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[narrator] This week on CrimeFeed,

the biggest headlines of the year.

Millionaire heir turns killer, Alex Murdaugh.

Could he get a new trial in the murders of his wife and son?

And new details in Idaho

as accused student murderer, Bryan Kohberger, heads to trial.

Plus, the Long Island serial killer

speculation swirls over how much his wife knew.

And a look back at the cases that shook us to our core.

Teens killing teens,

and famous men using their power as a weapon over women.

All this week on CrimeFeed.

With Nancy Grace,

Mara S. Campo,

and Derrick Levasseur.

How do they do it?

Doomsday moms killing their own children,

serial killers spreading fear,

death at daycare,

Tonight, the most disturbing crime investigations of the year.

Good evening, I'm Nancy Grace.

Welcome to CrimeFeed.

First, a case that just won't go away

and day by day, becomes even more twisted.

Once a multimillionaire,

heir to a legal dynasty,

South Carolina lawyer, Alex Murdaugh,

guilty in the court of law.

The brutal murders of wife, Maggie and son, Paul.

At least, for now anyway.

Then, he admits to stealing his clients' money

to the tune of millions.

All that power,

all that prestige,

all that money,

now demanding his case be thrown out

and it just might happen.

Mara, what's the latest?

Nancy, Alex's defense team

accused the court clerk

of Colleton County, Rebecca Hill,

of jury tampering in this murder trial.

In a motion, his attorneys claim

Hill had frequent private conversations

with the jury foreperson

and that she pressure the jurors to reach a quick verdict.

They've requested an evidentiary hearing.

[Derrick] That's right, it's gonna be interesting to see how this shapes out.

Rebecca's son, Jeff,

who worked as an IT director for the county

was arrested and charged with wiretapping.

We don't know what conversation he allegedly intercepted

or what that means for the case,

but he isn't due back in court

until late January.

Regardless, Murdaugh's plea deal for the financial crimes

requires that he serve at least

85% of his sentence.

So, if for any reason

he does get a retrial for those murders,

or doesn't get convicted again,

he could walk out of prison in his late 70s.

I personally just don't see that happening.

Yeah, well he was just sentenced

for those financial crimes a few weeks ago,

and at his sentencing,

his victims let him have it.

This is how one of the family's attorneys,

Eric Bland, put his actions into perspective.

This was predatory behavior.

This wasn't Enron.

It wasn't WorldCom.

This was Alex Murdaugh

stealing money from those that were closest to him.

Gloria Satterfield, who broke bread with him

and his family for 22 years

helped raise his kids,

Jordan Jinks, lifelong friend,

since they were 8 years old,

grew up play ball together.

This is close theft.

You know, it's amazing to me

that this guy

stands up again. Again.

And I saw him on the stand,

I watched every word of his testimony.

Lying through his teeth

whenever it would suit him,

break down and start crying, whining.

On and on, he just did the same thing.

This guy doesn't care about any of those victims

and I will do a backflip if he gets a new trial.

Well, you have to remember,

a lot of his cases

were personal injury cases.

So, he was taking them on

when people were at their most vulnerable.

And one of the victims here that he was just sentenced for

is a woman who hired him twice.

Once when her son was paralyzed

after a terrible accident and then again,

after her son died.

These are the kinds of people that he was stealing from.

And the 22 counts that he's been sentenced on,

those were just the cases that prosecutors picked.

They could've chosen from hundreds of cases.

You know, the guy that was paralyzed,

I learn this in court.

In one of his ads,

you know, a TV ad for his law firm or

some ad he had, he actually used

video or shots of the paralyzed victim.

And then, ended up stealing from him, I mean,

how much lower can you go

than to prey on your own victim.

Your own client whose paralyzed

well, I guess you know the answer to that.

Shooting your wife and son dead.

Yeah and the state has already responded to this.

Basically saying, listen

either dismiss what Murdaugh's attorneys are asking.

Or let's hold an evidentiary hearing

and we'll prove that it wasn't credible.

In fact, they go on to state that

the statements that they have from this one juror who they're questioning

was removed for dishonesty of concealing

her own improper communications about the case,

and two hearsay affidavits from

Murdaugh's own paralegal.

Hey guys, I gotta tell you something.

Uh, sat through the trial,

and I, you know struck up

a friendship with Becky Hill, the court clerk.

She was so polite, so, um, how do you say,

official, businesslike.

i just find it really hard to believe

that she tried to tamper with the jury.

