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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,000 [ethereal music] 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,560 [man] I remember being on the plane, 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,720 being really scared because I think it was the first time. 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,720 I was seven years old when I came to America 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,560 and it was the first time that I was on a plane 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,360 and we literally tried to take everything of value, 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,040 everything that meant anything to us. 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:32,560 We were, like, really scared about, 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,960 not only facing our new home 12 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,720 or what was to be our new home 13 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,560 at least for the foreseeable future, 14 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,880 because our father was going to university. 15 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,680 Just scared about having left Iran for the first time 16 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,600 and going somewhere that we knew 17 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,480 was going to be completely different. 18 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,720 I saw that there was room for 19 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:58,640 a lot of opportunity to eventually present itself 20 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:03,600 and I saw that had I stayed in Iran, 21 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,720 I probably would have done what was expected of me 22 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:12,560 and done what everybody else had always done, 23 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,240 which is become a doctor, become an engineer, 24 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,560 become a lawyer. You know? 25 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,680 And in America, I felt more freedom 26 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,440 to express myself in creative ways 27 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,680 that maybe, had I stayed in Iran, 28 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,400 I wouldn't have been able to do. 29 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,640 Since I used to be English teacher there, 30 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,720 I was helping Ali to learn the language, 31 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,920 which he picked up pretty quick. 32 00:01:38,960 --> 00:01:44,880 The only time that Ali and Arash had a hard time was, 33 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:49,280 there was a hostage crisis in Iran 34 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,680 and they were kids and they didn't know anything 35 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,320 and at this school, 36 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,880 although their school staff was very understanding 37 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,800 and supportive of them, 38 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,000 but the children at this school couldn't understand it, 39 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,600 so they were giving Ali and Arash a really hard time. 40 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,560 So, they made them practically miserable. 41 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,560 So, that was the time that they needed a lot of help. 42 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:19,200 Ali was average, actually, at school. 43 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,640 There were some subjects that he was pretty great, 44 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,200 but the rest he didn't pay attention, 45 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,600 simply because he was in love with music. 46 00:02:30,640 --> 00:02:34,120 [ethereal music] 47 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:38,600 With help of his friend, Brian Transeau, BT, 48 00:02:38,640 --> 00:02:40,360 he was his classmate. 49 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,320 Eventually, he went into music. 50 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,240 He loved very much 51 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,680 and he constantly continued this interest. 52 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,440 They saw it as a side hobby. 53 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:54,720 I don't think they ever realized 54 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,280 he would pursue it as a career 55 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,480 and at the time it was sort of in the nascent stages. 56 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,120 I mean, it was pre-EDM, if you will. 57 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,680 I mean, DJs were not on magazine covers, 58 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,720 especially in America, you know? 59 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,240 It was a real, sort of underground career path 60 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,200 and I think my parents, at the time, were worried. 61 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,320 They were really hesitant 62 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,840 about him moving into that 63 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,080 as a full time career. 64 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:28,040 I think their initial feelings were probably disappointment. 65 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,400 [Rouhi] He came to me and actually requested, 66 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:36,400 "Mom, if you allow me to pull out and focus 67 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,720 all my attention to my music, 68 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,960 I feel I'm going to be somebody." 69 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,560 And after a long conversation, 70 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:51,560 I agreed that, for him, to focus one year on his music 71 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,360 more than his education 72 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:59,680 and that was actually the year that everything turned around 73 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:04,640 and, by the end of the year, he proved to himself and to me 74 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:09,040 that this is really a special talent that he has got. 75 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:10,880 [Ali] The closeness of family really 76 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,080 has kept me grounded over the years. 77 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,360 I think, had I not had that, 78 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:21,040 I probably would have, you know, 79 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,040 fallen in with the wrong crowd, 80 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,000 maybe gone off the deep end 81 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,760 with the excessive partying, 82 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,960 the crazy night life. 83 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,000 That's basically a part of my scene, 84 00:04:35,840 --> 00:04:38,760 but those core family values 85 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,760 kept me on the right path. 86 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,240 [upbeat club music] 87 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,720 [Hutchy] Ali use to spin hip hop, house, 88 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,160 acid jazz, and funk 89 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:44,840 and I used to spin reggae 90 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,800 and throughout those genres, 91 00:06:46,840 --> 00:06:49,320 I gave the flavor and the mic. 92 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,280 Before then, this was unheard of. 93 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,600 This never had been done before 94 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,600 as far as, you have an MC, you know, 95 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,240 toasting over acid jazz music, 96 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:01,920 hip hop, and stuff. 97 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,640 It never had been done before. 98 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,920 My little brother, my younger brother, 99 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,120 threw a party at a place here called-- 100 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,640 It was a pizza shop, basically, called Milo's 101 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:16,040 and he closed it down and rented it at night 102 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,160 and begged me to have Ali play 103 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,080 because Ali was a sick hip hop DJ. 104 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,640 Actually, the first time I heard the music 105 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:25,840 I remember asking people, what is this? 106 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:26,880 Who is this? 107 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,680 And there was a DJ up there 108 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,800 next to a Jamaican guy who was rapping 109 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,840 and everyone told me it was a guy named Dubfire 110 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,400 and they were playing what's called acid jazz. 111 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,240 And so, essentially, he started playing acid jazz 112 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:42,840 from what I recall. 113 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,840 When we started off, Washington was a ghost town. 114 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,600 Literally a ghost town. 115 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,600 You can count the clubs on one hand 116 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:57,560 and every club has their own specific ways of doing things. 117 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,560 We came in young and radical 118 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,760 and transformed the whole thing, 119 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:07,680 but we were the first to go into a club 120 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:12,600 or a restaurant and make it into a club for that one night. 121 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,080 We happened to be about two and a half blocks away 122 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,000 from the place that I first met him. 123 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,720 Well, it was called the Down Under Restaurant, 124 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,680 but on Fridays and Saturdays 125 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,280 we used to have a night called Exodus 126 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:26,680 and he came in. 127 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,600 He was a very quiet guy, actually. 128 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,560 For the kind of noise he made with the turn tables, 129 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,040 he was a very quiet guy. [chuckles] 130 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,800 And he's very focused, didn't say much. 131 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:38,440 I mean, he came and did his thing 132 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,560 on a regular basis within the years, you know. 133 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,760 But I remember the first time, 134 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,720 he just came in with his record bag and started playing, 135 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,120 but he was very 136 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,600 down to earth, 137 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,240 but very focused. 138 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,560 We didn't participate too much with the crowd, 139 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,800 but every time you would go back and listen to him, 140 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,720 the music would change. 141 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,720 I felt like it just get better and better every week. 142 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,120 Sharam kept coming at Exodus, 143 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,480 but you know, Sharam's music 144 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,920 was completely a different background, 145 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,240 you know, which I respect 100%, 146 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,760 but it was a great combination because 147 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,640 I understood Ali's music was more bottom heavy, 148 00:09:16,680 --> 00:09:18,680 bass-oriented music. 149 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,040 Whether it was slow or fast, it was very bottom heavy. 150 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,800 And the thing with Sharam, 151 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,840 he has the melodic aspect of music. 