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Well, good morning, Sacramento.
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If you're just joining us, it's 8:38 am.
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It's a beautiful day out there,so make the most of the things that...
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Finally, after all these years,we're getting something done.
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I guess my patience finally paid off.
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I had told the police
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that me and my brother
witnessed my dad murdering Chris and Peta.
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I was prepared to just give my testimony,
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but I knew I was putting my lifein my hands.
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He can kill you.He can bury you in the backyard
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and he's gotten away with it
more than once.
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Yeah, I'm looking over my shoulder,but I have to make my dad
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accountable for his crimes
and stop him from hurting somebody else.
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We just couldn't believe
that we were in this position.
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After so many decades,
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the FBI had tracked Boston down.
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We obtained informationthat he was staying
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at a senior care facility
in Eureka, California.
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I was very vengeful.
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I wanted my pound of flesh off him.
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He was age 75,
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and all this time,he was still a free man.
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We were going to arrest Silas Duane Boston
for the homicides of Peta and Chris.
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This guy has killed
multiple people before,
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and I wasn't gonna take it lightly.
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We felt that justice was within our grasp.
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We go to his room.
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And he's not there.
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I don't think he can be caught.
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He covers his tracks too well.
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My heart started beating.
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He's got away again.
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It made me sick to my stomach,
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'cause I'm the snitch.
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He might be trying to find me
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to come and kill me.
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{\an8}Where is he?
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We were assuredhe'd been under surveillance,
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{\an8}and that there is no way
he can move anywhere.
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{\an8}We determined that two days prior
to us arriving in Eureka,
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{\an8}he had transferred to another senior
care facility in Paradise, California.
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We are flying along Highway 36.
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Probably a four, or five hour drive.
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We felt he'd slipped away again,
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and we were not going
to see justice again.
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Our concern is we don't knowif the nurse is calling over there,
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and we don't want him to go on the run.
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I come around the cornerand sitting there in a wheelchair,
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kind of moving his selfwith his legs is Duane.
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You could see his eyes just got big.
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{\an8}We tell him that he's under arrest
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{\an8}for the murders of Chris Farmer
and Peta Frampton.
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He really didn't say anything.
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if you didn't knowwhat he had done to Peta and Chris,
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you'd be like, "That justlooks like a nice old guy,
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"sitting there in a wheelchair."
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But just feel, kind of,
a coldness that was there.
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He was a bad guythat needed to go to jail.
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This was a win for Peta and Chris.
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75-year-old Silas Duane Boston
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was tracked down by the FBI and arrested
in a Paradise convalescent home.
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Charged with murdering
a young Manchester couple
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in Guatemala nearly 40 years ago.
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Christopher Farmer and Peta Frampton,
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from Manchester,are boyfriend, girlfriend.
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They'd just finished at university.
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They were celebrating their graduationwith a round-the-world trip.
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{\an8}Both Farmer and Framptonwere tortured, and hog tied,
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{\an8}thrown in the middle of the oceanto drown.
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The case would go coldfor nearly four decades.
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Someone from England had the original file
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in their garden shed, you know?
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Does it get better than that?
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Yes!
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{\an8}Got you.
You black-hearted bastard.
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Silas Duane Boston was arrested
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after Greater Manchester Policereopened the case
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at the request of the victims' families.
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I went downstairs
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to tell Mum the good news.
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After 38 very long years,
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he was finally in custody.
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We opened a bottle of champagne
and raised a glass to Chris and Peta.
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Over 30 years of silence.
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{\an8}I know what it would
have meant to Charles
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{\an8}to know he was arrested.
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He'd always begged the policeto let us speak to the two boys.
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Once again, the case came alive.
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Everything changed.
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{\an8}He's under arrest, he's in custody.
Now it's actually going to happen.
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When I saw that mugshotfor the first time, it was shocking.
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{\an8}I hadn't seen him in so many years.
He didn't look the same.
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I always knew thatthere was a monster beneath the mask,
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but now it's likethe mask has been lifted.
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I felt physically ill.I couldn't look at it.