Now, she made some offhand comment like,

"Hey guys, it's gonna be a quick verdict, right? Wink, wink."

I just don't think that that would

you know, impinge on their duties as jurors.

[Mara] I have a question for you, Nancy,

because one of the things she's accused of

is saying to the jury,

"Make sure you watch Murdaugh's body language when he testifies."

But is that in it of itself prejudicial?

I mean, 80% of our communication is nonverbal, right?

So, saying to someone watch their body language,

they could show that they're being earnest.

Well, that's all they said even though, she shouldn't be saying

And even though it may not change the case, she shouldn't be saying it.

Derrick, I use to tell lawyers

when I would work with them,

if you see a juror, you can say one thing,

yes, no, and there's the bathroom.

That's it. Don't say anything else to a juror.

That's not her place to be instructing on

what to observe, what not to observe and what to...

I just...

I just don't believe she did it but hey,

we'll find out.

And Murdaugh is just the tip of the 2023 iceberg in this business

very often truth is stranger than fiction.

The bizarre plot, the schemes,

the cold-blooded crimes,

they never end.

And 2023 proves it.

Of course, we've gotta mention Kouri Richins.

The all American family,

picture perfect young couple raising three beautiful boys.

But behind that facade, secrets, deception,

a deadly love of money

ending with daddy dead,

and mommy accused of cold-blooded murder

by poison. Mara.

In March of 2022,

33 year old, Kouri Richins reports

finding her husband, 39 year old, Eric Richins

dead in her bedroom.

It was later determined that he died from a lethal dose of fentanyl.

Kouri Richins, then wrote a children's book

to help their boys cope with the loss of their father.

But a year after Eric's death,

Kouri is arrested for his murder.

Let's listen to her promoting the book

just one month before her arrest.

So, my husband passed away unexpectedly last year.

So, it's March 4th

was one year anniversary for us.

And um, he was 39. It completely

took us all by shock, um

and we have three little boys, 10, nine and six.

And um, you know, we kind of,

my kids and I kind of wrote this book

on the different emotions and

grieving processes that we've experienced last year.

And, hoping that it can kind of help other kids,

you know, deal with this and kind of

you know, find happiness some way or another.

Yeah and Nancy, police say Kouri spiked her husband's Moscow Mule

with fentanyl on the night he died.

And investigation revealed, she purchased

four life insurance policies for Eric.

-Totaling two million dollars, -[Nancy whistles]

and took out a quarter of a million loan

using Eric's name without his knowledge.

I love something you just said, Mara.

Of course, I love everything you say, Derrick.

Like Mara, you said,

Wait, no, no, she said, he died unexpectedly.

Yeah, he didn't expect it.

But I think she kind of expected it according to police.

It wasn't her first time trying.

One of the most compelling parts of this story

is that prosecutors say that her motive was money.

She thought she was going to inherit money from Eric

if he died, but she wouldn't get anything in the divorce

because of their prenup.

But, unbeknownst to her,

he had changed his will

so that she was no longer the beneficiary.

He put everything in a trust

because he did not trust her.

She did not learn that until after he died.

Then, she found out that her whole plan was for nothing.

You know what caps it off for me, Derrick?

That right after he dies,

he did not want her to buy this

multimillion dollar mansion and flip it

as a realtor.

She did it anyway.

And within a couple of days,

after his memorial service,

she had a big party.

Boozing it up with all of her realtor friends,

celebrating flipping that house.

And I gotta tell you, you know,

after my fiance was murdered,

I couldn't even think straight

much less throw a party with my friends.

That did it for me.

I don't care what any defense attorney says.

You don't throw a party right after your husband dies.

No, can't disagree.

And the father of their three children, you should know.

You see your children suffering.

Suffering.

And even, all those

beautiful wide open spaces have plenty of crime.

Seven bodies turn up in Oklahoma.

A case a man behind bars for rape,

and you know it, he's released early.

Then commits mass murder.

I hate this guy. Why Mara?

[Mara] Yeah, this is a terrible story.

In May of 2023,

police searching for two missing teen girls

in rural Oklahoma

find seven bodies

on the property of convicted sex offender, Jesse McFadden,

including his own body.

The 39 year old was sent to prison

on a rape conviction back in 2003,

but he was given an early release

for good behavior.

But on May 1st, McFadden shot his wife, her three children,

and two teen girls who were friends

visiting the family, killing all of them.

He then turned the gun on himself,

and he was due in court that very same day

the bodies were found

for new child pornography charges.

