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(Richard Shepherd)
When a murder is committed,
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it's always a race against time
to find the truth,
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to separate fact from fiction,
to catch the killer,
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and to make sure
that justice is served.
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But what happens when the truth
vanishes with the victim?
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I'm Dr Richard Shepherd,
and I've spent
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my entire career
as a forensic pathologist,
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performing nearly 23,000 autopsies.
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I've learned that the dead
don't hide the truth,
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and they never lie.
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Through me, you'll be hearing
directly from the victim.
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With the aid
of a state-of-the-art laboratory,
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using ground-breaking technology,
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I'll be investigating a series
of intriguing crimes
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where, from the victims' bodies,
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are revealed to you
the truth behind these murders.
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(camera shutter snapping)
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-(touch tones beeping)
-(line ringing)
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(Dispatcher)
Good morning, Dorset Police.
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On the 17th of June, 2013,
Dorset Police
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pay a welfare visit
to a flat in Bournemouth.
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It's the home of taxi driver
William Spiller,
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who hasn't been seen for some time.
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And there, they make
a gruesome discovery.
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(sonar beeping)
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(touch tones beeping)
(line rings)
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Dorset Police
receive a phone call from a woman
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who says she's concerned.
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She's had no contact with her
boyfriend for some weeks now.
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The problem the police have
in relation to a phone call
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like that
is that they're both adults.
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They're both grown-ups.
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These are not uncommon
things to happen.
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If, as an adult, you don't want
to contact somebody or call them,
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then you're perfectly
entitled to do that.
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It's a very difficult situation
for the police to deal with.
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William's girlfriend hadn't
heard from him for quite a while.
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And obviously, she was worried.
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Something didn't seem right.
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And the neighbours
also alerted them.
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They're reporting
there are flies -
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dead flies, flies everywhere
swarming - and a smell.
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The police or a
social services-type organisation
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must go and look.
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Because, you know,
there are welfare concerns.
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(Brian Hook)
The woman had been receiving
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texts and messages
via the phone
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but had never actually
spoken to the boyfriend.
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And that was unusual.
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And at that point,
I think Dorset Police
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were quite right to decide
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that they would go and check
on the person's welfare,
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which is basically to go
knock on the door
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and say, are you OK?
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(knocking)
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They enter the block of flats.
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And as they approach
the front door,
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they are aware of an odour,
a musty smell.
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They force entry into the flat.
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(door clicks open)
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The smell was coming
from the bedroom,
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and there discovered this
absolutely horrific scene.
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(Brian) Any experienced officer
would tell you
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once you've witnessed that
odour of decomposition,
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you will never forget it.
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There's a TV in the bedroom,
and the TV is on a makeshift table
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made of four plastic boxes.
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And it's obvious to them, because
of the infestation and the smell,
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that they contained
remains of some sort.
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When the police smelt this
and saw all the flies
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around these plastic boxes,
which are clear,
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so they would have seen
these body parts.
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A further search
is made of the flat.
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And in a filing cabinet,
they find a box.
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When they open up that box
to see what the contents is,
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their worst fears are realised.
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They discover it's a human head,
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an absolutely horrific find
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for the officers
that go there initially
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to find human remains
that have been dismembered.
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(Jane Carter Woodrow) It must have
been so traumatic for the police
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to deal with
in that investigation.
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Imagine that the forensic
scientists or the detectives that
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came on after would
have been very surprised
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by the head in the filing cabinet.
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So this particularly grisly
murder would have certainly
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affected, you know, some of
the police in terms of trauma
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that they may have
suffered afterwards
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from dealing with the case.
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(Brian) At this point,
the officers withdraw.
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The flat is cordoned off.
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And obviously, detective
branch is informed
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and a homicide
investigation is commenced.
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(Kevin Browne)
It was immediately clear,
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from the way the body parts
had been stored, that this
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was not typical of a murder scene.
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It would be unusual for the police
to find something so ordered
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and something so obvious.
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I mean, usually, if someone
is dismembering a body,
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it's to conceal it, not to
use it as a table for the TV.
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So the police would have
been very confused about why
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has this person gone
to so much time
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to put a body in boxes
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and then just to leave it there
for it to be discovered.
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So, in this case, this
isn't about concealment.
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This is about order.
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The evidential trail
starts right away.
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This is actually
a very complex crime scene,
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even down to some of the things
that perhaps might not be obvious.
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Do all the body parts belong to
the same body, is the first thing,
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or are we looking
for other victims?
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As a pathologist, when I'm
faced with multiple body parts,
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the first thing I must
do is make sure they
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all belong to the same person.