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At the time of the murders,Russell and Vince were 11 and 13,
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but in interviews this year,
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they told an FBI agentthey saw their father kill the couple.
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We were very grateful that the boys
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were prepared
to get onto the witness stand
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and testify against their father.
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{\an8}I had felt very antagonistic towards them,
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but then I hadn't realised
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they were obviously scared stiff of him.
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If he's found guilty
of killing Frampton and Farmer,
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he'll face the death penalty
or life in prison.
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So how do you feel? We got him.
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Great, you know?
Let's jump cartwheels and...
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you know, slap high fives all round.
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It was a relief of a huge burden.
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I didn't wanna be afraid anymore.
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But I felt these mixed emotions.
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I'm the one that's started the machinery
to put him to his death.
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That's my dad, you know?
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I'm killing my dad,
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the good guy with the bad guy.
You can't separate the two.
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Extraordinary story this, isn't it?
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A young couple from Manchester disappear,
nearly 40 years ago
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and now, finally, the law authorities
in the United States
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believe that they do know
how they were killed,
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how they were murdered,
and who was responsible.
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We wanted the world to know he was guilty.
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But I was aware that being arresteddidn't mean that he was convicted.
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We knew we were infor a long and messy trial.
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All our faith and hope was put
in Matt Segal, the prosecutor.
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{\an8}In 2015, I was the Chief
of the Special Prosecutions Unit
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of the US Attorney's Office
for the Eastern District of California.
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This was an extraordinary case.
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Two people were murdered,
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and the man who did itevaded justice for 38 years,
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and his two sons say
that they saw him kill them.
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You can't kill people.
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And if there's a prosecutable case
of murder, it has to be charged.
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It's in the United States' Constitution
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that people are entitled to be provenguilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
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I'm a Federal Public Defender,
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and I was appointed
to represent Duane Boston
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in the case against him.
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I became a Public Defenderbecause I wanted to represent people
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who didn't have the money
to hire fancy attorneys.
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The Defence Attorneyis straight out of central casting
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for your Federal Public Defender,
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with a lot of experience and smarts.
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My job is
to hold the government's feet to the fire,
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and I have absolutely no problem
fighting that fight.
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They're innocent until proven guilty,and I believe in that very strongly.
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If you were accused of something,
you'd want me to represent you that way.
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I was glad that he was gonna
get the best representation.
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It was a serious accusation.
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But we were gonna go 100%,no matter who was representing him.
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Like, you can't just lock people up.
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A jury of 12 regular people
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has to decide beyond a reasonable doubt,
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"Yeah, that happened. He did it."
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I only need one juror to have a doubt.
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Could we face the awful thought
of getting an innocent verdict?
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Any seed of doubt in the story,
one little chink in the armour,
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and he's walking out.
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{\an8}I start reading the complaint.
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{\an8}And it's a much stranger complaintthan normal.
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To have a homicide case from the 1970s
was incredibly unusual.
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To have a case that took place in,
allegedly, Guatemala, was highly unusual.
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And Vincent and Russell's story
is very compelling
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and it seems true on the surface,
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but when the story is being told
with such creative details,
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it just doesn't ring true as people
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who are telling something
30 years later, that actually happened.
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They corroborate each other.
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They're telling, substantially,
the same story about what they saw,
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because that is what they saw.
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The words that were spoken...
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Supposedly Chris saying,"What's your game, man?"
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The billy club broke after the beating,
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even sitting with the naked persontied up below,
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none of it read to me
like facts of a case.
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Those kinds of details
actually raise a red flag to me
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as being untruthful.
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When something very traumatic happens,
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your brain goes to places to protect you,
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and you sometimes can't remember details
or can't even see details.
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There's a lot of studies about
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eyewitness identifications
of traumatic events
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where one person's telling of it
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is completely different from another's
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because their brains are just
working in ways
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to protect them from this trauma.
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Neither one of the boys said,
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"It's been a really long time.
I was very traumatised by it.
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"I put it out of my mind."
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Or, "I repressed itand so I don't really remember,
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"but I know I saw this thing happen."