Hmm. And you know, I found out that

two of the victims that were found dead

two of the teen girls, had been sexually molested as well.

Now here's another case

I cannot get out of my head.

Taylor Schabusiness.

It was a trial,

a mom spots a bucket in her basement

only to make a gruesome discovery.

Her adult son's head.

Evidence leads to the son, Shad Tyrion's

sadistic girlfriend, Taylor Schabusiness.

Derrick, I mean, you got me at

a severed head and a bucket but go ahead, what happened?

Yeah Nancy, this is victim 25 year old, Shad Tyrion,

and after his mother found his severed head, she tells police

he was last seen with his girlfriend

25 year old, Taylor Schabusiness.

Now, when detectives pull up to Taylor's house,

they followed bloody footprints up to the door,

which Taylor answers,

and she's quite literally covered in blood.

Listen to what she said during the police investigation.

And Nancy, police also found Shad's body parts

in Taylor's car in a box.

In the September of 2023, Taylor was given

a life sentence for strangling Shad

and dismembering his body.

[Mara] She got a life sentence

but the jury rejected

her mental insanity plea.

And I have to tell you, I'm shocked

that they rejected that because

not just of what we heard in this tape

but here's some of the other things that she said to the police.

And this is graphic, she says

of the murder,

she cuddled the corpse after she removed his head.

Later, she attacked her defense attorney in court

and had to be tackled in court.

She threw a chair

at the psychologist who was responsible

for evaluating her mental fitness.

And she was forced to wear a spit hood at her sentencing

so that she would not spit on anyone.

I think the jury probably didn't want her

to get off easy by going to a mental institution

as opposed to prison.

I don't see how anybody can think this woman...

[Nancy] What about meth? Methamphetamine.

Nancy, if meth did that to you we would see this all the time.

A lot of people in this country use meth and don't do that.

[Nancy] Voluntary use of drugs or alcohol is not

a defense and I promise you, Mara.

Not that I want this to happen

but if your head

does turn up in a bucket,

I will not let the perp get off

on a methamphetamine defense.

I was crazy

so, I didn't know what I was doing.

I will make sure that there's life sentence or death penalty.

Because claiming that she was high on meth

does not insanity make.

I don't think that Taylor Schabusiness was insane

because she was high on meth.

I think she's insane because she is insane.

And that is part of what the psychologist found.

They said that this woman is psychotic.

She thought she had an affair with Jeffrey Dahmer

a year before the murder.

As we know, Jeffrey Dahmer's been dead for quite some time.

This woman belongs in a hospital.

Would you want another inmate

to be in same cell with this woman?

Whose crime is that bad that that should be their punishment.

Well, I have to agree with that however,

I don't want any loophole

where she can get out

and attack another innocent person,

and more.

We may never know

how many women

suspected Long Island serial killer, Rex Heuermann

may have murdered

But more eye witnesses continue to come forward.

And oh, how the mighty fall

and they thought they'd get away with it.

Wealthy, famous men

square off with lady justice over shocking assault charges.

Next, a serial killer stalks defenseless women

for decades.

Has it finally come to an end?

Rex Heuermann, Long Island serial killer

suspected three of the Gilgo Beach murders.

Investigators working overtime

to tie Heuermann to eight more murders

that we know of, although,

many legal eagles, including myself

are convinced there may be many, many more.

Mara, what's the latest?

Well, Nancy, we're still pouring over

the new eye witness testimony in this case.

Since Heuermann's arrest,

new witnesses have stepped forward tying him

to two more murdered women.

Shannan Gilbert and Karen Vergata.

Meanwhile, there's been a lot of speculations over how much

Heuermann's wife, Asa Ellerup, about these murders.

Now, she hasn't been charged with anything

and after his arrest, she filed for divorce.

But a lot of new details have been coming out.

Heuermann recently signed over

ownership of their house to Ellerup.

And she's now visited him both in jail,

and more recently, at his latest court hearing.

There's a lot going on with Asa Ellerup

because she is also now signed a deal

with a production company.

I couldn't wait for you to say that, I was holding back.

-[Mara] One million dollar -Million dollar.

deal to do a documentary

to participate in a documentary,

she was recently spotted at a court hearing

with a camera crew in tow.

She pulled up in a silver Mercedes.

[Mara] And looking a lot more put together.

You know, when we saw her initially,

she was incredibly disheveled, distraught.

You know, the law enforcement tore their house up.

She said they were sleeping and grilling outside

because they couldn't even live in their home.

