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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:29,780 --> 00:00:32,366 [tense music] 2 00:00:50,926 --> 00:00:53,888 [tense music] 3 00:01:10,404 --> 00:01:11,864 [gunshot] 4 00:01:26,796 --> 00:01:29,006 [dramatic music] 5 00:01:37,556 --> 00:01:39,642 [Whoopi Goldberg] The evening of the assassination, 6 00:01:39,725 --> 00:01:43,062 the body of President Kennedy was returned to Washington. 7 00:01:43,437 --> 00:01:46,899 The autopsy was performed at Bethesda Medical Center, 8 00:01:46,982 --> 00:01:48,400 a naval institution. 9 00:01:48,484 --> 00:01:50,152 And there has always been a question 10 00:01:50,236 --> 00:01:52,655 about the practices of the men who performed 11 00:01:52,738 --> 00:01:54,448 what was one of the most important 12 00:01:54,532 --> 00:01:57,868 and confusing autopsies of the 20th century. 13 00:01:59,620 --> 00:02:01,705 -Would Milton Helpern in New York 14 00:02:01,789 --> 00:02:04,333 have been a good choice to do the autopsy? 15 00:02:04,792 --> 00:02:06,836 -I know this directly from Milton, 16 00:02:06,919 --> 00:02:09,964 this is not hearsay. 17 00:02:10,047 --> 00:02:12,633 He had his bag packed. 18 00:02:12,716 --> 00:02:15,928 And he had already contacted two other top forensic pathologists 19 00:02:16,011 --> 00:02:17,763 to see if they would be available. 20 00:02:17,847 --> 00:02:19,723 All of the top forensic pathologists 21 00:02:19,807 --> 00:02:22,059 in the United States were within one-hour drive 22 00:02:22,142 --> 00:02:23,644 or flying time from D.C. 23 00:02:23,727 --> 00:02:25,813 Not one of them was called upon. 24 00:02:25,896 --> 00:02:27,857 The autopsy should have been done, 25 00:02:28,399 --> 00:02:30,860 legally speaking, in Dallas. 26 00:02:31,068 --> 00:02:33,821 And there was a forensic pathologist, Earl Rose. 27 00:02:33,904 --> 00:02:35,906 He was there to assume jurisdiction 28 00:02:35,990 --> 00:02:37,950 and to do the autopsy. 29 00:02:38,033 --> 00:02:41,328 He was pushed up against the wall and threatened. 30 00:02:41,412 --> 00:02:44,331 Hands on guns, a lot of expletives and so on, 31 00:02:44,415 --> 00:02:45,833 he followed them out to the driveway, 32 00:02:45,916 --> 00:02:49,420 and they took the body illegally out of Dallas, 33 00:02:49,503 --> 00:02:52,715 in violation of the laws of Dallas and the state of Texas. 34 00:02:53,007 --> 00:02:55,092 -There were two Navy pathologists, 35 00:02:55,175 --> 00:02:56,302 Commander James Humes, 36 00:02:56,385 --> 00:02:58,637 and his associate, Jay Thornton Boswell. 37 00:02:58,721 --> 00:03:02,057 These two military pathologists who had never done 38 00:03:02,141 --> 00:03:05,644 a single gunshot wound autopsy in their entire careers. 39 00:03:05,728 --> 00:03:08,022 And this is something that really has to be emphasized 40 00:03:08,105 --> 00:03:09,732 to every American-- I don't care, 41 00:03:09,815 --> 00:03:11,442 Democrat, Republican, liberal, conservative. 42 00:03:11,525 --> 00:03:12,651 This is your president. 43 00:03:12,735 --> 00:03:15,154 And you've got multiple gunshot wounds 44 00:03:15,237 --> 00:03:18,407 to determine angles, trajectory, range, sequence. 45 00:03:18,490 --> 00:03:19,575 And then you've got to correlate 46 00:03:19,658 --> 00:03:21,577 with the multiple gunshot wounds in Connally. 47 00:03:21,660 --> 00:03:24,038 This is a formidable task that would have required 48 00:03:24,121 --> 00:03:28,125 two or three major forensic pathologists to undertake. 49 00:03:28,208 --> 00:03:30,502 So they called Humes and Boswell. 50 00:03:30,586 --> 00:03:31,795 -They realize they're over their head. 51 00:03:31,879 --> 00:03:32,963 They called in an expert 52 00:03:33,047 --> 00:03:35,049 from the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology, 53 00:03:35,132 --> 00:03:36,759 a guy named Pierre Finck. 54 00:03:36,842 --> 00:03:39,261 Dr. Humes and Boswell started the autopsy 55 00:03:39,345 --> 00:03:41,639 before their forensics consultant even got there. 56 00:03:41,722 --> 00:03:43,265 They took the brain out. 57 00:03:43,349 --> 00:03:45,684 Obviously, some key clues would've been lost 58 00:03:45,768 --> 00:03:46,936 by doing that. 59 00:03:47,019 --> 00:03:48,687 But they realized they were in over their head, 60 00:03:48,771 --> 00:03:51,231 so they asked to have a medical examiner 61 00:03:51,315 --> 00:03:52,191 because Dr. Finck, 62 00:03:52,274 --> 00:03:55,069 who is a forensic pathologist, wasn't doing autopsies. 63 00:03:55,152 --> 00:03:56,820 He hadn't done one in more than two years. 64 00:03:56,904 --> 00:03:58,822 So they asked for permission to bring in somebody 65 00:03:58,906 --> 00:04:01,825 who knew what they were doing. Permission was denied. 66 00:04:02,368 --> 00:04:03,744 [Goldberg] After Air Force One 67 00:04:03,827 --> 00:04:05,913 left Dallas for Washington, 68 00:04:05,996 --> 00:04:08,082 two of the key doctors who had tried to save 69 00:04:08,165 --> 00:04:10,459 Kennedy's life at Parkland Hospital 70 00:04:10,542 --> 00:04:12,127 held a press conference. 71 00:04:12,211 --> 00:04:15,339 They were Dr. Malcolm Perry and Dr. Kemp Clark. 72 00:04:16,465 --> 00:04:18,717 -What were the two major points of evidence 73 00:04:18,801 --> 00:04:20,928 revealed by Kemp Clark and Malcolm Perry 74 00:04:21,011 --> 00:04:22,179 at the press conference? 75 00:04:22,262 --> 00:04:25,057 -Dr. Perry performed the tracheotomy 76 00:04:25,140 --> 00:04:26,392 to help Kennedy breathe. 77 00:04:26,850 --> 00:04:28,185 And at a press conference 78 00:04:28,268 --> 00:04:31,438 right after the failed resuscitation efforts in Dallas, 79 00:04:31,522 --> 00:04:33,107 he was asked, he said, well, where was the bullet? 80 00:04:33,190 --> 00:04:35,025 He said the bullet looked like it was coming at him. 81 00:04:35,109 --> 00:04:36,777 He had an entrance wound in the throat. 82 00:04:36,860 --> 00:04:39,738 Kemp Clark was the head of neurosurgery at Parkland. 83 00:04:39,822 --> 00:04:42,700 He said that the president had a gaping wound 84 00:04:42,783 --> 00:04:44,618 in the occipital parietal area, 85 00:04:44,702 --> 00:04:46,912 that's, you know, the right rear of the head. 86 00:04:46,996 --> 00:04:48,747 And so the description he gave of that 87 00:04:48,831 --> 00:04:51,500 was entirely consistent with an exit wound. 88 00:04:51,583 --> 00:04:53,419 And he made that clear in the press conference. 89 00:04:53,877 --> 00:04:55,546 [Goldberg] What Clark and Perry both revealed 90 00:04:55,629 --> 00:04:57,047 at that press conference 91 00:04:57,131 --> 00:05:00,509 would indicate an assassin from the front, 92 00:05:00,592 --> 00:05:02,678 but no news footage has survived. 93 00:05:03,137 --> 00:05:05,514 Although Assistant White House Press Secretary 94 00:05:05,597 --> 00:05:07,975 Malcolm Kilduff's statement that day 95 00:05:08,475 --> 00:05:10,394 seems to support this conclusion. 96 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,522 -Dr. Burkley told me that it was 97 00:05:13,605 --> 00:05:19,361 a simple matter of a bullet right through the head. 98 00:05:21,280 --> 00:05:23,032 [reporter] President Kennedy, we are now informed, 99 00:05:23,115 --> 00:05:24,658 was shot in the right temple. 100 00:05:24,742 --> 00:05:26,660 It was a simple matter of a bullet 101 00:05:26,744 --> 00:05:29,413 right through the head, said Dr. George Burkley, 102 00:05:29,496 --> 00:05:31,248 the White House medical officer. 103 00:05:32,249 --> 00:05:33,250 -We have a transcript today 104 00:05:33,333 --> 00:05:34,877 of what they said at the press conference. 105 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,130 So it's White House transcript 1327-C. 106 00:05:38,213 --> 00:05:39,715 That's a very important historical document 107 00:05:39,798 --> 00:05:42,718 because the Secret Service confiscated the videotapes 108 00:05:42,801 --> 00:05:44,720 from the local TV stations. 109 00:05:44,803 --> 00:05:47,014 [Goldberg] The Secret Service also lied 110 00:05:47,097 --> 00:05:48,098 to the Warren Commission 111 00:05:48,182 --> 00:05:50,809 about there being no recordings or transcripts 112 00:05:50,893 --> 00:05:52,561 of the news conference. 113 00:05:52,644 --> 00:05:56,607 There is, however, a surviving clip of Dr. Perry 114 00:05:56,690 --> 00:05:59,693 recorded not long afterward, where he confirms 115 00:05:59,777 --> 00:06:03,197 having seen a large wound in the back of the head. 116 00:06:17,086 --> 00:06:18,378 The day after the shooting 117 00:06:18,462 --> 00:06:20,214 and the Parkland press conference, 118 00:06:20,297 --> 00:06:23,008 Dr. Perry was seen by nurse Audrey Bell, 119 00:06:23,092 --> 00:06:25,344 who had been with him in the operating room. 120 00:06:25,427 --> 00:06:27,346 [Audrey Bell] Saturday morning when I got over there, 121 00:06:27,429 --> 00:06:30,349 Dr. Perry came up to the office. 122 00:06:30,432 --> 00:06:32,226 I said, you look awful. 123 00:06:32,309 --> 00:06:34,103 Did you get any sleep last night? 124 00:06:34,186 --> 00:06:36,522 He said, well, not too much. 125 00:06:36,605 --> 00:06:40,150 Between the calls from Bethesda that came in during the night. 126 00:06:40,234 --> 00:06:41,401 I said, what about? 127 00:06:41,485 --> 00:06:45,114 He said, oh, whether that was an entrance wound 128 00:06:45,197 --> 00:06:46,824 or an exit wound in the throat. 129 00:06:46,907 --> 00:06:49,910 He said, they were wanting me to change my mind. 130 00:06:49,993 --> 00:06:51,745 -In his Warren Commission testimony, 131 00:06:51,829 --> 00:06:54,414 he basically retracted what he had said, 132 00:06:54,498 --> 00:06:56,834 and they forced him to back down 133 00:06:56,917 --> 00:07:00,379 and sort of intimidated him on the witness stand. 134 00:07:00,462 --> 00:07:03,257 It was really quite embarrassing for me as a physician 135 00:07:03,340 --> 00:07:05,801 to see how someone else who was telling the truth 136 00:07:05,884 --> 00:07:08,470 was basically forced to recant his own opinion. 137 00:07:08,971 --> 00:07:14,184 -In 1975, Dr. Shires hired me on the faculty 138 00:07:14,268 --> 00:07:18,438 at the University of Washington in the cardiac surgery division. 139 00:07:18,522 --> 00:07:22,401 So I got to know Malcolm when I joined the faculty. 140 00:07:22,484 --> 00:07:24,611 We developed a professional relationship, 141 00:07:24,695 --> 00:07:28,198 and we would operate together on complex cases. 142 00:07:28,282 --> 00:07:31,243 And I was particularly interested in 143 00:07:31,493 --> 00:07:33,954 Dr. Perry's position 144 00:07:34,288 --> 00:07:36,623 with the JFK assassination because 145 00:07:37,207 --> 00:07:40,377 he did the tracheotomy on him after he was shot. 146 00:07:40,460 --> 00:07:44,339 The problem is that Malcolm categorically refused 147 00:07:44,423 --> 00:07:47,092 to ever discuss the assassination. 148 00:07:48,343 --> 00:07:51,054 And he wouldn't answer my questions about that neck wound. 149 00:07:51,138 --> 00:07:53,765 And then one night, after we had operated together 150 00:07:53,849 --> 00:07:56,226 for many hours on a complex case, 151 00:07:56,894 --> 00:07:59,188 we were sitting in the surgeon's lounge alone, 152 00:07:59,271 --> 00:08:00,439 drinking coffee. 153 00:08:01,023 --> 00:08:03,817 And I once again asked him about that neck wound. 