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We could possibly be dealing
with a serial killer.
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But in this case, there was
a torso, a head, arms and legs,
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all neatly severed
through the joints
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and stacked in plastic boxes.
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They did all fit together.
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And DNA testing confirmed they
all belonged to the same person.
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This was the body of a white man
in his 40s who was large.
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He was around 20-plus stone.
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And the cuts through
the bone were not
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those of an expert, which
suggested he'd been dismembered
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using some kind of saw.
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Certainly, the cuts weren't smooth
or made with surgical tools.
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But who was it?
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One of the most important things
in a situation like this,
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you have to identify the victim.
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That is of paramount importance.
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The dismembered body was
in such a state of decay,
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there was very little left
to identify the remains.
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But what we did have was his teeth.
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The inner soft tissue of the tooth
is covered by a layer of enamel,
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which is a very,
very hard substance,
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capable of withstanding
incredibly high temperatures
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and can sometimes last for
hundreds of years after death.
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Comparing the teeth
with dental records
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confirmed that this was 48-year-old
taxi driver William Spiller.
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(Brian) William was known
locally as a gentle giant.
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He's a fun-loving, humorous man
that was known to a lot of people.
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William was in a
long-term relationship
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with a woman called Glenys.
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It was her that had called
the police initially.
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(Jane)
William was a taxi driver.
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He seemed very popular where
he lived down in Bournemouth.
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He was also a doorman at one time.
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He loved playing snooker.
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He did all the sort
of usual things.
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He had a caravan at the beach,
and he'd go down there.
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And he was also a father.
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(Richard) William had a
27-year-old son, Nathan Robinson,
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who spent his childhood growing up
in the Midlands with his mother
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before moving to Bournemouth
to be with his dad.
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(Brian) Nathan studied
at Aberystwyth University.
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He has a degree in mathematics.
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And, at one point,
he was considering
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doing a master's degree.
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(Jane) Nathan
had just finished a degree,
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graduated from Aberystwyth.
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He'd gone to live
down in Bournemouth.
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He didn't actually have
a job at that time,
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but the two were living together.
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(Brian) It was fairly obvious,
when William was found,
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that nobody had been in
the flat for some time.
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However, Nathan had lived
with William for some years.
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So where is Nathan now?
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Nathan falls into two camps.
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He's either in the suspect's camp
or the victim's.
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He could be either at this point.
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If Nathan is a suspect
or a victim, what's imperative,
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regardless of which camp
he's in,
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we need to find him
as a matter of urgency.
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In a quiet cul-de-sac
in Bournemouth,
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police have launched a murder
investigation after finding
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the dismembered body
of taxi driver William Spiller
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neatly packed in storage boxes.
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There was a torso,
a head, arms and legs,
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all neatly severed
through the joints
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and stacked in plastic boxes.
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The dismembered body was
in such a state of decay,
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there was very little left
to identify the remains.
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But dental records confirmed this
was 48-year-old William Spiller.
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William shared his flat with his
26-year-old son, Nathan Robinson.
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(Brian) Nathan's not there.
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From the investigative
perspective, why is he not there?
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Nathan now has a foot in
two potential boxes here.
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He's either a suspect.
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He could be a victim.
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We need to find out
which one he's in.
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(Richard) Police launched
a countrywide search
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for William's son.
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William's body was dismembered
and badly decomposed,
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but could it still
tell us something
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about what had happened to him
in those moments before he died?
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He was found to have
a number of stab
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and slash wounds all over his body.
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If we look at the torso, we can
see the spine and the ribs that
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protect the vital internal organs.
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But if we look at just
the soft tissue of the torso,
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we can see that the wounds
are superficial.
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They cut through the skin
and the underlying muscle only.
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They go nowhere near
penetrating through the ribs
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and into the vital organs.
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And that's really important
because it tells us
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that the weapon used
to cause these injuries
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is very sharp
but also very shallow.
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During the search of the flat,
police seize
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a Stanley knife - a box cutter -
a saw, and a hacksaw.
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(Richard) While the Stanley knife
was the likely weapon used
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to inflict soft tissue
wounds on William,
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these injuries alone weren't enough
to have caused William's death.
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But there was
something else his body
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told us about this brutal attack.
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Often, at postmortem, it's not
what you see but what you don't see
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that can become important.
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As we look at William's arms,
I can see there are
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no slash wounds to his lower arms.
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And wounds like that are
caused when someone raises
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their hand to defend themselves.
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They're called defensive injuries.
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And the lack of those
defensive injuries in this case
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suggests to me that
this was a sudden attack
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and that William was
taken by surprise.