When we've seen her recently,

she's looked a lot more polished and pulled together.

And listen, optically, it doesn't look good.

I think we can all agree on that.

But what I'm more concerned about

is the fact that recently, we just had a new development

where the cheek swabs taken from her

do match the DNA on one of the victims.

My question, and maybe you have the answer, Nancy is,

is this the same DNA, the hair fiber that was found on the initial victim?

Or is this a new location at a different victim?

Because if that's the case,

it's a real problem.

[Nancy] They haven't made it clear

what DNA they're talking about.

I know one of her hairs was found

on one of the victims.

But if there's more

of her DNA on these victims,

she's got a problem.

And another thing,

we keep talking about how bad it looked

that they didn't have a place to live.

And yeah, I agree.

But that's not the police's fault.

That's his fault for stalking, torturing,

humiliating, degrading, and murdering women.

Obviously, bringing them to the house

when his wife was at their, we think.

That's his fault, it's not the police's fault.

If they didn't tear the house apart

then, everybody would be mad

the police didn't do their job.

I mean, is that right? Can I get a amen on this?

[Mara] Yeah, if the home appears to have been a crime scene,

police certainly believed that there was activity

tied to the murder that took place there, so,

they gotta do what they gotta do

to solve these murders.

They owe it to the victims, they owe it to the victims' families.

In terms of Asa Ellerup, the wife,

I have to wonder if this documentary deal

doesn't potentially open up some legal problems for her.

Ooh, you are so right.

No marital privilege.

Everything that she says on camera

is gonna be recorded and could potentially be used against her

in court and as you know,

she's throwing away her spousal privilege.

Let's not forget, we talked about this in a previous episode

the Karen Vergata affidavit,

where allegedly,

Karen Vergata was brought to the Heuermann's home.

The witnesses left Karen Vergata behind...

[Nancy] Say the rest.

For swinging, swinging. They were changing partners, Derrick.

[Derrick] The witnesses leave,

Karen Vergata allegedly

with Asa and Rex Heuermann

and allegedly they saw

Karen Vergata running for the garage while they're inside.

-That to me... -[Nancy] Naked.

Can I just tell you?

Number one rule

I lay down when I got married to my husband.

Open marriage, open casket.

Now, if you can't agree to that,

we're not getting married.

If she knew about all of this,

and stood by and did nothing,

of course, guilty knowledge is not a criminal make.

There's gotta be more than just knowledge.

But if she covered, if she cleaned up,

if she arranged any of it, she got a problem y'all.

Guys, 2023 was no exception to crime.

Once again, the rich, the powerful, the arrogant,

famous men who seemingly have it all

allegedly committing heinous acts of violence.

Why?

And another name to add to the list, and may claim

his bad boy image was not just an image.

It's real, and he got away with it for years.

Bombshell trials including

a loving mom who plots to kill her own children

and her lover's ex-wife in an elaborate plan

because she claimed they were zombies.

Why do headlines always say

famous men behaving badly?

That's certainly putting perfume on the pig.

Can I just start with R. Kelly?

Welcome back to CrimeFeed, I'm gonna thank you for being with us.

Money, power, fame.

Instead of making these guys happy,

they use it all to prey on their victims.

But in 2023, a big year for boy back.

First up, R. Kelly.

February, R&B superstar, Robert Sylvester Kelly,

already behind bars,

from running a sex trafficking ring for his own fetishes,

get 20 years for a string of child sex crimes.

But then, multiple videos have emerged

reportedly of the music icon

sex abusing his 14 year old little goddaughter.

You know, I hate to even look at him.

Don't even look at me even in the camera, R. Kelly.

You make me sick.

All that money, all that power,

all that privilege, he had it all.

But he couldn't be happy.

And these allegations have followed him for decades,

and this case, actually a lot of people would remember.

This is the same victim from the 2008 case

where he was acquitted.

Same videos, difference is

in 2008, she didn't wanna testify

and she denied she was the one on the video.

So, they couldn't prove who the identity of the girl,

they couldn't prove her age.

This time, grown woman, much stronger,

she agreed to testify, that was the key.

Her strength and her testimony put him behind bars.

You know, I'm glad you pointed that out, Mara, because

I've dealt with a lot of child rape victims,

molestation victims.

And if they don't have somebody standing up for them,

they can't do it on their own.

I mean, look what she lived through all these years.

And finally, she has the strength

to come forward and go, "Yeah, that was me."

[both] Hmm.

Celebrity men seemingly get away with all sorts of crimes.