154 00:08:04,902 --> 00:08:10,199 And this time, he said, it was an entrance wound, 155 00:08:10,699 --> 00:08:13,368 unquestionably an entrance wound. 156 00:08:14,119 --> 00:08:19,208 I took that admission as a given in confidence. 157 00:08:19,291 --> 00:08:21,919 So it was sort of tacitly in confidence. 158 00:08:22,002 --> 00:08:23,670 And then, when he testified 159 00:08:23,754 --> 00:08:26,381 in front of the House Select Committee on Assassinations 160 00:08:26,465 --> 00:08:30,719 a year later, he once again said 161 00:08:30,802 --> 00:08:33,472 that it was consistent with an exit wound, 162 00:08:33,555 --> 00:08:35,599 which, of course, was required 163 00:08:35,682 --> 00:08:38,310 if the single bullet theory would hold water. 164 00:08:38,393 --> 00:08:41,688 One of the main reasons he changed his testimony 165 00:08:41,772 --> 00:08:44,983 and publicly agreed it was an exit wound is, 166 00:08:45,067 --> 00:08:48,737 a Secret Service agent put the pressure on him, 167 00:08:48,820 --> 00:08:51,281 and that person was Elmer Moore. 168 00:08:51,365 --> 00:08:53,408 He apparently was also in charge 169 00:08:53,492 --> 00:08:55,535 of getting the doctors at Parkland, 170 00:08:55,619 --> 00:08:59,206 in addition to Dr. Perry, to change their testimony 171 00:08:59,539 --> 00:09:01,667 and agree that there was no big hole 172 00:09:01,750 --> 00:09:03,252 in the back of Kennedy's head 173 00:09:03,335 --> 00:09:06,922 and that the bullet wound in the neck was an exit wound. 174 00:09:07,005 --> 00:09:10,133 In 1970, Elmer Moore was the head 175 00:09:10,217 --> 00:09:12,511 of the Secret Service office in Seattle, 176 00:09:13,553 --> 00:09:16,723 and a graduate student named Jim Gochenaur 177 00:09:17,432 --> 00:09:18,767 became friends with him. 178 00:09:19,851 --> 00:09:22,771 And he admitted to Gochenaur that he regretted 179 00:09:23,563 --> 00:09:25,357 putting pressure on Dr. Perry. 180 00:09:26,441 --> 00:09:28,110 -So I asked him directly. 181 00:09:28,193 --> 00:09:32,948 I said, Mr. Moore, did you pressure Dr. Perry? 182 00:09:34,199 --> 00:09:35,117 He stopped for a minute. 183 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:36,994 He says, well, I was ordered to do that. 184 00:09:37,452 --> 00:09:39,037 He expanded on it, 185 00:09:39,121 --> 00:09:42,666 and he said that Inspector Kelley had ordered him to 186 00:09:43,041 --> 00:09:44,835 talk with Perry and 187 00:09:44,918 --> 00:09:47,296 convince him that it could be either an exit 188 00:09:47,379 --> 00:09:48,755 or an entry wound-- 189 00:09:48,839 --> 00:09:50,882 not an entry wound. 190 00:09:51,383 --> 00:09:54,803 And I thought it was pretty interesting 191 00:09:54,886 --> 00:09:58,432 that he would admit to something that's pretty close to a felony. 192 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,103 [Goldberg] Charles Crenshaw, a third-year resident, 193 00:10:03,186 --> 00:10:06,023 was in the emergency room at Parkland that day. 194 00:10:06,565 --> 00:10:08,900 He too, later said in public 195 00:10:08,984 --> 00:10:11,153 that he felt the wounds in Kennedy 196 00:10:11,236 --> 00:10:13,071 originated from the front. 197 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:14,197 -From here 198 00:10:14,281 --> 00:10:15,657 -[interviewer] Right. -Through. 199 00:10:15,741 --> 00:10:17,534 [Gary Aguilar] Charles Crenshaw wrote a book, 200 00:10:17,617 --> 00:10:20,329 "Conspiracy of Silence" in the wake of the film "JFK," 201 00:10:20,412 --> 00:10:22,122 saying, look, I was at Parkland Hospital. 202 00:10:22,205 --> 00:10:25,250 I saw Kennedy, and was involved in the treatment. 203 00:10:25,334 --> 00:10:27,753 And Kennedy's wounds were not consistent with a shot 204 00:10:28,170 --> 00:10:30,339 from above and behind because he had a defect 205 00:10:30,422 --> 00:10:32,049 involving the right rear of his head. 206 00:10:32,132 --> 00:10:34,092 -I looked at the wound again. 207 00:10:34,551 --> 00:10:38,472 I wanted to know and remember this the rest of my life. 208 00:10:39,681 --> 00:10:40,891 And the rest of my life, 209 00:10:40,974 --> 00:10:43,560 I will always know he was shot from the front. 210 00:10:45,979 --> 00:10:48,607 [Goldberg] Arlen Specter was a Yale Law School graduate 211 00:10:48,690 --> 00:10:51,860 working in the Philadelphia District Attorney's office 212 00:10:51,943 --> 00:10:54,738 when he was asked to serve on the Warren Commission. 213 00:10:54,821 --> 00:10:57,949 Specter was placed in charge of medical evidence, 214 00:10:58,033 --> 00:11:00,535 and when he questioned Humes and Boswell 215 00:11:00,619 --> 00:11:04,373 before the Commission, they said two shots hit the president, 216 00:11:04,456 --> 00:11:07,459 one in the neck, one low in the rear skull, 217 00:11:07,542 --> 00:11:11,380 entirely supporting the Commission's final conclusions. 218 00:11:11,463 --> 00:11:13,298 However, when interviewed by 219 00:11:13,382 --> 00:11:15,675 the Assassination Records Review Board, 220 00:11:15,759 --> 00:11:19,179 Humes and Boswell admitted to meeting with Specter 221 00:11:19,262 --> 00:11:22,432 eight to ten times in advance of their testimony. 222 00:11:22,516 --> 00:11:24,309 And it is important to note 223 00:11:24,393 --> 00:11:28,063 that the wound drawings presented in the Warren Report 224 00:11:28,146 --> 00:11:31,274 were created in the days before that testimony 225 00:11:31,358 --> 00:11:34,694 and were not based on the autopsy photos. 226 00:11:34,778 --> 00:11:38,240 Instead, Harold Rydberg, the 23-year-old head 227 00:11:38,323 --> 00:11:41,410 of the Medical Illustration Department at Bethesda, 228 00:11:41,493 --> 00:11:45,914 was given verbal instructions by Humes and Boswell who said: 229 00:11:45,997 --> 00:11:47,833 "We'll tell you what to draw." 230 00:11:48,625 --> 00:11:50,127 -The Warren Commission heard testimony 231 00:11:50,210 --> 00:11:51,378 from a number of witnesses, 232 00:11:51,461 --> 00:11:53,380 including Parkland doctors, by the way, 233 00:11:53,463 --> 00:11:56,633 and including a Secret Service agent, Clint Hill, 234 00:11:56,716 --> 00:11:59,219 that the right rear quadrant of the head was missing. 235 00:11:59,970 --> 00:12:02,264 [Goldberg] Hill was the only Secret Service agent 236 00:12:02,347 --> 00:12:05,976 to run to the presidential limousine during the shooting. 237 00:12:06,059 --> 00:12:08,812 He later said that there was blood and brain tissue 238 00:12:08,895 --> 00:12:11,481 hurtling back over the trunk of the car. 239 00:12:11,565 --> 00:12:13,817 And as he approached the president, 240 00:12:13,900 --> 00:12:16,987 he saw a large wound in the rear of the skull, 241 00:12:17,070 --> 00:12:19,865 which he could see through with no brain there. 242 00:12:20,699 --> 00:12:22,951 -The two FBI agents at the autopsy, 243 00:12:23,702 --> 00:12:25,287 Frank O'Neill and James Sibert, 244 00:12:25,370 --> 00:12:28,331 they reported what they heard during the autopsy, 245 00:12:28,415 --> 00:12:31,418 what they heard the pathologists say-- 246 00:12:31,501 --> 00:12:33,044 specifically, Dr. Humes. 247 00:12:33,128 --> 00:12:37,757 They were interviewed by Arlen Specter in early 1964. 248 00:12:37,841 --> 00:12:41,011 He proceeded to write very unfavorable comments 249 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,598 about them in a summary memo for the record. 250 00:12:44,681 --> 00:12:46,183 We know with confidence 251 00:12:46,266 --> 00:12:47,893 why he didn't like what they had to say 252 00:12:47,976 --> 00:12:49,978 because they were providing evidence 253 00:12:50,061 --> 00:12:51,980 that the single bullet theory could not be true. 254 00:12:52,522 --> 00:12:53,565 [Goldberg] This was as far as 255 00:12:53,648 --> 00:12:55,400 the investigation would go. 256 00:12:55,484 --> 00:12:58,445 Neither Sibert nor O'Neill were asked to testify 257 00:12:58,528 --> 00:12:59,863 for the Warren Commission, 258 00:12:59,946 --> 00:13:02,240 and their written notes became classified. 259 00:13:02,866 --> 00:13:05,535 In 1997, their depositions were taken 260 00:13:05,619 --> 00:13:08,246 by the Assassination Records Review Board. 261 00:13:08,747 --> 00:13:10,415 -Both Sibert and O'Neill, 262 00:13:10,957 --> 00:13:13,919 were shown the photographs of the back of JFK's head, 263 00:13:14,002 --> 00:13:15,420 the autopsy photographs, 264 00:13:15,504 --> 00:13:17,172 that are the most controversial. 265 00:13:17,255 --> 00:13:18,715 And they both said that they didn't see 266 00:13:18,798 --> 00:13:20,258 anything like that at the autopsy. 267 00:13:20,717 --> 00:13:23,094 O'Neill had said "it looks like it's been doctored. 268 00:13:23,178 --> 00:13:24,387 I don't mean the photo's been doctored, 269 00:13:24,471 --> 00:13:26,431 it looks like the head has been put back together, 270 00:13:26,515 --> 00:13:28,099 you know, by embalmers and then photographed." 271 00:13:28,183 --> 00:13:29,768 That was what he said, under oath. 272 00:13:29,851 --> 00:13:33,897 Sibert did not remember drawing a diagram of the wound 273 00:13:33,980 --> 00:13:35,524 for the House committee, so he drew a new one 274 00:13:35,607 --> 00:13:36,775 for the Review Board. 275 00:13:36,858 --> 00:13:38,818 And it's one of our most important wound diagrams. 276 00:13:38,902 --> 00:13:41,238 And it shows what could only be an exit defect 277 00:13:41,321 --> 00:13:43,073 in the right rear of the skull. 278 00:13:48,828 --> 00:13:51,998 [Goldberg] In 1979, the House Select Committee report 279 00:13:52,082 --> 00:13:53,917 stated that 26 people 280 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,545 present at the autopsy in Bethesda 281 00:13:56,628 --> 00:13:59,839 all disagreed with the Parkland doctor's description 282 00:13:59,923 --> 00:14:01,466 of Kennedy's head wound. 283 00:14:01,883 --> 00:14:04,511 -When you went through the declassified affidavits 284 00:14:04,594 --> 00:14:06,596 that the House Select Committee prepared, 285 00:14:07,180 --> 00:14:09,307 what did you find about the alleged differences 286 00:14:09,391 --> 00:14:11,726 between the Parkland and Bethesda witnesses 287 00:14:11,810 --> 00:14:12,769 on this issue? 288 00:14:13,353 --> 00:14:15,939 -Not only were-- were we allowed to see their statements, 289 00:14:16,022 --> 00:14:18,650 but we were allowed to see the sketches 290 00:14:18,733 --> 00:14:21,111 where they had drawn the big hole 291 00:14:21,194 --> 00:14:22,529 on the back of the head. 292 00:14:23,029 --> 00:14:24,698 And this was totally opposite 293 00:14:25,282 --> 00:14:28,159 of what the House Select Committee had told us. 294 00:14:28,493 --> 00:14:31,037 -When the Assassination Records Review Board came along, 295 00:14:31,121 --> 00:14:32,622 out come those witness statements, 296 00:14:32,706 --> 00:14:33,957 out come the diagrams. 297 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:35,417 And lo and behold, it turns out 298 00:14:35,500 --> 00:14:38,378 that the witnesses at the autopsy 299 00:14:38,461 --> 00:14:40,589 all agreed with the doctors at Dallas 300 00:14:40,672 --> 00:14:42,674 that that defect involved the rear of the head. 301 00:14:42,757 --> 00:14:44,050 And the summary statement 302 00:14:44,384 --> 00:14:46,845 basically misrepresented that truth. 