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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:00,128 --> 00:01:01,729 A University of Wyoming student 2 00:01:01,762 --> 00:01:03,897 was out riding his mountain bike 3 00:01:03,931 --> 00:01:07,468 and he falls down, 4 00:01:07,501 --> 00:01:08,736 looks up, 5 00:01:11,405 --> 00:01:13,974 sees what he thinks is a scarecrow 6 00:01:14,007 --> 00:01:16,944 or a prank, just because of Halloween 7 00:01:16,977 --> 00:01:19,213 just around the corner, which, of course, 8 00:01:19,247 --> 00:01:20,414 this was early October, 9 00:01:20,448 --> 00:01:22,250 and goes over to investigate, 10 00:01:22,283 --> 00:01:24,585 and, of course, was horrified by what he found. 11 00:01:42,370 --> 00:01:45,005 I can still see the description of him, 12 00:01:45,038 --> 00:01:47,074 the biker who found him 13 00:01:47,175 --> 00:01:49,176 and thought he was a scarecrow... 14 00:01:50,244 --> 00:01:53,614 of the deer, 15 00:01:53,646 --> 00:01:57,185 that was keeping him company all night, 16 00:01:57,218 --> 00:01:59,187 and when he was found, 17 00:01:59,187 --> 00:02:00,988 the deer got up and ran away. 18 00:02:02,590 --> 00:02:04,392 There's just a... 19 00:02:04,425 --> 00:02:08,996 A feeling of divinity around him. 20 00:02:09,029 --> 00:02:12,200 There's a feeling of an angelic presence. 21 00:02:28,882 --> 00:02:31,852 This is a child who was loved and adored, 22 00:02:31,885 --> 00:02:35,022 and in every way, kind of, the boy next door. 23 00:02:36,490 --> 00:02:39,393 This is a sign of rage, something very personal, 24 00:02:39,427 --> 00:02:41,728 something very terrifying about that. 25 00:02:56,577 --> 00:02:59,913 How cold he had to have been tied to that fence 26 00:02:59,947 --> 00:03:01,915 and not found for 18 hours, 27 00:03:01,949 --> 00:03:03,484 and still be alive. 28 00:03:27,875 --> 00:03:30,444 They then took him to Ivinson Memorial Hospital, 29 00:03:30,478 --> 00:03:32,846 which is the local Laramie hospital 30 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,816 to try and see what they could possibly do. 31 00:04:25,165 --> 00:04:26,700 It was a mystery to the officers, 32 00:04:26,734 --> 00:04:28,736 okay, "Who is this person? 33 00:04:28,769 --> 00:04:30,871 Who is Matthew Shepard?" 34 00:04:47,521 --> 00:04:50,023 "Hey, Mom, I'm writing to say hello. 35 00:04:50,591 --> 00:04:51,925 How is everything? 36 00:04:53,159 --> 00:04:55,629 I've been okay, kinda homesick. 37 00:04:55,663 --> 00:04:58,899 Having trouble with getting into the swing of things, 38 00:04:58,932 --> 00:05:01,068 but it won't last long, I hope. 39 00:05:03,203 --> 00:05:07,741 I've been real depressed and I think it's let-down. 40 00:05:07,775 --> 00:05:10,511 I came back and the weather was crummy, 41 00:05:10,544 --> 00:05:11,979 and I miss home. 42 00:05:12,746 --> 00:05:14,047 Miss you. 43 00:05:14,081 --> 00:05:15,816 Love, Matt." 44 00:05:22,390 --> 00:05:26,960 Matthew Wayne Shepard was born on December 1st, 1976. 45 00:05:26,994 --> 00:05:28,696 And even though he was a little guy, 46 00:05:28,729 --> 00:05:30,531 he had a huge personality. 47 00:05:30,564 --> 00:05:33,401 Matthew was a very emotional kid, very empathetic. 48 00:06:36,263 --> 00:06:37,865 My name is Jim Osborn, 49 00:06:37,898 --> 00:06:39,800 and I was a friend of Matthew Shepard. 50 00:06:41,234 --> 00:06:43,837 The first thing that I noticed about Matt 51 00:06:43,871 --> 00:06:45,005 is his smile. 52 00:06:46,006 --> 00:06:50,377 He just had this incredible beaming smile. 53 00:06:50,478 --> 00:06:51,879 My name is Romaine Patterson, 54 00:06:51,912 --> 00:06:54,615 and I was friends with Matthew Shepard. 55 00:06:55,783 --> 00:06:57,117 Oh, I loved his laugh. 56 00:06:57,150 --> 00:06:58,819 I loved his smile more. 57 00:06:58,852 --> 00:07:00,488 He had a great smile. 58 00:07:00,488 --> 00:07:02,590 It beamed. 59 00:07:02,623 --> 00:07:04,324 He was young. 60 00:07:04,357 --> 00:07:06,126 Looked like a sweet innocent guy. 61 00:07:06,159 --> 00:07:07,761 Just looked like a nice kid. 62 00:07:07,795 --> 00:07:09,597 It wasn't just his mouth. 63 00:07:09,630 --> 00:07:11,398 His eyes would kinda light up 64 00:07:11,499 --> 00:07:13,567 and twinkle or sparkle at you, 65 00:07:13,601 --> 00:07:16,570 and it was like his whole body smiled at you. 66 00:07:21,241 --> 00:07:24,111 Wyoming is like a sleepy little town. 67 00:07:24,144 --> 00:07:26,547 The whole state is one sleep little town. 68 00:07:27,848 --> 00:07:30,217 We're the least populated state in the union. 69 00:07:30,250 --> 00:07:34,755 We're sort of our own little galaxy here. 70 00:07:34,788 --> 00:07:36,824 We are geographically enormous. 71 00:07:36,857 --> 00:07:38,992 We're the 10th largest state in the country, 72 00:07:39,026 --> 00:07:42,663 but we have the smallest population. 73 00:07:44,131 --> 00:07:47,234 In 1998, even though we're watching Will and Grace, 74 00:07:47,267 --> 00:07:50,170 we are the most conservative state in America. 75 00:07:56,877 --> 00:07:58,846 Growing up in the '70s and '80s, 76 00:07:58,879 --> 00:08:00,280 you couldn't be different. 77 00:08:00,313 --> 00:08:02,415 It was a kind of place where, 78 00:08:02,449 --> 00:08:04,585 if you were a stereotypical cowboy, 79 00:08:04,618 --> 00:08:06,854 working on an oil rig, you'd fit in. 80 00:08:06,887 --> 00:08:09,990 But it wasn't like growing up in New York City 81 00:08:10,023 --> 00:08:12,926 or any of the major cities in the country. 82 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,595 Unfortunately, the word "faggot" 83 00:08:14,628 --> 00:08:15,929 was sort of a go-to 84 00:08:15,963 --> 00:08:17,430 whether or not that had anything to do 85 00:08:17,464 --> 00:08:19,567 with your sexuality or not, that was just a word 86 00:08:19,567 --> 00:08:22,469 that was used to describe you as like a loser 87 00:08:22,570 --> 00:08:23,704 or you as a different. 88 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,467 I am from Nebraska, 89 00:08:54,501 --> 00:08:56,870 and I graduated in high school in 1987. 90 00:08:56,904 --> 00:08:58,005 Even though we were... 91 00:08:58,038 --> 00:09:00,140 You know, Matthew and I lived in very different cities 92 00:09:00,173 --> 00:09:03,944 but it seemed like he was a kid that I very easily 93 00:09:03,977 --> 00:09:05,946 would have been friends with, could have friends with. 94 00:09:06,914 --> 00:09:10,183 He seemed like somebody a lot of us knew. 95 00:09:10,217 --> 00:09:12,786 He seemed like your friend in high school 96 00:09:12,820 --> 00:09:14,221 that probably was gay. 97 00:09:15,823 --> 00:09:17,224 There's no denying 98 00:09:17,257 --> 00:09:19,459 that Matthew was gay and he knew that. 99 00:09:19,492 --> 00:09:21,929 Like, if you looked at Matthew, 100 00:09:21,962 --> 00:09:23,363 you saw a gay man. 101 00:09:23,396 --> 00:09:24,865 There was not a... 102 00:09:24,898 --> 00:09:26,700 There was not even an ounce of straight there. 103 00:09:29,169 --> 00:09:31,104 In 1993, as Matthew was finishing 104 00:09:31,138 --> 00:09:33,106 his sophomore year of high school, 105 00:09:33,140 --> 00:09:35,242 his dad got a job with an oil company 106 00:09:35,275 --> 00:09:36,143 in Saudi Arabia. 107 00:09:38,646 --> 00:09:41,682 As Matthew's family began to move to Saudi Arabia, 108 00:09:41,715 --> 00:09:44,184 Matthew settled on an American school in Switzerland. 109 00:10:02,269 --> 00:10:04,171 So, in the second semester of his senior year, 110 00:10:04,204 --> 00:10:06,506 he went with some friends to Morocco. 111 00:10:07,708 --> 00:10:10,277 Morocco at the time, wasn't perhaps 112 00:10:10,310 --> 00:10:12,713 the tourist destination that it is today 113 00:10:12,746 --> 00:10:15,548 and it wasn't known for being particularly safe. 114 00:10:17,651 --> 00:10:19,887 My understanding of what happened in Morocco 115 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,355 was that on one particular evening, 116 00:10:22,389 --> 00:10:26,193 Matthew wanted to go out and see things. 117 00:10:26,226 --> 00:10:27,661 He didn't think, "Oh, I should go out 118 00:10:27,695 --> 00:10:30,563 with a group of people in a place that I'm unfamiliar with." 119 00:10:30,597 --> 00:10:32,199 He just decided, "I'm gonna go out. 120 00:10:32,232 --> 00:10:33,466 I'm gonna leave the hotel. 121 00:10:33,500 --> 00:10:34,768 I'm gonna wander around. I'm gonna look at the shops." 122 00:10:34,802 --> 00:10:36,804 Things like that. That's something he totally would have done. 123 00:10:37,871 --> 00:10:42,409 And while he was out, he was snatched. 124 00:10:48,982 --> 00:10:50,718 In Morocco, a couple of men took Matthew 125 00:10:50,751 --> 00:10:54,354 to a isolated place and raped him. 126 00:10:57,057 --> 00:11:00,527 At that time, the idea that a young gay guy 127 00:11:00,560 --> 00:11:03,263 is raped by a group of adult men, 128 00:11:03,296 --> 00:11:06,066 people couldn't even fathom that kind of stuff. 129 00:11:06,099 --> 00:11:08,235 And so, Matthew came back to the hotel, 130 00:11:08,268 --> 00:11:10,337 you know, immediately told people. 131 00:11:10,370 --> 00:11:12,239 His parents were contacted, 132 00:11:12,272 --> 00:11:13,741 the police were notified 133 00:11:13,741 --> 00:11:15,142 but they never found the attackers. 134 00:11:15,175 --> 00:11:16,309 It was a random attack. 135 00:11:16,343 --> 00:11:17,778 They had no idea who did it. 136 00:11:18,645 --> 00:11:20,580 After the attack, Matthew changed. 137 00:11:20,613 --> 00:11:22,515 He wasn't himself. 138 00:11:22,549 --> 00:11:24,852 I think what happened is he lost his sense 139 00:11:24,885 --> 00:11:26,854 of safety in the world. 140 00:11:29,356 --> 00:11:33,160 Being assaulted is a traumatizing experience. 141 00:11:33,193 --> 00:11:36,897 Trauma has deep, lasting impacts 142 00:11:36,930 --> 00:11:39,032 on someone's development, 143 00:11:39,066 --> 00:11:42,135 their social development, their emotional development, 144 00:11:42,169 --> 00:11:43,837 their spiritual development, 145 00:11:43,871 --> 00:11:45,472 and people who experienced trauma 146 00:11:45,505 --> 00:11:49,409 are at risk of feeling suicidal, 147 00:11:49,442 --> 00:11:52,179 having poor mental health like depression and anxiety. 148 00:11:54,314 --> 00:11:57,350 In 1995, Matthew graduated from high school, 149 00:11:57,384 --> 00:11:58,886 returned to the US, 150 00:11:58,919 --> 00:12:01,588 and he decided to come out to his mom. 151 00:12:01,621 --> 00:12:04,524 I definitely think that Matt felt comfortable 152 00:12:04,557 --> 00:12:06,626 in his skin and was comfortable being out. 153 00:12:07,460 --> 00:12:09,529 By the early '90s, 154 00:12:09,562 --> 00:12:12,332 you have good things happening in the cultural world, 155 00:12:12,365 --> 00:12:15,268 with more representation with gay people. 156 00:12:15,302 --> 00:12:18,105 How many lawyers did you go to before you called me? 157 00:12:18,138 --> 00:12:19,606 Nine. 158 00:12:19,639 --> 00:12:21,308 You're trying to get rid of her because she's gay. 159 00:12:21,341 --> 00:12:26,079 I hadn't really come to terms with my sexuality until like 1984, '95. 160 00:12:26,113 --> 00:12:27,881 And then, yes, 161 00:12:27,915 --> 00:12:29,649 Ellen DeGeneres is a thing. 162 00:12:30,217 --> 00:12:32,652 I'm gay. 163 00:12:32,685 --> 00:12:37,090 In the late '90s, there was a great kind of boom for gay people. 164 00:12:37,124 --> 00:12:39,592 There was more representation on television. 165 00:12:40,427 --> 00:12:42,562 Ellen had come out. 166 00:12:42,595 --> 00:12:45,498 People fell in love with Jack on Will and Grace, 167 00:12:45,532 --> 00:12:49,837 an overtly, outwardly gay character. 168 00:12:49,837 --> 00:12:52,305 A question of sexual orientation? 169 00:12:53,974 --> 00:12:56,276 The doctor is in. 170 00:12:57,410 --> 00:13:00,613 I think middle America was becoming more comfortable, 171 00:13:00,647 --> 00:13:02,449 you know, with the thought that there are gay people 172 00:13:02,482 --> 00:13:04,952 out there and that they are just regular people. 173 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,223 And I think that gave Matthew the sense of security 174 00:13:10,257 --> 00:13:13,093 that he wasn't alone and that he was in fact safe. 175 00:13:14,862 --> 00:13:17,297 Matthew later bounced around 176 00:13:17,330 --> 00:13:19,299 to a few different places. 177 00:13:19,332 --> 00:13:22,302 He eventually wound up back in Casper, Wyoming, 178 00:13:22,335 --> 00:13:24,637 his hometown. 179 00:13:24,671 --> 00:13:26,173 I went to my first year of college 180 00:13:26,206 --> 00:13:28,641 at Casper College in Casper, Wyoming. 