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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:03,960 (Richard Shepherd) When a murder is committed, 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,960 it's always a race against time to find the truth, 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,960 to separate fact from fiction, to catch the killer, 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,320 and to make sure that justice is served. 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,960 But what happens when the truth vanishes with the victim? 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:22,960 I'm Dr Richard Shepherd, and I've spent 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,960 my entire career as a forensic pathologist, 8 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,480 performing nearly 23,000 autopsies. 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:36,960 I've learned that the dead don't hide the truth and they never lie. 10 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,960 Through me, you'll be hearing directly from the victim. 11 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,640 With the aid of a state-of-the-art laboratory, 12 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,960 using ground-breaking technology, I'll be investigating a series 13 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,960 of intriguing crimes, where, from the victims' bodies, 14 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,960 are revealed to you the truth behind these murders. 15 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:06,960 On the 22nd of May, 2010, in Costa Mesa, California, 16 00:01:06,960 --> 00:01:09,960 the body of a young woman was found in the apartment 17 00:01:09,960 --> 00:01:11,960 of war veteran Samuel Herr. 18 00:01:11,960 --> 00:01:15,800 The victim was 23-year-old Julie Kibuishi, 19 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,960 and she'd been brutally murdered. 20 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:28,960 Costa Mesa in Orange County, California. 21 00:01:28,960 --> 00:01:34,960 Concerned father, Steve Herr, was trying to reach his son, Sam. 22 00:01:34,960 --> 00:01:37,960 (Steve Herr) Sam was supposed to come over that weekend, 23 00:01:37,960 --> 00:01:39,960 and he never came. 24 00:01:39,960 --> 00:01:43,160 So on Saturday, I went to Sam's place. 25 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,960 I went to check, make sure everything is OK. 26 00:01:45,960 --> 00:01:47,960 (Matt Murphy) So he went to his son's apartment. 27 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,960 Steve had a key. 28 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:50,960 They were basically best friends. 29 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:55,960 So he's very, very close to his son, Sam. 30 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,960 I walked into the apartment, and everything was neat. 31 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:03,160 And then when I walked into Sam's bedroom, I turned on the light. 32 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:04,960 Then I saw a body. 33 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,480 (Richard) Steve immediately called police on 911. 34 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,960 (Sean Emery) The body was half on the bed, kind of half 35 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:24,960 off, clothes kind of dishevelled, pants off, underwear down. 36 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,960 Her sweatshirt was on, but her pants were ripped off 37 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,960 and she was fully exposed on the bottom. 38 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,960 She may have been sexually assaulted. 39 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:43,960 Her jeans had been cut off of her lower body. 40 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,000 Her buttocks were exposed. 41 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:09,480 (Richard) A message was scrawled across the young woman's sweater. 42 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,960 Words "all yours, fuck you" were written 43 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,960 on the back of her sweatshirt. 44 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,160 This looked like, on the surface, 45 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,960 every other domestic violence murder. 46 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:24,960 (Richard) And Steve's son, Sam Herr, 47 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,960 was mysteriously missing from the scene. 48 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,960 (Richard) Police raced to Sam's apartment. 49 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,960 Costa Mesa police arrived within minutes. 50 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:46,960 And they walked in, 51 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,320 responding officers walked into the apartment, 52 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,960 and to the left was Sam's bedroom. 53 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,960 And at the time, all they could see was blood, 54 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:58,960 and bent over Sam's bed, face down, was the body. 55 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:00,960 Police look at the scene. 56 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:05,960 They find a driver's licence that identifies the woman as Julie. 57 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,320 (Richard) Julie Kibuishi was a friend of Sam Herr. 58 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,960 And an initial search of Julie's phone 59 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,960 pointed towards Sam as a suspect. 60 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,960 When police looked at her phone, they saw a series of text messages 61 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,480 from the cell phone of Sam Herr indicating that he was having 62 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,960 some problems with his family. 63 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,960 These texts make it sound like Sam is having this kind of crisis. 64 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:31,000 Like, I need someone to talk to. 65 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,960 I'm having these problems. 66 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,480 You know, please come, 67 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,960 begging to come over to Sam's apartment. 68 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:39,960 There are messages in there saying, 69 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:41,960 I need a friend to talk to. 70 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:43,960 Can you come over tonight? 71 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:48,160 (Richard) Julie Kibuishi and Sam Herr had met at college. 72 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,960 (Matt) Sam was a veteran of Afghanistan. 73 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,480 He was at a place called Camp Keating in the Nuristan 74 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,320 Province of Afghanistan and saw, at one 75 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,000 point, 83 days of constant combat. 76 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,960 I think there was three different medals 77 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:03,960 of honour that were awarded. 78 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:08,960 So Sam Herr came back truly a war hero in every respect. 79 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,960 A lot of activity, a lot of action. 80 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:17,480 And when he got out, he signed up for college. 81 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:18,960 He started his college. 82 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,960 His plans were to get a four-year degree. 83 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,960 Once you have a four-year degree, you 84 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,320 can apply to become an officer. 85 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,960 His goal is to go to officer candidate school 86 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:32,960 and go back into the Army as an officer. 87 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,960 So he's going to OCC in order to get his degree so 88 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,960 that he can rejoin the Army and be an officer 89 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:38,960 and a better leader of men. 90 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,960 Julie had studied dance. 91 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,960 And she was going to Orange Coast College at the time 92 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:50,960 to study design, basically. 93 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,960 She wanted to be kind of a clothing designer. 94 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,960 Those who knew her described - she was a very friendly, bubbly, 95 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,160 outgoing person. 96 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,960 He and Julie met because they were in the same class. 97 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,960 And it was a class that Sam was kind of struggling in, 98 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:07,640 and Julie kind of stepped in as a tutor. 99 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,640 And they became friends. 