303 00:14:46,928 --> 00:14:49,055 They basically lied about what was there. 304 00:14:49,139 --> 00:14:50,807 [Goldberg] To make this even worse, 305 00:14:50,890 --> 00:14:54,311 if one looks at the official back of the head photo, 306 00:14:54,394 --> 00:14:56,646 there appears to be nothing missing. 307 00:14:56,730 --> 00:14:58,648 But there likely was something. 308 00:14:58,732 --> 00:15:00,233 This was a piece of bone 309 00:15:00,317 --> 00:15:02,360 that did not arrive in Washington 310 00:15:02,444 --> 00:15:05,155 until after the autopsy was over. 311 00:15:05,238 --> 00:15:08,491 And if it came from the back of Kennedy's skull, 312 00:15:08,575 --> 00:15:12,245 it created even more problems for that picture. 313 00:15:12,329 --> 00:15:15,582 -The Harper fragment was a piece of fresh skull bone 314 00:15:15,665 --> 00:15:18,084 that was found in Dealey Plaza, 315 00:15:18,168 --> 00:15:20,086 not on the day of the assassination, 316 00:15:20,170 --> 00:15:22,714 but later by Billy Harper. 317 00:15:22,797 --> 00:15:25,508 -And reached down and picked it up. 318 00:15:26,718 --> 00:15:30,263 And at that time knew that I had something 319 00:15:30,347 --> 00:15:33,516 that most likely was significant. 320 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:34,851 -It was found in a position 321 00:15:34,934 --> 00:15:37,979 where the FBI said that was to the left and rear 322 00:15:38,063 --> 00:15:41,024 of where Jack Kennedy was when he was assassinated. 323 00:15:41,107 --> 00:15:43,610 It was then taken in by this medical student 324 00:15:43,693 --> 00:15:46,404 in to his professors. 325 00:15:46,488 --> 00:15:48,323 And they looked at it and they said it looked like 326 00:15:48,406 --> 00:15:51,076 it was occipital bone, which is back here. 327 00:15:51,159 --> 00:15:52,994 [Goldberg] It measured approximately 328 00:15:53,078 --> 00:15:54,537 three by two inches 329 00:15:54,621 --> 00:15:56,706 and therefore would have fit neatly 330 00:15:56,790 --> 00:16:00,835 in the rear skull wound visualized by Dr. McClelland. 331 00:16:01,336 --> 00:16:04,798 This bone was given to the FBI on the 25th, 332 00:16:04,881 --> 00:16:08,718 after the autopsy report had been written by Dr. Humes. 333 00:16:08,968 --> 00:16:11,638 The FBI gave it to Kennedy's physician, 334 00:16:11,721 --> 00:16:15,684 Admiral Burkley, at which point it disappears. 335 00:16:15,767 --> 00:16:17,769 All we have today are the pictures 336 00:16:17,852 --> 00:16:19,771 taken of it in Dallas. 337 00:16:20,230 --> 00:16:22,774 This bit of evidence raises the question: 338 00:16:23,191 --> 00:16:26,986 If the rear of the skull in the official autopsy, 339 00:16:27,070 --> 00:16:29,447 was mostly filled in with bone fragments 340 00:16:29,531 --> 00:16:30,907 found in the limousine, 341 00:16:31,199 --> 00:16:33,743 where does the Harper fragment fit? 342 00:16:39,958 --> 00:16:43,294 -Never realized Kennedy was so dangerous to the establishment. 343 00:16:44,462 --> 00:16:45,505 Is that why? 344 00:16:46,589 --> 00:16:48,466 -Well, that's the real question, isn't it? 345 00:16:48,550 --> 00:16:49,551 Why? 346 00:16:49,634 --> 00:16:53,263 The "how" and the "who" is just scenery for the public. 347 00:16:53,722 --> 00:16:56,808 Oswald, Ruby, Cuba, the Mafia, 348 00:16:57,142 --> 00:16:59,227 keeps 'em guessing like some kind of polygon. 349 00:16:59,310 --> 00:17:01,229 And prevents them from asking the most important question. 350 00:17:01,312 --> 00:17:02,522 Why? 351 00:17:02,605 --> 00:17:04,023 Why was Kennedy killed? 352 00:17:04,107 --> 00:17:05,275 Who benefited? 353 00:17:06,067 --> 00:17:07,652 Who has the power to cover it up? 354 00:17:08,570 --> 00:17:09,571 Who? 355 00:17:11,990 --> 00:17:14,993 [typewriter clinks] 356 00:17:22,625 --> 00:17:23,918 [Donald Sutherland] At age 34, 357 00:17:24,002 --> 00:17:25,420 Congressman John F. Kennedy 358 00:17:25,503 --> 00:17:27,338 realized that if he were going to challenge 359 00:17:27,422 --> 00:17:29,883 for a seat in the Senate, he needed to broaden 360 00:17:29,966 --> 00:17:32,093 his knowledge of foreign affairs. 361 00:17:32,177 --> 00:17:36,055 So he decided, in 1951, to take a seven-week journey 362 00:17:36,139 --> 00:17:37,724 to the Middle East and Asia, 363 00:17:37,807 --> 00:17:40,435 accompanied by his sister Patricia 364 00:17:40,518 --> 00:17:42,103 and his brother Robert. 365 00:17:57,869 --> 00:18:00,830 During their stop in Vietnam, Kennedy planned to meet 366 00:18:00,914 --> 00:18:04,584 with Edmund Gullion. Gullion was a career diplomat 367 00:18:04,667 --> 00:18:07,962 who had once helped Kennedy write a foreign policy speech. 368 00:18:08,421 --> 00:18:11,508 Kennedy and his brother made it a point to seek him out, 369 00:18:11,591 --> 00:18:15,011 meeting at a rooftop restaurant in Saigon. 370 00:18:15,094 --> 00:18:17,806 -And it was one of the most important experiences 371 00:18:17,889 --> 00:18:20,892 in his pre-presidential career. 372 00:18:20,975 --> 00:18:22,143 [cannons booming] 373 00:18:22,227 --> 00:18:25,522 A war was going on-- France versus the Viet Minh. 374 00:18:25,605 --> 00:18:28,316 Eighty percent of their military material 375 00:18:28,399 --> 00:18:30,109 was coming from the United States. 376 00:18:30,568 --> 00:18:32,821 [Sutherland] And because of this, Kennedy wanted to see 377 00:18:32,904 --> 00:18:36,825 what the status of this brutal, colonial war really was. 378 00:18:38,576 --> 00:18:40,370 [Philip Muehlenbeck] When he met with the French generals, 379 00:18:40,453 --> 00:18:41,746 that's when he formed the impression 380 00:18:41,830 --> 00:18:44,999 that the war was going well, because that was, you know, 381 00:18:45,083 --> 00:18:46,876 what the French generals were telling him. 382 00:18:48,044 --> 00:18:51,214 His opinion started to change when he met Edmund Gullion. 383 00:18:51,714 --> 00:18:53,842 He had told Kennedy that the French 384 00:18:53,925 --> 00:18:56,803 were actually losing the war, and that the war was unwinnable. 385 00:18:56,886 --> 00:19:00,139 In fact, he said that if the US were to replace the French, 386 00:19:00,223 --> 00:19:02,350 that the US would also lose the war. 387 00:19:02,851 --> 00:19:05,562 -Because Gullion made JFK understand 388 00:19:07,021 --> 00:19:09,190 that nothing short of independence 389 00:19:09,274 --> 00:19:11,442 would ever win in Vietnam. 390 00:19:11,860 --> 00:19:14,988 And if independence had to come at the hands of the communists, 391 00:19:15,071 --> 00:19:16,948 they would go with the communists 392 00:19:17,031 --> 00:19:20,910 rather than stay a colony of any independent force. 393 00:19:21,661 --> 00:19:23,371 [Sutherland] Gullion's warning that America 394 00:19:23,454 --> 00:19:26,124 was backing an imminent French defeat 395 00:19:26,207 --> 00:19:29,002 caused Kennedy to begin a six-year crusade 396 00:19:29,085 --> 00:19:31,629 to formulate an alternative foreign policy, 397 00:19:32,130 --> 00:19:34,299 one opposed to the confrontational 398 00:19:34,382 --> 00:19:35,592 with-us-or-against-us 399 00:19:35,675 --> 00:19:38,011 advocated by President Harry Truman. 400 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,014 Truman had broken away from his predecessor 401 00:19:41,097 --> 00:19:45,310 Franklin Roosevelt's strategy of cooperation with the USSR, 402 00:19:45,393 --> 00:19:48,396 creating a worldwide Cold War face-off, 403 00:19:48,813 --> 00:19:51,190 later amplified by Dwight Eisenhower 404 00:19:51,274 --> 00:19:54,444 and his Secretary of State, John Foster Dulles. 405 00:19:55,236 --> 00:19:57,906 -Can you describe the 1953 letter 406 00:19:57,989 --> 00:20:00,575 that JFK sent to Dulles about Indochina? 407 00:20:01,034 --> 00:20:03,912 -He sent a letter to John Foster Dulles, 408 00:20:03,995 --> 00:20:08,666 who was then Secretary of State, asking him 47 questions 409 00:20:08,750 --> 00:20:12,337 about American support for France in Vietnam. 410 00:20:12,962 --> 00:20:15,381 One of those questions was, 411 00:20:15,882 --> 00:20:19,344 "What specific evidence is there, Mr. Secretary, 412 00:20:19,427 --> 00:20:22,096 that France is winning the war?" 413 00:20:22,180 --> 00:20:25,099 [Sutherland] Foster Dulles' eventual answer to this letter 414 00:20:25,183 --> 00:20:27,810 was codenamed Operation Vulture. 415 00:20:28,102 --> 00:20:30,730 Vice President Richard Nixon was the main lobbyist 416 00:20:30,813 --> 00:20:33,524 for the air operation in Congress. 417 00:20:33,608 --> 00:20:35,860 Planned as a massive air armada, 418 00:20:35,944 --> 00:20:38,905 it featured scores of bombers and fighter planes 419 00:20:38,988 --> 00:20:41,199 designed to save the French position 420 00:20:41,282 --> 00:20:43,034 at what would become the fatal siege 421 00:20:43,117 --> 00:20:46,496 of Dien Bien Phu in the spring of 1954. 422 00:20:46,871 --> 00:20:49,415 Vulture included the possibility of dropping 423 00:20:49,499 --> 00:20:51,501 two or three atomic bombs. 424 00:20:52,085 --> 00:20:53,294 [Aaron Good] The US leadership-- 425 00:20:53,378 --> 00:20:54,796 John Foster Dulles in particular-- 426 00:20:55,380 --> 00:20:57,590 took the initiative to offer the French 427 00:20:57,674 --> 00:20:59,258 the use of the nuclear weapons. 428 00:20:59,342 --> 00:21:00,843 And even the French themselves said 429 00:21:00,927 --> 00:21:02,762 this is going too far for us. 430 00:21:02,845 --> 00:21:06,182 This is going too far, and we can't be a party to this. 431 00:21:06,724 --> 00:21:08,351 [Sutherland] Kennedy spoke on the Senate floor 432 00:21:08,434 --> 00:21:10,311 in strong opposition to Vulture. 433 00:21:10,728 --> 00:21:12,730 [John F. Kennedy] No amount of American military assistance 434 00:21:12,814 --> 00:21:16,109 in Indochina can conquer an enemy which is everywhere 435 00:21:16,734 --> 00:21:18,444 and at the same time nowhere; 436 00:21:19,404 --> 00:21:21,280 an enemy of the people which has the sympathy 437 00:21:21,364 --> 00:21:23,157 and covert support of the people. 438 00:21:23,825 --> 00:21:25,785 [Sutherland] When Eisenhower could not get the British 439 00:21:25,868 --> 00:21:28,621 to sign on to the project, he rejected it. 440 00:21:29,497 --> 00:21:32,083 And as Ambassador Gullion predicted, 441 00:21:32,417 --> 00:21:35,837 France lost its colonial war in Indochina. 442 00:21:40,425 --> 00:21:41,592 Kennedy gave his support 443 00:21:41,676 --> 00:21:45,388 to the liberal presidential candidate Adlai Stevenson 444 00:21:45,471 --> 00:21:47,181 and began giving speeches 445 00:21:47,265 --> 00:21:50,977 confronting the shared Cold War orthodoxies of both parties. 446 00:21:52,186 --> 00:21:53,521 [John F. Kennedy] The determination of people 447 00:21:53,604 --> 00:21:55,606 to control their national destinies. 448 00:21:55,690 --> 00:21:57,984 In my opinion, the tragic failure 449 00:21:58,067 --> 00:22:00,445 of both Republican and Democratic administrations 450 00:22:00,528 --> 00:22:03,114 to comprehend the nature of this revolution 451 00:22:03,406 --> 00:22:05,366 has reaped a bitter harvest today. 452 00:22:05,825 --> 00:22:07,785 And it is by rights and by necessity 453 00:22:07,869 --> 00:22:10,455 a major foreign policy campaign issue 454 00:22:10,788 --> 00:22:12,957 that has nothing to do with anti-communism. 