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I seem to remember Travis came
by here for the afternoon.
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With this record in particular,
I just sort of got on with it, did it,
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and we'd send it to Trav
and go from there.
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For whatever reason, this mix was
literally the second ref mix we sent.
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But I think it took
a minute to process.
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Quite a lot of work done
in really short space of time,
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and if you'd been living with the mix
and I'd think he'd had the mix
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he'd had for a minute,
it just took a minute.
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I think again, he's probably lucky
that it's Trav who's obviously a producer>
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as well as artist, that he's going
to have access to these parts.
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This is Metro's drum,
separated that.
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It's not available
to everyone.
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You're usually going
to get a two-track.
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I'll be honest,
I was surprised.
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And if you give me drum parts,
I'm going to do stuff.
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But all you can see I've done
there is a couple of places
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I've dropped
that hat there.
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It starts to slow down
into that verse, why?
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Because Travis is about
to come in and scare us all
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with whatever
he's going to say
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and you've got an opportunity
to make that a little bit more.
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I don't know,
[inaudible].
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This is it,
back in...
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Trap hats took out.
You can see.
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And this one
to the second, the drop.
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I think, again, with
all these tracks, the balances
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and Travis had these tracks
going on for a long time.
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They've been going for a minute,
while you're waiting to collate verses
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from people and parts
and so on, but...
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So, in my head
I'm like, don't...
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You're not trying to
reinvent the wheel.
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But there was definitely room,
and I talked to Trav about it
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and that's
what he wanted.
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He wanted me just
to have a go and have fun.
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So, that's super liberating
when you're mixing.
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And we often talk about trying
to put yourself in a place
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with whatever you're doing where
you are not predetermining the outcome
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because that's
going to fuck you.
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Again, the beauty of this particular
track for me was that I only had
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an X amount of time to do it,
and therefore I'm looking at it now
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and I'm having a couple of
regrets about some little things,
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but at the same time,
that's what it was then.
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I was talking to someone the other day
about critiquing work after the event.
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What would you call that?
Hindsight.
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And you've got to remember the record
that comes out or that
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becomes available at that point,
at that time, everyone who worked on it
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agreed that that's
what it was.
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So, when you sort of pull apart
a mix or pull apart a production
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or whatever, it's not rude,
but remember that at that moment
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everyone was agreed that that was
solid gold, and that's something
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I try and sort of
respect as well.
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So, you've got all
Metro's drums at the top here,
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then you've got all
the 808 stuff going on here.
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It's got
its own bus.
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And I'm running a music aux,
which there's very little going on.
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Again, like I sort of mentioned,
I was still figuring out a way,
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my template,
let's call it.
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And I'm still working on it because
you can really quickly in the box
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just get lost in just
endless subs of auxes.
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It's just hell.
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And I can't handle that
and I'm not going to handle it,
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so I just have to try and keep it
quite straightforward.
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Although this might look a bit
chaotic down here, it's not.
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It's actually really...
it's all quite sort of simple.
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I've still got traditional auxes going on,
and I think some of these were inherited.
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These came
with the session.
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So, and then below that,
I've got what looks like a sort of
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effects tracks, if that makes
sense, sort of vocal effects.
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All this
is pre-made.
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And then I've got the majority
of all the sends, which, maybe not.
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It's pretty
traditional layout.
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So, it was really interesting to me
the idea that underneath
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all the James Blake stuff, it's much more
swimming, much more low-end driven.
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And anything that's got long-held
legato information I'm going to use,
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so that when we get to that savage
drop again, it's going to feel
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even more like a stop.
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The punctuation will be greater.
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And I've also got to try and
save some shit for later on.
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This is a fascinating track where the
artist, the principal artist,
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doesn't come in
'til three minutes in.
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You don't hear Travis until that
drop in the middle eight.
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It's really different,
the low end on that.
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Again, when you've only got
six hours to mix a song...
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I knew going into it
I only had six hours.
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It doesn't make your decisions finite,
but you're really going to be
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trusting your instincts
at that point.
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From what I remember,
I'm working in a room I've never
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worked in before, so all
the obstacles were sort of
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stacked against me,
if you like.
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A room I don't know,
speakers that I don't completely know,
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other things going on, physically,
that are destructive
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to my sort of mental
capacity to be calm.
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But I suppose that's
all the reasons why...
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that's when you better
get on with it and...
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It's really smart
to get...
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Part of production is obviously using
different mixers and different...
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And I think where it works in the collage,
you got to remember I hadn't heard
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the other 17, 16 songs on
the record or whatever by then,
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but you're going to get these
different tastes coming really.
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It's this great production by Travis
because you're just going to get
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these different
feelings.
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If all the mixers had the feel of
the reference, that's just going to be
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the flavor for the whole record,
and he didn't want that and had enough
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between him, Mike Dean
and lots of other people.
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You're just getting all this different
taste and how you choose to sort of
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jump from that is, I think,
what turns a good record
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into a really
great record.
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What I'm surprised by is just
the sheer speed that it happens at.
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But that's
part of it.
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That's what
makes I guess...
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I hope now you can keep the mix
exciting that way, I think.
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This is Savage's.
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His vocal needed
a bit of work.
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I'd say some of these plug-ins
on Savage are inherited again
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because
I don't use RVox.
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I'm trying to be as sort of
unproprietary about this as possible.
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If it sounds
okay as it is
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and they've had it working like that,
I'm not going to change it.
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There was just
so many people involved.
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By the time you've got to this stage
of this song, so many other engineers
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and producers
have been involved.
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I'm not trying to
reinvent the wheel.
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This is totally
inherited.
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I didn't do anything to Savage's vocal,
unless I did some stuff here, which I did.
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So, these tracks down here again,
my fun tracks or whatever,
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I can do all that and not interfere with
any of his preset halls or reverbs.
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We're just going to
leave all that.
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But if we solo all his vocals and then
we can add all this stuff down here.
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So, I can just do quite a simple
delay track running underneath,
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really quiet leaf, and then some chorusing
happening on a couple of lines.
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Nothing extreme.
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Like I said, in terms of sort
of the architecture of this mix,
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by the point where he drops
in that second verse,
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it's like the beginning
of the song, really.
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So, you're leading up to that point,
and that's quite an important moment.
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The whole timbre, if you like,
of the song becomes a bit darker.
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His voice
is menacing.
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I'm just trying to sort of picture
things that will make that more
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dramatic for the mixer...
for the listener, sorry.
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And the mixer.
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