152 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,720 So, I thought when they were kinda partnering up, 153 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,480 I was like, this could be a good combination. 154 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,120 And then, obviously, we saw it blossom 155 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,320 to this thing what's known as Deep Dish. 156 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:35,960 It's great. 157 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,240 [Sharam] We met through a mutual friend at a party. 158 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:39,560 We were booked to play the same party 159 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:40,960 and we just hit it off musically 160 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,560 and decided to create Deep Dish and here we are. 161 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,040 It's like a marriage: 162 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,040 some days you hate it, some days you love it. 163 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:48,560 -Yeah, because-- -Yeah. 164 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,280 [laughing] 165 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:51,640 In the beginning, 166 00:09:51,680 --> 00:09:54,560 they started a bet each other, 167 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,080 but then they started as a friend. 168 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:03,560 Ali, first he made his room as his studio 169 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,600 and then Sharam used to be with Ali 170 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,600 in our home almost all the time. 171 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:15,240 And since both of them love Persian meal and Persian food, 172 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,640 so I was always ready to make them food 173 00:10:18,680 --> 00:10:20,680 and they used to go to that little room 174 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,040 and work with each other. 175 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:24,600 [Man] So you were like brothers, weren't you? 176 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,160 -Do you feel like brothers? -We're brothers. 177 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:27,680 -Yeah. -Yeah. 178 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,800 I always wanted to have a twin brother, you know? 179 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,400 I thought it would be cool. 180 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:33,720 And then, God gave me this guy. 181 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,040 Yeah, right. Right. 182 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:36,080 It's wicked. 183 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,200 Which I'm regretting-- 184 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,640 You know they say be careful what you ask for? 185 00:10:42,680 --> 00:10:44,280 That was just at the start 186 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,560 when he was Deep Dish with Sharam, 187 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,000 I think in 1993. 188 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,320 I used to go to his resident party, 189 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,400 which was at State of the Union, 190 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,200 a small bar in Washington, DC. 191 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:55,600 I was at university 192 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,640 and this was a gig where him and Sharam 193 00:10:58,680 --> 00:11:01,280 had to assemble everything, 194 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:02,880 all the equipment, all the speakers, 195 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,160 CD players, turn tables, 196 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,080 and they had to play from beginning to end 197 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,880 and they probably got, I don't know how much, 198 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,720 but I'm guessing $150 to play the whole night, 199 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,400 both of them together. 200 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,720 Well, needless to say, things have changed. 201 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:17,680 [laughing] 202 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,360 So, you know-- 203 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:20,760 We go way back 204 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,640 and, even though things have changed a lot, 205 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:25,640 it's nice to see that he hasn't. 206 00:11:25,680 --> 00:11:28,680 [upbeat club music] 207 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,120 I wanna say quiet, but that's not the right word. 208 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,600 He was always the deep in the dish 209 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:54,640 in the Deep Dish equation. 210 00:11:54,680 --> 00:11:56,600 So, he was kinda the deeper guy. 211 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:01,040 I think as a DJ, you know, 212 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:05,600 he liked reggae and hip hop sounds. 213 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:10,160 He obviously had friendships with many of the local DJs, 214 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,200 but he was always sort of the deeper part of that. 215 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,640 They were the biggest DJ duo 216 00:12:16,680 --> 00:12:18,800 in the world at the time. 217 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,680 They were on magazine covers, 218 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,480 they were headlining the best festivals, 219 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,480 their music was number one. 220 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,320 You know, anytime they put a tune out 221 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:31,920 it was number one at Winter Music Conference 222 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,760 it was number one on the UK charts. 223 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,760 They started getting mainstream US press 224 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,560 and, again, this is sort of pre-EDM, 225 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,480 pre-Skrillex and Deadmaus on Rolling Stone. 226 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,080 This is 2005, 2006, 227 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:50,800 so the industry was just sort of emerging, 228 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,680 at least in the US. 229 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,080 It wasn't getting the support that it gets now. 230 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,560 It was really sort of in the embryonic stage. 231 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,160 And for them to achieve what they did with Madonna 232 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,800 and with the remixes and the touring, 233 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,320 it was really significant at the time. 234 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:09,800 [Man] Wednesday is one of the biggest nights 235 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,000 for the musical world. 236 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:12,560 It is Grammy night. 237 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,040 There are several people from our area up for awards. 238 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,800 One is the DC-based remix duo called Deep Dish. 239 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,280 Deep Dish is Ali Shirazinia and Sharam Tayebi. 240 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,800 They were just children when they immigrated here from Iran. 241 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,680 Now, the guys find themselves LA bound, 242 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,840 nominated for best remix recording 243 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,840 of Dido's chart hit Thank You. 244 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,600 We take a song, it could be a rock song, 245 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,080 a pop song, any sort of original material 246 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,840 and we, more or less, reproduce it. 247 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,240 We write our own music, 248 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:41,840 our own drum programming on top of it 249 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:43,960 and we give it our flavor. 250 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,680 The commercial side of things 251 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,640 really came towards George Is On 252 00:13:49,680 --> 00:13:52,320 where Flashcance happened at some stage 253 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,720 and it was clearly the most commercial record 254 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,080 that they'd ever done. 255 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:57,360 It wasn't really a commercial record 256 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:58,720 because at the time it was crazy. 257 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,720 It turned into a commercial formula 258 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,040 after Flashdance was successful, 259 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:08,440 but at the time that Flashdance started to be created, 260 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:09,920 it was impossible to predict. 261 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,600 It would not have been possible to predict 262 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,160 that that would be a commercially successful record. 263 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,600 [Flashdance by Deep Dish] 264 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,640 ♪ He doesn't mean a thing to me 265 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,160 ♪ Just another pretty face to see 266 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:41,480 ♪ He's all over town 267 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,720 ♪ Knocking them down yeah honey 268 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,960 ♪ And I'd never let him next to me 269 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,160 Madonna was doing a pre-tour event 270 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:54,880 at the Roseland Ballroom in New York 271 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,200 and wanted Deep Dish to open up for her 272 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:58,680 and the reason was a phone call, 273 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,560 not a fax or an email at the time was, 274 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:02,840 this was all super-secret. 275 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,360 Nobody could know. 276 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,680 It was gonna be a surprise thing. Blah blah blah. 277 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,360 And, to make a long story short, 278 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,200 the guys ended up opening up for Madonna, 279 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,680 phenomenally successful and this was the precursor 280 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,720 to her Music tour at the time 281 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:20,040 and given that it was in New York, 282 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,040 given that it was in such a small venue, 283 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,080 this was a moment from Heaven for press. 284 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,800 So, a super media event. 285 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,920 And two weeks later, I get this call from Versace 286 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,240 saying that Donatello loves their sound 287 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:36,920 and would they be willing to consider 288 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,800 working on Versace's fashion shows? 289 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,800 I called the guys up 290 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:46,400 and I had to do a lot of explaining and coaxing 291 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,480 because they weren't really into commercial stuff 292 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,600 like that at all and they agreed. 293 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:56,760 So, we flew out to Milan and then did that show 294 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,320 and it was crazy stuff, you know? 295 00:15:58,360 --> 00:15:59,360 Imagine sitting there. 296 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,640 I went on those trips with them. 297 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,160 Imagine sitting there with a fashion designer 298 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,760 who's saying, "I really want this to sound brown. 299 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,160 It has to feel warm." 300 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,720 [upbeat music] 301 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,920 Did Deep Dish pave the way for Swedish House Mafia 302 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,800 David Guetta, Calvin Harris? 303 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,680 I would say, yeah and I think if you ask those guys they would tell you, 304 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,240 especially David Guetta, he's older. 