100 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,960 There were certain clues left around the crime scene 101 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,960 from which the detectives believed that Sam 102 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:23,960 Herr had committed a sexual assault of Julie Kibuishi. 103 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,960 (Richard) But Julie's autopsy 104 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:31,320 raised questions about the scene presented to detectives. 105 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,800 Julie's body was found on the bed, 106 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,960 and because she was partially clothed, 107 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,320 it was assumed that she'd been sexually assaulted. 108 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,960 But intriguingly, the postmortem didn't support that. 109 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,960 What you sometimes see with a sexual assault are 110 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,960 physical injuries, like bruising to the arms or the wrists, 111 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,960 or other signs of a struggle. 112 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,960 Now, the absence of injuries like this doesn't rule anything out. 113 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,960 But in Julie's case, there was no evidence of any injuries 114 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,000 anywhere on her body to suggest she'd 115 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,960 been the victim of a sexual assault. 116 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:09,960 Internal swabs confirmed that there had been no sexual activity. 117 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:14,960 Friends and family of Sam and Julie also believed this was unlikely. 118 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,960 From the beginning, Steve was adamant with the investigators 119 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,960 that this could not have been him, this could not 120 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,960 have been his son that did this. 121 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,960 You know, he did not have that type of relationship with Julie. 122 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,800 They were not-they were not in a sexual relationship. 123 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,000 They were not in a dating relationship. 124 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:36,160 They were just, you know, a platonic relationship. 125 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,960 She looked at Sam like her big brother, a big Teddy bear. 126 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,960 That's how she described him to her parents. 127 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:48,480 And Sam described Julie to me as like a kid sister. 128 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,960 (Richard) So outwardly, there appeared no motive for Sam 129 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,960 to carry out such an attack. 130 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:59,480 And there were more clues from Julie's body that puzzled police. 131 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,960 The postmortem also revealed something else. 132 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,960 On Julie's buttocks, investigators could 133 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,960 see a process called blanching. 134 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,960 This is where the skin goes white because the blood is 135 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,960 literally squeezed from that part of the body 136 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,960 by some kind of pressure. 137 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,960 When somebody dies, for example, on their back, 138 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,960 it's very common that you will see, like, on their buttocks, 139 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,960 where the buttocks would have the most pressure on them, 140 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,480 there'll be blanching. 141 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,960 (Richard) But the position Julie was found in 142 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:35,800 didn't tie in with what her body told detectives. 143 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,960 Julie was bent over face down on the bed. 144 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,960 But on her buttocks, which were up, there were 145 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,960 blanching where you could see the imprint of her jeans. 146 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,960 That didn't make sense. 147 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,960 (Richard) This told police Julie's jeans were ripped 148 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,320 off long after she was dead. 149 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,640 Blanching doesn't set in usually for at least 30 minutes, 150 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:56,960 if not hours. 151 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,960 So the scenario where Sam freaks out 152 00:08:59,960 --> 00:09:01,960 and murders Julie and cuts off her jeans 153 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,960 as a part of some sexual assault was contradicted by that. 154 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:07,960 That made no sense. 155 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,640 (Richard) The evidence showed 156 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,960 no sign of a sexual assault. So perhaps the scene 157 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,960 had been staged to make it look like one. 158 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,640 But detectives were faced with clues left behind that still 159 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,960 implicated the brave war veteran. 160 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:24,960 There's also a bizarre sketch that 161 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,960 had been left at the scene with what appeared to be an Asian woman 162 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,640 naked, and there had been the imprint of a hand 163 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,960 on that and the words, "I'm done." 164 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,960 And also there appeared to be maybe hell 165 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,960 or, like, flames of hell on it. 166 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,960 (Richard) Police knew they had to investigate 167 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,960 the most likely scenario. 168 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,960 They had some sort of quarrel, perhaps over another man, 169 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:54,960 and that he lost it, murdered her, and then fled. 170 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,960 (Richard) Sam Herr's father was now left 171 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:01,960 protesting his son's innocence. 172 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,000 So police were now looking for Sam. 173 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,000 Everybody who knew Sam - not just me - 174 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,960 everybody who knew Sam said Sam didn't do that. 175 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,960 You can see a big guy getting into a fight in a bar 176 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,960 or something like that, but he would 177 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:18,960 never wantingly ever hurt a woman. 178 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,960 The police suspected it. 179 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,960 The media blurted it out that Sam was 180 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:29,960 the prime suspect in the murder. 181 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,960 But we all knew it was wrong. 182 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,960 (Richard Shepherd) In Costa Mesa, California, the body of 23-year-old 183 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,960 Julie Kibuishi was found in the apartment of war veteran, 184 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,960 Samuel Herr. 185 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,960 Having recently finished a tour of duty in Afghanistan, 186 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:51,960 26-year-old Army private Samuel Herr was a trained killer. 187 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:56,960 So for police, he was their number one suspect. 188 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:01,640 This looked every bit like your traditional run-of-the-mill, 189 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,160 bread-and-butter domestic violence homicide. 190 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:05,960 His passport was gone. 191 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:06,960 His car wasn't there. 192 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,640 So there was a big hunt on for Sam. 193 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,160 (Richard) Julie's autopsy pointed towards the identity 194 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,960 of the killer. 195 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:18,960 Julie had an entry wound in the back of her head 196 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,960 that could only have been caused by an object 197 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,960 with a high enough velocity to penetrate through the thick bone 198 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:26,960 of the skull. 