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[man]
I remember being on the
plane,
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being really scared because
I think it was the first time.
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I was seven years old
when I came to America
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and it was the first time
that I was on a plane
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and we literally tried
to take everything of value,
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everything that
meant anything to us.
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We were, like,
really scared about,
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not only facing
our new home
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or what was to be
our new home
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at least for the
foreseeable future,
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because our father was
going to university.
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Just scared about having
left Iran for the first time
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and going somewhere
that we knew
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was going to be
completely different.
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I saw that there was room for
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a lot of opportunity
to eventually present itself
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and I saw that
had I stayed in Iran,
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I probably would have done
what was expected of me
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and done what everybody
else had always done,
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which is become a doctor,
become an engineer,
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become a lawyer.
You know?
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And in America,
I felt more freedom
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to express myself
in creative ways
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that maybe,
had I stayed in Iran,
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I wouldn't have been
able to do.
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Since I used to be
English teacher there,
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I was helping Ali
to learn the language,
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which he picked up
pretty quick.
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The only time that Ali and
Arash had a hard time was,
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there was a hostage
crisis in Iran
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and they were kids and
they didn't know anything
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and at this school,
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although their school staff
was very understanding
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and supportive of them,
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but the children at this
school couldn't understand it,
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so they were giving Ali and
Arash a really hard time.
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So, they made them
practically miserable.
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So, that was the time that
they needed a lot of help.
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Ali was average,
actually, at school.
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There were some subjects
that he was pretty great,
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but the rest
he didn't pay attention,
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simply because he was
in love with music.
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[ethereal music]
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With help of his friend,
Brian Transeau, BT,
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he was his classmate.
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Eventually, he went into music.
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He loved very much
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and he constantly
continued this interest.
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They saw it as a side hobby.
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I don't think they ever realized
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he would pursue it as a career
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and at the time it was sort
of in the nascent stages.
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I mean, it was pre-EDM,
if you will.
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I mean, DJs were not
on magazine covers,
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especially in America,
you know?
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It was a real, sort of
underground career path
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and I think my parents,
at the time, were worried.
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They were really hesitant
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about him moving into that
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as a full time career.
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I think their initial feelings
were probably disappointment.
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[Rouhi] He came to me
and actually requested,
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"Mom, if you allow me
to pull out and focus
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all my attention to my music,
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I feel I'm going to be
somebody."
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And after a long conversation,
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I agreed that, for him,
to focus one year on his music
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more than his education
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and that was actually the year
that everything turned around
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and, by the end of the year,
he proved to himself and to me
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that this is really a special
talent that he has got.
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[Ali]
The closeness of family really
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has kept me grounded
over the years.
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I think,
had I not had that,
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I probably would have,
you know,
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fallen in with the wrong crowd,
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maybe gone off the deep end
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with the excessive partying,
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the crazy night life.
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That's basically
a part of my scene,
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but those core family values
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kept me on the right path.
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[upbeat club music]
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[Hutchy] Ali use to spin
hip hop, house,
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acid jazz, and funk
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and I used to spin reggae
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and throughout those genres,
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I gave the flavor and the mic.
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Before then,
this was unheard of.
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This never had been done before
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as far as, you have an MC,
you know,
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toasting over acid jazz music,
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hip hop, and stuff.
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It never had been done before.
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My little brother,
my younger brother,
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threw a party at a
place here called--
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It was a pizza shop,
basically, called Milo's
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and he closed it down
and rented it at night
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and begged me to have Ali play
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because Ali was
a sick hip hop DJ.
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Actually, the first
time I heard the music
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I remember asking people,
what is this?
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Who is this?
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And there was a DJ up there
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next to a Jamaican
guy who was rapping
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and everyone told me
it was a guy named Dubfire
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and they were playing
what's called acid jazz.
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And so, essentially,
he started playing acid jazz
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from what I recall.
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When we started off,
Washington was a ghost town.
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Literally a ghost town.
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You can count
the clubs on one hand
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and every club has their own
specific ways of doing things.
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We came in young and radical
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and transformed the whole thing,
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but we were the first
to go into a club
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or a restaurant and make it
into a club for that one night.
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We happened to be about
two and a half blocks away
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from the place that
I first met him.
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Well, it was called the
Down Under Restaurant,
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but on Fridays and Saturdays
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we used to have a
night called Exodus
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and he came in.
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He was a very quiet
guy, actually.
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For the kind of noise he made
with the turn tables,
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he was a very quiet guy.
[chuckles]
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And he's very focused,
didn't say much.
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I mean, he came
and did his thing
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on a regular basis within
the years, you know.
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But I remember the first time,
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he just came in with his
record bag and started playing,
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but he was very
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down to earth,
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but very focused.
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We didn't participate
too much with the crowd,
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but every time you would
go back and listen to him,
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the music would change.
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I felt like it just get better
and better every week.
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Sharam kept coming at Exodus,
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but you know, Sharam's music
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was completely a
different background,
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you know, which I respect 100%,
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but it was a great
combination because
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I understood Ali's music
was more bottom heavy,
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bass-oriented music.
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Whether it was slow or fast,
it was very bottom heavy.
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And the thing with Sharam,
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he has the melodic
aspect of music.
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So, I thought when they
were kinda partnering up,
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I was like, this could
be a good combination.
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And then, obviously,
we saw it blossom
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to this thing what's
known as Deep Dish.
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It's great.
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[Sharam] We met through
a mutual friend at a party.
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We were booked to
play the same party
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and we just hit it off musically
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and decided to create Deep Dish
and here we are.
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It's like a marriage:
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some days you hate it,
some days you love it.
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-Yeah, because--
-Yeah.
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[laughing]
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In the beginning,
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they started a bet each other,
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but then they
started as a friend.
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Ali, first he made his room
as his studio
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and then Sharam
used to be with Ali
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in our home almost all the time.
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And since both of them love
Persian meal and Persian food,
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so I was always ready
to make them food
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and they used to go
to that little room
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and work with each other.
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[Man] So you were
like brothers, weren't you?
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-Do you feel like brothers?
-We're brothers.
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-Yeah.
-Yeah.
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I always wanted to have
a twin brother, you know?
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I thought it would be cool.
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And then, God gave me this guy.
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Yeah, right. Right.
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It's wicked.
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Which I'm regretting--
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You know they say be
careful what you ask for?
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That was just at the start
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when he was Deep
Dish with Sharam,
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I think in 1993.
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I used to go to
his resident party,
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which was at State of the Union,
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a small bar in Washington, DC.
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I was at university
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and this was a gig
where him and Sharam
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had to assemble everything,
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all the equipment,
all the speakers,
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CD players, turn tables,
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and they had to play
from beginning to end
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and they probably got,
I don't know how much,
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but I'm guessing $150
to play the whole night,
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both of them together.
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Well, needless to say,
things have changed.
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[laughing]
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So, you know--
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We go way back
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and, even though things
have changed a lot,
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it's nice to see
that he hasn't.
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[upbeat club music]
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I wanna say quiet,
but that's not the right word.