181 00:13:28,675 --> 00:13:32,880 I got to know one of the instructors on campus. 182 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:34,214 She called me one day and she said, 183 00:13:34,247 --> 00:13:37,417 "I got this weird call today from a therapist. 184 00:13:37,450 --> 00:13:41,688 And he's got a client, and he would like to introduce his client 185 00:13:41,721 --> 00:13:43,190 to other young gay people. 186 00:13:43,223 --> 00:13:44,992 Can I send him your way?" 187 00:13:45,025 --> 00:13:47,094 And I said, "Okay. Sure. Why not?" 188 00:13:49,696 --> 00:13:53,200 And it's this awkward young man named Matthew. 189 00:13:53,233 --> 00:13:54,801 He's like, "I'm trying to meet some new people 190 00:13:54,902 --> 00:13:57,337 here in Casper who are gay too," 191 00:13:57,370 --> 00:14:00,140 and he was super cute, but we took him under our wing 192 00:14:00,173 --> 00:14:02,175 and we were like, "Listen, you're one of us now." 193 00:14:06,613 --> 00:14:09,917 I think depression was a real issue for Matthew. 194 00:14:09,917 --> 00:14:11,351 I think he was a manic depressive 195 00:14:11,384 --> 00:14:13,353 so sometimes he was super, super high 196 00:14:13,386 --> 00:14:14,687 and things were awesome. 197 00:14:17,324 --> 00:14:20,827 "February 23, 1998. 198 00:14:20,928 --> 00:14:23,596 I put the Cherry Creek to shame tonight. 199 00:14:23,630 --> 00:14:26,199 Walked around in my humble cute self. 200 00:14:26,233 --> 00:14:27,767 It was fun. 201 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,103 I've really gained a lot of comfort here." 202 00:14:31,538 --> 00:14:32,739 And then, there were times were things 203 00:14:32,772 --> 00:14:34,341 were literally the opposite, 204 00:14:34,374 --> 00:14:37,945 where it could not had been lower for him. 205 00:14:37,978 --> 00:14:40,747 "It's been a long time since I've journaled, 206 00:14:40,780 --> 00:14:42,582 but I understand why now. 207 00:14:43,616 --> 00:14:45,485 I'm so depressed." 208 00:14:46,819 --> 00:14:49,522 I think Matthew really did try to address 209 00:14:49,556 --> 00:14:52,625 the personal traumas that he had endured. 210 00:14:52,659 --> 00:14:54,861 He dealt with them the best that he could, 211 00:14:54,962 --> 00:14:57,597 where he didn't feel bad about himself, 212 00:14:57,630 --> 00:14:59,332 he didn't blame himself for the things 213 00:14:59,366 --> 00:15:00,968 that had happened in Morocco. 214 00:15:01,001 --> 00:15:02,602 And he was always, you know, 215 00:15:02,635 --> 00:15:04,504 trying to find that happy balance. 216 00:15:08,475 --> 00:15:12,279 "I'm gonna call home tonight and say hello to my mom and dad. 217 00:15:12,312 --> 00:15:14,647 I miss my family so much. 218 00:15:14,681 --> 00:15:17,317 They're so important to me. 219 00:15:17,350 --> 00:15:19,686 I wish that I could see them more often." 220 00:15:22,289 --> 00:15:23,623 That spring, Matthew announced that he was going 221 00:15:23,656 --> 00:15:25,425 to move to Laramie, Wyoming, 222 00:15:25,458 --> 00:15:27,394 and in May he made that move. 223 00:15:29,896 --> 00:15:31,698 He enrolled at the University of Wyoming, 224 00:15:31,731 --> 00:15:34,067 which is where his parents had gone to school. 225 00:15:36,569 --> 00:15:38,771 Mathew was pretty happy in Laramie. 226 00:15:38,805 --> 00:15:41,574 Within the red state, this college town 227 00:15:41,608 --> 00:15:44,544 was sort of a liberal enclave, so while he was there, 228 00:15:44,577 --> 00:15:46,579 he met like-minded people, 229 00:15:46,613 --> 00:15:47,747 he was connecting with friends, 230 00:15:47,780 --> 00:15:50,183 and that's also where he met Jim Osborn. 231 00:15:50,217 --> 00:15:52,519 I'd see him almost every single day 232 00:15:52,552 --> 00:15:54,621 in front of the Union, and there he was, 233 00:15:54,654 --> 00:15:56,656 usually people-watching, 234 00:15:56,689 --> 00:15:59,292 always with his hair just so 235 00:15:59,326 --> 00:16:01,828 and polished look about him, 236 00:16:01,861 --> 00:16:03,896 you know, just always making sure 237 00:16:03,930 --> 00:16:07,500 that anyone he talked to, he was very focused on them 238 00:16:07,534 --> 00:16:10,503 and was very present in that conversation. 239 00:16:11,904 --> 00:16:14,074 He always seemed to be very confident 240 00:16:14,107 --> 00:16:17,244 and was definitely outgoing and personable. 241 00:16:17,277 --> 00:16:20,413 I never doubted "This kid is gonna make a difference." 242 00:16:30,423 --> 00:16:32,059 So, Tuesday night, 243 00:16:32,059 --> 00:16:35,895 Matt came to the LGBTA Meeting. 244 00:16:35,928 --> 00:16:38,131 We'd been kinda putting the final plans 245 00:16:38,165 --> 00:16:41,368 on all of the events for Gay Awareness Week. 246 00:16:41,401 --> 00:16:45,272 And then, as we did most weeks after the meeting, 247 00:16:45,305 --> 00:16:47,474 we all agreed, let's go out for, 248 00:16:47,507 --> 00:16:50,210 you know, dinner and something to drink after. 249 00:16:51,111 --> 00:16:52,345 And so we did that. 250 00:16:52,379 --> 00:16:55,682 And after we'd been there for a while at Village Inn, 251 00:16:55,715 --> 00:16:58,451 he said, "Okay. Well, I'm, I'm not heading home yet." 252 00:16:58,485 --> 00:17:00,520 And we later learned that he ended up 253 00:17:00,553 --> 00:17:01,454 at the Fireside. 254 00:17:07,794 --> 00:17:09,662 I can only imagine that Matthew felt 255 00:17:09,695 --> 00:17:13,165 perfectly safe walking into the Fireside Lounge. 256 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,102 It's a place he'd been before. 257 00:17:15,102 --> 00:17:16,103 He knew the bartender. 258 00:17:16,136 --> 00:17:18,605 He had no reason to be looking over his shoulder 259 00:17:18,637 --> 00:17:20,873 and thinking someone was gonna do him harm. 260 00:17:21,941 --> 00:17:24,977 The Fireside was not a gay bar, 261 00:17:25,011 --> 00:17:27,680 but certainly a bar where gay people 262 00:17:27,714 --> 00:17:29,682 did go from time to time 263 00:17:29,716 --> 00:17:32,252 because we didn't have a designated gay bar 264 00:17:32,285 --> 00:17:33,320 in the state. 265 00:17:34,654 --> 00:17:38,325 Most of us had a bar or two that we could go out to 266 00:17:38,358 --> 00:17:40,960 and feel relatively safe. 267 00:17:40,993 --> 00:17:42,462 I had been to the Fireside. 268 00:17:42,495 --> 00:17:45,165 It was nothing special. 269 00:18:25,705 --> 00:18:27,474 Matt says he saw Matthew Shepard 270 00:18:27,507 --> 00:18:28,841 leave the bar with two men. 271 00:18:30,210 --> 00:18:32,479 Although he didn't see their faces on the way out, 272 00:18:32,512 --> 00:18:34,581 he's confident that those two men 273 00:18:34,614 --> 00:18:37,784 were the same who were paying with coins for their pitchers, 274 00:18:37,817 --> 00:18:39,952 because he didn't see those guys around after that. 275 00:19:16,323 --> 00:19:17,690 Shortly after midnight 276 00:19:17,724 --> 00:19:19,359 in a neighborhood just north of town, 277 00:19:19,392 --> 00:19:22,362 a resident wakes up and hears a hissing sound. 278 00:19:23,296 --> 00:19:25,798 So he goes outside to investigate. 279 00:19:25,832 --> 00:19:29,236 What he finds is that his tire has been slashed. 280 00:19:35,475 --> 00:19:38,411 He calls the police. That's around 12:40 a.m., 281 00:19:38,445 --> 00:19:41,147 and lets them know he thinks someone has slashed his tire. 282 00:19:58,298 --> 00:20:00,400 At that time, the officer was about four blocks 283 00:20:00,433 --> 00:20:02,702 from the house where the tires were slashed, 284 00:20:02,735 --> 00:20:06,172 he sees two guys behaving kinda strangely 285 00:20:06,205 --> 00:20:08,841 in this black Ford pickup truck. 286 00:20:12,979 --> 00:20:15,615 And they're sitting there and they aren't moving. 287 00:20:15,648 --> 00:20:17,149 It's well past midnight, 288 00:20:17,183 --> 00:20:19,719 there aren't many people out and about. 289 00:20:19,752 --> 00:20:21,721 He's out looking for people 290 00:20:21,754 --> 00:20:23,122 who just slashed somebody's tire. 291 00:20:24,791 --> 00:20:27,327 And so he shines a light on them, 292 00:20:27,360 --> 00:20:29,629 announces it's police. 293 00:20:29,662 --> 00:20:31,197 He thought they could have been the suspects 294 00:20:31,230 --> 00:20:32,865 in the tire slashing. 295 00:20:59,091 --> 00:21:01,428 Russell Henderson was somebody 296 00:21:01,461 --> 00:21:02,662 who came from a family 297 00:21:02,695 --> 00:21:04,931 that had been in Laramie a long time. 298 00:21:04,964 --> 00:21:07,534 By all accounts, was a pretty good kid 299 00:21:07,567 --> 00:21:09,035 up until late teens. 300 00:21:09,068 --> 00:21:11,638 He was an Eagle Scout. 301 00:21:11,671 --> 00:21:13,406 He was raised by his grandmother. 302 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,975 His mother had some issues. 303 00:21:16,008 --> 00:21:17,510 While he was living with his grandmother, 304 00:21:17,544 --> 00:21:19,612 he was dating a University of Wyoming student 305 00:21:19,646 --> 00:21:21,648 named Chastity Paisley. 306 00:21:23,416 --> 00:21:24,917 And there's blood on him. 307 00:21:24,951 --> 00:21:27,520 So the officer asks Henderson, 308 00:21:27,554 --> 00:21:29,589 what happened to your left? 309 00:21:29,622 --> 00:21:33,360 He tells the officer a pretty confusing story. 310 00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:36,696 Russell says that they got jumped by two men 311 00:21:36,729 --> 00:21:39,966 who he describes as a White guy and a Hispanic guy, 312 00:21:39,999 --> 00:21:43,169 and that they'd been beaten up pretty badly by them. 313 00:21:44,270 --> 00:21:46,072 Russell said that the other two guys, 314 00:21:46,105 --> 00:21:48,841 the White guy and the Hispanic guy had run off. 315 00:21:48,875 --> 00:21:51,811 So, he's asked, "Okay, well who were you with? 316 00:21:51,844 --> 00:21:54,947 Because we think you're involved in some of this vandalism 317 00:21:54,981 --> 00:21:57,517 that we've heard about in the area." 318 00:21:57,550 --> 00:22:00,387 It seems Russell is telling the police officer 319 00:22:00,420 --> 00:22:03,856 that he was not involved in the tire slashing. 320 00:22:05,291 --> 00:22:08,528 He won't name anyone's names, including the guy 321 00:22:08,561 --> 00:22:10,597 who the officer just saw run away. 322 00:22:12,064 --> 00:22:13,733 Russell was hesitating to tell the officer 323 00:22:13,766 --> 00:22:16,068 who the truck belonged to. 324 00:22:16,102 --> 00:22:18,971 And finally he says, "Well, I was with Aaron McKinney." 325 00:22:19,839 --> 00:22:23,943 Aaron McKinney was a young man 326 00:22:23,976 --> 00:22:26,746 who had grown up in Laramie. 327 00:22:26,779 --> 00:22:29,048 His parents were divorced. 328 00:22:29,081 --> 00:22:31,684 Anderson met Aaron McKinney at some point 329 00:22:31,718 --> 00:22:33,753 and they were roofers together. 330 00:22:33,786 --> 00:22:36,423 Aaron McKinney was dating someone named Kristen Price, 331 00:22:36,423 --> 00:22:39,426 and the two of them had recently had a baby together. 332 00:22:39,426 --> 00:22:42,762 Aaron's mother had died a few years earlier, 333 00:22:42,795 --> 00:22:45,131 actually from complications from a hysterectomy. 334 00:22:45,164 --> 00:22:49,902 And that actually led to him inheriting quite a bit of money 335 00:22:49,936 --> 00:22:51,704 due to a life insurance policy, 336 00:22:51,738 --> 00:22:53,806 and unfortunately, 337 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,476 he used a lot of that money on drugs 338 00:22:56,509 --> 00:22:58,778 and poor behavior. 339 00:23:01,881 --> 00:23:03,516 In the early '90s, crystal meth 340 00:23:03,550 --> 00:23:05,785 arrived in Wyoming in a big way. 341 00:23:05,818 --> 00:23:07,787 For someone like Aaron McKinney, 342 00:23:07,820 --> 00:23:10,890 who thought of himself as a bad boy to start with 343 00:23:10,923 --> 00:23:12,759 and had money in his pocket to burn, 344 00:23:12,792 --> 00:23:14,494 it's not so surprising that he wound up 345 00:23:14,527 --> 00:23:17,797 becoming one of the army of people 346 00:23:17,830 --> 00:23:19,599 who became addicted to meth. 347 00:23:23,470 --> 00:23:25,772 So the officer continues talking 348 00:23:25,805 --> 00:23:28,475 to Russell Henderson and he says, 349 00:23:28,475 --> 00:23:30,777 Aaron McKinney got cracked 350 00:23:30,810 --> 00:23:33,613 with a stick or something when they got jumped. 