199 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,000 The wound suggested that this was caused 200 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:33,960 by a bullet measuring around 9 millimetre in diameter, 201 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,960 probably fired by a small handgun. 202 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,960 With gunshot wounds to the head, we expect 203 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,960 to see crushed and lacerated brain tissue along the trajectory 204 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:45,960 of the bullet. 205 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,960 But it's not just the bullet that causes damage. 206 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,960 If you look carefully, you can see what happens 207 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,960 when a bullet hits the skull. 208 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:58,160 The shear force and velocity caused dozens of tiny shards of bone 209 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:02,960 to move out and cause massive damage to the soft brain tissue. 210 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:07,000 For police, the lethal shot to the back of Julie's head 211 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:12,960 put combat trained Army veteran, Sam Herr, clearly in the frame. 212 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,960 From their perspective, you know, this guy is a suspect. 213 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:17,960 And he's on the run. He's a fugitive at this point. 214 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:19,960 And they want to track him down. 215 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:21,160 At the same time, they realise 216 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:22,960 that there's things that don't seem 217 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,960 right about this crime scene. 218 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,960 There doesn't appear, through the autopsy, 219 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,960 to be any signs of a sexual assault. 220 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,960 There's no indication that Sam had a gun. 221 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,960 And there's all these things that just aren't really adding up. 222 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,480 (Richard) Sam's father, Steve, also had 223 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,960 his doubts his son was the killer. 224 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:49,960 He, too, was on the desperate hunt for Sam to find answers. 225 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:55,960 That night I got home and I had a few of Sam's friends' numbers. 226 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,960 And at 1:00, 2:00, I'm calling these people up. 227 00:12:59,960 --> 00:13:02,640 (Richard) One friend had interesting news. 228 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,960 He said, I called Sam, and somebody answered the phone, 229 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,480 but it wasn't Sam. 230 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:09,960 And he said, what's going on. 231 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:10,960 Then he got hung up. 232 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,960 So I knew somebody had Sam's phone. 233 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:26,960 Then Monday is when I was able to get into Sam's account. 234 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,960 There was movement on his ATM card. 235 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,960 The first few times, it was at the ATM machine in Long Beach. 236 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,960 (Richard) This was barely 20 miles and just 237 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,960 a 30-minute drive from Sam's apartment. 238 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:43,960 (Steve) And then there was activity that 239 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,960 pizza was purchased in Long Beach. 240 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:53,960 And I googled it, and they were all within close proximity. 241 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:59,480 So Monday evening, I went to the pizza joint. 242 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,960 Let me see if I see Sam's car. 243 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:04,960 So I stayed there for about two hours. 244 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:06,960 There was nothing there. 245 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,960 (Richard) But Steve passed on this significant new lead 246 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,960 to detectives. 247 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,960 (Matt) He told the police, somebody keeps withdrawing 248 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,960 money from my son's bank accounts. 249 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:22,960 So the police then set up a group of different teams 250 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,480 to monitor ATM machines where these withdrawals 251 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,960 were being taken. 252 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:32,160 They had teams ready to go just waiting for this card to be used. 253 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,960 So the initial breakthrough was they got the image of somebody 254 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,960 withdrawing money, which is great. 255 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,960 Now we're going to find out where Sam is because, you know, 256 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,960 Sam's going to be withdrawing his own money. 257 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,000 And the problem was it wasn't Sam. 258 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,640 It was a young man that nobody recognised. 259 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:02,960 They're continuing to keep an eye on these withdrawals, 260 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,960 and they managed to see one that's a pizza 261 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,640 order to a home in Long Beach. 262 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,960 (Richard) Armed response units 263 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,960 raced to the Long Beach address. 264 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:21,960 (Matt) So they come in helicopter overhead. 265 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,640 "Get down. Get down. 266 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,000 Get down." The police are walking in... 267 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,960 I think they had MP5s, which are automatic machine 268 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,160 guns that SWAT teams use here in Southern California. 269 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,960 And it's a bunch of 16-year-old kids 270 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,960 who, in fact, had Sam's ATM card. 271 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:42,960 And they had a lot of explaining to do. 272 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:47,960 (Richard) Police started interrogating the youngsters. 273 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:52,000 In the meantime, Steve had been calling his son's friends. 274 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,960 One, in particular, claimed he'd seen him, 275 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:59,960 Sam's neighbour, an actor - 276 00:15:59,960 --> 00:16:02,960 Dan Wozniak. 277 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,960 I said, Dan, can you tell me about Sam? 278 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,960 Yeah. 279 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,800 Because you said you saw him. He said, yeah. 280 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,960 He said, Sam was really nervous that time. 281 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,960 I said, do you have any idea why? 282 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,960 He said, no. 283 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,960 He did tell me he had girl problems 284 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,960 and he had family problems. 285 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,960 And let me clue you in on something. 286 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,800 The one thing there is no problems with Sam is family problems. 287 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:27,960 We are so close. 288 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:32,640 So as soon as he told me that, in my head, I said, 289 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:33,960 that bastard knows something. 290 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,160 OK? 291 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,000 He's dirty. 292 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,960 He was interviewed by the police, and he 293 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:45,960 said that he'd asked Sam to help him move some stuff that day. 294 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,160 And he essentially provided information 295 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:53,960 to the police that didn't appear to be of much use initially. 