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He was always the
deep in the dish
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in the Deep Dish equation.
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So, he was kinda the deeper guy.
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I think as a DJ,
you know,
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he liked reggae
and hip hop sounds.
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He obviously had friendships
with many of the local DJs,
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but he was always sort of
the deeper part of that.
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They were the biggest DJ duo
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in the world at the time.
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They were on magazine covers,
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they were headlining
the best festivals,
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their music was number one.
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You know, anytime
they put a tune out
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it was number one at
Winter Music Conference
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it was number one
on the UK charts.
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They started getting
mainstream US press
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and, again, this
is sort of pre-EDM,
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pre-Skrillex and Deadmaus
on Rolling Stone.
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This is 2005, 2006,
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so the industry was
just sort of emerging,
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at least in the US.
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It wasn't getting the
support that it gets now.
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It was really sort of
in the embryonic stage.
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And for them to achieve
what they did with Madonna
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and with the remixes
and the touring,
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it was really
significant at the time.
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[Man] Wednesday is one
of the biggest nights
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for the musical world.
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It is Grammy night.
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There are several people
from our area up for awards.
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One is the DC-based remix
duo called Deep Dish.
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Deep Dish is Ali Shirazinia
and Sharam Tayebi.
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They were just children when
they immigrated here from Iran.
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Now, the guys find
themselves LA bound,
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nominated for best
remix recording
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of Dido's chart hit Thank You.
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We take a song,
it could be a rock song,
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a pop song, any sort
of original material
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and we, more or less,
reproduce it.
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We write our own music,
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our own drum
programming on top of it
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and we give it our flavor.
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The commercial side of things
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really came towards
George Is On
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where Flashcance
happened at some stage
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and it was clearly
the most commercial record
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that they'd ever done.
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It wasn't really a
commercial record
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because at the
time it was crazy.
257
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It turned into a
commercial formula
258
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after Flashdance was successful,
259
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but at the time that Flashdance
started to be created,
260
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it was impossible to predict.
261
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It would not have been
possible to predict
262
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that that would be a
commercially successful record.
263
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[Flashdance by Deep Dish]
264
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♪ He doesn't mean
a thing to me
265
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♪ Just another
pretty face to see
266
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♪ He's all over town
267
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♪ Knocking them down
yeah honey
268
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♪ And I'd never
let him next to me
269
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Madonna was doing
a pre-tour event
270
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at the Roseland Ballroom
in New York
271
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and wanted Deep Dish
to open up for her
272
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and the reason
was a phone call,
273
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not a fax or an email
at the time was,
274
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this was all super-secret.
275
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Nobody could know.
276
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It was gonna be a surprise
thing. Blah blah blah.
277
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And, to make a long story short,
278
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the guys ended up
opening up for Madonna,
279
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phenomenally successful
and this was the precursor
280
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to her Music tour
at the time
281
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and given that it
was in New York,
282
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given that it was in
such a small venue,
283
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this was a moment
from Heaven for press.
284
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So, a super media event.
285
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And two weeks later,
I get this call from Versace
286
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saying that Donatello
loves their sound
287
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and would they be
willing to consider
288
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working on Versace's
fashion shows?
289
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I called the guys up
290
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and I had to do a lot of
explaining and coaxing
291
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because they weren't really
into commercial stuff
292
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like that at all
and they agreed.
293
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So, we flew out to Milan
and then did that show
294
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and it was crazy stuff,
you know?
295
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Imagine sitting there.
296
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I went on those trips with them.
297
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Imagine sitting there
with a fashion designer
298
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who's saying, "I really
want this to sound brown.
299
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It has to feel warm."
300
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[upbeat music]
301
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Did Deep Dish pave the way
for Swedish House Mafia
302
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David Guetta, Calvin Harris?
303
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I would say, yeah and I
think if you ask those
guys they would tell you,
304
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especially David Guetta,
he's older.
305
00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:34,400
I think that Deep Dish
influenced a lot of DJs.
306
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I remember being at Pacha
307
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and I was a B DJ in France,
308
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but nobody knew me
really outside of France
309
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and I remember saying
hi to Ali and Sharam
310
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and going back to my agent
311
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and saying, oh, my god!
I just shook their hands!
312
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[laughing]
313
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And I was so excited
because I shook hands
314
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with Ali and Deep Dish
and it was such
315
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a big deal for me
to meet them.
316
00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,760
Deep Dish was definitely
one of the first,
317
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well, probably the first
house music that affected us
318
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and that we heard,
you know?
319
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It was Deep Dish and
Armin van Houten, I think,
320
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that really got us hooked
in the scene.
321
00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:28,920
That was really like
an American sound.
322
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It was sort of a club sound
that you really don't hear
323
00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,160
that much anymore nowadays.
324
00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:34,080
It was so--
325
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I call it mouth music
because I'll show you.
326
00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,640
I can only show you
what I mean with that.
327
00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:44,560
I think that Ali
and Sharam reached
328
00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,960
the natural life cycle of
any creative partnership.
329
00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:53,800
I think that working together
for almost two decades
330
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and constantly having
to run every decision
331
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past another person,
332
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I think that kinda
placed its toll on them
333
00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,560
and I think they
had both matured.
334
00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,920
I think that they had
grown a lot over that time
335
00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:11,840
and I think they
were more definitive
336
00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,280
about what they
wanted out of life.
337
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They were more definitive about
what they wanted creatively
338
00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,000
and they were veterans
at this point.
339
00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:23,000
So, I think there was
that conflict of values,
340
00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:28,800
of each direction Ali and
Sharam wanted to go to.
341
00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,200
I think that was in
conflict at the time.
342
00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,920
And he said, "By the way,
343
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Sharam and I fight a lot."
[laughing]
344
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"You're gonna be spending
a lot of time with us
345
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and you're gonna
see us go at it.
346
00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,480
Just excuse yourself
from the room,
347
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step outside,
hang out,
348
00:18:49,360 --> 00:18:51,160
go down the street,
get a beer,
349
00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,760
go smoke a cigarette,
go do whatever you gotta do.
350
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Eventually, everything's
gonna kind of subside
351
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and we'll get back to work."
352
00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,200
You know, if you
think about it,
353
00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,040
ten years of touring,
354
00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:07,760
ten years of having to be that
close with the same person.
355
00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,240
You know, it's difficult.
356
00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:11,880
You know,
the studio relationship,
357
00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,560
the creative relationship,
358
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the magic that happened
between them didn't come easy.
359
00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,640
It wasn't the type of thing
where they sat in the studio,
360
00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,240
said, "Oh, that's a cool sound.
Yeah, let's use that."
361
00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:24,840
There were a lot of fights.
362
00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,440
I used to go for a walk a lot.
[laughing]
363
00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,960
You know, funnily enough,
thinking back to it,
364
00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,160
I don't know if it was that much
of a surprise that they split.
365
00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,080
I think that there
aren't that many DJ duos
366
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and when you've been
together with your partner
367
00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,440
for as long as they had,
368
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then, in a way, I think it
was quite a natural thing.