305 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:34,400 I think that Deep Dish influenced a lot of DJs. 306 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,800 I remember being at Pacha 307 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:42,080 and I was a B DJ in France, 308 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,440 but nobody knew me really outside of France 309 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:50,000 and I remember saying hi to Ali and Sharam 310 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,960 and going back to my agent 311 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,960 and saying, oh, my god! I just shook their hands! 312 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,280 [laughing] 313 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,360 And I was so excited because I shook hands 314 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,480 with Ali and Deep Dish and it was such 315 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,920 a big deal for me to meet them. 316 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,760 Deep Dish was definitely one of the first, 317 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:17,120 well, probably the first house music that affected us 318 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,320 and that we heard, you know? 319 00:17:19,360 --> 00:17:21,840 It was Deep Dish and Armin van Houten, I think, 320 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,160 that really got us hooked in the scene. 321 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:28,920 That was really like an American sound. 322 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,920 It was sort of a club sound that you really don't hear 323 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,160 that much anymore nowadays. 324 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:34,080 It was so-- 325 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:37,840 I call it mouth music because I'll show you. 326 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,640 I can only show you what I mean with that. 327 00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:44,560 I think that Ali and Sharam reached 328 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,960 the natural life cycle of any creative partnership. 329 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:53,800 I think that working together for almost two decades 330 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,160 and constantly having to run every decision 331 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,280 past another person, 332 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:03,800 I think that kinda placed its toll on them 333 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,560 and I think they had both matured. 334 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,920 I think that they had grown a lot over that time 335 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:11,840 and I think they were more definitive 336 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,280 about what they wanted out of life. 337 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,920 They were more definitive about what they wanted creatively 338 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,000 and they were veterans at this point. 339 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:23,000 So, I think there was that conflict of values, 340 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:28,800 of each direction Ali and Sharam wanted to go to. 341 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,200 I think that was in conflict at the time. 342 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,920 And he said, "By the way, 343 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,800 Sharam and I fight a lot." [laughing] 344 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,600 "You're gonna be spending a lot of time with us 345 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,040 and you're gonna see us go at it. 346 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,480 Just excuse yourself from the room, 347 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,320 step outside, hang out, 348 00:18:49,360 --> 00:18:51,160 go down the street, get a beer, 349 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,760 go smoke a cigarette, go do whatever you gotta do. 350 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,640 Eventually, everything's gonna kind of subside 351 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,640 and we'll get back to work." 352 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,200 You know, if you think about it, 353 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,040 ten years of touring, 354 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:07,760 ten years of having to be that close with the same person. 355 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,240 You know, it's difficult. 356 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:11,880 You know, the studio relationship, 357 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,560 the creative relationship, 358 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,680 the magic that happened between them didn't come easy. 359 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,640 It wasn't the type of thing where they sat in the studio, 360 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,240 said, "Oh, that's a cool sound. Yeah, let's use that." 361 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:24,840 There were a lot of fights. 362 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,440 I used to go for a walk a lot. [laughing] 363 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,960 You know, funnily enough, thinking back to it, 364 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,160 I don't know if it was that much of a surprise that they split. 365 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,080 I think that there aren't that many DJ duos 366 00:19:37,120 --> 00:19:39,640 and when you've been together with your partner 367 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,440 for as long as they had, 368 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,200 then, in a way, I think it was quite a natural thing. 369 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,120 I think they'd felt they'd taken it as far as they could go. 370 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,080 I think they both-- 371 00:19:50,120 --> 00:19:52,640 the more I got to know them better 372 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,880 and the longer that relationship went on, 373 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,120 they both had kinda-- 374 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,640 they were totally separate people. 375 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,720 They both did something different. 376 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,840 I think it's very hard to find someone 377 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,000 who isn't somehow attracted to money and fame. 378 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,320 I think everybody wants it a little bit, 379 00:20:12,360 --> 00:20:13,800 at least once in their life 380 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,680 and you have that chance, you go that way, 381 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,360 and then you have to decide if it's for you or not 382 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,280 and from my feeling and understanding with Ali 383 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,360 is that he had an incredible ride and had a lot of fun, 384 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,920 but at one point found that there was something missing 385 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:35,560 and I think that's why he looked in another direction, 386 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,800 not only musically, but also for friendship and support 387 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,080 and to, some people would say, 388 00:20:45,120 --> 00:20:47,080 to get back to the roots, 389 00:20:47,120 --> 00:20:48,440 but I think it was just, you know, 390 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,880 get back to why he got involved 391 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,320 in this music in the first place. 392 00:20:53,360 --> 00:20:55,640 You know, we don't follow the rules 393 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,640 and we see ourselves as, like, 394 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,240 you know, I wanna make it in music 395 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:00,840 and everybody tells you no. 396 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,280 If you wanna work in music it's not gonna work. 397 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,240 So many people, you should have to be very lucky 398 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,000 and you can make a living 399 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,120 I just say, "No. I want it like that." 400 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,120 And you just fight to make it like this. 401 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,000 But at the same time, 402 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,840 if you're not happy in a situation, 403 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,240 you have to be honest enough to say, 404 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,840 "You know what, I'm in a peak, 405 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,240 and fuck it, fuck everything, 406 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:27,200 I wanna try again from the beginning." 407 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,560 I didn't think there was anything rocky about them. 408 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,280 I just thought it was just two brothers are together 409 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,280 all the time and they wanted to kill each other, you know? 410 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,200 And if you're together with the same person every day you're gonna fight. 411 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,960 Like me and my partner, we fight all the time and we have disagreements. 412 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,480 That's what I sensed. 413 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,440 I didn't sense anything like to what it became. 414 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,960 I didn't see it coming like that. 415 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,640 [light music] 416 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,040 What I think is what he's done really well for himself, 417 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,880 he got out of Deep Dish just at the right time 418 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,800 where the techno scene would still embrace him 419 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,280 because everybody in the techno scene-- 420 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,320 that's a really hard scene to get into 421 00:22:13,360 --> 00:22:15,840 because everybody's really cool, you know? 422 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,760 And to be part of that scene, 423 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,560 you gotta really say goodbye to anything 424 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,040 that has to do with other than techno 425 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,800 and he did it really well. 426 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,840 You want the real me, man. Right? 427 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,120 This is the real me. 428 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,240 I'm gonna give you the real me. 429 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:31,720 Whatever you want. 430 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,880 Forget all your preconceived notions. 431 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,800 This is Taipei and this is Dubfire. 432 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,720 Initially, there was resistance, you know? 433 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,600 The techno scene is very cliquey. 434 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,560 You have to kinda show them that you're one of them. 435 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,960 Ali spent a lot of time convincing people 436 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,680 that he was part of that new scene 437 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,360 and, you know, we had to help him do that. 438 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,640 I remember him sometimes paying to play. 439 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,320 So, he would be in the UK 440 00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:09,040 and then all of a sudden he has to got to DC10 441 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,840 and basically he would pay to fly himself, 442 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,720 pay for his flight, his hotel, 443 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,840 and then not get paid. 444 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,280 So, it's an interesting process to build yourself down 445 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,160 so you can build yourself better 446 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:26,280 and it's admiring to see somebody do that. 447 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,080 Ali was coming to our parties. 