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If there's no contemporaneous writing
or contemporaneous way of recording,
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people just don't remember those things.
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The mind's not a tape recorder
and memory's sometimes not exactly valid.
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But all I can do is tell the story
of what I saw in front of my own eyes.
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Any effective defence would require
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a cross examination
for the ages of those guys.
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The motive for Russell and Vincentto lie about their dad
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was very apparent to me.
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That was something
that screamed off the page.
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The boys were convinced
from a very young age
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that their father had killed their mother.
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Everyone knows he's killed her.
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I'm gonna tell you
exactly what he did to my mom.
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The earliest memories I have of our mom,
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she was in the kitchen,
playing the Beatles.
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That was one of her favourite groups.
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Somehow, we started calling her
Mommy Mary-Lou.
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And I just remember this warm feeling
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that she loved us kids
and we were her whole world.
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When she met my dad, she was 17,
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which is still considered a minor,
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and my dad was a few years older.
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The story was she ran away with himwith 25 bucks in her pocket.
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It scared her family,but she had fallen for Dad.
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Dad could be very charming
if he wanted to be,
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especially over women.
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At first, he was a caring dad.
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But he turned.
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He was doing drugs, and partying,
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and eventually being abusive.
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She had to get away from him.
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She started dating someoneand filed for a divorce,
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but he wouldn't let her leave.
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He took her to an orchard.
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And told her he was going to shoot her.
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While she was running,
he shot her in the back.
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Then he buried her in a shallow grave
somewhere, we don't know where.
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Grandma told us,
"Your dad showed me his hands.
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"He had blisters on his hands
from digging her grave."
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And he was crying and saying,
"I had to kill Mary, I had to shoot her,
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"because she was gonna leave meand I didn't wanna lose my kids."
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When she went missing,the police questioned my dad.
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He said that they were separated,
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she had emptied the savings account
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and she was dating this radio disc jockey.
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And he never saw her again.
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I think at the time, in the late '60s,
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a woman was thought that
she should be in the kitchen
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just...
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not date anybody else
when she's getting a divorce.
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So like, "Hey, you know,
she's going on with her life."
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She was getting away from his abuse.
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What were they thinking back then?
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He killed my mom in cold blood.
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They just took everything he saidas the truth.
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They let him go.
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And then meanwhile, my mom's
in a shallow grave somewhere.
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We haven't been ableto find out where my mom is.
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My dad actually told us himself
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that we'll never find her
in a million years.
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And that he buried her in
or near a creek bed,
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and the creek bed caved in on her.
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Where could he have taken her?
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He told us that he loved my mom,
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and out of all the people that he killed,
she's the only one he regrets killing.
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When you murder somebody's motherfor your own selfish needs
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and say, "I did it because I love you..."
Really? Is that love?
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You sicken me.
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I think this was the first timehe was able to...
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commit a murderand talk his way out of it.
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And I think it set things
up for the future for him,
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realising that
if he did things a certain way,
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he could get away with murder
over and over again.
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When somebody's missing, it's horrible.
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You can't think about anything else,
you can't come to terms with it.
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Desperate, absolutely desperate.
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You don't know what to do,
you don't know who to turn to.
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I think it's human nature
to wanna know what happened,
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to get some kind of a closure,
even though you know they can't come back.
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If my dad's convicted, he might finallytell me where he buried my mom.
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Vincent spenta tremendous amount of effort
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trying to get themto reopen the investigation
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into their mother's disappearance.
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It's unclear whether she died,
they never found a body,
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and they just simply weren'tgetting any traction there.
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They were told by family membersfrom a young age
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that Peta and Chris had gone missing
and that they had last been on the boat,
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and that police officers
were investigating Mr. Boston.
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So, they know he's a suspect in this.
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The story of Chris and Peta
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was always told in combination with
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"Let's find him responsible
for killing our mother."
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I'm looking for an opportunityto raise doubt about their credibility.
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In this case, I'm very confident
that I have a lot to say.
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The attack on Vince and Russ is,
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"You just made this up
to get back at your dad
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"because you think he murdered your mom."