369
00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,120
I think they'd felt they'd taken
it as far as they could go.
370
00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,080
I think they both--
371
00:19:50,120 --> 00:19:52,640
the more I got
to know them better
372
00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,880
and the longer that
relationship went on,
373
00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,120
they both had kinda--
374
00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,640
they were totally
separate people.
375
00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,720
They both did
something different.
376
00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,840
I think it's very
hard to find someone
377
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,000
who isn't somehow attracted
to money and fame.
378
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,320
I think everybody
wants it a little bit,
379
00:20:12,360 --> 00:20:13,800
at least once in their life
380
00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,680
and you have that chance,
you go that way,
381
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,360
and then you have to decide
if it's for you or not
382
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,280
and from my feeling and
understanding with Ali
383
00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,360
is that he had an incredible
ride and had a lot of fun,
384
00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,920
but at one point found that
there was something missing
385
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:35,560
and I think that's why he
looked in another direction,
386
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,800
not only musically, but also
for friendship and support
387
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,080
and to,
some people would say,
388
00:20:45,120 --> 00:20:47,080
to get back to the roots,
389
00:20:47,120 --> 00:20:48,440
but I think it was
just, you know,
390
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,880
get back to why
he got involved
391
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,320
in this music in
the first place.
392
00:20:53,360 --> 00:20:55,640
You know, we don't
follow the rules
393
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,640
and we see ourselves
as, like,
394
00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,240
you know, I wanna
make it in music
395
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:00,840
and everybody tells you no.
396
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,280
If you wanna work in
music it's not gonna work.
397
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,240
So many people, you should
have to be very lucky
398
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,000
and you can make a living
399
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,120
I just say,
"No. I want it like that."
400
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,120
And you just fight
to make it like this.
401
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,000
But at the same time,
402
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,840
if you're not happy
in a situation,
403
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,240
you have to be
honest enough to say,
404
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,840
"You know what,
I'm in a peak,
405
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,240
and fuck it,
fuck everything,
406
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:27,200
I wanna try again
from the beginning."
407
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,560
I didn't think there was
anything rocky about them.
408
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,280
I just thought it was just
two brothers are together
409
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,280
all the time and they wanted
to kill each other, you know?
410
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,200
And if you're together
with the same person
every day you're gonna fight.
411
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,960
Like me and my partner,
we fight all the time and
we have disagreements.
412
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,480
That's what I sensed.
413
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,440
I didn't sense anything
like to what it became.
414
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,960
I didn't see it
coming like that.
415
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,640
[light music]
416
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,040
What I think is what he's
done really well for himself,
417
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,880
he got out of Deep Dish
just at the right time
418
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,800
where the techno scene
would still embrace him
419
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,280
because everybody in
the techno scene--
420
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,320
that's a really hard
scene to get into
421
00:22:13,360 --> 00:22:15,840
because everybody's
really cool, you know?
422
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,760
And to be part of that scene,
423
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,560
you gotta really say
goodbye to anything
424
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,040
that has to do with
other than techno
425
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,800
and he did it really well.
426
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,840
You want the real
me, man. Right?
427
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,120
This is the real me.
428
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,240
I'm gonna give you
the real me.
429
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:31,720
Whatever you want.
430
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,880
Forget all your
preconceived notions.
431
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,800
This is Taipei and
this is Dubfire.
432
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,720
Initially, there was
resistance, you know?
433
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,600
The techno scene
is very cliquey.
434
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,560
You have to kinda show them
that you're one of them.
435
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,960
Ali spent a lot of
time convincing people
436
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,680
that he was part
of that new scene
437
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,360
and, you know, we had
to help him do that.
438
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,640
I remember him
sometimes paying to play.
439
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,320
So, he would be in the UK
440
00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:09,040
and then all of a sudden
he has to got to DC10
441
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,840
and basically he would
pay to fly himself,
442
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,720
pay for his flight,
his hotel,
443
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,840
and then not get paid.
444
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,280
So, it's an interesting
process to build yourself down
445
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,160
so you can build yourself better
446
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:26,280
and it's admiring to
see somebody do that.
447
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,080
Ali was coming to our parties.
448
00:23:28,120 --> 00:23:32,600
When I say our parties,
it was in the early 2000s.
449
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,560
This was where my
career started off
450
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,680
and I was playing this
kind of percussive,
451
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,200
bringing minimal
techno into it
452
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,400
before all of this
minimal thing started.
453
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,200
So, he was coming to Ibiza and
then I met him in the States
454
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,000
and I always paid my respects.
455
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,800
"Wow, Ali! You should do
something like way back in time
456
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,720
and why don't you? Yeah."
457
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,600
And he was like,
"Yeah, you're right.
458
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,600
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're right."
459
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,440
And then I remember him
coming back from Ibiza
460
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,960
after going to DC10
461
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,760
and being like, nope.
This is what we're doing.
462
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,360
This is the approach.
463
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,120
This is what I wanna do.
464
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,800
And he was so blown away
from that experience
465
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:20,120
that it was all he
could see, you know?
466
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,360
That was the only way that
this was gonna go down.
467
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,720
We started working on
records that were very much
468
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,360
inspired from that trip
and several others
469
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,760
and Road Kill, I think,
470
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,320
was one of the turning points
for sure.
471
00:24:40,360 --> 00:24:42,800
There was a couple,
you know?
472
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,400
I think the Lucky Heather remix
473
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,560
was another big turning
point for him musically
474
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:53,560
and also Ribcage was probably,
I think, for me,
475
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,880
for him was one of the
biggest turning points.
476
00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:02,480
After that, I think it
really helped solidify
477
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,640
his sort of sound and style
478
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,360
and I feel like that record
479
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,280
has a lot of Ali in it.
480
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,400
I do remember
that I asked Ali,
481
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,000
can I release that?
482
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,640
And he was like, "No, we already
gave it to local guys
483
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,680
and it's gonna be
just like number one."
484
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,560
And I remember that
really well
485
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,160
because Ali made some great
music before and afterwards,
486
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,080
but Ribcage was a track which
487
00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:31,560
kind of was two tracks
in one, you know?
488
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,840
It was like there was a
really different beginning
489
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,320
to the very different end,
490
00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:37,000
but it made total sense.
491
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,640
And there, you
suddenly had a track
492
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,240
that put you on a journey.
493
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,280
Not only the DJ set
puts you on a journey,
494
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,000
also the little track
puts you on a journey.
495
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:49,600
When Ribcage came out it was
really such a defining sound.
496
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,200
It was so unique, you know,
497
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:52,720
and yet it worked so well.
498
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,400
And it was also an
inspiration of saying,
499
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,040
"Hey, you know what?
500
00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,880
It doesn't matter where
you are at any given point.
501
00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:02,640
If you have belief and talent,
you can take it anywhere."
502
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,480
And that's the beauty
of this music, I guess.
503
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,680
Electronic music
gives you the ability
504
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,400
to really become or
create whatever you want.
505
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,440
And he showed it on
a really high level
506
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,960
and it showed guts and
it showed excitement
507
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,600
and it showed commitment
508
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,440
and there was no doubt
in my mind
509
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,000
he would take it all the way
to where he has taken it.