296 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,960 (Richard) Meanwhile, police had turned up at Steve's home. 297 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,000 Sam's still their prime suspect at the time. 298 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,960 They want to know if he had a gun, he wanted to do this, 299 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,960 or if he had this or that. 300 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,960 And I said, I've got information for you guys. 301 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,960 (Richard) Steve told them about his conversation 302 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,000 with Dan Wozniak. 303 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,960 And then when I told them, he's telling me Sam told him 304 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:18,960 he had family problems. 305 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,000 I absolutely knew he was lying. 306 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:25,960 So when I told the cops that, I'll never forget, one of them said, 307 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,960 we might be looking for the wrong guy. 308 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:30,960 (Richard) At the murder scene, 309 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,960 there was another clue leading to Dan. 310 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,000 Among the items that they find inside the apartment, 311 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,960 there was a wedding invitation to a woman 312 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:45,960 named Rachel Buffett and her marriage to Daniel Wozniak. 313 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,960 They're neighbours inside the building. 314 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,960 And they were a bunch of college students, so they would hang out. 315 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,960 They would party. They would spend time in the Jacuzzi and pools. 316 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,320 And Sam and Wozniak had had at least 317 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,800 one conversation in the Jacuzzi. 318 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,960 So they knew each other sort of socially within Camden Martinique 319 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,480 apartment complex. 320 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,960 (Richard) One of the boys found holding Sam's ATM card 321 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:12,960 had an interesting story to tell. 322 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,960 He immediately cooperated, and he said, yes, it was me. 323 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,480 I was taking money out. 324 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,960 And then there was the $20,000 question. 325 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,960 And some of us were expecting him to tell us where Sam was. 326 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:35,960 And instead he said, I got the card from Daniel Wozniak. 327 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,960 (Sean) He said that he had met Wozniak six years earlier. 328 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,960 They had both been acting in the same production. 329 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,960 And then, out of the blue, Wozniak had called him up 330 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:51,960 and asked him to do this, asked him to use this card 331 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,960 and go to these ATMs and withdraw this money. 332 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,960 (Matt) So this is now the second or third time 333 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,960 that Daniel Wozniak's name has come up in relation to this. 334 00:18:59,960 --> 00:19:02,640 Dan Wozniak had already been interviewed, 335 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,960 and he didn't say anything about getting Sam's ATM card. 336 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,960 At the very least, he withheld information from police 337 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:11,960 during a murder investigation. 338 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,960 That is a crime in and of itself. 339 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,960 They reached out to him. 340 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:16,960 I believe they called him on the phone, 341 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,960 and he said, yeah, I can't meet with you. 342 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,320 Sorry, I'm going on my bachelor party. 343 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:26,320 Which, as you can imagine, is not something that when you've got 344 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,960 potentially a crazed murderer on the loose 345 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,960 and you have the murder of a beautiful, 346 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,960 innocent 23-year-old woman, 347 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,160 that's not something that the police are going to care about. 348 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:47,960 So the police, they track Wozniak down. 349 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,960 They find him at his bachelor party, actually, 350 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,960 at a sushi place in Huntington Beach, 351 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,480 which is not far from Long Beach. 352 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,160 And they arrested him. 353 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:01,000 And it caused quite the kerfuffle among his party guests. 354 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,960 And I think they might have even-if I recall, 355 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,960 I think they handcuffed a couple of the guys that were protesting 356 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:08,640 his arrest, if I remember. 357 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,960 But anyway, they transport Daniel Wozniak 358 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,960 to the Costa Mesa Police Department 359 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,960 for a very formal interview. 360 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,480 Initially, Wozniak tells the detectives 361 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,960 that he was involved in some sort of bank fraud with Sam. 362 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,640 Then he changes his story. 363 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,960 What he essentially says, in a nutshell, 364 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,960 is, OK, OK, OK, I lied to you before. 365 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,640 I'm sorry I lied. 366 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,960 What really happened was Sam came to my apartment 367 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,000 and said he needed my help 368 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,960 and that there was a body in his apartment, 369 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:45,160 and he needed my help to get money out of his bank account. 370 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,960 He tells them, well, you know, Sam 371 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:52,640 had told me that he had killed Julie because she 372 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,000 wouldn't have sex with him. 373 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,960 And he was in this drug fuelled rage is what he claimed. 374 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,960 And he threatened me, and so I agreed to help him 375 00:20:59,960 --> 00:21:01,960 get money out of his bank account. 376 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,160 OK, so there are about 20 things in that story that made 377 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:06,960 absolutely no sense to detectives. 378 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:11,960 As detectives are kind of poking holes in these stories, 379 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,960 he's not kind of holding up very well under this questioning. 380 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,160 At one point, one of the detectives tells him, 381 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,640 you know, you're not that good an actor, man. 382 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,960 And when they start saying, well, hey, what about this, 383 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,800 and they begin confronting him, Wozniak's story begins to change. 384 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,160 And he says, OK, I'm sorry, I saw, quote unquote, "the goddamn body." 385 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:29,960 "I saw the goddamn body. 386 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:30,960 Is that what you want to hear? 387 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:31,960 I saw the goddamn body. 388 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,160 I didn't kill her. 389 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:34,960 You know, Sam killed her. 390 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,960 But then I helped him afterwards." 391 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,960 (Richard) But the discovery on Julie's body 392 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,960 undermined Wozniak's testimony. 393 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,960 In Julie's case, the postmortem confirmed that the cause of death 394 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,960 was a gunshot wound to the back of the head. 395 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,960 But there's something else her body revealed. 