351 00:23:33,646 --> 00:23:36,048 And Russell Henderson, 352 00:23:36,082 --> 00:23:37,484 he's got a gash in his lip 353 00:23:37,517 --> 00:23:39,285 and there's blood on him. 354 00:23:39,318 --> 00:23:41,287 So, the officer also broadcasts out 355 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,490 the descriptions of the men who Russell 356 00:23:43,523 --> 00:23:45,057 told him about, this white guy 357 00:23:45,091 --> 00:23:47,126 and Hispanic guy who supposedly jumped them. 358 00:23:48,327 --> 00:23:50,497 Right now everyone thinks that those two men 359 00:23:50,497 --> 00:23:53,332 could be responsible not just for vandalizing the tire, 360 00:23:53,365 --> 00:23:55,635 but also for attacking Russell and Aaron, 361 00:23:55,668 --> 00:23:57,837 both of whom were pretty badly injured. 362 00:23:57,870 --> 00:24:01,007 And so after they finished their conversation, 363 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,909 Henderson goes in an ambulance 364 00:24:02,942 --> 00:24:05,678 to Ivinson Memorial Hospital. 365 00:24:08,681 --> 00:24:10,950 The officer takes a look at the truck... 366 00:24:12,519 --> 00:24:17,089 and he sees a lot of things outside of the truck that looked odd. 367 00:24:22,194 --> 00:24:26,365 There's this really bloody gun. 368 00:24:26,398 --> 00:24:29,268 What is all this stuff? What has happened here? 369 00:24:29,301 --> 00:24:33,139 And they're just absolutely baffled by what took place here. 370 00:24:33,172 --> 00:24:36,543 Initially, they think it's just this one fight 371 00:24:36,576 --> 00:24:38,978 in a residential area, 372 00:24:39,011 --> 00:24:41,814 but there's more to this and they know it. 373 00:24:53,459 --> 00:24:56,563 So they're processing outside of the truck, 374 00:24:56,596 --> 00:24:58,798 they're swabbing blood. 375 00:24:58,831 --> 00:25:02,101 And of course, this gun in the bed of the truck is available to them, 376 00:25:02,134 --> 00:25:03,435 so they take it, 377 00:25:03,469 --> 00:25:05,104 and it's just covered with blood. 378 00:25:08,207 --> 00:25:11,277 Under federal law, there is an exception 379 00:25:11,310 --> 00:25:13,445 to the rule that you need a search warrant, 380 00:25:13,479 --> 00:25:15,782 which is called the plain view doctrine. 381 00:25:15,815 --> 00:25:18,050 If an officer sees a potential piece of evidence 382 00:25:18,084 --> 00:25:20,787 in plain sight, they're allowed to take that evidence, 383 00:25:20,820 --> 00:25:21,921 preserve that evidence, 384 00:25:21,954 --> 00:25:24,056 in the event that a crime has been committed. 385 00:25:25,725 --> 00:25:27,627 And then, they look in the cab 386 00:25:27,660 --> 00:25:29,962 and they see this really nice pair of shoes, 387 00:25:29,996 --> 00:25:30,963 which seem out of place, 388 00:25:30,997 --> 00:25:32,999 because they don't seem like the kind 389 00:25:33,032 --> 00:25:35,067 that these guys would have. 390 00:25:57,957 --> 00:26:00,526 So, what's interesting is you have 391 00:26:00,627 --> 00:26:03,062 some Laramie Police Department people 392 00:26:03,095 --> 00:26:06,532 listening in to the radio call. 393 00:26:06,633 --> 00:26:08,635 When Deputy Fluty, the Albany County 394 00:26:08,635 --> 00:26:11,537 Sheriff's Deputy calls from the fence and said, 395 00:26:11,638 --> 00:26:12,805 "We've got the student ID 396 00:26:12,839 --> 00:26:15,808 with the name of Matthew Shepard," 397 00:26:17,043 --> 00:26:19,679 the ears of some police detectives perk up. 398 00:26:34,727 --> 00:26:36,428 Right around this time, 399 00:26:36,462 --> 00:26:39,398 police are still looking for Aaron McKinney. 400 00:26:39,431 --> 00:26:43,169 They go to his house... He's not there. 401 00:26:43,202 --> 00:26:45,504 Eventually, Kristen Price, 402 00:26:45,537 --> 00:26:47,807 who was Aaron McKinney's girlfriend, 403 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,810 called police and said Aaron was badly beaten up, 404 00:26:50,843 --> 00:26:54,346 and so now he's at the hospital. 405 00:26:54,380 --> 00:26:56,548 Aaron was injured pretty badly from the assault 406 00:26:56,582 --> 00:26:57,817 the night before between the White guy 407 00:26:57,850 --> 00:26:59,686 and the Hispanic guy, 408 00:26:59,686 --> 00:27:01,821 and he had to be transferred from the local hospital 409 00:27:01,854 --> 00:27:04,791 to Poudre Valley to have his head injury treated. 410 00:27:04,824 --> 00:27:06,793 Police were invited by Kristen Price 411 00:27:06,826 --> 00:27:08,194 to come and interview him. 412 00:27:08,227 --> 00:27:10,162 They do talk to him briefly 413 00:27:10,196 --> 00:27:13,599 a little bit and asked him about the incident. 414 00:27:13,700 --> 00:27:16,803 So, they started asking McKinney about the truck 415 00:27:16,836 --> 00:27:20,039 and he said, "Oh, well, that was stolen from us 416 00:27:20,072 --> 00:27:23,042 when we were out last night." 417 00:27:23,075 --> 00:27:25,712 And he said he had been jumped by a couple of folks 418 00:27:25,712 --> 00:27:26,946 and he got cracked in the head. 419 00:27:28,881 --> 00:27:31,483 While officers are interviewing Aaron McKinney 420 00:27:31,517 --> 00:27:33,820 at the hospital, they received word 421 00:27:33,853 --> 00:27:36,588 that Matthew has been found on the outskirts of town 422 00:27:36,622 --> 00:27:39,058 and is being brought into that same hospital. 423 00:27:40,727 --> 00:27:44,463 When the doctors there see him, 424 00:27:44,496 --> 00:27:46,933 they are doing what they can to try and revive him. 425 00:28:14,593 --> 00:28:16,428 The hospital contacted his parents, 426 00:28:16,462 --> 00:28:17,964 who were still in Saudi Arabia. 427 00:28:17,997 --> 00:28:19,766 They started the process of getting home 428 00:28:19,766 --> 00:28:20,900 as quickly as they could. 429 00:28:22,769 --> 00:28:23,770 They realized right away, 430 00:28:23,803 --> 00:28:26,005 "We can't take care of him here." 431 00:28:26,038 --> 00:28:27,874 So there's a hospital in Fort Collins 432 00:28:27,907 --> 00:28:29,341 called Poudre Valley Hospital 433 00:28:29,375 --> 00:28:31,277 that handles head injuries. 434 00:28:31,310 --> 00:28:32,278 So, they realized right away, 435 00:28:32,311 --> 00:28:35,281 "We gotta get him to that hospital." 436 00:28:44,290 --> 00:28:46,859 The first time I learned about what had happened to Matt, 437 00:28:46,893 --> 00:28:49,528 I got an email from a mutual friend of ours, 438 00:28:49,561 --> 00:28:51,263 the same friend that had introduced us. 439 00:28:51,297 --> 00:28:54,266 And she let me know that Matt had been attacked 440 00:28:54,300 --> 00:28:56,235 and that he was in the hospital. 441 00:28:56,268 --> 00:28:58,437 She let me know that his prognosis 442 00:28:58,470 --> 00:29:00,206 was not good. 443 00:29:00,239 --> 00:29:02,875 There was a shock, there was a fear. 444 00:29:02,909 --> 00:29:05,845 There was just this distraught feeling you had 445 00:29:05,878 --> 00:29:07,513 because you knew there was nothing you could do. 446 00:29:07,546 --> 00:29:10,549 And so I just kind of waited it out. 447 00:29:11,984 --> 00:29:15,021 The first few hours were honestly pretty scary 448 00:29:15,054 --> 00:29:17,456 for myself and most of the members of the group, 449 00:29:17,489 --> 00:29:20,292 because we didn't know who had done this. 450 00:29:22,728 --> 00:29:24,196 For me, it was unmistakable 451 00:29:24,230 --> 00:29:26,065 that this had to be about hate. 452 00:29:33,539 --> 00:29:37,176 So, law enforcement now starts to interview people of interest 453 00:29:37,209 --> 00:29:38,845 about Matthew's attack. 454 00:29:38,845 --> 00:29:41,047 Police bring Russell, 455 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,483 Chastity Paisley, who was Russell's girlfriend, 456 00:29:44,516 --> 00:29:48,020 and Kristen into the station 457 00:29:48,054 --> 00:29:50,689 and try and do interviews with them. 458 00:29:52,224 --> 00:29:55,327 Russell Henderson isn't speaking, so he's... 459 00:29:55,361 --> 00:29:57,296 "Lawyering up" is the term they use, 460 00:29:57,329 --> 00:29:59,398 he's gonna wait for an attorney. 461 00:29:59,431 --> 00:30:01,667 Chastity Paisley explains that, 462 00:30:01,700 --> 00:30:04,436 "Oh, well, I really don't know anything." 463 00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:07,874 Kristen Price had a little one at that time 464 00:30:07,907 --> 00:30:10,877 and she had no interest in getting arrested 465 00:30:10,910 --> 00:30:13,112 or having anything happen to her. 466 00:30:34,766 --> 00:30:36,402 And he told her, 467 00:30:36,435 --> 00:30:38,905 "I think I killed somebody tonight." 468 00:30:43,242 --> 00:30:46,178 He explained that he and Russell Henderson 469 00:30:46,212 --> 00:30:48,514 were at the Fireside bar 470 00:30:48,547 --> 00:30:51,150 where they saw somebody that was gay 471 00:30:51,183 --> 00:30:52,885 and he looked like he had money. 472 00:30:52,919 --> 00:30:54,286 Kristen tells him, 473 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,923 they came up with a plan that they would pretend 474 00:30:56,956 --> 00:30:59,025 that they're gay and they'll try 475 00:30:59,058 --> 00:31:00,759 and get him to go with them 476 00:31:00,792 --> 00:31:02,094 and that they will rob him. 477 00:31:03,229 --> 00:31:05,731 And eventually, he decided to go with them 478 00:31:05,764 --> 00:31:07,566 and they left the Fireside bar. 479 00:31:08,734 --> 00:31:10,136 After Aaron tells her what happened, 480 00:31:10,169 --> 00:31:13,372 he goes into the bathroom to get cleaned up. 481 00:31:13,405 --> 00:31:16,242 She looks in and sees him washing off a bloody wallet. 482 00:31:16,275 --> 00:31:19,111 Aaron then took that wallet, put it in a dirty diaper 483 00:31:19,145 --> 00:31:20,179 and threw it in the trash. 484 00:31:21,413 --> 00:31:24,750 Kristen says that Chastity and Russell 485 00:31:24,783 --> 00:31:28,287 come over and they discussed the evening's events, 486 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,389 realized they better get rid of some of their evidence, 487 00:31:30,422 --> 00:31:31,958 better get rid of their clothes. 488 00:31:51,877 --> 00:31:53,980 The clothing they did not get rid of 489 00:31:54,013 --> 00:31:55,081 was Russell's shoes, 490 00:31:55,114 --> 00:31:56,615 which were very expensive 491 00:31:56,648 --> 00:31:58,384 and he had just bought them, 492 00:31:58,417 --> 00:32:02,254 and they hid those in a shed at another location. 493 00:32:04,490 --> 00:32:07,193 Law enforcement goes to the location 494 00:32:07,226 --> 00:32:09,095 and after a little bit of a search, 495 00:32:09,128 --> 00:32:12,864 they find the shoes that were covered with blood. 496 00:32:12,898 --> 00:32:15,001 They go to the McKinney household 497 00:32:15,001 --> 00:32:17,469 where they find his clothes, 498 00:32:17,503 --> 00:32:22,608 they're bloody, and then in the dirty diaper they find the wallet 499 00:32:22,641 --> 00:32:24,010 that's got the driver's license 500 00:32:24,010 --> 00:32:26,378 of Matthew Shepard in it. 501 00:32:27,313 --> 00:32:29,715 By the end of the afternoon, 502 00:32:29,748 --> 00:32:30,849 all three were arrested 503 00:32:30,882 --> 00:32:33,485 in connection with what happened to Matthew Shepard. 504 00:32:37,389 --> 00:32:39,225 At the time, I was the news director 505 00:32:39,258 --> 00:32:41,093 at Wyoming Public Radio. 506 00:32:41,127 --> 00:32:42,928 I was also teaching that semester 507 00:32:43,029 --> 00:32:45,431 at the University of Wyoming. 508 00:32:45,464 --> 00:32:49,135 I had a student that was in my class 509 00:32:49,168 --> 00:32:52,171 and he called me up that morning 510 00:32:52,204 --> 00:32:56,642 and told me that he wasn't gonna be able to come to class that day 511 00:32:56,675 --> 00:32:59,445 because something bad had happened to a friend of his. 512 00:32:59,478 --> 00:33:01,680 And I'm like, "Are you kidding me?" 513 00:33:01,713 --> 00:33:02,781 Like what happened? 514 00:33:02,814 --> 00:33:04,083 He goes, "Oh, you're gonna hear about this. 515 00:33:04,116 --> 00:33:05,551 This is a real terrible thing. 516 00:33:05,584 --> 00:33:07,253 It's going to be a news story for you." 517 00:33:07,286 --> 00:33:08,587 Matthew Shepard... 518 00:33:08,620 --> 00:33:09,521 Matthew Shepard... 519 00:33:09,555 --> 00:33:10,556 Matthew Shepard... 520 00:33:10,589 --> 00:33:11,523 Matthew Shepard... 521 00:33:31,110 --> 00:33:32,411 You know, in public radio, 522 00:33:32,444 --> 00:33:36,248 we don't have the scanner on like TV stations do 523 00:33:36,282 --> 00:33:37,749 or newspapers might. 524 00:33:37,783 --> 00:33:40,719 We don't do a lot of that day-to-day crime stuff. 525 00:33:40,752 --> 00:33:43,089 But I did have somebody that morning tell me, 526 00:33:43,122 --> 00:33:45,624 "Wow, the scanner was really going last night." 