510
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,640
I think the singles, when
he put both of them out,
511
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,840
I mean, people from Armin
van Buuran, to Tiesto,
512
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,560
to Richie Hawtin were playing
513
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,680
and I think people were
really taken aback.
514
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:42,440
They were like, "Wow, where
is this coming from?"
515
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,880
You know, there was this
darkness and this anger
516
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:50,560
and this new sound that
people not only didn't hear,
517
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,280
but they weren't
expecting from a guy
518
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,560
that had done Say Hello
and Flashdance.
519
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,680
So, I think there
was a real surprise
520
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,880
and I think there was
a real appreciation
521
00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,680
for his great creative art.
522
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,480
[speaking German]
523
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:47,840
I mean, it was like a
"What the fuck?" moment for me.
524
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,400
I don't remember
exactly when it was,
525
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,120
but it was definitely
526
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,760
when I heard that he came
from another place,
527
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,760
he really came from a place
where a lot of techno records
528
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:00,880
weren't coming from
at the time.
529
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,320
So, I knew he had something.
530
00:28:04,360 --> 00:28:07,600
[upbeat techno music]
531
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,920
Sven ended up being one
of the early supporters.
532
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,000
He put out Ali's first
techno compilation on Cocoon.
533
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,720
He started to bring
Ali into Cocoon.
534
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,320
Nights in Ibiza are
at the Cocoon Club.
535
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,800
So, he was a strong supporter
before Richie even was
536
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,840
and I think it was
because he connected
537
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,840
with how genuine
and how driven
538
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,680
by creative reasons
the transition was.
539
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,400
That's why it worked,
because it was genuine.
540
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,440
[audience cheering]
541
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,680
Since many years,
I love this guy.
542
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,720
[audience cheering]
543
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,440
[Ali]
They wanted me to stumble.
544
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,720
They wanted me to
find my own way,
545
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,720
but they weren't
just watching me
546
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,720
fall apart, so to speak.
547
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,720
They were really there to give
me moral support, friendship.
548
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:21,960
They were there to give me
549
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,800
creative advice,
technical advice.
550
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,200
So, I'm pretty
indebted to those guys.
551
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,600
You know, and I'll never
forget what they did.
552
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,840
[upbeat techno music]
553
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:16,360
I worked for the first
tour manager and babysitter
554
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:17,760
and party-bringer.
555
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,000
[laughing]
556
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,240
And basically, the
main thing is probably
557
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,360
setting up all the equipment
558
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,560
and basically just making sure
that everything runs smoothly
559
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:33,560
from pickups, hotels, dinners.
560
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,560
So, he can basically
just walk in, do the gig,
561
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,320
feel comfortable
not having to worry
562
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,560
about anything
sort of technical.
563
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,800
I'm making sure we're
picked up, hotels are paid,
564
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,680
dinner's looked after.
565
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,280
So, basically, he can
just come do his thing
566
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,560
without having to stress about
any of the small details.
567
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,040
So, that's my main
part of the job.
568
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,120
He's always been someone
that really likes to push
569
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,360
the limits of technology
570
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,600
and it's really good
working with him on that
571
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:06,080
because we always just try
to incorporate something new.
572
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,720
So, a lot of people talk
about my rattlesnake effect,
573
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:14,000
which is just this tape
delay thing that I have.
574
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,240
[upbeat techno music]
575
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,640
And what I try to
do a lot of times
576
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:29,160
is to create a new version
of what I'm playing
577
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,160
just by looping
different songs together
578
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,760
and maybe I'll eventually--
579
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,560
I mean, if I'm
having too much fun
580
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,040
just looping parts of a track,
581
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,760
I'll just leave it at that
582
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,560
and other times, eventually,
I'll kick in the track
583
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,440
and then it creates
a pretty great
584
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,680
feeling in the whole
room. So, yeah.
585
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,480
Mike, have you
seen the fader plugs?
586
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,240
-[Mike] That's insane.
-Yeah.
587
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:53,240
Traktor controller.
Traktor controller.
588
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,760
Yeah, for TraKKtor.
589
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,280
All four decks.
Everything.
590
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:57,760
A, B, C, D. See?
591
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,720
-Yeah.
-That's something else.
592
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,160
He has also great
insight on the DJ business
593
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,800
and also what the DJ
really needs in the booth.
594
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,000
So, he's one of the guys
that we like to talk to
595
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,600
even though,
I've got to admit,
596
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,680
when we met it was
really more private
597
00:34:13,720 --> 00:34:16,680
and really just hang out
and learn a little bit
598
00:34:16,720 --> 00:34:20,320
about the DJ life
and maybe
599
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:26,240
one of the managers of one of
the companies in our industry.
600
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,600
[Speaking Japanese]
601
00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:28,760
[Ali]
It's a powerful feeling.
602
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,600
I mean, DJing can be
extremely powerful.
603
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,920
You can be in a situation where
604
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,280
you're in complete
control of the crowd.
605
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,560
And that can make
you feel, you know,
606
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,160
some people have
thrown around that word
607
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:45,840
and there was that
Faithless song, I remember,
608
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,760
like, God is a DJ or whatever,
609
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,040
but it can make you feel
god-like in some ways.
610
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,560
When you're sort of
above ground level,
611
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,680
when you're, you know,
in your pulpit,
612
00:35:57,720 --> 00:36:00,760
it can have a very,
you know,
613
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,640
powerfully spiritual
effect on you
614
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,200
to be in control
of so many people.
615
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:11,600
[soft dramatic music]
616
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,560
There's so many different
parameters at play.
617
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,400
There's so many
different variables
618
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,240
that sometimes are
working with you,
619
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:35,760
sometimes are
working against you
620
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,320
that you have to
navigate through to find
621
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,600
that point where you connect
622
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,600
and when you connect,
it's a beautiful--
623
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,040
it's like the eye of
the storm, you know?
624
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:50,760
It's like that calm,
serene place
625
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,720
that pilots have driven into,
626
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,880
that scientists have discussed
627
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,000
as a very unusual,
very calm place
628
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,720
in the middle of what could
be the worst storm in history
629
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,840
and that's what playing
in a club is like
630
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,760
because you're surrounded
by all these things.
631
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,200
There's people knocking
things over around you,
632
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,560
there's drinks falling on
your laptop and on the mixer
633
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,560
and a certain audience member's
634
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,600
trying to get your attention,
635
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,880
certain people behind you or
the entourage of the promoter
636
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,720
are trying to get you
to pose for photos
637
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:23,920
and all this other stuff
638
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,800
and while all that's going on,
639
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,600
while all that's
happening around you,
640
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,200
which is the hurricane,
641
00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:31,720
you're in the center of it all
642
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,120
and you're trying to
find that inner peace,
643
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,760
that inner connectivity,
644
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,880
not only within yourself,
but with the technology
645
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,800
and ultimately with the audience
646
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,560
and you're trying to bring
people into that space.
647
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,400
It's a very warm and
inviting space to be in.