396 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,960 She'd been shot not once, but twice. 397 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,960 The second wound was hidden by her hair. 398 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,960 And so at first, that second gunshot wound 399 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,960 was known only to the pathologist who performed the examination, 400 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,960 and, of course, to the person who pulled the trigger. 401 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,480 (gun shots) 402 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,640 Wozniak said, I stood over her and I looked at her. 403 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,960 All I saw was two bullet holes in her head. 404 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,960 Julie was a young woman with a beautiful head 405 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,960 of thick black hair. 406 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,960 You couldn't see the bullet holes in her head. 407 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,960 This is a .380 calibre handgun, so this is a very small bullet. 408 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:35,960 And you couldn't see that. 409 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,640 It was impossible to see. 410 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,960 One of the detective sergeants, actually, 411 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,960 who was monitoring this interview, interrupted the interview 412 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,960 at that point and came in and said, wait a second, 413 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,960 did you say you saw two gunshot wounds in her head? 414 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,960 You couldn't see that. 415 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,960 So they caught him in a gigantic lie. 416 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,480 (Richard Shepherd) May 2010, Costa Mesa, California. 417 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,960 Police were investigating the discovery 418 00:22:59,960 --> 00:23:04,960 of a body in the apartment of war veteran Sam Herr. 419 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,320 The body was that of 23-year-old Julie Kibuishi. 420 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,960 Julie's body was found on the bed, and she'd been brutally murdered. 421 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,960 26-year-old Sam Herr was missing. 422 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:20,640 Nobody knew if he was alive, dead, or on the run. 423 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,960 But detectives had now arrested his neighbour, an actor, 424 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,000 Dan Wozniak, for withholding information 425 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,960 during a murder investigation. 426 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,960 Wozniak tells police that he saw two gunshot wounds 427 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,960 in the back of Julie's head. 428 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,320 Detectives realised there's no way he could have seen that. 429 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,960 So they're pushing him on this, and they can tell he's rattled. 430 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,960 And he's struggling to come up with explanations. 431 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,800 The interview ends. 432 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,640 He then goes back to his holding cell. 433 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,960 (Richard) Meanwhile, Wozniak's bride to be, 434 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:58,960 Rachel Buffett, had begun cancelling their wedding plans. 435 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,640 Rachel, his fiancee, went to Daniel's parents' home. 436 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:08,960 And she informs his mum that Dan has been arrested 437 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,960 and doesn't appear that he's going to be out in time for the wedding. 438 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,960 And while she's there, she has contact 439 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:18,000 with Tim, who is Wozniak's older brother, who begins to freak out 440 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,960 and says, oh, my god, oh, my god. 441 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,960 I have evidence. 442 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,960 (Richard) Unwittingly, Wozniak's brother, Tim, 443 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,960 had been given a backpack. 444 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,960 It contained Sam's clothes covered in blood, 445 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,320 his mobile phone and his wallet. 446 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:39,160 In a call Wozniak made from gaol, his fiancee asked him about it. 447 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,800 She says, hey, I'm about to tell the detectives 448 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:46,960 that Tim has evidence. 449 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,960 He says, you can't do that. You can't do that. 450 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,960 If you do, I'm done for. 451 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,960 Baby, baby, baby, no, no, no, don't do that, don't do that. 452 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:06,960 And she says, well, I'm going to. 453 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,960 I have to. 454 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,960 And by the way, this is a recorded line, 455 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,960 and you're being a complete ass if you're going to continue to lie. 456 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,320 Wozniak then informs the gaoler, I want to talk to the detectives. 457 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,960 (Richard) Wozniak then revealed 458 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,960 how he led Sam to his death. 459 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,320 Wozniak says he goes to Sam. 460 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:15,800 He asks him for help moving boxes at this theatre 461 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,960 on the Joint Forces Training Base, which is this 462 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,320 military base in Los Alamitos. 463 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,960 He says he lured Sam into the attic of a theatre 464 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,800 called The Liberty Theatre under this guise 465 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,960 of helping him move some stuff. 466 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,960 Wozniak had been in a production out there, so he knew it. 467 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,960 Wozniak rifles through Sam's pockets, grabs his cell phone, 468 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,960 grabs his debit card, and takes off. 469 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,960 (Richard) With this news, police 470 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,960 raced to The Liberty Theatre. 471 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,320 (sirens) 472 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,960 They finally found Sam Herr's body in the attic. 473 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,960 It revealed he'd met a gruesome end. 474 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,800 When the police first found the body, the head was gone. 475 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,960 The right hand was missing. 476 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,960 And the left forearm and hand were missing. 477 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,000 Now, the first thing you want to do with a body like this 478 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,960 is to work out who it belonged to. 479 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,960 It was impossible to use either fingerprints or dental records. 480 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,960 But this body could still reveal the truth. 481 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:51,640 On the chest was a distinctive tattoo of a heart and a rose. 482 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:57,960 And using that, the police were able to identify him as Sam Herr. 483 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:04,960 For Sam's father, Steve, his worst fears had come true. 484 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,960 The police called and said they identified 485 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,960 Sam's body from the tattoo. 486 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:14,960 It was a heart and a rose-big one-and it had "mum and dad." 487 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,480 I knew it was my son. 488 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,480 (Sean) Like a lot of young men who were in the Army 489 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,800 during the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, 490 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,960 he also had just a series of tattoos 491 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:30,960 that were reflective of his military deployment. 492 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:35,320 So his tattoos were unique and very easy to identify. 