455 00:22:13,541 --> 00:22:15,626 [Sutherland] Even for the liberal Stevenson, 456 00:22:15,710 --> 00:22:16,836 that was too much. 457 00:22:17,295 --> 00:22:20,590 His office wired Kennedy and specifically requested 458 00:22:20,673 --> 00:22:23,551 that he make no more foreign policy statements 459 00:22:23,634 --> 00:22:26,304 in any way associated with the campaign. 460 00:22:26,387 --> 00:22:28,681 The next year, in 1957, 461 00:22:29,140 --> 00:22:31,267 Kennedy found the perfect opportunity 462 00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:35,354 to assault Foster Dulles, Nixon and Eisenhower 463 00:22:35,438 --> 00:22:40,151 and to establish an alternative American foreign policy. 464 00:22:41,194 --> 00:22:47,158 -Algeria became the last stand for France in its imperium. 465 00:22:47,533 --> 00:22:51,746 There was about a million two hundred thousand French citizens 466 00:22:52,121 --> 00:22:55,083 who were resident in North Africa generally, 467 00:22:55,166 --> 00:22:56,751 but in Algeria specifically, 468 00:22:56,834 --> 00:22:58,086 called Pieds-Noirs. 469 00:22:58,544 --> 00:23:01,130 And they were completely behind the war effort, 470 00:23:01,672 --> 00:23:04,884 and they were threatening French politicians. 471 00:23:04,967 --> 00:23:08,096 And what had happened in the French Officer Corps 472 00:23:08,304 --> 00:23:10,932 that was very, very critical and very dangerous 473 00:23:11,140 --> 00:23:14,268 was that after the defeat in Vietnam, 474 00:23:14,477 --> 00:23:18,606 a secret organization called the OAS, 475 00:23:18,689 --> 00:23:20,983 the Organization de la Secrete, 476 00:23:21,067 --> 00:23:23,361 threatened the government in Paris 477 00:23:23,444 --> 00:23:27,156 that if there was any withdrawal or any negotiations 478 00:23:27,657 --> 00:23:29,700 with the Algerian nationalists, 479 00:23:30,034 --> 00:23:32,411 that that government would be overthrown. 480 00:23:33,079 --> 00:23:34,872 [Sutherland] The Algerian conflict, 481 00:23:34,956 --> 00:23:38,376 fought guerrilla-style, devolved into terror, 482 00:23:38,459 --> 00:23:41,254 torture and atrocities on both sides. 483 00:23:43,631 --> 00:23:45,842 France escalated the war-- 484 00:23:45,925 --> 00:23:48,511 a point counterpoint of terror act 485 00:23:48,594 --> 00:23:50,388 followed by retaliation. 486 00:23:53,099 --> 00:23:55,351 -Can you tell us how did support in Algeria 487 00:23:55,434 --> 00:23:56,519 differ from Vietnam? 488 00:23:56,811 --> 00:24:00,022 -In Algeria, it was support in a 489 00:24:00,106 --> 00:24:01,524 in a political sense. 490 00:24:01,607 --> 00:24:03,484 We supplied them through NATO 491 00:24:03,568 --> 00:24:07,238 with some amount of weaponry and aircraft, 492 00:24:07,613 --> 00:24:10,992 but not to the extent that we had in Vietnam. 493 00:24:11,075 --> 00:24:15,204 It was a war that was so violent and so lethal 494 00:24:15,288 --> 00:24:17,165 that the Americans stood aside. 495 00:24:17,498 --> 00:24:20,710 They supported France, but they didn't want to be involved. 496 00:24:21,210 --> 00:24:22,962 [Sutherland] It was against this backdrop 497 00:24:23,045 --> 00:24:25,214 that Kennedy chose to express his differences 498 00:24:25,298 --> 00:24:28,259 with the monster that Dulles and Eisenhower had created, 499 00:24:28,634 --> 00:24:31,053 one now staggering out of control. 500 00:24:31,762 --> 00:24:33,806 He attacked both Washington and Paris 501 00:24:34,056 --> 00:24:35,892 for not seeing in Algeria, 502 00:24:36,475 --> 00:24:41,022 a reprise of the 1954 French collapse in Vietnam. 503 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,651 -I am introducing a resolution which I believe outlines 504 00:24:45,735 --> 00:24:48,988 the best hope for peace for the settlement in Algeria, 505 00:24:49,780 --> 00:24:52,366 to achieve a solution which will recognize 506 00:24:52,783 --> 00:24:55,161 the independent personality of Algeria 507 00:24:55,870 --> 00:24:58,039 and establish the basis for a settlement 508 00:24:58,122 --> 00:25:01,667 interdependent with France and the neighboring nations. 509 00:25:01,751 --> 00:25:04,378 [Robert Rakove] Very few people, none with his prominence, 510 00:25:04,795 --> 00:25:06,672 had been willing to say what he said, 511 00:25:06,756 --> 00:25:10,218 which was to challenge a kind of default Euro-centrism 512 00:25:10,301 --> 00:25:11,928 in American foreign policy, 513 00:25:12,011 --> 00:25:14,805 to challenge the kind of "Europe First" outlook, 514 00:25:15,139 --> 00:25:18,017 especially toward conflicts in the colonial world. 515 00:25:18,100 --> 00:25:19,101 And Kennedy could even say, 516 00:25:19,185 --> 00:25:21,103 look, this isn't even doing France any favors. 517 00:25:21,646 --> 00:25:26,442 -That speech earned him the vitriol, 518 00:25:27,068 --> 00:25:29,487 not only of Republicans like Nelson Rockefeller, 519 00:25:29,570 --> 00:25:32,031 Barry Goldwater, Ronald Reagan, et cetera, 520 00:25:32,782 --> 00:25:35,868 but also Democrats like Adlai Stevenson, 521 00:25:36,369 --> 00:25:39,080 because they saw that colonial empire 522 00:25:39,163 --> 00:25:40,706 as the only thing that was holding 523 00:25:40,790 --> 00:25:42,875 the European economy together. 524 00:25:42,959 --> 00:25:45,419 And Europe was the bulwark against communism. 525 00:25:45,586 --> 00:25:49,382 We had to support their colonial aspirations 526 00:25:49,674 --> 00:25:51,467 and ambitions in Africa. 527 00:25:52,343 --> 00:25:55,263 My uncle said, "No, we shouldn't be doing that. 528 00:25:55,638 --> 00:25:58,599 That is going to, in the long run, weaken us. 529 00:25:58,683 --> 00:26:01,811 And in any event, it's against every American ideal. 530 00:26:02,603 --> 00:26:04,563 We should be supporting democracy 531 00:26:04,647 --> 00:26:06,565 wherever it pops up in the world." 532 00:26:06,649 --> 00:26:08,943 [Richard Mahoney] Well, Joe Kennedy, his father, 533 00:26:09,235 --> 00:26:13,572 who had a very significant role in his son's career 534 00:26:13,656 --> 00:26:17,994 at all times, took him aside and surprisingly said to him, 535 00:26:18,077 --> 00:26:20,246 one day, people are going to see 536 00:26:20,329 --> 00:26:22,581 that you really knew what you were talking about. 537 00:26:22,999 --> 00:26:25,418 And in fact, that's exactly what happened. 538 00:26:25,835 --> 00:26:29,046 The fourth republic fell. De Gaulle came in 539 00:26:29,130 --> 00:26:32,216 and he immediately initiated talks 540 00:26:32,300 --> 00:26:34,343 with the Algerian nationalists. 541 00:26:37,305 --> 00:26:39,598 [Sutherland] In the archipelago nation of Indonesia, 542 00:26:40,057 --> 00:26:43,185 President Sukarno had fought a long battle for independence 543 00:26:43,269 --> 00:26:44,979 from the Dutch colonists. 544 00:26:45,354 --> 00:26:47,064 A self-styled Nationalist, 545 00:26:47,148 --> 00:26:50,526 he balanced the country's communist party, the PKI, 546 00:26:50,609 --> 00:26:52,820 with his military, attempting to create 547 00:26:52,903 --> 00:26:55,489 what he termed "guided democracy." 548 00:26:56,073 --> 00:26:58,743 Partly as a reaction to the CIA-backed overthrow 549 00:26:58,826 --> 00:27:01,704 of democratic governments in Guatemala and Iran, 550 00:27:01,787 --> 00:27:05,624 Sukarno and other Third World leaders arranged a conference 551 00:27:05,708 --> 00:27:08,753 in Bandung, Indonesia in 1955, 552 00:27:09,462 --> 00:27:13,424 beginning what became known as the Non-Aligned Movement. 553 00:27:13,507 --> 00:27:15,843 [Oliver Stone] And how did Kennedy's approach to the 554 00:27:15,926 --> 00:27:19,055 Non-Aligned Movement differ from Dulles'? 555 00:27:19,138 --> 00:27:21,182 -John Foster Dulles had said that 556 00:27:21,265 --> 00:27:23,642 the policy of neutrality was immoral. 557 00:27:24,268 --> 00:27:26,062 John Foster Dulles and Allen Dulles 558 00:27:26,145 --> 00:27:27,688 came from a Christian background, 559 00:27:27,772 --> 00:27:31,150 and they felt, you know, what they had to say 560 00:27:31,233 --> 00:27:32,985 was good enough for the rest of the world, 561 00:27:33,069 --> 00:27:34,612 that they knew more than the president. 562 00:27:34,695 --> 00:27:36,739 There were things they didn't tell Eisenhower 563 00:27:36,822 --> 00:27:39,033 that they were doing under his administration. 564 00:27:39,700 --> 00:27:43,621 [Sutherland] In 1958, Indonesian military dissidents 565 00:27:43,704 --> 00:27:47,666 rebelled against Sukarno and at Eisenhower's direction, 566 00:27:48,042 --> 00:27:51,462 the CIA initiated plans to assist them 567 00:27:51,545 --> 00:27:53,547 in overthrowing their president. 568 00:27:54,340 --> 00:27:55,466 [Bradley Simpson] The United States, 569 00:27:55,549 --> 00:27:58,177 under John Foster Dulles and his brother Allen Dulles 570 00:27:58,260 --> 00:27:59,512 who was the head of the CIA 571 00:27:59,595 --> 00:28:03,974 saw support for the rebellion as a means of weakening Sukarno, 572 00:28:04,058 --> 00:28:06,185 potentially breaking up the archipelago, 573 00:28:06,268 --> 00:28:08,938 and weakening the Indonesian Communist Party. 574 00:28:09,021 --> 00:28:10,481 And so, for more than a year, 575 00:28:10,564 --> 00:28:12,900 the United States carried out what, up to that point, 576 00:28:12,983 --> 00:28:15,444 was the largest and most destructive 577 00:28:15,528 --> 00:28:18,280 covert operation of the Asian Cold War 578 00:28:18,364 --> 00:28:21,534 in which thousands of US troops were involved, 579 00:28:22,076 --> 00:28:25,371 in which millions of dollars in weapons and supplies 580 00:28:25,454 --> 00:28:27,873 were given to the regional rebellions, 581 00:28:27,957 --> 00:28:30,459 and in which thousands of people were killed. 582 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,295 [Sutherland] A CIA pilot, Alan Pope, 583 00:28:33,879 --> 00:28:35,673 was shot down during the operation, 584 00:28:35,756 --> 00:28:39,677 exposing US involvement, and the coup attempt failed. 585 00:28:40,803 --> 00:28:43,055 [Robert Rakove] Kennedy, looking at the broad scope 586 00:28:43,139 --> 00:28:45,349 of American history, American foreign policy 587 00:28:45,433 --> 00:28:46,892 was fundamentally neutral. 588 00:28:47,685 --> 00:28:49,103 World War I was the great exception, 589 00:28:49,186 --> 00:28:51,605 until, of course, the Second World War. 590 00:28:52,898 --> 00:28:54,358 He saw nothing wrong with it. 591 00:28:54,442 --> 00:28:57,236 He could also draw from the experiences he'd had 592 00:28:57,319 --> 00:28:59,655 traveling in the Middle East in the early 1950s. 593 00:28:59,738 --> 00:29:01,449 He could draw from the example of Ireland 594 00:29:01,532 --> 00:29:03,367 during the Second World War, which had achieved 595 00:29:03,451 --> 00:29:05,911 a kind of difficult and controversial neutrality. 596 00:29:06,454 --> 00:29:08,706 [Sutherland] Kennedy's interest in self-determination 597 00:29:08,789 --> 00:29:11,792 for the Third World led him to become chairman 598 00:29:11,876 --> 00:29:16,964 of the US Senate African Affairs Subcommittee in 1958. 599 00:29:17,339 --> 00:29:20,968 -We had a delegation from Kenya come to our house on the Cape. 600 00:29:21,051 --> 00:29:22,928 And the head of that delegation 601 00:29:23,012 --> 00:29:24,180 was a man named Tom Mboya, 602 00:29:24,263 --> 00:29:26,724 who was a great Labor leader in Africa. 