ruins, however remain undated,
1132
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:14,850
and even if found to
originate close to 9,600 BC,
1133
01:04:14,850 --> 01:04:17,700
they are a far cry from the massive city
1134
01:04:17,700 --> 01:04:19,260
described in the myth.
1135
01:04:19,260 --> 01:04:22,830
Mighty palaces, irrigation systems,
1136
01:04:22,830 --> 01:04:27,210
temples, gymnasiums,
boat houses cut in stone,
1137
01:04:27,210 --> 01:04:30,960
and city walls, dozens of kilometers long.
1138
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,690
Here, in the details of the city,
1139
01:04:33,690 --> 01:04:38,310
perhaps we are encountering
some of Plato's untruths.
1140
01:04:38,310 --> 01:04:40,740
Today, we tend to associate
great civilizations
1141
01:04:40,740 --> 01:04:43,080
with Titanic works of architecture,
1142
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,750
as did the Ancient Egyptians and Greeks.
1143
01:04:45,750 --> 01:04:47,880
But the construction of large temples,
1144
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:49,980
fortifications and palaces
1145
01:04:49,980 --> 01:04:52,230
only makes sense if a large population
1146
01:04:52,230 --> 01:04:55,473
is dwelling in a single area
for an extended period of time.
1147
01:04:56,430 --> 01:04:59,013
What if our ancestors didn't?
1148
01:05:00,180 --> 01:05:04,590
The Mongolian Empire was the
largest contiguous land empire
1149
01:05:04,590 --> 01:05:06,240
in human history,
1150
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,570
conquering everyone they
found in their path.
1151
01:05:09,570 --> 01:05:13,350
Living on the move, they
weren't prolific builders.
1152
01:05:13,350 --> 01:05:16,950
They were a free-ranging
nomadic population
1153
01:05:16,950 --> 01:05:19,650
that still maintained a few permanent
1154
01:05:19,650 --> 01:05:22,530
or semi-permanent settlements.
1155
01:05:22,530 --> 01:05:26,763
This pattern was almost
universal in the early Holocene.
1156
01:05:28,230 --> 01:05:30,870
Temporary camps and seasonal movement
1157
01:05:30,870 --> 01:05:32,673
were the default way of life.
1158
01:05:33,570 --> 01:05:37,800
In fact, the nomadic lifestyle
dominated North Africa
1159
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,950
all the way until colonialism arrived.
1160
01:05:40,950 --> 01:05:42,990
Some, like the Tuareg,
1161
01:05:42,990 --> 01:05:45,120
maintained their traditional ways
1162
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,043
up to the early 20th century.
1163
01:05:49,620 --> 01:05:52,260
Maybe the idea of the Atlantean capital
1164
01:05:52,260 --> 01:05:53,850
sprang from later people,
1165
01:05:53,850 --> 01:05:55,980
the Egyptians and Greeks.
1166
01:05:55,980 --> 01:05:58,770
They might have imposed their
own cultural assumptions
1167
01:05:58,770 --> 01:06:02,553
about architecture onto the
story of the Atlantean empire,
1168
01:06:03,660 --> 01:06:05,800
dreaming up an enormous capital city
1169
01:06:06,810 --> 01:06:10,080
where in fact only
hunter-gatherer villages
1170
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,663
and fishing encampments once existed.
1171
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,440
Whoever discovered bits of such ruins
1172
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,780
and stone tools around the Richat
1173
01:06:18,780 --> 01:06:19,980
might have inferred
1174
01:06:19,980 --> 01:06:23,070
that they were tiny
remnants of an epic city
1175
01:06:23,070 --> 01:06:25,563
that met its destruction long in the past.
1176
01:06:27,570 --> 01:06:29,490
With certain embellishments,
1177
01:06:29,490 --> 01:06:34,110
perhaps the myth of Atlantis
does record the last vestiges
1178
01:06:34,110 --> 01:06:37,323
of a great ancient African empire.
1179
01:06:39,300 --> 01:06:41,190
But there must be dozens of ways
1180
01:06:41,190 --> 01:06:43,443
the story could have come down to us.
1181
01:06:46,170 --> 01:06:48,930
Was it made up by ancient Mauritanians
1182
01:06:48,930 --> 01:06:52,080
to explain a puzzling geographic feature
1183
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:56,133
and found its way to Egypt
over time via trade caravans?