493 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,960 Plus, we knew that it was Sam Herr at that time 494 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,800 because we already had Wozniak's confession. 495 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:46,160 It's a shock when you find out your child is dead. 496 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:51,960 When they confirm it, the shock is complete. 497 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:56,960 However, I remember saying, OK, they found Sam's body. 498 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,960 And I remember thinking, well, at least he's not been dismembered. 499 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,320 So the next morning, the police call and say, 500 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,000 Steve, before you find out from the media, 501 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,960 we have to tell you Sam was dismembered. 502 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:18,960 That's when anger - everything - and to this day, 13 years later, 503 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,160 it's there. 504 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,960 It's there. 505 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,960 That's where I go. That's the dark place. 506 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:29,640 I don't want to go there, so I try to avoid it. 507 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,960 (Richard) Police needed to work out how and why 508 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,960 Sam's body was dismembered. 509 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,160 Was it a moment of madness or part of Wozniak's plan? 510 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,000 To remove the head and two limbs from a body, 511 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,960 you have to cut through bones. 512 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,320 And I can tell you, that takes a lot of physical effort. 513 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,960 A closer look at the edges of the bones that are being cut 514 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,960 can be very revealing and can tell us what was used to cut them. 515 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,640 An axe would leave a V-shaped trough, 516 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,960 whilst the saw leaves specific ridge patterns 517 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,320 on the cut ends of the bone matching the saw tooth 518 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,960 pattern on the edge of the blade. 519 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,960 And in this case, the tell-tale marks on Sam's bones 520 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:22,960 revealed that the killer had used a saw to decapitate him. 521 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:27,160 With this new lead, police uncovered the tools the killer 522 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,960 had used for his grisly crime. 523 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:36,800 He used a combination of a hatchet and also a wood saw. 524 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,800 Wozniak discovered that it was far more 525 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,320 difficult to dismember a human body, I think, than he thought. 526 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,960 We believe that was to make identification more difficult, 527 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,960 by removing the head and hands, which is not very well thought 528 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,960 through because this is a former member 529 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,960 of the United States military and there's DNA in a database. 530 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,960 So eventually, this body is going to be identified. 531 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,480 The blood at the scene by itself would 532 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,960 be probably run through the system and would have identified him. 533 00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:03,960 So I don't know exactly what he was thinking. 534 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,320 (Richard) But time was running out 535 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,960 to find Sam's missing body parts for the sake of his family 536 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,960 and for police to build a watertight case. 537 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,640 He had cut off the head and hands and thrown them 538 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,960 in this Long Beach nature park. 539 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,640 We have coyotes. 540 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:21,960 We have a lot of animals. 541 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,960 And they use the storm drains to access suburban areas. 542 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,960 So if a body is not discovered quickly and it is off a fire road 543 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,800 or off a hiking trail, you can guarantee that it's going 544 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:34,960 to be what's known as scavenged. 545 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,800 That's when animals find the body, and they 546 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,960 will oftentimes eat anything of forensic value from that. 547 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,960 So there was a grid search conducted 548 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,960 of this Long Beach nature park. 549 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,960 On May 29, which happened to be Sam's birthday, 550 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,960 they found his head. 551 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,960 That upset me. 552 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,320 You know, he was dismembered, and here it was on his birthday, 553 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,960 when we should have been celebrating his 27th birthday, 554 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,000 I'm praying that they find his head. 555 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,960 The police scoured El Dorado Park. 556 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,960 There was still a hand they never found. 557 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,480 There's never forgiveness for Dan Wozniak in my mind. 558 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,960 (Richard) Back at the police station, 559 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,960 Wozniak revealed how, just hours after killing Sam, 560 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,960 he murdered Julie. 561 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,960 At this point, police have this confession. 562 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,960 They have forensics that puts him at the scene, the backpack 563 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,960 with the clothes in it, the murder weapon, 564 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,960 and Wozniak is formally charged with the murder. 565 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,960 Daniel Wozniak was charged with two counts of murder 566 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,320 for financial gain, which in the state of California 567 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,960 carries a potential sentence of death. 568 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,800 In May 2010, in Orange County, California, 569 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,160 Daniel Wozniak was charged with two counts of murder 570 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:12,960 after confessing to killing Julie Kibuishi and Sam Herr. 571 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,960 Wozniak had shot and dismembered Sam Herr 572 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,960 to steal his bank card and his money, 573 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,960 then gunned down Sam's friend Julie so it 574 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,960 seemed he had fled on the run. 575 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,960 But the law had caught up with the killer. 576 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,960 The case enters the court process, 577 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:35,960 and there was a lengthy delay between the charges 578 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,960 and the actual trial. 579 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,000 There's motions. 580 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,960 There's many hearings. 581 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,480 It stretched out over months, more than 100 hearings. 582 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,960 For Sam's family, for Julie's family, 583 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,960 they're having to kind of wait through their pain, 584 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,960 through their need for some kind of closure. 585 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,480 So you can see our frustration with the judicial system. 586 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:02,960 We finally went to trial December 587 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,640 of 2015. 588 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:10,960 That was 5 1/2 years after the crime. 589 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,640 (Richard) As Wozniak entered the dock, 590 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,960 the families came face to face with the killer. 