603 00:29:26,807 --> 00:29:30,019 Around 1959, the British said to Kenya, 604 00:29:30,102 --> 00:29:32,480 "We're going to leave, we'll give you five years 605 00:29:32,563 --> 00:29:34,940 to figure out how to rule this country." 606 00:29:35,608 --> 00:29:37,776 Mboya looked around and said, 607 00:29:37,860 --> 00:29:40,738 "There's not a single black child in this country 608 00:29:40,821 --> 00:29:42,072 who has a college degree." 609 00:29:42,490 --> 00:29:45,659 So he wrote letters to every college in America. 610 00:29:46,076 --> 00:29:48,162 And he got a hundred of them, including Harvard, 611 00:29:49,038 --> 00:29:50,623 to commit to give a scholarship 612 00:29:50,706 --> 00:29:52,166 to one Kenyan child. 613 00:29:52,249 --> 00:29:54,752 And he would choose the smartest kids in the country. 614 00:29:55,503 --> 00:29:58,255 My uncle was so impressed by him 615 00:29:59,173 --> 00:30:01,592 that he wrote him a $100,000 check 616 00:30:01,675 --> 00:30:03,302 to bring these kids over. 617 00:30:03,385 --> 00:30:06,805 In 2004, the Democratic convention 618 00:30:06,889 --> 00:30:10,809 was in Boston, and I was asked to speak on the environment. 619 00:30:10,893 --> 00:30:15,731 Right after I spoke, it was a young first-term, 620 00:30:15,814 --> 00:30:18,817 first-year Democratic senator from Illinois 621 00:30:18,901 --> 00:30:22,196 who nobody had ever heard of, who gave a speech 622 00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:24,907 that blew the roof off the convention. 623 00:30:24,990 --> 00:30:26,534 -The hope of a millworker's son 624 00:30:26,617 --> 00:30:28,327 who dares to defy to odds; 625 00:30:28,410 --> 00:30:31,205 the hope of a skinny kid with a funny name 626 00:30:31,288 --> 00:30:33,749 who believes that America has a place for him too. 627 00:30:33,832 --> 00:30:36,418 [cheers] 628 00:30:37,419 --> 00:30:40,089 [Robert F. Kennedy Jr.] And I asked him about his life, 629 00:30:40,172 --> 00:30:41,090 I knew nothing about him. 630 00:30:41,173 --> 00:30:43,050 And he said that his father was Kenyan. 631 00:30:43,133 --> 00:30:46,762 And I said, "Oh, have you ever heard of Tom Mboya?" 632 00:30:47,304 --> 00:30:48,556 And he said to me, 633 00:30:48,639 --> 00:30:51,141 "Tom Mboya is the reason I'm in this country" 634 00:30:51,225 --> 00:30:53,143 because his father was the first kid 635 00:30:53,227 --> 00:30:54,645 brought over on the airlift. 636 00:31:00,484 --> 00:31:01,944 [Sutherland] Kennedy was now the man to see 637 00:31:02,027 --> 00:31:04,029 for visiting African dignitaries. 638 00:31:04,446 --> 00:31:07,783 During the 1960 campaign against Richard Nixon, 639 00:31:07,866 --> 00:31:11,370 JFK mentioned Africa nearly 500 times. 640 00:31:11,745 --> 00:31:12,913 The night of the election, 641 00:31:12,997 --> 00:31:15,541 the Algerian rebels listened by radio 642 00:31:15,624 --> 00:31:17,376 from their hillside camps, 643 00:31:17,459 --> 00:31:20,879 hoping their American friend would win the seesaw battle. 644 00:31:22,089 --> 00:31:25,884 It came as a shock to many, including Eisenhower and Nixon, 645 00:31:26,385 --> 00:31:28,721 when Kennedy won a narrow victory. 646 00:31:28,804 --> 00:31:31,807 [โ™ชโ™ชโ™ช] 647 00:31:36,395 --> 00:31:39,398 [hum of traffic] 648 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,028 [โ™ชโ™ชโ™ช] 649 00:31:44,445 --> 00:31:48,365 [Goldberg] The JFK case was such a massive confusion 650 00:31:48,449 --> 00:31:50,117 that the Warren Commission version 651 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,994 of the firing sequence 652 00:31:52,077 --> 00:31:55,914 differed from both the FBI's and the CIA's. 653 00:31:56,290 --> 00:31:59,918 Although it never specified the order of the shots, 654 00:32:00,210 --> 00:32:04,089 the Warren Report had one bullet going through Kennedy 655 00:32:04,173 --> 00:32:05,924 and Governor Connally. 656 00:32:06,008 --> 00:32:07,468 Another missing the car, 657 00:32:07,551 --> 00:32:11,221 hitting a bystander on Commerce Street, James Tague. 658 00:32:11,305 --> 00:32:14,475 And the final shot hitting Kennedy in the head. 659 00:32:14,892 --> 00:32:16,352 The FBI concluded 660 00:32:16,435 --> 00:32:19,355 that all three bullets struck inside the car, 661 00:32:19,438 --> 00:32:22,441 two hitting Kennedy, and one hitting Connally. 662 00:32:23,484 --> 00:32:25,402 The CIA analysis said 663 00:32:25,486 --> 00:32:29,573 that the first shot did not come from the sixth-floor window, 664 00:32:29,657 --> 00:32:32,910 and further, that two shooters were involved. 665 00:32:33,661 --> 00:32:35,788 Their photographic analysis 666 00:32:35,871 --> 00:32:39,667 based on the Zapruder film was closely held, 667 00:32:39,750 --> 00:32:44,338 records showing that it only went to Director John McCone. 668 00:32:44,838 --> 00:32:48,092 Like the FBI analysis, the Warren Commission 669 00:32:48,175 --> 00:32:51,261 either never received it, or chose to ignore it. 670 00:32:51,970 --> 00:32:54,973 -The Warren Commission put itself in a straitjacket. 671 00:32:55,057 --> 00:32:58,352 They could not possibly allow more than three shots 672 00:32:58,435 --> 00:33:00,396 because four shots or more 673 00:33:00,479 --> 00:33:02,564 would have clearly indicated conspiracy 674 00:33:02,648 --> 00:33:03,941 and they were not going there. 675 00:33:04,233 --> 00:33:05,526 -When Oswald, 676 00:33:05,609 --> 00:33:07,986 under the Warren Commission's conclusion, 677 00:33:08,070 --> 00:33:11,281 had the best opportunity, it's a lineup, 678 00:33:11,365 --> 00:33:14,618 and as the cars approached on Houston Street, 679 00:33:15,411 --> 00:33:17,913 then getting closer and closer, 680 00:33:18,622 --> 00:33:22,084 and there you are, Mr. Oswald. 681 00:33:22,167 --> 00:33:24,253 It's coming right at you. 682 00:33:24,336 --> 00:33:26,880 But you wait until the cars turn 683 00:33:27,715 --> 00:33:29,258 and they're going down Elm Street 684 00:33:29,341 --> 00:33:30,801 on a diagonal downward. 685 00:33:30,884 --> 00:33:31,802 And the vision is 686 00:33:31,885 --> 00:33:34,221 partially blocked by foliage on the trees. 687 00:33:34,304 --> 00:33:35,639 And that's when you shoot. 688 00:33:35,723 --> 00:33:37,766 -[echoing gunshot] -So somehow the first shot, 689 00:33:38,350 --> 00:33:40,853 which he should have been better prepared for, he missed. 690 00:33:40,936 --> 00:33:45,274 And then the second shot is the one that ultimately, 691 00:33:45,357 --> 00:33:48,736 they said was the hero of the single bullet theory 692 00:33:48,819 --> 00:33:50,362 that went into Kennedy's back 693 00:33:50,446 --> 00:33:53,115 and produced the seven wounds in him and Connally. 694 00:33:53,198 --> 00:33:55,868 And then the third shot hit, according to them, 695 00:33:55,951 --> 00:33:57,411 Kennedy in the head. 696 00:33:57,911 --> 00:34:00,414 [reporter] It appears as though something has happened. 697 00:34:00,497 --> 00:34:02,916 -As they began to reflect upon this 698 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:07,713 into March, April of 1964, they were faced with 699 00:34:07,796 --> 00:34:11,258 a seemingly impossible physical incongruity. 700 00:34:11,341 --> 00:34:13,761 Because they had a problem 701 00:34:13,844 --> 00:34:16,430 with the chronology of the Zapruder film, 702 00:34:16,513 --> 00:34:20,100 which showed that Connally is hit about 1.5 seconds 703 00:34:20,184 --> 00:34:21,518 after Kennedy is hit. 704 00:34:21,602 --> 00:34:24,021 Well, the problem was the best marksman 705 00:34:24,104 --> 00:34:26,440 they could find not worrying about re-aiming 706 00:34:26,523 --> 00:34:28,025 and repositioning and a moving target, 707 00:34:28,108 --> 00:34:30,360 2.3 seconds for this piece of junk, 708 00:34:30,444 --> 00:34:32,237 the most inferior weapon of the genre, 709 00:34:32,321 --> 00:34:33,572 the Mannlicher Carcano. 710 00:34:33,655 --> 00:34:36,617 Now 2.3 seconds versus 1.5 seconds. 711 00:34:36,700 --> 00:34:38,827 Arlen Specter, junior legal counsel, 712 00:34:38,911 --> 00:34:40,496 later to become district attorney, 713 00:34:40,579 --> 00:34:42,623 and then U.S. senator from Pennsylvania, 714 00:34:42,706 --> 00:34:45,501 he is the one that gave birth to the single bullet theory. 715 00:34:45,584 --> 00:34:46,502 [camera clicks] 716 00:34:46,585 --> 00:34:49,838 Ah ha! What if one bullet made all seven wounds? 717 00:34:49,922 --> 00:34:52,466 What if one bullet went into Kennedy's back and-- 718 00:34:52,549 --> 00:34:54,218 and came out his neck, 719 00:34:54,301 --> 00:34:57,054 and then went into Connolly's back through his chest, 720 00:34:57,137 --> 00:34:58,096 out the front of his chest, 721 00:34:58,180 --> 00:34:59,598 into the back of his right wrist, 722 00:34:59,681 --> 00:35:02,142 out the front of his right wrist and into his left thigh? 723 00:35:02,434 --> 00:35:05,646 And that is the single bullet theory, 724 00:35:05,729 --> 00:35:07,022 which Mark Lane, I think, 725 00:35:07,105 --> 00:35:10,901 was the first one to dub as "the magic bullet theory." 726 00:35:11,151 --> 00:35:14,238 CE 399 was the magic bullet, 727 00:35:14,696 --> 00:35:17,407 and all government investigations so far 728 00:35:17,908 --> 00:35:19,535 have treated that bullet 729 00:35:19,618 --> 00:35:23,121 as absolutely foundational to this case; 730 00:35:23,205 --> 00:35:26,208 never doubted that it was involved in the case, 731 00:35:26,416 --> 00:35:29,294 and never really looked at the provenance of the bullet. 732 00:35:30,128 --> 00:35:32,589 [Goldberg] The other problem is the lack of damage 733 00:35:32,673 --> 00:35:35,467 to the bullet after going through two men, 734 00:35:35,843 --> 00:35:39,346 smashing two bones, and making seven wounds. 735 00:35:39,429 --> 00:35:42,391 Dr. Joseph Dolce was a much-honored 736 00:35:42,474 --> 00:35:45,561 battlefield surgeon during World War II. 737 00:35:45,644 --> 00:35:47,187 He worked for the Warren Commission. 738 00:35:47,896 --> 00:35:50,399 -And so they gave us the original rifle, 739 00:35:50,482 --> 00:35:55,028 the Mannlicher Carcano, plus 100 bullets, 6.5 millimeters. 740 00:35:55,863 --> 00:35:59,116 And we went and we shot the cadaver wrists. 741 00:35:59,700 --> 00:36:01,660 And in every instance, 742 00:36:02,661 --> 00:36:06,123 the front or the tip of the bullet was smashed. 743 00:36:06,206 --> 00:36:09,710 Under no circumstances do I feel that this bullet 744 00:36:09,793 --> 00:36:12,087 could hit the wrist and still not be deformed. 745 00:36:12,546 --> 00:36:13,881 [Goldberg] Dolce came to believe 746 00:36:13,964 --> 00:36:16,550 that two bullets had struck Connally. 747 00:36:16,633 --> 00:36:17,968 Since Arlen Specter 748 00:36:18,051 --> 00:36:21,013 pre-screened the medical witnesses for the Commission, 749 00:36:21,096 --> 00:36:23,807 Dolce's name is not in the Warren Report, 750 00:36:24,182 --> 00:36:26,894 and his testimony is not in the volumes. 