1184
01:06:57,570 --> 01:07:00,930
Was the Atlantean culture
completely fabricated
1185
01:07:00,930 --> 01:07:02,280
or was its description
1186
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:05,610
by the Egyptian priest
true in some respects
1187
01:07:05,610 --> 01:07:06,873
and not in others?
1188
01:07:07,980 --> 01:07:11,490
Was the story based on
a real cultural memory
1189
01:07:11,490 --> 01:07:15,900
of Niger-Congo hunters attacking
Nile Valley civilization
1190
01:07:15,900 --> 01:07:17,403
at the dawn of the Holocene?
1191
01:07:18,510 --> 01:07:21,450
Was it enhanced with reports of ruins
1192
01:07:21,450 --> 01:07:23,673
at a far-off ringed landmark?
1193
01:07:24,630 --> 01:07:25,980
Did the priests of Sais
1194
01:07:25,980 --> 01:07:29,670
invent certain dramatic
aspects as allegory?
1195
01:07:29,670 --> 01:07:33,663
Or did Solon, Critias, or Plato himself?
1196
01:07:35,220 --> 01:07:37,560
At each step along the way,
1197
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:42,183
changes might have been
made, facts confused,
1198
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:45,783
or elements invented.
1199
01:07:48,390 --> 01:07:53,390
There's simply no way to know
the truth with 100% certainty.
1200
01:07:54,690 --> 01:07:58,680
But what if we're asking
the wrong questions?
1201
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:01,080
Plato's intent with the myth of Atlantis
1202
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,090
might have had nothing at all to do with
1203
01:08:03,090 --> 01:08:05,940
where it supposedly
was or who lived there.
1204
01:08:05,940 --> 01:08:07,950
It might have had everything to do
1205
01:08:07,950 --> 01:08:10,849
with how we understand
our distant human past
1206
01:08:10,849 --> 01:08:13,516
and how we think in the present.
1207
01:08:27,450 --> 01:08:29,310
The Atlantis myth has had people
1208
01:08:29,310 --> 01:08:32,340
chasing lost continents for millennia,
1209
01:08:32,340 --> 01:08:35,100
and yet most of us have failed to ask
1210
01:08:35,100 --> 01:08:40,100
why Plato cared so much about
this particular ancient tale.
1211
01:08:41,820 --> 01:08:44,340
The fundamental theme appears to be
1212
01:08:44,340 --> 01:08:46,290
the destruction of Atlantis
1213
01:08:46,290 --> 01:08:48,843
due to hubris and moral corruption.
1214
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:55,173
But the story isn't about the
loss of just one civilization.
1215
01:08:56,460 --> 01:09:00,570
It takes an Egyptian priest
with a temple full of records
1216
01:09:00,570 --> 01:09:02,520
to make the Greeks realize
1217
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:05,943
that they have completely
lost their own past.
1218
01:09:06,870 --> 01:09:11,823
Is this myth more about Atlantis
or the ancient Athenians?
1219
01:09:13,710 --> 01:09:15,150
In Plato's era,
1220
01:09:15,150 --> 01:09:18,840
the Greeks knew a legendary
people had preceded them
1221
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:22,020
and had possessed writing
that was later lost,
1222
01:09:22,020 --> 01:09:24,753
along with all the history it represented.
1223
01:09:26,100 --> 01:09:30,753
In fact, Greece had writing
from at least 1850 BC.
1224
01:09:31,620 --> 01:09:35,913
One script we know of,
Linear B, lasted centuries,
1225
01:09:36,870 --> 01:09:39,270
but it all vanished when the great palaces
1226
01:09:39,270 --> 01:09:43,680
of the Mycenaeans were destroyed
in the 12th century BC.
1227
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:47,490
For hundreds of years afterward,
the Greeks were illiterate
1228
01:09:47,490 --> 01:09:49,803
before writing was reinvented.
1229
01:09:52,950 --> 01:09:56,040
This same theme of
civilizational destruction
1230
01:09:56,040 --> 01:10:00,633
and cultural loss was also
present in Plato's own time.
1231
01:10:02,130 --> 01:10:06,510
Not only did he experience
decades of war himself,
1232
01:10:06,510 --> 01:10:09,300
but two generations before he was born,
1233
01:10:09,300 --> 01:10:13,293
Athens was utterly destroyed
by an invading Persian army.