But not this time.

Danny Masterson,

a star of That '70s show,

hid behind a seemingly loving marriage,

and his church.

Now convicted of not one, but two rapes

in the case that put his church, Scientology,

in the spotlight, Mara.

That's right, Nancy. Masterson and his victims were members of the church.

But as a celebrity, he enjoyed special status.

The women testified that they reported their assaults

to church leadership,

but they were pressured not to go to the police.

Instead, they say they were subjected to "Ethics training"

and even, reportedly stalked.

Yeah and we see this a lot, not only in Scientology,

but we've also seen it in the Catholic church where there's

obviously the stigma around it, they try to keep it in house

because they know how it could affect the religion.

Obviously, it's not the right move.

But it does happen more often than I care to hear about it.

What we've seen recently with a lot of these old cases being refiled

because of things like, the New York Survivors Act,

where they've lifted some of the statutes limitations.

Often, it takes awhile for people to feel empowered

to face powerful institutions.

-[Derrick] You have to escape the church first. -Yes.

Okay, and the whole thing about hiding behind the marriage,

and the church of Scientology.

Didn't it come out after the trial?

They haven't been a married couple living together for years.

That whole thing was faked

to try to present a facade of a happy marriage.

To help him at trial. It was all BS.

Technical legal term. I mean,

you know what people go to,

the lengths they go to, to trick a jury.

Well, no list of A-list stars accused of

committing evil acts is complete without this guy.

Movie star, comedian, host.

Former husband of music sensation,

Katy Perry. I love her.

Well, I'm talking about Russell Brand.

At least five women come forward

accusing Brand of rape.

And sex and emotional abuse.

Take a listen to our friends at Channel 4 London

and one of Brand's accusers. Listen.

I was set up in a bed against the headboard,

and, he, um...

Forced his [bleep] down my throat.

And I couldn't breathe, he was just choking me.

I couldn't breathe.

I was pushing him away and pushing him away and,

he wasn't backing off at all.

And I was crying

and he said, "Aww, I only want to see your mascara run anyway."

I mean, really. All that power,

all that wealth, the huge reach

he has as a comedian,

a beloved comedian, I might add.

I mean, it just goes to show

the duplicity in the human soul.

Yeah, well, Nancy, Brand's bad boy behavior over the years

actually helped catapult him to fame.

But there have been

many of these sinister open secrets on sets apparently

and in studios from London to Los Angeles

that are finally catching up to him.

But that's not how he's framing it.

As I've written about extensively in my book,

I was very promiscuous.

The relationships that I had were always consensual.

And to see that transparency

metastasized into something criminal

that I absolutely deny

makes me question,

is there another agenda at play?

Yeah, now one woman is suing Russell Brand

for emotional distress for allegedly exposing himself

to her on a movie set in 2010.

This is something this guy has joked about on air before.

So, it appears his antics and his style of comedy

have not aged well.

They live a life of power, wealth, adoration,

but then, these guys blow it all committing serious crimes?

What about all the allegations coming out

just before the New York Adult Survivors Act

is set to expire?

Lawsuits fired at Sean "Diddy" Combs,

actor, Jamie Foxx,

Guns N' Roses singer, Axl Rose,

New York City mayor, Eric Adams,

new claims against former New York governor, Andrew Cuomo,

and so many others.

All alleging sex assault.

Right Nancy, and all of those men are denying any wrongdoing.

In fact, P. Diddy has since settled one of the cases against him

and no charges have been filed against

any of the other men but we'll have to see how that plays out over time.

You know, this one, I'll never get over.

Imagine a mom accused of

killing not only two of her own children,

but also plotting to kill her brand new husband's ex-wife.

And a teen girl intentionally crashes her car

to a wall, to kill her boyfriend and his friend.

The most shocking trials of 2023 next.

And later,

How much did accused killer, Bryan Kohberger know

about the University of Idaho victims?

Trials that grip the nation.

First, cult mom Lori Vallow

murders two of her own children

and that's not all, accused of plotting to kill her new husband's ex-wife

in her sleep.

The trial, bizarre.

Cult mom claiming she was chosen by heaven

that she's a goddess, actually,

to usher in the apocalypse.

But how does murdering her own children

and the ex-wife of husband number four

have anything to do with a gateway to heaven, Mara?

[Mara] Well, in September of 2019,

Lori's two children,

7 year old, JJ Vallow, and 16 year old, Tylee Ryan

went missing in Rexburg, Idaho.