Which is crazy, in itself, as a defence.
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So now, Duane looks
like a three times murderer,
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who, when he kills,
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does his best to dispose of the bodiesin a way that they'll never be found.
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So, it's a tough position for the defence,
in my opinion.
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It's very problematic for me,
except I think the way I would do that
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is I would cross examine and say,
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"You believe that your fatherwas responsible for killing your mother."
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"You know that he was clearedof doing that and that made you angry.
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"You believed in your heartthat that's what happened
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"because that's what
your grandmother told you."
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Why did your grandma tell you that?
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Maybe in her mind, she felt some guilt.
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And even though she would never turn in
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little Duaney, her son, her baby,
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she wanted us to know the truth.
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She knew that he was killing people.
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She would chastise him,"Duane, you can't be doing that."
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But she would tell us kids,
"You gotta keep the family circle intact."
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That's why he committed so many crimes
and got away with them.
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Through this investigation, back in 1981,
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I know that his father knew where he was,
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but his father enabled him
by concealing him.
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My grandpa pretty much funded the tripdown to Mexico and Belize
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because Dad was facing charges
for statutory rape.
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{\an8}I remember one night I woke up and heard
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the young woman in distress.
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It wasn't unusual for him
to bring home ladies,
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but this was different.
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And she was saying,"Just stop. No, please stop",
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in a crying voice.
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The next morning, he's like,
"Hey, about last night...
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"Dummy up, shut the fuck up about that".
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This young ladywas under the age of consent,
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so they were able to press charges
of statutory rape against my dad.
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Next thing we know,he went and got us passports
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and headed down to Belize.
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A few weeks later,
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Grandpa came down and brought us money,and bought us a boat.
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The Justin B.
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The rape charges were dropped
for whatever reason, I don't know.
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Grandpa knew, but he didn't tell Dad.
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I think that if Dad knew,
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we would've come back home.
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It was just so galling to thinkif Boston had been told,
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he wouldn't have met Chris and Peta.
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{\an8}You just think,
"I wish you'd never been there."
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{\an8}You know?
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Their paths crossing the way they did.
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They were lambs to the slaughter.
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{\an8}Duane was deepin this western outlaw culture,
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doing crime, not talking about it.
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He conveyed a lot of that forcefully,for decades, to his sons.
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It was a really big deal when they finally
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told the police what their dad had done.
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It restored your faith in humanity
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that they had tried to do something,
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that they hadn't replicated
his grotesque human nature,
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if you can call him human.
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He's an evil guy
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that's actually killing people,
hurting people.
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In my mind, he committed these crimes
and he deserved to face judgment,
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even if it was 20, 30, 40, 50 years later.
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Obviously in a modern case,
we'd wanna see photographs,
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we'd wanna see that rope.
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We would wanna see
how their hands were bound,
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and a modern autopsy
would document all of those things.
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The evidence we hadwas very old documents,
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lots of dead witnesses.
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We didn't have the autopsy report,
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and there's no DNA,which was strange to me.
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The last time the bodies were seenwas in the '70s.
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By the records of the exhumation,
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they put the bodies undermarked grave markers in Guatemala.
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This makes the case very strong
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if they have those bodies
and they have DNA.
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I assume it's coming.
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We had sent some agents down to Guatemala,
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to locate the graves of Chris and Peta.
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We had planned to exhume the skeletons
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and send those up to the FBI laboratory
to be held for trial.
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I was told, "It's really important
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"because then it will give us
the DNA match to yours."
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The cemetery was very chaotic,and it was proving very hard.
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Unfortunately, they couldn't
find the grave sites.
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I was extremely disappointedI couldn't make that happen.
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We were horrified.There were photographs of their graves
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and it was a very well documented
and witnessed exhumation.
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This was really worrying.
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It's very complex to decide that
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those bodies are Peta and Chris,
without DNA testing.
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Peta and Chris could've
gotten off the boat
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and something could've
happened to them after.
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I don't have to prove anything,
I just raise reasonable doubt.