527 00:33:45,657 --> 00:33:46,892 There was something going on. 528 00:33:46,925 --> 00:33:49,228 There's something that happened just outside of town. 529 00:33:50,096 --> 00:33:52,398 So, I called the sheriff's office 530 00:33:52,431 --> 00:33:54,666 and they wouldn't say anything, but they said, 531 00:33:54,700 --> 00:33:56,768 "We're gonna have a news conference at 3:00." 532 00:33:59,571 --> 00:34:00,872 That afternoon, we were there. 533 00:34:00,906 --> 00:34:02,974 Of course, there may have been 534 00:34:03,008 --> 00:34:04,710 one other radio station there, 535 00:34:04,743 --> 00:34:07,213 and then I remember that some local TV stations 536 00:34:07,246 --> 00:34:09,447 and some television stations from Denver were there. 537 00:34:11,382 --> 00:34:13,885 During the press conference, Sheriff Gary Puls 538 00:34:13,918 --> 00:34:17,223 remarked for the first time about Matthew's attack. 539 00:34:17,255 --> 00:34:20,259 He also announced the charges against Russell Henderson, 540 00:34:20,292 --> 00:34:23,129 Kristen Price and Chastity Paisley. 541 00:34:24,663 --> 00:34:27,299 Aaron McKinney had not been charged as of yet, 542 00:34:27,333 --> 00:34:30,936 but they told us that we know where he is 543 00:34:30,969 --> 00:34:33,371 and we are going to be charging him shortly. 544 00:34:33,405 --> 00:34:36,242 The sheriff made it very clear to us 545 00:34:36,275 --> 00:34:38,244 that he thought that this incident happened 546 00:34:38,277 --> 00:34:40,246 because Matthew Shepard was gay. 547 00:35:00,332 --> 00:35:02,368 In 1998, the Wyoming legislature 548 00:35:02,401 --> 00:35:04,536 is mostly retired ranchers, 549 00:35:04,570 --> 00:35:06,305 you know, old White men. 550 00:35:06,338 --> 00:35:08,540 We didn't have hate crime legislation. 551 00:35:08,574 --> 00:35:11,042 Passing any hate crimes legislation 552 00:35:11,076 --> 00:35:13,979 would be like putting a stamp of approval 553 00:35:14,012 --> 00:35:15,614 and saying "This is true, 554 00:35:15,647 --> 00:35:17,416 this is who we are." 555 00:35:17,449 --> 00:35:20,819 And it was just an obstacle that they couldn't overcome. 556 00:35:20,852 --> 00:35:22,421 From that point on, 557 00:35:22,454 --> 00:35:25,791 I never ever, ever, ever heard a member of law enforcement 558 00:35:25,824 --> 00:35:26,758 call it a hate crime. 559 00:35:27,826 --> 00:35:30,496 This was a local crime. 560 00:35:30,529 --> 00:35:32,798 It didn't strike me that this was something 561 00:35:32,831 --> 00:35:35,301 the national news would be interested in. 562 00:35:41,273 --> 00:35:44,476 Aaron McKinney also had been transferred 563 00:35:44,510 --> 00:35:46,945 to Poudre Valley Hospital in Colorado 564 00:35:46,978 --> 00:35:48,814 as well as Matthew Shepard. 565 00:35:48,847 --> 00:35:50,982 Police waited for him to be released, 566 00:35:51,016 --> 00:35:52,551 and as soon as he was released, 567 00:35:52,584 --> 00:35:55,287 he agreed to be extradited back to Wyoming. 568 00:36:33,058 --> 00:36:35,093 Well, he basically said, 569 00:36:35,126 --> 00:36:36,462 "Yeah, it happened and... 570 00:36:36,495 --> 00:36:38,430 But here's what happened." 571 00:36:38,464 --> 00:36:42,401 They're kinda driving around and then they sort of go to the Fireside. 572 00:36:43,269 --> 00:36:44,870 And they are really short of cash. 573 00:36:46,938 --> 00:36:48,607 And they're using quarters, 574 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,277 nickels and dimes to buy a pitcher of beer, 575 00:36:51,277 --> 00:36:53,479 when they see this other person approach them. 576 00:37:03,188 --> 00:37:06,792 And they concoct this plan where they're gay 577 00:37:06,825 --> 00:37:08,627 and they'll try and get him to go with them. 578 00:37:21,307 --> 00:37:23,074 They leave the bar and get in the truck, 579 00:37:23,108 --> 00:37:25,311 which is Aaron's father's truck. 580 00:37:25,311 --> 00:37:28,213 Matthew is positioned in between them in the seat, 581 00:37:28,314 --> 00:37:31,750 sandwiched in between them, really, and Russell's driving. 582 00:37:52,504 --> 00:37:55,574 He was holding a gun at that time, 583 00:37:55,607 --> 00:37:57,776 'cause they were, you know, telling him he was gonna be robbed, 584 00:37:57,809 --> 00:37:59,878 and then Aaron took his wallet. 585 00:38:01,613 --> 00:38:03,114 Aaron has his gun out. 586 00:38:04,516 --> 00:38:06,585 It just doesn't make sense that Matthew 587 00:38:06,618 --> 00:38:09,888 would feel emboldened to make a pass at him. 588 00:38:14,092 --> 00:38:16,362 Aaron McKinney just started hitting him with a gun. 589 00:38:18,664 --> 00:38:20,031 He hit him in the face. 590 00:38:20,065 --> 00:38:22,434 He just whacked him. 591 00:38:26,438 --> 00:38:30,609 He explained that Russell drove them to the site, 592 00:38:31,877 --> 00:38:35,747 and then Russell tied him up. 593 00:38:38,850 --> 00:38:41,453 And then Aaron just started to hit him... 594 00:38:42,621 --> 00:38:45,090 And hit him and hit him. 595 00:38:47,125 --> 00:38:49,227 I'm sure he was terrified. 596 00:38:51,229 --> 00:38:53,932 I imagine you would be confused also, 597 00:38:53,965 --> 00:38:56,402 how could a scenario of just leaving the bar 598 00:38:56,402 --> 00:38:59,137 with someone escalate so quickly to this. 599 00:39:13,852 --> 00:39:15,654 Really went from a situation 600 00:39:15,687 --> 00:39:18,624 where it sounded like what they were intending to do was rob the young man, 601 00:39:18,657 --> 00:39:24,129 and just like that, it turned into something really catastrophic. 602 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:38,343 Aaron basically just unleashed on Matthew. 603 00:39:38,444 --> 00:39:41,112 He beat him brutally and repeatedly. 604 00:39:48,086 --> 00:39:50,522 Aaron admitted he just kinda went into a rage. 605 00:39:50,556 --> 00:39:53,892 He just started hitting him and hitting him and hitting him. 606 00:39:53,925 --> 00:39:56,327 And then Aaron took his shoes. 607 00:39:59,698 --> 00:40:01,967 Aaron tells the police after he was done 608 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,803 beating Matthew, he assumed Matthew was dead. 609 00:40:04,836 --> 00:40:06,605 He and Russell jumped back in the truck, 610 00:40:06,638 --> 00:40:08,440 drove back into town, 611 00:40:08,474 --> 00:40:10,008 potentially to get rid of the gun, 612 00:40:10,041 --> 00:40:12,478 and got in a fight. 613 00:40:12,511 --> 00:40:15,547 There is something of an ironic parallel 614 00:40:15,581 --> 00:40:17,315 in the fact that Aaron 615 00:40:17,348 --> 00:40:19,485 had just finished brutally beating someone 616 00:40:19,518 --> 00:40:21,119 and came into town 617 00:40:21,152 --> 00:40:23,154 and then got his own head cracked open. 618 00:40:25,791 --> 00:40:28,827 The thing in that interview that comes across 619 00:40:28,860 --> 00:40:30,862 is he was actually sort of nonchalant. 620 00:40:40,739 --> 00:40:43,241 And after the interview was done, 621 00:40:43,274 --> 00:40:47,145 he was charged with attempted first degree murder, 622 00:40:47,178 --> 00:40:50,048 kidnapping, and with aggravated robbery. 623 00:41:55,413 --> 00:41:59,317 An openly gay college student beaten and left to die 624 00:41:59,350 --> 00:42:01,119 clings to life in Wyoming this morning. 625 00:42:02,588 --> 00:42:05,123 I know that virtually no one in Laramie 626 00:42:05,156 --> 00:42:08,326 or in the state of Wyoming had any idea 627 00:42:08,359 --> 00:42:11,096 the media storm that was about to descend on them, 628 00:42:11,129 --> 00:42:13,999 or what a chord Matthew's story would strike 629 00:42:14,032 --> 00:42:16,101 at that particular moment in history. 630 00:42:16,134 --> 00:42:17,468 Matthew Shepard. 631 00:42:17,502 --> 00:42:18,670 Matthew Shepard. 632 00:42:18,704 --> 00:42:19,705 Matthew Shepard. 633 00:42:19,738 --> 00:42:21,506 Matthew Shepard. 634 00:42:21,607 --> 00:42:23,775 In the hours after Matthew was found, 635 00:42:23,809 --> 00:42:26,778 people learned Matthew Shepard's name. 636 00:42:26,812 --> 00:42:30,081 He became a national news story. 637 00:42:30,115 --> 00:42:32,784 It was a gruesome discovery at this fence, 638 00:42:32,818 --> 00:42:35,086 a gay man barely alive tonight 639 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,455 in a coma, brain damaged. 640 00:42:37,488 --> 00:42:39,157 It was everywhere. 641 00:42:39,190 --> 00:42:41,693 It was in every newspaper. It was on the news. 642 00:42:41,727 --> 00:42:44,730 Everyone's kind of like just watching and listening 643 00:42:44,763 --> 00:42:47,198 and hoping that he would live. 644 00:42:47,232 --> 00:42:50,001 Not in my wildest dreams would I expect 645 00:42:50,035 --> 00:42:52,470 that the New York Times and Newsweek, 646 00:42:52,503 --> 00:42:55,306 and CBS, ABC, NBC, 647 00:42:55,340 --> 00:42:57,843 CNN, all those people would be showing up 648 00:42:57,876 --> 00:43:01,747 in my community within roughly 24 hours. 649 00:43:01,780 --> 00:43:03,815 I'd never seen that before. 650 00:43:03,849 --> 00:43:05,450 A couple of things were going on 651 00:43:05,483 --> 00:43:08,920 in the hours after Matthew was found. 652 00:43:08,954 --> 00:43:13,258 There were many people who wanted Matthew's story known, 653 00:43:13,291 --> 00:43:16,027 because these murders had been going on for a long time. 654 00:43:17,095 --> 00:43:20,231 Matthew's friends and activists were reaching out 655 00:43:20,265 --> 00:43:23,434 to an existing infrastructure of gay rights, 656 00:43:23,468 --> 00:43:25,103 national organizations 657 00:43:25,136 --> 00:43:27,505 that then could amplify what happened. 658 00:43:27,538 --> 00:43:29,808 The National Gay and Lesbian Organization 659 00:43:29,841 --> 00:43:33,344 descended into Laramie, in particular, 660 00:43:33,378 --> 00:43:35,781 GLAD, the Gay and Lesbian Alliance against Defamation. 661 00:43:35,814 --> 00:43:37,716 Like, they're literally a media watchdog group. 662 00:43:37,749 --> 00:43:40,518 This is what they do. All they do at that time 663 00:43:40,551 --> 00:43:43,855 was watch the media and contact different members of the media 664 00:43:43,889 --> 00:43:47,225 about the stories and the reporting that they're doing. 665 00:43:47,258 --> 00:43:51,596 The only way change was gonna happen was to also use the media 666 00:43:51,697 --> 00:43:54,599 to amplify the story of what happened to Matthew. 667 00:43:54,700 --> 00:43:57,035 People aren't stupid. They're sophisticated about the media. 668 00:43:58,569 --> 00:44:01,306 People were calling the Campus Activity Center 669 00:44:01,339 --> 00:44:02,841 and leaving messages for me, 670 00:44:02,874 --> 00:44:05,977 Good Morning America and Dateline. 671 00:44:06,011 --> 00:44:09,614 The hate and violence must stop. 672 00:44:09,715 --> 00:44:12,784 It was kind of a scary and unique challenge 673 00:44:12,818 --> 00:44:16,054 all of a sudden to be asked to be the spokesperson 674 00:44:16,087 --> 00:44:18,890 for all gay people in Wyoming 675 00:44:18,924 --> 00:44:20,959 is the way it felt at the time. 676 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:35,741 My name is Nate Mickelson. 677 00:44:35,774 --> 00:44:37,475 I grew up in Kemmerer, Wyoming. 678 00:44:38,744 --> 00:44:40,345 It was pretty small, 679 00:44:40,378 --> 00:44:42,047 maybe about 3,000 people. 680 00:44:43,381 --> 00:44:46,584 You know, I thought I was the only gay person, 681 00:44:46,617 --> 00:44:49,087 but I was part of that community 682 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,758 and people cared for me no matter what was going on. 683 00:44:52,758 --> 00:44:55,761 I was at college. And when I heard about what happened to Matt, 684 00:44:55,794 --> 00:44:57,362 it really shocked me. 685 00:44:57,395 --> 00:45:00,298 You know, it wasn't a kind of Wyoming that I remembered. 686 00:45:00,331 --> 00:45:03,401 You know, it let me know that I wasn't as safe as I thought I had been. 687 00:45:03,434 --> 00:45:05,003 And I wasn't as safe 688 00:45:05,036 --> 00:45:07,105 growing up as I thought I had been. 689 00:45:10,041 --> 00:45:12,844 Welcome my buddy, Ellen DeGeneres. 690 00:45:12,878 --> 00:45:14,179 I was on my TV show. 691 00:45:14,212 --> 00:45:17,082 It was an incredibly turbulent time 692 00:45:17,115 --> 00:45:18,583 in my life and world. 693 00:45:18,616 --> 00:45:20,886 I remember the James Byrd situation, 694 00:45:20,919 --> 00:45:23,889 the same horror and hypocrisy 695 00:45:23,922 --> 00:45:26,792 and evil and systemic racism 696 00:45:26,825 --> 00:45:31,129 that allows a Black man to be lynched 697 00:45:31,162 --> 00:45:34,565 and feeling something has to be done, 698 00:45:34,599 --> 00:45:36,067 not knowing what to do. 699 00:45:36,101 --> 00:45:38,804 And then right on the heels of that, 700 00:45:38,804 --> 00:45:42,440 Matthew Shepard and feeling that same horror. 