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So there's no defensive
wounds on the body.
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And you're talking about
a man as big as William,
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who is 20 stone and 6'4".
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So what you're looking at here
is a surprise attack or an attack
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by somebody he actually trusted.
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And there was no time, obviously,
for William to defend himself.
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(Kevin) When the police
attend any homicide
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in a domestic environment,
one of their suspicions
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is an immediate family member,
because, unfortunately,
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40% of all homicides actually
are domestic homicides
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in the home by relatives.
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It's actually more common
than you think.
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And people are more at risk
sometimes
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from people they know
than strangers.
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And so, therefore,
the police would first
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investigate the immediate
family members for a motive,
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for potential harm to each other.
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And they would suspect
a domestic argument
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that had gone too far, etc.
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However, they would have been
shocked by the fact there was...
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that this body had been
dismembered and ordered into boxes
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and left there in the apartment
in such an ordered way,
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because that sort of
approach to a body
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is very unusual in a family murder
or domestic murder.
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(Richard) The police
investigation continued
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to focus on Nathan Robinson,
and detectives
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began to build a picture of his
relationship with his father.
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When the police
were searching the flat
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looking for evidence,
one of the things they found
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was an IOU note
from Nathan to William
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for an absolutely staggering sum -
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36,000 pounds.
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That is just unbelievable.
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Nathan doesn't have a job.
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And William is, effectively,
funding Nathan's lifestyle.
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(Jane) There seemed to be
an issue of money between them.
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Nathan was certainly seeing,
in his father, a cash cow.
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He owed his father a lot of money.
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And if he needed anything,
he would go to his father.
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He didn't actually have a job,
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although he did have
a good degree.
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He seemed to depend
on his father for money,
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and the relationship seemed
pretty heavily biased that way.
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(Brian) There were obviously
problems within the relationship,
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and a lot of this
stems about money.
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William lent Nathan
some money so that he
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could go on holiday to Thailand.
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The understanding
was that that money
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would be paid back to William,
but that never happened.
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And the problem arose,
because William now
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didn't have that money,
he was unable to pay
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the insurance for his taxi.
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It's his livelihood.
That's how he makes his living.
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Nathan wasn't in education.
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So the father's expectation
would be that he should support
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himself through being employed.
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And of course,
there would have been
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a disappointment for the father
if that didn't happen.
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So that would have
created conflict.
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(Richard) Police inquiries
with friends and family
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revealed that Nathan and his father
repeatedly clashed over money.
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Do you expect me to subsidise you
for the rest of your life,
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was one of the remarks that
was heard by a neighbour
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during one of their arguments.
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(Jane) Money
can be a source of conflict
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in a relationship within a family.
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It certainly can be.
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There was a conflict
between them about money,
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and that seemed
to escalate over time.
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(Richard) As work continued
on tracking Nathan down,
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detectives needed
to establish a timeline
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of events around William's death.
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The time when that person
might have died is paramount
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because it will direct
your investigation.
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It will also give you a window
of when that person died.
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You get that, you know where
to start your inquiries.
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(Richard) Pinpointing an
exact time of death was difficult,
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but the hatched flies
and state of decay
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suggested William's body had been
in the flat for around four weeks.
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There was confirmation from Glenys
about contact she had
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and contact she then
didn't have with the victim.
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And that period of time
is narrowed down
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as to when it's highly likely,
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most likely that
William was killed.
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(Richard)
A phone call from a neighbour
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corroborated this time frame.
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-(touch tones beeping)
-(line ringing)
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(Dispatcher)
Good morning, Dorset Police.
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(Richard) The neighbour
went on to say he'd heard
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a commotion and William calling
out to phone for an ambulance
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on the night of the 16th of May.
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With a rough time of death,
the investigation
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could pick up speed and hone in
on a potential suspect.
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Part of the investigative
process, the victim
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is going to be lifestyled.
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Where do they work?
What hours do they work?
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Who are their friends?
Where do they frequent?
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Where might they be expected
to be at any particular time?
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Because that's where the paths
of our victim and our suspect
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or suspects may well have crossed.
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There's a huge
amount of work to do.
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We all leave a pattern
wherever we go.
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Going into places,
in buying things,
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you're using cards, credit cards,
debit cards, even cash.
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One of the main investigative
strands these days -
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closed-circuit TV.
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Hundreds of hours of CCTV
is seized and looked at.
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On that CCTV, we see Nathan.
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Nathan is at the railway station.
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Nathan is seen buying
a ticket to travel to Scotland.