1234
01:10:14,250 --> 01:10:16,353
Nearly everything was lost,
1235
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,370
and yet even when the most sacred temples
1236
01:10:20,370 --> 01:10:25,370
were sacked and burned, the
core myths of Greek culture,
1237
01:10:25,830 --> 01:10:29,073
the Iliad and the Odyssey lived on.
1238
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:35,970
Plato realized that myth
might be the most durable way
1239
01:10:35,970 --> 01:10:39,243
of preserving knowledge
and wisdom across time.
1240
01:10:40,237 --> 01:10:42,540
(dramatic music)
1241
01:10:42,540 --> 01:10:45,363
Atlantis, a story of destruction,
1242
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:51,200
simultaneously acts as a tool
for cultural preservation.
1243
01:10:52,770 --> 01:10:56,100
Functioning as an ancient time capsule,
1244
01:10:56,100 --> 01:11:00,330
this myth allows us to
ponder the same questions
1245
01:11:00,330 --> 01:11:04,563
he posed to his students
more than 2000 years ago.
1246
01:11:08,850 --> 01:11:11,130
How can we know ourselves as a culture
1247
01:11:11,130 --> 01:11:13,053
if we have forgotten our past?
1248
01:11:14,940 --> 01:11:16,890
How do we know what is true
1249
01:11:16,890 --> 01:11:19,623
if we have no records of what happened?
1250
01:11:21,750 --> 01:11:25,320
How do we preserve the
continuity of civilization,
1251
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:28,230
knowing that disasters will strike
1252
01:11:28,230 --> 01:11:31,563
and that everything can be so easily lost?
1253
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:35,670
We shouldn't be surprised
1254
01:11:35,670 --> 01:11:38,910
that Plato's myth is
something very different
1255
01:11:38,910 --> 01:11:41,190
from what we might expect.
1256
01:11:41,190 --> 01:11:45,483
A profound teaching device
in the form of a puzzle.
1257
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:49,470
- Do not underestimate any detail.
1258
01:11:49,470 --> 01:11:54,470
It's a very high scientific document,
1259
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:59,067
and you can use it to teach either a child
1260
01:11:59,067 --> 01:12:00,526
or an initiate.
1261
01:12:05,970 --> 01:12:09,543
- A modern puzzle has a
single solution or answer,
1262
01:12:10,860 --> 01:12:13,620
but the Atlantis myth presents an entirely
1263
01:12:13,620 --> 01:12:15,660
different kind of puzzle.
1264
01:12:15,660 --> 01:12:17,910
A multi-layered apparatus,
1265
01:12:17,910 --> 01:12:21,720
designed for improving
your thinking, yourself
1266
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:24,060
and how you see the world,
1267
01:12:24,060 --> 01:12:27,663
a world where everything
is richly connected.
1268
01:12:29,550 --> 01:12:32,190
Plato's best students
knew all the writings
1269
01:12:32,190 --> 01:12:37,190
and historical events we've
covered: the Odyssey, the Iliad,
1270
01:12:37,367 --> 01:12:39,150
Herodotus's history,
1271
01:12:39,150 --> 01:12:42,273
the Persian wars and
the Peloponnesian War.
1272
01:12:43,710 --> 01:12:46,320
Given the keen minds of this audience,
1273
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:49,953
Plato could freely play
with a vast array of ideas.
1274
01:12:51,030 --> 01:12:54,090
If you look hard, you may begin to notice
1275
01:12:54,090 --> 01:12:56,973
certain connections and double meanings.
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01:12:58,740 --> 01:13:00,990
The size of the Atlantean military
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01:13:00,990 --> 01:13:04,950
recalls Greek estimates of
the army that destroyed Athens
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01:13:04,950 --> 01:13:06,213
in the Persian war.
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01:13:07,710 --> 01:13:11,070
The sequence of the
Atlantean war echoes the flow
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01:13:11,070 --> 01:13:15,030
of the Peloponnesian war
between Athens and Sparta
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01:13:15,030 --> 01:13:17,880
that shook Greece to its foundation
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01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:21,333
just as it began to recover
from fending off the Persians.