701 00:45:44,910 --> 00:45:46,845 I first heard about Matthew Shepard 702 00:45:46,878 --> 00:45:49,214 in my dorm room in New York, 703 00:45:50,115 --> 00:45:52,450 and there weren't a ton of details. 704 00:45:52,483 --> 00:45:56,354 Even though this happened thousands of miles from where we were, 705 00:45:56,387 --> 00:45:58,824 I think we all recognized 706 00:45:58,824 --> 00:46:01,559 pieces of ourselves in this story. 707 00:46:05,396 --> 00:46:07,866 In '98, I was in San Diego, California. 708 00:46:07,899 --> 00:46:08,967 I was in high school. 709 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,936 You know, I was still in the closet. 710 00:46:12,237 --> 00:46:15,473 And, you know, hearing about this awful, 711 00:46:15,506 --> 00:46:18,910 brutal crime was terrifying. 712 00:46:20,678 --> 00:46:23,048 It made me fearful 713 00:46:23,081 --> 00:46:24,883 to step toward coming out. 714 00:46:24,916 --> 00:46:26,651 It made me more fearful 715 00:46:26,684 --> 00:46:29,855 to embrace who I was 716 00:46:29,888 --> 00:46:33,291 because it reminded me how much hate there is out there. 717 00:46:33,324 --> 00:46:35,126 I spent a lot of time trying to convince 718 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:36,862 my mother in Nebraska 719 00:46:36,862 --> 00:46:38,864 that everything is still gonna be okay 720 00:46:38,864 --> 00:46:40,731 and that I could be safe 721 00:46:40,765 --> 00:46:43,534 and would be safe when in reality, 722 00:46:43,568 --> 00:46:44,569 I knew... 723 00:46:46,037 --> 00:46:47,973 that that might not always be the case. 724 00:46:49,174 --> 00:46:50,708 It was terrifying. It was... 725 00:46:50,741 --> 00:46:52,343 It was a terrifying realization. 726 00:46:53,979 --> 00:46:55,446 While all of this is going on, 727 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:56,948 Matthew is still in the hospital. 728 00:46:56,982 --> 00:46:59,417 His parents are there and they're just hoping 729 00:46:59,450 --> 00:47:00,285 that he's going to survive. 730 00:47:01,386 --> 00:47:03,221 We all watched what was happening with Matthew 731 00:47:03,254 --> 00:47:05,056 in the hospital and those days 732 00:47:05,090 --> 00:47:06,557 while he was trying to survive 733 00:47:06,591 --> 00:47:08,726 and we knew the likelihood of that. 734 00:47:08,759 --> 00:47:12,330 And yet everybody hoped, right? 735 00:47:38,823 --> 00:47:41,126 You know, people were critical of the community. 736 00:47:41,159 --> 00:47:42,961 Well, you know, the Wild West, 737 00:47:42,994 --> 00:47:44,930 you're probably pulling gay people off the street 738 00:47:44,930 --> 00:47:46,697 left and right and beating them, 739 00:47:46,731 --> 00:47:50,768 or this kind of thing probably happens in Laramie all the time. 740 00:47:52,403 --> 00:47:54,272 There was a real generalization 741 00:47:54,305 --> 00:47:56,574 about where Matthew was from 742 00:47:56,607 --> 00:48:00,411 and that maybe it wasn't surprising 743 00:48:00,445 --> 00:48:03,949 that a gay kid would have this... 744 00:48:03,982 --> 00:48:06,317 horrible crime happen to him 745 00:48:06,351 --> 00:48:08,453 in a rural area like that. 746 00:48:08,486 --> 00:48:13,158 That everyone from Wyoming was anti-LGBTQ, 747 00:48:13,191 --> 00:48:16,194 that we were all just a bunch 748 00:48:16,227 --> 00:48:19,664 of uneducated hicks who went around engaging 749 00:48:19,697 --> 00:48:22,767 in gay bashing or words to that effect. 750 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,470 I think Wyoming will always struggle 751 00:48:25,503 --> 00:48:28,506 with outsiders' perception of us, 752 00:48:28,539 --> 00:48:30,275 like, it was taught in our schools. 753 00:48:30,308 --> 00:48:33,344 It was preached from our pulpits, 754 00:48:33,378 --> 00:48:35,880 but it's not unique to Wyoming. 755 00:48:38,984 --> 00:48:41,987 People love to tell you 756 00:48:41,987 --> 00:48:45,223 "It would never happen in this great blue state that I live in." 757 00:48:45,256 --> 00:48:46,557 And they're full of. 758 00:48:56,201 --> 00:48:58,903 It was homecoming weekend for the University of Wyoming. 759 00:48:59,004 --> 00:49:02,640 And so normally, that's festive, right? 760 00:49:19,024 --> 00:49:22,260 And they were wearing yellow arm bands, you know, 761 00:49:22,293 --> 00:49:24,762 saying that hate is not a Laramie value. 762 00:49:24,795 --> 00:49:27,032 And it was just comforting to see that. 763 00:49:27,032 --> 00:49:29,767 And that you could see the same message 764 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,438 on the marquee out in front of the mom and pop hotels 765 00:49:33,471 --> 00:49:37,075 and Arby's national chain restaurants 766 00:49:37,108 --> 00:49:39,577 were putting signs up like that, too. 767 00:49:48,286 --> 00:49:51,322 I cannot begin to describe 768 00:49:51,356 --> 00:49:53,191 the difference that that made 769 00:49:53,224 --> 00:49:57,162 as a queer person in this town, 770 00:49:57,195 --> 00:49:59,297 knowing that there really were more people 771 00:49:59,330 --> 00:50:01,599 who had our back 772 00:50:02,533 --> 00:50:04,102 and had Matt's back. 773 00:50:06,271 --> 00:50:08,173 People were rooting for him. 774 00:50:08,206 --> 00:50:10,908 There were people who were praying for him to live. 775 00:50:10,941 --> 00:50:14,579 Like, it became this, "Can this underdog make it?" 776 00:50:27,525 --> 00:50:28,726 - Ready? - Yup. 777 00:50:31,196 --> 00:50:32,630 At 12:00 midnight 778 00:50:32,663 --> 00:50:36,601 on October 12th, 1998, 779 00:50:36,634 --> 00:50:39,537 Matthew Shepard's blood pressure began to drop. 780 00:50:40,905 --> 00:50:44,375 His condition continued to deteriorate. 781 00:50:45,543 --> 00:50:48,579 And at 12:53 a.m. this morning, 782 00:50:48,613 --> 00:50:49,780 Matthew Shepard died. 783 00:50:54,252 --> 00:50:57,255 Matthew's mother said to me, 784 00:50:57,288 --> 00:51:00,125 "Please tell everybody who's listening to go home. 785 00:51:00,158 --> 00:51:01,759 Give your kids a hug. 786 00:51:07,198 --> 00:51:08,899 And don't let a day go by 787 00:51:08,933 --> 00:51:11,669 without telling them that you love them." 788 00:51:14,705 --> 00:51:18,976 Even though it was something that for me, 789 00:51:19,009 --> 00:51:22,813 I had had kind of known was coming, 790 00:51:22,847 --> 00:51:25,283 it still was... 791 00:51:26,484 --> 00:51:28,686 that letdown, that... 792 00:51:29,954 --> 00:51:32,623 That air escaping your lungs in a way 793 00:51:32,657 --> 00:51:34,292 that you can't control. 794 00:51:35,593 --> 00:51:36,727 That... 795 00:51:38,463 --> 00:51:40,365 That last vain hope 796 00:51:40,398 --> 00:51:43,801 that well, gosh, maybe he'll wake up was gone. 797 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:49,374 I broke. 798 00:51:49,407 --> 00:51:50,808 I literally broke. 799 00:51:50,841 --> 00:51:53,077 All of a sudden, all of that grief 800 00:51:53,178 --> 00:51:56,847 and anger and sadness just rushed in 801 00:51:56,881 --> 00:51:58,916 and completely overtook me. 802 00:52:02,287 --> 00:52:05,356 I was very devastated 803 00:52:05,390 --> 00:52:07,592 by Matthew's death 804 00:52:07,625 --> 00:52:10,795 and didn't quite know what to do. 805 00:52:10,828 --> 00:52:14,632 My soul ate at human's ability 806 00:52:14,665 --> 00:52:16,601 to be cruel to another. 807 00:52:21,306 --> 00:52:23,208 Hearing about his death and processing it 808 00:52:23,208 --> 00:52:25,510 was even scarier because there wasn't anybody 809 00:52:25,543 --> 00:52:27,678 for me to relate to about it. 810 00:52:27,712 --> 00:52:29,214 I didn't have anybody to talk to about it. 811 00:52:29,247 --> 00:52:30,815 I just heard about it and I thought... 812 00:52:32,217 --> 00:52:34,919 "This is the world that I'm about to enter 813 00:52:34,952 --> 00:52:37,522 as an adult." And that scared me. 814 00:52:40,925 --> 00:52:43,127 My boyfriend has two kids 815 00:52:43,228 --> 00:52:45,996 and his daughter asked me what I was doing today. 816 00:52:46,030 --> 00:52:48,999 And I explained that I was going to do this documentary. 817 00:52:49,033 --> 00:52:51,702 And she asked me what it was about and I said, 818 00:52:51,736 --> 00:52:55,640 "Well, it's about a boy named Matthew Shepard who died." 819 00:52:57,908 --> 00:53:00,245 And she said, "Why did he die?" 820 00:53:00,278 --> 00:53:02,613 And I said, "Well, 'cause he was gay." 821 00:53:07,452 --> 00:53:11,856 And that was all I could think to say about it 822 00:53:11,889 --> 00:53:13,258 to a 10-year-old. 823 00:53:29,874 --> 00:53:31,942 After Matthew's death was announced, 824 00:53:32,877 --> 00:53:34,979 there was such an outpouring 825 00:53:35,012 --> 00:53:37,615 across the country with candlelight vigils 826 00:53:37,648 --> 00:53:40,451 in major cities and small towns. 827 00:53:40,485 --> 00:53:43,921 I was astonished by the outpouring of emotion. 828 00:53:44,989 --> 00:53:46,491 It broke everybody's heart. 829 00:53:46,524 --> 00:53:50,027 And I think finally people were starting to feel that, 830 00:53:50,060 --> 00:53:53,931 that no matter who you are, no matter what you identify as, 831 00:53:53,964 --> 00:53:55,866 no matter who you love, 832 00:53:55,900 --> 00:53:57,735 no one deserves to be treated that way. 833 00:54:01,306 --> 00:54:03,741 Matt's death was a rallying point. 834 00:54:03,774 --> 00:54:05,410 People were angry, 835 00:54:05,443 --> 00:54:07,645 viscerally angry about what was happening. 836 00:54:07,678 --> 00:54:11,449 Let us commit ourselves to transforming the anger 837 00:54:11,482 --> 00:54:14,719 of this march into sustained action. 838 00:54:14,752 --> 00:54:16,186 Let's move tonight. 839 00:54:16,220 --> 00:54:18,122 Let's move the country tonight. 840 00:54:18,155 --> 00:54:19,457 Yeah. 841 00:54:19,490 --> 00:54:22,827 I am so... pissed off. 842 00:54:27,932 --> 00:54:29,467 I can't stop crying. 843 00:54:30,935 --> 00:54:33,971 Here is an example. This young kid minding his own business 844 00:54:34,004 --> 00:54:36,807 gets murdered for no other reason than he was gay. 845 00:54:36,841 --> 00:54:39,644 It was so sensational. The story was so strong. 846 00:54:39,677 --> 00:54:41,912 And it was so clear what had happened 847 00:54:41,946 --> 00:54:45,583 that you couldn't deny it any further. 848 00:54:45,616 --> 00:54:48,853 The determination we have 849 00:54:48,886 --> 00:54:50,688 will not diminish. 850 00:54:50,721 --> 00:54:53,791 We still have a long way to go 851 00:54:53,824 --> 00:54:56,260 in our nation to make sure 852 00:54:56,361 --> 00:54:59,497 that hatred and intolerance 853 00:54:59,530 --> 00:55:02,066 are banished from our country. 854 00:55:02,099 --> 00:55:04,502 It was astonishing. 855 00:55:05,570 --> 00:55:07,838 The only time I can recall before that 856 00:55:07,872 --> 00:55:11,376 where there was that kind of outpouring of emotion and rage 857 00:55:11,409 --> 00:55:14,845 was when Harvey Milk was assassinated in 1978. 858 00:55:14,879 --> 00:55:17,915 We must do more 859 00:55:17,948 --> 00:55:21,051 to deal with violent bigotry. 860 00:55:22,887 --> 00:55:24,755 Even though Matthew had died 861 00:55:24,789 --> 00:55:26,591 from an anti-gay hate crime, 862 00:55:26,624 --> 00:55:28,393 most of us were pretty naive 863 00:55:28,426 --> 00:55:30,428 about what anti-gay hate looked like. 864 00:55:35,900 --> 00:55:38,403 - He's the one that said he was a fag. I didn't. - Yeah. 865 00:55:38,436 --> 00:55:40,270 When we found out that this guy, 866 00:55:40,304 --> 00:55:42,507 Fred Phelps, from the Westboro Baptist Church 867 00:55:42,540 --> 00:55:44,675 was coming to the funeral, 868 00:55:44,709 --> 00:55:47,244 it struck us as very odd. 869 00:55:47,277 --> 00:55:50,581 Like, why would someone come protest at a funeral? 870 00:55:50,615 --> 00:55:52,717 I had never heard of Fred Phelps before. 871 00:55:53,951 --> 00:55:56,521 Fred Phelps coined the catchphrase, 872 00:55:56,554 --> 00:55:58,823 "God hates fags," and was just known 873 00:55:58,856 --> 00:56:02,126 for some really vulgar and awful anti-gay rhetoric. 874 00:56:03,894 --> 00:56:06,497 It was just like how much more horrific 875 00:56:06,531 --> 00:56:08,933 could a group of people become? 876 00:56:08,966 --> 00:56:10,435 This seems like the right time 877 00:56:10,435 --> 00:56:14,138 to target this family, 878 00:56:14,171 --> 00:56:16,441 ruining this event that should've been 879 00:56:16,474 --> 00:56:20,545 a very somber, very respectful day. 880 00:56:20,578 --> 00:56:22,079 It's really shocking. 