648
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,040
[electronic ethereal music]
649
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,480
[music on headphones]
650
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,600
[brass horns]
651
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,960
[upbeat techno music]
652
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,480
[speaking Japanese]
653
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,160
[upbeat techno music]
654
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,320
[speaking Japanese]
655
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,800
[upbeat techno music]
656
00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:51,120
I think what's great
about working with Ali
657
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,320
is he travels a lot,
he sees lots of things,
658
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:55,560
he's very open-minded,
659
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,000
he takes in lots of influences
660
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,360
and also, he's willing
to take a risk, you know?
661
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,440
We've tried to do a
3D show for 4000 people
662
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:06,800
and we'd never done it before,
663
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,760
we didn't know how
it was gonna work,
664
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,320
and we tried that
and it worked,
665
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,280
but you don't always
know how these things
are gonna work or not or how
666
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:19,480
much affect they can
have. Sometimes, you can
have things that
667
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,000
you don't expect
to be a big deal
668
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,640
or they're almost
something that just happens
669
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,720
and that's when it becomes
something of focus.
670
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,800
But what's nice working with Ali
671
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,680
is he's prepared to let
those things happen.
672
00:43:33,720 --> 00:43:38,240
He's not too precious
or controlling of things
673
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,280
and he places
a lot of trust in us
674
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,200
and I think because of that,
675
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:44,200
he's got the best
out of us really.
676
00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:47,440
[upbeat techno music]
677
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,120
[sheet rustling]
678
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,200
When people look
at how much money you get
679
00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:22,760
for a night to play a show
680
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,360
and how long you play, maybe
you play an hour or two,
681
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,760
it just seems like,
"Wow, you make a lot of money."
682
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,760
But then if you think about it,
683
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,120
yeah, I just played an hour,
684
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,680
but I spent eight hours
to get to this club
685
00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:37,240
on 30 minutes sleep
from the night before
686
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:41,640
and after this it's gonna take
me 12 hours to travel home.
687
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,120
If you scale that whole thing,
688
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:47,560
you're getting paid like
this much to make music
689
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,000
and then this much
for traveling
690
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,880
and dealing with
the music life,
691
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:56,640
maybe partying too much
and half asleep on a plane
692
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,920
and stuff like that.
693
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,640
I don't think
that people realize
694
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,680
how much travel is involved
695
00:45:03,720 --> 00:45:06,240
until you really look at
a DJs entire schedule.
696
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:10,840
If you're club-goer A and
you're sitting in Dubai
697
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,320
and Ali shows up
to play a gig,
698
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,200
you're like,
"Wow, that's great.
699
00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:16,680
Ali was here, I'm sure he's
staying three or four nights
700
00:45:16,720 --> 00:45:18,640
and he's spending
time at the pool."
701
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,240
No. Ali is probably
there for 12 hours
702
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,560
and he's playing a set and
then he has to get on a plane
703
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,360
to fly somewhere else
704
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,600
and there has to be time to
sleep so that he's refreshed
705
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,240
so that the next day
when he plays Aman
706
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:36,720
or Beirut or Istanbul
or London or Toyko,
707
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,480
he's ready and fresh
to perform again
708
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,640
and to be creative and
to deliver the experience
709
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,760
that the club-goer
wants to have.
710
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,640
You can't be a
successful DJ, really,
711
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,360
unless you love traveling.
712
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,280
Maybe for a couple
of years you can,
713
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,600
but you've got to love
getting on that plane,
714
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,720
going to different places,
715
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,240
revisiting and
exploring a little bit.
716
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:58,680
And Ali loves that.
717
00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:02,720
He loves where that type
of situation takes you.
718
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:05,760
When you go to a new place,
719
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,240
you want to meet new people,
720
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:08,600
you want to go to new places,
721
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,320
you want to try new food,
new drinks,
722
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,920
and explore everything
about that place.
723
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,000
And then, when
I'd go on a weekend
724
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,000
and you go from club to club,
725
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,760
maybe you have two
shows in a night
726
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,720
and you're not sleeping and
you're like, oh, my god,
727
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,640
I'm never drinking again,
728
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,320
I'm like, this is
too much for me,
729
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:31,160
but then slowly you get
better at it and better at it.
730
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,880
Kinda like being in the Army.
731
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,440
You know, when you
first join the Army,
732
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,120
I'm sure you're not used
to only two hours sleep,
733
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,000
but later you're like,
oh, I have 15 minutes,
734
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,480
I'm gonna sleep right now.
735
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,040
And then, you wake
up and you're fine.
736
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:44,800
You just train your body to deal
737
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,760
with that kind of lifestyle.
738
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,720
I need sleep and
I love to sleep.
739
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,040
Definitely everybody needs
sleep and it's very healthy,
740
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,040
but it's funny because
during the week,
741
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,360
if I would sleep
only for two hours,
742
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,400
the next day I would
be like, "Oh, my god.
743
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:00,880
I only slept two hours."
744
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,160
But on a weekend
or when I'm on tour
745
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,400
and because of your flight
schedules or whatever,
746
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,120
you get only two hours
of sleep, it's okay.
747
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,760
You're like, I got two
hours of sleep, you know?
748
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,680
I can deal with the
rest of the night
749
00:47:11,720 --> 00:47:15,600
and that basically shows you
it's all a mindset thing.
750
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,280
I mean, ultimately, of
course you need sleep,
751
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,760
you need rest, but you
can do two, three days
752
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,240
with a little bit
of amount of sleep
753
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,480
and you can still manage to do
your things in the right way.
754
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,760
[dark dramatic music]
755
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,560
You don't get much
sleep over the weekend
756
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,600
when you're doing
these kind of events.
757
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,440
But not only that, we do
have a daytime life as well.
758
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:24,920
We have relationships,
married, kids,
759
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,280
I have a record label to run,
760
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:27,920
I have a radio show,
761
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,680
I do a lot of remixes,
762
00:48:31,720 --> 00:48:33,720
I work in the studio.
763
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,200
All of these things are
cumbersome of what makes a DJ.
764
00:48:37,240 --> 00:48:38,960
And also, when we
put the events on,
765
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,960
things all need to be
worked out in meetings,
766
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,600
things that you
have to go and see,
767
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,600
and not only that, we have
people that we need to see
768
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,360
from a financial point of view.
769
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,560
You know, marketing structures,
770
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,400
all this kind of stuff.
771
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:58,120
It really is a
part of-- this success
772
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:03,760
has created all of
what we basically
773
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,560
need to understand and
what we need to go through
774
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,480
to be able to go to that party
775
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,720
and do what we do at
the other end of it
776
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,600
and that is all time.
777
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,760
It takes so much time,
778
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,040
but it's necessary to do it
779
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:18,600
otherwise the wheels
of the industry
780
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,360
doesn't keep turning
if you're just like
781
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,000
[yawning]
782
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:23,920
"What time is it?
Eight o'clock in the evening.
783
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,640
All right, I'll get some
food and go to the party."