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01:13:23,250 --> 01:13:25,800
Or perhaps you'll see
how Plato requires you
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01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:29,040
to bend your thinking when he writes
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01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:30,720
that the length of Atlantis
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01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,303
is longer than Libya and Asia together.
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01:13:34,380 --> 01:13:37,320
This distance is only definable
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01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:39,420
if we realize that the phrase
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01:13:39,420 --> 01:13:43,140
is nearly word for word from Herodotus
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01:13:43,140 --> 01:13:46,320
when he describes the length of Europe.
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01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,960
And this length doesn't fit Atlantis
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01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,060
unless we curve it into an arc
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01:13:51,060 --> 01:13:52,923
to follow the shape of the continent.
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01:13:54,780 --> 01:13:57,570
Moving away from thinking
in a straight line
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01:13:57,570 --> 01:14:01,080
is powerfully emblematic
of the approach it takes
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01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,963
to reach the hidden
meaning in Plato's myth.
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01:14:05,670 --> 01:14:07,410
This becomes most apparent
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01:14:07,410 --> 01:14:09,750
in the journey from familiar waters
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01:14:09,750 --> 01:14:12,873
into the unknown lands of Atlantis.
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01:14:20,190 --> 01:14:23,460
To get to Atlantis, one first had to pass
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01:14:23,460 --> 01:14:24,783
the Pillars of Heracles,
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01:14:26,370 --> 01:14:30,240
but the word Plato used
for the pillars, stela,
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01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,050
didn't mean a structural column
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01:14:33,030 --> 01:14:36,333
or natural formation like
the Rock of Gibraltar.
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01:14:37,448 --> 01:14:40,500
A stela was a commemorative stone plaque,
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01:14:40,500 --> 01:14:44,400
something demarcating the
edge of Greek expansion,
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01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:46,683
the limits of what was known.
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01:14:47,700 --> 01:14:49,830
When you pass by this marker,
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01:14:49,830 --> 01:14:53,340
you enter an enormous uncertain territory
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01:14:53,340 --> 01:14:56,733
that you must navigate
completely on your own.
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01:14:59,190 --> 01:15:04,083
It is exactly this territory
that Plato wants us to seek.
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01:15:05,130 --> 01:15:10,110
To succeed there, you'll have
to look past easy answers,
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01:15:10,110 --> 01:15:12,123
leaving linear thinking behind.
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01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:15,960
And you'll only find your way
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01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,600
by grappling with conflicting information
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01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:21,273
and complexities at the same time.
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01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,630
Perhaps Atlantis signifies
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01:15:24,630 --> 01:15:26,250
that while the knowledge of the moment
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01:15:26,250 --> 01:15:28,470
may crumble and fade with time,
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01:15:28,470 --> 01:15:32,193
we will always need to discern
between true and false.
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01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:37,113
And even if we'll never reach
a perfect ultimate truth,
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01:15:38,100 --> 01:15:42,120
there is still virtue in
taking a step closer to it
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01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:43,023
if we can.
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01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:46,410
In today's world of fake news,
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01:15:46,410 --> 01:15:50,703
Plato's challenge couldn't be
more necessary or timelier.
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01:15:53,820 --> 01:15:55,860
The myth of Atlantis in that sense
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01:15:55,860 --> 01:15:59,340
holds a greater truth than
all our scientific theories
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01:15:59,340 --> 01:16:00,843
and archeological digs.
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01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:07,160
- I was looking for
Plato and found Atlantis.
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01:16:08,820 --> 01:16:13,223
The other guys are looking
for Atlantis and forgot Plato.
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01:16:20,310 --> 01:16:23,970
- [Jack] Plato invited his
students into a hidden way
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01:16:23,970 --> 01:16:26,880
of engaging with the puzzle he'd created,
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01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:29,310
where cultural continuity
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01:16:29,310 --> 01:16:33,360
and the individual's journey
toward wisdom come together
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01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:35,343
and in an extraordinary way.
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01:16:36,480 --> 01:16:39,303
The timeless way of the initiate.
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01:16:40,860 --> 01:16:44,580
This way of thought is
perhaps best illustrated
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01:16:44,580 --> 01:16:48,420
in trying to answer one of
the most stubborn enigmas
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01:16:48,420 --> 01:16:50,700
of this entire story,
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01:16:50,700 --> 01:16:55,203
the fact that the Atlantis
myth has no ending.