881 00:56:22,112 --> 00:56:23,881 Have you ever been to a fag parade? 882 00:56:23,914 --> 00:56:25,149 We didn't force a fag... 883 00:56:25,182 --> 00:56:27,452 Him and his family are holding up these signs 884 00:56:27,452 --> 00:56:29,053 like "Matt in hell" 885 00:56:29,086 --> 00:56:30,888 and "AIDS kills fags" 886 00:56:30,921 --> 00:56:33,223 and just like horrible, hateful crap, right? 887 00:56:33,257 --> 00:56:34,792 You'll go to hell. 888 00:56:34,825 --> 00:56:36,260 You'll go to hell just like Matthew Shepard 889 00:56:36,293 --> 00:56:37,895 for the hell he did before he died. 890 00:56:37,928 --> 00:56:41,666 Romaine and I knew that we had to respond to that. 891 00:56:41,699 --> 00:56:44,134 We knew that it was probable that Phelps 892 00:56:44,168 --> 00:56:47,337 and his group would come back at some point. 893 00:56:47,371 --> 00:56:49,139 We felt that it was important for us 894 00:56:49,173 --> 00:56:50,541 to send a message 895 00:56:50,575 --> 00:56:52,242 that we don't agree with that. 896 00:56:52,276 --> 00:56:54,712 That sort of thing is not welcome here. 897 00:56:54,745 --> 00:56:57,147 We knew we had to block them out. 898 00:56:57,181 --> 00:56:59,484 We wanted to block out Fred Phelps and all their horrible signs 899 00:56:59,517 --> 00:57:01,218 so that Judy and Dennis would never have 900 00:57:01,251 --> 00:57:02,186 to look at their ugly faces. 901 00:57:04,021 --> 00:57:04,855 I had a plan. 902 00:57:16,534 --> 00:57:18,803 In the in-between period 903 00:57:18,836 --> 00:57:20,638 between Matthew's memorial service 904 00:57:20,671 --> 00:57:22,540 and then what was supposed to be a hearing, 905 00:57:22,573 --> 00:57:24,341 really, for Russell Henderson, 906 00:57:24,374 --> 00:57:26,577 the world was crazy. 907 00:57:26,611 --> 00:57:29,079 Those of us who were actively 908 00:57:29,113 --> 00:57:30,681 still doing interviews, 909 00:57:30,715 --> 00:57:32,883 we talked to Matthew's parents 910 00:57:32,917 --> 00:57:35,219 and asked what they wanted us to say 911 00:57:35,252 --> 00:57:37,522 because that was important. You know, we wanted to make sure 912 00:57:37,522 --> 00:57:40,558 we were doing right, not only by Matthew, but by Judy and Dennis. 913 00:57:40,591 --> 00:57:42,760 We never stopped. It never stopped. 914 00:57:42,793 --> 00:57:45,095 There was definitely, you know, significant work 915 00:57:45,129 --> 00:57:47,231 happening with law enforcement 916 00:57:47,264 --> 00:57:50,367 and the court case, you know, the county attorney's office. 917 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,070 A lot of motions clarified in that time 918 00:57:53,103 --> 00:57:55,540 that this was going to be a death penalty case. 919 00:57:55,573 --> 00:57:57,708 They had to separate the two cases, 920 00:57:57,742 --> 00:57:59,544 so they weren't gonna be tried together. 921 00:58:07,818 --> 00:58:12,156 About a week prior to Russell Henderson's trial, 922 00:58:12,189 --> 00:58:14,191 Jim Osborn calls me and he says, 923 00:58:14,224 --> 00:58:16,226 "Fred Phelps is coming to Laramie for the trials." 924 00:58:16,260 --> 00:58:17,895 And I said, "Great." 925 00:58:17,928 --> 00:58:19,764 The issue and turn the country over 926 00:58:19,797 --> 00:58:22,332 to these militant sodomites. 927 00:58:22,366 --> 00:58:24,869 The whole exterior of the courthouse 928 00:58:24,902 --> 00:58:26,837 was surrounded by media people. 929 00:58:26,871 --> 00:58:28,573 There had to have been like ten or fifteen 930 00:58:28,606 --> 00:58:30,775 satellite trucks, hundreds of reporters. 931 00:58:30,808 --> 00:58:32,943 It was madness. 932 00:58:32,977 --> 00:58:35,212 And they're all focused in on Fred Phelps 933 00:58:35,245 --> 00:58:36,847 and his horrible anti-gay crap. 934 00:58:36,881 --> 00:58:39,584 In any nation that agrees that it's okay to be gay 935 00:58:39,584 --> 00:58:42,319 will go the way of ancient Sodom. 936 00:58:42,352 --> 00:58:44,021 And then all of a sudden, this band of angels 937 00:58:44,054 --> 00:58:45,355 comes walking down the street and they're like, 938 00:58:45,389 --> 00:58:46,857 "What the hell is this?" 939 00:58:46,891 --> 00:58:48,593 And like the parting of the Red Sea, 940 00:58:48,626 --> 00:58:49,459 they all make way. 941 00:58:51,962 --> 00:58:54,832 Yes. 942 00:58:54,865 --> 00:58:56,734 And we surround Fred Phelps, 943 00:58:56,767 --> 00:58:58,903 we turn our backs to him, and now we're angels. 944 00:59:00,170 --> 00:59:02,607 We didn't wanna let that kind of hatred 945 00:59:02,607 --> 00:59:05,910 and bigotry come into our community unchallenged. 946 00:59:07,878 --> 00:59:09,614 And it worked very well. 947 00:59:09,614 --> 00:59:10,848 Fred Phelps can no longer talk to people. 948 00:59:10,881 --> 00:59:12,316 He can no longer yell at people. 949 00:59:12,349 --> 00:59:13,618 So, they just started singing hymnals. 950 00:59:13,618 --> 00:59:15,219 And now there's angels with floaty wings, 951 00:59:15,252 --> 00:59:17,454 listening to, you know, beautiful hymns 952 00:59:17,487 --> 00:59:21,458 and it was serene and surreal and just wild. 953 00:59:25,896 --> 00:59:29,433 Russell Henderson's public defender, Wyatt Skaggs, 954 00:59:29,466 --> 00:59:31,802 had a number of death penalty cases 955 00:59:31,836 --> 00:59:34,639 and he really didn't want anything to go to trial. 956 00:59:34,672 --> 00:59:37,207 And he saw the evidence. He knew what they had. 957 00:59:37,241 --> 00:59:40,044 Really worked tirelessly, since this case began 958 00:59:40,077 --> 00:59:42,379 with one goal in mind. 959 00:59:42,412 --> 00:59:44,248 And that was to save Russell's life. 960 01:00:16,113 --> 01:00:19,483 Judge Donnell just said this was a horrific murder. 961 01:00:19,516 --> 01:00:21,318 When you look at all the facts in the case, 962 01:00:21,351 --> 01:00:23,420 there's just no way he should be out in public. 963 01:00:23,453 --> 01:00:26,256 And he gave him, you know, the consecutive sentences. 964 01:00:26,290 --> 01:00:27,792 And so he's in for life. 965 01:00:29,193 --> 01:00:32,262 Chasity Pasley, who was Russell's girlfriend, 966 01:00:32,296 --> 01:00:36,801 got sentenced to about a year and a half in prison. 967 01:00:36,834 --> 01:00:38,903 Aaron McKinney's girlfriend, Kristen Price, 968 01:00:38,936 --> 01:00:41,538 ended up not ever serving any time, 969 01:00:41,571 --> 01:00:44,742 other than her initial arrest time that she had 970 01:00:44,775 --> 01:00:47,077 and just kind of moved on with her life. 971 01:00:53,784 --> 01:00:57,454 With those three out of the way, it became the trial. 972 01:00:57,487 --> 01:01:00,624 Aaron McKinney, he was facing the death penalty. 973 01:01:00,657 --> 01:01:02,459 And that was the main event 974 01:01:02,492 --> 01:01:04,061 that everyone had been waiting for. 975 01:01:20,745 --> 01:01:22,813 There was a couple of things still at play 976 01:01:22,847 --> 01:01:25,382 that this was just a robbery gone bad 977 01:01:25,415 --> 01:01:28,853 and this had nothing to do with hate crimes. 978 01:01:28,886 --> 01:01:32,089 But this was a hate crime, no doubt about it. 979 01:01:33,423 --> 01:01:36,160 But one of the things that the defense did 980 01:01:36,193 --> 01:01:38,562 is they used the gay panic defense 981 01:01:38,595 --> 01:01:40,397 that none of this would've happened 982 01:01:40,430 --> 01:01:42,767 if Matthew Shepard didn't reach at his groin 983 01:01:42,767 --> 01:01:46,436 and touch him there, and that caused him to snap. 984 01:01:46,470 --> 01:01:49,239 Gay panic defense is meant to say 985 01:01:49,273 --> 01:01:53,510 that someone's gay or queer or trans identity 986 01:01:53,543 --> 01:01:56,513 is reason enough to harm them, 987 01:01:56,546 --> 01:01:59,616 that that is something violent and threatening 988 01:01:59,649 --> 01:02:02,820 and is legally permissible 989 01:02:02,853 --> 01:02:04,789 to take violent action towards them. 990 01:02:05,856 --> 01:02:07,657 It wasn't the first time. 991 01:02:07,691 --> 01:02:10,527 There have been a number of occasions in the past 992 01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,798 and about 30% of the cases where this defense was used, 993 01:02:13,798 --> 01:02:15,399 people got a reduced sentence. 994 01:02:20,370 --> 01:02:23,373 And one of the things that the defense also did 995 01:02:23,407 --> 01:02:25,709 is they used the fact that Aaron McKinney 996 01:02:25,810 --> 01:02:29,814 was a victim of sexual abuse as a child. 997 01:02:29,814 --> 01:02:32,016 They need to explain that he's got some 998 01:02:32,049 --> 01:02:34,584 very raw emotions about this, 999 01:02:34,618 --> 01:02:37,354 and if somebody is making a move on him, 1000 01:02:37,387 --> 01:02:39,389 that's gonna trigger some things 1001 01:02:39,423 --> 01:02:42,993 and lead to this beating, lead to this attack. 1002 01:02:43,027 --> 01:02:44,862 There were plenty of people who believed 1003 01:02:44,895 --> 01:02:47,832 that Matthew Shepard as a gay man 1004 01:02:47,865 --> 01:02:49,333 got what he deserved. 1005 01:02:49,366 --> 01:02:52,269 I really do think that the McKinney crowd 1006 01:02:52,302 --> 01:02:54,138 thought that that would work, 1007 01:02:54,171 --> 01:02:55,973 and I was bracing for it. 1008 01:03:04,248 --> 01:03:07,251 Soon as the gay panic defense came up, 1009 01:03:07,284 --> 01:03:08,685 the prosecutor objected. 1010 01:03:08,718 --> 01:03:10,287 Well, I think that is a defense 1011 01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,957 that is atrocious, that should not be used 1012 01:03:12,990 --> 01:03:16,593 in any situation, 1013 01:03:16,626 --> 01:03:18,362 in any court in these United States. 1014 01:03:18,395 --> 01:03:20,898 It gives people the excuse 1015 01:03:20,931 --> 01:03:22,532 to hurt or to kill another person. 1016 01:03:49,626 --> 01:03:51,195 The ruling comes as a relief 1017 01:03:51,228 --> 01:03:53,097 to those who support Shepard's family 1018 01:03:53,130 --> 01:03:55,365 and those who support gay issues. 1019 01:03:55,399 --> 01:03:59,003 Even if Matthew made a pass at Aaron McKinney, 1020 01:03:59,036 --> 01:04:02,472 all he had to say was, "No, thank you," 1021 01:04:02,506 --> 01:04:05,809 which is what women have had to say over and over again 1022 01:04:05,910 --> 01:04:07,644 because men make unwanted passes. 1023 01:04:07,677 --> 01:04:09,113 He didn't have to beat him to death 1024 01:04:09,146 --> 01:04:10,280 with the butt of a gun. 1025 01:04:10,314 --> 01:04:11,916 It's a pathetic defense. 1026 01:04:11,916 --> 01:04:13,650 The gay panic defense 1027 01:04:13,683 --> 01:04:16,020 is the perfect articulation 1028 01:04:16,053 --> 01:04:19,723 of how profoundly we blamed the victims 1029 01:04:19,756 --> 01:04:23,227 of homophobic and transphobic crime. 1030 01:04:27,731 --> 01:04:29,666 Jury found Aaron McKinney guilty 1031 01:04:29,699 --> 01:04:31,268 of two counts of murder 1032 01:04:31,301 --> 01:04:33,971 plus aggravated robbery and kidnapping. 1033 01:04:34,004 --> 01:04:37,041 The verdicts came after just 10 hours of deliberation. 1034 01:04:37,074 --> 01:04:40,577 And then we were all gearing up for what we expected to be 1035 01:04:40,610 --> 01:04:43,713 a pretty good death penalty discussion. 1036 01:04:43,747 --> 01:04:45,615 And then out of nowhere, it was announced that 1037 01:04:45,649 --> 01:04:47,484 that's not what was gonna happen. 1038 01:04:47,517 --> 01:04:49,987 After being approached by defense attorneys, 1039 01:04:50,020 --> 01:04:53,057 the Shepards recommended McKinney be given life 1040 01:04:53,090 --> 01:04:56,860 rather than death in memory of their son. 1041 01:04:56,961 --> 01:04:58,963 In an emotional address to the court, 1042 01:04:58,963 --> 01:05:00,797 Dennis Shepard told McKinney, 1043 01:05:00,830 --> 01:05:03,600 "You robbed me of something very precious. 1044 01:05:03,633 --> 01:05:06,636 Mr. McKinney, I give you life 1045 01:05:06,670 --> 01:05:09,974 in the memory of one who no longer lives. 1046 01:05:09,974 --> 01:05:11,976 May you have a long life 1047 01:05:12,009 --> 01:05:15,412 and may you thank Matthew every day for it." 1048 01:05:17,081 --> 01:05:20,384 I was so moved by his words and his compassion 1049 01:05:20,417 --> 01:05:22,352 and his ability to forgive. 1050 01:05:22,386 --> 01:05:25,589 And I thought, this is the dawning of something new. 1051 01:05:28,725 --> 01:05:32,362 After Matthew's death, there was so much organizing 1052 01:05:32,396 --> 01:05:34,331 and so much forward momentum 1053 01:05:34,364 --> 01:05:39,003 and so many public demands for legislation 1054 01:05:39,603 --> 01:05:41,271 for hate crimes. 