784
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,760
All these meetings and
things are backed up
785
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,680
and things that you
need to know about
786
00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:31,760
have not been done
787
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,920
and then, it all falls down.
788
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,600
So, you have to be
on top of the game,
789
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,280
not just from the
DJing point of view,
790
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:39,720
but from the nuts and
bolts of the industry
791
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,680
point of view as well.
792
00:49:41,720 --> 00:49:44,120
DJing or playing
music for people,
793
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:45,840
it's a lonesome life.
794
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,920
Much like the life of a cowboy
795
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:55,320
and life on the road is
like life on the prairie.
796
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:59,360
Alone to your words,
to your horse and yourself.
797
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,680
[Camille]
I never went on tour with him
798
00:50:03,720 --> 00:50:06,720
and I was used to being
on my own all the time.
799
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,480
So, I'd be like, see
you when you get back,
800
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,680
and I had no idea
where he would go.
801
00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:12,480
So, I was like, "Oh, okay.
You're going to DJ.
802
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:13,920
Cool. See ya."
803
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:15,600
And then, he would come
back and he was like,
804
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,200
I'm so tired, and I was like,
805
00:50:17,240 --> 00:50:19,200
"What did you do?
806
00:50:19,240 --> 00:50:20,240
Where have you been?
807
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,080
What's going on with you?"
808
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,040
But he never was like,
809
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:26,920
"Oh, I'm just gonna sit
back and chill."
810
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,680
He always wanted to do
something or go out.
811
00:50:29,720 --> 00:50:35,400
So, I probably didn't get the
end of that being tired thing
812
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,800
until like two years later
into the relationship.
813
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,280
I think to stay on
top of everything,
814
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,000
all the DJs just
take lots of drugs.
815
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,480
I say that because I think
some people out there
816
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,800
actually think
that's the case
817
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,760
and that's the only
way it actually works.
818
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:56,320
Most of the DJs I know have
had crazy times in their lives
819
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,200
and in their careers where
perhaps they were experimenting
820
00:50:59,240 --> 00:51:02,880
and drinking a lot and
doing lots of things,
821
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,440
but most of the DJs now
822
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,560
who are on top of their game
823
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,640
are quite disciplined.
824
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,880
So, they have a schedule
that's pretty intense
825
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,960
between staying fit--
826
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,640
because staying fit
means playing your best.
827
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,480
Staying fit also
means a clear mind
828
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,960
that allows you to work
and run companies.
829
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,200
[upbeat techno music]
830
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:58,040
I always make sure that
Ali has time for Ali.
831
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:02,080
I've introduced him
to wellness doctors,
832
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:03,400
to physical therapists.
833
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,680
I think of Ali as a brand.
834
00:52:05,720 --> 00:52:07,360
I think of DJs like brands
835
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,600
and I think that,
like professional athletes,
836
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,920
there's wear and tear
on the body.
837
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:15,680
There's constant travel,
there's no sleep.
838
00:52:15,720 --> 00:52:18,920
So, I recommend people
for him to go see
839
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,760
and he listens to me
and we work out together
840
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,320
and I think that
there's a whole upkeep
841
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,360
or maintenance element
of his lifestyle
842
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,800
that helps keep him going.
843
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,360
You know, we're at the gym
very early or swimming,
844
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,560
we're then straight
into the office.
845
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,800
We're having lunch
and dinner meetings,
846
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,120
which are usually, you know,
847
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,400
very rarely do I see
any of us having
848
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,160
really personal time.
849
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,080
It's always somewhat mixed.
850
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,480
If I'm out with Ali,
851
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,000
probably I'm out with Laura,
my girlfriend,
852
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:54,920
and Camille, his girlfriend,
853
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:56,560
and we're talking personal,
854
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:57,880
we're talking into business,
855
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,400
we're going back and forth,
856
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,080
and that's kind of how
the whole lifestyle is.
857
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:04,560
Everything is mixed.
858
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,000
[animated conversation]
859
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,280
This isn't a nine to five job.
860
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,360
We don't punch in, you know?
861
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,360
It is a job because
it makes our money,
862
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,000
but this is our life
863
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:24,320
and we really love what we do.
864
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:29,040
So, our personal time and
fun time is our work time.
865
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:34,920
So, it's very hard to say
when anything starts or stops.
866
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,280
[loud bass music]
867
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,760
[high pitched ring]
868
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,600
DJs are a bit like mice
on the wheel kind of thing,
869
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,680
always spinning, always
pleasing the next person,
870
00:54:08,720 --> 00:54:10,680
and then forgetting to
please yourself almost.
871
00:54:10,720 --> 00:54:12,560
You think you're
pleasing yourself
872
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,600
because everyone is standing
in front of you going crazy,
873
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,000
but it's not really.
874
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,800
So, you have to enjoy
the process of doing it
875
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,040
as opposed to just turning up,
876
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,960
thinking I'm going to enjoy it
when I have the day off.
877
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,080
You've got to enjoy
the whole thing.
878
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,640
[Guetta]
What I feel is
879
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,880
life gives you a blessing.
880
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,000
The blessing of being successful
881
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:41,560
when there are millions
of people out there
882
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:46,560
that are dreaming to have
half of the success
883
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,760
that we are having
884
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,560
and when life gives
you this blessing,
885
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,520
I think you cannot refuse it.
886
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,120
We do this because we love it.
It comes from the heart
887
00:54:58,160 --> 00:54:59,400
and that's what spurs
you on, you know?
888
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:00,680
If you love something so much,
889
00:55:00,720 --> 00:55:02,200
it doesn't matter
where you are,
890
00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:04,240
if you're on your own
or how tired you are,
891
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,120
you get in the club and if
892
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,240
the show's amazing,
it's worthwhile.
893
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:09,680
It's worth being tired.
894
00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:11,080
It's worth not seeing
your loved ones.
895
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,200
We do this because we love it.
No other reason.
896
00:55:14,240 --> 00:55:17,400
There's a lot of
difficulties along the way,
897
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,280
but at the end of the day,
I think for all of us,
898
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,640
it's that moment that we get
to the DJ booth or the stage
899
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,160
and we hit play
that it all makes sense.
900
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,480
[upbeat techno music].
901
00:56:49,720 --> 00:56:54,200
When he first
stepped into the room
902
00:56:54,240 --> 00:57:00,360
I already knew that he
was such a Japan freak
903
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:05,120
and he knew so much about Japan
904
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,680
in every different levels
905
00:57:07,720 --> 00:57:10,440
and he's just a
great guy, you know?
906
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:14,400
He works very hard and
he respects the country
907
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,120
and the culture
and the people
908
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,000
and also, he knows
how to have fun,
909
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:22,920
how to have great time
with the people around him.
910
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:24,600
Ali, going back to childhood,
911
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,240
always had a
fascination with Japan.
912
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,440
It was always something
913
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,600
when anything
Japanese would come
914
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,560
on the television
when we were kids,
915
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,280
he would sort of
stop and tune in
916
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,760
and over the years when he
traveled to Tokyo in Japan,
917
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,400
I think he really
embraced the culture.