448 00:23:28,120 --> 00:23:32,600 When I say our parties, it was in the early 2000s. 449 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,560 This was where my career started off 450 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,680 and I was playing this kind of percussive, 451 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,200 bringing minimal techno into it 452 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,400 before all of this minimal thing started. 453 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,200 So, he was coming to Ibiza and then I met him in the States 454 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,000 and I always paid my respects. 455 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,800 "Wow, Ali! You should do something like way back in time 456 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,720 and why don't you? Yeah." 457 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,600 And he was like, "Yeah, you're right. 458 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,600 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right." 459 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,440 And then I remember him coming back from Ibiza 460 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,960 after going to DC10 461 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,760 and being like, nope. This is what we're doing. 462 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,360 This is the approach. 463 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,120 This is what I wanna do. 464 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,800 And he was so blown away from that experience 465 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:20,120 that it was all he could see, you know? 466 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,360 That was the only way that this was gonna go down. 467 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,720 We started working on records that were very much 468 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,360 inspired from that trip and several others 469 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,760 and Road Kill, I think, 470 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,320 was one of the turning points for sure. 471 00:24:40,360 --> 00:24:42,800 There was a couple, you know? 472 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,400 I think the Lucky Heather remix 473 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,560 was another big turning point for him musically 474 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:53,560 and also Ribcage was probably, I think, for me, 475 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,880 for him was one of the biggest turning points. 476 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:02,480 After that, I think it really helped solidify 477 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,640 his sort of sound and style 478 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,360 and I feel like that record 479 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,280 has a lot of Ali in it. 480 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,400 I do remember that I asked Ali, 481 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,000 can I release that? 482 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,640 And he was like, "No, we already gave it to local guys 483 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,680 and it's gonna be just like number one." 484 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,560 And I remember that really well 485 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,160 because Ali made some great music before and afterwards, 486 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,080 but Ribcage was a track which 487 00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:31,560 kind of was two tracks in one, you know? 488 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,840 It was like there was a really different beginning 489 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,320 to the very different end, 490 00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:37,000 but it made total sense. 491 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,640 And there, you suddenly had a track 492 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,240 that put you on a journey. 493 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,280 Not only the DJ set puts you on a journey, 494 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,000 also the little track puts you on a journey. 495 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:49,600 When Ribcage came out it was really such a defining sound. 496 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,200 It was so unique, you know, 497 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:52,720 and yet it worked so well. 498 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,400 And it was also an inspiration of saying, 499 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,040 "Hey, you know what? 500 00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,880 It doesn't matter where you are at any given point. 501 00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:02,640 If you have belief and talent, you can take it anywhere." 502 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,480 And that's the beauty of this music, I guess. 503 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,680 Electronic music gives you the ability 504 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,400 to really become or create whatever you want. 505 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,440 And he showed it on a really high level 506 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,960 and it showed guts and it showed excitement 507 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,600 and it showed commitment 508 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,440 and there was no doubt in my mind 509 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,000 he would take it all the way to where he has taken it. 510 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,640 I think the singles, when he put both of them out, 511 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,840 I mean, people from Armin van Buuran, to Tiesto, 512 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,560 to Richie Hawtin were playing 513 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,680 and I think people were really taken aback. 514 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:42,440 They were like, "Wow, where is this coming from?" 515 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,880 You know, there was this darkness and this anger 516 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:50,560 and this new sound that people not only didn't hear, 517 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,280 but they weren't expecting from a guy 518 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,560 that had done Say Hello and Flashdance. 519 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,680 So, I think there was a real surprise 520 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,880 and I think there was a real appreciation 521 00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,680 for his great creative art. 522 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,480 [speaking German] 523 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:47,840 I mean, it was like a "What the fuck?" moment for me. 524 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,400 I don't remember exactly when it was, 525 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,120 but it was definitely 526 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,760 when I heard that he came from another place, 527 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,760 he really came from a place where a lot of techno records 528 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:00,880 weren't coming from at the time. 529 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,320 So, I knew he had something. 530 00:28:04,360 --> 00:28:07,600 [upbeat techno music] 531 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,920 Sven ended up being one of the early supporters. 532 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,000 He put out Ali's first techno compilation on Cocoon. 533 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,720 He started to bring Ali into Cocoon. 534 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,320 Nights in Ibiza are at the Cocoon Club. 535 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,800 So, he was a strong supporter before Richie even was 536 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,840 and I think it was because he connected 537 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,840 with how genuine and how driven 538 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,680 by creative reasons the transition was. 539 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,400 That's why it worked, because it was genuine. 540 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,440 [audience cheering] 541 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,680 Since many years, I love this guy. 542 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,720 [audience cheering] 543 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,440 [Ali] They wanted me to stumble. 544 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,720 They wanted me to find my own way, 545 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,720 but they weren't just watching me 546 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,720 fall apart, so to speak. 547 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,720 They were really there to give me moral support, friendship. 548 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:21,960 They were there to give me 549 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,800 creative advice, technical advice. 550 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,200 So, I'm pretty indebted to those guys. 551 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,600 You know, and I'll never forget what they did. 552 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,840 [upbeat techno music] 553 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:16,360 I worked for the first tour manager and babysitter 554 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:17,760 and party-bringer. 555 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,000 [laughing] 556 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,240 And basically, the main thing is probably 557 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,360 setting up all the equipment 558 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,560 and basically just making sure that everything runs smoothly 559 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:33,560 from pickups, hotels, dinners. 560 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,560 So, he can basically just walk in, do the gig, 561 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,320 feel comfortable not having to worry 562 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,560 about anything sort of technical. 563 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,800 I'm making sure we're picked up, hotels are paid, 564 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,680 dinner's looked after. 565 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,280 So, basically, he can just come do his thing 566 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,560 without having to stress about any of the small details. 567 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,040 So, that's my main part of the job. 568 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,120 He's always been someone that really likes to push 569 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,360 the limits of technology 570 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,600 and it's really good working with him on that 571 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:06,080 because we always just try to incorporate something new. 572 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,720 So, a lot of people talk about my rattlesnake effect, 573 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:14,000 which is just this tape delay thing that I have. 574 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,240 [upbeat techno music] 575 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,640 And what I try to do a lot of times 576 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:29,160 is to create a new version of what I'm playing 577 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,160 just by looping different songs together 578 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,760 and maybe I'll eventually-- 579 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,560 I mean, if I'm having too much fun 580 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,040 just looping parts of a track, 581 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,760 I'll just leave it at that 582 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,560 and other times, eventually, I'll kick in the track 583 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,440 and then it creates a pretty great 584 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,680 feeling in the whole room. So, yeah. 585 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,480 Mike, have you seen the fader plugs? 586 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,240 -[Mike] That's insane. -Yeah. 587 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:53,240 Traktor controller. Traktor controller. 588 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,760 Yeah, for TraKKtor. 589 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,280 All four decks. Everything. 590 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:57,760 A, B, C, D. See? 591 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,720 -Yeah. -That's something else. 592 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,160 He has also great insight on the DJ business 593 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,800 and also what the DJ really needs in the booth. 