Lori never even reported her children missing,

and instead, she went on a vacation

with her new husband, Chad Daybell.

Nine months later, investigators found

the children's remains in Chad's backyard.

[Derrick] Yeah, and as an investigator, this case

really bothers me especially

when you listen to what Lori had to say at court.

Take a listen to this.

Jesus Christ knows

that no one was murdered in this case.

Accidental deaths happen,

suicides happen,

fatal side effects from medications happen.

The first time JJ visited me

after he passed away,

he put his arm around me

and he said to me,

"You didn't do anything wrong, Mom.

I love you.

And I know you loved me

every minute of my life."

Unbelievable. Now, Lori was sentenced to life in prison

in July and her husband, Chad Daybell's trial

is set to begin in April of 2024 on the same charges.

You know, what's amazing

is that somehow, she dragged Christ into her defense

and then claims the little boy

that she murdered,

or she had her brother

and Daybell, the new husband, murder.

That he forgave her. In other words,

my son that's dead forgave me.

My little seven year old boy.

So, judge, you should go easy on me too.

That took a lot of nerve.

Well, she reportedly was obsessed

with this idea of the apocalypse

and she believed that her children were zombies.

And they were possessed and part of the reason she believed that

is because Chad Daybell told her that.

Early in their relationship, she had consulted him

about the quality of her children's spirits

and he basically said, they're dark spirits

and there's no saving them.

They've gone so far to the other side,

they can never come back from that.

So, prosecutors believed that that was the motivation

that she had these misguided spiritual beliefs that she...

-You know what, Mara. Let me ask you a question. -Yes.

Do you think it was something to do with the zombie apocalypse

that made her go on Amazon

before Tammy Daybell

"died in her sleep?"

That's Charles Daybell, the prophet,

her new husband, wife,

and order her

Lori Vallow's wedding dress

and ring

on her dead husband's Amazon account

before Tammy died?

She must have been clairvoyant, right?

[Mara] Well, what you're speaking to

is a very interesting timeline of two other deaths

connected to this couple which is,

both of their exes.

So, I just wanted to read the timeline

-because it's really fascinating. -I love the timeline.

July of 2019,

Lori's estranged husband, her fourth husband, by the way,

is shot and killed by her own brother.

September, the kids go missing.

Although, she does not report them missing.

So, the world doesn't know they're missing for quite some time.

October, Tammy Daybell, Chad's wife,

dies of natural causes,

although, later, it's found that she died of asphyxiation.

In November, six days after Tammy's death,

Chad and Lori are married.

Yeah, this story, I researched it a lot.

And there's no doubt to me after looking into it

that Lori was the puppeteer

and Chad was the puppet.

She always justified and manipulated things by saying, listen

these are no longer our children,

these are dark spirits, they have to be removed.

That was her justification.

She's a sick individual and I hope

Chad ends up in the same place as her.

You know, with all the dead bodies

they still didn't get he death penalty and of course,

we can't go without mentioning, Mackenzie Shirilla.

The Ohio teen crashes her car into a brick wall

to kill her boyfriend and a friend,

all because of a toxic teen relationship.

Mara, big question, did she do it on purpose?

Yeah, that is the big question.

In July 2022, 17 year old Mackenzie Shirilla,

plowed her Camry into a brick wall

at 100 mph.

Killing her boyfriend, 20 year old, Dominic Russo,

and his friend, 19 year old, Davion Flanagan.

At trial, it was revealed that

she had threatened to do this before.

And surveillance video was shown

that captured footage of the deadly crash and watch this.

Just devastating to see the moment

that these two young lives were lost.

You can see Mackenzie

shows no sign of slowing down.

No attempt to brake as she heads straight for that brick wall.

She was hospitalized, she survived and made a full recovery.

But the two young men were killed.

At the trial, an emotional Mackenzie appears

to deny that she crashed the car on purpose. Let's take a look.

Oh, Dom and Davion,

I'm so deeply sorry,

I hope one day you can see I would never let this happen

or do it on purpose.

I wish I could remember what happened,

I'm just so sorry, I'm heartbroken.

I love Dom and Davion,

we were all friends and Dom was my soulmate.

I wish I could take all your pain away.

I'm so sorry.

But her tearful statement was not enough to convince the judge.

In August, she was handed down two 15 years to life sentences.

[Derrick] And as a police officer, I've unfortunately responded

to multiple accidents like this,

where you have death and what's interesting about this--

[Nancy] Not an accident, it's a crash.