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If we could've recovered a body
from that cemetery,
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gotten DNA out of it
and matched it to the families,
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then we would've absolutely known,
in a completely incontrovertible way.
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But...
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I just keep returning to the fact
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that we had two eyeball witnesses
to these murders.
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They corroborated each other
and they were corroborated by documents.
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There's a Belize port documentthat Charles Farmer got, that says,
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"Hey, who was on the boat?"
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It was Duane, Chris, Peta, Russ and Vince.
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But Chris and Peta weren't on the boatwhen they got to Livingston.
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And we knew we had something
when we had Peta's letter.
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"13th June, 1978.
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"Dear Mum, all our plans have changed.
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"An American called Duane,
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"who owns a Belizean boatcalled the Justin B,
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00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,480
"offered to take us up Chetumal by sail.
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00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,200
"We thought it was an opportunitynot to be missed,
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"especially as Chriswants sailing experience."
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00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,440
It puts her on the boat, the Justin B.
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00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,480
It puts her with Duane and two kids.
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00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,920
{\an8}It's almost like she was speaking to us.
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00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,240
{\an8}Then, the letter is posted on July 18th.
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That was about a week
after the bodies washed up.
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So, it wasn't Peta who sent that letter.
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00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,600
I remember Dad looking at the envelope.
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00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,680
If he mails it,then that gives him a few extra days,
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00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,160
'cause then they'd think,
"They're still alive."
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He ended up mailing it in Livingston.
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00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:26,160
{\an8}And then, it turns out that Boston
saved a lot of stuff over time.
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00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,880
My dad kept Chris' cassette tapes.
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00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,800
Russ found them in my dad's belongingsand handed them over to the police.
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00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,520
It was horrible that Boston had
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kept hold of Chris'
much-loved music tapes,
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that he'd cherished and put together
from all his vinyl records.
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00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,120
It was just a further violation.
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That's powerful circumstantial evidence,
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and if the jury believes the two sons,
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the only verdict is guilty
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because they are eyeball witnesses
to the murders.
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I was ready for it.
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00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,720
I can't get wrapped up in
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if I'm gonna be attacked personally,
or discredited, or thrown under the bus.
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00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,080
All I could do is tell the truthand be the best witness I could be.
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00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,880
Bring it on. I have the truth on my side.
427
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,080
Boston had been in custodyfor two months at this point.
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00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,080
We were just absolutelydesperate to get to trial.
429
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,000
We were worried.They couldn't find the bodies.
430
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:56,960
But we felt we had a very strong casebecause of Vince and Russell's testimonies
431
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,880
and that we would win.
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00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,960
We were asked if we wanted
to seek the death penalty
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00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:08,920
and my mother, really without hesitation,said, "No".
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00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,880
There's something absolutely abhorrentabout legal death.
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00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,880
Although, you know,
he'd done unspeakable things,
436
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:25,240
I don't think that killing somebodyreally solves anything.
437
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,320
We wanted to go quickly
438
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,920
so we could get a convictionbefore anything happened to Audrey.
439
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,960
But the government'snot in charge of that, the court is.
440
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,680
And so we had to persuade the court
to set a speedy trial.
441
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,600
We ended up in district courtbefore the trial judge.
442
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,920
The 75-year-old, wheeled into a SacramentoFederal Courtroom this afternoon,
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{\an8}seemed feeble and needed a listeningdevice to hear court proceedings.
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00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,720
{\an8}But the Silas Duane Bostondescribed in this federal complaint
445
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{\an8}was anything but weak, 38 years ago.
446
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,840
When I saw Boston come into the courtroom
for the first time,
447
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,240
I noticed how awful he looked.
448
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,760
He was obviously very ill,and we could see that before our eyes.
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00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,240
He was in a wheelchair,he's on medication.
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00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,360
He was losing weight already.
I mean, he was a very sick man.
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00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,400
If we were the last stop
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to being able to deliver justice
for a double murder,
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00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:29,840
then that had to happen.
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But the defence was trying to delay trial.
455
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,360
We just couldn't commit to a sooner trialwhen we're not ready.