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(Richard) This trip to Glasgow
in Scotland happened
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on the 17th of May, the day
after a neighbour reported
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a commotion at William's flat.
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It made Nathan the prime suspect.
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But with no criminal record,
lots of friends,
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and no concrete evidence,
he seemed an unlikely murderer.
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Police continued to investigate.
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(Brian) Now that we know
where Nathan has gone,
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crucial evidence is being
gathered in Scotland.
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We need to know his movements,
where he's been, who he's seen,
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and what he's actually
doing in Scotland.
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His friends said that he
was being extravagant.
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He was buying them meals.
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He was staying
in expensive hotels.
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He treats his friends.
He's buying drinks.
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He's buying food.
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You see this largesse.
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You see he's trying to
impress his friends.
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He has a definite sense of...
in my opinion, a definite sense
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of entitlement about him.
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He feels this is his right.
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He's there showing off.
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Question is, where does
this money come from?
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(Jane) But we know that he
doesn't have any money.
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He doesn't have a job.
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And his father didn't want
to give him any more money.
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You can only assume that he's
taken his father's money.
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After leaving Scotland,
Nathan's spending spree continues.
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He goes to see his mother.
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He takes her on an expensive
spa weekend in a hotel.
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When he goes down to Birmingham,
when he takes his mother out,
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again, look at me,
I'm the business.
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He is the centre of his world,
totally egocentric.
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But he wants admiration, which
you always see in narcissists.
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In the four weeks
since leaving Bournemouth,
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Nathan had spent
over 8,000 pounds.
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(glasses clink)
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(Richard) So did Nathan
murder his father for money?
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(Kevin) He used his father's money
to an extreme,
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spending a lot of money
in a weekend.
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That may tell me that he was
half expecting to be caught
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and he was having a big splash
before he got caught.
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(Brian) Police eventually
track Nathan down,
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and they arrest him
on suspicion of being
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involved in the murder of William.
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His remark when he's
arrested is, is this a joke?
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After William Spiller's body
was discovered
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carefully dismembered
and neatly packed in storage boxes,
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police arrested
their prime suspect,
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his 26-year-old son,
Nathan Robinson.
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William's body had been
slashed with a knife,
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but there were
no defensive wounds,
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suggesting a surprise attack
by someone in the home.
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Shortly after the murder,
Nathan had
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gone on a spending spree
in Scotland and Birmingham
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with his father's money.
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Well, it seemed that
after he'd cleaned up
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and he'd ordered the flat
in the way that he did
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that he couldn't remain there.
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He needed to leave the flat
and go away to Scotland,
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to Glasgow, to see friends.
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And so obviously, the environment
of his father being there
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was impacting on him, that he
couldn't stay there the weekend.
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Police eventually
track Nathan down,
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and they arrest him
on suspicion of being
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involved in the murder of William.
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His remark when he's
arrested is, is this a joke?
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It's a strange response for
somebody that's been arrested
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for such a serious offence.
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I've experienced silence.
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00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,960
I've experienced anger.
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I've experienced confusion.
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But that response is strange.
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I think it's the response
of somebody in denial,
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and certainly he's going to
be denying any involvement.
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And what they now want to know
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is, how much do the police know?
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In other words,
how much evidence have
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you got that I'm involved in this?
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(Jane) This is
classical of narcissism.
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They don't expect to get caught.
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They're very arrogant.
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00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,960
No way is this
anything to do with me.
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It's very casual denial.
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He wants to elicit a response
from the arresting officers.
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He wants them to carry on talking.
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He wants them to say
something back,
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even if it's just,
no, it's not a joke, mate.
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He's now entered a conversation
that he has started.
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That's the start of him
trying to control.
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(Richard) Nathan claimed
he was innocent of his father's
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murder, but William's body would
reveal more answers
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about what happened
the night he was killed.
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It's the job of the forensic
pathologist to determine
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what was the fatal injury.
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There were knife wounds
all over William's body.
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00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,960
But critically, there were
also injuries to his neck.
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The neck is where there are
some major blood vessels.
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And you can see them here.
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In red is the carotid artery,
which carries blood
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from the heart up to the brain,
and the jugular veins,
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which carry blood
back to the heart.
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Some of these blood vessels
are protected
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beneath this big muscle of the
neck, the sternomastoid muscle.
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But there's one blood vessel here,
one branch of the jugular vein,
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that sits on top of this muscle.
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And if it's cut, it's
going to bleed torrentially
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and is likely to cause
death very quickly
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without immediate
medical assistance.
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William Spiller's neck
was severed in this place,
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an injury that would have produced
a considerable amount of blood.
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Cutting up the body would
create even more blood.