1055 01:05:42,406 --> 01:05:46,276 Very quickly, the President took up this cause. 1056 01:05:46,310 --> 01:05:49,313 And I think that in part, that's because the country 1057 01:05:49,346 --> 01:05:51,648 was ready to have the conversation. 1058 01:05:51,681 --> 01:05:53,783 Hate crimes laws had been proposed 1059 01:05:53,817 --> 01:05:57,087 in Congress multiple times and failed multiple times. 1060 01:05:57,121 --> 01:06:01,158 This was not something that had never been discussed before. 1061 01:06:01,191 --> 01:06:03,860 The Hate Crimes Prevention Act would be important 1062 01:06:04,028 --> 01:06:06,930 substantively and symbolically 1063 01:06:07,031 --> 01:06:10,300 to send a message to ourselves and to the world 1064 01:06:10,334 --> 01:06:13,170 that we are going into the 21st century 1065 01:06:13,203 --> 01:06:17,674 determined to preach and to practice what is right. 1066 01:06:17,707 --> 01:06:20,210 It also wasn't surprising to me that ultimately 1067 01:06:20,244 --> 01:06:22,446 that legislation died in committee 1068 01:06:22,479 --> 01:06:24,181 because they weren't so quick 1069 01:06:24,214 --> 01:06:25,949 to pick up the ball and run with it. 1070 01:06:40,397 --> 01:06:42,766 I think the Matthew Shepard Foundation 1071 01:06:42,799 --> 01:06:46,370 is one of the really important things 1072 01:06:46,403 --> 01:06:48,205 to come out of Matthew's death. 1073 01:07:09,293 --> 01:07:11,528 There is no excuse for what happened to Matthew 1074 01:07:11,561 --> 01:07:13,997 and something needs to be done to curb 1075 01:07:14,098 --> 01:07:17,101 this hatred that seems to be permeating society. 1076 01:07:17,101 --> 01:07:20,404 Which ultimately, becomes this incredible mission 1077 01:07:20,437 --> 01:07:24,108 of erasing hate through legislation. 1078 01:07:24,108 --> 01:07:25,275 We're gonna go ahead and get started. 1079 01:07:31,448 --> 01:07:33,150 Down this dirt road, 1080 01:07:33,183 --> 01:07:35,352 Byrd was murdered early Sunday morning. 1081 01:07:35,385 --> 01:07:37,621 The killers left a trail of blood 1082 01:07:37,654 --> 01:07:40,757 and the trail of evidence as they drove along this road. 1083 01:07:40,790 --> 01:07:43,893 The combination of the horrific racism 1084 01:07:43,927 --> 01:07:46,930 of James Byrd's death and the homophobia 1085 01:07:46,963 --> 01:07:50,567 in Matthew's, I think are forever linked. 1086 01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:53,803 They're forever linked emotionally and morally. 1087 01:07:53,837 --> 01:07:58,408 They're evils of the... Of the same pile, 1088 01:07:58,442 --> 01:08:02,412 you know, and that they're linked together as we all, 1089 01:08:02,446 --> 01:08:05,582 you know, move forward for equality in this country. 1090 01:08:05,615 --> 01:08:07,784 This is an issue we couldn't let go by. 1091 01:08:07,817 --> 01:08:09,619 I have a window of opportunity here 1092 01:08:09,653 --> 01:08:11,155 that I wanna take advantage of. 1093 01:08:29,973 --> 01:08:31,608 All of a sudden, 1094 01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,178 this tremendous responsibility fell upon her. 1095 01:08:34,178 --> 01:08:35,779 She doesn't like crowds, 1096 01:08:35,812 --> 01:08:37,546 she doesn't like being in front of people, 1097 01:08:37,581 --> 01:08:39,383 and yet despite all of that, 1098 01:08:40,716 --> 01:08:43,187 she continued to do it day after day. 1099 01:08:44,254 --> 01:08:46,055 When I think about 1100 01:08:46,089 --> 01:08:48,358 how she responded to it, 1101 01:08:48,392 --> 01:08:50,560 if you don't have respect for that woman, 1102 01:08:50,594 --> 01:08:53,062 you don't even know the meaning of the work. 1103 01:08:53,095 --> 01:08:56,200 Today's hearing is a very important one 1104 01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:59,736 and focuses on the serious problem of hate crimes. 1105 01:08:59,769 --> 01:09:02,971 Think of the incidence of recent violent crimes 1106 01:09:03,006 --> 01:09:05,209 that are motivated by hate and bigotry 1107 01:09:05,242 --> 01:09:08,077 and how they've seared the conscience of this country. 1108 01:09:08,111 --> 01:09:10,880 And so people were like, "Let's talk about this. 1109 01:09:10,913 --> 01:09:14,082 Let's talk about it right now, because if we don't, 1110 01:09:14,117 --> 01:09:17,654 this is gonna continue to happen and we cannot afford that." 1111 01:09:17,687 --> 01:09:21,291 It took society, I think, a while to understand 1112 01:09:21,325 --> 01:09:24,961 what it is to protect minorities in this country 1113 01:09:24,993 --> 01:09:28,398 who don't often have a voice socially or politically, 1114 01:09:28,432 --> 01:09:32,868 and who get demonized and treated as less than. 1115 01:09:35,671 --> 01:09:39,676 The fact that this legislation exists 1116 01:09:39,709 --> 01:09:42,246 highlights these crimes 1117 01:09:42,246 --> 01:09:45,014 as something other than just a murder. 1118 01:09:45,048 --> 01:09:47,082 These are committed specifically 1119 01:09:47,116 --> 01:09:49,786 because the individual committing the crime 1120 01:09:49,819 --> 01:09:51,621 hates that person 1121 01:09:51,654 --> 01:09:54,258 because of who they are, fundamentally. 1122 01:09:54,258 --> 01:09:57,026 We were just asking to not be murdered. 1123 01:09:57,060 --> 01:09:59,363 It is the most modest of requests. 1124 01:10:00,397 --> 01:10:03,667 Hate crimes have no place in America. 1125 01:10:08,305 --> 01:10:11,007 In 2007, a version of the Matthew Shepard 1126 01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:13,877 Hate Crimes Act was reintroduced to the Senate. 1127 01:10:13,910 --> 01:10:15,345 It passed the house... 1128 01:10:15,379 --> 01:10:19,015 On this bill, the yays are 237. 1129 01:10:19,048 --> 01:10:20,917 The nays are 180. 1130 01:10:20,950 --> 01:10:22,151 The bill is passed. 1131 01:10:24,454 --> 01:10:27,924 It was attached to the Defense Authorization Act. 1132 01:10:27,957 --> 01:10:30,059 President Bush said he would veto 1133 01:10:30,093 --> 01:10:32,161 the Defense Authorization Act, however, 1134 01:10:32,195 --> 01:10:35,031 if this Hate Crimes Act was attached to it. 1135 01:10:35,064 --> 01:10:36,466 So ultimately it was removed 1136 01:10:36,500 --> 01:10:38,167 from the Defense Authorization Act 1137 01:10:38,201 --> 01:10:39,536 and it died on the floor. 1138 01:10:42,472 --> 01:10:44,107 If you track the trajectory 1139 01:10:44,140 --> 01:10:46,910 of the hate crimes being introduced, 1140 01:10:46,943 --> 01:10:48,378 there's something really instructive 1141 01:10:48,412 --> 01:10:50,747 about what our movement, right? 1142 01:10:50,780 --> 01:10:53,182 Like advocating for the full 1143 01:10:53,216 --> 01:10:55,952 dignity and health of LGBTQ people, 1144 01:10:55,985 --> 01:10:58,355 what we learned in the process, 1145 01:10:58,388 --> 01:11:02,058 once we sort of coalesced around like the love 1146 01:11:02,091 --> 01:11:06,330 is love message that helped progress us. 1147 01:11:17,674 --> 01:11:20,877 And it haunts me to this day, 1148 01:11:22,446 --> 01:11:25,081 to think about how many times 1149 01:11:25,114 --> 01:11:28,151 she has bared her soul and her pain 1150 01:11:28,985 --> 01:11:30,920 for the benefit of others. 1151 01:11:33,122 --> 01:11:36,360 How many hearts she has changed. 1152 01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:38,895 How many minds she has expanded. 1153 01:11:43,933 --> 01:11:47,904 Thank you so much and welcome to the White House. 1154 01:11:55,111 --> 01:11:57,381 You know, as a nation, we've come far 1155 01:11:57,381 --> 01:12:00,149 on the journey towards a more perfect union, 1156 01:12:00,183 --> 01:12:02,386 and today we've taken another step forward. 1157 01:12:02,386 --> 01:12:04,388 This afternoon I signed into law 1158 01:12:04,388 --> 01:12:06,956 the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. 1159 01:12:06,990 --> 01:12:10,394 Hate Crimes Prevention Act. 1160 01:12:10,394 --> 01:12:12,429 It took 11 years from Matthew's murder 1161 01:12:12,462 --> 01:12:15,131 to get hate crimes legislation signed, 1162 01:12:15,164 --> 01:12:19,403 that seemed quick to me for legislation 1163 01:12:19,436 --> 01:12:22,939 covering something that's as potentially controversial 1164 01:12:22,972 --> 01:12:27,243 as protecting gay people and others 1165 01:12:27,276 --> 01:12:29,479 from hate crimes. 1166 01:13:01,945 --> 01:13:03,346 I was shocked 1167 01:13:03,447 --> 01:13:05,449 and, uh... 1168 01:13:08,952 --> 01:13:12,088 And moved to tears then and again now. 1169 01:13:12,121 --> 01:13:14,724 There is something 1170 01:13:14,758 --> 01:13:16,460 so important about knowing 1171 01:13:16,460 --> 01:13:20,797 that your government, my government cares about me. 1172 01:13:22,499 --> 01:13:24,501 What that started to set up was awareness 1173 01:13:24,534 --> 01:13:26,703 for equal rights legislation. 1174 01:13:26,736 --> 01:13:29,272 And it started something. 1175 01:13:29,305 --> 01:13:33,142 It started the country taking this seriously 1176 01:13:33,176 --> 01:13:36,546 and trying to protect us as members of the country. 1177 01:13:38,381 --> 01:13:40,183 What happened to Matthew Shepard 1178 01:13:40,216 --> 01:13:42,018 was a key turning point. 1179 01:13:42,051 --> 01:13:43,853 The legislation that was passed ultimately 1180 01:13:43,887 --> 01:13:46,022 because of his murder is very important 1181 01:13:46,055 --> 01:13:47,991 for our community. 1182 01:13:48,024 --> 01:13:50,960 I think a lot of us thought that it was over, 1183 01:13:50,994 --> 01:13:53,563 that we didn't have to fight anymore, 1184 01:13:53,597 --> 01:13:55,264 that we were accepted. 1185 01:13:55,298 --> 01:13:59,235 We were so wrong on so many levels. 1186 01:14:03,740 --> 01:14:07,043 The years following the signing of federal hate crimes legislation 1187 01:14:07,076 --> 01:14:09,245 felt like an almost golden age. 1188 01:14:11,314 --> 01:14:15,184 We were starting to feel like we're actually gonna live 1189 01:14:15,218 --> 01:14:17,153 in a country that welcomes us. 1190 01:14:17,186 --> 01:14:19,823 We were in a great place. 1191 01:14:19,856 --> 01:14:22,058 There was not really a worry or a concern 1192 01:14:22,091 --> 01:14:24,360 when we woke up in the morning about, you know, 1193 01:14:24,393 --> 01:14:27,063 having to put on extra armor or the shield, right? 1194 01:14:27,096 --> 01:14:29,533 I mean, we felt freer. 1195 01:14:29,566 --> 01:14:31,535 It created this feeling of momentum 1196 01:14:31,535 --> 01:14:33,603 and this feeling of like, we finally figured out 1197 01:14:33,637 --> 01:14:35,805 as a country how to like, 1198 01:14:35,839 --> 01:14:37,874 make people feel included 1199 01:14:37,907 --> 01:14:40,209 and to like celebrate difference. 1200 01:14:45,849 --> 01:14:47,717 This morning, I am proud 1201 01:14:48,818 --> 01:14:51,354 to sign a law that will bring an end 1202 01:14:51,387 --> 01:14:52,989 to Don't Ask, Don't Tell. 1203 01:15:01,898 --> 01:15:04,133 And in 2015 when the Supreme Court 1204 01:15:04,167 --> 01:15:05,702 ruled on marriage equality, 1205 01:15:05,735 --> 01:15:08,171 and then same-sex marriage 1206 01:15:08,204 --> 01:15:10,039 was legal across the land. 1207 01:15:12,008 --> 01:15:15,378 The ban on gay adoption was, you know, dropped. 1208 01:15:15,411 --> 01:15:17,947 And so all of a sudden, our whole family structure, 1209 01:15:17,981 --> 01:15:21,117 which had been illegal in this country 1210 01:15:21,150 --> 01:15:24,220 and in this state, was now a thing of the past. 1211 01:15:24,253 --> 01:15:26,122 So we were legally married in the state of Florida. 1212 01:15:26,155 --> 01:15:28,191 We could now legally adopt children 1213 01:15:28,224 --> 01:15:30,426 in the state of Florida. 1214 01:15:30,459 --> 01:15:33,029 This wonderful glow of being, you know, new dads. 1215 01:15:33,062 --> 01:15:34,831 -I loved every minute of it. -Yeah. It was... 1216 01:15:35,464 --> 01:15:37,300 It was amazing. 1217 01:15:37,333 --> 01:15:39,202 Um, it was amazing. 1218 01:15:40,670 --> 01:15:42,105 It was a step in the right direction. 1219 01:15:42,138 --> 01:15:43,607 It was a step in acceptance. 1220 01:15:45,074 --> 01:15:46,910 And I let my guard down thinking that 1221 01:15:46,943 --> 01:15:48,712 things are only gonna get better. 1222 01:15:48,745 --> 01:15:50,479 And I've lived long enough to see 1223 01:15:50,513 --> 01:15:54,117 multiple... waves 1224 01:15:54,150 --> 01:15:57,186 of progress and backlash. 