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01:16:56,790 --> 01:16:59,940
- You realize that you
might have in front of you
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01:16:59,940 --> 01:17:00,873
a puzzle to solve.
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01:17:01,770 --> 01:17:03,933
Do not underestimate the text.
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01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:07,560
- Critias appears unfinished,
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01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:09,990
as if Plato was writing it one day,
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01:17:09,990 --> 01:17:12,360
put his pen down mid-sentence
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01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:15,003
and never got around to
completing the story.
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01:17:16,170 --> 01:17:18,420
Or maybe he did finish it
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01:17:18,420 --> 01:17:21,453
and the manuscript was
partially destroyed by time,
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01:17:22,470 --> 01:17:24,843
leaving us with only a fragment.
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01:17:26,190 --> 01:17:28,833
These are the official explanations,
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01:17:31,170 --> 01:17:33,363
but let's take a closer look.
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01:17:36,090 --> 01:17:38,940
The cut-off end of Critias takes place
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01:17:38,940 --> 01:17:40,650
in a conference of the Gods,
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01:17:40,650 --> 01:17:44,700
where Zeus addresses the
subject of the Atlanteans.
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01:17:44,700 --> 01:17:47,550
Zeus, realizing that the chosen race
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01:17:47,550 --> 01:17:49,380
was behaving despicably,
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01:17:49,380 --> 01:17:53,130
wishing to punish them, called
to council all the gods,
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01:17:53,130 --> 01:17:56,883
and on having assembled
them said... Said what?
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01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:00,570
Knowing what you know now,
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01:18:00,570 --> 01:18:02,190
doesn't the idea that Plato
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01:18:02,190 --> 01:18:04,650
simply left off mid-sentence
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01:18:04,650 --> 01:18:07,473
seem just a little suspicious to you?
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01:18:10,140 --> 01:18:12,600
To get to the bottom of this enigma,
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01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:16,353
we need to think like
one of Plato's initiates.
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01:18:19,205 --> 01:18:21,872
(calming music)
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01:18:29,010 --> 01:18:33,330
Plato challenges you not
to memorize what he says,
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but to think for yourself.
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01:18:36,420 --> 01:18:39,510
As we met to discuss his
work for the last time,
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01:18:39,510 --> 01:18:42,453
George demonstrated the
depth of his own thinking,
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01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:46,830
revealing a connection
between Plato's Atlantis
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01:18:46,830 --> 01:18:51,063
and Homer's Odyssey that no
one had ever realized before.
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01:18:52,050 --> 01:18:55,470
Critias has always been
considered unfinished,
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01:18:55,470 --> 01:18:58,290
leaving us to conjecture
about the full extent
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01:18:58,290 --> 01:19:01,680
of the Atlantis story we have lost.
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But George has strong evidence
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01:19:03,990 --> 01:19:07,380
the mid-sentence ending was intentional
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01:19:07,380 --> 01:19:10,953
and that scholars have
misread it for centuries.
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01:19:12,750 --> 01:19:15,240
When Zeus calls together all the gods
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to make his cutoff speech
at the end of Critias,
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01:19:18,780 --> 01:19:20,880
we're presented with a scene
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01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:23,700
identical to one that takes place
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01:19:23,700 --> 01:19:26,523
right on the first page of the Odyssey.
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Only Poseidon is missing
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01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:35,550
from the conference of the
Gods in the Odyssey, and why?
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01:19:35,550 --> 01:19:39,600
Poseidon had gone to visit
the Ethiopians worlds away
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01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:43,443
to receive an offering, bulls
and rams by the hundred.
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He's busy enjoying an
animal sacrifice in Africa,
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much like the one
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01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:54,123
Plato has the Atlantean
kings perform in Critias.
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Poseidon is the patron God of Atlantis,
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01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:01,593
and a traditional rival to
Athena, Goddess of Athens.
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He was also God of the
Sea and of earthquakes,
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which together destroyed
the Atlantean capital city.
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The matching conferences
of the gods called by Zeus,
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01:20:17,940 --> 01:20:21,603
the links to Africa and
Poseidon's special role there.
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01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:25,623
The parallel animal sacrifices.
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01:20:27,090 --> 01:20:30,330
These connections between
Critias and the Odyssey
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01:20:30,330 --> 01:20:33,633
seem too obvious not to
have been deliberate.