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But when police first
discovered William,
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the flat didn't look
like a crime scene.
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(Brian) One of the
things that was noticed
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was that the flat was very clean.
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In other words, if somebody
is dismembered at that flat,
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you would expect there to be
blood staining, blood spattering,
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a whole array of things.
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If you dismember somebody,
it's very difficult
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to clean up afterwards.
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It takes quite a considerable
amount of effort.
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One of the things that the police
discovered afterwards was that
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the neighbour had
complained to Nathan
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that he had a pink liquid coming
down the wall in his bathroom.
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The neighbour came upstairs
to enquire what that was,
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to report it to him, and he
immediately covered for that.
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The neighbour said he's very
cool, calm, and collected.
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(Richard) Nathan
claimed he had spilled red wine.
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(Brian) Nathan didn't
bat an eyelid
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and was absolutely normal
in explaining why that
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was happening to the neighbour.
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(Kevin) The pink
fluid was probably
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a mixture of bleach and blood.
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(Richard) Armed with this
information, detectives homed in
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on the CCTV that
captured Nathan's movements
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around the time of the murder.
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He goes out and he buys
steam cleaning equipment.
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He actually buys
two steam cleaners.
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There's a lot of evidence
to indicate that Nathan is,
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in fact, the killer of his father.
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(Richard) And a
forensic sweep of the flat
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revealed critical evidence that the
killer hoped to have washed away.
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Just because you
clean up blood
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doesn't mean
to say it's not still there.
480
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So it might look clean,
but it's not.
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From the investigative process
of using a liquid -
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be it bleach, be it soapy water -
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to try and get rid of bloodstains,
what you're actually doing
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is spreading it.
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That stain that was 6 inches
around, when you dilute it,
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now it becomes 12 inches,
14 inches, 24 inches.
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And what you're actually
doing is moving the blood
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into the cracks and
the crevices where
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you might not be able to see it,
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but, forensically, we can find it.
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Cutting up a body, especially
in a domestic environment
492
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,960
rather than a clinical environment
will make a lot of mess.
493
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,960
To systematically go
through and clean that up,
494
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,960
it shows a level of not thinking
about what has happened and just
495
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,960
getting on with the job and
thinking about it as a task -
496
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,960
a cleaning task -
rather than what it represents.
497
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,960
This was just something that had
to be cleaned up and ordered,
498
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,960
which he did meticulously
and very carefully.
499
00:28:54,960 --> 00:29:00,960
So obviously, this to him was just
a task needed to be done.
500
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,960
(Jane) So he's completely
in control of what he was doing.
501
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,800
You know, there was no sort of
lost touch with reality.
502
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,640
He knew what he'd done, knew
what he was going to do.
503
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,960
He was going to try
and cover for himself
504
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,960
to get away with this murder.
505
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,960
(Richard) Nathan
also spun a web of lies
506
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,960
to make it look as if his
father was still alive.
507
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,960
After William's death, Nathan
goes to a huge amount of effort
508
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,960
to cover up the fact
that he's dead.
509
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,960
So he didn't want
that murder discovered.
510
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,960
He had the foresight to
make sure that nobody would
511
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,960
be calling round for a while.
512
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,960
(bell dings)
513
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,960
(Brian) He pays the rent for
the flat a month in advance,
514
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,960
so nobody's going to come
knocking on the door.
515
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,960
He actually used his
father's phone to communicate
516
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,960
with William's girlfriend,
Glenys, to convince her
517
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,960
that he's still alive.
518
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,960
She'd had some text messages.
519
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,160
And those that she'd had,
she didn't actually think
520
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,960
sounded quite right because
she knew that William
521
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,960
would be in touch with her.
522
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,960
(Brian) He sends messages
saying that
523
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,480
William's gone to the Midlands
524
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,960
because one of his friends
is dying
525
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,960
and he wants to be with him.
526
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,960
You know, a terribly
cruel thing to do.
527
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,320
(Richard)
And when Glenys first
528
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,960
tried to report William
missing to the police,
529
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,000
Nathan called them with
his own version of events.
530
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,960
(line rings)
531
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:59,960
He's actually explaining away
why his father is not being seen,
532
00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:04,960
and all the time he knows exactly
where his father is.
533
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,960
Just a cold, callous,
534
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,960
calculating thing to do.
535
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:20,960
I think that Nathan
is looking for excuses.
536
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,960
He knows the evidence that's
against him, it's overwhelming.
537
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:29,960
And he is trying every single
avenue to get out of it.
538
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,000
(Richard) But he'd
reached the end of the road.