751 00:36:28,186 --> 00:36:30,439 In September of 1978, 752 00:36:30,522 --> 00:36:33,650 the House Select Committee on Assassinations 753 00:36:33,734 --> 00:36:38,071 tried again to link CE 399 to the case 754 00:36:38,155 --> 00:36:40,741 through the work of Dr. Vincent Guinn, 755 00:36:40,824 --> 00:36:44,202 and a test called Neutron Activation Analysis, 756 00:36:44,286 --> 00:36:46,997 which attempted to show that all fragments 757 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:51,877 and CE 399 came from only two bullets. 758 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,253 [David Mantik] Robert Blakey, 759 00:36:53,337 --> 00:36:56,673 who was in charge of the investigation for the House, 760 00:36:56,757 --> 00:37:00,010 claimed that their work with Neutron Activation Analysis 761 00:37:00,093 --> 00:37:03,513 was the linchpin of the case against Oswald. 762 00:37:03,931 --> 00:37:05,724 [Goldberg] Partly because of the renewed interest 763 00:37:05,807 --> 00:37:10,228 in the JFK case, this test came under severe criticism. 764 00:37:10,312 --> 00:37:12,606 -People who had deep experience 765 00:37:12,689 --> 00:37:14,316 in Neutron Activation Analysis 766 00:37:14,399 --> 00:37:16,401 at Lawrence Livermore Laboratory 767 00:37:16,485 --> 00:37:17,903 re-looked at that 768 00:37:17,986 --> 00:37:21,031 and said that those fragments that-that came out 769 00:37:21,114 --> 00:37:23,033 might not have even come from Mannlicher Carcano bullets, 770 00:37:23,116 --> 00:37:25,494 and they could have come from any one of five bullets, 771 00:37:25,577 --> 00:37:26,620 not the two. 772 00:37:26,703 --> 00:37:28,455 So that has been completely debunked. 773 00:37:28,705 --> 00:37:30,874 So much so that Neutron Activation Analysis, 774 00:37:30,958 --> 00:37:33,752 which the FBI used to use in prosecutions, 775 00:37:33,835 --> 00:37:35,712 was given up more than ten years ago. 776 00:37:35,837 --> 00:37:36,922 They don't do that anymore 777 00:37:37,005 --> 00:37:38,507 because they know that it's junk science. 778 00:37:38,715 --> 00:37:41,093 [Goldberg] Without this test, there was no proof 779 00:37:41,176 --> 00:37:45,722 that CE 399 and the fragments in Governor Connally's wrist 780 00:37:45,806 --> 00:37:47,265 are from the same bullet. 781 00:37:47,349 --> 00:37:49,059 And even Connally refused 782 00:37:49,142 --> 00:37:51,353 to accept the single bullet theory. 783 00:37:54,398 --> 00:37:55,357 -Did the Warren Commission 784 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,694 do experiments with the alleged Oswald rifle on skulls? 785 00:38:00,112 --> 00:38:03,615 [Gary Aguilar] They did human skull experiments in 1964, 786 00:38:03,699 --> 00:38:05,325 at Aberdeen Proving Ground. 787 00:38:05,409 --> 00:38:07,828 They filled human skulls with human-equivalent material, 788 00:38:08,036 --> 00:38:10,330 and they were testified to under oath 789 00:38:10,414 --> 00:38:12,332 by Larry Sturdivan, the House Select Committee. 790 00:38:12,416 --> 00:38:15,919 He says, "As you can see, every skull, all ten of them, 791 00:38:16,003 --> 00:38:17,546 moved away from the rifle." 792 00:38:17,629 --> 00:38:19,506 [echoing gunshot] 793 00:38:19,589 --> 00:38:21,717 -The trajectory from the sixth floor 794 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,677 of the Texas School Book Depository, 795 00:38:24,177 --> 00:38:26,138 Z-312 or Z-313, 796 00:38:26,221 --> 00:38:28,140 the trajectory would have resulted in 797 00:38:28,223 --> 00:38:30,934 a blow-out through the face, and this was confirmed 798 00:38:31,018 --> 00:38:33,645 even by the government's own data. 799 00:38:33,729 --> 00:38:35,480 [Goldberg] And photos from the autopsy 800 00:38:35,564 --> 00:38:38,525 clearly show Kennedy's face to be intact. 801 00:38:38,942 --> 00:38:41,820 And the Warren Commission was aware of something else 802 00:38:41,903 --> 00:38:43,822 that was wrong with their evidence. 803 00:38:43,905 --> 00:38:45,824 -All kinds of ballistic tests 804 00:38:45,907 --> 00:38:48,243 show that the bullets, in fact, came from that rifle. 805 00:38:48,326 --> 00:38:49,494 That was his rifle. 806 00:38:49,578 --> 00:38:51,038 You took a picture of him with it. 807 00:38:51,413 --> 00:38:53,123 -No, no, no. -[interviewer] His palm prints, 808 00:38:53,206 --> 00:38:55,500 and fingerprints were all over the School Book Depository. 809 00:38:55,584 --> 00:38:57,335 [Marina Porter] You have been misinformed. 810 00:38:57,419 --> 00:39:01,173 The ballistics test did not prove anything at all. 811 00:39:01,757 --> 00:39:03,967 [reporter] This is the weapon that was used, 812 00:39:04,051 --> 00:39:07,095 a rather well-worn military rifle. 813 00:39:07,429 --> 00:39:08,847 [Goldberg] Is this really true, 814 00:39:08,930 --> 00:39:11,558 or is it a myth that has been allowed to assume 815 00:39:11,641 --> 00:39:15,645 the status of accepted fact since few have challenged it? 816 00:39:16,104 --> 00:39:18,273 [Oliver Stone] Is the rifle in evidence today 817 00:39:18,356 --> 00:39:19,858 the same rifle the commission said 818 00:39:19,941 --> 00:39:21,902 Oswald ordered through the mail? 819 00:39:22,027 --> 00:39:25,238 -The rifle that Lee Oswald allegedly ordered 820 00:39:25,322 --> 00:39:27,657 under an alias of Alex Hidell 821 00:39:27,741 --> 00:39:29,910 was obtained through Klein's Sporting Goods store 822 00:39:29,993 --> 00:39:31,495 in Chicago as a mail order. 823 00:39:31,578 --> 00:39:34,039 Got it out of American Rifleman magazine. 824 00:39:34,122 --> 00:39:37,793 He wrote on the coupon he wanted a 36-inch model, 825 00:39:37,876 --> 00:39:43,006 Mannlicher Carcano, 6.5 millimeter, for $19.95. 826 00:39:43,090 --> 00:39:45,300 Robert Frazier was one of the examiners, 827 00:39:45,383 --> 00:39:47,552 he was a firearms expert for the FBI, 828 00:39:47,636 --> 00:39:49,971 and he testified that he did measure it, 829 00:39:50,055 --> 00:39:52,933 and the measurement was 40.2 inches in length, 830 00:39:53,016 --> 00:39:54,601 from barrel to stock. 831 00:39:54,684 --> 00:39:57,562 There's a 4.2 inch difference in the one he ordered, 832 00:39:57,646 --> 00:40:00,065 versus what they found in the Book Depository. 833 00:40:00,524 --> 00:40:02,484 [Goldberg] Klein's may have indeed delivered 834 00:40:02,567 --> 00:40:05,821 a different Mannlicher Carcano model to Oswald, 835 00:40:06,321 --> 00:40:09,324 but there are other anomalies to this story. 836 00:40:09,407 --> 00:40:11,576 The model that Oswald ordered, 837 00:40:11,660 --> 00:40:13,954 showed these strap attachment points 838 00:40:14,037 --> 00:40:16,540 on the bottom of the barrel and stock. 839 00:40:16,623 --> 00:40:17,749 [Brian Edwards] In the photograph 840 00:40:17,833 --> 00:40:18,875 is Lieutenant Carl Day 841 00:40:18,959 --> 00:40:21,086 with the Dallas Police Department bringing a rifle 842 00:40:21,169 --> 00:40:22,587 out of the Book Depository. 843 00:40:22,671 --> 00:40:25,132 One of the straps at the back of the gun 844 00:40:25,215 --> 00:40:26,716 is on the left side of the stock 845 00:40:27,050 --> 00:40:28,510 embedded in the stock. 846 00:40:29,219 --> 00:40:31,179 That's clearly not the rifle that was ordered, 847 00:40:31,263 --> 00:40:33,890 or least appears in the Klein's Sporting goods store. 848 00:40:34,391 --> 00:40:35,433 [Goldberg] The straps shown 849 00:40:35,517 --> 00:40:37,435 in the so-called backyard photos 850 00:40:37,519 --> 00:40:40,605 are on the bottom and not on the side of the stock. 851 00:40:41,690 --> 00:40:44,484 -Marina Oswald took backyard photographs 852 00:40:44,693 --> 00:40:48,572 of Lee Oswald holding a rifle and a pistol on his hip. 853 00:40:48,947 --> 00:40:52,617 Um, and in that first photograph that she took three of, 854 00:40:52,868 --> 00:40:57,289 Commission Exhibit 133A and 133B, 855 00:40:58,498 --> 00:41:03,086 show a ring on the ring finger of the right hand. 856 00:41:03,712 --> 00:41:07,465 133C, the ring appears on the left hand. 857 00:41:07,924 --> 00:41:10,510 In effect, the Dallas Police showed Lee Oswald 858 00:41:10,594 --> 00:41:12,888 one of the pictures while he was still in custody. 859 00:41:12,971 --> 00:41:14,806 He said, "That's my face, but I don't remember 860 00:41:14,890 --> 00:41:16,808 ever having that picture taken of me." 861 00:41:16,892 --> 00:41:18,643 [Goldberg] There's also a question 862 00:41:18,727 --> 00:41:21,855 of how Oswald received the rifle. 863 00:41:21,938 --> 00:41:23,857 [Brian Edwards] If the rifle was sent from Klein's 864 00:41:23,940 --> 00:41:25,066 to the post office box 865 00:41:25,150 --> 00:41:27,110 rented under the name Lee Harvey Oswald, 866 00:41:27,485 --> 00:41:30,906 using the alias of A.J. Hidell on the coupon, 867 00:41:31,573 --> 00:41:33,700 it would have been sent back immediately 868 00:41:33,783 --> 00:41:36,494 because Oswald's name was the only one 869 00:41:36,578 --> 00:41:38,079 on that post office box. 870 00:41:38,163 --> 00:41:39,873 He was only one authorized to receive mail. 871 00:41:39,956 --> 00:41:42,751 Marina didn't even have, her name wasn't even on there. 872 00:41:42,834 --> 00:41:44,878 So that rifle was addressed to a person 873 00:41:44,961 --> 00:41:46,046 who didn't have the authority 874 00:41:46,129 --> 00:41:48,590 to have any mail received at that box. 875 00:41:49,049 --> 00:41:50,383 It should have been sent back. 876 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,262 [Goldberg] But after all of these questions are asked, 877 00:41:54,346 --> 00:41:56,765 the underlying mystery remains: 878 00:41:56,973 --> 00:42:00,769 Why would anyone use a rifle in an assassination 879 00:42:00,852 --> 00:42:03,063 knowing there was a paper trail 880 00:42:03,146 --> 00:42:05,273 that would lead right back to them? 881 00:42:06,441 --> 00:42:09,361 -Was there a palm print found on the rifle? 882 00:42:09,444 --> 00:42:12,614 -The foremost fingerprint expert the FBI had, 883 00:42:12,697 --> 00:42:15,325 Sebastian Latona, uh, took that rifle 884 00:42:15,408 --> 00:42:17,452 and attempted to lift prints off of the rifle, 885 00:42:17,535 --> 00:42:19,329 the stock and/or the barrel. 886 00:42:19,412 --> 00:42:21,373 Uh, he testified to the Warren Commission 887 00:42:21,831 --> 00:42:25,460 that he found no usable prints anywhere on that rifle, 888 00:42:26,211 --> 00:42:27,921 on the metal or the stock. 889 00:42:28,004 --> 00:42:30,840 But yet, Lieutenant Day in Dallas, 890 00:42:30,924 --> 00:42:33,093 before the rifle went to Washington, 891 00:42:33,176 --> 00:42:34,886 said he found a partial palm print 892 00:42:34,970 --> 00:42:36,513 on the trigger guard on the left side 893 00:42:36,596 --> 00:42:40,767 and a partial print underneath the stock on the barrel. 894 00:42:40,850 --> 00:42:42,894 But Sebastian Latona said there was no evidence 895 00:42:42,978 --> 00:42:44,437 that a lift had even been attempted. 896 00:42:44,771 --> 00:42:45,855 [Oliver Stone] No partials at all? 897 00:42:45,939 --> 00:42:47,816 -Nothing that he could use in court. 898 00:42:47,899 --> 00:42:50,110 There has to be eight points of identification. 899 00:42:50,193 --> 00:42:52,112 He found nothing that would match that. 900 00:42:53,822 --> 00:42:55,407 [Tom Alyea] I was able to enter this building, 901 00:42:55,490 --> 00:42:56,533 along with the Secret Service, 902 00:42:56,616 --> 00:42:57,951 and shoot exclusive footage 903 00:42:58,034 --> 00:42:59,327 of the finding of the assassin's gun 904 00:42:59,411 --> 00:43:00,954 and dusting it for fingerprints. 