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If we needed attorney-client time with himto get the case together,
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he was going to have tobe a little bit healthy.
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My mum wrote a letter to the judge.
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"Dear Sir, I'm writing to askif you will please consider
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00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:02,960
"setting a date as soon as possiblefor the trial of Silas Duane Boston
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"for the murder of my beloved son,
462
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:10,120
"Doctor Christopher Farmer,and his girlfriend, Peta Frampton.
463
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,680
"The brutal manner in whichmy son's life was taken
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"has left an enduring and very painful gapin my family's life,
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"which no amount of time will heal,
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00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,440
"but I will derive a sense of closurefrom knowing that his killer
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"has been apprehendedand appropriately sentenced."
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00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,840
We were given a provisional trial date
of October 2nd,
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00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,360
and we couldn't wait to face him in court.
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00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:43,080
I was hoping, every day,that I would get that call telling me,
471
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,560
"Be in this Sacramento court
on this date, at this time",
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and I was ready. I was ready.
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00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,520
I would leave in a heartbeat.
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00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,360
I wanted to look him in the eye
across the courtroom
475
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:59,080
and convey an unspoken message to him.
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00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,240
"Got you."
477
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,920
All I kept thinking is, "How arethey going to secure a conviction?
478
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,960
"Will they be ableto provide unequivocal evidence?
479
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,120
"Will the jury decide to find him guilty?"
480
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,000
He has to be guilty.
481
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,960
I just wanted to kill him.
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00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:19,840
Mum was 92.
483
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,040
I think she felt it was the last thingshe could do for Chris,
484
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,440
to stand in that courtroomand face Boston.
485
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,640
I want to draw a line under it.
486
00:34:30,720 --> 00:34:32,360
After all these years...
487
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,200
We'd finally got him.
488
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,000
Now let's go convict him.
489
00:34:49,720 --> 00:34:50,760
I get a call.
490
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,480
"Your dad has passed away.
491
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,680
"He just died in custody."
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00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,400
And my head just starts spinning.
493
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:10,240
The message came throughabout two o'clock in the morning.
494
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,840
it just said,
"Silas Duane Boston has died."
495
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:16,800
I went and woke Mum up,
496
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,400
and just said, "He's dead."
497
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,360
It was just so depressing.
498
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,640
We were powerless, again.
499
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,960
{\an8}When the suspect died in jail
before standing trial,
500
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,760
{\an8}what impact did that have
on you and your family?
501
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,360
We were devastated,
it was just a further blow.
502
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,680
We came two weeks away
from going over to Sacramento
503
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,200
to give pre-trial evidence,
504
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,200
and he effectively
exited life on his own terms.
505
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,560
He didn't want us to have justice.
506
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,840
We were told by his medical team
507
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:55,760
that he refused food and his medicine.
508
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,960
So in effect, he took his life.
509
00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:05,440
He knew that we knew he'd killed them.
510
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,360
He couldn't face us.
511
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:15,000
Four months in custody doesn'treally equate to the four decades
512
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:19,080
where we didn't know what had happened.
513
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,840
I knew that this case
514
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,880
had been ever present
in their moment-to-moment daily lives.
515
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,000
But criminal cases and criminal trials
516
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,400
do not necessarily bring people any peace.
517
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,560
He might not have been convictedand then what?
518
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,800
Do you have your peace or closure
even though there's no jury conviction?
519
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:45,840
I'm disappointed.
520
00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:49,360
It would've been a great, great trial.
521
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:54,800
But what happened to him was always
what I had planned for the case,
522
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,640
in the sense that he didn't
walk free again post arrest.
523
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,920
The sons were essential
524
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,920
in providing what justice
we could provide in this case.
525
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,600
Death is pretty permanent,there's no coming back from that.
526
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,600
No matter what feelings I had toward him,
527
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,040
this was a finality,
528
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:28,840
a chapter closing. He's never
going to be on this planet again.
529
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,160
This evil monster is gone.
530
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,920
I remember we'd go to the parks
here in Sacramento and fly kites.