594 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,000 So, he's one of the guys that we like to talk to 595 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,600 even though, I've got to admit, 596 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,680 when we met it was really more private 597 00:34:13,720 --> 00:34:16,680 and really just hang out and learn a little bit 598 00:34:16,720 --> 00:34:20,320 about the DJ life and maybe 599 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:26,240 one of the managers of one of the companies in our industry. 600 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,600 [Speaking Japanese] 601 00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:28,760 [Ali] It's a powerful feeling. 602 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,600 I mean, DJing can be extremely powerful. 603 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,920 You can be in a situation where 604 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,280 you're in complete control of the crowd. 605 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,560 And that can make you feel, you know, 606 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,160 some people have thrown around that word 607 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:45,840 and there was that Faithless song, I remember, 608 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,760 like, God is a DJ or whatever, 609 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,040 but it can make you feel god-like in some ways. 610 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,560 When you're sort of above ground level, 611 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,680 when you're, you know, in your pulpit, 612 00:35:57,720 --> 00:36:00,760 it can have a very, you know, 613 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,640 powerfully spiritual effect on you 614 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,200 to be in control of so many people. 615 00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:11,600 [soft dramatic music] 616 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,560 There's so many different parameters at play. 617 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,400 There's so many different variables 618 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,240 that sometimes are working with you, 619 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:35,760 sometimes are working against you 620 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,320 that you have to navigate through to find 621 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,600 that point where you connect 622 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,600 and when you connect, it's a beautiful-- 623 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,040 it's like the eye of the storm, you know? 624 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:50,760 It's like that calm, serene place 625 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,720 that pilots have driven into, 626 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,880 that scientists have discussed 627 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,000 as a very unusual, very calm place 628 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,720 in the middle of what could be the worst storm in history 629 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,840 and that's what playing in a club is like 630 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,760 because you're surrounded by all these things. 631 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,200 There's people knocking things over around you, 632 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,560 there's drinks falling on your laptop and on the mixer 633 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,560 and a certain audience member's 634 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,600 trying to get your attention, 635 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,880 certain people behind you or the entourage of the promoter 636 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,720 are trying to get you to pose for photos 637 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:23,920 and all this other stuff 638 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,800 and while all that's going on, 639 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,600 while all that's happening around you, 640 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,200 which is the hurricane, 641 00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:31,720 you're in the center of it all 642 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,120 and you're trying to find that inner peace, 643 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,760 that inner connectivity, 644 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,880 not only within yourself, but with the technology 645 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,800 and ultimately with the audience 646 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,560 and you're trying to bring people into that space. 647 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,400 It's a very warm and inviting space to be in. 648 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,040 [electronic ethereal music] 649 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,480 [music on headphones] 650 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,600 [brass horns] 651 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,960 [upbeat techno music] 652 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,480 [speaking Japanese] 653 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,160 [upbeat techno music] 654 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,320 [speaking Japanese] 655 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,800 [upbeat techno music] 656 00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:51,120 I think what's great about working with Ali 657 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,320 is he travels a lot, he sees lots of things, 658 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:55,560 he's very open-minded, 659 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,000 he takes in lots of influences 660 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,360 and also, he's willing to take a risk, you know? 661 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,440 We've tried to do a 3D show for 4000 people 662 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:06,800 and we'd never done it before, 663 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,760 we didn't know how it was gonna work, 664 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,320 and we tried that and it worked, 665 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,280 but you don't always know how these things are gonna work or not or how 666 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:19,480 much affect they can have. Sometimes, you can have things that 667 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,000 you don't expect to be a big deal 668 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,640 or they're almost something that just happens 669 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,720 and that's when it becomes something of focus. 670 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,800 But what's nice working with Ali 671 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,680 is he's prepared to let those things happen. 672 00:43:33,720 --> 00:43:38,240 He's not too precious or controlling of things 673 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,280 and he places a lot of trust in us 674 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,200 and I think because of that, 675 00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:44,200 he's got the best out of us really. 676 00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:47,440 [upbeat techno music] 677 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,120 [sheet rustling] 678 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,200 When people look at how much money you get 679 00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:22,760 for a night to play a show 680 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,360 and how long you play, maybe you play an hour or two, 681 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,760 it just seems like, "Wow, you make a lot of money." 682 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,760 But then if you think about it, 683 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,120 yeah, I just played an hour, 684 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,680 but I spent eight hours to get to this club 685 00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:37,240 on 30 minutes sleep from the night before 686 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:41,640 and after this it's gonna take me 12 hours to travel home. 687 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,120 If you scale that whole thing, 688 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:47,560 you're getting paid like this much to make music 689 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,000 and then this much for traveling 690 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,880 and dealing with the music life, 691 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:56,640 maybe partying too much and half asleep on a plane 692 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,920 and stuff like that. 693 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,640 I don't think that people realize 694 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,680 how much travel is involved 695 00:45:03,720 --> 00:45:06,240 until you really look at a DJs entire schedule. 696 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:10,840 If you're club-goer A and you're sitting in Dubai 697 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,320 and Ali shows up to play a gig, 698 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,200 you're like, "Wow, that's great. 699 00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:16,680 Ali was here, I'm sure he's staying three or four nights 700 00:45:16,720 --> 00:45:18,640 and he's spending time at the pool." 701 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,240 No. Ali is probably there for 12 hours 702 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,560 and he's playing a set and then he has to get on a plane 703 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,360 to fly somewhere else 704 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,600 and there has to be time to sleep so that he's refreshed 705 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,240 so that the next day when he plays Aman 706 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:36,720 or Beirut or Istanbul or London or Toyko, 707 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,480 he's ready and fresh to perform again 708 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,640 and to be creative and to deliver the experience 709 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,760 that the club-goer wants to have. 710 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,640 You can't be a successful DJ, really, 711 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,360 unless you love traveling. 712 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,280 Maybe for a couple of years you can, 713 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,600 but you've got to love getting on that plane, 714 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,720 going to different places, 715 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,240 revisiting and exploring a little bit. 716 00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:58,680 And Ali loves that. 717 00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:02,720 He loves where that type of situation takes you. 718 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:05,760 When you go to a new place, 719 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,240 you want to meet new people, 720 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:08,600 you want to go to new places, 721 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,320 you want to try new food, new drinks, 722 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,920 and explore everything about that place. 723 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,000 And then, when I'd go on a weekend 724 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,000 and you go from club to club, 725 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,760 maybe you have two shows in a night 726 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,720 and you're not sleeping and you're like, oh, my god, 727 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,640 I'm never drinking again, 728 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,320 I'm like, this is too much for me, 729 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:31,160 but then slowly you get better at it and better at it. 730 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,880 Kinda like being in the Army. 731 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,440 You know, when you first join the Army, 732 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,120 I'm sure you're not used to only two hours sleep, 733 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,000 but later you're like, oh, I have 15 minutes, 734 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,480 I'm gonna sleep right now. 735 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,040 And then, you wake up and you're fine. 736 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:44,800 You just train your body to deal 737 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,760 with that kind of lifestyle. 738 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,720 I need sleep and I love to sleep. 739 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,040 Definitely everybody needs sleep and it's very healthy, 740 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,040 but it's funny because during the week, 741 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,360 if I would sleep only for two hours, 742 00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,400 the next day I would be like, "Oh, my god. 743 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:00,880 I only slept two hours." 