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Where is Plato leading us?
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- Plato is forcing you to
find out the right piece,
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which is missing.
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01:20:46,530 --> 01:20:49,655
Make a crosscheck between
the Atlantis story
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01:20:49,655 --> 01:20:52,380
and the Odyssey story.
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01:20:52,380 --> 01:20:57,330
Decide by yourself, what
could be the end of the story?
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01:20:57,330 --> 01:21:01,920
- Look at how the Atlantis story
ends seemingly mid-sentence
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01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:03,570
and now here's Zeus,
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01:21:03,570 --> 01:21:06,420
speaking at an identical
gathering of the Gods
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01:21:06,420 --> 01:21:08,910
on page one of the Odyssey.
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01:21:08,910 --> 01:21:11,700
Zeus, realizing that the chosen race
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01:21:11,700 --> 01:21:13,650
was behaving despicably,
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01:21:13,650 --> 01:21:17,550
wishing to punish them, called
to council all the gods,
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01:21:17,550 --> 01:21:19,987
and on having assembled them said,
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01:21:19,987 --> 01:21:23,587
"Oh alas, how mortals put
the blame on the gods.
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01:21:23,587 --> 01:21:27,007
"They declare that from
us stem their misfortunes,
1416
01:21:27,007 --> 01:21:29,497
"while it is often they themselves
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01:21:29,497 --> 01:21:32,677
"who with their bad deeds fall into grief
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01:21:32,677 --> 01:21:34,394
"beyond what's written."
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01:21:36,030 --> 01:21:37,410
It doesn't cut off part way
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01:21:37,410 --> 01:21:40,140
because Plato was too lazy to finish it.
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01:21:40,140 --> 01:21:41,880
He did it on purpose.
1422
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:45,240
It redirects you back to the
beginning of the Odyssey.
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01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:47,970
- And what is the story of the Odyssey?
1424
01:21:47,970 --> 01:21:51,660
- A man who left the
civilization that he knows
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01:21:51,660 --> 01:21:54,960
and has to go on this
long, circuitous journey.
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01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:57,390
He has to suffer and struggle mightily
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01:21:57,390 --> 01:22:00,870
just to get back to the
point where he started from.
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01:22:00,870 --> 01:22:05,870
- Welcome Jack, to the
realm of Plato's initiates.
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01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:07,450
- Thanks, George.
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01:22:09,753 --> 01:22:12,720
This is Plato's meta-lesson
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01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,963
about the continuity
of human civilization.
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01:22:16,890 --> 01:22:20,730
If we do not fight against
corruption in our society
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01:22:20,730 --> 01:22:22,020
and ourselves,
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01:22:22,020 --> 01:22:25,680
and if we do not plan ahead
for periods of disaster,
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01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:28,170
we will wind up reduced to ignorance,
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01:22:28,170 --> 01:22:31,170
losing all the great blessings we enjoy,
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01:22:31,170 --> 01:22:33,810
and it will be a long, circuitous,
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01:22:33,810 --> 01:22:38,133
and tortured Odyssey to
get back to where we began.
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01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:46,170
"It's certainly possible
that things are that way,
1440
01:22:46,170 --> 01:22:48,900
"but it is also possible
that they are not,
1441
01:22:48,900 --> 01:22:52,650
"so you must investigate them
courageously and thoroughly
1442
01:22:52,650 --> 01:22:55,170
"and not accept anything easily.
1443
01:22:55,170 --> 01:22:58,650
"You are still young and
in your prime after all.
1444
01:22:58,650 --> 01:23:01,590
"Then, after you've investigated them,
1445
01:23:01,590 --> 01:23:04,080
"if you happen to discover the truth,
1446
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:05,463
"you can share it with me."
1447
01:23:11,627 --> 01:23:14,210
(upbeat music)
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01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:34,020
- I think we can learn not
to ignore the myths, right,
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01:23:34,020 --> 01:23:36,610
and I think, you know,
all the time we're finding
1450
01:23:37,470 --> 01:23:38,940
what we thought was a myth,
1451
01:23:38,940 --> 01:23:41,607
now we find actually is a reality.
1452
01:23:41,607 --> 01:23:44,190
(upbeat music)
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01:23:45,945 --> 01:23:48,612
(calming music)
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01:24:11,402 --> 01:24:14,069
(calming music)
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