918
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,280
He felt comfortable there
919
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:48,120
and I think Japanese culture,
again, is very meticulous.
920
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,080
There's an emphasis on quality
921
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,560
and I think Ali
appreciates those virtues.
922
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:56,080
[crowd happily shouting]
923
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:25,080
Yeah. Like this?
924
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,240
West coast, east coast.
925
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,480
So far, he's west coast
and new school.
926
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,160
Many people
cannot even imagine,
927
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:39,440
but there is a big
extreme change in emotions
928
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,400
when you're on the
stage you are at the max
929
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,160
and then you go
back to the hotel,
930
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,800
you are alone,
you and your room
931
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,680
most of the times,
932
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,960
but I try always to
stay with my friends
933
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:59,640
after a big gig.
934
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,680
Like, I don't know,
big festival.
935
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,320
We have the after hours,
the after party.
936
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:04,920
That's why we do after party
937
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:09,760
because then it's like the
celebrating of a success
938
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,440
and I love also, with Ali,
939
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:16,040
many times we do this
because we celebrate together
940
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,480
the music and the freedom.
941
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:23,000
You know, the amazing
thing to stay together
942
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:24,800
and to share something.
943
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,240
So, for me the
continued celebrating.
944
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,720
Of course, not every
time with after hours,
945
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,720
but even when I go
back to the hotel,
946
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,560
I have this
adrenaline, you know,
947
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:41,000
that is like,
I don't know,
948
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,360
after a school exam,
you know,
949
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:47,280
you have this feeling in your
stomach, like butterflies,
950
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:53,080
and I have this before,
during, and after.
951
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:56,760
So, yes. It's special.
Very special.
952
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,600
[phone ringing]
953
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,680
[light dramatic music]
954
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:23,000
We skip from country
to country in hours.
955
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,280
We can play in three
countries in 24 hours.
956
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:27,800
Be in Tokyo one weekend
957
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,600
and one Friday in
New York the next.
958
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,840
So, our minds work this way
959
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:37,560
and that fast-paced mindset,
960
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,600
that love of technology
which helps us play,
961
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:42,680
helps us travel,
helps us communicate
962
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:47,960
is something that I think
we all felt in Japan
963
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:51,640
and I think we all
had that similar rush,
964
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:56,080
that excitement and
felt like we were
965
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,560
stepping one day ahead
of everybody else.
966
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,640
[light dramatic music]
967
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,840
[speaking Japanese]
968
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,480
[upbeat techno music]
969
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,480
[speaking Japanese]
970
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,440
The flavor is fukuzatsu.
971
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:17,800
So many things.
972
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,200
One little piece.
So many things.
973
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:25,960
-Thank you.
-Yeah.
974
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,040
[speaking Japanese]
975
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:59,200
[upbeat techno music]
976
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,720
[speaking Spanish]
977
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,360
[upbeat techno music]
978
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:50,120
If I'm anywhere in the world,
979
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:51,680
Bulgaria or whatever,
980
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:52,960
I say, right, to Ali.
981
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:54,440
Where's the best place to eat?
982
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,000
And guaranteed he'll
have four or five places
983
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:57,880
that are just amazing.
984
01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:59,240
It doesn't have to be high-end,
985
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:00,720
it just has to be good food
986
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:04,080
and he is one of these
DJs that has a love
987
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:07,160
and the knowledge of where
to eat around the world
988
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:08,600
because it's
important to eat good.
989
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,080
It makes you feel good,
990
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:11,840
you feel happy about
what you've eaten,
991
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:15,360
and you can go into
your gig very positive
992
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,480
knowing that you've eaten well
993
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:18,640
and it has an affect on you.
994
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:20,400
It really does.
995
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,480
I mean, even more so than any
time before in our lives now
996
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:26,760
that we're all very health
conscious about what we eat
997
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:28,920
and how it makes you feel.
998
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:33,760
He had the passion with
gastronomy with foods.
999
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,640
He's one of the guys,
you understand?
1000
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,120
He's eating with all those chefs
1001
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,160
and everybody knows him.
1002
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:42,560
That's a nice feeling.
1003
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,320
That's somebody that is
so emotional with food,
1004
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,920
but also has a passion with it
1005
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:51,960
because it's not only food,
it's more than that.
1006
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,760
[speaking Japanese]
1007
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,120
DJs are people loving food.
1008
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:28,920
It's that creative edge,
you know?
1009
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,760
When you travel around
and actually spend
1010
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:33,120
most of your meals
in restaurants,
1011
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:36,600
you start to really
pick up taste, you know?
1012
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,360
And Ali's a man
with a superb taste
1013
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,000
and most people with taste love,
1014
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,880
not only food, but art, fashion,
1015
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,080
and other things in
culture, you know?
1016
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:49,560
And for us, Ali and I,
1017
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,680
one of the top things
next to music is--
1018
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:54,600
that tops investment in
culture is food, you know?
1019
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:57,640
That taste, the
experience, you know?
1020
01:05:57,680 --> 01:05:59,880
They're both experiential
events, you know?
1021
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:01,560
Like both with--
1022
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:06,040
It's like embodying more
than one sense, you know?
1023
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,760
There's something about
that that's just like
1024
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:10,200
the best thing in
life, you know?
1025
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:14,160
Good food, good music,
good friends.
1026
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:15,800
Throw some good sex in there,
1027
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,080
you can't ask for anything else.
1028
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,240
It's a true story.
1029
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,200
I thought it was good.
1030
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,600
It could have used a
bit more seasoning,
1031
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:27,920
you know, for my palate,
1032
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:29,880
but very nice.
1033
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:31,560
Very nice.
1034
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:32,760
The meat was fantastic.
1035
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:34,720
Very tender.
1036
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:36,600
Just for me, a bit
more seasoning,
1037
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:40,720
but I could tell it was
made with love, so congrats.
1038
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:42,600
He is the number
one DJ you call
1039
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:45,400
wherever you are in the world
and say, hey, where am I going
to eat tonight?
1040
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,320
And he's been there
and he's found it.
1041
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:48,440
He's amazing.
1042
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,280
So, it's all about balance
1043
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:53,640
and finding something
outside of the DJ booth
1044
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:55,400
to keep you sane.
1045
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,320
Family is obviously a very
important part of that,
1046
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,320
but it's having other
interests as well.
1047
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:03,640
Staying at the top is
the fucking hardest thing.
1048
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,960
You know, being in this
industry for 30 years
1049
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,800
and consistently
pushing yourself.
1050
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,640
Society wants a new hotel,
1051
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,800
a new club, a new
restaurant, a new DJ.
1052
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:20,240
We all want new, new, new.
1053
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:23,760
The point is, you've
gotta reinvent yourself.
1054
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,240
You've gotta stay connected
1055
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:29,360
to globally playing to
a younger generation
1056
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,760
while you grow older and
grow older gracefully.
1057
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:34,640
You know, you expect
that there's always
1058
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:36,920
going to be someone
new and that's good.
1059
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:38,960
That's good for
all of us, right?