744 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,160 But on a weekend or when I'm on tour 745 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,400 and because of your flight schedules or whatever, 746 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,120 you get only two hours of sleep, it's okay. 747 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,760 You're like, I got two hours of sleep, you know? 748 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,680 I can deal with the rest of the night 749 00:47:11,720 --> 00:47:15,600 and that basically shows you it's all a mindset thing. 750 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,280 I mean, ultimately, of course you need sleep, 751 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,760 you need rest, but you can do two, three days 752 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,240 with a little bit of amount of sleep 753 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,480 and you can still manage to do your things in the right way. 754 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,760 [dark dramatic music] 755 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,560 You don't get much sleep over the weekend 756 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,600 when you're doing these kind of events. 757 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,440 But not only that, we do have a daytime life as well. 758 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:24,920 We have relationships, married, kids, 759 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,280 I have a record label to run, 760 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:27,920 I have a radio show, 761 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,680 I do a lot of remixes, 762 00:48:31,720 --> 00:48:33,720 I work in the studio. 763 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,200 All of these things are cumbersome of what makes a DJ. 764 00:48:37,240 --> 00:48:38,960 And also, when we put the events on, 765 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,960 things all need to be worked out in meetings, 766 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,600 things that you have to go and see, 767 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,600 and not only that, we have people that we need to see 768 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,360 from a financial point of view. 769 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,560 You know, marketing structures, 770 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,400 all this kind of stuff. 771 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:58,120 It really is a part of-- this success 772 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:03,760 has created all of what we basically 773 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,560 need to understand and what we need to go through 774 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,480 to be able to go to that party 775 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,720 and do what we do at the other end of it 776 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,600 and that is all time. 777 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,760 It takes so much time, 778 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,040 but it's necessary to do it 779 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:18,600 otherwise the wheels of the industry 780 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,360 doesn't keep turning if you're just like 781 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,000 [yawning] 782 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:23,920 "What time is it? Eight o'clock in the evening. 783 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,640 All right, I'll get some food and go to the party." 784 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,760 All these meetings and things are backed up 785 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,680 and things that you need to know about 786 00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:31,760 have not been done 787 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,920 and then, it all falls down. 788 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,600 So, you have to be on top of the game, 789 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,280 not just from the DJing point of view, 790 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:39,720 but from the nuts and bolts of the industry 791 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,680 point of view as well. 792 00:49:41,720 --> 00:49:44,120 DJing or playing music for people, 793 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:45,840 it's a lonesome life. 794 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,920 Much like the life of a cowboy 795 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:55,320 and life on the road is like life on the prairie. 796 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:59,360 Alone to your words, to your horse and yourself. 797 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,680 [Camille] I never went on tour with him 798 00:50:03,720 --> 00:50:06,720 and I was used to being on my own all the time. 799 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,480 So, I'd be like, see you when you get back, 800 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,680 and I had no idea where he would go. 801 00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:12,480 So, I was like, "Oh, okay. You're going to DJ. 802 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:13,920 Cool. See ya." 803 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:15,600 And then, he would come back and he was like, 804 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,200 I'm so tired, and I was like, 805 00:50:17,240 --> 00:50:19,200 "What did you do? 806 00:50:19,240 --> 00:50:20,240 Where have you been? 807 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,080 What's going on with you?" 808 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,040 But he never was like, 809 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:26,920 "Oh, I'm just gonna sit back and chill." 810 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,680 He always wanted to do something or go out. 811 00:50:29,720 --> 00:50:35,400 So, I probably didn't get the end of that being tired thing 812 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,800 until like two years later into the relationship. 813 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,280 I think to stay on top of everything, 814 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,000 all the DJs just take lots of drugs. 815 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,480 I say that because I think some people out there 816 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,800 actually think that's the case 817 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,760 and that's the only way it actually works. 818 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:56,320 Most of the DJs I know have had crazy times in their lives 819 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,200 and in their careers where perhaps they were experimenting 820 00:50:59,240 --> 00:51:02,880 and drinking a lot and doing lots of things, 821 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,440 but most of the DJs now 822 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,560 who are on top of their game 823 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,640 are quite disciplined. 824 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,880 So, they have a schedule that's pretty intense 825 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,960 between staying fit-- 826 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,640 because staying fit means playing your best. 827 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,480 Staying fit also means a clear mind 828 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,960 that allows you to work and run companies. 829 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,200 [upbeat techno music] 830 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:58,040 I always make sure that Ali has time for Ali. 831 00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:02,080 I've introduced him to wellness doctors, 832 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:03,400 to physical therapists. 833 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,680 I think of Ali as a brand. 834 00:52:05,720 --> 00:52:07,360 I think of DJs like brands 835 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,600 and I think that, like professional athletes, 836 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,920 there's wear and tear on the body. 837 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:15,680 There's constant travel, there's no sleep. 838 00:52:15,720 --> 00:52:18,920 So, I recommend people for him to go see 839 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,760 and he listens to me and we work out together 840 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,320 and I think that there's a whole upkeep 841 00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,360 or maintenance element of his lifestyle 842 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,800 that helps keep him going. 843 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,360 You know, we're at the gym very early or swimming, 844 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,560 we're then straight into the office. 845 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,800 We're having lunch and dinner meetings, 846 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,120 which are usually, you know, 847 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,400 very rarely do I see any of us having 848 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,160 really personal time. 849 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,080 It's always somewhat mixed. 850 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,480 If I'm out with Ali, 851 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,000 probably I'm out with Laura, my girlfriend, 852 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:54,920 and Camille, his girlfriend, 853 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:56,560 and we're talking personal, 854 00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:57,880 we're talking into business, 855 00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,400 we're going back and forth, 856 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,080 and that's kind of how the whole lifestyle is. 857 00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:04,560 Everything is mixed. 858 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,000 [animated conversation] 859 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,280 This isn't a nine to five job. 860 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,360 We don't punch in, you know? 861 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,360 It is a job because it makes our money, 862 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,000 but this is our life 863 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:24,320 and we really love what we do. 864 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:29,040 So, our personal time and fun time is our work time. 865 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:34,920 So, it's very hard to say when anything starts or stops. 866 00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,280 [loud bass music] 867 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,760 [high pitched ring] 868 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,600 DJs are a bit like mice on the wheel kind of thing, 869 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,680 always spinning, always pleasing the next person, 870 00:54:08,720 --> 00:54:10,680 and then forgetting to please yourself almost. 871 00:54:10,720 --> 00:54:12,560 You think you're pleasing yourself 872 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,600 because everyone is standing in front of you going crazy, 873 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,000 but it's not really. 874 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,800 So, you have to enjoy the process of doing it 875 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,040 as opposed to just turning up, 876 00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,960 thinking I'm going to enjoy it when I have the day off. 877 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,080 You've got to enjoy the whole thing. 878 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,640 [Guetta] What I feel is 879 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,880 life gives you a blessing. 880 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,000 The blessing of being successful 881 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:41,560 when there are millions of people out there 882 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:46,560 that are dreaming to have half of the success 883 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,760 that we are having 884 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,560 and when life gives you this blessing, 885 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,520 I think you cannot refuse it. 886 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,120 We do this because we love it. It comes from the heart 887 00:54:58,160 --> 00:54:59,400 and that's what spurs you on, you know? 888 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:00,680 If you love something so much, 889 00:55:00,720 --> 00:55:02,200 it doesn't matter where you are, 890 00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:04,240 if you're on your own or how tired you are, 891 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,120 you get in the club and if 892 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,240 the show's amazing, it's worthwhile. 893 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:09,680 It's worth being tired. 894 00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:11,080 It's worth not seeing your loved ones. 895 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,200 We do this because we love it. No other reason. 