591 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,960 (Sean) You could tell he kind of had that air as an actor. 592 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:32,960 He kind of carried himself in a certain way in the courtroom, 593 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,800 for the most part. 594 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,960 Wozniak, at the very correct advice of his attorneys, remained 595 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,960 pretty stone-faced throughout. 596 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,960 I'm sure they advised him not to show much emotion. 597 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,960 And he didn't. He showed almost no emotion the entire time. 598 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,960 (Richard) Despite the evidence stacked against him, 599 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,960 Wozniak pleaded not guilty to Sam and Julie's murders. 600 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,160 Deputy District Attorney Matt Murphy 601 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,960 led the case for the prosecution. 602 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,960 We played his confession. 603 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,320 We laid out all the evidence so the jury understood what he did, 604 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,960 how he did it, and why he did it. 605 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:07,960 (Sean) Prosecution was obviously 606 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,960 coming in with a very strong case. 607 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:10,960 I mean, they had a confession. 608 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,960 They had a videotape confession. 609 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,640 It's hard to have... 610 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,960 come stronger than that, unless you get someone on video 611 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,960 actually committing the act. 612 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,960 (Richard) Prosecutors painted a picture 613 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,960 of an actor who was hard up. 614 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,960 Wozniak never really broke through 615 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,960 to move up the ladder above community Theatre 616 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,320 to become kind of a professional. 617 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,160 (Richard) His fellow actor and fiancee, 618 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,960 Rachel, was also penniless. 619 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,960 He and Rachel, I don't think they were getting paid anything. 620 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,960 And neither of them had actual employment. 621 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,960 Community Theatre is not something that's 622 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:45,960 really going to pay the bills. 623 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,480 They would act together, but they were 624 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,800 also always struggling for money. 625 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,960 The problem is they didn't pay their rent. 626 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,960 I think they owed several thousand dollars in rent, 627 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,960 and they were in the process of being evicted. 628 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,960 And despite that, they were also trying to plan this wedding. 629 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,480 They wanted to do a beach-front wedding and reception - 630 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,480 obviously, a honeymoon. 631 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,960 And they're trying to figure out ways to pay for all this. 632 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,960 And Wozniak learns 633 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:19,960 that his neighbour Sam had earned, 634 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:24,640 through his military service, more than $60,000 in combat pay. 635 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,960 And he decides he's going to find a way to get that money 636 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,960 no matter what it takes to get it. 637 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,800 And that's where the plan - 638 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,960 this horrific diabolical plan - 639 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,640 begins to come clear. 640 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,960 (Richard) Evidence from Wozniak's internet browsing 641 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,960 revealed plans to kill Sam Herr in the weeks 642 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,960 leading up to his murder. 643 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,960 You go through their search history, 644 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,960 you can see what's going on exactly in his head. 645 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,960 His mind was focused on the honeymoon 646 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,960 and being able to pay their rent. 647 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,320 And then 10 seconds later, 648 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,960 there are searches on Google, "making sure a body is not found," 649 00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:03,960 "how to hide a body," "quick ways to kill people." 650 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:08,960 He's doing searches for, you know, how to commit the murder. 651 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:18,960 So he took this antique pistol, which is a .380 that I believe 652 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,960 was actually manufactured in the 1930s, 653 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,960 I think it was used in the Spanish Civil War, 654 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,960 that his father had. 655 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,960 God only knows the last time this thing was cleaned. 656 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,640 God only knows if Daniel Wozniak has ever used it before. 657 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,960 (Richard) The court heard how Wozniak 658 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,960 lured Sam to The Liberty Theatre. 659 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,960 But could Sam Herr's body reveal more 660 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,000 evidence that Wozniak killed in cold blood 661 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,800 and not in a moment of panic? 662 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,960 We know that Sam's body was dismembered after he was killed. 663 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,960 But what was his actual cause of death? 664 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,960 The answer to that lay in his skull. 665 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,160 The wounds to his head show us that, like his friend Julie, 666 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,960 he was shot twice. 667 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,960 The fatal shot was here. 668 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,960 The bullet entered through the left-hand side of the skull 669 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,960 and continued its destructive course right across the brain. 670 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,960 The bullet ended here, on the other side of the head, 671 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,960 having caused catastrophic injuries. 672 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,960 There is no way he could have survived 673 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,960 this second lethal gunshot. 674 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:28,960 Not one, but two shots were delivered from Wozniak's gun. 675 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,960 There was no coming back from that for Sam. 676 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,000 (Matt) The way he does it is so ruthless. 677 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,960 Wozniak shoots one round into Sam's head 678 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,960 that doesn't penetrate his skull. 679 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,960 He has an opportunity still, after shooting 680 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,960 him once, to do the right thing. 681 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,960 It was a survivable wound. 682 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,960 But Wozniak shoots again and kills him. 683 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,960 And right after murdering Sam Herr, Wozniak 684 00:39:54,960 --> 00:40:00,320 went and acted in Hunger Artists' Theatre production of "Nine" 685 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:01,960 because they had a performance that night. 686 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,960 He goes out, sings, dances, does his whole routine. 687 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,960 Nails it. Gives quite a performance. 688 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,960 Then, at the end of that performance, 689 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:14,960 uses Sam's cell phone to lure Julie to Sam's apartment. 