1060
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:42,640
But learning and
understanding that
1061
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:46,480
is more important and
it's more important
1062
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,680
to look at the long haul
and the bigger picture
1063
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:52,640
rather than the five
minutes of fame.
1064
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:56,080
The only positive
that you can find
1065
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,360
when you're at the
top of the game
1066
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:02,640
is to be able to be creative
and reinvent yourself.
1067
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,200
That's the only thing
1068
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:08,560
because you don't wanna
do it for the money.
1069
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:10,240
You already have money.
1070
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,880
You don't want to do
it to be number one,
1071
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:14,800
you're already number one.
1072
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:18,640
So, you already
proved your point,
1073
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:19,920
so it's not about the ego,
1074
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:21,680
it's not about the money.
1075
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:25,320
The only way
to stay there
1076
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:28,360
is for it to be
about the love
1077
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:32,640
and the creativity and the
challenge to reinvent yourself.
1078
01:08:35,480 --> 01:08:38,360
It's a quarter to, so you
might have made your interview.
1079
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,720
Could be rocking and rolling.
1080
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:48,120
We have a lot of
dance music in Hollywood
1081
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:49,320
and everybody is really
into the dance music.
1082
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:50,680
Yeah.
1083
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:51,920
People get spoiled
real easily, you know.
1084
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:53,720
Yeah. Yeah.
1085
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,760
-Do you notice that when you're
in a hall -and it's all--
-Yeah, totally.
1086
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:57,040
Like this guy right here. Yeah.
1087
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:58,520
Everybody's so spoiled.
1088
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:00,600
-They know the music. They know
how to--You know?
-Yeah.
1089
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:01,920
Do you experience
that as well?
1090
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:03,560
Yeah, but I
honestly don't even
1091
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,640
have time to think
about that, you know.
1092
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:07,600
I'm just jetting from
one gig to another
1093
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:09,800
or from one airplane
to another
1094
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:11,560
or one studio
to another.
1095
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:13,040
[Woman] Are you still
enjoying that life?
1096
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:14,680
[Ali] Absolutely enjoy, yeah.
1097
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:17,080
The day I stop enjoying it
is the day I'll hang--
1098
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:18,600
-You'll quit.
-Yeah. I'll quit.
1099
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,560
[Announcer] Make
some noise! Dubfire!
1100
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,520
[crowd cheering]
1101
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:28,640
[upbeat techno music]
1102
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:16,320
[crowd shouting happily]
1103
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:25,600
We could use another set.
1104
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:26,680
My ears are destroyed.
1105
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:27,600
Already?
1106
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:28,920
Three hours.
1107
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,000
[laughing]
1108
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:34,040
It's not that
glamorous, you know.
1109
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:35,560
Sometimes, yes, we
take a private jet
1110
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:36,720
to get to certain parties,
1111
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:38,200
but I've always said,
1112
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:41,600
if I've got to take
more than two flights
1113
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:42,960
to get to a venue,
1114
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:44,600
then I'll take a private jet.
1115
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:46,600
If now, I'll take
domestic airline.
1116
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,240
And the thing with
domestic airline,
1117
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,000
you can't ever guarantee
that your one or two flights
1118
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:52,680
are gonna get you
where you need to be.
1119
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:57,720
There's always
aircraft malfunctions,
1120
01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:59,680
there's always strikes,
1121
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:02,600
there's always mistiming
of connecting flights.
1122
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:04,600
You could be waiting on
delayed flights for hours
1123
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:06,560
and you're just sitting
there, you know.
1124
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:08,720
Three hour delay.
1125
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:10,680
What do you do with that
three hours, you know?
1126
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:15,560
It's terrible when you're just
people watching, you know.
1127
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:18,080
And this is what takes
the time and the energy.
1128
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:19,760
It sucks the energy out of you,
1129
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,360
but you still have to step up,
1130
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:25,000
you still have to
be inside that fire
1131
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:28,720
that basically gets you to
go and do what you're doing.
1132
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:32,360
[mellow electronic music]
1133
01:12:10,440 --> 01:12:12,480
I'll never forget Ali used to
1134
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,280
point to some of these
pictures on the wall
1135
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,640
of the big DJs in the world
1136
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:22,000
that he was looking at the
picture and then looking at me.
1137
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:26,120
"Mom, one day I'll be as
famous as this person."
1138
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:29,760
And another big
dream that he had,
1139
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,360
he said, "One day
can you imagine,
1140
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:35,760
one day I'm going to
travel all over the world
1141
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:37,920
to see the whole world."
1142
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:43,360
And the shine on his eyes as
he was passionately talking
1143
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:47,960
about being one
of those big DJs,
1144
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,640
that pointing to
the big picture,
1145
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:52,080
and seeing the whole world,
1146
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:53,680
and experiencing
the whole world.
1147
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:57,600
That shine is something
that I will never forget.
1148
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:06,400
[upbeat techno music]
1149
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:58,320
Because part of realizing was,
1150
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:00,680
well, what else would I do?
1151
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:03,600
You know? Go open
up a hair salon?
1152
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:06,720
[laughing]
1153
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:10,360
I did ask Ali one time,
how you doing?
1154
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:12,080
To work with him, well,
1155
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:16,680
I am the quiet one, but I
need to have some craziness.
1156
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:18,640
He's more sexy than the other
1157
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:21,440
and I think he agrees with me.
1158
01:15:21,480 --> 01:15:23,600
It's just like, oh, you're
here to have a good time?
1159
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:25,640
Let's go. Let's fucking party.
1160
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,160
I think he enjoys
vampires and,
1161
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:29,720
from what I can gauge,
1162
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:31,720
I knew he had a
collection of some kind
1163
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:36,480
of vampire-type magazines
on his coffee table as well.
1164
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:38,320
You know, they
brought us horse.
1165
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:40,600
Really, I'm not kidding.
1166
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:43,880
The Japanese
restaurant drove horse.
1167
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:45,120
[Interviewer] Okay,
you're gonna tell us.
1168
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:46,120
Whores?
1169
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:47,280
-Yeah.
-Like, sluts?
1170
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:49,200
No, horse.
1171
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:50,280
You know the ones that are.
1172
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:51,320
[Interviewer] Oh, horse!
1173
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:52,560
I thought you said whores.
1174
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:53,960
-No. I would love that.
-[laughing]
1175
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:57,920
Ali picked up an extra
hobby on top of that
1176
01:15:57,960 --> 01:15:59,720
is to be a food connoisseur
1177
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,320
and post every piece
of dish that he's seen
1178
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:04,000
in the last two
years on Instagram.
1179
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:06,160
[laughing]
1180
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:07,560
If you don't know me,
1181
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:09,200
get the fuck off the bus.
1182
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:11,480
Please. In the
nicest possible way.
1183
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:13,560
Because if I came
up to you and said,
1184
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,280
Hey, how you doing?
Can I come to your house?
1185
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:18,000
The answer would be
who the fuck are you?
1186
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:20,160
So, if those are
real fucking answers,
1187
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:22,280
get the fuck off the bus.
1188
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:27,800
[upbeat techno music]
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