896 00:55:14,240 --> 00:55:17,400 There's a lot of difficulties along the way, 897 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,280 but at the end of the day, I think for all of us, 898 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,640 it's that moment that we get to the DJ booth or the stage 899 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,160 and we hit play that it all makes sense. 900 00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,480 [upbeat techno music]. 901 00:56:49,720 --> 00:56:54,200 When he first stepped into the room 902 00:56:54,240 --> 00:57:00,360 I already knew that he was such a Japan freak 903 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:05,120 and he knew so much about Japan 904 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,680 in every different levels 905 00:57:07,720 --> 00:57:10,440 and he's just a great guy, you know? 906 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:14,400 He works very hard and he respects the country 907 00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,120 and the culture and the people 908 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,000 and also, he knows how to have fun, 909 00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:22,920 how to have great time with the people around him. 910 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:24,600 Ali, going back to childhood, 911 00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,240 always had a fascination with Japan. 912 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,440 It was always something 913 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,600 when anything Japanese would come 914 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,560 on the television when we were kids, 915 00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,280 he would sort of stop and tune in 916 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,760 and over the years when he traveled to Tokyo in Japan, 917 00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,400 I think he really embraced the culture. 918 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,280 He felt comfortable there 919 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:48,120 and I think Japanese culture, again, is very meticulous. 920 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,080 There's an emphasis on quality 921 00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,560 and I think Ali appreciates those virtues. 922 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:56,080 [crowd happily shouting] 923 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:25,080 Yeah. Like this? 924 00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,240 West coast, east coast. 925 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,480 So far, he's west coast and new school. 926 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,160 Many people cannot even imagine, 927 00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:39,440 but there is a big extreme change in emotions 928 00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,400 when you're on the stage you are at the max 929 00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,160 and then you go back to the hotel, 930 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,800 you are alone, you and your room 931 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,680 most of the times, 932 00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,960 but I try always to stay with my friends 933 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:59,640 after a big gig. 934 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,680 Like, I don't know, big festival. 935 00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,320 We have the after hours, the after party. 936 00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:04,920 That's why we do after party 937 00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:09,760 because then it's like the celebrating of a success 938 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,440 and I love also, with Ali, 939 00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:16,040 many times we do this because we celebrate together 940 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,480 the music and the freedom. 941 00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:23,000 You know, the amazing thing to stay together 942 00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:24,800 and to share something. 943 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,240 So, for me the continued celebrating. 944 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,720 Of course, not every time with after hours, 945 00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,720 but even when I go back to the hotel, 946 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,560 I have this adrenaline, you know, 947 00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:41,000 that is like, I don't know, 948 00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,360 after a school exam, you know, 949 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:47,280 you have this feeling in your stomach, like butterflies, 950 00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:53,080 and I have this before, during, and after. 951 00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:56,760 So, yes. It's special. Very special. 952 00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,600 [phone ringing] 953 01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,680 [light dramatic music] 954 01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:23,000 We skip from country to country in hours. 955 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,280 We can play in three countries in 24 hours. 956 01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:27,800 Be in Tokyo one weekend 957 01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,600 and one Friday in New York the next. 958 01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,840 So, our minds work this way 959 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:37,560 and that fast-paced mindset, 960 01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,600 that love of technology which helps us play, 961 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:42,680 helps us travel, helps us communicate 962 01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:47,960 is something that I think we all felt in Japan 963 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:51,640 and I think we all had that similar rush, 964 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:56,080 that excitement and felt like we were 965 01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,560 stepping one day ahead of everybody else. 966 01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,640 [light dramatic music] 967 01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,840 [speaking Japanese] 968 01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,480 [upbeat techno music] 969 01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,480 [speaking Japanese] 970 01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,440 The flavor is fukuzatsu. 971 01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:17,800 So many things. 972 01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,200 One little piece. So many things. 973 01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:25,960 -Thank you. -Yeah. 974 01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,040 [speaking Japanese] 975 01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:59,200 [upbeat techno music] 976 01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,720 [speaking Spanish] 977 01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,360 [upbeat techno music] 978 01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:50,120 If I'm anywhere in the world, 979 01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:51,680 Bulgaria or whatever, 980 01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:52,960 I say, right, to Ali. 981 01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:54,440 Where's the best place to eat? 982 01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,000 And guaranteed he'll have four or five places 983 01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:57,880 that are just amazing. 984 01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:59,240 It doesn't have to be high-end, 985 01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:00,720 it just has to be good food 986 01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:04,080 and he is one of these DJs that has a love 987 01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:07,160 and the knowledge of where to eat around the world 988 01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:08,600 because it's important to eat good. 989 01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,080 It makes you feel good, 990 01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:11,840 you feel happy about what you've eaten, 991 01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:15,360 and you can go into your gig very positive 992 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,480 knowing that you've eaten well 993 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:18,640 and it has an affect on you. 994 01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:20,400 It really does. 995 01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,480 I mean, even more so than any time before in our lives now 996 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:26,760 that we're all very health conscious about what we eat 997 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:28,920 and how it makes you feel. 998 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:33,760 He had the passion with gastronomy with foods. 999 01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,640 He's one of the guys, you understand? 1000 01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,120 He's eating with all those chefs 1001 01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,160 and everybody knows him. 1002 01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:42,560 That's a nice feeling. 1003 01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,320 That's somebody that is so emotional with food, 1004 01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,920 but also has a passion with it 1005 01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:51,960 because it's not only food, it's more than that. 1006 01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,760 [speaking Japanese] 1007 01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,120 DJs are people loving food. 1008 01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:28,920 It's that creative edge, you know? 1009 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,760 When you travel around and actually spend 1010 01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:33,120 most of your meals in restaurants, 1011 01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:36,600 you start to really pick up taste, you know? 1012 01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,360 And Ali's a man with a superb taste 1013 01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,000 and most people with taste love, 1014 01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,880 not only food, but art, fashion, 1015 01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,080 and other things in culture, you know? 1016 01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:49,560 And for us, Ali and I, 1017 01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,680 one of the top things next to music is-- 1018 01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:54,600 that tops investment in culture is food, you know? 1019 01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:57,640 That taste, the experience, you know? 1020 01:05:57,680 --> 01:05:59,880 They're both experiential events, you know? 1021 01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:01,560 Like both with-- 1022 01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:06,040 It's like embodying more than one sense, you know? 1023 01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,760 There's something about that that's just like 1024 01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:10,200 the best thing in life, you know? 1025 01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:14,160 Good food, good music, good friends. 1026 01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:15,800 Throw some good sex in there, 1027 01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,080 you can't ask for anything else. 1028 01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,240 It's a true story. 1029 01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,200 I thought it was good. 1030 01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,600 It could have used a bit more seasoning, 1031 01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:27,920 you know, for my palate, 1032 01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:29,880 but very nice. 1033 01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:31,560 Very nice. 1034 01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:32,760 The meat was fantastic. 1035 01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:34,720 Very tender. 1036 01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:36,600 Just for me, a bit more seasoning, 1037 01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:40,720 but I could tell it was made with love, so congrats. 1038 01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:42,600 He is the number one DJ you call 1039 01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:45,400 wherever you are in the world and say, hey, where am I going to eat tonight? 1040 01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,320 And he's been there and he's found it. 1041 01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:48,440 He's amazing. 