690 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,960 Dan is now texting as Sam. 691 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:24,960 "I need to see you. 692 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,960 I have bad family crap." 693 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:32,960 Dan, acting as Sam, was very explicit and to say, 694 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,960 I need you to see you alone by midnight. 695 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:41,960 And Julie, being sweet and a friend, saying, don't worry, Sam. 696 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:42,960 I'm there for you. 697 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,960 We're family. 698 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,960 Dan goes up and meets her, and then he 699 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,960 lets Julie into Sam's apartment. 700 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,960 And she went to Sam's room, and then 701 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,960 he put two bullets in her head. 702 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,960 And then he disrobed her and made it look like she was raped. 703 00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,960 (Richard) But the court heard 704 00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:05,960 how Julie's body exposed the truth that there was no sexual attack. 705 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,960 Prosecutors revealed how the blanching of Julie's skin 706 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,960 with an imprint of her jeans showed Wozniak 707 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,960 had removed Julie's clothes after her murder 708 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,960 to make Sam look like the killer. 709 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:23,320 He lured her in there, to her doom, to her death. 710 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,000 She was thinking she was helping a friend. 711 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,000 She was going to be there for him. 712 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:32,960 And then this guy just destroys everything good. 713 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,960 (Richard) Wozniak's own brother, Tim, 714 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,960 testified against him about the backpack 715 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,960 he was given containing Sam's bloodied clothes, wallet and 716 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,800 phone, and even the murder weapon. 717 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,960 It was an open-and-shut case. 718 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,960 (Juror) We, the jury, find the defendant 719 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,640 Daniel Patrick Wozniak guilty of the crime 720 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,000 of murder in the first degree. 721 00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:00,960 The jury found Wozniak guilty of murder in less than two hours. 722 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,960 (Richard) In the new year, Wozniak returned 723 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,960 to court to hear his fate. 724 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,960 The elected district attorney decided 725 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,800 to seek the death penalty in this case because it was so horrific. 726 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,800 Danny Wozniak treated him like trash. 727 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,960 He treated Julie like trash. 728 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:29,160 So the question that I ask you to answer in your verdicts, are they? 729 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,160 (Richard) Sam's father, Steve, 730 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:36,800 and mother, Raquel, were there to help the jury make up their minds. 731 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,960 I addressed Dan Wozniak. 732 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:43,000 What I did, with Raquel at my side, and eight of Sammy's combat 733 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,960 buddies standing behind me. 734 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,960 You, Dan, are a coward. 735 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,960 I told Wozniak he was looking at real men behind me. 736 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:57,960 I told his lawyer and the judge that Daniel Wozniak was a poster 737 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,960 boy for the death penalty. 738 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,800 My only regret, that this state won't 739 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,160 let me kill this coward myself. 740 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,960 The thing I will never forget for the rest of my life 741 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,960 was June Kibuishi, that's Julie's mum, 742 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,960 who came in and she testified. 743 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,960 (June Kibuishi) You took my beautiful, 744 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,960 caring, loving daughter's precious life to cover 745 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,960 up your heinous and planned crime. 746 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,800 Did I ever see you any remorse? 747 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,960 No. 748 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,960 Not even once. 749 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,960 That was a moment that I will never forget. 750 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,960 The jury has listened to the family. 751 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:41,960 They go back to deliberate, and they are back 752 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,960 in a little less than one hour. 753 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,160 (Juror) We, the jury, determine that the penalty 754 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:49,960 to be imposed upon defendant 755 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,960 Daniel Patrick Wozniak to be death. 756 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,960 It was the shortest death verdict in the history of Orange County. 757 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,480 (Richard) Wozniak's bride to be, Rachel Buffett, 758 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,960 was later sentenced to 32 months in gaol 759 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,960 for lying to police to protect the killer. 760 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:07,960 This was cold blooded. 761 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,960 It was calculated. 762 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,960 And the amount of grief that this stupid plan 763 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,960 exacted upon those families is morally wrong in every way. 764 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,960 (Sean) There's kind of a very tragic irony that, you know, 765 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,960 Sam had been in some of the most dangerous places on Earth. 766 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,960 Served heroically and valiantly for his country in the war 767 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,960 in Afghanistan without a scratch. 768 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,960 (Sean) Only to come back and be killed in Orange County, which, 769 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,960 you know, is, in most people's estimation, 770 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,320 an incredibly safe place. 771 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:42,960 Hopefully, these families can walk away 772 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,960 from this with some semblance of peace 773 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,160 and know that justice has been done. 774 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,960 So I don't want them to be forgotten. 775 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:56,800 I don't want Sam helping a friend-he paid his life for that. 776 00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:02,480 And Julie helping a friend, paid for it with her life. 777 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,960 The villain of the story is Dan Wozniak. 778 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,960 The man doesn't deserve to be alive. 779 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,960 Julie Kibuishi and Sam Herr were lured to their deaths 780 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,960 by a man they trusted, Daniel Wozniak. 781 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,960 Not only did he shoot them both in the head. 782 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,960 He also dismembered Sam's body. 783 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,960 But despite Wozniak's attempt to set Sam up as Julie's killer, 784 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,960 their bodies didn't lie. 785 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,160 The double gunshot to Julie's head was 786 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,800 evidence enough to put Wozniak in the frame 787 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,960 and help prosecutors get justice. 788 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,960 Subtitles by accessibility@itv.com 65156

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