539
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,960
On the 18th of June, 2013,
Nathan Robinson
540
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,960
was arrested and later
charged with the murder
541
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,800
of his father, William,
the unlawful disposal
542
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,960
of human remains, and theft.
543
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,960
(Kevin) What we
understand by patricide,
544
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,960
when a son or daughter
kills a parent,
545
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:59,320
is that the relationship
between the son and the father
546
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:04,320
is detached and possible
hatred between each other.
547
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,000
There must have been a level
of conflict in the past.
548
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,960
And indeed, what we find,
in this case,
549
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,160
that it was so extreme that he
committed murder, patricide.
550
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,960
(Brian)
There is a link and a bond
551
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,640
that we all have with our
family, which is close.
552
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:27,480
And the breaking of that bond
almost feels like sacrilege.
553
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,480
(Jane) Nathan was a very cold,
calculated killer.
554
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,640
And he certainly never
expected to get caught.
555
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,480
The evidence that's against him,
to be quite frank,
556
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,800
it's overwhelming.
557
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,960
(Richard) The police were
confident they had their man.
558
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:48,480
But in court, Nathan Robinson
denied murder on the grounds
559
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,960
of diminished responsibility.
560
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,640
And what that means is that
he is saying to the court
561
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,960
and wants to prove to
the court, he actually
562
00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:01,960
didn't know what he
was doing at the time
563
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,960
because he had no mental
faculties that enabled him
564
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,480
to know what he was doing at all.
565
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,640
(Richard) But was there
a reason why he did it?
566
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,800
During the court case,
Nathan makes
567
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,960
an absolutely explosive claim.
568
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,960
He'd forgotten about it.
569
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,960
And suddenly, it came back to him.
570
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,960
(sonar beeping)
571
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,160
(Richard) When police officers
carried out a welfare check
572
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,960
on a Bournemouth flat,
they discovered
573
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,960
the dismembered body of
taxi driver William Spiller
574
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,320
stored in plastic containers.
575
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,960
The postmortem showed that
wounds across William's body
576
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:58,000
were inflicted by a Stanley knife,
also found at the flat.
577
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,800
William's son, Nathan, was the only
other person living at the flat.
578
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,960
Around the time of
the murder, neighbours
579
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,960
had reported a commotion.
580
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,960
Nathan was spotted on CCTV
buying cleaning products
581
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,960
and then went on a spending spree
with his father's money.
582
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:19,960
After a nationwide search, police
arrested William's son, Nathan,
583
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,000
and charged him with murder.
584
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,960
(Brian) He eventually goes to
court and he pleads not guilty.
585
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:36,960
As part of that not guilty plea,
he is offering up a defence,
586
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,960
a defence that is known as
diminished responsibility.
587
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,960
If you're found guilty with
diminished responsibility,
588
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,160
you cannot be given a
whole life sentence.
589
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:52,000
You will be sentenced to a much
lesser term of imprisonment.
590
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,960
There's an element
of sadism, almost,
591
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,960
in this, because he's
making William's girlfriend
592
00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:02,000
and the family of his father
593
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,960
go through the horrific details
of the crime.
594
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,960
If he'd have pleaded guilty,
none of that would have happened.
595
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,960
But now he's got the
best of both worlds.
596
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:11,960
He's trying for that.
597
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,960
He's trying to get
a reduced sentence,
598
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,960
and he's enjoying the details
of his crime coming out.
599
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,960
And it's a kind of
celebrity notoriety
600
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,960
that you get from that as well.
601
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,320
So I think that would have
appealed to him because I
602
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:27,960
do think he wants attention.
603
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,960
(Brian) As part of Nathan's
diminished responsibility plea,
604
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,960
Nathan accepts that
he killed his father.
605
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,960
He accepts that he watched him die
and that he didn't
606
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,960
call an ambulance that could have
potentially saved his life.
607
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:46,960
He then says he has no memory
whatsoever of those events.
608
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,800
Nathan then says the
next thing he remembers
609
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,960
is he's in the shower washing
off the blood from his father.
610
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,960
Now, I would suggest that
the cognitive thought process
611
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,960
of realising that you have to
wash the blood off to get rid
612
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:16,960
of evidence means that there is
a thought process that has been
613
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,960
followed from the actual
event of killing his father,
614
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:22,960
which he has accepted.
615
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,960
And it's selective.
616
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,960
He's been selective
in what not to remember.
617
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,960
(Richard) The prosecution
argued against the plea
618
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,960
of diminished
responsibility, claiming
619
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,960
Nathan had a clear financial
motive for murdering William.