1042 01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,280 So, it's all about balance 1043 01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:53,640 and finding something outside of the DJ booth 1044 01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:55,400 to keep you sane. 1045 01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,320 Family is obviously a very important part of that, 1046 01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,320 but it's having other interests as well. 1047 01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:03,640 Staying at the top is the fucking hardest thing. 1048 01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,960 You know, being in this industry for 30 years 1049 01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,800 and consistently pushing yourself. 1050 01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,640 Society wants a new hotel, 1051 01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,800 a new club, a new restaurant, a new DJ. 1052 01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:20,240 We all want new, new, new. 1053 01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:23,760 The point is, you've gotta reinvent yourself. 1054 01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,240 You've gotta stay connected 1055 01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:29,360 to globally playing to a younger generation 1056 01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,760 while you grow older and grow older gracefully. 1057 01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:34,640 You know, you expect that there's always 1058 01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:36,920 going to be someone new and that's good. 1059 01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:38,960 That's good for all of us, right? 1060 01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:42,640 But learning and understanding that 1061 01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:46,480 is more important and it's more important 1062 01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,680 to look at the long haul and the bigger picture 1063 01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:52,640 rather than the five minutes of fame. 1064 01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:56,080 The only positive that you can find 1065 01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,360 when you're at the top of the game 1066 01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:02,640 is to be able to be creative and reinvent yourself. 1067 01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,200 That's the only thing 1068 01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:08,560 because you don't wanna do it for the money. 1069 01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:10,240 You already have money. 1070 01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,880 You don't want to do it to be number one, 1071 01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:14,800 you're already number one. 1072 01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:18,640 So, you already proved your point, 1073 01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:19,920 so it's not about the ego, 1074 01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:21,680 it's not about the money. 1075 01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:25,320 The only way to stay there 1076 01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:28,360 is for it to be about the love 1077 01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:32,640 and the creativity and the challenge to reinvent yourself. 1078 01:08:35,480 --> 01:08:38,360 It's a quarter to, so you might have made your interview. 1079 01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,720 Could be rocking and rolling. 1080 01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:48,120 We have a lot of dance music in Hollywood 1081 01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:49,320 and everybody is really into the dance music. 1082 01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:50,680 Yeah. 1083 01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:51,920 People get spoiled real easily, you know. 1084 01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:53,720 Yeah. Yeah. 1085 01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,760 -Do you notice that when you're in a hall -and it's all-- -Yeah, totally. 1086 01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:57,040 Like this guy right here. Yeah. 1087 01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:58,520 Everybody's so spoiled. 1088 01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:00,600 -They know the music. They know how to--You know? -Yeah. 1089 01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:01,920 Do you experience that as well? 1090 01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:03,560 Yeah, but I honestly don't even 1091 01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,640 have time to think about that, you know. 1092 01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:07,600 I'm just jetting from one gig to another 1093 01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:09,800 or from one airplane to another 1094 01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:11,560 or one studio to another. 1095 01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:13,040 [Woman] Are you still enjoying that life? 1096 01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:14,680 [Ali] Absolutely enjoy, yeah. 1097 01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:17,080 The day I stop enjoying it is the day I'll hang-- 1098 01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:18,600 -You'll quit. -Yeah. I'll quit. 1099 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,560 [Announcer] Make some noise! Dubfire! 1100 01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,520 [crowd cheering] 1101 01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:28,640 [upbeat techno music] 1102 01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:16,320 [crowd shouting happily] 1103 01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:25,600 We could use another set. 1104 01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:26,680 My ears are destroyed. 1105 01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:27,600 Already? 1106 01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:28,920 Three hours. 1107 01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,000 [laughing] 1108 01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:34,040 It's not that glamorous, you know. 1109 01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:35,560 Sometimes, yes, we take a private jet 1110 01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:36,720 to get to certain parties, 1111 01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:38,200 but I've always said, 1112 01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:41,600 if I've got to take more than two flights 1113 01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:42,960 to get to a venue, 1114 01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:44,600 then I'll take a private jet. 1115 01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:46,600 If now, I'll take domestic airline. 1116 01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,240 And the thing with domestic airline, 1117 01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,000 you can't ever guarantee that your one or two flights 1118 01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:52,680 are gonna get you where you need to be. 1119 01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:57,720 There's always aircraft malfunctions, 1120 01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:59,680 there's always strikes, 1121 01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:02,600 there's always mistiming of connecting flights. 1122 01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:04,600 You could be waiting on delayed flights for hours 1123 01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:06,560 and you're just sitting there, you know. 1124 01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:08,720 Three hour delay. 1125 01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:10,680 What do you do with that three hours, you know? 1126 01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:15,560 It's terrible when you're just people watching, you know. 1127 01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:18,080 And this is what takes the time and the energy. 1128 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:19,760 It sucks the energy out of you, 1129 01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,360 but you still have to step up, 1130 01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:25,000 you still have to be inside that fire 1131 01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:28,720 that basically gets you to go and do what you're doing. 1132 01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:32,360 [mellow electronic music] 1133 01:12:10,440 --> 01:12:12,480 I'll never forget Ali used to 1134 01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,280 point to some of these pictures on the wall 1135 01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,640 of the big DJs in the world 1136 01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:22,000 that he was looking at the picture and then looking at me. 1137 01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:26,120 "Mom, one day I'll be as famous as this person." 1138 01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:29,760 And another big dream that he had, 1139 01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,360 he said, "One day can you imagine, 1140 01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:35,760 one day I'm going to travel all over the world 1141 01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:37,920 to see the whole world." 1142 01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:43,360 And the shine on his eyes as he was passionately talking 1143 01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:47,960 about being one of those big DJs, 1144 01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,640 that pointing to the big picture, 1145 01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:52,080 and seeing the whole world, 1146 01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:53,680 and experiencing the whole world. 1147 01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:57,600 That shine is something that I will never forget. 1148 01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:06,400 [upbeat techno music] 1149 01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:58,320 Because part of realizing was, 1150 01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:00,680 well, what else would I do? 1151 01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:03,600 You know? Go open up a hair salon? 1152 01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:06,720 [laughing] 1153 01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:10,360 I did ask Ali one time, how you doing? 1154 01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:12,080 To work with him, well, 1155 01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:16,680 I am the quiet one, but I need to have some craziness. 1156 01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:18,640 He's more sexy than the other 1157 01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:21,440 and I think he agrees with me. 1158 01:15:21,480 --> 01:15:23,600 It's just like, oh, you're here to have a good time? 1159 01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:25,640 Let's go. Let's fucking party. 1160 01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,160 I think he enjoys vampires and, 1161 01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:29,720 from what I can gauge, 1162 01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:31,720 I knew he had a collection of some kind 1163 01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:36,480 of vampire-type magazines on his coffee table as well. 1164 01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:38,320 You know, they brought us horse. 1165 01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:40,600 Really, I'm not kidding. 1166 01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:43,880 The Japanese restaurant drove horse. 1167 01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:45,120 [Interviewer] Okay, you're gonna tell us. 1168 01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:46,120 Whores? 1169 01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:47,280 -Yeah. -Like, sluts? 1170 01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:49,200 No, horse. 1171 01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:50,280 You know the ones that are. 1172 01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:51,320 [Interviewer] Oh, horse! 1173 01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:52,560 I thought you said whores. 1174 01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:53,960 -No. I would love that. -[laughing] 1175 01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:57,920 Ali picked up an extra hobby on top of that 1176 01:15:57,960 --> 01:15:59,720 is to be a food connoisseur 1177 01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,320 and post every piece of dish that he's seen 1178 01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:04,000 in the last two years on Instagram. 1179 01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:06,160 [laughing] 1180 01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:07,560 If you don't know me, 1181 01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:09,200 get the fuck off the bus. 1182 01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:11,480 Please. In the nicest possible way. 1183 01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:13,560 Because if I came up to you and said, 1184 01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,280 Hey, how you doing? Can I come to your house? 1185 01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:18,000 The answer would be who the fuck are you? 1186 01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:20,160 So, if those are real fucking answers, 1187 01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:22,280 get the fuck off the bus. 1188 01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:27,800 [upbeat techno music] 85442

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