Yeah, I agree and add to your point,

you can go back and confirm this stuff.

There's computers on board on the vehicle,

you can also look at the physical characteristics.

Are there skid marks?

Is there any sign of braking before impact?

The fact that there's none of that,

I do agree. It looks like it may have been deliberate.

The other thing is, when you're

speeding toward a wall.

You have the opportunity to stop.

You have the opportunity to hit the brakes.

And the law,

says that intention can be implied.

She doesn't have to say,

I'm gonna kill you by crashing this car.

She can commit acts that show

it is intentional.

And that's what I would argue to a jury.

That this was in fact intentional.

[Derrick] Actions prove intent.

Yes, you don't have to spell it out in handwriting

for a jury to get it.

And of course, there's a case that

has driven fear into the hearts of parents

across this country.

Up next, the latest in the murders of

four beautiful University of Idaho students.

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One of the most high profile murder cases of the last year,

the murders of the four University of Idaho students

slaughtered in their own beds.

It's been just over a year

since Bryan Kohberger allegedly fatally stabbed

four undergrads in their off-campus apartment. Mara.

Well Nancy, as you know,

police arrested Bryan Kohberger about six weeks after the murders.

State identified his car from surveillance footage

around the time of the murders.

And later, they matched his DNA

to a sample on a knife sheath

left behind at the crime scene.

The latest on this case is that the house where the murders took place

was slated for demolition,

but since Kohberger has waived his right

to a speedy trial,

they've left that house standing

so that prosecutors and the FBI can continue

gathering evidence from the house.

A judge entered a plea of not guilty

on Kohberger's behalf.

While prosecutors have said,

they do intend to pursue the death penalty.

If this isn't a death penalty case, I don't know what is.

Well, you're right and right now, I believe

what's happening on the defense side,

I think they, Kohberger's defense

is going to argue that he often went out alone

for night drives when he couldn't sleep.

Okay, that's one thing they'll have to explain away.

And that sounds, a little believable.

But then, you've got his DNA on a knife sheath

found under one of the bed owned by one of the dead bodies.

He could also claim with that

that he had been to a knife and gun show.

There's many things he could use to explain that.

But when one thing mounts,

and the next mounts, and the next mounts.

Then, it's a mountain of evidence you cannot overcome.

Yeah, and we're looking at means, motives, and opportunity.

I think we already have a lot of evidence that's come about.

The means and the opportunity but when you look at motive,

there are now rumblings, I think.

I don't know if they've said who exactly but...

That Kohberger was DM-ing via Instagram

one of the victims whether that was Maddie

or Kaylee, nobody's confirm that yet.

But it could speak to

what actually transpired that night

because we do know what appears

that Kohberger went to the top floor, initially.

Why is that? Is that because he knew

Maddie or Kaylee were up there first,

and that's why he wanted to go up there? Because

from what I understand, he entered the house at approximately,

correct me if I'm wrong, 4.09 a.m,

-and was out by 4.18 a.m. That's nine minutes. - [Nancy] Hmm.

So, it seems like he went in there with a deliberate purpose

and maybe got derailed on the way out.

That's why you had two other murders that occurred after that.

I don't think it went according to plan but I do think,

what happened initially could be an indication of a potential motive.

[Nancy] You know, it's interesting.

When you go to the crime scene,

the house is right here, you drive around

and you can park right behind it, and it puts you

up at the top level.

And you can see, straight in there

as clearly as I'm seeing you.

I could look straight in that house.

See, right there. That's a great shot, Charles and John.

So, you go around and that is the back.

You can look right into their rooms, so,

he didn't have to know them beforehand.

Or know which room was whose.

All he had to do was look in the windows because in the dark,

where I was standing, you could look straight in

into windows that were very easily...

You could see everything lit up especially.

But, there is evidence that he was stalking

-one or more of these victims. -[Derrick] Of course.

You know, he had been in the area

allegedly 12 times

between June and November when the murders took place.

June is pretty much when he moved to that area.

So, it seems that it started almost immediately.

He was reported seen at the student union so often

that some students thought he actually attended that school.

He did not.

He reportedly went to the restaurant

where two of the victims worked

at least once, and then there are these reports

that he was reaching to them on social media.

So, there is evidence to support

that he was stalking at least one of them.

What about the knife, Mara? Derrick, what about this?

Amazon has him ordering

-a knife like that and a sheath like that -[Derrick] Yup.

months before the murders.

So, if he ordered that knife which

we know that he did, we know where it was delivered, the whole thing.