905 00:43:01,705 --> 00:43:03,832 [Debra Conway] Tom Alyea was the first reporter 906 00:43:03,915 --> 00:43:06,001 that made it up to the sixth floor. 907 00:43:06,418 --> 00:43:09,379 I would say that he was a friend to the Dallas police 908 00:43:09,462 --> 00:43:11,131 because he worked as a photographer 909 00:43:11,214 --> 00:43:13,258 on many crime scenes, and he probably knew 910 00:43:13,341 --> 00:43:15,385 most of these officers that were there. 911 00:43:15,468 --> 00:43:19,431 They found the shells that were ejected from the rifle, 912 00:43:19,514 --> 00:43:22,225 and they found some, looked like someone's lunch. 913 00:43:22,309 --> 00:43:24,269 [Brian Edwards] Alyea described the location of 914 00:43:24,352 --> 00:43:25,437 these three shell casings, 915 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,148 were almost in a line, facing the same direction 916 00:43:28,231 --> 00:43:31,067 within four or five inches of the front of the building. 917 00:43:31,151 --> 00:43:32,610 -When you eject them from a rifle, 918 00:43:32,694 --> 00:43:33,820 they're not going to land like that. 919 00:43:33,903 --> 00:43:35,322 They're gonna be everywhere. 920 00:43:35,405 --> 00:43:37,115 Captain Fritz was brought over, 921 00:43:37,198 --> 00:43:39,576 and he picked up these three shell casings 922 00:43:39,784 --> 00:43:42,037 and held them out in his hand, flat. 923 00:43:42,203 --> 00:43:45,123 Alyea took motion picture film of it. 924 00:43:45,623 --> 00:43:46,666 [Goldberg] This was before 925 00:43:46,750 --> 00:43:48,293 Dallas police photographer, 926 00:43:48,376 --> 00:43:49,711 Robert Studebaker, 927 00:43:49,794 --> 00:43:52,380 took pictures of the shells on the floor. 928 00:43:52,672 --> 00:43:55,675 So clearly, that was a staged photo. 929 00:43:56,343 --> 00:43:57,552 The X's indicate 930 00:43:57,635 --> 00:44:00,847 where Tom Alyea recalls the original placement. 931 00:44:01,139 --> 00:44:04,476 The Warren Commission never interviewed Tom Alyea, 932 00:44:04,559 --> 00:44:05,935 and they never questioned 933 00:44:06,019 --> 00:44:08,396 if the crime scene had been altered. 934 00:44:09,689 --> 00:44:11,441 -How important is chain of custody 935 00:44:11,733 --> 00:44:13,068 in a legal proceeding? 936 00:44:13,276 --> 00:44:15,362 -Chain of custody basically refers to 937 00:44:15,445 --> 00:44:16,738 the integrity of evidence. 938 00:44:16,821 --> 00:44:20,325 If I, uh, pick up a piece of evidence and I transfer it 939 00:44:20,408 --> 00:44:22,577 to somebody else for holding or processing, 940 00:44:22,911 --> 00:44:24,996 my name is the first name on this list. 941 00:44:25,205 --> 00:44:26,831 The second person who touches this 942 00:44:26,915 --> 00:44:28,792 and takes possession of it is next. 943 00:44:28,875 --> 00:44:31,544 And if you don't do that, there's no way to prove 944 00:44:31,628 --> 00:44:33,505 that the evidence you collected on Day 1 945 00:44:33,588 --> 00:44:36,508 is the same one you get on Day 25 when you go to court. 946 00:44:36,591 --> 00:44:37,842 -Can you walk us through 947 00:44:37,926 --> 00:44:40,178 the magic bullet's chain of custody, 948 00:44:40,637 --> 00:44:44,057 from the Parkland employees to the Secret Service 949 00:44:44,140 --> 00:44:45,308 to the FBI? 950 00:44:45,892 --> 00:44:48,520 -Well, the magic bullet was supposedly found 951 00:44:48,603 --> 00:44:50,522 on a stretcher at Parkland Hospital, 952 00:44:50,605 --> 00:44:52,649 and it went through several hands, 953 00:44:52,732 --> 00:44:55,360 uh, before it got to the Secret Service. 954 00:44:55,944 --> 00:44:58,613 Richard Johnsen was the first Secret Service agent 955 00:44:58,696 --> 00:45:01,408 to handle it, and he carried it back to Washington, D.C. 956 00:45:02,534 --> 00:45:04,786 When he got back to Washington, D.C., 957 00:45:05,078 --> 00:45:07,539 he gave it to the chief of the Secret Service, 958 00:45:07,622 --> 00:45:09,207 who was James Rowley. 959 00:45:10,834 --> 00:45:12,419 And at the White House, 960 00:45:12,502 --> 00:45:16,089 James Rowley gave it to Elmer Lee Todd 961 00:45:16,423 --> 00:45:19,175 and Todd then took it to the FBI lab 962 00:45:19,259 --> 00:45:20,885 and gave it to Robert Frazier. 963 00:45:21,636 --> 00:45:25,432 We have interesting information produced by John Hunt, 964 00:45:25,515 --> 00:45:28,101 a private citizen who went to the archives 965 00:45:28,184 --> 00:45:30,061 on four or five occasions 966 00:45:30,145 --> 00:45:33,440 to track down the story about the magic bullet, 967 00:45:33,523 --> 00:45:36,109 and what he found was truly astounding. 968 00:45:36,234 --> 00:45:39,362 -He practically moved into the National Archives 969 00:45:39,446 --> 00:45:40,989 in Washington, D.C. 970 00:45:41,072 --> 00:45:43,074 They allowed him to set up a desk 971 00:45:43,158 --> 00:45:46,286 with a computer and his own scanner. 972 00:45:46,369 --> 00:45:49,831 And he also did something different. 973 00:45:49,914 --> 00:45:53,251 He didn't interview policemen and FBI people, 974 00:45:53,334 --> 00:45:56,254 and he wasn't swayed by their excuses. 975 00:45:56,337 --> 00:45:59,799 He went straight to: This is what you told, 976 00:45:59,883 --> 00:46:01,468 and you signed your name. 977 00:46:01,759 --> 00:46:03,595 [Goldberg] Working with FBI 978 00:46:03,678 --> 00:46:05,263 and Warren Commission documents, 979 00:46:05,346 --> 00:46:08,183 John Hunt asked the most basic question: 980 00:46:08,766 --> 00:46:12,020 Was CE 399, in evidence, 981 00:46:12,103 --> 00:46:15,732 the same bullet that was found on the stretcher? 982 00:46:15,815 --> 00:46:20,361 -At 7:30 at night, this is the day of the assassination, 983 00:46:20,445 --> 00:46:22,280 November 22nd, 1963, 984 00:46:22,906 --> 00:46:27,076 a bullet appears in the record, and 985 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,621 it's signed for by Robert Frazier, 986 00:46:29,704 --> 00:46:32,540 who is the main investigator at the FBI lab. 987 00:46:33,625 --> 00:46:37,045 And it's not just one document. There are multiple documents 988 00:46:37,128 --> 00:46:40,798 that indicate that Frazier signed for a bullet 989 00:46:40,882 --> 00:46:42,759 at 7:30 that night. 990 00:46:43,968 --> 00:46:45,762 Now, here's where things get interesting. 991 00:46:46,304 --> 00:46:50,225 Elmer Lee Todd received the bullet at the White House 992 00:46:50,308 --> 00:46:53,770 from chief of the Secret Service, James Rowley. 993 00:46:54,979 --> 00:46:59,192 And Todd documents, very clearly in writing, 994 00:46:59,275 --> 00:47:02,946 that he got this bullet at 8:50 p.m. 995 00:47:03,780 --> 00:47:05,156 How is that possible? 996 00:47:05,240 --> 00:47:08,201 How can Robert Frazier receive the bullet in the lab 997 00:47:08,284 --> 00:47:11,538 at 7:30 from Elmer Lee Todd 998 00:47:11,621 --> 00:47:14,791 when Todd didn't get the bullet until 8:50? 999 00:47:14,874 --> 00:47:17,752 -You would think that they would have handled it, 1000 00:47:18,253 --> 00:47:20,964 you know, like it would've been gold going to the bank. 1001 00:47:21,381 --> 00:47:22,757 There it is in the record. 1002 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,009 Someone is lying about when they got the bullet. 1003 00:47:26,261 --> 00:47:27,512 [David Mantik] It gets worse, though. 1004 00:47:27,595 --> 00:47:29,889 Todd initialed that bullet. 1005 00:47:29,973 --> 00:47:32,559 -The one that he got at 8:50, 1006 00:47:33,268 --> 00:47:36,020 and everyone else who touched the bullet 1007 00:47:36,104 --> 00:47:39,023 after that initialed it too, including Robert Frazier. 1008 00:47:39,107 --> 00:47:41,776 I went to the archives to look at this bullet. 1009 00:47:41,859 --> 00:47:44,070 And specifically what we want to know is 1010 00:47:44,153 --> 00:47:47,115 do we see Todd's initials on this bullet? 1011 00:47:47,198 --> 00:47:49,576 He said he initialed the bullet. 1012 00:47:49,659 --> 00:47:51,744 It is not there. 1013 00:47:51,828 --> 00:47:54,956 Todd's initials are not on the magic bullet. 1014 00:47:56,165 --> 00:47:58,126 -I was very interested in finding out 1015 00:47:58,209 --> 00:48:00,670 what the Review Board would show us about this. 1016 00:48:00,753 --> 00:48:04,132 So we began scouring their evidence, 1017 00:48:04,215 --> 00:48:05,800 and we found out something very interesting. 1018 00:48:05,883 --> 00:48:07,969 We found out that the Warren Report 1019 00:48:08,052 --> 00:48:10,430 had, from the FBI, a report saying that the guys 1020 00:48:10,513 --> 00:48:12,348 that found the bullet later identified that 1021 00:48:12,432 --> 00:48:13,641 as the bullet they'd seen. 1022 00:48:13,725 --> 00:48:15,518 The internal record didn't show that at all. 1023 00:48:15,602 --> 00:48:17,437 The internal record said this bullet 1024 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,314 didn't look like that bullet at all. 1025 00:48:19,397 --> 00:48:21,107 But the FBI reported to the Warren Commission 1026 00:48:21,190 --> 00:48:22,609 that it did, it lied. 1027 00:48:22,692 --> 00:48:24,319 We then talked to the FBI agent 1028 00:48:24,402 --> 00:48:26,863 that was supposed to have carried that bullet around. 1029 00:48:26,946 --> 00:48:28,323 His name was Bardwell Odum. 1030 00:48:28,406 --> 00:48:29,991 I got Bardwell Odum on the phone. 1031 00:48:30,074 --> 00:48:31,534 I sent him the documents 1032 00:48:31,618 --> 00:48:33,161 that said that he had done this. 1033 00:48:33,244 --> 00:48:34,912 He said, "I never had that bullet. 1034 00:48:34,996 --> 00:48:36,831 I never showed any bullet to anyone. 1035 00:48:36,914 --> 00:48:38,791 If I'd had the bullet, there'd be a 302. 1036 00:48:38,875 --> 00:48:40,710 I would have filed a report, particularly in that era, 1037 00:48:40,793 --> 00:48:43,171 everybody was very uptight about getting everything right." 1038 00:48:43,254 --> 00:48:45,423 So we scoured for 302 reports. 1039 00:48:45,506 --> 00:48:47,216 His name appears nowhere in the record. 1040 00:48:47,300 --> 00:48:49,135 This is just something that the FBI invented. 1041 00:48:49,218 --> 00:48:53,556 -In 1966, Josiah Thompson, who authored 1042 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,560 "Six Seconds in Dallas," interviewed O.P. Wright, 1043 00:48:58,019 --> 00:49:00,688 who was head of maintenance at Parkland Hospital, 1044 00:49:00,772 --> 00:49:02,482 and who had handled the bullet. 1045 00:49:02,565 --> 00:49:04,734 He showed him a photograph of the magic bullet, 1046 00:49:04,817 --> 00:49:06,778 which has a rounded tip. 1047 00:49:07,487 --> 00:49:10,031 And O.P. Wright said, "No, it wasn't like that." 1048 00:49:10,114 --> 00:49:11,866 -Wright, who had worked as a policeman, 1049 00:49:11,949 --> 00:49:13,618 he knew bullets, and he said, "No, no, 1050 00:49:13,701 --> 00:49:16,579 the bullet that we found at Parkland had a pointed tip." 1051 00:49:16,663 --> 00:49:18,039 And he just pulled one out of his drawer 1052 00:49:18,122 --> 00:49:19,624 that had a pointed tip and showed it. 1053 00:49:19,707 --> 00:49:21,584 And it looks nothing like 399. 1054 00:49:22,168 --> 00:49:24,671 -It's conceivable that some mysterious bullet 1055 00:49:24,754 --> 00:49:26,714 showed up from who knows where. 