620
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:46,480
Father of 48 supporting a son
of 26 is nothing unusual
621
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,960
as long as that son
is in higher education
622
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,000
and he's seen to be achieving.
623
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:55,960
The arguments come
when he's dropped out.
624
00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:00,000
Nathan owed his
father 36,000 pounds.
625
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,960
What are you going to do?
When are you going to get a job?
626
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:03,960
That's when the arguments come.
627
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,960
And of course, there would have
been a disappointment
628
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,960
for the father
if that didn't happen.
629
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,000
In my opinion, he had
a sense of entitlement.
630
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,960
He wanted the money.
631
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,960
His father was fed up
with giving him money.
632
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,480
He clearly had a grudge
against his father.
633
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,160
And of course,
the most telling thing
634
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,960
is the fact that
the way Nathan wanted
635
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,960
to spend his time
after he'd murdered his father
636
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,640
was to support his mother,
show her a good time,
637
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,960
go out
and spend money with his mother.
638
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,960
And he obviously had an emotional
attachment to his mother
639
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,320
that was absent for his father
because he took his mother's
640
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,640
surname, not his father's surname.
641
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:52,960
The Oedipus complex was first
talked about by Sigmund Freud,
642
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:57,960
and he suggested that sometimes
a son competes with the father
643
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,960
for the attention
and love of the mother
644
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,960
and so that the son
and father are in conflict.
645
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,160
And in some cases,
this can be so extreme
646
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,960
as to lead to violence
between the father and son
647
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,960
and even death and homicide.
648
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,960
(Richard) After the prosecution
rested their case,
649
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,800
it was the turn
of Nathan's defence team.
650
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,960
Nathan's barrister suggested
during the case
651
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,000
that this was an
unusual crime, that it
652
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,960
was a result of a sudden
snapping that caused the killing
653
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,960
and that the crime had no motive.
654
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,960
(Richard) But did
William's body support this claim?
655
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,960
The multiple injuries
on William's body
656
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,960
would tend to indicate
a sudden explosion of violence.
657
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,960
But the fact that Nathan
watched him bleed to death
658
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,960
and then dismembered his body
659
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,960
would suggest something
far more calculated.
660
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,480
We know that Nathan had used
a Stanley knife to inflict
661
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,960
the injuries, but the police
also found a couple of saws
662
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,960
that he'd used
to dismember the body.
663
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,960
William Spiller was a big man.
664
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,960
He was 6'5" -
that's nearly 2 metres tall -
665
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,960
weighing 160 kilogrammes.
666
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,800
That's about 25 stone.
667
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,640
Dismembering him would not
have been easy.
668
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,960
Joints are particularly
complex with interlocking
669
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,960
pieces of bone held together
with tight ligaments.
670
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,960
Take the shoulder
joint, for example.
671
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,960
Here, the head of the
humerus, the clavicle,
672
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,960
and part of the shoulder blade
all are fixed together
673
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,960
by tight fibrous bands.
674
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,960
And then we can see
how they're surrounded
675
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,480
by muscle and other ligaments
keeping it together.
676
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,960
Dismembering a body is never easy.
677
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,960
It must have taken him
hours and hours.
678
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:50,960
William's dismembered body
revealed that this was not a moment
679
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,160
of madness - quite the opposite.
680
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,960
This was a considered
and determined action.
681
00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:02,960
There's no doubt that
the son was emotionally
682
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,960
detached from his father.
683
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,480
This particular individual would
have been particularly callous
684
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,960
and not have much empathy
for the victim.
685
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:15,960
And to have systematically tidied
up and then stacked them in boxes
686
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,960
after dismembering the body shows
a level of detachment from reality
687
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,960
and what has gone on
in the room.
688
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,800
It's so bizarre that he
went to all that trouble
689
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:35,960
to dissect the body, to put it
in all these plastic boxes,
690
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,960
which, to me,
seems like utter contempt -
691
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,960
utter contempt for his father.
692
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,960
And then to build them up
and to put the TV on
693
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,160
and to use it as a stand,
694
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,960
I mean, that really is
a horror movie.
695
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,000
When the police
eventually arrived,
696
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,960
they found that his father's head
697
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,960
was actually
in the filing cabinet.
698
00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:03,640
No matter how emotionally
detached you are from your father,
699
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:04,960
you know what your
father looks like.
700
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,960
So the head represented
a challenge
701
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,960
to the way he was trying to blank
the whole thing out of his memory.
702
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,960
And so it had to be hidden away
so the son could forget
703
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,960
what had happened in that room.
704
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,960
(Richard) But was his motive
really just purely financial?