-Where is the knife? -[Derrick] Yeah, I think--

[Nancy] What happened to that knife he ordered if it was not the murder weapon?

Why can't he produce it?

Yeah, obviously it was dumped.

Right, I think it's an overwhelming amount of evidence.

But I wanna change gears for one second

because I've been seeing things on social media

about the surviving witness, Dylan.

-And it really infuriates me because I'm seeing these... -Victims.

and these "investigators"

now saying because they're seeing Dylan on TikTok

or something, dancing or smiling

that somehow this shows she's somehow involved.

Listen, like I said earlier. This happened nine minutes.

More than likely, Bryan didn't expect

allegedly, if it was Bryan,

came out of that house not knowing what was gonna happen

and was out of there in a rush,

and didn't even see Dylan.

She may be the key to this case,

let's not incriminate her without evidence.

I think everyone on social media needs to relax.

She's obviously been through a very traumatic thing.

Let's not pile on top of a young woman

who will never be the same and is a victim as well.

You know what happened, my fiance was murdered

shortly before our wedding.

Well, over 20 years have passed

and it devastated me.

I dropped out of school. It was terrible.

20 years have passed,

I was with my now husband,

and my friend, a friend girl in Atlanta, a defense lawyer,

and we were having dinner.

A guy came up to me, 20 years late and goes,

"You Nancy Grace?"

I'm like, "yeah." He goes,

"Why are you sitting here smiling and laughing,

when your fiance was murdered?" I'm like...

That felt like somebody poured cold water on me.

It was awful.

I can't imagine how she's feeling.

It's awful. I'm getting chills just remembering that.

It's terrible, I see it. It drives me nuts.

And it's worth remembering that she is a victim as well.

She was not a murder victim, but she certainly was traumatized.

She provided the information to the police,

that was very useful in tying Kohberger to this crime.

Because she provided a description of height, weight, build,

and the like, and the eyes, she kept saying, bushy eye brows,

and he matched up with that description.

And she did have to leave school.

She's not staying there anymore. So,

she's trying to move on with her life and heal.

[Nancy] You know what somebody asked me the other day?

They came up to me, I think it was in an airport and went,

"Hey, do you think that female roommate

had anything to do?" I'm like,

-[Derrick] Seems-- -No, I don't. Where are they getting this?

I mean, but if one juror

has that tucked away up here,

-the state's in trouble. -[Mara] Yeah.

Well, in terms of the evidence we're talking about the case,

one of the things I find really interesting s the cell phone evidence.

A lot of people have come to realize that cell phones

are basically a tracking devices.

And so, if you're gonna commit a crime,

it could be a problem for you cause it creates a lot of evidence.

Well, also the absence of using you phone

can create evidence. So, in Kohberger's case,

he turned his phone off immediately before

the murders took place, 4:00 o'clock in the morning.

And turns the phone back on

immediately after the murders took place.

That in it of itself provided some evidence

because it wasn't consistent with his pattern of phone usage.

It's not that he turned his phone on and off often.

So, the fact that it was off only during the time of the murders

also paired with GPS data from the car is convincing.

That's the key right there.

These criminals think that, "Listen, if I turn off my phone

during the incident, I'm covered."

But they would have to plan this months,

if not years in advance,

knowing they were gonna do this,

and create that pattern of behavior

that would be indicative of them turning off the phone

numerous times over the previous months,

over the previous years.

Doing it just on that occasion

is not gonna save you.

I've told many jury, nothing good happens after midnight.

What is he up at 4:00 a.m.

turning his phone on

airplane mode or turning it off.

And guys, I went there at night.

And I drove that long circuitous route.

It was about an hour

to get from the scene of the murders

around to his apartment

when he could have just driven 10 minutes and gotten there.

And it was dark, there was no streetlights,

I nearly ran off the road.

And that's what he did at 4:00 am?

Good luck selling that to a jury.

And as far as evidence, do we all agree

the house not being torn down right now,

as much of an eyesore as it may be,

I think it should stay up until after trial.

What if the jury wants to go there?

You know, I don't see the benefit of knocking it down.

[Nancy] Believe me, they will. They will wanna go there.

2023.

What a year in the court rooms across our country.

And 2024, we hope and pray for justice.

Every week, CrimeFeed brings you crime stories

from across our great nation.

Some ripped from the headline,

some we may never heard of.

From Mara, Derrick, and myself, we'll see you next week.

Happy and blessed holidays from us to you.

Good night.

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