1056 00:49:27,215 --> 00:49:28,883 Todd did not initial it, 1057 00:49:28,966 --> 00:49:32,428 and it ended up in the FBI lab as the magic bullet. 1058 00:49:32,970 --> 00:49:37,350 But then we have the second bullet that arrives at 8:50. 1059 00:49:37,433 --> 00:49:39,352 Is this possibly the pointed bullet 1060 00:49:39,435 --> 00:49:42,814 that was seen by O.P. Wright in Dallas, 1061 00:49:42,897 --> 00:49:44,524 and that then disappeared? 1062 00:49:44,607 --> 00:49:46,526 We don't have any idea where it is today. 1063 00:49:46,943 --> 00:49:50,113 That scenario would fit the known facts. 1064 00:49:50,196 --> 00:49:53,199 -So it appears that a different bullet 1065 00:49:53,282 --> 00:49:56,786 was found on that stretcher than 399. 1066 00:49:56,869 --> 00:50:00,289 399 shows up after it's been to the FBI lab. 1067 00:50:00,373 --> 00:50:04,460 And one can only surmise that--that somewhere in the FBI, 1068 00:50:04,544 --> 00:50:07,338 they realized they had to close the loop on Oswald's guilt. 1069 00:50:07,422 --> 00:50:08,798 And so they just switched it out, 1070 00:50:08,881 --> 00:50:11,968 because none of the four people, 1071 00:50:12,051 --> 00:50:13,720 either the guys at Parkland 1072 00:50:13,803 --> 00:50:14,971 or the two Secret Service agents, 1073 00:50:15,054 --> 00:50:16,514 could identify the bullet. 1074 00:50:16,597 --> 00:50:18,766 The guy who is supposed to have gotten confirmation 1075 00:50:18,850 --> 00:50:21,644 that they did identify the bullet said he never did it. 1076 00:50:21,728 --> 00:50:23,271 And the record supports that. 1077 00:50:23,354 --> 00:50:26,441 So there is--there's good reason to be very suspicious 1078 00:50:26,524 --> 00:50:27,775 about the magic bullet. 1079 00:50:28,151 --> 00:50:33,156 -The chain of custody doesn't start from the laboratory; 1080 00:50:33,573 --> 00:50:35,199 it starts from the crime scene. 1081 00:50:36,367 --> 00:50:38,953 Each piece of evidence should be photographed, 1082 00:50:39,036 --> 00:50:43,124 documented, and preserved, properly. 1083 00:50:44,167 --> 00:50:47,170 From the scene, evidence is collected, 1084 00:50:47,545 --> 00:50:49,046 sent to the laboratory. 1085 00:50:49,589 --> 00:50:51,924 We have to keep the chain of custody 1086 00:50:52,633 --> 00:50:54,177 when they enter the lab. 1087 00:50:54,343 --> 00:50:55,595 Who exam? 1088 00:50:56,763 --> 00:50:59,140 Who did the further analysis? 1089 00:50:59,515 --> 00:51:04,896 And each step have to maintain until submit to the court. 1090 00:51:05,605 --> 00:51:07,148 If this chain broke, 1091 00:51:08,441 --> 00:51:11,360 then my evidence become inadmissible. 1092 00:51:20,495 --> 00:51:23,790 [Goldberg] Sunday, November 24th, 1963, 1093 00:51:24,290 --> 00:51:27,877 Lee Harvey Oswald has been in detention for two days 1094 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,879 after he was caught in a movie theater 1095 00:51:29,962 --> 00:51:32,465 just an hour after the assassination. 1096 00:51:32,924 --> 00:51:35,009 He's being questioned for long hours, 1097 00:51:35,092 --> 00:51:37,303 but there is no stenographer present, 1098 00:51:37,386 --> 00:51:41,098 and the police say there was no tape recorder in the room. 1099 00:51:43,184 --> 00:51:45,102 -I'd like some legal representation. 1100 00:51:45,186 --> 00:51:48,564 These police officers have not allowed me to--to have any. 1101 00:51:48,856 --> 00:51:50,650 [Goldberg] He's confessed to nothing. 1102 00:51:50,858 --> 00:51:54,654 He has, in fact, denied any guilt to his only audience, 1103 00:51:55,238 --> 00:51:58,157 the press and the spectators in the hallways. 1104 00:52:07,458 --> 00:52:09,293 [Goldberg] Lee Harvey Oswald, 1105 00:52:09,377 --> 00:52:10,795 while he was alive, 1106 00:52:10,878 --> 00:52:14,423 in the strongest terms, denied he committed the crime. 1107 00:52:14,507 --> 00:52:15,883 [reporter] Did you kill the President? 1108 00:52:15,967 --> 00:52:17,760 -No, I have not been charged with that. 1109 00:52:17,844 --> 00:52:20,054 In fact, nobody has said that to me yet. 1110 00:52:20,513 --> 00:52:23,349 First thing I heard about was when the newspaper reporters 1111 00:52:23,432 --> 00:52:26,936 in the hall, uh, asked me that question. 1112 00:52:27,436 --> 00:52:28,813 [Goldberg] It would be hard to say 1113 00:52:28,896 --> 00:52:31,440 that he shot Kennedy in some cause, 1114 00:52:31,774 --> 00:52:34,277 as a politically-inspired shooter would proclaim. 1115 00:52:34,402 --> 00:52:35,820 [reporter] How long have you been in residence? 1116 00:52:35,903 --> 00:52:37,029 [Lee Oswald] No, they're taking me in 1117 00:52:37,113 --> 00:52:39,240 because of the fact that I lived in the Soviet Union. 1118 00:52:39,323 --> 00:52:40,283 [reporter] What time did you leave-- 1119 00:52:40,366 --> 00:52:41,284 [Lee Oswald] I'm just a patsy. 1120 00:52:41,367 --> 00:52:42,660 [reporter] Did you shoot the President? 1121 00:52:43,536 --> 00:52:45,204 [Goldberg] He's about to be transferred 1122 00:52:45,288 --> 00:52:46,455 to the county jail. 1123 00:52:46,789 --> 00:52:49,208 The FBI has called the Dallas police 1124 00:52:49,292 --> 00:52:51,210 on both Saturday and Sunday, 1125 00:52:51,294 --> 00:52:52,670 warning them of threats 1126 00:52:52,753 --> 00:52:55,631 to kill the alleged assassin of President Kennedy. 1127 00:52:56,173 --> 00:52:58,050 The police have decided to proceed 1128 00:52:58,134 --> 00:52:59,635 with the transfer anyway. 1129 00:53:00,177 --> 00:53:03,222 As you watch, listen for the two car horns. 1130 00:53:03,806 --> 00:53:05,850 One as Oswald emerges, 1131 00:53:05,933 --> 00:53:09,896 and the other the moment before Jack Ruby fires. 1132 00:53:10,646 --> 00:53:11,856 [long honk of car horn] 1133 00:53:14,650 --> 00:53:15,735 [short car honk] 1134 00:53:15,818 --> 00:53:17,945 [gunshot] [Lee Oswald screams] 1135 00:53:18,154 --> 00:53:21,198 [reporter] He's been shot. He's been shot. Lee Oswald 1136 00:53:21,282 --> 00:53:22,575 [Goldberg] It was the shocking 1137 00:53:22,658 --> 00:53:25,161 live murder of Lee Harvey Oswald 1138 00:53:25,244 --> 00:53:28,664 that terminated the Dallas police as investigators. 1139 00:53:31,125 --> 00:53:34,337 J. Edgar Hoover wrote a memo to the newly sworn-in 1140 00:53:34,420 --> 00:53:36,964 President Johnson that evening, saying, 1141 00:53:37,048 --> 00:53:40,801 "The thing I am concerned about is having something issued 1142 00:53:40,885 --> 00:53:42,845 so we can convince the public 1143 00:53:42,929 --> 00:53:45,640 that Oswald is the real assassin." 1144 00:53:46,140 --> 00:53:48,351 The day before, he had told Johnson that 1145 00:53:48,434 --> 00:53:50,770 "the case, as it stands now, 1146 00:53:50,853 --> 00:53:54,106 isn't strong enough to be able to get a conviction." 1147 00:53:54,607 --> 00:53:55,608 The next day, 1148 00:53:55,691 --> 00:53:58,402 Deputy Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach 1149 00:53:58,486 --> 00:54:00,947 wrote a memo to the White House saying, 1150 00:54:01,030 --> 00:54:02,907 "The public must be satisfied 1151 00:54:02,990 --> 00:54:05,785 that Oswald did not have confederates 1152 00:54:05,868 --> 00:54:09,163 who were still at large, and that the evidence was such 1153 00:54:09,246 --> 00:54:12,041 that he would have been convicted at trial. 1154 00:54:12,333 --> 00:54:15,586 We need something to head off public speculation 1155 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,632 or congressional hearings of the wrong sort." 1156 00:54:19,924 --> 00:54:21,342 With those two memos, 1157 00:54:21,425 --> 00:54:25,429 the FBI became the main investigatory arm 1158 00:54:25,513 --> 00:54:26,722 in the JFK case. 1159 00:54:27,181 --> 00:54:29,600 There was never any serious discussion 1160 00:54:29,684 --> 00:54:32,603 that independent investigators were needed. 1161 00:54:32,687 --> 00:54:35,272 The idea in Washington now 1162 00:54:35,356 --> 00:54:38,150 became to contain the crime to Oswald, 1163 00:54:38,234 --> 00:54:40,903 therefore, cutting off any connections 1164 00:54:40,987 --> 00:54:44,448 to a wider Russia-Cuba-communist conspiracy 1165 00:54:44,532 --> 00:54:47,201 which could provoke the threat of atomic war. 1166 00:54:48,786 --> 00:54:50,496 The day after he was murdered, 1167 00:54:50,579 --> 00:54:53,082 the New York Times pronounced Oswald 1168 00:54:53,165 --> 00:54:55,668 as the killer of President Kennedy. 1169 00:54:56,085 --> 00:54:58,004 The Warren Commission concluded 1170 00:54:58,087 --> 00:55:00,881 that Ruby shot Oswald acting alone. 1171 00:55:01,257 --> 00:55:03,884 It was not premeditated or planned, 1172 00:55:03,968 --> 00:55:06,887 and Ruby had no help entering the building. 1173 00:55:24,363 --> 00:55:26,282 [Goldberg] Two months after winning his appeal 1174 00:55:26,365 --> 00:55:29,368 and being granted a new trial outside of Dallas, 1175 00:55:29,452 --> 00:55:32,872 Jack Ruby was found riddled with cancer in his prison cell. 1176 00:55:33,622 --> 00:55:35,624 He was placed in the hospital, 1177 00:55:35,708 --> 00:55:38,627 and one month before his new trial was to begin, 1178 00:55:38,711 --> 00:55:39,712 he died. 1179 00:55:40,421 --> 00:55:42,131 The Warren Commission never exposed 1180 00:55:42,214 --> 00:55:45,468 Ruby's connections to the Mafia, the FBI, 1181 00:55:45,551 --> 00:55:47,762 or with gunrunning and gambling figures 1182 00:55:47,845 --> 00:55:49,930 in Miami and Cuba. 1183 00:55:50,765 --> 00:55:52,433 [Brian Edwards] On other parts of the-- 1184 00:55:52,516 --> 00:55:55,519 of the case that the government put against Lee Oswald, 1185 00:55:55,603 --> 00:55:57,229 uh, obviously, he was dead. 1186 00:55:57,313 --> 00:56:01,150 He had no chance to have cross-examined witnesses. 1187 00:56:01,233 --> 00:56:03,861 Uh, he had no lawyer appointed. 1188 00:56:03,944 --> 00:56:05,571 -These people have given me a hearing 1189 00:56:05,654 --> 00:56:07,656 without legal representation or anything. 1190 00:56:07,740 --> 00:56:08,908 [reporter] Did you shoot the President? 1191 00:56:08,991 --> 00:56:10,493 -I didn't shoot anybody. No sir. 1192 00:56:11,660 --> 00:56:13,954 [Brian Edwards] Mark Lane, an attorney out of New York, 1193 00:56:14,038 --> 00:56:18,084 tried to get, uh, legal representation for Lee Oswald. 1194 00:56:18,167 --> 00:56:19,960 In fact, went to the commission and asked, 1195 00:56:20,044 --> 00:56:22,922 "Can I represent Lee Oswald?" And they denied it. 1196 00:56:23,005 --> 00:56:26,425 Because again this is, this is not a typical court hearing. 1197 00:56:35,059 --> 00:56:36,393 -I can tell you from my experiences, 1198 00:56:36,477 --> 00:56:39,355 having tried several hundred cases to verdict, 1199 00:56:39,438 --> 00:56:41,357 and being responsible for thousands of cases 1200 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,485 as head of the criminal courts and running the Homicide Bureau 1201 00:56:44,819 --> 00:56:47,154 that I don't believe there's any courtroom in America 1202 00:56:47,238 --> 00:56:48,781 where Oswald would have been convicted 1203 00:56:48,864 --> 00:56:51,033 on the evidence that was presented 1204 00:56:51,117 --> 00:56:52,368 before the Warren Commission. 1205 00:57:14,265 --> 00:57:17,268 [โ™ชโ™ชโ™ช] 93682

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