705
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,160
So from the ferocity
of the attack,
706
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,960
from slitting his throat
with a Stanley knife,
707
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,960
and then when his father
was laying on the floor,
708
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,960
pleading for an ambulance
and bleeding out,
709
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,960
to continually stab him
710
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,800
means there was real hatred
in the act,
711
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,960
which suggests that it wasn't
just an argument
712
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,960
about financial concerns
713
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,960
and about the amount of money
that his dad, as a taxi driver,
714
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,960
was paying for his son
to sit at home.
715
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,960
This was something else.
716
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,960
(Brian) During the court case,
Nathan makes
717
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,960
an absolutely explosive claim.
718
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:58,960
He says that when he was 13, he
was sexually abused by his father.
719
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,960
He'd forgotten about it.
720
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,960
And suddenly, it came back to him.
721
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,640
(Jane) Nathan tried to claim
that he'd suffered from PTSD,
722
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,960
that he'd been abused
by his father,
723
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,960
and that he'd had
a really bad childhood.
724
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,960
If somebody
has post-traumatic stress disorder
725
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:20,800
from a long period of abuse,
if that had happened in childhood,
726
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,480
then yes, I could see
727
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,960
how a person could snap
728
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,960
or a child might want to
get out of that situation.
729
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,960
It seemed to kind of
come out of the blue,
730
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,640
his defence of abuse.
731
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,960
(Brian) He knows
it can't be proved.
732
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,960
But also, it can't
be disproved as well.
733
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,960
(Kevin) Nathan says,
well, I was sexually
734
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,320
and physically abused as a child.
735
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,000
That may well have happened.
736
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:56,960
We do know that children who
have been sexually abused
737
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:01,000
under the age of 10
are much more likely
738
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:06,960
to commit homicide than children
who have not had that experience.
739
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,960
But with no evidence,
the court finds it difficult
740
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,000
because he could
be making it up as a way
741
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,960
of defending himself.
742
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,000
William is described as
a caring, loving father.
743
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,640
(Jane)
His father had always kept him.
744
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,960
He didn't have to
have him at the flat.
745
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,960
Nathan didn't have
to go and live there.
746
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,960
He could have gone and lived
somewhere else, you know,
747
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,320
after his degree course finished.
748
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:34,960
It just doesn't wash.
749
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,960
There's nothing there
actually in his past.
750
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,000
So they had nothing there
that could back up that claim.
751
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,960
(Brian) Nathan is easily
able to manipulate William,
752
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,960
to wrap him round
his little finger
753
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,960
to get him to do what he wants.
754
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:55,000
We can speculate as to why
William is happy to do that.
755
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,960
It could be guilt.
756
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,960
It could be
a whole host of reasons.
757
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,960
It's up to the jury to decide
whether or not they believe him.
758
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,960
(Richard) We'll never know
exactly what happened
759
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,480
between William and Nathan and
why their relationship broke down
760
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,160
with such devastating consequences.
761
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,960
After a three-week trial,
the jury took just
762
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,960
two hours to return their verdict.
763
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:25,960
Nathan was found guilty and
sentenced to life imprisonment.
764
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,960
The judge remarked
during his sentencing
765
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,960
that this was a callous,
cold-blooded, premeditated murder
766
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,640
of William,
the motive being financial.
767
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:38,960
He believed the money was his.
768
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,960
He had the sense of entitlement.
769
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,960
It was there, and he would do
what it took to get this money
770
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,960
and then to cover his tracks.
771
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,960
(Brian) I think the only way
you can look at Nathan,
772
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,960
when you know
all the circumstances
773
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,960
and all the facts of this case,
774
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:01,960
is, he was a cold,
calculating person.
775
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,960
He was driven by money.
776
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:08,960
People say that money
is the root of all evil.
777
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,960
And that's actually not correct.
778
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:16,960
What is correct is, the love
of money is the root of all evil.
779
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,960
Nathan is just pure evil.
780
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,960
It was a fatal wound to the neck
that killed William Spiller,
781
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,960
but the lack of defence
wounds proved he
782
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,960
didn't expect to be
attacked by his own son
783
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,960
and left to bleed to death.
784
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,960
Nathan tried to cover his tracks,
throw the police off the scent,
785
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,960
and claim childhood abuse
had triggered the assault.
786
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,960
But the clinical dismembering
of William's body
787
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,960
proved this was no
sudden snap of anger.
788
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,960
It was considered and calculated.
789
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,960
And for that reason, his body
revealed the cold, hard truth
790
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:03,960
about his murder, and a dangerous
killer was brought to justice.
791
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,960
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