531
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,560
He'd tied the kite onto a fishing line.
532
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,480
It had got so high in the air
that it was just a little dot.
533
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,560
And he was like, "Whoa,that's the highest kite in the world."
534
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,040
And we were like, "Yay." It's pretty cool.
535
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,280
He wasn't always bad,
he wasn't always a horrible person,
536
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:14,800
and that's what made it rough.
537
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,400
If he was an asshole all the time,
it'd be easy to deal with.
538
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,160
But when...
539
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,760
It's just confusing as a child, it's like,
540
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,880
this is a cool dad
that you want to bond with,
541
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,560
but you know what he's capable of.
542
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,320
The evil that he did, it had such a reach.
543
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:48,200
Not just for my family, but the Framptons,
and his own family.
544
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:50,920
A lot of people have suffered,
545
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,920
everybody that could've known my mom.
546
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,120
She was an amazing artist, she could've
shared that art with the world.
547
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,440
Or... Chris was a doctor, 25 years old.
548
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,160
Think of all the livesthat he could've saved.
549
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:08,280
Peta was an attorney, think ofall the people that she could've helped.
550
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:13,560
And it's not just that one person,
it's everybody in their circle.
551
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:20,920
I can remember, Chris was about 12,we were out for a walk.
552
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,280
And I had a moment of complete happiness.
553
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,760
He and I were walking hand in hand,
554
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:32,080
and I thought, you know,how lovely life is.
555
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:34,840
I do remember that,
556
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,480
when we were just the two of us together.
557
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:44,000
It was a fleeting moment
and I don't think I've ever quite...
558
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,720
experienced that again.
559
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,480
Boston never gave Vince and Russell
560
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:03,680
the satisfaction of knowingwhere he'd buried Mary Lou.
561
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,840
I'll forever have the pain
of losing my mom.
562
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,480
I am trying to find herso I can bring her home.
563
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,240
As human beings, we want that closure.
564
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,160
Letting her rest in peace
565
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:28,520
instead of buried like trash
in a shallow grave somewhere.
566
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,080
Maybe it's beautiful,maybe it's picturesque,
567
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,800
if there's a river thereand mountains or something.
568
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:41,600
But there's an unexplainable feelingof wanting to know where she is.
569
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,320
Even now I still feel thatthere's somebody missing.
570
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:59,520
Do you think one of your ways of coping
was this fight for justice?
571
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:00,840
Oh, absolutely.
572
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,040
Law enforcement failed ustime and time again.
573
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,720
Our family was the only point of cohesion,
574
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,920
the only constant.
575
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,840
Now to an update on a story
which we have reported
576
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,080
on North West Tonight
several times in the past,
577
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,560
the murders of the Manchester couple
Chris Farmer and Peta Frampton
578
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,400
on a yacht, 40 years ago in Guatemala.
579
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,000
Well, their families were told
the remains had been lost forever,
580
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:27,880
and even the FBI couldn't find them,
581
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,800
but new clues led Chris' sister
to a remote graveyard.
582
00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:38,400
{\an8}When you lose somebody,the most devastating thing is
583
00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:41,320
everybody else forgets them,
584
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,480
but you don't, and you don't want to.
585
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,720
What survives after death is love.
586
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,800
As a hurt party, you want justice.
587
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,360
It doesn't make amends,
588
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,080
but you at least feel...
589
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,480
that you have done everything you can
590
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,400
{\an8}to have avenged their murders.
591
00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:10,720
- Found them!
- What?
592
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:12,840
Found Chris!
593
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,560
- That's amazing.
- Extraordinary, isn't it?
594
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,480
{\an8}I was just amazed to find them.It was such a relief.
595
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,560
Boston never counted on us
596
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,160
having the fortitude and strength and love
597
00:42:31,240 --> 00:42:33,880
to fight back for Chris and Peta.
598
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,920
He thought they would be just forgotten,
599
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,360
and disappear into that ocean,never to be seen again.
600
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:47,840
But how wrong was he?
601
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,520
They will live on
602
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,320
in a different sort of way,on a different plane.51289
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