1225 01:15:57,220 --> 01:15:59,155 Should have seen it coming, and I didn't. 1226 01:16:04,427 --> 01:16:06,462 Election night, 1227 01:16:06,495 --> 01:16:10,199 the election night of 2016, 1228 01:16:10,233 --> 01:16:12,401 I am devastated because I don't know 1229 01:16:12,435 --> 01:16:14,303 what this means for my family. 1230 01:16:14,337 --> 01:16:17,974 I remember people that were supporting 1231 01:16:18,007 --> 01:16:20,276 of the then president, 1232 01:16:20,309 --> 01:16:22,979 "Oh, they're not... Nothing's gonna change." 1233 01:16:23,012 --> 01:16:24,047 -Mmm-hmm. -They're not gonna... 1234 01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:25,114 They're not gonna touch 1235 01:16:25,148 --> 01:16:26,750 any LGBTQ rights. 1236 01:16:26,783 --> 01:16:29,552 And I'm like, "You're naive." 1237 01:16:29,653 --> 01:16:33,657 I, Donald John Trump, do solemnly swear. 1238 01:16:33,657 --> 01:16:37,426 I knew this was a potentially very dark time ahead. 1239 01:16:37,460 --> 01:16:39,362 The furies had been unleashed. 1240 01:16:39,395 --> 01:16:41,831 Trump! Trump! Trump! 1241 01:16:41,865 --> 01:16:43,700 With a backlash 1242 01:16:43,733 --> 01:16:45,735 that I couldn't have imagined. 1243 01:16:45,769 --> 01:16:48,071 They are worthy of death. 1244 01:16:48,104 --> 01:16:51,307 These people should be put to death. 1245 01:16:51,340 --> 01:16:54,343 2016 began with the bathroom bill 1246 01:16:54,377 --> 01:16:57,146 that was North Carolina's legislation 1247 01:16:57,180 --> 01:17:00,083 to prevent trans-students from using the bathroom 1248 01:17:00,116 --> 01:17:01,951 that aligned with their gender identity. 1249 01:17:01,985 --> 01:17:04,253 My name is Erin Reed. I use she/her pronouns. 1250 01:17:04,287 --> 01:17:06,255 I'm a queer legislative researcher 1251 01:17:06,289 --> 01:17:08,091 and activist, and a content creator. 1252 01:17:08,124 --> 01:17:10,426 Those of us who are active in the LGBTQ community 1253 01:17:10,459 --> 01:17:12,461 and in LGBTQ rights 1254 01:17:12,495 --> 01:17:15,398 had a lot of fear that our rights would be curtailed. 1255 01:17:15,431 --> 01:17:18,567 And those fears came to fruition relatively quickly. 1256 01:17:22,706 --> 01:17:24,808 The purpose of our school system 1257 01:17:24,841 --> 01:17:27,410 is to educate kids, not to indoctrinate our kids. 1258 01:17:27,443 --> 01:17:28,878 Correct! 1259 01:17:28,912 --> 01:17:30,613 My name is Zander Moricz. 1260 01:17:30,714 --> 01:17:32,415 I knew about Matthew Shepard, 1261 01:17:32,448 --> 01:17:36,152 but I don't know if that narrative is as widely 1262 01:17:36,185 --> 01:17:37,787 acknowledged as I would like it to be 1263 01:17:37,821 --> 01:17:40,023 because these stories are essential 1264 01:17:40,056 --> 01:17:42,425 to share and reflect on. 1265 01:17:42,458 --> 01:17:44,493 I was raised in Sarasota, Florida, 1266 01:17:44,527 --> 01:17:47,430 which is a pretty politically polarized community, 1267 01:17:47,463 --> 01:17:50,934 and I found sanctuary in my school community. 1268 01:17:52,769 --> 01:17:54,838 I came out to a civics teacher at Pine View, 1269 01:17:54,871 --> 01:17:56,572 who was then my PE teacher actually. 1270 01:17:56,605 --> 01:17:58,742 It was a safe space. It was exactly 1271 01:17:58,742 --> 01:17:59,876 what a school is meant to be. 1272 01:17:59,909 --> 01:18:01,644 It's a place to learn 1273 01:18:01,745 --> 01:18:04,748 and discover not only things in subjects but yourself. 1274 01:18:05,982 --> 01:18:07,751 That environment 1275 01:18:07,784 --> 01:18:09,452 that is so accepting, that is so affirming, 1276 01:18:09,485 --> 01:18:11,454 is a threat to the politicians 1277 01:18:11,487 --> 01:18:13,622 and they need a solution for that. 1278 01:18:13,656 --> 01:18:15,558 And the solution is, "Okay, it's all happening 1279 01:18:15,591 --> 01:18:17,660 in these safe spaces. We'll take them away." 1280 01:18:17,761 --> 01:18:20,029 And the Don't Say Gay law was an example of that. 1281 01:18:20,063 --> 01:18:22,231 No sexual instruction 1282 01:18:22,265 --> 01:18:24,968 in grades pre-K through three. 1283 01:18:25,001 --> 01:18:26,836 And so how many parents 1284 01:18:26,870 --> 01:18:29,806 want their kindergartners to have transgenderism 1285 01:18:29,839 --> 01:18:33,476 or something injected into classroom instruction? 1286 01:18:33,509 --> 01:18:35,544 When this was first introduced as a bill, 1287 01:18:35,578 --> 01:18:37,781 our boys were in first grade. 1288 01:18:37,814 --> 01:18:40,516 The bill is supposed to impact kids' kindergarten through third grade. 1289 01:18:40,549 --> 01:18:43,119 So, this was bringing it home directly for us. 1290 01:18:43,152 --> 01:18:45,789 The Don't Say Gay bill is now law. 1291 01:18:45,822 --> 01:18:48,391 Governor Ron DeSantis Monday signed the measure 1292 01:18:48,424 --> 01:18:50,927 banning certain instruction about sexual orientation 1293 01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:54,363 and gender identity in the classroom. 1294 01:18:54,397 --> 01:18:56,800 One of the things that makes this piece of legislation 1295 01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:58,868 so horrifying is the way that it's enforced. 1296 01:18:58,902 --> 01:19:01,104 The enforcement mechanism is that any parent 1297 01:19:01,137 --> 01:19:03,940 can sue a school district. 1298 01:19:03,973 --> 01:19:06,910 Opposition to the bill grew louder in recent days. 1299 01:19:06,943 --> 01:19:09,378 For a public school teacher in Florida 1300 01:19:09,412 --> 01:19:12,348 to get in trouble for having maybe a photo 1301 01:19:12,381 --> 01:19:14,483 of their spouse on their desk. 1302 01:19:14,517 --> 01:19:17,453 We can't even take a risk. Imagine what the consequence would be. 1303 01:19:17,486 --> 01:19:20,824 What's going on? We are like going completely backwards. 1304 01:19:20,824 --> 01:19:23,192 Although Ron DeSantis said that it was intended 1305 01:19:23,226 --> 01:19:26,896 to protect only the youngest children from, 1306 01:19:26,930 --> 01:19:30,033 you know, being indoctrinated into homosexuality, 1307 01:19:30,066 --> 01:19:33,736 the law's been expanded to apply to kids 1308 01:19:33,837 --> 01:19:36,439 in grades K through 12. 1309 01:19:36,472 --> 01:19:39,208 -The amount of silence... -Mmm-hmm. 1310 01:19:39,242 --> 01:19:41,044 ...was deafening. 1311 01:19:41,077 --> 01:19:43,179 We are still seeing hateful attacks 1312 01:19:43,212 --> 01:19:46,349 like the attack on Matthew and what that signifies to us 1313 01:19:46,382 --> 01:19:47,851 is not that there hasn't been any progress, 1314 01:19:47,884 --> 01:19:49,418 but that that hate still exists. 1315 01:19:49,452 --> 01:19:51,988 And that's like the enemy of equality. 1316 01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:00,729 In Texas, the governor had a directive 1317 01:20:00,763 --> 01:20:03,967 to prevent trans-youth 1318 01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:07,570 from accessing transgender affirming medical care. 1319 01:20:07,603 --> 01:20:09,338 The governor's directive was to investigate 1320 01:20:09,372 --> 01:20:11,908 some Texas parents of transgender children 1321 01:20:11,941 --> 01:20:13,742 for potential child abuse, 1322 01:20:13,776 --> 01:20:15,544 specifically parents who provided gender 1323 01:20:15,578 --> 01:20:17,680 affirming care that stops puberty. 1324 01:20:18,514 --> 01:20:20,183 Those bills do harm. 1325 01:20:20,216 --> 01:20:23,052 They create bullying for transgender youth. 1326 01:20:23,086 --> 01:20:26,355 Transgender youth deserve to be protected and safe. 1327 01:20:26,389 --> 01:20:29,258 You don't hear anything like that from Governor Abbott, right? 1328 01:20:29,292 --> 01:20:30,593 Like, you hear the reverse. 1329 01:20:30,626 --> 01:20:32,929 You hear this dehumanization 1330 01:20:32,962 --> 01:20:36,165 of kids from Governor Abbott. 1331 01:20:36,199 --> 01:20:39,903 And somehow from 2016 to now 1332 01:20:39,936 --> 01:20:41,504 that has become normalized. 1333 01:20:41,537 --> 01:20:43,106 All this is going to do 1334 01:20:43,139 --> 01:20:45,441 is force a lot of us back into hiding. 1335 01:20:46,509 --> 01:20:48,644 What can they do? They can hide. 1336 01:20:48,677 --> 01:20:50,013 That's about all there is left. 1337 01:20:50,046 --> 01:20:51,847 Or they can fight. 1338 01:20:51,881 --> 01:20:54,250 And neither one of those options feels good, 1339 01:20:55,218 --> 01:20:57,220 but that's what's left. 1340 01:20:57,253 --> 01:20:59,989 I mean, hide or fight, you know? 1341 01:21:00,023 --> 01:21:02,525 Matthew Shepard's death was horrific, 1342 01:21:02,558 --> 01:21:05,328 but it's also this violence is commonplace. 1343 01:21:06,429 --> 01:21:08,331 We're so grateful that you're with us here 1344 01:21:08,364 --> 01:21:12,168 as we cover a mass casualty shooting 1345 01:21:12,201 --> 01:21:15,038 in downtown Orlando. 1346 01:21:15,071 --> 01:21:17,840 Physical violence like the massacre 1347 01:21:17,941 --> 01:21:21,244 at Pulse nightclub in Florida, 1348 01:21:21,277 --> 01:21:25,448 or the mass shooting at Club Q in Colorado Springs, 1349 01:21:25,481 --> 01:21:27,516 that teaches our queer youth 1350 01:21:27,550 --> 01:21:30,586 and queer people in general to be terrified, 1351 01:21:30,619 --> 01:21:35,358 that based on their identity alone they can be slaughtered. 1352 01:21:35,391 --> 01:21:37,560 The sad fact is that people are always going to hate. 1353 01:21:37,593 --> 01:21:39,362 And no matter what we do, 1354 01:21:39,395 --> 01:21:42,098 we keep coming back to the same horrible places. 1355 01:21:43,366 --> 01:21:45,468 But we can't not fight. 1356 01:21:45,501 --> 01:21:47,236 We have to continue to fight. 1357 01:21:47,270 --> 01:21:49,973 And that means being visible when you can 1358 01:21:50,006 --> 01:21:52,976 to your family, to your friends, to your community. 1359 01:21:53,977 --> 01:21:56,445 The people who are part of that, 1360 01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:59,548 you know, movable middle, who are your neighbors, 1361 01:21:59,582 --> 01:22:03,352 who just need to hear a different message, 1362 01:22:03,386 --> 01:22:05,554 invite them in, have that conversation. 1363 01:22:05,588 --> 01:22:09,225 On the other side, like conservative folks, 1364 01:22:09,258 --> 01:22:11,995 you're gonna have to find your moral courage. 1365 01:22:12,028 --> 01:22:14,463 Like history is gonna look back 1366 01:22:14,497 --> 01:22:18,001 on what you did and did not do during this time. 1367 01:22:18,001 --> 01:22:21,037 And I think they're going to judge you harshly 1368 01:22:21,070 --> 01:22:24,540 for how rapidly you capitulated your values. 1369 01:22:31,314 --> 01:22:33,482 Matthew's story is really important 1370 01:22:33,516 --> 01:22:36,152 because it was one of the reasons why 1371 01:22:36,185 --> 01:22:40,523 we were able to move forward in the past 25 years. 1372 01:22:40,556 --> 01:22:44,027 But the need in this moment when it's hard 1373 01:22:44,027 --> 01:22:47,130 to get motivated to fight all over again, 1374 01:22:47,163 --> 01:22:49,498 to remember who this young man was, 1375 01:22:49,532 --> 01:22:52,801 who was so brutally murdered because he was gay. 1376 01:22:52,835 --> 01:22:54,570 - Move! - You're a bigot and you're a coward! 1377 01:22:56,339 --> 01:22:58,207 And that is why Matthew's story 1378 01:22:58,241 --> 01:22:59,842 continues to be told. 1379 01:23:02,178 --> 01:23:06,282 And we do have to keep sharing Matthew's story. 1380 01:23:06,315 --> 01:23:08,617 We have to teach gay history. 1381 01:23:10,053 --> 01:23:11,954 It's very important 1382 01:23:12,055 --> 01:23:14,157 that we continue to focus on young people. 1383 01:23:14,190 --> 01:23:16,492 Young people are the future. 1384 01:23:16,525 --> 01:23:20,763 We have a lot of brave teens like Zander doing the things he does, 1385 01:23:20,796 --> 01:23:22,531 and it's encouraging. 1386 01:23:22,565 --> 01:23:23,832 What happened to Matthew Shepard 1387 01:23:23,866 --> 01:23:26,502 is undeniably wicked 1388 01:23:26,535 --> 01:23:28,704 and disgusting and full of hate 1389 01:23:28,737 --> 01:23:30,706 that's happening again every single day. 1390 01:23:31,740 --> 01:23:33,809 But there's nothing stopping us 1391 01:23:33,842 --> 01:23:36,079 from revolutionizing our society 1392 01:23:36,079 --> 01:23:38,181 in a generation. We absolutely could. 1393 01:23:38,214 --> 01:23:39,982 We just have to start right now. 1394 01:23:40,083 --> 01:23:41,550 Now! 107740

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